assassination

[grim jay]

stuff will eventually get changed

we play it anyways

[burnt latch]

i for one am excited at the opportunity to play progress as a different class, a nice change 🙂

[grim jay]

I'm pretty excited for the raid loot upgrading thingy

makes extending less annoying

and less likely to get beat up over bad rng

[burnt latch]

we didnt extend once this tier so didnt even think about that but yeah thats a good thing

makes getting a good trinket from heroic feel way better

in the long run

[uncut echo]

[true basalt]

What if Crimson Tempest or a talent which upgrades it, extended the duration of DoT's by 1 second just like spriests' mind sear/mind flay

or fan of knives idk

[subtle tundra]

then you'd only spam envenom

which would make the spec even worse

first step to fixing assa is removing ic

[royal lantern]

https://tenor.com/view/huh-cat-gif-26460616

[dark token]

vanish tping me and killing me is unfun

sectech missing is unfun

no smart rupture is annoying

[royal lantern]

Its a bandaid thats supposed to fix current assa aoe problems, but doesnt alow much future desing

[burnt latch]

thats not a thing i think youre making it up

i raid heroic every week and never heard this

[dark token]

yes it is

not in raid really

[grim jay]

its max long-arms range on sub

[dark token]

m+

when you vanish at max long arms range, the shadowstrike tps you

it shouldnt

lots of m+ mechanics require standing at max range

it kills me like 1x a week

happens a lot more but not in dangerous spots

[burnt latch]

hmm not happen to me tbh but only do like 20-21 key for weekly chest so

dont need to mby vanish there

[grim jay]

happened to me once bcs I dont max range often

[olive urchin]

[spice spire]

@burnt latch I need you to precloak runic brand so I can definitively have an answer

Since ur the only rogue I know that logs all of their m+ runs

[spice surge]

Its probably the 1s "super cloak" spaghetti code acting up. You likely need to cloak right before the thing comes out so it blocks it

https://www.youtube.com/watch?t=2086&v=RQGlmUQUv6Q&feature=youtu.be Here you can see sjele do it

[spice spire]

Then it’s definitely a bug compared to intended design.
Again, only log I found that did it was also 3 months ago - so it also could also be fixed

So I need warcieft to replicate

Help me warcieft, you’re my only hope

[spice surge]

I mean ye its probably a bug, but thats how it is

[junior rampart]

Hello, I have a question. Is it possible to retrieve alchemical flavor pot by re-crafting the gear with another reagent (Ex: fang or blue silken lining) or it gets destroyed?

[burnt latch]

im afraid i havent been doing keys for over a month

and I dont think i've ever tried that

since u need cloak to live the triple spears on a high enough key

[serene fossil]

Gone 99% sure

[burnt latch]

so i dont think i'd ever use cloak for pre runic brand

[junior rampart]

thank you 🙂

[royal lantern]

based

[spice spire]

it was never a warcieft angle, I'm afraid 😦

[ebon notch]

ive seen you can avoid the first tick with cloak

but its definitely a weird interaction

[silk bane]

is cabbage an herb?

[spice spire]

Yes

[silk bane]

youre so wise quake. ty for your wisdom ❤️

turns out youre truly wise!

[brazen zodiac]

are tomatos a fruit

[ebon notch]

ye

[brazen zodiac]

hm

interesting

thanks fotm player

[burnt latch]

I dont like my forced rebrand

[silk bane]

you were always a vegetable u just didnt know it

[viscid spear]

Knowledge is knowing tomatoes are a fruit
Wisdom is knowing to not put tomatoes in a fruit salad
Big brain moment is knowing that ketchup is a smoothie.

[deft flicker]

puts ketchup in fruit salad

[royal lantern]

hmmmmmmm

fruit sauce in fruit salad

[viscid spear]

Pizza is technically a fruit pie

[deft flicker]

Is that an argument for pineapple??

[brazen zodiac]

but but

i like putting tomatoes in my fruid salad

https://tenor.com/view/fruit-salad-yummy-yummy-the-wiggles-were-all-fruit-salad-song-yummy-fruit-salad-tasty-mixed-fruit-gif-20156551

[viscid spear]

Watermelon is a type of berry.
Blueberries are not.

[silk bane]

when i was in kindergarten there was a dude who would brin tomatoes in as a snack

dude would just sit there and bite into them like an apple

absoloute madness i tell ya

[brazen zodiac]

no shot watermelon is a type of berry

actually i wouldnt know im pretty dumb. but sure that works i guess

[viscid spear]

[brazen zodiac]

hm. i learned something today.

[viscid spear]

My knowledge of pointless stuff is always a treat

[brazen zodiac]

its good to have useless knowledge

this knowledge may just win you a million dollars one day

[viscid spear]

Want your mind blown? Here's more info on berries

🍌

[deft flicker]

🥒🍆

[brazen zodiac]

O.O

[viscid spear]

[deft flicker]

Spamming fruit, nothing to see here

[steel spire]

[balmy condor]

why are we spamming me

[limber lion]

!pf 150

??

[balmy condor]

??

wrong off topic cev

[limber lion]

LMAOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

Holy fucjk

[balmy condor]

this is off topic 2

[limber lion]

I didn't even look at the channel

I just saw the messages and assumed it was OT

Oopsie my bad boys

[balmy condor]

if pf was allowed in assassination maybe people would play it

[royal lantern]

if MR was allowed in assassination, it would be the most played rogue spec

[uncut echo]

That one hits hard

[jovial adder]

Is the horse arc still going?

[balmy condor]

the what now

[oak sky]

No arc like horse arc

[neon kindle]

How rvthe monkes today

[balmy condor]

[versed mica]

thistle tea

[royal lantern]

L E A N

[viscid spear]

Powerape

[versed mica]

I 100% misread what you said there 🫠

[viscid spear]

[autumn frost]

What does pf stand for?

[viscid spear]

Pokemon Fusion

It was bot command in Off-Topic (!pf) that randomly picked two Pokemon from Gen 1 (1-151) and made an amalgamation

Used to pick from every gen up to 7 iirc but that hasn't been the case for a while

[royal lantern]

im still salty that its just gen1

why only take the worst gen

like srsly

[cerulean walrus]

True and based

Gen1 sucks balls

[spice spire]

You suck balls

Buddy

[cerulean walrus]

Yeah

Gimme yours

[spice spire]

Ohio man number two inc?

[royal lantern]

least horny #assassination user

[cerulean walrus]

There we go

Come to Ohio

[spice spire]

[cerulean walrus]

Hey guys did you know that Assassination is bad?

[spice spire]

Stop this

[cerulean walrus]

[viscid spear]

Excuse me, my favorite line is from Gen 1

[viscid spear]

I'd rather live in Elden Ring

[cerulean walrus]

Gengar is great

And yes

Gen1 has its outliers

But like

Bruh

Most of that shit is so bad

[spice spire]

ur a hater

[cerulean walrus]

Yes

I am a hater

Gen 1 stinky

Gen 3/4 supremacy

[wary ice]

Liking gen 1 is admitting you're old hard fact

[dusty olive]

https://tenor.com/view/gengar-gengar-pokemon-rise-from-the-ground-gif-23817958

best

[gray crest]

https://tenor.com/view/meow-gif-24525483

[spice spire]

[gaunt moat]

Talents:

1. Purrfect Slice and Dice: Meow-meow! More Slice and Dice for damage time.
2. Claws Out: Rupture sharp, bleeds fast, meow-rrific!
3. Venomous Fangs: Boosted Garrote, Vanish short, meow-some!
4. Feline Finesse: More crits, fast energy, more CP, meow-wow!```

[viscid spear]

Bro 1993 was 30 years ago

[wary ice]

thats basically 3 life times

[spice spire]

y r u all this way

[wary ice]

old?

[deft flicker]

No idea, but berries are yummy 🥒

[balmy condor]

Oh I’m not berry

That’s fine

[deft flicker]

What kind of not berry are you btw??

[bronze pike]

oh another sin rogue suggestion

you know how we have pocket pick?

why not have elite mobs drop :) a special item that increases sin dam by 20% :D

to balance it, you can use pick pocket on bosses, but it'll have a rng chance to fail. so you have to pick pockets bosses a bit for this powerful dps burst gain. so ti has flavor and strength and balanced in a fair way

this replaces dtb too for further balancing

[spice spire]

I’m never letting bro cook again 💀

[gaunt moat]

Where's Raszagath pockets?

Is it her... Drussy?

[bronze pike]

"recieved item: toxic lighting covered egg"

[brazen zodiac]

o.o

[toxic night]

Feels like assas rogue is a meme spec right now lol : F tier mythic+ / Lowest dmg in raid / Struggling in pvp after the constant nerfs idk this is sad and it doesnt even show up on tuning notes

[royal lantern]

welcome to dragonflight buddy

we are allready over the dooming phase

and halfway trought the depression phase

its horny posting now

but dont forget, rogue is op, just check weekly heroic boss dmg logs(everyone is padding adds and ignores the boss, boss dies in 2min)

[toxic night]

sadge

[gaunt moat]

Are we over the doomers doomers phase too?

[royal lantern]

no

thats happening rn

with more people coming and realising how bad it is

after they saw "damm sub/outlaw bad, what about assa? gotta fotm"

[verbal mantle]

some here know really well about dooming

[royal lantern]

they are good games allright

[still sable]

Heya all! Iam mainly a subtlety player and never touched sin deeply enough to know how to play it properly. I want to try the off the meta event next week and I tought its a fun way to learn how to play this spec. Is there any build you would advise for a total sin noob that is nice to learn the rotations with

[royal lantern]

faq has all the builds you need

#assassination-faq

[gaunt moat]

I also made that one a month ago hah

[royal lantern]

but Bargaining is a fact

deleting outlaw would improve the class and the game

[royal lantern]

whats after acceptance in 10.1?

[gaunt moat]

I'll just play feral.

[balmy condor]

Feral is down bad too

Their tier is omega garbage

[gaunt moat]

i'll just play another game

[royal lantern]

10.1 rn is summed up with "play ranged"

cus most melee are not that great lol

[gaunt moat]

my guild is like 70% melee 🥲

And we just recruited a really good feral

[vestal wren]

let them reroll to ret

[oak sky]

Boomkin time

[royal lantern]

a fate, worse than death

[grim jay]

they could just use the old files

and bring back WoD outlaw (the real OG combat)

would be fine aswell

[grim jay]

dunno what they did to boomkin gameplay, but it feels so stale

[still sable]

small question about gear for assassination, is it exactly the same as Subtlety? i just did some testing on raidbots but i sim hugely lower with my assassin spec. (iam geared mainly for subtlety)

[vestal wren]

assassination does like slghtly diffrent stats, all 3 rogue spec love crit tho

!ss you can look at profiles in the spreadsheet to get a rough estimate of it

[prisma monolith]

Rogue Spreadsheet - Light: http://tiny.cc/2bq0vz / Dark: http://tiny.cc/xdu1vz

[rocky ruin]

for me it was crit/mastery, but after sometimes haste become good to again

[still sable]

i just copied one of the builds of top 1 player sin spec as it has a lot of passives for M+ and multitarget damage is fine. but single target is just plainly low

[deft flicker]

Never got to play during the OG combat days, what was it like back then??

[still sable]

sim with sub arround 85k and 55k on sin

[vestal wren]

e.g. assassination on single target

[still sable]

thank you thats helpful

[vestal wren]

vs. subtlety

[rocky ruin]

never i did, but i heard from a lot ppl combat was a cool spec back then

[still sable]

i played combat back in the day and it was fun, it was more built arround being in the shadows

especially pvp and eternal stunlocks

[vestal wren]

you will in the end still need to sim for what gear you have, so raidbots should help you out ^^

[still sable]

thanks fuu ❤️

[vestal wren]

i think people are nostalgic

[still sable]

i think so too, i remember it being waiting a lot on energy and cooldowns

definatly wasnt as quick paced

as we have now

[vestal wren]

there is a small but loud crowd that would love to move the retail design back to classic

[rocky ruin]

@vestal wren why does you spreadsheet so much versa? The ring, daggers and tierset?

for assa

[vestal wren]

its just the result of comparing each gear slot

you can look at simulations

its never as simple as one piece beeing better than the other purely from stats

because you have so many factors

like item level, talents, tier set bonus, special effect items, ....

and it can be that certain items are on par

!fuu

[prisma monolith]

Rogue Spreadsheet - Light: http://tiny.cc/2bq0vz / Dark: http://tiny.cc/xdu1vz

[deft flicker]

A lot of buttons nowadays don’t feel as impactful to press, but at the same time it’s more due to cooldown length, not the abilities themselves

[royal lantern]

yeha, something is wrong then, having "bad" secondarys is a couple hundred dps normaly

[deft flicker]

So I kind of get their point, but current design feels better IMO

[vestal wren]

you can e.g. if you want to see how belts rank up

[winter gale]

Everything is better now than before. Except the lore 😦

[vestal wren]

also one thing is, stats are incredibly close

[winter gale]

Or the general feeling of the game

[still sable]

maybe i did something wrong ill try it again

[vestal wren]

it might take slightly more vers because of the 10.0.7 ring effect

[winter gale]

I went RFD last week via dungeon finder. Nostalgia struck me so hard 🥹

[vestal wren]

tho thats probably higher in impact for #subtlety than #assassination

[royal lantern]

espacily because ALL rogue specs want crit heavy in DF

(and assa always did)

[winter gale]

And then AI became a bitch and sent me to HoA 🤣

[deft flicker]

I stopped following lore after the end of Legion. Got a bit tired of this whole “pitiful locals ask for your help oh great champion!! this hedgehog right here surrounded by 12 of its own corpses dares terrorise our village pls kill it we hope this piece of magic rock that everyone except us seems to know the true power of can be enough to pay for the inconvenience” thing

[vestal wren]

there is a argument for mastery for both sub and sin

because it works rly well in multi target

[deft flicker]

Law doesn’t mind it either it seems

[winter gale]

Same here. Before we were ‘nobody’ and world felt bigger. Now we are a champion that saves the world from patch to patch

But thats for some other channel

[vestal wren]

outlaw has the issue of only having 2 strong stats

[deft flicker]

I know haste doesn’t really do much for outlaw, but some said mastery sims aren’t that far from crit-vers ones

Especially for AoE

[vestal wren]

single target

dungeon slice

mastery seems not terrible with more targets

(currently)

[still sable]

i simmed it wrong..

[royal lantern]

ye, its like

[inner portal]

I'm interested in these charts. May I ask how can I see them? (Hopefully I didn't miss them on faq)

[royal lantern]

rogue secondarys are very very simelar overall

and "wrong" secondarys is never a huge difference

[still sable]

i was like wtf how is this possible xD

now all i gotta do is learn my rotation for single target as i do horrendous damage with the mythic plus build

and learn how not to be out of energy all the time

[vestal wren]

yes, should be fine unless you go haste heavy

[main blaze]

whew that haste scaling lol

[royal lantern]

outlaw players themself are allready on the 19th cup of coffe

the character doesnt need more speed

[cerulean walrus]

More

They need more

Hit that 100+ APM

[vestal wren]

i mean haste is similarly bad for all 3

subtelty (dungeon slice):

assassination (dungeon slice):

[main blaze]

Oh yeah not really commenting on outlaw only, just since i dont use the simc standalone client anymore, I dont get to see these plots as much.

[vestal wren]

you can run stat plots on raidbots too

advanced simulations and you have the "open report" option.
All the stat simulations from the graphs showed are linked in the spreadsheet too

[main blaze]

Oh really? I didnt know that. I will try that out.

[severe orchid]

How does echoing reprimand works? can anyone explain to me please, i am lost

[true basalt]

It empowers some combo points, and if you use a finisher on a blue combo point, it counts as a finisher with full combo points

So lets say u use evenom on 2 combo points but the last one is blue(empowered by echoing reprimand), it’ll deal the damage of an envenom with 6 cp(or 5 if you dont use stratagem which you should use)

@severe orchid

[severe orchid]

that seems a pain to manage

like i suppose to use it on 2-3 according to the buff it gives?

[red swift]

it also "uses up" that point, so you only only get that benefit on a particular point once per cast of ER

[true basalt]

You just play normally, and if you generate combo points enough to hit a blue one, you just use the finisher then

[red swift]

it lasts 45 seconds too, so if you happen to land on an empowered point you just send the finisher then, but don't try to force it, you have time to use them up

[true basalt]

Yes exactly

[severe orchid]

does anyone have Wa for the combo points ?
Mine doesnt seems to be working

[true basalt]

I did one thing but thats just for me to use it better, i downloaded a WA which tracks this thing , and i added a jedi sword sound everytime my combo points land on an empowered one

[severe orchid]

do you mind sharing them?

[true basalt]

I cant atm cuz im not home but if no one gives u the WA for that, i can share it when i get home

[severe orchid]

thanks

[true basalt]

I also added sounds to rupture and garrote. If i switch to a target with no dots, that sounds just pops out and i use the dots on them

[red swift]

I'm just using elvui and it marks the combo points on the tracker so I didn't need one, afraid I can't help with this

[true basalt]

I am more of an audio reflex player 😭

I cant play wow with music cuz i use audio to react to stuff

[severe orchid]

i tried making some custom for assassination from my sublety, cant seems to making it work for crimson tempest

[deft flicker]

NugComboBar can be used if all you need is a CP tracker

[storm belfry]

I just turn off in game music when I want to listen to music. Still have sound effects and dialogue on

[foggy temple]

Will be still be using the same crafted gear just upgraded in 10.1?

[open marlin]

they changed how lariat works, and buffed a few of the embellishments, and flaring cowl was particularly good because it procc'd the eggnog ring... so we'll have to see how BiS sims work out, and also you'll have to sim yourself for the lariat as you lose and regain sockets over the tier

[foggy temple]

Thanks. I just got a spark and wondering if flaring or another dagger would be the safer choice going into patch

[winged veldt]

@eternal nymph since when is there a new spark? Where is this info at because only thing I was tracking is a new primal not a new spark

I dont doubt there is one just asking cuz it seems I am out of the loop on this

"Spark of Shadowflame" nevermind lol

[red swift]

yeah, they aren't available yet but will be in the new patch

[midnight spire]

hey!!

how do you get 100% chance on poison bomb?

[royal lantern]

you....dont?

[uncut echo]

Huh?

[midnight spire]

no, may be half the time it goes off.

8% chance per combo point spend... thats max 56%?

but when I check warcraft logs... they have 100% chance. HOW

[royal lantern]

they dont?

its litearlly 40-48% for everyone

there is no 100% poison bomb lol

i think you confuse it with the enemy having 100% of the PB duration as a uptime

aka the tanks never moved enemys out of it when it proced

[midnight spire]

must be warcraft logs thing... showing same casts for envenom and poison bomb.

[royal lantern]

yeha, thats either the most lucky MF in the world

or wowlogs just beeing wonky

[red swift]

I think it's warcraft logs being wonky, I checked my logs and on both bosses I bothered checking it says the same number of casts for envenom and poison bomb

[spice spire]

Post sauce

[uncut echo]

I too would like to delve

[royal lantern]

https://tenor.com/view/poe-pathofexile-delve-hackandslash-video-game-gif-12424258

somone said delve?

[storm belfry]

Tf is that

[echo heath]

The most underrated league in forever

[viscid spear]

The WNBA?

[static glacier]

is it ever a gain to mut over ambush during dm + lust?

since energy is a non factor + double poison app

[royal lantern]

eh, iirc there was like

during execute+hero going on, it would be a 0,1% gain or shit like that

like

yeha

[static glacier]

but not during pull on razs for example

[royal lantern]

dont even think about it, enjoy those ambush into ambush into ambush into ambush moments

[inland basalt]

Would yall take a percent gain in mastery/vers and lose item level for the drakebreaker wrist/belt two set before being upgraded?

Currently have conquest gear on wrist and blue drakebreaker belt on, or is this nitpicking

[uncut echo]

Nitpicking because in pve you'll just get a piece to 415 via valor.

[storm belfry]

Could just sim it as well

[warm plover]

Why do you vanish garrote just before esxang in opener? inst more worth to vanish garrote after the bleed run out? Is it to sync vanish and deathmark for the 2nd use?

[royal lantern]

sync+getting an absolute max duration exsang garrote

the difference bettwen syncing it and not is trivial minimal, so we just sync for convenience

[warm plover]

tyty

[cunning nest]

Would many Problems of sin disappear, if Blizz Sets the scent-talent to 2 points with the same Power (1.5% agi per rupture)? This could lead to a better accessibility to carnage overall and provide better st options for aoe builts. What do you guys think?

(And I know: exh needs to get deletet or redesigned, but it seems like Blizz will need time or a easier solution for now^^)

[balmy condor]

so the question is

does getting 1 talent point extra on the spec tree

fix the spec

[silk bane]

i mean obviously.... if i had one more point i could take doulbe shiv and just shiv both my eyes out so i have an excuse to finally stop playing this game

[royal lantern]

not just the spec tree, but also world hunger

[burnt latch]

I think sin would be in a better spot if u could select every talent in the spec tree

Maybe no double choice node selections

But every other talent should be able to grab once u reach max level

[oak sky]

not enough tbh

[royal lantern]

at max level, you should be able to multiclass imo

[winged quail]

feel like 1 more point is just one more in the execute talent, nothing changes

[static glacier]

issue is we take too much investment to do meaningful st or aoe

pointwise

[subtle tundra]

issue is ic

[balmy condor]

issue is spell icup

[burnt latch]

issue is varas

varas do u know what your name means in my language

[oak sky]

i do!

[burnt latch]

Finnish spy

[oak sky]

nopge

ive just seen someone say it before

[subtle tundra]

i think it would be obvious its intentional that the rogue's name is thief

[burnt latch]

Cultural appropriation

[subtle tundra]

i started using this name back in like 2015 or 2016

i was pretty young

[burnt latch]

Youre old

[subtle tundra]

yes

[burnt latch]

Haha oldieee

[subtle tundra]

(21 is very old)

[burnt latch]

[subtle tundra]

basically ancient

[burnt latch]

Washed up

Get young loser

[subtle tundra]

pre 18 yo me was something else

gaming master

[burnt latch]

[subtle tundra]

now im just kinda casual

[oak sky]

oldge

[subtle tundra]

this yogurt had a small hole in its cover

should i eat

[sweet dawn]

Just did some keys as sub... why can't we do that much damage for 0 effort cries

[oak sky]

no

[subtle tundra]

huh

i shall ask for advice and ignore it

[sweet dawn]

(for context I basically never play sub, I'm a sin boi 4 lyfe)

[spice spire]

Real

[storm belfry]

I do less damage as sub in keys than sin. But I’m bad

[grim jay]

Different angle. Maybe you are just too good on sin

[storm belfry]

My sub damage is laughable man idk

[haughty flicker]

Need to spam black powder and shuriken storm harder

The more times you press the button during gcd the more damage it does

[storm belfry]

Lmao

For instance I did a RLP. I think on sub I Managed 80k? (Don’t quote me). But on sin I can do 100-110

Idk maybe I don’t use tea properly

[echo heath]

I keybind T to Thistle tea, t for tea

Makes sense in my brain

[storm belfry]

Mine is same keybind as sin. But I just use it bad as sub I guess

Probs other stuff too tbh

So simple when I read it and I think im doing it right bht the numbers just aren’t there

[static glacier]

yo guys, need feedback on this powerpoint i've made

[prime stirrup]

rasz fight = wipe 100 times to p1 winds, 30 times to intermission, 10 times to p2 intermission and then finally kill boss 3rd time into 3rd phase

its been so nerfed at this point most classes should have no problem with p1 winds which is literally where 90% of the learning curve is

[static glacier]

i wish this was about that

xd

[burnt latch]

Who the hell is Max and why is he making me stop dps

[static glacier]

it's my rl

and we've got this meme that i dont stop dps

in reality it's just dm ticking

as he calls stop dps

so i keep climbing

[burnt latch]

[drifting cloud]

https://tenor.com/view/plink-cat-meme-plink-cat-meme-plink-cat-gif-27534505

[burnt latch]

[vapid sierra]

any of you guys pvp?

what should the opener look like

it aint in pvp faq

[woeful meteor]

Just get your dots and snd up as fast as you can the rest is kinda irrelevant

you dont deal really deal dmg on your first kidney

e.g. gar -> snd -> gar -> sbs -> rupture -> mfd -> kidney -> shiv

[hollow river]

there's also #pvp if you have any questions

[vapid sierra]

gotcha ty

didnt see it

[hollow river]

yeah it's kinda hidden down in the dungeon

[thorn fjord]

Finally

[drifting cloud]

gratz!

[steel spire]

gg

[autumn frost]

Congratulations!

[gaunt moat]

congrats!

[runic hinge]

gratz!

[gaunt moat]

We're still on intermission 2

[grim tangle]

I too killed raszageth today :)

[storm forum]

grats!

[thorn fjord]

Party on Wayne

[pure moth]

grats

i was at 40% all night

[gaunt moat]

btw, any tips for phase 2?
Right now i'm just kinda sendin' everything whenever.
usually my pot comes off CD in the middle of 1st shields.
i use grieftorch off CD
then 3rd shields I use DM again.

obviously, shields damage is not an issue and they break easily.
I'm just wondering if you're doing anything differently

[steel ridge]

We dont use pot on pull and halt damage after 4th wind so pots become available beginning of phase 2 and 3

After the nerfs intermission 1 is so much shorter

Or easier to get up in time

[gaunt moat]

yeah, i think i'll stop potting on pull as well.
we already have our other rogue not dpsing at all that phase and we still push too quick.

[steel ridge]

we dont want to fiddle with all cd assignments in intermssion and stuff, for me it doesnt make a difference but others might not be so flexible

[lavish hazel]

do we pull energy for shiv ?

[steel ridge]

just send it if you dont have the 2 charge talent

if you do, you can get away with not sending it on cd asap

in other words, no you dont pool

[lavish hazel]

do i have to be 4+ cp to send it ?

to envenom just after ?

and how many env do i have to do in shiv window ?

[royal lantern]

you dont aim for that stuff tbh

like, you just send shiv on cd, ammount of envenoms is not an important thing, can wait 1-2 seconds with an envenom when you have finisher CP and shiv is comming up in the next 1-2 Seconds, but you dont massively play around it

[lavish hazel]

ok thx

do i have to try to maintain envenom buff ?

[royal lantern]

it maintains itself in DF

we have a ridicolous envenom uptime without focusing on it

atleast in st, for m+ aoe you try to keep envenom up after all bleeds+CT are out bettwen the other abilitys

[vestal wren]

nicu, big gz

[drifting cosmos]

sin buffs coming tomorrow?

[jade abyss]

Yesterday i was running a 20 sbg with a sin rogue. Tank was pulling like a maniac, sin wasnt able to restealth not even before bosses... and then the tank was flaming on the trash pack after first and second boss, bcs the silence from IW with IC.. was feeling so sad for the sin rogue ._.

[steel ridge]

garbage tank

looking forward to BTM with sin, tanks will have to adapt 😄

iron wire is really powerful if the group actually knows its happening and dont slam in their aoe cc on pull

[jade abyss]

But i was messeging the rogue afterwards. He was playing outlaw before and wanted to test sin. Normaly i know the opposite way 😅

[steel ridge]

like most just do, burn all stuns in the first 2 seconds and flame afterwards

[subtle tundra]

i mean

just dont talent into iw for sbg

[royal lantern]

why

silence the dominators

let them MC teammates and dot them

=more dps

[subtle tundra]

😇

[royal lantern]

[jade abyss]

When i got mced when boon or wethstone is active, i do damage to my group?

[marble hemlock]

or just dont press IC on those 2 packs

[subtle tundra]

or idk... press garrote after the first 3 seconds

but i'd rather play poe

[marble hemlock]

just triple garrote on the skellies and then do ic after those have run out

[viscid spear]

Or just don't play Rogue

[steel ridge]

we back to dooming 😄

[jade abyss]

Lets play feral or bm

[serene fossil]

Back to implies dooming wasnt on the table for some time it never was gone

[uncut echo]

It was gone, yes

[steel ridge]

outlaw was heavily dooming yesterday

[serene fossil]

All the time

[royal lantern]

ye but outlaw is the ADHD crowd

they dont have the attention span to doom for longer periods

[steel ridge]

we are looking at 2 more patches/builds at most before 10.1 release

slapping some last minute +5% aura buff on rogue, wait for it

[modest glen]

Rogue
Assassination
All ability damage increased by 3%.

[royal lantern]

• 5% on rupture and crimson tempest

fixed it

[modest glen]

Something like this i bet

[steel ridge]

i still want to see a single change to IC (applies the stealth multiplier to garrote)

and if you wanna go the extra mile reduce its CD to 30 seconds

[uncut echo]

3% is 3%

And we'll get another 3% after that

And another

Like

There's zero reason to lose your shit rn

[valid leaf]

Why would you lose your shit

[uncut echo]

Because this channel gets slowmoded weekly

And it's Monday

[steel ridge]

haha

[royal lantern]

time for slowmode!

[deft flicker]

That is so unbelievably true

[steel ridge]

the other day i thought about how awesome the fusion of IC + Sepsis would be

applying sepsis to all 8 IC targets and gaining a stealth ability use

i would nut

IC wouldnt be a dead button in ST anymore and do something worthwhile

[shut owl]

I'm missing where the IC improves ST in that

[steel ridge]

easy, you get more improved garrote uptime and sepsis on the target, how does that not improve ST?

[deft flicker]

Might be cooked but what if Iron Wire worked on Sepsis regardless of stealth

[shut owl]

oh; you mean what if IC and sepsis were the same button; not if they had synergies

[steel ridge]

FUSION

[jade abyss]

Btw f*** exsang

[steel ridge]

sepsis on its own is a somewhat dead talent rn, give it a second life baking it into IC

[jade abyss]

Give us kingsbane back

[shut owl]

my dude; folks use fusion/combo/wombo/whatever other thing the kids are saying nowadays fairly interchangably in the virtual meatspace that is discord

[tacit wedge]

boldest take on this channel

[steel ridge]

no idea what you are talking about

you just didnt read it

[shut owl]

I did, but ok

[deft flicker]

Could be even bolder with ** on either side

[tacit wedge]

only hot takes on this discord apparently

[steel ridge]

how would you understand fusing IC and Sepsis together understand any differently? both effects in one ability, same position as IC currently, sepsis could be tuned accordingly to not deal absurd amounts of damage.

[tacit wedge]

Bring back kingslayer, spec is saved

[steel ridge]

fixing Assassination has like a few viable options, blizzard just needs to grow some balls and actually do something to its aoe that might overshoot it, but they overshoot regularly ret cough

[static glacier]

idk, ret aoe has been good for a long time

this expac and the last

before the rework ret aoe was powerful too

[steel ridge]

was talking about ret as a whole

its just ridiculously overtuned

but blizzard did it regardless

[static glacier]

I just don't understand this arbitrary decision that our aoe should be subpar while feral gets good aoe out of nowhere.

[steel ridge]

why they arent taking a risk with assassination is beyond me

[static glacier]

nevermind aoe, let us be good at low target cleave again

[steel ridge]

that comes automatically with good ST tuning

but aoe is fixeable via a few knobs, like giving CT a negative scaling with less targets hit and up the damage a ton

[flint tusk]

[steel ridge]

oh and delete exsang

[flint tusk]

You guys making exsang get excited

Going all uwu on you all

[deft flicker]

[static glacier]

honestly it's just tuning for exsang, I personally don't play it about 60% of the time in raid

not a fan of it on raszageth at all for example

[steel ridge]

no its not just tuning, the ability sucks

not numberwise

[static glacier]

ah to play? it does break up our regular gameplay ye

[steel ridge]

it literally is garbage design

[deft flicker]

New business plan: give exsang to sub, they like planning stuff anyways

[flint tusk]

It’s pretty unique in what it does.
And having on demand melting is pretty fun.
Especially in pvp. Got i remember when it was 400%!

It’s new CD just makes it super clunky.

[static glacier]

woulda been better as something more like old hemo, idk

I don't like it either but after a bit of time you get used to it

[flint tusk]

Dude that would be so busted 😂
Sub ruptures hurt like hell

[shut owl]

didn't sub just have the discussion of "our spec is broken because we literally don't plan anything and just send on repeat"? XD

[deft flicker]

New CD is like an “Under Construction” sign

[flint tusk]

“Emergency nerf ahead of spec rework”

[static glacier]

we were told exsang would be revisited, many hoped in 10.1, we can see that it's not being touched.

[deft flicker]

They like planning stuff and being a “short burst window spec”, it’s just that the game doesn’t allow for that to happen

[static glacier]

short burst window when gloomblade hits as hard as shs xd

[deft flicker]

They didn’t like that it was competing with capstones in terms of power per node so they tried to make it not worth picking ig, but it still is sometimes

[deft flicker]

Yeah, that’s the issue. Short 1-GCD bursts happening every GCD

Burst spec

[static glacier]

they keep buffing shadowblades

[flint tusk]

Yeh,
Missed opportunity really as they probably could have straight swapped it with kingsbane with how ‘weak’ Kb is. But guess they didn’t like the tree flow if they did that.

[static glacier]

I wonder when sub will have burst

rip wod

[deft flicker]

They might have something big coming up and want to address any current issues with as little effort as possible

[static glacier]

just buff fan and i'd be happy going into next patch, I've lost hope of them fixing the underlying issues

just wanna feel like im not griefing my raid wanting to play sin on any fight with aoe

[deft flicker]

Also KB is in the poison side of the tree while Exsang is bleed-oriented so that wouldn’t make much sense

[flint tusk]

Well apparently a second shadow priest rework in two patches was more important 😂

[uncut echo]

Make it a pvp talent

Doesnt deserve to exist in pvm

[static glacier]

any class with only 1 dps spec will always be fixed faster / get more attention than a spec among 3 dps specs

[shut owl]

gimme that pre-tuning CT damage on next tier; I want to suffer gloriously with three bleeds. just make CT copied for funsies and see what happens

[static glacier]

look at survival, ignored for how long?

they put more time into more popular specs

[shut owl]

what survival? I see them dead more than surviving

[static glacier]

[tacit wedge]

Doomposting? In my #assassination?

[shut owl]

that said; hilariously fun spec to play

[tacit wedge]

[static glacier]

next raid unironically looking good for us

more st

[deft flicker]

When assassination doesn’t assassinate

[static glacier]

and I think the tier is pretty strong numerically

[shut owl]

we exsang tho

cuz everyone loves exsanguinating 😄

[deft flicker]

Spec renamed to Exsanguination

[shut owl]

yes

[static glacier]

hold up

WHAT IF EXSANG IS OUR SPENDER AND ENVENOM IS THE CD

[brazen lantern]

Hunter is decently tanky tho especially sv

[tacit wedge]

Remember when our mastery only boosted our poisons

[dark bridge]

Ret has been hot garbage for a really long time

[static glacier]

utility / defensively sure, damage has been middle of the pack overall forever

strong aoe, good cds but fake dmg outside of wings

[tacit wedge]

Nightblade makes a grand return and gets added to sin rogue because we love dots so much and that's how blizzard wants to fix us

[burnt latch]

How is this a good thing for assa

[cursive frost]

Does the 4pc bonus look to rearrange how we group our CDs?

[static glacier]

we're not bad st

[dark bridge]

DPS wise Im pretty sure ret had historically been the worst performing spec ever

[uncut echo]

No, view it as a passicr increase

[static glacier]

this is just untrue

[burnt latch]

Youve been playing a different game to me on ptr then

[cursive frost]

Thanks ahri

[uncut echo]

Glad to help!

[static glacier]

im coping our live performance will remain for next tier, let me huff my cope

if not y'know they'll give us that juicy 3% aurabuff

[tacit wedge]

Remember when we said CN was THE raid for sin because it had lots of st? Didn't we got beaten by sub?

[burnt latch]

More like 10% aurabuff needed

[uncut echo]

I mean spec needed 30% aura buffs

In cn

[cursive frost]

I never feel inadequate in ST, but I do feel really at mercy to fight lengths on my final dps

[uncut echo]

Bad correllary

[uncut echo]

That's bad play

[static glacier]

I feel relatively untouched st, others need good rng or pi to compete

atm that is

after they nerfed bm

[uncut echo]

Fight lengths only matter for fishing for high parses

[cursive frost]

More of a feelsbad when a fight is ending right before DM comes back

And that’s what I am referencing is parsing lol

Nothing actually important

[shut owl]

Turtle + SotF for a 2min and then some cdr-reduced cd right? haven't raided with surv yet. Maybe I'm just spoiled with rogue/arms/priest for defensives on short cd

[static glacier]

as someone who plays sv as my main alt

it is NOT tanky

[cursive frost]

I don’t mind exsang personally but wish it was on a 2 min cd to align with DM.

[tacit wedge]

Being asked by my RL why i'm OK with swapping from sin to arms warrior and not fury warrior, just to tell him that they're both bleed based specs

[static glacier]

least tanky class ingame tbh

[uncut echo]

I went arms for my guild

Don't attack me like this

[tacit wedge]

i can't play fury for shite, i love my wrists too much for that

i'm too young for carpal tunnel

[shut owl]

yisssss.
Started as arms, then swapped to sin because I enjoy wacky m+ bleed specs 😛

[tacit wedge]

i miss Legion Arms, when the mastery was about
yknow
managing your colossus window

[uncut echo]

Arms in m+ fucks so hard

[tacit wedge]

and not just a bleed you get from pressing MS on cooldown

[shut owl]

it does now

[uncut echo]

Legion arms focus rage

AHHHH

SO GOOD

[tacit wedge]

holy shit yes
warbreaker>get In for the kill>Thunderous roar

[shut owl]

it did not on 10.0
you either crushed trash on fort... or were mid/sad on tyrannical

[tacit wedge]

getting Colossus Smash refunds back to back to back

[brazen lantern]

Turtle, sotf on 2.4min cd, you have 15% passive leech or a 20% last stand on 2min cd from pet, 6% avoidance, exhil every minute

[shut owl]

or you were a weirdo like maid with his hybrid shenanigans... or even more weirdo like me with my no-execute bleed build

[tacit wedge]

T20 4P with the legendary head 😩

[uncut echo]

WE BLADESTORMING

WE GOIN CRAZY

[tacit wedge]

T20 arms warrior was so simple

first we bladestorm

then

pretty sure i broke a keyboard during nighthold

[uncut echo]

I swapped back to spriest bc I never got my fun hat

But I lived vicariously through others

[shut owl]

getting ready for spriest rework #3 this raid-tier

[tacit wedge]

i got death threats from my guildmates twice in Legion

1)got the funnee hat on my warrior before the old-timer warrior player
2)i got a titanforged Eye of Command on my rogue before the DH

[shut owl]

was asked to funnel PI's into ww monk the other night. felt real weird

[uncut echo]

Got a 6x titanforged 940 arcano by accident in 7.3 without farming

I feel u

[tacit wedge]

At least he bought me a beer when we met on a guild meeting

[gray crest]

I had all titan forged heroic gear

So I ended up being mythic geared without stepping into mythic

I ended up getting into a guild on argus prog because of it

[royal lantern]

Gamer moment

[tacit wedge]

to be clear, it wasn't actual death threats

just very angry letters ingame

ppl just mad i'm giga lucky on loot

got my fenryr fangs on 7 kills

[brazen lantern]

Actual letters ingame?

[uncut echo]

Yeah, you don't get hate mail telling you to kill yourself?

Haha, weird.

[thorn fjord]

I would love that

Shows someone was thinking about me 🙂

[spice spire]

[thorn fjord]

I woke up hungry but with a bad stomach ache

why do these things happen

[brazen lantern]

No i cant mail myself

[uncut echo]

I gotchu. Backdoorpush ye?

[brazen lantern]

😳

[thorn fjord]

ye

[tacit wedge]

yes

[viscid spear]

I got Icon, Eye of Skovald, and Ragefeather by the end of the second week of this season on my Mage.
Some people in AT are tilted over that.

[tacit wedge]

Looted a Eye of Skovald on my first HoV run with our DH main

homie was begging so hard

[royal lantern]

i got melandrus ring this season on my 2nd run

upgraded it to max lvl, just to drop it again with a socket 2days later

[viscid spear]

I had that Eye sitting in my bags for the longest time since running Icon/Feather was the play. Once I needed more Crit I was able to boost it up.

[royal lantern]

[viscid spear]

Did a CoS a while back this season where the Holy Priest and Warlock each got a ring.
Lock gave his to tank

[tacit wedge]

got my ragefeather in my weekly chest after a weekly +20 no leaver no cowards only gamers at 3 in the morning

[viscid spear]

Meanwhile my Rogue has the worst luck

[tacit wedge]

got grieftorch and fenryr in the first weeks

how i slept at night following that

[spice spire]

I’m about to give that toon more letters

[viscid spear]

Just ship me a box of L's

[gusty mirage]

Me every day for the last 3 weeks

[gusty mirage]

You play a mage, you’re already there

[thorn fjord]

1 week left

You're almost there

[unborn geode]

before the guild knew the priority of PI's (the unholy dks demanded them) my affliction lock got them all... i think i broke logs a few times because i could get 8 a fight

[fading wigeon]

Eid Friday!!!

Woohoo

[earnest remnant]

quake was it you that wanted proof that pre cloaking runes works?

[spice spire]

Yes

Because the only log I found it did not work

But it was from 12/27

[earnest remnant]

https://clips.twitch.tv/GracefulFancyConsoleBrokeBack-u0T4MjX8moub-rqA

[spice spire]

Eleem also showed a video of it working tho

[earnest remnant]

dont mind him dying to being colour blind

but yeh it works

[spice spire]

I mean mood

I legit have a weak aura to tell me where tf I go tho

Speed is a mood god damn

[earnest remnant]

"was so focused on the tech"

[rare jackal]

oh you get one shot if you step into the wrong rune?

i didnt know that

[viscid spear]

Jalen Hurts right now

[viscid spear]

I think it just does an obscene amount of damage, so key level scaling

[rare jackal]

i see

[viscid spear]

I could be wrong, I'm on my lunch and too lazy to look it up

[gusty mirage]

https://tenor.com/view/bless-hands-hands-up-kpop-sunglasses-gif-14664908

[spice spire]

“You’re so ducking dumb”
“I am, Rez me.”

[wary ice]

What does precloaking do?

[spice spire]

Allow you to not take damage from the the runes

[wary ice]

Like at all?

[spice spire]

It supposedly is a bug and has to be done within 1s of cast

Yeah you take 0 damage that phase

[wary ice]

That's pog

[spice spire]

In whispyr’s log, he did it 2s before and took full damage

Meant to copy link not message zzzz

#assassination message

[wary ice]

I love spaghetti tech

[tawny bloom]

just seen this but i can top this. I got my eranog ring on wednesday. We got 2HC drops and 1 mythic drop entire tier. Everyone except me had it in vault. I want the dinars back

[spice spire]

[viscid spear]

Mage had Mythic Eranog ring in Vault two weeks in a row

It's God awful for Frost

[uncut echo]

Play a real spec

Like fire

[spice spire]

Sin rogues saying to play a real spec

[uncut echo]

Arms enjoyer

Sorry king

I'm gone

[silk bane]

ahris just a menace to society at this point

[uncut echo]

(Not really)

[silk bane]

federal prison pls

lock her up

[uncut echo]

:c

[spice spire]

Done

She’s in warrior prison

[silk bane]

imagine being in warr prison in 10.1 smh

[uncut echo]

Woyer :3

[spice spire]

Yeah imagine going off role in 10.1

[uncut echo]

Couldn't be you

[spice spire]

We’re still on hopium

[silk bane]

i definitely didnt spend 3 hours building my mage UI/WA for 10.1. couldnt be me

[spice spire]

For a decent xhange

[spice spire]

Mf hates himself

Mage/rogue least attention

[silk bane]

lowkey i think im punishing myself...

but like what else am i gonna play? feral? arms? Susge

imagine being a dh oooofff

[spice spire]

Yeah

I’m on flex duty for next tier atm

Rogue/feral/warrior/tank

[uncut echo]

Yeah. I'm maintaining my rogue and warrior.

[spice spire]

Once notes finalized. I’ll have to semi maintain two toons

[silk bane]

honestly might not be a bad idea to try healing/tanking if it goes like htis

like I enjoy rogue and fire mage only. and uh theyre lookign susge. atleast fires doing damage

[uncut echo]

You guys still raiding on the casual side?

[spice spire]

Yeah - the two toons is a me thing

[uncut echo]

I gotcha.

[spice spire]

Starting heroic week one

[viscid spear]

[uncut echo]

Same!

First time ever doing that.

Kinda hyped as fuck tbh.

[royal lantern]

heroic week1 is not THAT hard at the 2nd tier and following stuff

like, you are allready "normal" geared by default

[spice spire]

Yeah

That’s the logic

Cuz like, 10.0, heroic week one, sure that’s an ask.
But 10.1 you should be chuckling

[royal lantern]

not always

when we have stuff like azshara as an example

[uncut echo]

Man

10.0 heroic week one

I think had one of the highest gear deltas in recordind wow history

~378 to 402-411?

[spice spire]

I mean my guild will still take a few weeks to clear. But it should be quicker

[viscid spear]

Sounds like an Officer issue

[oak sky]

Its probably gonna be 7 or 8/9 week 1 for most ce guilds i think

[spice spire]

Dps issue (I’m tanking)

[viscid spear]

Tanking the charts

Just have you and Faill tank, complete control

[spice spire]

Nah faill isn’t tanking

It’s papa and me/balt/potentially a trial.
I’m at the mercy of patch notes and sims

Both are ready for w1 tho

[dark token]

It's cause they opened up m+ at the same time

[viscid spear]

Well I should be fine, but I'll work on SPriest for a backup (DH is hovering just under 400 tho)

[spice spire]

[thorn fjord]

I don’t get the name

I must be dumb

[uncut echo]

Which name

Mike Ehrmanclout?

[spice spire]

https://tenor.com/view/breaking-bad-better-call-saul-mike-ehrmantraut-gif-26551023

[wary ice]

i heard he broke bad

[thorn fjord]

Ohh

He was always so tired

[uncut echo]

I loved Mike.

[spice spire]

I loved me too

[languid pier]

Is still the priority Crit-)Mastery-)Versa-)Haste?

[balmy condor]

Always been haste over vers

[languid pier]

Yh mb

Ty

[unborn geode]

i miss when haste was king and we had vemon rush to help counter energy drain

[royal lantern]

haste does almost nothing for energy mate

crit has a bigger impact on the gameplay cus you generate more cp, more cp=more finishers, and finishers are cheap energy wise

[balmy condor]

I mean the reason haste isn’t king and we don’t have venom rush

Is there is no energy drain to counter

The spec is basically maxed out

[royal lantern]

yeha, energy is insane in DF aswell

cant go much higher

[oak sky]

Energysang

Thistle tenergy

[royal lantern]

but like, haste was never a good stat cus "omg more energy"

[unborn geode]

haste wasn't was for energy regen, it was for attacks. which worked with our mastery for extra poison dmg and we do have venom rush but its a in a terrible location in the tree to take.

[royal lantern]

yep

@balmy condor whats your gut felling, will they tune down energy gain a bit for the next expac? cus for sure wont happen in DF

[balmy condor]

No clue

I hope so

[oak sky]

My gut feeling is not tuning anything 💀

No but actually why would they tune it down they like homogenization

[royal lantern]

the stupid high energy generation is also a reason why sub is so.......broken right now

[oak sky]

Thistle tea is the root of all evils basically

[royal lantern]

not even tea itself, just to much energy in general everywhere

the class tree can be summed up with "energy lol"

tea is 1 of the 2000000things

[oak sky]

No that doesnt follow my narrative

[royal lantern]

i mean, tea is 1 of the bigger offenders

[oak sky]

A lot of this shit is a result of the old trees migrating to the new trees

[unborn geode]

i feel sub has to energy regen, i haven't touch outlaw so can't say.

Tea itself i feel is nice but when you are out of charges you feel starved and have to tone back a bit to make sure you don't run out of energy to use for your bleeds

[oak sky]

Deeper and vigor together

Exsang and alacrity i guess

Like i think if you look at the old model there were a lot of talents with tradeoffs

Now you just kinda assemble the avengers

[royal lantern]

the problem is, its hard to make sub a "burst spec" when it has 20 talents that give it high dmg outside of its "burst windows" and also near endless energy overall

[oak sky]

Lingering 😴

[royal lantern]

thats why we ended up with a spec that instead of playing around its CD's for big burst, just sends on CD and has gloomblade as #1 dmg source

[burnt latch]

Haste is biggest reason for high energies i only run haste cuzz 1 tiem i have no energ for garret and was no bleed for 5 second

[oak sky]

True

Low haste makes my opener feel bad

[royal lantern]

real and based

[spice spire]

I’m gonna need u to hop off the tl

[royal lantern]

same with crit

imagine playing with less than 34% crit

unplayable

[unborn geode]

sub 30% is terrible.. over 30% its do able.. 34%+ is smooth

[oak sky]

💀

[balmy condor]

I can’t tell if bro is trolling

[burnt latch]

Team liquido? No me thas James (im frend u mightbe know JPC) so is ok soemtime get confused for 1 to 2 rogue x) both love assa

[oak sky]

Nochill?

Or was it no trickz

[royal lantern]

same, just go with the flow

[oak sky]

I cant keep track 😅

[burnt latch]

I ply more healing potion no point for trick left soz

[oak sky]

I dont damage pot i only healing pot

Same icd

[burnt latch]

Good stratagy

[royal lantern]

til: you play vulpera

[oak sky]

🚫

[unborn geode]

i only use damage pots -_-s

[burnt latch]

Bad stratagy

[oak sky]

I have never pressed a damage pot in a key

[burnt latch]

Good stratagy

[royal lantern]

same lmao

[unborn geode]

eh... to each their own... i have our rogue potion and my bag of tricks for healz...

[oak sky]

I have my pickpocketed special effect on crimson vial

And my reworked exsang

And smart rupture

And bugfixed lethality and nighstalker

[spice spire]

[oak sky]

What else were we either borderline promised or implied?

[dark token]

are you playing in 12.0

[burnt latch]

More bitches

[oak sky]

Pretty sure its 13.0

[burnt latch]

Currently got 0

[oak sky]

Yeah man when do i get the gf dlc

God hasnt updated my life in a min

[spice spire]

Unlucky man

You got them next tier

Trust

[burnt latch]

Yeah i think ill get some when the patch notes come out tbh

Feeling confident

[oak sky]

Real

Its springtime

We up

[burnt latch]

[steel spire]

CE in game aotc irl

[storm belfry]

I have internet again

[spice spire]

Huge

[latent gazelle]

More like CE in game, lfr irl

[storm belfry]

bro i went from 44 mpbs to 521

🥹

[weak plover]

More like. We still in vanilla irl baby

[steel spire]

I love doomer chat

[spice spire]

[empty hinge]

Team what’s the tuning we’re getting this reset on ptr

I’m certain we’re getting one

[atomic star]

kingsbane +4% damage

not enough to make it better just enough to make you sad

[fading wigeon]

Sin will be the best rogue spec by week 2

[atomic star]

I don't doubt it will be great in the next tier, looks like a single target fest

[royal lantern]

he doesnt know

[upper breach]

does the mastery bonus from thistle tea snap shot any garrotes/ruptures you cast during the time?

[drifting cosmos]

no it doesnt, dont think so

would have been very annoying to use tea in that case

[upper breach]

damn, appreciate the response

[gaunt moat]

some pvp nerf

[runic hinge]

Love that for us

[drifting cosmos]

another week

[spice spire]

[drifting cloud]

https://tenor.com/view/bored-waiting-impatient-gif-8821134

[arctic current]

whats the best way to spec into more ST dam for M+ tyrannical weeks without losing to much AoE?

[balmy condor]

playing a different spec

assassinations tree is real rigid

[arctic current]

Sub is just so boring though ><

[upper trail]

you couldd play outlaw?

[royal lantern]

death over outlaw 🙂

[steel spire]

reroll ret

[somber fractal]

do we have an idea of what the best crafted pieces are gonna be in 10.1?

[steel ridge]

dagger most likely

[somber fractal]

sorry i mean embellishments

assuming lariat stays

but wondering if the fire helm gets overtaken by something like those new toxic shoulders

[drowsy hollow]

Barring likely nerfs, it'd be that massive defensive cloak haha