assassination

[royal lantern]

oh shut up you brainlet

[dark token]

sin is saved

[lusty surge]

Yw

[royal lantern]

yes #assassination did that

[burnt latch]

Hey atleast i dont need to play rogue in this weeks raid testing cuz theres nothing to test

[royal lantern]

only this channel

nothing else

thats some "seli hates outlaw and got it nerfed during beta" shit

[dark token]

i blame @royal lantern specifically

[royal lantern]

yes pls

[oak sky]

can we just make the spec based around snd

can we like

have 0 energy

and just press snd

and fill with envenom

[royal lantern]

i send a dm to every single blizzard dev that they need to nerf ct

[spice spire]

No troll today please expecting the worst so actually have good behavior for once in your lives

(This is about as fruitful as hoping for rogue changes, but yk I believe)

[dark token]

at least rogue has its first change in 4 months now

@burnt latch chronii apped to my key do i take or nah

mages are sus

[narrow pelican]

.

[royal lantern]

accept, take the mage food, then kick

[burnt latch]

Well they did make all three specs have competitive options for all content in the talent tree early in beta (sub left side, current assa left side) so its fine having to go one patch without changes 🙂 10.2 we will get more focus and bloom late expac!

[burnt latch]

He is blaster

Big damug if u want mage

[subtle kiln]

first it was Exsang. now CT. what’s next?

[storm belfry]

At least DH is blasting in AOE

[gaunt moat]

10.2? more like 11.2

[oak sky]

yeah its really fun to see the 4th patch with druid and priest changes

really fun

[dark token]

really cool tryan got crimson tempest nerfed by 20%

[subtle kiln]

just reroll feral

[storm belfry]

I think y’all mean 12.0. Dyslexic

[subtle kiln]

you assa peeps will have fun

[storm belfry]

I disagree. I don’t like feral

[burnt latch]

Why would they adjust or tune rogue, rank 1 m+ spec is rogue and world first had multiple rogue specs in raid

We dont need work as much

[subtle kiln]

hahahah

[storm belfry]

Sad but true

[upper crown]

[dark token]

meanwhile assa

[storm belfry]

Probs got the “go play the other spec” mindset/response

[subtle kiln]

@spice spire the channel got into your gummies again

[royal lantern]

would change my server name to "got CT nerfed by 20%" but im on phone and to stupid to know how it works there

[storm belfry]

It’s the same way

[dark token]

and just cause a spec is good doesnt mean you should avoid bugfixing or improving its tree QoL

[gaunt moat]

give me your account details i'll do it for you.

[burnt latch]

I bet the devs were PISSED when they found out they actually needed to make rogue a new tier set for 10.1 instead of sending us into aberrus with the old tier set that worked just fine

[royal lantern]

with or without the bank ID + password?

[storm belfry]

All you do is the same thing. Click the server. Click the three dots for server settings and it’s right there

[spice spire]

Good news everyone. I asked and was not heeded, so we’ve won slow mode today

[spice spire]

This was worth the slow mode, I’m ngl

[autumn frost]

Wait what's this about crimson tempest being nerfed? Is there some news I missed?

[balmy condor]

I'm making a pin soon

[spice spire]

PTR changes today

[velvet haven]

ty king

[weak horizon]

Was assassination pumping damage with CT on PTR? Seems like a weird change.

[polar cape]

Tier made you use it on ST or something

[storm belfry]

Sin will rise. Believe. Mark my words. Kekw I broke the system I can still respond by editing.

Edit: all you emote responders will see. Sin will rise. Also @gusty mirage is handsome

[sweet dawn]

Me: sees rogue changes
Also me: actually sees the rogue changes

[balmy condor]

Rogue Set Tuning
Aberrus, the Shadowed Crucible: 2-Set Bonus has been adjusted – Rupture deals an additional 40% damage as Nature. Crimson Tempest deals an additional 20% damage as Nature (was 40%).This is not really the change we wanted to see. The 2 piece was less of an issue than the 4 piece design wise, and the concern of CT in single target was still mostly a cloud on the horizon more than an actual problem. Really weird change to say the least, and only serves to hurt our already not good aoe. Hopefully we see more changes that help change us out in the coming weeks to accompany the change.

[gusty mirage]

Oh slowmode already?

[heady drum]

YOO

[warped tangle]

[violet talon]

Was quite surprised to see this as well. The 2-pc felt perfectly fine to me honestly. When I saw the list of things such as DK's getting entire reworks, I had hoped to see the Assassination 4pc get a fundamental reworking as well.

The rupture/ct nature bonus stuff just feels....odd

[gaunt moat]

To me this smells like an IC cooldown reduction.
But my hopium supplies have dwindled. and if that change didn't come alongside the tier bonus change. it might not happen.

[radiant pine]

i was thinking something like the frost dk set for assa but with poison bomb e.g. every shiv gives you a poison bomb at a certain %effectiveness

[balmy condor]

The nature bonus stuff could be a really neat route to go if they wanted to design more interplay between abilities and bridge the gap between poison and bleed conceptually, but I agree that this just ain't it

[storm belfry]

Love y’all

[spice spire]

Poison bomb is something I’ve frankly never enjoyed. That just incentivizes more of the same send shiv on cd and that feels pretty lame ngl

[royal lantern]

eh, a IC cd reduction would not even really help, because it doesnt fix any of the ground problems of assa: you lose a shitton of dmg by going ic, and the payoff is not exceptional or even good aoe

[silk bane]

Might just be a play outlaw/sub take from blizzard until they do an actual class rework in most likely 11.x! but hey atleast raids looking pretty ST next tier so sin might get some decent play!

[oak sky]

i dont really think the raid being st means sin might see more play necessarily, that just means st will be tuned tighter and any spec of any class could end up being top tier its just how it is

[radiant pine]

ye i just meant the general idea of having a more reliable/predictable source for proccing poison bomb, shiv was just the first thing that came to mind to not have it on a huge cd

[autumn frost]

I feel like they should just give us IC by default.

[brazen zodiac]

o.o

[gaunt moat]

I disagree
Look, at this point we can't expect an overhaul of the talents. can't even expect exsang change. so need to think about minor changes that could smoothen and help AoE.
if you take IC, you're already probably in a dungeon setting, not raid, so you take IC.
You can think of this bonus as an indirect buff to IC, every target takes 40% more damage from rupture.
still not "huge". but with a lower IC cooldown, it delves into the realms of being alright. (and again, the mindset of minor talent changes)

[grim tangle]

IC cringe

[wide flame]

you guys running freezing or storm infused on sennarth? storm infused seems a little like pad if the big spider is already handled

[balmy condor]

you got it right. Just run freezing all the time

[strange python]

Freezing. The difference in damage isn't big enough for adds that don't last long enough. Would only run storm for dathea, brood (on add duty. Which you shouldn't be as sin), and maaaaaybe council

[violet talon]

I would actually be ok with the 2pc changes if they did reduce IC cd to like 30 sec. And that would also help it make sense why they did the weird ct nerf alongside it.

[static glacier]

How are people dooming about a set we’ve got no sims for?

[oak sky]

it looks like and has looked like it's going to play boring and illogically

[balmy condor]

https://www.wowhead.com/news/rogue-season-2-dragonflight-tier-set-bonuses-reviewed-guide-writer-first-332039

[spice spire]

Nerfs = bad

[junior aurora]

you can doom even if there’s no sims just by the playstyle it seems to present lol

[gaunt moat]

I agree that with no other changes, it's pretty weird.
Taking away 20% from CT and giving 7% to rupture.
I'm not a math guy, but 40% seems a bit conservative.
we're already losing 20% bonus of all bleeds from losing current tier bonus.

[gray crest]

its pretty easy in this situation if you have critical thinking skills

[silk bane]

is it okay to doom about non sin tier set stuff? like this genius of an idea?

[balmy condor]

#wow-general

[brazen zodiac]

good.

[royal lantern]

we dont even know how it works, i dont think that it will just be random snares, but like, aoe roots on the ground that Spawn sometimes, and you get a root when you walk into them

[static glacier]

My point still stands, I read the article and for the most part agree. Ngl as long as we don’t have to cancel DM idc like worrying about numbers is ridiculous. It’s not like sin’s aoe now is anything to write home about. If the spec remains relatively strong for boss dmg we’re as we are now, decent. People like to live in this victim world of over exaggerating how weak their spec is / how op other’s specs are.

[strange python]

Was our set 33/33 before today or 40/40? Dev note implies it was 40/40 but my memory says it was 33/33

[oak sky]

30/30 maybe

[balmy condor]

it was 33 for both on the 2 piece, and then hotfixed to 40 and instantly nerfed to 40/20 now

[burnt star]

Im surprised they are ignoring whisp suggestion in the tier review. At best the 4p should activate when casting d.m. would give a lot more sens and would also help assa on aoe. 😦

[dark token]

Prob his analysis was too long and devs missed it

[hallow token]

Guessing it will have a brief spawn timer and a swirly. Move or get stuck. Seems more likely to affect longer cast times, so, less us and more ranged? Hunter's aimed shot, etc. But then, getting rooted isn't necessarily a big deal for ranged, unless the fight moves out of range. Again, guessing.

[pallid bough]

I wonder why they are not listing Garrote in the 2p

[storm belfry]

OMG is this real

[strange python]

A common complaint about sin over the last few years has been garrote doing much more damage than rupture, which feels off for a finisher. I take the 2set to be an attempt to shrink that gap. It makes a little bit of sense in that context. Doesn't make sense with our talent tree though

[drifting cosmos]

waking up to a nice tier set update

[spark scaffold]

Yes

[royal lantern]

in the end, its a tuning change, a weird one with all we know right now, but we dont know what they have cooking aswell to do that change, so......eh i gues? its really just "see what happens in the next few weeks" right now, and maybe it makes more sense then because we got more information

[weak plover]

Any suggested talent loadouts for PTR?

[gaunt moat]

the same ones cause nothing changed.

[weak plover]

You right. I will pretend the tier set doesn't exist.

[drifting cosmos]

stay positive, or we are stuck in slowmode forever

[strange python]

Conspiracy theory mode is I saw Realz ask a few of the TCs to DM him over recent weeks and said varying versions of "I won't be able to reply though" - tells me that they might be working on something, but it's just not ready.

[oak sky]

might just not be able to make any promises about if changes are coming because they might just not

[storm belfry]

We will be slow mode til 10.1. But by then sin will have some talent changes and a huge buff

[unreal bear]

"guys we improved the tier bonus percentages are you happy now"

[minor gate]

we heard your feedback so now rupture has been removed from the tier effect

[silk bane]

no, most likely Realz is not on rogue anymore and so all he can do is listen to their feedback and take it to the devs working on rogue.

[runic hinge]

we are getting leggo daggers soon for cata 2.0 thats why no rogue changes

[minor gate]

you'd think by now they would figure out we're not a fan of " when X ends" effects

[unreal bear]

when you're looking forward to your big damage cooldown to fall off

[kindred rapids]

The rogue df experience is having your class disc in Perma slow mode

[coarse bear]

why is vanish garrote after exsang more dps if the only imroved garrote you get in exsang in the opener?

[strange python]

You're losing only a few ticks of shrouded suff exsang garrote and getting an entirely extra duration of shrouded suff garrote.

[storm belfry]

Okay so the entangled affix isn’t as bad as I thought. But it’s still bad

[eager sorrel]

Hopefully that crimson tempest nerf is to keep it out of ST but they give us something for aoe :)

Who got us slow moded?

[brazen zodiac]

list too long

[spice spire]

Yes is the answer to part two

[sweet dawn]

Ngl I quite like the look of the new affixes, except the afflicted one becauss it's just another "Fuck healers" affix with no way of dps or tanks to help out really, except a few classes that have to talent into the dispells as nonhealer specs, gets ya thinkin before a dungeon I guess

[humble ginkgo]

thank god the devs listened about the sin tierset being overtuned 💯

[limber walrus]

Yea I wish IC was more like Priest's Shadow Crash but they would probably have to make it work like Crimson Tempest to determine an amount of combo points use

[gaunt moat]

Only new affix i'm concerned about is Incorporeal
And that depends if the add stays alive after other adds are dead or not.
cause if it's gonna fuck up our stealth, it's gonna be annoying.

[bright oak]

whispyr is tyrant confirmed

[strange python]

I think it was quake who slowmoded

[brazen zodiac]

https://tenor.com/view/cats-love-gif-24600012

[minor gate]

if 10.1 goes live with sin's current tier set design and the spec being untouched after being straight up sabotaged before the vault came out i might actually drop the spec

[eager sorrel]

Maybe they proceed to buff us 6 times to make up for December :)

[grim tangle]

quake is tyrant confirmed

[subtle kiln]

quake can’t slowmode a channel. no geeen can. lol

[balmy condor]

quake doesn't have the permissions to slow mode, feel free to send any complaints about it into my dms so I can file them properly into the "slow mode feedback" basket, here's an image of that basket now for proof

🗑️

[brazen zodiac]

https://tenor.com/view/sassy-squatch-sassy-squatch-sasquatch-gif-20154567

[slow needle]

Is Sub the only spec channel which hasn't been slow moded due to dooming this expac now?

[balmy condor]

I think so, yeah. Sub didn't have any hugely controversial changes like the FTH change or the exsanguinate nerf, so it's been staying clean enough this expac

also slow mode down to 1 min, pin updated to reflect it, thanks

[slow needle]

Give it time. Blizz will remember Sub exists at some point and make some changes that they 'love'.

[granite widget]

I think the 2p/4p feel kinda bad but they are reasonable power level no? Roughly 8%?

[balmy condor]

they're estimated to roughly about 4% each yes

[grim tangle]

DOWN WITH TYRANNY

[oak tangle]

maybe the devs are really wanting to wait to see numbers on mythic for sin to gauge what they should do. so they don't make decisions again based off of heroic?? my final cope

[edgy orbit]

I know it won't happen, but i'd like ap to have an added semi exsang effect. Something like 15% faster bleed out.

[eager sorrel]

I thought they said they wanted more impactful tier this time around, and we're fine with it... Favouring specific talent choices on the tree.

[eager sorrel]

All I want to see is CT baseline and CT rolling stacks.

[misty holly]

So new M+ affixes.... Not only did they keep Spiteful, but now we have a new affix that spawns a mob for 20 seconds that cannot be killed.

[oak sky]

it goes away when you stun it bro like obviously it sucks but theres at least clear counterplay

[hexed flicker]

Probably not the place for this discussion but I genuinely dislike the affixes that prolong combat so you can't rez, mount, drink, etc. Ruins the flow of a run.

[limber walrus]

you can use any CC on it, we are going to rake it in on those weeks

[oak sky]

(warlock and mage can polymorph or fear it) POTENTIALLY

[oak tangle]

watch it be like a identical copy of raz sparks. and you jsut have a mage with the auto target spell steal thing

[viscid spear]

[gray horizon]

is it worth holding vanish + deathmark for like 10 sec for ER or nah

[misty holly]

That is going to depend on how long the fight lasts. If you lose a cast at the end by waiting not worth it. If you don't then sure. How well can you predict exactly how long the fight will last?

[gray horizon]

jk that's a bad idea, it would postpone my next exsang

[elfin crystal]

why did our 2 set get nerfed

[rain oyster]

ccant have ass not good at anything besides single target

[gray crest]

"nerfed"

[misty holly]

Are we supposed to sim higher on patchwerk than dungeon slice now, or am I doing something wrong? DS was always higher in shadowlands despite not having a talent like IC back then. Kind of unexpected.

[thorn fjord]

@gray crest FINALLY BRO OMG

[brazen zodiac]

[gray crest]

the catalytic converter sacrifice worked

[thorn fjord]

You still have CE and I dont haha

[spice spire]

I got it in my vault

[elfin crystal]

are we supposed to be using that ring now

[spice spire]

for both of you

@elfin crystal you were always suppposed to with cowl

[low girder]

ye wdym now

[thorn fjord]

@spice spire let’s gooooooo

[spice spire]

not let's go

I've had it for two months

took 421 boots tho

so side w

[storm belfry]

YES

[echo heath]

[elfin crystal]

I meant the onyx Annulet

[spice spire]

Oh yeah pins

[storm forum]

did i miss the dooming?

edit: nvm, ptr stuff, nothing to doom here

[near valley]

Coming in to a slowmode is always a good sign of things

[drifting cosmos]

slowmode almost over

get ready to full send complaints , jks, we are staying positive and have faith on dev

[spice spire]

No

[near valley]

[restive spire]

for live logging you dont need to /combatlog if raiderio automatically logs fights right? warcraft logs will just read raiderio's logs

[gusty mirage]

correct, you can just use the logs the r.io client auto logs for you

[restive spire]

thank you :)

[gusty mirage]

[brazen zodiac]

💃

[unreal bear]

part of the new assassination rotation is posting in here on cd, lines up nicer than exsang

[spice spire]

True

That’s probably the best post since slow mode happened

[brazen zodiac]

would we cast this before or after deathmark ?

[silk bane]

oh before for sure, you'll be exsanging your deathmark for that sweet sweet 4 pce so dont think you have enough time for the meming

[balmy condor]

[shut owl]

okay but do I doom in chat before or after exsang?

[lucid birch]

:3

[balmy condor]

please keep :3 in #1080572530554835072 thank you

[silk bane]

Is it safe to meme again Mr whispyr?

[balmy condor]

as long as it doesn't devolve into shitpost gigadooming you can do whatever you'd like

[subtle tundra]

Morning

[atomic rune]

When is blizzard just going to make Poison Bomb our AoE spender man …

I’m so tired of Tempest I hate it so much

[oak sky]

[thorn fjord]

Thanks dad

YO IM HYPED

[strange python]

Holding third exsang for potion on sennarth always so easy to forget rip

Err potion for exsang

[steel ridge]

Yay 5% more rupture damage!

[strange python]

I'm so hyped to lose out on rankings tomorrow to people who had arcane gem last Wednesday

Also how the fuck is icon outsimming grief

[steel ridge]

Raz prison

[strange python]

Raz is such a boring fight

[steel ridge]

Is it?

[strange python]

I hated progging it

We didn't even take that long. 185 I think?

[steel ridge]

I think its a good fight

[strange python]

I really hate intermissions

As a concept

[steel ridge]

yeah those are nasty

[strange python]

Raz is loaded up with them

[balmy condor]

annulet replacing signet makes you lose a lot of crit

[strange python]

Oh duh. I prob could've figured that out

Not like I'd drop grief tho, a single death pushes it ahead. Was just shocked to see it spike this week

[weak horizon]

Bruh my top gear says annulet + signet instead of diurna ring

Crazy times we live in

[ebon notch]

Diurna ring isn't that amazing tbh

Cos ring was on par with it for the most part

[balmy condor]

??????????????

421 cos ring doesn't even come close to a 421 diurna

what

[ebon notch]

Diurna or eranog

[balmy condor]

the ring called diurna that drops from eranog

[ebon notch]

I was talking about the ring that dropped from diurna

[balmy condor]

oh

yeah that thing is dogshit

fuck that

[ebon notch]

The ring that dropped from eranog is giga bis

[balmy condor]

naming a ring after a raid boss and making it drop from a different boss

is the most troll thing

[jade abyss]

[fast phoenix]

It’s her wedding band from eranog…

[grim jay]

For*

Hey, cant say we aint getting into patchnotes anymore

[near valley]

Well actually....it's called Ring of Diurna's **Chosen ** and since Eranog is kind of her son , it makes sense

[gusty mirage]

she married her son?

[pastel onyx]

[weak sierra]

It's like the watch in pulp fiction. The last thing she has of his dad, to give to him

[misty kernel]

assa is rank 1 at raid logs (overall damage) it is a must to nerf the tier-set

[steel ridge]

huh did i miss something

[grim jay]

Probably the tier set nerf on ptr

[steel ridge]

well well

the fear of CT in ST was too much i guess

still a hot mess

the 2p is somewhat ok but the 4p is so weird

[winged quail]

At best the 4 piece is boring passive damage after CDs and at worst it's gonna desync CDs and make it a pain to play

10/10

[steel ridge]

its just weird to backload damage

[grim jay]

How would it desync cds

Tho

[raven knoll]

I feel like the 4 piece is kinda bad in AOE too.

[grim jay]

Blizz flattening damageprofiles like its nothing

[steel ridge]

huh, the 4pc is pretty good or AoE

[frozen jasper]

Is eranog ring on hc paired with flaring bis too? Or just myth Ring ?

[winged quail]

Need flaring to proc the ring

Oh I'm dumb ignore me

[strange python]

The 4pc is confounding. The 2pc is theoretically fine as long as it's tuned to not make CT in ST

[raven knoll]

I feel like after deathmark ends the pull is almost over. Most tanks dont chainpull so you are wasting the buff going from one pack to another.

[strange python]

I'm hopeful for a 4pc rework but it feels late in the cycle for a set to be reworked.

[steel ridge]

play higher keys if your pulls dont last longer than 16 seconds

[winged quail]

They reworked other sets on PTR but doubtful they do anymore reworks

[strange python]

That's my thinking

[steel ridge]

you will just build up some stufff for 16 seconds while deathmark runs out and then you can slam IC, Rupture, Vanish Garrote and blast the fuck out of the remaining pack xD

[strange python]

The patch will hit love right after the TW

So 6ish weeks? Seems doubtful.

[raven knoll]

so you just afk for 16 sec?

[grim jay]

The thing that makes it unlikely for me is that other specs have the same flattening effect. Like arcane

[steel ridge]

you can just build up your normal rotation, 3garrote, ruptures, CT, Deathmark and then wait.

and pray

[strange python]

Does Halls trinket keep exsang as inflated?

[steel ridge]

ngl the 4pc should be active while dm is still running, tho

the backload is just toxic

[raven knoll]

How long does puzzle box last? 😄 Does it even overlap with the 4p?

[winged quail]

Anyone know if new M+/raid trinkets come close to Puzzlebox next tier?

[grim jay]

That would turn into top tier burst

[grim jay]

You wont have any higher ilvl puzzlebox

So would surprise me if not

[steel ridge]

imagine having top tier burst as a spec designed around burst

the world would end

[grim jay]

Cant have that

Flat profiles we like

[winged quail]

Yeah I just mean do any of the new trinkets have such a massive impact on our DPS compared to how big Puzzlebox was for us this season

Burst? That takes skill sorry bud no fun allowed

[grim jay]

From what I've heard raid trinkets are bonkers. Irideus might aswell be a new puzzlebox too

[winged quail]

Nice not so bad

[strange python]

The hope for 4set to apply on DM activate is unlikely. It would require being brought down to 20% or even lower to not be a gigantic outlier

More likely to see a complete rework. Which is unlikely.

[grim jay]

I kinda wouldve liked a bonus that adds CDR to DM

[balmy condor]

no more cdr please

[grim jay]

Dunno why you hate on cdr

[oak tangle]

this aint the sub channel XD

[winged quail]

Planning CD's on Rasz prog was great fun would have been aids with variable CDR

[grim jay]

I mean you can still roughly plan it out and who knows if and what timings there might be next tier

Maybe timings that are a pain without cdr

[hollow dirge]

cdr just literally makes you press cd the second it's up , coz fomo, not really a fun gameplay

[grim jay]

Ah so

You had many occurences of delaying your DM this tier?

[balmy condor]

yes actually

[hollow dirge]

not many, but had some, and that some is already arguement enough

[balmy condor]

every single pulls

that I've ever done

on assassination

this entire expansion

[oak tangle]

XD

[grim jay]

Dunno, I didnt actually

[hollow dirge]

to each their own, but cdr is not exactly bringing anything to the table, but annoyance whenever you have downtime

[balmy condor]

you don't hold dm for vanish?

[oak tangle]

my dm waits about 10s before i press it

[balmy condor]

you don't hold box/exsang for dm?

everything is centered around dm

[grim jay]

Dunno, vanish pretty synced with maybe a few sec delay once, no ?
And delaying box/exs for DM is kinda a reason for cdr bcs you would most likely hold them for less time

But then you would most likely hold vanish long, ye I see that

[raven knoll]

just make the CDR for vanish too

[balmy condor]

yeah and just make the cdr on exsang as well

[night delta]

Or, you would waste cdr on an already up DM to wait for those to come back either way

[balmy condor]

and shiv

[raven knoll]

nah delete exsang

[strange python]

Do it.

[balmy condor]

could call it like

restless assassin

or something

[oak tangle]

every time a bleed ticks, reduce cd by 1 second

[balmy condor]

idk

CDR dogshit mechanic

everything just slam on cooldown

[strange python]

Exsang CD is reduced by the haste value you have at the time of casting exsang.

[balmy condor]

press the shiny button

[winged quail]

Hey don't forget Kingsbane

[balmy condor]

turn brain off and slam

fucking stupid

[grim jay]

Would kinda fit well, arent we restless anyways ?
Aint no rest for the wicked

[night delta]

I mean, there's design space for it... just please not on sin

[hollow dirge]

there's design space for it everywhere, but it will never feel good 😄

[balmy condor]

according to blizzard the design space for cdr is every spec in the game

[misty kernel]

kingsbane = Best talent where they put it

[night delta]

It's properly done with frost mage IV for example

[strange python]

Zerocool is back?

[night delta]

it's cohesive and does something for the spec gameplay and skill-wise

but otherwise yeah, don't like it on sin

[hollow dirge]

if there are specs that are supposed to have it, it's ranged, since they can do their rotation mostly even when doing errands. melee with cdr being an errand boy /alt+f4. but no matter what, making any downtime super annoying means you have a couple of dead idiots that tried to minmax cdr for the logs on each pull 😄

[night delta]

Oh, I just found a new obnoxious thing about our 4p : With the way our opener works, barely half of the 4p bonus will be squeezed into BL

[oak tangle]

I need your opinion on this, would having / not having PI explain this difference for openers?

[balmy condor]

yes

[strange python]

PI is a gigantic boost to exsang.

[oak tangle]

trying to figure out how i lost 10k dps on terros

[strange python]

Sin is secretly an incredibly strong Pi receiver

It gives us around 7-8% which I believe is second or third value for all specs

That should equate to ~5-7k DPS, but add in some general RNG and you can hit a 10k gap

Generally, you should compare your log to others who didn't get PI

[oak tangle]

the other change is having the new ring and icon instead of grief

i am just sad cause i lost to an outlaw rogue with same ilvl

[strange python]

Icon only simmed +100 for me over grief. That's very minor. And one death makes grief better

[night delta]

With this new information I'll get to flex my RL privilege to request one

[strange python]

Oh PI isn't giving outlaw 10k

[strange python]

Who are they giving it to?

[night delta]

Last time I checked, fire mages

both of them

[strange python]

Our healer gives it to mage. Our spriest is bribeable

[night delta]

for finger-licking good combust

[strange python]

I'm pretty sure it's better for sin than fire but could be wrong

[oak tangle]

also i imagine a 3:30 kill time is attrocious for sin

[strange python]

My recollection was it being bigger for arcane than fire

[strange python]

Eh. You want to hold your second DM and vanish for exsang in this scenario

[night delta]

got a source for the PI rankings per spec ?

[strange python]

Outlaw got massive benefit from the ring tho

[night delta]

Don't wanna seem unfair if I go and make changes

[strange python]

Oxi ran them awhile ago. Your best bet is to go sim PI manually. Idk the string, ask fuu or whispyr

[oak tangle]

just feelsbadman having a parse from start of the month at 82k drop to 70k today

[strange python]

The "pi sheet" everyone uses is very wrong

[night delta]

ah there's not an up to date neat little spreadsheet available ?

[strange python]

There is, but it's very very wrong

[oak tangle]

like i've been playing sub alot but i don't think im that washed up

[strange python]

I think an enhance shaman writes the PI sheet once at the start of each patch and then stops updating it

[night delta]

oof

[strange python]

Which, I believe, utilized a pre-exsang sin build

[oak tangle]

bloodmallet not considered reliable?

[balmy condor]

it is

[strange python]

For PI?

[balmy condor]

ye

[strange python]

Didn't know it had pi

[oak tangle]

https://bloodmallet.com/chart/power_infusion

[strange python]

Interesting. I simmed most of our raid and it was outperforming for me compared to the hunters

Tbh, if you're on farm, it's cringe to Pi the same people every week.

[night delta]

hm, our demo switched from affli to demo last week, and we got an unholy dk recruited also

[strange python]

Switch it up and let people have fun parsing. Nothing else to do in farm

[night delta]

I guess PI would go to them

[strange python]

If you're on prog, gl.

[grim jay]

Always thought it is not because it states no apl support for rogues

[night delta]

y, we're progging Sennarth atm

9% last run

we got it this week 🙂

[strange python]

Yeah you gonna have a hard time justifying PI on you then

[balmy condor]

it doesn't need apl support on rogues

it just works out of the box

the timings don't work on things like unholy because they need to line it up

but the fallback is fine

[grim jay]

Alright I see

[strange python]

If your priests slams PI on you every 2 mins it will naturally line up with the things it matters with

Only way PI is "wasted" on rogue is entirely desynced from CDs, or going on you after exsang is locked in

But given rupture and garrote pandemic forcing, your sim should be getting PI at roughly 2 min intervals, right before your CDs apply

[night delta]

fun effect of our UHDK is that on sennarth 1st spider he represents about 60% of the damage done to the spider add

he keeps complaining "no one does damage to the spider yo"

[strange python]

Surprised he's not playing frost

From an outsiders perspective frost seems purely better atm

Then again we're in sin channel when sub exists

[royal lantern]

i mean, yeha

if you have a arms warrior, they can almost solo all big spiders

[night delta]

our philosophy is "play what you feel good playing, and try to optimize that"

no meta chasing around our parts

[royal lantern]

based af

[grim jay]

True

[strange python]

Dooming aside, spec balance is better than it's been in awhile

[grim jay]

But telling people something different is better if they suck at the worse spec is fine

[strange python]

None of the specs are gonna hold you back

[night delta]

yeah thankfully

[grim jay]

WW on terros if you mainly have magic

[night delta]

oh no worries our UHDK does not suck ^^

[royal lantern]

problem: if somone is really bad, they mess it up anyway

[night delta]

Terros is honestly a big pushover once you outgear it

last phase we dump our spikes and then ask tanks to leave them be

cuz we know it goes down before enrage

[grim jay]

There are some cases where that doesnt apply. Like telling a surv to go bm

[royal lantern]

or a rogue to go DF sub?

[potent lintel]

Does flame licked stone gain buff from Flaring cowl?

I mean seal of diurana chosen

[balmy condor]

it does, yes

but cowl already maxes out the procs on the ring

so it doesn't add any more

[potent lintel]

So then would it make sense to use flamed lick stone as one of your gems if you have the ring

oh i see

[balmy condor]

if it were, it would be recommended :P

[night delta]

I saw that the iron stone (AA buff) was implemented, I take it that since it's not recommended it's pretty meh ?

[grim jay]

I've actually seen so many cases by now where people just cant manage for whatever reason

[balmy condor]

correct

[night delta]

shame, I had hope for this one

oh well, dmg procs it is then

[oak tangle]

i wish WCL had a search feature like poe ninja

[balmy condor]

twilight + blood just crushed

[balmy condor]

in what regard

[oak tangle]

to filter by gear

ilvl not cutting it, when they have 421-424 daggers and seal of diurnas

[balmy condor]

oh

[oak tangle]

i know it's a niche use case, but yeah, would be useful for hunters that dont have bow etc

[slow tulip]

hi, can i ask if someone have a CC/interrupt macro for the sparks on Raz mythic ?

[grim jay]

Its not like you cant parse just fine like 90-ish +

[balmy condor]

/targetenemy
/focus
/tar player
/tar focus
/tar boss1
/targetlasttarget
/cast [harm,nodead] Kick
/tar boss1 

[royal lantern]

imagine have a ilvl 421 weapon

weirdos

[grim jay]

I'm still in the 418 dagger gang with hc seal

[slow tulip]

thx a lot, good sir

[oak tangle]

right, but if im trying to compare to see how certain things line up, it's rough to see what an actual analogue is minus the clear bumps that certain specific items can give

[royal lantern]

418 dagger gang and no council trinket for sub, normal CCT there

what is this "loot" people talk about

[grim jay]

I hope to finally get M cct this vault

Did you open already ? 😁

[oak tangle]

i've never gotta a seal on any difficulty, meanwhile my friend had a heroic one, dropped a mythic one, won it and then sold it for 500k

[royal lantern]

starting wow now

need a vault blessing whisp

[balmy condor]

only cloaks

[royal lantern]

meanie

[grim jay]

GL brother. You officially have my blessing, see for yourself how much its worth!

[royal lantern]

MYTHIC CCT

[grim jay]

See

[rocky ruin]

Does some did some raid testing as assa or were everyone just sub for testing

[raven merlin]

I have a question for 10.1 2p Set: Does the naturebleed Dmg scale with mastery like 2times? cause its bleed and nature dmg?

[oak tangle]

it's ok i took the cloak hit for you

[oak tangle]

2 pc is not nature damage in the way that our mastery scales it

[grim jay]

Someone in my guild had back to back socketed M ring

[balmy condor]

our mastery doesn't buff nature damage, it buffs bleeds and poisons specifically

"poisons" is a weird term in this case

cause it buffs envenom

but that's an outlier mostly

the same way it doesn't buff vicious venoms, it doesn't buff the tier set

[grim jay]

But you strike them with venom! The strike just deals no dmg and its all venom

[raven merlin]

but mastery scale the 2p "nature"bleed?

[balmy condor]

no

like I just explained

mastery does not apply to random nature hits

the nature hit from the 2 piece

is not a bleed

it's added nature damage

[raven merlin]

Ahh okey

thats dogsh*t

[grim jay]

[balmy condor]

it doesn't make a difference

[hollow dirge]

considering it's just percentage certain dmg, wouldn't it anyway not scale

[grim jay]

Doesnt scale with mastery = dogshit

[royal lantern]

the rule is: 99% of the time, when a mastery says "you do X more dmg of a specific kind" it means "you do more dmg with YOUR OWN ABILITYS that do this dmg, and nothing else"

[grim jay]

It scales as in rupture scales and its based on rupture

Just doesnt double dip

[balmy condor]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/670758470848610312/1057003203742412800/skate.gif

[hollow dirge]

this is obvious, I'm just saying, even if it was a proper dmg type, mastery would not do anything to it, as it's literally a percentage of rupture dmg.

[grim jay]

Holy, that one is grand

[hollow dirge]

best one yet

[royal lantern]

but your brain isnt

[grim jay]

You got an upgrade because of my blessing and now you are unfilial a few moments later

[hollow dirge]

damn golden cow

[royal lantern]

sorry

[grim jay]

It's okey, life is unfair

Just like our boomi getting the 421 hands last raid which was my last 421 Set piece

Just because he rolled BiS for it bcs of stats, while he had 418 crafted with the same

And I had to roll ilvl bcs I have 415 hands

[raven merlin]

y obviously, mb

[near valley]

I'm stealing this masterpiece

[strange python]

Sometimes I wish I understood emoji speak

[oak sky]

[near valley]

[pastel onyx]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-meme-xd-haha-cute-bb-cat-gif-26454424

[frozen jasper]

Can u put a normal gem socket on the Onyx Ring?

[balmy condor]

no

[frozen jasper]

Ty

[tawny bloom]

did they mention an actual reason on why CT now only gets 20% damage as nature? It literally just cucks us further in aoe. I mean on the bright side: we most likely wont play it in ST

[grim jay]

They nerfed it because it was too broken with the other changes they planned for us

[calm bison]

Any time now…

[sick aspen]

dw, it's only the .1 patch, means we're close to 10.2 which is where the real changes happen

[tawny bloom]

surely exsan change tmrw

[calm bison]

Surely

[sick aspen]

at the top of their list

[calm bison]

Followed by making kingsbane available again

[sick aspen]

whispyr's gonna petition to move it to the sbs node

[tawny bloom]

having it as an option with dtb kinda sucks

[calm bison]

The most probable outcome is them making a new capstone that makes fok give 1 more cp and remove dtb and kingsbane

Seems more in line

[grim jay]

We discussed before that KB + DTB would be too strong so they would need to limit the interaction in one way or another and it most likely would still be too strong

[tawny bloom]

have zoldyck as 2pt with 30 and 45 and get a choice node of sepsis and sdb where twist the knife is.

[spice spire]

Mfs really hating at 7 in the morning

[grim jay]

Its 2 pm here bro

[sick aspen]

it's 8pm, perfect time for hating

[calm bison]

1pm…

[spice spire]

Fake times sorry

[grim jay]

In reality there is no night and day. The only circle is the circle of hate, no sun. Bright ideas let the day shine and clouds of hatred darken the night

[pastel onyx]

amen

[spice spire]

Counterpoint:

https://tenor.com/view/nice-opinion-ur-stupid-nice-opinion-too-bad-ur-stupid-donkey-kong-dont-care-didnt-ask-gif-21852707

[pastel onyx]

https://tenor.com/view/cats-meow-yawn-endless-gif-15833307

[grim jay]

https://tenor.com/view/emotional-damage-gif-hurt-feelings-gif-24558392

[uncut echo]

What if we stopped trying to theorycraft bongcloud takes on the spec rn

[storm belfry]

Might be impossible for some

[grim jay]

Nothing wrong with tossing in some ideas in general tho

[spice spire]

No

[balmy condor]

Guys what if fok generated cp like shuriken storm

[uncut echo]

Nah, it's all anyone does though, and it just pisses people off bc they think their idea is better

[balmy condor]

Isn’t that such a cool and novel idea

[spice spire]

@balmy condor wanna test the bongcloud opener for 10.1?

[uncut echo]

This way grandpa

[grim jay]

No, I want echoing blades

[uncut echo]

You don't want echoing blades

You want fok to generate 3 cp if it hits more than 1 target, + seal fate

There i go bongclouding

[spice spire]

[balmy condor]

I’m sure no one has ever suggested fok generate cp like shuriken storm and I promise you it’s good because I didn’t think it through for more than 3 seconds and copy pasting other specs mechanics is the best I can come up for any idea that’s why I work a dead end job with no hopes of promotion and my parents are disappointed in me. I don’t even like my job it’s just enough money for me to get by, but I never wanted this, it doesn’t make me happy. So instead I sit in ravenholdt and make these bold suggestions in a desperate plea with god to grant me any semblance of happiness in my life, if only for a fleeting moment where I have the ignorance to believe I’m making a difference in this pathetic world I’ve jailed myself in

[uncut echo]

Honey, are you ok

[balmy condor]

Buff kingsbane

[uncut echo]

He's snapped boys

[spice spire]

Homie, he’s been snapped

[uncut echo]

Bongclouding ideas breaks our boy in Orange

[raven knoll]

FoK shouldn't generete cp like shuriken storm. FoK and shuriken storm should be a choice node in general tree

[uncut echo]

Yeh but I was at least able to keep him sane last night

[uncut echo]

??????

In what reality is that a good idea

[raven knoll]

I don't know I just said something

[uncut echo]

Don't do that

[balmy condor]

I have a copypasta for you, hot off the presses

[uncut echo]

I’m sure no one has ever suggested fok generate cp like shuriken storm and I promise you it’s good because I didn’t think it through for more than 3 seconds and copy pasting other specs mechanics is the best I can come up for any idea that’s why I work a dead end job with no hopes of promotion and my parents are disappointed in me. I don’t even like my job it’s just enough money for me to get by, but I never wanted this, it doesn’t make me happy. So instead I sit in ravenholdt and make these bold suggestions in a desperate plea with god to grant me any semblance of happiness in my life, if only for a fleeting moment where I have the ignorance to believe I’m making a difference in this pathetic world I’ve jailed myself in

[spice spire]

Oh god

Mf gonna reintroduce slow mode

[uncut echo]

As he should

[royal lantern]

are the voices back?

[spice spire]

Sorry, I meant I’m gonna reintroduce slow mode

[uncut echo]

As you should

[royal lantern]

i woke up to this

[uncut echo]

I'm so sorry darling

[balmy condor]

Slow mode is a metaphor for Assassination as a spec. When it’s on, there’s functional debates, positive conversations, well thought out ideas. The channel works. But then people complain “it’s too slow, I wanna talk more, the channel is energy starved”.

So then you take the slow mode off and let the channel go faster, and what do you get? A shitshow, a mess. A flood of terrible ideas and dooming, nothing but negativity.

Nerf energy regen

[spice spire]

Slow mode is a metaphor for Assassination as a spec. When it’s on, there’s functional debates, positive conversations, well thought out ideas. The channel works. But then people complain “it’s too slow, I wanna talk more, the channel is energy starved”.

So then you take the slow mode off and let the channel go faster, and what do you get? A shitshow, a mess. A flood of terrible ideas and dooming, nothing but negativity.

Nerf energy regen

[uncut echo]

I was typing to you on stream during brood during slow moments :)

[balmy condor]

I was maintaining 100% envenom uptime for 7 minutes straight during brood prog :)

[uncut echo]

:)

[spice spire]

Explains the damage taken 🤨

[uncut echo]

I DIDN'T PEEL OFF ADDS WHEN OMNI SAID TO

I was so good

[uncut echo]

I feinted every staff step down

[balmy condor]

Omni saying “everyone swap to adds, even Ahri”

[spice spire]

17% mitigated

[balmy condor]

Me sitting there knowing damn well that’s a fucking joke of a call

[spice spire]

Mf really testing my log watching skills

🤨

[uncut echo]

?????

I hit feint every time beams made it to eggs

And every tank soak idk

[royal lantern]

thats a hard moment

are you doing it and follow?

do you not do it because its objectively the better call?

[uncut echo]

I was nowhere near in danger of dying

[uncut echo]

I objectively didn't

Bc is was a bad call

[balmy condor]

Ahri was in on brood for her trial and I legit whispered her “don’t do it”

[uncut echo]

[royal lantern]

ahri

[uncut echo]

Hi!

[royal lantern]

whisp doesnt want you in his raidteam

thats why he said that

[spice spire]

Cope

[royal lantern]

[uncut echo]

Idk if he has a choice

[spice spire]

Also tyran why the bully man.
Be happy for her

Just bully on unfounded random shit

Like 17% mitigated

[balmy condor]

Okayyyyy second rogue chill

[spice spire]

Whoah buddy

[uncut echo]

May I ethically dm leak

[spice spire]

I saw those details names dog

[balmy condor]

No

[spice spire]

You ain’t the top here

[uncut echo]

V well I asked

[balmy condor]

I aint the top anywhere

[spice spire]

That’s true

[uncut echo]

Top in my heart sweetie

[balmy condor]

You think gaby would let me top?

Hell nah

[spice spire]

[balmy condor]

I know better than to fight a Mexican woman

[uncut echo]

Idk most girls get a lil sub every now and again

[spice spire]

After her 16 hour day especially

[royal lantern]

@spice spire see? channel got chill again

just had to bring in the horny

[uncut echo]

It's not hard. Just don't don't talk about the spec unless someone has a genuine question.

:)

[spice spire]

No horny posting on main

[balmy condor]

She wanted my help making a new schedule so she could get more sleep, and then gave me a 14 hour school+work day and said “school and work aren’t negotiable though”

The fuck am I supposed to do

[uncut echo]

Drug her

[spice spire]

Mf just go sleep ig

[spice spire]

[uncut echo]

WITH SLEEPING PILLS

TO SLEEP

:(

[spice spire]

Legit the solution is to like.
Do that, come home and sleep

[uncut echo]

Ye

[spice spire]

That’s the option

I’ve consigned myself to 4 hours for a bit

[uncut echo]

That's p much it ye

[balmy condor]

Can’t do that, comes home eats dinner for an hour, showers for an hour, studies for 3

Now it’s 19 hours and we ran out of hours

Pog

[uncut echo]

Broheim

[spice spire]

Brother

Showering for an hour

[uncut echo]

That's inhuman

[spice spire]

Wyd

[uncut echo]

https://tenor.com/view/oh-these-telepurte-gif-22718714

[balmy condor]

She says “I’m in shower I’ll call after”

[uncut echo]

HAHAHAH

[balmy condor]

And will be gone for 90 minutes

[uncut echo]

When I'm in the shower I just sing v loud

[spice spire]

Take shorter showers

And Idk if she eats while at work/school

But maybe end the night on a protein shake or something

Saved two hours

Yw

If she doesn’t, she’s gotta eat actual food when home

[uncut echo]

Take shorter, colder showers. No avacado toast. Coffee? What're you doing. You got to get your shit together.

[spice spire]

Wake up at 3 am daily

Amen

[uncut echo]

Same on god

[balmy condor]

And then she wonders why she has no friends and no social life

Banger

[uncut echo]

I went to bed at 1 this morning after talking with Omni

Woke up at 4

[balmy condor]

Also she’s traveling for work for a week

[spice spire]

Poor gab 😦

[uncut echo]

What she doing for work rn?

I hope she's not burning herself out. :/

[balmy condor]

She’s a nanny for a crazy rich family

[uncut echo]

That's not a bad gig ig?

[spice spire]

She has to be a special lady to put up with your dog ass and all the dudes that hit on u

[balmy condor]

Has to deal with 2 kids

And housework

It’s wild though

[marble hemlock]

2 kids vs 1 whispyrs. Which one is more work?

[balmy condor]

They’re like “we’re going to Hawaii you’re coming with”

And she goes oh okay then

[spice spire]

Lil bro

That’s not outta town

That’s a vacation

[uncut echo]

LMAO

[spice spire]

That she has to work on, I’m sure

[royal lantern]

you can just put whisp in front of a pc with some simulations, and he is entertained for 5hours

[balmy condor]

Yeh, and gets overtime

[spice spire]

Mf gets to claim everything she does on her taxes next year as a work expensive

[balmy condor]

These people have enough money to bring the childcare with them on vacation and pay a 80 hour work week

[spice spire]

Dog upper middle be going crazy

[balmy condor]

Ain’t even upper middle

[uncut echo]

That's

[royal lantern]

thats not upper middle

[uncut echo]

Above upper middle

[balmy condor]

They have a household income in the 7 figures

[spice spire]

Nah homie

[uncut echo]

It's not 1%

[spice spire]

That’s upper middle.
Rich is the Bs

[balmy condor]

[uncut echo]

Okay in this distorted capitalistic hellscape

U right

[grim jay]

America is weird anyways

[uncut echo]

BUT

[spice spire]

Ye

Worldwide

Nah

They’re not middle at all

But this is America

[uncut echo]

I need to step on some throats for my milli

[spice spire]

I volunteer as tribute.
At least I wouldn’t have to see disaster first hand anymore

[balmy condor]

My gf is making 70k a year brubbi

[spice spire]

You live in sf yeah?

[grim jay]

Would be rich in germany

[balmy condor]

Below poverty line ye

[spice spire]

Yeah yeah

Fuck man

If that family is in sf

They may just be middle class

Unlucky

[balmy condor]

They decided to renovate

And by renovate I mean add an entire second story to their house

These people wildin

[spice spire]

Dog the family that Val pet sits for wanted a lake cabin, and bought a 15 br mansion on the lake

[balmy condor]

[spice spire]

People are wild man

[grim jay]

Its crazy how far apart monetary value is even inbetween big countries

[spice spire]

I s2g I mald at it

[balmy condor]

It’s within states even

[spice spire]

Within cities brubby

[balmy condor]

If you live in San Francisco, 112k a year is the poverty line

3 hour drive south you get halfway to San diego it’s a nowhere land, 30k a year and your chillaxing on the beach

[spice spire]

We’re looking at moving to Maine for the same reason

[grim jay]

Dunno, I'm living in a city with a renowned university close to cologne and you are considered upper class if you are at like 55k-ish + a year

[spice spire]

I live in bfe and circa 100k ain’t shit

[balmy condor]

Lobster boy

[spice spire]

Bruh it’s like dirt cheap

[uncut echo]

How can you look at people suffering

And be like

I NEED 15 BRS

[spice spire]

Charged to his company

As a place he takes investors

[uncut echo]

I'm goofchillin in my $235k home

[spice spire]

I mean

This is Georgia

I think the house is only like 1.2

[balmy condor]

No this is Patrick

[spice spire]

Which is a ton, but a 15br you expect more of a cost etc etc

[balmy condor]

I think my house just hit 3 last year

[spice spire]

3m?

[balmy condor]

Ya

[spice spire]

That’s what I’m saying man

[grim jay]

230m² + 70 m² basement + small attic with 980m² property are like 600k here

[balmy condor]

Can’t wait for my dad to pay it off and then promptly die so I can move to the middle of Canada and live off of the ice fishing haul

[spice spire]

Bless up at both

[spice spire]

Something something leach

[uncut echo]

Imagine rich parents

[balmy condor]

[normal mist]

Imagine parents

[wind dune]

It's chill up here I'm surrounded by lakes and resorts everywhere I go bum fuck nowhere in Canada

[uncut echo]

I think I inherit like $250k

[wind dune]

Can get to -50 c though in winter 🙂

[uncut echo]

From rich grandparents

[spice spire]

[normal mist]

I inherited -155k from debts

[spice spire]

Real

Zac in assassination

[balmy condor]

That’s fine, just means more cuddles from my girlfriend, her body temperature regularly drops below absolute zero

[unreal bear]

rogue gf rarer drop than bow from raz

[normal mist]

Raz bow more useful

[subtle tundra]

Aaaaaa I want a job 😤

[spice spire]

Jealous. Val is a space heater when she sleeps, and so am I.
So it’s 65 in the house and I still wake up sweating

[balmy condor]

When she comes over in the summer we can turn off the air conditioning, her mere presence alone doubles as a 3000 watt industrial liquid nitrogen chiller

[uncut echo]

That's her inner demon

[normal mist]

You mean gf

[unreal bear]

also buying a house is a fucking nightmare man

we're going through it right now, there's like 1/5th of the normal inventory out there and it all sucks

[grim jay]

Kinda jealous

[uncut echo]

Just went thru it last year, feel that king

[uncut echo]

You won't be in winter

[spice spire]

No I am

[unreal bear]

"here's a 1200 sqft house that definitely doesnt have black mold 😉 that'll be 350k please"

[spice spire]

Mfs really a space heater

[balmy condor]

You ever have to stop holding hands because her hands are too cold and it starts to hurt?

[spice spire]

No inspection allowed

[grim jay]

I'm never cold, even in winter

[uncut echo]

Girls be one of two ways

Hotter than molten hellfire or colder than the vacuum of space

[subtle tundra]

Yall got gfs meanwhile I can't even go fishing

[unreal bear]

then you get overbid by some dickhead for 20% over in cash

they will go bankrupt inshallah

[normal mist]

Sometimes it's a debuff dw xDD

[spice spire]

I mean I get cold, but I sleep with a sheet only cuz I’m gonna become the human torch

[balmy condor]

You don’t have water in Romania don’t act like you know how to fish

[uncut echo]

My diceroll was definitely hot in the summer cold in the winter :(

[grim jay]

I usually free my property from snow wearing a t-shirt

[spice spire]

True

You know what it’s like living in 65 24/7

[uncut echo]

That's how I was before the fire nation attacked

[unreal bear]

or both. my ex was hot, but her heart... 🥶

[spice spire]

It’s jarring to weather in the summer

[subtle tundra]

Oi we have drinkable water unlike you Americano

[uncut echo]

Oof

[balmy condor]

Hey that’s only some cities and we don’t talk about them anymore because it’s fatigued us and the government stopped caring

So what if my tap water is flammable

[unreal bear]

dude tap water calcifies your pineal gland bro take a hit this strain is different i promise

[wind dune]

Lmao it' -11.2 oil temp right now converted from syrup land and this is the more mild side. I'm supposed to be working on highways in a month if the frost leaves the ground quick enough lol

[grim jay]

Thats why you play sin, you were accustomed to poison all along

[unreal bear]

poisons dont do enough damage, cant build up resistance

[spice spire]

He’s a sub OTP tho

[balmy condor]

California tap water has rocket fuel in it

[grim jay]

Nah didnt you see his rupture dealing less dmg ?

[spice spire]

He just got confused on spec icons this tier

Trust

[grim jay]

Maybe you should get rich building an engine that works with your tapwater

🤑

Cant say there are no bright ideas in here

[thorn fjord]

Morning sinners

[uncut echo]

No shot you called Whispyr a sub otp

[storm belfry]

Gm cuz

[spice spire]

You don’t know him like I do (intimately)

GM mister dieslow

Hope you’ve a good day king

[uncut echo]

I just bullied him for trying to prank me for beating me when he has a 424 grieftorch

[spice spire]

I bullied him for sending me feet pics, we’re not the same

[uncut echo]

I think I have my old drive of feet content pre E

[spice spire]

Please no

I actually hate feet

[uncut echo]

Not for you

[spice spire]

Bless

[uncut echo]

You and I are strictly platonic business

Except for our delightful marriage pact

[spice spire]

God bless

Yeah, feet is a kink I’ll never understand

[uncut echo]

That's fine, we all have something

I like fat chicks, whispyr likes feet

We're all perfect in our own perverted ways

[grim jay]

Whats pre E

[uncut echo]

I'm trans :)

E for Estrogen

[spice spire]

I have a monogamy kink. I’m super perverted 🙂

[uncut echo]

Holding hands you fucking degenerate?

[spice spire]

Pre marriage?

[thorn fjord]

LOL

[grim jay]

Ah alright, didnt know what E stands for

[spice spire]

I’m not going for hell

[thorn fjord]

Well you are a sinner

[spice spire]

Nah

I’m a man of god

[thorn fjord]

You know how these kids get when they hold hands

[spice spire]

I’ve never so much as seen Val’s ankles

[thorn fjord]

You never saw walk hard?

[spice spire]

And hands are just the devil’s feet

[uncut echo]

My super power is looking like a woman and having the stankiest ara ara in existence

[spice spire]

So like

Nah

[thorn fjord]

Tf is ara ara lmaooo

[uncut echo]

Anime mommy noises

It's a meme

[spice spire]

[thorn fjord]

[uncut echo]

[spice spire]

Horny posting in the year of our lord 2023

Isn’t that right @distant lava

[royal lantern]

always horny posting

even on main

[uncut echo]

ITS NOT HORNY POSTING

[spice spire]

[uncut echo]

Mommy is not horny

It's an aesthetic

[subtle tundra]

My spluper power is me

[grim jay]

Same, we too old

[thorn fjord]

So our DH decided to test our gm yesterday

[balmy condor]

Armpit?

[spice spire]

Also no

Also ur a sub OTP yeah?

[thorn fjord]

Then when the GM got upset the DH pulled the race card lol

[balmy condor]

@rigid mango ban this man

[spice spire]

?

Bros?

[royal lantern]

wait what

[spice spire]

Mf has the hots for powder from arcane

[grim jay]

You mean he called him a dwarf?

[balmy condor]

No that’s my dad

[spice spire]

And I gotta call weird when I can man

[spice spire]

FUCK

[thorn fjord]

He was saying the non hard R version of the word in voice chat and they told him to stop and then he starts going off saying he shouldn’t be telling a grown black man what to say

[spice spire]

Wait

Does she look like that?

[rigid mango]

[thorn fjord]

At that point everyone else was like

[spice spire]

If so send her zine’s way

Wait

[subtle tundra]

I have a friend armpit enjoyer

[rigid mango]

We're gathered here today to say goodbye to our good friend quake

[spice spire]

I forgot the other problem

[subtle tundra]

He cool af

[spice spire]

[balmy condor]

Zines into bar girls not train wrecks

[grim jay]

Did he pronounce it with an elongated i or a normal one tho ?

[spice spire]

Wish he were into me :/

[uncut echo]

Ban quake, and I will find you.

And I will harm you

[balmy condor]

If they handle more alcohol than zine

They’re in business

[thorn fjord]

No he was just saying the slang

[spice spire]

Lmfao

[rigid mango]

This would be content tbh

[rigid mango]

[spice spire]

[rigid mango]

harm me mommy

[spice spire]

Brother

[balmy condor]

Waiting for zine v shiennar drink duel

[spice spire]

Seek help

Zine vs jigglypuff

[uncut echo]

https://tenor.com/view/head-pat-gif-24999880

[grim jay]

Totally on shiennars side

[rigid mango]

I've lost too much weight man my drinking capablities are going down

[balmy condor]

Bulking season

[uncut echo]

I can fix you

[rigid mango]

Next christmas

[rigid mango]

Fix what

[spice spire]

You should call her

[rigid mango]

Don't tempt me with a bad time

[balmy condor]

He’s a fellow armpit enjoyer you shall do no such thing

He’s perfect

[rigid mango]

[spice spire]

Y’all wild for that one

[rigid mango]

For what, armpits?

[spice spire]

Ye

[subtle tundra]

They hot

[rigid mango]

Aint that crazy

Wont leak though

mr pineapple man

[uncut echo]

Fix you a nice meal

[thorn fjord]

They censor armpits on Twitter now

[spice spire]

Bro

I’m trying to give you the strats

[rigid mango]

Just made chicken wrap with tzatziki, pickled red onions and feta cheese I'm good for now

[spice spire]

That’s a protein dessert

[rigid mango]

[subtle tundra]

Fuck am hungeerrrrr

Last meal was 3 hours ago

That's so long

[rigid mango]

mfw bulking off my own protein dessert

[storm belfry]

go eat bruv

[subtle tundra]

Am at gym 👴🏻

[uncut echo]

Its too close to sideboob

[spice spire]

That’s called efficiency zine