#assassination
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back to bed
I'm just waiting
seen this play out like 100 times at this point
if history has it, the justification will play itself out in ~15 minutes
Of course
Please bless us with your infinite wisdom

please take your opinions on non-assassination related topics to #wow-general
I thought you said wisdom, not common knowledge
Hmm how about you take your moderation to #somewhere-else
How about you figure out where I asked for your 2 cents
Sorry
I had a good time tonight
Did they play Free bird?
I thought this channel was politics only
good 🙂 I'm glad you had a blast
What's a that
No it’s candy discussion actually
skittles
Skynards Epic
The song they play when Jenny in Forrest Gump almost jumps from the balcony
I personally prefer lifesaver gummies
that's valid
Skynyrd 🤓
Probably
Should be about the same
More in depth; different formatting. Long short will be the same tho
pins

@gusty mirage are u bullying herb names?
nutella factory, just gotta go round back
Hmmmm
y'all ever milked a lemon?
round the corner, wowhead assassination rogue guide

I have nipples Greg ... can you milk me?
oat is not a nut at all
pee milk?
expensive
yeh
Who likes fishsticks?
Ripple is like $20/gallon
wait you pee'd where
We give my son Oat Milk and he LOVES that shit
I only drink cows milk 
am i ur son
used to like them as a kid
but now I'm not really a fan of fish
I like a nice salmon
but the processed breaded fish stuff
is real bad
it almost has like a plastic taste or something
can't get it out of my mouth
are you still talking mate
What is going on
Idk
Sushi is overpriced as fuck specially considerating that you don't even have to cook it
smh
arent the fish stick things supposed to be healthy too?
Only if you're a gay fish
Yea they heal their allies
jail
Remember guys Kanye is the voice of a generation
go away
Do you think ER is going to stay as a go to Capstone throughout the rest of the expansion? I know its a super broad question lol
Its just kind of a let down taking ER and RC imo
Buddy your name is googles recommended password
i laughed irl at that
Gonna have to get a bigger block list
I know who I am as a person, just block & move on. No trolls need fed
Another reason to enjoy Nitro today! 
are you partnered with discord, or just partnered with Ravenholdt who is partnered with discord?
either way, how much you get?

!mute @keen helm slapping you back 24h homie, take a breather please
get rekt
didnt even go out with a bang 
Google recommended PW killed me though LMAO
TYRANNY
Quake is fair and balanced. Dont question the method
I would've muted him 40 minutes ago
This does seem to veer in the general; however, it looks cool
Yeah but I figured y’know he may give up and be productive
She’s a rogue
With a spear
I'll go halfsies and just take it for a weekend
I gave up
Alexstrasza aint no rogue
You can get a real Alexstrasza cosplayer for 900$
prob cheaper tbh 🤣

900? I'll cosplay anything..
I can't get my wife to wear heels, you think she'd put that on?
Ik, same bro
Say less, can you cosplay as someone who isn’t disappointed in me?
that's gonna cost you
Dont think theres anyone on this planet disappointed in you bb
There are plenty, dw
they can steal my look for $20, just some jeans and a raggedy t-shirt
I came into work today in a hoodie and some like golf shorts. I normally have to wear tie and the whole bit, And I’ve not done shit today. 
Because tonight will be the night that I will fall for you
sexy
That looks fire
my work day has consisted of Cigarettes and Sin channel
you must be european
Nah Cuban
aka non-american, get back to work the shareholders need a new boat
enjoy it while it lasts boys
You're the dude that hasn't pooped, hasn't eaten and has the garden with trash outside in Sims 1.
enjoy what
free reign over this channel
you should enjoy me
fuu sandbagging assassination sims smh
yea but tauren aoe stun
SMOrc
blasphemy
Dwarf
just wait till you see vanish syncing
and gives 🥛
my dad did that. I gained no DPS
no cross faction guild yet
100k sim 
nah it's not that impressive
Chatting my hof position
assa not even simming for 100k
Alliance HOF 🤝 Mediocre Players
You can omit HOF and that statement would still be true
Combined hall of fame is gonna be sick
say you're sorry
just enjoyed reading the female toons guy story arc in this channel
we need df, everything is degenerating 😦 we need it now
its been a rollercoaster
We just need the spec to suck then all the fotm andys leave
sin has fotm andies now
the FOTM andy's dont know that Sin is the funk yet
or is this still outlaw channel
whats fotm
lol
Its just like sod
DH
hold on a min, I swear only fight sin was better than sub at was like sylvanas iirc
sub was goat tier that fight
maybe the 9
Nah Sin with runes dominated
idk I'm trying to remember
Maybe like 1 week into the raid tier
fated tier or prog
But sin was the best in farm easily
sub was better with sylv daggers, sin was better before
Prog
they weren't super far from eachother tbh, sub was ahead then people found the dashing build or something but idk if it was ever better
I was able to run Sin all of prog for SoD
I played sub on prog and alternated specs for farm depending on what I was feeling in sanctum
Yeah so did i but it doesnt really matter
sandbag prog, go sin
like I think sin was genuinely quite close to sub iirc
bitch about mobility
Nah i wasnt hitting dmg checks with sin
less aoe pad no?
Vendetta flag vs dance?
also 2min class vs 1min
Theres no way dance is better
kyrian sub was like 100% dance for a minute
im talking OG KT prog not Fated
yeah
Obviously
was ur dmg downstairs low as sin?
Who cares about fated
Yeah it was
I topped every phase as sin
damn, vendetta not line up?
Power top unreal
Because damage doesnt matter on kt
I was getting out an extra 300-400k running Sub with the SB cdr
never played sin on KT, so idk how it is - sub blasted tho
I remember the kill, got some unholy number of interrupts, won the kick meter
was 4th on overall dmg
But either way it doesnt matter, in farm in sod most of the parses were for assassination since it was fotm
what ended up making it fotm? illegal amounts of crit + dashing n shard sets?
Frost set
Frost set mondo crits
The dashing and crit garbage was just abusing frost set
150-160k crits were nice though lol
Frost set was dogshit to play with
i wouldnt call it fotm. fotm is when the spec is clearly above the rest
rogue specs were pretty close to eachother
Felt better than shadow
blood set
Fotm is when a lot of people play it
Remember shadow was the first set we took prior to finding that frost was OP
survival was fotm
Yeah man I hated having constant 100% health pool shields
destro was fotm
It was definitely degenerate
If you liked frost set bonus you only care about damage
yeah, fotm isn't necessarily power - moreso popularity, then again for wow it tends to be closely linked
The true true fotm time was when they buffed pirate during Sepulcher
assa being slightly more played doesnt mean its fotm
Tunnel boiz unite
fuck unholy set, nothing to do with me even, just other dps 24/7 bitching about when it proc'd
I never bothered to track it
Unholy set was zzzzz
and we went blood anyway
And my guild made everyone run blood for Painsmith prog lol
Had more rogue players because all 3 were good
Im happy that the shards mechanic stuff is gone though... was not a fun interaction overall
As far as leveling up the shards
now I look into it
there were more arms warriors than rogues in total combited
combined*
That kinda tracks too tho
War's are more popular though
true true
And it was featured in rwf for big WFT dam
96,092?
Are we still dealing with Azerite power type stuff in DF?
more boomies, more dhs and hunters
yes
pretty sure they scrapped that kind of system
Thank god
please show lower numbers. lets sandbag a bit.

96,096
preach interview is gud btw @thorn fjord
that's not with the ER Thing right
yeah i should check it out
or is that with the ER thing
ER thing 
@thorn fjord
I accedentally picked the wrong cov when choosing and was stuck as kyrian for two weeks - actually missed it when I went venthyr
god pre 9.1.5
moreso the pelagos mastery buff than anything else
that trait wasn't unlocked yet when i was kyr iirc

no
or just m0
m0, m+ on raid release
bruh
What varas said
ye
Yeah man
always did that
the second week is always very boring
Agreon is an sl baby
i wasnt relevant when SL came out
LMAO
It's the Finnish mafia
Good lads all of em
i think i hit lvl 60 like on the first day of raid
and then i didnt raid
i did the world boss
probably good to level fast and do the profession things
professions :pepew:
feral GAMING
past monk idk if i want dk feral or dh
ret fun
i had different ones
In keys which bleeds are important to track and maintain through constant mouseovering or target switching? I’m trying to work on a player profile to track all my bleeds.
i had priest really early, then i did monk alt, then i stuck with mage for a while, then i had dk in s4
Crimson tempest is an aoe ability right, so I don’t need to multidot it it just applies to all?
correct
Yep@
So garrote and rupture primarily, isn’t there an ability that applies one of those 2 to everything?
Managing 3 ST bleeds in Ao3 🤮
yeah, our new aoe cooldown indiscriminate carnage does that for us
every 45s
puts it up on 8 targets around the player
45 second cooldown, 26 seconds if applies rupture?
What alt(s) u guys leveling out of curiousity?
I haven’t actually played with IC yet.. does garrote and rupture have to be already on your MT for it to spread?
Def a dumb question
it's the next garrote & next rupture you cast
and you can cast it out of stealth
Ah ok
so you get the juiced garrote on all
@swift dagger
So better to use ic with garrote only if you have vanish or shadow dance?
Or better to use garrote always?
o shit u just discussed this mb
you'll want to keep up garrote even w/o it coming from stealth
Your next garrote and rupture
but don't overwrite an empowered garrote w/ a regular one
It’s not an or
That’s pog

yeah IC is a super nice quality of life CD
Is there a window when you can cast or is it just your next rupture and garrote regardless on how long it takes to actually cast them

So when ic is on cooldown how we are multi dotting
tab n stab
Apply to each mob basically
This
it's your next cast of either, I haven't tested if it times out after a long time
but it does last a while
I’ve heard that about you
Okay so I’ve been working on this plater script, changes color based on debuff applied is there anyway to make it track both garrote and rupture

For instance, color for one, and maybe a border or something to indicate another?
!fuu
Evaluation Spreadsheet: http://tiny.cc/2bq0vz
What script? May be easier to just do icons for each
for garrote & rupture you're probably better off just having the icons tbh
cause they're pretty much mandatory upkeep on both
Think most of us just use the counter and icons
I find icons hard to manage in big pulls
yeah it is kind of a mess in big pulls
Eventually you’re gonna just hit CD on garrotes and ruptures
I do know @limber lion had the color of the nameplate change for bone spike in his plater profile
Old SL logic was what, 3 ruptures and garrotes? Maintain CT
Yeah currently for outlaw I have the debuff change nameplate color for BTE
Then prio target
4
But unsure how to do it with 2 debuffs
spread as many ruptures as possible
while maintaining snd w/ envenom, and CT
Thought you wanted to spread only to 4
Yea buts there is DR after what 4? Plus TTL of each mob with rupture etc
Perfect representation Lolol
me forgetting to envenom for snd
Mob at 15% isn’t getting max rupture etc
Also we multidotting envenom or just on. Primary target?
Don’t garrote the low mob, et al
you just envenom primary target
ye
That would be a nightmare haha
There’s a lot of dumb nuance weak auras and scripts won’t watch
Or just brain overload
I mean I enjoy it
But if I had to interpret the weak aura, then process it, then apply it, I’d quit
Just easier to keep the info pertinent and work smartly based on situation
Make sense?
you ever have your brain short circuit on a giga big pull
and you just sit there trying to reboot your brain for 3-4s
and the warlock killed everything already?
I buy an entirely new mouse every patch to just fry my god damn brain

that's why I suggest outlaw to anyone who asks me
And yea. My brain blue screens
it's just a lot less overload on the brain
We like a challenge
Too many DHCP leases and I can’t hit the internet
And multidotting is highly mechanical, which makes it fun
ye its super satisfying
Which is why @subtle tundra is giga big brain
But seriously tho y’all just really look at debuffs the whole time?
Truly. But BF and only working on one target opens your brain up for gouge, KS, CS etc
yeah you just kinda get used to it
and you build your internal timer for when its time to refresh bleeds
It becomes muscle memory and you go off of feel and mental storage
so it just literally becomes muscle mem
@balmy condor for youre twitter talk make sanguiny like outlaw bladeflury xd XD
What
me when jailer parried 3 mutilates ina row
when I was standing behind him

Fucking cock
Think he means Exsang talk
My brain lags
Game froze for 10s i have no idea what happened"
I took 3 months off, came back and the hole count down changed
My fucking brain hard reboot
yeah fated was great
10/10
I refunded my sub
-10/10
sped up the bomb timer too
Took another 2 months off
so our first time doing jailer fated
True story
I walked away with 99/100 alliance HoF
Came back
Wouldn’t qualify for alliance 300th
This game sucks
you'll always be HOF in my heart
Just be entertaining pal
Why wouldnt you qualify though. Seems kinda weird if you were 99
From US 20 to who the fuck cares
Or spread propaganda ala tettles
Rogue propaganda
Yes man
I tell the Starbucks barista about rogue all the time
She’s gonna call you soon @spice spire
shouldve sandbagged like dh and warlock
It worked out for dh 
I thought that dh placement was a meme
anyone have a skeleton plater script i can use that makes nameplate border glow when certain debuff is applied?
realized tracking 2 colors doesnt work, one will override, most recently applied debuff will
!fuu
Evaluation Spreadsheet: http://tiny.cc/2bq0vz
The time has finally come to go home... Catch you guys in a few days ❤️
Be safe
well hard to count the damage as most of the damage comes from the duplicated bleeds
but on a 5 min patchwerk fight raidbots saying around 7%
oh okay i did like a quick sim just to see if im doing good or bad and it said dm should be doing around 10-12% i was like what
Makes sense with duplicated bleed + energy gen you get
oh okay thanks, then details dont rly show how much it does actually right
is the duplication of the poison stacks from amplifying-poison with deathmark really suppose to work like that? Seems crazy good at the moment - at least for pvp
pvp lol
IC is for next garrote AND next rupture right?
yes
It's super nice to use from stealth with the buffed aoe garrote
i mean, thats less "super nice" and more "how you are supposed to use it" ^^
hi all, stupid question but do you deathmark before applying garrote and rupture or after youve applied imp garrote etc
Deathmark after
After.
ty!
Assassin new theme is “so what if I made them bleed more”
Hello would this be wotlk?
tyvm

Garrote, Rupture, Internal Bleeding, Doomblade, Bone Spike, Exsanguinate makes you wonder why rogue needs poisons when target is depleted of all blood sources. 
Poison just bleeds right after injection. 

Put bleeds back in Sub, make poisons great again.
I was edge of night as sub's poison
i know how you feel for once
They called me a madman
Lmaooo
Something something balance
Something something sub has dark brew
The only brew I stan is bone dust
something something im bored
Monk time
Not enough drama 
Real
DELETE EXSANG
there did it
Wheres my boy google password
Are you not entertained?
He got perma’d
There he is! 
He had a gamer moment in my dms 
I thought he was 1 dayed
what did i miss there
Oh
oh

Gamers
Shocker
most opressed group
wait what
Real
lmao
Misogynist homie has a gamer moment

My mom plays more hours of mobile games weekly than I do of vidya
they already did that before
Don’t propagate this
Had that shit on speed dial
i dont think its obtainable anymore, was off a shadowlands prepatch mob
Doz 
Rizz
force multiplier enchant? 🤔
shadowlands prepatch
what is your name
I may have done that one buddy 
oxi's discord kitten
Yeah you could do me anytime
you take him then
That’s what I’m saying man
Something something 1984
no ty

More like
Red stink inbound
Idk man I’m colorblind poison
Exsanguinate is yo bro.
We heard you like bleeds
So we gave you a bleed so you can bleed while you bleed. 
I closed my phone for 7 hours to drive to Santa Barbara, spend the day on the beach, have some drinks. Open phone back up, still talking exsang.
You could go for a month long trip and you'll still come back to us talking exsang
Propaganda? Isn't his thing the n word?
He was all over the clout gamer word leaks last year lol
Wild he was still allowed to be an announcer for blizzard
Clout gamer word wut?
Clout gang was a toxic guild that likes the n word
Someone leaked a ton of their discord messages.
While that doesn’t surprise me, I had no knowledge 
Ngl a non small number of top end guilds are like that
Tettles had few. But maybe he was just moonkin brainrotted
What do you expect, people are racist
It’s sad too, it’s easy to be a decent person - but I digress
Was just weird to see blizzard ban the GM but let tettles be an announcer. Ohwell
The thing that makes me cringe is that it’s always like all white dudes doing this shit in private servers, like you wouldn’t do it irl, what makes it right online?
Edge
It’s not, same with people who shit talk, etc. The only difference between me speaking here, and me speaking in person is I’m more serious and listen a bit more sense it’s easier to read and formulate thought than listen + speak at the same time
How about we go back to talking about exsang

I can’t remember much, during expedient era in bfa, did people hate exsang?
yep
I’m guessing it’s the prep that’s hated more than the refreshing after it
check the pins for whisps explanation
he summs up most painpoints with the ability
Be super real
A lot of it is from outlaw players
Who happened to play sin during it
Cause outlaw wasn’t great
And Assassination was giga fast and big burst
utlaw
It was a bit jarring because that’s when I came back to wow after last playing throne of thunder 
During 8.3 there was a huge amount of “new” sin players that just were raving about how great it feels for sin to be energy capped
Wasn’t a fan of 8.3, didn’t mind the GCB tech tho, oddly
“I hit exsang and the bleeds tick so fast the numbers coming off the target”
“Sin feels so smooth now that I don’t have to worry about energy”
“The burst is insane it feels so good”
That type of shit
The exsang hate was there, but it took a backseat to the big number = good crowd
Weren’t you a primary force in Exsang hate?
Remember when exsang was 400%
Pre CF whispyr days. Wild times
I was, yes
People would love exsang if it was given the flourish treatment
Guys I made a disturbing discovery.. I don't even know how to say this
I was also a primary force in the no CT single target gang
Extend dots to max pandemic, double tickrate
Im even afraid to say it
I remember that too 
toxic blade was like 0.7% behind
Some of my first questions were really really basic things, and I remember you hating CT ST. Which hasn’t changed tbf
Its a shittier rupture that doesnt trigger vw
It was a GIGA gain for me because scuffed gear, and gcb was my only decent trinket 
If you guys go the toilet and close out the lights
Then whisper Exsanguinate, Exsanguinate, Exsanguinate, three times and then look into the mirror
Ion comes and deletes your parses
"my openers scuffed sorry guys, no vita proc"
Real
dude, remeber pre CF infiniteman days?
when he was just another zoomer in the channel
imagine taking a break until 8.3
coming back cus of covid
and then decide"yo, lets become a CF"

I didn’t decide. It was never my goal
what are the reasons somone becomes a CF anyway
My goal is just to help anyone who asks - as much as I can 
I’m not entirely sure, don’t think there’s any set thing
I'm fairly positive it's someone who tries to provide accurate information and guide fruitful discussion
So how the fuck oxi made orange blows my gd mind

Wish he’d show me something else

Punctuation is important 
God damn dude
Website
Website?
quinoa. that’s the dogs food.
Oxi sucks
i shall love ya
lemme have a piece
frfr
My cock when i ask him to because hes so cool
(I’m waiting on the call)
@humble ginkgo the one can’t have processed or cold food, so I prep & cook for her.
Im actually in whispyr's territory rn i could slam that bussy no cap

ok hataro
OT pins
I knoe
hataro would travel
Me
who's talking shit
@oak sky
Not me sir
🥰
you got somethin to say bitch?
I was just talking about how much i love and appreciate you
And how I am somewhat near whispyr's vicinity
the website done?
That’s an evergreen one
the website's been done?
do you need someone to walk you through the browser old man? 
netscape is still loading give him time
memory failing old man?
I forgot to check 
You need someone young checking on you two
It’s definitely my memory failing
Why isnt whispyr checking
Hmm
Homie legit lives for wow rogue
The only other zoomer in the green team is guy
Push is peak zoomer 

seli and I in retirement home soon
I'm in a cremation jar
are there any comparisons between the three specs yet? dpswise
Sin > sub > outlaw
Buddy you’re on the younger side of this chat rn
!fuu
Evaluation Spreadsheet: http://tiny.cc/2bq0vz
Loose numbers subject to change etc.
If I could get blizz to do one thing it would be to remove that shit spell
destroying my spec 😭 (my opinion)
destroying is a bit disingenuous
remember when skip insulted the first dev that was here
then realz showed up and the first thing skip did was insulting him aswell?

6 active abilites from class and spec tree in optimal build is making me sad
remember when daps was shit talking talents and couldn’t come up with any response when asked by the devs on what he wanted?
remember when skip got called out for dm'ing the first dev
tbf, players dont need to come up with something new
like
I mean you’re engaging in the conversation. then shoot blanks.
its sounds weird, but if somone can say "x is bad" and other people come with "and what would YOU do to replace x??? huh???" is....eh?
saying the flaws you see with something etc...is valid
if you can come up with something you think is better, great (reminder that 99%of community ideas are bad)
can’t communicate what you want it won’t do much. even spitballing anything (which is how kingsbane came back)
is better than saying this sucks
Like if you think exsang is bad you are also, as a player, not at liberty to think of something to replace it
You are allowed to make suggestions
So countering the question with a question is pretty standoffish
this channel just wants a passive.
Because it doesn't solve anything
anything that isn't an active spell and changes the playstyle
:icant:
You are not allowed to expect your suggestions make it to testing
Every month I unsub to remove the credit card I put as reason:
I don't like Exsanguinate
Like creeping death? 👀
nah i like exsang.
Fucking based
Passive doesnt inherently imply uninteractive, blindside is a passive
even more so that it triggers people.
If exsang was less clunky Id fucking LOVE IT.
If it baked in a max pandemic for free and removed any setup I'd fucking slam it
I wouldn't mind blindside if they made it so I didn't have to bind ambush out of stealth
just going to watch the world burn.
fave hobby of mine
either make it buff mut or turn mut into ambush
That's literally such a non issue
would be nice qol

wow fascinates me with the attachment people get to their toon, class and or spec. if it’s not fun, try something different that is fun. i don’t understand playing a game and being miserable playing it.
Multi spec freak of nature kpb
sin was the only spec I enjoyed 🤷♂️
thinking dh for m+
A lot of people make personal connections to their character in game.
dun think 2x rogue gonna be it in keys.
My rogue is an extension of me in Azeroth
But I also recognize that rogue ain't it for the competitive side of things.
I.e. m+ because I need to tank
change is scary for people
not discounting that, but end of the day you should be having fun and so many act like exsang is the end of days.
like someone might complain about x class is op and you can tell them why don't you play it
etc
and they'll always weasel out of it
You're correct. It's just depressing if design decisions are made that you don't like for your spec
Ya feel?
I will probably stop playing soon into xpac if exsang dont get nerfed
atrophic + mind numbing on tyr weeks pog
just because it’s op doesn’t mean it’s fun
I think among all melee classes rogue is probably the best shot at meta
For non fotmers youre right
it's unlikely all three specs would be undertuned
sv got boring after 5 keys. lol
🧢 you dropped this
nothing makes classes meta except borrowed power.
design never does. just raw numbers.
Whoever does most number and has best utility
no, being ranged does.
2
2 specs wot
sub never counts
Tmb is turbo correct
Sub always counts wtf you meam
Sub is theoretically the best
Due to unlimited stops
🎣
melee spots just go to your best players, not to the necessarily best class. if one of your best players is a feral you have a feral now.
Correct
You put the meta on ranged
And you take the god king or queen on melee
Becaude they're so much better than everyone else
kinda ironic since range generally have more mechanics to do
And your raid leader is on tank :>
Mechanics arent leather
Lethal
Unbroadcasted frontals, shockwaves, aors
like tmb is true
in general since it's easier to get a range dps spot the better players are often melee since melee is super popular too
Ok are we talking m+ or raid
my statement is for both
It's not "just numbers"
ranged also happens to bring all the best utility
only damage
funny isn't it
Yet you brought a rogue
Because they had gouge
Kidney
Cheap
Blind
Sap
Shroud
Survival theoretically brings Bloodlust if you actually need it.
MM can't provide it despite their nutso AoE cause of Lone Wolf
(delete lone wolf btw)
they can, they just dispell the pet and cast it midway through the cast or smth
His name was robert paulson
they lose a global or two but they still bring lust
any MM saying they don't bring it at all are just lazy
yes i know they can. it was more a general statement of how i hate Lone Wolf as a concept.
They also brought sooth, purge, melee kick, stun, freeze trap
it'd be like if Assassination just randomly had a talent that gave you +damage for being unarmed
Fucking lmao
why are we giving a damage boost by taking away a core mechanic of a class
with all due respect, hunter's utility toolkit is one of the weaker ones out there
You are right
reminder that utility is extremely overslod, if a spec has dmg its brought, if it doesnt have dmg, all the GIGA UTILITY wont give you a spot
But it isnt nothing
actually better would be if you got a damage boost for doing damage to a target with no bleeds or posions as assassination
But it was nuts before
survival wasn't brought before the tier set due to turbo trash st even if they had strong aoe
Binding shot was absurd
glad it got nerfed tbh
people only value utility when it's on a class that does dmg
for m+ it feels like
the only utility that matters realistically is Warlock's lol
gate and healthstone are required to raid
for raid sure utility has value
(at a serious level)
that and all classes bring some level of utility
this so much
we have this every single time
a class has something for ages
then the class is tuned high and SUDDENLY the utility is INSANE
i feel like even if warlock was mid to even lower dps, gate and healthstone guarantees them a raid slot
but they are a unique case of their utility being absurd
you can have all ranged dps utility and still have 20 raidspots
there's fairly sharp diminishing returns past first warlock in terms of utility.
like, melee slots are limited, ranged far less
depends on the fight, but sure
but yeah gateway and stones are pretty much a raid buff
and 2 warlocks is often useful for a few fights, 3 for extreme cases
probably their worst designed fight in terms of class balance
end of the day damage >>> defensives + survivability
















