outlaw

[haughty wigeon]

.

welp

[desert tendon]

who s grill?

wtf is that

[haughty wigeon]

[lime lake]

i dont think the incans had grills

[haughty wigeon]

we had rocks

welp

[desert tendon]

try maya, it works better

[haughty wigeon]

FUCK THE MAYA

[desert tendon]

i ve played tomb raider myself

[haughty wigeon]

FUCK THOSE

[desert tendon]

maya > inca

[haughty wigeon]

SNAKE PEOPLE

[desert tendon]

no cap

[haughty wigeon]

sacerficing to some noname god

named

iyqwagdwaiuybwdajawhdbawdhjwaqotal

instead of

chad inca god

[desert tendon]

@iyqwagdwaiuybwdajawhdbawdhjwaqotal how you doing bud?

[runic bough]

yeah confimed wox is playing meta

[lime lake]

idk incans were kind of based

[runic bough]

sin rn

[haughty wigeon]

viracocha

chad creator god

shitted out the sun

pissed out the moon

[lime lake]

instead of taxes you just showed up and did some work

[desert tendon]

yoooo

[lime lake]

and got a place to live

kind of based

[desert tendon]

@proven ocean wox playing bleed

[haughty wigeon]

[desert tendon]

i think bleed goes well into the comp tbh, more physical dam

[runic bough]

also note that wox's overalls went up drastically

9.3mil omg

[desert tendon]

meanwhile

[merry harness]

They wiped fast tho

[desert tendon]

unfortunate does 6m on first cinderbrew pull

have u see the clip ryu?

[runic bough]

no

[desert tendon]

Her face make me laugh

[glass mortar]

i mean its not in ur power

[runic bough]

wat clip

[glass mortar]

if u dont get good rolls

[desert tendon]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XWWHeB-WPiM&t=240s

[glass mortar]

and good procs

[desert tendon]

ryu

check her face

[glass mortar]

u just do 6m dps on 8t

[desert tendon]

when she check on the metter

[glass mortar]

during most important pull of the dungeon

[runic bough]

[desert tendon]

her face i swear

https://youtu.be/OemEhHxG9m8?si=Ab69rOoqHkR4hC3P&t=380

another clip of her if u d like

ks is banger

outlaw is currently good for content creation ngl

[glass mortar]

its not its only good for content clips

people get motion sickness watching outlaw

cant watch for too long

[desert tendon]

actually true

this season i couldnt watch zac for too long

probably because of that

[glass mortar]

its different when u play itk inda

[desert tendon]

playing it is probably fine, bad but fine, but watching someone playing outlaw is worse

[glass mortar]

like at this point i just zone out and stare at the place im gunna end at when i press the button

without thinking

xd

[lime lake]

lmao

what a cursed button

[proven ocean]

Its fine i kinda care less about what people play now

[haughty wigeon]

please

[proven ocean]

Its not like i want to get invited, i time all my keys with my friends only

[lime lake]

[desert tendon]

why so

[haughty wigeon]

make killing spree not kill you

[desert tendon]

are u reformed?

[haughty wigeon]

yes

[runic bough]

LOL

[haughty wigeon]

hes good

[proven ocean]

So idc if other rogues are bad

[wide nexus]

Just close your eyes and press KS to avoid motion sickness

[proven ocean]

Or playing wrong shit

[runic bough]

The german rage war was great

[proven ocean]

I kinda give up now

[runic bough]

Censi

[haughty wigeon]

playing keys with friends

[proven ocean]

Because

[haughty wigeon]

is the only way to play keys

[proven ocean]

Everytime i talk about rogue

[haughty wigeon]

holy shit

[proven ocean]

Its like

Im talking to a wall

[haughty wigeon]

i cant stand these monkey pugs

[runic bough]

Zeross hello

[haughty wigeon]

i cant stand vdh meta

[lime lake]

[runic bough]

I am wall

[haughty wigeon]

holy fuck

let me play the game

[proven ocean]

The person im arguing with did +25 cinderbrew 3 chest and thinks he knows everything about rogue

[runic bough]

Welcome to the wall

[proven ocean]

And has 4k raider io already

[haughty wigeon]

i dont wnat to wait a million hours to play the game

[desert tendon]

i ve a name

[haughty wigeon]

cause vdh players can hold aggro for shit

[merry harness]

Might be projecting a bit there zeross

[desert tendon]

dont reduct me to "the person"

tyvm

[lime lake]

the wall

[haughty wigeon]

one wake of ashes

and its over

im dead

ive waited 10 seconds

to die

:)

[wide nexus]

Just play outlaw or Sin for perma tricks

[desert tendon]

ok wox is just padding at this poiint

[proven ocean]

R1 rage baiter

[desert tendon]

[haughty wigeon]

playing outlaw rn

ret vaultr is full

[desert tendon]

waiting for the prio target to be 50% hp to press deathmark

[haughty wigeon]

i dont wanna play my vdh rn

cause

i get yelled at

[wide nexus]

I try my best

[haughty wigeon]

for not playing chains

even tho

these monkeys dont like to interupt in a 12

crazy

[desert tendon]

not playing chain

[haughty wigeon]

black mount is nice

[desert tendon]

is trolling

tho

[vivid vessel]

why are you not playing chains

[proven ocean]

@desert tendon

[lime lake]

ono

[haughty wigeon]

cause im not at a level where its needed

[proven ocean]

Its being worked on

Very soon

[desert tendon]

chain + boomie is like

[haughty wigeon]

and frankly

[proven ocean]

Censi

[desert tendon]

the god of the game

[haughty wigeon]

censi

there is no boomies

[desert tendon]

gimme acces rn

[vivid vessel]

bro

you play a tank

[haughty wigeon]

boomies

[vivid vessel]

you have a tool

[haughty wigeon]

yes

i also have

[vivid vessel]

thats prolly the most op tool in the game

to group mobs

[haughty wigeon]

nah

[vivid vessel]

pixel perfect

[proven ocean]

Still working on the server but sure

[vivid vessel]

and you play without it ?

[desert tendon]

i mean

[haughty wigeon]

its not gorefiend

[proven ocean]

Can do when im on pc

[desert tendon]

my concern is

[vivid vessel]

thats one of the most cooked thing

[desert tendon]

what are u playing

[vivid vessel]

i have read

[desert tendon]

if not chains

[vivid vessel]

all week

[desert tendon]

?????????????

[proven ocean]

I kinda want 3-5 ppl to join early

Before i make it public

[haughty wigeon]

i feel like i should lawyer up

ehem

chains is good

but its not good for the content im doing

[vivid vessel]

bro you are a tank tho

[haughty wigeon]

yes

[vivid vessel]

like you shouldnt even try to do damage

[haughty wigeon]

most people who play chains

[vivid vessel]

you realize how much damage it is for the grp

[haughty wigeon]

dont press sigil of misery

[vivid vessel]

to have chians ?

[haughty wigeon]

or silence

[vivid vessel]

like just having the mobs grouped

quickly or easely

or just better grouped

[haughty wigeon]

dps issue

[desert tendon]

oh wait

[vivid vessel]

that spell is so op

[desert tendon]

wox is on tr

[haughty wigeon]

[desert tendon]

that s cool

[haughty wigeon]

i only play chains

in specific dungeons

and thats if i wanna try hard

[vivid vessel]

what key level you doing

[haughty wigeon]

12s

so

[vivid vessel]

im just starting to worry now

[haughty wigeon]

basically

[vivid vessel]

ok

good

[haughty wigeon]

meme content

[vivid vessel]

i was scared

i would ever get you into one of my keys

[haughty wigeon]

ya

i dont hate myself

[vivid vessel]

need to preentively block you you know

[haughty wigeon]

enough to play 17+

fuck that

[desert tendon]

Rem

go int zac keys please

chainless

[haughty wigeon]

ive been killed by chains

[desert tendon]

that owuld be great content

for twitch

[haughty wigeon]

as ret

and never again

fuck chains

[desert tendon]

oh yea

also

[haughty wigeon]

vdh tank

[desert tendon]

kill as many rets as u can

[haughty wigeon]

using chains to pull bombs in last stretch other motherload

wiped group

when ghosts were a affix

vdh used chains

and i got buttfucked by ghost

vdh used chains while losing aggro

and i got obliterated

by mobs

[desert tendon]

if u have aggro of a bomb

in ML

it s your fault

cuz u didnt wait for tank to pull them all

[haughty wigeon]

no no

the robots summon bombs

and they fixate on people

[desert tendon]

yea one every 25s

and u re ret

[haughty wigeon]

he used chains to pull it

[desert tendon]

you have 23942841 yards range

[haughty wigeon]

towards me

[desert tendon]

😠

[haughty wigeon]

and it exploded it

before i could react

so you see

[desert tendon]

also it s cool he tried to help u

[haughty wigeon]

my issue isnt chain in itself. good tool for content its needed

[desert tendon]

press shield

and explode it insta

for damage

very cool tank

[haughty wigeon]

but most chain players are a plague

[vivid vessel]

litteraly one scenario where chains is bad

in the entire game

[haughty wigeon]

chains pressed

[vivid vessel]

[desert tendon]

and yet

it s still good

[haughty wigeon]

i have more examples

yes

[desert tendon]

it s just unfortunate

[haughty wigeon]

its good

[proven ocean]

Xsv

Zac

[lime lake]

i like chains

[haughty wigeon]

just people arnt good using it

[proven ocean]

I miss u

Zac

How

Are

You

Zac

[desert tendon]

Xsv

[proven ocean]

?

[haughty wigeon]

i told zeross to play chains

[proven ocean]

Are

U doing well

Zac

[vivid vessel]

im going to sleep ross

[proven ocean]

?

[vivid vessel]

bb

[desert tendon]

Xs

[haughty wigeon]

cause he plays at a level where he needs it

[proven ocean]

WHAT THE FUCK AN

MAN

Its like

Ur calling someone on the phone

[haughty wigeon]

fuck

[proven ocean]

U expect him to say hello back

He says

[haughty wigeon]

another thing

[proven ocean]

Good night

And closes

The phone

LMAO

Zac

Thats

You

[haughty wigeon]

fotmer vdhs spam chains

[proven ocean]

Cooked ass

Mf

[haughty wigeon]

and dont press sigil of silence or misery

you can see

40+ chain casts

and

[proven ocean]

@desert tendon

[haughty wigeon]

3 misery casts

[proven ocean]

If uwanna play alts

[haughty wigeon]

and 4 silence casts

[proven ocean]

At

Somep

Point

Let me know

Ok?

So we can like

Play togeher

[haughty wigeon]

fuck vdh meta

[proven ocean]

If u want

[haughty wigeon]

and fuck chain player

[lime lake]

wtf why doesnt zeross want to play alts with me

[proven ocean]

BECAUSE U WOULDNT PLAY WITH ME ANYWAYS

Anyone

Wants to play

With me?

See

No one

[lime lake]

[runic bough]

guys i made a coffee cake

but it doesnt taste like coffe

[haughty wigeon]

pog

[runic bough]

damnit

[haughty wigeon]

so a improvement

[lime lake]

it takes an entire ocean to keep our love apart

[proven ocean]

Cookedyu is back

[desert tendon]

i m training my arcane, i m doing 14's on it rn

[haughty wigeon]

@desert tendon

[proven ocean]

Ryukage*

[haughty wigeon]

i think

[desert tendon]

some pull i press good button i m god

[haughty wigeon]

i had less issues when prot paladin was meta

[desert tendon]

some pulls i mess up i m tank

[lime lake]

do i need a phd to play arcane now

[haughty wigeon]

more than vdh

arcane

weird

you have to wait for specific seconds

to do things i think

idk

im not a filthy wizard

[desert tendon]

yea arcane is very scripted

proc rotations

[proven ocean]

Same as sub

Scripted

But

Yet

Everyone plays it wrong

[desert tendon]

it s not hard but it s tough to understand when to barrage

[proven ocean]

In M+

[desert tendon]

lemme show u

[proven ocean]

Sub is SUPER easy

But

Very info dense

Like

[haughty wigeon]

ye

[proven ocean]

U need to know alot of things

[desert tendon]

this is what u gotta learn

rest of arcane is piss easy

u have clearcasting => yu spend clearcasting

but barrage

[lime lake]

18 stacks of gsw pog

[desert tendon]

is awfull

[desert tendon]

like as u can see

[lime lake]

lmfao

[desert tendon]

it s all about learning the barrage prio

[wide nexus]

Why do they have pictures? Can mage players not read?

[lime lake]

yeah jesus

barrage gaming

ok maybe i try though

[desert tendon]

but

[lime lake]

im a ranged gamer now

need to learn mage

[desert tendon]

there is something cool

about it

lemme show u

https://wago.io/afkyBuCv3

there is a weakaura that track everything

and tell u when to press barrage

[lime lake]

is it actually accurate

[vivid vessel]

bout time people realized its not only with rtb tthat you can do that

[lime lake]

thats kind of wild lmao

[vivid vessel]

but every spell in teh game

[desert tendon]

it s 99% accurate

[vivid vessel]

heard of hekillih

[desert tendon]

it misses only one trigger but that s not that bad

[keen belfry]

why are we talking about arcane rn

[lime lake]

what else would we talk about

[desert tendon]

i truely think some classes can be played perfectly using hekili

[keen belfry]

im the arcane mage player here not you guys

get out

[lime lake]

wtf

[desert tendon]

like no joke

[lime lake]

i want to learn

dont kick me out

[keen belfry]

ask me a q bel

[runic bough]

awang this is outlaw, we always talk about other specs

[keen belfry]

i got u

[desert tendon]

Ok awang i ve got one for you

[lime lake]

i dont know enough to have any questions yet

[lime lake]

i need to level first

[digital linden]

i saw shadeofgreys playing 1 fth instead of two on kir, is there any merit tothat damage wise and is that whats most common rn?

[desert tendon]

if you have 1 nether precision AND clearcasting AND 3 charges AND 1 orb ready AND aether precision AND touch of magi ready

what do you press next ?

[runic bough]

how many buttons does arcane have?

[desert tendon]

5

[runic bough]

why is it hard

[desert tendon]

it s super minmaxed

[keen belfry]

im probs pressing barr orb barrage touch

[desert tendon]

it s kinda like outlaw

very proc dependant

from gcd to gcd

but the difficult part to me is just the barrage priorities

which are way easier in aoe

[keen belfry]

barrage isnt too hard once u get it

[desert tendon]

in aoe it resume to : you dont have clearcasting and you have 4 charges => press barrage

[keen belfry]

no

[runic bough]

awang the arcane pro now

[keen belfry]

i think thats very wrong if im reading it correctly

[runic bough]

[keen belfry]

me am arcane guy!!

have been mage guy forever kinda

[desert tendon]

that s 99% of the trick awang

dont make it complicated

[keen belfry]

are u saying

youre at 4 charges, no CC, and youd press barrage?

[desert tendon]

in pure aoe right?

[haughty wigeon]

treat hekili like a weakaura

[desert tendon]

no funnel involved

[haughty wigeon]

and ya i guess

[keen belfry]

the pure aoe priority got deleted

[runic bough]

im watching darkflanme and remembering im outlaw now and target capped

[keen belfry]

you play funnel

[runic bough]

[desert tendon]

fk funnel

[haughty wigeon]

play havoc

[desert tendon]

dude

i wanna press barrage

[haughty wigeon]

reaver funnel

[desert tendon]

barrage is funnel anyway

[blissful zinc]

U know outlaw is cooked when the channel becomes an arcane channel

[keen belfry]

cuh you are giving out objectively wrong advice rn

[blissful zinc]

We need some propaganda can someone screenshot and send it to the devs

[keen belfry]

it is funnel but wanna know wahts bad

[dawn talon]

i miss rune of power so bad

[keen belfry]

being in cds at 0 charges

[desert tendon]

i know outlaw is cooked when i see that

[dawn talon]

i actually liked that spell

[desert tendon]

obviously

[runic bough]

[desert tendon]

need to stay maxed charge as much as possible during cd

[runic bough]

who was that guy

censi

[desert tendon]

idk ryu

a random probably

[keen belfry]

aoe prio is basically=
Have Orb or Have Clearcasting or In Execute]

thats when u can barrage

and this is assuming 4 charges, obvi

[desert tendon]

oh yea i forgot about the exec thing also

[keen belfry]

but ill ask

[desert tendon]

the easiest prio anyway is

if you re out of mana, press barrage

[lime lake]

does arcane have execute

[keen belfry]

generating NP > barrage btw

[keen belfry]

insane execute ye

[desert tendon]

yea cuz you anyway want to nether precision barrage if u can

duh

[runic bough]

censi i was top dps without ace too

that was funny

[lime lake]

ok last question

[keen belfry]

arcane prio is crazy man

like

its so so good

[lime lake]

if i play arcane will my father love me again

[keen belfry]

depends

[runic bough]

no hes gone

[keen belfry]

on how much dmg you do to prio target

thats a huge factor in father love bel

[lime lake]

oh ok my dads kinda based

[runic bough]

he left for milk and they were out of milk

forever iso

i dont know my dad so i feel same

[blissful zinc]

Race change to tauren so he wont have to leave for the milk

On second thought

[runic bough]

[blissful zinc]

That sounds a bit off

[lime lake]

yeah i dont like that connotation

lets not do that

[blissful zinc]

My fault

High ping

[keen belfry]

get him guys!

[runic bough]

anyways

[keen belfry]

arcane is just so fun

not in raid but m+

[runic bough]

whats your aoe peak?>

[keen belfry]

ive hit 20 on first pull CB

[lime lake]

why is arcane not fun in raid

[keen belfry]

but youre very very target capped

[runic bough]

nice

[lime lake]

is its st boring or something

[keen belfry]

yeah

and fire is so fun in raid

[runic bough]

20mil while being target capped?

[sullen wyvern]

Fire in raid you are just jumping and instant casting everything

[runic bough]

outlaw is so being bullied if thats true

[sullen wyvern]

peak gameplay

[keen belfry]

yeah you are pretty target capped at 5, touch and orb arent capped but your biggest spell in game is 5 capped

[lime lake]

spamming spacebar is kind of based though

[sullen wyvern]

I got a friend trying to get me to play arcane, I don't have issues with that but I wanna paly outlaw

[keen belfry]

you arent outlaw target capped

but your a tier below it

[loud hazel]

[keen belfry]

all your dmg is going into a main target

its very cool

[loud hazel]

hey guys what's the rotation for outlol?, i think i'm missing something

[sullen wyvern]

Prio target damage best kind of damage

for ST?

There's not a rotation per se but spell priority if anything

[lime lake]

so when i play this in low keys how fucked am i when that prio target disappears instantly

[sullen wyvern]

depending on what you play

[keen belfry]

fucked badly

[sullen wyvern]

HO or KiR there are certain rules you have to follow

[keen belfry]

arcane is bad low key spec

[lime lake]

huge

[sullen wyvern]

All that information is on FAQ @loud hazel

[lime lake]

i hear the same about fire

do i just play frost in low keys lmao

[loud hazel]

i see

[keen belfry]

its weird, even in 15s if you play with good ppl stuff can die a few seconds too quick

yes

[loud hazel]

god, how many abreviations do we need?

[sullen wyvern]

I have a hard time getting a good overall as firemage in 12-13s

I usually pump hard in bosses

but shit dies too fast in 12-13s

[desert tendon]

@keen belfry seeing hopefull pressing barrage like 9 times in a row

so many orbs lmao

what a spec

very fun visually

[keen belfry]

yeah that can happen when no cc, outside of cc, and orb procs ye

its funny

[desert tendon]

going star wars

btw awang

[runic bough]

outlaw is very oppressed spec so its just played for fun. Dont worrry about your damage.

[keen belfry]

it looks so funny at times

[desert tendon]

have u played all 3 specs?

I like so much fire sunfury and frost frostfire

[sullen wyvern]

No, pump harder than the rest and humillate the meta spec enjoyers

[loud hazel]

yeah

[desert tendon]

like why all their 3 hero talent so good

[keen belfry]

i just dont like frost, but ive played all 3 ye

frostfire frost is not a good design haha

[desert tendon]

i really like frost rn it became so good with flurry usage

way way easier than before

shatter also

[keen belfry]

current frost needs rework

sunfury fire is sweet

arcane is great

[desert tendon]

u think so? i think it s good currently

[keen belfry]

its good, but weird

[runic bough]

im going to test GSW when i get 668 ilvl

I wonder wat it will be like

[desert tendon]

idk i havent really tryhard other frost iteration

but i really like that one

[lime lake]

last time i played frost it was in this weird state where you kind of just spammed ice lance

is it better now lmao

[keen belfry]

in what world is it better to just munch deaths chill procs, its so meh

[sullen wyvern]

I think you gotta play HO for GSW

[desert tendon]

what s death chill already?

stacks on icy viens?

[keen belfry]

or uh

uhhh

what is debnuff from flurry

winters chill

[desert tendon]

yea that

[keen belfry]

yeah you just munch winters chill all the time as current frost fire

[runic bough]

yeah i am testing it now at 648

[desert tendon]

in aoe yea

u dont really care about them

in single target not really tho

you always cast > flury > lance > lance

[sullen wyvern]

you'd also have to pick

which might mean that you cant play supercharger

[runic bough]

vigor leth yeah

in aoe tea is no bueno

sim likes leth

so I would go vigor leth gsw pc

[sullen wyvern]

GSW should be baseline just saying

[runic bough]

in order to get gsw

we have to drop ace

sadge

[haughty wigeon]

make gsw a execute

[runic bough]

or

its between

PC, GSW , GS

you can only have 2

not all 3

add in ace

[red zinc]

make gsw uninstall your game

[runic bough]

Timmy nobody wants that kind of feedback

so I just started blasting GSW

even at 648 my crits are 990k

so at 668 it must be really nice

[lime lake]

based tbh

[runic bough]

ive got 22% haste rn

with all this shit s2 gear

so

im going to try GSW with ace this time

and PC

no HO no KIR

[keen belfry]

this is why arcane is OP for timer in keys

neophytye mini boss in priory

[latent oak]

when u play prio specs u need a second details window

[keen belfry]

like this alone saves u 20 seconds

[latent oak]

of damage taken by specific mobs

[keen belfry]

yeah you will not beat the aoe specs xd

in overall

[lime lake]

just play with shitters

[latent oak]

after every pull insta hover the prio mob to download dopamine

[lime lake]

then you win in prio and aoe

[red zinc]

I mean itll just be a key by key basis

for fire/arcane

saw it in time trials alr

[viral bison]

do we got class notes for 11.1.5?

[frank finch]

no

there r no changes

[lime lake]

yes there is

[frank finch]

must be hidden

[lime lake]

huge class changes

[frank finch]

[lime lake]

the notes doubled in size since the last time i checked

they're putting in work

[viral bison]

pff

idk what should ido

want to play alt

[lime lake]

play arms

cool new visuals

[viral bison]

i dont want another below avrage class

[viral bison]

mw got too

guess they will ask chat gpt about buff and nerfs

so they didnt do anything

fill everywhere with buff outlaw

if they do chat gpt we get buff

[red zinc]

Pretty sure its them returning to an old visual

not even new

[lime lake]

lmao

huge

[covert kestrel]

whats your prog/rio?

[lime lake]

4700

[viral bison]

i just give up

[covert kestrel]

oh ok

[viral bison]

dont want to sit for 2 / 3 hour for dungeon

2700 i reach

ppl not inviting

[covert kestrel]

get friends

[viral bison]

and my key wont get filled

[covert kestrel]

ez clap

[lime lake]

no u

wait wrong reply

[viral bison]

got none

[lime lake]

fuck

[viral bison]

i shouldve choose a meta shit

so atleast some pepole who looks graph

[lime lake]

never take a meta shit

[viral bison]

would inv me

[desert tendon]

that s also why assa is the best rogue spec currently

Prio damage is lacking a lot in keys since they pepega boomie and pepega dk

but somehow fire is better than arcane in priory, if we look at the current data

[frail veldt]

Mage is a good pick

It's hard but literally always meta

Or can be hard depending on the content you're doing

[keen belfry]

its played more, i wouldnt say better

arcane is not widely popular like fire is

im gonna self promo https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e787_UfM2JI

[desert tendon]

i mean, arcane is dominant in dfc / ml already

just fire is more dominant in priory

[runic bough]

GUYS

PS dmg

[dawn talon]

well the differrence in those keys is huuuge

i think you have to play it a lot better to see the benefit in keys like priory

[desert tendon]

i mean

checking tr rn

100% priory are fire

100% dfc are arcane

same players, and i trust mages like wildi to be real good on arcane

[lime lake]

Never trust a mage player for anything

[wintry solar]

I stopped inviting them season 2 of df and my runs have been much better

[hasty warren]

new build ?

[wintry solar]

What on earth is that lol

Oh that's that gsw build

I forgor about that

[hasty warren]

how did u forget the new meta build

[wintry solar]

Because it's seeded outside of reality and I want it to be the actual meta

[round dragon]

I remember doing a comparison of GSW over GS in DF S3 and it was slightly worse

I was starting out tho so it probably was better with all my mess ups with GS lol

[keen belfry]

I think on TR they provably have to do some crazy pulls where arcanes target cap may be a hindrance. Like pulls where you actually need footmen to die fast

Which is probably only a thing on TR where you can do these pulls with the avoidance + ilvl they have

[chilly karma]

anyone know best talent tree for mythic vexie?

i didn't know if some aoe ks would be better or stick to st

[dawn talon]

ye

agreed

[gaunt phoenix]

just go st

ur parse is decided by 5 rolling during the intermission anyway

[chilly karma]

yeah i went st and i just try to walk in between boss and ads to hit blade fury

was ok

[runic bough]

OH NO

ITS SEASON 1 ALL OVER AGIAN

They wont even let u in a 6 key unless 3k rating

[gaunt phoenix]

thats every season since legion

[wintry solar]

Had someone check my IO for a 9

[latent oak]

arent u 640 ilvl or something

[runic bough]

650 now

[latent oak]

well there u go

[runic bough]

but im beating every dps i join

ilvl doesnt matter

yet

[wintry solar]

Tell them that

[latent oak]

just list key and u can be the dude cherry picking

[runic bough]

i am

im telling them know fights and pumper status

they have no faith

RIP

[chilly karma]

honestly i feel like i get invited pretty often as rogue

im surprised

just avoid groups that need lust still and usually easy inv

[runic bough]

i seen groups below 7's asking for lust

its comical

got 1k rating so far

jumping keys straight to 10's if i can get invited

[prisma sapphire]

it's too much

the pug mentality

but then i can't blame people for not inviting me to 14 meadery as outlaw

the diff between 99th percentile UH DK and outlaw is like 1 million DPS

some guy accused me of throwing my 14 this morning cause i only pulled 3.9m

[runic bough]

yep

crazy

well

I cant wait to test no tier with crit/vers gears

[wintry solar]

Ryu are you having fun?

When you are playing I mean

[lapis forge]

what's the general rule of thumb for spenders? aim for max combo points, even if you waste 1-2?

[daring oxide]

Outlaw right now minus lucky coin and killing spree is almost peak gameplay

[runic bough]

im back to be outlaw yes

im happy again to be outlaw

[daring oxide]

Fix glaring issues and you have easily the best and most fun spec in the game no contest

[torpid fiber]

first for HO second for KIR

[lapis forge]

ah, okay, that's about what I figured

basically, you play like pally

[torpid fiber]

#outlaw-faq has a guide

[lapis forge]

don't overcap stuff

[torpid fiber]

but yeah, overcapping bad

[lapis forge]

I think I'm being Outlaw-pilled

as I continue to level, I enjoy the spec more and more

[torpid fiber]

outlaw rocks there's a reason ppl one-trick it so much

[rotund zodiac]

[lapis forge]

been stuck in healer jail for so long

[runic bough]

[vapid sundial]

You mean less than half a percent?

The only reason it feels like a lot of people do is bc we just yap a lot.

Rogue is Already almost the least played class in game

And then there's like 8% who one trick ret.

[torpid fiber]

To me it's more about ratio of ppl who play spec to ppl who otp it

But yes obviously it's not a popular spec overall

[vapid sundial]

Rogue in general isn't popular

[torpid fiber]

ye

[vapid sundial]

And outlaw is the least liked spec

[torpid fiber]

Outlaw is one of the least popular specs in the game I'm aware

[vapid sundial]

It's the second id day

Say

After Aug xd

[frail veldt]

I dont think people dislike outlaw as a spec

they dont even think about outlaw

cuz theres so few of t hem

haha

[vapid sundial]

Well

Seeing as how #assassination and #subtlety freak out when outlaw is good for a tier

Even tho sub is bis 80% of the time

[frail veldt]

true

[vapid sundial]

When was the last time sub was 'bad'

9.0?

I know it was bad 8.3 bc it got killed previously due to one fight

But that's the last time I can think of

[frail veldt]

if you ask a sub rogue its right now

so

[vapid sundial]

Me when I'm not top of the class for a tier.

https://tenor.com/view/baby-gif-26024087

Was also just the way ppl freaked out about enhance

When it finally had a tier being good.

Just makes me hate wow players

[hollow temple]

maybe if they're dumb

[haughty wigeon]

most are

no offense

fotmers

[vapid sundial]

Yah

[haughty wigeon]

i didnt time my 13 mechagon

[vapid sundial]

I'd say 60% of this disc minimum is fotm

[haughty wigeon]

cause hunter got lost in maze

and ragequitted

:(

[hollow temple]

you can tell who the regulars are

[vapid sundial]

Yeah we yap always

[hollow temple]

only a couple sub regulars have the victim mentality rn

[vapid sundial]

That's how you know

But tbf I understand the outlaw yap

Devs actually hate us

[hollow temple]

meh

[vapid sundial]

I wouldn't really say meh

Last time outlaw was the spec was 9.0

And even then sin was as good as

[frail veldt]

wym

outlaw was giga in s3 df

[vapid sundial]

[frail veldt]

I mean it definitely was

[hollow temple]

anytime someone says something like this i'll disagree

[haughty wigeon]

nah

[frail veldt]

I dont think the devs think of "us"

[vapid sundial]

Well fair

[frail veldt]

just a bunch of people going to work and doing their job

[vapid sundial]

We just don't have devs

Frfr

[haughty wigeon]

these convos never end up good

[hollow temple]

yep

[haughty wigeon]

sadly alot of the changes outlaw recieved as of late

[hollow temple]

waste of time

[vapid sundial]

It's been the sentiment for awhile

[haughty wigeon]

are more oriented

towards ya know

the lower tier of player

ers removal

tea change

ect ect

[vapid sundial]

Well

[haughty wigeon]

we just prayge that rogue sees some attention in the coming patches

[vapid sundial]

That's what happens when ur the least poplar class

[haughty wigeon]

cause devs get cycled to various projects and other classes at a time

[haughty wigeon]

i mean i can telkl you the most popular class in the game

is mostly catered to the average player

[vapid sundial]

They make it easier to try and get more players

We all know it's ret man

It's nothing new

[haughty wigeon]

ye

do you want to be ret?

[wintry solar]

Better visuals would go a long way in participation tbh

[haughty wigeon]

design wise

?

[vapid sundial]

Ret players give me cancer

So Idk

[haughty wigeon]

cause theres like 0 skill expression

[severe grove]

killing spree

[vapid sundial]

No.

[haughty wigeon]

skilling spree is its own issue

that needs attention

[vapid sundial]

I mean lok made a good point

[haughty wigeon]

and the lack of attention rogue is getting makes me think its going to see alot of attention nect major patch

[haughty wigeon]

this btw

[vapid sundial]

They should have removed it awhile ago, but for some reason they left it as a landmine for future devs

Everytime they try and make ks relevant we hate it

[haughty wigeon]

cause it kills you

[vapid sundial]

The majority anyway

[haughty wigeon]

and disrupts the flow of the spec

[vapid sundial]

It's not even that

If it didn't kill me I'd still hate it

[haughty wigeon]

cause ya know, a channel fucks with outlaws playstyle

[vapid sundial]

Bc it's loss of control

Which is terrible

[haughty wigeon]

i like it

cause its the specs only fucking visual

aside of rtb

[vapid sundial]

[haughty wigeon]

thats also why i like new build btw

[hollow temple]

killing spree is my lil pogchampion

[haughty wigeon]

we rtb more, i see it more

[hollow temple]

and i will miss them when they are gone

[haughty wigeon]

so i enjoy it more

[vapid sundial]

I don't care for visuals as much as how good the rotation feels and sounds

[haughty wigeon]

pvp also likes ks right tricks?

idk

i dont like pvp after ss was added

[hollow temple]

yeah unfortunately

[haughty wigeon]

damn

[hollow temple]

it breaks roots n shit

[haughty wigeon]

bladestorm also does that right?

[hollow temple]

the damage stagger is also hella useful

[haughty wigeon]

ah

[hollow temple]

bladestorm straight up immunes all CC

if you cast it before they cast the CC on you

[frail veldt]

yeah bladestorm is op

you cna also press it after

you get cced

if you do it fast enough

itll just break it

[haughty wigeon]

crazy how both ks and bladestorm was added

in the sae expansion

and afaik

one is good

[frail veldt]

wait really?

[haughty wigeon]

yes

both were added in wotlk

ks was cool in wotlk

it actually killed things

[grim spear]

killed things

including me

mainly me

[vapid sundial]

Ks did all of our dmg yeah

[severe grove]

I came back because I saw people played KS 😭

Rogue was on backburner

then I played with 1 outlaw running it in a 10

[wintry solar]

Killing Spree Enthusiast but he's red

I like KS

I just wish it didn't kill me

Which I feel isn't a lot to ask

[haughty wigeon]

ye

it was nice

sl some bosses you just stay put

like eye of the jailer

[wintry solar]

Yeahhh

[rough anchor]

damn i came here seeing if i should alt outlaw...seems like that would only be trolling

big sadge

[wintry solar]

Nah it's fine

Outlaw is my alt

[rough anchor]

i like giving my fingers arthritis so law is my fav rogue spec

[fiery timber]

Just play what u want as alt.Outlaw is atleast the Most fun spec in the Game

If u can ignore that kss sometimes gonna kill u

[severe grove]

I haven't been here in a long time 💔

How do I change back

[wintry solar]

I have noticed your absence actually

Channels and Roles at the top

[fiery timber]

Pick outlaw role or ?

[severe grove]

I fixed it

I'm back

[fiery timber]

Good boy

[wintry solar]

Wanna hear a hot take?

[grizzled fable]

killing spree is always good never will not be

[severe grove]

Did you all miss me

Over the years of my absence

[wintry solar]

I knew we were missing somebody

When did you leave and why

https://tenor.com/view/worry-froge-froge-frog-frog-meme-concerned-froge-gif-14910954900261813627

[rotund zodiac]

I wish high ping didn't affect my gameplay

[wintry solar]

And I wish gsw was still 300%

But I'm gonna wish in one hand and shit in another and see which one fills up first

I'm sorry that's mean and uncalled for

[severe grove]

I was bored of Rogue

[wintry solar]

Real

[severe grove]

but I am back because Killing Spree

It is the sole purpose of me playing my rogue again

🤣

[wintry solar]

I am currently bored of outlaw

Now I play meme builds in 10s

[severe grove]

What is the meme build

[wintry solar]

Whatever comes to mind really

There is no THE meme build

Ho/kir

Ho/gsw

Stuff like that

I accidentally played this in a key the other day thinking I had HO talented into

[rotund zodiac]

what did bro cook

[wintry solar]

An accident