pvp

[grave basin]

how do you have time

[candid tide]

wait i can test that out myself xD

[outer sky]

The first 30 or so are quick. Someone just dies in the opener every round

[candid tide]

smh

[spring bough]

Crit percentages on abilities are around the same either at 23% mastery w more crit or 33% mastery with less crit 🤷‍♂️

BTE plus the bones buff really all the crit I feel like I need right now

Think my only crit piece is the chest

[quaint cedar]

I feel like crit is just more valuable because of the 4x crit damage for BTE plus the fatebound coin can crit

[outer sky]

The BtE thing is nerfed half in pvp

But yeah still

[spring bough]

I have like 500 crit rating and some games BTE will crit 85% + other games it’s like 50%

[outer sky]

It's something

[candid tide]

would u guys ever use symbols of death outside of buffing it up for secret tech?

[quaint cedar]

Oh yeah forgot about that

[candid tide]

so having it bind to secret tech always

[spring bough]

Did you guys figure out that if you have full CP, an enemy target and pop SND it triggers both a heads and tails at the same time

[outer sky]

But I still think crit is good for outlaw

[spring bough]

It won’t do it if u don’t have a target tho

[outer sky]

More than the other specs

Partially because haste has a hard cap where you don't want anymore and mastery is just underwhelming

[quaint cedar]

Yeah and doesn't the tails flip still yank you out of stealth if you're targeting something? That shit is a bit annoying ngl

[spring bough]

Yes it does lol

[outer sky]

I tested a crit heavy build on beta and killing spree was deleting people with it

[spring bough]

Come join the trick train it’s fun asf hitting that KS after a coup and watching people melt

[quaint cedar]

I reported that so many times in beta and it went live anyways lol

Yeah but my double grappling hook!

And I really detest the GCD lock on CDG feels so awkward and bad

[spring bough]

If you time a kick before coup goes off it’ll kick during the lock lol

[quaint cedar]

What do you mean?

[outer sky]

They're getting rid of that next patch

I wish they'd just hotfix it

[blazing copper]

Got the quest n items ty

[spring bough]

Like I hit a kick on a mage the other day right as I pressed coup. Coup went first and I kicked the mage during the animation

[stoic spruce]

Thats in like 4 months

[quaint cedar]

Yeah they should. Might actually try some trickster once that goes live

[spring bough]

It’s been fun. I was doing some gate yesterday. But somehow I play better as trick idk lol

Having a diff kinda rotation focusing on KS/coup is a nice change up from just ramping crack all the time

[blazing copper]

How much aproximately people put comission to craft algari dagger? i havent logged in a year

[spring bough]

Couple Gs of gold usually good

[outer sky]

Have you tried playing with the other node? I massively prefer it. It makes all of the constant, oppressive slows in this game so much more tolerable

[quaint cedar]

Not yet actually. I keep meaning to try it and forget about it. How's the uptime on it? It depends on coin streaks I think right?

[spring bough]

2 streaks

So it should be up pretty often

[outer sky]

Yeah but it has around 70% uptime give or take

[spring bough]

Mages out here are immobilizing us

[quaint cedar]

I keep regretting not taking it against assa, fmage, and DKs especially. Those slows are so oppressive

70% sounds really good yeah

[spring bough]

Have yall been trying to just slam healers?

[quaint cedar]

I'll have to try that

[spring bough]

Found that’s a good bet the last two days lol. Just train heals and cleave

Leave flurry up and rip lol

[candid tide]

im pondering if to put shadowduel bind on S for inhuman reaction

[azure rapids]

what are !Stats for Outlaw,information out there is also saying mastery,do we need mastery?

[potent pivot]

what information

[azure rapids]

i saw in chat people saying that Outlaw needs like 29 30% mastery ?

[potent pivot]

oh boy

i don't think anyone said that

[azure rapids]

ohh cool 😄

[potent pivot]

i think Sinnen talked about what he had

not what is needed

[azure rapids]

so it`s just missread from 😄

thanks 😄

[potent pivot]

you want 10-15% haste > crit/vers

having a little mastery is ok, but you don't need a lot at all

[azure rapids]

great! thanks for the info 😄

[potent pivot]

rn most people are geared for sub/assa so they have a lot of mastery

idk why Sinnen has mastery but he kinda does his own thing

[spring bough]

Been blasting for me had a 195k MG crit last night avg 100k on the crits. I keep going back n forth between mastery and crit

Scaling feels weird on it idk. Around 23% it’s about 60-70ks and 10% more doubles that

[potent pivot]

crit is just better over all

[rotund pumice]

Meld for me 😅

[azure rapids]

i have this right now

[halcyon timber]

The damn PNN continues as always

[spring bough]

Probably is. But I keep checking the overall crit %s and it doesn’t seem to change much. Gonna keep doing it back n forth lol

[potent pivot]

crit % will always be proper according to the crit you have

nothing will change with that except slight variance

[candid tide]

its good too for meld idd, only risky part is u dont wanna accidently press it

[warped gate]

Maaan, I just gave up on listening to what people are saying, I’m just stacking a fuckton of Versatility, Crit secondary; and just hoping that when everything is min-max’d that I didn’t waste too much Conquest.

[halcyon timber]

How dare you think for yourself sir

[stoic spruce]

I mean

He ain't wrong lol

[lime oar]

Been asked before but I forgot, do u need tier 3 mats for embellishments

[heady swift]

Nope, everything can be t1, except enchants and gems

[safe pelican]

How we looking on them 1 week ratings boyz ?? Pushed up to 1450 last night yall getting sweaty up here yall need to go touch some grass 🙂‍↔️🤣

1600 today or bust

[heady swift]

You are only lowering recipe diff for crafters when using T3 materials (and paying more)

[heady swift]

Weekend push for me

[safe pelican]

Yea this weekend will be hectic for sure hype can’t wait let’s gooooooo

https://tenor.com/view/lets-go-gif-drake-gif-26307972

[warped gate]

It’s not that I’m trying to be unique or a trailblazer, it’s just that there’s no concrete info out and some of it just straight contradicts each other.

[jolly sierra]

i have the fkn job and i wanna quit at day 1-3 after joining, but will push when im out

[halcyon timber]

Just do what you want and make tweaks.

[jolly sierra]

imagine how after 3 days i wanna leave and even more after i received this at second one after joining

[halcyon timber]

If it makes sense and does well then yeah

[potent pivot]

no one 'reputable' has really geared outlaw yet man, so you kinda have to think for yourself

sorry :/

[jolly sierra]

but atm i would just blitz

[halcyon timber]

These lockers come straight from the game of outlast

[last jasper]

Dafuq is this?

[last jasper]

Silent hill cosplay

[jolly sierra]

the fkn locker which belong to me for this month

[warped gate]

I tried looking at some geared Outlaws from last expansion and those dudes are on other specs.

Sad days.

Meme spec.

Meme life.

[potent pivot]

yeah pretty much all the top guys are gearing sub/assa rogues first

[last jasper]

Looks secure

[jolly sierra]

a lot, and ppl here is even more trash than the locker

[halcyon timber]

You put a meatloaf in there and it would turn to the thing

[jolly sierra]

imagine how tf is the job than i wanna quit after 3 days

[last jasper]

I can imagine, mate

[heady swift]

Seen Trimaz play Outlaw, he is pretty dang good (or was no idea)

[potent pivot]

naw Trimaz is insane

seems like good peeps too

[rain crown]

I feel like they should remove most pvp nerfs at start of xpacs

and implement them again if needed

could def use that extra 7 percent healing

[potent pivot]

they did remove a lot of them

and lowered how much a bunch were

self healing is something they want gone

[rain crown]

arms war still hits like a noodle because every ms modifier is like 66 percent nerfed

[potent pivot]

they've been nerfing self healing in pvp for a while now

which imo is a good thing

they just need to put more attention on some classes

[rain crown]

well some specs still have alot

yea

[potent pivot]

hybrid specs should have more

like casting a heal on ww

but pure dps specs should not have insane self heals

[rain crown]

right

hybrid specs do just as much dps as pure dps

idk its wierd rn

random dps specs have tons of healing

aff for instance

[potent pivot]

i'm pretty sure aff and frost are both at the top of the nerf table

sub aff is insanity

sub just CCs the entire team to allow aff to free cast

[rain crown]

hoepfully dk and fury as well

[potent pivot]

UH dk dmg yeah

fury isn't as crazy anymore

[rain crown]

or at least adjust where unh damage is coming from

nerf dots buff something else

[potent pivot]

the dots are basically pad dmg

easily healable

[quaint cedar]

I did some yolo 3s last night with some buddies and the aff locks are just crazy rn

[potent pivot]

something else on UH needs nerf

[quaint cedar]

consistent 600k+ dps

[formal crystal]

as outlaw is the 5% stamina rly that good or can i go for tripple threat and flip in pvp? idk something about it really makes me wanna go it

[potent pivot]

i queue'd into a 3kxp aff/ww team this morning

it was............fun

[quaint cedar]

You definitely want stam talent, it is buffed in pvp

[rain crown]

@potent pivot i guess youre right, dots are generally top damage but when you look at dmg to each player its not that much

[potent pivot]

that's a tooltip error iirc

[formal crystal]

ah okayy

[potent pivot]

you still want it

but i don't think it's buffed in pvp

[rain crown]

mostly festering and doom

[formal crystal]

but is tripple threat not that good?

i feel like if u flip it its crazy no?

[quaint cedar]

the value in the tooltip is wrong, but it is buffed in pvp

it is 12%

instead of 5%

[potent pivot]

i can't even keep track of all the bugged tooltips

(apparently neither can blizzard)

[quaint cedar]

lol

would be nice if we had a way to see exactly how stuff works in pvp, but the tooltips are really inconsistent whether they show the correct pvp value or not

[wide peak]

Whats the best spec for pvp so far?

Arena*

[quaint cedar]

whatever you want to play, all 3 are strong

[potent pivot]

all 3

[quaint cedar]

sub might have a very slight edge

[wide peak]

Oh word?

[quaint cedar]

but they are all so close just play what you like

[inner yew]

So is sub affliction just free rating rn?

[potent pivot]

affliction anything is free rn

[wide peak]

I was wanting to main rogue hoping for both pvp and pve first time rogue as well. What do u guys recommend?

[potent pivot]

pve and pvp are really different

different gearing systems

i would say just mess around a bit on all 3 specs

pick the one you like the most

[formal crystal]

i can tell im not used to pvp on outlaw XD

[analog forge]

Is there a preferred order of purchase for conquest gear with the free weapons change?

[proven kayak]

It’s very funny that people in bgblitz quit after the first tf lose

[faint basin]

Im definitely doings omething wrong in arenas cuz I literally am justb eing chased down the entire time

[potent pivot]

I updated the gearing faq, there’s a link to it in the pins

[formal crystal]

is there any outlaw pvper that i can watch to learn more?

[analog forge]

just found it, thanks ❤️

[formal crystal]

i feel so lost in pvp outlaw haha

[quaint cedar]

Unfortunately most are playing sub/assa rn because they share gear, whereas outlaw gears differently so there's not many good resources atm

[potent pivot]

Right now not many streamers are playing it, but check out Kalvish and Triimaz

They stream on twitch and sometimes play outlaw

[quaint cedar]

Yeah Kalvish was playing it 2 days ago

[potent pivot]

Look up pve guides for basic rotation

And practice on training dummies a lot

[tawdry imp]

glad to see the stealth bugs aren't fixed

[potent pivot]

Outlaw is very much muscle memory button spamming

And hitting procs

[spring bough]

Outlaw is surgeon level skills 💀

[formal crystal]

yeah i leveled it through 1- 80 and feel quiet comfortable

[analog forge]

the amount of times ive been judged out of stealth makes me wanna break stuff 😄

[potent pivot]

Outlaw in pvp is another level

[formal crystal]

but going "melee" to use sinister striek to get more points to get between the eyes just feels like im getting os he

[formal crystal]

ye but so satisfying :D

[quaint cedar]

outlaw is much harder in pvp than pve

so fun though once you get it

[potent pivot]

I think that’s true for all specs but yeah

You need zoomer levels of awareness

[formal crystal]

but it goes pew pew

can it be more fun??

[plucky escarp]

I played two full shuffles just to realize I was in pve gear lol

[fallen scaffold]

just realized itd prob be smart to craft the honor daggers in vers/mast instead of the shitty crit it comes with

dur dur dur

[tawdry imp]

i'm gonna punch a fucking hole in my desk

how consistently can this dogshit game pull me out of stealth when there's some 1 tap class like an afflock running past 30 metres away

[spring bough]

Their bug takes us out at 100yards

[formal crystal]

!wa

[lethal roost]

Rogue WA's:
https://wago.io/weakauras/classes/rogue (Wago Rogue)

[formal crystal]

is it hard to fix ur own WA

[potent pivot]

Most people don’t use big WAs in pvp

And that depends on a lot of stuff

[faint basin]

is sub better than assa in pvp?

[formal crystal]

idk if its WA but like sounds etc

for procs and more

[potent pivot]

Depends. It’s like slightly better

Not enough to make a difference for 99% of people

[potent pivot]

Idk, if you can figure out exactly what it is try asking in #wow-general

There’s sometimes some addon/WA wizards that’ll answer

[formal crystal]

tyty

[faint basin]

which would be easier for a newer player to pvp

[potent pivot]

Probably assa

[tawdry imp]

can't see a universe in which assa wouldn't be easier

[spring bough]

Is the PTR out yet for this new patch?

[potent pivot]

Some stuff is NYI afaik

[spring bough]

Wanna see what this supercharged does for outlaw

[potent pivot]

solo doesn't seem too happy about it being on rtb

[quaint cedar]

I get teh feeling it's not worth the talent investment but we'll see

[potent pivot]

same

[stoic spruce]

I have updated my bios yet the pc won't post

[spring bough]

Yeah it was weird it’s on bones

I like the passive ER tho

But it being on a CDR ability is awesome

Maybe they should put it on BTE

With the reset of that on stealth that supercharge would have great uptime

[potent pivot]

sorta forces you to reroll even if you don't want to though

just to get value

[spring bough]

Yeah they should swap it to another CDR ability

[quaint cedar]

Yeah I don't love that aspect of it either

[spring bough]

Either like BTE or GS or something along those lines

[potent pivot]

GS would be too long i think

and bte they'd have to add some weird ICD shit

[spring bough]

Really no other 30-45s ability that it could go on then lol

Either bones or bte it seems like if they are trying to have it on an ability with under a min CD

[potent pivot]

seems like 25-30sec CD is the goal

[halcyon timber]

Agreed

[potent pivot]

and tbh

i don't think they can put it on GS or KS unless they make 1 of them baseline

[spring bough]

I have a gut feeling it won’t work with outlaw dropping alacrity and DS

It’s like what to take away. Vigor or that

And lethality too

[quaint cedar]

Yeah that's the other problem, we have no way to get it. We need double vanish and vigor

[spring bough]

Unless they change around the outlaw tree but so far we only got a flurry change lol. So I don’t see that happening

This is what I’ve always wanted back since we are pirates lol

[crimson torrent]

which conquest gear should i buy first

!stats

[lethal roost]

These are the recommended stat priorities for each spec in PvP. Please keep in mind that having suboptimal stats on some pieces such as tier set pieces is not the end of the world.

Subtlety: Vers>Mastery>Crit>Haste
Assassination: Vers>Mastery>Crit=/=Haste
Outlaw: Vers>Haste=/=Crit>Mastery
You likely want to stack at least 20% Haste on Outlaw for an extra GCD during ADR/Crackshot windows. Take 'em by Surprise gives you 10% during CS windows, so you only need 10-15% from gear.

[potent pivot]

check the pins for a link to the gear faq

[crimson torrent]

ok ty!

[indigo hill]

All those 500 bloody token quests seem a bit useless.

[jaunty spear]

guys, i bought 2 rings and a neck from conquest (cuz i wanna finish my sockets)
now the thing is i got 2 crit versa pieces and 1 mastery versa ring
i swapped to outlaw, should i go for gems/enchants that reduce my mastery and grant haste?

[jolly sierra]

never thought were capped

but seems like im leaning to big mast cloak w that for now

i was struggled af after checking them and was about to buy stuff

[jaunty spear]

also, can someone explain me how to craft gear with "Forged Gladiators Heraldry"?

i cant find any pieces on which i can use those

[potent pivot]

Algari

[jaunty spear]

oh

i c , ty

[potent pivot]

i would not waste gold on enchants for haste

you can play outlaw with subpar stats, it's not the end of the world

just fix it as you go

[vocal surge]

Making a new WA and made this for it

Boutta track my coin stacks with it

[potent pivot]

[spring bough]

Looking good

RIP pirate on trickster 🪦

[inland thorn]

!stats

[lethal roost]

These are the recommended stat priorities for each spec in PvP. Please keep in mind that having suboptimal stats on some pieces such as tier set pieces is not the end of the world.

Subtlety: Vers>Mastery>Crit>Haste
Assassination: Vers>Mastery>Crit=/=Haste
Outlaw: Vers>Haste=/=Crit>Mastery
You likely want to stack at least 20% Haste on Outlaw for an extra GCD during ADR/Crackshot windows. Take 'em by Surprise gives you 10% during CS windows, so you only need 10-15% from gear.

[vocal surge]

Aye

[vocal surge]

Fatebound for PvE, Trickster for PvP

Xd

[formal crystal]

rly? i got fatebound for pvp

and just spam between the eyes when it resets and flip tons of coins :p

ig it makes sense with the parry and all of that tho :p

[indigo hill]

They really need to remove ranged from paladin. Its already an incredibly simple spec.

[formal crystal]

what do we use these fotr

little confused about that heh

[potent pivot]

check the faq, link in the pins

[candid tide]

if timed well with death stalker stacks we can get a big ass evi when dancing

[potent pivot]

you have to place a crafting order for items

you can also choose to put your embellishments on those items

[potent pivot]

this should be the goal every Dance with Blades

[formal crystal]

tyty

[candid tide]

so i wonder if should make a aura for deathstalker and darkestnight now

[potent pivot]

nah

you just need it on nameplates

[indigo hill]

Which boots do we craft?

[potent pivot]

whatever stats for your spec

Algari with conquest level Heraldries

[indigo hill]

Does the quality of embellishments matter?

[potent pivot]

nope

[indigo hill]

And the missives?

[potent pivot]

none of the mats matter

the only thing that matters is enchants

[vocal surge]

Trickster for me far more interesting to play over Fatebound

[indigo hill]

What do you like more about trickster?

[vocal surge]

Fatebound is effectively Dragonflight 2.0 with no changes other than coin stacking which is super passive

For Trickster, I monitor my Escalating Blade so I can Coup people if they try to get away and knowing if I have +5 stacks of Flawless form means I will absolutely pop off

Killing Spree also means that I will very likely put down some serious pressure in the next few hits

[lime oar]

Sub doing double duskwoven thread? Didn’t look like they stacked when I looked at my buffs before I left for work

[potent pivot]

pretty sure the tooltip is just bugged

[jolly sierra]

it worked again

[outer sky]

when you get home check your actual stat value

[lime oar]

Will do

I was like oh hell nah

[tight veldt]

It's bugged in a weird way. I had both and only showed one and then I had to completely unequip the gear and re-equip for the tool tip to fix

[formal crystal]

probably gonna swap to that but i mean the gameplay itself is like no mechanic? its just that u use sinister strike more, no?

[potent pivot]

yeh it's acted strange since beta

[vocal surge]

You want to highly value CDR as Trickster Outlaw as much as possible because you want to send out as many Killing Sprees and Coups as possible

Just to get Unseen Blade procs to make your Sinister Strike hit as high as 700k

[swift garnet]

Which stats I need to use in pvp?

I know its versa

but idk the other one

[potent pivot]

!stats

[lethal roost]

These are the recommended stat priorities for each spec in PvP. Please keep in mind that having suboptimal stats on some pieces such as tier set pieces is not the end of the world.

Subtlety: Vers>Mastery>Crit>Haste
Assassination: Vers>Mastery>Crit=/=Haste
Outlaw: Vers>Haste=/=Crit>Mastery
You likely want to stack at least 20% Haste on Outlaw for an extra GCD during ADR/Crackshot windows. Take 'em by Surprise gives you 10% during CS windows, so you only need 10-15% from gear.

[formal crystal]

cpups? dumb it down for me a lil will you? :D

[potent pivot]

Coup de Grace - the Trickster capstone talent

[vocal surge]

^

Rn typing on phone while listening to college lecture

[formal crystal]

but you basically want to then use sinister once, killing spree into double sinister and finish moves no?

to proc it as much as possible?

just started reading the talents lol

[vocal surge]

Sinister Strike/Ambush every 20s, free Unseen Blade
Killing Spree (any combo point, pref max combo point for max damage output) gives 2 free Unseen Blade charges on SS/Ambush
Send Unseen Blades at enemy
4 Unseen Blades = Coup
Send Coup

[heady swift]

Hey maybe some people weren't wrong with playing vivacity and duskthread haha

[formal crystal]

feels more like a sinister strike / dispatch focused build rather than points / between the eyes am i right?

[potent pivot]

well it's always stacked, it's just the tooltip has been weird

and the buff would persist even if you removed the piece of gear

[vocal surge]

You can try a dispatcher build, they have similar results

[formal crystal]

is there any difference in " normal" talents? i just copied the one from pins lol

[vocal surge]

Just CDR and when you hit genuinely hard

Dispatcher builds slams people in dispatch

[formal crystal]

but say in arena, 2v2's

it would feel "difficult" to get the 4 stacks

kinda?

[vocal surge]

Yee

Talking about Unseen Blade procs?

[formal crystal]

yeah

u need them for coup de grace

[vocal surge]

It's easy

I get from 4 - 12 Unseen Blade procs within the minute

[formal crystal]

nahh not in 2v2s?

[vocal surge]

In 2v2s

And 3v3s

It's harder in 3s because more opponents = more CCs and Slows

[formal crystal]

but shouldnt tripple threat be good with trickster? idk since u use sinister strike a bit more

[outer sky]

lol

Imagine a UDK saying assa rogue needs to be nerfed rn

[formal crystal]

xd

[covert bison]

Full green pvp set, I have blood belt and cloak, pretty nervouse about buying the wrong conquest gear and crafting the wrong tier stuff lots of people are doing things differently. Arena is fun but I'm not doing any DMG. I feel like there is a faq somewhere but today I decided I needed to find a community because I just love sub rogue so much.

Hi all

I'm sub

[vocal surge]

I wish I could recommend Triple Threat if it didn't bug out so often and not do it's full effect

[outer sky]

buy the shoulders and turn them into tier

thats your first move

[covert bison]

For conquest or craft?

I have 2 sparks

[outer sky]

you dont need sparks to craft pvp gear

but conquest

[covert bison]

Whazz did should leg

[potent pivot]

check the faq linked in the pins

[outer sky]

the end result is the same

whether or buy for conq or craft

but crafting costs gold

so why waste it

buy the conq shoulders turn them into tier and you buy legs with the token you get from hitting 1600

[potent pivot]

i don't think you can even turn crafted gear into tier can you?

[rain crown]

what actually triggers calling all glad quest

[potent pivot]

i heard that somewhere idr where

[outer sky]

nope

[potent pivot]

the heraldry quest? win games

[formal crystal]

and do you even see when u've triggered coup de grace

[outer sky]

so buy with conq

[potent pivot]

it replaces dispatch

[formal crystal]

right but i dont have to really focus on that do i

[rain crown]

@potent pivot any idea how many?

ive gotten both the quest and the token at 1600 on my rogues

hit it on war just now and only got the token

[potent pivot]

1 BG or 4-6 arenas

[rain crown]

I have a feeling someone leaving my last one screwed it up

and didnt count it as a win

[formal crystal]

is there any big dif in dps in trickester and fb

or just we u enjoy

[vocal surge]

FB tickles from what I have fought

And I mean it really tickles

[formal crystal]

:

P

[vocal surge]

Everytime I see a Trickster Outlaw as an Outlaw, I try to prevent em from playimg

Because I know they hurt when their rotation goes smoothly

I've had a Fatebound Outlaw beat on me for 30s straight to drop me to 20%

But the moment I was given the opportunity to strike back

In 6s I 100% to 10% him

[forest compass]

HI

[vocal surge]

Yo

[forest compass]

what is secondary stat for sub pvp

mastery/

?

[dawn lion]

versa mastery no1

then crit

[forest compass]

what pices i shoudl get for blody tokens?

[fervent shell]

pieces that don't have haste

[forest compass]

wrist belt?

[formal crystal]

outlaw haste > crit > mastery right

[candid tide]

omg fix combat bugs pls

[formal crystal]

found it :)

[outer sky]

haste to 15% then everything else becomes better

and so far we think it's pretty equal to crit between 10 and 15%

[formal crystal]

honestly why is haste even that good

energy regen is kinda fake

its the atsp?

[crimson torrent]

@potent pivot if i got shoulder then to the catalyst isnt that a waste if im more pve focused?

[weak comet]

How are you guys dealing with these zug zug melee classes As a rogue?

[vocal surge]

For Adrenaline Rush to allow for max GCD usage

[snow valley]

is bis crafting embellishments still 2 dusk and not 1 on dagger

[last jasper]

is this bugged or?

[formal crystal]

fair

and about the tier set? which one do we go for first or how does that work

[candid tide]

talk mechanics all this gear aint make a diff

[formal crystal]

(checking faq rn )

[candid tide]

open fast blind healer do insane dmg on target

if healer trinkets shadow duel the target

if targets walls, switch to other dps

[formal crystal]

"This week we should be buying Conquest shoulders and using the Catalyst to turn them into tier. Then using the free tier token from reaching 1.6k rating on tier legs."

im just curious, why not use the free tier token on the most expensive part? like chest?

and why does it even matter which tier piece we buy first :p

[candid tide]

just copy one of them r1 imo lol

either kalvish whaazz or nahj

[formal crystal]

where can i see that :)

[candid tide]

i dm better

[tight veldt]

Legs and chest cost the same

[formal crystal]

fair enough, im just curious why it matters which ones we buy :p i mean eventually we r gonna get them all, no?

[humble sequoia]

what's best spec for 2v2 arena together with a frost mage?

[outer sky]

sub

[formal crystal]

best spec is the one you enjoy the most, so u dont stop playing :p

[humble sequoia]

yeah true i guess

[formal crystal]

outlaw is sus in pvp i feel like but i enjoy it so much

[surreal barn]

When making the pvp gem do I need to get rank 3 everything

Or is it money saving time

[last jasper]

You need max rank gems

[outer sky]

Playing against walking dead just now, pres evoker used commune and time dial in the 1st 10 seconds of the game while monk and DK still had everything. It's so obvious to me that the evoker is now the kill target I didnt' even bother to stop and type it. Next thing I know my deathmark is insta sheeped off along with all my other bleeds

Like how do you not see that

in what world do we hit anything but the healer

no commune

no time dial

evoker

he just dies in a cheap shot at that point

[candid tide]

ive made progress today

i looked at arena frames for dr : D

[last jasper]

Low rating players

[candid tide]

agree and in solo low rating they chain spam their defensive like a mofo

gotta open ur eyes

[outer sky]

this was real 3s

[candid tide]

and just fk em up

[last jasper]

Who can tell is lingering bugged or it’s just a tooltip?

this shit is crazzy

[spring bough]

Mine popped in 5 min 😭

So I put /bye and macrod it to haymaker. Got some dude soooooo mad 😂

“Only five year olds do that” 😂

Todays the day rival in blitz get this OG grand Marshall set

[halcyon timber]

“Hur hurr me ice lance me no think hur hur. “ - warrior school of mage featuring professor unga bunga

[twin burrow]

are people staying algari dagger for the embellish or are they going to use the pvp dagger from conquest quest

[halcyon timber]

Dunno, test with and without on pvp dummy to know for sure.

[outer sky]

I still cannot believe we lost that game

[halcyon timber]

That sucks man

[outer sky]

There was a second where I thought they were throwing to drop MMR then I remembered its the start of the season

[surreal barn]

We still using shadowed belt clasp right

From DF

[outer sky]

you cant

[halcyon timber]

Is there a new one?

[outer sky]

?

[surreal barn]

Weird how plainsrunners breeze worked

[halcyon timber]

Edited as auto correct on my phone did its terrorist job as usual

Is there a new belt clasp?

[outer sky]

there is no belt enchant

[halcyon timber]

Cool. Didn’t think to look for it on ah.

Leg armor kit has stamina anyway iirc

[candid tide]

k ive made some progress today
goals for tomorrow is:
watch cooldowns
watch healer cast
watch arena frames dr

[stoic spruce]

Way too many blue names

A wall of blue

Can't have that

[halcyon timber]

Way too many popos poopin in the chatto

[stoic spruce]

That's u

Under the rock

[spring bough]

Outlaw >>>

[halcyon timber]

Hek kek

[stoic spruce]

I have to upgrade my psu before I can use my new cpu

[halcyon timber]

Ever had dr pepper twizzlers?

[stoic spruce]

No

Wtf is that

Sounds sucky

Oh

[halcyon timber]

Just twizzlers that taste like Dr Pepper

[stoic spruce]

The mystery flavored twinkies are just red twizzlers

[halcyon timber]

Lol

[stoic spruce]

They're very good tho

[spring bough]

So I just tried out my 33% mastery in a BG 😂

MG going BRRRRTTTTTT

those my stats without pvp ilvl

[halcyon timber]

Dang 250k hits

[spring bough]

At pvp ilvl it’s 12% crit 26% haste in stealth 27% verse and 33% mastery lol

[shut nova]

Yo guys, what's up? what's the best reputation pvp for a subtlety rogue?

i want to start the grind

[reef rapids]

Eya fellas ^^
Question: Is the tier set worth going for as assassination or is it not worth`?

[hybrid sapphire]

does crimson tempest ignore CC? would it break a polymorph right next to my target?

[halcyon timber]

Wait to see more of the assassins talk to get clarification. They can steer you in the right direction. Trickz is updating a recommended list as he gets to it as well.

[halcyon timber]

Anything that taps a polymorph will break it (as intended)

[hybrid sapphire]

having crimson tempest in the assa build seems like a huge liability no

i mean i guess i just... dont use it in those contexts

but is that talent point better elsewhere if this is the case?

[halcyon timber]

Wouldn’t know, talk to them when they pop around though for sure. (Honestly)

[hybrid sapphire]

seems true for this too

[orchid plinth]

Assa don't think too much!! Bleed top Details!!

[hybrid sapphire]

is fatebound largely disfavored in all cases?

[spring bough]

Anomaly if you’re in here I’m so sorry for what happened in that solo 😂

[inner yew]

Is crafting PvP gear pretty easy?

[hollow carbon]

Indiscriminate Carnage doesn’t copy bleeds on targets which are CCd with sap, poly or similar CCs.

And you play crimson tempest since it does a lot of dmg and assas win condition is multi pressuring currently. If you play with a mage you can opt out of it maybe, but it’s worth to press on 2+targets

[hybrid sapphire]

i see, makes sense

[devout lily]

Has anyone gotten the supercharger to work on PTR? (edit: it worked for assa, but not for sub for me)

[surreal barn]

Which rep is best to target first

[spring bough]

this is what outlaw can do to healers. if my monk went him off the go it woulda been a fast match. i wasted my interrupt on a penance and missed the ultimate penance lol

Sub rogue is already 2370 in rated blitz

How 😂

[last jasper]

Is this hdr or why it so washed out?

[spring bough]

HDR. Doesn’t look like that on my end haven’t figured that out yet

[sharp estuary]

ill just take a que for rated blitz sheesh

[spring bough]

On an ultra wide too lol

Rated blitz rating is climbing faster than it did preseason lol

[candid tide]

nerf furry wars

[last jasper]

it super washed out, man. mine is oversaturated

[spring bough]

Just how it records. I’ll have to mess w that setting next time on clipchamp

Just met a Kul Tiran sin rogue

[last jasper]

haven't checked recordings yey, but screenshots are fcked with hdr. and its just windows 😄

[spring bough]

I think blitz rating is bugged lol. Got almost 100 rating at 1450 when preseason it was giving like 10 around that rating

[reef rapids]

aiit ty ty ^^

[spring bough]

Either that or they increased the rating each win gives lol

[lime oar]

10 is abysmal gains for 1450

[spring bough]

That is what it was during prepatch. Kinda surprised how much I just got

just cleaved a ret and fury

dead same time in a solo

[queen grail]

how do i gt the quest for the 9 token craft

[last jasper]

idk, i won 10 straight. one game 1.8, next is 1.6

can you recraft honor gear to higher ilvl later?

[lime oar]

Yes

[wintry dew]

EU servers kinda fucked up

careful with the queues boys

[last jasper]

wdym?

[queen grail]

first game and a guy told me i wouldn tmeet him irl to fight

[indigo lava]

Guys i hit the 1.6k raiting

[queen grail]

chat why are pvpers so crazy

[indigo lava]

Now i have a problem with the vendor at severed threads

Any idea how can i solve it ?

My reputation with their npc’s is 0

[candid tide]

double dragon dk seems to the new comp

whaazz is struggling vs them on stream rn

[candid tide]

cause middle school

[wraith harness]

No i mean binding each ability 3 times for each target, not that many abilities imo

[candid tide]

use both a123 and focus

focus should be on healer

[spring bough]

Once I got past 1500 in blitz… 9 rating for my last win lol

[candid tide]

after u get used with focus then ull find openings here and there to get in a a123 cc

and slowly get used to it

[surreal barn]

Depends a lot on the mmr of the team you’re facing

Range is wider than what we normally get in shuffle

[hexed pewter]

is there a training dummy that i can sap? i have to learn how to controll the offtarget

[spring bough]

The next teams almost a 100 MMR below mine now 🤦‍♂️

[surreal barn]

Better not lose lol

[spring bough]

Got AB. Going to LM for some haymakers

[topaz bobcat]

Rogue VERY strong

they are already nerfing set bonuses in next big patch, evoker down

[covert bison]

anyone wanna play some 2s and help a brother out learning sub?

or duel

[topaz bobcat]

which of my 2 addons are doing this and which is easier to change? one must be betterblizplates other elvUI? I don't even have bigdebuffs active

[peak jolt]

Can you upgrade blue competitor gear up to epic? Or do you have to craft them again?

(if you created the blue ones)

[spring bough]

Elvui has plater type nameplates could be it

The other is deff the betterblizzplates

[topaz bobcat]

i disabled elvui namesplates I don't know if the buffs/debuffs is separate.

There is a buffs/debuffs but that seems to the top right next to map list

[twin burrow]

can you uoprade blue heraldrys to epic heraldys

[wise breach]

Yes

[twin burrow]

how so

[wise breach]

Maybe I misunderstood the question

You can recraft gear you crafted with blue heraldries and replace them with the epic ones

[twin burrow]

ok

[tender ember]

played some assa/frost rmp @eu 1,9-2k mmr (lots of glads atm on this rating). Ascendance embelish/writching armor embelihments, 0 enchants, no tier set. For me kinda fatebound is the way cos of double shs, its so powerfull when comes to play cos u can cc healer/spread dots and get back to where u do most dmg

a lot more mobility which is op

gonna provide some data on uptime for embelishments

later

[neat dove]

wasnt there some bot command for a list of stealth bugs?

i kinda find it

found it

[tender ember]

all ascensions tooltip shows as versa, not sure if bug since it should be random stat

and idk how to count this- if it should be added to each other

game was 3:22, with adding its above 3 mins so kinda if thats right, this buff was perma

[rapid bear]

guys one question, will be the rogue sub a good choice in pvp? thankss

[lucid citrus]

all specs are good right now

[spring bough]

all you need is to steal one cap in valley and u win as rogue

Whole team just left I walked in capped sapped to spin till we won lol

[versed trellis]

how are we gearing yall? Is there a resource anywhere for craft/bloody tokens/conquest?

[dull bridge]

i will never shittalk fatebound again

[surreal barn]

They be sitting on those stealth detect nodes on flag maps higher up though

Gl being sneaky

[neat dove]

anyone got a gladius without lua errors? im using the bicmex version

[neat dove]

depends on spec

[analog forge]

How are we meant to play arena when we get judged or ice lanced out of stealth still. It's ridiculous 😦

Literally at the other side of the arena behind a pillar and stealth is breaking

[lime oar]

Just do it

[neat dove]

for sub its something like this (personally not gonna craft dagger)

[spring bough]

Too many non rogue night elf’s using meld lol

[spring bough]

solo lobby overall. where my fatebound outlaw at. try this trick stuff its pretty nice. 1.3m avg on the KS lol

[stoic spruce]

build?

[spring bough]

CQQA27SZpS4XnmFfcXRqkppuwDAMDGGzMDmZGmhxYGzMjZmptZMLzAAAAAAgtthZ8AzMzswMLjBAAAgZmZgBz2sZmZGNzsxsxy20CbGA

20.5 crit / 25.8 haste/ 27 verse / 20 mastery think i found what i like w the stats lol (in stealth)

might swap imp MG for triple threat see if i get more blade procs

[stoic spruce]

this is just

a regular build

lol

theres no spunk

one sec

a mans build

I just made that up idk

[spring bough]

what u think i had something super secret LOL

the secret is trickster lol

[stoic spruce]

I will make kir work

[spring bough]

GL with 18% haste unbuffed lol

[stoic spruce]

well I dont need vigor now

so those points can go elsewhere

[tender ember]

would be also nice to cover what lvl of pvp this was scored, cos some spec might be good vs low xp ppl and complete dog higher

[spring bough]

1900 in solo

so im playing against pretty good players i think lol

[surreal barn]

That feeling when you get a bloodstone in your box

[spring bough]

you sub rogues cant kill outside of shadow duel

and i hate yall when u do it

shdow duel sucks ass

sub rogue did 5 dmg and then every duel he killed some1

[somber plank]

i do 4 dmg and can't kill with shadow duel

[spring bough]

bro every time this rogue hit it he would do like 6 mil

monk went in duel at 90% dead

i went into duel at 95% dead

[potent pivot]

It gives all 4 stats at random. It’s bad.

[snow schooner]

still dusk thread boots

[rain crown]

do you guys know if you need a 3rd tier embelishment or it doesnt matter

[potent pivot]

doesn't matter

[rain crown]

ty

[spring bough]

Mages need an immediate nerf for roots

Crossing wsg is the hardest battle lmao

[vague comet]

yoo @potent pivot any updates about what to spend remaining conq on?

[surreal barn]

i like it with the frenzied incarnate legwraps better than the ones it came with

[potent pivot]

I updated the gearing faq but for your 2nd conq piece you kinda have to make a decision, because it can be different depending on your spec

[vague comet]

maybe im blind but i cant find it in faq 😦

[potent pivot]

yeah i didn't mention 2nd conq piece

because it varies

sub buys badge

[vague comet]

im still on the edge regarding the spec

[potent pivot]

assa/outlaw prolly buy a main piece to turn into tier later

like chest or something

[vague comet]

I'm playing Sub on korean server, holy fuck im malding at people not hitting my targets in solo

assa on NA

[outer sky]

it' not that they "cant" it's more like, why not go for the kill in the safest window possible?

[outer sky]

so we decided to run tier as outlaw?

[potent pivot]

no

main piece is just safe because you have the option

[outer sky]

gotcha

[potent pivot]

just asked nahj about ascension

seems to agree that since vanish resets your stacks versa is better

[outer sky]

RIP me I'm in an RBG against Weedtyler rn

[old brook]

he running solo or w another rogue

[outer sky]

solo

[old brook]

where dace rip

[vague comet]

so sub or assa? xD

[potent pivot]

wdym

[vague comet]

i mean I gotta choose what to main and get items for it

torn in between those two

[potent pivot]

it's not going to matter in the end

in a few weeks we'll be fully geared

if you wanna play both just buy the badge

using badge on assa isn't terrible

but you def want it for sub rn

[old brook]

anyone happen to know why ruffious isn't offering me the sparks/bloody token quest..?

[potent pivot]

it's weekly

you didn't get it after reset?

[old brook]

nope 😦

wondering if not finishing up the campaign is causing it

[potent pivot]

he had 3 quests this week

oh

lol

you haven't finished the leveling campaign?

[old brook]

nah lmao

[potent pivot]

bruh

you have to

[old brook]

probably causing it right? sheesh. i blazed through dungeons to cap lol

[potent pivot]

you don't get WQs or weeklies until you finish it on 1 character

[old brook]

oof

[potent pivot]

so you're missing out on wpvp WQs and weeklies

[old brook]

appreciate ya, gotta do that now lmao

[topaz delta]

so buy belt/cloak or belt/bracers with bloody tokens (as sub)?

[potent pivot]

belt/cloak

[topaz delta]

❤️

do we need a certain haste % or just all mastery pieces when possible

[potent pivot]

!stats

[lethal roost]

These are the recommended stat priorities for each spec in PvP. Please keep in mind that having suboptimal stats on some pieces such as tier set pieces is not the end of the world.

Subtlety: Vers>Mastery>Crit>Haste
Assassination: Vers>Mastery>Crit=/=Haste
Outlaw: Vers>Haste=/=Crit>Mastery
You likely want to stack at least 20% Haste on Outlaw for an extra GCD during ADR/Crackshot windows. Take 'em by Surprise gives you 10% during CS windows, so you only need 10-15% from gear.

[potent pivot]

as sub you want 0% haste

unless it's forced on you by a tier piece

[topaz delta]

could be mixin up knowledge with WW ><

[potent pivot]

outlaw wants a certain % haste as well

[spring bough]

Love a warr training an spriest instead of an ez kill on a mage 🤦‍♂️

Brother got frost fire bolted for like 900k KB

[halcyon timber]

Had a warrior get run over by a lock while im cc’bot bc no one can be bothered to do any cc

Straight up zug man

[jolly sierra]

ME WARRIOR ME SMASH ME LEAP TO WEAK CHURCH PERSON IN LONG CLOTHES

[halcyon timber]

Dk chains root is supremely irritating atm too

[potent pivot]

That’s like the best thing you can do with a lock

Cc bot for him lmao

[jolly sierra]

WHY FEEL SO COLD

[halcyon timber]

Lol weak church person in clothes

[jolly sierra]

long
clothes

[halcyon timber]

No no the warr died on my team

[potent pivot]

Ohh

[halcyon timber]

No interrupts no thinkin

[jolly sierra]

neither a shockwave?

warriors are expert in throwing random ccs

[halcyon timber]

Warriors pep talking into being apes

Didn’t do shit

[jolly sierra]

but warriors are apes

[halcyon timber]

But bet your ass not on my team blows all cc into me each time

And lock dies

[halcyon timber]

Yeh meant that. Dang multitasking

[waxen meteor]

damn, started 3:0 then dc :(((((

did two lobbies in a row with mage/lock/war lol

[spring bough]

I whispered the dude was like “maybe mage next time?” Get an instant stfu 😂

[jolly sierra]

XDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD

ME ANGY LEV ME ALON

[spring bough]

I probably got reported for suggesting to go mage lmao

[jolly sierra]

lol

[spring bough]

Yall been blitzing??

I’m loving some of these maps how a rogue can change it for a win lol

[jolly sierra]

no time dude

im only into dailies

[waxen meteor]

i did two blitzing

[spring bough]

What’s that

Where our sub rogues at lol

Bros already elite 😂

[vague comet]

how do people make gems? craft orders?

[potent pivot]

you buy gems off the AH

you buy socketing items from pvp vendors

[waxen meteor]

direct to AH door

[vague comet]

oh

got ya ty

[jolly sierra]

dailies like first skirmish of the day+

[halcyon timber]

Yeah did a few. Stole 6 flags and friggin team threw trying to monkey hump it at farm and threw it.

Blitz is a lot of fun for sure

Bloodstones climbed even higher on ah 13.5k

[spring bough]

Up to 3/9 sockets

[hidden moth]

So ass opener, ambush, garrote, rupture, snd, cheap shot, shiv, mutilate kidney, mutilate mutilate envenom?

[spring bough]

Coup hitting for a milly with crits 😂

[potent pivot]

Depends on what you’re opening on

You usually want to start with garrote bare minimum, if not cheap->garrote

You should try to never kidney after cheap shot

Wasting kidney into a stun DR is bad

[potent pivot]

They peaked at like 16 or 18k at one point

[steep kiln]

comp stomp paid off. made a killing selling them the last 2 days

[hidden moth]

Kidney is on stun dr?

I thought it wasn’t supposed to be?

Like cheap shot, kidney crisp 10 second stun burst window, also why you never trinket cheap shot

I could be thinking ye olden days though

[potent pivot]

Yes cheap and kidney are both stuns

[hidden moth]

So like, open with cheap, ambush rupture, snd into garrote for the silence after stun

Then step heals for kidney shot

[potent pivot]

No

[hidden moth]

Yeah, I’m used to classic arenas, bc while they are stuns kidney didn’t dr with anything so a full cheap into full kidney was 4 second into 6 second stun

[potent pivot]

You want to gar asap

And even double gar for longer duration

Then rupture and ambush

[hidden moth]

So how would your opener go? Ideally

[potent pivot]

Cheap-gar-gar-rupture-cheap-ambush iirc

[hidden moth]

Ik no plan survives contact with the enemy but for the sake of teaching

[potent pivot]

You can cheap-gar-ambush-rupture as well

[hidden moth]

Assume you would sap heal, then open on full sap or would u sit triple sap heal

[potent pivot]

Just depends on positioning

But usually just the full sap

[hidden moth]

Positioning and pressure

Like heal behind pillar or cross map and there is pressure for a kill just to keep him over there

[potent pivot]

You’re not going to win in the opener like 99% of the time

[hidden moth]

Do you insta step heal for kidney after the sap or do you let ur other dps cc off the sap

[potent pivot]

Just depends

PvP is very situational

[hidden moth]

Fair, I keep trying to find guide vids and everything but nothing for ass rogue is on YouTube

[potent pivot]

The game changes a lot every expansion

[hidden moth]

Makes sense

Also any tips for restelths or is that only going to happen if you have cloak

For dot removal

[potent pivot]

You just use vanish/meld for restealths and more impowered aoe garrotes etc

[terse bolt]

a rogue had 2/4 tier set, how did he get his second charge ?

[lucid citrus]

you get a free tier piece when you get 1600 in any rating

[terse bolt]

duuuuude, i won 3 rbgs and barely made it 400 cr

fml xd

time for 2s

[lucid citrus]

yeah each win in rbgs give you around 192 rating but once you hit 1500 rating, each wins will only get you 20 rating

[terse bolt]

30 mins Q for 20 rating

kekw

[jolly sierra]

https://www.wowhead.com/news/earn-exclusive-tabards-with-trolli-purchases-from-walgreens-circle-k-and-dollar-346633#comments

dude this is dumb

[potent pivot]

[jolly sierra]

(can u buy me something to get the red 1 pls lol ty)

but is still dumb dude

imagine hispanics or brazillians try to get it in NA

[hidden moth]

Easier in solo shuff, I was 1800 day 2 on the priest

[outer sky]

So

Maybe I'm just a noob

I was just in an SS

vs a frost mage

WW monk on my team agreed theres no way we can connect to that mage

he says "just CC him"

how exactly do I CC him if I cant connect to him

[potent pivot]

[terse bolt]

you walk after him

hoping to scare him enough to stop his cast

[outer sky]

evevn if I pre-build a kidney

i need 1 step to get to him

and 1 to get back so I dont waste the whole kidney

and I havent even CCd the healer yet

and there goes both my steps

[terse bolt]

i know the pain hence why i dont play SS

i have to do all the cc most of the time specially in low rating while climbing

and this means barely do dmg

[lusty wyvern]

hi all for sin rogue is opening cheap > ambush > garrote nowadays

havent played in a while

[outer sky]

depends on what youre opening on

usually we do cheap>garrote>garrote>rupture>cheap>ambush

but if you open on a mage you want to Garrote>Cheap>Garrote>Rupture>Ambush>Cheap

[lusty wyvern]

do you not do ambush first for the new talent thing?

[outer sky]

as long as you press it at some point during your 6s subterfuge window after opening from stealth you get the effect

[lusty wyvern]

ah i see

ty thats helpful

[somber plank]

how come double garrotte? because of IC?

[lusty wyvern]

refreshes the high dmg i think

[outer sky]

it extends the duration of your empowered garrote

[somber plank]

Ah okay

Yeah I saw thats what to do as the opener so that's what I've been doing

but always wondered why

thank u now I know

[outer sky]

thats what they pay me for

and my advice is worth every penny they pay me

[potent pivot]

(0 pennies)

[somber plank]

I give you the best currency known to man

my respect and admiration

[lusty wyvern]

what do u guys do against mage rogue as sin healer? in the opening

other than trying to sap the stealthed rogue

[outer sky]

depends on what your healer is

[lusty wyvern]

disc priest

or even just any general advice on what to do as the rogue

im not very good at playing against mage rogue

esp in opener

[potent pivot]

https://www.twitch.tv/pikabooirl/clip/DaintySincereBorkPraiseIt-pqgVKQbZgOCp837e

[potent pivot]

in general pvp just requires a lot of practice

what you do in the opener can be different depending on what you're facing

usually you want to get a sap on something, then stun something else and get some dmg rolling

but pvp is very situational

[lusty wyvern]

yeah i get that but whats the general strat against mage rogue, cuz if i open mage the rogue just opens me and mage sheeps my healer

is it betterto wait for their rogue or be offensive on the mage

[outer sky]

you have to hope they make a mistake and capitalize on it

if RM plays perfectly they never lose

[terse bolt]

i was raging trying to figure out why i dealt no dps

neither did i have energy

lost 5/6 games

only to realise i changed talents and had no poisons on

i am so mad now

[potent pivot]

get a poison WA lmao

[terse bolt]

worst part is

i vanished put poisons on and next go won the game

[fading sun]

is the blood token cap like the crests and goes up each week?

[scenic pawn]

Any advice on what gear to craft this early on as Assassin ? I have the 2 sparks sitting there but I have no idea what I should get made, seeing as we can get weapons for free in a couple of weeks.

[somber plank]

I giggled at this as my SS game was starting up, and then immediately realised when the gates opened that I was also still on my Delves build hahahahah

[terse bolt]

at least i saved someone

[somber plank]

Good thing that one round I had the wrong build on, we insta won so nobody noticed my fuckup

Can someone explain how a feral can 100-0 a DK in like 3 seconds btw

[terse bolt]

DK was scratching his balls with wrong hand

[outer sky]

they dont have cheap shot so theyre allowed to do damage

[somber plank]

like straight up I sprinted in, sapped priest, "went oh fuck wrong build" and literally the round was over

[outer sky]

lmfao

went 1-5 and hes so salty

he thinks I'm a glad though so i'll take it as a compliment

[terse bolt]

"oh he has the glad mount, surely i will win now"

[somber plank]

Ah yes, the cure to a bad round of SS

I should've done that when I went 0-6 first game of the day

[outer sky]

ive been spamming 3-3 in my queues lately

[terse bolt]

i would take 3-3 anytime now

still havent had a Q after my 1-5 without poisons

[somber plank]

yeah no dubs today

0-6 and then nothing but draws

for 5 rounds straight

[terse bolt]

q popped

accept it!

into lock + frost mage

kill me!

[somber plank]

https://tenor.com/view/dancing-coffin-coffin-dance-funeral-funny-farewell-gif-16737844

[outer sky]

that dark pact shield thing they have needs a longer CD

[terse bolt]

Lol we won

i killed the lock

POOOOOOGGERS

[outer sky]

I just did a 5-1 in a frost mage lobby

[somber plank]

Holy crap you're right about dark pact

[outer sky]

yeah if they use it at high hp it's basically a personal life cocoon they can use while stunned

[indigo hill]

Think everyone is fotm frost mage now and only a handful know how to play them.

[outer sky]

In my last SS

It was me, my healer, and a feral

vs Hpal, Frost mage, Fury warr

and the healer wanted us to go mage xDDD

imagine an assa rogue and a feral

trying to kill a frost mage

through 2 blocks, alter, 2 BoPs, sac, and intervene

[wintry dew]

@potent pivot today is the day

3 days of queuing shuffle

Once I finish this task called work ofc

[loud ember]

I should do shuffle at some point too

I just hit that 3s got 1.8k and that

[wintry dew]

That's all I want yeah 1800 and call it a season

[potent pivot]

[outer sky]

im playing assa affi 3s rn lol

this shit is so troll

everyone just dies in the first 10s

[wintry dew]

Meanwhile I just hope I'm not rusty enough to fail miserably

I'm going in full honor gear and wpvp dagger and that's more than enough

[wintry dew]

The build in the pins (no kb spread bleeds) is optimal for 3s/shuffle correct?

[livid cipher]

was there actually, my main got banned for "cheats" but like, lol? I remember doing that crafting order quest for those satchels on 50 chars for the bags of storm dust

but like

[potent pivot]

that quest wasn't a reason for the bans

[livid cipher]

does anyone know what it was because I was literally playing like 4 hrs ago, updated my pc and now its banned lul

[outer sky]

unless youre facing a comp you cant effectively cleave against, yes

[wintry dew]

Thanks, it will be shuffle so eventually that build will work

[turbid knoll]

Rogue SoD PvP question:
I saw perplexitys p4 pvp guide and saw that perp recommends 15 agi for main hand wep chain for offhand, i understand the wep chain for offhand but what is the reason behind the 15 agi main hand? i remember in classic +5 wep dmg was considered the best main hand enchant for daggers, also crusader is strong, any particular reason why 15 agi mh would be better?

[wintry dew]

This isn't a classic discord @turbid knoll

[turbid knoll]

ah my bad

[wintry dew]

We do have a #classic-discussion channel but

People rarely use it. Check the pins on that channel for other classic discord

[turbid knoll]

kk ty

[potent pivot]

Either are fine tbh

[wintry dew]

[potent pivot]

I’ve been trying to make badge/KB work

But it just tickles usually

[outer sky]

I have been too

[potent pivot]

Like

I want it to work so badly lmao

[outer sky]

me too lmfao

[potent pivot]

It just doesn’t

I think KB in the games that I’ve played it, has only made the difference in 1 win so far

[potent pivot]

Did you do anything that might be considered ToS?

If you actually didn’t, put in a ticket lol

[indigo hill]

Normally you get a ticket that tells you why. That's what I got when I got a forum ban.

[livid cipher]

ye i mean ofc i put in a ticket, but recently harldan got his main banned and hes still in CS limbo

[wintry dew]

Any tips for the start of this season? As in, what classes should I be more aware?

[livid cipher]

and hes popular so idk

[potent pivot]

Frost mage, MM, UH dk, fury

[last jasper]

Some popular streamers got banned for mass reports. Like xeek. I don’t think this is your situation

[outer sky]

also monk, evoker, priest, lock, druid, DH

[livid cipher]

yeh idk it said its for cheat/hacks so that has to be bullshit lol

gg then

all my shit gone lol

[potent pivot]

I don’t feel that worried about any of those

[outer sky]

dev scares me

[potent pivot]

ww has some scary burst

[last jasper]

Who’s playing sub rn? I’m struggle a bit with these death stalker stacks on my goes.

[potent pivot]

Just put in a ticket

Idk where you do that, I’ve never been banned

Prolly bnet

[worthy crag]

does sin use wound poison?

no right

[potent pivot]

Yes

[worthy crag]

so its not pve poison + shiv talent?

[last jasper]

@potent pivot have you done any special wq on any of timewalking alts recently?

The one that locked before you finish 3-4 wq

[potent pivot]

No