Kite’s LC Mods

[grand knot]

is rosie even interested in coming back?

i do see her online

quite frequently too

[idle bolt]

last I checked, busy

[grand knot]

expected

https://tenor.com/view/owl-puff-come-at-me-threat-gif-7746470

[fiery slate]

give me an example of where this happens, it's probably a one line fix

[idle bolt]

xu the boss swooping in XD

[fiery slate]

i see a lot of talk about it, and while people should just be updating, this is like literally just a one line fix as well, but it's probably a hardcoded one

[idle bolt]

mostly an issue on abandoned moons

[stiff helm]

Dreg

and all of Generic's Moons that have water

so Hydro, Vaporization, etc

[fiery slate]

do any of yall use anything that can link the waters together?

[stiff helm]

uuh wdym

[stiff helm]

yeah

I have the thread for it here btw #1433240431155613817 , so as no to flood this one

[fiery slate]

before i move on from the issue, i meant something that links all yall's waters together

like a gameobject name, material name, etc

[earnest pasture]

i do think is a transparency issue with assetbundles from the previous unity version

because wesley had problems with transparent materials (not only water)

[stiff helm]

no, we usually avoid having the same name as vanilla water for example so WaterAssetRestorer doesn't target it

[midnight sierra]

wait

black water

rdr2?

[dusky thistle]

Does zeranos also need an update?

[idle bolt]

its prob one of the moons that uses the most custom scripts

so yes

@stiff helm tested more

holy fuck

[stiff helm]

huh that looks odd

[idle bolt]

wtf, how did I miss Selen's release 2 months ago

[midnight sierra]

oh well uhh

[wheat prism]

last i checked Aquars water is just completely gone, not even black water

awenn come home

[stiff helm]

Yup, I reported that as well

[idle bolt]

Aquars?

which moon is that

[wheat prism]

Aquar by awenn

[analog bridge]

i know what that pfp is from

[grand knot]

[wheat prism]

hmmm, someone in the know

[analog bridge]

needless to say, artist is well cultured

[grand knot]

[midnight sierra]

a

[midnight sierra]

son 😭 😭 😭 😭 😭 😭 😭

[wheat prism]

Imprisoned

[midnight sierra]

my cruiser DIDN'T explode

[midnight sierra]

7510 Zeranos - v0.1.6 Update

Changelog: https://thunderstore.io/c/lethal-company/p/luakite/Zeranos_Moon/changelog

[main fjord]

YIPPEEEEE

finally i can reboot zeranos mansion

bless the lord 🙏

[grand knot]

@main fjord would you be interested in adding the mineshaft to it..

wait

shit i couldve gone to your thread

[main fjord]

that is already on the backburner

its working, but ill do it from the ground up, cuz bro the mines dont have the blue humming lights on mineshaft entrances

maybe cuz the project ripped incorrectly

[grand knot]

when did you rip it?

[main fjord]

would needa make a new project so that ill maybe get a clean v73 rip

[grand knot]

because im pretty sure the new ripper fixed that

[main fjord]

some versions ago, so yeah, ill prob rerip

im also playing with the idea of adding an apparatus to mineshaft/mansion

as i can rebundle the interior with new tiles

[grand knot]

ohhhhh..........

[main fjord]

i had a working appy tile on the mineshaft already

[grand knot]

peak

[main fjord]

lights also turn off

but the fuel didnt work correctly when using the apparatus

[grand knot]

through LLL?

[main fjord]

the mansion interior mod for zeranos i made is technically a new interior

im just reusing the vanilla mansion

[grand knot]

oh it just replaces the vanilla mansion?

[main fjord]

nah

[grand knot]

like how zeranos' facility does

oh

its a separate interior

[main fjord]

new interior with own configs

[grand knot]

ic ic

[main fjord]

tho if i make appy on both, you could use them on normal moons

without the zeranos elevator

the only compromise is that the interior entrance door has a fixed spawn

[fallow drum]

You will also need to remove Blood Moon or rename it

For compat with Legend Weathers

[midnight sierra]

[idle bolt]

does it even work rn

[main fjord]

ye, it works

zeranos works and zer mansion after a recompile

[idle bolt]

nice wanted to make sure it didnt need to update with zera

[main fjord]

it should work regardless if i sent a recompiled version

it wouldnt change much anyway

so it should work

[idle bolt]

I wonder once you do mineshaft, ofc with permission from the og authors, make versions for some modded interiors(mainly thinking ab generic's)

[main fjord]

nah, the support for zeranos shouldnt be too hard for the actual owners of interior mods

so it would be unessesary to have a second version of the mod with zeranos support up

[idle bolt]

yeah fair enough lol

[idle bolt]

seems to conflict with darmuh's terminal stuff

get stuck zoomed in

cant use the terminal

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Parameter name: key
Stack trace:
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LethalLevelLoader.TerminalManager.OnBeforeLoadNewNode (TerminalNode& node) (at ./Patches/TerminalManager.cs:142)
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(wrapper dynamic-method) Terminal.DMDTerminal::LoadNewNode(Terminal,TerminalNode)
TerminalStuff.EventSub.TerminalBeginUsing.ChooseStartPage (Terminal instance, TerminalNode& nextNode) (at ./EventSub/TerminalBeginUsing.cs:108)
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(wrapper dynamic-method) Terminal.DMDTerminal::BeginUsingTerminal(Terminal)
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GameNetcodeStuff.PlayerControllerB:DMD<GameNetcodeStuff.PlayerControllerB::Interact_performed>(PlayerControllerB, CallbackContext)
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zeranos specifically

[midnight sierra]

Huh

[idle bolt]

if you plan to test youll prob have to turn the moonsplus menu on

[midnight sierra]

what's that?

[idle bolt]

in the config it changes how the moons screen works

[midnight sierra]

and idk why my moon conflicting with a terminal mod, like I don't patch anything related to it

[idle bolt]

ill try and test some more specifics, could be it having issues with another mod and than that issue break the terminal mod

[midnight sierra]

I can try to test, only with that terminal mod and my moon in a new profile

[midnight sierra]

everything works fine

[idle bolt]

ok I was wrong its the same issue luxana reported

with blood moon from legend weathers

[idle bolt]

since both mods got a blood moon it breaks haha

[idle bolt]

maybe crimson moon instead?

[midnight sierra]

well when I first created Zeranos there was no such mod

that's why I didn't care about it lol

[idle bolt]

oh yeah im not blaming you haha

blood moon is a pretty common idea

[midnight sierra]

like sure I can change the name of it

on my code

no problem

damn

[idle bolt]

lol

[midnight sierra]

I just noticed that vanilla facility works for zeranos

wtf

[still hearth]

im sorry 😭

[midnight sierra]

Zeranos Moon - Update v1.0.7

Changelog: https://thunderstore.io/c/lethal-company/p/luakite/Zeranos_Moon/changelog

@idle bolt @fallow drum

@main fjord you should also check this out

[idle bolt]

https://tenor.com/view/martin-scorsese-absolute-cinema-absolute-cinema-meme-martin-scorsese-meme-martin-scorsese-absolute-cinema-gif-7188464701423971028

[main fjord]

i genuinely love you vro 🙏

[wheat prism]

Holy fuk

It can't possibly get any more peak

[short hare]

was the vehicles exploding not just a me custom truck thing then?

this is from a few months back https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1348033280896929926/1399325034140663839/zerano.mp4?ex=6922d5fe&is=6921847e&hm=a34e432b236a821cf0b7aa6af336d875f5a72a65a4e35ac1106677b257e7b9ff&

ig i'll have to test it again and find out

[elfin swift]

Just dont park your car there lul

[short hare]

it happened all the time when i descended down

it wasn't just that spot

[elfin swift]

Then idk, dont park it below the hangar's roof
Let it nutrify with the vitamin D

[short hare]

.

[elfin swift]

?

[short hare]

it wasn't just below the hangars roof

[elfin swift]

Oh I see now

How tf

Never had that before lmao

[short hare]

it could be an issue with my truck and zeranos for some reason, but i'm not sure, i saw in the changelog today "fixed cruisers exploding" so

[cold hare]

it rolls new events every floor! I'm super excited

[midnight sierra]

Try to test it again

Oh yeah that too

[midnight sierra]

I think it was because of my sun mesh which had a mesh collider

Because I saw sun object pushing my cruiser so I deleted a collider from it

[elfin swift]

👀

[cold hare]

It will be out in the newest update

[short hare]

i think it either deleted my cruiser or made it invisible

[elfin swift]

Zeranos 0.1.7, or you have to update BC?

[cold hare]

brutal

[elfin swift]

Ahh I see

[short hare]

what exactly does Zeranos do with vehicles?

[midnight sierra]

Absolutely nothing

[short hare]

nope it blew it up

i just tp'd to it

it was so quick to blow up i didn't even see it fly away

[midnight sierra]

It’s your first time going down or?

[short hare]

yes

[midnight sierra]

Hmm

[short hare]

i remember being told that during descension Zeranos looks for certain things within the map to destroy, is this true? and if so, what does it look for?

[midnight sierra]

Yeah but it’s only map objects

[short hare]

it could still be picking up something in my truck

my truck has a-lot to it

[midnight sierra]

I tried to test it only in vanilla + zeranos

and nothing blew up

[short hare]

what does Zeranos look for?

this isn't a vanilla truck btw

[midnight sierra]

It looks for map objects that is children of a HUD canvas

[short hare]

so i'm suspecting something on my end

[stray carbon]

Scandal makes modded cruisers :]

[midnight sierra]

Ohh

[short hare]

oh, then it shouldn't be picking up something with my truck

weird

[midnight sierra]

I have to look into it

later maybe tomorrow cuz it’s 2AM for me here

[short hare]

alright

no rush and no worries

[midnight sierra]

and I’ve got sick yesterday, I am taking my pills every hour lol

[short hare]

get better soon man

[elfin swift]

Hope you get better
Health comes first

[cold hare]

go get some rest too

[elfin swift]

Yeah, you zeranos'd it enough today
Take a rest

[midnight sierra]

Thank you

I still need to fix a lot of “Zeranos” stuff

For example gas tanks that cannot be picked by non owners

or appy that throws errors and you can’t drop it

[midnight sierra]

for a client view too

If you’ve got some new issues/bugs pls let me know

[elfin swift]

Damn
Many client-side issues I see

[midnight sierra]

Yeah only for these items, every other thing like syncing - alright

[stray carbon]

really neat trucks btw

[midnight sierra]

Damn that looks sick

[midnight sierra]

Omg I think I forgot to sync map seed value because I use new system for its randomization

or I did? I forgor, if it’s not pls lmk

[short hare]

this is different haha

this is a Hauler rework

[stray carbon]

aww :,]

[short hare]

i was using the Scanvan when testing

can't use the Hauler since it has no scripts rn lol

[midnight sierra]

I never tried playing with custom cars

I have to try tomorrow

[short hare]

you can't right now :(

[idle bolt]

well the hauler is broken rn and the others arent out

[stray carbon]

someday

anytime soon

[midnight sierra]

Oh wait then w which mod should I test zeranos?

[short hare]

vehicle wise none right now haha 😅
i was just seeing if i could get information on what Zeranos was doing during descension of the elevator

if anything, that was

[midnight sierra]

Well I know that it happens after you get teleported to interior

and play that endless moving animation

It destroys some gameObjects yeah, that might be the issue

[short hare]

are these just the HUD ones you mentioned?

or something more?

[midnight sierra]

Idk, I haven’t looked into it since January lol

[idle bolt]

something weird I noticed, the walker from diversity counts the door to the elevator room as a door it can use for its ability

[midnight sierra]

Maybe because there’s a doorway?

Dungen Doorway ig

[idle bolt]

probably

[idle bolt]

also will say tested with these

no cruiser explosion

[short hare]

then it's probably something with my truck

[grand knot]

hitboxes?

thats the first thing that comes to mind

[short hare]

what hitboxes though

descended, truck got flung but survived, ascended, truck explosion

so it can't possibly be parking near the main door

it got flung AWAY from the door initially

[grand knot]

i may be wrong

but when descending it unloads stuff on the surface

but it isn't unloading the truck

just damaging it

[short hare]

i was literally just asking about that

but why would it need to unload it

and how the hell would it accidentally damage it instead of unloading it

that makes no sense

[short hare]

like what if there are people on the surface but some people descending

lol

unless it only allows descending when all people are inside

[grand knot]

would you be up to test it?

[short hare]

not right now, i could probably do a LAN test anyways

[grand knot]

exactly..

[short hare]

a little busy with smth rn

something must be hitting it super bad

i could probably log any object colliding with it

[midnight sierra]

Can you show me your prefab inspector?

I need to see gameObjects

[cold hare]

Can confirm--and its on Zeranos as well

[midnight sierra]

That's so weird

[cold hare]

Also getting host desync from the clients

[midnight sierra]

Wdym by that?

[cold hare]

The facility is incorrect for me and the others. They're seeing doors that I have, and their facility is different positions than mine

[midnight sierra]

Got it

[cold hare]

yeah this mask understands how I feel right now

[short hare]

i can, but there's quite a-lot to it haha, i'll have to do it later

[cold hare]

For anyone curious, this was a desynced mask on my side, floating in the void, eternally suffering during a Blood Moon.

[midnight sierra]

It should be fine now btw

I just noticed that I didn't drop any Vacuity update til 13th november

damn almost one year

same thing for synthesis whaaaaattt

[cold hare]

Does this also fix the enemy host desync issue?

[midnight sierra]

You mean coil heads?

[grand knot]

that also happens with every entity pretty sure

the hoarding bugs were only attacking me (i was the host)

[cold hare]

yeah, that was the enemy we had issues with. not sure if others were affected though

[midnight sierra]

Then no, I didn't fix it

I will into it later tomorrow

Should I drop a Synthesis update for v73?

[elfin swift]

I think so
the elevator is networked so it also requires to be fixed

so there's 99.5% it's borked

[midnight sierra]

guys i broke my vs project

[fallow drum]

You can restore it we believe in you

I hope you backed it up ^^

[midnight sierra]

well

[cold hare]

The day counter repeats days on Zeranos

[midnight sierra]

?

[cold hare]

It would say 3 days left -> 3 days left on terminal

[main fjord]

@midnight sierra what does this script do btw? (and how could i use it?)

[main fjord]

trying to find out how to make an apparatus work to actually fuel the elevator

[midnight sierra]

Wait uhh

You just have to add it to your apparatus prefab Ig

Apparatuses have to be fixed btw, when they are docked, they cannot be seen by other clients

[haughty kelp]

Any known mod incompatibilities and compatibilities with Zeranos? I know that there is somewhere a compatibility list of supported/unsupported interiors, but I'd also like to know if there is any incompatibilities with non-interior mods too. It's really a try it and see moment

[main fjord]

doesn't seem to be doing anything, could ya tell show me how your prefab is setup?

and i still need to find out how to get it to not play the facility lights turn off animation when pulling the appy out of the elevator socket

[haughty kelp]

So I tried this mod with friends

It doesn't seems to work well

It causes severe desync issues

Maybe this was a reported problem before, I have the logs that I can send if asked.

But basically, the first floor in the facility is correct. It works, items spawns, enemies spawns.

But when we go to the second floor, no items spawns, no enemies.

It seems that the second floor doesn't load properly on the host. The host either see a void or the same floor but with a offseted position, leaving a huge void gap.

And for the clients, they have the same floor as before, but I'm not sure if it's the same exact floor.

It should be, there was the Red Apartments, then we went deeper and it's still the same Red Apartments, while the host player fell in the void

There was a facility floor too, we went deeper, we got a cornfield, and we got the exact same facility floor.

The log file (will send if needed) should cover the three days where we tested the mod. We started the first day on Zeranos on a fresh new save, we had that movie studio interior and a earthquake.
The second day, we got an incompatible interior that spawned instead of ZeranosFacility.
The third day was the Red Apartments.

Idk why no one in this community put their mods on GitHub or make the source code available

[short hare]

so many people do put their mods on github lol

and or include the source files in the zip (like CruiserAdditions)

[midnight sierra]

do it.

I think, you just didn’t set up the interiors

Not all interiors are supported so you have to use only specific ones for this moon.

[haughty kelp]

Yep, I only installed the supported interiors

It was a skill issue to not have set ZeranosFacility weight to 998889

But I don't know what can you say about the severe desync and nothing spawning at the second floor

[haughty kelp]

Logs and Gale profile code sent in DMs, if you see any mods that is incompatible please let me know

There is zero resources available on the surface web about incompatibilities, the mod description doesn't mention any incompatibilities except a disclaimer that the mod is in alpha. Only information I found so far is a list of interiors compatibility. So I only installed compatible interiors mods, but some other mods might conflict?

[midnight sierra]

It spawned incompatible interior on third descend

Look at the interiors list that is added to the randomizer list

[solemn scroll]

kiting

[midnight sierra]

They are added by their weight for this moon

[midnight sierra]

What interior is this?

[haughty kelp]

Is it my list of mods?

[red oracle]

Spelunker's caverns, added by an unmodified custom tag match

[midnight sierra]

Yeah

[haughty kelp]

I have installed these interior mods

Zeranos Mansion, Red Apartments Interior and DULL

[midnight sierra]

I use your code that you sent me.

Anyways, I'm trying on multiplayer

[haughty kelp]

Yep, it's the correct one normally

I referred myself to this list: #1257788280389374024 message

So there's an incompatible interior that needs to be disabled indeed

[midnight sierra]

of course

[haughty kelp]

Obviously when I looked up the interiors to see if there is standalones one, I can't find any

Except now when I filtered to only display interiors, the search function gave unrelevant results

[haughty kelp]

Can I join?

[midnight sierra]

I'm testing on LAN.

[haughty kelp]

Oh alright, we can test together if you'd like/need to

[midnight sierra]

👍

[haughty kelp]

Maybe if you remove DULL interiors it would fix the desync?

[midnight sierra]

I want to see if there's desync on supported interiors

[haughty kelp]

Have you ever seen a non-interior mod incompatible with Zeranos?

[midnight sierra]

No

[haughty kelp]

Maybe CodeRebirth and LethalMoonUnlocks causes issues?

[midnight sierra]

It shouldn't

You say there was floor desync, right? Does it happen on Zeranos supported interiors or non-incompatible interiors?

[idle bolt]

Not all of dull is compatible

You need to set specific ones

As spawns

[haughty kelp]

It happened with supported interiors. Any non-supported interiors caused a warning to appear on the bottom-right to every player, saying that ZeranosFacility is not used for the moon.

[idle bolt]

Just set only compatible interiors to spawn

In LLL

[haughty kelp]

Yep, but since it's a profile just for Zeranos, I plan to only install compatible interior mods

so the DULL interiors pack is removed since i found out there are standalones

or, are the standalones outdated???

[idle bolt]

No

[red oracle]

Standalones and the main pack are updated at the same time

[haughty kelp]

You sure?

[red oracle]

If I update one interior in the pack, the pack and standalone get updated at the same time. I don't update standalones that haven't changed, that'd be redundant

[idle bolt]

The interiors only update if the new pack update actually changed them

There would be no reason too

[red oracle]

If desyncs are occuring because the script the dungeons are using are outdated let me know

[midnight sierra]

Desync only happens for interiors that is not compatible. Very easy to tell, you have see warning log messages like on this one.

[midnight sierra]

Which scripts?

[red oracle]

The elevator and floor number scripts

Elevator room, rather

[midnight sierra]

Ah, dw I didn't modify them since last year

[red oracle]

Okie dokie 👍

[midnight sierra]

@haughty kelp

[haughty kelp]

Oh... I see... So if my profile have these mods instead, there's no desyncs?

[midnight sierra]

@red oracle

Idk about your interiors, can you help us a lil?

[red oracle]

On that list of interiors turtle posted, only the green ones are compatible, anything else is not, and anything not on the list at all is also incompatible

[haughty kelp]

I referred myself to this: #1257788280389374024 message

[midnight sierra]

[haughty kelp]

Zeranos Mansion should be compatible, I also asked in this thread: https://discord.com/channels/1168655651455639582/1398275551751311540

Is there a way you can add code to your mod to handle those desyncs that might be caused by the incompatible interiors?

[midnight sierra]

@haughty kelp Oh btw, only host should pick up gas tanks cuz they are bugged rn

and plugged apparatuses cannot be seen by other clients.

[haughty kelp]

Jerrycans?

[midnight sierra]

Yeah.

[haughty kelp]

What happen if a client picks them

[midnight sierra]

Your pc gon explode

[haughty kelp]

And also WHY DON'T LETHAL COMPANY MODS HAVE PROPER ISSUE TRACKER?!

[midnight sierra]

I'm sorry.

[haughty kelp]

https://tenor.com/bEhW8.gif

[idle bolt]

blame thunderstore, I also wish it had a comment section

sometimes I wanna contact a dev that has no other precense

not in the discord, on github, etc

[haughty kelp]

Why not put the mods on Github

Github is fitting for that purpose

[idle bolt]

not everyone has a github account

or wants to set one up

[haughty kelp]

I think Kite should put the mod source code on github, or at least a issue tracker here

[idle bolt]

especially if they are just making the mod for fun

[midnight sierra]

For example for this one, I don't want to use it.

I mean you can decompile it

https://thunderstore.io/c/lethal-company/p/luakite/Zeranos_Moon/source/

[haughty kelp]

Yeah, decompiling would work, but Github would be fine to use

Github got a issues tab

[red oracle]

I do too, even if it feels like a monkeys paw kinda wish

[idle bolt]

few devs I wanted to get some project files from 😭

[midnight sierra]

Zeranos has to be remaked.

and it should be converted

to an API

not the moon, but the elevator

and it should support all the interiors.

someone pls do it

https://tenor.com/view/green-mile-im-tired-boss-michael-clarke-duncan-gif-16875499

[haughty kelp]

put the source code on github at least 😭🙏

[midnight sierra]

Why you need it?

[idle bolt]

tbh if notezy was still around I feel its something that hed put in his api

[haughty kelp]

Pull Requests, Issues, forks if needed

[idle bolt]

it was going crazy places

[midnight sierra]

Later, not for this mod.

[haughty kelp]

okok

[midnight sierra]

For Elevator API, maybe.

[solemn scroll]

this exists?

[midnight sierra]

I remember coding it, year ago lol

[fiery slate]

if you ever get back to an elevator API, pathfindinglib support in terms of usage/dependency would be much appreciated, allows entities that use pathfindinglib to also use the elevator

idk if @warm sage ever released the elevator code into JLL

[warm sage]

did most of it but never released no

[fiery slate]

hmm well i guess dawnlib does hard depend on pathfindinglib, might be a thing i do too

[midnight sierra]

Got it.

[main fjord]

@midnight sierra so hey uhh, im trying to use this but, it doesnt spawn a jerry can

i want one to spawn on my apparatus tile

to compensate for the fact that the apparatus from my tile currently cant give fuel to the elevator

[stiff helm]

Just to be informed, what are the current issues with Zeranos?

[main fjord]

in the making of zeranos mineshaft and its apparatus tile, i noticed that the default apparatus doesnt give power to the elevator

so i want to spawn in fuel for the elevator alongside the tile, to compensate ig

[stiff helm]

I did hear about that, yea

Are there any others?

[main fjord]

what exactly do you mean rn?

interiors with an apparatus that also don't give power to the elevator?

[stiff helm]

No I mean like

Are there any other issues with Zeranos right now?

I remember a while back the gas canysters were not synced and would break if clients picked em up, there was some maneater jank of some sort, stuff like that

[main fjord]

nah i don think so

the appy on the original zeranos interior still works tho

[stiff helm]

Ohh gotcha!

[idle bolt]

I remember it causing issues with clients using the terminal

but there have been a few hotfixes since then

so ill have to test again

[main fjord]

only problem i had for now, is that when i pull the lever before the "client is loading custom moon" prompt shows up when routing to zeranos, the game would just freeze.

but you would have to pull it asoon as its available

its a very short time window

idk if it happens with the mod combination im running on rn for debugging purposes, or if that's actually possible on a clean modpack

[midnight sierra]

You don’t need these ig

You need to add jerry can script to your jerry can prefab tho

i forgor

[main fjord]

oki, ill maybe try that out

ty

[main fjord]

can confirm the script works ||(i totally did not put tzp inhalant into the elevator)||

[midnight sierra]

https://tenor.com/view/glorp-alien-cat-noted-noting-this-down-glorp-noting-this-down-gif-9671578544383486034

[keen cedar]

is Synthesis still broken?

[midnight sierra]

Yeah

[main fjord]

@midnight sierra could you look into spectator lighting, if there is no light source around, you can't see anything as a spectator, no matter if im on zeranos facility or on any other interior.

[midnight sierra]

Can you send me

gameObject name of it ?

So I can exclude it from my list

[main fjord]

wdym exactly?

[midnight sierra]

I need spot light's name

[main fjord]

oh, lemme research rq

[midnight sierra]

I think it gets destroyed

with map objects

[main fjord]

k

also uhh, is it possible to delete the fire exit completely from your moons surface next patch? or does LLL not like a fire exit less moon?

because my interiors still generate with fire exits, so they work with vanilla moons

[stiff helm]

some moons function with only one entrance, I've seen it before I think

[midnight sierra]

I guess u can do that?

[main fjord]

idk if this is what you meant, its named SpectateCamera and also has a light source component attached in sample scene relay, but idk if it's that.

[midnight sierra]

Okay got it

[main fjord]

nvm i don't think it's that one, it's probably tied to the night vision light from the other players, that get activated for the current spectator too.

[midnight sierra]

It’s not night vision

Night vision is a point light to see in the dark interior tiles

[main fjord]

that is the only light source that makes sense, the light you see around players in spectate shares the same appearance.

[midnight sierra]

a

happy new year

[errant bluff]

[dreamy stirrup]

[astral saffron]

whoops..wrong interior!

[fallow drum]

LMAO

How did it even load wtf

@honest dock Backrooms on Zeranos hits different lmao

[honest dock]

what the fuck

how is that

what?

[fallow drum]

I'm just as confused as you are lol, it normally errors if an interior isn't compatible

[astral saffron]

I was trying out this mod called "Zeranos addons" by TimLiz, which makes some additions to Zeranos, and the newest update they added makes it so it can generate other interiors instead of 1 single interior when you go to another floor!

(The downside I that I have clearly found is that it generates interiors that aren't meant to be generated on Zeranos at all after you stop the elevator and then go down and stop again. Even interiors with 0 weight. I've had the backrooms show up and the greenhouse so far. After that, it completely breaks the elevator.)

https://thunderstore.io/c/lethal-company/p/TimLiz/Zeranos_Addons/

https://medal.tv/games/lethal-company/clips/lShZPtU5TYd41oQh2?invite=cr-MSxneTQsMTkxNzQ4NTcz&v=51

[idle bolt]

wait its not supposed to be a different interior every floor?

so thats why we had desync

[astral saffron]

It's meant to be a different interior every floor, but due to how janky it is.. It can break very easily.

[idle bolt]

yeah I just kinda gave up bc could never fix desync

[astral saffron]

💔

fair

[honest dock]

ok so hypothetically how would i be able to add zeranos compat

[main fjord]

check pinned, kite has a guide

if needed i could provide references on how i implemented it onto an interior

@honest dock

[honest dock]

ok so question

do i need to depend on zeranos if i did this or could it just be optional

[errant bluff]

optional, for example the Niven Reactor interior by DemonMae has zeranos compatibility but doesnt depend on it

[honest dock]

baller alright

honestly the main issue is thinking of where the fuck im gonna put it

[errant bluff]

Zeranos compat with your interiors would be very cool

[elfin swift]

agreed

[analog bridge]

Tower especially

[honest dock]

honestly

towers the big pain in the ass as to what to do for it

[midnight sierra]

You could also wait for the elevator API that I am not coding.

[main fjord]

does this imply anything ?

ShrimpObserve

[midnight sierra]

idk

[grand knot]

vaguepost king over there

[weak oxide]

Not sure what could be causing it, but whenever I have Zeranos in my list it makes it impossible to land the ship. just gets stuck in limbo

[midnight sierra]

I need logs

[weak oxide]

So I got Zeranos specifically to work, idk if other moons load.
However... uhh.. not sure this is supposed to be possible...

so here's that log

lemme see if other moons are still having issues with a new log

nope they do not. below is the log for that issue.

[wheat prism]

which interior is this

[weak oxide]

backrooms. I dont even remember what its from, I assume CodeRebirth

[wheat prism]

if u dont know where it came from, its probably from generic interiors

but that interior is not compatible with zeranos

u have to take it off the spawn weights

[weak oxide]

hmm

[wheat prism]

the only interiors that work on zeranos are the ones that explicitly say they are compatible

[weak oxide]

oh, so I can't have any other interior active?

[wheat prism]

on zeranos specifically u can only have zeranosfacility or zeranos compatible interiors in its spawn weight

basically, disable any dynamic rates and do zeranos:0 on non compatible ones

[weak oxide]

what config would this be in? zeranos doesnt appear to have one

[wheat prism]

lethal level loader

generics backrooms probably has a dynamic tag that zeranos matches

[weak oxide]

doesnt seem to be any option for the backrooms specifically, but I do see the other ones from generic interiors

[wheat prism]

its called Liminal Facility

[weak oxide]

so I disable this

and then make sure no other interior lists any weights for zeranos like..

in here?

[wheat prism]

ya

[weak oxide]

gotcha

[wheat prism]

idk if step 1 is necessary

but step 2 yes

make sure it doesnt have a tag that could potentially match in dynamic level tags

[weak oxide]

I think it's set up to just have a chance to be anywhere?

because otherwise it only has cosmocos as an option

[wheat prism]

oh

its the dynamic route price on the bottom

its injecting itself on any moon that costs between 0 and 99999 to route to

take that out

[weak oxide]

Ahh

v:..... turned into a color wheel

cursed af. lol

Well unless the colorwheel weirdness destroyed everything I think that did it for the interior mishap.

Now if we could figure out why having zeranos installed kills all other moons.

[weak oxide]

the log for other moons not working while zeranos is active, so that it's not lost in the sauce.

[main fjord]

id say zeranos addon might be the culprit, i played with it once, and many weird and unexplainable bugs started pilling up, including what you just said.

[weak oxide]

I'll try without it then

[midnight sierra]

Zeranos Addons?

Mod for a mod is crazy

[main fjord]

yeah the mod is pretty vague

its mostly broken and riddled with bugs

https://thunderstore.io/c/lethal-company/p/TimLiz/Zeranos_Addons/

although some features like no fuel limit actually work, idk about stuff like reviving tho.

[errant bluff]

reviving and more scrap the deeper you go would be nice features to have

[midnight sierra]

[weak oxide]

wait

I dont.. have that?

oh when the

why..

I dont remember getting that.

aaaaaand that seems like it was totally it. I'll play the moon and see if any other fuckery happens just in case.

[weak oxide]

oof, looks like the manor interior hates multiplayer rn

[main fjord]

what seems to be the issue

[weak oxide]

It appears that the host and the other clients, atleast in our experience, regularly are on entirely different maps to eachother. Last night every other time I was in the mansion interior, they were in the facility, and vice versa

we rarely saw the same thing.

[main fjord]

drop a modpack code, ill look into it

[weak oxide]

019bd2aa-83fa-f9ba-2f11-0b4442aeb296

[main fjord]

I would get rid of loadstone, it seems to be the biggest culprit for multiplayer interior desync.

[weak oxide]

Alright. I had it because.. well, even with it, the stuttering on level load is beyond egregious even with so few maps/interiors.

[weak oxide]

That did not fix it unfortunately

[weak oxide]

so I'm not sure what else could do that

[weak oxide]

okay, uhh... well

like.. the entire game is desynched now apparently and I dont know why. Everythign looks good on my end but currently the cruiser is inside the ship so maybe its not a zeranos/mansion thing

[midnight sierra]

Loadstone should work on Zeranos btw

[weak oxide]

yeeting loadstone didn't really help much

but yeeting Natural Selection helped immensely. Friend only got dc'd once in 2 hours, a record for them

We still get invalid interiors on Zeranos for some reason though, I dont think.. anything else has any weights for it atm

[weak oxide]

or rather, we get the message in-game that the interior is invalid. we went down after it said that one of the times and it was completely fine.

We do notice, that whenever that message pops up though, there are FAR more monsters on the surface, like eclipse amount

I'd post the current logfile but it apparently exceeds 50mb.

[rocky oak]

in my experience zeranos only works for multiplayer when using a single interior. whatever interior weights you have set up are completely random per player, e.g during testing w a friend i had only zeranos facility and rolled that interior everytime (duh), and my friend with zeranos facility and mansion active would roll between the two and of course desync us. however even if you use the same config, you can desync and see different interiors. this makes me think desync is caused bc it’s rolling the random rates of each players config and it’s never actually the same between each player in the lobby regardless of if you have the same config or not, if this made any sense idk maybe im dumb

[main fjord]

hopefully, the next zeranos update, syncs the interior properly between host n client, if its purely caused by zeranos itself.

[stiff helm]

https://tenor.com/view/fredbear-golden-freddy-roblox-fnaf-tweaking-gif-6621587465001403357

[errant bluff]

feddy

[cold hare]

I just hope the enemies chasing only host gets fixed too.

[midnight sierra]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-cat-eat-eating-cat-eating-gif-4660959643522286831

hopium

[midnight sierra]

How?

if it's true then the situation is very very weird

when I playtested my mod, none of these things happened

or has LC been updated?

[rocky oak]

not sure if it would change anything, but we were assigning interiors with lunar config rather than lll

[weak oxide]

I almost wonder if its another mod making thr desynch issue happen more often that just isnt posting errors

Wouldnt be the first time

[midnight sierra]

So you don't use LLL config?

[rocky oak]

no

[midnight sierra]

Then I don't get it

[dry blade]

Can confirm that the game can desync interiors in MP. We stopped at the compat mineshaft level. Buddy walked out of the elevator and instantly disappeared.

[midnight sierra]

When the desynces is the interior same?

I mean dungeon flow

[dry blade]

It is. Could it be loadstone maybe?

[rocky oak]

im pretty sure lunar takes priority over lll, so anything in lll config wont apply anyway. you just use lunar to change interior weights instead

[rocky oak]

in my experience it wasnt always the same, we would see dif interiors. also blacklisting them in loadstone changed nothing

[dry blade]

Idk then. We both got Mineshaft on the first level we stopped at. He stepped out the elevator and disappeared on my screen, but I could still hear him talking as though he were near me.

I'm using LLL btw, not Lunar

[rocky oak]

so i guess it desyncs either way

[dry blade]

Problem must lie elsewhere.

Wait...I don't think it was the first level. That worked fine. I think it was the second.

I'm not a modder but it might be possible nothing is wrong with Zeranos itself and that another, unrelated desync is causing this. Either way, hopefully it's resolved soon.

[pastel pawn]

hi, just wanted to report the elevator tank from zeranos is like stacked twice horizontally in the collection popup, and this causes it to not properly get centered when runtimeicons generates an icon for it

[dry blade]

Kinda confused why Zeranos is ignoring dynamic weight injection being set to false in LLL, it just tried to load Greenhouse lol

[weak oxide]

Yeah i have made sure every interior but the base one ignores zeranos and its still occasionally using them. Also managed to get zeranos interior on experimentation yesterday

[dry blade]

That might be more of an LLL bug than anything, but I haven't simulated anything else to verify that. Maybe disabling weight injection just isn't working right now 🤷‍♂️

I'm just gonna have to disable Zeranos for now, I'm also getting harbingers and code rebirth microwaves spawning in the elevator while it's moving, too many issues all around :(

[midnight sierra]

Zeranos needs a proper rewriting

[stiff helm]

vouch

[left heron]

what does the error in the elevator means

in the zeranos moon

[midnight sierra]

If you mean 0x... thing then nothing

it occurs when

on your interior there's no ElevatorPos transform

i think

i frogor

[worldly bear]

Is Zeranos Broken in Multiplayer? tried loading it with some friends and it just was stuck in the air

[golden bluff]

@midnight sierra hey! any plans on rebuilding the assembly for Synthesis any time soon? I believe building the project for new unity/network patcher should fix the broken elevator

  at System.Collections.Generic.Dictionary`2[TKey,TValue].get_Item (TKey key) [0x0001e] in <1071a2cb0cb3433aae80a793c277a048>:IL_001E 
  at Unity.Netcode.RpcMessageHelpers.Handle (Unity.Netcode.NetworkContext& context, Unity.Netcode.RpcMetadata& metadata, Unity.Netcode.FastBufferReader& payload, Unity.Netcode.__RpcParams& rpcParams) [0x0009b] in <d961951ab868489cbec1aa9b2480688f>:IL_009B 
Rethrow as Exception: Unhandled RPC exception!```

[rough bobcat]

I wish the Synthesis moon would get fixed!

[rough bobcat]

yes please

[midnight sierra]

I broke references of my sln project

[golden bluff]

do you need help with it? all you really need is to check&update the reference links in your .csproj and update your nuget packages

[forest grove]

sln != csproj

[forest grove]

How

[golden bluff]

i assume they meant csproj. dont see why the sln would break lol

[midnight sierra]

I forgot

It's been a long time ago

I just need to create a new VS project and fix references in my Unity proj

[golden bluff]

i shall await

[midnight sierra]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-dog-cat-dancing-dog-gif-14388424564145208131

[midnight sierra]

guys it's my bday here

im turning 67

[errant bluff]

hampy plirfday

[golden bluff]

🎂

[elfin swift]

🎂

-# boomer

[golden bluff]

any chance you could do it this month? if not, i could repatch the mod myself and let you upload the new file.

[midnight sierra]

86 Synthesis - Update 1.1.5

Thunderstore: https://thunderstore.io/c/lethal-company/p/luakite/Synthesis_Moon/

@golden bluff@rough bobcat

[rough bobcat]

awesome

[midnight sierra]

[errant bluff]

[grand knot]

https://gif.fxtwitter.com/tweet_video/HC02YCNacAA_H4k.gif

[midnight sierra]

irl mine craft

😮

[errant bluff]

minced raft

[midnight sierra]

[grand knot]

well

[midnight sierra]

wait lc got updated?

[grand knot]

the beta branch yeah

[cold hare]

cannot wait for zeranos v80 update

[wheat prism]

real

[rocky lagoon]

Same

its so nice to be able to loot the infinite dungeons :D

[analog bridge]

potentially* infinite dungeons

gotta keep that elevator runnin

[midnight sierra]

bro

[wheat prism]

whats good cro

[midnight sierra]

vro

what kind of bugs were in zeranos?

like game breaking ones

[idle bolt]

wellllll the dungeon generation is surely fucked

dungen version changed in vanilla LC

[midnight sierra]

no

i mean bugs made by me

[cold hare]

only the host would get targetted by monsters

[main fjord]

interior desync in multiplayer if multiple interiors are assigned to zeranos, i think.

that's what i noticed

[cold hare]

this too

[wheat prism]

And the host only fuel cans, idr if those got fixed ever

[midnight sierra]

wait

it means that i need to update my dungen

which i don’t have

i have to patch lc project again

[deft cedar]

hey guys, how can i fix the elevator at zeranos showing the zeranos interior error, zeranos interior is the only one selected for zeranos in the config in lethal level loader and im hit with " Cannot find interiorPos from StartRoom!" in the logs

[main fjord]

the mod wasn't updated to v81 yet, it's probably broken.

[deft cedar]

Im using the v73 version of the mod in v73 lethal company

[deft cedar]

All of my dependencies are v73 so i guess it should work

[stiff helm]

all i want for christmas is a working zeranos

https://gifconvert.vxtwitter.com/convert.avif?url=https://video.twimg.com/tweet_video/HGCognXa8AMTF2m.mp4

[fiery slate]

Bro wants to wait 8 months before it gets fixed

😔

[midnight sierra]

https://tenor.com/view/spongebob-patrick-star-board-head-gif-12306616216375651578

[stiff helm]

Just giving them time

[grand knot]

https://gifconvert.vxtwitter.com/convert.avif?url=https://video.twimg.com/tweet_video/HF9t2wFbEAErHPW.mp4

dw monty zeranos with tung now

[stiff helm]

was zeranos ever with us tho tbh 💔

I legit never got to play it cuz I was waiting on major bugs to be fixed

I visited the outside ONCE by myself and never went in

[grand knot]

i can count with a single hand the amount of times i visited zeranos

it was a fun roguelike moon

there was a time we spent over a hour inside

[stiff helm]

that's why I am so into the idea of it, just kinda waiting for it to be as stable and functional as it can be

[grand knot]

ngl if kite isn't gonna keep this going

we need someone to take the mantle

same thing with notezy's gimmicky moons

[cold hare]

same. and it was so fun with brutal

[cold hare]

I'd be up to helping it get to working again if @midnight sierra need help too

[wheat prism]

i think the problem is that the concept is so massive it kinda forces players to either go all in with it or not play it at all

like it would be better to make a pack centered around zeranos instead of adding it to something existing and trying to make it work

[midnight sierra]

the biggest problem with Zeranos is that it’s massive

a lot of patches

and it’s hard to fix bugs

that’s why i focused on ElevatorAPI and wanted to “deprecate” zeranos

but it didn’t happen

[main fjord]

still curious, what will ElevatorAPI bring to the table?

[midnight sierra]

any interior support was the main goal

custom moons (like zeranos)

custom elevators

[cold hare]

Community could help

[main fjord]

absolute fire

[midnight sierra]

some progress I made

maybe I can finish it and release in summer

[stray carbon]

good to see progress :]

are there any plans of doing an update for the other moons?
You know, synthesis, vacuity or even Selen

[midnight sierra]

after BoundlessAPI

or ElevatorAPI

idk how to name it

[midnight sierra]

but in code I named it like this

[fallow drum]

ZeranosAPI

[midnight sierra]

nah

it's not only for Zeranos so it needs a different name

[midnight sierra]

I like this one tho and I already use it

[main fjord]

this will be peak

[wheat prism]

all i can really recommend abt the api is just

please have a public github for it

so you can take in PR's n stuff

i dont know if there were repos for the other things you made

[stiff helm]

afaik vacu and synth only needed parity updates, right? or are they fully broken rn

vacu is lit top 5 for me... can't afford to lose it

[midnight sierra]

Nope there wasn’t any public repos of mine

[midnight sierra]

Vacuity doesn’t work? I know Synthesis doesn’t

But idk about vacuity

[wheat prism]

I think at least for the elevator api it would make sense to have a public repo

[midnight sierra]

I know

[wheat prism]

Since the basis of it (zeranos) is already so volatile it would be nice to have more perspectives on the code

[midnight sierra]

Zeranos code is shit

that’s why I didn’t share it

but you could just decompile and see how everything works, almost the same code

[stiff helm]

I was asking the same question so I don't know

I have not tried Vacu in v81 hahah

[midnight sierra]

It's may already

damn

[cold hare]

I just miss Zeranos 😛 it was fun

[grand knot]

who doesn't

https://tenor.com/view/weird-al-yankovic-dancing-deltarune-undertale-toby-fox-gif-25492884

[main fjord]

this shit is monumental 🔥