Kite’s LC Mods

[midnight sierra]

Yeah

[wheat prism]

btw unrelated, tested with lethalthings and radaredits off, here's the error i got instead

[sudden ridge]

Oh actually which error specifically?

[wheat prism]

generic ManualCameraRenderer error

[midnight sierra]

There have to be info logs about destroying some map objects

I need to see it

[midnight sierra]

I need it too lol

[sudden ridge]

[midnight sierra]

I have to test it later today

[wheat prism]

here's what was posted before it happened

log

[fallow drum]

So weird cus in my pack I get no errors

[midnight sierra]

It destroys some of the new map objects

That’s why it throws an error

[wheat prism]

from v70 radar?

[midnight sierra]

Yeah

[wheat prism]

so you should blacklist them?

[midnight sierra]

I don’t know the names so that why I am asking for the logs

[midnight sierra]

Yeah

I havent patched my project to v70

[wheat prism]

oh boy, gonna be some jank from that

[fallow drum]

You should prolly do that

[midnight sierra]

I’m afraid

[wheat prism]

some other devs projects got fucked by patching to v70 so make a backup

[midnight sierra]

[fallow drum]

You got some bugs to fix anyways you may as well go all out with a big update

XD

[midnight sierra]

A lot of stuff to do

[main fjord]

i fixed the tile intersecting, i just moved the door socket for main behind the shaft

AND THEY CAN GO INTO THE ELEVATOR

2 flies with one stone

OMG

one day's worth of sleep fixes everything

the party is on

they couldn't move past the doorsocket 😭

[midnight sierra]

oohh

lol

[main fjord]

this explains everything 😭

i find it funny that one small overseight caused me hours of bundling the file and testing ingame

😭

||(80% of the playtime is from modding or testing other mods, trust)||

[midnight sierra]

Heute

[main fjord]

🔥

who let bro in?

[midnight sierra]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/924770593503596616/1294028804305588254/eLJXoOEQ.gif

[main fjord]

omw to upload this 🔥, will make a thread soon

i hope there are no bugs, other than bugs that have something todo with the elevator and zeranos itself.

well, something will still happen nonetheless

file size is 74mb, though that is caused by it having to bundle the entirety of the mansion inside of it

if zeranos gets more stable, its a matter of time when we get other interiors on the elevator (i hope)

or the idea of having an elevator on every moon as entrance variation 🤑

https://tenor.com/view/seal-rocking-crazy-crazy-seal-insane-man-gif-6717527695886076289

i saw some other components while doing the elevator support, can't it just spawn the elevator on surface?

[midnight sierra]

It's actually hard

In future I want to make every interior to be supported

[main fjord]

this would be lit

it may take time til we see that future

but it will be worth it

watching zeranos getting worked on pre release was fire 🔥

its out!!!
#1398275551751311540

[pliant phoenix]

Ngl I wanna try out zeranos and I'm curious what interiors it supports as I saw the new mansion edit-

Which I hope works with chameleon if not then that's fair since I'm gonna make it only appear on zeranos

[main fjord]

all the tiles, except main are the same.

at most, i had to change some stuff on their textures (as they kind of broke, like the poolwater)

[main fjord]

ill try to see if it's compatible

[main fjord]

doesn't seem like the fake windows turn off when the breaker goes out 😭

[pliant phoenix]

Dang.

Ngl I just picture them being connected to the elevators systems probably

[midnight sierra]

Who has error logs?

because I can't launch the game in multiplayer

I get some weird nfgo errors

[north raft]

is there any mod that fixes zeranos breaking time after visiting it?

https://thunderstore.io/c/lethal-company/p/WhiteSpike/Moon_Day_Speed_Multiplier_Patcher i was hoping this would

but it in fact did not

[wheat prism]

Wym breaking time

[midnight sierra]

Zeranos Moon - Update 0.1.5
Changelog: https://thunderstore.io/c/lethal-company/p/luakite/Zeranos_Moon/changelog/

[midnight sierra]

Should be fixed now

[midnight sierra]

Can you test one more time?

[north raft]

huzzah

[wheat prism]

Yea, I will when I get on my pc

[wheat prism]

to clarify you want me to see if it still spams errors when regenerating dungeon?

[midnight sierra]

Yeah

[wheat prism]

alright

[midnight sierra]

So it is not fixed?

[wheat prism]

i'm checking right now

error spam is fixed

only singular error

probably pathfindinglib being annoyed by not having a navmesh for a bit

[midnight sierra]

If it's singular and it happens only in a loading screen

then it's okay

[wheat prism]

i figure as much

i also tried the apparatus charging, and have 2 things

first, does it only recharge the elevator when the existing charge gets down to 0%?

second, it still plays the lights flickering/radiation popup when you take it out of the slot

[astral saffron]

Hey, so after the apparatus is put into the elevator on the charger. It only works once and never again. Is this intentional or a one-time use for charging the elevator with apparatuses?

First time putting in the app:
https://medal.tv/games/lethal-company/clips/kLsZCk3p2YNS3mgOF?invite=cr-MSxSZ2MsMTkxNzQ4NTcz

Second time putting in the app on the same run:
https://medal.tv/games/lethal-company/clips/kLt0hcipFFKUVYlV2?invite=cr-MSxKSG0sMTkxNzQ4NTcz

[wheat prism]

i was also getting where it didn't want to be placed in the slot

i think what i did was flick the lightswitch a few times and it worked again?

[midnight sierra]

It only works once

It's not a bug.

Wait no

On the second video something weird happens

like why can't you place it

Destroying apparatuses is actually an old bug

That I tried to fix once

[midnight sierra]

It's not?

I tested everything before uploading many many times

and It never happened on me

https://tenor.com/view/computer-works-for-me-meme-engineering-dvd-gif-27508941

[midnight sierra]

crazy stuff happening in LC

[wheat prism]

just did another test

still works fine, natural selection spams error this time

not 100% sure how NS will add compat for this, but i already let them know

[main fjord]

@midnight sierra will you change the apparatice on zeranos to its own item?

kind of weird to find an orange apparatus on experimentation.

[low flicker]

It's replacing experimentation's apparatus?

[main fjord]

at most the color i think

it turns em orange

[fallow drum]

I do hope he does this, alternatively I would be fine if he doesn't mess with the Apparatus at all since the color change is unnecessary

and by altering the prefab it's probably gonna break a lot of stuff that relies on the Vanilla Apparatus for progression stuff like Wesley's moons

[wheat prism]

Surprised crutled hasn't yet made clear how important it is that this appy is orange

[fallow drum]

Then yeah the next best alternative is to make it be it's own custom model and stuff cus it's completely replacing the vanilla prefab rn which will cause tons of issues

[errant bluff]

it would be nice if zeranos had a way of stopping interiors that arent compatible with it from being chosen, id like to use LLL moon tags for interior weights, but using Custom:100 for example includes zeranos

and you cant just put Zeranos:0 in the manual weights list sadly because the moon tag weights override it for some reason

[low flicker]

Orange apparatus was here all along haha. I do like the color. The only issue I have with zeranos is really it's just too much space. It's a cool moon but a different interior that is almost no different than a vanilla interior takes up a lot of resources. I don't know why it just doesn't give me the feeling I would as if I was playing the elevator from the trailer of lethal. it's just not my style really

[wheat prism]

fair enough

it needs optimization, but i think that can wait until the remaining bugs are fixed

i think it would be more unique if it would switch dungeon flow with each floor instead of regenerating the same one every time

[errant bluff]

i thought it did? i thought it just used interior weights to choose an interior each floor

or is that not possible

[low flicker]

Nope. Whatever interior is chosen, is that same interior the whole time on that moon

[errant bluff]

[grand knot]

it would be quite cool though....

[wheat prism]

does Zeranos change the spawns of outside hazards when regenerating the dungeon?

i noticed when mp testing yesterday that an outside hazard in one position when the ship landed was not there after going down to the second floor

[midnight sierra]

[errant bluff]

[main fjord]

the appy in my interior, doesn't go into the slot, only after dropping it until it turns off, but then it doesn't give any power to the elevator.

weird that it even has the normal color beforehand and only changes after dropping it a little

[midnight sierra]

I think I know why this happens and uh

I hope I can fix it in the next update

[main fjord]

yippeee 🙏

ty

[fallow drum]

I will say, I'm not really a fan of the Mansion having an Appy even if it's for Zeranos

Takes away one of the unique things of the interior

[main fjord]

its for mineshaft atm

[fallow drum]

Ahhh

Mineshaft having an Appy seems interesting ig

[main fjord]

the idea for a whine cellar came up in my thread as an area tho, for mansion (with an appy hidden somewhere)

[midnight sierra]

[main fjord]

but im waiting for the default appy support rn before doing anything there

[fallow drum]

Imo the interiors should stay faithful to Vanilla lol, but that's me

[main fjord]

atleast you will have a sustainable fuel source on each floor when playing with zeranos

• people can play them without zeranos if they want an appy on vanilla interiors

[wheat prism]

We're already past that point with the default zeranos interior

[fallow drum]

True but I mean the ones that are being direct ports

lol

like Mansion and Mineshaft

[wheat prism]

I think i wouldnt be against it in those if they aren't guaranteed spawns

Cus its not like apparatus blocks the fuel cans from spawning

[low flicker]

How?

[wheat prism]

Main entrance is different, there's a tall room with a ladder that's new, kite was planning at some point to add a security room that could use all the cameras scattered in the facility

[low flicker]

How did I not realize main entrance was different

Facility is so ancient lmao

Wait, security room sounds awesome

though idk if it would fit.

[midnight sierra]

[main fjord]

[red oracle]

[main fjord]

[errant bluff]

[fallow drum]

Hope you're getting an update out for the Appy soon, planning to throw in Zeranos for Friday

[elfin swift]

Does zeranos still have issues?
Is the issue where other moon's time is broken after zeranos round even fixed already?

[wheat prism]

zeranos issues are fixed

it keeps the time shenanigans to itself

[elfin swift]

Yay

[wheat prism]

and it shouldn't spam errors on consecutive dungeon generations anymore either

i think the #1 priority right now is fixing the fuel cans being weird and maybe making the custom apparatus a separate item instead of a reskin

[elfin swift]

Then as long as I won't touch LQ config on it should be fine then (mainly interiors config, size, etc.)

[wheat prism]

probably

[elfin swift]

I see

[wheat prism]

since zeranosfacility only works on zeranos you can probably change its size through dynamic size scalar instead

[elfin swift]

Only thing I wisb to change is the hazard level, description and enemies which it shouldn't be a problem then 🖐️ 🖐️

I rather not change the interior since I know how restrictive the moon is in that case

[wheat prism]

hazard level and description are no problem

enemies might be weird but i dont think thats an issue either

[elfin swift]

If it will, it doesn't matter anyway
Zeranos itself is very random anyway so all enemies included in it can be a intended design in my modpack

[midnight sierra]

Zeranos facility works for every moon btw

[elfin swift]

But not every facility works for zeranos
There should be an API that replaces main entrance doors with the elevator for the zeranos compat

I'm no programmer or such so I'm just talking shit

[midnight sierra]

Well that's what I am trying to do

[elfin swift]

Oh?

[midnight sierra]

Yeah but I don't know how to do it

[elfin swift]

Fair

[hearty needle]

this may very well break pathing for that enemy, I'd like to make sure this can't happen

it seems to indicate that there are entrance teleports somewhere on the moon that have had their exit point destroyed, but I was under the impression Zeranos didn't have any?

[midnight sierra]

There are entrance teleports

But hidden somewhere

Without them I can't land on my moon

[hearty needle]

gotcha, but I assume you don't do anything to the exit points then

it's curious that it gets confused

I'll have to try and see if I can find where it goes wrong through UnityExplorer I suppose

[midnight sierra]

😐

Interior teleport is at very top

[hearty needle]

is the exit point inside the dungeon?

I think potentially you could just have both entrance and exit in the moon scene to avoid it being destroyed when you change levels

(if that could be the issue)

technically it doesn't matter really, but I'd like to make sure that I can at least leave a warning log in to make sure that nobody changes tp exits unexpectedly

[midnight sierra]

Yeah ig

[midnight sierra]

Synthesis Update 1.1.4

Changelog: https://thunderstore.io/c/lethal-company/p/luakite/Synthesis_Moon/changelog/

[midnight sierra]

How Zeranos started:

[main fjord]

🔥

[stray carbon]

I'd love to see the Day cicle on all moons
But Zeranos is good enough

[hearty needle]

eh never mind, I decided it makes sense to just ignore null exits silently, I don't think it's really possible to support entrance teleports changing their exits unless people use FindExitPoint

[fallow drum]

Btw @midnight sierra any plans to add support to put 2 handed items on the shelves in the Elevator so Yippee bugs don't grab them? lol

[midnight sierra]

[north raft]

I just got sent this in my bug reports for my modpack

Only happened on Zeranos

I wish they sent me a log 😀

Unsure if it’s my modpack somehow causing this

Or zeranos scrap isn’t despawning per regeneration and stuff is getting stuck outside the map

[midnight sierra]

[elfin swift]

-# bruh I pressed plink emoji, it summoned greed

[main fjord]

[elfin swift]

[north raft]

Judging by your reactions this is either already known or just an issue on my end where nothing can be done

[main fjord]

nah its zeranos related

[elfin swift]

Nah
It's code rebirth's fault

[main fjord]

the issue happens on zeranos with nothing else

||(blud i tested alot with the mod 😭)||

[elfin swift]

||/j||

[wild forge]

Everything is CodeRebirth's fault

Whenever I stub my toe I curse at Xu's name

[edgy dust]

zeranos

[fallow drum]

Zeranos still has quite a few bugs I noticed

Some issues we ran into today:
1: The Apparatus is invisible for the client holding it and if they insert it in the Elevator it's invisible for everyone but them but it reappears if they drop it.
2: Enemies spawned on Zeranos will show up for late joining clients and cause an explosion of errors in their logs
3: The Apparatus becomes pink after routing away from Zeranos

@midnight sierra

[cerulean viper]

[Warning: Unity Log] Cannot find interiorPos from StartRoom! note i have interior mods so this is likely due to my modpack

[Error : Unity Log] Scene 'LevelZeranos' couldn't be loaded because it has not been added to the build settings or the AssetBundle has not been loaded.
To add a scene to the build settings use the menu File->Build Settings...
[Error : Unity Log] NullReferenceException: Object reference not set to an instance of an object
Stack trace:
Unity.Netcode.SceneEventProgress.SetAsyncOperation (UnityEngine.AsyncOperation asyncOperation) (at <895801699cfc4b4ab52267f31e2a4998>:IL_0007)
Unity.Netcode.DefaultSceneManagerHandler.LoadSceneAsync (System.String sceneName, UnityEngine.SceneManagement.LoadSceneMode loadSceneMode, Unity.Netcode.SceneEventProgress sceneEventProgress) (at <895801699cfc4b4ab52267f31e2a4998>:IL_0008)
Unity.Netcode.NetworkSceneManager.LoadScene (System.String sceneName, UnityEngine.SceneManagement.LoadSceneMode loadSceneMode) (at <895801699cfc4b4ab52267f31e2a4998>:IL_00D5)
(wrapper dynamic-method) StartOfRound.DMDStartOfRound::StartGame(StartOfRound)
StartMatchLever.StartGame () (at <31f0351006d541aeb5ae92a12fc7161b>:IL_0068)
StartMatchLever.PullLever () (at <31f0351006d541aeb5ae92a12fc7161b>:IL_0008)
UnityEngine.Events.InvokableCall.Invoke () (at <e27997765c1848b09d8073e5d642717a>:IL_0010)
UnityEngine.Events.UnityEvent`1[T0].Invoke (T0 arg0) (at <e27997765c1848b09d8073e5d642717a>:IL_0049)
InteractTrigger.StopSpecialAnimation () (at <31f0351006d541aeb5ae92a12fc7161b>:IL_023A)
InteractTrigger+<specialInteractAnimation>d__68.MoveNext () (at <31f0351006d541aeb5ae92a12fc7161b>:IL_01AE)
UnityEngine.SetupCoroutine.InvokeMoveNext (System.Collections.IEnumerator enumerator, System.IntPtr returnValueAddress) (at <e27997765c1848b09d8073e5d642717a>:IL_0026) Um ya my modpack does not like this moon sadly

[wheat prism]

do you have any interiors explicitly assigned to zeranos, or that have dynamic tag weights

the only interiors that work with zeranos right now are ZeranosFacility, Dreary Pipeworks, Niven Reactor, and Zeranos Mansion

[cerulean viper]

https://thunderstore.io/c/lethal-company/p/NotezyTeam/SelectableInteriors/ i set this to none so it would be random and when i quit and forced it to be zaranos it did the other error

[wheat prism]

hmm, can you send your profile code

[cerulean viper]

01985837-2590-7c36-3aeb-61f700bd9427 Its likely just the interior mods given how cool this moon and the idea behind it i may make another profile for this

https://thunderstore.io/c/lethal-company/p/IAmBatby/DynamicInteriorVariety/ This guy probably also had a hand in it probably generating the wrong interior when i set it to random

[north raft]

pingas

[wild forge]

Wandered off in a random direction on Synthesis and desided to wrap around clockwise since i seemed to find my way out of the intended play area, but there was an invisible collider here preventing my from getting back into the valley

would guess that the colliders are there to prevent players from getting out, but in this case I was on the other side somehow and couldn't get back in

Personally don't like the idea of invisible walls to stop players getting lost. Prefer when moon folk use hazzards and other stuff to make it clear to the player that whichever direction isn't the way to go

[weak oxide]

not sure if this is from zeranos or not but I updated my list and the save now does the black screen and fog thing

it was mentioning ElevatorMod startofround patch or something

[wild forge]

managed to find the hole to get back in and ran a sucessful day. Raided through the fire-exit and decided to go and grab the elevator appy to sell. It despawned on entering orbit though :(

[wheat prism]

I believe this only adjusts interior weights that are actually allowed to spawn on that moon, it cannot add interiors to a moon

[cerulean viper]

Huh mk

[stiff helm]

same

[fallow drum]

Btw @midnight sierra I've also noticed that quitting out while on Zeranos sometimes causes some mods to start error spamming like Reserved Item Slots

[fallow drum]

Btw @midnight sierra When you can make sure you add the Radar Sprites for the Zeranos facility, it's just a clone of the Vanilla facility basically so that shouldn't be too difficult to do I imagine

[main fjord]

he could wait til v75 when new facility tiles drop 🙏

so he can add them while hopefully adding the sprites

[fallow drum]

I mean we have no confirmation when the Facility update is coming or when the next game update is releasing

lol

[main fjord]

true

😭

[fallow drum]

Btw I think this is from Zeranos Mansion

[main fjord]

tho the blogposts on his patreon are consistent

(zeekerss)

[fallow drum]

Ye

[main fjord]

could just be the garden tile 😭

but that is mostly vanilla as i only crunched down on its textures for filesize

[fallow drum]

Probably lol

[main fjord]

is ignorable

[midnight sierra]

All questions to the reserved item slot

Because I don't patch anything related to it

[fallow drum]

I've noticed there is an error that sometimes throws when disconnecting and I think it causes other mods to error with it

it relates to the scene

That error there, I think in this case turning Unload Unused back on cancelled out other mods from erroring cus it calls UnloadUnusedAssets

Also found a tile where the Apparatus appears normal in the socket, it's the one with the big open room with the stairs

it did end up turning Orange after I dropped it but it didn't power the Elevator and I found a funny bug

It kept triggering the Apparatus Warning

LOL

[main fjord]

will hopefully be fixed next patch, same issue with the apparatus on my mineshaft copy.

waiting for that so i can release it including the tile

[midnight sierra]

omg wtf

[fallow drum]

Btw does your interior have the sprites?

[main fjord]

yes

both of them

[fallow drum]

Noice

I noticed if I disable the Zeranos Facility the moon loads in much quicker with the other compatible interiors so I'll probably disable it since it has no sprites

Or ig I could leave it and reduce the weights potentially

[fallow drum]

Decided to keep it on, and rebalanced weights for other compatible interiors a little

Zeranos Facility remains at 300, Mansion remains at 75, Niven at 150

[main fjord]

also the appy socket breaks when you put in an apparatus and go down a floor, causing the appy to despawn, and you can't put a new one inside.

[main fjord]

after leaving zeranos, the apparatus also looses its texture

[fallow drum]

I listed this here @main fjord lol

[wheat prism]

I got this a while ago too

I think that once the apparatus for this moon is made its own item, the elevator should remove the component attaching it to facility power when it's plugged in

[midnight sierra]

https://tenor.com/view/mistwol-cat-his-greed-will-consume-him-eating-silly-gif-14271929065765266047

[errant bluff]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1182732210084786330/1370651500220514344/eyerunner.gif

[north raft]

Make a bottom level that’s just a pit of flesh tentacles

Level 1000

[fallow drum]

@midnight sierra You should probably add a wiki or a guide to the mod page for Zeranos so devs have an easier time making their interiors compatible

[wheat prism]

I believe there was a thread already

[fallow drum]

Jacob was trying to find it to add support for Office but couldn't find anything on the mod page

But ye I see there's a guide one sec

[wheat prism]

This should be pinned tbh

[fallow drum]

Ye I forwarded that to Jacob just now in dm

It is

It's the top pin when you check pins

[wheat prism]

Wait so Jacob wants office to work on this moon?

[fallow drum]

I was talking with him about it, idk if he's gonna do it lol

[wheat prism]

So get off one elevator, to get into another

Lol

[fallow drum]

I basically told him the idea would be funny

Ye

[grand knot]

the engineers are so creative..

[fallow drum]

I mean the idea is peak

XD

Even if it won't happen

[grand knot]

i want the elevator for the outside thats what

i wanna make my own zeranos

[fallow drum]

I kinda wanna see V4 Experimentation get remade but tbh I like the exterior of Zeranos a ton and think it's probably a better way to recreate the V4 gameplay

[warm sage]

no. also after looking at the guide i see a few admittedly small problems with it. but enough to put me off on doing it.

also i was asked about doing it. wasn't really my idea

[fallow drum]

Yeah it would more so be funny but didn't expect you to do it lmao

[grand knot]

https://tenor.com/view/mr-incredible-mr-incredible-baby-3d-kermit3d-baby-gif-26972579

[stiff helm]

https://tenor.com/view/david-corenswet-superman-letterboxd-five-stars-5-stars-gif-17283944456422982925

[fallow drum]

@main fjord I would assume your interior isn't supposed to generate Fire Exits on Zeranos, I went out a Fire Exit since I saw one existed and got dropped under the map

LOL

Either that or @midnight sierra has a funny bug to fix

[main fjord]

they generate, but they should just be blocked off, idk how that happens.

[fallow drum]

Lmao, time I add Entrance Blocker specifically for Zeranos

[errant bluff]

https://youtu.be/dTymO0B2p6g

Zeranos in this video

seems like they couldnt figure out how to go to deeper floors lol

[wheat prism]

Probably cus they wasted all the power on the first trip down

[fallow drum]

Tbf I usually also let the Elevator go til it runs out cus it's more cinematic lol, and it's not too hard to find stuff to refuel it

That being said you can stop it lol

[wheat prism]

Yeah I mean

I guess not everyone is intuitive enough to look at the panel again when you start going down?

[errant bluff]

im gonna be honest i didnt even know that lmao

[fallow drum]

it's more fun to just let it run out of power and stop naturally

lol

[midnight sierra]

That’s cool

I hope they play again with a newer version of this moon

[fallow drum]

You got a bug fix update coming soon?

I'm kinda glad if that's the case The Appy desyncs definitely need fixed lol

[midnight sierra]

Nah I didn’t fixed anything yet

[errant bluff]

[grand knot]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/922653339936784396/1281072825775689859/attachment.gif

[fallen oasis]

[wild forge]

https://tenor.com/view/bunny-rabbit-angry-bath-water-gif-6072597

[main fjord]

https://tenor.com/view/ash-baby-gif-4777969067683587758

[midnight sierra]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-winking-smiling-gif-25354426

[wheat prism]

zeranos facility keeps spawning on synthesis even though i have no weight for it

it's also culling really badly and spamming logs with a nullref

culling

[fallow drum]

Try regenerating your LLL config

I've seen this happen before where interiors spawn on moons despite not having weights for them it's a bug with the LLL config I believe

[fallow drum]

I usually tend to add Central Config nowadays due to strange issues I've randomly had with LLL's config, and I look forward to when Lunar Config eventually releases

[earnest pasture]

holy shit taldor at the beginning

[errant bluff]

[wheat prism]

just did, still there

[fallow drum]

Weird

I would guess Synthesis somehow is registering the Zeranos tag or smth. I would just use Central Config to handle interior weights, just keep in mind you'll need to make sure when using things like Grand Armory and Toy Store to correct the capitalization in the weights, it won't register all lowercase names

[wheat prism]

not a chance i'll use CC for interior weights

[fallow drum]

I used to feel the same way, but when having moons like Zeranos I prefer it over trusting LLL's config to not bug out

Cus I need to set other interiors to not spawn on there

[wheat prism]

i don't think lll is to blame here though

[fallow drum]

No probably not

[wheat prism]

i think synthesis itself is forcing zeranos facility to have a weight on it

or the other way around

[fallow drum]

Might be cus it has an elevator?

[wheat prism]

no

the elevator in synthesis is much simpler than in zeranos

it shouldn't even be considering that

[fallow drum]

No but I wonder if the script it references shares the same name for both moons

lol

[wheat prism]

that would be quite the blunder

[midnight sierra]

No it shouldn’t

[fallow drum]

Btw you might wanna make it so fuel can spawn during Single Item Days somehow, maybe register it seperately so you don't get stuck unable to descend? Unless you can push an update asap to fix the Apparatus issue cus we got the tile where we got an Appy that couldn't power the elevator and cus of SID also couldn't get fuel ☠️

[red oracle]

adding elevator scripts to tiles force adds network components, it didn't use to, is it necessary to have them on the tile roots?

[midnight sierra]

Yeah

[fallow drum]

Btw @main fjord Still curious why Zeranos Mansion manages to generate fire exits cus I don't think the Zeranos Facility does lmao

People found out the funny that happens last time we had Mansion on there and went out of the fire exit

XD

[main fjord]

idk, could check next time what determines that

maybe just caused cuz i copied a vanilla interior

[fallow drum]

Possible

[fallow drum]

@midnight sierra You might wanna add hot reload compat for Zeranos if possible

[analog bridge]

or not. unrequired

[fallow drum]

It's needed, pacoito kept getting out of memory crashes today cus of it

[sudden ridge]

Zeranos does actually support it, I was just wondering if that was the case

Unless this log deceives me:
[Info :LethalLevelLoader] zeranosscene.lethalbundle Unloaded (7.16s)

[fallow drum]

Ahhh I see, maybe Castellum Carnis was causing you to hit the memory limit then

[sudden ridge]

Perhap

[fallow drum]

Since that interior is 69mb

Good I can keep Zeranos

[sudden ridge]

It's weird though I even let BFLAP cache everything, hmm

[fiery slate]

lol how are you getting out of memory crashes

[sudden ridge]

I don't know 💀

[fallow drum]

I think he needs to regen his faster load cache personally

[midnight sierra]

[midnight sierra]

brohow

[wheat prism]

They asked in a diff thread, might as well ask here

[wheat prism]

also goddamn

can we get these file sizes down a bit?

(mainly the scene bundle)

[elfin swift]

200 MB moon
Yummers

[midnight sierra]

I thought you can’t use teleports?

[elfin swift]

Can you?

[wheat prism]

i don't know, i never tried it. are teleporters supposed to be disabled on this moon?

[midnight sierra]

Yeah

[fallow drum]

The normal teleporter can be used but not the inverse which is a good thing lol

We had a player get stuck on top of the elevator once that needed a to because a microwave spawned in the elevator lmao

Also imo the Inverse should work, idk why it can't grab the current generated seed and only have the popup if the elevator is in movement

[fallow drum]

I mean remember it hot loads so it doesn't need to be a priority

I wanna see the bugs fixed more than anything else

[midnight sierra]

No?

It worked at start

and it was very very bugged like there’s no elevator, floors

[fallow drum]

Hmmm

[midnight sierra]

or even doorways

because the map isn’t even generated

and after regenerating interior it throws some errors

[fallow drum]

I noticed the first interior generates before you even use the elevator

it's descents after that regen it

[midnight sierra]

It has to

Because I’m not doing it

This game can’t work with no interior

[fallow drum]

Also btw have you considered adding some kinda backup system in place if it attempts to generate an incompatible interior?

Cus having to reload cus you get soft locked kinda

sucks

[midnight sierra]

Isn’t it already tells you to not go there if it runs on incompatible interior?

And you can’t start the elevator

[fallow drum]

It will popup a warning but then land anyways, but yeah

it only warns after lever pull

[midnight sierra]

I don’t want to touch these kind of stuff because they are controlled by a game either LLL

[fallow drum]

Fair

[midnight sierra]

Only after pulling the lever LLL chooses an interior

[fallow drum]

Yeah

[midnight sierra]

I can’t even automatically stop generating or something

Even If I do, it’s a lot of patching.

[fallow drum]

That is fair

I was just more wondering about the interior attempting a reselect if using the Elevator byeah that also might be difficult lol

[midnight sierra]

Hmm

I have to check how LLL chooses dungen flows

or interiors, idk how they are named

[fallow drum]

The other thing that could probably be done is to set compatible interiors to high weights so the likelihood of an interior with the Custom: tag doesn't get rolled

I could probably just make all compatible interiors be 9999

[midnight sierra]

[fiery slate]

Thats also base game, ghe problem here is that the random seed for the interior is created on pulling the lever (technically a tiny bit after), so it's not possible to really predict what interiors can spawn on it

[fallow drum]

Yeah

[fallow drum]

You have any ideas in mind for fixing the Apparatus issues btw?

[midnight sierra]

I will look into it when I return to LC stuff

[wheat prism]

did more looking into zeranos

the thing abt teleporters is kinda true

inverse is disabled, normal one works fine

i think the question the other person had was if the elevator would automatically return to the surface if there are no more players inside

[cold hare]

@midnight sierra so a interesting idea I had was that you could use BCMER's ModifyLevel() to reroll events every time you go to a new elevator floor if you'd like to try an interesting compatibility feature between your mod and brutal if it works.

[elfin swift]

Boom, nutslayer floor

[nocturne peak]

hello hello im trying to add zeranos compatibility with my interior but im a bit confused on the setup and testing, i think i did most of it right and i assigned everything that i understood but i dont really understand the position stuff, in one of the images in the tutorial im using theres two transforms "MainEntrance_DefaultPos" and "MainEntrance_ElevatorPos" but i have no idea where to put these, and theres another that isnt assigned in the images called "ElevatorConnectionPosition" that i think i have to offset from the tile? but i have no idea by how much i should offset it

as for actually testing it ingame i tried running zeranos but it only put me on default facility and i couldnt figure out how to do a different interior, pressing "go deeper" didnt seem to do anything, this part i assume is just me not knowing how zeranos works

[grand knot]

did you press the green button after?

[nocturne peak]

i did yeah

when pressing return to top instead and then green button that worked tho so i assume maybe i missed something

[grand knot]

its because it only picks one interior each landing

[nocturne peak]

oh i see

so i just have to keep reloading until it picks mine?

[grand knot]

or just set your weight to 9999

that might guarantee it

[nocturne peak]

kk will try that

that worked, thanks! now just gotta figure out what positions to set lmao

cuz uh oops

[nocturne peak]

how would the weights work as a dev? like should i include zeranos within my mod as a place to put the interior or is that on zeranos' side?

[grand knot]

doing that on your side

interior devs have more power over weights

[nocturne peak]

kk

i assume 300 is the normal for this?

ah shit wait this moon breaks my teleporters though, im gonna need some custom code

i have teleporters that move you to the entrance teleport position but that wont work with zeranos as the entrance teleport is moved outside the tile

[grand knot]

so you're gonna have to do some coding shenanigans to make the teleport work?

[nocturne peak]

yeah so my interior has these teleporters that move you to the entrance, but since this mod requires the entrance to be moved outside of the tile they dont work properly

unless im doing it wrong?

[grand knot]

you COULD see what other people set their interior weights for zeranos..

[grand knot]

i've never worked with zeranos, but that should be the case

[nocturne peak]

i see, hm that complicates things then

nvm thought of a simple enough solution

okay got it lined up but i got one last question, how do i prevent the elevator from clipping through the interior? tiles generated right above entry tile so it clips

would that be a tile bounds thing?

[main fjord]

having the entrance door, doorsocket of your starting tile behind the theoretical location of the elevator shaft kind of disallows tile generation behind the tile, and i also cranked up the tile bounds so tiles dont generate over or behind the main entrance, atleast not where the entrance doorsocket is.

or you can insert a new doorsocket with the same values:

if you dont have a starting doorsocket

hope that works

[nocturne peak]

kk ill try moving the door socket back a bit, ty!

last question, any way to disable the floor number if playing on the interior outside of zeranos?

oh wait

if i just put them under the elevator start room objects that should work

silly me

[cold hare]

That could happen

[cold hare]

@midnight sierra please consider :3

[midnight sierra]

Welcome!

Yeah you can even use two different entrance tiles. Just make sure to set activity to true for the default tiles and hide the elevator one. Then assign them in your component.

[midnight sierra]

I understand.

[nocturne peak]

yup i went with my solution tho to save mod space

them prefabs be taking hella space sometimes... one of my tiles is 3.1mb somehow 😭 blasphemy i say

[midnight sierra]

I just call functions that Zeekers use.

For the event randomization, because somehow I can't update it while you wandering in interior.

The timers just don't work.

[cold hare]

I was more meaning when you push the elevator, you can use brutals modifylevel() to change brutals events up

[midnight sierra]

Oohh

I don't know about this one. If I do it then I have to add this mod into dependency list.

[wheat prism]

you could do it as soft dependency, and then have a compatibility flag thats set true if BCMER is in the chainloader modlist

[wheat prism]

you can check Chainloader.PluginInfos.ContainsKey("SoftDiamond.BrutalCompanyMinusExtraReborn") in an if statement or something

[cold hare]

Agree with @wheat prism you can soft depenedency it

[rare path]

Could "Dynamic interiors" be causing zeronos to load the wrong dungeon?

[wheat prism]

dynamic tags can cause it to load things it shouldn't

[rare path]

Alright then

[carmine lichen]

What exactly is ZeranosFacility? Thats not a mod that even exists yet we need it to load into the elevator

[rare path]

It comes with it-

Also, I just keep falling through the elevator to my death when I return to the surface

[fallow drum]

That sounds like you have some mod triggering you to get Infinity or NaN'd or smth

[rare path]

???

[fallow drum]

Falling through things is usually the result of something causing you to get Infinity or NaN spam

[rare path]

O….k

[fallow drum]

@midnight sierra I noticed a bug with Zeranos, after descending a few times the interior tends to desync for a client and the Loading: Synchronizing.... message gets stuck on their screen

[midnight sierra]

It means that you've got an error

I need to see logs

[grand knot]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1054684943336349716/1307421730997928027/caption.gif

[midnight sierra]

fr

[elfin swift]

with the "Loading: Synchronizing.... message" I had that too once

[fallow drum]

@sudden ridge log

[fallow drum]

When I checked my host log I never saw anything, that being said shouldn't interior generation always be based on what the host gets like Vanilla and LLL do?

My only guess is maybe Loadstone has a chance to desync it

I pinged pacoito regardless since he was one of the clients that desynced

[sudden ridge]

[fallow drum]

I should also add there was also some other fuckery like days never progressing past the first day, no idea if that's cus we had to reload the lobby a couple times to let people join byeah

Cus we did a whole Quota on Zeranos fine once

[sudden ridge]

The two most significant errors that round were these

[01:07:50.0055965] [Error  : Unity Log] NullReferenceException
Stack trace:
ElevatorMod.Patches.EndlessElevator+<InitalizeNewFloors>d__165.MoveNext () (at ./Patches/EndlessElevator.cs:1257)
UnityEngine.SetupCoroutine.InvokeMoveNext (System.Collections.IEnumerator enumerator, System.IntPtr returnValueAddress) (at <e27997765c1848b09d8073e5d642717a>:IL_0026)

Followed by this (next floor)

[01:11:36.3459526] [Error  : Unity Log] NullReferenceException
Stack trace:
ElevatorMod.Patches.EndlessElevator+<InitalizeNewFloors>d__165.MoveNext () (at ./Patches/EndlessElevator.cs:1140)
UnityEngine.SetupCoroutine.InvokeMoveNext (System.Collections.IEnumerator enumerator, System.IntPtr returnValueAddress) (at <e27997765c1848b09d8073e5d642717a>:IL_0026)
UnityEngine.MonoBehaviour:StartCoroutine(IEnumerator)
ElevatorMod.Patches.EndlessElevator:GenerateFloor_ClientRpc() (at ./Patches/EndlessElevator.cs:1133)
ElevatorMod.Patches.EndlessElevator:__rpc_handler_628475975(NetworkBehaviour, FastBufferReader, __RpcParams)
Unity.Netcode.RpcMessageHelpers:Handle(NetworkContext&, RpcMetadata&, FastBufferReader&, __RpcParams&)
Unity.Netcode.ClientRpcMessage:Handle(NetworkContext&)
Unity.Netcode.NetworkMessageManager:ReceiveMessage(FastBufferReader, NetworkContext&, NetworkMessageManager)
Unity.Netcode.NetworkMessageManager:HandleMessage(NetworkMessageHeader&, FastBufferReader, UInt64, Single, Int32)
Unity.Netcode.NetworkMessageManager:ProcessIncomingMessageQueue()
Unity.Netcode.NetworkManager:NetworkUpdate(NetworkUpdateStage)
Unity.Netcode.NetworkUpdateLoop:RunNetworkUpdateStage(NetworkUpdateStage)
Unity.Netcode.<>c:<CreateLoopSystem>b__0_0()

[fallow drum]

Fun

[midnight sierra]

[midnight sierra]

https://tenor.com/view/ok-garmin-video-speichern-ok-garmin-video-speichern-gif-4750304882178896883

[main fjord]

https://tenor.com/view/drezzidle-bird-rain-bird-rain-rain-bird-gif-14559616664779366797

[midnight sierra]

dead thread

👎

https://tenor.com/view/cat-winking-smiling-gif-25354426

[grand knot]

https://tenor.com/view/goku-piccolo-goku-kiss-dragon-ball-gif-13524722178893516531

[elfin swift]

True
Push an zeranos update /j

[errant bluff]

where zeranso. Update

[stiff helm]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/942681995295748128/1008162544785031279/20220801_223206.gif

[midnight sierra]

no idea

[midnight sierra]

okay garmin

[midnight sierra]

can someone give me a

lc clone game idea?

[analog bridge]

monkeys that enter a jungle to steal bananas, but ape'ish monsters also lurk within

[stiff helm]

worm adventure

[midnight sierra]

https://tenor.com/view/lethal-company-bracken-flower-man-flowerman-meme-gif-16905754154666355048

[full orchid]

Uh is there any sorta list of known incompatible interiors with Zeranos? I'm wanting to maybe incorporate some interior variation for the moon to for when I do a session with my pals to see how they feel about the moon

If I need to do my own tests to see which is ok and which would spontaneously combust then I'm all ok with that too . < .

[wheat prism]

Anything that doesn't explicitly state it's zeranos compatible is not compatible

They have it in the readme

A list of ones I know that work are gray apartments, sub systems, zeranos mansion, dreary pipeworks, and niven reactor

[full orchid]

Ah gotcha, thanks for the heads up

[errant bluff]

[midnight sierra]

im a new soul

[elfin swift]

Bro gave up lethal modding 🥀

[wheat prism]

no more zeranos 🥀

[elfin swift]

This is zeranos now

[midnight sierra]

[grand knot]

well?

[midnight sierra]

what

[errant bluff]

🥀

[midnight sierra]

made this in a day

https://thunderstore.io/c/lethal-company/p/luakite/Selen_Moon/

[stray carbon]

oh

looks cool

Hope that someday I could see all the moons in a moonpack :,]

at least the non-gamechanging ones

[midnight sierra]

it's just a moon, nothing special, like seriously

dine moon assets

just copy pasted

[elfin swift]

can I have a screenshots of the moon?

nvm they on read me

but my net became slow as hell 😅 💀
indeed cool

[stiff helm]

ifwugang

kite moon???

[analog bridge]

new

[timid quartz]

Fun moon! Do the interors change with each floor or is it staic?

[midnight sierra]

which one bro?

If you mean Zeranos moon then yeah

it changes seed but not the dungen flow

[timid quartz]

ah ok!

[analog bridge]

Zeranos will likely be the only moon to change interior generation in the same visit

[midnight sierra]

wait so no one did it before?

[analog bridge]

pretty sure noone did

[midnight sierra]

that’s cool

[timid quartz]

the most i remamber is a moon that changes the outside on the same visit but dont quote me on that

[midnight sierra]

it’s actually pretty easy to do

[analog bridge]

Cosmocos used to

[midnight sierra]

i spent a lot of time coding it

i think zeranos is now stable?

[analog bridge]

and it shows

[midnight sierra]

i mean at least playable

[analog bridge]

havent been there since before its most recent refurbish. may give a look later

[midnight sierra]

[timid quartz]

i do where the song of the Dropship on Zeranos is from

its a banger

https://tenor.com/view/killer-bean-killer-bean-dance-killer-bean-dance-gif-16948808

[fallow drum]

Can't see worth a shit and I can't find main

Lovely

Why are there even guidance poles when they lead nowhere?

XD

But yeah this is clear weather

It's so unbelievably foggy

I'll uh

Wait a bit on this one

I ran around for a bit finding nothing but dead ends

[midnight sierra]

Yeah the fog needs to be fixed

[fallow drum]

Yeah I knew this couldn't have been intended

[stiff helm]

It took me 10 seconds to find a fire exit

[fallow drum]

Lucky lol

[stiff helm]

not lucky

i just followed the lights and the terrain details

[fallow drum]

I followed the Lights and got led to what looked like a dead end but also

[stiff helm]

the last light pole here is off to the right so I just kept going that way, then the hills around kept me in that straight line and I just kept going forward for a lil bit more till I found the FE

[fallow drum]

it's too foggy to see shit so

[stiff helm]

ye but you can still make out where the path is if you look at the floor, it's not that dense

still needs a bit of work but it's a good start kite

eternaldamnation~1

also the pipe is tagged as snow, jsyk

[midnight sierra]

It's not

volume warning

Selen 37 Update 1.0.1

Changelog: https://thunderstore.io/c/lethal-company/p/luakite/Selen_Moon/changelog/

[wild forge]

Hell yeah

[midnight sierra]

https://tenor.com/view/tyler-the-creation-tyler-the-creator-child-kid-son-gif-8121086759220539515

[wild forge]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1190531348839010344/1218111336475791420/a_654711e3dd0c785a7b098a5d23fdaf4b.gif

[elfin swift]

I read seichi and pissed myself a little

[midnight sierra]

what

[elfin swift]

I said that I read that as seichi for a second

[stiff helm]

the footsteps there sound like snow tho

[midnight sierra]

I know and idk why this happens

it also leaves snow decals

[stiff helm]

i presume it's because of the snow decals yea

[stiff helm]

that's a bit strange yea

I assume the first field says smth other than snow when you select the pipe?

(this is from my own project)

[midnight sierra]

[midnight sierra]

I selected Metal tag

on every collider

[stiff helm]

on the collider?

you can add tags to colliders?

huh, didn't know that

for footstep sounds n stuff I just change it on the very top right options

[midnight sierra]

I mean gameObjects with collider attached

[midnight sierra]

And you are doing it right

[stiff helm]

ah gotcha

[stiff helm]

i figured I was, cuz if I wasn't then wesley and generic are also doing it wrong 6w6

so you're doing it the same way I presume?

[midnight sierra]

There's no other options.

[stiff helm]

well I'm not an expert!! maybe there was and I didn't know

not sure why that's happening w/ the pipe then, yeah

[fallow drum]

You got an intended Interior for Selen? I noticed the only Vanilla one you setup was Facility with a weight of 1

[midnight sierra]

??

I don't

[analog bridge]

here, have a thing

[midnight sierra]

thats cool

[stiff helm]

what are the red pixels?

[midnight sierra]

trees

[stiff helm]

ooooooh gotcha

[analog bridge]

in hindsight, i shouldve made them 3 pixels, and the light posts 2

ah well

[stiff helm]

@midnight sierra try using the catwalk tag or any other tag instead of metal

I think the metal tag might just make it so the footstep sound is the same as whatever is below the object?

[midnight sierra]

It won't work

[stiff helm]

yeah the metal tag doesn't work

[solar iris]

yo just wanna say zeranos moon is awesome, was playing it with my friends earlier today, will prolly check out synthesis and vacuity a lil later

anyhow, i found a few bugs:

• landmines and turrets dont spawn inside the interior
• upon teleporting through the wormhole, the ladder goes too high
• the log next to the wormhole doesnt work sadly, picking it up doesnt give the collected message
• you can walk off the edge of the map
• couldnt insert a lung inside the port in the elevator (the elevator had run out of power, but idk if that has anything to do with it)
• lungs turned pink after having them on the ship and going to the company moon
• jumping from the crane to the wormhole makes you take fall damage, although you can kinda land on the side of the wall to negate this (very minor bug)
• bees sometimes vanish/disappear into the abyss, meaning free beehives

i also have some questions on game mechanics i didnt rlly understand:

• sometimes upon fueling the elevator, it gives me an error saying i burnt my hand. is this because the elevator was already at max power?
• does going to deeper floors mean more loot/more monsters/bigger interiors or no?
• does the wormhole, or rather the place it teleports you to have some kind of purpose? i found a few structures like a water tower and the adamance/rend hut, but i didnt find much else
• what does the radiation weather do? (i was on ship duty so if it does something cool to the interior then my bad lmao)

also: is there compatibility with facilitymeltdown

[wheat prism]

Whenever you go down a floor it generates everything again, meaning you do get more monsters and scrap. Interior size doesn't change

I also wouldn't count on it working with meltdown

If you wanna run meltdown and it, consider using PizzaProbability and setting the meltdown chance on zeranos to 0

[solar iris]

i meant like does the amount of scrap and monsters increase the farther down u go? kinda seems pointless to use ur power going down super deep if it doesnt rlly change anythin

[wheat prism]

Ok so if the scrap set to spawn is exactly 15, it will spawn 15 again on the next floor regardless of how much you grabbed on the previous floor

Same with monsters, it will spawn the same amount as previous floor regardless of if there were any killed

The point is that there's endless floors and endless scrap, it just depends on how low you wanna go

[solar iris]

ah i see so its more of an 'infite level' kinda thing than an 'infinitely rising difficulty' thing

got it ty

this mods so cool ❤️

[midnight sierra]

You can’t fuel it when moving

Radiation weather fills map with damage triggers and it makes some sound

Portal is a feature of the map that leads u to the message

Lungs turn pink because it changes mesh material

and when moon is unloaded it can’t find that material

Landmines and turrets do spawn.

[midnight sierra]

You should play Vacuity for like 6 times

You will see what I mean if u play

I also updated Synthesis like 2 months ago

Tell me If someone tried

[fallow drum]

do you plan to update Vacuity soon? Last I played on it I recall getting some performance issues

I wanted to bring it back recently but saw it hadn't been updated

lol

[solar iris]

• it was stationary and i couldnt insert the lung... weird
• good to know, though i wandered around outside and didnt get damaged... maybe i was above the radiation?
• ahh ok that makes sense, will explore some more
• oh lmao that also makes sense
• rlly? i dont think ive seen a single mine or turret thus far, only secure doors (fyi the only mods im using besides zeranos are morecompany and revivecompany)

imma try vacuity and synthesis next

also ps: i noticed theres security cameras scattered around the facility, do those have a function/lore reason?

[wheat prism]

no performance problems i'm aware of

runs basically as good as any other moon in my profile

[fallow drum]

Btw can you do me a favor while you're here?

Can you see if adding Recede and Notezylib is what causes the Tesla Gates to not all be lit up, I compared your profile to mine and that is the only thing I can guess that might cause it

I wanna see if someone else can repro it before I bug report it

[wheat prism]

I'm checking GI right now but I can try later

for control i have these 2 pics, to know that they do glow (without notezylib)

[fallow drum]

Yeah I'm trying to wonder if it might be my Blackout settings in SBT or something with Notezylib and Recede somehow

[wheat prism]

doubt its sbt

i had it on true blackout for a while and they still lit

[fallow drum]

I had doubts too

[wheat prism]

hmmm

i think that is the problem

the first one i saw was lit but this one isn't

[fallow drum]

Ah so it is Notezylib

Super strange

[midnight sierra]

There was camera room tile

it got removed because it was buggy

[midnight sierra]

Maybee

I want to make a new feature for it, like scripted thing

Same for the Selen moon

Because now it doesn’t have any scripts

[wheat prism]

It would be really cool to see the camera room be implemented eventually

What was buggy about it anyway

[midnight sierra]

Bad performance

and well, runtime material creation

with render textures and assigning them for every camera

Everything worked great until It started crashing my game

[solar iris]

Well we do have the ship monitor face cama now and they aren't super laggy so maybe using zeekerss's system could work

Also u could have just one camera display on the screen if u had multiple

Switch between em like five night freddy

[midnight sierra]

https://tenor.com/view/five-nights-at-freddys-five-night-freddy-freddy-gif-23631661

[stiff helm]

to be fair the ship facecam is so crunchy so that's prolly why there's little to no lag there

[solar iris]

That's fair

Still, seeing my teammates on a camera running from a thumper in 240p would be hilarious

[solar iris]

i keep getting an error message when playing zeranos that tells me that the moon wont work since im not using zeranosfacility

however, im not experiencing any major issues except an error code on the power display in the elevator

nothing is rlly affected

and i cant find zeranosfacility on thunderstore

[midnight sierra]

Because it’s already there

[solar iris]

huh

strange

ty tho, that explains why the level even loads in the first place

[midnight sierra]

eventually

aaaaaaaaaaa

[errant bluff]

[midnight sierra]

https://tenor.com/view/tame-impala-currents-tame-impala-eventually-gif-10889314917520098134

[fiery slate]

Just let it happen

[spare patio]

yo, does Zeranos have other weathers by default or it sticks to the two seasons and the 2 new weather types?

[midnight sierra]

It has other weathers

with other I mean vanilla ones

[full orchid]

Hmm since the 4 weathers are registered via WeatherRegistry, I wonder if that technically means they could be set and appear on other moons or if it uniquely only works on Zeranos

Cause imagine a vanilla moon (e.g. Adamance) with Autumn

[midnight sierra]

They should work on other moons

[midnight sierra]

Autumn and Winter won’t work

[full orchid]

Hm, duly noted

I'll have to see how Radiation feels v.s. smth like Toxic Smog from Lethal Elements

[grand knot]

shat the bed

[elfin swift]

shot the sofa

[midnight sierra]

why

[wheat prism]

V73 had a unity engine and netcode update

So all your stuff is broken

As far as moons go its up to LLL but ik you have some unique scripts with netcode (especially zeranos) that might need to be recomped

[sudden ridge]

Gotta do this to any DLLs with networking: #dev-general message

[midnight sierra]

Yeah ik

I think Unity updated all their editor versions to fix some “security” issues

[wheat prism]

yeah

[cold hare]

Can't wait for Zeranos to be playable in the V73. I've got a cool thing I've added for compat for the moon with Brutal :3

[elfin swift]

does that mean that the events are refreshing with each floor?
-# if yes, that's peak then

[cold hare]

That's the plan~

[elfin swift]

[midnight sierra]

wait tf

someone made Obscura before me lol

[elfin swift]

like the name? or the moon as a whole

https://tenor.com/view/cat-cute-shy-pallas-cat-manul-cat-gif-26196386

[midnight sierra]

Yeah I mean the name

[elfin swift]

lol

@eager bolt wonderful job partypooper

[eager bolt]

I'm sorry 😭

[stiff helm]

I bet you can find a better name kite, dw!!!

[dusky thistle]

@midnight sierra Is Zeranos, Vacuity, Synthesis, and Selen, v73 compatible?

[midnight sierra]

Idk

I have to check them

Maybe I need to update their code or som

[dusky thistle]

I think if your using the netcode patcher, you need to use the new version.

[midnight sierra]

maybe

[cold hare]

If I recall, I think it is?

[dusky thistle]

@midnight sierra Any status update on when the moon mods will be updated to v73? No rush.

[midnight sierra]

currently I am working on a 3 projects

so idk

[fallow drum]

@midnight sierra Since Zeranos is broken rn on V73, I was wondering if the Zeranos facility could be uploaded as a seperate mod so the interior could still be used

[wheat prism]

Its 1 new tile u can wait

[fallow drum]

It's more so cus the Vanilla Facility is broken with enemy pathing at times and I wanna disable it

[sudden ridge]

It's just that one goofy jump's OffMeshLinks

Don't think Zeranos facility changes that regardless

[stiff helm]

you mean THE facility jump?

how is that broken wth D:

i didnt know that

[sudden ridge]

Enemies jumping across unexpectedly (and hitting you), but it's always been like that

[stiff helm]

like them just going over the offmesh link, tp'ing to the other side and hitting you when they were just supposed to go past?

[sudden ridge]

Ye pretty much

[stiff helm]

that is such a small issue ok

[sudden ridge]

[stiff helm]

i thought they just. didn't jump thru after v73 due to some weird lil change that was made or something

I wouldn't call that vanilla facility being broken, it's just a small fucked up quirk

in any case fractured complex should be a fine replacement

[wheat prism]

Thats such a miniscule thing to install what's basically a replica of said interior to fix

Imo just save the ram and deal with it

[stiff helm]

i don't even think it'd fix it tho

[errant bluff]

lunx "nitpick" ara

[stiff helm]

well like I do understand the nitpick tho it could fuck you over

but it's reaaaally itty bitty tiny

[sudden ridge]

That's because it happened

[errant bluff]

i think bringing it up to one of the fixes mods (to see if they can potentially patch it) and dealing with it for now is far more worthwhile than installing a whole interior for it lol

[midnight sierra]

It won’t work tho

[fallow drum]

People suggested I replace the Vanilla Facility with Fractured until Zeekerss updates the game since next update will touch up facility, I just missed the Zeranos Facility due to it's unique extra tiles

[fallow drum]

Okay so to clarify Lyra like never fronts, and a masked was walking up to her and teleported into her as if there was an offmeshlink there despite it walking on the railing lmao it's just such a weird vanilla bug that we've somehow never encountered til we were on Titan 😂

So it wasn't really her being nitpicky more just like "Wtf I wonder if the Zeranos Facility fixed that"

[stiff helm]

oh didn't think about maskeds yea

that is a bit of a fucked up spot there

[dreamy cobalt]

is only zeranos unplayable in v73 or are the other moons also broken?

[idle bolt]

all of them

they all used custom scripts

rip John (what my group called the dude on vacuity)

[stiff helm]

no fucking way vacuity got taken out back and shot

that was like a top 5 for me

https://tenor.com/view/sideshow-bob-rakes-trapped-the-simpsons-hit-gif-5683040

[midnight sierra]

https://tenor.com/view/why-do-u-ping-ping-discord-discord-ping-ping-why-did-you-ping-gif-8379994546500872858

[idle bolt]

I was asking if it was being worked on but realized someone already asked sorry

[midnight sierra]

ah

well idk

[cold hare]

Well take your time 🙂 it comes out when it comes out. We are all just excited

[midnight sierra]

I'm just working on my personal projects 😭

no time for LC

but I'm gonna do it

one day

believe me

[idle bolt]

at least you are active to say this lol

didnt drop off the face of the earth

[errant bluff]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-sus-alright-winky-gif-8546873758164074526

[grand knot]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1366565488817213440/1387934775943364618/IMG_0277.gif

[errant bluff]

https://tenor.com/view/meowl-cat-tomato-throwing-tomatoes-boooo-gif-6327944490161636114

[gloomy yoke]

Meow meow!

[stiff helm]

fuck off pawsy

[midnight sierra]

im a new soul

[grand knot]

zeranos shot dead behind empra

[stray carbon]

Sometimes I wonder how's Vauity and Synthesis?

[idle bolt]

fried

dead

shot dead outside arby's

[errant bluff]

synthesis got updated to v72

vacuity shot dead in atlanta

[idle bolt]

synthesis is still broken btw

the custom app broke in v73

so you cant use the elevator

[errant bluff]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-discontent-gif-13111648455634427361

[stiff helm]

i presume vacu is too?

https://tenor.com/view/smiling-friends-smiling-friends-vanish-smiling-friends-sand-dust-smiling-friends-old-man-smiling-friends-funny-gif-3985486506214228246

[idle bolt]

all 3 the moons were obliterated

not even technically playable like some stuff

[stiff helm]

please someone make VacuityPatch PLEASE

[wheat prism]

Vacuity cant open the door to main because the button doesnt work

Fire exit still works though I think

[idle bolt]

yeah but like, we all know the reason we goto Vacuity

[stiff helm]

vacu fire is pain incarnate i ain't gonna lie

which is part of the reason why I like it but also

que

[idle bolt]

JOHN(aka what my group calls the dude at the desk)

[stiff helm]

PLEAAASE i need janitor jimmy back

and boombox bob...

and the dead dude...

[midnight sierra]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-staring-cat-stare-stare-cat-staring-cat-cat-looking-gif-2942271292240810632

[grand knot]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1037453695538966548/1082893474791178240/hamer.gif

its just cat gifs

ITS ALL CAT GIFS

JAJAJAJAJAJJAJAJAJAJJAJAJAJA

[errant bluff]

https://tenor.com/view/baby-deer-animals-gif-7814399

[midnight sierra]

wait

LLL doesn't work in v73?

what's going on

[stiff helm]

it has not been updated to version 73, no

you need to use LLLU (LethalLevelLoaderUpdated)

[grand knot]

but what about the network stuff

oh wait its LLL

oops

[idle bolt]

base doesnt but we hase LLLU which overrides it

so LLL stuff works, just custom scripts that werent updated(like all 3 of the moons) are broken

[midnight sierra]

[idle bolt]

LLLU https://thunderstore.io/c/lethal-company/p/pacoito/LethalLevelLoaderUpdated

[midnight sierra]

this is how vacuity supposed to look like

[dusky thistle]

You need to update to the new netcode patcher which is a recompile

Unless you already did that

[midnight sierra]

I already did

since I have a lot of LC projects I can't find vacuity lol

Obscura

21.07.24

[dusky thistle]

Nooo not vacuity. That one is my favorite

It’s the one with the changing seasons right

Or is that another

[midnight sierra]

Yeah

[elfin swift]

it was hydrated
then dried

[midnight sierra]

tnbhd just dropped ultrasound

[midnight sierra]

vacuity update after i find my project files and listen to whole album

[midnight sierra]

Vacuity Update v1.0.6

Changelog: https://thunderstore.io/c/lethal-company/p/luakite/Vacuity_Moon/changelog/

[errant bluff]

[stiff helm]

OUGH YES MY GOAT IS BACK YES YEEES

[idle bolt]

with this I just need a v73 version of derelict and can be content

[stiff helm]

I will not be content until there's a fix mod for the black water 😔

looking at what the root of the problem is and the ways people can fix it manually (requires updating the mod) I doubt there'll ever be a fix

but it makes me SAD

[idle bolt]

I havent had the black water pop up on any moons I can remember

besides generic's

which is being updated

[midnight sierra]

I get some errors on synthesis vs proj

[earnest pasture]

update unity OOOoooooOOOOO

[midnight sierra]

I might look into it later tomorrow

[stiff helm]

any moon with transparent water that hasn't been updated

[earnest pasture]

https://tenor.com/view/dog-hypnotizing-hypnotizing-dog-hyptonizing-you-hypnotizing-you-собака-гипнотизирует-gif-14437882061713379771

[stiff helm]

I will idiot, I'm talking about abandoned moons here lol

[idle bolt]

yeah bit I havent seen that : P

guess my stuff is updated

[stiff helm]

yeye sorry I just meant that's usually where it pops up

[idle bolt]

even with 160 moons

[earnest pasture]

RUDE

[idle bolt]

bc im crazy

[stiff helm]

Dreg, Serenity, some Rosie's I think

[stiff helm]

moonfiend real???

[idle bolt]

oh yeah rosies I just use ones without water rn

by coinciendnce

[stiff helm]

that's what you get for trying to do unityhypnosis on me

[idle bolt]

tho some the ones I liked have broken shaders its seems

[stiff helm]

you're rude!!!!

[idle bolt]

so I dont use them

[stiff helm]

yea it's sad

[idle bolt]

I miss idiosyn

[earnest pasture]

bleh bleh

[stiff helm]

what's wrong with idiosyn?

I checked it out in v73 and it looked cool

didn't really notice anything

that might very well be cuz I only tried it after v73 tho, idk!

[earnest pasture]

unless you have like, water or transparent stuffs or custom code, old moons in general should be fine

[idle bolt]

literal skybox

[elfin swift]

Cube descends...

https://tenor.com/view/excited-fuego-gif-26833875

[stiff helm]

I don't notice anything (phone screen in the bus)

[idle bolt]

tho MAYBE atlas was bugging out there so I gotta test

[stiff helm]

is there a square at the top is that it?

[idle bolt]

yeah

its more noticable in game

[stiff helm]

ah ok, I thought that was intentional ngl

[idle bolt]

I dont remember it

[stiff helm]

cuz of the weird walls that prevent you from going OOB

[stiff helm]

like that's how I perceived it idk if that's the case pff

[idle bolt]

the we have summit

[idle bolt]

lol

partially fixed with a sponge setting but this lighting i fucky

[grand knot]

Dude.. Fuck yes.

[stiff helm]

yeah I'm aware of that one, huge loss

[idle bolt]

too bad rosie is MIA as she was overhualing some the more lackluster stuff

ichor rework was nice