Lethal Phones

[north rapids]

because im young and shit, and i play with relatively older balder people like @wintry magnet so i was like "how do i use this, im too young for this"

[lone prairie]

lmao

[wary needle]

You arent the only one. I knew how to because im a nerd. My friends on the other hand didnt.

[north rapids]

technology is too old, you'd think i'd know at 18+ years of ag

[manic pilot]

oh no the younger generation................

[wary needle]

ive so far seen

• clicking on the digit (didnt do anything)
• dragging the 0 to the digit you want (didnt do anything)
• trying to use the number keys (started shimmying)

[clever barn]

lmaooooo

cant wait for when someone forks this mod and turns them into smartphones

[wary needle]

I did have a diabolical idea

^that^ but you have to type out the name of who you want to call.

[lone prairie]

[north rapids]

scoops' next creation, the lethal flip phone

[lone prairie]

Get this man a shield Jitterbug

[wary needle]

me when my friends have to call 999 666 7777 44 444 9 666 666 333 (YoshiWoof)

[gentle sage]

if i have to use T9 again im uninstalling

[manic pilot]

Using that to text your friend

[wary needle]

I didnt get a smartphone for a looooooong ass time so i am STILL used to multitap

[gentle sage]

most texting i ever did with a T9 was a "k"

[wary needle]

If i ever do like a roadtrip or something i might genuinely get a fliphone and go no-smartphone for the whole duration of it

-# no this is not related to the japan roadtrip that ludwig & michael reeves are currently doing where they have no phones or maps

(dedicated cameras are nicer for pictures anyways, and i know how to read a map so...)

Not to get offtopic but I do actually miss the times where people didnt feel like i had to be reachable 24/7, and its been a good decision to just have set hours where i am simply not existant.

[inland hatch]

little funfact, when hammering out the original visual style and concept for the phone, there were two specific things we drew from smashed together conceptually

gameboy advance sp obviously being one

the other is this

https://skysedge.com/telecom/RUSP/index.html

fantastic project

[manic pilot]

i love it

[wary needle]

That is amazing

[inland hatch]

the original few model drafts didn't even have a screen because i was mostly drawing from that haha

it was once we decided on adding a screen that it really took shape into what it ended up looking like

[wintry magnet]

You damn young folks and your smart technology crap!

[violet delta]

lethal pagers

bringing out the inner yakuza with stupid codes

[clever barn]

crosspost from mirage thread, idk if this mod is the cause or if mirage is. it probably affects phone masks as well but i had those turned off

[karmic nova]

sorry i broke the reference for lethalphones cuz i changed the namespace for the MimicVoice class

just need to recompile with a new version of mirage

[warped zenith]

Had this spam the logs for about a minute before going away.

[05:57:53.3351632] [Error : Unity Log] NullReferenceException
Stack trace:
Scoops.service.AudioSourceStorage.GetAudioVolumeAtPos (UnityEngine.Vector3 recordPos) (at <fe580e0ffecf472bb226a3994190c3ce>:IL_00B7)
Scoops.service.AudioSourceManager.UpdateAudioSourceStorages () (at <fe580e0ffecf472bb226a3994190c3ce>:IL_005C)
Scoops.service.AudioSourceManager.Update () (at <fe580e0ffecf472bb226a3994190c3ce>:IL_008D)

Also - I noticed recently it seems the headphones from the switchboard aren't rendering on playermodels anymore? Seems neither hosts nor clients can see them on each other, but the headset does disappear when its picked up + the first person headset thing is on.

[karmic nova]

it's because of this, sorry about that 😓

[warped zenith]

Hey @craggy topaz wanted to finally ping ya during a reasonable hour to let you know that mirage got a super cool update but its giving it compatibility issues with phones that would need to be updated on lethalphone's end. Also my bug report(s) above this post too

[craggy topaz]

Whoops, been away for a few days. I'll get the compatability updated for that.

[craggy topaz]

Just uploaded 1.3.15 which should fix the compat issue with Mirage

[craggy topaz]

Interesting, haven't seen that null reference before. I'll look and see if I can repro it. Was anything odd happening at that time or was it standard gameplay?

Also the headphones have never shown on playermodels. They show on your screen like your visor, but other players have never been able to see it.
A bit much effort/didn't want to conflict with cosmetics and custom models. Maybe in the future I'll add it in though, it shouldn't be too rough to set up.

[warped zenith]

YO that was fast thank you!

Sorry I can't remember now what was happening, but I don't think it was anything noticeable.

That's crazy mandela effect if the headphones have never shown on playermodels. I could have sworn I saw a teammate wearing them at some point.... but I guess it was just those "ear" looking things on the playermodel lol.

If possible to make them show that would be cool though! I'm sure that would have to be a config to not mess with other cosmetics.

Oh - one more thing: I've noticed sometimes players get stuck doing the phone hold animation with no phones in their hands. Seems to happen more often as a client (as in, client sees host holding up left arm with nothing in it, especially when spectating). Not sure how to easily reproduce that, but I've seen it happen quite a few times. Just wanted to mention!

[dense ravine]

Can you make it where when someone hangs up it makes this iconic noise? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O7iEN_HF-vk

[clever barn]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=noE5oTMurKI or maybe this sound if they die while on call?

[wary needle]

Yeah i suggested it a while back, its on the list of ideas ^^

[clever barn]

question, is htere anything that can be done to make this less blurry?

[formal ferry]

If you hold z instead of clicking z, its stays HQ until you let go

Thats how i deal with it

[clever barn]

interesting

[outer horizon]

wear glasses

[glad bolt]

Is the mod more stable now after a few updates? I played with my friends a few months ago and we were having issues with players not hearing certain players

[charred light]

It's been working great with our group so I would say yall should probably check it out again ye

[clever barn]

this gets spammed every time a phone connection is established

like whenever someone is on a call with someone else

[subtle meadow]

I have a bit of a weird bug where sometimes, the first time when loading into a save file after starting up the game, you can't take out your phone, phone numbers aren't generated and when picking up any object it duplicates it in another inventory slot and can't be accessed. The fix is to just disconnect and reopen the save again. This has been like that for a while and it could easily be a compatibility issue with another mod. Since I have only really used it in a modpack but I'd have to do more testing to find out which other mods may be causing this. But first of all I'm interested if anyone experienced the same thing happening.

[subtle meadow]

It was all my mistake. When testing it turned out it was 100% because of corporate restructure, which I had still installed in my modpack despite apparently no longer being updated anyway. But there is no need for it anymore anyways since its features got replaced.

[dusk galleon]

I'm sure you've heard it before whoever made this mod, you should totally add a facetime feature, I know OpenBodyCams can do it.

Either way amazing mod super funny!

[clever barn]

@craggy topaz there is an issue with this mod, where masks that have used a phone don't reset the static filter when not using it

they also don't show that they're holding a phone but i'm guessing thats more a thing of mirage overriding it because of holding items

[craggy topaz]

Wonder if a Mirage update might have changed the item holding portion. I'll look into it when I get a chance next, thanks for reporting!

[manic pilot]

I think LethalPhones broke with V70

[wanton ember]

yeah I’m getting the same issue

@craggy topaz

[craggy topaz]

Oh boy, new game update time.
What's broken? Is it just not working at all, any errors?

I'll see if I can make time today to get a fix out.

[craggy topaz]

Not seeing any errors or issues on my end.
I've rebuilt the mod for v70 and pushed that up to thunderstore to see if that fixes whatever issue you were having.

[manic pilot]

that did the trick, the phone wouldn't appear and the switchboard would say "null"

[clever jay]

idk if this is some sort of compatibility error with verylatecompany or either one of the mods are broken

but some players can open the phone and others cant

the ones who cant wouldnt appear on the phone clipboard either

[clever barn]

give it a try with lobby control instead

i wouldn't recommend any form of latecompany

[clever jay]

thought that was broken

[clever barn]

it might be but latecompany isn't gonna help you much

lobbycontrol at least tries to fix some latejoin problems

latecompany and verylatecompany don't

[forest token]

Yea phones still broken

lobbycontrol is being used

[forest token]

it crashes servers upon another player trying to join

I'll try to get logs, it was happening yesterday, but I'll need to wait for my friend to get on later

[abstract dune]

Could someone maybe tell me how I edit the top part of the phone? I could drag an edited image onto the lower part, but that same easy way doesn't seem to work for the top part because it obscures the screen.

[silver beacon]

i believe the way i did it was just reapplying the screen texture after applying the custom texture, it should be in the materials folder if i remember correctly

might not be the best way to do it but it certainly worked for me, same thing applies to the tape texture and the little green light on the antena

[abstract dune]

ah! thank you that seems to work

[craggy topaz]

Just pushed up 1.3.17 with a fix for errors when re-joining a lobby after being kicked.

[craggy topaz]

I'll look into this as well if you can get me logs and a modlist.

[abstract dune]

It's an abomination, but it's mine 🙂

[median kestrel]

it's beautiful...

[silver beacon]

YOO THIS DESIGN IS RAD

[forest token]

01975638-112d-3996-bf21-c7bfa53b60d6

If anyone is willing to help recreate the bug with me so I could get logs that would be wonderful

[craggy topaz]

Thanks for the modlist. So it crashes every time a another player joins?

[forest token]

Yeah thats what happened

[upbeat rapids]

I got my friend group to use this and they like it. I think it might be a mainstay in our otherwise almost entirely vanilla pack

[gilded lintel]

we need upgraded phone with video call mechanic
(we dont actually need that but would be a good feature)

[graceful kettle]

We need to put a switchboard on a cruiser fr fr

Ship on wheels

[forest token]

Or atleast a car number

[graceful kettle]

yes

I am tryna put the entire ship on wheels

to make ship operator more fun

already got a terminal

just need a switchboard and teleporter

poot teleport here

[tight rock]

Holy you just gave me a good idea (thats not related to this mod): what if we could have a megaphone/microphone in our car and a big speaker on top of it? This way we could search for others (its better to hear someone coming to find you than find the way back to the ship yourself)

Or we could just annoy others by saying some nonsense

Or we could even distract eyeless dogs this way

[graceful kettle]

Smart

[tight rock]

i know right? People always told me im the smartest

[violet radish]

switchboard seems to explode my fps when im looking at it

any clue why?

[idle badge]

Is there maybe a way to customize phone numbers for players?

[clever barn]

there was a mod that did that, but got deprecated

i assume because its config would be shared with modpacks and thus everyone would have the same number

[marble turret]

months months ago I had a morecompany esc mod and lethal phones and everyone after the 4th player had a bunch of just phone problems

was that a known thing or just me

[glad bolt]

Oh yeah I can also confirm that with more than 4 people weird stuff happens

basically some players stop hearing other players either only hear them while on the phone or not at all

[tight rock]

So it still does happen, right?

And does it only happen with more company installed or with any other mods increasing player count

[glad bolt]

Not sure, but very likely still happens, would need to test more. I also used more company but I suspect it might be more of an issue with increasing the player count rather than that specific mod

[tight rock]

Yea it sounds like lethal phones doesnt know what to do with more than 4 players

But thats weird that players cant hear each other outsides phones

Sounds like the voice chat issues might be more company specific

[glad bolt]

sometimes they would be completely muted for sbd else no matter what iirc

[tight rock]

But idk, im an idiot trying to sound smart

[glad bolt]

after a restart the issue could affect a different player

probably the join order or something

but yeah we played with the mod like 3 months ago so dunno

[hoary blaze]

This happens with custom suit models, the text moves depending on the suit

and also happens in what we cound call the z position of the clipboard when zooming in, you cant see the text

its fine if you dont want to fix it since custom models are a bit weird

i mean i probably just will enable the switchboard by default but just letting you know

Btw, this is one of the best mods i have ever tried! Its full of features and super compatible with everything and does not have any bug (Excluding custom suits)

[clever barn]

The blur on zooming in only happens when you let go of Z

You can just hold Z and it won't blur until you release it

Its a weird thing with depth of field and idk what mod changed it

[hoary blaze]

I mean the name position in the clipboard

I think I can change blur and depth of field with sponge

[tight rock]

I have the same problem

finally someone noticed it

[forest token]

Is there a way to remove or greatly reduce the impact of connection issues?

cuz right now, any time someone calls someone its SO staticky and really hard to hear

[hoary blaze]

Maybe because of the settings of quality distance like how far away you are from the ship?
EDIT: It's called range in the settings

Buying a radar booster makes the quality higher

[sterile silo]

Reduce static noise.

[sterile silo]

No such setting.

[hoary blaze]

Bro there are settings for phone connectivity

Like if you are far far from the ship the quality becomes worse

[sterile silo]

There's no such setting in config.

[hoary blaze]

Look better

[hoary blaze]

I remember nerfing in my modpack how much the switchboard changes connectivity quality/range

Yeah the range

[sterile silo]

Switchboard just boosts range. There's no "ship range" option.

[hoary blaze]

But there is a ship range

[sterile silo]

Where?

[hoary blaze]

Nvm, I mean you can't change it but it's there in the code yk I thought you could change it

A fix would be boosting the hell out of the switchboard and make it cheap or maybe not

[sterile silo]

Well, they asked for a way to reduce impact of connection issues. Which Static sound adjust does. Increasing range would just get rid of them entirely.

[tight rock]

Chat, I have neither been playing Lethal Company in a while or tested lethal phones with more company

Is this mod still broken with More Company?

Cuz I heard that people had issues with it

[lost nacelle]

UHHHHHH

Its better

I think

[marble turret]

I haven't heard that it was fixed. I'd just stick with with walkies for now

[lost nacelle]

I stopped using it tbh

[tight rock]

I hope it is

Cant really check rn cuz im like 500km away from home

[marble turret]

I don't think it is

[tight rock]

Damn, I hope you're wrong then and it fixed itself idk

[marble turret]

I hope to a little bit

[tight rock]

Hm, yea that would be stupid if it somehow fixed itself

[marble turret]

I liked the mod and it fit well in the game but was honestly op a lil

[tight rock]

Like how would that happen

With some magic?

[lost nacelle]

Whens the last time u played

[marble turret]

Like they made walkies 100% useless to buy and that's like one of the core mechanics of hte game

[tight rock]

Uhhhh a month ago?

I was playing WAY too much of Minecraft beta 1.7.3 multiplayer

[lost nacelle]

then uh...

No...

They did update it

But like

[tight rock]

[lost nacelle]

I dont remember a more company bug

What happens?

[tight rock]

Hold on let me find that message

[marble turret]

There is no patches for More Company in the changelog

Basically people who joined had like multiple phones on their screen and it was just really buggy for the 5th player and highe

[tight rock]

(sorry if you get a ping because of that reply lol)

But this one

Damn

Why every game got problems with 5th player

Its either for 4 or 6

Never played one that had a specific mode for 5 players

[lost nacelle]

I HAVE

NEVER SEEN THIS

How weird...

[marble turret]

Well it wasn't jsut me who had this issue so idk.

1-4 players it's 100% fine

[lost nacelle]

Alr

[manic pilot]

it's not broken as far as i know, i've used with my friends no problem!

[median kestrel]

haven't had this issue

[marble turret]

https://tenor.com/view/huh-dog-hug-dog-question-mark-dog-question-mark-gif-14144426802562365039

[sterile silo]

Config exists.

Making phones hang up if you put them away is probably the easiest way to balance them.

Which is an option in the config.

First time I hear about issues with MC tbh.

[marble turret]

I don't see how that's still not making walkies completely useless

But I had issues and someone else. Maybe it was a mod incompat so there might not be an issue now

[sterile silo]

Don't need to remember phones. Always active. Everyone can hear everyone who has walkies.

Is that not enough?

Can make phones purchasable if that's not enough.

[marble turret]

They have no battery, have extra ringtones and customization. No ones buying walkies when that is purchased. If they where purchaseable per person and could lose them, that might be idfferent

Like buying a pro flashlight but it stays. It would make normal ones trash

Unless config has changed, there isn't enough config options to balance that out imo

But just for sake of curiousity, I"ll try to and see where i get 😭

[sterile silo]

Trust me. Hang up on putaway will get annoying fast. You'll want walkies.

Literally can't do anything if you're talking, if you want to keep talking.

You can also make walkies better with stuff like reserved slot.

[marble turret]

https://tenor.com/view/huh-intereasting-gif-27177481

Hopefully I can add them. They do look fun. But I'll have to wait to see

Trying to make suits rn and my ocd is killing me

they have to be perfec

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[sterile silo]

As for customisation. Can turn that off too.

I'll agree that their fun outweights walkies either way.

Ringing your friend when he sneaks past dogs.

[hoary blaze]

the other day we were six and everything worked perfectly

[tight rock]

Make the phones unlockable after paying like 60 credits maybe

Or more

[marble turret]

it would 120% be more than 60 haha

I'll get back to it and see. Rn I'm stuck on suits

So many suits

[tight rock]

That way you can choose between walkie talkies which take slots and require charging and phones which got shit quality

[tight rock]

wdym

You have too many to choose from or you just want to remove some of them

[marble turret]

I have too many to put prices on and make

[tight rock]

Cuz I also had similar problem

Damn, I wont help with this one

Never thought of making each one cost money

[marble turret]

My modpack is a modded vanilla + experience. So every suit costs money

Though I scale the default suits

So depending on what I settle for, you could either have 4 or 6 default suits

[tight rock]

[marble turret]

since base game had technically 1.5 default suits

[tight rock]

So far it sounds way better than the shitpack that I "made" (still WIP after a whole month cuz uhhhh... im lazy)

[marble turret]

I mean I'm still working on it but it's being updated daily if you want the mod

It's called Lethal Constancy Suit Connections

[tight rock]

Alr, i'll take a look at it when I come home from vacation

Seems way better than configuring all of it myself

[forest token]

How can you disable or decrease the static? I cant find any configs

[clever barn]

I don't think you can

[tight rock]

(its from github since I'm too lazy to open the normal config)
but this option should be it

[jovial horizon]

This mod is incompatible with the butterfixes restore film grain option, it prevents the the film grain and glowing effect from applying.
It is also incompatible with the emblem experimental shaders, which are also prevented from applying, these features make the menu look a lot better for those who like to use them.

This is what the menu looks for me like without lethal phones installed.

[jovial horizon]

and this is what it looks like with it installed

[tight rock]

i guess this mod is just getting old and its breaking some stuff...

damn, why does it happen to the best mods

[jovial horizon]

nah this issue has been a thing forever

i just couldnt figure out what was causing it in my pack

until now

its because, or so iv been told, the personalize phone setting adds a new layer to the menu

which overwrites menu changes

so basically the two things i listed

[jovial horizon]

specifically effects and shaders

more company has the same issue

but

buttery said she could PROBABLY patch it on her end

but that ofc wouldnt apply to emblems effects

[jovial horizon]

and idk if shes planning to anytime soon

since

its not a game breaking bug

which i understand

but i hope for aesthetics sake

it gets patched here

🙏

other than that this mod works flawlessly still

[sterile silo]

last updated in june
old

[tight rock]

Uhh really? I havent really looked at the update date lol

Mb then

I just thought if its already having issues with mods and the game itself (e.g. inspecting stuff like clipboards makes them blurry) then it just wasnt updated

[civic heron]

I have no idea if you have a thread or not but I can't find it so this is the closest thing I can do @silver beacon

I'm using your MayaLethalPhoneStuff mod and I can't find any of these ringtones that says they are in the mod but I don't see them at all.

[silver beacon]

im gonna be honest i think i named them wrong or somehow forgot to put them in the export folder 💀

i was hoping no one would notice so i dont have to take 5 minutes to recompile it lmao

i'll get on it sometime soon im dealing with finals atm, literally at this very moment lmao

[north rapids]

Good luck

I hope your finals become uh, not so final

[silver beacon]

i just finished them hehe

they did become final. finally

[silver beacon]

turns out it wasnt even brought into the project file at all somehow lmao, i swear i remember doing it. update will appear for mod managers in like 2 hours or something

i didnt even check if it works in game but theres no reason why it shouldnt, let me know if theres a problem

[civic heron]

thank you!!!

[silver beacon]

[north rapids]

peak

[median kestrel]

w

[median kestrel]

https://tenor.com/view/abner-krill-polka-dot-man-the-suicide-squad-tss-dceu-gif-25072910

bro vanished wtf

[civic heron]

Posted it in a better spot

#help-and-troubleshooting message

[median kestrel]

makes sense LOL

[digital totem]

Does it still work with V73?
Me and my friends can't open the phone

[clever barn]

Lots of stuff doesn't work on v73

Switch back to v72

[digital totem]

Okay

Do you think this mod will be fixed?

[clever barn]

maybe

depends on if scoops has time

[craggy topaz]

Just updated the mod, it's now recompiled with the new netcode patcher so it should work on v73.
Backreading a bit, I wasn't aware of the phone menu messing with menu shaders. I'll need to look into that more when I have time.

Sadly I've been busy for a while, so I've mainly been focusing on gamebreaking bugs and such.

[digital totem]

Thank you!

[median kestrel]

friend disconnected mid round and i'm getting this spammed rn

(also super happy this got updated this fast, great work!!)

[zinc hornet]

For whatever reason DawnLib really doesn't like the phone clipboard

Doesn't seem to cause any issues ingame though so idk

[north rapids]

ill take a look soon, it might just be getting spawned too soon to get picked up properly (but that's fine cuz it auto spawns itself, it doesnt need to be in a save file)

but send me your modpack, i need to check some debug logs for why the unlockables part errors

[zinc hornet]

019a4b9e-b75e-73bf-9e91-4a1adf4491ac It's even more of a mess than before thanks to v73, but maybe you can get smth useful out of it

[north rapids]

thx

[north rapids]

its not an issue related to lethal phones, more suits for whatever reason adds a million extra orange suits which breaks my saving

it'll be fixed next dawnlib update

[median kestrel]

how does every mod break dawnlib saving what the fuck are you doing xu 😭

[north rapids]

i mean adding a lib this big this late into modding will make some things break lol

especially if moresuits adds a placeholder 100 orange suits to the suits list

like

what???

[median kestrel]

yeah moresuits is jank asf from what i heard from buttery

which is why her suit isn't added thru it

[north rapids]

yeah the only reason i knew it was moresuits was because i remembered ages ago she mentioned moresuits doing this

and then i saw my log stating that after the first orangesuit it tried to register another 60

[median kestrel]

bugeyed

fucking hoorrible

[clever barn]

Why does it do that anyway

Surely there's a better way to do it

[small anvil]

i think it does this because otherwise you will run into way more indexing errors when joining a moresuits lobby with a different set of mods

like, say the host has 70 suits added and your profile only has 50

those last 20 suits are going to cause index out of range exceptions for somebody

so moresuits just adds duplicate orange suits as a failsafe until you reach 100 total suits

it "makes sense" and "is maybe a good idea in a vacuum" but in actuality it is kind of annoying and awful from a developer's standpoint lol

[craggy topaz]

New update. Just a really small one with a new config option to disable the phone personalization button on the main menu. Kind of a workaround for it breaking main menu style mods until I have time to look into those.

[sullen lodge]

how to use this like i talk with it but the user with the other phone hears nothing

[craggy topaz]

So the person you called can't hear your voice after picking up? Are there any errors in the logs?

[hoary blaze]

I played the game 4 days ago with 7 friends (285) mods and this mod worked 100% perfectly 😄

[solemn ridge]

is custom models on suits bugged?

[median kestrel]

some may prevent you from dialing manually, but there's a config you can toggle to help with that

[terse sigil]

Hello, I don't know if this was reported but using reserved slot and having an item in a slot prevent the phone to go out

[wary edge]

Does anybody else loose their phone upgrades and switchboard when leaving the game?

I have to repurchase it everytime I rejoin

[hoary blaze]

Works fine for me

Maybe another mod is conflicting

[young light]

@craggy topaz the clipboard is blurry because of this mod for whatever reason

[craggy topaz]

Huh, the base game instructions clipboard? I'll look into that.

[young light]

Yeah

Same thing happens with Company Hauler

That mod also introduces a new clipboard

[north rapids]

its one of the config options iirc, cant remember which

oh wait not this mod

[craggy topaz]

Is it the texture that's blurry? Or is it a depth of field thing?
Might explain why I didn't notice because I disable dof...

[north rapids]

i thought this was the lethal sponge thread

i think it was that?

now i dont remember anymore lol

its been so long

[north rapids]

ye its a blurry texture

[craggy topaz]

Oh wow, yeah.
Phone state machine is messy and it was running the dialing DoF removal code even when the phone isn't out.
I'll push up a fix in a minute after I test.

Just pushed 1.3.20 up to thunderstore.

### [1.3.20]

* Fixed Depth of Field not working correctly on objects that can be inspected (clipboards). This was caused by the phone DoF code for dialing running even when the phone wasn't actively out.

[quaint prawn]

am i the only one that noticed the 20~fps drop with the mod installed

absolutely love the mod btw

[hoary blaze]

Could this be related to #1241786100201160784 message ?

It also happened to me and the fix was tweaking some LethalSponge settings

[craggy topaz]

If the fix was disabling DoF, then this was the problem.

[craggy topaz]

20fps is quite a lot. What's your usual FPS and does the FPS drop happen at all times or just when phones are being used?

[quaint prawn]

without and with the mod installed

[young light]

120+ fps is unnoticeable to the human eye

[craggy topaz]

Huh, I get nearly identical frame timings with/without (first/second screenshot) lethal phones installed.
Do you have any other mods active? Maybe there's a conflict.

All of the phone calculations should be limited to when there are active calls, and if there are none it should be a very low impact mod.

[quaint prawn]

i mean i got the basic optimization mods installed

maybe some of them conflicts

[quaint prawn]

thats just not true

[exotic solstice]

An internet utterance that circulated and people just believed it. You definitely can see differences above 120fps, they just become less discernible the higher you go. At that point you're mostly after reduced input lag.

[craggy topaz]

If you could send me your mod profile I can try on my end and see if I get the same frame drops.

[quaint prawn]

heres the one i tested it on 019c59b1-ada4-a698-b4d9-c4352cc2cf82

[craggy topaz]

Huh, I'm still getting about the same framerate on that profile with the phones on or off. Doesn't seem like it's a mod conflict issue.
Not sure there's much I can do to debug it if it's different per-computer, sadly.

[arctic onyx]

Hey @craggy topaz any chance u can add compatibility with the Solar Flare weather condition?

It messes up walkies and electronics, so maybe u can make it mess up the phones as well?

[craggy topaz]

Hmm, I'm pretty sure I added a case for that a while back, as long as you're referring to Weather Registry Solar Flare.
Phones should be as messed up in solar flares as they are in blizzards and storms.

If that doesn't seem to be the case, perhaps something changed and I need to update the compat. It has been quite a while since I added it.

[clever barn]

if it was added for lethal elements beta you might have to change it to work on lethal elements theta

but idk

[native barn]

Is there anywhere i can download the ringtone files?

Or maybe extract them from the mod file

[craggy topaz]

You should be able to run the customizations assetbundle through AssetRipper to get any of the audio files

[native barn]

What is asset ripper?

Ah nvm found it

[pliant tree]

I had a very cool idea for this mod, though I'm not sure on its place yet:

Landline phones which generate randomly within the facility in some places / one in the ship (can't be used hands-free)

Obviously landlines would inherently be weaker than regular phones, but before you unlock them landlines would be cool

you could find a landline in the facility and call up the ship

Or you could have phones be per-player / items or something so those without them would have more reason to find and use landlines

One advantage of landlines would be phone range / interference, it'd have a strong signal to other phones with strong signal in most circumstances

you could dial some number to the facility and all landline phones would ring, the first person to pick up would be connected. So someone on the ship, anyone in the facility, or anyone with a phone could try to contact everyone at once.
You could also treat landlines as "listening in" on calls, so multiple people could connect to the facility line at once and talk to each other. This would get used more in 5+ player lobbies I think

The facility could either be a set number, or a random one each level. If the facility number was random, you could either find the number somewhere inside, get the number from the terminal, or have it on the switchboard. Maybe within the facility (or specifically if you use a landline phone), dialing 0000 would call the rest of the facility

I'd also have it so landlines would ring for 10-20 seconds after the original person hangs up, and if you try to pick up during this time, it calls them back, to not force waiting around as much

All in all, having phones unlocked would make the landline not very useful except in specific cases, but I think it'd be a great way to use the features of the mod in a more restricted way without the power having phones gives you, letting it be more available in early-game.

it'd also have niche uses like dialing from a landline during terrible weather, or dialing the ship landline if you forgot phone numbers, so it'd have enough variety to not be fully ignored even once you have phones unlocked

[pliant tree]

Also, you could probably make a cool hazard / monster. I know the "mimic" thing is overdone in general, but being alone, hearing a phone ringing, going to it (maybe picking it up), would be cool. Could have masked call it as well

Or something like the ghost girl calls a landline, and when you pick it up the haunting effect starts / she appears behind you (I guess this is more a suggestion for phones in general)

[craggy topaz]

To be honest, landline phones was part of the original plans.
I've been pretty busy with other projects lately, but facility phones (and monsters that use them) are definitely on the list of things I would add if I was going to do another big content update for Lethal Phones.

For now though I've been quite busy, sadly. I'll be double checking to make sure phones work in v80 at least.

[split quail]

Yea i checked - lethal phones do not work in V80 currently.

Zeekers has changed the item call function

player.FirstEmptyItemSlot(); seems to be the issue

[craggy topaz]

Ah, that makes sense with the new slot.
I'll work on getting that fixed up and a new patch out sometime today or tomorrow.

[craggy topaz]

Okay, I uploaded 1.3.21
The bigger issue atm seems to be that LethalLib isn't updated. So this will fix player.FirstEmptyItemSlot but anything related to the store isn't working right now, so unlockable phones and the switchboard aren't available until LethalLib is updated.

I think LethalLib is being updated soonish? If not I'll look into switching libraries or just not using a library.

### [1.3.21]

* Rebuilt for v80.

[north rapids]

I plan to update LL as soon as I can get the v80 patcher working, but if you do end up switching DawnLib is regularly maintained and was the first to update for v80, LLL also has a maintainer that works on it a lot too

Whatever you end up picking, a solution that uses no libraries is something I hope we can avoid 🥺

[wanton ember]

By v80 patcher do you mean project patcher or netcode patcher?

[north rapids]

Netcode patcher is fine, I mean the project patcher

[split quail]

You absolute king! Thanks so much for working that quickly

[minor hawk]

@craggy topaz Looks like Lethal Phones and Weather Registry aren't happy?

[craggy topaz]

Oh, huh. I'll have to double check the compatibility patch on that. Maybe weatherregistry changed some fields.
I'll look into that tomorrow most likely.

[craggy topaz]

Just uploaded 1.3.22
This should fix the compatibility error with WeatherRegistry, Phones just needed to be rebuilt with a reference to the newer version.

### [1.3.22]

* Rebuilt to reference the newer version of weather registry for compatibility.

[dim holly]

@craggy topaz Seems that when you set phones to be an unlock, then get ejected, they remain unlocked at the start of the new save

Or, even upon creating a new save they still remain unlocked
Need to fully reload the game to lock them again

[craggy topaz]

Damn, that bug again.
I'll have to look into what might have changed with the unlock checks.
Thanks for reporting it!

[dim holly]

Baring in mind i am using 1.3.20
So idk if its been fixed for the v80 update, though theres no mention of it in the changelog

so i'd assume its probably still the case

[craggy topaz]

I'll double check, but if it was an issue in 1.3.20 it's likely still an issue

This is just the phones? Does the switchboard properly re-lock after restarting?

[dim holly]

not tried the switchboard yet

[atomic latch]

Would it be considered to have it be so when you set the phone number length to something like 2 or 3 digits, you dont have to input the 0's beforehand?

[idle badge]

That would be nice, easier to remember that way and less of a hassle to dial in a rush, but then again, isn’t the point of this mod to have some inconvenience?

[arctic onyx]

Hery @craggy topaz will u be updating the mod for v81?

[craggy topaz]

Is the mod not working on v81 right now? I hadn't checked since v80 as I assumed v81 didn't break anything.
If it's not working I'll get a quick patch out when I get time today.

[arctic onyx]

It's causing the black screen of not spawingjng on ship

[craggy topaz]

I'll try to get a patch for v81 out today then

[arctic onyx]

Thx

Ill send a code to for the modlisy i use in case thats has anything to do with it, but it never had issues before, so idk

[hoary blaze]

Did you try only with this mod enabled?

[arctic onyx]

Wait it works now????

Nvm @craggy topaz

[craggy topaz]

Yeah I just tested and it seems fine on my end.
Do you have a log with any errors from when it happens?

[arctic onyx]

Idk, its wierd. Its workin fine now

And no i did not get the logs. It was pretty consistent, but now it seems fine

Prob was another mod that was the issue

Nvm @craggy topaz

Its messed up

When i enabled the dam mod

Not damn, i mean dam. As in the interior

Sry @craggy topaz looks like ur in call again lol

Could be the dam mod or the mod for some reason only launches some of the time. Idk, and i wish you best of luck

[craggy topaz]

so this happens when it's enabled with this mod?
https://thunderstore.io/c/lethal-company/p/TamTeam/The_Dam/

[desert oxide]

this mod is broken if it's paired with Fairer Fire Exit

[arctic onyx]

From what i can tell

Its that or its something related to the modpack or something related to v81

[craggy topaz]

I'll take a look and see if I can figure out what's causing it

[wanton ember]

I was getting the same issue with lobby breaking and there was a error with “scoops” in it so I believe it originated from this mod

[craggy topaz]

Did you also have the Dam mod? Or was your setup different?

Yeah I think it's an issue with The Dam

[Error  : Unity Log] NullReferenceException: Object reference not set to an instance of an object
Stack trace:
LethalLevelLoader.Extensions.GetSpawnSyncedObjects (DunGen.Graph.DungeonFlow _, System.Collections.Generic.IEnumerable`1[T] allTiles) (at ./General/Extensions.cs:94)
LethalLevelLoader.AssetBundleLoader.NetworkRegisterDungeonContent (LethalLevelLoader.ExtendedDungeonFlow extendedDungeonFlow, Unity.Netcode.NetworkManager networkManager) (at ./Tools/AssetBundleLoader.cs:752)
LethalLevelLoader.AssetBundleLoader+<>c__DisplayClass34_0.<NetworkRegisterCustomContent>b__0 (LethalLevelLoader.ExtendedDungeonFlow extendedDungeonFlow) (at ./Tools/AssetBundleLoader.cs:87)
System.Collections.Generic.List`1[T].RemoveAll (System.Predicate`1[T] match) (at <1071a2cb0cb3433aae80a793c277a048>:IL_001A)
LethalLevelLoader.AssetBundleLoader.NetworkRegisterCustomContent (Unity.Netcode.NetworkManager networkManager) (at ./Tools/AssetBundleLoader.cs:87)
LethalLevelLoader.Patches.GameNetworkManagerStart_Prefix (GameNetworkManager __instance) (at ./General/Patches.cs:152)
(wrapper dynamic-method) GameNetworkManager.DMD<GameNetworkManager::Start>(GameNetworkManager)
(wrapper dynamic-method) MonoMod.Utils.DynamicMethodDefinition.Trampoline<GameNetworkManager::Start>?-936547944(GameNetworkManager)
LethalLib.Modules.NetworkPrefabs.GameNetworkManager_Start (On.GameNetworkManager+orig_Start orig, GameNetworkManager self) (at ./Modules/NetworkPrefabs.cs:72)
(wrapper dynamic-method) MonoMod.Utils.DynamicMethodDefinition.Hook<GameNetworkManager::Start>?-2096308772(GameNetworkManager)

With phones disabled and Dam loaded I get this error on launch, I think it's causing problems with network prefab loading.

[arctic onyx]

Yeah, but what about all the references to the phones in my screenshot i sent

[craggy topaz]

Errors tend to cause other errors because they stop code from running that other mods might rely on. If dam is causing this nullreference at all times on load, then that's likely what's causing the phones to have an issue.

Since phones don't have any errors with other mods, and dam has this error even when alone, it seems like it's Dam causing the errors.

[arctic onyx]

so is it up to the dam mod devs to fix it or u?

[desert oxide]

recently fixed

[craggy topaz]

I'm going to assume it's up to the Dam mod devs
Even if it's not directly causing it, it'd be easier to troubleshoot compatibility if it's not throwing errors on startup.

I can look into it eventually if they don't, but it might be a moment on my end.

Let me know if anyone sees the same error happening with other mods though. That means it's a larger issue with phones-

ah, there we go

if that doesn't fix the phone error, then I'll look into it because it's a deeper compat issue

but I'm assuming that was the issue for now

[manic pilot]

@craggy topaz (sorry for the ping) It seems like the phones have the same problem that scrap built pre-v80 is having, that it retains the motion blur instead of ignoring it while on your hand, afaik you would need to rebuild the prop on a v80 project but I don't really know the specifics since the phones seem a bit more complex in that regard

I have this video that shows the difference between an item built in v80 and pre-v80

https://medal.tv/es/games/lethal-company/clips/mu8ITDqu9N6ioQRhE?invite=cr-MSxpNzcsNDcyNTUyNTk2&v=60

(I didn't get me grabbing the other scrap on the clip, but it does not "ghost" with the motion blur)

[craggy topaz]

Yeah the motion blur was driving me crazy when I was testing.
I assume it's because they don't have motion vectors set up, I'll have to see if I can get them enabled on the phones.

[north rapids]

The shader on the materials is missing the motion vector keywords I thiiink that's how you'd solve it if you wanna do it at runtime

I just made a v81 project and rebuild my stuff there though

[craggy topaz]

Yeah, I'll take a look at getting the phone project moved over to v81. Swapping the materials out shouldn't be too bad, none of the phone assets are doing anything interesting material-wise

[craggy topaz]

Almost have the Phone assets rebuilt for v81, just running into some issues where the UI scaling for the phone menu is different on the v81 assetbundle.

Huh, it was an animation problem. Guess the v81 Button (2) animator is slightly different than the old one I had.

Just uploaded v1.3.23
Let me know if anyone notices any of the assets acting oddly. I had to manually re-attach a few scripts with the migration so I might have overlooked something.

### [1.3.23]

* Repackaged Assetbundles to add v80 motion vector support. Now moving while holding a phone should not be sickening.

[minor hawk]

Hope this also fixes motion blur affecting the switchboard lol

It would just get engulfed in it while the ship was landing

[craggy topaz]

Should fix anything that was a part of the base phones bundle, so switchboard too
If it didn't, let me know and I'll get it fixed 👍

[minor hawk]

That did fix it

@fading dove Is it possible that all BiggerShip needs as well is to be rebuilt on v81?

[craggy topaz]

Does biggership get motion blurred on takeoff/landing?
Anything that had a custom material from before v80 is likely going to need to be rebuilt with motion vector support. You can probably enable that in a pre-v80 project, as it should just be a project level toggle whether or not the keywords get included.

[minor hawk]

It does yeah

Got you

[minor hawk]

You should inform Mel of this for her pocket rooms if you can, cus her pocket room doors get Motion Blurred really badly lol

[fading dove]

it is possible

i've been trying to do that yesterday but instead i fucked my project completely lmao

so i'll be restoring it later this week

[minor hawk]

Hope you have a backup too incase

[fading dove]

i do

[minor hawk]

Good good

[fading dove]

but the patching itself took almost 2 hours

and i don't want to do it again lol

[clever barn]

primarily a TME bug but your mod was mentioned in the logs too

[craggy topaz]

It looks like something messed with a player's connection to the interact keybind?
Considering TME is one of the first errors there it's likely it caused the others, but if that gets fixed and the phones still throw an error I'll look into it.

[clever barn]

Yeah i figured it was a cascading error

It didnt happen again with TME off

Which is weird because TME didnt have a problem until I removed useful zap gun

[minor hawk]

Looks like Phones throws some RPC errors for clients

[craggy topaz]

Is that happening every time a client uses a phone? Can I have the modlist/full log so I can try to repro it?

[minor hawk]

It was our pack from yesterday I'll grab that one

019d9c99-0c43-12b1-c51c-74cce961c322

[manic pilot]

I did have a lot of red going on when someone grabbed the phone clipboard

Sadly I don't have a log from that rn but since I have to do more tests I'll try to repro

[idle gyro]

hi I was wondering if you could add an option to change the color of the green circle that's used when you enable Hide Hands as my friend is colorblind to green

[carmine bluff]

I have this error when mod lethalphones is active
[15:06:24.8178797] [Error : Unity Log] Can't remove Canvas because CanvasScaler (Script) depends on it

[manic pilot]

hey scoops, would it be difficult to support .ogg sounds for the ringtones?

mainly for performance and filesize