Lethal Phones

[civic heron]

👍
yeah new skins for the phone and ringtones and charms

[amber badger]

on the main menu ye

[upbeat parrot]

That's cool

[simple walrus]

Is the switchboard still planned by any chance? I have someone I would love to torture by making them work a call center

[craggy topaz]

Switchboard is still something I'd love to add, yeah. Models and textures are done for it, there's just a lot of logistics for how it should work. Not going to say it's definitely happening still, but I'm gonna try.

Just pushed up a new update to Thunderstore, 1.1.6.
A few new config options, and finally Mirage and Masked Support!

[upbeat parrot]

probably best to keep the switchboard as a config (if it happens)

[scarlet leaf]

YESS!!

[scarlet leaf]

That would be so damn cool, would add a lot of dynamic gameplay for the ship mom

[scarlet leaf]

Do you know if it is compatible with lethal intelligence? Ik it adds walkie talkie support for mirage, will that cause any issues?

[craggy topaz]

I haven't tested it with lethal intelligence yet, but it will probably allow masked to use both a phone and walkie at the same time which might look/act strange.
I'll have to specifically test it soon and maybe add some more compatibility patches.

[upbeat parrot]

hey scoops i got a lil suggestion for the mod it's nothing much really just adds a descrpiton to the personal phone in the shop

[craggy topaz]

Ah, yeah I should add actual shop node information for the unlock. I'll add that to the next update.

[upbeat parrot]

thats cool

[civic heron]

https://tenor.com/view/yes-m-bison-street-fighter-gif-15277317

[upbeat parrot]

another idea is something that comes WITH the personal phones: The Atenna, The Attenna Connects All The Phones In Order To Contact Each Other But Stuff Like Lighting Or Forest Keepers Could Break It Causing it to not be able to call eachother or aleast make it even harder to hear

[sharp harbor]

how do i get the phone

[upbeat parrot]

do you have shop config on?

[sharp harbor]

nvm i figured out

thx

i activated the buy in store option but the phone keep showing and i didnt buy it

[craggy topaz]

You enabled the phonePurchase config but you can take out your phone without buying Personal Phones from the store? Did you enable the config and then load up a save file from before you enabled it?

[sharp harbor]

nope i enabled it and loaded the same game

[craggy topaz]

If you loaded the same game that is likely the issue.
The phonePurchase config needs a new game to work.

[civic heron]

I think I may have a bug where I'm able to hear the masks from anywhere whenever they bring out the phone

||Its like they speak like they are far away or like a phantom but I can hear them if they are speaking on a phone to eachother||

[craggy topaz]

Thanks for reporting! I'll look into it.
Were you playing multiplayer/were you the host if so?

[civic heron]

I was by myself and I was the host

If you want a clip of what it sounds like in-game I can get one

[craggy topaz]

That would be awesome actually.

[civic heron]

let it be known I spawned the mask in with lethaldebug

https://medal.tv/games/lethal-company/clips/jyCKe0fRIgMLyp5rS?invite=cr-MSxxSEUsMTkxNzQ4NTczLA

I'm gonna try without manually spawning the masked ones

[craggy topaz]

Wonder if it's something that can be fixed by just not allowing them to call each other...

[civic heron]

well I guess it just fixed itself

maybe it was cause I did manually spawn them or I got puked on by them but since I had god mode I was fine

I'll just test it out with my friends tonight and see if it works or not. thats the final test.

[scarlet leaf]

finally got my addon working and posted, thanks tons for the help

[craggy topaz]

That's great to hear!

[craggy topaz]

I'll have to keep an eye out for it as well, thanks for reporting it.
I have a feeling there's gonna be a bit of bug hunting with this Mirage support.

[novel wedge]

what’s the switchboard

[upbeat parrot]

a switchboard was the old telephone system with you needing to go to a phone dispatcher (i think thats what it's called) with them having to connect you to the person your trying to call

[craggy topaz]

We originally planned on adding one as a Ship Upgrade back when Lethal Phones first released.
Something for someone who sits at the terminal to help manage the teams calls and numbers.

[scarlet leaf]

i think thats a more unique purchase compared to only buying the phones

[novel wedge]

yeah that’s fire

so would it make calling easier with someone on ship or would it make it so calls can only be made with someone on switchboard duty?

[inland hatch]

the former; the switchboard wouldn't take away from any phone functionality, just add some additional tools for someone who is on the ship

[crisp frost]

this mod is fun im going to use it in my infected company modpack

[craggy topaz]

1.1.7 going up to thunderstore now. I reworked a bunch of the default audio volumes and added a ringtone volume config, so hopefully some stuff should be easier on the ears. I'd recommend looking over your configs to see the new default values.
Phonebook clipboards are now also shop items you can buy extra of, also configurable.
Also, finally got around to adding a small touch I've been meaning to add forever; actually flipping the phone open!

[upbeat parrot]

i played the update real quick to see the phone flip because ya know (phone flip is awesome) but it doesn't seem to play

[craggy topaz]

Hmm, I just tried it on my modlist and it played the animation. Did your manager pull the 1.1.7 update? Gale downloaded it for me, but my R2Modman still hasn't gotten it.

[prisma umbra]

how do i answer and use the phone? which keybind

[craggy topaz]

Default Answer/Call is Left Mouse Button, but you can change it in your options.

~ for taking it out by default, that can be changed too

[upbeat parrot]

i'm using thunderstore (also i did update it)

[prisma umbra]

yh mb didnt check settings

[upbeat parrot]

and i also deleted my save

[craggy topaz]

Okay, if it's still not playing the animation, can you dm me your modlist code so I can test it?

[upbeat parrot]

sure

so how is everyone?

[prisma umbra]

im good just trynna see why do i get low fps

[upbeat parrot]

this mod is very underatted

barely anyone knows this mod (as far as i know)

[inland hatch]

all that means is that we get to keep seeing people try it for the first time and be delighted ^.^ love seeing y'all enjoy it!

[ancient osprey]

Hello, could you perhaps make it so that [ Personalised Phone ] and the menu inside uses Emblem's (Sub)Menu colors?

because right now the buttons look like this when I hover them https://puu.sh/Kn5bK/8667a00aec.png

[worthy locust]

question for this. is it feasible or even possible to have the amount of 0s put in front of the number automatically depending on what your config is? like if you have 10 for the digit so the phone already has 000_ in it and you would only need to input the last number. if you have 100 then 00__ etc.

just an idea I had. love all the new features that have been added to this mod!

[ancient osprey]

to add onto this, I think something like the phone/charm previews being taken over by manual rotation when clicking on them would be nice

[silent dagger]

@craggy topaz Hi, if there is any possibility to change the key to take the phone from pocket? I.e. instead of ~ put your letter, but by default, without going into the settings, but in the configs? This would be very useful for modpacks. And also, are there no plans to make for the phone something like contacts or address book?

[dense needle]

I think it could be interesting if there was an option for the phonebook to not spawn in the ship and only be bought

[silent dagger]

This can be done in the configs of the mod. I mean that it will be possible to add to the contacts directly in the phone, for example, after you once called a friend, his number is saved in your contacts

[dense needle]

I was more so meaning that you had to remember phone numbers unless you bought the phonebook because what you seem to be saying would make it so there would be no need for a phonebook at all

maybe I misunderstood

[craggy topaz]

The first phonebook always spawns on the ship at the moment, I can add a config to disable that so you can only buy them.
As for the default keybinding, I've been looking into it and I don't see any feasible way to do that with InputUtils sadly. Do you know of any other mods that have that kind of feature? If there are any I can look into how they do it.

[dense needle]

yeah thats what I mean

thanks

[craggy topaz]

Beyond the (hopeful) addition of the switchboard for the ship, the phones themselves have no plans at the moment of having their own contacts or speed dialing.

[craggy topaz]

I'll look into adding some color matching to the ui today, so that it matches your menu colors.
I agree manual rotation for the previews sounds pretty cool too, that one might take a bit longer to look into though.

[silent dagger]

No, there's no such thing. Then why did you choose ~ as your primary key? It's just that a large number of people don't have that key on their keyboard because of the small form factor

[craggy topaz]

It would be more work than I'd want to put in for that specific config option, and I think that the 0s work somewhat as a balancing option for it. Less memory required, slightly more dial time.

[silent dagger]

I think it would be much more logical and practical to use the T or U key.

[craggy topaz]

I picked ~ because it's close-ish to wasd and one of the few keys not used by default lethal company in that region on a querty keyboard.
Then again, my intent was generally for people to change it to their personal choice. I don't use ~ myself.
T is already used by vanilla lethal as the push to talk key. U feels a bit far away, but switching the default to that is a possibility.

[edgy nexus]

i got this idea first

[dense needle]

ok

[edgy nexus]

it's over in lethal intelligence

i went in-depth about how it'd work

[craggy topaz]

Y seems to be the next closest key not used by vanilla lethal.
Perhaps that would be a good option to change the default to.

[silent dagger]

Isn't Q busy in vanilla?

[craggy topaz]

Q is ItemSecondaryUse in vanilla, so it's the SecondaryUse key for the phones since they're pseudo-items, if that's what you're asking

[silent dagger]

Then Y or U is really a very worthy alternative for ~, trivially because every keyboard has them😃

[craggy topaz]

I think I agree. I'll change the default bind to Y next update.

[ancient osprey]

woah thanks for your responses no rush though, I imagine UI has less priority over gameplay

[violet delta]

this is sick

[craggy topaz]

So, 1.1.8 is being uploaded to thunderstore right now with good news/bad news on the ui colors front.
I integrated the Personalize Phone button a lot better into the main menu, and fixed the hover text being basically unreadable.
However, now the menu button has a compatibility error with Emblem that needs to be fixed on their end.

I'll have to reach out to the Emblem devs after the patch is fully up to request full compatibility, but there is a workaround until then. The menu button will color correctly if you also are also running LethalConfig, as Emblem already has a compatibility check for LethalConfig that ends up fixing the phone button too.

[craggy topaz]

1.1.8 also has the default keybind change to Y

along with another clipboard config option, some masked phones audio/visual fixes, and the addition of the phone flipping open/closed animation for other players

[dire karma]

me and a hefty amount of people are having problems making the phones work

according to the host ever since the latest version of the mod was downloaded it stopped working

[craggy topaz]

Any error messages? In what way are they not working?

[ancient osprey]

If you restart the game and go back into a save, it seems that the phone clipboard just gets respawned even if it's there

https://puu.sh/Kn9Rx/f122eeccc4.png

[craggy topaz]

I've got a fix for that ready to go out in the next patch, should be later today. Thanks for reporting!

[outer horizon]

Hey, would you potentially be able to make the main menu button for phone customisation not be present if no phone cosmetics are loaded? Either that or a config option to disable it.
Would be pretty awesome but if not then no worries.
Really love the update, especially how we can set the phones to be an unlockable :3

[craggy topaz]

I think I already have something set up for that, it must have gotten messed up with some of the previous patches.
I'll get that fixed for next patch so if you only have the Defaults loaded it won't show the menu.

[outer horizon]

Just checked the latest patch out, gruah it works! Thnk youuu

[inland hatch]

Howdy! Anyone who is looking for resources to make skins/textures for LethalPhones, I've thrown together a .zip package of resources to (hopefully!) make your lives easier. This includes a **style guide, color map, separated detail layers, UV layout overlay, and a 3D color map reference, **as well as an optional .csp file with layers and masks already set up if that's your program of choice. This should help those without heavy-duty and/or expensive 3D tools make their own textures for skins.

Link to where you can download the new texturing resource package, called "LethalPhonesTexturingResources.zip": https://github.com/CassCoffey/LethalPhones/releases/tag/v1.0.0

The Style Guide, Color Map, and 3D Color Map Reference as an example of what's in the file.

Hope it ends up being of use!

Oh, and always remember: If you notice overlapping UVs, no you didn't.

Nobody likes a narc.

😇

[silent dagger]

@craggy topaz Hi, what do you think about adding a video call option like in this game? Obviously I'm suggesting this more as a joke, but I wonder what you think about it?

[craggy topaz]

As funny as it would be, the answer is almost certainly no to full on video calls just because of the logistics and performance behind it.

I won't lie though, there's a reason the phones have a camera on their model. Super-longterm stretch goal for them was to have the ability to take pictures and selfies.
But any sort of additional functionality like that wouldn't be added for a bit. The next major feature I have planned is a Switchboard for the ship.

[upbeat parrot]

For some reason the personal phones upgrade get confused with the phonebook clipboard making it impossible to buy the phones in the store

But yeah one of things I love about this mod is that we all know the company would 100% do this and give the jankiest of phones ever

[craggy topaz]

it should work if you type the full name or "personal" instead. I'll see if I can switch the clipboard's name around so that 'phone' will always refer to the personal phones upgrade.

[gentle sage]

ohhh my god id love having a picture functionality

i was thinking itd be really cool if we could pay to upgrade the phones to have more features, like a contacts list and camera

[upbeat parrot]

Yeah it be great features it probably cost alot but be worth it

[gentle sage]

contacts list would be great to get my friends to use the phones, lol

with a few exceptions of when my friends are in the ship, its always me calling everyone cus i write the numbers in notepad

[upbeat parrot]

And it be more convenient

[gentle sage]

aye

i do adore the rotary system tho

[novel wedge]

rip tilda 2023-2024 😔✌️

[clever barn]

I assume it would be way more resource intensive than is worth it, but it might still be worth taking it into consideration given that the Black Mesa interior was able to have custom walkies with camera that broadcast back to a room inside? you could maybe talk with zaggy about this kind of thing for a better estimate of how intense it would be on resources

[gentle sage]

openbodycams can probably be used

[jovial horizon]

Maybe a good idea would be

Allowing people to stream video calls to the ship

Since you could use bodycams as a dependency or smth

And that would just be changing the camera position on the bodycam plus the resolution of the screen, there would also have to be stuff like allowing sound through the monitor, and maybe a camera flip setting to flip between selfie mode and photo mode

Maybe even adding a screen to the phone itself so people can see whoever’s in the ship

[jovial horizon]

Think open body cams is the best one for good performance

[inland hatch]

Psst, @silver beacon
been absolutely loving your customization pack for this mod, you've got some excellent stuff in there and all the skins are fantastic (the patapon one in particular speaks to my heart, pata pata pata pon)
our dev chat is always delighted whenever we see your pack update haha
anyways, couldn't resist throwing together a quick charm for the next lethalphones update (whenever that happens) that i think will go nice with one of your skins ;p

[silver beacon]

YOOOOOOOO WHATTT

I DIDNT THINK OTHER PEOPLE WERE SEEING IT HERE THATS AWESOME!!!!

AND THAT CHARM IS SOOOO GOOD OMGGGG

[inland hatch]

every single time you've updated we've cracked it open and been posting pictures of all the different stuff haha

[silver beacon]

OMGG THATS SO SWEET!!!

that fills my heart with so much joy

[inland hatch]

echoing our own sentiments -- you've been doing what we hoped people would do with the customizations and more! it's really nice to see, i'm super glad you've been enjoying it ^.^

[silver beacon]

im glad you enjoy it! ive had quite a lot of fun doing them too, it came out at just the right time for me as ive always wanted to do some sort of customizable lethal mod like this (i found this mod the day after i tried using a custom cruiser texture mod but it didnt work, so this was a great way to bounce off that lol)

[inland hatch]

it's really fun to just throw stuff at right??
that's basically my feeling as well, scoops does all the dev work so i can soley act as the artist and can hurl whatever random concept crosses my mind into blender/substance and then send it over to her

its a treat

[silver beacon]

FR!! its a lot of fun once i got the hang of it lol, especially that new template for skins im really grateful for that! i thought i wasnt gonna be able to figure it out until i saw that

[inland hatch]

wooo, i was hoping it would be of use
tried to make it as useful as possible as textures are definitely trickier in many ways

[silver beacon]

yeah its so useful!

thank you to everyone on lethal phones for the mod my group loves it a lot, i make my addon mostly for them as well. very fun mod!!

[inland hatch]

i'll pass on the sentiment to the other two as well (if they haven't been reading the thread already) ^.^

[violet oar]

Suggestion (srry tried modding it myself its too difficult for my pea brain): Jurrasic Park 3 Satellite Phone I always use the mozart one as a substitute but would love to use the real deal

Here's an mp3 for it as well

[jovial horizon]

That would be amazing

WAIT

IDEA

ON TOP OF THIS IDEA

BRAIN WAVE

make it

So

Where you’re calling a dead player right

The ringtone plays on their corpse

And by extension depending on what creature killed them

The ring tone is muffled and coming from the creature

So like

Killed by a thumper?

It swallows your phone

And you get a JP3 spinosaurus moment

Obviously the thumper wouldn’t pick up the phone from inside its stomach, plus I’d say just having the ringtone emanate from it is enough

[jovial horizon]

I feel like this would work the best wirh an eyeless dog or forest giant honestly

Maybe the sound coming from the eyeless dog would make other dogs attack it

[violet oar]

hydrogere would muffle it

Brakken mimics the last player it kill's ringtone

[jovial horizon]

It would lowkey be so scary calling your mate and you just hear the ringtone from a forest giant

[violet oar]

around corners

[jovial horizon]

Wdym

[jovial horizon]

I feel like the phone would stay on the players corpse with hydro

[violet oar]

like you would just hear the ringtone eminating from it in the distance, youd run over thinking its your friend then BOOM brakken jumpscare

[jovial horizon]

Since you can see through the hydro it wouldn’t make much sense to have the sound come from it

Without seeing a phone

[violet oar]

i mean i dont see why it couldnt float around there

[jovial horizon]

Personally I feel like brackens should be the one enemy it does touch cause

[violet oar]

they give em to the mimics and bugs

[jovial horizon]

Y’know

They don’t really eat meat

As far as I’m aware

[violet oar]

whar

[jovial horizon]

I’m thinking of like a whole different mechanic

[jovial horizon]

Bracken has no mouth

To eat a phone

[violet oar]

crickets make music with the spikes on their legs

brakken got the leaves

rub em together to make music

[jovial horizon]

Ohhhh

Well actually

Not a bad idea

[violet oar]

would only happen after he kills the player too

[jovial horizon]

I get what you mean now

[violet oar]

like theyd stay near it

yee

near the body*

[jovial horizon]

Ahhhhhh I got you

[violet oar]

yee yee

[jovial horizon]

That’s a cool idea

Maybe it’s like

A slightly pitched up or down version

Or distorted

Or in the same way

That the man eater mimics it’s baby versions cry’s

You can hear the bracken rumble noise barely behind the phone call noise

[violet oar]

yee i was thinkin like that too

[jovial horizon]

Yeah but I doubt the creator would wanna put that much effort into

[violet oar]

like the leaves rustling when its startled

[jovial horizon]

Just a hydrogere

[violet oar]

they did it for just the mimics which suprised me

it would just be a prop floating in the center

[jovial horizon]

Since idk how possible it is for them to just drag and drop the phone model in the enemy

Would be pointless to I feel

[jovial horizon]

Yeah but that’s legit copy and pasted

[violet oar]

could be cool if it was like rusty like its beeing enzymed

[jovial horizon]

Player

Essentially

[jovial horizon]

Definitely works best with this kind of thing tho

[violet oar]

i mean if you know unity they use similar bones, adding something like that would basically just place it at the very center of the hydrogere

[jovial horizon]

Oh fairs

No I don’t know Unity

Hate the program

Bleh

[jovial horizon]

Like

[violet oar]

agreed lol but more or less just models in general its the same idea with source (much easier imo)

[jovial horizon]

It makes eyeless dogs attack whichever other dog has a ringtone that it’s eaten

[violet oar]

aye yea then theyd all be together too

[jovial horizon]

And just makes the most sense with forest keeper as a whole

Since

It eats the whole body

[violet oar]

yee yee

[jovial horizon]

Mhmmhm

Could be a very fun idea

[violet oar]

aye lol

[inland hatch]

Haha, that is a cute idea
I don't think it would work well due to technical stuff and how numbers are hooked up to things but the vision is cool

though I'd hate to lose the ability to use corpses (or soon-to-be-corpses) as on-demand dog bait

imagining hearing a phone ring from a creature's belly is certainly great as an image that's for sure

I do like the idea of something using a ringtone as a lure, though. Pinning that to the back of my mind on the creature idea list.

Lots to do still before that list gets cracked open, though. So don't get your hopes up xD

[onyx moat]

Sorry to bother you, but phones don't ring for other players, they only ring for the host, other players don't hear the ringtone.

[craggy topaz]

Any error messages/do you have the logs for host or players?

[onyx moat]

didnt saw it sorry

next time we play i'll check

[violet oar]

still think you could add the jurrasic park 3 ringtone tho?

[violet oar]

this sample is prolly the best one for the mod

[upper scarab]

i don't know if anyone else has come up with this idea or not, but what if there was a config setting that charged company credits per minute of phone usage? just a novel idea i had

[wanton ember]

@craggy topaz can you make a config to have the phone as a shop item that must be purchased?

[inland hatch]

already a config re:purchasable phones

[onyx moat]

@craggy topaz only that

[craggy topaz]

Hmm, no errors. Was it just the ringtones not working?

[onyx moat]

yes they dont listen the ringtone

only me, the host listen that

this is my error

meanwhile the one of the users that play is that:

so an error is here @craggy topaz

[craggy topaz]

Ah, that's perfect, thank you

[onyx moat]

if u can tell me how to fix it ^^ i need to change some config?

[craggy topaz]

No it's a fix on my end, but the error tells me where.
Looks like you might have different customizations loaded than the other users and that could be causing something? I'll get it fixed for next update.

Speaking of updates, I just uploaded 1.2.0 to Thunderstore, The Switchboard Update!

[inland hatch]

Switchboard real!!

[wanton ember]

what is this

[full cliff]

Is that how it should be?

[craggy topaz]

Yup, if you're alone then the only name on there will be yours.

[inland hatch]

Multiplayer the list makes more sense as it is all of the names of active players and you can scroll through them. The list repeats when you reach the end, so it looks like that with just one entry!

[craggy topaz]

Although the double-call looks like an issue, I'll work on a fix for that

[craggy topaz]

ship upgrade for managing calls to/from the ship. Makes it way easier for someone on the ship to coordinate with the rest of the team using phones

[violet oar]

not showing up on gale for some reason

[craggy topaz]

Thunderstore can take up to 2 hours to actually distribute updates sometimes, my Gale doesn't have it yet either

Putting up 1.2.1 now with a fix for being able to call multiple times at once from switchboard and also hopefully a fix for that ringtone issue.

[wanton ember]

@craggy topaz How do I make the phones as items per person instead of unlockable

[craggy topaz]

There's no way to make the phones unlockable per person, they're a ship-wide upgrade if you set the config.

[wanton ember]

can you add that option then

[craggy topaz]

No, the phones will always be a ship-wide option. It would require a total rework to have them per-player.

[wintry magnet]

Looks like late join players don't get a phone

[craggy topaz]

Works fine on my end, what's your mod list? I'll take a look and see what's causing the issue.

[wintry magnet]

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Also the new update changed the item name from Phonebook Clipboard to Clipboard Phonebook

[craggy topaz]

Yeah, I moved it so that I can hopefully make "phone" in the terminal always refer to the 'Personal Phones' shop item and not the clipboard or the switchboard

[craggy topaz]

I tried this modpack and was able to late join and use phones. Can you get me a log file if you have it/get me one if it happens again?

[wintry magnet]

Yeah it worked now.

Sorry we are streaming with it right now lol

I stopped and updated for the switch board xD

[dawn seal]

I am getting a weird performance drop using any version of Lethal Phones following 1.1.4 where the game would stutter for 1/10 of a second every 0.75 seconds or so. I use a lot of mods, but the stutter goes away whenever I downgrade. Was there something in the new updates that would cause this stutter?

[craggy topaz]

hmm, specifically going from 1.1.4 to 1.1.5+?
Nothing in there should have been able to cause stuttering, do any errors come up/do you have logs?

[dawn seal]

I mean 1.1.5+, no weird errors, I can send logs

[craggy topaz]

thanks, can you send me a modlist too? I'll see if I can find anything that could be causing it.

[craggy topaz]

would you be able to get those in a profile code or .r2z format? So I can import them in Gale/R2Modman and test easy

[dawn seal]

Sure thing

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[civic heron]

Will there ever be able to have multiple ringtones? They're all so good but I can only pick one 😭 (Maybe some sorta random chance thing for certain ones you pick for yourself or somethin???)

[dark rune]

I seem to have encountered a similar problem.

[dark rune]

When I stored the Switchboard in the Storage, I couldn't take it out again. When I entered the name, the terminal reminded me that "the data was corrupted".

[dark rune]

By the way, I added terminal conflict fix.

[craggy topaz]

Hmm, I was able to store/retrieve it fine with terminal conflict fix.
When did you store it, was it after a while or immediately after buying it? Also were you the host of the server or a client?

[dark rune]

I tested it. I added the mod that unlocked the furniture by default. When I put it away, I found that I couldn't retrieve it. When I tried to buy it, I couldn't retrieve the switchboard by typing the corresponding word.I'll try to find out if it's caused by other MODS.

I see, I used the Chinese translation mod, which caused me to be unable to search the switchboard correctly and buy it.

[craggy topaz]

Just uploaded patch 1.2.3 to thunderstore with a performance improvement. Hopefully this will help with the two reports above.
If not, I have more performance improvements planned soon, they'll just take a bit longer. Planning on doing a pretty major rewrite of the underlying code to clean everything up and get it running better.

[onyx moat]

so its the "only server listen ringtone" fixed?

[craggy topaz]

I think I should have gotten it. Let me know if it happens again.

[onyx moat]

so i can update to the new version?

[onyx moat]

soorry man

on ur new item the switch board i see only ur nickname

we are 6 in the server

[craggy topaz]

Can you send me your logs?

[dawn seal]

Looks like the lag is gone for me! Thank you for the fix, I really like how interactive this mod is and how well it fits the vibe of the game. The performance patch makes the new stuff accessible for large modpacks

[violet oar]

@craggy topaz could you add the Jurassic Park 3 satellite phone as one of the ringtones? I feel it fits really well in the mod

[violet oar]

This one

[craggy topaz]

Sorry, we're not doing requests for more customizations for the base mod (and we're likely not adding any more ringtones at all).
You can follow the wiki to make your own addon for it though! Ringtones are the easiest ones to add.

[violet oar]

Tried to, it didn't work, also not very good with unity

[dark rune]

My friend wants this screen to add everyone's phone number next to their names for easy viewing.

[craggy topaz]

It should have everyone's number on that side. It might be breaking in other languages, I'll look into fixing that

[dark rune]

I tried this Chinese translation.

I may be caused by the translation mod replacing the font material.

This is after using the translation mod to replace the font material.

Even if I don't modify the text content, I can't display the number just by changing the material, but otherwise everything is normal.

I can still display the number after changing the font. To be precise, it's not the language, but the font material.

[craggy topaz]

Thank you for all the info! I'll get a fix for that out with the next patch.

[reef zephyr]

Was the issue a while back with the phones messing with the enemy AI ever fixed

I think it was TheGiantSpecimens specifically

[craggy topaz]

That issue was a bug that needs to be fixed on GiantSpecimens' side. The driftwood giant's line of sight code doesn't use QueryTriggerInteraction.Ignore so it gets blocked by things it shouldn't.

[reef zephyr]

Unfortunately I don’t think that mod gets updates anymore because the mod author moved to a new all-encompassing mod. The issue is he hasnt ported the driftwood giant to the new mod yet, ugh

[median kestrel]

she*

and yeah xu's moved on

[craggy topaz]

I think the phones should no longer conflict with it anyway due to some of the backend changes I've been making.

[reef zephyr]

I’ll give it a test in a day or two, been meaning to get this mod back in our modlist

[upbeat parrot]

Config idea:Have the phones have battery before they have to be recharged

[warped zenith]

Forgive me if this has already been asked, but is there any plans/ideas/thoughts to allow permanent numbers for specific players in the config? Having to remember different numbers for each session adds to the balance/difficulty I suppose, but it would be so cool for everyone in a friend group to choose their own number and people being rewarded for remembering them.

[craggy topaz]

No plans right now for any permanent numbers other than the Switchboard.

[dark rune]

I wonder if it is possible to keep a fixed number in a specific room, just like suitsaver or other upgrade projects, to save specific room information, so as to keep a unique number for each player and prevent changes.

Sometimes my friends and I will play the same archive for several days in a row, but we often restart the room because of some small bugs, so that we never remember each other's numbers.

[warped zenith]

Ah no worries, mod is basically perfect and awesome regardless. Just sayin it would be cool if you ever wanted to add it for certain playstyles and Alanbacker makes a good point too.

Only other thing I'd want is for the switchboard to be able to have 3 numbers so it can be "911" instead of "9111" lol

[storm bane]

NullReferenceException: Object reference not set to an instance of an object
Stack trace:
Scoops.misc.PlayerPhone.UpdatePhoneSanity (GameNetcodeStuff.PlayerControllerB playerController) (at <a7283ee51320456c97c0011a0ce5d398>:IL_001D)
(wrapper dynamic-method) GameNetcodeStuff.PlayerControllerB.DMD<GameNetcodeStuff.PlayerControllerB::SetPlayerSanityLevel>(GameNetcodeStuff.PlayerControllerB)
(wrapper dynamic-method) GameNetcodeStuff.PlayerControllerB.DMD<GameNetcodeStuff.PlayerControllerB::Update>(GameNetcodeStuff.PlayerControllerB)

NullReferenceException: Object reference not set to an instance of an object
Stack trace:
Scoops.misc.PlayerPhone.UpdatePhoneSanity (GameNetcodeStuff.PlayerControllerB playerController) (at <a7283ee51320456c97c0011a0ce5d398>:IL_001D)
(wrapper dynamic-method) GameNetcodeStuff.PlayerControllerB.DMD<GameNetcodeStuff.PlayerControllerB::SetPlayerSanityLevel>(GameNetcodeStuff.PlayerControllerB)
(wrapper dynamic-method) GameNetcodeStuff.PlayerControllerB.DMD<GameNetcodeStuff.PlayerControllerB::Update>(GameNetcodeStuff.PlayerControllerB)

https://www.dropbox.com/scl/fi/lq6k506n6u55o0v5wkqpu/LogOutput.sqlite?rlkey=0cs59b17t6lb45bba4akeptpc&st=tarn6ujp&dl=0

0194d033-caed-39e2-4734-ee178ed527eb

[solid elk]

Is there a reason why when I put this value into the "Customization blacklist" config, it removes all ringtones except blackparadecarryon:
lethalphones.cuomistzations.drowning,lethalphones.customizations.pacman_dubstep,lethalphones.customizations.reactor,lethalphones.customizations.ribs,lethalphones.customizations.whatsnewpussycat,lethalphones.customizations.wonderwall,lethalphones.customizations.caramelldansen,lethalphones.customizations.babyhotline,lethalphones.customizations.darude,lethalphones.customizations.blackparadecarryon

[inland hatch]

That's because that last one is actually not a part of our default ringtones, but from an add-on pack -- presumably 'MayaLethalPhoneStuff'. In order to blacklist parts of an addon, you just have to change the blackparade entry to reference the addon instead of lethalphones.customizations. For that example, it'd be 'mayalethalphones.blackparadecarryon'

to figure out how to reference that stuff, peek at the console on startup. it'll look something like this if something is loaded/blacklisted

[Info   :LethalPhones] Skipped ringtone customization: mayalethalphones.blackparadecarryon, reason: blacklisted
[Info   :LethalPhones] Loaded ringtone customization: mayalethalphones.bombstrappedtomychest
[Info   :LethalPhones] Loaded ringtone customization: mayalethalphones.calamariinkantation

[solid elk]

Thanks so much for clearing that up and showing me how to configure addons too but I'm so damn sure I disable all of the addons before even trying to turn of the vanilla ones I didn't want.
But hey If this works I couldn't care less,

[violet delta]

the number changing thing in the balance section of the configuration, what if instead of doing all zeros it did all 1s? like 1110,1112-1119

or is it just hard coded

which is fine

it's just that when I get a dissonance lag spike and I'm in the middle of dialing 0, the dial stopper doesn't work and it keeps spinning the dial in circles until I have to manually hold it in place to make it stop

[dark rune]

This is indeed a demanding suggestion. I think it will be more convenient for players to decide the number interval by themselves. After all, 0 is too far from the dial pointer, and it will be much more convenient if they can start from 111X.

[serene meadow]

when using the phone sometimes someone on one sides voice would get quieter and quieter for everyone until no one could hear them

next time it happens i will get a log

[onyx moat]

sorry i dont know why but i've added lategame upgrades and the menu of the phone disappear

and now cant customize

[craggy topaz]

can I have a code for your modlist so I can figure out why the menu disappeared?

[onyx moat]

it was a ringtone mod that. was bugged

[violet delta]

and you don't even mention which mod?

[craggy topaz]

Just uploaded 1.3.0 to thunderstore. This one's a big behind the scenes update, almost all of the phone backend code has been rewritten to perform better.
This also includes a pretty large rework to call quality, which will likely be the most noticeable change. Static should be a bit more disruptive at its worst, but now The Switchboard and Radar Boosters will increase call quality in a large radius around them.
Tons of config additions/changes too. I'd recommend looking it over if you didn't use a default audio balance.

[full cliff]

How about being able to block person's phone connection using switchboard?

[inland hatch]

dunno about squeezing that functionality into the system (as we've tried to keep it as simple to use as possible) but both scoops and i said out loud at the same time that we like the way you think, that DOES sound fun

it would be useful to block calls from bugs and such after all. in addition to just being funny to block people

[scarlet leaf]

I’ve never used unity or any game engine and was able to do it, just follow everything extremely carefully

[solid elk]

For me it was a test of patience and nerves but after reinstalling git, restarting my project, restarting my pc and only until making a new project did the assetbundle browser apear.

[rare anvil]

Just wanted to drop by to congratulate you on the mod and its update, stellar work, all of it feels very lethal company-esque!
I downloaded it because the idea is so silly but kept in the modpack because the implementation is so good
And I had my mind blown seeing the switchboard pop up with an update haha

[violet delta]

ty goat

[craggy topaz]

Thanks! It always makes me super happy to hear about people enjoying the mod.

[small anvil]

i just want you to know this mod looks sick as hell

kinda reminds me of sub rosa

anyways the aesthetics of this are absolutely top notch

[violet delta]

https://tenor.com/view/no-big-deal-fake-stacks-halfwell-roblox-gif-128074131090845558

[ancient osprey]

a friend got a call from a bug and it was incredibly funny, great feature 🙂

[wintry magnet]

So there is one issue i've found. If a player revives their phone won't ring for the rest of the round until they orbit. Not sure if you can make a compatibility for when players revive.

[craggy topaz]

Which revive mod are you using? They each need compatibility specifically written for them and ReviveCompany is the only one I've looked at so far.

[dark rune]

Maybe we can try to be compatible with Bunkrevived

[serene meadow]

new feature idea for maneaters

[inland hatch]

pffffft
awesome

[median kestrel]

how it feels to use employee classes' beacon ability

[serene meadow]

holf up let me edit something rq

[serene meadow]

do any of you have the man eater crying particle effect lying around

[serene meadow]

i couldnt find the like mine smoldering and maneater crying particle effects and idont know where too so ill just leave it as this

[median kestrel]

this is fucking peak

[median kestrel]

you should make the maneater be half adult

like have half its face be transforming

[wintry magnet]

Code Rebirth 999 gal

Emergency Dice updated revive event

Usual Scrap defib (I don't use this one but I know lots of people like Usual scrap)

[serene meadow]

i might be stupid this was so obvious I was tryna get the like fire linger effects I was looking in the assets for it but couldn't find it

same with baby crying particle

I don't really know how to do all that

I lost the project file thing but it'll be easy still

the goopy particle and crying would be nice but I'm not going on a goose chase again to find those textures

[violet delta]

holy peak

you're a king

[ruby echo]

When using the purchasable option it seems the purchase stay after getting fired, I wasn't able to test it out without any other mods installed but in case

[craggy topaz]

Can I have your mod profile code so I can test and see what mod is causing it?

[silent dagger]

@craggy topaz Hi, after 2 days of searching for the surround sound problem I found the culprit - it's Lethal Phones.
Please check out my modpack, because of your mod it breaks the sound on the ship as if you are in a complex even though you are not.

0194f0aa-9c9c-ef43-07a1-2ad837209070

[craggy topaz]

Finally found what was conflicting. Looks like there's an incompatibility between Lethal Phones and Bozoros. I'm looking into what specifically in Bozoros is causing it now and if I can fix it on my end or not.

[silent dagger]

If anything this error appeared in version 1.3.0, now I use 1.2.3 and everything is normal

[craggy topaz]

It happens even without the bozoros harmony exception, so that's unrelated.
I'll just have to do some more digging to find where exactly the incompatibility is, unfortunately nothing in Bozoros' code is standing out to me at a glance.

Okay, and it's also not happening with just Lethal Phones + Bozoros, so there's a third mod I need to find. This one might take a while to figure out, I was hoping to have it out with today's patch.

[violet delta]

welcome to debugging you are the murderer, victim and detective

[craggy topaz]

always a fun time

[silent dagger]

all I can wish for is good luck🥲

[craggy topaz]

Okay, after a wild goose chase the root problem seems to be coming from BetterFog. I can point to the line of code that causes it, and I know what to change to fix the incompatibility, but I still honestly cannot tell you why exactly it only happens with BetterFog + LethalPhones + Bozoros. Just a super strange chain of events.
I'll message the dev of BetterFog about what I found.

[scarlet leaf]

I have no idea how y’all debug, it’s extremely impressive lol

[ancient osprey]

I was wondering if it's possible for custom charms/skins/ringtones to load from individual files instead of one phoneCustom file. This is mainly so I can delete files from for example Maya's additions so that RAM usage goes down significantly, which is nice for my friends with potato PCs

[tired jackal]

I can do it as an addon if you still want, but i would need it 15 seconds long

[violet oar]

Oh that's okay @silver beacon already added it to her addon ty tho!!

[tired jackal]

Oki

[tired jackal]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-gif-886916876512866984

[craggy topaz]

Looking into unloading the unused assets was on my list of things to look into next. Probably not going to make it read separate files, but I can probably make it unload the ones you blacklist.

[craggy topaz]

lots more debugging and I've found another place this can be patched on LethalPhones end, so I'm going to have that patch going out tonight or tomorrow morning. Really bizarre compatibility issue all around.

[tired jackal]

damn

i just found a really bad one

when you fly with jetpack and use phone you cant do anything but just fly

until you die

or until it runs out of charge but i think that's not possible to do in the game

[tired jackal]

also no "pesonalize phone" button lol

[wintry magnet]

@craggy topaz any chance for a way to customize the phone mid run instead of having to go back to main menu?

[jovial horizon]

in the latest version, i dont have a personalize phone button

idk why it just vanished

but when i revert versions its back

i dont have any ringtone or skin mods installed either

[warped zenith]

Seconding this if possible, but also if the only issue with it is the phone for that one person who gets revived bugs out for the round and then it fixes itself it's no biggie

[solid elk]

A Profile Code could really help here

[jovial horizon]

0195006b-9e19-96c9-3d6d-7c0d73ed7f48

[craggy topaz]

huh, yeah that totally vanished on my end too
I'll get that fixed up quick, must have been too focused on the other errors last patch.
I'll look into the jetpack issue too

I'll look into supporting a few more revive mods after I get the current list of bug reports worked through.
Customizing the phone mid-run is a maybe, I'll look into it sometime.

Patch for the missing personalize button is uploading to thunderstore now

[craggy topaz]

fix for this will be out next patch, just going to make it so you can't take out the phone if you're actively boosting with a jetpack.

[jovial horizon]

yippie ‼️

[craggy topaz]

Phones should be compatible with every revive mod next update too.

[craggy topaz]

Actually, refreshing myself on how Unity Assetbundles work, this should already be happening.
Anything you blacklist in the config should not be loaded into RAM already, so you can just use the blacklist config to cut down on customization RAM usage.

Also, just started the thunderstore upload for the jetpack fix and the revive compatibility. This should work for all revive mods now, let me know if there are any specific ones it doesn't work for.

[wintry magnet]

If you use code rebirth check out the 999 Gal, it has many configs to adjust for its healing and reviving powers. Its also very well done and works with no bugs for us.

Another one is Usual Scraps Defibs, they are very well done too and has configs to balance them how you want.

I tried a lot of the revive mods out there and most end up having some sort of issue with them, but the ones I listed work great! Plus there are tons of other features too with both mods.

I would list emergency dice updated for revives but thats a random chance lol

[wanton otter]

what does equipping the operator headphones do?

[clever barn]

i think it lets you hear when someone calls the switchboard number

[gentle sage]

yeah

and speak through it too

[wintry magnet]

@craggy topaz
[00:59:39.0444737] [Error : Unity Log] [Netcode] Failed to create object locally. [globalObjectIdHash=794407476]. NetworkPrefab could not be found. Is the prefab registered with NetworkManager?
[00:59:39.0464799] [Error : Unity Log] NullReferenceException: Object reference not set to an instance of an object
Stack trace:
NetworkObjectPatches.Postfix (Unity.Netcode.NetworkObject& result) (at <cba4b645bb244ca0b29421aa3b8a7b6a>:IL_0001)
(wrapper dynamic-method) Unity.Netcode.NetworkSpawnManager.DMD<Unity.Netcode.NetworkSpawnManager::CreateLocalNetworkObject>(Unity.Netcode.NetworkSpawnManager,Unity.Netcode.NetworkObject/SceneObject)
Unity.Netcode.NetworkObject.AddSceneObject (Unity.Netcode.NetworkObject+SceneObject& sceneObject, Unity.Netcode.FastBufferReader reader, Unity.Netcode.NetworkManager networkManager) (at <895801699cfc4b4ab52267f31e2a4998>:IL_0006)
Unity.Netcode.SceneEventData.SynchronizeSceneNetworkObjects (Unity.Netcode.NetworkManager networkManager) (at <895801699cfc4b4ab52267f31e2a4998>:IL_004E)
Unity.Netcode.NetworkSceneManager.HandleClientSceneEvent (System.UInt32 sceneEventId) (at <895801699cfc4b4ab52267f31e2a4998>:IL_0111)
Unity.Netcode.NetworkSceneManager.ClientLoadedSynchronization (System.UInt32 sceneEventId) (at <895801699cfc4b4ab52267f31e2a4998>:IL_01A5)
Unity.Netcode.SceneEventProgress.<SetAsyncOperation>b37_0 (UnityEngine.AsyncOperation asyncOp2) (at <895801699cfc4b4ab52267f31e2a4998>:IL_0012)
UnityEngine.AsyncOperation.InvokeCompletionEvent () (at <e27997765c1848b09d8073e5d642717a>:IL_000F)

Clients get this error and black screen on joining with newest update.

[craggy topaz]

Can I have your profile code for testing?

[wintry magnet]

Ok it works on version 1.3.2

0195072d-b3b1-68fc-3bca-f71b12631b31

[craggy topaz]

Looks like a compatibility issue with Giant Specimens. Their networkmanager throws an error clientside which trips up the phones.
Uploading a patch now to account for that.

Or for your list it might be a different mod incompat, but same error. New patch will work with mods that spawn null networkprefabs

[wintry magnet]

we don't run that one so now i'm curious whats doing it. so weird. it didn't start until after 1.3.2 thanks for the quick response 😄 i'll test the update out tomorrow.

[craggy topaz]

Looks like Code Rebirth was doing the same thing, new patch should account for both.

[tired jackal]

compatibility with TooManyEmotes?

when you use an emote and it ends the phone is just attached to your arm lol

[craggy topaz]

should work fine with TooManyEmotes, my group runs that often.
Whats happening for you, the phone is moving out of place after you finish an emote?

[wanton ember]

For some reason you can use the phone when you are dead

[craggy topaz]

Profile code, also steps for reproducing?
Were you like, able to answer a call or something?

[wanton ember]

01950ce8-580a-878c-49ad-7d8aedc5c63a

When I held the phone dead it would not show up but it would give me tool tips, then when I tried to add numbers I would hear the spinning so I think it just was not visable dead

[craggy topaz]

likely something caused by the changes I made to support revive mods, I'll look into it

[clever barn]

does anyone else know if masks actual voice with mirage gets stuck as staticky after the phone is hung up? just had a mask call me, hung up, and when he was walking toward me the voice was still phone quality

[craggy topaz]

I thought I noticed that too, I'll need to look into it as well

[tired jackal]

no, its just attached to my hand, even if i run it will follow the hand

[craggy topaz]

Can you send me your profile code so I can test?

[lost nacelle]

I have been trying to use this mod

AND it takes SO LONG to load into moons

[wintry magnet]

Have you tried loadstone? Sometimes too clients with lower end pcs or bad internet speeds can cause the loading to take awhile too. I haven't noticed to much of a difference with the moon loading for us outside of the normal issues when some players (usually the same players) lag and take longer to load so we have to wait for them to catch up so it lands.

[lost nacelle]

Huh near

Neat

[wintry magnet]

Not saying that will help your issues fully, but it might help a little. I just know I have similar landing issues and it's usually just due to specific players struggling a little with loading. I do honestly hope that is your issue and not some other problematic mod lol. I will also say if you have smooth reserves decor that will also be something causing hang ups on loading.

@lost nacelle I can look over your mod pack too at some point if ya want and see if I notice anything I've found to cause load time issues.

[lost nacelle]

MIGHT HELP

019515d1-39bc-98f7-65e9-d64bc906b4a3

[tired jackal]

01951a11-2447-6003-9f3b-73e41c87f6ff

[pliant tree]

This is an AMAZING mod, I've been having a blast with it and it's become one of my favorite mods of all time.

I'm curious if there's compatibility with LethalElements and Malfunctions.
With Malfunctions, the Communication Malfunction could cause phone lines to go down, while Power Malfunction could cause the switchboard to go down.
With LethalElementsBeta, hopefully Snowfall and Blizzard are automatically compatible (worsen the signal) due to WeatherRegistry, but I'm not sure. Ideally, Solar Flare would also impact phone connection and the switchboard.

[clever barn]

i thought there was something with lethal elements, specifically solar flare causing quality to drop

might be wrong though

[craggy topaz]

LethalElementsBeta has support right now, love using that mod so I had to add support. I'll have to look into Malfunctions.

[maiden ocean]

Speaking of LethalElementsBeta it did just update and rework some stuff. Not sure how much it affects your support or not.

[craggy topaz]

It shouldn't effect support unless they changed the name of any weathers. I just hook into WeatherRegistry and look for certain weather names.

[clever barn]

weatherreg recognizes all the same names so i don't think it'll affect you

[wintry magnet]

Great what I'm hearing is i should add lethal elements back in 😆

[maiden ocean]

^ Ever since I saw the blizzard weather in a youtube video I had to have it

[pliant tree]

Can confirm it's working, I was in a blizzard and could not hear even a hint of anyone's voice on the other end of the phone line

[wintry magnet]

[22:00:47.0363829] [Error : Unity Log] NullReferenceException: Object reference not set to an instance of an object
Stack trace:
Unity.Netcode.NetworkVariableBase.SetDirty (System.Boolean isDirty) (at <895801699cfc4b4ab52267f31e2a4998>:IL_0043)
Unity.Netcode.NetworkVariable1[T].Set (T value) (at <895801699cfc4b4ab52267f31e2a4998>:IL_0000) Unity.Netcode.NetworkVariable1[T].set_Value (T value) (at <895801699cfc4b4ab52267f31e2a4998>:IL_0045)
Scoops.gameobjects.SwitchboardPhone.UpdatePhoneList () (at <9f94f77c69d64de889a32b14be5ef894>:IL_0118)
UnityEngine.Events.InvokableCall.Invoke () (at <e27997765c1848b09d8073e5d642717a>:IL_0010)
UnityEngine.Events.UnityEvent.Invoke () (at <e27997765c1848b09d8073e5d642717a>:IL_0022)
Scoops.service.PhoneNetworkHandler.UpdateAllPhonesListClientRpc (System.UInt64[] phoneIds) (at <9f94f77c69d64de889a32b14be5ef894>:IL_015C)
Scoops.service.PhoneNetworkHandler.UpdateAllPhonesList () (at <9f94f77c69d64de889a32b14be5ef894>:IL_0053)
Scoops.service.PhoneNetworkHandler.RemoveNumber (System.Int16 number) (at <9f94f77c69d64de889a32b14be5ef894>:IL_0043)
Scoops.service.PhoneNetworkHandler.DeletePlayerPhone (System.Int32 playerId) (at <9f94f77c69d64de889a32b14be5ef894>:IL_0090)
Scoops.patch.StartOfRoundPhonePatch.CleanupPlayerPhone (StartOfRound& __instance, System.Int32 playerObjectNumber, System.UInt64 clientId) (at <9f94f77c69d64de889a32b14be5ef894>:IL_0029)
(wrapper dynamic-method) StartOfRound.DMDStartOfRound::OnPlayerDC(StartOfRound,int,ulong)
(wrapper dynamic-method) StartOfRound.DMDStartOfRound::OnClientDisconnect(StartOfRound,ulong)
(wrapper dynamic-method) GameNetworkManager.DMDGameNetworkManager::Singleton_OnClientDisconnectCallback(GameNetworkManager,ulong)
(wrapper dynamic-method) Unity.Netcode.NetworkConnectionManager.DMD<Unity.Netcode.NetworkConnectionManager::OnClientDisconnectFromServer>(Unity.Netcode.NetworkConnectionManager,ulong)
UnityEngine.Debug:LogException(Exception)
Unity.Netcode.NetworkConnectionManager:DMD<Unity.Netcode.NetworkConnectionManager::OnClientDisconnectFromServer>(NetworkConnectionManager, UInt64)
Unity.Netcode.NetworkConnectionManager:DisconnectRemoteClient(UInt64)
Unity.Netcode.NetworkConnectionManager:Shutdown()
Unity.Netcode.NetworkManager:DMDUnity.Netcode.NetworkManager::ShutdownInternal(NetworkManager)
Unity.Netcode.NetworkManager:NetworkUpdate(NetworkUpdateStage)
Unity.Netcode.NetworkUpdateLoop:RunNetworkUpdateStage(NetworkUpdateStage)
Unity.Netcode.<>c:<CreateLoopSystem>b__0_0()

[22:00:47.0798911] [Error : Unity Log] NullReferenceException: Object reference not set to an instance of an object
Stack trace:
Unity.Netcode.NetworkVariableBase.SetDirty (System.Boolean isDirty) (at <895801699cfc4b4ab52267f31e2a4998>:IL_0043)
Unity.Netcode.NetworkVariable1[T].Set (T value) (at <895801699cfc4b4ab52267f31e2a4998>:IL_0000) Unity.Netcode.NetworkVariable1[T].set_Value (T value) (at <895801699cfc4b4ab52267f31e2a4998>:IL_0045)
Scoops.gameobjects.SwitchboardPhone.OnDestroy () (at <9f94f77c69d64de889a32b14be5ef894>:IL_0086)

When leaving to main menu I get hit with this error.

[craggy topaz]

I had noticed that one occasionally. It shouldn't actually cause any issues since it only happens when quitting a game, but I do want to figure out how to get it fixed. Might have it resolved next patch.

[warped zenith]

Don't have a profile code atm and I'm not sure what's actually causing this to trigger - but at some point while playing this error just starts spamming the console and never stops even if moons are unloaded. It doesn't seem to actually break anything(?) except causes some lag. Based on what happened around the times it's started occurring I think it's related to lootbugs/masked using phones and despawning/dying, or people using phones and dying/despawning. First time it happened someone disconnected while on a phone, but it's been triggered by other things.

Also I'm using all the mirage stuff and I think masked have called people but they're never actually spoken over the phone, so that could be related. Lootbugs have though and that all works.

I apologize for not the most useful report lol but figured I'd mention it here just in case it's useful.

[craggy topaz]

I'll look into that, disconnecting while on a call is likely the root of the issue, Thank you for reporting!

[clever barn]

is there a way to prefix hanging up onto the disconnect function call?

[dark rune]

Did version 1.3.9 add the function of chatting with words on the mobile phone? How should I use it?

[craggy topaz]

While you're on a call, any chat messages you type will reach the person who you're calling.
It's not a texting system or anything, just a way for people without microphones to use the phone.

[simple walrus]

Can you add a config to enable calling someone via numbers on keyboard? Its weird for me, but sometimes even if i'm holding the number my mouse just click the one next to it. Like, i click and twist 6 but he chooses 5. Making it so you can use your keyboard would be enjoyable i guess

[reef zephyr]

IIRC the design of the phone was purposefully done to be annoying like that to offset its advantage over the walkie talkie

[simple walrus]

I know that, but being an config that can be disabled wouldnt be bad in my opinion

[wary needle]

Gonna chime in since I absolutely love this mod, and its become a staple in my friend group (love calling back hoarding bugs to find their nest).

Maybe some kind of button phone that could be an alternative/upgrade to the rotary dial? Having to physically push the buttons to dial is still more effort than a walkie, but still less "wonky" than a rotary dial.

Or maybe a semi-rare scrap item you can find, and which would show up on the switchboard so you can call it in-facility to find it? (see image)

just spitballing. For accessibility, keybinds would probably be helpful. Maybe having to hold the number button until the dial has spun, so its not unbalanced?

[wanton otter]

calling the scrap item gives me an idea, calling the facility intercom by finding a hidden code inside

[wary needle]

Oooo that actually sounds awesome.

Maybe emergency phones within the facility?

(if there were more enemies that cared about investigating sounds, those could be really interesting for causing distractions too)

[digital totem]

This mod is very cool but is there a way to have the phone numbers not reset when reloading/restarting?

[serene meadow]

I really like this idea just make it a one sided intercom somehow maybe an upgrade or something idk how you'd balance it but it'd be really funny

maybe from switchboard or something I just think intercoms are funny like in secret lab

[wary needle]

Yeah balancing it might be tough since it makes comms even easier for the person in the ship, and kinda makes the convenience of switchboard calling a bit obsolete

[serene meadow]

or like when you're lost as a kid at the supermarket

[wary needle]

A time limit like in SL could work?

[serene meadow]

I mean it's kinda an upgrade from the signal transmitter

[wanton otter]

i'd say having to find the code inside (and it being randomized each day) is decently balanced

[serene meadow]

could honestly be it's own mod

for an intercom ship upgrade

I do feel it's loosely related enough though

and I mean they use wall phones for the intercoms at supermarkets

sometimes

[wary needle]

It could be interesting if the intercom was also accessible in the facility directly, though that obviously doesnt make much sense when everyone always has phones (unless its like super early in a run)

[serene meadow]

zero chance I would ever use the intercom seriously I would only be doing gags with it

[wary needle]

hear me out: number fragments

[serene meadow]

plus I think it'd benefit from using the lethal phones sorta proximity audio system thing it uses

[wary needle]

Yeah an intercom/PA system definetly feels "at home" with lethal phones

especially for the operator/switchboard

[serene meadow]

I say ship upgrade with cooldowns personally

it wouldn't be any or much better than the signal transmitter

[wary needle]

Depends on how long the transmit duration and/or cooldown is

on a sort of related note regarding balancing.

Is it just me or is vibrate really powerful?

[wary needle]

imho half the fun comes from all the hilarious ringtones and the chaos they cause when you're trying to be sneaky and you suddenly have your phone ringing, be it because of other players pestering you, or receiving a yippee call.

Vibrate i feel takes away a lot of that aspect, since you still easily hear it, and it doesn't seem to come with any of the downsides of having ring mode.

Mute seems fine though - we've had cases before where people forgot to (un)mute their phone and suffered the consequences.

We sorta just informally agreed in our group not to use vibrate for that reason; but it would be nice to have a config setting for disabling vibrate.

[wintry magnet]

Client got this error spam after we went into orbit. I killed them while they were on the phone with a hording bug.

Ah so they weren't on the phone still when I killed them.

[little pilot]

Just relooked through the logs and there was also a switchboard one that was being spammed during it too but didn't realize when I first took the screenshot

[simple walrus]

I had that last one in mind. Wouldnt feel unbalanced and would be better than using mouse.

[wary needle]

Yeah that was in response to you

i think its a good idea, but it shouldnt be instant input

like you should still need to hold down the number key for as long as it takes for it to spin or smth (or add a pushbutton alternative)

[craggy topaz]

Thanks for the report! I'll look into this for next patch.

[craggy topaz]

Just posted a new mod. Not gameplay related, but a whole bunch of fixes for various Lethal Company graphics/memory issues that I've found while testing.
#1345089401100701778 message

Would be super cool if people could give it a go and let me know if it helps at all/if there's any improvements that could be made.

[wary needle]

Feels only right to ask:

sponge phone skin or charm? (i know you said you wouldnt add more, but i still oughta ask for this occasion)

[craggy topaz]

Oh, that is a good idea

[wary needle]

also on another note - unsure if you saw the conversation above that error report, but if not;

I did see there was also a github issue about it, but it cant hurt to ask here too since id also be interested - would it be possible to have a config option for disabling the use of Vibrate mode?

[craggy topaz]

That one's been on my mind, I'm not opposed to adding a config to disable Vibrate mode. I'll look into getting that in next patch.
Sponge will take up my dev time for a few days though, I imagine.

[wary needle]

Awesome, and oh yeah, sponge is great and i totally get it if it takes precedence ^^

re: vibrate, could also consider giving it some other disadvantage that counteracts it being the best option of them all. No idea what that could be though honestly. But a config for just simple balancing for now would be helpful.

[inland hatch]

Oh yeah this'd be funny I can do that

I'll throw something together before scoops' next patch

[astral shale]

i kinda hit update all on my modpack and fucked everything up

so now this error exists

lemme go grab my log

[craggy topaz]

Hard to say if that's a phone error specifically. There's a lot of errors in that log, most of them before the first Phone error so I think it's another error causing it. Seems like something else was interfering with the phones starting up properly.
Do you have a mod profile code?

[wary needle]

Oh interesting, i just looked at my log file too, and it seems that deleting a Masked via imperium (was doing cruiser jump practice and forgot to disable enemy spawning) was a bad idea...

[Error  : Unity Log] NullReferenceException
Stack trace:
UnityEngine.Transform.get_position () (at <e27997765c1848b09d8073e5d642717a>:IL_0000)
Scoops.service.ConnectionQualityManager.GetLocalInterference (Scoops.misc.PhoneBehavior phone) (at <7f8f3543fa1f45c29cec4b7ead391524>:IL_0131)
Scoops.misc.PhoneBehavior.Update () (at <7f8f3543fa1f45c29cec4b7ead391524>:IL_0001)
Scoops.misc.MaskedPhone.Update () (at <7f8f3543fa1f45c29cec4b7ead391524>:IL_013B)

^ was getting spammed up until i left the moon.

Obviously deleting an enemy isnt really "supported" so im putting this on the "consequences of using debug tools" list, but still worth pointing out maybe.

[craggy topaz]

I'll look into that, it's not "supported" but best to make sure things don't error like that

[wary needle]

If it helps with extra context: I saw the errors, realized i hadnt bought phones on that save file. Bought phones, instantly received a phone call, but the call itself was empty.

Im guessing it might have been some coincidental thing

[astral shale]

yeah i do

01954e3d-ecdd-9a60-6607-6a7a18d48ba7

good luck in there, there's around like 160-170 mods on there, but at least a third of them are suits and stuff

if this helps, all that didn't happen until i hit update all for alla these

[wary needle]

Could it be that the update to LP caused it to have an issue with one of the non-updated mods in that pack? (as in, one of the many other mods)

[astral shale]

no clue, i hit update all and started the game

[simple walrus]

Hey so... Its possible to add custom Ringtones?

Anyways found out how to do that

[wanton ember]

@craggy topaz Could you make it so that if the unlockable option is enabled masked will only spawn after you make the purchase, because if you see a mask with a phone before you buy the unlockable then its a dead give away.

[craggy topaz]

Oh good point, I need to make them check for that. The hoarding bugs too.

[wary needle]

^^^ thats actually why i bought the phone when i saw the error, it did have a phone in its hand

[wary needle]

Another idea occured to me just now after finishing a session with some friends;

How about a config option that hides the caller number when you get a call? (basically, anonymise all calls)

Our reasoning behind it would be that it lets you (re-)experience the "thrill" of not knowing if whoever is calling you is actually person, a lootbug (yipee!) or a masked (mirage mimic). At least for a bit until you pick up and listen for a while.

It also still encourages you to memorize or note down your friends' numbers to call them, but means you dont immediately know who is actually calling you (making it more likely that you pick up a fake call and get pranked, which we all know would be funny).

[meager plank]

any advice on this error?

heres my profile code if needed

01955443-746e-d312-9e74-23d41df754e9

[craggy topaz]

Is it just an error in console or is there something happening in game too? Does it happen consistently?

[meager plank]

It happens every time I boot. But I haven’t noticed any effects yet. But I also haven’t been able to test it with friends either

[violet delta]

more concerned about pikmoons not even compiling lol but the phone list error doesn't seem bad at the surface

[meager plank]

Apparently he’s fixing that in the next update lol. I think it’s conflicting with weather registry but he said everything should still work ok. I think there was some left over thing for weathers that he never implemented

So if nothing happens with the phone error I can ignore that too?

[wary needle]

If nothing seems to break in-game its probably safe to "ignore, but continue to monitor"

[craggy topaz]

yeah, should be good to ignore, but I'll try to get it fixed for next patch

[clever barn]

this error started getting spammed in my testing at one point, idk what caused it, but it would reappear every time i loaded the save

[digital totem]

Is there a way to get lethal phones in vr?

[craggy topaz]

Sadly no. Maybe one day if I get a VR setup and can spend a lot of time developing on it, but they're too tied to non-VR right now.
It's on my very very distant bucket list for the mod though.

[digital totem]

OK :(

i mean atleast i can still use the thing in the ship

[marble turret]

Hey I noticed a small bug in the game, if the phone upgrade is purchased it persists through rounds. Me and a friend bought the upgrade, was later ejected, and still had the phones purchased

[craggy topaz]

I've seen some reports of that. Did you have any mods that made ship furniture persist between rounds?

Or if you can give me your profile code I can test it myself.

[marble turret]

I did have general improvements and I haven't messed all the configs revolving that

Also yeah let me get it rq

019568ee-e459-e110-c62c-f69ea82fe0cd

sry there it is, I got sidetracked mb

[marble turret]

Also, using Lobby Control Experimental, a guy joined back after leaving/getting disconnected and his left hand stayed out as if he had his phone out always. With Lobby Control, you can have people join back just like Late Company

I don't know who specifically am supposed to report this to so I'm reporting it to both.

[craggy topaz]

So his hand stayed out even after he took out/put away his phone? Thanks for the reports.

[marble turret]

Nono. When we where in orbit and he joined, he spawned in with his hand out as if he was holding the phone

But your welcome. I really like this phone mod!

[marble turret]

I don't know if it was someone that joined from morecompany, this guy had a bunch of issues related to the phone. When he spawned in for the first time, he had a floating phone in front of him and a phone in his hand and they wouldn't dissappear. We hadn't even purchased the phones yet

[wanton otter]

could still hear a maneater crying on the other side of a phone even after it was pacified

[gentle sage]

rather than maskeds randomly spawning with phones, could there be a way to make it so that players turned into maskeds either by putting one on/getting turned into one or the mirage revive system will keep their phone on them?

[craggy topaz]

That might be possible, I'll have to look into that as an option.

[craggy topaz]

My group ran into this issue too, I'll try to figure out why it happened. Thanks for the report!

[wary needle]

Watched a movie a few days ago where this happened and figured i might aswell suggest it

An option where your phone plays the "invalid/busy number beeps" when the call gets disconnected (be it you get hung up on or disconnected from death)

This is like a super common trope in a lot of movies, so itd be kinda neat to have it as a little fun option (and better indicator of having lost connection when you arent holding up the phone)

[wary needle]

https://thunderstore.io/c/lethal-company/p/LethalPhones_Ringtones/

A.) odd uploader name that made me go "is this a reupload?" and B.) why is this person uploading mods that replace the built-in ringtones instead of adding new ones lol

[reef zephyr]

🤷‍♂️

[craggy topaz]

huh, that's pretty strange, not gonna lie
Seems like a lot more effort to replace than to just add new ones.

[wary needle]

Reminds me that i really should make my own ringtone at some point lol

Seems fairly straightforward, but i say that having not touched unity in about.... 8 years

[small anvil]

just wanted to say again

this mod is adorable

i am going to give it a spin with my friends next we play

[clever barn]

got this posted twice on lobby load

log before it was [Info :LethalPhones] New phone for object: 390

and this on lobby close

first error might not be this mod

[craggy topaz]

Is this a fresh lobby or loading a save?

[clever barn]

loaded a save with the switchboard unlocked

[craggy topaz]

Okay, I think I've been seeing that. Hopefully this helps narrow it down. Thanks for reporting!

[silent dagger]

Hi, I found some errors. I don't know if they are critical, but they don't interfere with the game. Probably.
0195a8a3-7679-f0fb-7ba2-6087a216c963

[craggy topaz]

Interesting, first one is actually a Lethal Sponge error.
Second one seems to be an error with LethalInternship's Compat for Lethal Phones.

I'll looking into the first one, second might be best to report to LethalInternship. Thanks for reporting!

[gentle sage]

here's a report, unsure what happened but its big and scary and in my console lol
0195ad01-309b-bbc8-6b6c-f2673a3d5992

loading an existing save, i dont think i had the switchboard purchased but it has suddenly appeared

[craggy topaz]

The switchboard suddenly appearing is a new one, I'll look into that.
Did any other items suddenly appear, and did you change mods at all between saving and loading? I know adding new mods can sometimes mess with IDs and spawn in objects you didn't have before on a save.

[lone prairie]

I get this error message when I create a new file but only like 60% of the time?? Sometimes the game is just like "all good baby 😎 "
I have the switch furniture auto-unlocked and positioned with FurnitureLock fyi.

[craggy topaz]

Just uploaded 1.3.14, should fix the exception being thrown when loading a save with the Switchboard unlocked.

[gentle sage]

two story ship updated and added some furniture, that was probably it because the furniture they added also spawned in too

[small anvil]

a friend is intermittently crashing while we use the mod

not too surprising (they are on sort of low end hardware and it may not be this mod's fault)

but what actually is a problem is that when that person crashes

it breaks everybody's microphone

possibly not lethal phones (we've also added lethal sponge since the last setting and i didn't have dedupe audio turned off, will try that next we play)

but anyways by "break everybody's microphone" i mean that nobody can hear each other's voices anymore

whether by phone or just in person

[clever barn]

i've had this happen too but it only affected 1 person at a time in my case

[broken iris]

🌟 New Feature Request + Enhancement:
Buy a Personal 📞 Phone # via Switchboard 📠 + Fix Phone Numbers Resetting After Reloading a Save

Description:
I think it would be a great feature if players could pay the company via the 📠 switchboard to get a permanent personal phone number. Something like 💳 50 Credits to the greedy company to reserve a number. This would make sense both mechanically and thematically.

🔄 Note: This feature would only make sense after phone numbers are made to persist across save reloads.

✅ Why this would be a great addition:
📌 Adds an in-universe reason to have a consistent number

💰 Creates a fun and optional credit sink

🎮 Enhances immersion and player identity

🫱🏼‍🫲🏼 Makes communication feel more meaningful in long-term saves

Loving this mod & excited to see where it goes! 🔧 📡

[manic pilot]

I would love a "buy your number/select your number" feature, it's really hard to keep track of the numbers if the group is 5+ members, with a consistent one would be much easier and personal

[manic pilot]

I've been having that in my group too, it's weird because it isn't really that someone crashes but suddenly one person hears some people and not others and the only consistent thing I could do to fix it is restart the server. Also, I turned off deduping audio in lethalsponge and kept happening so yeah

[small anvil]

i see

that's unfortunate

i was hoping the dedupe thing would fix it

[manic pilot]

Yeah, me too

[broken iris]

Totally agree! Being able to “buy your number/select your number” would be a huge quality-of-life improvement.

Make sure to upvote 👆🏼 so it gets noticed, would love to see this added to the game! :)

[warped zenith]

For what it's worth I haven't ever had this bug but I also haven't updated lethalsponge in about a week since I've seen all the bug reports, so it may very well be sponge or an interaction between sponge/phones

I have had some people unable to hear others from time to time, and they hear the other person with like 3 minutes delay, but the last time that happened it caught up after about 5 mins

[inland hatch]

is this written with chatgpt or something lol

gives me corporate email vibes

[broken iris]

Yes, I throw my ideas into ChatGPT and go back and forth with it until I have a clear, easy-to-understand message for a wide audience. Then I make manual tweaks to the final version, and before I paste it into Discord, I format it with things like bold and italics.

So you could say its %50 Human & %50 AI

[inland hatch]

wild
kids these days lol

[manic pilot]

oof, please don't

[broken iris]

No, we as humans need to work with the tools given to us. it's about being efficient @manic pilot

[craggy topaz]

Huh, so it disables all voice in the lobby every time this person crashes? Does this happen every time and are there any errors when they crash?
I've seen intermittent reports of voice cutting out but never for the whole lobby.

[broken iris]

@manic pilot @inland hatch
Many Devs use things like Cursor ai (Deleted link as informed by OP) to help them code faster. There is nothing wrong with. You work with the best technology given to you. Like you would code a video game from scratch, no! You use an engine like Unity to code the game, and any other resources to make that process faster & efficient! :) Technogly FTW!

[inland hatch]

how many tokens did you spend on that only to still have typos

[broken iris]

that was all me

[inland hatch]

i use the tools given to me too i get it. keyboard and a brain go far

[broken iris]

You're not being logical about it

[inland hatch]

business major-ass

[broken iris]

?

[manic pilot]

I just prefer not to use generative AI, as a graphic designer myself, It just defeats the purpose of creativity and willing to learn skills. But that's just my POV.

[broken iris]

Sorry if you feel offended, but this has nothing to do with ego or pride. This is coming from a purely logical point of view.

[inland hatch]

this fuckin guy

[broken iris]

I see what you mean.

I respect your point of view as an artist and i see why you feel that way

[manic pilot]

Good, with that I'm not continuing this conversation, because this is not the place for it

[broken iris]

and you proceed to react with a clown emoji, again please stop the disrespect.

thank you

[inland hatch]

calls em as i sees em bud

[craggy topaz]

I'd personally prefer that people don't post links to AI tools in any of my threads, thank you.

[broken iris]

Same, I just called you out from coming from a emotional stance.

[broken iris]

I won't do that again, I just not going to take disrespect from this person emotional outrage. Especially words like bud, fuckin, and ass. Un-called for.

[inland hatch]

bud fuckin-ass was my high school nickname

[broken iris]

the human ego is an interesting thing...

[small anvil]

only tested twice (it was late and we didnt want to spend a lot of time troubleshooting)

but yeah, consistently we had the same person crash both times (not saying this is a lethal phones problem)

and the instant they crashed, every player's microphone was effectively permamuted

(maybe a lethal phones problem? sponge dedupe?)

[craggy topaz]

That's fascinating. If it happens again and you're able to get logs for them/other players that would be great.
I'm having a hard time tracking this audio related issue as there really aren't any good ways to repro it on my end yet.
If anything touched player voices my guess would be phones, but it's possible it's sponge.
I know this is also just a base lethal bug that pops up sometimes but I want to be sure neither mod is making it more common.

[small anvil]

yeah sorry no logs yet

i wanted to make a few changes and retest next time we played, and i didn't think to pull the most recent logs

from everyone

i will update you if that changes

next time we will test with audio dedupe off, and i removed some unrelated mods that might be increasing VRAM usage (the friend that's crashing has extremely low vram)

[broken iris]

Also, I’d appreciate it if disrespect in your thread was acknowledged too. Rules 2.0 (discrimination), 3.0 (disruptive behavior), 6.0 (maturity), and 7.0 (arguments) were clearly crossed in the replies I received.

🤔 Back to the actual topic, what do you think about the feature request itself?

[manic pilot]

I think it's time you drop the topic already, act like the bigger person and back off. If we go by the rules there are several you broke too like #3 (Disruptive Behaviour), #4 (No Discussing Controversial Topics), #6 (Maturity), #7 (Arguments) and #9 (Advertising). So, for the good of this topic I think that's enough.

[craggy topaz]

As I've already stated, static/configurable personal numbers are not currently planned. Perhaps in the future after I've finished other planned features and bugfixes.
And to be quite honest, using an AI generated sales pitch is not a good way to convince me to move it up my priority list. It comes off as unprofessional and a bit demeaning.

[median kestrel]

I think static personal numbers aren't super fun esp since once you play once or twice with someone it becomes really easy to dial their number, but perhaps them staying inbetween lobby reloads would be good (I haven't played with phones in a while don't kill me if his is already in waaa)

[median kestrel]

I'm not entirely sure how you would go about this though

[broken iris]

@craggy topaz @manic pilot
Just to clarify, I didn’t break any of the rules that were mentioned.

Rule 3 (Disruptive Behavior): I didn’t spam or derail anything. I was directly tagged and responded respectfully. The derailment came from people mocking me, not the other way around.

Rule 4 (Controversial Topics): That rule covers things like politics or religion, not AI tools or productivity. I didn’t even bring anything up about that. I was pressed by Myliaa on it.

Rule 6 (Maturity): I never insulted anyone. Meanwhile, I was called things like “this f***ing guy” and “business major-ass.” That speaks for itself.

Rule 7 (Arguments): I wasn’t trying to argue. I pointed out the disrespect once, referenced the rules, and brought the conversation back to the actual topic.

**Rule 9 ** (Advertising): I wasn’t advertising anything. I shared a dev tool in context, then deleted the link after OP asked, out of respect.

**I’ve always supported creativity. I’ve spent hundreds on Fiverr for custom cartoon art and fan commissions. I’m also a fitness content creator with over 100 million views on Instagram. **

So to say I’m “not creative” because I occasionally use tools like AI (25-35% of the time) to improve communication is not only untrue, it’s disrespectful. You don't even know me. I'm one of the few people here that show my face.

I’ve stayed calm and respectful throughout. I’m not here to argue, just to contribute.

---

I’d appreciate some acknowledgment from OP that the disrespect I received isn’t okay, especially considering the rules that are clearly in place.

If that’s not going to be addressed, I’ll assume this kind of behavior is allowed here and take it up with the moderators directly. I’m not looking to escalate, but I do think mutual respect should matter.

[inland hatch]

someone's got a bruised ego huh

woof

sorry man, didnt realize how badly you needed AI to communicate properly

now i get it though

[median kestrel]

Just drop it man

You were both disrespectful to eachother, that's the end of it

Ya gotta move on

[inland hatch]

ill stop poking the bear too xD

[median kestrel]

Both of yous

Yeah

You're halting any actually meaningful discussion by wanting to get the last word in, so I say agree to disagree and move on

[broken iris]

• Rule 3 (Disruptive Behavior)
• Rule 7 (Arguments)

I'll be reporting this to Admins

[median kestrel]

@steep wasp I'm sorry to bother you, but they don't seem to want to listen to me...

I tried to stop the argument but one of the parties just doesn't seem to want to listen and wants to have the final word. Well, to some extent both do

[inland hatch]

naw ill shut up now, i said my piece im good

unless i got other stuff to say in here or w/e but ive put lethalphones modeling work on backburner for a bit lol

maybe thats what ill do today tbh i got free time

[broken iris]

I see why there is bias against me now...

[lone prairie]

Maybe you're just an asshole.

[broken iris]

respect the commnity, stop it

[lone prairie]

[craggy topaz]

Yeah, part of the point of the number system is to make it difficult to remember and dial numbers.
Staying between reloads would be a little tricky, which is why I haven't tackled it quite yet. I'd have to save phone number data tied to the save file, and that still wouldn't cover cases when the lobby is restarted before a save can happen. It's something I'd need to think on, not a big fan of adding more save data for such a small thing.

[broken iris]

@steep wasp

[steep wasp]

huh

[broken iris]

why is disrespect allow in the server?

[steep wasp]

in what context?

[formal ferry]

I’m of the opinion that its a comm device that doesn’t need power & it only recently got affected by weather conditions so, a little difficulty such as “remembering” numbers is fine I think.

I say remembering because theres gunna be some people who keep the numbers open on another monitor (i know one person in my group who does this)

[lone prairie]

I actually like the idea that you need to pick up the clipboard and such. Very old-fashioned = 3 =

[inland hatch]

ive found that between the switchboard/having an operator and the clipboard, most the number stuff has felt resolved in a nice way

people don't have to remember all numbers but still remember some over the session

the mod has felt more complete with em

i tend to grab a belt bag for tools and stuff a spare clipboard in there so i can be operator even while im afield faffing about killing stuff or w/e

all without needing a notepad open anymore

[lone prairie]

I never even tried to leave as the operator...

[inland hatch]

well, it does take the actual operator headphones off when you leave the ship sadly, but if people memorize my personal number i still play the role to the best of my ability xD

[lone prairie]

Ohh gotcha

[inland hatch]

more than once ive been on a call with someone on the switchboard and theyve heard me run out of the ship swearing at a beastie only to have the headphones return to the switchboard, picked up again a minute later by me being like "hi im back where were we"

as it doesnt cut the call, just drops the headphones

[lone prairie]

lol

[inland hatch]

the more proactive solution is to transfer someone to my personal cell before running off

but bloodlust takes over sometimes

[lone prairie]

an operator's life is a hard one

[inland hatch]

such is the burden of the designated ship kitten ...

[steep wasp]

@broken iris dont think to hard about your response, just say it as it is so we can all move on

[lone prairie]

catptain

[inland hatch]

that's what they call me in barotrauma too...

the curse of the one at the helm. truly a hard life in our enclosure

[small anvil]

on an unrelated note it would be kinda nice qol if the headphones stayed on when you are just on the ship's deck

being "the ship player" usually involves giving time checks which requires going outside

not a huge deal to just put the headphones back on but it could be a little more fluid

[inland hatch]

yeah, thats come up a few times in dev discussions, i would also personally like it if it was a little longer range — it runs off ship boundaries inherent rather than a distance iirc so its rather automatic

[lone prairie]

"inside ship" territory

[inland hatch]

we started running a wider deck mod and ive been hanging out on the patio so to speak, so its def come up

we have this delightful radio station mod and put the radio on a picnic table out there. enrichment for the coward brave and essential ship operator that I am

[broken iris]

@steep wasp

I’ve been part of a discussion where multiple users have disrespected me directly, despite me keeping my responses calm, respectful, and focused on the topic. Here's a breakdown of what happened:

1. The Start:
   I responded to a light question about ChatGPT use, after requesting a light hearted feature.

Myliaa replied with sarcastic, mocking comments:

“is this written with chatgpt or something lol”
“business major-ass”
“this f**in guy”*
“someone's got a bruised ego huh”

2. Disruption & False Rule Claims:
   Kenji reacted with a clown emoji and later falsely accused me of breaking rules.

I never insulted anyone or spammed, and I deleted the one AI tool link I posted when the OP asked, out of respect.

3. My Clarification:
   I listed the rules that were actually violated by others:

• Rule 2.0 (Discrimination/Harassment) – multiple personal insults and mockery.
• Rule 3.0 (Disruptive Behavior) – derailing the convo with jabs.
• Rule 6.0 (Maturity) – clown emojis, name-calling.
• Rule 7.0 (Arguments) – public insults and drama despite me staying civil.

4. My Direct Quotes for Reference:
   “Just to clarify, I didn’t break any of the rules that were mentioned…” (I then outlined each point calmly)

“I’ve stayed calm and respectful throughout. I’m not here to argue, just to contribute.”

5. Biased Dismissals & Favoritism:
   Myliaa later admitted she works on the LethalPhones mod:
   “i’ve put lethalphones modeling work on backburner for a bit”

This could explain why her disrespect was ignored while I was being accused of “arguing” by others.

My comment: “I see why there is bias against me now…” was in reference to this relationship. not emotion.

That’s when I tagged you, asking why this behavior is allowed. -(edit took out the bold letters)

---

For refence I’ve always supported creativity. I’ve spent hundreds on Fiverr for custom cartoon art and fan commissions. I’m also a fitness content creator with over 100 million views on Instagram.
So to say I’m “not creative” because I occasionally use tools like AI (25-35% of the time) to improve communication is not only untrue, it’s disrespectful. They don't even know me. I'm one of the few people here that show my face.**

I’ve stayed calm and respectful throughout. I’m not here to argue, just to contribute.

[steep wasp]

jesus luke

[broken iris]

sorry that took so long i had to cite her words

[inland hatch]

https://thunderstore.io/c/lethal-company/p/Bobbie/RadioFurniture/v/1.0.0/
this is the mod, can't recommend it enough it's so charming

[steep wasp]

@broken iris next time if you are asked a question, write it out in your own words without the use of AI please

[broken iris]

please make this a rule

[steep wasp]

i just did, for you

[broken iris]

i just went back and found the cites

Is disrespect allowed here???? They doesn't take anyway from the issue.

Do you want to discuss this in a voice call, face to face?

[median kestrel]

oh dude i love that mod so much

[inland hatch]

its remarkable, not being able to change back after the station swaps adds so much charm

[broken iris]

I see a clear bias in this convo

[inland hatch]

wish it was easier to find out the name of the station you are on but thats a small quibble

[steep wasp]

alright, @broken iris i can see why you feel disrespected and i do agree that the way people responded to you was childish and some even mean.
but on the other hand, the initial responses of people telling you to "please not use AI" were fair and neutral, past that point, both sides could have done better and stuff gone down.
my advice to you tho, dont take it too serious and just move on when you are told that by others, retrospect if you are able to

[inland hatch]

we spent ages just listening to this one https://somafm.com/missioncontrol/ when we random rolled it on the funny radio and its since become one of the things i listen to while working for background noise

[broken iris]

So disrespect is allowed in the community with no reprocussions?

[inland hatch]

Wait no that's the wrong link

Hold on im a fool

[broken iris]

i didnt call any names, unlike them

[steep wasp]

@inland hatch you did instigate past a point of fairness and i like to also adress that. dont do this, its was very childish and unnecessary. Either leave it alone or ask more questions before you judge, and if you then do judge, dont do it aggressively, that doesnt make any sense

[inland hatch]

There fixed the link

[manic pilot]

Don't mention me because I did not such thing, I tried to descalate and you continued

[north glade]

https://tenor.com/view/popcorn-brb-eating-stealing-catsdoingthings-gif-16767943

[broken iris]

That was my mad, %100 my mistake there you right. I meant it for someone else.

[inland hatch]

Yeah, I def kept antagonizing a little, sorry about that xD

[broken iris]

passive aggressive again^

[steep wasp]

just let it go pls

[broken iris]

So, a slap on the wrist as punishment. I see the bias....

[lone prairie]

lol bro...

[steep wasp]

@broken iris last chance

[broken iris]

what a fair and loving community

ill make a video on it, bye

[median kestrel]

you are both getting a slap on the wrist

[noble prawn]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-on-fire-sitting-edited-on-fire-fire-gif-17645117

[manic pilot]

jeez

[steep wasp]

alright, please carry on as you were

[inland hatch]

you got it boss

uhhhh

so what number do yall use as switchboard number

curious whether people use default or customize it in configs

[lone prairie]

Me trying to remember how to call operator when a bracken is nearby

[inland hatch]

ever run the kidnapping brackens mod, where they grab you and drag you away before killing you
dialing while being dragged is the most stressful thing

trying to warn someone frantically

[median kestrel]

omg i wonder if the aloe allows you to dial while its kidnapping you

[manic pilot]

yeah you're all right, part of the fun is the phones being a bit unreliable and playing with not remembering the numbers

[inland hatch]

probably! havent tried it but id bet you can, you can dial in most circumstances

[median kestrel]

neato

[old furnace]

[lone prairie]

Oh god I love/hate that mod

[old furnace]

Im waiting for this top of the line yt video

[small anvil]

dialing 0 for operator is the most immediately intuitive option

[lone prairie]

lol

[small anvil]

but on the rotary wheel 0 takes the longest to dial and each number has to be 4 digits

so it takes much longer to dial 0000 than 1111 and i suppose that's why the default is the way it is

[inland hatch]

mhm, that's why we put it like that. it was tempting to set it to 0000 or 1234 tho we discussed it iirc

been a while

[craggy topaz]

Default operator number is one of the few things I decided would be kind

haha

[inland hatch]

a rarity

;p

[lone prairie]

decided

[inland hatch]

meanwhile our group runs with a number that entirely consists of the last 3 digits on the dial, with two 0s

because kindness only goes so far

[lone prairie]

which of you gets to be 007

[inland hatch]

if only i could be so cool

no instead to contact me they dial 8008 because we're apparently children at heart

[lone prairie]

hah

[inland hatch]

as long as its memorable i suppose ...

i think i will crack open blender again today for phones stuff actually its been a bit
got some experimenting to do still, trying something weird out that needs some clever blendshape tricks to execute

[north rapids]

My memory is of a gold fish so I can only remember about one person's number for a round each time, its pretty perfect, I get to annoy and call @wintry magnet bald on the phone because I don't know others' phone numbers

[lone prairie]

pinged, even when not in the game. brutal

[north rapids]

He is in the game, he just lost it again though

[inland hatch]

hahahaha

it's a good flow though right? i'm real fond of it

[north rapids]

Yeah it's pretty fun

Only complaint I really had was that I was told the ringtone volume config only affects my own ringtone, and when people are trolling ringing others in the ship in orbit its a lot of voices and I just can't handle too many voices at once lol

[inland hatch]

lmfao aint that a mood
gets so noisy

do you mean that other ringtones aren't controlled by your volume config, though? and that it only decides how loud yours is, to you and everyone else?

[north rapids]

Thats what i was told that config did (changing the config would change my own ringtones volume to myself an others), I tried changing it a bit but couldn't tell a difference really

I would've imagined it would lower all ringtones personally to me

[inland hatch]

humm, i'll keep an eye on that next time i use it then

i'd also probably read it as that -- though i guess the ideal world would have both total volume and personal volume adjustable

not sure the overhead on that tho im just the artist 😇

[north rapids]

So is it personal volume or total volume lmao

[inland hatch]

beats me

would have to test

[north rapids]

[inland hatch]

@craggy topaz do you recall off the top of your head?

[north rapids]

But yeah if it's not total volume it would help a lot if a total volume was added, its the only reason I asked for the mod to be taken off since I can't listen to my own annoying voice in my head 😭

[inland hatch]

mooooood

that's another perk of being the phone operator only... i don't appear in all the silly clips my friends save

so i am spared that pain

usually, anyways

[north rapids]

I'm never part of the clips, but my creations always make it there loool

[inland hatch]

its a nice feeling

every time i see someone use the phone in one i smile

[craggy topaz]

It should be effecting all ringtones, so that's a bug if it's not.
I'll look into fixing that.

[gentle sage]

-# taking bets the video script is ai generated, odds are 15/1

ai aside i do like the feature request, that could be paired with being given a new number every time you die unless you've purchased a number (like, you lose your company phone and are given a new one)

[small anvil]

i'd also like the option for preset phone numbers on a per-player basis (ideally if the host could customize it for everyone that'd be awesome)

but i do understand the development overhead + the fact it's balanced surrounding the clipboard and switchboard, so it's not really a dealbreaker

[inland hatch]

i have always been fond of having a new number after death

as a concept

being able to pay a little tax to change your number paired with that isn't the worst idea by any means

it does feel like a little bit of, mmm, bloat i guess?

the phones can't get too complex otherwise it'd ruin the feel

but

i'd super like it if that system existed

so

[gentle sage]

yeah i agree, part of the charm is the simplicity of it all

but having customisation is nice too, you get to create your own game balance in a pack

[inland hatch]

there might be a way to execute on it and not ruin the feel

mhm

the visual customization added a ton to the vibes after all

[gentle sage]

it really did

[inland hatch]

next time we're talking a proper update for it i'll bring up the idea again

[wary needle]

Maybe an upgrade to allow you to remove a leading digit?

[inland hatch]

now that one is probably a hard no unfortunately lol

[gentle sage]

also to this, phones have a very lovely use in a pack i played with friends

[inland hatch]

our attitude towards the digits has always been rather strict in that dialing 4 numbers is a big part of the "balance" of the mod

[gentle sage]

(took a long time to upload)

[wary needle]

Oh yeah no i totally understand that, i had a hard time convincing my group to switch to 4 digits after using 3 digits for a while, but its overall been nicer even if its more difficult

[inland hatch]

im hardly the ultimate authority on those design decisions but thats been the impression ive been under

did you get fistbumped to the backrooms lmfao what the hell

[wary needle]

Though, i guess to bring up the "disable vibrate" suggestion i did quite a while back - maybe an upgrade for that?

[inland hatch]

that's fantastic

[gentle sage]

yeah we had it set so theres a 1% of going to the backrooms on taking damage

its unfortunate the mod has a lot of compatibility issues, it ended up being really fun

[inland hatch]

that's still on the to-do list for stuff we're thinking about yeah

haven't forgotten there don't worry

[gentle sage]

punches were also set to do 1 damage so we'd just walk up and slap each other to see if we rolled backrooms

[inland hatch]

that's so silly and goofy

love it

[wary needle]

that is amazing

[gentle sage]

it was a very fun pack

but alas, backrooms mod has many issues

[wary needle]

As an upgrade it would still need to i guess have some kind of "soft downside"

(it shouldnt be silent to enemies basically, or something along those lines - otherwise it becomes a must-have upgrade)

[inland hatch]

my personal (read: not scoops' or discussed at all) thoughts are that i wouldn't mind vibrate just having a drastically lower noise impact than the ringtone when it comes to detection, but not zero (which it is currently)
but im not sure how granular one can get with that, dunno the detection levels for base lethal company stuff -- ik there are different ones, but many sounds are just considered 'none' or 'lots'

that makes sense to me for what vibrate would be

[wary needle]

Yeah, might be difficult to get it right

[inland hatch]

having it be an upgrade, eh, i don't know? for that i'd probably say it'd make sense if there was other 'upgrade' features with the phone

like, it'd totally work in that case

but i wouldn't want it to be the only upgrade, yfeel

[wary needle]

Yeah for sure

[inland hatch]

and i'd want us to be damn sure of the design direction before we went and added a bunch of upgrades

[gentle sage]

to be honest, as it is, me and my friends dont really use the vibrate/silent mode
and when we do, we put it on one on accident, forget its like that, and then never hear the phone go off for the rest of the game

that may be a skill issue, but its sort of easy to forget

[inland hatch]

i always yell at people to put their phones on vibrate whenever we go to dog happy moons

[wary needle]

Yeah we ended up making a rule in our group to just not use vibrate

[inland hatch]

and sometimes call people i know are forgetful when i see they're near a dog

just to try and have them learn

because i am a vindictive captain

[gentle sage]

lmao evil

[wary needle]

because its too easy to just leave it on that and forget, same with silent though that comes with the downside of missing calls

[gentle sage]

phones are a last resort for us mostly

[inland hatch]

this is a callout post for the specific player that i made the star trek red shirt phone skin for

dude just loves dying

[gentle sage]

we still use walkies and go in as groups but if we get stuck or seperated or lost whoevers in the ship pulls their phone out

[inland hatch]

that's really great to hear, that's kind of what we wanted, walkies to also have a use

[gentle sage]

yeah, the balance is pretty solid tbh

[north rapids]

The game has a few neat things with sound that's pretty simple, simple stuff like alerting dogs and whatnot, and my favourite, making maneaters turn into adults, that's a lovely sound

[inland hatch]

our group doesn't use them just out of personal preference so its awesome to hear that other groups do still and it works well

[gentle sage]

though sometimes the signal/quality is a bit over the top

ive got a friend who cant really understand anything on the phone half the time and ends up hanging up

[inland hatch]

it gets so aggressive yeah. i'd recommend trying out buying radar boosters and using those more often, if it fits the flow of your crew

[gentle sage]

have to admit ive never touched a radar booster before

[inland hatch]

as that improves quality

[wary needle]

I still totally want the "disconnected" sound to be one of those hollywood busy beep tropes

[inland hatch]

yeah i didnt either until we tried this

lol

[gentle sage]

i might have to try next time but we kinda reserve phones for uh oh moments rather than daily usage

[wary needle]

Like, the comedy aspect of "Oh god im about to d- beep, beep, beep"

[inland hatch]

having one on the cruiser helps, and sometimes i have 'em stick one just inside main on serious business moons

[inland hatch]

that would be great tbh
alternate disconnect noise for sudden call cut could be fun

rather than manual hangup

[gentle sage]

we dont usually have a ship captain actually, all of us go in and someone may return and stay back and sit on cams for the last few hours

yeah id like a disconnect sound a lot

[inland hatch]

would definitely remove a bit of the 'mystery' so to speak of what happened to the person on the other end

but the vibes of that distinctive beep are on point

so maybe worth it

[gentle sage]

its hard to tell when someone died at times which can be good but ive got clips of friends dying right in front of me on the phone

having a beep would make that hilarious

[small anvil]

walkies have a disconnect sound too

if someone dies on the speaker

so it works for parity as well

[inland hatch]

do they now? that's neat

wasn't aware of that

[gentle sage]

to be fair thats a bit more specific, since youd have to be speaking into the walkie right?

[small anvil]

yeah but if you're about to die to something and have a walkie you're probably holding the button

unless you're actively fighting it, anyway

[gentle sage]

tru tru

[lone prairie]

That is audio of an asset peeing. How could you record and upload that

[wary needle]

I mean with the static sounds its pretty clear usually

[inland hatch]

trueeee

[gentle sage]

wot da hell are you doooing!!

[inland hatch]

gotta close the game im playing and work more on phones now

really fun prospective thing that idk if it'll ever see the light of day that ive been working on

trickier and out of my normal modeling wheelhouse, havent done stuff like this since i made some stuff for risk of rain 2

yall got me all motivated again

[wary needle]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eWrA2HXUhHs for reference, the beeps im referring to (without that long one at the end)

It would be perfect

[inland hatch]

long one could work too tbh

[gentle sage]

dont you get this if you dial a wrong number?

[wary needle]

That too, but its become somewhat of a hollywood trope to use it when you get hung up on

[gentle sage]

i mean, in game currently its that way iirc

but yeah tru

[wary needle]

Yeah i know

It gives that kinda vibe yknow

[lone prairie]

No no wait, the other one. The rapid error beep

For disconnextion

[wary needle]

also hey i might aswell bring this up again since you said "we havent forgotten" about the other one

just to check/confirm since i got no reply on it when i posted initially: did you guys see the other suggestion about an option to anonymise incoming calls? (to encourage you to pick up every call, including potential fauna ones, since you dont know who is calling you now)

[inland hatch]

uh can't speak for scoops but i didn't see that, at the very least

it's added to my mental list now

i dig it

config toggle for that prolly as learning to recognize numbers is important so i'd want it to be a per-group choice

but i can fuck with it

[wary needle]

Yeah config for sure

[wary needle]

Usually the numbers for fauna/masked are very different from players - as in, even if you dont fully remember the whole 4 digit numbers, you can still tell its wrong because the first 2 digits are neither of your buds' numbers

So not seeing the incoming call number would mean you're more likely to get trolled by said fauna, since you are incentivised to pick up every call because you dont know who it could be

[inland hatch]

mhm, if you use the phones often enough in a session with 5 or less people, you'll very quickly realize 'thats not one of the set of numbers ive been seeing'

[wary needle]

Exactly

[inland hatch]

people so rarely pick up when i call hoarding bugs and then transfer them to others anymore...

i did not see your original suggestion re:that but your thoughts have echoed my own about how i wish it was a little less clear sometimes

[wary needle]

• Im already on call with friend A
• get an incoming - could this be friend B or C?
• "okay ill call u back, someone else is calling me"
• "yippeee"

[inland hatch]

about what's real and not, particularly with mirage

yippee bugs my beloved

[wary needle]

absolutely with mirage, we've had it before where friend was switchboard operator

saw the incoming call was YoshiWoof

didnt look at the number

picked up, got confused because i apparently yapped about a spike trap

[inland hatch]

the ideal

[wary needle]

meanwhile i was dead

to the masked, that was calling

[gentle sage]

i mentioned a while back about mirage compat where instead of masked spawning with phones, players that die and revive as a mirage keep their phone

[inland hatch]

one of my favorite tricks has been to freak out by just standing there with my phone out and set to silent, watching them
so they're like "wait. why are you in the facility you're never in the facility. you're not real are you"
and then they call my number to check if they hear the ring from my phone

[gentle sage]

so whenever you get a call from a player, its the same number, and you probably dont even know that theyre actually dead

[inland hatch]

but since i set it to silent... i can then chase them halfway across the map before they realize im NOT a masked

[gentle sage]

lmfao thats evil

[inland hatch]

that'd probably have to be bundled with a number spoofing/anonymity system (which would be required for what we're talking about anyways), and i don't think that currently exists

tho it wouldn't be hard to implement i reckon, just the visuals after all

[gentle sage]

aye, fair

[wary needle]

The best one so far was two friends of mine in facility, with me being on call from the ship/switchboard aka 1111 trying to guide them.

Then i hear, through the phone, "oh yoshi you're also here" as i am clearly still in the ship.

I wish i had recorded that.

[gentle sage]

oops

that has my discord in lmfao (deleted post)

[gentle sage]

ive had this scenario before and i always just wanna know whats goin through their head

funny feature

[wary needle]

based

[inland hatch]

yessss

quick dialing to get that done before the screen flashed up lol

nice

[north rapids]

i was also really confused on how to use hte phones