RenoDX: Wuthering Waves

[lament iron]

Qd-oled

[cosmic hearth]

GG，这下不知道是哪一步做错导致出错。。。

[cosmic hearth]

你这是vanilla吗？

GG， I don't know which step went wrong and caused the mistake...
Are you vanilla?

I want to compare, the wrong vanilla makes it inconvenient for me to adjust RenoDRT

[autumn jetty]

it's kinda impossible to fix the blowout with kurotonemapper on if you also want to use scene grading strength 100

this is with 0 strength It looks good imo

reshade HDR screenshot are not really working btw

or it's something with discord

[lament iron]

不是 我有使用reshade
2.4更新後就這樣了

[cosmic hearth]

我是使用vanilla才有这个问题，使用renoDRX而没有这个问题

你没有用RenoDRTma

吗

[autumn jetty]

yea it's discord not showing it in HDR

weird

[lament iron]

沒有耶 這是什麼呢

[autumn jetty]

please use english, even if it's auto translated

[cosmic hearth]

你用的是哪个？

[cosmic hearth]

The pictures you posted all show high dynamic range on my end

[autumn jetty]

not sure whats wrong with my discord then

[cosmic hearth]

Your picture looks great. I used your settings, but my game graphics are terrible. I don't know why

100

Uh, it seems to have succeeded. It's so beautiful

[autumn jetty]

I'm still testing, try this, but i'm using grading str 0 to preserve skin color

[autumn jetty]

it looks great, but that location uses a very heavy grading 😩

100 str looks great there but not that great at other locations

[cosmic hearth]

You're right

Used your latest settings

[autumn jetty]

nice 😄

now I just have to figure out how to recompile shaders for wuwa

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delete shader folder?

[autumn jetty]

but where?

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quickly send me a screnshot of client/saved

its afolder in there but i cant really remember which

[autumn jetty]

there is a PSO folder with the driver version etc

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its not that

or is it

can't remember exactly

but inside that folder

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PSO and PSOreport

delete those two folders and you're good

[autumn jetty]

okay

I guess it's somewhere in the app data but we can froce a recompile if we delete these folders

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its saved in there

[autumn jetty]

20Kb?

[frank heart]

not in appdata

🤷‍♂️

do you see inside a bunch of files

[autumn jetty]

nope

but it triggered a recompile so it's fine I think 😄

thanks

[frank heart]

aight

[autumn jetty]

septimont was laggin like crazy with all the shader compilation stutters

oh yea it's fixed

😄

anyways my conclusion is that using more than 50 grading str is not really recommended with kuro tonemapper on

the blowout is just too strong, and skin and highlight details turn pure white sometimes

it depends on the location/time of the day

grading str at 0 fixes most of the issues, but ofc it can "damage" the look/feel of the location

maybe we are better of with using SDR+Inverse tone mapping if we want to use kuro tonemapper

[cosmic hearth]

Look at your

[autumn jetty]

2.4 gamma preset to fix the UI
Game brightness 236 (BT.1886) = 203 (2.2 gamma) in this case

yea same

I will test it

I like this for now #1383049193186136216 message

the UI is really weird looking with 2.2 gamma unfortunately

on

I will go to the penitent’s end tacet field

2.2 vs 2.4

the ui is not affected by anything but gamma and game brightness

I prefer 2.4 and it pops more while fighting too

the hud is affected too

everything that is a UI element

[frank heart]

Use 2.4

Just for UI element

You can grade the rest

To compensate

[autumn jetty]

yea

and gamma

#1383049193186136216 message
#1383049193186136216 message

these two are the same

but with 2.2 vs 2.4 UI

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Yeah

At the end you arrive at your preference grade

[autumn jetty]

yea

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My grade hasnt changed much since release

#🖼️hdr-screenshots message

Its closely tuned for my screen though

On some non calibrated oleds the shadows look crushed 🙂

[autumn jetty]

it's nice

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couldn't take screenshots for this patch tho cuz i ran through the entire game to get all the lutbuilders for u guys 🙂

[autumn jetty]

but i don't want to use kuro off 😩

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They really need a

Cutscene story replay

[autumn jetty]

this is a good place to test too it does not change

the Whimpering Wastes portal location

the tacet field portal?

ah ok

it looks very different with grading str at 100

😄

this is with 0

the smoke... 😩

I don't think it's possible we are basically disabling the lut that changes the color

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^

Its not possible

Eh

[autumn jetty]

the hole is not desaturated on my end

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Thats what you would enable strength for

[autumn jetty]

even with 100

it turns from purple to pinkish

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thats the main thing

[autumn jetty]

the lut rises the contrast

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if you go 0 strength

[autumn jetty]

so yea it's brighter

[frank heart]

you're getting the wrong colors

fire becomes too orange

purple becomes a diff hue

im at my computer now

lets do some screenshots

[autumn jetty]

this is with 100 and kuro on

almost indigo

changli looks fine I think

I mean the oranges

yea it's just the highlight brightness that's different

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it'll deviate in other scenes and colors

[autumn jetty]

yea

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if you match for one scene and then go to another then it will unmatch again

trying to match strength 0 with kuro off vs kuro on str is

well

fruitless endavor

if you like the kr off color just accept it for what it is

[cosmic hearth]

HDR mode is not turned on

It's already so bright white

[frank heart]

bright but there's no detail 😅

[cosmic hearth]

I haven't made any changes, native settings

[frank heart]

yes but why

on my oled laptop i have to rais shadow by 5

cause its not as well calibrated as my tv

dark without crushing any shadow details

is what i'd go for

[autumn jetty]

it depends on a lot of things

in real life

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irl if the sun is bright and harsh you would also have trouble

seeing stuff

[autumn jetty]

it's fine if anime style games don't look realistic imo

hmmmm

both look fine imo

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might be a controversial opinion but i dont think people actually believe that

[autumn jetty]

that haze is fog so yea 55 might be better

[frank heart]

people generally like how light behaves irl

else RT wouldn't have made such a big difference in this game

[autumn jetty]

the character shading is not realistic, and shadows/GI dont really affect the models either. These characters would look weird in a very realistic looking world imo

[frank heart]

the character is mostly unaffected by the environment

but the environment itself

is still affected by RT

the art can be non realistic

but ppl generally like it as light behaves and reflect in the environment

more like in the real world

[autumn jetty]

well yea the "problem" with RT is that it's tryign to be realistic 😄

[frank heart]

else there wouldn't be any argument for using RTGI

[frank heart]

you can also do RT and not be realistic as well

i think many ppl float around the idea that RT will kill art expression because you have to make it more realistic but there's ways around it if you wanted to

[autumn jetty]

I don't like when characters look too out of place

[frank heart]

the characters in WW is almost always out of place for usability reason tho

they're actually excluded from a lot of calculations in the world

motion blur is excluded

if you enable motion blur

you will notice that

particles that the characters generate

will have motion blur

but not the char or their movements themselves

[autumn jetty]

the characters wouldn't look anime like otherwise

[frank heart]

nah it would still look like anime

with the cell shading

but it would blend too much into the environment

[autumn jetty]

yea ok cell shading

[frank heart]

so you can't actually see shit

it's for gameplay reasons and its probably a good choice imo

although i would have liked motion blur beign done

[autumn jetty]

ah yea the highlights are a lot more desaturated and probably correct looking with the new preset

[frank heart]

jianxin is one of the chars where you can see the disconnect

her moves would lend very well to per object motion blur

but only her BALLS have motion blur

and not jianxin herself

[autumn jetty]

don't mention her, I lost my 50/50 to Jianxin😩

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the edge lighting in the tree branches

[cosmic hearth]

Very good-looking

[autumn jetty]

that turns pure white with kuro on and 100 grade str

😩

the edge lighting

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lorelei

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thats why i dont like it

[autumn jetty]

hmm I don't xD

it's too pinkish

[frank heart]

you can see how even when graded to look mostly the same

you lose detail as the highlights turn white way too early

in str 100

[autumn jetty]

with kuro off

[frank heart]

yeah

i feel like you have the higlight slider

way too bright for this

[autumn jetty]

it's semms to impossible to replicate the SDR look and colors with Unreal Reno

we need Wuwa Reno

not the Unreal One

or the Unreal one with developer options enabled like hue controll

[frank heart]

you can use

the unreal grading commands...?

[autumn jetty]

hmm

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#1383049193186136216 message

plus a couple of other commands

usually starts with r.color

[autumn jetty]

I think this turns all fire pink but you can test it with septimont torches

[frank heart]

you'll be grading this with the intention of using strength though

because the color commands only affect the lut

so with strength 0 these commands are useless

[autumn jetty]

the contrast is too high if the character is lit by direct sunlight imo

[autumn jetty]

ah right

oh I forgot XD

[frank heart]

i think its the case with how too bright those fires are

[autumn jetty]

this looks so wrong 😄

[frank heart]

yeah

completely diff than the stock fire

but bc the stock fire is sdr so it turns too white

[autumn jetty]

ofc it's an example what wrong fire looks like

and new patch

[frank heart]

nah

it just takes a while to get used to

cuz ur too used to OG look

compared to real life I think it looks aight

[autumn jetty]

I mean yea, but it's wrong on many levels 😄

universal one color pink/red fire

[frank heart]

wdym

its a gradient

[autumn jetty]

ok but fire does not look like that

[cosmic hearth]

I carefully compared all of your settings and found that they look great when not exposed to sunlight.

[autumn jetty]

it's the same issue what we had in starfield until ShortFuse figured out how to fix it

[cosmic hearth]

Only when exposed to sunlight, the contrast is still too bright white, which is not attractive

ON

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wdym it does

[cosmic hearth]

In SDR mode, characters appear bright white under sunlight, which is not attractive
We may not be able to make the character look natural in HDR mode

[frank heart]

xD

[autumn jetty]

#1383049193186136216 message like this???

[cosmic hearth]

role

Love you all
I'm leaving. I'm going out to eat

[autumn jetty]

this is a little desaturated but better represents fire imo

[frank heart]

that's because you have too bright highlight

i can also do that by raising the highlight

[autumn jetty]

too high? me?

wino would argue 😄

[frank heart]

lol

wait

is this with kuro on

[autumn jetty]

ofc

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ah yeah then its bc of ur blowout

so it turns white earlier

[autumn jetty]

str is 0

but yea

which is correct

which one?

I mean settings

[frank heart]

nah

also bc

changli's fire hue

is actually a different hue

compared to actual fire

with too much blowout you dont notice the diff in hue

her fire is a different hue

you can stand next to the torch at nimbus and look

pic above

lol

with stock it looks the same

too white

now u can appreciate the diff

[autumn jetty]

#sf-luma-development message this was a simmilar issue btw

those fire particles were deep orange

it's more extreme

very desaturated looking fire, but it could be the lut

[frank heart]

i dont think this is actually usable once you're playing

^

the particles would look too bright

actually too distracting

I had to turn it down bc of that

especially with carlotta's as well

[autumn jetty]

the septimont fire is also very different

[frank heart]

yeah bro its actually a different hue

the fires look correct

[autumn jetty]

i love the music here at night it's sooo relaxing

lol

changli's attack animation colors

it's a feather lol 😄

yea

I will switch to kuro tonemapping off in a sec

[frank heart]

you're gonna turn that down

real quick

once you're in fights

also

btw if you want to change the fire hue

just use hue shift

it's designed for that purpose after all

yeah my fire is the correct color

™️

[autumn jetty]

this is with your settings kuro off

[autumn jetty]

but you hate blowout, that fire looks cold 😄

[frank heart]

that fire looks like tons of details for me

actual blowout would be like

[autumn jetty]

with no bright spots?

the hottest part is near white in real life too

[frank heart]

nah its still bright

blowout yuck 😭

[autumn jetty]

well that's undersaturated

and too much blowout lol

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yeah str 100 with no kuro

[autumn jetty]

well it looks filmic for sure 😄

different location?

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use the exact fire

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in the same septimont loation

[autumn jetty]

there is this huge red moon thing too

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different fires

have different hues

[nocturne lava]

Your monitor tech wouldn't cause software issues like this

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you can stand on one light

and its a diff hue

and diff light

is diff hue

10 steps apart

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imma shill for my settings

[autumn jetty]

it's supposed to be light pink I think

[frank heart]

and tell u to use mine

😅

[autumn jetty]

that's wino's settings tho

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yeah i mean use mine and take another ss

[autumn jetty]

i don't think that I can bring back the red moon sec XD

hmm I can

ok

which preset tho?

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17:00 and you have to wait a bit

i think

[autumn jetty]

it's early in the morning

[autumn jetty]

7-8

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oh another one at 17 -> 18 at sunset

[autumn jetty]

2.4 gamma?

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yeah 2.4

[autumn jetty]

i don't like either of them haha

[frank heart]

if you want to shift mine to more orange ish

then move hue shift to 100

0 is more red

but too wrong for me

i have it at 50

but the sunrise one

is actually supposed to be that shade

if you check the sunset one

then it's the more typical sunset orange hue

sunrise one is 7 -> 8

more red

sunset one is 17 -> 18

more orange

he posted both sunrise one

this is sunset

[autumn jetty]

this looks better I think

[autumn jetty]

adjusted spiwar preset

[frank heart]

what did you change

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ah more blowout

[autumn jetty]

ofc

i don't like my fire cold

😄

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eks dee

all good

I actually use shadows 50 on my tv

shadows 55 is for my laptop

[autumn jetty]

I'm switching back to kuro on

[frank heart]

kuro on is missing like 3 shaders

also 1 shader for fleurdelys which is common between kuro on and kuro off

dont know when it will be fixed

but oh well

[autumn jetty]

your preset is very bright in sunlight

[autumn jetty]

😩

spiwars

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as it should be

[autumn jetty]

but I guess different panels

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give me blindness

[autumn jetty]

nah it looks very weird

too much contrast and brightness

at least to my eyes

spiwar's preset

discord is not displaying these png images correctly at all

[frank heart]

hmm looks fine to me

[autumn jetty]

for me

not sure why

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wait

what is your game brightness

[autumn jetty]

203 but peak is 790-800

[frank heart]

yeah that explains it

i use this on my C2 in a dark room

[autumn jetty]

and it's not crushing blacks into oblivion?

I mean the contrast is sooo high

the auto exposure would send the game into the shadow realm

[frank heart]

tuned that in huanglong

yeah no crushing for me

its right on the edge

[autumn jetty]

that explains it

[frank heart]

also are you playing it

with RT on or off

[autumn jetty]

on

[frank heart]

its slightly exaggerated

[autumn jetty]

i had to disable RT shadows for septimont tho

[frank heart]

if you have RT on low preset

because not enough bounce lighting

[autumn jetty]

I use high

anything lower than high causes weird reflection fizzle

[frank heart]

if you wanna deal with fizzle

and have the GPU headrom

... just enable ray reconstruction?

[autumn jetty]

no

lol

[frank heart]

why not

[autumn jetty]

why? when high preset fixes it

RR is more demanding than the high preset

[frank heart]

how much perf

is the high preset

hitting again

[autumn jetty]

about 15-20% maybe

[frank heart]

RR is also about that amount

but it scales on your res

4K DLSS ultra quality (1.3 scale) its about 30% for me

4K DLSS perf its the same as high

20% ish

but the reflection is basically butter smooth

[autumn jetty]

and I don't really want to use transformer preset in this game either

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the RR that hits 20% is CNN

i havent even tried transformer RR

[autumn jetty]

it's somehow even more demanding in this game than in other UE titles

I mean transformer model dlss

it causes weird animation artifacts and the performance cost is huge

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Your current res divided by 1.3

[autumn jetty]

~76%

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DLSS4 as more disocclusion artifacts compared to CNN

It doesnt bother me but it does for other ppl

[autumn jetty]

yea actualy very visible if you watch idle animations

if we want correct colors then we have to use inverse tonemapping which we don't want so we have to settle for less, and yea 0 str grading is a good compromise

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the in-game ultra quality setting

yes

i know

its broken by default

optiscaler automatically fixes it

you dont need to do anything

just have optiscaler enabled

[autumn jetty]

or just use nvidia inspector to force it

no need to use optiscaler

[frank heart]

you'd want to use opti anyways

[autumn jetty]

why?

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opti's RCAS + MAS sharpen

is peak

[autumn jetty]

nah I don't want even more sharpness

I would just use HDR RCAS

[frank heart]

MAS gives you more sharpness in motion

[autumn jetty]

tho

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HDR RCAS is broken compared to opti's RCAS

if you have option to use opti's its highly preferrable

as

it also replaces whatever your upscaling sharpening is

so if you're using NVIDIA

[autumn jetty]

it was okay when I used it the last time like 2 years ago xD

[frank heart]

it replaces their crap sharpening pass

with RCAS

[autumn jetty]

I will give it a try but I really hate when the game look artificially sharpened

[frank heart]

combining with MAS is the real play here

[autumn jetty]

i can tolerate blur but I can't tolerate sharpening artifacts

[frank heart]

it's very flexible in tuning

so tune it to preference

[autumn jetty]

I will give it a try

[frank heart]

RCAS tuning for static shots

MAS tuning for in motion

[autumn jetty]

why do we want sharpening in motion?

[frank heart]

cause the TAA upscale methods usually loose sharpness in motion which you can get back

i didn't really understand how it would help either

but after using

[autumn jetty]

I'm surprised that you use RCAS with transformer prese btw

[frank heart]

i am enlightened

[autumn jetty]

yea, I know, but sharpening in motion sounds like anti motion blur

[frank heart]

this game doesnt have real motion blur anyways

cause it doens't apply on characters

😭

[autumn jetty]

I usually turn on motion blur if it's good but yea I just disabled it in this game

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RCAS in opti is so flexible you can tune it so it becomes actually broken

xddd

[visual sand]

Okay why can't I see any changes when I see the Custom Color Grading slider

[frank heart]

looks good to me too bro

[visual sand]

Is this like a new tool?

[autumn jetty]

it's not that new

[visual sand]

By new I mean like something different

[autumn jetty]

@frank heart which dll do you use to hook opti?

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special K

[visual sand]

I didn't change anything

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did you enable renoDRT

oh wait

[visual sand]

So it might have to do with something with this new update

[frank heart]

better yet

did you... read the FAQ?

[visual sand]

It worked before this update

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did you update your renodx...?

[visual sand]

How do you update that?

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the fuck

how did you get renodx in the first place then

global filter doesn't prevent the custom grading sliders from working, it just clamps all of your output

[visual sand]

Aye thanks

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i kinda still dont get

how you can get the mod installed

but you dont know where to update it

😅

[visual sand]

I'm gonna be honest IDR

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@autumn jetty i might move contrast back to 60

I like areas being dark but its a bit too dark in septi for me

but not sure

need to confirm on my tv

cuz my laptop likes to crush things

great area though

I dont like pillarboxing

When im watching 16:9 contrnt

[autumn jetty]

yea I like 21:9 but I dont mind 16:9 in wuwa

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On 21:9

[autumn jetty]

recommended optiscaler settings spiwar?

I hooked it with SK too

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If u want frame gen you could try nukem fsr3fg

That works with renodx

[autumn jetty]

I don't

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Well it leaves only the RCAS then

[autumn jetty]

I just want to test the sharpening 😄

[frank heart]

Since you dont want much sharpening

Maybe RCAS on

Contrast enabled at 0.5

And then the slider on the top right

Is the actual amount

U wanna change

[autumn jetty]

and MAS?

[frank heart]

After ur done with the rcas u can enable mas

And then start to move ur camera around

U can test if its working

By using a stupidly high amount

Cuz ur game will look too sharp when u move

oh wait

the MAS debug works too

whatever's set as red is the one being sharpened

in debug view

[autumn jetty]

yea it works lol

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yeah walking straight only the ground gets sharpened as that has enough motion

it even works negatively if you want softer/less sharpness in motion lul

[autumn jetty]

hmm

idk whats a good value

it's either so subtle I can't notice it or bugged

I mean when its too high

[frank heart]

u can also just not use it

and use RCAS

it replaces the upscaler's sharpening pass btw

so you can actually use the in-game slider

to control sharpening

[autumn jetty]

oh nice

yea it's sharp enough in motion I think

RCAS is not bad actually

I lowered DLSS quality to performance

and it looks decent with RCAS

why do you use SK btw?

optiscaler can limit FPS

[frank heart]

optiscaler can use relfex limiter yeah

but SK limiter is best imo

SK does too much for me that I use it every game

best limiter imo
auto limit 15fps when i alt tab into something else
replaces ingame reflex

DLSS replacement, FG, RR check

[autumn jetty]

I used to use SK for everything but the newer updates are not so great

I'm still on a version that's almost 2 months old now

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issues with your games?

I think i've been on auto update

fine all this time

[autumn jetty]

crashing/input device problems plugin problems

[visual sand]

Okay I'm getting this when trying to load the new mod

[autumn jetty]

reno weirdness

[visual sand]

Sorry if I'm being an idiot about this

[autumn jetty]

25.5.9.1 is working fine

[frank heart]

man

upgrade your reshade man

if reno could get RCAS on all the mods

would be kinda goated

since you wont need opti for the sharpening to work without affecting UI

[visual sand]

Okay everything's working again

Thanks guys

Sorry this is my first time working with this kidna stuff

[frank heart]

hmm okay this update might actually have changed something

my shorekeper particles

did not look this saturated

last time i played her

[autumn jetty]

can OBS record HDR10 gameplay?

[frank heart]

its how i've been recording all my clips

[autumn jetty]

can you share your settings ? 😄

[frank heart]

ur welcome

yeah this might need some tweaking

sk particles look too blue

[autumn jetty]

i'm actualyl happy with the kuro tonammping on results

which encoder do you use?

HEVC I guess

[visual sand]

Okay I'm getting flickering while in Septimont

Is that a known issue?

[subtle warren]

@frank heart does rcas have grain when sharpening ?

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if you want to be able to quickly upload here

[visual sand]

Frame Gen is off

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use af x16

in special k...

[subtle warren]

@frank heart does Spécial K have rcas?

[frank heart]

no.

[subtle warren]

You need opti for that?

@frank heart any way to apply rcas without opti?

[lament iron]

this is mine

[frank heart]

use the reshade hdr rcas filter...

[subtle warren]

Do you mind to tell me how if you're not busy?

@frank heart

[lament iron]

How do you configure the RenoDX settings file? I'm using a QD-OLED monitor.

[frank heart]

download the hdr rcas filter

put it in your shader folder

???

profit

[lament iron]

what is kurotonemapping ?

[subtle warren]

Where is the shader folder?

[lament iron]

What effect does it have?

[frank heart]

read the FAQ

ok should be my finals for a long whiel

look at all of those even numbers

[nocturne lava]

I've struggled with balancing things like this lol

It seems easy to kick Shorekeeper's effects into neon cyan land

[frank heart]

blowout restore cut it to half did it for me

maybe i should do 30 so every number is even

https://tenor.com/view/ocd-monk-tony-shalhoub-shalhoub-tony-gif-6117572

but then its not exactly 1/4th

[lament iron]

do you have kurotonemapping off??

[frank heart]

yes

i'll settle with 30

Final settings (kurotonemapping off)

since I have a 60 somewhere else

and 60 is nicely divded with 30

🤣

[autumn jetty]

I absolutely hate SK sometimes

why is the game in always on top mode

I cant alttab to anything

[frank heart]

prevent always yeah

[autumn jetty]

hm where is that option?

[frank heart]

SK added that

[autumn jetty]

ahh yea thanks

[frank heart]

so for games that force always on top

you can override

[autumn jetty]

but the game was not always on top without SK

xD

[frank heart]

you can tweak global defaults btw

so it will apply prevent always on top

for every first time you inject sk

[lament iron]

witch one is better?!

[frank heart]

2nd one he disable kurotonemapping

that looks like kuro disable strength 100

@autumn jetty worth tweaking this if you have settins you always change

[subtle warren]

@frank heart where is reshade shader folder located when having SK?

[lament iron]

i cant find Engine.ini...

[lament iron]

this one?

[peak geyser]

Yes

[subtle warren]

Thanks guys

[lament iron]

add it like this?

thanks

Does anyone know why, when I'm gliding and press the right mouse button to accelerate, the sky becomes overexposed?
And when I release the right button, it returns to normal?

LIKE THIS

[peak geyser]

I think we have another one boyz

[frank heart]

oh

lmao

ANOTHER ONE

[lament iron]

I’m doomed, I don’t understand this at all haha.

[subtle warren]

I don't have the textures and shaders folder, that's the problem

Or I have to put them in there manually?

[frank heart]

someone pin this

[lament iron]

This one?!

[frank heart]

If you're having overexposure, clamping, or clipping issues when doing certain actions/ skills, set your renoDX settings to this.

[peak geyser]

Pin this?

[frank heart]

although

@hard cedar Was your commit that does the typeless upgrade automatically done?

[subtle warren]

Is your reshade Lazy? @peak geyser

[frank heart]

it should be merged rn

[lament iron]

I set it up like this, but it still gets overexposed

[peak geyser]

Mine isn't. Should it be?

[lament iron]

Oh

[subtle warren]

Idk, cause I don't have the texture and shaders folder, but only add ons

[peak geyser]

I think I took them from another game's install. But that's at least where they would go

[lament iron]

I did it! Thank you all for your help!

[subtle warren]

Yes it's all done

Reshade was already there

Maybe

Not sure

[peak geyser]

You can either open the Reshade installer and take the shaders you want, OR install the shaders you want to another game and copy the files to where I showed you for SK

[subtle warren]

So create the folders manually?

[peak geyser]

You can

[hard cedar]

@frank heart nope, waiting for @astral night to merge

https://github.com/clshortfuse/renodx/pull/281

[subtle warren]

Reshade menu appears @tough ember

Everything works

Even renodx would work

But somehow reshade didn't have those folders lol

[astral night]

marat doesn't know how to pr well yet

[hard cedar]

whats wrong with these?

srs question lol

did you want all 3 of those as seperate commits?

[astral night]

there's only one commit

[hard cedar]

one commit for stellar blade changes, another for wuwa, another for added lutbuilder

[astral night]

feat(unrealengine): Add Marvel Rival's lutbuilder

[hard cedar]

yea I accidewntly pressed enter, didnt finish my question

[peak geyser]

Surprised Marvel didn't already work. lol

[hard cedar]

I was asking if you'd prefer if I had 3 seperate ones

[cosmic hearth]

我回来了，兄弟们

[astral night]

well, yeah, it doesn't line up

[cosmic hearth]

我看完你们的对话

[hard cedar]

alright, future commits will all be seperate based on whats changed

I added notes, thought that would be enough

[subtle warren]

Ah

[cosmic hearth]

所以这就是为什么我坚持要没有错误的原版来让我对比DenroDRT用于比较

你们有太多的不同的要求

[peak geyser]

I agree

[hard cedar]

I really dont want to remake this one though, so can you just let it through

[cosmic hearth]

I have finished watching your conversation
That's why I insist on using error free vanilla for comparison and debugging renoDRT reference

[hard cedar]

thank you

[cosmic hearth]

Using Kuro's requirements as a standard would facilitate our adjustment of renoDRT

[hard cedar]

@frank heart an hour from now when UE finishes compiling, it will have the RGB8 changes

[cosmic hearth]

Our current problem is that we have the wrong vanilla

[hard cedar]

vanilla in the context of renodrt means

no custom code

[cosmic hearth]

No one told us how to solve it, we don't know where we went wrong\

[hard cedar]

so its similar to just launching the game with no mods

[cosmic hearth]

Wait a moment, I'll send you a picture, you'll understand after reading it

[hard cedar]

@peak geyser somebody found a new shader in a different area

[hard cedar]

I dont know anything about the game, I just fixed a few lutbuilders

[frank heart]

ah

he's saying that he's getting

false colors

vanilla is not being clipped properly

so its coming out with red pixel

iirc

[cosmic hearth]

Wrong vanilla, we don't know what caused this problem

[hard cedar]

because vanilla doesnt run any of the code that would normally handle those

so vanilla is just vanilla shaders + resource upgrades

kind of like SK with remasters

[frank heart]

yea, although i remember shortfuse already fixing this a while back

let me find msg from few months ago

[cosmic hearth]

Currently, two people have reported this issue incorrectly, while the others have no problem.
But we don't know where we went wrong or what caused this problem
This is very sad

[frank heart]

lol

its vanilla bro

[hard cedar]

honestly, vanilla doesnt matter

its only really used for comparison screenshots

[cosmic hearth]

I have tried clean games, switching between any C or D drive, and clean Reshade.
It's useless, there are still errors in vanilla
This makes me very desperate, I don't know why

[astral night]

needs saturate at the end of the lutbuilder. game relies on broken code being fixed by 8bit clamp

[frank heart]

#1321685184852135967 message

[frank heart]

why u desparate about using vanilla 😭

[astral night]

@hard cedar you need to add o0 = saturate(o0); at the end of sm5 shaders

[hard cedar]

only for if vanilla obv

[hard cedar]

all of them or just wuwa

[cosmic hearth]

Because we need the correct vanilla to adjust renoDRT

[hard cedar]

honestly wouldnt hurt all of them

[astral night]

honestly should be all. even crisiscore needed it and that's stock UE4

[hard cedar]

alright I'll get to it

its going to be wrapped in an if tonemaptype 0, so it wont grief actual HDR

I dont think he understands vanilla is off/sdr

[cosmic hearth]

Believe me, the adjustments you just made to RenoDRT were for relative naturalness, better contrast, highlights, and details.
You feel confused about this now, but you're okay
But we can't. We lack your happiness

[astral night]

what?

no

do what i said

[cosmic hearth]

You have the correct vanilla, which allows you to adjust renoDRT for comparison

Of course, the most important thing is that we want to get something error free

[astral night]

@hard cedar it's all these shaders. i had added saturate to shaders before but new ones came in without it

eh, i can do it in a batch i'm sure

[cosmic hearth]

Wrong things make us tangled up

[hard cedar]

I just opened all files

if (RENODX_TONE_MAP_TYPE == 0.f) {
o0 = saturate(o0);
}

[astral night]

no

again no

[hard cedar]

ohh it doesnt matter you're right

just saturate

renodx returns early

[cosmic hearth]

You can chat happily and adjust
And we can't, we can only watch you chat and adjust.
We can only be helpless

[frank heart]

that's a bit uh dramatic

[astral night]

assume translation errors

[cosmic hearth]

In this post, your conversation is like this, you are happy

isn't it?

Poor English proficiency

[hard cedar]

sorry the chat scrolled up fast and I missed it

[cosmic hearth]

I think the level of translation is not correct, but I don't know

😂

[astral night]

@hard cedar i got it, i think, but didn't manually check everything

[frank heart]

btw, shortfuse can u take a look at these #1321685184852135967 message

i dont think there's any other shader i can find that isn't covered by the typeless upgrade so that should be it

[hard cedar]

I was half way done

just saturating before return

I can check it all if you can do a PR

looks good; let me go through all the shaders

to make sure all of them got it

[astral night]

i don't know what's going on in the abzu shader

[hard cedar]

yea

adrian said

that was needed

for invalid colors long ago

wouldnt saturate just do that

let me find dm historyh

lets move to #🧩renodx-dev

chat moves too fast here

[cosmic hearth]

At this point, we are heartbroken that we don't understand which step went wrong, which is terrible

I used to think it was caused by a different monitor, but someone said it was an OLED monitor that also had this error issue

[hard cedar]

you didnt break anything, latest version will have a working vanilla

[cosmic hearth]

Thank you.

[split onyx]

yea that game needed a saturate basically for the vanilla path

otherwise there were ton of artifacts

[astral night]

what i mean is the code structure. looks very different than the rest

must be really old UE i guess

[split onyx]

ah, yea thats early UE, I think a couple look like that

[visual sand]

So we can't use this with Global Filters yeah?

[split onyx]

we're also in the wuthering waves chat, not the UE one lol

almost missed your message

[frank heart]

No

[visual sand]

Aye

[frank heart]

Dont touch or misfortune will come

[visual sand]

I can change the brightness settings tho right?

[frank heart]

Yea

[hard cedar]

@frank heart @cosmic hearth

this clamps vanilla; so you wont get weird colors in vanilla

[hard cedar]

@split onyx

[cosmic hearth]

It succeeded, there were no errors in vanilla

[hard cedar]

[frank heart]

[hard cedar]

but dont use vanilla

[cosmic hearth]

We no longer have to just watch you chat

[astral night]

anybody want to test some speed boosts?

[cosmic hearth]

Thank you very much, thank you all, you are gods

[frank heart]

Damn wasnt the overhead already pretty low?

[astral night]

https://tenor.com/view/more-kylo-ren-adam-driver-screaming-star-wars-gif-17734637

[autumn jetty]

I cant get hdr capture to wornk on youtube

😩

[hard cedar]

ask jdsp

[frank heart]

U trying tos tream

Hdr

Or upload hdr

[autumn jetty]

upload

[astral night]

2fast

[cosmic hearth]

After comparison and repair, the characters in RenoDRT mode are similar to those in vanilla mode, without appearing as white as dead people

[frank heart]

boost in gpu limited scenario right

Let me get some baseline

[hard cedar]

please dont use SK or other mods

and if you want to be a gigachad

get capframex

and get some proper recordings

[cosmic hearth]

Brothers, you can try adjusting RenoDRT, its mode doesn't make the character appear as white as a dead person

[astral night]

cpu really

[cosmic hearth]

I can only say that the current version is correct, at least it looks very good to me, it doesn't seem so strange

[hard cedar]

record 10 seconds in the same area, same "stuff" with no reshade/no unreal mod

record 10 seconds in the same area with reshade + older unreal mod (the one I shared with the clamp)

record 10 seconds in the same area with shortfuse's fast mod

make sure its something that doesnt have a lot of dynamic shit going on, so each run is similar

[cosmic hearth]

Brother, you closed it.

[frank heart]

best i can do is all vanilla and RTSS

[cosmic hearth]

r.KuroTonemapping=0

[frank heart]

😅

[cosmic hearth]

I have activated it here, and it looks very natural to me like vanilla
role

I think you can try adjusting it now

[autumn jetty]

I think wuwa turned off KuroTonemapping for the first time, and they like it 😄

[cosmic hearth]

OKOK， Understood, we just like the natural color of the characters and don't like the white of the dead

I haven't made any changes. In the previous version, it looked like a dead white
After this repair, it looks natural, which is great. I like it

This is renoDRT

Wuwuwu, thank you all. Your repairs make me happy

[astral night]

for comparison

[cosmic hearth]

我们想要的就是RenoDRT模式下的角色有vanilla的自然

What we want is for the character in RenoDRT mode to have the natural charm of vanilla

In the previous version, it couldn't do it, RenoDRT， It looks like the white of a dead person

[peak geyser]

What's your settings?

[cosmic hearth]

看，我没有减少数值，提高了数值，都能让角色有自然色

Look, I didn't decrease the value, I increased the value, which can give the character a natural color

[peak geyser]

You'll probably get issues with Highlight Saturation that high. But if you see something weird you can play with it later.

[cosmic hearth]

I think this repair is correct

OK

ok

[subtle warren]

So is renodx hdr all fixed? Or it's not 100% complete?

[cosmic hearth]

？

Wait a moment, I'll make some changes

[frank heart]

you can play but just missing 4 shaders

[cosmic hearth]

Am I right?

[visual sand]

How do I know if I'm doing this right?

[frank heart]

it looks good

[cosmic hearth]

The previous version has been fixed, and you can now have vanilla without any errors, which allows you to compare and adjust renoDRT accordingly

[visual sand]

Mine currently looks like this

[frank heart]

what the fuck

[visual sand]

I have no idea what I'm doing that's why I'm asking

[cosmic hearth]

It depends on your preferences
My preference is to give the character a natural feel while increasing highlights, contrast, and details

[hard cedar]

you dont usually want sdr grading bypass

[frank heart]

^

[hard cedar]

unless you absolutely know what you're doing

or touching the grading strength slider

thats fine

[cosmic hearth]

No, I didn't close it

Once again, thank you and love you all

I can have a pleasant chat with you now and adjust together

[visual sand]

Same here

This is my first time using an HDR monitor so I've never done stuff like this before

[cosmic hearth]

That depends on your preferences

[frank heart]

@hard cedar RTSS benchmark is probably fine right

[cosmic hearth]

Our needs should be to have highlights, contrast, and details

[frank heart]

just using that instead of capframe cuz 2 lazy

[hard cedar]

probably

capframex would be a better one

since it makes a graph

[visual sand]

This is with SDR Bypass only

[cosmic hearth]

You can try my settings using your RenoDRT

[visual sand]

Where are your settings?

[cosmic hearth]

Wait a minute, I want to try out Spiwa's settings. I really like him, he's amazing

Without turning off KuroTone mapping, the character appears dead white

[frank heart]

@astral night @hard cedar maybe im doing something wrong

                     Average framerate  :   82.3 FPS
                     Minimum framerate  :   75.4 FPS
                     Maximum framerate  :   86.2 FPS
                     1% low framerate   :   52.6 FPS
                     0.1% low framerate :   43.3 FPS
15-06-2025, 01:16:20 Client-Win64-Shipping.exe benchmark completed, 1105 frames rendered in 11.438 s
                     Average framerate  :   96.6 FPS
                     Minimum framerate  :   91.8 FPS
                     Maximum framerate  :   99.6 FPS
                     1% low framerate   :   51.6 FPS
                     0.1% low framerate :   38.2 FPS
15-06-2025, 01:19:56 Client-Win64-Shipping.exe benchmark completed, 928 frames rendered in 11.390 s
                     Average framerate  :   81.4 FPS
                     Minimum framerate  :   76.6 FPS
                     Maximum framerate  :   83.5 FPS
                     1% low framerate   :   69.4 FPS
                     0.1% low framerate :   66.4 FPS```

from top to bottom: current, vanilla, new UE addon

[hard cedar]

vanilla is no reshade, no addon right

[autumn jetty]

I was testing kuro tonemapper off and 100 grading strength with 70-75 blowout restoration is actually not bad

[hard cedar]

if a game has no benchmark tool; its pretty hard to get a consistant recording

[visual sand]

Okay I tried with spiwar's settings

[hard cedar]

because if you're just running down a road

[frank heart]

nothing

[cosmic hearth]

Did you use the repaired item

[hard cedar]

the pathing npcs might do something different; something else might load in; etc

[frank heart]

i'm standing still at the exact time of day

[hard cedar]

if the perf difference is big; like vanilla vs. reno -- it will show up

but when you're testing micro optimizations; it might grief

[frank heart]

15-06-2025, 01:19:56 Client-Win64-Shipping.exe benchmark completed, 928 frames rendered in 11.390 s
Average framerate : 81.4 FPS
Minimum framerate : 76.6 FPS
Maximum framerate : 83.5 FPS
1% low framerate : 69.4 FPS
0.1% low framerate : 66.4 FPS
15-06-2025, 01:22:39 Client-Win64-Shipping.exe benchmark completed, 919 frames rendered in 11.281 s
Average framerate : 81.4 FPS
Minimum framerate : 77.9 FPS
Maximum framerate : 83.8 FPS
1% low framerate : 68.0 FPS
0.1% low framerate : 60.2 FPS

[autumn jetty]

repaired item?

[frank heart]

i just did another run

both are new UE addon

same average frame rate

😭

but it's both worse than vanilla

[hard cedar]

ofc, dx12 upgrades

[cosmic hearth]

#1383049193186136216 message

[astral night]

no hdr either

[frank heart]

true

[autumn jetty]

nope, but it's not really required if you don't use vanilla

[frank heart]

but at least i know ii can make it consistent

[autumn jetty]

i was testing with these settings if you wanna try it

[astral night]

it's supposed to be more CPU based if anything

[frank heart]

im sitting at 65% usage rn

so i think im pretty cpu limited

[cosmic hearth]

It can be tested in Laguna City, which has the highest scene pressure. Previously, in version 2.3, I had a performance of 15 frames per second without using Reshade and with RenoDRT

可以在拉古那城测试，它场景压力最大，之前我在2.3版本，不使用reshade和使用RenoDRT足有15帧数性能

[frank heart]

ignore the 0c its just reinstalled drivers

[cosmic hearth]

No, you don't have the wrong vanilla, you don't know it...

I can only say that it gave me a great RenoDRT

[frank heart]

i'm generating frames while using 0.0w too

i've got a heavier area i can probably test

[cosmic hearth]

Using RenoDRT, maintain a stable frame rate of 72~70 frames per second
Do not use RenoDRT, use Reshade, stable at 80-78 frames per second

I am testing here

[astral night]

not really. just needs testing before i merge it. has no threads locks. should be faster in theory

[frank heart]

feels like its within margin of error
old, new

15-06-2025, 01:30:55 Client-Win64-Shipping.exe benchmark completed, 674 frames rendered in 10.218 s
Average framerate : 65.9 FPS
Minimum framerate : 59.2 FPS
Maximum framerate : 68.6 FPS
1% low framerate : 51.4 FPS
0.1% low framerate : 32.3 FPS
15-06-2025, 01:33:46 Client-Win64-Shipping.exe benchmark completed, 694 frames rendered in 10.843 s
Average framerate : 64.0 FPS
Minimum framerate : 60.9 FPS
Maximum framerate : 66.9 FPS
1% low framerate : 49.7 FPS
0.1% low framerate : 31.5 FPS

im def cpu limited cuz my 5800x is hitting 105W out of the 110W ppt I let it 🤣

[hard cedar]

5 fps isnt margin of error

[frank heart]

i mean between current addon ver and previous addon ver