Tamaki Amajiki

[brittle saddle]

Despite that, I still feel like playing him has been pretty fun, and it feels very satisfying to win with him

And he's been an absolute joy to play

Sry for the delay in messages

[vale mica]

I get that, but I should have to use tuning to keep up. Wallrunner could be acceleration instead, but we’d be forced to give that up for wallrunner. See the problem?

[boreal knoll]

I don’t. Acceleration isn’t really that good on him

It doesn’t unlock anything special for him

I would run Wall Runner over it personally. I can’t deny the 20% movement and action speed is nice and Acceleration is never a terrible option on him

He just has a better option

[vale mica]

The grab thing is a good idea, beta should be made into a more movement focused move at least to me, i disagree with the gamma, yeah you can roll but only on the ground, if it were able to be done above ground then yeah no need for damage resistance

And tbh vertical mobility is not the same as mobility

It’s specific

I can ONLY go up, Thats predictable

With a better beta tbat wouldnt be the case

But we have tracking so we can’t use it

It would send you back to the enemy

Thats my problem with beta

[boreal knoll]

The thing with gamma is you’re supposed to use it somewhere safe. The reason Young All For One and Star and Stripe get damage resistance and armor is because they HAVE to be out in the open to use their gammas effectively

They’d get melted otherwise

[boreal knoll]

Yeah the tracking is dumb on beta I agree. I also think it needs a damage nerf and in exchange unaimed alpha gets a damage increase

[vale mica]

But they can move, we can’t.
By that logic than Tamaki has one less skill then everyone else, he has no long range capabilities besides the gamma, it needs to be better bc alpha aint cutting it

Or just rework him altogether. All Justice has his one form that could absolutely change how hed work and make him an actual strike

All’s Justice*

[boreal knoll]

I sure don’t want to fight a Tamaki laser that can move

I think his gamma is fine. It’s a long range, wall piercing disruption tool

[vale mica]

We need a long range attack, a projectile preferably.

[boreal knoll]

It does its job well with good positioning

Which you should be having on him anyway since he loves good positioning

[vale mica]

I agree, but I’d rather have something else lol

[boreal knoll]

He’s a close ranged combo character I don’t think he should have a projectile. He should have a better unaimed alpha to poke with but that’s it in my opinion

[vale mica]

Nejire’s are practically a counter if they are far enough, and with the new one they can just spam alpha and you can’t do anything to stop her but waste your special and two betas just to be able to get close enough to hit her

[vale mica]

The meta is full of movement, a lot of flying too. We can’t reach that

[boreal knoll]

To be fair that’s just Support Nejire being broken in general

[vale mica]

Just an example

Yafo works too

[boreal knoll]

Which is why I agree with beta getting inertia so he CAN catch up to them

[vale mica]

But you can grab them out of gamma so it’s mot to bad

[vale mica]

Ik tamaki is reactionary but I can’t react to them by the time they’re gone 😭
Movement is insane rn

[boreal knoll]

Tamaki’s movement is pretty lackluster to today’s standards so I do think beta inertia will be a good change

[boreal knoll]

Yeahhhh…

[vale mica]

Look at lady Nagant

She’s a strike

But she’s so much better than we are in general

[hearty cargo]

lady nagant is a rapid strike

[boreal knoll]

Lady Nagant is stupid she needs way less movement

[vale mica]

On paper*

[boreal knoll]

Literally

[hearty cargo]

take away her second gamma and she'll still be fine imo

[vale mica]

Also star and stripes is strong asf too, or even strike shiggy, I’d say he has better movement than Tamaki

Shinso has three betas too

And that can be two different things

Like make it make sense

[boreal knoll]

I don’t agree with the Strike Shiggy

[vale mica]

Her melee into special is my issue

[vale mica]

He has two movement skills like Tamaki, his special is mid but better than ours imo. And his gamma gets him farther than our beta so…

[boreal knoll]

I mean not everyone should have good movement. Tamaki doesn’t HAVE to be able to keep up to modern standards. It’d be nice if he could, but I don’t want a giga mobility character that can kill most characters in two interactions

[boreal knoll]

Shiggy’s Special Action is REALLY good

And beta lets you go in any direction

Strike Shiggy can only stay on the ground with his gamma

[vale mica]

I get that, and Thats not what I’m asking for lol.
I just want to be able to keep up without special tuning

[vale mica]

Much farther and faster tho, rather have that tbh

Ion use beta for damage unless I have to

And his special would serve as the directional movement skill

[boreal knoll]

Unfortunately some characters will be forced to do that

Momo’s been doing that for a year now

[boreal knoll]

I prefer the freedom of direction over distance personally

[vale mica]

Her shield is better than our beta movement wise, directionally not so much tho

[boreal knoll]

Verticality is important too

[vale mica]

Tamaki cant run away tho, Thats the issue

[vale mica]

I agree

[boreal knoll]

True he has trouble running away which does suck but I’m fine with it for the most part

[vale mica]

I mean some characters like froppy and rapid Deku will chase you no matter what, but I should at least be able to outrun a strike Kirishima like come on

[boreal knoll]

Which is why I think his beta is better movement than Strike Shiggy’s gamma or Momo’s beta. Being able to go up is pretty nice even if the distance is less

[vale mica]

Why th can strike kiri move like that anyway??

[boreal knoll]

To be fair he’s only able to catch up because of an exploit the devs STILL have not fixed

[boreal knoll]

Because John Byking mains him and doesn’t wanna nerf him

[vale mica]

Bruh imma find that guy and have a nice chat

[boreal knoll]

😭

[brittle saddle]

Honestly i agree with everything said here

And yeah, I agree that both Hados are counters to Tamaki's gameplay, it's just that Fairy has stupid alpha reach, the only real way you could benefit from a Hado is if they're on your team, which I see less of nowadays

And Nagant, don't get me started on her, I think she deserves the Twice treatment if I'm being honest

But I want to say that just like playing Techjire, playing Tamaki also feels satisfying for me, like it feels good to actually get some downs with him and it feels good putting pressure on other opponents when I really couldn't with even Techjire

Look I have Nagant but I just feel that Tamaki is better, he might even be the most underutilized Strike character unless someone reminds me of another Strike character that's less utilized than Tamaki is

[vale mica]

I agree ngl, he’s the tech Dabi of the strike class

Imo

[brittle saddle]

Arguably, I think Techjire is more underutilized than Tech Dabi just because of the fact I see so many Tech Dabis around, like I see him more than I do Techjire, and the only Nejires in general that I see usually play Fairy

Techjires are rare to find nowadays

But yeah overall, I think Tamaki is the most underutilized Strike character, since there are so many Strike characters that overshadow him unfortunately

It's such a shame that it'll take a long time for him to become free, I think around 3 seasons more right?

[hearty cargo]

she cant do it anymore

[vale mica]

It’s back

[brittle saddle]

Wdym?

[boreal knoll]

I thnink Strike Shiggy is the worst Strike character personally

[vale mica]

Ehh, Hes still viable

[boreal knoll]

So is Tamaki

[vale mica]

His special carries lol

[boreal knoll]

But Strike Shiggy is worse

[vale mica]

Nah, strike shiggy is way better

Gimme a sec lol

His alpha and beta are great area denial tools, his alpha can be disgustingly strong at chipping away at opponents and his beta does that In a radius, which can be then paired with alpha for even more damage. His gamma is a solid movement skill, while it is limited to ground movement it gets him where he needs to be at a good pace, not to mention the grab that directly targets HP instead of their GP, which (for characters like rapid Mirio) is devastating. His special is his best movement skill to me at least, it’s directional on top of giving a debuff to his enemies. Hes a good strike character, and tbh, more versatile than Tamaki is.

[vale mica]

Sorry for the paragraph lol

[boreal knoll]

It's alrighty no worries :3

[vale mica]

Taking how Tamaki’s gamma works into consideration, Tamaki really only has three skills, his gamma only works in niche moments or finishing an enemy

[boreal knoll]

Those are all things he does yes, but what if someone we're to just, go up. A lot of newer characters have really good mobility, and someone like Strike Shiggy cannot do anything to them. He's great at area denial, but that's all Strike Shiggy can do and he gets mauled by a large number of the cast simply because they can choose not to take damage from him. Tamaki has a grab, more freedom with movement, disruption from afar, harder to shake off since he can follow people up, can fight people who are above him in general, and can kill in a decently short amount of time.

[vale mica]

For Shiggy it’s the same principle with support overhaul, every character will have to land eventually.
I agree that Tamaki does better in the sky than Shiggy, but I’d also add that Tamaki isnt that much better, his beta, gamma, and special will not reload if he’s in the air, that limits him severely.
I disagree with you saying he can follow people up, he can’t ive tried, he can’t catch anyone if they run away, if he did ion think we’d even be having this convo 😭
I’d give Tamaki points for finishing ppl fast but so can shiggy, especially with his alpha

Overall, Shiggy is taking the cake.

Tamaki is more niche* unfortunately

New map is actually horrendous for Tamaki too, they didn’t even think about the ground characters 😭

[boreal knoll]

Tamaki doesn't have to wait for someone to hit the ground

He has an alpha he can use to hit people above him which makes him at least 10x better than Strike Shiggy since he can't do that at all

I mean he ain't following Armored All Might or Nagant but a Strike Bakugo or something he has no problem following

[boreal knoll]

I'd actually say it's somewhat decent for grounded characters because two of the main hotspots are buildings

[vale mica]

imma list who Tamaki cant chase.
Assault Deku,
in some cases Strike Deku,
Rapid Deku,
Rapid Bakugo,
idk ab techugo,
rapid Ochaco,
assault Ochaco,
froppy,
Iida,
Twice kinda,
Techjire,
Support Nejire,
Armored Might,
rapid Might,
Rapid toga,
Tech toga,
Aizawa,
Strike Kiri,
Shinso,
Rapid hawks,
Mr marble guy i forgor his name,
Kurogiri,
Thats all i can think of

[vale mica]

If it’s the center you’re actually cooked if the portals disappear. Had it happen to me

[vale mica]

And I agree that he can do that, but it’s his alpha js VERY aim reliant, and when everyone above you is moving you’d be lucky to hit a grab

Alpha is*

[brittle saddle]

Actually if you guys were to rework Tamaki, what would y'all change or give to him to make him more viable for this meta?

[vale mica]

I have a list of the things Tamaki should be able to do in my notes app

Bro has animals, plants and even quirks in his arsenal but the writers never got into it and kinda sidelined him. Seems the devs are doing it here too

[brittle saddle]

Tbf I think the Big 3 were entirely just kinda used to make the villains look so much stronger

[vale mica]

My boy got turned into a feat

[brittle saddle]

Such as Dabi when he burned Hado and how Mirio couldn't even do anything against Shiggy

[vale mica]

Wallahi were cooked

[vale mica]

Nah she got hit ONCE and dropped like a fly, that was dumb

[brittle saddle]

Big 3 Spinoff needs to be explored

[brittle saddle]

Anyways when you find the time I wouldn't mind listening to them

It is weird on how his beta when being used normally doesn't have momentum, and how sometimes it locks onto someone else I didn't even want to hit

It's the worst when it tracks an opponent going above me

[boreal knoll]

If he has two Blackwhips probably not but he can still probably get the kill

Full Bullet is an easy chase

Yeah bro ain't catching him

Bro ain't catching him (if the Bakugo is good)

Cluster he can kinda chase but it's hard to because he can just beta behind him to get distance and also have hit boxes thrown out

Nobody catching up to Rapid Ochaco

Assault Ochaco is also kinda tricky but he can still probably get the kill

Tsuyu is pretty hard to chase true

Iida is also pretty hard unless they're bad

He can definitely chase Twice his movement is subpar at best

He can still be in range for alpha most likely even if Nejire uses all 4 of her dashes

Nobody is catching Armored All Might

Probably not catching Rapid All Might yeah

He can definitely chase Rapid Toga her movement is also subpar

He can most definitely chase a Tech Toga

If the Aizawa knows how to move then yeah he ain't catching him

Nobody can chase Strike Kirishima he can SHIELD while moving like that

He can probably chase Shinso if he grabs him before he gets too far

Both Hawks' he probably isn't catching especially Strike

Compress with 2 gammas is pretty hard to catch but with one gamma he can chase

Kurogiri is kinda hard but you can also take his portals so it isn't impossible

[boreal knoll]

It's happened to me too 😭

[boreal knoll]

Which is why in those moments you use unaimed alpha

Which isn't too hard to land personally

[vale mica]

Strike Deku isnt fast but can get plenty of height on Tamaki
Twice can drop decoys that beam at you while he runs off with his inertia
Nejire’s tend to stay close so easy grab, but don’t forget that tech has gamma for height and then can just special away while spamming alpha, making Tamaki fall down and lose more distance against her, same goes for support actually lol
Both Toga’s move faster and farther, yeah it’s subpar but compared to Tamaki it aint.

Shinso is way too fast to catch like that lol

Strike hawks is easy actually

Everything else I agree with

[vale mica]

Im on a Xbox One lol

Ion have that luxury

[vale mica]

I got you

Check ur DM’s lol, it’s a lot

[boreal knoll]

Which Tamaki can match
It isn't that much of a big deal since they die in one hit
Fair enough having alphas spammed at you while she runs is pretty rough
Their movement isn't beating out Tamaki's beta + his grab alpha range
If you don't catch his start up he can be
You've never fought a good Strike Hawks then because he can ZOOM

[boreal knoll]

Fair then

[vale mica]

Strike Deku’s alpha is nothing to sneeze at but if you grab him yeah Hes cooked
Idk ig im bad at chasing or smthn
The grab is valid, but both toga’s moves let them change direction like crazy, so grabs arent easy to hit
Shinso also has a grab, and it’s arguably more annoying than Tamaki’s
For strike hawks they are cooked tbe second they’re grabbed, their little dash is easy to dodge too

[boreal knoll]

If he's smart he'll remember he has aimed in shot but most Full Bullets don't remember

I mean it is overwhelming to have to aim at two targets so I can understand

If Tech Toga is swerving left and right with her beta to dodge you just aim at the middle and Rapid has a lot of end lag and start up

Shinso's doesn't kill you in two interactions while Tamaki's does, but that's comparing combat not chasing

This is also about fighting them and not chasing, but a bad Strike Hawks will miss a lot of their betas while a good one will set up into beta or make it hard to dodge

[vale mica]

Fair

Thanks lol

Good idea, might need to do that

Shinso has three (two of they’re absolutely CRACKED) interactions till down, and he has more movement to chase and run with

[boreal knoll]

I mean it's like 3 - 4 to kill with Shinso

[next idol]

Whats optimal for Amajiki? I have hero costume and cyber hero

[vale mica]

Embrittlement is extremely powerful with Tamaki, i usually run his “Fancy Festival” Skin, it’s fixer and embrittlement

[boreal knoll]

I would run these ones if you have Cyber Hero #1397500254080864387 message

[brittle saddle]

You guys, I have a question, how would I set up for using Tamaki's aimed alpha? What opponents should I try using the combo on and should I use it while moving or not (I have a hard time landing it when moving)?

[boreal knoll]

The easiest times to land an aim alpha is when someone is in end lag from a move, after someone rolls because you can catch the roll end lag, and if someone is moving slowly like Young All For One using gamma

I'd say it'd be good to get used to hitting aimed in alpha while moving because you're going to be strafing a lot while using it

And what combo are you asking about using? He has many

[brittle saddle]

No y'all told me some of the ones I should try using, mainly alpha -> melee jab -> melee jab -> beta

I want to start off easy and then raise the difficulty once it becomes trivial to me

[boreal knoll]

Yeah that's a good basic combo for good damage

That combo is pretty short so it's almost always good to use

The only times I wouldn't use it are when you need to save a beta for movement

[brittle saddle]

I just wanted to know ways to get the combo started, thx for letting me know I could catch them after a roll, that will be pretty useful for me

[brittle saddle]

Then I'll just replace beta with the tipper

If I want to save it for movement

[boreal knoll]

If you wanna use an alpha there's another combo you can use instead but it requires melee cancels and I don't know how comfortable you are with those

[brittle saddle]

I'm only kinda beginning them with Hado, she has a cancel when you delay her 2nd melee input

Other than that the only real "cancel" I know is melee jabbing

[boreal knoll]

Yeah everyone's melee cancel is all about delaying the melee 2 input

Tamaki's is pretty easy as well

[brittle saddle]

Ah I gotcha then

I'll try it out

[boreal knoll]

That's good to know as well. If you wanna upgrade the combo you've been using then you can actually add on a melee 3 (but only 3 hits of it) before beta

It only works on GP unless the enemy you grab is in the air (or if you're in the air when you grab them)

[brittle saddle]

My thing is that I didn't know that all characters actually have that combo cancel

I thought only Hado and Hawks had it

[boreal knoll]

Some characters either don't benefit from it or it's so insanely hard that it isn't worth learning on them

Dabi has both issues

[charred flint]

I have come for my people!

[vale mica]

How are we feeling about the buff?
I’m glad we got it, “beggars can’t be choosers” type of situation, BUT, I still feel that tamaki needs more. The buff did fix an issue but tbh it was an issue because they nerfed the reload time in the first place.

They still haven’t addressed the beta issues, the lack of inertia on that beta, or even fixed our alpha’s tip bonus range.

Tamaki still can’t chase after people and tamaki still has no long range options for combat.
(Gamma is situational, an enemy won’t stand there and let you hit them, they’d move to punish the use of gamma)

[young compass]

6s is exactly what I personally wanted. for myself, I'd just want a little bit of damage back on alpha, less ammo (at least for the grab variant), and that would be most of what I'd want ngl

[boreal knoll]

Eh. I wanted an unaimed alpha buff

I never felt bad with 8 second cooldown on Special Action

[tawny mural]

Are you serious?

In what way is he missing anything to be a good character

He has movement special action and beta plus he has a grab how is anyone supposed to get away from him. Are you guys just playing him wrong?

[brittle saddle]

I'll say it does feel better to use without it feeling super punishing

I tried it yesterday and I feel like it's a pretty good change

Tho I do understand where y'all are coming from with his beta, for some reason it tracks the person closest to you

Which I don't get

[boreal knoll]

To be fair his movement isn't the best

I don't think he needs anything crazy though to make it better he just needs momentum at the end of beta

[tawny mural]

It’s better than half the casts.
A lot of people don’t have movement at all. Some do but it sucks or is one dimensional his is every direction.

[boreal knoll]

Compared to recent releases it falls behind

[bold fog]

https://tenor.com/view/tamaki-amajiki-anime-nervous-gif-13109024

anybody could help me make a budget build for him

[boreal knoll]

Do you have his Dangerous default outfit

[bold fog]

dangerous outfit hmmm let me check

yes i do

[boreal knoll]

You can do Embrittlement and Revenge Strike then

From top left to bottom right I'd do this for regular tunes:

Tech Denki
Rapid All Might/One For All Deku/Rapid Bakugo
Tech Shiggy
Any beta/HP attack power
Assault Endeavor/Assault Overhaul
Tech All For One
Support Nejire
Any beta/HP attack power
Support Overhaul
Rapid All Might/One For All Deku/Rapid Bakugo

[bold fog]

got it thank you waiting till the next season so i can get keys

so i can make a pu build

[grizzled trellis]

My PlayStation account blessed me with Tamaki on my last green ticket

[boreal knoll]

He’s a fun fella

The game blessed me with Assault Ochaco on my last one

[grizzled trellis]

Nice

[grizzled trellis]

New Tamaki costume. Let’s go chat!

[boreal knoll]

I don’t really know what tunes he needs though

He’s kinda covered with what he has

I guess if he doesn’t have one already a Wall Runner and Embrittlement outfit could be nice

[grizzled trellis]

Let’s just hope

[vale mica]

Why did the big three get the most horrendous outfit ever

[plush radish]

Happy birthday Tamaki! <3

[vale mica]

Ty!

[grizzled trellis]

Happy birthday man

[boreal knoll]

😭

[vale mica]

Tyty

[brittle saddle]

So you guys, I decided to jump to Rendo for a short moment and holy moly, it really feels like Tamaki doesn't have much compared to Rendo, who's been mostly forgotten. I see what you guys mean when you say that Tamaki is probably the most lacking Strike character.

Not to say he's bad or anything, it's just he has a steeper learning curve, well much more steeper than someone like Rendo

I'd even say Strike Shiggy is easier to pick up and Tamaki is a character you have to actively roll for, I just feel bad for him

(Though my Strike Shiggy games are not good at all)

[brittle saddle]

I miss the Superstar Saga effects

Nice combo tho, love the way you intentionally miss his first hit

[boreal knoll]

He's not the most lacking Strike character

[boreal knoll]

Strike Kendo is harder I'd say

[boreal knoll]

Strike Shiggy IS easy to pick up and definitely way easier to than Tamaki

[boreal knoll]

The first melee has a lot of down power so avoiding it can lead to new combo routes

[young compass]

if you wanna do sideflip alpha debatable imo

without it he's kinda easier yeah

though movement has some depth to it either way

[brittle saddle]

That's pretty smart

[brittle saddle]

Yeah I'd say her combo routes are a lot more sophisticated and harder, but just picking her up as a casual player, she feels more friendly to casual players

She has a decent escape option and she does really good damage

Like you have 2 gammas that make it easy to traverse half the map

[brittle saddle]

I probably worded that wrong then, but I did hear stuff about him not being as played as much as other Strikes, and how other Strikes are so much better than him, especially in this meta where he can't really do as much as he used to

It's been forever since I've seen a Tamaki use gamma in the air

[boreal knoll]

True

[boreal knoll]

I suppose that's true yeah 🤔

I still think she's harder to play, but since she has better movement maybe more people will gravitate to her

[boreal knoll]

I will say most Strikes are better than him

But I wouldn't call him lacking

[boreal knoll]

To be fair it's usually better to use them on the ground so you can roll out of it for less end lag

[vale mica]

Thank you 😭

[plush radish]

Soo umm Tamaki’s

What even happened to yall?

[vale mica]

Also they just killed our character 🫩✌️

No grabbing ppl with super armor

I think the assault Afo players were complaining ab

[brittle saddle]

His gamma is annoying though

Now we just gotta just dodge, tank, and hope for the best?

[plush radish]

You guys have been getting gutted since season 14

[vale mica]

Yep 🫩

[vale mica]

Anyone feeling the difference yet?

[boreal knoll]

I haven't played him yet but I imagine I will a LOT

[naive vapor]

What are some good tunings for tamaki?

[vale mica]

Fancy version of his festival skin, embroilment & fixer, I’d optimize fixer for damage.

Embrittlement*

[boreal knoll]

^ Best build in my opinion

[naive vapor]

Ok thank you very much

[pliant solstice]

What tuning costume do y’all use with cyber hero amajiki?

[boreal knoll]

#1397500254080864387 message

[pliant solstice]

im assuming this is the build?

[boreal knoll]

Yeah something like that! There is actually a combo that makes Acceleration viable but if you don't know it then Wall Runner would be better. I'd also change some of the regular slots if you have the data for it

[pliant solstice]

you mean the one where you alpha, air melee, then beta?

[boreal knoll]

Todoroki -> Bakugo
Assault Shiggy -> Endeavor
Deku -> Beta/HP attack power
Young All For One -> Overhaul

[pliant solstice]

i can't really change much with the yellow slots but the others i can try

[boreal knoll]

Lemme find it and send it to you

[pliant solstice]

kk

[boreal knoll]

#1397500254080864387 message

[pliant solstice]

i see

[pliant solstice]

i dont have bakugo and can't change the yellow slots but why would beta/hp be better than deku? i have mic and kendo

[boreal knoll]

GP attack power is usually the worst option since GP on every character is only 250 while most characters have 300 or higher HP so it makes more sense to give more attack power to HP since there's more of it

And beta is just because he ends most combos with beta so having that do more damage on both GP and HP is always nice

[pliant solstice]

ah i see alright

[boreal knoll]

The only reason it's good on Endeavor and Overhaul is because those are the only good damage tunes the Assault class has

[pliant solstice]

i dont own them sooo yea

[boreal knoll]

Me neither 😭

[naive vapor]

I feel like wall runner would be good on tamaki

[brittle saddle]

Guys I had a really good Tamaki match earlier, 6 kos and 5.6k dmg

I forgot to take a pic tho

[vale mica]

I use these

[vale mica]

Nice

[brittle saddle]

My Fairy kept me charged up so I was able to kill like 3 people with a fully charged gamma

Such a shame too, that was probably my best Tamaki game ever

Like it's close to some of my really good Hado games

[vale mica]

That’s what I’m saying, ranking doesn’t matter if the player is good enough. But even so, stuff like not being able to grab super armored ppl is insane.

[brittle saddle]

Atp I don't think it matters at all either, exploiters and cheaters, the fact that "combos" can leave you like 90% damaged and you can't do a single thing about it.

[vale mica]

Using this I was able to chart out some combo’s and their damage.

[vale mica]

NOTICE: The damage you deal may vary based on tuning, most of the extra damage you see is from embrittlement and extremely optimized damage through fixer.
I included embrittlement into damage calculation, so if you do not have embrittlement you may lose between 10 and 50+ damage depending on what skill is used.

@brittle saddle

[boreal knoll]

Are these some starter combos for newer Tamakis?

[vale mica]

They are useable but keep in mind that it won’t be the same damage, give or take 20~50+ damage difference without embrittlement and my tuning

[boreal knoll]

I was gonna add grab -> melee 1 -> melee 2 -> melee 3 3 hits -> beta if it wasn't on there already

[vale mica]

Good idea but I lowk cant hit Ts often

Any tips on canceling melee 3?

Lemme add it tho

Tbh I was surprised how strong grab-melee-special-beta is

[vale mica]

Is it even possible on console?

It’s hard to tell how much damage those three melee’s do, not to mention I have to account for embrittlement

Nvm I got it

I didn’t know I could cancel my melee using beta, I have been playing wrong for SO LONG

🤦‍♂️

[boreal knoll]

Seems like you got it :3

Though do note

That combo works on a grounded enemy on GP, but on HP make sure you short hop to the side THEN grab so the enemy is in the air when you do your melees

[vale mica]

There we go

[boreal knoll]

This is important because the combo will not work on enemies on HP if they are too close to the ground

[vale mica]

Thanks for this

Weird, I noticed that you can ONLY cancel using beta. Alpha, special, and gamma Dont cancel.

[vale mica]

@boreal knoll Just discovered this, kinda niche but cool to find

Added it to the log

[vale mica]

Updated chart above 👆

[boreal knoll]

That could work, but surely there's more damaging combos off air melee 🤔

[vale mica]

Oh?

I could see it being used if someone doesn’t have their beta in an enclosed space

[vale mica]

@brittle saddle

[vale mica]

Also I just want to draw attention to the fact that many characters got momentum buffs recently. This includes but is not limited to: Strike Present Mic, Assault All Might (I think), and Strike Denki Kaminari. They are actively giving these buffs to strike characters while avoiding Tamaki.

[brittle saddle]

This is interesting, I think I'm still gonna stick with Festival Fancy for now

[brittle saddle]

Dang I don't often try air melees like that, also I thought 2 of them caused a knockdown

[brittle saddle]

You have the file on hand? I don't think I'll learn it all too much yet but I do want to at least see some alternatives from grab -> melee -> melee -> beta

[vale mica]

That’s what I use lol

[vale mica]

Air melee send ppl flying, that’s why the opponent needs to be against something, the alpha may or may not be subbed for beta, haven’t checked tho

[vale mica]

Yeah I’ll DM you it

[brittle saddle]

I'll keep that in mind, though usually I want to do the most efficient combos whereever I am

[brittle saddle]

Also thx, I have it downloaded, I'll be sure to study it