Tamaki Amajiki

[young compass]

taken into account already

[vale mica]

Ab.

Ah*

[brittle saddle]

I gotta get down his simple combo, the alpha pull into 2 melees into beta

I did do alpha pull air melee beta, which was fun to do but I wasn't recommended it, I think it's probably hard to pull off

[vale mica]

I prefer to save my beta’s for movement or larger threats, so my usual combo doesn’t have beta included.

[brittle saddle]

No I won't, I still love Hado and I don't plan on abandoning her anytime soon

[mossy dagger]

-# don’t betray us :(

[young compass]

my current understanding is that these tunes increase reload speed, not lower flat cool down. but even if they did the numbers wouldn't be much better

[vale mica]

Idk, I’ve noticed the difference.

[mossy dagger]

You doing math has broken my brain even more than it’s supposed to

[young compass]

afaik it can be inconsistent at times, and waiting a bit before beta might be required in some situations, I'm not fully sure on it myself but it's good if you can land it

[young compass]

sowwie >.<

[young compass]

gotcha

[vale mica]

Since it’s level 11 fixer, it is a more than double the speed without fixer.

Not much but still applicable

[brittle saddle]

Bee I'm not betraying you!!! I still love Hado!!! She'll always be #1 for me!!!

UMMM LOOK DIVERSION

[young compass]

that's the • 2.1 in the calculation btw
first is just mic, second is mic plus afo both under fixer

[vale mica]

Grab, melee x1, special, alpha.
Grab is simple, melee is mainly for those who want that extra damage and who have the right special tuning, like embrittlement. Special knocks them into the air, and with some practice you’ll be able to hit them with alpha in the air, finishing the combo with a guardbreak. No beta needed.

[vale mica]

[young compass]

but it is 0.62s out of 8s, which is a 7.7% lower cooldown which might be noticeable. idk if it's better than running alpha attack instead though

[brittle saddle]

That's interesting, I especially like the idea of comboing with his SPA

[mossy dagger]

-# okay if you say so..

-# i believe you

[mossy dagger]

-# what even is this..?

[brittle saddle]

Trust me, I'm honored to be your assistant and i will continue

[vale mica]

I didn’t know that the game’s tuning system was so stingy with reload times.

[brittle saddle]

I still can't believe they nerfed his SPA reload

[mossy dagger]

^_^

[vale mica]

They did, it killed the character

[brittle saddle]

-# Am I a better assistant than Rage?

[mossy dagger]

You’re just bad at him, my reload speed is good bruh

[mossy dagger]

-# shhhhh

[vale mica]

I’m seeing him more bc he’s in the roll screen, but after this season, without a buff, idk if ppl will continue playing him

[young compass]

strike and assault cards give 10% bonus, tech cards give 50% bonus
in tuning both give 2% / 2.5%
so it just doesn't translate as well for reloads

[brittle saddle]

As someone who's used to Nejire SPA and being able to float, he just feels stuck to the ground for me, tho he does have good mobility

[young compass]

math moment >.<

[mossy dagger]

Are you good at geometry

[brittle saddle]

And they didn't even fix the part i thought was the most broken about him, his beta hitbox

[mossy dagger]

I can send my tunning

The one I have for Tamaki

[brittle saddle]

Sure I don't mind

[mossy dagger]

My reload speed comes back quickly for some reason

[young compass]

prolly why?

[mossy dagger]

Here’s my tunning for the Tamaki

[brittle saddle]

Huh I do wanna use good casual wear tuning

[mossy dagger]

I suck at math

[brittle saddle]

I have all costumes unlocked

[mossy dagger]

I land and 2 sec later my Sa comes back

[brittle saddle]

For his casual

[mossy dagger]

While I was in a match with Rage, I kept getting my SA back

Really quickly

[young compass]

need help/tutoring? >.<

[vale mica]

It’s the tracking for me, I don’t want to be forced back to the enemy I’m trying to run from.

[brittle saddle]

That's true and if you lock on to someone else, you're putting yourself in more danger

[mossy dagger]

I’m okayyyy

Everytime I play Tamaki

I get some stupid movement

beta SA beta

I wish he could move with.. his alpha

[vale mica]

We are punished from using that because he can’t reload in the air

[mossy dagger]

BUT CLAM WILL BE ADDED TO HIS QUIRKSET

[young compass]

alr, I know that liking math is pretty weird

[mossy dagger]

BUT CLAM WILL BE ADDED TO HIS QUIRKSET

[vale mica]

No

[vale mica]

Not that weird, pretty normal gng

[mossy dagger]

It’s happening

It’s gonna happen

Clam is gonna be his QUIRKSET I swear it

[brittle saddle]

I felt that immediately after going in the air to fire his Kamehameha cannon

[young compass]

ngl I should play this guy again some time

[brittle saddle]

With Hado I usually conserve enough of my resources to have them start reloading, or wall runner just does the work for me, but with Tamaki, holy moly I feel a difference from his skills not reloading immediately after charging a gamma

[vale mica]

Should, still good as long as your good at the game

[mossy dagger]

Emjay, I might be getting death threats

[brittle saddle]

Why?

[mossy dagger]

Because I keep saying clam..

[brittle saddle]

What happened?

[mossy dagger]

So you know how Tamaki has his clam

[brittle saddle]

"Check out these claws"

[mossy dagger]

In alls justice

If he were to get a QuirkSET it’s coming from there

[vale mica]

“Claw” ≠ “Clam”

[young compass]

my last game was a really high scoring game iirc, don't remember why I didn't come back
my main gripe is the unusable gamma at high fps

[brittle saddle]

I know it doesn't, I just got reminded of the quote

[vale mica]

Yeah, I’m Xbox one s so ion have a bad gamma

[brittle saddle]

"Well these CLAWS ain't for just attracting mates!"

[mossy dagger]

SPONGEBOB

[brittle saddle]

https://tenor.com/view/big-meaty-claws-mr-krabs-spongebob-squarepants-blue-fish-claws-gif-7387164

[young compass]

lucky you 😭

[mossy dagger]

Tamaki’s weapon should be a crowbar

and he should wear shoes

(He looks homeless af)

[brittle saddle]

This feels like GMod or SMG4

[vale mica]

Gmod

[brittle saddle]

But how are his talons supposed to come out?

He'd be ripping his shoes every time

[vale mica]

NOT LUCKY AT ALL, THE LAG I GET IS HORRIBLE 😭

[mossy dagger]

It’s a GMOD

[vale mica]

Always barefoot

[mossy dagger]

Nobody wanna see em toes

[vale mica]

Garry’s Mod - GMod.

[mossy dagger]

Tamaki would make BANK out of that

[brittle saddle]

Plus I love the way he uses a chicken

Don't ask me why but I do

[mossy dagger]

He can’t fly

Tho

[brittle saddle]

That's why he has Hado

[mossy dagger]

Hado ain’t carrying him

Ngl she would

Then she would yeet him

[brittle saddle]

But she would...

-#

[mossy dagger]

Yeet him

[boreal knoll]

I don’t think reloading Special Action is as important as you’re making it out to be personally

[boreal knoll]

I do not agree with this at all

Tamaki is still strong and the Special Action nerf was warranted

He had too much vertical mobility before the nerf

[boreal knoll]

They need to nerf the tracking and damage of beta and I think he’d be perfect

[boreal knoll]

He probably doesn’t so he can transform his feet easier

[vale mica]

At least for me, special action is almost always being used, and I use it for mobility on rare occasions, mainly using special action in my main combo.
Tamaki IS strong, especially in the right hands, the issue is that the nerfs make him a hard character to pick up, barely any mobility tends to keep away new players.
When it comes to vertical mobility, it’s countered by the fact that he can’t reload special action in the air, meaning he has to land, making it not as strong as your making it sound.
I agree that the tracking needs a nerf, it’s so strong that it takes you to the players you’re trying to run from, damage is whatever.

[boreal knoll]

Even if you have to wait to hit the ground/grab a wall it was still oppressive movement. I do feel you with the combo aspect of it though since I used to use it as my main wake up catch

And I wouldn’t say he barely has any mobility he has average mobility

[vale mica]

Shinso, Lady Nagant, shoot even strike Kirishima has more mobility than Tamaki, and the difference is insane. In comparison, tamaki has Hardly any movement at all.

Strike Shiggy’s gamma, despite also having two mobility skills, is also in a way better situation than Tamaki. His gamma lets him run along the ground pretty far, farther than Tamaki’s beta, and his special action has two claw attacks in any direction, which gives them more options on where to move instead of Tamaki’s that just goes up (not that I dislike Tamaki’s special being what it is), either way, he’s outclassed by so many other strikes no new player would be willing to pick Tamaki up.

[vale mica]

Mobility is, unfortunately, everything in this game, and tamaki lacks enough for new players to consider maining him.

[brittle saddle]

I picked him up cuz I wanted him since he first came out

He's a special character technically, not only do I relate to him super well, but he was also the first new MHUR character to come out for me, since I joined at the tail end of Season 11 for the Hado rerolls

[boreal knoll]

That’s fair I do agree that mobility is everything in this game and there’s more appealing options in that regard

[boreal knoll]

For me it was Monoma since I started in the second half of season 10

[vale mica]

Joined the season before he dropped, soon as assault endeavor dropped I picked him up, did okay. Then Tamaki came out, and It clicked for me.

[boreal knoll]

I made sure I could get Tamaki because I love him

I relate to him and he’s cute

Plus his arc is cool

[vale mica]

Lady Nagant, Shinso, Kirishima, Shigaraki, Bakugo, Midoriya, even the strike Afo theyre dropping has more movement than Tamaki. It’s not fair at all.

All strike

[mint fulcrum]

and star and stripes

[vale mica]

Yeah her too

[mossy dagger]

I feel so sorry

For Tamaki players

It makes the situation worse if hado is not there to back Tamaki up he pretty much has no way of like killing if they’re like on PC but the console Tamaki’s that I’ve been with so far they’ve had trouble trying to kill or just can’t keep up with movement and when I get there, I end up killing them instead, so I feel like that’s unfair to you guys. However I’m also feeling like the devs right now they’re not taking giving characters the right CLASSES like they’re giving movements to characters that don’t belong in that class when Hado came out she was the second flying character she didn’t look like a tech. She looked like a rapid, and look at Hado again, she doesn’t look like a support. Shes a strike.

AND DONT GET ME STARTED ON STRIKE KIRI

[boreal knoll]

Now EVERYONE has to deal with slow Tamaki cannon

[young compass]

first aiming is waaaay faster

shooting is kinda minimally faster than 120fps before I think?

[boreal knoll]

Oh is it?

I only tested firing speed not aiming speed

[young compass]

it is ye

[boreal knoll]

Peak

[young compass]

night and day for sure

[snow lark]

So i wasn't tripping they made it slow on console too?

[boreal knoll]

Yep

Because console could move it super fast while shooting and aiming whole players at 120 frames had it super slow

Now everyone has it faster for aiming and slower for shooting

[snow lark]

Guess i can't throw random cannons anymore...

[mossy dagger]

Believe me

Your ceo

Is mad rn

[young compass]

understandable

[normal shore]

ig we still have our combos😭

[snow lark]

Nah imma lose it if we get the Shinso treatment, he was my other main

[mossy dagger]

@vale mica

[vale mica]

Ts is worse than “the Shinso treatment” at least he has three beta’s

[mossy dagger]

Maybe you guys will try buffed

[snow lark]

That takes an aeon to reload 💀

Shinso's just not fun anymore, he's just an alpha beta merchant now

Tamaki was already better fun wise & they made it worse

(i feel a lil sad tho since i enjoyed Tamaki's gamma the most with the snipes)

[vale mica]

If you use all three beta’s yeah

[mossy dagger]

I feel horrible for yall

I said this yesterday but

It makes the situation worse if hado is not there to back Tamaki up he pretty much has no way of like killing because he gets out paced ive seen it, I’ve witnessed it if they’re like on PC maybe they have an upper hand but the console Tamaki’s that I’ve been with so far (not you @vale mica )they’ve had trouble trying to kill or just can’t keep up with movement and when I get there, I end up killing them instead, so I feel like that’s unfair to you guys.

[vale mica]

Fortunately I was lucky enough to begin playing seriously as soon as Tamaki dropped, able to keep up with today’s meta despite the disadvantages. But I’m still disappointed since there’ll be less new Tamaki players until the next skill set.

[mossy dagger]

Everytime I play with The CEO, we always get the opponent into combos I’ve seen them do stuff with Tamaki, Tamaki right now is going through the “nerf.” Before a quirkset

I don’t know when the next patch notes is

But i really hope yall get 3 betas

Star and stripes have 3 gammas

[snow lark]

Ngl playing without my duo Nejire yesterday made me feel the difference (the shadow nerf made it worse) hitting someone with the cannon was hard as is, & havint to aim in for a grab waste so much time, & no mobility just sucks overall i don't understand why did they nerf his spa the only mobility tool he had

[snow lark]

If They're planning to release a qss we can kiss those buffs goodbye already...

[mossy dagger]

@vale mica when we play together is it easier or harder?

[mossy dagger]

I’m sure you guys will get buffed

Heck they might even give him two SA maybe

[snow lark]

I wouldn't say no to that lol

[snow lark]

Or maybe i just became too reliant on her...

[mossy dagger]

I’m sure that’s not the case

[snow lark]

That aside, why didn't we get a new emote with his event? Instead we got one for Shoto?

[mossy dagger]

Uhhh

He got a new fit

Kinda

[vale mica]

Easier

[mossy dagger]

Maybe

It’s canon

Tamaki does need a nejire or Mirio

But that’s not his role tho

I get it he’s supposed to be the “baby”

But cut the man some slack

[snow lark]

Yea i feel like he's too reliant on the big 3 team comp

[mossy dagger]

Yeah

I thought he was gonna be an assault

When he got dropped

[snow lark]

His qss may be, i can see em using the clam this time

[mossy dagger]

.

[mossy dagger]

@vale mica

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/497871673064947733/1455398803505938514/IMG_3747.gif

[vale mica]

…

[mossy dagger]

Cooked?

Or crashout

[boreal knoll]

You guys are talking like Tamaki got giga nerfed

Did something else happen besides the universal cannon speed?

Because I see that as a good thing

[sonic loom]

nah

people just complaining bc he isnt super broken

[mossy dagger]

Hold on

Tamaki’s alpha got snatched?

[vale mica]

Idek what to do

[boreal knoll]

How so?

[mossy dagger]

I heard his damage

[boreal knoll]

That’s been nerfed

[mossy dagger]

THIS LAG IS DEPRESSING

[boreal knoll]

From 60 something to 30 something for his grab

That nerf happened last season or season 14

[boreal knoll]

In chaotic situations like that if possible try to run away and bait one of them into chasing you that way it’s a 1v1

Hopefully your teammates can contain the other two enemies while you murder the dude who’s by himself

[vale mica]

The clip didnt have what I was talking about mb

[boreal knoll]

Ah okay

[vale mica]

I got stun locked by the Kirishima, died, and genuinely rage quit

Never been so mad at a video game

[boreal knoll]

😭 😭 😭 😭 😭 😭

That sounds atrocious I am so sorry that happened

[mossy dagger]

Wanna play?

[vale mica]

Nah

[mossy dagger]

I SAW YOUR MESSAGE

Eat this Amajiki!

[brittle saddle]

I know I'm digging up a previous message but I understand. Especially on the less new players until a skill set comes out, and then if he ends up being OP are they really playing him for the fact that he was cool or are they playing him cuz they heard he was OP

Other than that, I do hope for when the QSS comes out for him, we get undefeatable outfits for The Big 3, I couldn't see any other perfect time

I've just been trying to adjust to Hado's hover change, it feels fine. Im certainly gonna continue playing Tamaki in this meta, I've personally been wanting him since he released so I'm gonna learn him

Also Bee I'll still be loyal to Hadoism, I feel like I'm the only one now honestly since I don't think the hover change affects me that bad

[mossy dagger]

Tamaki stays in his box

[brittle saddle]

My best Tamaki round so far (I don't know if I broke 3k damage yet) But I'm still learning with him

(This was like either on the day or a day after I unlocked him I don't think I peaked since)

[vale mica]

How do you usually play him?

[mossy dagger]

I’m getting on to grind

[brittle saddle]

I usually play him like I do other characters, usually passive or I'm just an annoying third partier who grabs someone who doesn't expect it

One thing I gotta work on his using his normal alpha more often than his grab alpha

[vale mica]

Tuning helps too, what you rockin?

[vale mica]

I feel that

[brittle saddle]

Festival Fancy with Embrittlement + Fixer

[vale mica]

Best tuning for him all around imo

Best for solo battle while keeping movement available bc of fixer

[brittle saddle]

Like my brother was watching me play and he was coaching me on using his normal alpha when I'd be using his grab alpha. He sometimes helps me even when I play Hado (with Fairy I forget her gamma exists so he often reminds me of it)

[vale mica]

Embrittlement allows for easier guardbreaking combo’s that dont use beta, letting you keep it for movement

[brittle saddle]

I used to think his beta was OP given it's hitbox was so generous, it hits like a truck

Then when I end up doing it, I have a new opinion on it

It's inconsistent at times

[vale mica]

Mind you, it is strong, but using it for movement is better in the long run

[brittle saddle]

Wait, how would you use SPA in a combo? Cuz I tried using it but it throws off my camera

[brittle saddle]

Also yeah I feel it when I have no SPA or no beta

[vale mica]

Best combo for guaranteed guardbreak (which was invented by yours truly): Grab, melee for embrittlement, special, alpha.

Takes aim and patience

But easy combo when in a flow

[brittle saddle]

What do you do with your camera when you use SPA?

[vale mica]

Keep it in one spot, where they are specifically, wait for their body to reach your curser then fire.

[brittle saddle]

Gotcha

[vale mica]

Check some of jt clips for examples

Want my TikTok?

[brittle saddle]

That was one thing that got me hooked to Tamaki, his combo potential, like not just his grab into melee into beta, but the fact you can mix and match

[brittle saddle]

Eh I'm not sure if I could watch them, I don't have TikTok

[vale mica]

Exactly, very versatile in the right hands

[vale mica]

Ah mb

[brittle saddle]

Wait where do you think Tamaki lies on a tier list?

[vale mica]

S tier

In the right hands

Usually? B tier

[mossy dagger]

C tier :)

[brittle saddle]

I know when to respect a good Tamaki player, I think yesterday I had this pretty good Tamaki player that was doing his best but in this meta

[mossy dagger]

(Don’t harm me!$

[brittle saddle]

When he died bro said "I'm sorry... It's my fault"

[vale mica]

No.

[mossy dagger]

C tier

[vale mica]

You hate me.

Im going to bed knowing that.

Thanks.

[brittle saddle]

Now my rteal question arises, is Tamaki as good as Techjire or better?

[brittle saddle]

I'm paralyzed

[boreal knoll]

I feel like just doing grab -> melee -> melee -> beta is more damage no?

[boreal knoll]

I don’t know about S or B

I think he’s A tier

[vale mica]

Embrtillment makes up for that,

[vale mica]

I disagree.

[boreal knoll]

I think even with Embrittlement just two melees into beta is more damage

[vale mica]

Idk, I prefer saving my beta for movement. Ydy.

[boreal knoll]

How come you think he’s S in the right hands then?

[boreal knoll]

That’s also valid

I prefer a mix of movement and damage with my betas

[vale mica]

Tamaki is very versatile, alpha is good damage and if your lucky you can hit those pinpoint ones for even more damage, not to mention the grab that allows for easy combos, beta is genuinely insane, needs rebalancing, gamma is useful, good for campers, wake up catching, finishing, sniping, etc. special is a good escape tool, as well as a good combo tool.

And he gets a bonus from Nejire’s

Since the fairy drop I figured it’d be good to mention

Okay off to bed fr this time

Before she kills me

[brittle saddle]

Fun fact, Fairy alpha also insta charges his plasma cannon

[boreal knoll]

He’s had the bonus from Nejire since he dropped

It’s just that Tech Nejires never shoot into his cannon so everyone forgot about it

Plus not a lot of people on general played Nejire before Support Nejire came out

And they still don’t think to shoot into it because they can just gamma and not have to think about it

[boreal knoll]

Also gamma is only good for wake up catching in very niche situations

Otherwise they’ll just use their i-frames to go behind you and then you get punished

And while all of those things are positives is he the same level of good as say Lady Nagant? One For All Deku? Armored All Might? Tech Shiggy?

Tamaki is good but not THAT good

His mobility is alright at best and he’s very dependent on 1v1 situations

[brittle saddle]

I really do try to use my skills when he charges gamma but it's usually very awkward since he's charging it from across the map or isn't near me at all and the times I am nearby I'm probably helping him out by fighting people

There was one time where I gamma'd into his cannon with Tech and I thought that was cool

[boreal knoll]

The ones I get just don’t ever do it

They could be sitting right next to me while I charge and then not shoot my gamma

[brittle saddle]

Okay that's just them going "What's that thing? "

[boreal knoll]

They never do it it’s annoying 😭

[brittle saddle]

I really like doing it tho, it helps them out and it means they don't have to spend eternity charging it

[brittle saddle]

Playing Tamaki with a fairy on your team is actually pretty fun

[boreal knoll]

This is a true

Instant cannons on demand!

[brittle saddle]

It feels good to be benefitted by your own character

[brittle saddle]

I did a good job here

[boreal knoll]

https://tenor.com/view/himiko-toga-my-hero-academia-mha-bnha-toga-himiko-gif-7690763942449323952

If you'd like I'd like to see your gameplay while playing him

[brittle saddle]

Luckily I recorded that whole match, I just gotta find time to clip some parts and send them over

It also feels good to confirm with his gamma

[mild prawn]

@boreal knoll can u show me how to do his melee cancels

[boreal knoll]

I agree

[boreal knoll]

#1397500254080864387 message

[young compass]

funnily enough I was also just in training playing around with him / willing to record it in case that would already help. Anyway cause I did already do that, here's what the cancel looks like in a combo:
https://medal.tv/games/my-hero-ultra-rumble/clips/mp0E5ipEfs1qVJaab?invite=cr-MSxRWlQsNTQyMzcyMzU4&v=8

also I finally learned the air melee > beta timing

it's really just knowing that they can't wake up, so you have time

so now I shall hit my grab air melee betas consistently

playing him makes me think I wanna play him more but I also have that dormant feeling that without tuning added mobility, I might not enjoy my time on him as much, I shall see

[brittle saddle]

I should make another build with him with Acceleration on

I know Acceleration with Nejire feels really good, it makes Techjire feel like a rapid character if I'm being honest, so I could imagine it'd make him feel decently fast as well

[brittle saddle]

Can you do 3 melee cancels before the opponent gets knocked back?

My combo with Nejire is melee, melee, melee, gamma (I pause after each melee), can Tamaki do something like that?

[young compass]

he can do this: https://medal.tv/games/my-hero-ultra-rumble/clips/mp1jDxM1XJQPhtses?invite=cr-MSxGV2YsNTQyMzcyMzU4&v=7

two cancels, m1 m2 m3c m1 m2 m3c alpha

but this only works if the second melee chain starts vs gp

if the first melee chain guarbreaks you can't use this combo (I don't remember if you can alpha grab beta instead then)

[young compass]

accel is mostly a speed boost for him, it's pretty solid afaik, but I still haven't decided what to build on him as you can still see me rocking a busget build

[boreal knoll]

Like air grab?

[boreal knoll]

Unfortunately it’s only good as a speed boost 😭

Wish he got more out of it

[young compass]

yup

[young compass]

yeah :
with the changes maybe now he has one or maybe two character specific accel combos against people that take less downpower??? but that would be it

[boreal knoll]

I’d have to learn the timing then because they always seem to recover before I can land the beta

[young compass]

maybe it doesn't work then

[boreal knoll]

Yeah maybe

[young compass]

in training it works against bots on gp

[boreal knoll]

Like for when you grab a Young All For One in his gamma or something

[young compass]

those chars yeah

[boreal knoll]

It could be a skill issue on my part as well

[young compass]

idk if there's a char that makes pull be 100dp <= relative pull dp < 200
I think that's when opening up something accel exclusive might be most likely and even then it will probably be gp / air exclusive

[young compass]

maybe I'll hop in a game to check

[young compass]

or ping >.<

[boreal knoll]

Could also be that

[young compass]

while I didn't learn what I was looking for, I learned what it looks like when a soul leaves a body
https://medal.tv/games/my-hero-ultra-rumble/clips/mp868QZaJP9Arvpme?invite=cr-MSx1N2YsNTQyMzcyMzU4&v=10

well second game I did get a couple air alpha air melee betas and all of them worked

so I think you can time/aim it

but also bruh 😭

yafo in the lobby

proceeds to hard focus me and only me 😭

[vale mica]

Yes, easy to time once into a flow. Practice makes perfect as they say.

[sonic loom]

I think on yafo if u have accel you could hit grab m3 cancel sa beta

Without accel instead of sa itd be m1 again

This would work on strike kendo beta too bc yafo gamma and strike kendo beta both half the dp of the grab

[young compass]

strike kendo is definitely less than half, I believe she pushes grab dp < 100, so grab m1 m2 m3c m1 m2 m3 beta might be possible???

maybe need to guardbreak at a specific moment and grab in the air

[sonic loom]

I think itd have to be in the air for that

Cuz I think that guardbreaks before beta

[young compass]

air variant confirmed possible (idk why I'm doing a second melee cancel though 😂)
https://medal.tv/games/my-hero-ultra-rumble/clips/mp9cS3fJMaJGXRF9U?invite=cr-MSxUSkgsNTQyMzcyMzU4&v=0

[young compass]

forgot to make it a reply >.<

sometimes I can do grab m1 m2 m3c m1 m2 m3c grounded but beta just doesn't even work remotely at the end so you'd have to alpha, plus the double melee cancel is pretty inconsistent for me on the ground

[sonic loom]

Melee cancel beta on flesh doesnt work on the ground sadly

[young compass]

yup :<

I was hoping I could manip them far enough above the ground somehow with melee timings but no chance

[next idol]

how do you do that thing where you stop meleeing, and then melee some more?

[boreal knoll]

How...

[boreal knoll]

I see I see

I do know that you have to wait for Tamaki to enter his idle animation for beta to not have weird tracking

[boreal knoll]

Melee cancels? There's an example on how to do it here #1397500254080864387 message

The trick is you have to do these two things:

1. Not be pressing a movement input when you melee
2. Wait a second after Tamaki's hand returns to normal after you input a melee 1 before doing a melee 2

Now all you have to do is press a movement input during the melee when you want to do a different move to cancel its animation!

[young compass]

idk 😭

also sidenote I finally had an endgame as tamaki I was proud of (at 40s my inputs freeze for a moment 😭)
https://medal.tv/games/my-hero-ultra-rumble/clips/mpa6s1yUXpaJY2vRw?invite=cr-MSxYcjMsNTQyMzcyMzU4&v=118

I'm kinda bad at the guy, I just wanted to try and see if I could hit the double melee cancel combo on a star and stripe spamming gamma

but think I did pretty okay :>

does the video not work? 😭

[boreal knoll]

For longer clips it takes a while for Medal to stop doing Medal things

[young compass]

gotcha >.<

was my first time using the editor to splice two 1min clips together

on the web the vid works for me now'

[boreal knoll]

@young compass I'm having trouble coming up with lower DP grab combos

All the ones I've tried are still too much down power

[young compass]

for the special cases like red kendo you mean?

[boreal knoll]

Yeah

[young compass]

I think for most you can calc the first grab as 0dp and take a mental note that further grabs may add 300dp instead of 250 or basically one more "hit" ig depending on the enemy (some may not even require this extra step, like yafo in final gamma phase shouldn't)
for I think blue allmight specifically? the first grab might need to be counted as 100dp outright
note: these numbers are not accurate but should result in the same/similar behavior as the actual numbers
so uh yeah dunno if that helps at all >.<

I can just mostly do calculations once I know if the initial grab is less than 50dp, between 50 and 100, or between 100 and 150, past that I kinda just know te values >.<

[mild prawn]

guys what’s tamakis most optimal combos ?

@young compass

[young compass]

I'm kinda too tired rn to trust myself to make a comprehensive educational list
I know the guide has some combos but a lot of the details aren't mentioned/outdated
I'd be down to try again tomorrow-ish or maybe you already get an answer with a lot of the info before then (oh, if you want me to do it, I'll need a reminder ping or I will forget)

[boreal knoll]

I feel like I tried every combo I could but no worky 😔

[boreal knoll]

#1397500254080864387 message

[mild prawn]

is alpha grab into air melee alpha good?

[mild prawn]

@boreal knoll do yk how to hit them with crit alpha ?

more often

[boreal knoll]

It’s a consistent decent damage combo if you grab someone while you’re in the air I say

Though @young compass has managed to make replacing the alpha with beta work but I imagine only on GP?

[boreal knoll]

Good spacing

My personal advice would be to try to go into training and see how small someone looks when in range of the tipper

Because once you have that size reference you can try using that in real matches to confirm tippers

[mild prawn]

got any settings i should test with him?

[boreal knoll]

Not in particular sorry

The only advice I could give in regards to settings is to make sure you have a comfortable sensitivity to hit both versions of alpha

[mild prawn]

oh yea one more question when ur up against someone who keeps rolling ur alpha what should i do

[boreal knoll]

Wait and time your alpha to the end of their roll

Once their roll finishes there’s a window where you can hit them

[mild prawn]

bet ty for all the tips🥹

[boreal knoll]

The timing your alphas to their roll can be tricky at first so don’t be too hard on yourself if it doesn’t work the first few times

Just stay calm and wait for their roll to be over so you can grab them before they roll again

[mild prawn]

is tamaki good in tourneys and scrims in ur opinion?

[boreal knoll]

I’d say he can do well

He’s not a bad character by any means

His main weaknesses are his movement and reliance on 1v1s though

Which in tournaments you’re not gonna be in a fight without the enemy’s teammates close by 99% of the time

So your team has to back you up good

[mild prawn]

he’s good for disrupting building comps yea?

[boreal knoll]

Kinda

His cannon CAN do that, but it leaves him wide open to getting hit for it if the enemy realizes what he's doing and reacts fast enough

Tamaki CAN roll out of grounded gamma but if you react slow you'll be eating damage

[mild prawn]

I feel like they should add a small dmg reduction to his gamma

similar to yfos or sum

[boreal knoll]

Maybe but I don't think he needs it personally

[vale mica]

Fs, as long as the player plays well.

[mild prawn]

he takes a lotta cd optimisation icl

[vale mica]

agreed, that's why fixer is so good on him

[plush radish]

Bruh

[vale mica]

Anyone else notice the melee change? It moves you based on where you’re looking rather than the usual forward motion that it was.

[wraith cradle]

Whats the best tuning option for tamaki ?

[vale mica]

Embrittlement fixer

Aka the fancy skin for his festival outfit

[wraith cradle]

Fixer is that good on him ? I would have said to include Red Kendo and Shinso no?

[wraith cradle]

If i use fixer what should i boost ? Hes beta ? Or gamma ?

[vale mica]

Fixer covers any issues with reload speed.

[vale mica]

Beta for movement

[wraith cradle]

Okaay tyy

[vale mica]

Embrittlement allows for easier guardbreaks, perfect for solo fights while still being useful against multiple enemies

[vale mica]

The combo i invented allows you to guardbreak without the use of a beta, but it’s reliant on aim and your special.

Grab, melee (for embrittlement), special, alpha.

[wraith cradle]

Ohh do you have a clip ?

[vale mica]

Got some on my TikTok

Gimme a sec

[wraith cradle]

The alpha is a normal or the you hit with the spike ??

At the end*

[vale mica]

https://www.tiktok.com/t/ZP8bvhGej/

Third clip

Against the all might

[wraith cradle]

Okay lemme check

Ohh okay i see

[plush radish]

This is adorable

Btw this Tamaki lowkey scared me

Bro was running at me from 3 different angles

[wraith cradle]

Also do you know the lvl up path ? Beta max first ?

[plush radish]

I think he does alpha 4, beta 9, and gamma along the way

[vale mica]

I go for beta, I want movement asap. The combo guardbreaks at any level so ion worry about early alpha levels, tbh most of the game tou won’t need it maxed out. I get my gamma to four so I can use it as a wall sorta, like a deadmanland thibg.

Helps to catch wakeups too

Thats situational tho

[wraith cradle]

Do you have a screenshot of your tuning ? I want to put the same to deal the same damage as you

[vale mica]

Not atm

In game

Sorry

[boreal knoll]

Trance Blow sucks on Tamaki

It kills his combos and his combos are his damage

[wraith cradle]

Yeah i figured it out

[wraith cradle]

No problem take your time

[boreal knoll]

I feel like damage would be better personally

[boreal knoll]

There's a level order graphic in the Tamaki guide if you scroll down https://ultrarumble.com/guide/character/2600

[wraith cradle]

Damn tyy

[vale mica]

My other build

[sonic loom]

U should run wr over accel to some his mobility issues

Accel is kinda ehh on tamaki especially at lvl 10

[vale mica]

I manage my beta enough ion need wallrunner for movement

[sonic loom]

Alr if u say so

[vale mica]

Whats your usual build?

[sonic loom]

Wr fixer

[vale mica]

Solid

[sonic loom]

Id run embritt wr if he had a build for it

[boreal knoll]

Do you not have enough Assault Endeavor/Assault Overhaul data?

[brittle saddle]

Oh I see you now!!! Like you gotta back up a little after SPA so they're within sights of your alpha

[vale mica]

Yep, patience and aiming

[brittle saddle]

He has no nose

[plush radish]

I just got confirmation

That the devs only speak Spanish

☝️ 🧍‍♀️

[brittle saddle]

I don't speak spanish

[plush radish]

@vale mica “What do you want Amajiki- I mean Villain!”

[vale mica]

“To go home.”

[plush radish]

“WHAT?”

[vale mica]

Here

Wait wrong place

[runic sluice]

does his melee cancel still work ? or is it too much down power ?keep downing the enemy after the second M1

[boreal knoll]

What tunings are you using on him

[runic sluice]

disregard

i was grabbing first

😅

[boreal knoll]

Oh what combo were you trynna do

[runic sluice]

i was trying to grab then M1 > M2 > M3 cancel into M1 > M2 > M3

cant grab first

[boreal knoll]

Oh yeah the grab is too much down power if you wanna do that

[runic sluice]

embrittlement better than acceleration ?

[boreal knoll]

Way better

Acceleration doesn’t really do much for Tamaki

He has better options than Acceleration like Embrittlement which is his best tune by far

[runic sluice]

went accel fixer cyber hero costume then as i started using him realized embrittlement or iron fist would be way better

too late now though

no resources

[boreal knoll]

Iron Fist is mid just use Embrittlement

[modest ibex]

agree

[desert sundial]

Level path?

[plush radish]

There's a level order path in the Tamaki guide if you scroll down https://ultrarumble.com/guide/character/2600

[desert sundial]

Didn't know he had one ty

[plush radish]

Yw!

[vale mica]

Putting in work

[vale mica]

Rapid is easier to deal with, i wouldnt call it unfavorable

[plush radish]

That’s Mirio..!

[vale mica]

Yeah…?

[plush radish]

Peak

[fathom mason]

Hes my bb

[young compass]

do you remember who you were testing against?

[young compass]

works vs both I'm pretty sure

[young compass]

I've been trying, I've been really trying

this was the best I found https://medal.tv/games/my-hero-ultra-rumble/clips/mr7oAEaWsPVq-O2QF?invite=cr-MSw0anEsNTQyMzcyMzU4&v=8

and it requires accel to be triggered before the combo, plus idk if alpha pull to delayed m2 is even true anymore or maybe hp exclusive

also this was the other combo I've been mentioning every now and then, still not sure how practical it is over just alpha grab air melee beta but it might exist
https://medal.tv/games/my-hero-ultra-rumble/clips/mr7pHUiuX5iVQA9_P?invite=cr-MSxjTEUsNTQyMzcyMzU4&v=6

I know you already know but that's like optimal execution ish ig

also weak to having them actionable for a very short time before the special action

[mild prawn]

is alpha grab into air melee beta true on gp or just hp?

@fathom mason are any of tamakis moves affected by ping

[fathom mason]

His alpha for sure

[mild prawn]

his grab alpha or tap alpha?

and how does it affect it

[fathom mason]

i dont know abt grab i just think i hit tippers on alpha when i shouldnt sometimes

[boreal knoll]

I do not sorry

[boreal knoll]

Use tap alpha after that

Grab alpha only does 30 damage untuned and is only really used to start combos/extend certain combos

Tap alpha can be used as a combo ender like in this case

[young compass]

both

[vale mica]

Never manage to hit them myself, hard when half the characters are designed to always be moving

[vale mica]

Gamma, most ppl already know that tho. Turn speed is faster at 60 fps

[mild prawn]

is tap alpha grab alpha into beta a good combo ?

[mild prawn]

is his alpha grab affected by ping ?

[boreal knoll]

If you wanna do a simple but effective combo from a grab alpha I'd be grab -> melee 1 -> melee 2 -> beta

It's short, simple, and does good damage especially with Embrittlement

[vale mica]

Yeah, not directly I don’t think, more like, it’s harder to hit people who have faster internet.

[mild prawn]

is doing gamma while they’re hard knocked worth it ?

[vale mica]

Yes, guarantees them out of the fight

[mild prawn]

so i can catch their wake up

[boreal knoll]

99% of the time no because the person will just use their i-frames to get out of the line of fire and punish you

[mild prawn]

so it’s 50/50 pretty much ?

[vale mica]

That too, most panic and use special or whatever movement they have, easy damage

Easy punish*

[boreal knoll]

If you notice that they panic and mash on wake up then maybe? Otherwise I wouldn't do it

Just remember to use gamma while you're on the ground so you can roll out of it

[vale mica]

Gamma is a no man’s land, make sure to use That, helps keep people away from yourself and/or your Teamates if their down for example

[boreal knoll]

Yeah I like to use gamma on my teammates while they're in a fight so they can run away

And using gamma to finish off downed targets is also really nice

[vale mica]

Or when they’re healing, big enough to cover their body. Easier for them to hide

[boreal knoll]

True

[vale mica]

Agreed

Very satisfying

[mild prawn]

what characters are hard nos to fight

[boreal knoll]

Kirishima can be a pain because you can't really combo him at all when he's in Hardening

Tokoyami makes it really hard to get in with his gamma in the way and he can overwhelm Tamaki easily in Black Ankh

Tech Dabi can be annoying if he sits in gamma and lets his betas tank alphas but he isn't the worst match-up by far as you can grab him before gamma comes out if you're fast enough

Rapid Bakugo can be really hard to hit especially with your grab

That's probably not all of them just the characters that I can think of off the top of my head

[mild prawn]

is kurogiri a bad match up ?

[boreal knoll]

I wouldn't say so no

He's just annoying

[young compass]

did they mess up the fix somehow?

[young compass]

does alpha grab beta work vs hardened kiri?

grab into 500dp might be fine still

but nothing remotely fancy for sure

[boreal knoll]

I don't see why it wouldn't

[young compass]

same xD

[vale mica]

“Fix” and were talking about the dev’s 🫩

[plush radish]

Here Tamaki’s eat this edit

[fathom mason]

Im drooling

Who said that

[plush radish]

OMIII

[boreal knoll]

Finally...

This was my last build for reference

[vale mica]

Twin what is that tuning

Might as well ditch fixer atp

Not using it well at all

[boreal knoll]

What do you mean? It creases his damage on everything

[vale mica]

Fixer doubles whatever is underneath it, you have kendo and All might, tamaki does not need melee damage, you could have out present mic on the right for special reload speed, overhaul is fine, Kaminari isnt a bad pick tho.

And for hero rapid, Mirio would be better imo

[boreal knoll]

• Why would Tamaki not want more damage on melee if he hits a lot of melees?
• I used Kendo there for the overall beta damage increase since beta is his main combo ender on both HP and GP
• Reload tunes in general are not very good. I'm not sacrificing damage on one of Tamaki's main sources of damage for a not good reload tune

[vale mica]

@junior tartan

[vale mica]

Gimme a sec to respond accordingly

[vale mica]

Melee damage is not Bad, but it should not be a priority compared to reload speed or damage on other moves.
Beta damage is already powerful enough you don’t really NEED to improve it, and since it’s the only strike slot, kendo is beat out by present mic anyday.
Reload tuning on Tamaki SPECIFICALLY is very important, optimizing it does nothing but improve your performance.

[boreal knoll]

• I can see the argument for replacing All Might with Bakugo for gamma damage, but I like the extra damage on my consistent melee hits and not extra damage on my rare big hits
• I don't see why I wouldn't improve the damage of a move that's already powerful? That's like saying to not buff Strike Bakugo's gamma damage because it already does enough damage
• I've never had a noticeable difference with reload tunings. 2% (value of a level 3 reload tune) of for example, 8 seconds, is not a very big number. 2% of melee damage, which is like 20 something without tuning I forget the exact number is much bigger and IS noticeable.

[onyx halo]

heres the guide for all you tamaki playershttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O9jQnE6Kd6c&t=193s

[onyx halo]

You're ignoring the fact that kendo gives beta attack AND beta defense

[latent sparrow]

The fit uses fixer great wdym
A fixer fit can be good for a fit without 3+ reds underneath.

Red kendo can be argued for many different slots mainly the hp atks but ultimately theres nothing wrong with red kendo under fixer

Endevor and denki are both just good and self explanatory

Overhaul is great to have, gamma dmg isn't that useful but i wouldn't say its even close to a fixer waste

Rapid AM is normally a fixer waste but for tamaki specifically its def not since he regularly gets good value from his melees in a lot of situations.

Genuinely the only suggestions i could make to imprive the fit is
Kendo - mic/star and stripe (all 3 are abt equal viability)
Rapid AM - rapidgo but this is also personal preference and both are abt equal

[vale mica]

Which is good yes, but that can be on the other side. It’s better to have mic on the fixer side.

When it comes to rapid might, the defense IS good, but rapid Mirio was right there, he offers dash speed, which is always welcome, and an alpha reload speed bonus, can’t go wrong with that.

[onyx halo]

read the other messages bud

[vale mica]

I did lol

Let’s look at it again, give me a sec.

Embrittlement-Fixer, amazing choices for Tamaki.
Support Hado is a fire pick.
Present Mic is a fire pick for Tamaki (mainly the special reload +), BUT, it would be better used on the fixer side imo.
Cant go wrong with hp attack power +
Shigaraki is a good pick here, I personally chose all for one for tbe special reload +, BUT, you can’t really make the wrong choice here.
Twice is the best pick here, beta reload + is just better than gamma reload +

Kendo is a great pick, damage and defense in one, but present mic should be in its place imo.
Cant go wrong with assault endeavor, i swap between him and young Afo.
Cant go wrong with any tech choices rlly.
Overhaul is the best pick for the fixer side imo.
Rapid might is useful, but I believe having Mirio in his place would serve tamaki better.
Thank you for your time.

[brittle saddle]

You guys, last night I was fighting this goated Tamaki player, he was putting in the work on me with alpha pull into SPA into normal alpha. I was Techjire. And it was a pretty even fight

I beat him but his Dabi won overall so ggs to that team

I was pretty low tho, the way he was fighting made it look like he wasn't too low at all

[boreal knoll]

He could killed you in two interactions if he was doing other Tamaki combos

Grab -> Special Action -> alpha is pretty eh as a combo

[onyx halo]

Sometimes false confidence can win fights, if you think they have more hp you might be more influenced to disengage which will give them the upper hand by chasing you instead of you two just clashing

[brittle saddle]

He was also pushing me with his beta

Tho I think one of the things he might have regretted that round was using gamma, tho he had a Fairy on his team

So he needed to take advantage of her buff at every chance

[sonic loom]

Reload tunings are extremely irrelevent only making it faster by a few hundreths of a second

For example a sa reload tuning on momo at lvl 4 only reduces her 3 minute cooldown by about 4.5 seconds

[vale mica]

Grab, melee (preferably if ya have embrittlement), special, alpha. Thats the combo i usually use, it revolves around my special, that’s why I optimize its reload

[sonic loom]

Comparatively to a move with like a 6 second cooldown on beta

Each tuning would only give u an extra .15 seconds

[vale mica]

Special is an eight second cooldown, double what it was at release

[sonic loom]

Dmg tunings are almost always more relevent

[vale mica]

Dunno, it’s served me well this whole time

[sonic loom]

Are well then u would be saving .2 seconds on a lvl 4 slot

[vale mica]

Maybe I’ll make another set using the new outfit, they have an tech assault (villain) setup that I could try out the damage stuff on

[sonic loom]

And more specifically for mirio the alpha reload speed is def not needed

Since tamaki rarely runs out of alphas since he has 8 of them

And with a 1 second cooldown

[vale mica]

Well you’re using tech Kaminari for alpha reload

[sonic loom]

U would be saving like a tenth of a second

[vale mica]

Damage too tho

[sonic loom]

No thats for the alpha dmg

Not for the reload

[vale mica]

Ab

Ah*

[sonic loom]

The reload being there is cool but id run it with or without the reload

[vale mica]

I’ll grab my tuning and send it in a bit, get you’re opinion, if you’re willing

[sonic loom]

Yea sure

[vale mica]

I’m definitely not an expert when it comes to tuning, I’ve just done what made sense to me, I use my special often, so I want it asap, yk?

[sonic loom]

Yea thats fair

But reload tunings are actually very unimpactful

[vale mica]

I tend to go between Nejire and someone else often

[vale mica]

Insane

[plush radish]

Leave the poor hado alone

[sonic loom]

Id recommend endeavor over yafo, denki over techjire, rapidgo/rapid might/rapidku over mirio, endeavor over dabi, and supportjire over kuro

[vale mica]

This?

Surprised you didn’t tell me to swap out mic

Now I’m curious ab this other outfit

I did swap tech shiggy for tech Afo tho

[plush radish]

Tama donate some special tunnin

Slots

[vale mica]

No

[sonic loom]

Yea

[sonic loom]

Mic is a good tuning for tamaki but mostly cuz of the hp attack

[brittle saddle]

Hmm maybe I should have tried going for this outfit

[sonic loom]

Depending on how u play him beta attack and hp attack are usually interchangeable

[brittle saddle]

Im just happy I went for his festival outfit when he first came out

[sonic loom]

That's better i just forgot to say that

[vale mica]

Glad I managed to get his fit before it left

[brittle saddle]

Ggs

[vale mica]

Yeah, HP over HP Defence

[sonic loom]

That build for the most part is worse then festival fancy

I think tamaki does a good amount of dmg already to where u dont need both fixer and embritt

So I just go wr over embritt

[vale mica]

Pretty much yeah, might put something else other than fixer

[vale mica]

Got a build for that too lol

[brittle saddle]

I've also come to realize I gotta use the tipper more on his alpha

It feels super satisfying to land it

Like it hits differently than most other alphas if you get what I mean

[vale mica]

Hard to hit, needs a buff imo

[brittle saddle]

Like I feel a response and I don't have Rumble on my controller

[vale mica]

Interesting…

[boreal knoll]

Using gamma during that fight is crazy that's an easy way to get beamed by you

[vale mica]

Agreed, gamma leaves you exposed like a MF

[brittle saddle]

The circle was small and he was outside a cave area and he thought I was inside the cave as well

I was 1v1ing him on the surface while my other 2 teammates were taking on his 2 teammates

On the inside of the cave

[brittle saddle]

He only recognized his fault as soon as I began landing my 100+ DMG alphas

[boreal knoll]

Sounds about right

[plush radish]

Caught lacking

[boreal knoll]

At least with my build grab -> melee 1 -> melee 2 -> melee 3 -> alpha does slightly more damage (I did my combo on the Ochaco to the right)

[vale mica]

Hard to hit on console, or at least Mine, won’t let me alpha after melee three, that’s why I melee cancel instead

[boreal knoll]

Yeah you use a melee cancel to hit the alpha

[vale mica]

Oh

[boreal knoll]

It's 3 hits of melee 3 and then you melee cancel that into alpha

[vale mica]

🤦‍♂️

Bruh

[plush radish]

THAT OUTFIT LOOKS CUTE!!!

[boreal knoll]

He NEEDS a UA uniform in the base game

[plush radish]

There’s this outfit of him as a kitty!

[boreal knoll]

I think I've seen that one as well that one is cute

[brittle saddle]

There's a beach outfit for him as well

[brittle saddle]

But yeah I agree, why did they give Mirio and Hado one but not Tamaki?

[boreal knoll]

To be fair those two have been out way longer

[brittle saddle]

Maybe they meant to make up for it with his Casual Style outfit

[plush radish]

KITTYYYY!!!!

[boreal knoll]

I think there's a whole collection for the Big 3

[plush radish]

WHAT

SHOW?

[plush radish]

Emjay

WE NEED IT

[brittle saddle]

Oh there he is

[plush radish]

I NEED IT

[brittle saddle]

I meant to grab Mirio

[plush radish]

I NEED THIS

[brittle saddle]

I wish I could use Nejire mods, but apparently it breaks Fairy beta

Which could technically be counted as cheating

[boreal knoll]

Yeah it makes the bubble from her beta not follow Nejire for everyone else

[brittle saddle]

If you don't have it set up correctly, it also detatches from yourself

But yeah, if you ever see a Hado that has a detatched beta, they are using a skin mod which is goated, but there needs to be a way where we can fix the visual bug

[junior tartan]

What?

Oh, right

[vale mica]

Moved down to 720p, been putting up 5k a game since

5k+ I mean

[boreal knoll]

How come the lower resolution makes it easier for you?

[vale mica]

Less latency which is what kills my gameplay

[boreal knoll]

Ah okay

I think I play on 1920 or 2160 I forget

[vale mica]

Y’all aint ready for this.

[vale mica]

My console is old lol

[plush radish]

Wha is that

[vale mica]

Oh

You don’t know?

Don’t worry about it lol

[plush radish]

Oh

[vale mica]

https://www.tiktok.com/t/ZP8g6NhMw/

I’m the best Tamaki player, Case closed.
(Jk lol, just did this for fun)

[brittle saddle]

What did I just watch

[vale mica]

Peak. (He makes ironic Mha videos, 2020 era stuff, all for shoots and giggles)

[desert sundial]

Gang

[boreal knoll]

https://tenor.com/view/absolute-cinema-my-deer-friend-nokotan-noko-shikanoko-gif-15425025920445911308

[brittle saddle]

You know what that's fair

[vale mica]

lol

[brittle saddle]

So yeah I've been trying to play Tamaki every so often and sometimes I feel like my combos just don't work, is it dependent on where my cursor is?

I also feel like I have trouble disengaging in a fight, though I did learn my best shot is to beta someone and use the buff from the invisibility to run and hide, is that a good idea or should I try something else?

[young compass]

if you could be more specific regarding what combos that might help, cause different combos typically fail for different reasons

[brittle saddle]

Im mostly struggling to get some of his basic combos down, alpha pull -> melee -> beta

Sometimes his beta just launches me away from the enemy

[boreal knoll]

No that’s a good way to escape

Just make sure it’s safe to get the beta

[plush radish]

I’m canon Tamaki

Literally…

[boreal knoll]

That’s just tracking being wack

Just make sure they’re in the center of your crosshair when you beta if possible

[boreal knoll]

You’re about to make bro’s gamma

[plush radish]

Man

Might as well

Ggg

[brittle saddle]

Bro is about to indeed make Tamaki gamma

[vale mica]

Tracking is broken, either too strong or complete wack, no In between. Got a clip where it completely 180’d me into a froppy that alpha’d to get above me, layed her ahh out lol.

[boreal knoll]

REAL

The tracking is too good for it’s own good sometimes

[brittle saddle]

Yeah I thought it needed a nerf but I think it just needs to be more consistent (I don't need it's damage touched at all anymore)

[vale mica]

Really needs the tracking gone, better to use it as a movement skill anyway, just make the attack harder to dodge and add inertia. Simple fix.

(Trackings removed so the hit box should be bigger.)

[young compass]

I'm guessing you just mean one or two melees, in which case beta should always hit if you are looking at them

tracking is stronger the more you look at the target, funnily enough against moving targets you sometimes have to purposefully look away a bit

(like in alpha air melee beta)

[brittle saddle]

Actually do his combos work better with or without aim assist?

Maybe that might be my problem

[vale mica]

I run aim assist but I’m on an old Gen console, imo it doesn’t hurt to have it, but idk about higher fps’s

[brittle saddle]

That might also be something now that I think about it

[young compass]

I don't think aim assist is bad for him, only combo that maybe is negatively impacted would be alpha air melee beta I think, and even then aiming at them might be fine, aiming slightly down is just a bit more optimal/consistent (along with waiting a bit before pressing beta)

[vale mica]

Most grabs make beta almost impossible to miss though, too close to Tamaki, tracking and aim assist shouldnt affect that

[vale mica]

Also have you ever managed to hit “special, air melee, alpha”? Been trying to get consistent results with it, but it’s harder to hit than most conbos

[boreal knoll]

Air melee knocks them a certain way consistently so just learn that and you'll be good

I've never had a major problem hitting it after some practice

[vale mica]

It’s hitting the air melee Thats the small issue, sometimes the special just doesn’t put them where I need them to be

Pretty much an rng issue

[boreal knoll]

Oh you said Special Action I thought you were talking about grabbing in the air sorry

[vale mica]

Oh nah

[boreal knoll]

I would just do Special Action -> grab -> beta at that point

[vale mica]

Special - air melee - alpha

I want to learn the combo anyway, mever know when it may come in handy

[boreal knoll]

I'm assuming you've tried holding forward after Special Action already?

[vale mica]

Better to be a Swiss Army knife than a regular ahh knife

Yeah

I mainly wait for them to catch up to me for the melee, since I get above them after the special

[boreal knoll]

Have you tried mashing melee after holding forward?

[vale mica]

Spamming air melee causes Tamaki to get sent plummeting, a preventive measure for anyone air stalling with his melee

[boreal knoll]

I mean after Special Action

Because you can't air melee until after the Special Action so I thought maybe you can melee the first frame possible to consistently get the air melee off

[vale mica]

I see what you mean, I’ll give it a shot later

[brittle saddle]

So in order to stay in the air longer it's safer to not spam air melee?

[vale mica]

Better to “beta, melee once or twice, beta again, then melee until you cant anymore, or gamma”

[brittle saddle]

I'll keep that in mind for when I play him again. I recently reached Ace so I want to learn him a lot more now.

[young compass]

mainly yeah, think only with air melee into beta it could matter

[vale mica]

Congrats

[vale mica]

Yeah

Alr I gtg

[young compass]

and for that combo I think you need at least accel to make it true if not more, so I haven't played around with special into air melee lines too much

[young compass]

iirc with a speed buff that was a consistent way to do it

haven't tested too much without cause I feel like they'd definitely wake up

[boreal knoll]

They probably will but might as well check maybe probably perhaps

[latent sparrow]

Lowkey shocked you still play the game

[junior tartan]

Likewise

I got to ace that season btw. When you didn’t believe in me. ✌️

[onyx halo]

ooh lore

[brittle saddle]

Guys I had a pretty good Tamaki game, and by that I mean I didn't have a game where I did nothing and died a bunch, baby steps I can say

[vale mica]

I felt that earlier

[brittle saddle]

Here was the round I was talking about earlier

[brittle saddle]

Also thank you for this advice, it helped me a lot in that match

[vale mica]

Oh really? I’m glad it did.

[vale mica]

Blue Deku has become a nightmare recently. While I haven’t struggled usually, I’ve noticed the melee loop has returned, whenever they did the latest patch it somehow brought it back.

[young compass]

nah it was at most gone for a season, like maybe gone for most of season 14 but it's been back since season 15 afaik

[vale mica]

Hadn’t noticed it till now.

[young compass]

luckily it's a bit harder and he's less popular now, but I'm afraid he picked up some popularity again thanks to the grounded air alpha change

and/or nerfs of other characters

[brittle saddle]

I thought it was always still a thing as long as you were on HP

Like he can legit loop you even on full HP unless a teammate GP team heals

[vale mica]

Idk, it’s been a long time since I’ve been hit with it

[brittle saddle]

His rerun banner comes out soon

I think when Tech Bakugo comes out

[young compass]

this season it's even possible against gp from what I heard 😭

[young compass]

oh no

[vale mica]

Oh no

[brittle saddle]

In retrospect I'm happy YAFO came first

[vale mica]

He needs a nerf, he feels stronger for some reason

It’s annoying

[brittle saddle]

Yeah he's gotten more annoying lately, but at least he's manageable

A lot more people caught on to his tech

[vale mica]

I can grab, not everyone else can tho

[brittle saddle]

Oh you mean OFA?

[vale mica]

AFO

His gamma is canceled by my grab

[brittle saddle]

Yeah his gamma is annoying

It also has a hitbox to his sides as well

[vale mica]

Same with OFA Deku’s gamma if he tries to activate it

[vale mica]

Free damage tbh

[brittle saddle]

I tried SPA Surging past his huge gamma AoE but I was hit on his side and was pulled back into it

(I died)

[vale mica]

Yeah it’s deadly, but it’s easy grab for me

[brittle saddle]

Thx for the tip

For me, if he's not paying attention to me, it's free alpha damage for me

[vale mica]

Best to hit gamma on it

If you’re not ab to Gey hit

Get*

[young compass]

I remember labbing anti yafo/dp reduction character combos but I don't remember if I ever posted them here >.<
and/or if some used accel (iirc not unless you want special into beta finish)

[boreal knoll]

It is

[boreal knoll]

I thought Young All For One came out after One For All Deku

[brittle saddle]

YAFO's rerun banner came out at the beginning of this season

With his new outfit

[boreal knoll]

Oooh that’s what you mean

My bad 😭

[vale mica]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1156399603189563442/1444866907449593856/IMG_1151.gif

Time for another day of ranked

[plush radish]

You’ll live Amajiki.

[brittle saddle]

Doesn't that feel real

[vale mica]

Does anyone know if acceleration does anything for beta’s inertia?

[mild prawn]

@boreal knoll why does his beta have weird tracking sometimes

[boreal knoll]

I wish I could tell you

[mild prawn]

like I try alpha into air melee beta sometimes I just go forward and miss

[boreal knoll]

Are you trynna do that while you're in the air?

Because if you're trying to do that on the ground he has much better options

[mild prawn]

yea

most of the time I just go for alpha into air melee tipper alpha

[boreal knoll]

I do the alpha as well because it's true. Do you consistently get tipper alpha when you go for that?

[mild prawn]

when im in the air

[boreal knoll]

If you want to try this combo though wait until the first frame you go into his idle animation and then use beta

If you use it before that then beta tracks weird

[mild prawn]

yea most of the time because someone taught me how to consistently hit tipper with that

[mild prawn]

oh

bet ty

[boreal knoll]

I only get the regular alpha how do you consistently get tippers with it?

[boreal knoll]

How come you don’t get the tipper sound effect

And I feel like I do the same thing but no tipper 😭

[boreal knoll]

I don't think that's you getting tipper I think that's the damage from your air melee and alpha's damage numbers being combined

[plush radish]

Why does he have a 37

[boreal knoll]

That's the amount of people that play him

[onyx halo]

lol

[brittle saddle]

Does anybody else know why Tamaki goes in the direction of the camera when he air melees?

[plush radish]

@vale mica

He has a 37 on his back

[vale mica]

Yes

[boreal knoll]

My guess is because he doesn't use it for movement that often like with Assault Deku for example so the devs decided give him more control over where it lands for combos

There is the beta -> air melee -> beta -> air melee thing but that entire process takes like 2 years and leaves him very open

[young compass]

also a couple characters have that with their air melees, iida and nagant being the first two to come to mind

[brittle saddle]

Idk what I did here but I had a really good unranked match where I actually was fighting as if I knew how to play him

Then again it's unranked but this round was pretty close as well, we almost won but we all kinda choked

[vale mica]

Unranked sometimes is worse than ranked lol

GG’s, great progress

[brittle saddle]

Thx, I feel like I should get the basics with him down first before I try out his combo strings (plus I still feel like I need to learn how to use his aimed alpha better, and then how to follow up since melee into beta is a bit inconsistent for me)

[vale mica]

For the alpha, it’s best for me to pull them in, melee them once, wait a small second before melee’ing again then I use my beta.

Waiting a sec let’s the melee reset, and each melee does different knockdown power, canceling lets me hit a beta while getting two melee’s in.

[brittle saddle]

Oh so melee jab with him. I gotcha

What happens if I'm in the air?

[vale mica]

Air melee then beta, I’d rather alpha if Im in the air but Ydy

I usually take my foe into the air with special, followed by an alpha, but that CAN be subbed out for a beta, not a guaranteed hit tho

[brittle saddle]

Gotcha thx man 👍

[vale mica]

Np

[boreal knoll]

You can do Special Action -> alpha grab -> beta for some nice damage if you manage to take someone up with Special Action

[young compass]

if you wanna do air melee beta in the air, make sure to delay the beta quite a bit, the longer you delay it without waiting so long that they can recover, the more likely the beta is to hit

[lucid whale]

Hey tamaki mains, I'm new to this since I just got her yesterday, and I'd like to know if you can help me get good with tamaki, with things like tips, levels, tuning or something please

https://tenor.com/view/bhna-mha-my-hero-academia-tamaki-amajiki-gif-13969521479706453254

[boreal knoll]

https://ultrarumble.com/guide/character/2600

[lucid whale]

What is the best tuning for the casual skin?

https://tenor.com/view/jeff-marvel-rivals-land-shark-look-up-tongue-out-gif-6693635282429313506

[boreal knoll]

The guide I sent above has a tuning section if you scroll down but if you want my personal suggestion the villain style with Embrittlement and Revenge Support is super nice

Gives you way more damage with Embrittlement with Revenge Support able to help you survive some things you normally wouldn't have

The default with Wall Runner and Crushing PU Charge is another strong choice as Strike Hero tunings in general are pretty versatile

Combat can run Fixer really nicely with the villain blue able to run GP Sucker and Card Duplication which are both good tunes

Fancy can run Revenge Support with Hyper Regeneration if you want a full survivability build

Dangerous can run Wall Runner and Space Hop if you love your mobility

Basically the only bad one is Heat because he doesn't use villain green special tunings well

[lucid whale]

Understood, thank you very much

[vale mica]

Tamaki is a reactionary fighter, you will almost always be the response to a situation rather than being the cause of it. This is because of his lack of a versatile long range option as well as not enough movement to chase ppl for long. As Tamaki you need to know what to do against every character in the game, young Afo is a great example, since his alpha buff he’s been a problem for other ppl, for Tamaki Hes much easier, anytime they try their gamma pull them out of it into a lovely combo they won’t want to receive again

When pulling people in, you have a few options of what to do as well as tuning that supports it. Grab into melee is the most common, i run embrittlement or acceleration to make good use of the melee, another common one is grab special, while you CAN try to hit a air melee on them whip both of you’re in the air, it’s harder to hit for most, ususally special is followed by a alpha or beta, alpha has more consistent hits and leaves beta open for other use’s. If you’re unsure of tuning, fixer is reliable always, I recently learned that reload tuning (unless a special skill) is not aa good as it should be, so instead it’s best to optimize something else, alpha damage is a solid overall pick

Skins are important too, if you want embrittlement-fixer you’d need his fancy-festival outfit, for acceleration-fixer that can be on the new skin or the casual skin, one of the styles. Classic skin doesnt have that much tbh, there is tuning on one of them for embrittlement-acceleration, which I heard is great for ppl who don’t have any skins for Tamaki

[vale mica]

[fathom mason]

Tamaki gyatt

[fathom mason]

Yay

[vale mica]

Got the win surprisingly, L game tho

[plush radish]

OMI?

[vale mica]

Yes

[fathom mason]

My boy..

[plush radish]

Omi…

No..

Bad

[runic bramble]

👎

[vale mica]

Speak thine wisdom, founder

[fathom mason]

MAKE EVERYONE WHOM GO DOWN EAT THE CANNON

[plush radish]

Here’s some suneater

[vale mica]

He has spoken.

[brittle saddle]

Had a pretty decent ranked game, got down a silly Nagant, twice

[brittle saddle]

I love his red cloak

[potent girder]

Any tips for Tamaki 🥹✌️? I'm like- an amateur at him, but want to get better

[boreal knoll]

https://ultrarumble.com/guide/character/2600

[vale mica]

Aura

[vale mica]

Tamaki needs rebalanced,
Alpha is good for chip damage but the pinpoint damage is nearly impossible to hit in battle since people are moving a lot.
Beta has heavy damage and a broken tracking mechanic, it either makes me 360 into a froppy that was behind me or it sends me right past them , too inconsistent. Not to mention that it’s his only directional movement skill, and it lacks in that department, it doesn’t get you far enough whatsoever.
His gamma is his biggest flaw, it leaves him exposed like a sore thumb. You have no armor but a character like Young AFO gets super armor for his gamma? Make it make sense, plus the cancel has a one second animation so canceling won’t save you in most situations.
His special’s reload time it double than when tamaki was released, anyone who plays Tamaki felt the difference and it’s devastating, it’s a combo and escape tool, it had no reason to be nerfed at all.
His special tuning skill is also cheeks, needs replaced altogether imo.
Tamaki is unfortunately one of the worst strike characters in the game, Compared to Lady Nagant, Shinso, Star and Stripes, and even strike Shigaraki, Tamaki has practically NO movement and NO way to really keep up with the meta.

@fathom mason

[hot bone]

I've seen enough nerf tech dabi

[fathom mason]

Yeah unfortunately he is the everyman

Which means mid

The. You say this and someone will say hes broken thats why i lowkey dont take this server seriously ☠️

[vale mica]

Ion take the community too seriously In general

[fathom mason]

I was happy he wasnt broken since he released but the nerf to his mobility was nuts

also he was supposed to have three betas i never forgot that

[vale mica]

And the fact that he needs to land to reload more than half his arsenal

[vale mica]

Bruh i would love that, we need the movement

I want inertia over tbat tho

[fathom mason]

I would love anything but more aoe slop

Like ANYTHING ELSE

this game went from shooter to just press a button and win

[vale mica]

Or that weird thing they’re doing for assault ochaco’s beta, Ts is annoying ash

[fathom mason]

Just lame atp

[fathom mason]

They just cater to any of the top characters from the show

☠️

Like oh my god ths why i hate anime style games its so gimmicky but this game was so unquestionably different in terms of vibes and they still are doing the same thing just taking forever to make stuff happen lol

[vale mica]

Fr, and tamaki has always been nerfed. They never looked into the fact that he can use plants or other ppl’s quirks. It’s annoying bc tamaki is cool ash

The writers and the devs hate our boy

[fathom mason]

Fr man i think a lot of characters are not what they couldve been

So i guess thats why theyre relying on quirksets

Which i hate

☠️

They dont come out very often and then they keep giving the same characters new stuff ???

Like dont no body wanna play deku all the time

[vale mica]

And it makes tamaki look bad too, most ppl don’t think “the writers are the reason why he didn’t do this” they think “tamaki is lazy because he didn’t work on his plant & quirk manifestation”

[fathom mason]

I think Tamaki was op and they didnt know what to do w him

😭

So they made him mid

Theres a good few characters that were op in the anime that were like irrelevant side characters or characters with little screen time like the manga dude

Bro can just make WORDS IRL???? MASSIVE???

Like holy moly hero stories always got plot holes

[hot bone]

Literal demon lord known for combining quirks: can only steal 1 quirk at a time

Random high schooler: can mix quirks as he wants

[boreal knoll]

I do agree that unaimed alpha specifically needs a buff but grab alpha should take 2 alpha charges and he loses one charge so he only has 3 grab attempts

Beta I just want a damage and tracking nerf but if it becomes basically impossible to hit without the busted tracking then give him the tracking back

Gamma I think is fine where it is. It's a super good tool that deserves the end lag. Plus if you use it on the ground there is no end lag since you can just roll out of it whenever you want

I think is Special Action is also fine where it is. Having it at 4 seconds gives him too much verticality

His Special Tuning skill is amazing. You can make ANY Ability Card last an ungodly amount of time. A super long 20% damage increase, healing for who knows how long, defense increase for who knows how long, you can basically make immortal build Shiggy on anyone as long as you're willing to level up Ability Cards

Strike Shiggy is way worse than Tamaki and I think Tamaki beats out Shinso, but he does fall behind a good amount of the roster yeah

[boreal knoll]

If mobility is your issue then you can use Wall Runner since his Special Action and beta start reloading when you touch a wall as well

[boreal knoll]

Inertia would be nice

[boreal knoll]

I do kinda wish he did more than use seafood for 4 of his attacks (alpha, beta, ground and air melee) but oh well

[brittle saddle]

Yeah I understand about Tamaki, admittingly he wasn't even that much of a nuisance back when he first came out. But nowadays in this meta, I feel like he's harder to play than Techjire. She has a versatile kit that helps her stall longer and survive slightly longer in this meta