#pvp

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safe heart
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It's gray and purple

lime light
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randomly demo is bis gamer spec

stray sigil
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demo

lime light
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25% ms

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perma 5k dps

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without casting

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immortal

stray sigil
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if demo does 5k dps in 2s

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ur doing some wrong

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when i face demos i do like 3x their dmg

lime light
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i dont play 2s

stray sigil
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3s

lime light
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both brackets are dogshit

haughty compass
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Incap tyrant mass root

lime light
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u can only chose what disease u wanna get

haughty compass
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Lol around the corner

stray sigil
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id rather play 2s than 3s

lime light
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i would rather not play

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but my switch is charging

stray sigil
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what game u playing on switch

lime light
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zelda

haughty compass
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3s such a slot machine

viscid remnant
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Elpatron on retail

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Tragic

stray sigil
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dogshit bracket

lime light
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pre sanc the bolt hoj go

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still ded

stray sigil
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what are u playing

lime light
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ret arms rsham

stray sigil
lime light
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but i have 66k hp

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the other ret had 89k

stray sigil
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outzugzugd

lime light
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idk i come to enemy healer wit h50% move speed

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and kick him

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cuz he cant see

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iam comming

stray sigil
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finished the week at 2350 @clear pulsar

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ez

clear pulsar
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If you just do all 19s tonight

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You can get 2500 before the week is over

stray sigil
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na i just get it insta tmorrow anyways

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i have like 5 instances of no fort

grand mesa
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Easy

safe heart
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I'm 2442 rn

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I'm sad I didn't time that 20 tho
I've never had the dungeon portal before
But the first boss took like fucking 6 minutes to kill or some shit

stray sigil
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bruh

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/cast [nomod, @cursor] Bonedust Brew(Necrolord): [mod:alt, @focus] Bonedust Brew(Necrolord)****

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this casts at ur focus

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without having to aim

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lmfoa

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9.2.5 bug

clear pulsar
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We took 6 mins to kill 1st boss of Gambit... as 4 healers 1 tank.

clear pulsar
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And I reported it with steps to reproduce

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I knew people would find out but

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Works with any ground targeted spell and you don't actually need that much macro

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Never miss a trap or spear of bastion again lmao

viscid remnant
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My reaction to this information

grand mesa
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Huh

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Wait

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Huh?????

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This game is so bad

safe heart
grand mesa
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Oh the tree

safe heart
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The tree

grand mesa
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Lulz yea

stray sigil
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debating if i do the 2.4 grind or not

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maybe i just do the 3k grind on pve

flat imp
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Is feral 4set affected by Mastery?

stray sigil
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yes

flat imp
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not sure if its worth gemming mastery over versa

stray sigil
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when i got full mas i got from like 55 to 69 mas

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and lose what 5% vers

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its more dam going full mas

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and 2.5% dmg reduc

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is like

grand mesa
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U can do 3k in 2 weekends np

stray sigil
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ye but 2.4 in 3s

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prob takes like 3 q sesh

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lol

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if i had friends to q with

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which i have none

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so that is the problem with the pvp side

grand mesa
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Lakez and face

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Triple druid

stray sigil
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lake is quitting

surreal heron
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again

grand mesa
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Lakez will be back

stray sigil
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she did say quitting after this ssn of tbc

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and face is

grand mesa
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They always come back 😈

stray sigil
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he my boy but

safe heart
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I'm at like 1k games and still at 2.2

stray sigil
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i feel like jungle is pretty free wins atm but mayb im wrong

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obv not super high cr

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but to 2.4 if i had teammates prob very easily doable

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prob is finding ppl this late in the ssn too

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im 0 cr still havent qd much on the drood

safe heart
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Yeah I kinda just recently like this past week found a solid team

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Got stuck at 2k pugging

stray sigil
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u went from 2k to 2.2 this week ?

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pog

haughty compass
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Give me general jungle strat for feral

safe heart
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Yeah like I found 2 dudes who are down for comms and gained 200 rating insta lol

stray sigil
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trap maim send dmg

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lol

haughty compass
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I’m a 2s lord

stray sigil
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jungle is super scripted

haughty compass
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Ok that’s what I do rofl

stray sigil
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and straight forward

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fear/clone out of the trap

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not much to it lol

safe heart
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Yeah the hardest part of jungle is carrying the whole team on your back while they blame all the losses on you

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Besides that it's free dubs

stray sigil
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ye cuz

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the healer will be ccd 99% of the game

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so its on u to peel

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and the hunter is a dmg bot really with no defensives

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so ur job outside of gos is kinda to make sure ur hunter dopesnt flop

haughty compass
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Ok so I’m on target.

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We ran some last night, felt rusty

stray sigil
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will depend with what spec ur hunter is i suppose

haughty compass
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2s this season much easier

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Lol

stray sigil
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surv can go for traps on his own

haughty compass
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Yea he bm

stray sigil
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bm u gotta set him up

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1 go he intims

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the other u bash

haughty compass
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I’ve been doing bash, and then I made frenzy kt

stray sigil
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the other he intims

haughty compass
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Maim*

stray sigil
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was gonna start a bit more srsly this week

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but im sorta worried about the amount of hunters

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and what that will do to my mental state

haughty compass
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Just surv

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Most bm below 2.2 are brain dead

stray sigil
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i feel like surv is a lot easier to deal with unironically in 2s

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they dont even play mending anymore

safe heart
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Yeah if a hunter apps to my group and mentions his 2s rating I decline

stray sigil
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and thorns is a good button

haughty compass
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We hovering 2.2 atm. Maybe I’m bad against surv but I almost always lose

stray sigil
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bm u just die to pets while kiting the gos

safe heart
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Surv is really hard if your priest can't cross him

stray sigil
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pre ran trap? doesnt matter

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na i mean going surv

haughty compass
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Most bm don’t understand their feign timing, and just die after

grand mesa
safe heart
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Yeah we started killing hunters actually

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In jungle mirrors

haughty compass
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DH feels hard to me in 2s

stray sigil
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ye if hunter has no trinket

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he kinda dead

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but i like going feral in jungle mirrors

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stops more shit

haughty compass
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I’ve had to start going Druid against dh / rdu

safe heart
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We started going hunter because it reduces their trap rate to like 1/10 lol

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Like the second We train hunter, they forget to ever push trap

haughty compass
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Yea, they can die in a triple stun pretty easy

safe heart
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I'll never go surv tho

stray sigil
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u train a feral hell just bear form simulator

safe heart
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If it's surv jungle no way

stray sigil
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and run around like a chicken with no head

safe heart
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Gotta know the art of counter go

haughty compass
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Yea I’m still working on that

stray sigil
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u know what the best defensive is

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more dam

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#legendary

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cant kill u if they ded

haughty compass
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Full send or let the game end

stray sigil
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i miss bfa for that

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i used to tell my healer

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just keep me up

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and i would double wall for the mastery buff

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and just kill ppl insta

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every game

safe heart
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I think that's my biggest problem
I'll stop doing damage too much just to peel heal or extend cc

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I'll lose alot because I give up on the kill and try to start cloning traps and stuff

stray sigil
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clone is kinda hard to give advice for

haughty compass
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I spend too much time cloning for sure

safe heart
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I don't think I'm bad at cloning I just think I give up on the kill too quickly

stray sigil
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i just clone when its obvious its the time to clone

safe heart
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Like I don't trust my own dam

stray sigil
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i dont clone that that much

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very situational cc

safe heart
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Yeah for sure

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I'm only fake glad but I don't think I'm bad

haughty compass
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I watched axtins vod, he clones like 1 time in 5 games

grand mesa
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I’ve never nailed cloning low HP

haughty compass
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Dill just pumps 8k dps a game

stray sigil
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ye i mean in jungle

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outside of the zerk go

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ur dmg as a feral

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completely irrelevant tbh

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its the hunter carrying that

stray sigil
haughty compass
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Yea frenzy seems to be ok too

stray sigil
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think i saw him play skin leggo for a whole q sesh

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just to show u how little our dmg matetrs

haughty compass
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Kinda why I like kyrian if it weren’t so squishy. The dam is satisfying

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On goes

stray sigil
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playing kyrian vs outlaw rmp

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sounds

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not good

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think kyrian was fine at the start of xpac

haughty compass
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Nah it’s not. I want it to be, but Necro just better

stray sigil
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cuz nobody had hp or gear

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now everyone is a tank

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so bites completely meaningless

haughty compass
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Flesh c has saved me a few times too

stray sigil
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ye we have it easier to bait kicks with clone and get a full fleshyc

safe heart
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Most of the time I'm just cloning literally to bait kicks and if they let me have it then cool

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But I regularly see ferals out dmg me in mirrors

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And I think I try to do the most instead of mongo

stray sigil
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obviously depends on game state

safe heart
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I need a fuji review

stray sigil
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but mayb ur spending too much time in bear

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or playing scared

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but like theres a million things that could have happened for u to have lower dam

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and like details graph is so pointless

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if ur gos are cleaner than them u will kill

safe heart
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Yeah one time I kinda went off on my teammates cuz they're whining about my dmg and I'm like "iight hold up I can't bait kicks, heal the hunter, clone all their goes , double stun for the hunter and be kill target AND top the meter"

misty shuttle
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folks on necro opener why not use tiger's fury for rake?

stray sigil
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u do

safe heart
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You should

misty shuttle
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huh

stray sigil
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tf rake zerk swam ff maim ig

safe heart
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^^

misty shuttle
stray sigil
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if u wanna full send

misty shuttle
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.<

safe heart
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That opener is wrong

stray sigil
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that looks like the pre 4p opener

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maybe

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idk

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the order is hella wrong

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wtf is this

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LOL

safe heart
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Yeah that's not right at all

misty shuttle
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I mean I was suspicious

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perhaps someone could update

safe heart
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Is that wowhead or something

misty shuttle
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yes

stray sigil
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he ff's then zerks

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? ? ? ?

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then what 1p rip

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im confused

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thats dogshit

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tf rake zerk swarm ff maim

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big opener

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big dam

misty shuttle
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what is 'ig'

stray sigil
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ig = i guess

misty shuttle
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ahh

haughty compass
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Guardian jungle

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Bfa vibes

tiny oar
stray sigil
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faramar

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lmfao

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is feral too hard for that guy or

misty shuttle
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so Fuji with that opener, no rip or moonfire?

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just do that after or?

safe heart
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He likes to theory craft is all I think

stray sigil
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can do after ye

haughty compass
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Maim for the double stun, let em sit your dam longer

stray sigil
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cuz moofnire and rip is 2 globals

misty shuttle
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yeh

stray sigil
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u wont get that inside ur opener i think

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will get a bit funky

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but u can press during the maim

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so its fine

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the only thing that mnatters in that big send opener

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is ur ff and zerk

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that can solo ppl if they dont react

haughty compass
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Swarm sickle and ff while they are stunned is like, win condition.

misty shuttle
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I was trying tf->rip->swarm->ff->maim->moonfire->mighty bash

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I wanna be able to burst down without ff ideally

haughty compass
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Need bash for hunter trap

stray sigil
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u mean tf rake rip

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or

misty shuttle
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I mean

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zerk

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not ff

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yes

stray sigil
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tf rip swarm zerk maim mf bash

misty shuttle
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tf->rake->rip->swarm->ff->maim->moonfire->mighty bash

stray sigil
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can do it that way ig

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thats no zerk opener?

misty shuttle
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ye

stray sigil
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are we talking for 2s or 3s

safe heart
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I don't zerk opener vs rets and survs

misty shuttle
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uuuh

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solo xD

stray sigil
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solo i would just send the zerk instead of rip every time

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for duels ?

misty shuttle
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nah just skirmish arenas or random / epic bgs

haughty compass
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If you catch a rogue or something with zerk and ff in that opener they will just die

stray sigil
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u can do it like that if u like it

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but zerk ff kinda means

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ull get trinket and a defensive

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if u just ff

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maybe u get just trinket

haughty compass
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Against paladins I’ll save zerk for second ff

stray sigil
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or maybe no trinket at all depending on the class

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im ok with zerking right away vs palas

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cuz if they bop

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its like a 5min cd for a 2min cd

misty shuttle
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can u usually survive that long with no healer?

stray sigil
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depends what ur playing with in 2s for example

haughty compass
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Feral the kiting class in the game

stray sigil
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u can def live 2mins

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if u dont panic and use stuff when u dont have to

misty shuttle
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I'm also thinking that circle is better for this sort of burst than draught

stray sigil
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ye

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circle is the burst leggo

safe heart
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Bop isn't 5 minutes ?

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Bubble you mean ?

haughty compass
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Short ass 5 minutes for bop, because i have to wait for 2 bops and a bubble usually 🤣

stray sigil
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bop is 5min

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pretty sure isnt it

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ye its 5mins

stray sigil
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do they even run that shit anymore

safe heart
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I thought bop was like 30s wtf ?

stray sigil
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arent they kinda capped on the pvp talents

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forbearance is 30s ye

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bop is 5min cd

safe heart
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Like you mean blessing of protection, not bubble right

stray sigil
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ye

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bubble gonna be 5min unless they dont play the parry wall thing

safe heart
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Wtffff

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Well fuck it I'm sending zerk then

misty shuttle
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does circle work with frenzied regen>

safe heart
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No

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It's % based

stray sigil
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its a bit wonky cuz it is a periodic effect

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but na

safe heart
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It scales with like bm trinket tho

misty shuttle
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shame

safe heart
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Fuji

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What trinket do you play in jungle mirror

stray sigil
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bm

safe heart
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Yeah I kinda like bm for that

stray sigil
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no other options really unless u think u can be greedy and take badge/insignia

safe heart
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Mostly I play defensive trinkets (bm or aegis) but sometimes into like thug or jungle mirrors I play insignia

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Thug seems to go my hunter normally

stray sigil
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i play like emblem 99% of the games

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just a nice oh shit button to have

misty shuttle
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any of u ever play the reduce cc by 20% one?

safe heart
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If I did heaps more damage with insignia id play it more but it seems minor
I think defensive is the play

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I dont

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Vs some comps it's prob dece

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Like vs wizards I could see it

stray sigil
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i got a iqd recently

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i might try rele iqd if some comps are aids cc

grand mesa
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what's average CDR on incarn for feral?

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how much time do you reasonable shave off

safe heart
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We don't play incarn but you can shave off like a minuteish

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Assuming you're doing dam and not camping bear

stray sigil
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ye zerk gonna be around 2mins

haughty compass
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Just in a weird state where all I wanna do is Q. No homies ever want to play in this meta

safe heart
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cant say i blame them tbh

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gets harder to perservere

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but

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against

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all

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odds

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we

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press on

fleet sonnet
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for balance in rbgs, what are my last 3 talents?

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incarn, twin moons, solstice?

queen copper
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Fury Also good to spin nodes. Some people run drift over TM though, both are good options

toxic kayak
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Thinking of switching from resto to feral for 2v2. What would be the best double dps combos?

signal arrow
toxic kayak
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And in both cases necro would be better or is convoke necessary?

viscid remnant
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Hi

signal arrow
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Or one could go necro and one Kyrian that would be interesting aswell for the bonus vers

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If you choose to play double feral I mean ^^

forest kite
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Hi. New-ish resto druid (stuck around 1.4k-1.5k) and I'm having trouble against fury warrior and ret paladins in particular in 2s. When my teammate gets trained by these teams (I play with whoever signs up in LFG so lots of different classes), my 'burst healing' is Iron Bark > Swiftmend > NS > Regrowth > Rejuv and my teammate usually still dies before Swiftmend comes up again. Am I missing something?

signal arrow
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Are you using Cenarion Ward at all?

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And do you apply all hots before you do Ironbark in the situation you described? you want to have all hots on the target rolling at pretty much all time. If nothing is happening (low dmg not many CD's being committed) you ALWAYS want to have Lifebloom Rejuvenation, Germination and Adaptive swarm on the target

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And when you see them committing dmg you Cenarion Ward, Swiftmend

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If the target is still dying you Ironbark

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And then regrowth with soul of the forest

forest kite
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Ah, my usual plan is to put hots and CW up right after the gate opens before I go into stealth but sometimes if they come charging at us I don't have time for that

signal arrow
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What I usually do is on their opener I come out of stealth, Overgrowth, Adaptive swarm, Cenarion Ward Swiftmend

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And then you keep the reju's / Lifebloom rolling

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Overgrowth is great cause it's only 1 global and most teams go full Zug Zug in the opener anyways so it's not like you're "wasting" it

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If that makes sense

forest kite
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It does. Thanks for the tips will definitely try that next game!

signal arrow
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Oh and when you overgrowth remember you can still reju 1 more time for germination

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Since Overgrowth doesn't put Germination up

signal arrow
forest kite
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Thanks Sora! 🙂

signal arrow
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Just 1 more thing (in case you're not already doing it), always wait for the cenarion ward to get activated before you swiftmend so you are able to extend it's duration

forest kite
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Hmm when activated you mean when the green 'bubble' disappears?

signal arrow
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Yeah or you can look at the duration of the buff. Initially it's a 30 second buff and when it gets activated it becomes a heal over time effect with either 6 or 8 seconds I don't remember

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The 30 second buff is not extendable but the activated one is

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If you extend it well Cenarion Ward should be near the top of your healing contribution

forest kite
signal arrow
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You're welcome both of you! Good luck out there 😁

gilded pilot
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As a druid your main purpose is to make the life of any warrior a living hell

signal arrow
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I wouldn't go for entangling roots vs Fury / Ret though unless ret is LOS of his mate vs double dps every global can be the difference between life and death especially in that rating range when your teammate doesn't kite / and or use defensives

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But yeah definetly use your CC during their burst

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Just don't forget to heal while you're chaining CC that's a classic mistake in that rating range.

gilded pilot
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Sure need to maintain ward and rejuv with ur legendary

grand mesa
grand mesa
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U doing DSR?

grand mesa
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Yeah if they drift out of technical step and the 1 mins I’m sure it’s sad

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I found dancer quite fun tho and the most wow-like with procs

signal arrow
foggy portal
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Feral/Guardian - at what point should i stop gemming for Vers?

signal arrow
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When you feel like you don't need more survivability and want to opt for more dmg. There is no clear breakpoint it depends on playstyle a lot

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Atleast AFAIK

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But I personally don't go over 30% on most classes if I can avoid it

foggy portal
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im at 33%

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gonna grab a mastery gem for helm

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thanks

grand mesa
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That’s kinda why I didn’t bother much with ff14. Would spend too much time trying to play it like a main game and rebuilding a network to raid with. Too much work I’d rather run laps in oribos instead lol

stray sigil
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prob with ff14 is

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if ur not a pver/rper

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game feels wack a bit

haughty compass
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Not into the weeb shit. Have at it

stray sigil
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weeb is cool

haughty compass
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Yea sure

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Just not for me

grand mesa
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i don't like the server tick rate

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it updates ur position every 3 seconds or so

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so if u don't dodge an aoe in the first half of the animation you'll get hit even if ur out of it when the aoe actually explodes

clear pulsar
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20 tickrate?

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Or well

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0.3 tickrate lol

tropic schooner
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oh wait

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FF

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im dumb

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wow has sth like that too

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but a lot less

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and depending how you move

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which is really weird

fair mirage
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Wow updates your position slower when moving forward, I think

amber snow
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How much dam can guardian feral aff convoke do vs feral spec convoke?

stray sigil
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if u dont play hotw cheese

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0 dam

safe heart
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id guess like 0

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@clear pulsar is phial good

stray sigil
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@safe heart bro i just had a

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90% damp game in 2s

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vs rdru demo lock

clear pulsar
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Vault?

safe heart
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yeah 278

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right now i use soleah + badge

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apparently phial sims like 10dps higher but boring cape without phial is 30 dps higher

clear pulsar
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1 trinket is prob always gonna be one of the big on-use stat ones

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Sigil or badge or iqd

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Raid has good trinkets for m+

safe heart
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do you know if soleah is good for rdruid?

clear pulsar
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Phial is pretty good but got nerfed and is just same thing as the passive stat ones

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Like soleah

safe heart
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@stray sigil did you just line him for 15 minutes

stray sigil
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kinda ye

safe heart
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guess ill take this cape then

clear pulsar
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Yeah soleah is one of the better trinkets, not giga bis for damage but generally one of the most used ones

stray sigil
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he was trying to port and like get me to cross nagrand

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to his port

safe heart
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atleast its dece cape for resto too

clear pulsar
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Phial isnt rly exciting either tho tbh

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I mean its just passive dot proc

safe heart
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Monkey brain over value trinket

grand mesa
safe heart
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Idek what an reservoir is so I lucked up

stone breach
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Trinket that drops from Dausegne in the raid for caster DPS

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It's the best healer trinket in m+ because it does dumb damage

grand mesa
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@safe heart

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really overtuned trinket for healers

safe heart
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Can I buy one for a wow token

grand mesa
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disintegration halo

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its also dog for actual caster dps so not many folks want it

safe heart
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So it's a caster dps trinket but rdruids take them

grand mesa
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i think other healers want them to

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too

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but not sure

stone breach
grand mesa
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at the very least pug heroics if possible, the 265 will still be amazing

safe heart
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If I spend a wow token on a carry for that , do I have good odds

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Or is it like

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Against
All
Odds

grand mesa
#

it's personal loot so ur funnels/you either get it or u don't

#

i don't like those odds personally but i'm not very lucky

safe heart
#

I have good luck no cap

#

I might try it if I'm not terrible at rdruid

grand mesa
#

really fun healer

#

i did a few keys on my holy priest alt just to do something with guildies and i was falling asleep

#

@stray sigil how do i look

stray sigil
#

nice tabard

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but male nelf > female

grand mesa
#

no way dude im lithe and pretty

stray sigil
#

lookin like a monk

safe heart
#

What tabard is that

stray sigil
#

competitors

#

was for beijing olympics iirc

#

way back

safe heart
#

So you're telling me I just gotta run 100 meters for that tabard

grand mesa
#

88 mph so u can go back in time to 2008

safe heart
#

How do I convince a fury warrior that he should play feral war instead of ret war

#

Should I poach a low cr one do he becomes indebted to me

teal hinge
#

He likes those freedoms

grand mesa
#

i do that for keys all the time

safe heart
#

I feel like it's the only way

#

Cuz like fury can't hardly lose so I mean

grand mesa
#

then when they get that wandering eye you put it down real quick

safe heart
#

I'm honestly so pissed because my brother could play unholy dk or fury warrior but he won't pvp

grand mesa
#

can u blame him

safe heart
#

If you're an unholy dk or warrior, there is 0% reason you shouldn't pvp imo

#

You literally just treat the enemy healer like the first pull of a dungeon and you get 2200

clear pulsar
#

Compared to what the caster dps want

#

Cuz like 800 haste for a mage does a lot more damage than 800 haste for a healer

safe heart
#

Yeah that makes sense

clear pulsar
#

Same is true for stuff like PF ooze, NW satchel, tazavesh mailemental

#

Which are good healer dmg trinkets

#

Not hot for dps specs

safe heart
#

Yeah I got that divisible ooze thing and was hype but apparently it sucks

#

Man if I go resto druid in mythicals and I get that discernable halo or whatever and I already have long division goo thing
I'll do the most Dam with circle

#

And I can play necro with sudden ambush

clear pulsar
#

Those things are all very bis and all but you still gotta play more good

#

And halo doesnt drop

safe heart
#

Do I really have to play good if polynomial divisor goo npc is pumping

#

And then I just pop the halolololol

grand mesa
#

yuppp

#

actually the shitter u play the more those trinkets do for u damage breakdown wise lmao

haughty compass
#

I’m a simple man. I want to snatch 300 lbs, and be a feral glad.

mellow granite
wild kestrel
#

Hey all, I'm really struggling with targeting in arena. I want to easily arena target 1-2-3, but I'm totally out of keybinds. I bought a fancy mmo mouse with 12 keys, but it's really hard to click the right ones. Any recommendations? What do you use?

grand mesa
#

i use top row

#

for a1/2/3

#

and second row

#

for p1/2/3

wild kestrel
#

What are they bound to?

#

Think I can do this without a crazy mmo mouse?

grand mesa
#

plenty of folks do

#

but i couldn't wrap my brain around commonly suggested methods

mellow granite
#

big hands go a long way

grand mesa
#

they do scroll wheel

#

or function keys

#

lots of diff ways

#

i have my top row bound to 6,7,8 then second row is 8,9,0

#

it's jhust buttons i don't use

wild kestrel
#

Then how do you use them?

#

That's farrrr to the right

grand mesa
#

top row, 1,2,3 bound onto mouse as 6,7,8 is arena 1,2,3

#

of MMO mouse

wild kestrel
#

Oh. Yeah.

#

So you DO use an mmo mouse

grand mesa
#

was that not clear?

#

lol yeah i do

wild kestrel
#

No, I'm slow

#

Which one? I have the Steelseries Aerox 9, but the 4 button rows throw me off

#

I keep clicking the wrong shit

grand mesa
#

i use aerox 9

#

used the schimtar too

wild kestrel
#

I'm not leveraging all of those -- no

#

But most

#

I find that 7 is too far to reach

#

awds is for movement

#

c is character, b is bag

#

10 years of that keybind is tough to reset

#

It's more targetting with the aerox with 3 rows of 4 that's tough

#

Other than targetting I'm pretty good on keybinds

#

Maybe I just need to get used to the aerox

grand mesa
#

I love the aerox

#

But admittedly Corsair schmitar was way more convenient witb side button layout

#

I’m also a peripheral junkie and have like like all the mice lmao so if you have any questions or opinions on stuff I’ve tried them all

grand mesa
#

tiny asian man hands here

#

i need the mmo mouse for targetting lmao

clear pulsar
#

Am midget, dont have mmo mouse

#

Worst of both worlds

grand mesa
#

traj

#

atleast u pump as feral i saw u

clear pulsar
#

That was also tragic I dont even know why but

#

I've done like 2k more than that on that boss

#

Maybe just timing with an extra berserk idk

wild kestrel
#

Anyone know what the minimum is to get the socket from the chest per week?

#

It's like 6 of the items

grand mesa
#

3 vaults out of 9

#

u get 2 per vault

wild kestrel
#

Does it scale up? Or just cap at 3

grand mesa
#

caps @ 3

wild kestrel
#

Roger

#

I'm at the point where I'm just going for sockets lol

grand mesa
#

i socketed pvp first now im doing raid lol

wild kestrel
#

Yeah that's the plan

#

Some rsham hit me for 50% of my health with some infusion 3s cast, anyone know what that is?

grand mesa
#

infusion 3s cast?

delicate marsh
#

Fae tranfusion

#

Night fae cov ability

lime light
#

Welcome in my channel, u are chosen ones

#

No one else is that special, to Play this game anymore

tiny oar
#

Ty el patron

#

One last push in tbc then I retire 4ev

stray sigil
viscid remnant
#

👎

tiny oar
stray sigil
tardy hare
#

I just click or tab my targets

#

L2p

viscid remnant
#

real

cold lark
#

For Guardian which racial is slightly better between Kul Trian vs Highmountain?

#

Like Brush it Off vs Rugged Tenacity

haughty compass
#

Tony rockin that kyrian kitty yesterday. Love to see it

safe rose
#

is there an up to date guide somewhere for ferals pvp?

lime light
#

Now do what they told ya

obtuse bramble
#

dadamm damm

amber snow
grand mesa
#

Say it ain’t so lake

tiny oar
grand mesa
#

😦

tropic schooner
grand mesa
#

there's gonna be nothing here but feral talk

tropic schooner
#

no worries you are back in no time

grand mesa
#

^ and true

#

especially when 10.0 wow is saved

safe heart
#

Wtb fury warrior

tiny oar
viscid remnant
#

TRUUUUUUUUUUUUE

safe heart
#

Kitty cleave to glad when

narrow moon
#

what is best combo to feral druid

safe heart
#

Left hook right upper cut

clear pulsar
grand mesa
#

Trueeee

#

Btw solo shuffle is great can’t wait for ranked

fair mirage
#

healing shuffle is the most bizarre thing

grand mesa
#

Wonder how they handle a player losing 4 rounds and just leaving cause he already lost rating

clear pulsar
#

Yesterday there was a spriest that did literally twice anyone else's dmg every single round

#

And I took a round off him by playing giga aggro draught on his face last round of the game

#

Felt like a gos

#

God

grand mesa
#

Lmao

#

Also can we not drink in shuffle?

fair mirage
#

You can drink in shuffle.

grand mesa
#

For some reason I felt like I couldn’t I’ll have to pay attention better

fair mirage
#

You just have to be super careful as to when in terms of cds because you just know your teammates won't see yuo going for a sip and peel/kite accordingly.

#

It can be a good way to bait cds from enemy team though because it makes their weakauras go off

#

HONK HONK DRINK DRINK HONK

haughty compass
#

I really think solo shuffle has potential. But gear gaps ruin it

#

Some 50k hp comes in and is just bait

grand mesa
#

ya

#

the competitive games are really fun

wild kestrel
#

Any tips on where to put my Unity leggo now that I unlocked the higher version?

#

Gloves or shoulders? A non-verse set piece?

amber snow
#

check out murlok.io to see what top players did

ocean basin
#

Probably a dumb question but do you not play wicked claws with jungle since hunter pet has MS?

safe heart
#

Right

#

Some games your hunter might play tank pet or something tho and you should play claws for those tho

#

But one of you should always play ms

wild kestrel
#

BM/Resto feels really good if they know what they're doing

clear pulsar
#

Bm hardly has to know what theyre doing

safe heart
#

Most of them don't

#

Ever took a 2.2 2s hunter and tries to play literally anything in 3s

lime light
#

blue hat

#

blue socks

#

blue shoes

#

too cool

dusky crane
#

How do I get Into pvp

#

Every time I’ve tried I get madge and quit

livid wasp
#

will jungle be viable next season

fair mirage
#

It's pretty excellent rn

haughty compass
#

Top 5 comp prob

lime light
#

barelly viable in Zecheys eyes

safe heart
#

Do you guys feel like ret / war counters jungle

lime light
#

it always did

safe heart
#

I feel like it counters harder now tho

#

My main team broke up over it lol

fair mirage
#

jungle eats rm, rm eats retwarr, retwarr eats jungle

lime light
#

nothing eats rm

stray sigil
#

?

fair mirage
#

i mean most jungles should

stray sigil
#

jungle does not eat rm anymore

#

lol

#

no

#

sub rm is like 50/50 if not 60/40 for rm

lime light
#

jungle is good comp, but u should never lose as rm

stray sigil
#

outlaw rm should never lose

#

to jungle

#

period

fair mirage
#

oh yeah but outlaw rm shouldn't lose to anything

lime light
#

rm should never lose to anyting

#

even if they play

#

arcane assa disc

fair mirage
#

ye but most of them don't have hands

stray sigil
#

u dont need hands

#

the classes play themselves

#

even if u play sub

#

u dont eneed to do anything anymore

fair mirage
#

yeah big go off dr

stray sigil
#

u have infinite energy

fair mirage
#

idk how people bungle it

stray sigil
#

cuz of conduits

#

u have slice up on ur gos dont even need to put it up before

#

u dont have to worry about combo points

#

cuz echoing

#

baffles me how ppl still say sub is a hard spec

#

everytime i hear or see it a piece of me dies

fair mirage
#

rm is so tedious to play idk how people can stand it

#

maybe it's just the cr

#

especially in 2s it's legit the most boring shit

stray sigil
#

rm is like

#

playuing a m+

#

u do the same strat every game

lime light
#

85% of the sub rogues still cant stun lock an orc or a human relent

stray sigil
#

everything is scripted to the T

fair mirage
#

oh yeah sephuz orc ruins their day

lime light
#

meanwhile they still

#

kill without cc

#

KEKW

#

my favorite

stray sigil
#

i swear nobody plays sephuz anyways lol

fair mirage
#

i play it on w/e i can get away with it on

#

makes them more prone to gaping or misusing globals

stray sigil
#

theres so few classes

#

rthat can use it

#

over an actual leggo

fair mirage
#

yeah which is a shame

stray sigil
#

mostly healers

#

or other rogues

haughty compass
#

Yea ret warr stomps jungle, it’s annoying

livid wasp
#

jungle can be good I agree but it has to be played fucking well with voice and stuff

#

why play jungle and put in all the effort when you can invite a ret warrior, clench your keyboard with both your hands and slam it on your forehead to win games

safe heart
#

Yeah the rock paper scissors of rm jungle ret/war doesn't work out when I get ret war 8 / 10 games

lime light
#

but ret woyer gets fucked by rm

#

like super hard

#

and i think turban also fokes ret woyer

#

but not many of those

misty shuttle
#

guardian 2v2 any good?

safe heart
#

So the answer to that question kindof but not really

#

Like you'll beat double dps teams that can't heal but if they have a healer or can run from you then you'll probably lose

#

You need to play sleeper lego so you can get uptime

misty shuttle
#

yeh got it on

#

been kinda fun in RBGs

safe heart
#

So some ppl here say they have climbed past 2k in 2s as guardian but I think ymmv on that drastically

#

Because you basically have 1 long 30s window where you do meaningful damage

misty shuttle
#

I mean

#

highest I've climbed is 1.6k as feral xD

fair mirage
#

That one guy was queuing 🐻 at like 3k with Fury and Hpriest, I think. Haven't seen it in 2s, though.

haughty compass
#

Kyrian guardian or what?

#

Or I guess Venthyr is nasty

viscid remnant
#

If you play guardian might aswell just do yourself and everyone else a favor and uninstall

stray sigil
#

and it was a disc priest too iirc

haughty compass
#

Guardian brainless spec

#

I want to be kyrian feral simp so bad... Necro just better

stray sigil
#

u dont even simp as kyrian feral

#

lul

#

that was last ssn u missed ur chance

grand mesa
#

I don’t see the point to kyrian bear. Atleast be venthyr lol

stray sigil
#

i mean not to flame but watching him play

#

he was an absolute shitter

#

its essentially playing double healer warrior

#

just being an absolute bitch buffing ur warrior with rend and kyrian and shit

viscid remnant
#

Braindmg 100

haughty compass
#

Kyrian feral Chad*

#

I feel like I can rock it as feral mage in 2s maybe

fair mirage
willow estuary
#

Guardian is actually kinda fun in 2s if you just want to piss off melee

signal arrow
#

Guardian Druid in Arenas nootlikethis

mellow granite
#

getting mad dms from solo queue Weirdge

#

some people need to touch grass

clear pulsar
#

Yeah lol

#

I had a destro giga mad at me for missing a m+ timer by 20s

#

For reasons beyond my control ofc

mellow granite
#

some fire mage talking about how good their cc was
dudes was linking rival 2 last season OMEGALUL

grand mesa
#

🤔

mellow granite
grand mesa
safe heart
#

Face I got my ksm last night by not timing a 19 pf

clear pulsar
#

Fwiw I did 7.8k overall and he, a destro lock, did 12k

#

7.8k as rdru

safe heart
#

I'm gunna restart the ksm grind as rdruit

clear pulsar
#

Also we had 4 deaths in the last 40s of dungeon, 2 during last boss, 2 more to the mongo oogaboogas rushing to get the last %

#

Which was basically the 20s we missed timer by

haughty compass
#

I got flamed for being geared in solo q. Like, listen homie You chose to wear greens in here

grand mesa
#

lmao right

safe heart
#

good pvp talents we got here

tiny oar
#

What in the whole entire fuck

grand mesa
#

hrm

tiny oar
#

At least they got wild charge germ right LOL

grand mesa
#

this has to be solo queue adventures

amber snow
#

only time I ever saw someone out dam me was an r1 frost mage we let freecast, den mother/alpha challenge make 2x melee dps work pretty well ... played mostly with monk/dk while climbing.

safe heart
clear pulsar
#

What dg?

safe heart
#

NW

clear pulsar
#

No comment

safe heart
#

fr i thought i did pretty good

clear pulsar
#

You might have, impossible to tell how the run went ofc and tons of things can affect your dps

#

But if the tank did 11k

#

You probably didn't do particularly well to just hit 12k

#

Since NW is moderately pad key

#

Overalls can/should be much higher for everyone in that group

stray sigil
#

i do 25k

#

#legendary

#

#fujidiff

#

#keysareeasierwithoutface:0

#

@clear pulsar

clear pulsar
#

Whats the most dps a diff healer's done in ur keys @stray sigil

clear pulsar
#

Glyph give me a discount on m desausage funnel

#

I did 8.7k carrying feji

#

Without reservoir

#

Coulda been the 10k dream

#

I just play draught and do ethical prio target dam

stray sigil
#

i was top dam

#

by far that dungeob

#

not that its not normal ofc

haughty compass
#

Pve channel now

tiny oar
#

Legendary

#

We were rippers back in formy days

#

How the mighty fall

soft oar
tiny oar
soft oar
tiny oar
vagrant tiger
#

so can someone tell me how to counter rogue sepsis? It's like instant 1 shot at every opener and we keep losing as we keep playing assassination. what am I missing with my partner?

tiny oar
vagrant tiger
#

so I guess i need to just sit in stealth and wait for the rogue opener? instead of cc'ing mage/other

tiny oar
#

Vs rm if they open with it yea dispell ironbark and overgrowth if u can get it off before their go would be ideal

safe heart
#

ez

clear pulsar
#

Lol

clear pulsar
#

Just 1v1 the other healer down and assert dominance

tiny oar
lime light
#

Why f2f

#

Is a simper

#

And also a rat

signal arrow
# soft oar idk my r1 rdruid friend says flourish > germ

I think in 2v2 Germination is much better tbh in 3v3 I could see flourish having a lot of use and I also saw most Rdruids in the AWC (the 2 players that did play Rdruid lmao) went for flourish aswell so it must definely be a good pick

narrow moon
#

where to find mates for 3vs3 arena

tardy hare
#

Lfg in game

cold bay
#

Sorry, I read more carefully and realized you weren’t specifically asking about RM counter play.

I sit in stealth semi-close to partner with incap ready (bear aff) or with rake stun macro (cat aff)

#

Anything to disrupt the opener from 1 button macro rogs

blissful belfry
#

sepsis is a poison you can dispell, if you arent cc'ed it should be your first or 2nd global

vagrant tiger
vagrant tiger
# cold bay I played with an assassin rog on my climb as resto Druid. For RM, I opened on ...

And yeah we do ok against RM if we manage to survive the opener but we had a bad streak last night of playing lots of double dps combos with assassins and it was just stupid. I’d normally counter on the mage during RM opener but the rogue would just cc and one shot before I could get a 2nd or 3rd global. We tried focusing on me waiting for a sepsis dispel and it managed to work one or two times but it felt pretty broken. Not sure if my warrior partner could be doing something better too?

cold bay
#

Does your partner play disarm?

vagrant tiger
#

Depending on the enemy comp yes. I believe he does again rogues. He said the sepsis opener leaves him helpless (cc then immediately popping it or if he trinkets he gets hit again with another)…which is why I think he may need to do something different. He also said he just feels like he struggles against rogues with the evasion every 20 secs + disarms leaving him useless

lime light
#

time to buy ring fit adventure on switch

#

and iam gonna beat u easly Davider

#

@viscid remnant

viscid remnant
amber snow
#

Are there any druid damage spells that have a pvp coefficient? I'm trying to add a pvp mode to simulation craft, currently doesn't handle these.

grand mesa
#

Coefficients? Sim craft? Sir this is #pvp

fair mirage
lime light
#

i have a perfect sim

#

if enemy is dead that means

#

its an upgrade

sour sinew
#

Why is there math in the pvp channel

#

Gross

viscid remnant
#

Sim deeze

amber snow
grand mesa
#

Why would I want to watch a bear

viscid remnant
amber snow
#

because you realize you need to grow as a human and overcome your prejudice?

viscid remnant
#

Youre an oppressed minority guardian player?

grand mesa
#

I need to grow as a human and overcome prejudice because I think bears in arena are dumb? It’s a video game

amber snow
#

so oppressed!

grand mesa
amber snow
#

... a yellow condiment???

viscid remnant
#

hahahaha

#

lmao

#

why cant i say musta rd

#

good 1 thyme

#

literally 1984

grand mesa
#

Actual oppression

viscid remnant
#

hm

stray sigil
#

is mustar

#

a bad word

#

or something

viscid remnant
#

ye

stray sigil
#

real ?

viscid remnant
#

it caused much oppression during world wars

#

mustar d gas

stray sigil
#

? ? ?? ?

viscid remnant
#

TRUUUUUUUUE

stray sigil
#

theres no way

#

its cuz of that'

viscid remnant
#

its not

stray sigil
#

im confused why is it a banned word

viscid remnant
#

bot just filters any msg that has tar d in it

stray sigil
#

ketchup

grand mesa
#

T ard is wardened

stray sigil
#

ah tru

grand mesa
#

Lmao

viscid remnant
#

custar d

stray sigil
#

stupid ass cringe bot

#

fuck u warden

viscid remnant
#

true

#

fuck u warden

grand mesa
#

Fuck u warden

stray sigil
#

i been playing

#

this game

#

v rising or w.e the name is

#

pretty fun game

grand mesa
#

Yeah a lot of guildies played it said it was p good

amber snow
#

puzzle was trying to call me a t ard? but decided to use must ard instead? how bizarre ...

stray sigil
grand mesa
#

I just hate building games lol

stray sigil
#

i wish we had venthyr allied races

#

or draven allied race

grand mesa
#

Reminds me of Minecraft

grand mesa
#

Draven would be sick

#

Much better than how the dracthyr looks

viscid remnant
#

yeah its good u say feji

#

mby i will try it

stray sigil
#

kinda like rust and diablo combined

grand mesa
#

It’s not one big server right

#

You play in your own world and people can connect?

stray sigil
#

u can create a world ye

#

or just join a big one

#

i just make my own to chill and do my own thing

lime light
#

can u skip something from the dogshit chores

#

on new alt

#

=full s2 gear

#

@stray sigil @clear pulsar

livid wasp
#

are you supposed to just kite between goes like crazy against double melee dps in 3s

#

im doing it but it means shit dps

#

and people mald at it

clear pulsar
#

Idk do you have the unity memory unlocked?

#

You just need to farm flux

lime light
#

@clear pulsar ye

#

just asking about 9.2.5 shit

#

if they gave something

#

to make it less pain

#

i still need the whole campaign

#

to unlock the

#

catalyst

#

and shit

grand mesa
#

Not the whole campaign iirc

#

Only other thing new in 9.2.5 is the vendor for renown catchup goes to 60 not 40

lime light
#

lol

#

wait

#

i can click it

#

does it mean i can use it?

grand mesa
#

Should be able to

#

And you should have a ton of charges at this point

viscid remnant
#

el retailtron

lime light
#

ok so whos

#

gonna q 2s

#

till i have full gear

gusty folio
#

Are there any boomy arena streamers

grand mesa
#

Rudar? Supatease when he’s actually playing it. Haven’t watched either in a while so idk what they’re up to

livid wasp
#

why is it so hard to find jungle partners who dont quit after one fuckup

viscid remnant
#

Boomy streamers => reroll warlock or mage idk

livid wasp
#

does any streamer play jungle