pvp

[misty shuttle]

so, in a situation where you can't kite or get away

how do you survive as resto?

all hots up, barkskin up, bear form, still get smashed

I know it was mentioned earlier that the partner needs to peel

but other healers don't seem to need that when I'm hitting them

ok, so that blue circle thing that keeps pulling you back in, how do u get out of that?

nice, I'll try that

yeh I usually dead before it ends

[lusty totem]

Hey, NF dont have access to mastery/vers gear ? :'(

[clear pulsar]

Tune into jah stream

Getrow playing with stunandbung

@small storm heck tank comps

I bet the ww is mike

[stray sigil]

he plays with him every season lol

[misty shuttle]

twitch? what's his actual twitch name?

[stray sigil]

are u new

[clear pulsar]

?

I'm just talking about what is on stream

Wasnt even talking to you dont @ me DICKHEAD

[edgy shale]

wait wtf...wasn't sum1 asking for a macro to go from travel form to stealth... i just tried it cuz i wanted to make sure and u literally just press prowl

and it puts u into cat in staelth

[clear pulsar]

Not if you're flying

Only if you're on the ground already

[dusky oracle]

Is Starburst griefing in RBGs?

Bet.

[small storm]

https://i.imgur.com/pBG8H5g.png

[clear pulsar]

Get in there farm some free puntos

[lime light]

Na player being a weeb

What's new

[tiny oar]

[clear pulsar]

I dont think so, I think it's only sephuz + orc

Sounds like good dam if you proc it reliably with a matching cd

[green valve]

I dk how they ever give up craven

Batshit craxyest leggo ever

[icy void]

Draught for necro feral?

[lime light]

Thanks Glyph

[blissful belfry]

content is done for the week, i just needa find a betetr comp than resto venthyr spriest kyrian to push 2.1

[haughty compass]

Big cock over here

[edgy shale]

thats a good vault

im lazy and only gonna have 4 15s

[blissful belfry]

the hunters in mah guild have lower IQ than dogs

yeah, i aint full clearing hc, that lady too scary, didnt even go to say hellop

[green valve]

You need jesus

[blissful belfry]

I dont need jesus

I need El Patron

🙏

[clear pulsar]

Venthyr boomie + kyrian disc

[blissful belfry]

boomy 2s as venthyr is cancer

[tiny oar]

🙏

Ya venthyr boomie in 2s sounds fucking awful lol

Press incarn homies just hit the pillar for 30s

[clear pulsar]

Venthyr feral

[blissful belfry]

venthyr feral would be less shit perhaps, at least they cant just line u

[tiny oar]

[rigid linden]

if i get r1 this reset

i think the worgen returns

[tiny oar]

🙏

[lime light]

Why not kul tiran

[brazen mantle]

I'm staying Kyrian Balance Druid for arena. Been soulbinding Pelagos, haven't really tried the other two. How do you think the other two soulbinds compare to Pelagos?

[clear pulsar]

Sheesh bros limit only world 11th aotc, method dont even have it yet. They down bad @vestal citrus echo free win again

[blissful belfry]

Again? i dont recall echo having won last tier

[clear pulsar]

Ive no idea who did

[tiny oar]

I fought trill in 2s the other day that lad pumps the fucking meters

[edgy shale]

limit smashed last tier

painsmith is so cringe

i agree that its acutally not that hard, but its definitely stupidly overtuned for a 6th boss on heroic

yeah

[blissful belfry]

painsmith was kinda hard. Fatescribe is aids when you have people in the raid with sub-animal IQ

[clear pulsar]

Painsmith was fun

I like the fight

[edgy shale]

fatescribe was just annoying for me when there's 2 people stnading on the thing and it refuses to switch directions

seems buggy as fuck

[clear pulsar]

The damage intake may be overtuned from the axe throw and from fire stacks on p3 maybe

But i like the fight

[blissful belfry]

You call for a back up to spin the rune counter clockwise and you have none of them comin, after 10s, finally someone comes. you realized he doesnt have the rune buff and cant turn it. wat u doin here monke ook ook

some bazooga tryna spin runes 340 degrees instead of callin for a 2nd dude and spinnin it 20 degrees

[clear pulsar]

The worst part of painsmith is that one of the traps timing isnt consistent with the rest so you have to adjust on the fly, kinda dumb for a heroic 6th boss maybe but still

[blissful belfry]

painsmith is easy as long as your guy who's responsible for popping traps is aware and does it right

[clear pulsar]

The traps + balls inc timing, we couldnt go to the same spots or something

[blissful belfry]

and with an extra healer

[clear pulsar]

Yeah I shoulda swapped resto prob

Necro anyway legit parsed grey

[blissful belfry]

as long as trap arent in melee of the boss or where tank drop his sauce, your trap popper can just pop em before they get blown

[clear pulsar]

Depressing as fuck

Not many ferals killed it and it is literally the worst fight for the dmg profile of necro

[blissful belfry]

On painsmith the other boomy outdps'ed me on details. didnt in log tho. the monke was starfallin the orbs to pad

[edgy shale]

ya, the fight is super good for NF cuz there's so much downtime with the intermissions

u get more convokes

lmao ya, the first day the logs were all boomies at the top and im like wtf is this... but they're just trolling starfalling the spikey balls too funny

[clear pulsar]

And im getting good and timing my swarm extensions

But then intermissions fuck my work up

Take 40s to set up the good shit

Phase out 30s later

Have to start again

[edgy shale]

ya, and its not even like the dots keep ticking for extra dam, he just cleanses it instantly and takes 0 dam

[haughty compass]

I wonder what mythic Sylvanas will look like. What a nightmare

[blissful belfry]

kt hc was pretty easy

wonder how it will turn out in mythic

i guess hc version means nothing at all tho

we can see SLG as reference

[junior plover]

Me

[tiny oar]

[gloomy nova]

Is there some kind of new pyroblast bug or smth? My partner just took a 36k pyro

[hasty remnant]

Yeah it’s called wowisajoke

[junior plover]

[smoky sail]

Fire magus deserve this up big time

[lime light]

Hardcasted pyro

With a proc

U are degan if u let a magus hardcast 4 or 5 sec pyro

[smoky sail]

Vegan u mean?

[gloomy nova]

Hardcasted or not

nothing should hit for 36k

[smoky sail]

Wdym how can theyll stay magus tier then?

[edgy shale]

this is el patron's chat and what he says is gospel. Don't disagree.

[smoky sail]

36k not enuff, with the incoming buff they should get ur entiere hp bar which is what magus should be

[junior plover]

It's kinda like if you didn't kick a convoke for 4s

[gloomy nova]

Not really. Convoke is a channel and all of the damage isnt dealt at once, even if rather fast

[junior plover]

Yeah that's generally an upside for convoke

You kick the pyro cast .1 before it goes through and it does absolutely nothing

You kick convoke at 3.9s...

[tiny oar]

Kick the greater pyro wow what a concept holy shit

Gg ur alive go next game ez

[junior plover]

It's not greater pyro

It's pyro

BIG pyro

But yeah there's a reason any time a pro took that talent in AWC last season it ended up being completely useless

[forest kite]

how do I make a macro to cancel a spell effect on pressing the same button twice?

like first one casts it on me
second one removes it

[junior plover]

You can't

Well

You could do something like this

/cancelaura Frenzied Regeneration
/cast Frenzied Regeneration

And it will generally work like intended save for WHI

[forest kite]

seems to be working good

I'm using it for Demonic Trample on vengeance dh

[rose coral]

Hey do you know if there are discord groups to find people for arenas and rbg?

[tardy hare]

Why on earth would you make an already smaller becoming pool of people even smaller

[tulip falcon]

yeah don't join the rbg one if you're on eu unless you want to see nothing but drama 😆

[tardy hare]

~5 lfg messages per month

And a whole lot a troubled rbg clowns

[clear pulsar]

Oasis eu channels?

[livid wasp]

jungle has never felt so shit as now

[tardy hare]

i swear everything you say at this point zechey

needs to be flipped around

like that spongebob episode

[lime light]

Xd

[tardy hare]

insults are nice and compliments are rude

[lime light]

Feral is weaker than in 9.0 that's for sure, mortal useless in that Comp, and other shit nerfed, but Hunters are on big crack

Rn

So IT evens out

Bm Hunters dmg is unhealable

[livid wasp]

well last season was so much easier than now

cant win shit

[tardy hare]

[livid wasp]

I went 2.5k now losing at 1.6k

[tardy hare]

do you have

even the slightest clue

how a ladder works?

[livid wasp]

its such low rating doesnt matter

mmr is just 1.9k

[tulip falcon]

nah it's called need hota talk to me

cesspit

[tardy hare]

which is basically equal to 2.5 last season with the huge deflation rn

[tulip falcon]

its also still the first week

takes a while for the high people last season to play up

but yea idk i don't really feel much difference with feral

from last season

[tardy hare]

all i feel is

fucking powerful

and ridiculously stronk

[tulip falcon]

yea if anything it does feel better lol

not worse

[tardy hare]

im 2.2 second day

[livid wasp]

not at all

[tardy hare]

not spoken a word to my partner

every previous season first days were a bit sketch

but now we just walk over everyone

no voice

no care

[livid wasp]

well you play with a prot dont you

[tardy hare]

how tf

[tulip falcon]

celestial spirits free rating

[tardy hare]

is that an argument

[tulip falcon]

just wait

[tardy hare]

rofl

[livid wasp]

its broken

[tardy hare]

xd

[livid wasp]

cant lose to anything

[tardy hare]

prot is strong

[tulip falcon]

i feel like more people would play it if it couldn't lose to anything

[tardy hare]

but have you seen

all the other classes out there

lmao

actually delusional

[tulip falcon]

the main problem i had when i queued into a prot was i had no idea what their abilities were as i'd not seen it in ages lmao

[tardy hare]

for every prot paladin

theres like

3 holy paladins

4 discs

5 hpriest

aye

nobody knows wtf to do against prot

but it's literally

just a worse healer

[livid wasp]

youre both using the maledict cheat too right

[tardy hare]

I didn't have the trinket before i reached 2.1

[tulip falcon]

cheat?

[tardy hare]

i've only on a handful of games cause of the trinket

most of them trinket just insta cancelled

i mean

in the one game i had against you

the only cd we used

was bubble and berserk/wings

u didn't do a single thing to stay alive at all

after u didn't kill in opener as double feral y'all just gave up pretty much

[livid wasp]

whats the point

as double dps

when your kill target is a prot pala

youre just delaying the inevitable

[tardy hare]

you literally

got his bubble in opener

and then you int the game

[livid wasp]

yes

and then there are a million more bubbles

30k insta heals

[tardy hare]

he has

1 bop

?

[livid wasp]

the guardian shield thing

[tardy hare]

you press incap roar

and its gone

[lime light]

One is talking about abusing prot in 2s

And other about jungle in 3s

Nice

[livid wasp]

facing fire mage/destro, they just global disc

gg

jungle s-tier

[tardy hare]

[smoky sail]

Dying to bm dmg while he land leteraly 0 trap for a 6m game holy Jesus this class man

And they buff it? Alright fotm button is about to get pressed

[lime light]

Survi isn't better tbh

Just more complex

A lil

[smoky sail]

Surviv is for Chad hunters

[tardy hare]

Surv is for sweaty tryhards

Surv never played by chill player

Only by sweaty gamer

[tiny oar]

Wtf

I love surv :(

[smoky sail]

Ye but I pref die to a sweaty tryharfer than francky bm smashing button failling every trap and still win

Can u believe this guy even fail to trap on his stun smh

[viscid remnant]

machtig

strim

gg

[tiny oar]

We love u machtig

[tiny oar]

Sounds like every bm hunter I've met tbh

[junior plover]

I'm actually kinda excited for NF now even tho I wanna play necro

I wanna believe feral didn't just get nerfed

And will get something busted

[tardy hare]

Not queueing anymore

1 win a week for next weeks

We done till glad push gg

[tiny oar]

[viscid remnant]

[lime light]

lets be honest of the honestest

feral is C tier

bm is barelly B tier

survi same tier as feral

[junior plover]

Why live

[lime light]

if u lose to jungle, u should go and play

the girl with a tail

in FF

[junior plover]

BM barely B tier

[tardy hare]

No time to queue

[junior plover]

B stands for unBeatable

[tardy hare]

Im causing irl drama

[junior plover]

[lime light]

Yep

[tardy hare]

[smoky sail]

Arcane/venthyr drood/affli wl S tier

[lime light]

actually arcane is op

with the execute lego

but only few ppl plays it yet

[smoky sail]

For 2 day

[tiny oar]

U got all the best comments el patron 🙏

[smoky sail]

Til fire magus back

[lime light]

ye

[tiny oar]

Nerf to klepto was real nice

[smoky sail]

Only thing who can unable fire magus to be godtier would be 1 delete polymorph from the spec or 2 blizz dev stop main magus

[tiny oar]

Delete shimmer

Too hot of a take?

[lime light]

profesor WHaaazz

farming mariabanks

in opener

[gilded plover]

how to defeat bm as necro feral in 2s

[lime light]

tunnel healer

and hope for the best

[livid wasp]

how to defeat it as kyrian feral

[smoky sail]

Step 1 switch cov

Step 2 win

[livid wasp]

blizz should just disable covenants in pvp

choosing one shouldnt make such a big difference

[lime light]

no

its easier

u can kill hunter

just never rip

[viscid remnant]

i stole a mob from this guy

hunter player malding

[livid wasp]

I hate people who use the maledict

fucking 3 shackles in one 3s games

[viscid remnant]

bfa 2.0

[junior plover]

Hard agree

But Blink has its own problems

It's not as big a nerf as it'd seem

[junior plover]

[viscid remnant]

He said he is sending an alliance player to kill me so im currently afking in stealth and pooping

[junior plover]

Hit squad deployed

[livid wasp]

I dont know why they had to bring this maledict cancer back

[viscid remnant]

Stop playing

Problem solved

[livid wasp]

nobody likes it but every tryhard has to use it to counter other tryhards

[magic dagger]

Anyone know how to fight BM hunters in 2s as feral?

Can't seem to kill their pet,
Have to rely on getting great or lucky burst on the healer so far

[livid wasp]

/afk

[junior plover]

Good advice^

If you're necro killing pet is virtually your only option

Your healer has to be on point with cc

Both dodging and landing

It's a nearly impossible matchup tho

[smoky sail]

Maledict is good

Better than battlemaster dragging every game to zzzzz

[livid wasp]

no

[smoky sail]

Yes

[tulip falcon]

i mean at least there's a few things to stop it like decurse and spell reflect

[smoky sail]

Or maxrange it

Or Los

Not like there's 0 counterplay

[lime light]

u cant kill a hunters pet anymore

[tiny oar]

Agree

[smoky sail]

[junior plover]

[haughty compass]

👍

[tiny oar]

Wtf Pykan get with the program

[smoky sail]

[tiny oar]

We can emote tower here easier than #guardian cuz thyme doesn't look here as often 🧠 👀

[haughty compass]

I’m not a cat

[tiny oar]

[junior plover]

Why live at that point

[haughty compass]

Smol brain

[tiny oar]

[haughty compass]

Just not a fan of energy management, love the spec just not something I can main

Cats and chickens can be friends

[smoky sail]

chimken nuggers

gibe me

[tiny oar]

What is astral power if not a backwards energy bar 🧠

[clear pulsar]

Nope

[haughty compass]

Lol

[tiny oar]

Thank u kanye very cool

[haughty compass]

Project all you want! I still love y’all

[tiny oar]

I love u chickens too pykan 💚

As long as u use glyph of stars instead of moonkin form

[clear pulsar]

I love the chickens too

Deep friend next to my rice and beans

FRIED

But also friend

Of course

[quick nebula]

is the NF leggo tuning meaningful at all in pvp? for balance or feral

[clear pulsar]

I think it is at least for feral

Cuz feral's other leggos are just dog

[quick nebula]

yeah mmarkers said he will be using it for resto too

[clear pulsar]

Well yeah he plays a lot of diff shit for fun all the time

Idk if there is much merit to nfae in arena but if you are nfae for pve reasons then I imagine it'll be a decent leggo

[viscid remnant]

ok guys anyone wants to start an emote chain

🙏

[clear pulsar]

🙏

[tiny oar]

🙏

[haughty compass]

🦉

[tiny oar]

Pykans worse than thyme holy shit

[lime light]

Pykan leave my chat pls

[haughty compass]

I’m dying 🤣

[stone breach]

[green valve]

I really dont know what to do vs survival rdruid in 2s plz help

Feels so lopsided

[clear pulsar]

Yes surv hardcounter feral

It's not fair at all

[lime light]

bm is the same

[green valve]

Is it better as nf? Necro is just "lol fuck you craven"

[clear pulsar]

Not really

Convoke is just 'lol fuck you my pet will eat all of convoke's bites'

[wise valley]

this shit slappin bro

is anduin a shitty lich king now

[green valve]

Sigh and these fucks are getting flat 15% dmg bump

[haughty compass]

Moonkin healer and pve them

[lime light]

i heard its about 5% dmg buff

[sick arrow]

Hey my friend is wanting to reroll to a dps class, what would be best suited to teaming with me as a resto druid?

I assumed warrior

[haughty compass]

I'm playing jungle atm, are you happy now?!

[lime light]

holy fuck

if u play bm jungle

u dog shit

2k dog

no joke

how do u lose

as bm

hooow

[stray sigil]

u would find a way tian

u would find a way

[lime light]

idk

iam legit gonna leave

every bm jungle

its impossible

feral can be dogshit

no hander

still gonna win

[haughty compass]

I'm the worst feral druid

[lime light]

still glad if u play bm jungle

no skillism

[haughty compass]

What do you want from me

[tardy hare]

money.

[hasty remnant]

Imagine thinking wow takes skill

[green valve]

Imagine imagining

[viscid remnant]

imagine imagining imagining imagining imagining imagining imagining imagining

[lime light]

farming multi r1

losing to random backpedling bm

thats right babyt

[junior plover]

David on point as always

[clear pulsar]

@vestal citrus do you guys hate ethical?

[primal bane]

how's the update fellas

[past folio]

do you play resto

[lime light]

no

[serene citrus]

guys what stats for feral?

just noticed there are only few items with mastery

from pvp vendeor

is it a joke?

do we have to farm pve?

to get mastery + ves items?

[tulip falcon]

yeah it's not on every item but it's not like it matters much if you have a couple pieces without mastery

vers>mastery>crit

[lime light]

ye i think there is one less item

with vers mast

than in last ssn

haste is also good tho

[tulip falcon]

ya boi rockin 3% haste

[serene citrus]

i avoid haste coz im covo

beter crit than

[stray sigil]

unless ur necro

u dont really care about haste that much

[patent chasm]

hello everyone, can someone tell me why should i play lunar inspiration over sabertooth? it is just because the DoDF leggo?

it is worth even in low cr?

[tardy hare]

dmg is dmg

regardless of cr

[tulip falcon]

yea its cus of draught

[livid wasp]

what leggo do NF players use

eye?

[tulip falcon]

generally yea

but that will change tomorrow/wed since you can get the new one

[patent chasm]

tyty

[livid wasp]

planning to just go NF from kyrian

see what the convoke is all about

dunno how its gonna be for jungle tho

[slow jungle]

1 min convoke is gunna be so broken

[junior plover]

The 1 min convoke does sound really good

After buffs

I wasn't sure at first but after the buff oh baby

[haughty compass]

Just didn’t Necro fwral w/ circle. Bm jungle is gross

I don’t even know how to play feral and we win

Just did*

[livid wasp]

I dont know why everyone says that

like I dont know if ive been playing a different game by playing kyrian while others play necro

I know im not playing perfect but we're struggling at 1.9k

[junior plover]

1.9 right now is easily end of season glad territory

So don't be too hard on yourself i guess

Kyrian is pretty poop tho

[clear pulsar]

Kyrian is about to be goated tomorrow

[haughty compass]

Because the win condition is easy. It’s the in between that seems a little challenging

Lots of melee cleaves atm

Everytime I 5pt rip with tigers and swarm I just run and peel

But I am trash

[arctic rivet]

How so?

[tawdry iris]

just buy drought + FF + maim = win

[clear pulsar]

The new leggo is kind of insane

[arctic rivet]

What does it do?

[clear pulsar]

175 mastery from pelagos, 300 mastery from leggo, 15% buff from the spell itself

[arctic rivet]

And for which spec? Boomy?

[clear pulsar]

Every kindred

[arctic rivet]

Wait what the hell

Thats busted

[clear pulsar]

It gives you 150 mastery perma + 150 more when you activate kindred

[haughty compass]

Kyrian and convoke going to play the same

[arctic rivet]

Bruh

Wait does that benefit Guardian and feral well too?

Or will it be mostly for Boomy?

[clear pulsar]

The leggo is the same for everyone

'-'

[tulip falcon]

im scared for all the new legos

with how damage is at the moment already

[haughty compass]

Yea dude

[livid wasp]

isnt it 100 mastery

[arctic rivet]

No I mean would that make Kyrian stronger than Necro or Nf druids?

[haughty compass]

The 1min convoke won’t last, I’m convinced

[arctic rivet]

Because a lot of druids

No matter the spec

Were swapping to Necrolord

[haughty compass]

Convoke opener, get trinket / defensive. Next stun win

Feral will be god 1v1

[clear pulsar]

Yeah I'll be stuck necro til the tuesday after so I prob wont even be able to slay thru the ladder with new leggo myself

[arctic rivet]

Because of how busted it is now especially with that starsurge build where you bounce everyone around

The most toxic fucking thing ever in rbgs

[livid wasp]

in legion they were disabled in pvp for a reason and now in SL devs are like fuck it d00d

[arctic rivet]

Wait

That shit was a thing before???

Wtf

[livid wasp]

legendaries I mean

[arctic rivet]

Oh

Right I forgot that was a thing back then with class specific leggos

[tardy hare]

Ye but in legion you couldn't pick your legendary

Rn you can just make it

[tawdry iris]

assuming convoke leggo vs necro lord are somewhat equal, how will it play out in jungle. I'm interested in swapping to NF so I can potentially main feral for both PVP and PVE

[void nimbus]

PvP people, want rating is it for what ilvl conduits this season?

Feel like this is the kind of thing you'd know

[stray sigil]

2.1

for max ilvl

[void nimbus]

So it'll be 1.6k and 2.1k again I guess?

[clear pulsar]

Feji is it 252 at 2.1?

[stray sigil]

1.6 ?

[clear pulsar]

Cuz gear is just 246 so who knows

1.6 for 239

[stray sigil]

uh

[void nimbus]

In 9.0 it was 1.6k for 213 and 2.1k for 226

So I assume it's mirrored for this patch?

[clear pulsar]

Check vendor fuji goddammit

[stray sigil]

prob yes

[void nimbus]

239 at 1.6 and 252 at 2.1

[stray sigil]

dude im not in oribos u dumb fuck

but its def 2.1

if u want max ilvl on conduits

[clear pulsar]

Just check?

[stray sigil]

and stop 252

its

259 i think

[clear pulsar]

I am pve dragonslayer

[stray sigil]

u stoopid fuck

[clear pulsar]

Its not 259 idiot

[stray sigil]

252 is rival gear

dum fuk

[clear pulsar]

246 in pve

The part of the game that matters

[stray sigil]

i dont think the conduits would work like that

[clear pulsar]

Yeah but 1.8 is 252 pvp ilvl gear

So like

U kno?

[stray sigil]

no

[edgy shale]

conduits don't work like that

they are only 239 and 252

and 226

[void nimbus]

@tardy hare how's your boosting atm? All I need is 1.6k - easy right?

[stray sigil]

get fuckd idiot pvers

lmfao

[edgy shale]

yeah

I actually thought about this i was like wait wtf did they fix pvping for conduits

im not complaining tho 1600 is mad ez

RBGs baby

[stray sigil]

rbgs

[edgy shale]

[clear pulsar]

Ipod u got a mists or halls for me?

Need it for score pls

[edgy shale]

I have a +16 NW

[clear pulsar]

@edgy shale i can heal that if u need

Just @

How is raid going for u bud?

[edgy shale]

okay. im prob not gonna do it cuz I have raid in 40 min then im watching a movie, but if I decide to do it ill @ u. im down to spam tons of keys next week

[clear pulsar]

Ive only done 6 15s, wanna get 4 more down tonight

[keen phoenix]

Is convoke legendary available next week?

[edgy shale]

meh we cleared norm for gems n shit and now we on painsmith. ppl are unironically dying in intermission

and we had 2 pulls where we didn't meet the dps check

it was cringe

i was so tilted

but im hoping we just smash it quickly tonight and at least get to KT

[clear pulsar]

What dps check tho

Feel like it's better to overheal and maybe take an extra set of traps

If you can phase in like 1:30 or so I think you're still good?

Ive no idea how fast people phase it actually

[edgy shale]

the enrage

he has an enrage when spikes come and kill the entire raid if u don't kill him quickly enough at the end

[quick nebula]

#pvp?

[green valve]

Its more of a general chat

For pvpers and degenerates

[clear pulsar]

Well

Raiding is an essential aspect of gearing up for pvp

We are on topic @quick nebula whether you like it or not

[slow jungle]

Non-essential*

[clear pulsar]

You wish

[slow jungle]

Glad without PvEing. Pretty sure that means non-essential

Didn’t 9.1 make it like literally pointless to do PvE too? Pvp gear is higher ilvl

[edgy shale]

its opposite lol

its pointless to pvp for pve gear

pveing for pvp gear is fine

[slow jungle]

Ahhh good!! Now should be less boosters for gear

[edgy shale]

yes

[surreal heron]

First part is correct.

[edgy shale]

when will thyme accept that this is el patron's channel and none of us can do anything about it?

[surreal heron]

Never

[edgy shale]

[clear pulsar]

We probably could but who in their right mind would want to overthrow the greatest government of all time?

Couldn't be me

El patron blesses us everyday with wisdom

[haughty compass]

👍🐱

[clear pulsar]

Do I even bother actually with pvp caps?

[haughty compass]

Did I get it?

[clear pulsar]

I feel like I shouldn't tbh

I'm gonna get 252 wep from m+ vault anyways

[slow jungle]

Imagine PvEing

[haughty compass]

I actually like m+ 🤷‍♂️ now that there is a scoreboard, makes it interesting

I am an ape so 🤷‍♂️

Would be super if I could just play moonkin and I had friends that played and enjoyed classes that synergize with it

But here I am playing bm jungle with a back pedaling hunter

[clear pulsar]

POG

[haughty compass]

Teach me to cat

[clear pulsar]

Feji can

Machtig also loves reviewing vods

[haughty compass]

I’ll stream next session and you guys can judge my dad-ass

Or not idc

[clear pulsar]

[tiny oar]

Embrace the cat

[haughty compass]

I'm just getting past the "staring at my abilities trying to dps" phase

bigbrain spec

[lusty cape]

Hi guys:) Quick question. Would it be crazy to level and PvP as resto, toss wrath and primarily use feral affinity + master shapeshifter for DPS?

[clear pulsar]

It'll probably just go slower since other specs all have strong aoe spells that u dont

[haughty compass]

You can always Q dungeons as heal and level as a dps

[lusty cape]

Oh okay gotcha!

Ty:)

[rigid linden]

Tomorrow is the day

Do I get the sitful glad

Or will 0 dequeues happen and I don't get it

Find out on the next episode

Of dragonballz

[tulip falcon]

relying on dqs has fucked me before

[misty shuttle]

these most recent pvp changes are really interesting

have blizzard ever tweaked base spells to deal less / more dmg in pvp before quite like that?

[clear pulsar]

Possibly literally every major patch

[green valve]

Eh kill shot by 15% is pretty wild

And basically pure buff to survival

And fuck survival

[haughty compass]

Still have no idea what that spec even does

[green valve]

It has like 13 ranged rotational buttons and 1 mele button

But its a mele spec

[clear pulsar]

They also have a spell with 'Shot' in the name that can only be used with a 2hander

Not with a bow

[forest kite]

does adaptive swarm increase the effect of shackles of maledict?

[wise valley]

Only if ur drinking purple kool aid when u do it

[forest kite]

i assume not but it does affect regrowth initial heal so anything is possible no?

ah okay i'll stock up then

[wise valley]

Sometimes I mix up the purple with the yellow

And the vokda

Right now is one of those times

@vestal citrus

Have u seen the cat rapper dude

With his sphinx clan

[clear pulsar]

They have hotfixed it affecting regrowth initial hit

[forest kite]

oh cool, glad I missed that

[wise valley]

https://youtu.be/E8-ELHwoyjo

[haughty compass]

just did a key as necro feral

why

[spiral basin]

do i need to apply bleeds before or after adaptive swarm? does it matter?

[haughty compass]

question is what loot spec for tomorrow

[wise valley]

@tardy hare let's play tbc classic 3gether

[tiny oar]

i agree with machtig actually

survival hunters are the most tryhard clowns on the planet

[haughty compass]

Might main feral, actually have people to play with

[wise valley]

Outside of pvp though surv is fun af to ay

Play

Actually not a boring ass class like bm or mm lol

Sick spell animations too

[brisk raptor]

is necrolord the only option for resto in 2s and 3s or are any other ones not too bad? not a fan of necrolord

well are there really no other viable options?

[pastel veldt]

i cant wait to convoke every minute tomorrow

[wise valley]

In my opinion

Which everyone needs

Convoke was by far the single greatest ability ever created

The amount of people it touched and the lives it bettered is far beyond the second best ability ever created, condemn

[lime light]

2s gonna be unplayable after next reset

So if u guys wanna Play your last games

Go ahead its time

[lime light]

HUNTERS GONNA AIDS AND SWARM THE BRACKET

Like never again

U q

And u q into double bm

U cant hide

They know when necro ferals q

[tiny oar]

Lol

[stray sigil]

2s already filled with bm tian

[lime light]

Yes, but rn even your mom and my mom

Gonna level a Hunter

[turbid ravine]

Nf feral with mass roots for safer convoke?

[prisma flame]

afair convoke doesnt target rooted ppl

[turbid ravine]

You just root the pets, hit hunter to break root, convoke

[prisma flame]

oh yeah i guess that works :p

btw thoughts on new convoke leggo? worth?

[tulip falcon]

yes

it'll probably be busted

after the buff

[tulip falcon]

the amount of mastery will be nuts once you have the last trait

[lime light]

Inb4 u gain mastery only for half of the max duration

[tulip falcon]

lol

[undone cave]

Thinking of picking up the game with a feral now in 9.1. What covenant seems to be the best choice?

[junior plover]

BM buff irrelevant cuz it's already unbeatable

[junior plover]

Just have your priest fear the pet instead

[smoky sail]

Actually bm buff is a nerf

Idk if ppl troll but

[lime light]

?

[clear pulsar]

They offset the buff with the pvp specific nerf

[tardy hare]

They buffed most stuff and nerfed kill command

Which wasnt really an issue anyway

Tho

[tulip falcon]

it's not 15% less than what it is currently

it got buffed by 15% overall then nerfed by 15% in pvp = same

same with fire mage shit

[junior plover]

100 * 1.15 = 115
115 * 0.85 = 97.5

BM nerfed pog

[tulip falcon]

oh yes that 2.5% kill command nerf. I doubt they intended for that and it's just going to be the same as it was before the 15% buff.

rip bm

dead

[coral jackal]

Feral Convoke can only proc FF once right?

[tulip falcon]

doesn't proc in pvp

[queen drift]

It got buffed by 15 in non-pvp situations right?

So it actually is a 15% nerf to kill command

[tulip falcon]

looks like different wording on eu one

that one doesn't mention the nerf

so it just seems like it was scuffed wording from blizz so it is actually just the same as it is atm

[compact tide]

is it me or boomie feels underwhelming this arena season

??

[smoky sail]

[undone cave]

Thanks!

[kindred jay]

For someone also looking to get into Feral PvP, what makes it better than the other options/can you run other covenants?

[livid wasp]

night fae ferals all rolling niya right?

[abstract sigil]

I am, but only 1500 rn.

[tulip falcon]

ye

[livid wasp]

the mastery boost is nice I guess

[abstract sigil]

i could see korayn being insane too though if you're trying to cheese, 25% crit on opener + wild hunt tactics/strategem for like 15% bonus dmg

guess you dont get as big of bites in your convoke so meh

[tulip falcon]

the mastery is too much to lose out on

first strike is whatever, you only get use out of it in the opener

[abstract sigil]

yeah but if your opener is rake + convoke lol

also i assume its every time you drop combat

[tulip falcon]

i remember reading that it's once per enemy

even if you break combat

[abstract sigil]

either way i dont see anyone not running niya w/ 1 min convoke as night fae

regardless of spec

[tulip falcon]

yeah nothing else will really come close

as far as nf goes

[valid vine]

how much better is nf feral gonna be compared to necro after reset?

like ok convoke trinket and convoke again 1 min later in a stun sounds broken but necro dmg is insane also

[rich crag]

Definitely more fun to take someone apart as necro (I am speaking of feral thougho nly)

[tulip falcon]

there will probably be less of a gap

necro will still be good

it'll just be different

[fleet panther]

So feral PvP Lego is going to be the convoke one if we are nf?

[tulip falcon]

yep

[fleet panther]

Nice. Glad I didn't craft Apex or symmetry yet

[haughty compass]

Ok boys, do I main feral this season?

[tulip falcon]

yea don't go for apex that was my failed dream

[haughty compass]

I got a jungle squad, and a m+ team

Convoke works for both.... do I set that loot spec!? Do I do it!?

[fleet panther]

Apex seems good for pve though. Big bites lol

[tulip falcon]

it was the original pve lego ye

[fleet panther]

How do we get the covenant legendary again?

[tulip falcon]

like i've definitely killed people with lucky apex procs

but it's rare

renown 48

[haughty compass]

Renown 48, vendor I think

[fleet panther]

Gotcha.

[wise valley]

Damn bro

[silk ridge]

If I rbg as both resto (main) and boomkin, is the new NF legendary worth crafting? Or is circle / swarm + Necro better? Sorry I know it's a bit of a specific question.

[tight void]

If you main resto go with necro imo

[fleet panther]

so if the convoke lego doesn't work out...do I just craft symmetry for NF feral?

[tight void]

Necro boomy is alright in rbgs, good dmg but convoke is stronger for taking bases and pressure

But necro is bis for resto, so if it’s your main prioritize that

[haughty compass]

I think kyrian moonkin > Necro atm

Fast meta

[tight void]

If the ladder is any indication, in 3s right now it’s necro > nf >> kyrian. In rbgs nf >> necro = venth

[smoky sail]

Just doubt vent for any pvp content tbh

Isn't the stun omega annoying?

[lime light]

ok friends

whos helping me

with a cap

[tulip falcon]

🤮

[smoky sail]

Switch alliance n I carry u

[livid wasp]

wish there was a way to blacklist a class in arenas

would put BM on it instantly

[green valve]

GL BROS HOPE YOU ALL PULL WEAPONS

[shut plover]

Hey, is the conduit ilvl from the pvp only 226 ? Can't it go higher ?

(the ones we buy with conquest I mean)

[rain sky]

if im playing balance druid in rbg, should i use my balance of all things from my pve gear or do you guys recomend me to creat something else?

[tropic panther]

hey don't worry guys, they didn't increase kill command by 15% in pvp

so we'll only have to deal with extra 15% on every other ability lol

[lime light]

monks at 1.5k

abusing

the bug

XD

the question is

how they are 1.5k

YEP

[livid wasp]

wtf is with spriests nowadays

such insane dmg

[lime light]

was there a class

thajt is not op for ya

KLEKW

[livid wasp]

MW

[runic anvil]

yo, as resto how much does the necrolord do for us compared to NF? is it very noticeable? what is the biggest advantage, soulbinds or the swarm?

[lime light]

about time

mw gonna be flamed in here

[small storm]

https://i.imgur.com/DHNF7YN.png

@stray sigil

[clear pulsar]

Stop bro

It's triggering me

[woeful epoch]

😓

[tiny oar]

[lime light]

ok dude

iam 1.8k mmr

as 182 hpriest bm

the bm is fine

guys

[tiny oar]

The bm is fine

[lime light]

nothing wrong with it

[tropic panther]

Nah they need more damage

[lime light]

also hpriest

is prolly biggest no skill healer

in the game

[junior plover]

That's not a druid color i see

Get out

[livid wasp]

I dont get these full geared teams at 1.2k mmr

[wide sonnet]

What covenant are you running?

[rain sky]

im night fae 🙂

[wide sonnet]

Then Balance of all things works until further notice. The Celestial Alignment legendary is also (might be better) a good choice. Run with the increased duration on CA conduit 🙂

Would hold off crafting a new one until we are a few weeks in, and the covenant legendarys have arrived, and balance tuning are done

[clear pulsar]

Covenant legendaries are already here and tuning has been done

[wide sonnet]

Fuck true about legendaries, but dont think class tuning are 100 % done
Has a tendency to come buff/nerf after season go live

Allthough, who the f knows what they got in mind haha

[rain sky]

Ty mate 😄

[green valve]

Damn got kinda cucked from vault

[livid wasp]

im scared what kind of broken legendaries other classes will have

[green valve]

Haste helm or haste neck for feral

Guess i just take helm

[livid wasp]

is there any known broken ones?

[rain sky]

does it matter in what slot i put my legos? or can i pick the cheapest one?

[clear pulsar]

Yeah just hold off on all your decisions until 6 weeks from now you never know if there are any nerfs incoming

XDXDXD

[livid wasp]

dunno if theyre gonna do nerfs

thats a huge jebait if someone wastes all their soul ash

on a big lvl legendary

[turbid ravine]

They seem pretty keen on flooding pvp brackets with hunters

That much is clear

[livid wasp]

its always been fun to face hunters in 2s

as feral

[lime light]

XD

lol

no

[livid wasp]

wonder if its any easier as NF

going for convoke on hunter with roots on pets

idk

[merry sapphire]

We making the new cove lego for convoke? Or what

[rain sky]

want to know the same

[warm sun]

For Night Fae Boomies, I feel like Pulsar is the new BIS lego after the BOAT nerf. Gives us on demand burst we can time with Fury and/or Convoke

[junior plover]

So its broken yes

[clear pulsar]

I don't think convoke leggo is broken tbh

[fleet panther]

is it safe to craft the convoke lego for feral pvp?

[junior plover]

That's not the news i wanna hear

I need feral to be buffed

9.1

[haughty compass]

I’m about to finish the quest for renown 48, time to test 1min convoke

[livid wasp]

how much mastery does it grant?

[finite torrent]

sinful vs celestial wep enchant for feral pvp. which is bis?

necro feral

[arctic rivet]

any 1500 CR Rdruids on?

I'm looking for a healer

[livid wasp]

instantly climbed to 2.1k after going nf

lul

[junior plover]

[woeful epoch]

Suggestion for Night Fae soulbind?

[haughty compass]

1min convoke is nice

its real nice

[stray sigil]

1st one always

[edgy shale]

u made that shit already?

bruh

[haughty compass]

Yea at 225 just to try it

[little fulcrum]

May be a stupid question but what slot did you craft it for?

[edgy shale]

its legs n feet right?

i believe the higher stat budget is legs

[woeful epoch]

Yeah, Legs > Feet

[edgy shale]

i dont remember if boots are a dom socket slot, but legs def arent

so ya legs for sure

[woeful epoch]

Helms, Shoulders, Chests, Gloves, Boots for leather

[haughty compass]

I did legs because I had haste / vers. Playing feral atm

Although I really suck at it

[stray sigil]

u dont care about dom sockets in pvp anyways

u got for what gives u better stats budget

[winter pelican]

feral or boomie?

[haughty compass]

I said feral lol

[winter pelican]

ah I see it now, thanks

[gloomy nova]

is the convoke leggo gonna be 1min or 1.5 ?

[edgy shale]

1

those patch notes fucked ppl up

[gloomy nova]

kekw

[haughty compass]

Can confirm the 1min version can 1 shot someone easily

[junior plover]

1 min 25% reduuc

full niya

right?

[haughty compass]

Yea

[junior plover]

Thats wild

theres no way thats not good

[edgy shale]

yea

when did u ever get all 16 off anyway

[junior plover]

Yeah not a lot

[stray sigil]

convoke in bm meta though

[abstract sigil]

[fleet panther]

do we make the convoke lego with mastery/vers?

[junior plover]

yes

[abstract sigil]

so mastery > haste for 1 min convoke build?

[junior plover]

mastery is always > haste

wait

FERAL

no clue about boomie but probably haste

[edgy shale]

????? convoke is perfect for bm meta cuz it gives u an extra 10k hp to survive

[junior plover]

convoke probably better than necro

for bm meta

might kill the pet

[haughty compass]

I wanna try it as balance too

[stray sigil]

i suppose u could use it to kill pets ya

but still sound kinda troll

id rather be kyrian

[tulip falcon]

cant wait to get it on eu reset tomorrow

reee

[ruby lion]

hey guys is there any way to cancel emerald slumber?

[tulip falcon]

not from what I've been able to see

not even cancelaura macros work

was testing it earlier

[ruby lion]

im testing it right now and dosnt seem like a good option for flag deffence

[tulip falcon]

it's great, you just have to use it when no one is around

[ruby lion]

its 8 sec cast and if someone gonna pop out of stealth its a free cap

[tulip falcon]

ye just only use it if you know no one is there

[ruby lion]

yeah makes sense i wasnt aware of this and was using slumber on flag def maps for a whole week

lucky i didnt have to learn a hard way

[tulip falcon]

i almost did earlier lmao

[little fulcrum]

Is haste of any use at all to NF feral?

[tulip falcon]

i knew boomkin was still there but was like fuck it imma slumber behind los

luckily he capped late

[clear pulsar]

@edgy shale you play 1 min convoke yet?

[edgy shale]

I dont have enough soul ash

[tulip falcon]

rip

im getting that shit asap tomorrow

[edgy shale]

im gonna need to farm torg hard this week i guess. I had to recraft circle / draught

[clear pulsar]

Shoulda farmed it in post season week

There was nothing else to do

[edgy shale]

yeah i was lazy / on vacation that week

im paying for it now rip

im wonder if its good in m+ / certain fights

[ruby lion]

what is the best slot for eye on feral NF druid?

[clear pulsar]

I think it will be

The sims arent perfect yet ofc, they'll never be with how fucky convoke implementation is

But it's a close 2nd in single target while not losing value in cleave phases

[clear pulsar]

If you raid, it's the slot where there are no shards of domination

If you don't raid then it doesn't matter

[edgy shale]

ya I can def see it used on the nine / other fights like that

i wanna test it

[ruby lion]

i dont raid a nd i see alot of arena players using head for slot. but isnt it better to use bracers since bracers from the vendor dont have a mastery on it?

[clear pulsar]

You cant make symm on bracers

[ruby lion]

oh my bad its hands not bracers

[tulip falcon]

smh

[clear pulsar]

Lmao you rly got 3 weapons

I got 252 phial

Yeah it does so much damage lmao I'd never had it before

GOnna FARM some parses this week