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vestal oasis
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Can anyone tell me whats the best legendary for resto in 2s ?

foggy ravine
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Verdant infusion

wise valley
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dude this game sucks

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like a 5 game loss in rbgs

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cus dps are so fucking braindead

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moshpit mid in WSG while efc troll strolls right past them

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dude picks up flag, and drops it in a middle of a teamfight

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"tank sucks couldnt pick up flag"

junior plover
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Some druid in my group stalking my messages on this channel

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i love u bby

surreal heron
wise valley
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my fav bg

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besides gorg

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fav flag for sure

junior plover
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wsg slaps

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always has

wise valley
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dude low cr everything is hilarious

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no one takes the cooldown buff in uhhh

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that one 5 base map not arathi

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i just sit bear and have a full 2x incarn duration and 3 bum ass dps cant overcap

junior plover
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the mop one

wise valley
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yeah

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that isnt temple of kot

rigid linden
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Chinese ab

junior plover
wise valley
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gorge is just the most fun with a good team you just peel and dam all game

indigo osprey
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does anyone know if you lose your rbg rating when you faction and server change?

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nice

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just hit 1800 and want to join friends horde, but iu still need honor to upgrade

wise valley
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yeah being low cr the biggest problem is no one knows how to proper damage

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losing a bg because cus enemy team is top 5 dmg done burst classes is whack

covert bobcat
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Does anyone know when to use tank leggo over eye when playing feral?

edgy shale
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dam? i don't care about the dam they do, i get pissed by how they base sit

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"how did that rogue cap on you" "oh I trinketted sap immediately" liek ok cool

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or the tank in WSG is fighting in mid instead of going for flag

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or when we do 1 man rogue O team 9 man D team

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that one drives me insane actually

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"rogue why aren't you killing their FC" oh idk cuz there's 2 hpals and a disc next to him?

wise valley
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good dam bypasses that imo

edgy shale
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maybe on WSG, but base maps having ppl who know how to cap / hold bases is more important imo

wise valley
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yeah the amount of people who dont know how to spin

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would make michael jackson shed a tear

edgy shale
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facts

viscid remnant
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Rbg is ape bracket not surprising it is populated by people who didnt evolve to homo sapiens yet

edgy shale
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i used to think yolo was fun, but when I actually learned more about how to play RBGs its painful how dumb people are

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ya, its like if ur playing the game u might as well play

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even if ur massively outgeared u can easily win thru smart play, except its way more annoying in WSG maps

foggy ravine
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You can play to 2.2k without any gear tbh on most maps

edgy shale
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i fucking hate WSG i guess im biased

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legit despise it so much

stray sigil
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worse mage deepwind or seething

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not even close

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deepwind might be worse actually

edgy shale
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i like seething

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and deepwind is one of my favorite maps

stray sigil
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ur also

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special in the head

edgy shale
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orbs is another one ppl hate, but I like it

stray sigil
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@clear pulsar u see what this man is saying

edgy shale
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temple of kotmogu

stray sigil
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kot is fine but not in rated bgs

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then becomes a who has more boomies bgs

edgy shale
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ehh, haven't ppl moved past boomies kinda? I feel like ppl are loving locks these days idk

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that map is def the biggest shitshow

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very back n forth al ot of the time

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i think silvershard mine is my single favorite map and AB

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u can big brain ppl on mine so fucking hard

viscid remnant
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AB is aids

tulip falcon
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hate silvershard

viscid remnant
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Imo ofc :)

edgy shale
tulip falcon
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tbh only like

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kotmogu gilneas and flag maps

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new deepwind is horrible

edgy shale
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why?

tulip falcon
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to which

edgy shale
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uhh i kinda wanna know ur opinion on all of them, but deepwind is wat i meant

tulip falcon
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deepwind is too large and theres no map vision

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its so boring

viscid remnant
tulip falcon
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its just same flat base in every corner

edgy shale
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ya that was me trying to dip into a teamfight on rogue, its like ok guys im gonan smoke bomb kidney this guy lets try to ki- and im dead

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there's a lot of small skirmishes on that map and its back n forth and u can win w/ a gear discrepancy is why i like it, but i see what ur saying

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u can win any map w/ a gear discrepancy obv but it just feels way easier on big maps

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i guess when ur at a higher rating and not gearing alts, u dont give a shit about the gear thing cuz erveryone is geared anyway

tulip falcon
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well yea

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i don't mind AB as much because there's diff base design and map vision

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deepwind is so plain

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and cd reset pickup is giga stupid

edgy shale
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wat u mean like slow falling off LM to BS?

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cuz besides that its like the same kinda

viscid remnant
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Idk i hate the style of constantly rotating between bases

tulip falcon
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you can't see shit from any base in deepwind, except for GM on AB you have vision

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only same base design on AB is farm/st

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deepwind is just a mirror

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also the resource gain is slow af

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due to the layout it's also hard to ninja

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just very boring map

bitter harness
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Cd reset is fun though

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That's about it

remote surge
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have i just not noticed that the conquest badge of ferocity gives crit not haste?

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but the honor one gives haste

junior plover
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yes

remote surge
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dang

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wonder if it's worth getting a 207 badge from a 197

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only real conquest upgrade, my other slots are 226 non vers but dont have anything close to that for those slots

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did it

junior plover
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Boomie?

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Should just replace it with the HP one

remote surge
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dang really? rip

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mainly just doing rbgs cause theyre easy

junior plover
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Yeah don't sweat it too much 😛

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Its nice to have both

remote surge
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fingers crossed for vault options then!

tall knoll
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I just feel like without badge i dont do any damage as nf boomie between convoke goes in 2s. And the survivability is so high even as boomie, that i can get away with taking badge. Or is the passive 60 int enough from the hp one and outweighs the 130 something active from badge?

silent jewel
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for feral pvp, +32 Vers or +5% speed? im inclined for the latter

fickle junco
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any thoughts on 2/3/5 in rated battlegrounds vs the normal 1/3/6.

clear pulsar
fickle junco
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just a thought. like in the hold the points you are down a player any way you slice it. have 2 tanks 1 on each may reduce the need to send the entire team to protect it.

clear pulsar
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Idk some people use speed gem in the AWC but mostly healers

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Tanks aren't particularly good base sitters

tardy hare
junior plover
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You don't really gain any dps, you just concentrate it on a go, which is good, but BM is one of the best defensives in the game

clear pulsar
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Nah badge isnt lower dps lol

junior plover
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Sorry

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Meant bm

clear pulsar
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BM is kinda lit but like glyph said

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You're the ultimate livelord spec in pvp already

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Why run bm

junior plover
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True

tardy hare
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Cause im an ape?

junior plover
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But if you know you're kill target it can't hurt

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Well depends

clear pulsar
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Ook ook

junior plover
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On if you're main dps and you NEED the dam but if you are then something in your comp is wrong

gray canopy
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Question, is venthyr now worth going for doomkin if you are focusing on RBG's?

clear pulsar
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Nothing at all has changed about venthyr

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If you're inclined to be venthyr, the situation is the same as ever

tall knoll
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I can see BM being good. Im just playing 2s with ret/boomie mostly. So against things like spriest/warlock or maybe ww/healer its probably nice for that extra defensive cd

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Thanks for the infos :)

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Venthyr boomie is pretty damn good in rbgs if your goal is to run the enemy healers out of mana in the zerg. Going full dot/starfall build with circle and all that jazz

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Thing is its only good for that specific scenario i guess

gray canopy
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Ah fair point

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Ill just pop braindead convoke insted haha

junior plover
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Venthyr for dots?

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I think u mean necro but necro doesn't scale well with aoe

tall knoll
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As boomie the venthyr ability is pretty nutty. And starfall ofc. Big aoe dmg

clear pulsar
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Convoke braindead but venthyr apparently would be much more engaging and complex?

junior plover
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Ah

clear pulsar
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Some of the takes in here bro

junior plover
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Gotcha

clear pulsar
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Swear to god

junior plover
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Venthyr feral tho

viscid remnant
tall knoll
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As venthyr boomie you can just keep spamming moonfire to stack up ravenous frenzy and get pretty insane dmg, haste and crit (with conduit not sure if the fixed it so it works). Plus starfall, maybe a pi from a priest and boom. Enemy healers oom in 30 seconds tettleslul

clear pulsar
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Niya gives you basically a 25% dmg buff for 30 seconds

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Don't get me wrong bro like, I'm all for playing different shit cuz your play matters more than your character setup

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But lets not misrepresent ravenous frenzy as an actually good choice

tall knoll
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Im not playing it. Just saw Rudar's video on youtube and it seems pretty nuts for rbgs specifically

clear pulsar
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Yeah you take an AWC competitor / multi rank 1 boomie playing literally anything at 500+ rating lower than where he should be, it will look really good

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Rudar definitely cashing in on them clickbaity titles and thumbnails with stream highlights stomping noobs

open hollow
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Rbgs also have players wearing 0 PvP gear getting hit for more than they should

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Where as if you care about being a moonkin even in PvE you'd stack Mastery and Vers

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Lots of players that get owned have less than 8-10% vers

clear pulsar
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LFG has such a dumb obsession with vers %

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It's very unlikely anyone gets into any groups with that low of vers

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Even if it really really doesnt matter nearly as much as they make it out to

junior plover
tall knoll
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Pvp lfg in general. But i guess its an easy way to seed out pve-players? Unless its like a ww monk which has vers/mastery as main stat anyway ThumbsUp

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Also just saying i love this emote Kiosk. Or just all the emotes on this server in general really

clear pulsar
tall knoll
junior plover
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How dare you flex on me like that

lime light
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Everyone calm down

clear pulsar
viscid remnant
lilac otter
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Hi. nothing in the stickies, For resto druid, which legendary is optimal for RBG specifically?

fading stump
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Hey guys im new to Drood, wanna Play Guardian only in RBGs, which Cov should i choose? And Which Soulbind?

junior plover
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Convoke is nice for sitting base as Guardian

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cuz you can actually possibly kill someone

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but im not a rbg frog so i cant really say which is best

fading stump
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Im necro atm for the BIG shield 😅

fading stump
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Thwre is nothing on the internet About Guardian RBG xD

hardy cargo
tardy hare
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night fae fast

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kyrian has pot

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doesn't matter

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bear is afk in RBGs anyway

harsh surge
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@fading stump you literally do nothing

junior plover
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@tardy hare link him your guide

chrome panther
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you stealth to flag

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and get this, you pick up the flag

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you w key back to your side of the map

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press incarn with sleeper

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cap flag

tardy hare
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meme compilation watch2gether while base defending

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pog

chrome panther
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get 2400 rating

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pretend ur good with elite title

viscid remnant
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Legend

chrome panther
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homie up here getting 226 gear watching meme compilations on youtube

junior plover
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@tardy hare theres no sound

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from youtub

harsh surge
tardy hare
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FIXED

junior plover
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THANKS BOSS

harsh surge
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honestly lost count from the times somebody nearly capped the flag NEXT TO ME

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while i was close to falling asleep

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in rbg

junior plover
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Literally capped in front of me

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as i was watching something

harsh surge
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im just on youtube

junior plover
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yep

harsh surge
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eyes nearly closed

tardy hare
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do i play this bg?

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or do i go afk

chrome panther
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DUDE ROLLS THROUGH THE DOOR

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HAH

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bruh just watch memes

junior plover
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why'd he do that to the milk tho

tardy hare
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my team not doing so well

junior plover
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if theyre losing so hard

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1 player wouldnt change a thing

tardy hare
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true

junior plover
chrome panther
junior plover
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this one is good

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with the chicken

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seen it before

harsh surge
junior plover
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fucking pooped the bug to death

harsh surge
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more enjoyable than just

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doing dumb shit with the enemy dh

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for 20 min straight

tardy hare
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team doesn't evne notice im afk

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¯_(ツ)_/¯

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DK seems to have figured it out

junior plover
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fucking censored memes

junior plover
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Yo can dks reduce cooldown on the stun break

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or is my omnibar cracked

teal hinge
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Cracked

tiny tusk
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Ibf? There is a conduit to reduce the cd I'm pretty sure

viscid remnant
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ye i think so too

half cypress
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Balance, should I go kyrian or stay NF? Playing 3s with afflock + discpriest

proud crest
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probably

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i like 1 min boomkin with disc, im also trash tho

half cypress
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Gna test it :9

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Dont rly like convo, dont get much value out of it since it's insta kick,fear,los,stuns etc

haughty compass
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Until you get mine empowerment purged

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Lone*

half cypress
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What?

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@haughty compass Do you think it's a mistace to leave NF?

haughty compass
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You can play either one

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They both have strengths they both have weaknesses

half cypress
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Just remembered the downside with kyrian.. It's miles away from Oribos :U

wispy wraith
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Feral seems pretty cool rn, i was convoking and it's pretty cool but wanted to try something new and more consistent, necrolord or kyrian?

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that fleshcraft conduit that gives u a cc immunity seems kinda cool

stable otter
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necro only good for resto

teal hinge
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Meta boomkin necro circle

shrewd cove
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is symmetry the only viable legendary for for feral rbg? Most of what I read is more arena specific

wise valley
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Feral rbg kinda non existent thats why

shrewd cove
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😦

tulip falcon
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haters

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but yea for real ive only queued into like 1 other feral in rbg

summer cliff
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Which resto guides is the one to follow?

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is icy veins solid at all?

stray sigil
shrewd cove
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icy is where I usually start and then tweak from there

stable otter
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i mean it’s decent on feral

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but convoke leagues better

shrewd cove
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if you can get it off anyway often gets interupted by something in bgs

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such a huge telegraph

summer cliff
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so for resto, is necro the way?

shrewd cove
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if you're trying to do something other than convoke than possibly. Mostly I've seen necro talk for feral rather than resto though

summer cliff
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is convoke even a thing for resto?

stray sigil
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i dont think convoke is better than necro

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at all actually

summer cliff
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i mean, necro got great defensives

stray sigil
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speaking from feral pov

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cuz someone said convoke is "miles" better

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leagues better myb

sacred path
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I love necro as resto- mind you I suck but it’s cool

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Imagine swarm+bleeds could be a nightmare too

warped dust
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How hard is 2400 and how many hours a week will it take the average player.

shrewd cove
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I find it's hard to get groups to even get combatant right now...

safe heart
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ive been working on 2400 for months and im only at 1850

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its all gunna depend on how good you are at making friends who are good at world of warcraft mostly

clear pulsar
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Lmao stop enji

clear pulsar
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Also icy-veins is super sketchy for pvp

shrewd cove
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huh I though kyrian fell out of favor last I saw and necro had moved up with 9.0.5 for feral. Resto I unno I usually just see people rolling convoke

clear pulsar
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Night fae is only good for resto for stomping low rating 2s

shrewd cove
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I considered trying necro for feral, but the whole swapping thing

clear pulsar
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Or selling carries

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People who play night fae resto are pveers having fun in pvp

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Anyone whose primary end-game focus is pvp is necro

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Idk swapping isn't that big of a deal imo

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I've swapped uuh 10 times on main

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5 times on alt!?

shrewd cove
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O_o

clear pulsar
safe heart
clear pulsar
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Enji is the new noodle

safe heart
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on the rise

clear pulsar
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@tardy hare was noodle a worldofpvp guy first?

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Or was he just on dilly's cord

safe heart
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who u callin a noodle

foggy ravine
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Swarm is OP for resto 9/10 would take over convoke

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Memeing some hotw maim convokes in 2s would be fun doe

clear pulsar
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Noodle was this dk, just ykno, 1.9-2k rating all of legion, grabbing elite set each season but barely. Then bfa rolls around, can't get 2.1 to save his life. Begs these multi rank 1s in a pvp discord server for months and til they finally play with him, they can barely get his ass to 2.4, can't stay above the rating for glad wins playing wwdk with 2 multi rank 1 3k+ exp players. Then he started rolling with the discourse that wow arena is simply about knowing people.

safe heart
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ok first off

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i didnt beg

clear pulsar
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I know bro

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Just telling you the story of noodle

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Noodle was a bit of a piece of work but we loved him for who he was

safe heart
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how could you not with a name like noodle

clear pulsar
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Then he ragequit the servers cuz he couldn't bear getting memed on for missing glad with 2 multi 3k players

tardy hare
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Nvm

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I see

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Dont remember him

clear pulsar
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This was at the height of DK opness too

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Like bfa season 2 with the crucible plate gear that gave infinite shields

tardy hare
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Rofl

clear pulsar
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Before they nerfed necrotic strike

safe heart
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point being , i think its important to find fellow degens to play with

foggy ravine
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Lfg is pretty thin most of the time tbh

safe heart
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esp on ally

foggy ravine
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Oh I can’t even imagine trying to lfg alliance

safe heart
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theres like 12 listings

foggy ravine
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I feel like sub 1600 there’s plenty between alts and people there but after that it feels like it always take forever to form groups

safe heart
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yeah

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gamble it with 1400 rated healers sometimes

latent walrus
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Any boomies that can suggest best trinket combos in RBGs?

trim moth
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Sinful Gladiators Medallion/Insignia of Alacrity/Badge of Ferocity. Mastery trinket if you want. You can get away with a lot.

wispy wraith
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thought it would be worse

clear pulsar
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Carlinhos HmmSpecs

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BRs taking over dreamgrove

safe heart
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can you like prep for a swap if youre still on the fence?

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like do the first quest but not the second?

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so that way if you do decide to swap you can just do the quest and swap then and there?

haughty compass
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Holy priest convoke moonkin vs bm priest whats the play?

plain phoenix
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Anyone that mains feral willing to help me learn ?

wise valley
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most people here yes

plain phoenix
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I am 196 item lvl which is low and i no gear will help me not get one shot but id like to make sure i am not messing up the actual play style if anyone is willing could you message me id greatly appreciate it

wise valley
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u can just post the questions here

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its the point

plain phoenix
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That was the question ? i was wondering if any horde feral mains could help show me the ropes in pvp

clear pulsar
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Like a carry?

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Prolly not

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If you have question tho, or replays that you want people to look at and point things out

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Lots of people here are willing

plain phoenix
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Yeh im not looking for a carry if anything just duels to show me whats wrong and stuff like that i dont expect anyone to carry me in arena

shrewd cove
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I guess short answer for not getting “one shot” would be learning when to trinket and bear to soak dmg. Frenzie regen with bear affinity. Arena specifically? More variations based on your comp and there’s. I’ve seen people mention “Beans” YouTube videos for feral arena. Might help to see some play

plain phoenix
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ill check the video out thanks

shrewd cove
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I used to run resto affinity more (bgs / world pvp) but switched to bear mostly for better self sustain but give up the resto utility :/

plain phoenix
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yeh i used to think the resto affinity was the best one but i swapped to bear

deft parrot
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is feral > boomie for arena?

clear pulsar
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No

arctic rivet
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I’m vibing with my boomy way better than my Dk

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Who I main

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I might slowly turn to a Druid main I’m having a blast with it

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I think I found a class that I genuine vibe with and is like my spirit animal tbh

clear pulsar
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This homie is coaching the rbg group on how to climb and win arena

arctic rivet
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Originally main DK since wrath love the undead

clear pulsar
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Lecturing everyone with linking weakauras and shit

arctic rivet
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But class itself I feel vibing with boomy way better nowadays than even my Hpal as well

clear pulsar
noble quail
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Trying out necro lord feral kinda curious how you guys think would be the best opener 🤔

gloomy token
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Rake mf thrash sr ( :^) ) as ff rip clone healer

clear pulsar
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@vestal citrus do you know the rest of these people? Bunch of 18hundo ratings are they boostees or just chan and kubzy joining rando pugs?

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Like hansol team fully stacked to the gills but

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Enemy was very iffy

arctic rivet
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Got the other bis soulbind

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Percise alignment

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How can I set it up?

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this is what I have rn

stray sigil
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@clear pulsar the hocuspocus guy is tubshark or some shit

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some hero rbger

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im assuming thats a hero group

clear pulsar
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They got smashed

lime light
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Boomers

fallow sedge
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thats not the real chan

junior plover
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And still top 10%

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HOW DO YOU LOOOOSE

fast vale
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Did the little buffs to resto make much diff?

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Ignored by Druid for a good while but may come back to it for a bit

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Bored af waiting in LfG as dps 😂

clear pulsar
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They were really not little lol

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On a spec that was already very playable

junior plover
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Resto druid is one of the best healers in the game right now

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But highest skill cap for sure

clear pulsar
# fallow sedge thats not the real chan

Huh the realm did make it sus but that is definitely real kubzy so I figured chan just xfered or something. Still they got farmed, for being 2.4 mmr they couldn't really put up much of a fight.

junior plover
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Especially in 2s a good rdruid is untouchable

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Always max ranging and staying out of harms way and impossible to cc properly

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Some of the best cc in the game as well

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Overall great spec

viscid remnant
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yeah rdruid is extremely good in 2s

clear pulsar
foggy ravine
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Even in 3s rdruid feels great right now

viscid remnant
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i havent tried much 3s but i suppose it can be good if you play with wizards

foggy ravine
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I've played both melee cleaves and wizards cleaves both feel good, melee cleaves are a bit harder to heal but still work alright

velvet nymph
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Gonna buckle down and grind my rbg rating from 1800 to 2100 over my spring break. Wondering if its worth crafting the rank 1 barkskin legendary (don't have more ash atm) for reference im sitting at 224 equipped with rank 4 ursocs, apex, circle, and draught

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Playing feral and bear

clear pulsar
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Really sketchy

foggy ravine
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if you are doing any flag carrying grb sleeper over the barkskin leggo

lime light
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Spirit shell

viscid remnant
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hahahahahaahahah

wise valley
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Yeah sleeper only leggi u need

junior plover
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Guys

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How do you lose as feral

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Hoooow

clear pulsar
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Idk send me your vod and I'll tell you

honest mesa
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HOW DO YOU LOSE

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Pls

lusty gull
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Hey guys for 3s what would be the idea comp from these classes . Hpally and feral/boomy with a spriest/fdk

pallid vessel
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is it even worth it to keep up rip 100% right now? watching cdew and others gear up alts, they get absolutely shredded (pun intended) by ferals who barely keep up rip and they are shocked at the damage output

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i might fuck around and not cast rip this weekend

solemn sierra
#

Anyone else playing resto in rbg? I’m interested in leggo choices/scenarios. Also, is anyone else running full endurance on dreamweaver? I’m rolling the two frenzied regen conduits and the ursoc health+armor for big self heals when swapped to. Curious any thoughts

honest mesa
#

Sp/boomie probably good too

honest mesa
sinful canyon
#

Yeah I tend to rip outside of go's

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And then rip right before I plan to start my go

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For tfb

junior plover
#

tbh

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I kinda wanted to get into making addons

junior plover
#

plz coach me

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I think my problem is that my brain doesn't work fast enough

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I need to get on some adderal or smth

junior plover
heavy cairn
#

How many 3s have you queue this season?

blissful belfry
#

arena was only fun in the first month where i outgeared everyone and dimwits couldnt figure out how to press button to stop convoke

viscid remnant
blissful belfry
#

i need unfair advantages to be good and have fun

junior plover
#

I have like 1500 games of 2s this season

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Probably like 1700 actually

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And like 350 3s

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That's like 85 hours of straight up pvp

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In just 2s

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Not as much as I thought honestly

lime light
#

People forgot about el patron

heavy cairn
#

What about everyone else? How many 3s has everyone done this season?

blissful belfry
#

779 2s, 892 3s

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90% of my games to help shitters of my guild get some cr

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10% to actually push with decent human being

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i think 10% is generous

bleak vault
#

boat or dreambinder for boomie rbgs?

ebon vortex
#

is melee leeway a thing in retail still

tardy hare
#

Thefuck is melee leeway

ebon vortex
#

some warrior just hit me from nearly 20 yards away without the charge execute talent and im trying to understand what hpapened lmfao

tardy hare
#

Y'all be having 3rd world country internet?

ebon vortex
#

from my partners pov he wasnt even close to me, i dropped dead and the guy just turned around

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he was russian tbf

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the war that killed me not the guy im playing with lol

foggy ravine
sour fulcrum
#

how does rogues go out of combat and stealth even if I have dots on them?

lime light
#

condult

foggy ravine
#

cloaked in shadows conduit gives shield when they stealth

sour fulcrum
#

so no way to really keep them in combat except if you Fury of elune or something

heavy cairn
#

@sour fulcrum if they get out of combat they can go stealth. They have a stealth conduit which gives them a 10% shield so basically dots don’t break them out of stealth or bleeds like they classically did. So if they get out of combat for a half sec they pretty much are coming out when they want to lol

sour fulcrum
#

sounds OP for 2s

heavy cairn
#

Yeah it’s good in general

sinful canyon
#

I must make the pilgrimage to 2100 soon

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Recently arenas have felt like things have been clicking so that's good

heavy cairn
#

Do it up brotha

junior topaz
#

what would you guys recommend me to get conq gear fast when I don't care about rating?

lime light
#

rbg if u are non feral spec

junior topaz
#

I'm a boomie, yes :)

arctic rivet
#

Is Kyrian slowly become meta now for boomies or am I still good with Convoke NF style?

#

I say this bec I noticed a lot of boomies are now Kyrian lately....

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And Idk if my haste-heavy gear would work well with Kyrian since I heard mastery is the way to go for Kyrian while Haste is for NF

blissful belfry
#

i dont know where you heard haste was more for nf than kyrian. Since NF ability doesnt even scale with haste to begin with

arctic rivet
#

dude....

blissful belfry
#

also, kyrian and NF as always been the 2 viable choice for boomy

arctic rivet
#

haste is 2ndary stat for pvp due to the cyclones as well as casting faster

blissful belfry
#

nothing has changed

arctic rivet
#

ok

blissful belfry
#

yes, haste is the best after vers

arctic rivet
#

tho Haste is supposedly the primary stat (besides verse) for NF

blissful belfry
#

but not more for night fae than kyrian

arctic rivet
#

oh so its good for both then?

blissful belfry
#

yes

arctic rivet
#

ah ok good

#

so I ever decide to switch cov my gear is still optimal then

blissful belfry
#

yes

arctic rivet
#

ok good just making sure

#

incase Blizz decides to buff Kyrian or nerf NF or do something to change the cov meta for boomies

blissful belfry
#

prolly wont happen til 9.1

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can def see something change in 9.1 tho

foggy ravine
#

kyrian has always been the more consistent option, but both work fine

wise valley
#

I think nf def better in rbgs

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Especially stacked

foggy ravine
#

ya NF is p sick in rbgs

wise valley
#

3 boomkin team is stupid u can just rotate hard on a base and cap instant

foggy ravine
#

but a kyrian go with deep root beam on a healer is gnarly too

wise valley
#

Had a bg with another 2 boomys and we rotated convokes

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4 ss each pumping

arctic rivet
#

Been playing with a rogue lately

#

Its amazing when rogue stun locks healer and attacks the main target

#

I just sit in stealth waiting for the healer so use medallion and after he uses medallion I Root beam or cyclone him and I thanos the enemy target

visual badge
#

hi guys, what covenant should i go for 2v2 with sp as a feral? Not sure if it's Kyrian or Night fae

orchid badge
#

I'm going to make a Weak Aura to let me know when my focus target is in burst mode so I can do Solar Beam on him. I've got it looking for Combustion and Convoke the Spirits, what are other good class burst buffs to look for?

sacred path
#

Got ghosted and /ignored by my new partner I thought I was playing well with lol 😕

thorny venture
#

There's potential blizzard is super silly and buffs the defensive of all druids with guardian affinity haha

still carbon
#

So i am not good at macro's but i'm trying to build a macro that will wild charge my focus target, if i have no focus target my mouseover target, if i have neither a Focus or Mouseover then just my current target, is that something that can be done, i came up with this and of course it didn't work
#showtooltip
/cast [@focus,harm,nodead] [@mouseover,harm,nodead] [] Wild Charge

sacred path
#

Lol maybe my stupid ass will be able to break 1800

clear pulsar
shut osprey
#

Sup guys! Ive seen lots of pro switching to necrolord with boomie and feral! Can anyone explaine why?

#

Is adaptive swarm such a good dmh spell or with only for defensive?

junior plover
#

I don't think it's a thing tho, no @ebon vortex

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It got removed around the same time batching did I think

junior plover
#

It's restos logged out as boomkin

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Necro Feral is really good in BM Jungle

teal hinge
#

Necro circle boom is meta

junior plover
#

Generally Kyrian/NF is better but specifically in BM jungle necro feral just slaps

visual badge
#

@junior plover maybe you know which covenant is better to play 2s with sp for feral?

junior plover
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They're both good especially in double dps

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Just play what sounds more fun to you, both feel nice

charred pebble
#

Curious what feral is taking as an affinity in 2s with a holy priest. Currently run guardian affinity and it’s super helpful for an easy out with roar and frenzied but wondering if I should really be playing resto affinity? Does one shine against certain comps better than others? I imagine against rogue/mage it’s guardian affinity always. 1600CR btw.

vale bane
#

Whats the go to Balance legendary now?

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Still BOAT?

wise valley
#

Wut

vale bane
#

?

edgy shale
#

yea its boat or db

vale bane
#

thanks

#

is DB worth crafting if NF?

edgy shale
#

most ppl who are NF go boat but DB is still good

vale bane
#

ah, ok thanks.

buoyant iron
#

For Boomie are people using the 197 On-use with Haste Trinket or the On-use with Crit trinket from Conquest?

I'm finding myself using the Haste Honour version.

I also have the Int-Proc with Haste Trinket but I like using the On-use with Fury of Elune.

shadow briar
#

is mother tree decent for rbg?

buoyant iron
#

I only have the 213 Conq

forest kite
#

You want that int from the on use. Burst kill ppl, not some secondary stats :>

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Int/versa/health is what matter, secondary stats don't change shit, these 2% crit from Conquest trinket in fact have more chance to win you some game than some haste xD

safe heart
foggy ravine
#

Yes it slaps my dude

safe heart
#

im scared

gloomy token
#

Don't be

foggy ravine
#

I’m resto main and I love draught for playing feral off spec

gloomy token
#

Wait I'm in pvp Wtf

safe heart
#

yeah it looks pretty cool but blah

#

idk

lime light
#

@edgy shale listen kid

#

If u have rake RIP moonfire on one target

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And u moonfire the other target

#

The 40% damgur gonna be lost by all of the dots or just moonfire

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Draught talk ofc

edgy shale
#

just moonfire

#

each dot is its own independent thing

gloomy token
#

Imagine talking shit

clear pulsar
#

If you're just sitting on ST it's definitely better than circle

#

Cuz like

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It also lets you bite way more

#

Circle shortening dots makes it worse than just a '33% buff to dots'

keen drift
#

Does the CC immune from legacy if the sleeper stay in effect if the Druid switches out of bear form to cat or humanoid form?

lime light
#

One day i come back from retirement, and i show u kids how to dot as feral

clear pulsar
#

Yeah right now you're still venthyr warrior abuser

lime light
#

Dont make me kurwa angry

#

Before i woke up

#

No but necro feral looks fun to play

gloomy token
#

Necro feral is fun

#

Imagine if it was good

clear pulsar
#

Nah it is good

#

This is #pvp remember

gloomy token
#

I thought there was one decent comp with necro feral

#

Did someone find something

clear pulsar
#

It's just the one comp every feral plays!?

#

If you're talking about jungle lol

gloomy token
#

Fuck off you know what i mean

clear pulsar
#

I don't

gloomy token
#

What's necro feral gel well with

clear pulsar
#

The same as non-necro feral, I think you (and everyone else) hella overrate kyrian

gloomy token
#

No i just underrate necro feral

#

I can imagine aff necferal x would pump

#

I know necro feral venthyr hunter x does things

clear pulsar
#

I think syfox plays kitty cleave on his necro but that's his alt and he would maybe just play kitty cleave regardless of covenant

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Tony's necro on main, axtin's necro on main

gloomy token
#

Would you play necro spriest x

#

What specs have synergy with our rotspec

clear pulsar
#

I think feral spr is one of two comps night fae has a good case

gloomy token
#

Im legit ignorant help me

clear pulsar
#

Idk tho it's not this dichotomy 'if you're kyrian you do burst goes, if you're necro you rot'

#

If you wanna play sabertooth you still do 10k bite into 15k+ FF into 10k bite

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As necro

gloomy token
#

Sbt tho

clear pulsar
#

Necro's worst thing is being a damp soulbind

#

No good damage soulbind sucks

gloomy token
#

Can dodge hoj/stormbolt/ blinds tho

lime light
#

The point is, necro shield is super big

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Ozze is op

#

If the games gonna be longer necro will be even stronger overall

#

For every class

forest kite
#

A good old damp meta, necro alock/boomy/rsham to Rot the world

lime light
#

Disgusting freak

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Keep walking

#

We do want ppl like u here

viscid remnant
#

I saw tony destroying ppl in 2s as necro

junior plover
junior plover
#

I used to go resto affi into monks

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But now I don't even do that most games

#

Its also good into bm hunter

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Vortex pets

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Especially if youre NF

charred pebble
#

How much haste do you ferals have? I have a measly 2%.
These are my stats currently.

clear pulsar
#

None is good

charred pebble
#

@junior plover Thanks bud, that's useful to know. I hadn't thought of that against BM.

clear pulsar
#

Doesnt matter too too much but haste is generally the last stat in priority for feral

junior plover
#

Most high level ferals seem to look for about 4% for incap into clone

junior plover
#

Alternatively mass root

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But that's overkill imo

clear pulsar
#

Yeah I think the only reason you'd play resto aff is vortex vs bm pets or ww and maybe warlock ports

junior plover
#

Ye lock ports are an option too

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You don't really need the healing it's just for vortex

clear pulsar
#

Like as a primary choice, it's a fine talent regardless

charred pebble
#

I'm still very new to druid, never used one until SL. Have 300 games so far in 2s so trying to break out of the cookie cutter to try and optimize things

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How come against WW? The sheer damage from it or vortex?

clear pulsar
#

On their port

junior plover
#

On their port or vortex the pets

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If they have clones up and you vortex them back

charred pebble
#

i see!

junior plover
#

They'll deal 60% less damage

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Or something like that

clear pulsar
#

If they use transcendence in vortex they get pulled back

junior plover
#

Also incap roar is very difficult to use on fists

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So it loses quite a bit of value

#

Also ww likes to train holy so the heals are nice

clear pulsar
#

I used to play balance or resto aff all the time for shits and giggles tho I also defaulted to barkskin leggo so I was still a livelord

#

They never expected the hotw boomie convoke

charred pebble
#

hahaha

junior plover
#

Cassidy playing today?

charred pebble
#

I always run Leader of the pack, wound and thorns against a melee and savage momentum against casters, is that about right? strength of the wild looks pretty damn good

junior plover
#

Sotw is really good

clear pulsar
#

Especially against arms hpal bro trust @junior plover

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Can't bop or parry it

junior plover
#

Savage momentum is alright but I like my TF lined up

clear pulsar
#

Actual humongous brain

junior plover
#

I might actually try

clear pulsar
#

Sotw + lotp + wound is a great default

junior plover
#

I play SOTW most games at this point

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Yeag

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Thorns into arms or ww

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Or surv

clear pulsar
#

Thorns good to kill hunter pets too

#

Actually

charred pebble
#

i suppose against ret and dk it's alot of magic damage

junior plover
#

Or feral i guess

#

Yeah thorns are good too

#

But yeah not really dk

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They can eat it

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And the slow doesn't bother them

clear pulsar
#

They can eat it, slow doesnt matter, and they can insta rez pet anyway

#

No point vs dk

charred pebble
#

Noted! This is a huge help, cheers guys

clear pulsar
#

Usually for thorns you wanna pop it after you force their charge/leap

junior plover
#

And into rogue i drop wound for thorns

clear pulsar
#

Like drag them around, spam root behind line of sight from their healer

junior plover
#

Would recommend

charred pebble
#

Yeah that's a good point, with all the resteals, wound would lose value

clear pulsar
#

And they'll just dump mobility to get to a target

#

Then you thorns and they can't swap

junior plover
#

How do you lose as rogue

#

Hoooow

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In 2s

clear pulsar
#

HOW DO YOU LOOOOOSE

#

It's my guild name

junior plover
#

I swear you can run the same script every game

clear pulsar
junior plover
#

I might parrot that

#

But I like the guildless look

charred pebble
#

We ran into rogue/ret last night and for the first time ever I noticed a debuff...daggers in the dark!!

charred pebble
#

Rogue couldn't see me so screamed to the hpriest to run on top of me and do his aoe

#

hellllo mr roguuue

clear pulsar
junior plover
#

May your soul rest in peace

#

Dagger in the dark is

#

2x larger radius

#

Than dagger in the dark

junior plover
#

There is no counterplay

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Sorry

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Than nova

#

Brainfart

clear pulsar
#

It's an actual nasterino way to fuck their opener vs rogue mage

junior plover
#

You can't aoe them out of it if they max range

charred pebble
#

We wen't up against rogue/hpala and i'd never even seen bless of summer before?!

clear pulsar
#

Your healer gets sapped you INSTA incap roar on top of them

charred pebble
#

And hpriest is dead in 1 second...

clear pulsar
#

To get them out fast

junior plover
#

Bless of summer? bearchamp

clear pulsar
#

Summer's out bears out

junior plover
charred pebble
#

Ok cool! Always thought it be important to get rake stun but guess it stops their opener

junior plover
#

My priest has often pressed nova just to get sapped 0.1 after

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0.1s

#

The range is just ridiculous

clear pulsar
#

Boomie has larger incap roar too it's kinda fucked

charred pebble
#

Any ferals you'd recommend to watch? I watch snupy occasionally

clear pulsar
#

Lots of feral streamers linked

charred pebble
#

yes boss 😉

#

Ah ha! I see them, tyty

junior plover
#

Only snupy still actively streams i think

#

Maybe tony

#

I know bean went to classic

clear pulsar
#

No?

junior plover
#

Yes triggered

clear pulsar
#

@vestal citrus add suffre to feral stream pin, it's ttv/mocfernando

junior plover
#

I mean there's lots of streamers but they rarely turn the stream on

clear pulsar
#

Zev was streaming last week yeah

junior plover
#

Still flp?

clear pulsar
#

Bean is just on tbc beta

#

But certainly he comes back to retail at some point!?

junior plover
#

Idk someone told me he's a goner for this season

clear pulsar
#

Axtin was streaming everyday for a while, fucker stopped

#

Syfoxe streams everyday

#

Tony does too

#

And mocfernando

junior plover
#

Yeah tony and snupy are the only ones that consistently come online i think

#

Idk him but mby

clear pulsar
#

Syfox everyday mf

junior plover
#

Ok but what bout my boy best feral in the world

#

Cassidy

#

Only streams up to 10 games every weekend

viscid remnant
#

isnt tony like

#

always speaking russian

junior plover
#

Not anymore

#

His healer isn't russian

#

So they talk english mid game

#

His healer aka Hydra

viscid remnant
#

ye

mental crypt
#

Axtin does stream as necrolord

tall knoll
#

I recently switched to kyrian boomie. For pve situations i probably still want to use boat right?

clear pulsar
#

Probably ask in not-pvp channels

desert mantle
#

What do boomies do in skirmishes? Obv skrims are random and chaotic in general, but do y'all try to unload the dps or try to provide cc and pew when you can pew?

#

I'm having trouble and I don't want to attribute it to being ilvl 200 lol so I'm trying to learn

junior plover
#

There isn't really gonna be any solid knowledge you'll get about skirmishes

formal mango
#

Play every skirmish like it is, a 1 v 3

lime light
#

Blizzard whyyyy

#

WHYYYY

#

Did u buff necro playstyle

#

When i retired

tardy lintel
#

What covenant do you prefer?

foggy ravine
#

necro feral is nasty

#

I main resto but I was played some necro feral, its dumb

#

20k swiftmends regularly like wtf

lime light
#

?

#

How necro buffs your swiftmend ?

#

Or u mean resto swiftmend ?

clear pulsar
#

Venthyr actually buffs your swiftmends

#

Two different ways

foggy ravine
#

oh idk im a resto main but I was just playing some feral and was getting fat swiftmends, the bleeds are just gnarly though

#

felt unkillable really and you can play resto aff comfortably I feel

#

I suppose draught rejuv + swiftmend conduit helps for fat swiftmends

solemn sierra
#

If you can stand still for 4 seconds as a resto druid, you are casting tranquility

#

Or you’ve been cc’d

clear pulsar
foggy ravine
#

resto main, I ain't swapping my conduits lol cba

#

but also axtin plays that conduit

#

or maybe not him swear I saw a feral running it

#

thought it was weird

junior plover
#

Nothing to do with necro

foggy ravine
#

kinda nutty

junior plover
#

Well before dampen anyway

#

U get to full hp swiftmend at like 30% dampen with resto

#

Maybe 40% even

foggy ravine
#

ye was dumb played some yesterday and had 1.6k hps the entire game and stilll pumped dam

junior plover
#

I'm telling you kitty cleave with resto feral as 2nd healer in tbc

#

I take full credit

#

For when it destroys ladder

clear pulsar
#

??

junior plover
lime light
#

Ofc feral gonna be pumper

#

Legit unkillable in bear form

#

2nd healer

#

And decent dm

#

Dam

#

Huge CC

foggy ravine
#

idk I don't mind

#

I like a little stronger swiftmend

dusk merlin
#

is kyrian boomie with boat ok or am i gimping myself?

#

instead of dreambinder

viscid remnant
#

how do u not die to warr while playing feral/hpriest

#

maybe i just played with dogshit ferals idk

#

warr extremely frustrating to face in 2s

clear pulsar
#

It depends on other things than just that

#

Like if it's a night fae feral vs arms hpal, you kinda can't win

#

Well you can ofc cuz everyone's shit

#

And we all misplay all the time

#

But you shouldn't

#

If you're necro then you can oom hpal probably

#

If it's another healer then it's just forcing trinkets with good cross cc into a convoke kill

stray sigil
#

should never win vs like warr rdru

#

war hpal is ruff if they train ur healer

#

war/priest too cuz priest is mega bad vs mindgames

arctic wind
#

Also your pressure is more streamlined like this compared to convoke where you have to rely on 2 min cooldown. With Kyrian you can burst with FoE and Empowerment every 1 minute! Combine that with the trinket and you have a mini CA every 1 min.

dusk merlin
#

Thanks man

clear pulsar
#

Boat is absolutely not the only leggo lol

arctic wind
#

Tbh imho Convoke is just cheesing a oneshot.

#

Its fun though ngl

haughty compass
#

Every spec in the game is a Cooldown kill game

#

Convoke is just flashy

arctic wind
#

I guess ye

clear pulsar
#

Above 2700

#

'Only leggo'

arctic wind
#

Aight chill bruv. Srry if I offended you. ***************IMO its the only.

#

Its easier to spam 3 surges where 2 of them almost always crit for 10k+ in Ecplipses than keeping up a 20% buff.

clear pulsar
#

That is

lime light
#

Face i will send u some juice

clear pulsar
#

Quite a take

lime light
#

in pw

#

oki?

clear pulsar
#

Oki

tardy hare
#

"keeping up a 20% buff"

#

What

#

Go full astral power

#

Press surge until u cant

#

Whats hard about it

#

Rofl

stray sigil
#

🧑‍🌾

clear pulsar
#

30 mins til awc boys

stray sigil
#

wow esports

junior plover
#

HOW DO YOU LOOOOSE AS WARRIOR

#

Real talk tho u can win with convoke but shit's though

junior plover
viscid remnant
#

yeah warr just

#

presses w 123

#

gg go next

ebon vortex
#

god this season sucks

#

playing arms/destro/rdruid rn and all i can think is how much better it would be if the destro was a mage lmfao

#

idk how they managed to make a worse meta than corruption

clear pulsar
#

What a little bitch attitude lol

junior plover
#

^

#

U picked the only bad caster

#

For a warrior

#

And say the meta is shit

ebon vortex
#

in previous season i could play whatever and also play like a mongo and get 1800 free

#

now it just feels like ass every game

junior plover
#

Sounds like the game got better then

clear pulsar
#

So it's bad cuz you're stuck below where you think you 'deserve'

#

Hurr

junior plover
#

If you actually need to know what ure doing

#

To get rewards

#

Just wish warriors had that issue too

ebon vortex
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its just not fun being clapped constantly at 1600 lol

clear pulsar
junior plover
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I mean

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No one to blame for that

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But yourself

clear pulsar
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This season I've been consistent same rating as last season

ebon vortex
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plus i constantly see people like 20 ilvl higher than me

junior plover
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The ilvl I sympathize with

clear pulsar
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Again, not unlike last season either

junior plover
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I think it's bullshit

ebon vortex
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last season had scaling despite how dumb it was

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it did something at least lol

junior plover
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But last season rating was too easy regardless

ebon vortex
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no conquest catchup or anything this season

junior plover
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So complaining that now it's harder is weird

ebon vortex
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which is also dumb like it was already in the game lol

junior plover
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I guess I would've been glad s4 bfa but I'm hovering 2.2/2.3 now

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Never crossed my mind to complain

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That game is too hard now

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When I'm glad I'll get glad

ebon vortex
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its not even that still

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the meta is also just insanely unfun to heal

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every hot on a dps, spamming regrowth and they still can die

junior plover
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Yeah I've heard that and I can't comment cuz i don't heal

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So you're probably right

ebon vortex
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i mean thats my gripe with the season overall

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last season had like gushing wound and that sucked to heal

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idk just feels like theyre thinking about dps way more than healers

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if the damage was flattened out a bit rather than all being contained in a cooldown it would feel like 80x better

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like fire mage is the best example of this, they sheep bot until combust is ready then absolutely blast

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which is prolly fun when youre playing it but terrible to heal

junior plover
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I am all in favor of nerfing both healing and damage across the board

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So that once you get someone down to 5%

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It doesn't take 0.1s for a healer to top them up

ebon vortex
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yeah thats also dumb lmfao

junior plover
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Even if getting them down to 5% in the first place will be harder

lime light
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how is warlock bad with warrior

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its not

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but u need the mindset to play it

junior plover
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Idk it's not bad it's just not good

lime light
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all u need to do as destro is

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kite

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and spam insants

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u never go for cb

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almost

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affi would be better

junior plover
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Arms can be ignored and DRs with warlock cc

lime light
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but there is a destro build

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around instnats

ebon vortex
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you can also stop kicks with intervene

lime light
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just few

ebon vortex
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which is basically all that won us games lol

lime light
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just kite whole game

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let warrior sit in battle

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and do unhealable dam

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spam insants

ebon vortex
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yea

lime light
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infernal on cds

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for max damgur

ebon vortex
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thats bascailly what we do lol

lime light
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the only moment when u cast is

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double coil

ebon vortex
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just waiting for my spriest friend to login to play shadowplay instead lol

lime light
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or maybe bolt one guy that has kick rdy

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kinda same playstyle as thunder

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i wonder why they picked ww over arms

ebon vortex
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hoping that the pvp talent refresh they announced at blizzcon actually does something too

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rdruids pvp talents are very meh against casters rn

lime light
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mark?

ebon vortex
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mark is meh

lime light
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its also kinda cheap

ebon vortex
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its good for purge protection

lime light
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and applies buff to 3 targets

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does it works on pets tho?

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the mark?

ebon vortex
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never actually checked

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high winds is decent enough

lime light
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is it tho

ebon vortex
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kinda requires positioning to get it off tho

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early spring is an extra hot

clear pulsar
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Pets already take 80% reduced aoe damage

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Mark applying to pets doesnt matter

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Lol

viscid remnant
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rdruid talent are kinda dog

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honor talents **

ebon vortex
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i mean against melee they are fiine

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thorns/focused growth/reactive resin is quite good

viscid remnant
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ehh i mean

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reactive resin doesnt feel very impactful most of the time i dont notice it

lime light
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isnt also the deep root

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honor talent

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rly good into everything