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Verdant infusion
dude this game sucks
like a 5 game loss in rbgs
cus dps are so fucking braindead
moshpit mid in WSG while efc troll strolls right past them
dude picks up flag, and drops it in a middle of a teamfight
"tank sucks couldnt pick up flag"

dude low cr everything is hilarious
no one takes the cooldown buff in uhhh
that one 5 base map not arathi
i just sit bear and have a full 2x incarn duration and 3 bum ass dps cant overcap
the mop one
Chinese ab

gorge is just the most fun with a good team you just peel and dam all game
does anyone know if you lose your rbg rating when you faction and server change?
nice
just hit 1800 and want to join friends horde, but iu still need honor to upgrade
yeah being low cr the biggest problem is no one knows how to proper damage
losing a bg because cus enemy team is top 5 dmg done burst classes is whack
Does anyone know when to use tank leggo over eye when playing feral?
dam? i don't care about the dam they do, i get pissed by how they base sit
"how did that rogue cap on you" "oh I trinketted sap immediately" liek ok cool
or the tank in WSG is fighting in mid instead of going for flag
or when we do 1 man rogue O team 9 man D team
that one drives me insane actually
"rogue why aren't you killing their FC" oh idk cuz there's 2 hpals and a disc next to him?
good dam bypasses that imo
maybe on WSG, but base maps having ppl who know how to cap / hold bases is more important imo
yeah the amount of people who dont know how to spin
would make michael jackson shed a tear
facts
Rbg is ape bracket not surprising it is populated by people who didnt evolve to homo sapiens yet
i used to think yolo was fun, but when I actually learned more about how to play RBGs its painful how dumb people are
ya, its like if ur playing the game u might as well play
even if ur massively outgeared u can easily win thru smart play, except its way more annoying in WSG maps
You can play to 2.2k without any gear tbh on most maps
orbs is another one ppl hate, but I like it
@clear pulsar u see what this man is saying
temple of kotmogu
ehh, haven't ppl moved past boomies kinda? I feel like ppl are loving locks these days idk
that map is def the biggest shitshow
very back n forth al ot of the time
i think silvershard mine is my single favorite map and AB
u can big brain ppl on mine so fucking hard
AB is aids
hate silvershard
Imo ofc :)

why?
to which
uhh i kinda wanna know ur opinion on all of them, but deepwind is wat i meant

its just same flat base in every corner
ya that was me trying to dip into a teamfight on rogue, its like ok guys im gonan smoke bomb kidney this guy lets try to ki- and im dead
there's a lot of small skirmishes on that map and its back n forth and u can win w/ a gear discrepancy is why i like it, but i see what ur saying
u can win any map w/ a gear discrepancy obv but it just feels way easier on big maps
i guess when ur at a higher rating and not gearing alts, u dont give a shit about the gear thing cuz erveryone is geared anyway
well yea
i don't mind AB as much because there's diff base design and map vision
deepwind is so plain
and cd reset pickup is giga stupid
Idk i hate the style of constantly rotating between bases
you can't see shit from any base in deepwind, except for GM on AB you have vision
only same base design on AB is farm/st
deepwind is just a mirror
also the resource gain is slow af
due to the layout it's also hard to ninja
just very boring map
have i just not noticed that the conquest badge of ferocity gives crit not haste?
but the honor one gives haste
yes
dang
wonder if it's worth getting a 207 badge from a 197
only real conquest upgrade, my other slots are 226 non vers but dont have anything close to that for those slots
did it
fingers crossed for vault options then!
I just feel like without badge i dont do any damage as nf boomie between convoke goes in 2s. And the survivability is so high even as boomie, that i can get away with taking badge. Or is the passive 60 int enough from the hp one and outweighs the 130 something active from badge?
for feral pvp, +32 Vers or +5% speed? im inclined for the latter
any thoughts on 2/3/5 in rated battlegrounds vs the normal 1/3/6.
Speed kinda meme, more dam more good!?
just a thought. like in the hold the points you are down a player any way you slice it. have 2 tanks 1 on each may reduce the need to send the entire team to protect it.
Idk some people use speed gem in the AWC but mostly healers
Tanks aren't particularly good base sitters
I played like this on eye of the storm and deepwind gorge
Battlemaster is still lower dps but marginally so
You don't really gain any dps, you just concentrate it on a go, which is good, but BM is one of the best defensives in the game
Nah badge isnt lower dps lol
BM is kinda lit but like glyph said
You're the ultimate livelord spec in pvp already
Why run bm
True
Cause im an ape?
Ook ook
On if you're main dps and you NEED the dam but if you are then something in your comp is wrong

Question, is venthyr now worth going for doomkin if you are focusing on RBG's?
Nothing at all has changed about venthyr
If you're inclined to be venthyr, the situation is the same as ever
I can see BM being good. Im just playing 2s with ret/boomie mostly. So against things like spriest/warlock or maybe ww/healer its probably nice for that extra defensive cd
Thanks for the infos :)
Venthyr boomie is pretty damn good in rbgs if your goal is to run the enemy healers out of mana in the zerg. Going full dot/starfall build with circle and all that jazz
Thing is its only good for that specific scenario i guess
As boomie the venthyr ability is pretty nutty. And starfall ofc. Big aoe dmg
Convoke braindead but venthyr apparently would be much more engaging and complex?
Ah
Some of the takes in here bro
Gotcha
Swear to god

As venthyr boomie you can just keep spamming moonfire to stack up ravenous frenzy and get pretty insane dmg, haste and crit (with conduit not sure if the fixed it so it works). Plus starfall, maybe a pi from a priest and boom. Enemy healers oom in 30 seconds 
Niya gives you basically a 25% dmg buff for 30 seconds
Don't get me wrong bro like, I'm all for playing different shit cuz your play matters more than your character setup
But lets not misrepresent ravenous frenzy as an actually good choice
Im not playing it. Just saw Rudar's video on youtube and it seems pretty nuts for rbgs specifically
Yeah you take an AWC competitor / multi rank 1 boomie playing literally anything at 500+ rating lower than where he should be, it will look really good
Rudar definitely cashing in on them clickbaity titles and thumbnails with stream highlights stomping noobs
Rbgs also have players wearing 0 PvP gear getting hit for more than they should
Where as if you care about being a moonkin even in PvE you'd stack Mastery and Vers
Lots of players that get owned have less than 8-10% vers

LFG has such a dumb obsession with vers %
It's very unlikely anyone gets into any groups with that low of vers
Even if it really really doesnt matter nearly as much as they make it out to

Pvp lfg in general. But i guess its an easy way to seed out pve-players? Unless its like a ww monk which has vers/mastery as main stat anyway 
Also just saying i love this emote Kiosk. Or just all the emotes on this server in general really





Wat
How dare you flex on me like that
Everyone calm down


Hi. nothing in the stickies, For resto druid, which legendary is optimal for RBG specifically?
Hey guys im new to Drood, wanna Play Guardian only in RBGs, which Cov should i choose? And Which Soulbind?
Convoke is nice for sitting base as Guardian
cuz you can actually possibly kill someone
but im not a rbg frog so i cant really say which is best
Im necro atm for the BIG shield 😅
Thwre is nothing on the internet About Guardian RBG xD
From what I've heard, cov doesn't really matter but I'd say nf or kyrian if you want to play another spec in any other content. Use sleeper legendary. Have absolutely no idea abt soulbind, might be able to ask #guardian on soulbinds.
@fading stump you literally do nothing
you stealth to flag
and get this, you pick up the flag
you w key back to your side of the map
press incarn with sleeper
cap flag
Legend
homie up here getting 226 gear watching meme compilations on youtube

@tardy hare theres no sound
from youtub

FIXED
THANKS BOSS
honestly lost count from the times somebody nearly capped the flag NEXT TO ME
while i was close to falling asleep
in rbg
happened to me twice yesterday

Literally capped in front of me
as i was watching something
im just on youtube
yep
eyes nearly closed
my team not doing so well
true



fucking pooped the bug to death
fucking censored memes
Cracked
Ibf? There is a conduit to reduce the cd I'm pretty sure
ye i think so too
Balance, should I go kyrian or stay NF? Playing 3s with afflock + discpriest
Gna test it :9
Dont rly like convo, dont get much value out of it since it's insta kick,fear,los,stuns etc
Just remembered the downside with kyrian.. It's miles away from Oribos :U
Feral seems pretty cool rn, i was convoking and it's pretty cool but wanted to try something new and more consistent, necrolord or kyrian?
that fleshcraft conduit that gives u a cc immunity seems kinda cool
as feral your only real options are NF and Kyrian
necro only good for resto
Meta boomkin necro circle
is symmetry the only viable legendary for for feral rbg? Most of what I read is more arena specific
Feral rbg kinda non existent thats why
😦
ya not true
icy is where I usually start and then tweak from there
yea
i mean it’s decent on feral
but convoke leagues better
if you can get it off anyway often gets interupted by something in bgs
such a huge telegraph
so for resto, is necro the way?
if you're trying to do something other than convoke than possibly. Mostly I've seen necro talk for feral rather than resto though
is convoke even a thing for resto?
i mean, necro got great defensives
speaking from feral pov
cuz someone said convoke is "miles" better
leagues better myb
I love necro as resto- mind you I suck but it’s cool
Imagine swarm+bleeds could be a nightmare too
How hard is 2400 and how many hours a week will it take the average player.
I find it's hard to get groups to even get combatant right now...
ive been working on 2400 for months and im only at 1850
its all gunna depend on how good you are at making friends who are good at world of warcraft mostly
Lmao stop enji
Necro is absolute bis for resto in arena. Convoke is good for feral, but it's not even the general default 'best,' that would be kyrian, and after that night fae vs necro is kinda a toss up, match up and comp will make one feel better than the other at any given day
Also icy-veins is super sketchy for pvp
huh I though kyrian fell out of favor last I saw and necro had moved up with 9.0.5 for feral. Resto I unno I usually just see people rolling convoke
Night fae is only good for resto for stomping low rating 2s
I considered trying necro for feral, but the whole swapping thing
Or selling carries
People who play night fae resto are pveers having fun in pvp
Anyone whose primary end-game focus is pvp is necro
Idk swapping isn't that big of a deal imo
I've swapped uuh 10 times on main
5 times on alt!?
O_o

i found a new priest whos a gamer dude
Enji is the new noodle
on the rise
who u callin a noodle
Swarm is OP for resto 9/10 would take over convoke
Memeing some hotw maim convokes in 2s would be fun doe
Noodle was this dk, just ykno, 1.9-2k rating all of legion, grabbing elite set each season but barely. Then bfa rolls around, can't get 2.1 to save his life. Begs these multi rank 1s in a pvp discord server for months and til they finally play with him, they can barely get his ass to 2.4, can't stay above the rating for glad wins playing wwdk with 2 multi rank 1 3k+ exp players. Then he started rolling with the discourse that wow arena is simply about knowing people.
I know bro
Just telling you the story of noodle
Noodle was a bit of a piece of work but we loved him for who he was
how could you not with a name like noodle
Then he ragequit the servers cuz he couldn't bear getting memed on for missing glad with 2 multi 3k players

Who's noodle
Nvm
I see
Dont remember him
This was at the height of DK opness too
Like bfa season 2 with the crucible plate gear that gave infinite shields
Rofl
Before they nerfed necrotic strike
point being , i think its important to find fellow degens to play with
Lfg is pretty thin most of the time tbh
esp on ally
Oh I can’t even imagine trying to lfg alliance
theres like 12 listings
I feel like sub 1600 there’s plenty between alts and people there but after that it feels like it always take forever to form groups
Any boomies that can suggest best trinket combos in RBGs?
Sinful Gladiators Medallion/Insignia of Alacrity/Badge of Ferocity. Mastery trinket if you want. You can get away with a lot.
yea swapping is pretty chill atm
thought it would be worse
can you like prep for a swap if youre still on the fence?
like do the first quest but not the second?
so that way if you do decide to swap you can just do the quest and swap then and there?
Holy priest convoke moonkin vs bm priest whats the play?
Anyone that mains feral willing to help me learn ?
most people here yes
I am 196 item lvl which is low and i no gear will help me not get one shot but id like to make sure i am not messing up the actual play style if anyone is willing could you message me id greatly appreciate it
That was the question ? i was wondering if any horde feral mains could help show me the ropes in pvp
Like a carry?
Prolly not
If you have question tho, or replays that you want people to look at and point things out
Lots of people here are willing
Yeh im not looking for a carry if anything just duels to show me whats wrong and stuff like that i dont expect anyone to carry me in arena
I guess short answer for not getting “one shot” would be learning when to trinket and bear to soak dmg. Frenzie regen with bear affinity. Arena specifically? More variations based on your comp and there’s. I’ve seen people mention “Beans” YouTube videos for feral arena. Might help to see some play
ill check the video out thanks
I used to run resto affinity more (bgs / world pvp) but switched to bear mostly for better self sustain but give up the resto utility :/
yeh i used to think the resto affinity was the best one but i swapped to bear
is feral > boomie for arena?
No
I’m vibing with my boomy way better than my Dk
Who I main
I might slowly turn to a Druid main I’m having a blast with it
I think I found a class that I genuine vibe with and is like my spirit animal tbh
This homie is coaching the rbg group on how to climb and win arena
Originally main DK since wrath love the undead
Lecturing everyone with linking weakauras and shit
But class itself I feel vibing with boomy way better nowadays than even my Hpal as well

Trying out necro lord feral kinda curious how you guys think would be the best opener 🤔
Rake mf thrash sr ( :^) ) as ff rip clone healer
@vestal citrus do you know the rest of these people? Bunch of 18hundo ratings are they boostees or just chan and kubzy joining rando pugs?
Like hansol team fully stacked to the gills but
Enemy was very iffy
Got the other bis soulbind
Percise alignment
How can I set it up?
this is what I have rn
@clear pulsar the hocuspocus guy is tubshark or some shit
some hero rbger
im assuming thats a hero group
They got smashed
Boomers
thats not the real chan
How are you negative winrate in everything
And still top 10%
HOW DO YOU LOOOOSE
Did the little buffs to resto make much diff?
Ignored by Druid for a good while but may come back to it for a bit
Bored af waiting in LfG as dps 😂
Resto druid is one of the best healers in the game right now
But highest skill cap for sure
Huh the realm did make it sus but that is definitely real kubzy so I figured chan just xfered or something. Still they got farmed, for being 2.4 mmr they couldn't really put up much of a fight.
Especially in 2s a good rdruid is untouchable
Always max ranging and staying out of harms way and impossible to cc properly
Some of the best cc in the game as well
Overall great spec
yeah rdruid is extremely good in 2s

Even in 3s rdruid feels great right now
i havent tried much 3s but i suppose it can be good if you play with wizards
I've played both melee cleaves and wizards cleaves both feel good, melee cleaves are a bit harder to heal but still work alright
Gonna buckle down and grind my rbg rating from 1800 to 2100 over my spring break. Wondering if its worth crafting the rank 1 barkskin legendary (don't have more ash atm) for reference im sitting at 224 equipped with rank 4 ursocs, apex, circle, and draught
Playing feral and bear
Really sketchy
if you are doing any flag carrying grb sleeper over the barkskin leggo
hahahahahaahahah
Yeah sleeper only leggi u need
Can you make an addon that automatically whisper warriors when I kill them i arena
HOW DO YOU LOSE
Pls
Hey guys for 3s what would be the idea comp from these classes . Hpally and feral/boomy with a spriest/fdk
is it even worth it to keep up rip 100% right now? watching cdew and others gear up alts, they get absolutely shredded (pun intended) by ferals who barely keep up rip and they are shocked at the damage output
i might fuck around and not cast rip this weekend
Anyone else playing resto in rbg? I’m interested in leggo choices/scenarios. Also, is anyone else running full endurance on dreamweaver? I’m rolling the two frenzied regen conduits and the ursoc health+armor for big self heals when swapped to. Curious any thoughts
Whatever spec the players play better. Feral/sp is good, boomie/dk is good
Sp/boomie probably good too
If you have any kill potential next 8 seconds don't bother with rip. I'f you're just coasting waiting for opportunities it's good to rip for sustained dmg
Yeah I tend to rip outside of go's
And then rip right before I plan to start my go
For tfb
I could
tbh

I kinda wanted to get into making addons
I'll take you up on that
plz coach me
I think my problem is that my brain doesn't work fast enough
I need to get on some adderal or smth
probably better as weakaura tho
How many 3s have you queue this season?
arena was only fun in the first month where i outgeared everyone and dimwits couldnt figure out how to press button to stop convoke

i need unfair advantages to be good and have fun
I have like 1500 games of 2s this season
Probably like 1700 actually
And like 350 3s
That's like 85 hours of straight up pvp

In just 2s
Not as much as I thought honestly
People forgot about el patron
What about everyone else? How many 3s has everyone done this season?
779 2s, 892 3s
90% of my games to help shitters of my guild get some cr
10% to actually push with decent human being
i think 10% is generous
boat or dreambinder for boomie rbgs?
Like 250
is melee leeway a thing in retail still
Thefuck is melee leeway
some warrior just hit me from nearly 20 yards away without the charge execute talent and im trying to understand what hpapened lmfao
Y'all be having 3rd world country internet?
from my partners pov he wasnt even close to me, i dropped dead and the guy just turned around
he was russian tbf
the war that killed me not the guy im playing with lol
700 2s, 900 3s, @ 2k cr now first season for retail wow
how does rogues go out of combat and stealth even if I have dots on them?
condult
cloaked in shadows conduit gives shield when they stealth
so no way to really keep them in combat except if you Fury of elune or something
@sour fulcrum if they get out of combat they can go stealth. They have a stealth conduit which gives them a 10% shield so basically dots don’t break them out of stealth or bleeds like they classically did. So if they get out of combat for a half sec they pretty much are coming out when they want to lol
sounds OP for 2s
Yeah it’s good in general
I must make the pilgrimage to 2100 soon
Recently arenas have felt like things have been clicking so that's good
Do it up brotha
what would you guys recommend me to get conq gear fast when I don't care about rating?
rbg if u are non feral spec
I'm a boomie, yes :)
Is Kyrian slowly become meta now for boomies or am I still good with Convoke NF style?
I say this bec I noticed a lot of boomies are now Kyrian lately....
And Idk if my haste-heavy gear would work well with Kyrian since I heard mastery is the way to go for Kyrian while Haste is for NF
i dont know where you heard haste was more for nf than kyrian. Since NF ability doesnt even scale with haste to begin with
dude....
also, kyrian and NF as always been the 2 viable choice for boomy
haste is 2ndary stat for pvp due to the cyclones as well as casting faster
nothing has changed
ok
yes, haste is the best after vers
tho Haste is supposedly the primary stat (besides verse) for NF
but not more for night fae than kyrian
oh so its good for both then?
yes
yes
ok good just making sure
incase Blizz decides to buff Kyrian or nerf NF or do something to change the cov meta for boomies
kyrian has always been the more consistent option, but both work fine
ya NF is p sick in rbgs
3 boomkin team is stupid u can just rotate hard on a base and cap instant
but a kyrian go with deep root beam on a healer is gnarly too
Been playing with a rogue lately
Its amazing when rogue stun locks healer and attacks the main target
I just sit in stealth waiting for the healer so use medallion and after he uses medallion I Root beam or cyclone him and I thanos the enemy target
hi guys, what covenant should i go for 2v2 with sp as a feral? Not sure if it's Kyrian or Night fae
I'm going to make a Weak Aura to let me know when my focus target is in burst mode so I can do Solar Beam on him. I've got it looking for Combustion and Convoke the Spirits, what are other good class burst buffs to look for?
Got ghosted and /ignored by my new partner I thought I was playing well with lol 😕
There's potential blizzard is super silly and buffs the defensive of all druids with guardian affinity haha
So i am not good at macro's but i'm trying to build a macro that will wild charge my focus target, if i have no focus target my mouseover target, if i have neither a Focus or Mouseover then just my current target, is that something that can be done, i came up with this and of course it didn't work
#showtooltip
/cast [@focus,harm,nodead] [@mouseover,harm,nodead] [] Wild Charge
Lol maybe my stupid ass will be able to break 1800
/cast [@focus,exists,harm,nodead] [@mouseover,exists,harm,nodead][] Wild Charge
Sup guys! Ive seen lots of pro switching to necrolord with boomie and feral! Can anyone explaine why?
Is adaptive swarm such a good dmh spell or with only for defensive?
When both players are moving in the same direction melee attacks get significantly more range
I don't think it's a thing tho, no @ebon vortex
It got removed around the same time batching did I think
There are no necro boomkins at high level
It's restos logged out as boomkin
Necro Feral is really good in BM Jungle
Necro circle boom is meta
Probably the best feral comp right now
Generally Kyrian/NF is better but specifically in BM jungle necro feral just slaps
@junior plover maybe you know which covenant is better to play 2s with sp for feral?
They're both good especially in double dps
Just play what sounds more fun to you, both feel nice
Curious what feral is taking as an affinity in 2s with a holy priest. Currently run guardian affinity and it’s super helpful for an easy out with roar and frenzied but wondering if I should really be playing resto affinity? Does one shine against certain comps better than others? I imagine against rogue/mage it’s guardian affinity always. 1600CR btw.
Wut
?
yea its boat or db
most ppl who are NF go boat but DB is still good
ah, ok thanks.
For Boomie are people using the 197 On-use with Haste Trinket or the On-use with Crit trinket from Conquest?
I'm finding myself using the Haste Honour version.
I also have the Int-Proc with Haste Trinket but I like using the On-use with Fury of Elune.
is mother tree decent for rbg?
I only have the 213 Conq
You want that int from the on use. Burst kill ppl, not some secondary stats :>
Int/versa/health is what matter, secondary stats don't change shit, these 2% crit from Conquest trinket in fact have more chance to win you some game than some haste xD
Yes it slaps my dude
im scared
Don't be
I’m resto main and I love draught for playing feral off spec
Wait I'm in pvp Wtf
@edgy shale listen kid
If u have rake RIP moonfire on one target
And u moonfire the other target
The 40% damgur gonna be lost by all of the dots or just moonfire
Draught talk ofc
Imagine talking shit
If you're just sitting on ST it's definitely better than circle
Cuz like
It also lets you bite way more
Circle shortening dots makes it worse than just a '33% buff to dots'
Does the CC immune from legacy if the sleeper stay in effect if the Druid switches out of bear form to cat or humanoid form?
Fuck off you know what i mean
I don't
What's necro feral gel well with
The same as non-necro feral, I think you (and everyone else) hella overrate kyrian
No i just underrate necro feral
I can imagine aff necferal x would pump
I know necro feral venthyr hunter x does things
I think syfox plays kitty cleave on his necro but that's his alt and he would maybe just play kitty cleave regardless of covenant
Tony's necro on main, axtin's necro on main
I think feral spr is one of two comps night fae has a good case
Im legit ignorant help me
Idk tho it's not this dichotomy 'if you're kyrian you do burst goes, if you're necro you rot'
If you wanna play sabertooth you still do 10k bite into 15k+ FF into 10k bite
As necro
Sbt tho
Can dodge hoj/stormbolt/ blinds tho
The point is, necro shield is super big
Ozze is op
If the games gonna be longer necro will be even stronger overall
For every class
A good old damp meta, necro alock/boomy/rsham to Rot the world
I saw tony destroying ppl in 2s as necro

I play almost exclusively guardian affi
I used to go resto affi into monks
But now I don't even do that most games
Its also good into bm hunter
Vortex pets
Especially if youre NF
How much haste do you ferals have? I have a measly 2%.
These are my stats currently.
None is good
@junior plover Thanks bud, that's useful to know. I hadn't thought of that against BM.
Doesnt matter too too much but haste is generally the last stat in priority for feral
Most high level ferals seem to look for about 4% for incap into clone
yeah finding convoke in that matchup without vortex is a joke
Alternatively mass root
But that's overkill imo
Yeah I think the only reason you'd play resto aff is vortex vs bm pets or ww and maybe warlock ports
Ye lock ports are an option too
You don't really need the healing it's just for vortex
Like as a primary choice, it's a fine talent regardless
I'm still very new to druid, never used one until SL. Have 300 games so far in 2s so trying to break out of the cookie cutter to try and optimize things
How come against WW? The sheer damage from it or vortex?
On their port
i see!
If they use transcendence in vortex they get pulled back
Also incap roar is very difficult to use on fists
So it loses quite a bit of value
Also ww likes to train holy so the heals are nice
I used to play balance or resto aff all the time for shits and giggles tho I also defaulted to barkskin leggo so I was still a livelord
They never expected the hotw boomie convoke

hahaha
I always run Leader of the pack, wound and thorns against a melee and savage momentum against casters, is that about right? strength of the wild looks pretty damn good
Sotw is really good
Savage momentum is alright but I like my TF lined up
Actual humongous brain

I might actually try
Sotw + lotp + wound is a great default
i suppose against ret and dk it's alot of magic damage
Or feral i guess
Yeah thorns are good too
But yeah not really dk
They can eat it
And the slow doesn't bother them
They can eat it, slow doesnt matter, and they can insta rez pet anyway
No point vs dk
Noted! This is a huge help, cheers guys
Usually for thorns you wanna pop it after you force their charge/leap
And into rogue i drop wound for thorns
Like drag them around, spam root behind line of sight from their healer
Would recommend
Yeah that's a good point, with all the resteals, wound would lose value
And they'll just dump mobility to get to a target
Then you thorns and they can't swap
I swear you can run the same script every game


I might parrot that
But I like the guildless look
We ran into rogue/ret last night and for the first time ever I noticed a debuff...daggers in the dark!!

Rogue couldn't see me so screamed to the hpriest to run on top of me and do his aoe
hellllo mr roguuue

May your soul rest in peace
Dagger in the dark is
2x larger radius
Than dagger in the dark
Just use incap roar
It's an actual nasterino way to fuck their opener vs rogue mage
You can't aoe them out of it if they max range
We wen't up against rogue/hpala and i'd never even seen bless of summer before?!
Your healer gets sapped you INSTA incap roar on top of them
And hpriest is dead in 1 second...
To get them out fast
Bless of summer? 
Sap is higher range than incap tho, no?
Ok cool! Always thought it be important to get rake stun but guess it stops their opener
My priest has often pressed nova just to get sapped 0.1 after
0.1s
The range is just ridiculous
Boomie has larger incap roar too it's kinda fucked
Any ferals you'd recommend to watch? I watch snupy occasionally
Only snupy still actively streams i think
Maybe tony
I know bean went to classic
No?
Yes 
@vestal citrus add suffre to feral stream pin, it's ttv/mocfernando
I mean there's lots of streamers but they rarely turn the stream on
Zev was streaming last week yeah
Still flp?
Idk someone told me he's a goner for this season
Axtin was streaming everyday for a while, fucker stopped
Syfoxe streams everyday
Tony does too
And mocfernando
Yeah tony and snupy are the only ones that consistently come online i think
Idk him but mby

Ok but what bout my boy best feral in the world
Cassidy
Only streams up to 10 games every weekend
Not anymore
His healer isn't russian
So they talk english mid game
His healer aka Hydra
ye
Axtin does stream as necrolord
I recently switched to kyrian boomie. For pve situations i probably still want to use boat right?
Probably ask in not-pvp channels
What do boomies do in skirmishes? Obv skrims are random and chaotic in general, but do y'all try to unload the dps or try to provide cc and pew when you can pew?
I'm having trouble and I don't want to attribute it to being ilvl 200 lol so I'm trying to learn
There isn't really gonna be any solid knowledge you'll get about skirmishes
Play every skirmish like it is, a 1 v 3
What covenant do you prefer?
necro feral is nasty
I main resto but I was played some necro feral, its dumb
20k swiftmends regularly like wtf
oh idk im a resto main but I was just playing some feral and was getting fat swiftmends, the bleeds are just gnarly though
felt unkillable really and you can play resto aff comfortably I feel
I suppose draught rejuv + swiftmend conduit helps for fat swiftmends
If you can stand still for 4 seconds as a resto druid, you are casting tranquility
Or you’ve been cc’d
The issue with that is that then you're playing a shit conduit

resto main, I ain't swapping my conduits lol cba
but also axtin plays that conduit
or maybe not him swear I saw a feral running it
thought it was weird
Feral has full hp swiftmends
Nothing to do with necro
kinda nutty
Well before dampen anyway
U get to full hp swiftmend at like 30% dampen with resto
Maybe 40% even
ye was dumb played some yesterday and had 1.6k hps the entire game and stilll pumped dam
I'm telling you kitty cleave with resto feral as 2nd healer in tbc
I take full credit
For when it destroys ladder
The conduit is trash for resto too
??

Ofc feral gonna be pumper
Legit unkillable in bear form
2nd healer
And decent dm
Dam
Huge CC
how do u not die to warr while playing feral/hpriest
maybe i just played with dogshit ferals idk
warr extremely frustrating to face in 2s
It depends on other things than just that
Like if it's a night fae feral vs arms hpal, you kinda can't win
Well you can ofc cuz everyone's shit
And we all misplay all the time
But you shouldn't
If you're necro then you can oom hpal probably
If it's another healer then it's just forcing trinkets with good cross cc into a convoke kill
should never win vs like warr rdru
war hpal is ruff if they train ur healer
war/priest too cuz priest is mega bad vs mindgames
I play both specs as Kyrian, Kitty and boomy. It works well. Boat is the only real leg you can go tbh.
Also your pressure is more streamlined like this compared to convoke where you have to rely on 2 min cooldown. With Kyrian you can burst with FoE and Empowerment every 1 minute! Combine that with the trinket and you have a mini CA every 1 min.
Thanks man
Boat is absolutely not the only leggo lol
I guess ye
Aight chill bruv. Srry if I offended you. ***************IMO its the only.
Its easier to spam 3 surges where 2 of them almost always crit for 10k+ in Ecplipses than keeping up a 20% buff.
Face i will send u some juice
Quite a take
Oki
"keeping up a 20% buff"
What
Go full astral power
Press surge until u cant
Whats hard about it
Rofl
🧑🌾
U don't
HOW DO YOU LOOOOSE AS WARRIOR
Real talk tho u can win with convoke but shit's though
god this season sucks
playing arms/destro/rdruid rn and all i can think is how much better it would be if the destro was a mage lmfao
idk how they managed to make a worse meta than corruption
What a little bitch attitude lol
in previous season i could play whatever and also play like a mongo and get 1800 free
now it just feels like ass every game
Sounds like the game got better then
If you actually need to know what ure doing
To get rewards
Just wish warriors had that issue too

its just not fun being clapped constantly at 1600 lol

This season I've been consistent same rating as last season
plus i constantly see people like 20 ilvl higher than me
The ilvl I sympathize with
Again, not unlike last season either
I think it's bullshit
But last season rating was too easy regardless
no conquest catchup or anything this season
So complaining that now it's harder is weird
which is also dumb like it was already in the game lol
I guess I would've been glad s4 bfa but I'm hovering 2.2/2.3 now
Never crossed my mind to complain
That game is too hard now
When I'm glad I'll get glad
its not even that still
the meta is also just insanely unfun to heal
every hot on a dps, spamming regrowth and they still can die
Yeah I've heard that and I can't comment cuz i don't heal
So you're probably right
i mean thats my gripe with the season overall
last season had like gushing wound and that sucked to heal
idk just feels like theyre thinking about dps way more than healers
if the damage was flattened out a bit rather than all being contained in a cooldown it would feel like 80x better
like fire mage is the best example of this, they sheep bot until combust is ready then absolutely blast
which is prolly fun when youre playing it but terrible to heal
I am all in favor of nerfing both healing and damage across the board
So that once you get someone down to 5%
It doesn't take 0.1s for a healer to top them up
yeah thats also dumb lmfao
Even if getting them down to 5% in the first place will be harder
Idk it's not bad it's just not good
all u need to do as destro is
kite
and spam insants
u never go for cb
almost
affi would be better
Arms can be ignored and DRs with warlock cc
you can also stop kicks with intervene
just few
which is basically all that won us games lol
just kite whole game
let warrior sit in battle
and do unhealable dam
spam insants
yea
thats bascailly what we do lol
just waiting for my spriest friend to login to play shadowplay instead lol
or maybe bolt one guy that has kick rdy
kinda same playstyle as thunder
i wonder why they picked ww over arms
hoping that the pvp talent refresh they announced at blizzcon actually does something too
rdruids pvp talents are very meh against casters rn
mark?
mark is meh
its also kinda cheap
its good for purge protection
is it tho
i mean against melee they are fiine
thorns/focused growth/reactive resin is quite good









