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Sure
Its subjective at the end of the day though
But if im doing 10% of a dps while dpsing for most of the dungeon
i'm just not gonna bother and do something else with my time
Well thats just not happening tho right
Like if you removed all damage taken in a key resto druid coud trivially do 40k+ overall rn
And we're the lowest or 2nd lowest healer in damage output
Hpala could probably do 80k
Yeah but i dont mean situations when theres no dmg to heal, but actual keys
But you said dpsing for most of the dungeon
These real keys people press DPS buttons like 20% of their uptime maybe
Anime pfp egirl rivalry ofc
I like to optimise. I was dealing some of the highest damage in keys of all Druids in shadowlands.
But if you look at the pugging shitshow in keys, i am saving so many people by overhealing. That’s saving minutes per key.
I'm not saying our damage is relatively high, ofc, I would love a 100% buff
I‘d love to deal more damage though.
But I think healer damage as a whole is in a similar if not outright higher % contribution than in many recent seasons
what does that even mean we dont have a rivalry we're friends..
Sasuke and Naruto are friends too...
phased is getting to you too much I fear
Maybe you're right, I'll see how it turns out after prog
Something growl said was kinda fire but if you let someone die while in cat form none of your dps was really worth it that dungeon
That’s what I’m thinking when doing dps
Nobody is advocating for "letting someone die" tho mate
I’m saying you should dps
I think im just scarred by tww s2 tbh
my opinion genuinely is it's a balance. Squeezing in HoTW more is something I'm working on because it's a lot of value for very low effort. But the higher effort low value that sometimes spreading rakes well can get into on some pulls...think there's value in a point liquid kinda made about 3 or 4 healing sometimes (the story of damage went down with less healers even though they had enough HPS) - humans aren't optimal and it's a big ask for 3 dps to trust you've got it if they see their health drop. Takes a while to build that trust with friends for premade, won't have it for PUG
I hated that season ngl
or basically this put much shorter imo
That’s the risk esp with resto dps
Yeah ofc, it's part of trying and looking to improve and do better right?
That’s what the other guy was arguing but did it worse
What max said is definitely true, keeping your dps healthy will make them play better
Overhealing and being inefficient with your heals and resources is playign worse
its easy to panic when you are in constant near death
ON PURPOSE
It's crazy
Idk maybe we're just playing different restoration specs
This spec shits out more healing than any other every season that it exists in M+
Who are yall letting hang low HP as resto druid in M+
I mean im getting 99 healing and like 90 damage parse every dungeon
Like I agree w you
key parses arent real btw
Okay thanks for sharing
No nance let them agree with me
When they agree with me we dont overanalyse what they say

ok valid
Lmao
The idea of discarding something completely because it isn’t entirely representative of what your numbers are like
fucking what
Face has been fighting folks all day
hold on wtf is going on with this
parses = life
What's going on with resto why are there so many people fighting
im drunk and farming dorfs puzzlebox
Okay and what about my puzzlebox?
im a huge trader
So you don't care about me at all
look
Looking
Marmite goes crazy with it, tries to start shit on a conversation done and dusted and when I ask em to not I'M the one fighting people
@marsh prism I’m doing home improvement today
It takes two to tango mate.. not saying you are instigating anything but you are responding to questions and people are fighting u
yo?
It's still yesterday where I am sort of
Yeah I'm tlaking about yesterday
Can I get the ios of everybody participating in this conversation please
I feel like people see any kind of conflict and get scared idk
Sub 3.5k players need not yap I fear
Like everyone’s just talking
I’m 1.8k
You know what that means....
Thank youuuuuu
almost 2.7k
Look at you not causing conflict +rep
Sheeeeesh 2s?
I still stand by my statement earlier, too tired to explain tho
I got like top 5 oce with a 6:1 rejuv ratio
I literally boosted Druid this season lmao
I think I hung up shuffle 3 lobbies in 800 cr, I'm gaming.
Unfortunately the elite mog this season is worse than the base for me personally, I hate that it didn't unlock base when I got it
I've seen some people have like a cd countdowns like old WA does, what addon is that? like when it says stuff like "tranq in 10"
Might just crate farm on an alt druid
For CD assignments in raid I think it's NorthernSky Raid tools or something like that
It is Northern Sky yes
It's in the reminders tab, on the right side, "personal reminders", then you import your cds and it TTS tells you when to pop them
yeye, should be easy enough to navigate, thanks
Hi everyone ! I am trying to push 14/15 keys, but i am starting to struggle to keep up with incoming dmg, do you have any tips or ideas for this level of content ?
Im a new player and will soon try my hands on m+ (almost lvl 90 :D). Would you advise to do dps or don't from the start on? (I could see arguments for both sides tbh)
know the incoming damage better and prepare what you are gonna do more
im an experienced player and untill i know the dungeons well i dont touch dps
healing first and damage will come with practice 🙂
So learn the dmg patterns of the dungeons >> how to heal them >> figure out when I have moments to dps?
Yeah I'm trying to do that, but my life is basically ramp all the time and I still fall short, especially on those debuffs like the bird on spire, 2 targets very high DMG
You don't really need to think about it, focus on healing and it will come naturally with experience
saying your life is ramp all the time makes me think you dont know the incoming damage well
Thanks 🙂
DPSing is part of optimizing your cntributions but you need to learn to heal first
Fair point, guess I'm back to the mdt board xD
Im at the part where i feel confident in my healing and trying to push my damage a bit more
Yeeh I get that "optimal" play would have dps, since healing every cd sounds insane (I dont believe the dungs will work that way)
in the past for me its been "have I prepared enough for the incoming damage?" if yes go to cat. and that knowledge will come with repetition
Right, it's not that and I dont think it has been that properly without Flourish (so any season where Photo was the standard pick)
I suppose right now it's a little more of that, rejuv and LB are strong as shit
But pointed spothealing during damage events is always best
And do you use the NS convoke macro in dungs or is that overkill there and you'd rather use NS regrowths?
Yeah I think it'd be better to keep NS as a separate tool
With LB and rejuvs up, people topped or closed to topped, i dont see a reason not to go at least apply my dots for instance, get a finisher, swap back to healing to press a swiftmend etc
Ofc, what I mean was that properly spothealing through damage events has typically been better
Than overprepping and hoping hots cover it
Oh yea im just stating what im trying to do atm
Im very new and anxious to not let anyone die but i want to contribute more than that
Because i know thats where the skill progression is
I think treating your rotation/gameplay as having these 'windows' to catweave isn't the most helpful approach, I think you take it spell by spell these days, altho ofc that maybe takes more of a concentration toll
Im taking on extra things as the game "slows down" for me
Yeah that's fair
And when I hit 90. Would you advise for me to use hero crests on my crafted gear (especially the 2 hander)? Im not sure if it would be reasonable for me to already get Myth crests without it
2 days ago i was struggling with doing smooth, gcd rolling cat form swaps, last night in +6s i was managing that fairly well
And nobody has died in one of my runs so far
Outside of a one shot i couldnt do anything about
Anyone know an addon that can play a repeating 'Lifebloom' sound when it's not active during combat
Yes theres one
Purrformance here made one
Its exactly what you describe
Look for purrformance and check his bio
thx alot
Can you link their io?
Im also interested in what the good players use here to improve their skill? I landed on watching some yt videos, checking logs for raids and joining this group. Are their other cool tools I could be using?
In the same vein
Is there someone yall would recommend to study vods and streams for resto
Fuck this
Why they removed stack tree prepull
Cause we were doing too much healing
With the 12.0.5 release they should give us a global nerf for ~10-15%.
Then we‘re perfectly fine and the gameplay would be fun.
Why are you assuming it will be such a large buff
I‘d even expect a massive buff, after receiving a global 15% nerf.
What would you expect can the new Everbloom provide?
Depends on the tuning of it, right?
They can't make it do 40% of our healing
So if it were doing too much on ptr it'd get nerfed instead of nerfing the rest of our kit
how do i get back into reforest tree if i roar or something?
Yeah let’s see how they tune it.
But currently the 40% would be realistic.
Cant
Hey guys, little question. I don't wanna push in M+ but just make some +12/13 and I have some trouble to play in catform. Do you tinnk, is it possible to play with Keeper of The Grove and be ok in M+ Or I absotuley need to play with Wildstalker?
To my knowledge none of the other apexes do nearly as much
That's 10% per point
Utterly insane and obviously won't go live like that
Closer to 17% per point if it was 40% of your meter
I havent seen any numbers on a real performance from it tho idk if it does 40% of your meter
What even is there to test on PTR
Cat has nothing to do with wildstalker healing aspec
Read the talents
anything got changed to refo?
Would you in raid always sync refo tree with convoke? (so this could mean wasting some secs on pressing swiftmend on cd)
How do we feel about Litany of lightblind wrath
I don't bother personally
Swiftmend is more important to me
Aye thanks. Renewing surge would feel like a dead talent otherwise
Just got it in a pug and the disc was very upset with me and told me it was our worst trinket in the game lol
And is your mindset for the spell after swiftmend, more to always rejuve (since I think that in a vacuum is more efficient) or rather fit it in what's logical if you're currently ramping (rejuve) or burning (regrowth)?
Its pretty shit now
I was given a heroic one in raid last night and trying to decide if its worth using for M+ at least. I am unsure if it has any benefit in raid.
I would always use on rejuv
The only time I've used it on regrowth were absorbs on paladins
wtf did they do to refo prepull :((
And that only once per absorb rotation otherwise your abundance drops too low
Thanks again Torty
blizz meter also lies

do we let Lifebloom fall off before we refresh it or do we just keep it up refreshing in the “pandemic” window
Keep it up
If you let it fall down you lose apex stacks
yeh i thought so
i need to spend some time learning/reading some more i’m a little out of practice on some parts
Of course if you play raid/apexless it's less relevant but it's still good practice to keep a good uptime
yes
i keep it as close to 100 as i can
obviously no dmg going out idc to keep it up and id rather do some minuscule damage myself
i’ve been able to get like 11k dps at the end of a key so far
never more
That's pretty low and your dps matters more than you might expect
idk how to do more
Check the pinned message
i mean it would be more on trash than anything
yeh i read that
it’s just my AOE dmg
i was doing some bear weaving i also trying to do some boomy
but i wasn’t using kotg
do we as resto innervate our holy pallies or is that weird
thats what i assumed ty
ok im not crazy haha
Its under midnight resources
which dungeon drops the best ring? and should i spam it on repeat
or is the chance of getting it so low i may as well just push keys and pray something drops along the way
Magister and nexus point
Farming 10 mt for vault and bi ring atm feels so chill but no idea on % and already have another hasty mastery ring shrug 🤷♀️
smart people, for resto pvp is it staff or 1hand/offhand
that link is dead in ressources
What’s the fastest 10 to spam for vault on alts ? Nexus point ?
Skyreach has the shortest timer
Thanks we'll remove it. I don't know if any site still has a mage tower guide
The difficulty just zig zags too hard patch by patch
yeah that's fair
damn low keys are full of bad ppl
shocking
If you're blasters nexus point is solidly the fastest yeah
My record is 1338
Evokes doing the same amount of healing with his right toe
And they never nerfed this fucking dragon
Shut the discord down!!!

hey question, while i'm leveling, what spec should i have valeera as on delves? or should i just avoid delves altogether? ive been just doing timewalking tbh but I'm curious
Hey do we know of any reforestation bugs? been using SM on cooldown for the past 2 min without seing any stacks
i wonder which dungeon to do next
pit of saron
Hotfixed to no longer build stacks out of combat. Edit: In raid instances. Is it not building stacks outside of raid instances?
Only been checking inside raid instance, but that is some bullshit
is it dps valeera?
i have dps valeera because i level as guardian
if you level as dps/resto you want tank valeera
Resto can with dps valeera
tank valeera is pretty much worthless. I run DPS as all 3 specs at this point
Same. I've always levelled Guardian for the fun "how many mobs can I pull at once" mini-game and veritable invincibility. Same in Delves. DPS Valeera.
i recommend leveling as guardian because it is absurdly easy and fast
In delves not so much dmg
you guys are trippin, tank valeera trucks
Nah
for leveling just do dps val as guardian
tank val pre-90 seems to just do 0 damage compared to at 90 for me
tank valeera is broken in leveling i think for healer, was the first thing i did and she got one tapped lmao yeah
thats been fixed
i dont think so, started leveling my rogue yesterday and she was dead 24/7
oh really? dang that was like. yesterday or the day before
or its bugged again
could be also level scaling, i was at level 80
same kaboss
that said i just put her on dps rn and shes doing fine with me on resto so i might just keep doing that while im bored of dungeons. im not against going guardian but i just like playing resto!
That's what's great about Delves. Play it your way.
hey my friends which talents do u play in M+ and in raid ?
i did valeera tank as spriest dps like two days ago and she got immediately flattened
so she's healer for now
the builds on wowhead are very good, they cover what most people are using
I'm looking to better understand the numbers in the game. From the looks of things, most spells/skills are just attack/spell power x coefficient. For example, rejuvenation is Spell power x 321.2% coefficient. Assuming no other modifiers, at 1000 spellpower, rejuv should heal for 3212 over 12 seconds, correct? Does the coefficient change based on level? Or is it consistent? I seem to be missing something because when I do the calculations, the number i'm getting seems to be lower than the tooltip. It's like i'm missing a modifier somewhere.
this is an effort in futility
blizz has hidden scaling for pve/pvp and level modifiers in all content
but yes, it is just spell power x coefficient
there used to be an addon that would replace all spell text on tooltips with the actual formula and plug in your stats so you could see it written out for clarity
That's more or less what i'm trying to do. I want to see the math behind whether something is an upgrade or not
it's made more difficult because a lot of tooltips are just incorrect
apply at blizzard, get the code... about the only way it's going to be accurate
the calculated number you see doesn't take specific talents or passives into account
because its spaghetti code
and the person who writes tooltips in an intern
ok I agree it is convoluted but I am not sure why we are getting carried away
Is there a breakdown of how much %healing increase you get from 2p/4p in raid?
an example would be enchants for pvp. The intellect stat is obviously the choice for hps, but i'm curious how far the vers enchant is in terms of throughput to see if I prefer the defensive side of vers
it's annoying but also straightforward to work out how much a rejuv should heal
but I was afraid of this after testing it on various levels with various amounts of spellpower
The only spells you can't get 100% accuracy on are the few that are completely scripted
Is this for weapon enchant? PVP does add a second layer of complexity since there are unique PVP auras
yes, but just for general knowledge
you just want to be a knower
not use it for anything or do anything with it, just figure out what the numbers are and what they mean?
Spells are mostly coefficient x any auras for that spell x secondaries x talents
that's the original reason I got curious, was that particular enchant comparison. But I've always been curious how it worked. I'm a big ARPG player. You can work out your stats down to the single digit in games like PoE/D4 etc.
You can here too
are coefficients the same at say level 10 and level 90?
It is a bit pointless doing anything at non-max level because you get all kinds of weird scaling effects in all proper content
Coefficients should be the same, but your tests will be a mess. Everything at 90 is consistent
fair enough, I was using lower levels just as another set of data
For HoTs you are also better off looking at a single tick and then extending that math to the entire spell
Since coefficients are for a single tick anyway
If you want me to host and promote it for you I will
I will send it to u to make sure its not embarassing....
If you want to put on your own channel then no worries too
no its fine
The PVE throughput you can math out well enough
PVP complicates this because there are more scenarios and gains in scenarios where you're worse off are also important
idm either
I'd love some druid content on the channel honestly
I can give you pvp content on my ascension up the shuffle ladder
idk what to say, to me a lot of things are just pure muscle memory or instinct
I was hoping it was all mostly relative assuming I"m not hitting any vers DR
like knowing when to rejuv, when to regrowth
Once you start the recording I swear your brain just fills with stuff
I think your best bet for gearing as resto druid in pvp is to ditch a lot of vers really

Because you kind of want to explain some druid / pres fundamentals as you go too
And parts of your UI that are important like abundance tracker etc
I cant believe I got baited by a heroic litany with leech early in the season when I could have taken Vaelgors
That doesn't sound like a big upgrade
and now I can't get the windrunner trinkets to save my life
L after L
“Yeah so this is where I stampeding roared because sense started to yell at me”
well he doesnt yell he just says x person roar
and then they roar...
thats how raiding works...
You're probably right. My thinking was more along the lines of "If I can get X by giving up Y, it's worth it for Z playstyle" kind of thing
Is there a way to indicate empowered rejuv on DandersFrames when using a square instead of an icon (like a border when empowered). Something like this:
idk how to do that with addons honestly
only time ive been able to display empowered rejuv is when i replaced all of my icon textures with Pureformance's custom buff icons
I'm guessing empowered may have a different spell id. If this is the case just adding it to a list of whitelisted spells to track and giving it a border color customization option could do the trick
It's not a different spell id
-_- cheers Blizz
Maybe I start running keys and upload
But I swear that going through the 15-17’s you have to meet some absolutely demonic people rn
no
if i only have 1 left
will it give you 4 set?
and it doesnt give me 4set
yeah i cleared the raid on lfr normal and heroic and didnt get a single tier piece :)
i love my life
shouldn't use any cata charges until it gives you 4 set
Your priority is getting 4 set no matter what and then just rolling in the catalyst charges
with the 2k achieve we have access to 3 charges right now, so you only need 1 piece from somewhere else
which boss drops the chest token?
chim chim
Use icons instead of squares, and change the icons in the files like how we were early in midnight
is heart of the wild most of the time used offensivly in cat or def on bear form?
Cat
THX
Can someone tell me why the crucible trinket keeps dimming so well, I have all three nodes and it gives me maybe 4% crit. Is there some interaction I’m missing.
If you hover over the ? on the trinket list it gives you that information
It gives double the stats of any other trinket
Where can I find Mythic raid timers? to plan ahead heal CDs? (and for free..)
The solution for simplifying World of Warcraft raid prep and cooldown management so you can get back to playing the game.
Will check, thanks, I heard viserio become prive and paid only
It's definitely not paid only
They even added their own version of lorrgs to the site with options to export into the cd planner or into your game
viserio cd planner is totally free
there's some paid features
but those are mostly aimed at guild management/raid leaders
you can open up a boss timeline and start throwing your own abilities in there and export them into NSRT
did u guys had some problems in Windrunner being unable to heal the tank coz blizzard things?
You need to be more specific than that
DEMONS
no on eknows what the fuck is going on since there isnt an weakaura that kinda teaches u what stuff does if u play enaugh
istg dps just vibe play
okey ty ❤️
Are there any prominent streamers or anywhere i might be able to find big wigs profile settings for dungeons and raids?
Is there any hardcap to haste or worth taking more mastery at a certain point?
No caps. Run QE sim to see what stats it recommends
Where? On upgrade finder or what ._.?
@main timber does flask recommendation change based on your current stats?
I'm sry if the wrong place but did anybody get their UI completely messed up today just by loging in? i use QUI and Nowah's addons
like everything is "working" but all the bars and placements just went brrr
@niko @gamers whats up with haste vs mastery
This is explained in every guide already. You mostly just play high haste on this spec and get mastery next
No it's a setting
Ah ok
I might convert it to sit below the gear slots
So that you can pick to run both for -1 item
do you guys know any addon to add sounds when an ability refreshes its cd
blizzard CDM can do that
you don't need an addon unless you don't like how blizzard has implemented it or you don't use the CDM at all
Spells tab -> right-click ability -> New Alert
just found that bootsy TYVM
Sending a monk cdm is too funny

ew
Hey tree lovers, is it the new meta to drop everbloom in raid or just specific to last boss progress ?
there are 2 viable builds that are both very strong in raid, 1 uses apex and 1 does not use apex
it's not related to a specific boss
Lifebloom in m+, When do you chose to cast it on tank and When do you chose to not? Feels like we can get a lot higher overall HPS by focusing on tank but it feels a lil troll if u got a dk tank for instance
in general keeping it on the tank is safe, but you want to move it around based on who needs healing. you're exactly right, leaving it on your DK tank does feel a little troll.
there are a ton of mechanics that target 2-3 people, so in those instances you would Lifebloom one person, and either dispel the other, Ironbark them, let them use a personal CD, or just heal them.
moving LB to a squishy DPS and then consuming SotF will cause your Apex to proc and turn them invincible
Void Infusion cast by Shadow Guards in Seat of the Triumvirate is a good example where you'd want Lifebloom on the target
Mass Infusion cast by the 3rd boss is the same ability but targets your 3 DPS, also a good example
When playing in nexus point xenas, the lightscar flare boss should I stand in the flare for the healing increase or outside to not get affected by dmg taken but lose 30 % healing, or hold convoke for dmg then try to outheal the dmg? How do you guys play that
spread rejuv beforehand, hope everybody presses a personal CD, and just heal your ass off
if anyone if your party gets close to death they should be stepping out
so generally the safe(st) way to go about it is to stay outside the beam but let the dps and the tank stay in
no, you follow the same rule
stand inside the beam for the DPS and healing increase, and if you drop low you can step out
Is the trinket from AA good it still sims lower than my champ Glorious Crusader's Keepsake (delve trinket) :S
it got nerfed very early in the season
I know
the sim is correct
Sim it
answering your own question
Can we somehow use HOTW in Bear form instatly (using fluid form talent) when in caster form? Or do i always need 2 GCDs
HotW is off the GCD, so you can press it as soon as you enter form
No, you have to shift, whether it’s by pressing bear form or a fluid ability to shift into bear form before you can press hotw
Yeah, that is true ^ it’s technically 1 GCD
Ah ok maybe as makro then
there are very few reasons to use it in bear form, it seems wasteful
it does really good DPS in cat form, and really good 5-man healing in caster form
Yeah, typically bear on its own is enough of a defensive
But you can’t access the caster version as a resto druid
oh yeah i forgot i play feral too much
There some abilites in 17+ which i would love to use it haha
Is that an Arcui icon Nick is using to track his rejuvs/abundance ?
i would sooner drop a talent to take UV than i would waste a 2min button that carries your DPS in keys
i was hesitant to criticize but since youre doing 17s you're not a slouch
if you press HotW bear you are griefing
Griefing seems a strong word, FF is great but I can imagine wanting bear defensive for a rot event
for rot?
Healer DPS is a joke even the 20-30k ST "burst" dps are not worth it if the chance is another dps dies
Would you guys mind reviewing a log ? it's my first one and i'd like a baseline on what i need to work on goin forward : https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/ka6PgDG7m4vcwZRn?fight=last
It’s 20 seconds of health
you cant heal your group in bear form, that's the opposite of how you handle a rot mechanic
yeah, in bear
It persists
ok that's interesting
but you still don't need it
you heal yourself for more than you heal anyone else in your party
you're the last person who needs more HP to live through a rot event
No thats not true, you get the % buff also in caster form
also
Yeah im not saying its “mandatory” but i dont think it’s a total grief to miss a cat FF if you wanna feel safer
survey says no
just healed m10 with 211 item lvl but lacking of stamina is hurting me a lot lol
healing power is insane in druid
I judge trinket usefulness by my ability to remember their existence
Since I don't remember this one, it's shit
yeah but mine was 140 ilvl so xD
3 minute on use I think
yes for sure its better than whatever you had im sure
but overall its awful
i will use it for some hot power
it gives 20% crit for hots
without wasting charges
shit overall y
at least i got bracers haster/mastery hero tier with socket 😄
Going into anything below like 230 is trolling you can be 235-240 within like 2-3 hours of hitting max level
For very minimal effort
World quests grab the reknown stuff preys
Yeah WQ / couple of delve and prey and you have a decent ilvl
Obviously with the caveat of if it's your first character leveled
i have done some WQ and timewalking 5x and ragnaros

Yeah we need spatial on that intermission aint no way
Hey I am searching for a very Clean UI Setup for my resto Druid. Can someone refer me to a good one?
Do you guys recommend the TargertedSpells addon?
Also, i think i heard there is a CC tracking addon that was developed but i havent beent able to find what it's called
probably mini CC?
Anyone having troubles seeing certain dungeon mob dots on party/raid frames? Im using Dander and have no problem seeing the boss debuffs, but stuff like axe bleed/Runic Blade doesnt show on my frames
oh i think i found the one i was thinking of, Loxx M+ Interrupt TRacker
chest craft, arcano weave lining or sunfire silk lining 
Any pov of crown yet?
Stupid question: how do I track DK runic power in danders frames? Is there an option for that? Used to have a weakaura for that before midnight
your DK's runic power?
its just their power bar. whatever function in Danders displays mana bars should also be able to show RP.
hi all was hoping someone might be able to give a little insight. i'm having trouble with healing output in raids and I cant seem to figure out where Im going wrong
just finished my lfr runs for the week and I was hovering around 19-20k hps, which compared to the other healers in the group was very low, im ilvl252 and with Keep of the Grove hero talents
I feel like I was doing the rotation and ramp up properly, but idk something feels off
there isn't enough healing in LFR to be able to get feedback on your performance
ok so it's the resource bar. Thank you
take a look through that, run some normal or heroic raids, and if you still feel the same way then you can post some logs in here and get more specific feedback
LFR is a bad place to test your healing
am i still accepted into the rdruid community with this dmg overall
this is super helpful thank you, gonna use it to test some rotation stuff out
why do you take sunfire
idk i copied from a chinese guy

i unironically think Thrash does more dps than sunfire despite being a 6s CD and requiring 2 GCDs to press
you should untalent it immediately
i dont even have time that much to do dmg
so sunfire
just is kinda ez clutch
just press button does a lil dmg
and im good to go
that breakdown just means you pressed your other dmg buttons so infrequently
compared to that 1 bad button
true but the key was hard af :c
fair
so my global cds were going into healing
the same guy you ripped that build from, you should check his cast breakdown and timeline
see what kind of player they really are
bc i know exactly who you ripped it from
haha some guy that did a random 19
kind of wild using that guy as an example for anything
he completed the key and thats the only good thing you can say about how he played it
im probably worst so who am i to complain
but i did see quite a few people going sunfire
or maybe its just the same guy
over and over again
on logs atleast
the chinese players do the same thing you did
thats why when you see one person running a bad build, it looks like they all are
it is more comfortable for me atleast tho
cause only melee dps kinda hard
when keys are hard :c
it feels like im contributing a bit
yeah whatever's comfortable is what matters, i just thought you should know ppl will criticize you a bit for good reason
melee dps is way more flexible than ranged and you contribute far more
ye i def go melee if i can
that guy also had like 20 canceled starfire casts but its high on his breakdown because his dps overall wasnt very good, he just padded on trash.
my friends didnt complain yet
yeah for me doing dmg on trash is hard
on bosses i know the dmg pattern
so its easier to be melee
but on trash theres so much random stuff
all the crafters are gone 
and the key level im on its so hard to waste a global
atleast it feels like it
but when i watch like larias or other resto druid
they pump
but then again im a priest main
I guess its a learning curve.. once i get more comfortable with healing i will be more comfortable doing dmg
i notice most ppl only do their crafting on reset or monday
guys for tbc anniversary is the set bonus on the whitemend gear better than having whitemend hood + earthsoul leggings?
set bonus is increase healing by up to +10% of your total int, however the earthsoul leggings are +19% better as per pawn than the WM pants
what key level is that
Hiho, anyone have the issue, that some hots/casts are not received by the tank?
My Resto drui mate has the issue that he needs to cast lifebloom on me 3 times sometimes. Or he casts wild growth on me and everyone in group receives the hot but not me.
Wild growth has only 30 yards range around the target you cast on. So if he casts it on a range player it could be just that you are out of range
but lifebloom just sounds like a macro/ui problem never heard of anyone that they got problems with that
he targeted me for the cast and I didn't receive it
It happens only in M+ and it was in two different instances now, makes it difficult to heal
Does someonehave timer bars for m+ trash? Or am I supposed to smell aoe timings now 😒
It also doesnt necessarily goes on the target. It trys to hit 5 injured targets within 30 yards. So depending on where you did test it there where potentially more then that 5 targets and or it did go on pets if you were full health.
But without some vod/log its kinda hard to point at the exact problem.
any idea for when we will get the rework on our apex talents?
Its mostly being aware of what enemies/pulls do big aoe so you can prepare
And things you can do to lessen incoming damage, like shifting off the purple aoes in xenas and seat, or using typhoon/incap roar
we have no logs, hmm, trying to figure out if it's packetloss or some other issue.
almost always when someone says something like this its either some macro problem or auto self cast keybind
auto self cast is by default on alt i think. Maybe he has it activ and his keybind is something with that
he uses clique, switched for one dungeon to danders and all the same
why are people pressing nature's swiftnes befor convoke ?
because it buffs the regrowths cast by convoke.
just timed an 18
but it was pit :c
was a close one tho
maybe bc of my dmg lmao
the missing one :c
im having trouble healing left side boss of npx on a 17
after the orb explodes, still dying during tranq with ramp
nexuspoint
any tips for healing the first few pulls in Seat at ~+15? i feel im struggling with the subjagators
It buffs all the regrowths cast during convoke and it doesn’t actually consume the NS, so it’s still available after
u can shift out of the circle, monks and pallys can help too
ahh ok i didnt realizew that, so shape shifting after seeing the circle around my character cancels it for me?
yep
good to know ty
then i just need to be aware of classes that cant do that and focus on them i guess
is convoke good in raid healing? or tree
this tech seems crazy btw https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y4YP3VJOfZ0
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What mechanic is that?
Afaik there's no mechanic thag forces you to freeze in place
left side mobs in npx puts a purple circle around players and does pulsing dmg, increases if u move, druids can shift out of it
I didnt realize it did more of you moved
Does it only do damage around you if you move then?
it pulses even if u don't move
Or is the range just increased if you move
and people just die when they move with it
Typically I just stood still so I don't grief other people, didn't realize that
im just farming vault now but is it worth continuing to farm bifurcation band in MT if i have this one
Pug group 😄 😄 😄
are u Aeious? Scholarbot here 😄 we cleared together!!
hehehehe yes!
any tips how can I improve this effectiveness? my Lifebloom was 94% uptime, was on myself or one of the tanks (usually off tank)
either better placement if you're playing with lifebloom on yourself or select a better lifebloom target
congratz 😮
I really like the colours you choose for the flowers. super cute
also I like the cactus. beefy boi
yo do we change any talents other than conoke and tol when we switch between them?
also wtf my reforest is bugged??
That's the dragon fruit
I actually found out that the Ione we got isn't self pollinating so I had to buy a second one and get it shipped from CA XD
Oh damn thats unfortunate... but at least you get more dragon fruit plants
self pollinating makes so many veggies so much easier
That's what I get for going oooo shiny this is mine now
Without looking into it first
Is there a way to have clickthrough raid frames in grid2
while in combat
ooc is fine as well but better in
If you do that, not sure it's possible, but i think you won't be able to cast on ppl anymore either
Second pull :p
Is this still what we're running in keys? I'm starting to feel a little ineffective
question
how do I tell how much healing my rejuv did
sorry not rejuv
the hot part of regrowth
i'm using this
give it a try
ineffective how
I just never have any time to do damage so it feels like half a waste to be Wildstalker. Didn't know if we'd swapped to Grove, i know a lot of people are saying healer damage is so low it isn't woirth the gcds
You are wildstalker because it heals for the most, not because of healer damage
We didn't swap to Grove
how much damage are you doing in keys ?
what key level are you talking about
Every resto Druid video or reading material should have that in the intro
Aiming for resil 12s right now and pushing to 3k
lol
Your build looks fine but moving 2 talents around will do nothing. At a certain point you are just working on your play
then you are definitely healing more than you need to
It basically does, just nobody reads them
But the pugs, sir, they takes so many damage :c
yes they do
focus on learning each encounter better
how much damage do you have overall ? if you reach 10k it's already ok with pugs
I miss being able to see dps as a percentage of the group total
does wildstalker actually heal more though
Definitely more than that. I don't have a current log or meter to reference but I did 1700k overall against the tree boss in a 12 ag
Yes
yes
how? the symbiotic blooms are like 4% of my healing
it doesn't feel like it does more
They buff your other heals a lot
There is barely any power in Symbiotic healing. You go Wildstalker because they buff your healing on that target by 20% + a mastery stack
you should read your talents
Maybe it’s like a terms and conditions where you have to agree to them before accessing the rest of the content lol
need a walkthrough with subway surfers footage?
My honest answer is that there are so many talents and so many different guides to look through and it's hard to remember everything
I just enjoy being in tree in m+ and grove gives longer reforestation
yes yes... everyone else is at fault
grove also gives like 7k dps passively
Who said that? lmao
100% you are free to play what you want. But if someone is here struggling with healing then linking them a much lower HPS tree is trolling
Yeah you are fine. It's just funny that Wildstalker has been completely unable to throw off its "you must catweave" public opinion despite that never being the best part of the tree
Blizzard shouldn't have given it a damn cat for a logo then 
the tree is shared with feral...
Galaxy why're you so condescending lol we're just talking
I’ve never catweaved because I hate being in melee- have no issue pugging to 3k+ every season and only use wild stalker because better hps
Idk pre hot, make sure you don’t drop life bloom, swiftmend into regrowth when the damage goes out. It Is like infinite healing
first day on the internet?
just be thankful @gentle nova hasnt had input on this yet
I was just lurking
hahaha
But i cbad
I just read through the hero talent tree and realised, I can get 1.5sec cd reduction on swiftmend by casting ironbark. Absolutely huge.

reading talents
Tree fight 100p
would it be the play to swap liveliness for photo on paladins
And if you dont get spatial you will never compete
im seeing liveliness is like 2% max and photo amounts to 3
plus verdancy i guess
after playing around with 2x TV / natures bounty / harmonious bloom for a while i think ive decided i like just have 2x TV in M+
@gentle nova thoughts
Phosy does more
I've decided for high keys I'm going to run DoC
It enables verdancy
/s
ok im gonna try hb photo on paladins then
most high end healers playing VI instead of prosperity in keys? doesnt that give less soul of the forest procs?
This time I kinda agree
there's just no burst in P1
it's all just permanent rot
Intermission is too good for tree
You could proc 2 trees with convoke and prosp there
Do you get 15 blooms when triggering the apex talent with 3 lifebloom stacks or just 5 blooms doing triple healing or I guess the worst version 5 blooms regardless of stacks?
Sad
but with harmonious bloom i think the extra mastery stacks effect the healing bloom will do to the LB target
I would expect them to. But you probably only i get 3 extra mastery stacks and not 9 from harmonious blooming
prosp 
What spec are we opening vault in this season?
Anyone else's Refo jacked in Dreamrift?
thank god btw
guardian
if your trinkets are good
You can't pre-pull refo anymore?
Correct
Damn. Now I don't have an excuse to mald at my raid for not obeying the pull timer
And if you need trinkets, is it resto or balance?
resto
what raid bosses did you kill
why does sometimes soul of the forest not do its effect when casting rejuv's or regrowths ?
range?
I've noticed it more on m+
doubt it's the range they're fairly close
like sometimes it doesnt throw the improve rejuvs
also when you spell-queue swiftmend while casting regrowth, SotF is consumed with the regrowth immediatly
it's a cool trick to patch up everyone fast
or a feature
similar to the nature's swiftness + convoke interaction
its a pretty standard spellqueuing interaction
yeah I guess, though it shouldn't work like that even if its spell queuing
cuz it comes after regrowth
so weird
but it's standard in blizzard terms it seems
its rarely a problem in raids but in m+ it can be a tiny bit annoying lol
we can also abuse it to cast a RG -> Rejuv and get the sotf bonus healing on both
First 2 of voidspire and Chimaerus
just have a small gap
like swiftmend > wg > regrowth or swiftmend > delay literally 0.1 seconds and regrowth
if damage is already going out you can queue them and still be fine
if u delay the swiftmend itself
its not a big deal
fair enough
open in guardian
And I assume once I kill Paladins and Alleria switch to opening in Resto?
no
do we just not care about lining it up with convoke?
then it's more feelycraft
you are adding about 10 useless items to your m+ vault if you go caster instead of agi spec
you guys think its worth changing to regenerative heartwood for heroic cosmos?
i have 4 set heroic. and my chest is one of them. i crafted a weapon maxed what would i want for my 2nd crafted item i see people saying chest. but id ont have another item for a 4 set to replace the chest.
chest, get another item
you should have unlimited catalyst charges now
tier chest is terrible
ok ty
if you aren't doing any other content this week... you can also just wait to see vault
ok
Homie, I finally checked what talents people are running and button presses on L'ura logs, people dont even run the apex talents or bother casting lifebloom, unless to tank heal xD
well i guess not to tank heal but ot apply efflo(?)
but still only casted like once per minute
they have lifebloom up nearly 100% of the time
quit spreading misinformation
with VI, convoke, tranq, you dont need to cast it any more than that to keep nearly 100% uptime on it
Gotcha gotcha
can someone confirm this
yes thats been known for a long time
its just the bonus healing tho not the spread
correct, you get 3 regrowths, 1 empowered rejuv
I see i see just swiftmend the lifebloom target
yes
ezpz
wtf
this isnt new info
it is to me
spell queue a rejuv with a sotf rg cast
i knew about this but i recall ppl telling me it doesn't give you both
I had tried it not too long ago but I didn't notice multiple rejuvs
didn't occur to me that it could be 1 empowered
hard to notice now with all our icons looking the same
this is actually big to not be in the faq, no
not really
not really
you don't regrowth sotf often
When do u regrowth sotf
i cant see my reforestation stacks before combat, bug?
cant stack out of combat anymore
i think regrowth sotf is only a thing in keys really
damm rlly 🙁
i think in raids it would be ethical if ppl are 5% hp too
ohh thnx!
guys real fast question n cosmos healing absorb: if you dispel it. does it save how much of thr absord you've healed?
i sotf regrowth during tol lots, but theyre instant and you cant spell queue
yes
yup
it transfers to another person with the same amount remaining
works outside raid envoirement tho
I regrowth sotf in the first few 10s of seconds with lust
when everyone has rejuv
that is exactly what the patch notes i just linked you says yep
im blind 😄 🤦♂️
Thank you for the clarification !!! Get to bust out the tech
its better tho, it was abit frustrating.
kinda fucks up some timings but its w/e
yea it does. But when you wiping everytime and have to restack i never liked that type of play 😄
You forget or use downtime to run to the toilet youre next pull timers are fked
We’re is this I don’t see post
That’s lame
@gentle nova I'm thinking about tree on Crown too
If Nick can do 220k HPS perma on Lura, surely that's something that owns on Crown too
That hps is inflated i just noticed
Why
Unlucky
Intermission is all absorbed healign and details counts it double
Not sure why its all absorbed but if you look closely it says absorbed all the time
Oh yeah for sure
And if you pay attention thats where he goes up like 40k hps
0
Because 50% in p3 is insane lmao
: D
Yea and also Nick mana almost to oom when p3 begin
Right but for Crown that wouldn't be the case
I can get mana back in intermissions etc
when making a crafed chest should i do the one with emblisment in it already row walkers or the one with out
silvermoon agent's coat
is the chest you want
with arcanoweave lining on it
and haste mastery
ty
i should hold tranquility for this mechanic on boss 3 of seat right
it was on cd and that was painful
you can if you need it, sure
need to clean my healing rotation for thoses big damage events
The ability happens more often than you have tranq so you’ll need some plan other than just tranq, just spread some hots and spam regrowth while it’s pulsing
oh yea it loops so
That fight is on a 1 minute rotation so your convoke is up for any mechanic of your choosing
Tentacles or that circle move
its weird because healing difficulty feels so group dependant even more than key level dependant
Partly is
Convoke should get you through those intermissions though if you have everyone hotted up
I've only done it on 15 so far, but no issues
if its not a one shot, you should often be able to fix a teams mistake
i mean that's the goal regardless
if someone gets one shot, thats on them
hp go down, you make it go up no matter what
i just think its not a good thing to think about really
i just had radically different experiences in the same dungeon at the same key back to back and i was a bit flabbergasted because i did kind of the same things but i think i got carried by the tank's performance / gear in the first run i guess
Tank can make or break a lot of dungeons this season
like i said i know im still working on healing rotation
do i understand incapacitating roar properly, it doesnt interrupt, it only stuns for 1-2 seconds, but it's still worth throwing out just for the slowdown in damage output on the party in pulls
it interrpts, but it doesnt spell lock
so it still cancels the cast, they're just gonna cast it again soon after
that's still valuable yea especially aoe
can anyone reccomend a raiding healing build. i got my butt beat by a priest hitting 100k heals in a raid
and i should be throwing it out every pack regardless
after the tank grouped the mobs ofc
this wow head build seems whack. i dont see other druids using tree life
Read the guide you took the build from. It discusses convoke vs tree
not necessarily
stopping casts can be good
i miss convoke so much
but also you sync melee attacks when you stop
id save it to stop something important
You should try to avoid stopping if not needed, it can fuck up a kick and kicks are valuable
You can 100% just play Convoke if you prefer
thank god
fuck this tree life
spamming insta regrowths between wild growth wasnt cuting it
i felt slow
You just press it on cd
your casts dont change
Its braindead
between ToL and Convoke
Very likely you just aren't playing tree right either by that description
yeah you use it for rejuv typically, right?
i pop wild growth in tree whenever its ready
i feel guilty about not using it much at all rn i guess
so i should let other classes kick first
and keep it as a last resort kick?
or interrupt i guess
If you stop a cast and someone kicked it before it will miss the kick
there are some things it can be used on that aren't kickable... like the leech in nexus
And it will just recast anyway and now the kick will be on cd
in pugs i just throw typhoon/vortex on cd on big pulls assuming it'll delay some dam
the preist was outperforming so hard... he was taking heals away from me and a shaman . lol
because pugs gonna miss some kicks anyway
i also wouldnt do that
you can kill your tank with that if you aim poorly.
But yeah some casts can be stopped but not kicked like the dragonhawk fire dot in windrunners
can post logs and we can roast you if you want
i'm timing my windrunners but it's always fucked to heal idk
hasn't happened yet, but prob tru
just need more practice prolly . .
windrunner is why i was thinking about kicks i was like is there any utility i'm not using that could make this smoother
outside of generally working on my healing rotation and cd usage throughout
no logs rage joined a +10 mythic to feel bette rabout myself
i installed / played the game first time last week and im timing +8s tonight, so im doing ok, it's just a lot to learn really fast and i despise letting anyone die
its ok
you will graduate to scoffing at your teammates deaths and looking down on them
all healers do
theres a lot of little wow logic things people take for granted i have to point out and ask one by one atm
see : interrupts vs kicks vs stuns
interrupts are kicks
stops are anything that stops a cast but doesnt spell lock


