Guide on how sleep styles work & how to fake Dozing / Snoozing / Slumbering

[arctic ice]

Hopefully my slumbering tracks right tonight. Its been too weak ig to register and its been cutting out after 6 hours the past two nights

[tight iron]

That sounds like the default max of how long you can have slumbering. After 6 hrs of slumbering, the session ends itself

[arctic ice]

no i mean its not registering the timer that i have at 4 hours, so i made the timer go off longer so it processes it. cause ive fone it fine before

[tight iron]

Hope it goes well for you. I still can't even get consistent dozing after all my previous testing. Sleep manipulation with the PG++ and phone method is pretty frustrating

[arctic ice]

thats fair lol

thats why i dont really bother with one

[lime oar]

just do like 1 hour of 'snoozing' in-between the night so you'll be guaranteed to get some non-slumbering

[arctic ice]

How would i do that if im sleeping lol

[lime oar]

same way you fake snoozing and dozing via the vibrations app

just gotta do a loong time without vibrations, then a short period with many vibrations, and then again no vibrations (if you want 90% slumbering in 1 session)

[arctic ice]

I but if im asleep i cant switch over the alarms in the middle of the night?

[lime oar]

which is why you wanna use the interval timer app

[arctic ice]

I have the tea time app

The one snackson advised me to use

[lime oar]

does that one let you do 4 hours of no movement, then 1 h of heavy movement, then again no movement?

[arctic ice]

No? Its a timer lol

[lime oar]

well interval timer does let you do it "lol"

[arctic ice]

Im not sure what the reason is for the lol in quotes at the end of your message

[arctic ice]

Is there a particular reason you have so much attitude towards me? I dont know what i have done to deserve the attitude it feels youre giving me tbh

As far as I know i havent said anything rude to you

[lime oar]

no that's just my way of humour dw

[arctic ice]

Okay, im just making sure cause it did kinda feel a bit rude without knowing XD

[neon breach]

Use the alarm, and it work for 2 days lol

[thorn sun]

i got slumbering instead of snoozing why

how even

[neon breach]

Let me see the setting alarm.

[thorn sun]

15 minutes

too long?

i used that in the past

[neon breach]

I use this, 15 minutes also

[thorn sun]

maybe i should turn the frequency up

tonight i'm trying to doze though so no idea

[tardy vale]

Was the Phone on the same surface than usually ?

[arctic ice]

I need to up the frequency of mine, it didnt go off enough to get any sort of snoozing

Well, at least me messing up my sleep style last night gave me 30 cleffa candies to almost evolve my mon again lol

[lime oar]

5min is also snoozing

and if a few vibrations arent getting picked up, at least you won't hit slumbering very son

even 2min should be snoozing instead of dozing

but test it

[sharp crescent]

@lime oar @rigid lake can u help me?
im on ios, i need the 3sets for slumbering,snoozing,dozing

[rigid lake]

Did you read the guide?

It’s straight forward

[sharp crescent]

Dozing: frequent movement detected(multiple times per minute)

Snoozing: movement every 10-20mins

Slumbering: only oocasional movement etc etc

BUT it's the first time i'm using the interval timer app, i've no clue what that all means about 'sets, work, rest' 😅
i really want to know what i need to put in there?
how much minutes etc etc if u don't mind help me trough it please

[rigid lake]

It’s in the guide. Please read thoroughly

For example:

“More frequently than once a minute”

[sharp crescent]

so this would give me dozing right?
or do i need to put more than 500sets in there?

i'm trying to understand how the app works 😅

if it vibrates every 40secs

or should i set it to every 20secs?
But i'm not sure if 500sets is enough for the whole night?

[rigid lake]

Do a test run

My understanding you’re doing a vibration every 80 seconds

Since its 40 seconds work + 40 seconds rest

[sharp crescent]

i tried and it vibrates 3x every 40seconds

[rigid lake]

Ok

Be careful because if you do too much

You’ll get forced balanced for too much movement

[sharp crescent]

oh didn't know that! Would 40secs good or do u think maybe 30secs?

[floral ferry]

yeah, i personally give like 30 minutes of slumbering before i start any artificial vibrations

[sharp crescent]

are u also using interval timer app on ios?

oh i see u're on android nvm

[floral ferry]

yeah android. but i am using go + now

[sharp crescent]

well for snoozing, i'll let it vibrate every 15mins, but not sure for Dozing? Maybe every 40secs?

[floral ferry]

for snoozing i do 10 minutes, vibrating for 30 seconds. for dozing i do 5 minutes, vibrating for 1 minute

but that's probably different if youre using just your phone

[rigid lake]

The time between vibrations differ for person to person due to variables

1. what kind of surface you’re putting the phone on

2. if your phone has a case

3. are you using phone or pogo++

Which is why you need to do trial and error

[floral ferry]

yep

[rigid lake]

Figure out what works for you

The guide is a guide. A good starting point

[sharp crescent]

ty! i'll give it a try and see 👌🏼👍🏼

[sharp crescent]

this is exactly what i was searching for, thank u!

[neon breach]

Give it a try, i only use it to hunt Ralts lol

And it work for Snoozing lol

[arctic ice]

Im not entirely sure how i got snoozing with this, when i got mainly slumbering. I havent skewed my rates at all, its been three weeks since ive done slumbering so it shouldve been fine

But oh well. Weird

[lime oar]

the averages happens over the past 30 sessions (#1235680850012536872 message)

idk how high slumbering percentages you've got but it might be too much already if you did too high slumbering percentages

[tardy vale]

Could also mean you Get none or close to none snoozing usually, that could also be one of the reason you Get snoozing (in addition to what Thijs said)

[arctic ice]

I got more snoozing recently than slumbering

[lime oar]

weird but nevertheless it is a signal that you should try to go some weeks with (much) lower slumbering percentages in order to unskew your averages

[arctic ice]

🤷

It did it fine with the dozing i did last week so idk

When im done doing this ill go ss some of my dozing

[arctic ice]

Some from the first week and some from last week. Ive done it just fine with dozing so idk why it would so anything with slumbering

[lime oar]

ah I see, then the issue isn't a high slumbering, but a very low snoozing

[arctic ice]

I did snoozing in between the slumbering week and last week

[lime oar]

you'll wanna get some high snoozing sessions then first (for example think where you wanna find snoozing mons next week) and then the week after you can easily get slumbering cuz both dozing & snoozing averages will be high

[arctic ice]

But i kinda messed it up sometimes, so maybe it didnt like me. Ufh

[lime oar]

hmm strange

this is why i always recommend to limit the percentages to a not too high number

70% dozing is bound to screw up averages cuz the other percentages will be super low

but if you do a different style each week then that's still a bit confusing

make sure to check the "...% more than usual" int he morning though

[arctic ice]

Those were what my snoozing ended up looking like

[lime oar]

that gives an indication of what percentage you should aim for

[arctic ice]

Cause i hadnt done snoozing yet, i was adjusting the timers so i need to fix it i think

[lime oar]

welp then maybe yesterday's session was an odd-one-out after all

[arctic ice]

Next week is snoozing anyways, so it should be better since i have a stable one

I think, i think ive got the timer figured out

[sharp crescent]

i didn't use interval timer or anything but i tried just using my phone alot so i could get Dozing, but did i screw up my averages?
is 10% snoozing bad?

i got snoozing instead of Dozing 😅

if i think about it, if i had between 60-80% snoozing that would screw it up ig?
so 10% isn't bad at all right?

[lime oar]

your snoozing average% is 19% which is kinda low yea, and your dozing average% must be high as well, gotta fix your averages

[sharp crescent]

just asking, where do u see snoozing average 19%?

and how can i fix my averages 😅

[lime oar]

you got 29% which is 10% more than usual

[lime oar]

get more of the 2 styles you dont want

i always say to be careful with skewing your averages too much when i explain this stuff 🙃

[sharp crescent]

so i need to get more snoozing?

and slumbering

[lime oar]

yea especially snoozing apparently cuz it's low af

so go to an island next week where you wouldnt mind getting some snoozing

would be my strategy

[sharp crescent]

ogpp for fuecoco

@lime oar sorry for the ping! lol here are my sleepstyles last months, if u don't mind looking.
i did slumbering last time for almost 3weeks long 😅
but do u see anything abnormal here? maybe like to low dozing sleep?

[lime oar]

way too much slumbering, so both dozing & snoozing are too low. gotta increase your snoozing to be able to doze, it seems

[sharp crescent]

aight thanks! well stupid question incoming: for how long/weeks or days should i try to get only snoozing?

i am planning for ogpp fuecoco so i'm gonna try snoozing there but i don't want to go to much above my snoozing average than i need lol

[lime oar]

it averages over the past 30 sessions

so that means you can speed it up by napping if you really want

[sharp crescent]

oh i didn't know that, thanks!

[arctic ice]

Okay and now my phone isnt picking up on the same vibrations it was last time? Wtf

Ignore 2:30-4, i was actually awake. But after that?

Thats all bullshit

Its as if there was no alarm at all

[arctic ice]

This was the same damn timer on the same surface just the beginning of this week

[lime oar]

yep it happens. gotta keep testing to make it consistent, i also dont know why it does that sometimes

[arctic ice]

It has been consistent tho

[mighty summit]

my dozing set up hasnt been catching on

how many minutes/interval do you guys set for doze?

[lime oar]

1 minute or maybe 45 sec for example. gotta play around with it and test

[mighty summit]

a heckin 1 min?
Mine used to doze alright with 5 minutes

now it wont budge even with 3

I'll try for 1 ig

[rigid lake]

50 seconds

[lime oar]

It was on a nightstand for 7.5h in the night on silent mode

[tardy vale]

That nightstand may be haunted

[torpid ice]

Is there a good guide for how to do with PGP+ and IOS

I need to fake certain styles

[tardy vale]

check the pins

[lime oar]

all comes down to the same, my guide is for android but it translates quite well to pg++ and ios, the key is testing what works for you

[torpid ice]

I see you use interval timer, does it have a vibrate setting I don't see?

[lime oar]

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check one of these vids (i forgot which one is most up to date)

[arctic ice]

Okay now im getting mad because my phone isnt picking up the vibrations at all for some reason

This is bullshit

[sand sequoia]

If you fake some sleep, can you still consult your phone and look at other apps?

[sharp crescent]

yes

[sand sequoia]

Super thank you so much!

[scenic oar]

google calender method has let me down the past few days after my phones system update, im gonna give interval timer a try

this is a really informative thread

[rigid lake]

We appreciate you,
For taking the time to read through the thread

[scenic oar]

and I appreciate the good work

ralts hunt underway thanks to this guide 🙂

[lime oar]

Thanks I wish I could be bothered to make it up to date cuz parts are a bit redundant now with the interval timer app but you should manage with all the info in this thread

[rigid lake]

He was thanking me not you 😒🤣🤗😩

[scenic oar]

lmaoooo

to not hurt feelings I will extend my gratitude to both of you

[glad compass]

Has anyone figured out why interval timer won’t vibrate when you put ur pokemon to sleep? Seem to have a problem where if I put my pokemon to sleep it won’t vibrate on the interval timers

[waxen escarp]

what app can I do for the best snoozing results

[lime oar]

interval timer

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[eager escarp]

Is there any way to check if the interval timer vibration is strong enough for snoozing without burning an actual sleep session?

[lime oar]

find a right time to do a nap (which is not this event lol) and just test out stuff during like 1 or 2 hours during this nap

and focus on the time window in which you were testing this stuff

that's the only way

[rigid lake]

Are you a phone user or pogo++ user?

It helps to have it on a hard surface but as ^ mentioned it’s best to test it out with trial and error

[eager escarp]

seems like it was strong enough but it didn't start vibrating until 4 hours in lmao

[eager escarp]

oh but I should note it worked, so thank you! can finally hunt pawmi in earnest

[mint crystal]

I just tried a nap to force snoozing for the first time, and this is the graph i got🥲

I used interval timer, and heard the vibrations every time. My phone was on a table in my office

Any ideas as to why the vibration wont register?

And the vibration was set to every 15 min after initial slumber btw

[lime oar]

try one or more of these things and keep testing before doing it all night:

• more intense or frequent vibrations (every 2min is still snoozing, then if only 50% of the vibrations are picked up it still works)
• use a softer surface like a couch
• remove the phone case (and if you use a ++ remove the case you might use for the ++)
• etc

i've also not really figured out how to properly do it with my new phone with ++, even though i've had it for quite a few monthslol

I'm not testing too actively tho

but it's been a bit rough

[eager escarp]

when I first tried it my phone saw slumbering for 2 hours then it held at snoozing

consider if that could be messing up the test

[mint crystal]

Thanks, I’ll experiment with those suggestions

[hot echo]

hey, im trying to get dozing with my go plus+. can anyone bump me to the best method

[rigid musk]

Are you a back sleeper? Because I can consistently get dozing by leaving my plus+ sitting on my chest/stomach for a bit if I'm reading/on my phone before sleeping (It'd work for a whole sleep if I was a back sleeper)

(If someone already mentioned this tip for back sleepers, I apologize, but I was reading through again to get an idea of what time I would be waiting to make sure the start of sleep is full slumbering and didn't notice that mentioned)

[hot echo]

wait that’s lowkey smart lol

[pearl lily]

Hi can anyone tell me why my phone doesnt vibrate when im sleeping?

It vibrates when my pokemon sleep isnt sleeping but suddenly stops when i turn it on

[floral ferry]

might have something to do with ios

ive seen people complain about that with apple phones

idk if there's a workaround

[smoky surge]

maybe you have "dont disturb" inside the game too

[pearl lily]

The enable do not disturb hours? I have it off

[pearl lily]

Its lowk very inconsistent because its only worked like once fully and other times it works at the start but stops halfway through

[cerulean dragon]

Anyone know why the sleep tracking didnt stop after "too much movement"?

This was what I got previously

Does the hyper-dozing section need to be longer or something?

[lime oar]

overdozing was not long enough

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[cerulean dragon]

Ohh thanks

Thats not as easy as I thought then

@mental crag pinging you since you asked about this before too^