⚙・modding-general

[lament sleet]

imagine ONE joker that contains the effects of photochad that can also be copied. or a joker that contains baron and mime and dna together, that can be directly copied. sounds insane. another way to balance it though would be to make it incompatible for copy jokers though. that might help a bit with the bustedness

unless you want it to be busted then go right ahead lol

[golden wren]

How do I tempter with tags? I've looked around for it but I'm not finding how to do it

[toxic cloud]

Ctrl+R while hovering to remove a card (also apply to tags)

[golden wren]

thank you!

[neon orchid]

anybody know what the default config settings are for talisman? my game is crashing and i am pretty sure setting it back will fix it

[exotic belfry]

Thanks Nasa

[neon orchid]

oh im being silly i can just uninstall it and reinstall it

[fallow cypress]

I know how insane that sounds but it would be funny

[gilded comet]

quick question, i just found out that Visibility is apparently like, abandoned/archived, is the mod stable enough that this isn't an issue or should i remove it just to be safe?

[woven crag]

these are the default values

A mod's config.lua is only used to set defaults

[neon orchid]

oh lol

[woven crag]

And then the actual config is saved i think in a config folder outside of the mods folder

[neon orchid]

ok thanks

if i have an issue like this again that will be helpful

[ember flicker]

wait i realized

attributes are just better pools

[toxic cloud]

if you happen to encounter bugs/crashes within this mod or caused by unexpected behaviors with cross-mod, there's no fixing it on the mod's side, at which point you can remove it
otherwise there's no problem

[silver nest]

finally figured out why some mods wouldn't work

lmao

[lean dune]

lmao..

how did that happen

[karmic compass]

oh was there a new smods patch

whats attributes

[forest knoll]

tagging system for jokers (will eventually be expanded to all centers)

you can think of it as better pools

[sleek granite]

whats a joker

[fierce sapphire]

what's a woman?

[wanton rapids]

??

[forest knoll]

??

[fierce sapphire]

https://youtu.be/NywG9LOs04s?si=ZTMBrp3f6nl-ASTK

my apologies if i offended anyone, I meant no offense

[karmic compass]

a woman is a character class that gets advantage in Ms. Monopoly

however its unlock condition is really weird

50% of players has it already unlocked when they start, while the rest have to play celeste

[floral gyro]

ello, I am interested in training a model on balatro, has anyone made a mod to log games and/or a database of games played?

[fierce sapphire]

uh ohhhhhhhhhh, we have a RULEBREAKERRRRRRRRR

[winged prism]

Fuckinh. Rule. 9.

[cloud willow]

#📜・modding-rules

[fierce sapphire]

go to #📜・modding-rules and you'll see that rule 9 says no ai discussion

[winged prism]

Mods, alter their dna

[floral gyro]

oh, sorry I should check those

[cloud willow]

...

[floral gyro]

I will take a look at them and be back, give me a sec

[cloud willow]

[karmic compass]

to be fair it was something significantly more positive than the other times

but yeah rule 9

[cloud willow]

yeah
at least it wasn't I want to make ai balatro mod

[karmic compass]

we love statistical analysis

[wanton rapids]

look it says genai

if it's a traditional ml model i believe it is allowed

[karmic compass]

you know, the thing a number crunching machine is supposed to be used for and good at

mf really spent seven billions dollar to make computers forget how to do math

anyway

play my mod #1325147180280971294

[cloud willow]

mf why would you do that

[fierce sapphire]

is this a running gag?

[karmic compass]

no i am perfectly still in my chair

[winged prism]

Play my mod #⚙・modding-off-topic

[cloud willow]

play not my mod https://discord.com/channels/1116389027176787968/1326135270759993364

[karmic compass]

play my mod @moderator

[winged prism]

I'm modding modding-off-topic into balatro

I also lie a lot

[fierce sapphire]

play my mod about mail #mod-mail

[frigid furnace]

Play my mod https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dQw4w9WgXcQ

[fierce sapphire]

mary had a little lamb mod? awesome

[floral gyro]

ah appoligies, it looks like the 2nd half of this project is something that I should be trying to find help with elsewhere. For the first half, if I am just first trying to create a mod that records games, would I be able to ask questions about that here as it is just creating a database of games?

[karmic compass]

play my mod https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2637096916

oh like the ktane logfile analyser kinda deal?

i dont think there's any that i am aware of

[frigid furnace]

Games, as in runs? I think there was a mod that recorded runs and can give a playback of those, and while it's likely outdated it did exist

[karmic compass]

so yeah it'd be great to have that mod

[frigid furnace]

it was also apparently quite buggy

[karmic compass]

although one issue that rises up pretty quickly is that there's a lot, and i mean A LOT to record in a run

[frigid furnace]

But regardless if that mod was allowed to exist I think you can inquire about developing such

[winged prism]

Balatro mod that adds gensokyoradio.net into the game for no reason at all

I just remembered a minecraft mod that did that

Bideo fames

[fierce sapphire]

well the rule does say that if you so much as breathe using balatro for ai it will be a ban on sight. Idk if its such a good idea to allow this discussion considering what you want to use the mod for, but im not a mod, so what can i say

[frigid furnace]

smods.html, interface with gensokyoradio api, love2d sound shenanigans, boom

[floral gyro]

Absolutely fair, if people think that this is not the place to be asking about even the game recording part of my project, I am definitely willing to attempt to find resources elsewhere

[fierce sapphire]

well you have been very understanding and polite at the very least. If there are any other sorts of modding projects you want to do I'm sure you would be welcome here

[hard plank]

😭

[karmic compass]

profile pic checks out

[fierce sapphire]

oh, did i do something wrong?

[karmic compass]

not that im aware of

[fierce sapphire]

ok

[karmic compass]

silly joker idea

Leitmotif
Remembers the first 5-card hand played after obtaining this card
X1 Mult and gain X0.05 Mult each time you play that exact same hand with the exact same cards after

so like if it remembered a 10D 9S 8S 7C 6H straight, it will only procs if you play another 10D 9S 8S 7C 6H straight

even if one card was a different suit it wouldnt count

also has to be a 5-card hand otherwise it's just free high card mult

though it still can proc with a high card, you just also need the exact same 4 unscored cards as well

[winged prism]

Ace of Hearts

Ace of Hearts

[karmic compass]

like the band?

also again, if you play fewer than 5 cards it will not remember that hand

[winged prism]

No, I'm not cultured idfk what band is that

[karmic compass]

so you cannot make it remember a high card without playing 4 unscored card

[winged prism]

Oh yeah. Comes into one ear comes out of another

[karmic compass]

or like at best high card with 4 stones

which at that point if you're deckfixing that hard just go for flush fives

[winged prism]

Finally, splash

[karmic compass]

second again, you would also need those exact 4 cards for Leitmotif to proc

like if you did AH 2C 4S 9S JC high card, even with splash

you also need to play exactly a AH 2C 4S 9S JC high card for it to proc

and third again, if you're fixing so you can play the same five cards over and over... flush five?

[winged prism]

But

What did I want to say

[karmic compass]

i think you want to tell people to play your mod

[winged prism]

#1325147180280971294

[median fable]

b b bbut your not revo

[rain orbit]

What if I reveal myself to be revo in disguise

[formal orchid]

#1325147180280971294

[formal orchid]

I'd say bullshit

smh

[south dagger]

Hi

I have one question

Is it possible to install a mod in balatro and keep the achievements on?

Or turning back to vanilla without uninstalling anything and keeping the achievements

[toxic cloud]

the achievement block is smods the modloader thing

you can reenable it via config

Mods > Config

[south dagger]

I think I did that, but they are still blocked (sorry if i misspell something, my english is not perfect lmao)

[toxic cloud]

wdym still blocked

are you expecting the achievement without redoing it again after releasing the block

[south dagger]

For example, I had complete a challenge in vanilla but with the modloader and it didn't give me the thing

[toxic cloud]

well, do it again smh

[toxic cloud]

[gusty mortar]

guys, I think steammodded is causing my game to crash, any help

my game keeps crashing every few minutes after really bad stutters, unless it's in windowed

[south dagger]

Ok, thanks :)

[toxic cloud]

you can't just release the block and expect the game to rerun all achievement unlock checks

that's not how it works

[lean charm]

what's your guys favorite deck to play with?

[toxic cloud]

Saga Deck because +3 joker slots is huge

[lean charm]

mhm, haven't seem to unlock it yet

[toxic cloud]

uh, asking for vanilla decks instead?

[lean charm]

wdym

cuz im talking about cryptid

[toxic cloud]

you did not specify which mod the decks you expect belong to

smh

[fierce sapphire]

check their username

[woven crag]

i heart bountiful deck

[lean charm]

oh

lol

[fierce sapphire]

has anyone made a mod called "balatrino"?

[woven crag]

oh and infinite deck

i also like that

it lets you do a lot of shenanigans

[fierce sapphire]

because if not, I'm taking that name

[ember flicker]

lets goooo

lets goooo

[fierce sapphire]

whats the matter

why are you celebrating? You should be miserable /s

[ember flicker]

oh ok

fuck my chud life

[hard plank]

?????????

[fierce sapphire]

im not going to do that because nothing ever happens

who am I to challenge the status quo

[ember flicker]

hi koyori

[frigid furnace]

what if we shilled mods but not to encourage people to play then but instead do crossmod stuff

[ember flicker]

joker galore

@hard plank holy wiki description

[hard plank]

yeah

oinite did that

[ember flicker]

yeah

[granite forum]

from the ancient 中国人 (Chinese people)

writing 中国人 in mandarin just so they alone can read it

[granite forum]

Women are the pink characters in The Game of Life™ a classic board game of Family Fun.

[fair thistle]

Meow

[gilded comet]

oh wow i got a stack overflow crash that almost crashed my pc

[long hare]

its like a man, but woah

[granite forum]

THE AND WOMEN

Lets talk about the women and the Women.
Women are women and women are Women,
the women cannot be men cuz they are Women
the men cannot be women because they are Men
Men are Women, men to woman, and woman to men
men and wo, makes woman
you and me, we're women
women women women women I love women
don't forget WOMEN, they'll forget YOU
women and you and you with women
you with no women cuz you with MEN
There no u in women cuz no women like YOU
AND AND AND AND AND AND AND WOMEN

Completely unrelated but i just wrote this FIRE beat (not ai because fuck ai) ((I can be stupid without a robot doing it for me))

[hard plank]

???

wdym fire beats

[granite forum]

what

is this not fire

🥺

most used words

so i thought i would write some beats

mb

[frigid furnace]

i spent the past few days making tooltips look and work better, this used to be so much worse

[fair thistle]

Dear god

[river mango]

lmfao imagine if the description was displayed super tiny in game

[formal orchid]

so..
play my mod?

[sleek granite]

cross my mod

[dry dagger]

pie anyone

[trail berry]

play my cross

[river mango]

autumn i got a crash

where post

[trim cloud]

Yo does anyone know what spectrallib is and why entropy mod needs it/ how do I import it to get entropy mod to work and where to get an injector

[exotic belfry]

spectrallib is a library mod, originally built out of Cryptid functions. Libraries act just like mods and their install process is identical to content mods

[trim cloud]

So I get it from Balatro mod manager?

[exotic belfry]

It does not look like spectrallib is on BMM. You can get it from here https://github.com/SpectralPack/Spectrallib/releases/tag/v1.1.6

[trim cloud]

Ok and how do I import it?

[exotic belfry]

Do you know how to access your mods folder at all?

[trim cloud]

No

[exotic belfry]

-# this is why BMM is pain

[river mango]

windows key + r key

%AppData%/Balatro

[trim cloud]

I’m on Mac

[river mango]

oh uhh

[fair thistle]

i think im evil

[exotic belfry]

https://youtu.be/uDfxnwHO134?t=261

[river mango]

or just https://github.com/Steamodded/smods/wiki/Installing-Steamodded-mac

[exotic belfry]

that works too

[river mango]

booster crash

I've had a few but I chopped those down to running with other mods but this time it's literally just thac lol

and qol mods

opened an arcana pack, used the "create two tags" tarot, tags created were interest and planet pack, planet pack crashed the game when it opened

do you want the thingy

i still gotta add some tags lmfao

idk

[river mango]

judgement 3 when

lmfao joking

but yeah ig ill just ping you or something when i have crashes going forward

also my run is soft locked now

lmfao it auto opens the tags

[noble kernel]

Hey guys I was wondering if there's a way to reduce the FPS or frame rate on steam?

To help my balatro run better

[river mango]

frost utils

https://codeberg.org/frostice482/balatro-utils

[noble kernel]

How do I set this up💔

[river mango]

like any other mod lmfao

[noble kernel]

Dawg

Chill on me

I'm slow

I'm new

[river mango]

you know the mods folder right?

[noble kernel]

Tuff

[noble kernel]

😬

I low-key js use mod manager twin

[river mango]

hit the windows key and r at the same time

[limber oak]

why do we autoassume certain things

autoassuming a person has aseprite is bad enough as-is

[river mango]

type %AppData%/Balatro

[noble kernel]

What's aseprite

[limber oak]

balamodding aint THAT gated 😭

[unkempt current]

a program used for making pixel art

[limber oak]

cro i use paint.net 😭

[unkempt current]

It's very popular

I guess

[limber oak]

paint.net is also very popular
matbe a bit more cuz its free

[noble kernel]

Can I js copy and paste the zip

Or do I have to extract it

[limber oak]

extract its contents yeah

[noble kernel]

💔

[limber oak]

not to a new folder it makes bur directly

this saves you 95% of all trouble

[river mango]

lmfao

[limber oak]

directly in the mods folder

[noble kernel]

Is this somewhat right

[limber oak]

open the folder

[noble kernel]

Yuh

[finite storm]

guys what mods are recommended to play??

[granite forum]

why banner zipped

[granite forum]

Mine 🆒

[limber oak]

also you have discord on pc why cant you use PrtSc

[noble kernel]

Idk but it works so I'm not gonna touch it

[finite storm]

whats your mod

[limber oak]

play my mod

[river mango]

dawg that's evil for a username

[noble kernel]

2gb ram laptop chill

[granite forum]

#1398831011340615680
Better (NEWER) one:
#1446732905391849705

[cloud willow]

smonds 1503b allows zipped mods iirc

[finite storm]

your mod balatrodash?

[noble kernel]

I played that one

[limber oak]

#1429715570445521037

yes!

[cloud willow]

hi

frick my username is different here

[river mango]

check out #1209506514763522108

[noble kernel]

Then what

[limber oak]

screenshot the contents 😭

[finite storm]

I'mma play your mod and @granite forum mod in the same modpack

[noble kernel]

Aob

Gg

[finite storm]

I'm gonna make a modpack with mod people recommend me

[finite storm]

what mod from there u recommend

[fair thistle]

heavily work in progress #1487506153309999244

[limber oak]

pay attention to any and all dependencies

[river mango]

i reccomend a combo of mods by themselves

[cloud willow]

https://discord.com/channels/1116389027176787968/1471252195713482833
https://discord.com/channels/1116389027176787968/1326135270759993364

[finite storm]

ok

[river mango]

or just play autumns mod

[wind turtle]

https://discord.com/channels/1116389027176787968/1355819401198178455

[fair thistle]

it has gay and trans people and also has barely any content cuz we had to restart a lot of stuff

[limber oak]

looking inside the mod .json files tells you what mods you need to run

[limber oak]

its fine then
but why is banner zipped 😭

[noble kernel]

Couldn't get that one to work

[noble kernel]

Banner works zipped

Don't stress it

[limber oak]

???

[cloud willow]

cuase new smods allows mods to be zipped

[finite storm]

does that work with modded seals too??

[river mango]

btw not bothered by this at all but there is a #⚙・modding-support channel

[wind turtle]

Yes.

[noble kernel]

This one lowk more active and the conversation started here

[cloud willow]

.

[finite storm]

I should ask in there for mods recommendation?

[limber oak]

pretty sure it has to be crossmod as far as im concerned with seals on everything

[cloud willow]

no

[river mango]

no

[wind turtle]

Why couldn't you get it to work?

[finite storm]

that looks so cool

[lean dune]

omg it's Deleted User from Discord???

[noble kernel]

Not sure

[finite storm]

yes

[lean dune]

big fan

[finite storm]

is there any other mods yall recommend me??

[finite storm]

fr

[river mango]

your mod adds a bit of everything which is why i recommend it lol

[limber oak]

its a forum, pick whatever you want to play
a github link is all you need to download a mod

[finite storm]

thanks

[noble kernel]

Cryptid ig

I like Pokémon mods

And all the addons

[lean dune]

play revo's vault

[cloud willow]

cryptid will break

[finite storm]

I'm making a modpack with mods they recommending

[river mango]

this^

[finite storm]

I'mma add them

[finite storm]

this too

[limber oak]

i have a future update coming up which adds a lot of content btw 👀
i recently added a whole suit

[finite storm]

and the other mods I got sent

theres lot of mods laready

[noble kernel]

They work better on their own without other mods

[finite storm]

I think 10+

[noble kernel]

What mod?

[limber oak]

where else but balatro dash

[noble kernel]

Myb

Lemme search it

[limber oak]

the one comprehensive gd mod for balala 😭

[river mango]

@finite storm do understand that not every combination of mods is fully compatible with each other so I reccomend checking the miraheze or githubs for the mods themselves just to make sure

[limber oak]

#1429715570445521037

[finite storm]

ok

[noble kernel]

Is it not on mod manager?

Oh there's a space

[limber oak]

it is
but i dont recommend it

[noble kernel]

Balatro Dash

[noble kernel]

Why

[lean dune]

#1326135270759993364

[frigid furnace]

learn how to install manually instead of relying on claud-written garbage

[limber oak]

bmm can be jank sometimes

[river mango]

exactly

[lean dune]

use imm if you want a mod manager

[noble kernel]

It's worked well for me so far

[lean dune]

bmm janks out a lot

[noble kernel]

I was recommended bmm my first time here

[limber oak]

use imm instead, which is the same as bmm but works ingame

[river mango]

plus you can actually see the contents of the mods you're adding if you do it manually as the githubs show you everything you're installing

[noble kernel]

Yeah

Okay sure

Someone send imm

Whatever that is

[limber oak]

i use a combo of imm and bmm for the ultimate kit lmao

[lean dune]

https://canary.discord.com/channels/1116389027176787968/1413687995378176021

[noble kernel]

So I probably should delete everything

[noble kernel]

#unknown

[limber oak]

not everything

[normal hollow]

click it

[lean dune]

click it

[limber oak]

its one mod youre adding

[noble kernel]

W discord

[cloud willow]

click it

[river mango]

how does imm pull it's mods?

do they have to be manually added or

[limber oak]

balatro dash is also available on IMM so youre not missing out

[lean dune]

same index that bmm uses iirc

[river mango]

oh okay

[lean dune]

https://github.com/skyline69/balatro-mod-index

[river mango]

is it actually stable

[noble kernel]

#self-promotion

Which one

[lean dune]

i wouldn't know, i don't use mod manager. but i keep seeing bmm bugging out and haven't heard of such things with imm

it's pretty safe to assume it is more stable

[limber oak]

people have a tendency to recommend mods here
-# myself included

[noble kernel]

which zip

[limber oak]

get both just in case

[noble kernel]

💔

I'll think about it

What do they do

[limber oak]

amm adds things tamc needs

[noble kernel]

Too many abbreviations

[limber oak]

just like how bdash needs amulet

[noble kernel]

Sounds fire

I'll lowk get it

[limber oak]

the autumn circus needs stuff from autumn mood mechanics to function

[lean dune]

play SixSuits

[limber oak]

fyi
the suit is not out yet
i still yet to add content surrounding the suit itself

[noble kernel]

Gg no releases

[river mango]

whoa this thing is peak

[lean dune]

green code button is your friend

[limber oak]

primarly jokers, a tarot and a blind

[noble kernel]

Yooo that's fire Ty

[limber oak]

• Sin Joker
• Mineral Joker
• Tarot
• Blind that debuffs it

simple enough

[granite forum]

light mode github wow

[limber oak]

flashbanged

[granite forum]

is that the default? i swear it's not

[noble kernel]

Chill on me

[noble kernel]

It is

[granite forum]

huh

i associate github so heavily with a black color scheme

[limber oak]

out of all things
github is the only thing i use in light mode

or idk
github uses the system default i think

[normal hollow]

it isnt?? wtf

[limber oak]

system default - if you have a dark taskbar, chances are the website will also be dark

[noble kernel]

I don't

[fair thistle]

spreadsheet?

[noble kernel]

Idk how

[limber oak]

AHHH OUTDATED OS-

[noble kernel]

Wait

Do I put imm in the mods folder

Yeah

[limber oak]

yes

-# winxp??? how do you even keep secure

pretty sure you got a 9x preset there 😭

[finite storm]

this is unrelated topic but did all see "The Loopler Demo"

[limber oak]

no

[finite storm]

It's a very cool roguelike

[limber oak]

bmm keeps telling me that i can "get official" bdash like bro??? i have unreleased content i made like bro i cant

[finite storm]

bmm is AI made??

[rain orbit]

No

[limber oak]

no, its coded in rust but for a rust program its plenty unreliable

[finite storm]

I'm so slow I believed AutumnMood

[limber oak]

it does as its supposed to do but it doesnt do a really good job at it

[noble kernel]

so should i js delete everything and restart

[fair thistle]

I want to delete it but the problem is that I haven't figured out how to put a shortcut on the taskbar

[limber oak]

wdym delete everything

theres no need

[noble kernel]

how do i delete bmm

[fair thistle]

itsNotJust("x");
its("y");
end

[limber oak]

you just... uninstall it.

[noble kernel]

where

😭

[limber oak]

somewhere in control panel idk

[noble kernel]

whats a control panel 💔

[fair thistle]

my mod is at a crawl please

[forest knoll]

at this point have you considered google

[frigid furnace]

If you're on Windows you should be able to search "uninstall apps" and it should take you to the place in settings to uninstall apps

[noble kernel]

no

[frigid furnace]

I don't know anything further since 1) never installed bmm 2) on linux :V

[finite storm]

oh....

[noble kernel]

i trust the random ppl on discord with all my files

[frigid furnace]

Anyways fuck off with the incessant and unconstructive doomsaying.

[finite storm]

dayum

The people in this channel hate each other

[exotic belfry]

Not necessarily, BMM is just a very devisive topic

[finite storm]

I feel uncomfortable

[limber oak]

not the first time, and certainly not the last

this is not for the feint of heart

[exotic belfry]

faint?

[limber oak]

words :D

[finite storm]

what this mean?

sorry I'm stupid

[limber oak]

things like this happen

[limber oak]

we were all there

from astra to even ruby

[finite storm]

whos ruby

Ik astra bc I saw his name up on this chat

[limber oak]

entropy dev

[exotic belfry]

autumn this isn't something to get this fiery over

[limber oak]

me with the direction my mod is headed

[exotic belfry]

From what I understand the AI shit on BMM's end was a misunderstanding, as it's used for processes on git's side and nothing to do with the app itself. I still disagree with usage of it, but it's not vibecoded slop

[limber oak]

something closer to a reactive machine?
specialized to do one task very well

[exotic belfry]

smthn like that

[lean dune]

also notice how this file was added way past the app being fully usable

[finite storm]

dam... You look rude

whats a backbone?

[lean dune]

in other words the manager itself is evidently not vibecoded slop

it has its major flaws and i would never consider using it, but that's a different topic

[exotic belfry]

Cannot agree more lmao

[finite storm]

I look up in the dictionary

it means a high-speed, high-capacity digital connection which forms the axis of a local or wide area network

right

[limber oak]

??

[exotic belfry]

??????

[finite storm]

here

[finite storm]

backbone

[limber oak]

i didnt say anything

[lean dune]

well this was bound to happen again, wasn't it..

[river mango]

Nah nah nah if having a backbone is shunned in this community then that really changes my views of the community as a whole

[exotic belfry]

We are not saying that at all Autumn

[limber oak]

also
modding rule 9 jumpscare

its jimbover

[finite storm]

what you mean again??

[lean dune]

autumn left the server

[finite storm]

WHAT

I DIDN'T KNEW BT THIS

[lean dune]

(it's not the first or even the second or third time this has happened)

[finite storm]

AM GONNA GET BANNED

[river mango]

No

[exotic belfry]

[limber oak]

you wont get banned

[lean dune]

this conversation was weird but I'm sure none of us are getting banned over it

[finite storm]

he seems weird

[limber oak]

cuz there was no mention of it

[finite storm]

why he be rude to people then leave the server

[exotic belfry]

they*

[finite storm]

u don't need to be rude to make a point

[finite storm]

sorry

[limber oak]

but there is a line you shouldnt cross

[finite storm]

I'm slow

[lean dune]

they often have strong opinions which gets them into heated arguments

[exotic belfry]

yeah

[finite storm]

which line

[river mango]

Dog

[finite storm]

so I don't get banned

[exotic belfry]

It's a shame cuz when they're not heated like this they were fairly pleasant

[river mango]

Everyone just needs to take a moment

[limber oak]

avoid bringing it up overall and youre clear
dont wanna test the waters

[finite storm]

I'mma do that

[finite storm]

fr

[lean dune]

i mean this server's moderation isn't super strict, but it's better to just avoid the topic

[finite storm]

something I learned abt debating is

[limber oak]

bad idea

[lean dune]

it's also just not pleasant to chat about

[exotic belfry]

in modding chat*

[river mango]

Lmfao the moderation is a suggestion and that’s imo but yeah you’re right

[finite storm]

I meant avoiding

[limber oak]

thats fine then

[finite storm]

If someone makes a point and you get emotional about it

you need to calm down

and reflect on why you're getting emotional

[lean dune]

true but that's all i know

[exotic belfry]

lmfao

[river mango]

I have several instances where moderation just didn’t give a fuck lol

[lean dune]

i may or may not have given a few too obvious hints that err on the wrong side of rule 4 and so far no one has cared..

[exotic belfry]

truuuue lmfao

[finite storm]

most of the time your ego is protecting u or your identity is tied to that belief in someway

[limber oak]

i mean if you have a copy of balala you should be able to do whatever to it

-# which incl. modding it for phones

[river mango]

Whoa buddy

That’s a slippery slope

[finite storm]

It's scientific though

[lean dune]

yeah but it's obvious why they have to put a lock on that officially

[river mango]

Dog

[lean dune]

which includes not allowing discussion of it here

-# i can point in the direction of resources though

[finite storm]

The amygdala activates in response to social threat

and when your identity or self-image is challenged ur brain treats it as a threat

bc our brains are still primitive

[rain orbit]

Mods don't exist to look for people to punish, they exist to make sure things don't fly off the rails
If a minor scuffle resolves itself they likely aren't gonna involve themself unless someone did something actually bad

[river mango]

Yeah I get that

[lean dune]

i mean rule 9 is intentionally phrased more harshly than is enforced

[rain orbit]

We get it already

[river mango]

Low key I get you’re new around here and all Deleted but like stop talking before you dig yourself a hole

[rain orbit]

By the way our brains aren't simply 'primitive', all of its functions still protect you in the modern day

[finite storm]

Yeah

Bad wording

thanks for correcting me

[exotic belfry]

It seems like you're a bit smarter than you've let on lmao

[rain orbit]

Wghar

[exotic belfry]

not you

[rain orbit]

aw

[finite storm]

Wait I said something bad?

[river mango]

Brother in Christ move this to #🃏・off-topic

[finite storm]

oh yea

this channel abt modding

[rain orbit]

[finite storm]

Btw whats ur favorite mod getting back to topic

[forest knoll]

reached out to autumn btw and she's done done
she banned herself by talking in the honeypot and she emptied out her friends list so i can't even dm her anymore

[exotic belfry]

good lord

[finite storm]

what

[exotic belfry]

I noticed the deleted messages so I wondered why that happened. jfc

[river mango]

she deleted her repos too

[rain orbit]

I just got here idk what went on

[finite storm]

Since you seem like you're her friend try bringing up therapy or something that behaviour doesn't look normal and is self-destructive

[forest knoll]

i can't even dm her anymore

[finite storm]

Oh yea

[limber oak]

cannot be done

[finite storm]

my slowness hitting again

[river mango]

dog shut the fuck up

please

[finite storm]

You good?

[river mango]

you're insufferable

[limber oak]

ok thats enough problems for the year

[finite storm]

Bro are you genuinely okay

I don't get why u saying that

[rain orbit]

We know you're trying to be helpful but your lack of nuance is only adding onto the stress despite your efforts

[forest knoll]

i do agree with potato tbh, you're taking this sort of condescending tone (even if it wasn't intended) and offering suggestions/help when it wasn't asked for

[finite storm]

Acc that makes sense

I read in a book once that when people talks abt something and you offer them suggestions or help without first asking It is seem like a annoying behaviour

I should have asked first

[fair thistle]

-# at least you're self aware!

[rain orbit]

Natural situations don't always warrant what simulations call for

[finite storm]

I'll try to do better next time and learn from my mistakes

This chat now looks uncomfortable

It feels like If you put bunch of mini geniuses in a place but you forget to add emotional intelligence

[limber oak]

its more than that, trust me

[lean dune]

what happened here

[limber oak]

things

[rain orbit]

It's more along the lines of putting someone who graduated with chatgpt next to people who are actually qualified

[lean dune]

oh

[finite storm]

Wait yall use chatgpt??

Isn't it like prohibited or something

on rule 8

[rain orbit]

A prime example here guys

[lean dune]

???

[rain orbit]

[finite storm]

I'm also confused

[lean dune]

i think you might need a breather icl

[finite storm]

I thought talking abt AI was against the rules

[limber oak]

you need a breather

[finite storm]

For what

[long hare]

yes

[finite storm]

Why is he bringing it out of nowhere

[limber oak]

just... take a step back

[finite storm]

that acc confuses me

[noble kernel]

yo man js go work on the modpack and log off discord for a while

[limber oak]

more than enough harm was done today

[finite storm]

???

What

Am not doing any harm

[limber oak]

just, log off for the day

work on your modpack like you said you would
if you need anything just ask

[finite storm]

I don't wanna log off now though

I'm curious why I should log off

[rain orbit]

Debating the use of it is against the rules as it often leads to conflict
By 'graduating with chatgpt' I am referencing how many students simply make an ai do their schoolwork, and thus when they graduate they aren't really qualified to do so since they cheated
I was comparing your lack of nuance to being unqualified to do stuff

[finite storm]

I'm not graduated btw

[river mango]

it shows

[finite storm]

You're using too much complex words

[limber oak]

not literally

take a step back
recollect your thoughts
do the thing you said you would

[finite storm]

You know you don't need such complexity for simple stuff right?

[rain orbit]

Dawg its rhetorical

[limber oak]

im being as simple as i can be, and we all need to take a step back asap

[noble kernel]

youre just annoying everyone, its not what youre trying to do but you are annoying

[finite storm]

I'm not trying to offend people or anything

is there any kind of insult I threw without realizing

or something like that

[limber oak]

you didnt say anything bad but youre pushing a bad narrative

so take a step back

[finite storm]

what narrative I'm trying to push?

[lean dune]

it's just that the general vibe of the conversation is going over your head, which is causing things to move in a bad direction

[limber oak]

youre moving the topic in an undesirable spot

[finite storm]

My head is fine

[limber oak]

not literally 😭

[forest knoll]

is this ragebait 😭

[finite storm]

I meant emotionally

not literally

[noble kernel]

guys its litteraly bait

[forest knoll]

"the conversation is going over your head" does not mean "your head is not fine"

[limber oak]

im not even angry anymore

[noble kernel]

how did it take you so long to realise

[finite storm]

Why you are angry

[lean dune]

i am done with this

[rain orbit]

You aren't insulting anyone, you just talk without considering rhetoric

[river mango]

I swear to god I'm about to ping mods and report you as a troll you troglodyte

[finite storm]

You can

I acc don't get it

[noble kernel]

its not rage bait its just him pretending to be slow to irriate ppl

[forest knoll]

alright potato you should probably step back too lol

[finite storm]

The mods maybe could explain

[forest knoll]

block and move on

[finite storm]

I'm not pretending to be slow or anything

[rain orbit]

I think this might be a mix of a big lack of nuance mixed with english not being their first language

[dusty token]

jame

[finite storm]

Exactly

English is not my first language

[rain orbit]

A volatile concoction

[finite storm]

thats why I'm asking the meaning of the words

[forest knoll]

jaming it

[finite storm]

Thanks for noticing btw

[noble kernel]

jaming all over the place

[finite storm]

So the problem is that since english is not my first language I'm having a hard time trying to get what yall mean?

[dusty token]

||nobody in my team except wilson made progress 😭||

[noble kernel]

w wilson

[forest knoll]

i wish your team the best of luck this next week

[limber oak]

i need to wake iso up

[river mango]

even then you can tell what's appropriate for a conversation

[rain orbit]

Because english isn't your first language you take everything literally, which when paired with your lack of situational awareness annoys everyone

[finite storm]

Got it

thanks

[limber oak]

context matters

[finite storm]

I'll try to not take everything literally

[lean dune]

yeah this is totally understandable. a bit more conversational awareness would be helpful though, which isn't just a language learning thing

[finite storm]

I swear I wasn't trying to ragebait or be slow on purpose or anything

[limber oak]

its more like a

a...
idk

[rain orbit]

The two aren't directly connected but it's volatile when seen together

[noble kernel]

fireice

[limber oak]

uh yeah

[lean dune]

yeah this is true

[fair thistle]

the stro

[noble kernel]

whats a control panel

you never answered

[limber oak]

😭 i cant with bro

[noble kernel]

im sorry dawg

[forest knoll]

it's a windows thing
you mentioned you were on mac right? you can forget about control panel

[noble kernel]

whats mac

[latent crescent]

@dusty token may I ask you do a bit of performance testing?

[dusty token]

sure

[noble kernel]

im on windows yeah

[fair thistle]

anyways since it calmed down

[rain orbit]

I'm like so cool fr

[finite storm]

then this is the control panel

[finite storm]

It's in portuguesse btw

[latent crescent]

I want you compare latest SMODS release with this one

[lean dune]

oh shucks i should sleep, it's somehow 1am

[finite storm]

time passing so quickly

for me It's 8 pm I js realized

wild

[latent crescent]

I know you have better tools and graphs etc etc so maybe I'll see wtf is happening

[dusty token]

is it the uibox stuff?

[latent crescent]

It's more about UIElement shaders

But it affects overall game performance, so just entering a run is enough

Especially memory usage

[dusty token]

kay

[latent crescent]

What's very weird that somehow small changes I made to optimize new features resulted in better performance than when there was no new features

Which doesnt make sense at all

I dont understand what is happening

for me it was like few fps increase but for someone it's like 10% or even 50%

Only way why this happened is I somehow tricked jit do it's work, otherwise there's no logical explanation for this

[river mango]

Y'all should be glad Ruby isn't in this server because she wouldn't have been as restrained as me

final note

anywhom

resume modding conversation without distractions

[latent crescent]

[finite storm]

You seem emotionally smart

[rain orbit]

Smarter than stupid does not equal generally smart

No offense to potato

[finite storm]

Ruby's that bad?

[latent crescent]

she's uncontrollable a bit

[river mango]

Neither me nor Ruby are stupid

[finite storm]

True

stupid a very strong word

[fair thistle]

road work ahead? uh, i hope it does

[river mango]

🤣

[finite storm]

I saw the entropy mod

[river mango]

hi astro

[rain orbit]

I forgot what I was gonna say

[finite storm]

I found it really cool

[fair thistle]

ROFLMAO!!! LMFAO!!!!! ROFLCOPTER!!!! 360 NO SCOPE!!!!!!!

[finite storm]

It sucks when that happens

[finite storm]

You gonna say something then your mind just goes blank

[rain orbit]

[fair thistle]

this shitass cat

[river mango]

[rain orbit]

[lean dune]

cargo space? car no do that. car go road

[fair thistle]

car does go space

[latent crescent]

road needs to be hit

[fair thistle]

i exist

[forest knoll]

star go space?

[lean dune]

someone likes to discard jacks

[fair thistle]

they should rename it to stargo space

[noble kernel]

So hypocritically if I were to delete everything in my balatro mod folder could I download imm and start from there?

[fair thistle]

say that again...

[latent crescent]

I find hitting the road kinda fun

[fair thistle]

"hypocritically"? ;-;

[forest knoll]

don't delete smods
otherwise yes

[lean dune]

you can download imm without deleting your mods

but yeah you can do that

[noble kernel]

What's that

[lean dune]

steamodded

[noble kernel]

Cause I low-key deleted everything

Fawk

Is there an undo button

[lean dune]

Just reinstall it, it's fine

[frigid furnace]

you should also have a recycling bin

[noble kernel]

It's okay I pressed cntrl z

[lean dune]

https://github.com/Steamodded/smods/releases/tag/1.0.0-beta-1606b

[noble kernel]

Airplane?

yeah that's where they normally are

[noble kernel]

Luv

[lean dune]

soup bowl

[latent crescent]

can you check my optimization pr and check fps, I do feel like I'm insane and I invented magic

[rain orbit]

Vanilla?

You can't eat a game

[fair thistle]

Astro?

im sorry ill leave

[latent crescent]

so no difference

[noble kernel]

Eyeball?

Basket or foot?

[lean dune]

I will in approximately 8-72 hours. for now I'm going to sleep

[finite storm]

Whattttt whats all these stuff???

[fair thistle]

water bucket

release

[rain orbit]

CD?

Who is Dee?

[dusty token]

you did cut down uie drawtime from 400microsec to 320microsec
and - 200kb/frame malloc on draw

[noble kernel]

Ringtone?

I don't have his number sorry

[dusty token]

could try profile it but i dont think it'll produce any meaningful result

[lean dune]

tone? like toneblock?

[rain orbit]

Dumbell?

Bells can't think

[latent crescent]

may I aks you do the same but for older smods?

[dusty token]

which one

[latent crescent]

like any release before 1503a

[dusty token]

oki

[latent crescent]

(it's release where cutting-edge technology was invented)

[noble kernel]

Question mark?

Okay I'll be the bad cop

[dusty token]

1501a?

[fair thistle]

cutting edge technology?

don't you mean knives

[latent crescent]

yes good enough

[noble kernel]

My days are numbered?

Yeah it's called a calendar idiot

[frigid furnace]

yall pls

[latent crescent]

I mean it's literally cutting-edge technology

[noble kernel]

I should see a doctor?

I only see you

[forest knoll]

oinite? what about oiday?

[noble kernel]

Meta?

Met a what?

[latent crescent]

is your fps locked to 144 or smth

[dusty token]

no

[fair thistle]

i wanna see it cut a tomata

[frigid furnace]

Oinite when Oisn'tite enters the room

[fair thistle]

met a woman

@forest knoll !!!

[normal hollow]

there's no O in ite

[frigid furnace]

i copypasted this from my friend group without realiziing that this doesnt even work

[forest knoll]

starspace? yea there's a lot of stars in space

[frigid furnace]

Should have been Ooutite

[noble kernel]

Woman?

Don't assume my gender

[latent crescent]

difference in memory in insane who, 41 vs 14

[fair thistle]

coder?

i can't have a wife in my computer what are you on about

[noble kernel]

41?

What did he win?

[dusty token]

you can try reducing the extra 47kb on drawframe, down to 3k

[noble kernel]

Do you guys want me to stop

[latent crescent]

can I?

[dusty token]

no idea

[fair thistle]

oinite when hey night walks in
[ she was translated from British English to general English ]

[dusty token]

1501a is 3kb, yours is 51kb

[latent crescent]

That's expected because every element draw call creates array of shaders to iterate

wait, I can just store it in element

[manic summit]

🐅

[fair thistle]

hi shinky

[latent crescent]

Hm, I'll try to do one thing

[fair thistle]

FUCK

[hardy brook]

Who the fuck are you even? Yeah I'm pulling you back into this

[noble kernel]

Array?

I hope it's sunshine

[latent crescent]

stop

[finite storm]

This was random as heck lol

[noble kernel]

Sorry😭😭

[finite storm]

You don't know me

Do u wanna add me though

[hardy brook]

Hell no

[finite storm]

I send u friend request

[fair thistle]

i swear to God this phone already got a crack on it from the doctor I don't wanna throw it against the wall

[finite storm]

Why

[hardy brook]

I don't want your friend request. Why you causing problems?

[finite storm]

Wym

I'm causing problems???

[hardy brook]

I was told you were yeah

[fair thistle]

-# sorry to contribute to the argument but it feels like this dude's personality is decided on a d100

[finite storm]

LMAO

Is it bad I found that genuinely funny

[hardy brook]

Astro, explain in like a sentence what the hell happened?

[finite storm]

I'm not tryna cause problems I just wanna make friends

[noble kernel]

I can't seem to get the mods from imm?

[finite storm]

What kind of problems I caused?

[noble kernel]

@limber oak hiiiiiiiiiiii

[fair thistle]

okay so people getting mad as usual, but deleted isn't really understanding a lot of what anybody is saying

because English is not their first language

[hardy brook]

I was told you caused someone to go "full jen" and delete their mod repos

[finite storm]

@hardy brook can you be my friend though

Nooooo

that was not me

[hardy brook]

Yes it was

[forest knoll]

that's conflating two separate events i think

[finite storm]

I didn't even talk to them

that was not me

[forest knoll]

autumn did go "full jen" as you say

[fair thistle]

i don't think that was their fault much, if at all

[forest knoll]

but i don't think it was deleted's fault?

she was really mad about ai usage in balatro modding

[finite storm]

I didn't even bring the topic up

[hardy brook]

@river mango Yeah I'm pulling you back in now too.

[forest knoll]

and frustrated that everyone else didn't seem to be as mad as her

[finite storm]

It was another person

[west hill]

@whole hatch can you come and bring some sense here please?

[fair thistle]

i don't think it's a good time to go full attack mode right now shinku

[finite storm]

Btw can we be friends please

I don't have friends in real life

so I'm trying to make friends in discord

[forest knoll]

no means no

[finite storm]

sorry

I'm new to that stuff

[noble kernel]

New to the word no💔

[finite storm]

I meant making friends

[river mango]

#⚙・modding-general message well this for one

[fair thistle]

sorry, deleted but people do get a bit frustrated when you don't "get the hint"

[noble kernel]

I thought IMM was supposed to be able to download mods in-game?

[dusty token]

- SMODS.resolve_ui_shaders -> new tables
- UIElement.draw_self -> new local function _draw
- UIElement.set_element_shader (SMODS src/utils.lua:3944-3958) -> new tables
you can try those if possible

[whole hatch]

hey guys

whats up

[finite storm]

It's a fact

[hardy brook]

Nah. I was told this and it was indeed the cause

[finite storm]

Idk

I'm tryna make friends

[noble kernel]

I'm struggling with imm

[finite storm]

but people are throwing insults at me

[fair thistle]

deleted isn't great at english

[noble kernel]

Help me out twin

[finite storm]

I was able to make some friends in #🃏・off-topic though

[hardy brook]

Time me out before I do something I regret please.

like an hour

[fair thistle]

if you just talk more clearly and concisely about what they did wrong it would be a lot easier for them to understand how to change more in the future

[latent crescent]

working on it!

[noble kernel]

I suggest staying in that channel unless you need help with mods

[fair thistle]

i know you guys get mad a lot but it's probably not the greatest to be pedantic about someone who doesn't know how words entirely work

[finite storm]

I wanna make friends here too though

[forest knoll]

"deleted user" (not actually a deleted user) seems to be very frustrating to deal with for a lot of people (i don't know why they aren't just blocking him if that's the case)
someone honeypot'ed themself over an ai dispute, deleted all their mods, and unfriended everyone, and i think tensions are just high in general

[noble kernel]

I don't recommend

[finite storm]

I didn't do anything I swear please don't ban me

I just wanna make friends

[whole hatch]

reading up it seems like people are blaming deleted user for the honeypot thing, that's not the case im assuming tho

[fair thistle]

yeah, deleted is just not very good at english, saw some offhanded comments and was like "THEY DID WHAAAT?!"

[forest knoll]

deleted user was probably the last straw on the camel's back

[hardy brook]

It is the case from what someone DMed me

[fair thistle]

i don't think it's their fault

[river mango]

yeah i think that's the premise

[fair thistle]

and even then; please don't go full attack mode right now; this isn't a great way to get them to understand what they did

[finite storm]

Please I didn't do anything 😭

[onyx nest]

i didnt get involved while it was happening but from what i saw autumn got very frustrated over the usage of ai independently of everything that was happening with deleted user

[fair thistle]

you're not gonna get banned, deleted

you didn't do much wrong, you are just misinformed

[finite storm]

Why are people so rude to me though

[forest knoll]

the main dispute was autumn was very frustrated about the ai usage in balatro mod manager, seemed to have convinced herself that "people who are downplaying the ai there are also using ai on the wiki", and things just kept escalating

[finite storm]

I must be so annoying

[hardy brook]

What? You think I'm just gonna be passive when they made someone snap and nuke everything?

[finite storm]

thats why I don't have any friends

[hardy brook]

I'm not

[fair thistle]

if you were going to get punished, the moderators (people with the green names) would most likely DM/address you directly or would've banned you by now

[hardy brook]

Idc if I get in trouble myself at this point

[whole hatch]

guys lets chill out, if yall keep attacking one another I'll just mute everyone rn 👀 👀

[hardy brook]

Please do

[river mango]

yes but the user also was saying harsh things to autumn. going as far as to reply to their messages

[forest knoll]

shinku please
as i'm trying to explain, deleted wasn't the whole or even primary cause of the nuke

[onyx nest]

yeah i would wager that deleted had little to no influence on the outcome of the situation with autumn

[noble kernel]

I suggest not typing right now and just listening, that's what I'm doing

[finite storm]

Please don't mute me

[fair thistle]

again, as meta said; last straw on the camel's back

trying to be the vigilante won't fix much when it's clear that they weren't the problem

[dusty token]

btw #1472449326214152284, you can use that

f2, top left, see alloc part

[fair thistle]

they said sorry already, and they would most likely love to make amends

[hardy brook]

Whatever. I swear every time I'm told about something happening in the balatro modding discord, it's always something negative.

idek why i came back anymore

[fair thistle]

going attack mode makes it worse though

[latent crescent]

okay, few lines of code decreased amount of allocated memory by half

[tranquil vessel]

Wait who honeypot'ed themselves

[fair thistle]

autumnmood

[hardy brook]

Autumn

[finite storm]

that doesn't mean what I think it does right????

[fair thistle]

there's a honeypot channel

[hardy brook]

Lowkey half tempted to do it myself at this point

[tranquil vessel]

ah thanks

[fair thistle]

normal lingo in servers but when you type in a "honeypot" you get banned immediately

[noble kernel]

What's it for?

[forest knoll]

they sent a message in #ceremonial-dagger to instantly get themselves permabanned from the discord server

[noble kernel]

Ohhhh

[finite storm]

Oh thank god

I thought it was another thing

[whole hatch]

okay wow

[manic summit]

Catch bots that spam in every channel

[whole hatch]

didn't read the entire thing but yall love getting heated apparently

[noble kernel]

Real

[fair thistle]

i didn't want to say much

[noble kernel]

Can anyone help me with IMM

I can't get it working

[dusty token]

wats not working?

[whole hatch]

so bascially it was smn like autumn left because of a debate regarding like one miniscule part of BMM being vibecoded and then things just went to shit there

[noble kernel]

I was told I could download mods from in-game but I don't see that option

[tranquil vessel]

Modding general chat getting heated? They would never /s

[dusty token]

you have the browse button on the menu?

[noble kernel]

No

One sec I'll ss

[dusty token]

you didnt install it properly

[noble kernel]

😭😭

[dusty token]

...i think

[fair thistle]

anyhow since it's actually cooled off ive been thinking about getting into coding once summer starts and i get used to my drawing tablet

[forest knoll]

you should :3

[dreamy abyss]

What in the fresh hell happened here?

[finite storm]

Thats nice

[fair thistle]

yeah i should most likely, might not get into the more detailed stuff unless it truly clicks with me, but i hope the tools work

[dusty token]

show your mods folder

[finite storm]

Lolhappy explained it

[forest knoll]

big debate/argument/heated events, you don't really need to worry about it
(autumn is gone again unfortunately)

[fair thistle]

-# "what the fuck happened here" mfs when i show them the scroll wheel

[dreamy abyss]

no i read through but like

[fair thistle]

im jokring

i almost said "jorking" fml

[noble kernel]

Argument?

Meant what?

[dusty token]

whats in balatro-imm-master?

[hardy brook]

I'm getting off.

[fair thistle]

alr