⚙・modding-general

[dense lily]

i didnt mewn to oh tiwce

twice

[dire meadow]

😇

[dense lily]

im lagging

[buoyant kestrel]

theres no point in going against it though

like what would you get out of it

[dire meadow]

like

2 speed

[buoyant kestrel]

very lucrative licensing in the balatro modding community

[dire meadow]

2 unspecified units of speed

[vale sage]

suppp

[civic atlas]

israelgpt solve this quadratic for me

[dire meadow]

dude i really want to

have a custom set of

consumables for my mod

but I CAN'T ART

BasilSob

[civic atlas]

just scribble??

ez??

[dire meadow]

no

that's slop

i hate slop

[civic atlas]

its fun

[past lava]

same

[dire meadow]

we must combine our powers

to create a mod with too many cooks

[granite smelt]

yall should help me make my mod

[dire meadow]

y'all should help me make my mod

[past lava]

like the short film

[dire meadow]

i used a '

i win

[dire meadow]

steamlaugheyes

[granite smelt]

or at least mentor me how to code because I suck

I can art but can't code

[dire meadow]

I can code but can't art

👀

[granite smelt]

🤔

[dire meadow]

#possible-transaction-of-services

[west hill]

What’s the mod?

[past lava]

yeah but i use jokerforge

[dire meadow]

jokerslop...

doesn't support base conversion 0/10

[past lava]

wouldn't be called forgeslop

[granite smelt]

Working title is "Citrus"

[buoyant kestrel]

don't call it forgeslop

[dire meadow]

honestly i just see jokerforge as really limiting if you try to do the stuff i do

[buoyant kestrel]

its jokerslop

[dire meadow]

since you can't hook with jokerforge

[buoyant kestrel]

it has nothing to do with jokerforge

you can be mediocre all on your own

[past lava]

yeah but that would be referring to jokers

[dire meadow]

slopforge

[buoyant kestrel]

yes

[past lava]

i wish i can code

[dire meadow]

you got a idea doc 👀

[granite smelt]

making a bunch of jokers that makes suit-based hands (Flush) more "fun" (hopefully)

[buoyant kestrel]

i wonder what is in balatro

[granite smelt]

yeah I have a full concept already

[west hill]

Sounds interesting

[dire meadow]

flush sweep

balatro strat: play flush until your hands fall off

[past lava]

it's so confusing too

like

i don't get it

[civic atlas]

doesnt even have to be inheritly jokers

[dire meadow]

its basically

math

[civic atlas]

its just... slop

no attributes

[buoyant kestrel]

ong if someone is making deckslop

we can say deckslop

[dire meadow]

i basically just

started coding in lua one day

[buoyant kestrel]

its different because not making jokers means they are thinking

[civic atlas]

if i make slay the spire decks would it be deckslop

[dire meadow]

bruteforce method for the win 🔥

[buoyant kestrel]

they have provable cogitative processes if they focus on something other than jokers

[granite smelt]

I must admit some of the concepts are pretty complicated

[civic atlas]

no not food jokers

[dire meadow]

i mean there are just

pools of food jokers

[wintry badge]

Whats the other mod that's like sticky fingers.

[dire meadow]

mostly from mods

[past lava]

i mean
i think this kinda makes sense

[granite smelt]

my mod adds more food jokers too

[dire meadow]

then

mark them as apart of the food pool

[civic atlas]

coding without markdown sounds like actual hell

[dire meadow]

actually why am i telling you this

🪱

[buoyant kestrel]

i remember you're'e unique effects...

[dire meadow]

harder to perish sounds like

maybe like

50% slower scaling

[civic atlas]

markdown saves you a LOT of debug time

trust mw

[dire meadow]

since the decay that

[dire meadow]

food jokers do

[buoyant kestrel]

smods scaling api exists don't it

[dire meadow]

are actually scaling

[dire meadow]

aren't these global variables

i can just mess with those

[buoyant kestrel]

yeah

thats easy shit

[granite smelt]

should be

[dire meadow]

alot of these are too vague

i like specific numbers

[buoyant kestrel]

i mean balatro does that sometimes lmao

[civic atlas]

i sure love gee dot gaem

[dire meadow]

i mean i diid too once

but

that's mostly to favor the player

[dire meadow]

just say card creating for the fiirst one

[civic atlas]

unlock condition...

[dire meadow]

i think i can

actually im not sure to do the last one

but sounds easy

[buoyant kestrel]

i HATE the player

[civic atlas]

the last one...

[dire meadow]

i have a love/hate relationship with the player

[buoyant kestrel]

i hope they misinterpret all of the joker effects and die

[dire meadow]

like my mod uses more

complex concepts

like

base conversion

[civic atlas]

i dont think every suit choosing joker has a universal function for coosing so youd have to brute force every one

[past lava]

why me though

[dire meadow]

and setting all visible digits in a number to a certain value

players can mess up what all visible means

[civic atlas]

or maybe im small minded

[dire meadow]

you can just

[granite smelt]

looking back some of these concepts seems to be trash

[buoyant kestrel]

kill

[past lava]

aw man

[dire meadow]

flash sweep

[west hill]

These are all interesting ideas but I think the t2 food one is poorly designed

[frigid mica]

the nxkoo button

[dire meadow]

@buoyant kestrel you should remake the popup

trust

[granite smelt]

I would agree. I made most of these before I graduated college so it's just dumping whatever

[buoyant kestrel]

balatrue

[dire meadow]

DO IT THEN!!!

[buoyant kestrel]

mostly i'm putting it off because i go into lag central

[past lava]

i'm gonna use this on soulware

[buoyant kestrel]

no other website causes this

[dire meadow]

BasilSob

[buoyant kestrel]

even with debugger pause

[dire meadow]

jamirror

[granite smelt]

:v

[dire meadow]

i keep seeing your pfp as susie gaster

[wintry badge]

Which mod is better mobile like dragging or sticky fingers.

[buoyant kestrel]

gaster

[past lava]

my full name is sillyz gaster

[dire meadow]

oh my laster namer?

susie gasterer

[west hill]

Is this missing an effect

[civic atlas]

0 in 4 chance to add an edition to a joker 🔥

[buoyant kestrel]

nothing changed

[dire meadow]

its just

[dire meadow]

so peak

[dire meadow]

lime_effy

idea for your mod

[buoyant kestrel]

balatro mod that makes 1 in 4 or worse actually never trigger

to increase the ragebait

[dire meadow]

joker that inverts chances
1-1/4=3/4

[buoyant kestrel]

oops! fuck you

[dire meadow]

noo

that's good

its like a better oops all 6s

[granite smelt]

no I just made another item that has a chance to debuff something, it's against the philosophy of "no jokers should synergize with each other" but I'm not making this vanilla anyway

[civic atlas]

what if i have a 2 in 1 chance

[buoyant kestrel]

1 in 2 -> 2 in 2 -> 0 in 2

[civic atlas]

oh my god

[granite smelt]

yk what Imma write this down

[dire meadow]

-1 chance

[civic atlas]

oh nvm

i thought it cycled

1 to 2 to 0

[dire meadow]

no its negative

but

[west hill]

From experience, making probabilities less likely is a terrible effect with almost no uses

[dire meadow]

the wheel

[civic atlas]

glass cards are like the only example of when its good

[granite smelt]

I made it SOLELY for glass cards

so it's trash

[buoyant kestrel]

"Wheel of Fortunes always trigger. All other probabilities fail."

[buoyant kestrel]

why don't you just

make it target glass

problem solved

[granite smelt]

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[west hill]

It’d still be trash

[dire meadow]

this joker was made in mind to be a slightly better version of all of those setting nominator to zero

[buoyant kestrel]

no but it wouldn't be actively bad

[civic atlas]

it still wouldnt be

good

[dire meadow]

also you can use

oops all 6s to make thiis

2 in 5

which is still worse then 1/4

[west hill]

This is also pretty bad

[granite smelt]

okay I have been hiding the main course from you, these are the main 8 jokers that will be the heart of the mod

[dire meadow]

correct!

but

lucky cards

[buoyant kestrel]

wheel of fortune triggering with this one

[dire meadow]

also benefit from this

1 in 15 -> 1 in 5

[dire meadow]

exposed

[granite smelt]

and most other jokers that I have not shown needs these 8 jokers to function

[dire meadow]

BasilSob

[civic atlas]

thats still a specific example

[west hill]

Improving one specific chance to make almost all others worse 👌

[granite smelt]

Example:

[dire meadow]

seltzer if it was good

[buoyant kestrel]

well its certainly a Mistake

[dire meadow]

no its three chances

glass car

lucky truck

and lucky truck's other chance

[dire meadow]

where's lucky truck

[past lava]

rhythm doctor mentioned sorta

[buoyant kestrel]

i'm realizing what my inane behaviour as a deltarune fan looks like

from the outside

its really funny

[woven orchid]

im wathcihgnrhyhtmdocotor ieode right now

[dire meadow]

lily did you eat something

[woven orchid]

no thats the problem

[dire meadow]

balatrue

i knew that

[granite smelt]

🚬

[buoyant kestrel]

doctor
doctor
doctor

clearly a homestuck reference

[dire meadow]

acidic deck sounds l ike it would suck ass

[buoyant kestrel]

-# ||got your ass||

[past lava]

we've gone full circle

[granite smelt]

I thought x2 interest is a fair trade

[dire meadow]

its like that one uncommon joker

but with a con

[woven orchid]

roll -1 joker slot twice and you cannot recover

[dire meadow]

https://balatrowiki.org/w/To_the_Moon

[woven orchid]

roll -1 hand size twice and you cannot recover

[granite smelt]

yeah to the moon

except it can stack

[dire meadow]

matpat knew he was from another world before we did...

👀

[granite smelt]

I think I should do pseudorandom on the first 2 antes like making it only on hands and discards

[woven orchid]

the upside doesnt outweigh the downside because the downside of losing lots of slots nullifies the ability to put things in those slots

[past lava]

blue -> blue is in the rhythm doctor logo
in conclusion: rhythm doctor reference

[dire meadow]

hythm doctor

hi them doctor

[buoyant kestrel]

blue

[granite smelt]

good point

I wanna hear the thoughts of squeeze deck

[woven orchid]

i think its interesting

my thoughts might be to lessen the upside and give more discards

1 hand i think is reasonable tho

[dire meadow]

1000 discards

0 hands

ujel

[past lava]

dreams -> in rhythm doctor act 6, lucky dreams of his success in his baseball team while recovering after his injury -> rhythm doctor reference

[granite smelt]

we'll see about it when I actually start developing (which is probably gonna be a while from now lmfao)

[buoyant kestrel]

baseball
its some king of Find Her...

[granite smelt]

I'm still working on Celestial Funk extension that will support Cryptid planets

[past lava]

her -> her is used in rhythm doctor -> rhythm doctor reference

[buoyant kestrel]

rhythm

[west hill]

Oh I need to relook at how Malverk works with modded objects

[dire meadow]

r -> rhythm doctor -> rhythm doctor reference

[past lava]

you press things on the beat -> that's called a rhythm game -> rhythm doctor is a rhythm game -> rhythm doctor reference

[buoyant kestrel]

press things
asgore is pressing on the matter of what happened to dess

[toxic cloud]

unfinished wiki 😭
the worst thing here is that my IP is in a blocked range so I can't edit nor create an account

[past lava]

press -> i think you got the point

[buoyant kestrel]

point

[molten laurel]

Hey everyone, I have idea for a joker for which I very much like the name and effect, but I have yet to come up with a respectively cool trigger for it: Tungsten Joker, and the effect would be "destroy all consumables and create an immolate". I was wondering some effects like "when you see a Hermit in shop/booster pack below $20" or "when drawing a card with a 'tungsten' seal (which seal would apply that such card is always at the bottom of the deck)", but I'd love to hear more brainstorming ideas. Here is the sprite I made too

[limber oak]

too specific

[limber oak]

its too specific 😭

[molten laurel]

the effect?

[limber oak]

yeah

i see it more like this:

When a Tarot card is Used; 1 in 3 to create a random Spectral

[limber oak]

this is way more feasible

[molten laurel]

I like my effect, it's like, so heavy, that when it comes it destroys all consumables

and you get an immo on top of it

[limber oak]

yeah but it is very specific

[gilded river]

specific isnt all too bad

it might just impact the description

thats all

[molten laurel]

you say maybe not as a joker effect, since jokers are mostly versatile?

[toxic cloud]

"destroy all consumables and create an Immolate"

but when exactly

[limber oak]

i mean, here's how i did my spectral-based joker

[buoyant kestrel]

i mean that was the point of the original post

my guy was asking for suggestions

[molten laurel]

rarity of joker copmensates for power I suppose

[toxic cloud]

I'm thinking of something like:

when Blind is selected, destroy all held consumables
create an Immolate for every 3 consumables destroyed this way

mm, would make such an anti-synergy with trying to bring consumables into a round

[molten laurel]

that gave me a good idea, thanks

[buoyant kestrel]

framed

[plush hound]

brewing something

[hard plank]

stop

[past lava]

this seems cool

[buoyant kestrel]

i should have posted this at 6:07 am

[alpine cosmos]

oh cool

[silent thistle]

wtf is this?

[vivid seal]

starred the repo

[vivid seal]

mod that makes jokers based on mods without any dependencies

...I think?

i'm not sure if that's modmod or something else

been kinda lost recently but whtv

[silent thistle]

Best clue is the metadata description.

[vivid seal]

yeah

[silent thistle]

add FG reference, play fool's gambit

[vivid seal]

-# lust reference /j

[quartz socket]

Family guy reference

[silent thistle]

?

[winged prism]

Fart Gas

[quartz socket]

FG is Family Guy

[winged prism]

Fall Guys

[silent thistle]

No.

Fool's Gambit.

[quartz socket]

yuG ylimaF is one of my favourite episodes :3

[silent thistle]

god fucking dammit

[quartz socket]

No FG is definitely family guy

[silent thistle]

https://discord.com/channels/1116389027176787968/1333809003829923900

[silent thistle]

If you say so. Not in my book, but whatever.

[civic atlas]

wtf myst on my feed

[silent thistle]

?

[umbral pilot]

hey what mods can I install on joker forge

[woven orchid]

0

[silent thistle]

What do you mean?

[civic atlas]

minecraft

[umbral pilot]

I want to install mods on joker forge

[silent thistle]

Joker Forge, as far as I know, is a tool for making mods, not playing them.

Let me check once again, just in case, though.

[umbral pilot]

I downloaded it

[civic atlas]

jogla oml

😭

[silent thistle]

?

[civic atlas]

actually nevermind itd be funny

[grand geode]

wtf

[civic atlas]

its you

[grand geode]

its me

jane rhythmdoctor

[silent thistle]

Why is Rhythm Doctor everywhere lately?

I mean, I don't really complain. It is one of my favorite games of all time.

[dreamy abyss]

full release was recent apparently

[silent thistle]

But did REALLY the 1.0 release made that big of an impact?

[dreamy abyss]

idk. im not into it for personal reasons

[civic atlas]

yeah the release reminded me of it

[silent thistle]

I expected a surge akin to the release of act 5.

[silent thistle]

fair enough

[civic atlas]

i played before act 5 but didnt play it for a while

so i was surprised w act 5

[silent thistle]

Ah.

Fair enough (2)

[solemn mason]

Does anyone know if I still support Vinny Vinesauce?

The Vinny I knew was evil.

[dreamy abyss]

what

[civic atlas]

evil vinny

[solemn mason]

Evil = pro-AI.

I too was once.

[plush hound]

great progress on balatro goes balatro

[blissful stag]

I use AI to make my sprites

[wanton rapids]

i too am in this modification

[solemn mason]

Unfortunate.

[frigid mica]

Why do you use Al to make art?

Isn’t it much more enjoyable to do it yourself?

[blissful stag]

No

[lavish pike]

I will actually use the hanged man tarot on you if you use ai

[woven crag]

cough cough pinned messages

[grave panther]

#⚙・modding-general message

[civic atlas]

art and fish all int el et gence

[woven crag]

so true ❤️

[lavish pike]

what you said

[blissful stag]

Sigh

Ragebait expectedly failed

[woven crag]

L

[lavish pike]

M

N
O
P

[civic atlas]

A

[frigid mica]

Who cares if you need it done perfectly in record time? Atleast you had fun making and not prompting.

[blissful stag]

Still im kinda mad i lost all my sprites

[civic atlas]

okay

[lavish pike]

you did?

oh...

[blissful stag]

Yeah since i switched phones

[civic atlas]

did you not have it on git

oh

[blissful stag]

I onl have 2x resolutions of them

And i cant go back and edit the files

[lavish pike]

I can downscale them

[blissful stag]

If i downloaded it straight from the atlas

[lavish pike]

aesprite lets me do that easily

[civic atlas]

oh you can just downscale them then

mobile spriting must be actual hell though

[frigid mica]

False

[blissful stag]

Its not the more or so that i cant use them

Its more of uh

Its gonna be hard to adjust them in the future

[frigid mica]

Mobile spriting is pretty easy for me

[blissful stag]

If I think they look odd

[lavish pike]

oh

[blissful stag]

Like this one

The shadows for the plants in the background are muddy

[civic atlas]

oh so just the project files then

[blissful stag]

I mean I could still adjust them by layering on pixels one by one but i dont like doing that in practice

[dire meadow]

thewunkie

[wanton rapids]

this is modmod btw

[vivid seal]

holy scheisse mod mod

[vernal cedar]

Kill!!!!

[frigid mica]

Where’s the forum

[solemn mason]

What does everyone do when left on delivered?

[blissful stag]

What rhe hell is a modmod

[frigid mica]

What

[wanton rapids]

balatro goes balatro

[blissful stag]

So balatro modded with stuff from balatro?

[frigid mica]

Does it feature- nope

[solemn mason]

When text messages are left unread.

[frigid mica]

I kinda just crash out whenever nobody ever responds to me

I hate being lonely

It makes me furious

[solemn mason]

Understandable.

[solemn mason]

There's a Monopoly board game based on the mobile app based on the board game.

[wanton rapids]

jokers based on balatro mods

[solemn mason]

That makes a bit more sense.

[frigid mica]

Will it have a Tangents Joker too

[solemn mason]

^^This is a tangent, right?

[dreamy abyss]

tangents the mod

[solemn mason]

Oh.

[blissful stag]

Please add echoria

Oh wait r the mod creators the ones adding the jokers

[silent thistle]

the fuck

[dire meadow]

new discord feature leak

[solemn mason]

Am I a time traveler?

[past mirage]

Hi, I think I'm having trouble getting the stuff I need for modding Balatro to work?

It keeps telling me to go to a file that I just... can't find?

[storm forum]

?

[solemn mason]

Why is this my shop?

[flat crow]

guys

[solemn mason]

Yes?

[flat crow]

we have new rules

[quartz socket]

Weird

Anti-AI rules 🥹

[wanton rapids]

oh the modding chat changes are starting

[dire meadow]

wait

why didn't this channel

just get changed to

#⚙・modding-off-topic

[leaden vector]

oh no, off topic D:

[dire meadow]

are they stupid

[leaden vector]

possibly

[dire meadow]

THE RAPTURE IS COMING

WE HAVE TO TALK ABOUT

THIS WEIRD THING

CALLED BALATRO MODS

WHAT EVEN IS THAT

[leaden vector]

Tf is a balatro 🙏

[granite smelt]

I doubt this channel would be wiped

[dire meadow]

i was scared there for a minute

for a year

for a century

[plush hound]

when are we unbanning ruby

[quartz socket]

Ruby was banned??

I was wondering why she wasnt in this server…

[flat crow]

well see you guys never

[lime siren]

when modding general gets sacrificed

[versed bison]

no john balatro plus

oh wait

modding off topic...

ok

[dusty token]

i should publish my debug mod, mayne one day

[polar oyster]

update in modding chats??

[hard plank]

what happened while i was gone

[polar oyster]

new chats

[hard plank]

is this just off topic 2 now

awesome

[rapid wren]

rapture 2: only people who play modded balatro are invited

[distant badge]

new year new balatro modding

[wanton rapids]

hi opal

[polar oyster]

in 2027 we will have 10 modding chats

[wanton rapids]

no thats #⚙・modding-off-topic

which probably shouldnt be at the bottom

[hard plank]

ah

ok

[gray crown]

What does it mean in rules a mod's code must be available but not necessarily its assets

If you have one don't you need the other too

[west hill]

I think this rule exists in a sense to stop people from either selling their mods through a service like kofi, or from distributing programs without their source available rather than discussing things that are still in early development

at least I hope that's what it exists for

[gray crown]

Yea i figure that it's meant to keep the modding community in the open source headspace

I'm just confused how you could ever have a situation where distribution of a mod source doesn't necessarily include its assets but does include its code

Lol

[west hill]

yeah that disctinction is a bit odd

[grand geode]

an arg i guess

[dire meadow]

evil doom

[gray crown]

me when i store my assets externally on a server and you have to download them when you run the game (evil)

[dire meadow]

actually no that's just

the doom source code thing

[storm forum]

"Always Online" mod.

[dire meadow]

💔

finally more things to spend my endless internet access on

[desert mirage]

what happened

[latent crescent]

Where are we

Why off-topic is literally hidden from us

Ill not use it then

[fervent owl]

what is the purpose of this channel

[storm forum]

Changes applied according to #⚙・modding-general message, although https://discord.com/channels/1116389027176787968/1456641113506189452 should probably be moved up for sure.

[latent crescent]

Like chat by itself makes sense but not under literally anything and even forums

[fervent owl]

I don't understand why have 2 yapping channels in modding

[latent crescent]

Because intented general for balatro yapping and offtopic for non-balatro yapping

[fervent owl]

normal offtopic doesn't work for that?

[latent crescent]

But if order will stay general became off-topic

[normal hollow]

modders wanted their own off topic

[west hill]

people complain that normal offtopic doesn't have the people they want to talk to in

[fervent owl]

#🃏・off-topic #⚙・modding-off-topic

[latent crescent]

Normal chats doesnt exist, sorry

[fervent owl]

crazy elitism but ok

[normal hollow]

i dont think its elitism to want to talk to a smaller niche of people lmao

[desert mirage]

i genuinely think this is a dumb rule - the way the modding channels were arranged beforehand is fine

if you want to talk to a specific ilk of peopke, go to a dedicated server (e.g. potato hatch)

modding dev and support do literally the same thing

[normal hollow]

i didnt have a problem with this chat being off topic but many people did so the only other alternative was just banning off topic chat

[normal hollow]

false

[civic atlas]

hurrah for further categorization

[desert mirage]

doesnt support involve code help tho

[normal hollow]

no

[desert mirage]

or is it a case of "idk how to install cryprid'

[west hill]

<@&1133519078540185692> can we have some clarity regarding the new rule 6? It seems to suggest that mods that are currently in development and not publicly available are now forbidden to be discussed, which I'm sure is not the case.

[normal hollow]

yes

[civic atlas]

i dont think ill use the new channels except #1456641762591510671 maybe but theyre still nice to have around

[desert mirage]

that can literally just asked in modding gen

why make a new channel for "excuse me how do i install mod desu"

[normal hollow]

because it was drawn out by other conversations

[grave panther]

this rule?
6. Mods must have their source code available to the public to be listed or discussed here. (Other assets, like graphics, do not need to be available.)

[civic atlas]

what kinda question is that 😭

[desert mirage]

whatever if i can advertise my mod more then idrc

[west hill]

yeah that one

[latent crescent]

Support for people like "help i want mp but it crashes", while dev is questions about smods or smth

[fervent owl]

it would just get lost if there are people talking

[civic atlas]

its nice for it to be all in one place

just in general

[grave panther]

Is it more clear if it says:
6. Available mods must have their source code available to the public to be listed or discussed here. (Other assets, like graphics, do not need to be available.)

[latent crescent]

Not agree

[grave panther]

cc @gilded tulip

[latent crescent]

Available prefix looks fine ig

[north salmon]

what does "available" mean, then

[grave panther]

someone who isn't you can play it

[dusty token]

downloadable?

[flat crow]

what if a mod is in development

[west hill]

I think tht helps, I would maybe drop the discussed wording too

[civic atlas]

it just improves convos here in general and its more clear for people where to ask general questions

[latent crescent]

maybe "released" then

[north salmon]

i honestly don't know why rule 6 even has to exist

[civic atlas]

not necessarily released

[grave panther]

this suggests you can have closed source mods in beta which we do not condone

[rapid wren]

I think "Mods available for public download" would cover most bases

[west hill]

why not

[flat crow]

like i dont want to cancel my damn mod just because the source code must be public

[west hill]

What is wrong with having a closed beta that you still want to generate discussion about?

[grave panther]

because we're not going to permit people to distribute closed sourced mods on this server for obvious security reasons

[north salmon]

don't worry we'll point and laugh at anyone who tries to make closed-source balatro mod to the point they'll leave modding chats

[latent crescent]

Hm, makes sense

[west hill]

I think distributing and discussing are vastly different things though

[grave panther]

my man

[west hill]

see https://discord.com/channels/1116389027176787968/1433445606071734374 for example

[grave panther]

would you describe this as "available"

[hot perch]

source code? they realised we're just chatbots? they're on to us help

[grave panther]

i'm not asking sarcastically i want to find the right word

[west hill]

no, but I think the rule still leads to misunderstandings even with the available tagged on

[alpine cosmos]

we were very concerned when the rule propped up

[north salmon]

yeah i think "Mods available for public download" is pretty clear

[west hill]

maybe just "Mods distributed through this server must have their source code publicly available"

[north salmon]

wip? it's not for public download yet, so it doesn't fall into that category

[grave panther]

I mean the verbose version of it is
"Mods distributed or publicly available for distribution to any individual who is not the developer or the member of the developer team must..." but that's a little wordy

[civic atlas]

i mean as long as its clear

[dusty token]

wh not just "Released mods must have their source code available ..."

[alpine cosmos]

ah but what about closed or private playtesting

[north salmon]

not public, not affected by rule

[alpine cosmos]

fair point

[north salmon]

as shrimple as that

[fervent owl]

yeah, maybe calling it elitism is a bit too harsh, I'm not around here too often so I don't know what's going on in normal off topic

just feels kinda weird and confusing to have 2 yapping channels but if that's what people want

[grave panther]

@gilded tulip how do you feel about this incredible wordy version of an otherwise fairly concise rule that arguably provides valuable disambiguation

[dusty token]

if you're using smods you still have to include the source code because of gpl3

[latent crescent]

Treat general chats and modding chats as 2 separate servers basically

[dusty token]

its fine if you dont want to disclose it publicly

[north salmon]

minecraft server that i've been moderating has 6 yapping channels

2 (3, really) is not much

[normal hollow]

i already do

[grave panther]

how many mods do they have jw

and how large is the server

[flat crow]

well because of this "rule 6" i guess im canceling balatro plus

[latent crescent]

Hold the phone, discussion in progress

[dire meadow]

your mod is unlikely to contain the source code of smods

and that's what causes the license infection

[north salmon]

i don't have perms to see members and roles now

[normal hollow]

i love when a mod says "the rule shouldnt be interpreted this way" and people go like "im going to interpret the rule this way"

[dire meadow]

the rule should be reworded 🪱

[normal hollow]

i agree

[dire meadow]

why is there a slow mode in #📜・modding-rules

[wanton rapids]

can we put off topic above the forums

[flat crow]

yes

[dire meadow]

no we fucking hate our communiity

[grave panther]

to make sure you can't not post too quickly

[dire meadow]

in

#📜・modding-rules???

where there should only be one message

[flat crow]

well goodbye balatro plus

[dire meadow]

christ stop being so dramatic

[fervent owl]

funny how my mod that doesn't even depend on smods has smods code to patch stinky deck viewer

[dire meadow]

honestly im not sure where patching lies

like

[long hare]

i cant even talk about my own mod because i dont have a license for it

[normal hollow]

can we change the smods license

[normal hollow]

just add one

[alpine cosmos]

you can just get a license on github

[dire meadow]

i just got the unlicense for my mod

[normal hollow]

its 2 seconds

[alpine cosmos]

yeah add one its quick

GPL3

[dire meadow]

no

the unlicense

spreading misinfomation

[long hare]

unlicense

[north salmon]

https://choosealicense.com/licenses/

[civic atlas]

guys help how do i do chem again

[west hill]

I don''t know anything about doing this but when it was mentioned recently I think the decision was that it was a lot of effort because everything else would need updating or something

[latent crescent]

All my mods doesnt have license am I cooked

[west hill]

let me go digging

[civic atlas]

im so cooked

[long hare]

we should rebel by unlicensing every mod so we cant talk about mods in mods

[dire meadow]

when are we gonna get a joker based off of the "THIS THINGIIE IS PROVIDED "AS IS" WE AREN"T GIVING YOU SHIT!" disclaimer

[north salmon]

unlicense is open-source, you'd be able to talk about mods in mods

[wanton rapids]

having a licence is a good idea irrespective of the rules

[dire meadow]

the unlicense is a license that isn't techincally

it just releases your code to the publiic domain

[west hill]

it'd require getting approval from all 92 contributors or replacing their code

[normal hollow]

ill go hunt them out

[latent crescent]

You better not see what is heppning in offtopic channel right now

[normal hollow]

its my only muted modding channel dont worry

[north salmon]

it's a license that is technically a license

[dire meadow]

its a license that licenses

[north salmon]

only difference is you actively release your product into public domain

to be uncopyrighted

[dire meadow]

🔥

[latent crescent]

On a bright side...
I like #1456641762591510671 addition

[fallow bramble]

Same

[dusty token]

does dp counts as modding resource

[fallow bramble]

I would tbh

[civic atlas]

are libraries counted as modding resources

[normal hollow]

i would

[normal hollow]

i would

[dire meadow]

why would you add something like the library of babel into there smh

[civic atlas]

yeah i guess thatd make sense

there could be a tag for libraries

[normal hollow]

i think smods and amulet should be there

[civic atlas]

whats amulet

[normal hollow]

talisman 2

[west hill]

just needs people to stop it getting filled with inappropriate stuff

[civic atlas]

huh

makes sense

so technical mods go there as well?

[latent crescent]

API mods*

[civic atlas]

tomato tomato

[north salmon]

talisman was so good bad they made talisman 2

[normal hollow]

true!

[fallow bramble]

Go on, compare that number to a table

[west hill]

I suppose I should throw Malverk in there at some point

[latent crescent]

in case you dont mute offtopic yet, consider #⚙・modding-off-topic message

Yk, maybe place on bottom is deserved and we should keep it

And rename it to "modding-chamber"

[dire meadow]

if you chat in it once

[polar oyster]

does this counts as modding resources? (just check or should i remove) https://discord.com/channels/1116389027176787968/1456650127300231240

[dire meadow]

you are locked there

forever

[polar oyster]

modding lock

[normal hollow]

i think it makes sense

[civic atlas]

finally physics my favourite subject

might have to lock in

[latent crescent]

If this is not mossing-resiurces then idk what it can be

Isnt assets like most obvious "modding resource"

[fallow bramble]

modding-toolazytoinstallbmm

[normal hollow]

modding-balatrogoeskinogeneral when

[latent crescent]

modding-comparing-table-with-number

[polar oyster]

modding-fan-art, so fan-art will be useless

[latent crescent]

oh yea

modding-showcase

modding-blunderboard

[fallow bramble]

This isnt potato patch

[polar oyster]

modding-other-games

[normal hollow]

modding-modding

[latent crescent]

modding-no-modding

wait thats off-topic

[polar oyster]

so mods about other game (like isaac)

[civic atlas]

modding-slay-the-spire-discussion

[polar oyster]

wait modding-suggestions actually idea

[normal hollow]

what the hell

[fallow bramble]

Its a channel in the modding forums actually

[tulip dust]

hi people i wanted to make some sprites for a mod but idk where to get the "JOKER" text in the left and right corner of the sprite where do u guys find that

🤔

[fallow bramble]

#⚙・modding-support

[normal hollow]

its hand drawn afaik

[civic atlas]

#1456641762591510671

[tulip dust]

thx

[civic atlas]

specifically https://discord.com/channels/1116389027176787968/1456650127300231240

[polar oyster]

idea: modding-guide-how-make-jokers-or-install-steammodded

[dusty token]

actually

[grand geode]

@full compass you should repost your guide to #1456641762591510671 👀

[normal hollow]

smods pool

[dusty token]

install instructions on modding resources is probably a good idea

[civic atlas]

LMAO

[grand geode]

smods pool

[latent crescent]

smods pool

[civic atlas]

SMODS.pool

[woven orchid]

SMODS.pool

[grave panther]

pool's closed

[woven orchid]

wtf.....

[latent crescent]

damnit

[civic atlas]

wtf

[polar oyster]

maybe should be guide in modding resources

guide how install steammoded

[rapid wren]

Idea: find an abandoned water park, claim one of the attractions as our own, rename it to SMODS.pool

[grave panther]

oh my god this meme is 20 years old

[latent crescent]

in modding-resources most likely should be resources thish is useful for both player and developer

[civic atlas]

SMODS theme park

[normal hollow]

anyway joyousspring update

[rapid wren]

we should open Disney World but for Balatro Mods

[fallow bramble]

I want to play JS again

[polar oyster]

d

[latent crescent]

j

[polar oyster]

you should play

[rapid wren]

the Cryptid ride instantly kills you

[polar oyster]

modding-cryptid

jolly idea

[civic atlas]

i sure love modding

[normal hollow]

i also made a pack for amber acorn counters

the most difficult blind

[polar oyster]

where The plant counter

[normal hollow]

that one is easy

[latent crescent]

insert no counter/press r joke here

[polar oyster]

Canio is good counter to plant

[fallow bramble]

Are those themed packs about balatro content synergies? Also is there a pack of yugioh sets too i forgor

[normal hollow]

theyre themed on the different mechanics and strategies from the mod

there is the general monster/extra deck packs but this one is supposed to be more specific

[west hill]

oh N I was thinking, would items having their own weights work for your jokers that you've tagged as rare to make them less likely to show up initially?

[civic atlas]

might be irrrelevant but now that i think of it a modding-channel-guide channel could be helpful

[polar oyster]

modding-help?

wait no

[civic atlas]

too ambiguous

[normal hollow]

if you mean giving them lower weight but make them common I think that would be unintuitive
also a lot for me to figure out the correct ratios for the 500 jokers i have lol

[normal hollow]

i think that could be in rules

[civic atlas]

oh true actually

[normal hollow]

or in the channel descriptions

but nobody reads those i guess

[west hill]

take the announcement and put it in the rules channel

[fallow bramble]

Oh there's still no kind specific boosters

[normal hollow]

these are it, the first version was one booster per archetype buit that was too broken

so now its 2/3 archetypes per booster

it's not finished tho

[civic atlas]

why is physics so hard

[keen knoll]

oh god why are the channels different

[grave panther]

i dropped them and tried to put them back together but i didn't do a great job and the pieces didn't fit

modding channel kintsugi

[keen knoll]

damnit pearl

[civic atlas]

help me im gonna die

[normal hollow]

not to be that guy but they just made #⚙・modding-off-topic 😭

[civic atlas]

yeah but im bored

[vivid seal]

this is a golden reply

[keen knoll]

why is it so far away

[vivid seal]

oh the placement SUCKS

[civic atlas]

exactly

[vivid seal]

i would appreciate it more if the modding forum was at the bottom because i tend to follow a LOT of mod threads

[normal hollow]

its weird that discord never introduced the ability to move them

[drowsy parrot]

they kinda did

you can favorite channels but im only aware you can do it on mobile

[vivid seal]

you can *technically* favourite them but that doesn't fully solve the issue i think

[vivid seal]

pc can do it too

[normal hollow]

you can on desktop

[drowsy parrot]

noted

[civic atlas]

how the fuck you favouritr channels

[civic atlas]

what does favouriting do

[drowsy parrot]

why dont you try it

[civic atlas]

aw dang

[winged prism]

Favoriting is still inconcvenient af

[winged prism]

Honestly just mute everything except modding and community

Community only for #🎨・fan-art ofc

[civic atlas]

fuck just made the most embarrasing mistake of my life

4 volts div 40 ohms equals point 4 amperes great job

[normal hollow]

i love currents

[civic atlas]

alright one more physics paper and then english and then im done for the day

its 11:40 pm im so tired

[stark hare]

guys here’s my new original mod idea

what if

tarot cards were DIFFERENT

🤯

[scarlet swan]

how different 🫣

[polar oyster]

tarot cards but evil?????

[civic atlas]

physics are done

i killed it

[thorny dust]

oh wos they added modding support

finally peace at last

[fallow bramble]

I'm so good at joyousspringing

[mint flame]

i have a dumb idea for a joker
my only question is how i'd adapt Wordle into a joekr

like
any aspect, no matter how dilute

[stark hare]

first letter of every jokers name

if it lines up with the wordle

Have some effect

like something for greys, yellows and greens

[mint flame]

hmmm
then i'd have to link it to today's wordle somehow

[stark hare]

haha then idk

or just make your own pool of words and it picks one

[mint flame]

for the record
i'm pinning it all on this wordle gijinka i made
she's called Wanda

[tulip dust]

the impostor

[mint flame]

hell nah it's gonna stab the joker to the right

[tulip dust]

✅

[wanton rapids]

smods https

[mint flame]

oke oke
is there a website that gives you today's wordle?

like
in plaintext?
i think the wordle help page does at least

[wanton rapids]

check what the password game does

[mint flame]

the password game?

[woven orchid]

um

[civic atlas]

fucking liar??

[woven orchid]

if it helps i could give you the http request that it makes to get todays wordle

not in the right form for smods https but

await fetch("https://www.nytimes.com/svc/wordle/v2/2026-01-02.json", {
    "credentials": "include",
    "headers": {
        im not putting this here this is for you to get
    },
    "referrer": "https://www.nytimes.com/games/wordle/index.html",
    "method": "GET",
    "mode": "cors"
});
``` is the javascript fetch for it

you'd also need to just replace the date in the link

[mint flame]

might need to add some offline functionality for the joker
if there's no internet then there's no webpage to pull from

[wide mulch]

you already know how it do

[mint flame]

and i gotta figure out when to pull the word
ideally, it should pull on load right

[stark hare]

upgraded versions of Hiker

[hardy brook]

Oh we finally got a modding support tab

[coarse rune]

is uhhh promoting your own mod allowed

[vivid seal]

👀

i heart hiker

[normal hollow]

yes

[coarse rune]

are you sure tho

[normal hollow]

yes

play joyousspring

[coarse rune]

i see

[vivid seal]

play entropy while you're at it

[coarse rune]

it was alright tbh

[dull field]

I’m thinking of making a voucher where cards that get spawned by effects will attempt to copy the edition of whatever spawned them, if possible. So a foil Marble Joker would create foil stone cards. Effects with a hardcoded edition like Perkeo wouldn’t change, and negative spawning effects would still require room (like a Negative Cartomancer wouldn’t spawn negative tarots unless there was already room). How on earth do I make a description for that though?

[granite forum]

This is a big day for modding

[granite forum]

i feel like this is just how it should work

no voucher

that would be a great mod

[coarse rune]

so uhh i made a mod that adds your mods configs to the option menu, its called mod menu in options, you should try it out, i like it but idk abt yall
https://discord.com/channels/1116389027176787968/1455447680095490088

[dull field]

it would. But I’ve got a ton of ideas that I’d rather put into one larger mod. Maybe I’ll make a standalone for that eventually. If not, I’ll create a deck that starts with that voucher redeemed and maybe some wheel of fortunes

[stark hare]

polychrome dna makes all cloned cards polychrome

that would be sick

i like thay idea

[ornate bone]

peak mod.

[normal hollow]

i agree

[ornate bone]

Though I do wish the card that came with copies of Yu-Gi-Oh! The Movie was in the mod in some compacity.

(look i forgot the name of the card. it's been a hot minute and a half.)

[normal hollow]

pyramid of light?

[lean dune]

ayo new and improved modding category

common balacord team W

[stark hare]

upgraded Misprints

whoops the rare one copies EVERY played card gotta fix that lol

[ornate bone]

Oh yeah. that thing.

[normal hollow]

yeah there are no normal traps in the mod

but i could maybe add it as a boss blind next update

[ornate bone]

👀

[north crater]

joker idea : American Joker

Converts Mult to it's equivalent value in miles

[neon urchin]

[stark hare]

Upgraded photographs

[neon urchin]

more people could have rabies if we made spreading rabies a mandatory law

[ornate bone]

I'm not getting rabies.

[idle iris]

but you definitely could

[gentle citrus]

No go away not happening this year

[granite forum]

<@&1133519078540185692>

oh

[grave panther]

oh yeah

[granite forum]

🔫

[gentle citrus]

And that isn't a mr beast profile picutre.

talk about fake

[granite forum]

Dr breast

midder beest

[grave panther]

isnt mebeats a headphone company

[granite forum]

idk

mebeats

dr breast

midder beest

man of many names

[fathom gust]

oh what the

[stark hare]

upgraded baseball card

[neon urchin]

if i was a joker and PSA 10 was on the team, i would give x2.5 mult too

[polar oyster]

omg d&dg reference

[stark hare]

what should legendary photograph do

[polar oyster]

first played face card gives X10 mult /j

hmm

[neon urchin]

first played card effect applies to every other card played after it

in the hand

/j

/s

/p

[stark hare]

mayhaps 🤔

[polar oyster]

triboulet card too similar with photograph card

[stark hare]

do i nerf this i feel like i should

[polar oyster]

First playing card gives X2 mult, +X0.5 for each retriggers

so X2 X2.5 X3 X3.5 ...

maybe keep face cards

[polar oyster]

too many text, maybe you should use multibox?

[stark hare]

i think my legendary hiker is my favorite upgraded one so far

[outer rock]

is the BMM repo back up yet

[fallow bramble]

How do you upgrade a card?

[stark hare]

you find them in the shop

but im gonna add a consumeable to upgrade a rare to a legendary

[neon urchin]

can i downgrade it

[outer rock]

I like the idea of an upgraded card not just being bought but being like earned with the lower grade of the card

[neon urchin]

i like it too

[outer rock]

?

like do the mods appear when searching online

[normal hollow]

was it down

[outer rock]

yesterday yeah

I take it that means it's up now?

[normal hollow]

idk i dont use bmm

[neon urchin]

whats bmm. is it like a brand

[normal hollow]

bawatro mod manager

[neon urchin]

oh'

bawatro mod manager

[stark hare]

ok i should make the hanging chad upgrades now

time to add MORE hanging chads

[fallow bramble]

You should try JokerEvolution

[outer rock]

okau

[stark hare]

if you collect all 5 hanging chads you get your chad exodia

[neon urchin]

they unhanged the chad

[stark hare]

the way im doing upgrades is like

depending on the joker

every upgrade adds another effect

or just upgrades the initial one

[neon urchin]

how many chads do u have

[stark hare]

5

[neon urchin]

wow!

[neon urchin]

[mint spindle]

cart

[quaint sparrow]

last one sounds op

[mint flame]

need an idea for what a joker called Inverse Mathematics would look like

[haughty gyro]

bala tro

[haughty gyro]

what would such a joker even do

[mint flame]

effect is right here

it's some shenanigans with my modded consumable type

[full compass]

Oh shoot you right

[haughty gyro]

this raises more questions

[full compass]

honestly i’ll probably add more tips

[haughty gyro]

what is a calculator key

[woven orchid]

m6x11 for coding is a little questionable but i wont knock it

at the same time i will not be trying it which thankfully i do not have to do as i am not knocking it

[mint flame]

yeaaa it's kinda bad of me to use a non-monospace font but it's for the balala vibes /silly

[woven orchid]

truthing

i stay in the gamer mindset by using a monospaced version of the minecraft font

[mint flame]

take it away, richard

[woven orchid]

oh my fucking god

hop on calculator twin ✌️

[vague beacon]

Calcewlatoor

[quaint sparrow]

how could I buff this joker

feels like it sucks

[haughty gyro]

holy amazing world of gumball

[narrow lily]

easy answer is give more chips

[woven orchid]

15 chips for each seperate modifier in full deck?

[narrow lily]

or make it also count like stamps and stuff

[woven orchid]

i.e. 2 stone cards both with foil editions would be 60 chips since 2x stone and 2x foil

might swing it a bit too far the other way but shrug

[quaint sparrow]

its not the combination

it checks editions and enhancements individually

[woven orchid]

yeah i mean like

1 modifier in deck no matter what = 15 more chips for the joker

4 stone cards with no edition or 2 polychrome lucky cards would give the same buff

[quaint sparrow]

the goal is forcing the player to have a lot of different upgrades

[woven orchid]

ah

[quaint sparrow]

Im adding the seals rn

[woven orchid]

then my other idea could be chips for each unique combo of edition and enhancement, but give much more chips each?

idk i think its pretty solid other than the chip value

[quaint sparrow]

thats... hard to track...

[wanton rapids]

so like

foil bonus, uneditioned bonus, foil mult