(enemy team was terrible too)
#🃏・off-topic
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civic niche
Magicraft
i am missing so many games already
when i look for some new i cant find almost any
sullen portal
it's not a puzzle game by any means but deep rock galactic: survivor is a lot of fun
civic niche
lot of orbiting.
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guys do you like my banner?
civic niche
another ORBiting build
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@pulsar basalt give me suggestions for better banner. rammarta is good but i want something that slaps ass
pulsar basalt
i have no idea about that kind of stuff
civic niche
laser also cool but i think it deosnt work well
onyx turtle
You poor soul
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You poor soul
thank you for your remorse. but what is a soul
onyx turtle
Spoken like a true overwatch player
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Spoken like a true overwatch player
at least i don't play sweat char... i play ana i forgot
onyx turtle
Every day I thank god he never made me an overwatch player.
civic niche
F..., troll face
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Every day I thank god he never made me an overwatch player.
you should thank more my brother... i am addicted and need help. i am getting worse in the game and my aggression is getting back to the days when i was 12 and lived completely alone
onyx turtle
Although I play destiny 2, so I can’t really thank god for letting me dodge a bullet
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oh damn you dodged bullet but dodged into another
onyx turtle
Dear god
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WHAT TF IS THE FIRST ONE
THE 3RD ONE?
DUDE YOU HAVE MORE HOURS IN THE 3RD ONE THEN I HAVE IN MY TOP 3 TOGETHER
onyx turtle
Addiction is a serious problem.
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i can fix you 
onyx turtle
My GeForce now subscription ending is what will fix me.
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712 hours????
LOOK UP YOU BLIND ASS HE HAS 2700 H ON DESTINY 2
THAT IS 112 DAYS
ONE THIRD OF A YEAR
still kite
I refuse to learn how to read so nothing you say can say my opinion
onyx turtle
Can you tell destiny 2 is my favorite game? I hate it and don’t recommend it to anyone.
Wait that’s only 112 days
Uh oh
Here’s an even scarier statistic. I’ve spend 20 of those days in one raid. And the average time it takes to complete that raid for me is an hour.
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ew
onyx turtle
Yes
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what are you doing with your life
onyx turtle
Yes
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destiny 2 with 2700 hours and on dell laptop
civic niche
those 2 are almost perfect opposite...
onyx turtle
destiny 2 with 2700 hours and on dell laptop
GeForce now makes it nice and smooth
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is this a paid ad?
civic niche
F..., troll face
i was wondering where i have seen that
it was in video 9 monts ago of this game when it was in very early beta
it has the same troll face 🤣
civic niche
@leaden jetty
i think its possible to go past troll face
i hit him long enough that he turned into gigachad and blasted me with projectiles AF
get a slow down time potion and maybe its doable
maybe i have a strategy 👀
civic niche
||chadface doesnt even take damage FR its impossible...||
civic niche
i am so close in finding a way how to get past troll face, i got perfect potion but room rng screved me over. (||i had potion that unlocks everything in a room, but the troll face room that time, didnt had any locked doors 😂 ||)
@leaden jetty ima give you a tip
dont ever run wand that casts in reverse
when you hit snakes, they get knocked back towards YOU insanely fast. i died...
civic niche
yo
i cant move/cast and im invincible
but pets work
now if the troll face is actually killable
i somehow breaked throught the stone. bruuh.
civic niche
so i got rid of troll face
doors opened
and there was another troll face room.
💀
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I HATE OW2 SO MUCH OH MY GOD
civic cosmos
you and everyone else who plays ow2
gusty marlin
and even some who dont
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you and everyone else who plays ow2
what do you think (i wasn't even MVP zarya was)
civic niche
@leaden jetty LONESTAR demo (game)
cedar basin
Does your hand not get tired from all the waving @fiery grotto
pulsar basalt
lol
tall topaz
no memes in general i guess
Did someone really get banned because of a 5 minute discussion in game channel? 😭
still kite
no memes in general i guess
wait where did our conversation go
did they actually delete messages lmao
tall topaz
😭 i cant lmao
pulsar basalt
no the person who got banned swore as their first word on the server
tall topaz
oh fair point
Idk who asked because i cant access the message
But yes iam Czech
Also Alpha beta etcetera is greek, not latin i think
pulsar basalt
correct
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damn i am dumb
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But yes iam Czech
but my math teacher told us the first time when we spoke about greek letters
tall topaz
Youre also Czech?
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yes
pulsar basalt
wasn't there someone else who also said they were czech
tall topaz
i have no idea if our teacher told us, i skipped so much school that i wasnt there more than i was
pulsar basalt
there's a lot of active czechs here. very cool
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but i think he got depressed bcs he got void as his pfp
tall topaz
considering how small country this is
tall topaz
but we are also dumb and stuff
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and chess too
pulsar basalt
but i think he got depressed bcs he got void as his pfp
there is also a rather high number of people with invisible pfps active 🤔
that or my internet is really, really bad
but it's always the same people so...
tall topaz
Idk how to feel about the high czech concentration info 💀
pulsar basalt
lmao
tall topaz
Cause most czech people are pretty damn racist and bigoted
pulsar basalt
oof
sullen portal
Someone ship me some becherovka, thanks
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Cause most czech people are pretty damn racist and bigoted
you forgot the fact that we also are racists with friends in fun playful way
and nazi
tall topaz
im not sure if that is fine lmao
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Someone ship me some becherovka, thanks
i am pretty sure that is german
or wait is it?
sullen portal
i am pretty sure that is german
I only ever had it in Prague
tall topaz
It is czech
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oh wait jeager is german
sorry i don't drink a lot of alcohol and when i do its mostly wine and vodka
tall topaz
you forgot the fact that we also are racists with friends in fun playful way
Like i really dont think that is fine? Even if your friend is fine with that, it is still pushing hurtful stereotypes and they are most likely only fine with it because they know you, but it is still propably not exactly ok?
still kite
Cause most czech people are pretty damn racist and bigoted
idk man sounds pretty racist towards czech people
sullen portal
Wait tonsek didn’t you say you’re 15? How is your account 3 years old
tall topaz
Iam czech, its like the n word
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idk man sounds pretty racist towards czech people
xenophobic not racist
sullen portal
Age for discord is 15+ for Czech
still kite
xenophobic not racist
you right, you right
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Age for discord is 15+ for Czech
nope
tall topaz
its 13 and noone cares
tall topaz
xenophobic not racist
Im czech 😭
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Im czech 😭
ik
tall topaz
so cant be xenophobic
still kite
it was a joke lmao
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FROM WHAT TIME IS AGE RESTRICTION 15 FOR CZECHS ON DS?
pulsar basalt
lol
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damn i was doing illegal thingies
pulsar basalt
eh, who knows how long it's been like that
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i was under the impression it was 13+
tall topaz
i think that cry is right
still kite
Iam pretty sure that it is 13?
Vonnegut posted a discord page
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Iam pretty sure that it is 13?
still kite
it is 15+
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welp i am not using it illegally now
tall topaz
what is the general age group here btwW?
pulsar basalt
im 26
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a lot teenagers here but a lot of like 24+ people
red galleon
i recommend not posting your age online, especially if you're a minor
tall topaz
fair enough
pulsar basalt
im not 26
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lmao
lethal python
this should fix it right?
What you need to do is just post 5 different ages and they’ll never know
pulsar basalt
oh, that's genius
lethal python
Or just delete the message if you care, I guess
pulsar basalt
everyone here knows 1/5 odds are actually 0%
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everyone here knows 1/5 odds are actually 0%
you are making me geniuenly sad by saying this
pulsar basalt
lol
tall topaz
i know
pulsar basalt
tall topaz
believe me i know
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we both know Ava
lethal python
The real math nerds know that 1/5 is either 3% or 80% when used in games
lethal python
Never played an xcom game actually, but I know that the odds are never right
tall topaz
again, clearly theoretically 1/5 is 0
still kite
i recommend not posting your age online, especially if you're a minor
jokes on you i am secrertly four years old
lethal python
jokes on you i am secrertly four years old
I am an eloquent -5 month old child
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i am 15 and 3 months right on dot
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HOW IS IT 5 AM
tall topaz
Yee
worthy oasis
fiery grotto
Does your hand not get tired from all the waving <@1061417842752368680>
nah
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i am again at endorsment 2
terse basalt
@fiery grottoSpeaking of peglin
I got the cheese guard combo twice
fiery grotto
nicee
fiery grotto
do you watch Aliensrock?
terse basalt
no
fiery grotto
he has played like 50 peglin videos and he played balatro 2 times
terse basalt
I got over the integer limit in 0.2 seconds
fiery grotto
LOL
terse basalt
I got over the integer limit in 0.2 seconds
and it became negative
it doesn't matter
fiery grotto
yeah
terse basalt
because the enemies died before the peg even finished
fiery grotto
he has played like 50 peglin videos and he played balatro 2 times
not an ad
terse basalt
The other time I had a squirrel still bouncing on the pegboard while Peglin is already attacking
fiery grotto
also aliensrock is gonna play the game probably like 10 more times after full release
fiery grotto
The other time I had a squirrel still bouncing on the pegboard while Peglin is a...
LOL
fiery grotto
Peglin be wild some times
terse basalt
Once I used Cheat Engine to hack the memory
And I found out
your HP is actually decimal
not actually stored as an integer
fiery grotto
huh
terse basalt
It just shows the rounded values
terse basalt
huh
However the pegboard damage value IS an integer
which I can confirm by seeing it rolled over to negatives
terse basalt
Imagine your current damage being "Infinity" or "NaN"
@fiery grottoDoes demon wall kill you if you have round guard?
fiery grotto
demon wall?
terse basalt
a castle boss
fiery grotto
you mean act 2 boss
terse basalt
yeah
fiery grotto
I believe so
terse basalt
Another unrelated thing is there's literally a relic called Alien's rock
terse basalt
I think Minecraft once named the Etho Slab in an april fools version after EthosLab
fiery grotto
also peglin created a platform game in demo with an egg thatt cant fall to far or dies
and has a high jump
terse basalt
also peglin created a platform game in demo with an egg thatt cant fall to far o...
hmm
fowl damage?
fiery grotto
yeah
terse basalt
Just seen it on the steam page
I've played for 13.6h
and here are the achievements I got
fiery grotto
nice
terse basalt
I never knew how to properly stack ballwark though
fiery grotto
its hard
fiery grotto
huh
terse basalt
This as the money maker
fiery grotto
whats the orb look like
fiery grotto
whats the orb look like
spinterest payment
terse basalt
spinterest
fiery grotto
nice
terse basalt
The first time I saw red bombs
I didn't know they damage yourself
so I just spammed them
and it didn't end so well
fiery grotto
LOL
sacred radish
I assume yall like deckbuilders. found one here. https://scratch.mit.edu/projects/228016745
some people make the coolest stuff in scratch
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i didn't sleep again
dude my right side of brain is starting to hurt
i will need to go to doctor
it feels like dying
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i have same thing and feeling
i feel very sharp pain throughout like right front quarter of my brain
not skull brain
civic niche
i feel pressure inside my brain mainly in upper fron lobe, i feel that for over 5 years, its static, it wont go away, sometimes its worse pain
civic niche
i wem to check already
i had only ekg done
doctor sayd that there is nothing wrong on ekg so she wont send me on mri or ct cuz 3 YEARS BEFORE IT WAS FINE BUT INTERRUPTED NOT FULLY DONE...
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damn
civic niche
ffs...
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i feel like i am getting bitten right into the nerves on brain
civic niche
the nurologist doctor want to get a psychologist report first and than she decides what to do next. like hell i have some problems but what if i have also a cancer bruh. she'll just says nah its just psychical...
also i came up with funny way to spell "coke"
cook-eye-in
🤣
civic niche
can i dm u ?
atomic arrow
I assume yall like deckbuilders. found one here. https://scratch.mit.edu/project...
Cool
sacred radish
I assume yall like deckbuilders. found one here. https://scratch.mit.edu/project...
I wonder if Apfellord would let the Balatro devs add a Lunara joker if they asked nicely
adding onto that, I wonder what a "Frost" enhancement would do
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i got banned for 14 days in OW2
probably deserved on my side
but to be honest the sombra only went after me after i said i had very bad day
tall topaz
anyone seen TWD?
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what mod deleted the part where i explained why i got banned? now it looks like i just got banned for nothing
nimble whale
what mod deleted the part where i explained why i got banned? now it looks like ...
getting banned for nothing is better than telling others mean things
gentle sky
some peaple need to learn zen
sullen portal
a monk is visiting New York City and walks up to a hot dog vendor. The vendor asks “what can I get you?” The monk replies “make me one with everything”
The vendor makes the hot dog and gives it to the monk and the monk pays with a $100 bill. The monk says “hang on a sec, where’s my change.” The vendor replies “change comes from within.”
rough marsh
lmao
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some peaple need to learn zen
yeah i hate zenyatta players don't heal
gentle sky
I was talking about you, dont care about anyone doing anything
cedar basin
@terse basalt in your bio 😭
terse basalt
<@883987539961192508> in your bio 😭
It's this for me
cedar basin
what in the world 💀 what timezone are you in?
rough marsh
reskin of a card from normal deck, guess what it is
gentle sky
hakurei deck?
rough marsh
hakurei deck?
dont know whos that so i say no
rough marsh
lol, well thares that only one card with the ying and yang symbol so yeah...
ashen granite
you could call that… a spell card
rough marsh
thoughts on this?
jovial steeple
I assume yall like deckbuilders. found one here. https://scratch.mit.edu/project...
this is just slay the spire
sacred radish
I'd say that it has enough originality and different-enough mechanics to stand out!
Plus it was made in Scratch. Have you ever used Scratch? This is impressive for the engine.
I overall think Monster World is worth playing even if you already have STS.
it's short, sweet, and different-enough.
jovial steeple
There were some mechanics, but you can clearly tell it was directly inspired to the point of copying. Not trying to dog the developer or anyone's love for it. I wonder how it would have came out if the developer spun it a little more their way is all.
rough marsh
There were some mechanics, but you can clearly tell it was directly inspired to ...
i mean....
jovial steeple
I mean whats the line between inspiration and directly copying?
sterile coyote
reskin of a card from normal deck, guess what it is
Ace?
sterile coyote
thoughts on this?
I was right!
rough marsh
ye
sterile coyote
Pretty cool designs tho
hidden notch
I don't think they are stored somewhere accessible to users in like a folder somwhere
atomic arrow
I think implementing an existing game in a different platform (or the same platform) is a good way of learning
sterile coyote
I don't think they are stored somewhere accessible to users in like a folder som...
RIP, I’m trying to create a realistic deck and was hoping there was an easy way that I could get all the card textures and then substitute my realistic pack in for the default pack
spare sierra
balatro.wiki is your best bet probably
sterile coyote
Yeah, that works for getting the textures, but not implementing my modified textures back into the game
hidden notch
Yeah, that works for getting the textures, but not implementing my modified text...
tbh, considering your modified textures are considerably higher res than the originals I don't think you would be able to do a simple swap anyway. Typically you would need to fit new textures into the same size as the originals if you were just swapping 1 for 1 with no modifications
sterile coyote
ah ok
pliant flame
https://youtu.be/-MscqWwPcrg?si=Uh5thl-m6oXNany3
fiery grotto
can you delete 1 of the links
fiery grotto
you good
tall topaz
Definitely watch it tho
sour thorn
There were some mechanics, but you can clearly tell it was directly inspired to ...
yea scratch is hard to work in
ive had to rewrite my balatro copy fangame's mechanics like 9 times to make them work at some points
sour thorn
yea
pulsar basalt
when you beat microsoft solitaire:
hot thorn
reskin of a card from normal deck, guess what it is
custom deck skins sounds like a baller idea tbh
rough marsh
who?
leaden jetty
If anyone wants to check out a fun synergy-combo score attack game I highly recommend Ballionaire https://newobject.itch.io/ballionaire
You can check out some gameplay here https://youtu.be/6NECQpFHWLk
rough marsh
that is intresting! i will give it a play tonmorow
fiery grotto
missed the answer on my homework by 0.1
I got 6/7 answers correct so now I gotta answer 3 more cause failed the last one by 0.1
Ok I finished
rough marsh
rough marsh
question, mostly to mods, does this count as spam?
🟦⬛🟦🟩🟩🟩🟨🟨🟨🟥⬛🟥
🟦🟦🟦🟩⬛⬛🟨⬛🟨🟥⬛🟥
🟦⬛🟦🟩🟩🟩🟨⬛🟨🟥⬛🟥
🟦⬛🟦🟩⬛⬛🟨⬛🟨🟥🟥🟥
🟦⬛🟦🟩🟩🟩🟨🟨🟨🟥⬛🟥
nimble whale
depends on how often you send it
rough marsh
just once maybe a day or two
leaden jetty
just once maybe a day or two
@civic niche sending it entirely out of context/not contributong to anything else will also probably contribute to it being seen as spam
rough marsh
alrighty
jovial steeple
so what you're saying is I must request newcat07 to do the "meow" thing every couple days?
civic niche
<@715836149352104056> sending it entirely out of context/not contributong to any...
what
rough marsh
so what you're saying is I must request newcat07 to do the "meow" thing every co...
:3
pulsar basalt
lol
tall topaz
I just ordered collectors edition of Isaac 4 souls for 150$
And I'm questioning my financial decisions
rough marsh
issac 4 souls is a great game, i just cant play it cuz brokr and dont have anyone that likes it 3:
tall topaz
Never played it yet
But can wait
although 150dollars is so much 😭
But its collectors edition so
rough marsh
i may try to make tetris roguelike
tacit moon
I just ordered collectors edition of Isaac 4 souls for 150$
its worth i ordered it on launch and its incredible, almost too much game
still kite
i may try to make tetris roguelike
i would play the shit out of this
tall topaz
i may try to make tetris roguelike
HELL YE
tall topaz
its worth i ordered it on launch and its incredible, almost too much game
The ultimate edition ?
rough marsh
and yes, i can take some ideas for roguetris
tacit moon
whatever the one in the big ass box is
tall topaz
Iam way too addicted to tetris lmao
rough marsh
(yes, already got the name)
tall topaz
tacit moon
top left
tacit moon
its phenomenal
rough marsh
i really wanna play 4 souls, ngl
tacit moon
i recommend when yuo play dont try and take all of the cards out of the box just use 60-100 of each deck at a time
because there are like 1000 of each deck
tall topaz
oh i will not listen to that lol
tacit moon
you should it will save u lots of time
i mean feel free to pick the box apart and look at all the cards
i mean specifically when playing
tall topaz
Oh i wont
lmao
Bang with all expansions taught me better than not playing with all cards
tacit moon
¯_(ツ)_/¯
tall topaz
I dont want to save time, i want to play one game for hours lmao
tacit moon
if you have 4 players the game takes several hours
so it should be right up your alley
rough marsh
depends how well players play
pro players take 30 minutes average no matter how big of deck they playing...
rough marsh
with i could play
rough marsh
now that i realized... we made five of a flush WORSE THAN FIVE OF A KIND
well... atleast worse on this sheet
how did this happen
fiery grotto
LOL
pulsar basalt
why's the bottom two so low mult
rough marsh
i am wondering the same thing, where did i fucked up before sending score sheet to someone so they made this image
i wanna scream and cry from embarrasment
still kite
i think you forgot a 0 at the end
tall topaz
well... atleast worse on this sheet
also flush above 4 of a kind/full house?
junior raven
What rank is @spare sierra in rocket league?
spare sierra
What rank is <@1116386306788970587> in rocket league?
I've been hard stuck champ 2 - champ 3 for like 2 years lol
Love that game though
fiery grotto
me in plat, in rumble, and gold in actual 1v1
civic niche
well... atleast worse on this sheet
what is this
rough marsh
what is this
the thing for balatro but dices
civic niche
is that new game ?
rough marsh
i am trying to do? yes
civic niche
i have so many game ideas, its overwhelming
rough marsh
i had like 20 roguelike ideas
charred kelp
rocket league is great Plat 1/2/3/Dia 1 depending on game mode
junior raven
I've been hard stuck champ 2 - champ 3 for like 2 years lol
Are you… me? 😆 I’m hard stuck Champ for life. The wife and I are loving Balatro, but we’re also rocket league mains ❤️
civic niche
are there any deckbuilding roguelikes ? for mobile
ashen granite
are there any deckbuilding roguelikes ? for mobile
Slay the Spire, Luck be a Landlord
civic niche
damn you google
ashen granite
maybe your phone is too old?
civic niche
i have samsung a53
one of best samsungs A models from last year fr
there are so many good games i foud but they are just not on phone...
i wont have computer awailable to me for 2 days...
i really like lonestar
civic niche
i am sooo bored
civic niche
i got soo bored i fell asleep for 2 hours 💀
fiery grotto
LOL
pulsar basalt
are you cured
civic niche
WHAT
civic niche
are you cured
wdym
pulsar basalt
cured of boredom
civic niche
youtube shorts are second tiktok, change my mind
abstract violet
Can anyone tell me what the hell this means, i mean I understand what directX vulkan openGL etc is
But like something here don’t match up
What do i click lmao
fiery grotto
idk
abstract violet
DirectX 12 the new hit AAA game
cosmic bobcat
I am here
terse basalt
--CHEAT ENGINE DISCUSSION CONTINUES--
@fiery grotto Confirmed, game does hang if you run out of jokers
cosmic bobcat
Jesus
cosmic bobcat
Guess I’m going to be modifying my in game money lmao
fiery grotto
multi blueprint now
cosmic bobcat
Find the spawn rate in the code lol
past matrix
0001H how tf do i use floats/doubles
terse basalt
0001H how tf do i use floats/doubles
past matrix
i found the values with brute force but i don't know how to change them to an integer
terse basalt
i found the values with brute force but i don't know how to change them to an in...
ya can't change the type
not possible
past matrix
oh im stupi
cosmic bobcat
Me too 😢
past matrix
got it
cosmic bobcat
What are you modifying?
Imagine making a all face card deck with five face card multipliers
past matrix
oops
cosmic bobcat
This game gonna be more popular than inscryption
past matrix
accidentally scanned the entirety of balatro for the value 0
cosmic bobcat
Oh god
Ten years later
999,999,999,999
Values found
I accidentally searched tboi for 2 once
past matrix
ouch
spare sierra
Hey everyone make sure not to discuss/share exploits here - #📜・rules, falls under rule 7
past matrix
oh rip
placid rampartBOT
00001h has been warned
past matrix
lmao
spare sierra
What is MEE6 doing
terse basalt
Is it technically a e* though
terse basalt
What is MEE6 doing
filter: e***...
past matrix
exploit?
terse basalt
why can you say it fine
placid rampartBOT
dapifanatic has been warned
past matrix
lmfao
fiery grotto
MEE6 sometimes
fiery grotto
Stop exploiting MEE6
cosmic bobcat
Ex***
spare sierra
Anyway FYI yeah for the demo this constitutes an exploit - for the full game (especially with mod support) this discussion will be fine
cosmic bobcat
Oh okay
fiery grotto
ok
past matrix
fair enough
cosmic bobcat
Can’t wait to expl01t the full game
past matrix
whats the negative spectral card called again
cosmic bobcat
Black hole?
fiery grotto
ectoplasm or something like that
past matrix
ectoplasm ye
fiery grotto
yeah its ectoplasm
cosmic bobcat
Balatro vs dungeons and degenerate gamblers who wins
fiery grotto
the 2 year old side of my brain wants to say among us for no reason
cosmic bobcat
Don’t you dare
cosmic bobcat
the 2 year old side of my brain wants to say among us for no reason
Amoongous
fiery grotto
Among us
cosmic bobcat
This servers crazy tho
dusky wyvern
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=apsaGEuWcJw&pp=ygUObWUgYW5kIG1pY2hhZWw%3D
Me and Michel,
Solid as they come-
dusky wyvern
https://tenor.com/view/jinki948-cat-disappear-funny-cat-cat-cute-cat-gif-2251047...
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO D:
I am so happy with this meme
I need to share it
with more people
cosmic bobcat
Bruhhh
rough marsh
maybe i make game inspired by it?
rough marsh
lol
jovial steeple
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=apsaGEuWcJw&pp=ygUObWUgYW5kIG1pY2hhZWw%3D
***Me...
this brings me unexplainable joy. me and michael numero one
dusky wyvern
this brings me unexplainable joy. me and michael numero one
May Michael give you +10 Mult the whole game and never leave
oblique ore
@spare sierra where can I ask a really important lore related question?
cosmic bobcat
My bad
cosmic bobcat
Just to be clear my message was removed correct?
neon mantle
Just to be clear my message was removed correct?
yes
cosmic bobcat
Otay
sterile coyote
NOOOOOOOOO bro I’m crying so hard rn /srs
civic niche
what is better? backpack hero or backpack battles ?
nimble whale
haven't played bp battles and since bp hero was first I say bp hero
civic niche
i really like upgrading mechanic in bqckpack battles, from what i have seen
ima go hope and play it
do you know any other games that have simillar upgrade mechanic ?
i really like it!
fiery grotto
Give me Reasons on Which Deck is the Best in the Demo
rough marsh
what is better? backpack hero or backpack battles ?
both tbh, you should give a try to both of it
half moon
cosmic bobcat
I dislike backpack battle because of the online only part
jovial steeple
both tbh, you should give a try to both of it
it is time for the thing.
halcyon marten
rough marsh
fiery grotto
thats boys anyday ngl
civic niche
I dislike backpack battle because of the online only part
bro
i have played that game when my internet got shut down
it works
even RANKED
devs are smart🤌
rough marsh
yes, cuz it saves other people layouts on set round, and is able to send it to other player
junior slate
this got me a crack lmao
rough marsh
cosmic bobcat
i have played that game when my internet got shut down
WHAT
leaden jetty
you posted this image out of context 3 days ago #🃏・off-topic message
please be mindful not to spam channels with repetitive messages
cosmic bobcat
Downloading now
civic niche
rough marsh
you posted this image out of context 3 days ago https://discord.com/channels/111...
oh i forgot about that
civic niche
Downloading now
join their discord.
cedar basin
devs are smart🤌
mmm more likely they're lying to you lmao
rough marsh
fiery grotto
good tutorial
wraith lintel
grand widget
Nice unusual!
I...sadly have none but i want an unusual antarctic eyewear for my scout
neon mantle
@atomic arrow (WoTC discussion continued from elsewhere)
After typing out an absolute essay (and deleting it), I guess I will just say that with Magic, they only have ever shown 3 ways to change/affect gameplay: banning/restricting cards, deciding to never use certain set mechanics again ("banding", as an example) and most recently, "alchemy" for Magic Arena (which I do play).
The alchemy stuff really sucks the most. In a way to try to balance gameplay, they are also hurting players by no longer rewarding wildcards when a card is altered. Here is an example: you use 4 of your hard-earned wildcards to craft a really cool creature that is the heart and soul of your deck (you can use a max of 4 per deck in most formats). WoTC comes along, sees that the card is a bit too strong, so they alter it with a nerf, and it completely loses all value to your deck. You get nothing in return except for 4 worse cards than you initially wanted. So while it is a gameplay decision they made, it also affects the business (in a positive way... for them)
Another side-effect is that with alchemy, they now allow cards that feel more hearthstone-esque: than your traditional magic card. The format I play the most, "historic brawl" (kind of like 1v1 commander) has all of those cards in the pool, and there is really no viable way to escape them, as a player.
</rant>
hidden notch
I never got into MTG but generally I dislike the idea of outright banning cards or mechanics because it just continually restricts the play space. But I realize that there is often no better option when you are maintaining a physical card game
Can't easily patch cards or mechanics to fix the solution, so your only lever left is "is the card allowed y/n"
pulsar basalt
if you think about it, it actually increases play space because if something is too powerful then people are restricted to playing into it
hidden notch
Sure, if you ignore the possibility of the card/mechanic being properly balanced
neon mantle
@hidden notch and that is what they were trying to solve with Alchemy, since you can't really re-balance a physical card (or at least, they never came up with an official way to do so)
The end result was that they have a new format to push digital packs of and they no longer have to compensate players in Arena when a card is deemed "too powerful"
atomic arrow
Another side-effect is that with alchemy, they now allow cards that feel more he...
I mean I think if I played Magic I would like those cards lol
I think digital design space opens up card games a lot
I much prefer tweaking cards on the fly rather than banning them
neon mantle
I mean I think if I played Magic I would like those cards lol
That is totally fair and valid. Despite my rant, I do use some of the cards as well. Kind of have to play the best/ most fun stuff you can
atomic arrow
Or avoiding something forever
atomic arrow
The end result was that they have a new format to push digital packs of and they...
“Compensation” is a trickier topic. I think the root of the problem is the gacha-like monetization structure, not the balancing itself
neon mantle
I think that we need to remember that magic is what, 25 years old? There was never a concept of a digital TCG for Magic's formative years, so this was never really thought about or explored. That also means the fanbase is a bit more "old school" with what they enjoy in a card game. I don't think it is any secret, but MTG players are usually quite opinionated and gate-keepy
hidden notch
MTG has a lot of stuff it needs to be careful about due to it's age and physical format
Iirc the card back is entirely unchanged since the original run to ensure compatability
hidden notch
The problem with changing the correct interpretation of physical cards is that it becomes increasingly difficult to keep up and ensure you are playing correctly and not breaking rules
It's already hard enough for casual players
atomic arrow
The problem with changing the correct interpretation of physical cards is that i...
I think it’s fine to have the outward facing text and a deeper actual rules text somewhere else
Because ultimately they usually only matter for edge cases
neon mantle
It's already hard enough for casual players
Yeah, pre-release is a nightmare after a couple of beers for casuals like me
people getting annoyed I am constantly asking to look at their card to remember what it does lol
atomic arrow
And in most of those cases you’d need the rules anyways to distinguish between them
hidden notch
I think it’s fine to have the outward facing text and a deeper actual rules text...
Definitely, but it gets less fine every time the deeper rules change
It's hard enough for casual players to learn those deeper interactions once, if they are constantly shifting then casual players will wash out even more than they already do
atomic arrow
It's hard enough for casual players to learn those deeper interactions once, if ...
The deeper rules shouldn’t change often anyways, so I don’t think your issue is an issue
hidden notch
I mean it is an issue, just one that's avoided by not changing them often and banning cards instead
atomic arrow
I mean it is an issue, just one that's avoided by not changing them often and ba...
I mean, you can change the visible cards rather than the core rules of the game
hidden notch
I mean, you can change the visible cards rather than the core rules of the game
Not easily with physical cards, which MTG is held to
atomic arrow
Not easily with physical cards, which MTG is held to
Yes but I’m not and I haven’t been talking about physical cards
hidden notch
Well both myself and MrWizzrd have been talking MTG which is held to the fact that they are physical cards and get balanced as such
Obv with digital cards you have the whole world of ideas and you can basically change anything at will
Totally different beast
neon mantle
Yeah, sorry for not being super clear, but I have been talking about MTG this whole time which has a design conflict between physical and digital versions of the game
atomic arrow
I mean that was clear, and I thought it was clear I was talking about digital card games
neon mantle
gotcha
atomic arrow
@signal kiln Cool 14-bis model
signal kiln
<@261979976851521536> Cool 14-bis model
Ayy thank you!
atomic arrow
Ayy thank you!
Also I don’t play YGO but the design articles might be interesting to read
I just occasionally have the Duel Logs play in the background
past matrix
wtf kinda deck am I playing
they played a tamiyo and i countered it then they conceded
wtf
hot thorn
pulsar basalt
ominous
neon mantle
wtf kinda deck am I playing
Are you playing some kind of ranked mode? I'll be real and admit if I am playing brawl and someone counters my first spell, I sometimes scoop. Either way, playing against control can be painful.
past matrix
yeah I was playing standard
past matrix
Are you playing some kind of ranked mode? I'll be real and admit if I am playin...
it was ranked and very confusing, because they hadn’t played any spell except for 1 consider up until that point
neon mantle
it was ranked and very confusing, because they hadn’t played any spell except fo...
Sounds like you are playing B01, so I think they scooped because they were probaly getting flooded with lands and when they finally had something cool to play, you crushed their dreams lol
past matrix
Sounds like you are playing B01, so I think they scooped because they were proba...
they had priority stick though, and if they were flooded why not cycle a tri-land?
neon mantle
what's the point in cycling if my opponent is going to just counter my next card 😦
I think bottom line is something tilted them
or maybe dinner was ready lol
past matrix
still who keeps a hand with like 5 tapped lands, a consider, and a Tamiyo?
neon mantle
It's hard to say because I don't really play competitive anymore (used to play exclusively historic and then explorer for a while), and I never played B01. From what I can gather, B01 strategies are sometimes just "go all in on this thing and scoop if it doesn't work", so that is why I am thinking they just got tilted. Maybe they were running control themselves and were hoping you were in a creature heavy deck? Maybe they kept a hand with lots of lands because they need them in their deck, but failed to hit on subsequent draws? Really tough to speculate, but a quick scoop after a single counter usually (to me) means they just don't want to spend their time playing against control 🤷♂️
wraith lintel
Nice unusual!
ty i like it
my main unusual is a cloud 9 tundra top
i also have my blizzardy storm slope scopers on my soldier
night night
New e🅱️ic background
terse basalt
channel* ch;
chat.emplace_back(std::move((ch = get_channel("#:microphone2:・server-chat"))->convs.back())),ch->convs.pop_back();
std::move() on a pointer is a no-op, right?
terse basalt
`std::move()` on a pointer is a no-op, right?
I std::moved ->convs.back()
ashen granite
ah
terse basalt
`std::move()` on a pointer is a no-op, right?
Also your wording isn't exactly precise but I'm not feeling like being like a language lawyer here
ashen granite
it's so weird that pop_back() doesn't return the popped value
terse basalt
it's so weird that `pop_back()` doesn't return the popped value
There is overhead to return it
sometimes you want to just trash the last value
in which case the overhead is unneccesary
terse basalt
There is overhead to return it
(Usually a move ctor call)
ashen granite
oh yeah... gosh darn it C++
I was about to mention "so why does it work in Rust?"
(answer: no move constructors)
terse basalt
I was about to mention "so why does it work in Rust?"
Other languages still need to move it out
ashen granite
in C++ the compiler is basically forced to run the move ctor unless it's trivial, right
(then it can optimise it out)
terse basalt
in C++ the compiler is basically forced to run the move ctor unless it's trivial...
the move ctor isn't the root problem
this is not just C++'s problem
lots of languages use pointers in place of concrete data in containers
and moving them is cheap
ashen granite
yep
ashen granite
but those would likely be refcounted / garbage collected
terse basalt
when you pop it
Then when you add in something else
you have to either destroy the popped element or move the array
ashen granite
```cpp
channel* ch;
chat.emplace_back(std::move((ch = get_channel("#:microphone2...
this code snippet wouldn't trigger any message destructors right? because of the move
actually... I know too little C++ to answer that
you're calling the move constructor of message through the emplace_back
terse basalt
this code snippet wouldn't trigger any `message` destructors right? because of t...
The dtor of the moved-from message will be called
ashen granite
ah
terse basalt
which is why moves must "leave the object in a valid state"
terse basalt
A not so good analogy is that
you still need to destroy the old house to build something else there
even if you moved out all the furniture already
ashen granite
I was treating destructors like Rust's Drop, which isn't the same
terse basalt
I was treating destructors like Rust's `Drop`, which isn't the same
That's like ~Foo called, but you use std::shared_pointer<Foo> in containers
Also the difference between refcounting and GC
ashen granite
yep, but shared_ptr introduces more indirection and refcounting
terse basalt
More indirection?
ashen granite
C++ is just different to Rust, I should stop comparing the two
ashen granite
it does copy (effectively memcpy the bits from the old to the new)
there are no reference counts
terse basalt
it _does_ copy (effectively `memcpy` the bits from the old to the new)
hmm
weird
most other langs don't
like Java or Python or whatever
ashen granite
it _does_ copy (effectively `memcpy` the bits from the old to the new)
if you need fast moves then an arena / (optionally refcounted) pointer is definitely best
the compiler will elide most trivial memcpys if necessary
terse basalt
it _does_ copy (effectively `memcpy` the bits from the old to the new)
Exactly bitwise copy?
What about e.g. socket objects?
ashen granite
are they immovable?
ashen granite
ah, right, I see the confusion - moves in Rust are bitwise copies, there can only be one valid reference to it
terse basalt
ah, right, I see the confusion - _moves_ in Rust are bitwise copies, there can o...
oh okay
I was talking about copy semantics
ashen granite
if you have a socket, then move it into a vector, the previous reference stops working (the compiler will check that)
ashen granite
you need to explicitly opt into copies
terse basalt
What about a = b
ashen granite
value semantics, with a nice pointer type basically
let a = b is a move, you most likely want let a = b.copy()
terse basalt
value semantics, with a nice pointer type basically
oh okay
terse basalt
`let a = b` is a move, you most likely want `let a = b.copy()`
auto move? That's rude
ashen granite
more like "C++ does auto copy? that's rude"
copies are explicit in Rust, moves are explicit in C++
terse basalt
more like "C++ does auto copy? that's rude"
a = b isn't "supposed" to change b
at least in almost every other lang
ashen granite
I would say that in Rust, let a = b is effectively a renaming of the variable a to bb to a
you can't access b any more afterwards
terse basalt
I would say that in Rust, `let a = b` is effectively a renaming of the variable ...
rename b to a, you mean?
ashen granite
sorry, yes
terse basalt
more like "C++ does auto copy? that's rude"
I mean, you should be alarmed when you do expensiveToCopyPlainType a <whatever goes here doesn't matter>
in C++
Also for custom types only if it's really expensive to copy and you just don't want anyone to copy it you can Foo(const Foo&) = delete;
ashen granite
terse basalt
you need to explicitly opt into copies
Ahh, the bad memories of the Virtual Constructor Idiom
pBase clone(){return pBase(new Derived(*this));}
ashen granite
oh god
terse basalt
Why on earth can't shared_ptr just store the copy ctor alongside the dtor
Or add a copyable_ptr, idk
ashen granite
IMO, Rust is worth learning as a C++ programmer, moreso if you don't fully get move semantics (I think you do get it, though)
terse basalt
I find C++ better over any other language :)
I like the primitive vibes and the OOP at the same time
Though I find it incredibly annoying that we don't have an IMPLICIT std::shared_ptr<T>(T* const&&) constructor
because instead of writing sptr create(){return new Foo();},
I HAVE TO WRITE sptr/auto create(){return sptr/*ugh*/(new Foo());}
Or auto create(){return std::make_shared/*ugh, and also no weak_ptr support*/<Foo>();}
ashen granite
T* const&&? const rvalue reference to a T pointer?
I was just about to mention make_shared
terse basalt
`T* const&&`? const rvalue reference to a T pointer?
Yes. You just need to make sure the arg is a rvalue, no need to actually move from it
However, as someone on SO pointed out, there's a reason
(pointer+offset) is a rvalue
and std::shared_ptr<Foo>(fooPtrAlreadyManagedElsewhere+3) is terribly wrong
You might not realize it even e.g.
pFoo oops{foop.get()+4/*point to second member*/};
Also I uhh
rough marsh
hexagons are ——————————
still kite
the bestagons
rough marsh
yus
onyx turtle
Honeycombs
signal kiln
hexagons are ——————————
6-sided but not in a cool way
neon mantle
Aaaaaand we back
limpid prawn
but yeah that what i like as there is not one set strategy and an ever evolving meta
neon mantle
I don't even watch speed runs, but I certainly appreciate the passion for it. I think it comes down to people with run whatever they think is fun
limpid prawn
yeye
fiery grotto
I watch Rekrap 2s speedruns because he talks about things about his life
neon mantle
I am an ant-speed runner just by nature. it takes me ages to finish gasmes 75% of the way through (looking at you BG3)
fiery grotto
like how he bought a refrigerator
neon mantle
I watch Rekrap 2s speedruns because he talks about things about his life
the NL method
limpid prawn
i really like our current meta for skipless
neon mantle
I have been watching NL since maybe... 2013? the NLSS was like a podcast before podcasts were really a thing. The gameplay is just a cherry on top
neon mantle
I like yrsh, too
fiery grotto
lol
ashen granite
I just realised that NLSS stands for Northernlion Super Show
re: random seed speedrunning, I think it allows for more skill expression that set seed
pulsar basalt
agree
in addition to minecraft, StS also has set seed and unseeded speedrun categories
i bet most other games with seeds have both
fiery grotto
in addition to minecraft, StS also has set seed and unseeded speedrun categories
we were talking about this in videos/streams
fiery grotto
yeah
limpid prawn
in addition to minecraft, StS also has set seed and unseeded speedrun categories
ye im really glad we have both
i just didnt like the guy who was putting down random seed runners
lethal python
Both require extreme skill, and ‘casually’ performed are still beyond what I can do, but I understand the point that if you’re trying to go for a WR specifically then random seed (in most games) just boils down to reset after reset after the WR gets whittled down low enough
Still requires the same level of skill, just a lot of time is ‘wasted’ resetting instead of showing said skill
pulsar basalt
i reload discord and my "daily poll" reactions are all jumbled now
0 1 2 4 6 3 5 7 10 9 8
tf
rough marsh
6-sided but not in a cool way
wdym not in a cool way?
rough marsh
my backpack is a mess
atomic arrow
I have been watching NL since maybe... 2013? the NLSS was like a podcast before...
I watched NL for Isaac and the occasional other game I didn’t know he was famous for a long time
I just knew him as the guy who played Isaac
I thought he was niche
neon mantle
I watched NL for Isaac and the occasional other game I didn’t know he was famous...
I also found him through him playing isaac, just the original flash version (I think). Wild to think that he went on a nearly 10 year run with that franchise.
atomic arrow
I also found him through him playing isaac, just the original flash version (I t...
I think I must’ve found out he was famous when the clip of him commenting on the Twitch leak came out
Because that’s an incredibly funny clip
neon mantle
lol good 'ol #101
terse basalt
@atomic arrow_-move here-_
atomic arrow
<@454101940289142794>_-move here-_
I don’t see why not have just the single Joker class
terse basalt
I don’t see why not have just the single Joker class
and reinvent instance dicts! Wow!
atomic arrow
You can have templates for specific Joker types sure
But I don’t think you need classes for them
terse basalt
But I don’t think you need classes for them
What's wrong with classes
up an abs level
I mean, I could make all of my normal classes metaclasses instead
and use classes as instances
atomic arrow
What's wrong with classes
I guess from a game perspective I would rather have classes correspond to game objects
terse basalt
I guess from a game perspective I would rather have classes correspond to game o...
Inheritance depicts the is-a relationship
atomic arrow
So no HandJoker class
terse basalt
So no `HandJoker` class
It would be an ABC
atomic arrow
It would be an ABC
What’s that
terse basalt
Abstract Base Class
atomic arrow
But it’s still a class
terse basalt
Kinda like interfaces in Java, although Java also has ABCs
terse basalt
But it’s still a class
That can't be instantiated
atomic arrow
And it doesn’t correspond to a game object
terse basalt
And it doesn’t correspond to a game object
So you hate ABCs?
atomic arrow
So you hate ABCs?
No
I said it doesn’t correspond to a game object
I didn’t say anything about instantiating
terse basalt
I guess from a game perspective I would rather have classes correspond to game o...
..
fathom flint
HandJoker is definitely overengineering. There is like 5 in 150 jokers and I dont see a reason for more.
terse basalt
@atomic arrow
Also
def JugTrig(...):
...
JugglerJoker = Joker("Juggler",COMMON,4,trigger=JugTrig)
Seriously?
atomic arrow
<@454101940289142794>
Also
```py
def JugTrig(...):
...
JugglerJoker = Joker(...
What’s this supposed to be a response to
terse basalt
What’s this supposed to be a response to
jokers being instances of a single class
you have to define the functions seperately
or use frickin' lambdas
atomic arrow
jokers being instances of a single class
You can have a class for trigger functions
terse basalt
You can have a class for trigger functions
And...? A seperate class for each trigger?
Because if you have a single class for a trigger
atomic arrow
Then you have an ABC for triggers, a class for specific types of triggers, and instances for specific Jokers
terse basalt
then you still have the issue
terse basalt
Then you have an ABC for triggers, a class for specific types of triggers, and i...
Why not just make them subclasses of jokers
you're introducing another hiearchy
with no benefit
atomic arrow
Why not just make them subclasses of jokers
First, it corresponds to game objects better to me, second because the trigger management system is used by things that aren’t Jokers
terse basalt
class Juggler(Joker):
def __init__(self):
super().__init__("Juggler",COMMON,4)##WE HAVE THIS TOO!!!
I’m picturing every game event as a trigger
spare sierra
Speaking from experience here - there are 100 terrible ways you can implement a game like this and all of them work. I know because I picked one of them
atomic arrow
From special cards to shop/blind/etc.
spare sierra
However you think makes the most sense for yourself may not work for someone else
terse basalt
First, it corresponds to game objects better to me, second because the trigger m...
I guess Juggler sounds less like a game object than JugglerTriggerAction
atomic arrow
Speaking from experience here - there are 100 terrible ways you can implement a ...
I know programming but not how to use my programming skill to make a game
atomic arrow
Handling events is something I never learned so it’s something I think about
I even asked about it in this server before
terse basalt
Joker triggers are during play
they may receive info like current blind, etc
The shop trigger needs not know about the current blind
atomic arrow
I even asked about it in this server before
Here: #💻・dev-talk message
spare sierra
But they are all terrible - any time you have this many rules and exceptions baked into code it breaks down any kind of neat and tidy design
atomic arrow
The shop trigger needs not know about the current blind
But Jokers can have Shop triggers
terse basalt
@atomic arrowAlso, an extremely ugly approach that nobody should use:
Juggler = type("Juggler",(Joker,),
{
"trigger":...
}
)
That also have joker triggers
These must be seperate from shop triggers
atomic arrow
<@454101940289142794>Also, an extremely ugly approach that nobody should use:
``...
Is this in Python?
terse basalt
you just introduced another hiearchy good job
terse basalt
Is this in Python?
yes
atomic arrow
Mobile doesn’t color code it
atomic arrow
<@454101940289142794>Also, an extremely ugly approach that nobody should use:
``...
Tbh I don’t think I’ve used type to create… a type I guess
atomic arrow
These must be seperate from shop triggers
Why must they?
I mean I can understand wanting to make them separate
But they don’t need to be
I was thinking that there’d be a master event handling system
Well
spare sierra
In Balatro the class of Joker cards is literally 'Card'
atomic arrow
Maybe not for user input like mouse
atomic arrow
So you can convert an Ace into Jimbo
I was wondering if there could be a Joker you can drag into your hand
I had an idea for a Sleeved Ace Joker
terse basalt
Why must they?
DIFFERENT signatures
arctic robin
A one-time usable in this way could be interesting
atomic arrow
But I thought it would be easier to create an Ace ex nihilo
spare sierra
Technically totally possible
terse basalt
Making different statement types different subclasses worked extremely well
atomic arrow
In Morse code!
fathom flint
@spare sierra Is balatro using a event based system to proc jokers?
terse basalt
Now say it in English!
JokerTriggerAction takes Combat which might have blind info, etc.
EnterShopAction does not, as it doesn't care about the prev. combat
fathom flint
I never heard of the engine so I dont know if it is a ESC engine
atomic arrow
`JokerTriggerAction` takes `Combat` which might have blind info, etc.
`EnterShop...
Those could be different subclasses of the same class. Alternative you can have both carry (pointers to) the master game state
atomic arrow
<@883987539961192508> <@454101940289142794> <#1116390795549868093> , be excellen...
I thought we were 🤔
terse basalt
<@883987539961192508> <@454101940289142794> <#1116390795549868093> , be excellen...
uh, we aren't being rude or anything...?
spare sierra
Apologies if I misread
terse basalt
yeah we weren't shouting
atomic arrow
Those could be different subclasses of the same class. Alternative you can have ...
Maybe if this has memory shenanigans I wouldn’t do it, but I’m not accustomed with doing that
terse basalt
I was just emphasizing
atomic arrow
Besides theory optimization
spare sierra
<@1116386306788970587> Is balatro using a event based system to proc jokers?
I made the event engine, jokers kind of use it but for the most part they proc instantly and the event engine controls the view
atomic arrow
That’s a bad way of describing it
Algorithm design is better I think
(As opposed to a specific implementation)
terse basalt
Maybe if this has memory shenanigans I wouldn’t do it, but I’m not accustomed wi...
As a Python programmer myself I understand your feeling about that but
classes are not first class in C++
You can't just nudge the abs level(making instances of a class be factories for others isn't exactly a bright idea) in C++ like that
atomic arrow
I made the event engine, jokers kind of use it but for the most part they proc i...
Could you explain the architecture of the event engine? I know how to program but not enough to think what would be a good way of implementing it (and integrating it with the rest of a program)
spare sierra
Could you explain the architecture of the event engine? I know how to program bu...
It's pretty complex
atomic arrow
As a Python programmer myself I understand your feeling about that but
classes a...
I guess I don’t see where it would break down in Python
spare sierra
It's basically multiple queues, each event by default blocks the previous event in the queue, and they can have some 'delay' or 'condition' associated to firing
But it also incorporates lerping, simultaneous events, recursion, it's really a Jenga tower barely standing on its own weight
One of the part of Balatro I loved designing the most though
atomic arrow
Lerping?
fathom flint
I made the event engine, jokers kind of use it but for the most part they proc i...
That is actually quite common for most game.
I think trying to build a perfect event system is bad for these kind of roguelike since there are so many unique effects.
spare sierra
If you are interested in game design, lerping is massively important. Linear interpolation
Basically easing a value from one thing to another
Or nonlinear too
spare sierra
Where all the juice comes from
spare sierra
Best way to practice is to do - there's a wonderful talk where these 2 devs basically create a simple game and layer on various forms of easing to juice it all the way up
atomic arrow
Because for most problems I need to solve I could just write a .py or .jl file then call from it with different data or change it directly when needed, and it just processes a calculation
spare sierra
I'll link it one sec
atomic arrow
What I envisioned for an event system was some master object that handles it and multiple lists for different types of event listeners to subscribe to
spare sierra
atomic arrow
Specific actions send warn the master object when they execute (before/after) so they can see if any listeners care
spare sierra
What I envisioned for an event system was some master object that handles it and...
I have a master coordinator and instead of listeners just a function call I define when adding that event
atomic arrow
But there’s some inefficiencies and other things I don’t know how to do, like “when should an object subscribe” and “how to integrate with other systems”
Like when do Gold Cards would subscribe to the list?
When created? When a Blind starts? When drawn?
(I’m just using Gold Cards as an example if I were to try and think how to implement it)
terse basalt
But it also incorporates lerping, simultaneous events, recursion, it's really a ...
My favourite part about remaking Baba Is You was the RWI(Read-write isolation)
You read from the "prev board" and write to the "next board"
then flip()
And when you flip you generate a "fix map" which maps the old board pointers to new pointers
and you update these in the code that wants to refer to the new board
remaining refs to the old board are fine as we use refcounting
And yes, I have an action queue
which is just an event queue
spare sierra
Like when do Gold Cards would subscribe to the list?
I think you are thinking of a different system, they don't subscribe, the gold cards actually add an event to the system themselves with a function that juices them up when the event triggers
When you press play
terse basalt
So it's like at_play(...)
spare sierra
If you think that's dumb you're probably right
terse basalt
If you think that's dumb you're probably right
You should have a look at StS's event system
I did some modding there too
Java
atomic arrow
If you think that's dumb you're probably right
I was just talking about how I would try to implement it, but I don’t think I understood how yours works
spare sierra
I don't either
spare sierra
What do you mean?
terse basalt
I was just talking about how I would try to implement it, but I don’t think I un...
onplay = []
class GoldenJoker:#stop arguing
def __init__(self,...):
onplay.append(self.trigger)
def onsell(self):
onplay.remove(self.trigger)
prolly something like that
atomic arrow
I think you are thinking of a different system, they don't subscribe, the gold c...
You said they add “an event” to the system that “squeezes them juices them” when the event triggers
terse basalt
I don't know if Lua has some weird class related things though
I do know Lua has prototypes
ugh
atomic arrow
```py
onplay = []
class GoldenJoker:#stop arguing
def __init__(self,...):
...
The alignment is messed up for me on mobile, but I presume when initialized it adds itself to onplay
spare sierra
You said they add “an event” to the system that “~~squeezes them~~ juices them” ...
An event is just a thing in a queue that waits for other things in the queue ahead of it (usually). When it's that things turn, it either waits there for some amount of time (delay) then fires the function call defined in the original event submission