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how does it work
@tepid arrow there are no animation features currently available, the modules that have "in exploration" are not available
Do not post random images.
/imagine prompt: A cozy cabin nestled in the snowy mountains on a chilly winter morning. Smoke rises from the chimney, indicating a warm fire inside. The cabin exudes a sense of tranquility and solitude, surrounded by untouched snow-covered trees. The soft morning light casts a gentle glow on the landscape, creating a serene and peaceful atmosphere. Photographed by Peter Lik, using a Nikon D850 with a 24-70mm lens, the lighting is a mix of natural light and warm golden hour light, enhancing the beauty of the scene. Award-winning Photography style, Landscape photography, 8K, Ultra-HD, Super-Resolution. --v 5 --q 2
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Okay, so last night my favorites went missing, tried to add a new one too it but even that isn't working
did your browser cache get cleared @runic zealot ?
I'm not entirely sure, I somehow got logged out of my google acc
I didn't do anything :/
But I tried to add a new favourite just now, still blank
are you getting an error? do you have any devices or 3rd party extensions that would be interfering with the website? are you on the latest version? I'm not having any extreme issues with it on firefox @pseudo urchin
no, it's just completely unusable, I have to use the browser's zoom feature to zoom on in the picture and use the brush tools
and it's honestly such a mess
the entire website? logging back into your google account shouldn't make a difference if you have device sync or whatever it's called enabled, it should remember your history when you relogin on chrome @runic zealot
That's kinda just the ui atm
I didn't have relog into my adobe acc
it's in beta but it feels like it was done by a college graduate in their free time
Just blank
it is still in early beta, the feature was released last week, you're welcome to provide feedback in the community forum https://www.adobe.com/go/firefly_forum , or in #1087561412269854840 on improvements to the ui @pseudo urchin
Yeah I don't like the webui either, but maybe try and add any suggestions in features and ideas, I kinda just went for using it in ps
I did provide feedback on the day it was released
it's still bad
It takes time Myo
can you post this in the forum? I know there was a fix for the blank page issue a few days ago, @runic zealot
Ty hey, will have a look
I've also passed this info along
can i ask some questions about photoshop Generative fill here? iam typing a hand with sword and it gives me error message telling me removed because violated user guidelines
I will note that all of the new features in the form of options at the top of the images generated, have largely made using them on a mobile phone problematic. Granted I know that's not the target audience, but it's a UI nightmare to click and get what you want. @honest quiver is that also best reported via the bugs and troubleshooting link as well?
whatever i write it gives me removed!
weapons can be a problem and often generate a result like that. It's not really in a position to make contextual judgements.
even simple things giving me hard time
example iam fixing a hand done by midjourney it gives me error as well
Hey!! amazing this adobe firefly!! love it!!!
I mean that's what a beta is still studying how things have to be
mysterious locket heart, a girl, cute, colorful village, comic, golden locket, colorful old room
Hi
hi
@pure kindle you can post questions over here, are you getting an access denied message?
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ok, thank you @honest quiver Challi
Thad does tend to happen especially with hands, try adding a prompt, some censorship is a bit harsh at the moment but someone did bring this up on a stream so maybe they will fix that
- Idk what it think the hand is tho
Hello. New here, got access to firefly like the day before they announced it was added to photoshop. Where in photoshop do I find firefly?
if you have a photoshop subscription, in your creative cloud app, click on the beta tab and download the photoshop bea @fallen hollow
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Looks like it's ban idiots Tuesday.
lol
you can't prompt in the discord
Did some big streamer or someone do firefly things? I could have sworn the prompting was getting less and its exploding again xD
there was an article published very recently ranking the best ai img software
i saw it somewhere on my timeline
maybe its cause of that
They don't even bother to read the three of 4 things above them when dropping into the Discord, prompts right after a "you can't do that here" message continue to amuse me.
#community-chat message Read down from here ๐
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Hello everyone.
thanks for your information. I'll try
Aaawww I see, u added the 9:16 ๐
Greeeeaaaat
Rofl you're right it does bring up safety warnings, no clue why
with "tightly" maybe?
I mean, tightly is a weird word to censor, besides its lemons
Anno? Doesn't that mean year?
And what cheese, last I checked cheese worked fine?
I cannot spelled it yesterday 
Changed one word.
Perhaps, it's my prompt and the lemons were worse than when I did it with blueberries, so there's more to it than that.
But...we're gonna make Shawn wanting cheese again
Well, idk why you wanted it on yellow glass
But...don't see what the issue is with yellow glass
But users are left playing the guessing game of "which word" because it never tells you, and frankly I wanted glass for these so that's a fail.
Yeah this one is a case of censorship going the wrong way
Just finished some cheddar and mozzarella sticks for my lunch
and in a month plus, my observation is that the issue is getting worse and not better.
is it better to write key words or a description ?
Fusskase
It got better, then it fell down a cliff, and is slowly getting a bit better I think
especially if you make typos as often as I do
That really depends on what you ask, and who you ask. I think you can get excellent results both ways. I've created some really great stuff with 5-10 words.
Hm I like both of them ๐ฆถ ๐ง
But not together 
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sage derby is a nice cheese
Well it didn't censor the burger
I meant cheasee
pfpfqpwfiq
Sorry someone talking to me about burgers in dms
I think, its green because the herbs?
i didnt get any issue with yellow glass
I think Sensei just has a very dirty mind sometimes
sensei?
If I'm going for abstracts sometimes it's just a short verbal phrase, and looking to see what it turns out. like for example "winter of our discontent"
Noice Pika Pika 
And that's not a pattern made of lemons on yellow glass either, now is it? ๐
it is indeed
the prompt in their images didnt say pattern
I was making patterns for the daily theme ๐
this is crazy
bro i that will be free ?
and why is it not watermarked.
lol
Roflll xDDD
I think those are just two dumbdumbs standing like robots irl
ohh its a gen fill comparison
i thought they just sent a random image
lmao
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Yeah the ones head looks generated, but the fingers are too perfect for ai
I cant get it realistic, daaamn
I guess that kinda proves the point we got fooled at first
nah it looked like ai, i got confused by the lack of watermark
Guess it depends on which person you looked at first
Are we gonna start a lemon trend now?
Interface needs a button that you can click that generates the prompt and settings as a single text field.
teddies eating lemons
Trouble will begin if there's squeezing involved.
a good Teddy
language, please
Yes Ma'am
thanks
Sure
i find that putting realistic in the prompt doesnt work
u gotta use the filters and styles
I'm not sure Imagine does anything here either.
Uuuh looks really satisfying
Glass full of wine sunset
He gets it right and I don't 
cause of ur filters
so I need "Photo" and? ๐
if u want true real life realism. use 'None'
photo is to make this look photographic
Ooooh I never used "none" xD
and with 'None' add 'Baroque'. that will stop any cartoons
whats different between photographic and realistic? ๐ฎ
@wooden granite #community-chat message
when trying to apply for photoshop firefly beta i get an error after filling out the form, is it even possible to get access now?
Here's a slightly different interpretation xD
photographs are often cool looking, more stylish and have certain aesthetic. Real life things look boring and detailed
create dark
Had a lot to read to understand why everyone is suddenly throwing lemons...๐
No!๐
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Thank you 
its a hard game
Rofl yeah, kinda came out of nowhere
But you see Teddy, Mandi actually reads so deffo not a prompter
lol
Escape clause used
Yeah, pretty new here. And surprised by the amount of prompting tbh.
Nice ๐
People just join, don't read anything and think its midjourney xD
But glad you're here! Hope you enjoy ๐
So I see,,, Thank you. ๐

How I get this in realistic: "Imagine a mystic lemon with intricate patterns and symbols, where every lemon is adorned with mystical runes, shimmering crystals, and enchanting sigils, super detailed, super realistic"
the prompt says 'block with runes' but you havent describes any blocks being there before in the prompt
I'd start by removing the two super phrases at the end and adding them back one at a time to see if they even do anything
Life throwing a lot of lemons here today...
Oh I meant lemons xD
anyone having trouble blank pages in firefly ?
Thank you Razi ๐
do u want the shimmering crystals on the lemons?
or next to them
/ surrounding them
on ๐
small test
Okay heres the thing coockie
looks cool but not realistic ๐
xD
i think the word mystical takes away from the realism too
I always use "super detailed, super realistic" 
Oh right :c
Always test to see if they are actually adding something to you work.
@stone notch @wooden granite @wooden granite https://community.adobe.com/t5/adobe-firefly-beta-bugs/vertical-format-9-16-issue/idi-p/13828039#M1958
only one lemon there meets the desire they look natural.
Same!
This is without the super detailed and super realistic
Ignore the background its a remnant of another prompt
might go in with gen fill and do the rest
Aka, I don't think sensei even knows what this means
Who is your sensei? ๐ฎ
The actor behind firefly ๐
Thanks I upvoted it.
so u call the ai sensei?
Thats nice
many lemon texture with intricate patterns and symbols. The lemon are jewel encrusted with mystical runes, and enchanting sigils
and kingler
you mean Pikachu?
Well its that time of day that I can't see anything on my screen anymore cuz of the sunlight
i cant mention copyright characters
I was just trying to get Shawn to say pikachu on stream ๐
phahaah you are evil
lol
He didn't fall for it xD
phahaaha
He knew who I was pffffttt
i did that once on twitch for some dumb joke and then i couldnt rename myself for 60 days
Rofl should have checked that beforehand
Ty for the idea muahahahaah
nice
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bear king in spring surrounded by cherry blossoms
Nostalgic filter
@wooden granite This server does not support prompts, please check out the #faq channel to get started
is there a way to emphasis one aspect of prompt?
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#help
@old yew what do you need?
How to use nd how to give commands
It's a website, not a discord bot, silly!
Thanks for ur help
Use OBS.
Do not post files here.
File>Remux
Did you watch the video I pinged you with?
People ask me why I can't order food
I tried
Now the delivery driver somehow got stuck in some random housing complex
As the video says, sign in with your Adobe ID. It will work unless you are under 18 years old.
hmm I can't find a "hangry" emoji.
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No food prompts please
"Jack and me". :). always say it in the singular to get that right.
That's for facepalming me ๐
yummy, gimme
we live in #1077713831381455019 right now if you want to join the fun
HI, IM FROM COLOMBIA... IM TRYING THIS NEW FEATURED... IT`S GREAT
How are you guys
can someone tell me where i can download it
Please refrain from posting gifs without any context, thanks
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Sorry folks, was abnormally absent whole day since I woke up this morning. 88 yr old dad eith end stage renal failure fell in the toilet late last night. This morning his face was swollen and he couldnt lift himself out of bed. Got an ambulance to take him to hospital and later ran a CT scan, found out he had a flood of blood in his right brain. Hospital was full so had him transferred to another hospital and am just back from hospital. Long day.
generate eagle eye
I'm so sorry to hear that Kevin, I hope it goes well โค๏ธ
So sorry to hear about your dad. Caring for ailing parents is so difficult. I hope he recovers and that you are also able to take some time to get some rest after going through that.
Thanks, he is 9 months into his stage 5 renal failure and he refused to go for dialysis, so i respected his decision. He kept saying just let things be and asked me not to worry about anything.
take care 
Here's some teddies for you hey
Sorry to hear that. I wish he recovers well.
who could that be?
Donkeykong
No, it's superman!
how do i work this thing lol
Mcdonalds
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I don't think it's his intention actually
a 3d cake child ยฏ_(ใ)_/ยฏ
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my Firefly Account Access Denied
it worked fine for a couple of days
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@cinder mountain Gimme like 30 mins, just have to do some irl stuff and I'll make a ss, I unfortunately allready closed that file
yes i am 18 and i live in india
Try another browser and clear your chache.
okay sure
Also mods can delete if inappropriate, but found this video interesting particularly the latter part
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lHguKr6nS4Q
Firefly is not mentioned but Ps is xD
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Lately there's been an explosion in news around AI, with some new groundbreaking revelation every other day. With chatbots like ChatGPT and image generators like Midjourney and DALL-E, the landscape, especially for content creation, has irrevocably changed...
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Not helpful.. It's based on your Adobe ID.
it's a bot
I hate it when VPN's are blocked. But I understand why. It's just so annoying to have to turn it on and off each time you visit another website
A retro pop art style of the word StoneVille, colorful inspired by cannabis but modern
:p
#archived-share-your-work-3-23-to-11-23 LOL. Banned
...
@cinder mountain Redid quickly, I just made a full screen selection of the background layer, used and prompted for the rain (The photographic didn't really do much I just added it in just now to see), I prompted for a grey background cuz it will influence the image, and then reduced the opacity and fill of the layer
This was what it generated
Remember that this was also a 2 min job
Oh, as a second layer.
And then just quickly re-created it for Dia to see
aaah okay
I'll check on how to make the sheep wet later ๐ But no time rn
Also AI is not a replacement, it's an extra tool to serve your skills.
Just watch me ๐
Watching now ...
I never use genfil on images, cuz I can add whatever I need to an image cuz I learn how to get firefly to give me exactly what I need ๐
But I still want to learn how genfil works etc
Unlike people who can't read things in a discord
yeah also that ๐
Thanks for showing @runic zealot
but this AI is just like a cheat code in a game. people can't make hedshots, and now they can. But in the end they are not good at the game.
This is the game now
But like anything else, you need to learn how to use it
And you need to learn how the game works
Jup, or just be me and be weirdly good and beat everyone when I play cod, despite never playing fps games ๐คฃ
- in full disclosure I then kept being ended by a guy with a knife (This was back in the age of LAN)
Hehe, still, AI in most hands feel like auto-aim.
It's more like, anyone hits something if they shoot enough, but consistently hitting what you want to hit not so much
Shitgun auto aaim ๐
If im surprised by what ff gives me, I did something wrong imo
Don't get me wrong, this AI spawns a whole new way of things
I used to do nature photography. Wake up at 5 oรงlock. figure out when the sun would hit the right spot. learn about the correct exposure, get the best composition. That is a whole different approsch now to make it in AI. Also it is a whole other way of making an image.
Think there will always be room for photography
So, you want to be lazy haha.
Can anyone tell me if itโs possible to train firefly with our own model sets? As with stable diffusion (Lora/textual inversion etc). Or perhaps more simply tag our image/s? -specifically Iโm creating novel/unique products for which common terms would not produce the desired effect, e.g. for a habitat that looks nothing like a house.
Hobbyists, or even people who value the real thing over ai generated
I''m just pointing out how it was and how it might be ๐
It's happened before, old crafts don't necessarily die out. They do however increase in value
I've asked this a million times to Adobe, but never got an answer if we can, or will be able to do so in the future
is this tool will be free always ?
no. After the beta ends, it will be paid service
I have heard of something like that coming, but don't know much more so may be wrong
On a personal level, I would reccomend everybody to go out into nature and and make amazing images on film and be oldscool ๐ ( and then enhance those images with AI ๐ )
hi, is there a way to add as favorite an image you edited in generative fill?
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Used too, now its a massive job just to get ready to leve the house
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Well they pinged everyone so xD
Thanksโฆplan B is (hopefully) I can use trained stable diffusion models in combination with firefly (to improve๐ ) โฆitโll just mean more work.
Like I said, I have no idea, I may just have heard something about it, but either way may take quite a while
Yo Moderators, you guys need to block those bots.
Still waiting for a replacement for lensa... without all the data stealing...
Stock has many of them i think and many are also free
huh
thats how i used shattered glass effect
instead of prompting it just licensing one from Adobe Stock
for free
The whole idea was to see if there was a way to prompt it
Kinda defeats the entire point otherwise
i guess it may work
with a bit afterworkl
afterwork
the issue is that Firefly in PS doesnt work quite well with many specific styles atm
Which style are you reffering to?
Besides, as it turns out...wet sheep don't actually look that much different ๐
for example comics
Apparently they did increase the quality of anime, so maybe comics
I've literally never tried since I don't do art styles
many portraits with effects from a single photo... https://prisma-ai.com/lensa Apparently sucks data from your phone, contacts, etc...
rofl, should check before using xd
really?
didnt look up for that one
Just what I've heard here in chat
im not an anime fan tho so i never used it
I've only ever watched pokemon, so I'm literally the worst person to judge the quality
i watched some more but not anymore ๐
hi there folks.. I have my own cartoon characters... can firefly take my characters, and then generate additional pictures with the characters... such as change the dressing, different pose, and background
Dressing and background can be done with inpainting but fully taking a charachter and generating the same char in different ways no
is inpainting already available?
generative fill which is basically Firefly can but the character itself to be consistent and changed poses? Not really as of now
your best hope is the feature they are yet to release: Train on your own images
yes, both in web and in Photoshop
thanks for helping me with this... I am all new with this..
I guess that's good news for storyboard artists...
ok... let me try to get signed up first on firefly... do I need an adobe account?
yes, I see that train on ur own images on the website as a feature in progress...
for Firefly itself you dont need an Adobe account but you need to register for beta access. For Firefly that is integrated in Photoshop (as of now only available in beta app) you need an Adobe account and subscription that includes Photoshop
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thanks Gareth... I just did and tried out the generative fill.. its neat.. but when can we use the inpainted pictures commercially
I have no information as to when Firefly will be out of beta and we will be able to use images commercially
ok, thanks
sorry couldnt be of more help, believe me I want to be able to use Firefly images commercially too.
use dreambooth instead. 10x better and more customisable. i normally do a dreambooth model, download the cpkt, and then do a checkpoint merge at 0.07 strength with dreamshaper 5
so about the watermark stuff. in the photoshop beta demo, it will not generate a watermark. how would this work if we generated a whole image in photoshop? do we have to find a transparent png to slap on top?
yeah, we're not asking anyone to add the watermark in manually in photoshop, obviously that would be great if you did, but images can still be traced back to firefly with content authenticity, even partial/cropped images, or screenshots @wooden granite
For images produced with GenFill in Ps it is okay for you to share without including a watermark. You do not need to add a watermark.
Images produced with GenFill on the FF site should include the watermark.
Basically, you should not remove watermarks from finished images. Also any images made in the PS Beta using gen fill are not to be used commercially
ohhh ok thanks @honest quiver @lone rose
A bit late to the convo, but it's on my to-do list. This also reminded me that I need to update my lists. I stopped keeping track of how many anime I've watched after doing an A-Z anime marathon once.

Hi guys! I starte to use firefly today, but every prompt i wrote the system respond me "Can't load. This image produced an error. Please try again.". What I'm doning wrong? Please somebody help. Tnx
Can you share what prompt you are using?
very simple ones. f.e. i use "rome colosseum comics style"
Okay well, try refreshing your browser first if you havn't done that
nothing. I also clear styles, but dosent' work. i'm on firefox
The prompt itself works I'm afraid
its at your end
i'm sure it works. but dosen't work here. just try to understand why. can be firefox? wiche browser do you use?
Try a different browser or make sure yours is updated
Haider....did you just prompt the server ๐ ๐ ๐ ๐
i copied his prompt to paste into firefly, and then i took a screenshot but it wouldnt enter my clipboard lmao
so everytime i pasted it here, i was pasting the prompt
I knowwww I'm messing with you
Lol
Darn I missed my chance
gonna try something... i was exicted to try this instead of Midjuourney. tanks for helping me.
Nah he deleted it in like 2 sec, would have had to be quick xDDDDD
Hope you manage to get it working hey ๐
I missed it too xD
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you are the only that vitnessed xD
Why did I have to be the one who saw, I think any of the mods would have relished the chance xD
take screenshots next time, as a proof ๐ซฃ
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I saw it posted twice, they also missed the "R" in "rome" the first time, but I also knew the context for it so I ignored it.
nahhh im too fast with the delete
I didn't even see first time Jack, lucky it was you
Shawn and Gareth hit me with the do not prompt several times
Shawn...using the bot, leaving me terribly confused
Mine was by accident
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3 times huh
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Sure @lone rose
oh no
I'm not gonna click that
I'm 21
some kid saying i hope u enjoy adobe firefly
๐คจ
sounds ai tho
Ouch poor you
@gentle crypt please do not spam this....
Ouch again
same as me hehe
You're so young Haider ๐ถ
ok boomer
Oh sush
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Also pretty sure that isn't even accurate
thats the funny bit
Just get nitro
the day i spend money just to use emojis is the day i check myself into an asylum
Kevin I did not forgot books for drawing
If I rate the generated result with a thumbs down and for example one thumb up, will it generate the next set of images based on that input?
I swear
I have it on my mind!!
that much in detail we have no insight
ok thanks
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https://community.adobe.com/t5/forums/postpage/board-id/bug-adobe-firefly-beta you may try asking at forums
Adobe Firefly
I think I missed something ๐
oh yeah the "forum thing" ...canโt access this wonderful place ... but a support person is working on it ... at least weeks ago
yea, Kevin asked in Ai server for tuts on drawing traditionally, and I have said to provide some resources
10 days passed in between
...ok ... but now you said books ๐
ok, let me ask at forums and when/if you receive an answer I'll let you know
There is a post someone made in share your work regarding stuff for coloring books
May be completely off point but
Going with this
no we speak most primitive drawing, pen and paper
I guess the answer is this: You want to learn drawing? Well, go buy an iPad! Thatโs how it works.
๐ #welcomeToTheFuture
idk, am a fan of drawing from my elbow (read: like big formats)
@gentle crypt consider this a warning
What are the plans for Adobe Firefly in the future as online tool? Will it be available as app to work seamlessly together with other application apps on ios?
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please stop posting these, I can't really understand them, you're welcome to post text in the chat instead @gentle crypt
so thumbnails sketching isnโt working for you ...
it is, but I still prefer bigger formats. But lets keep this to topic of server xD
so, Firefly
ok one last thing ๐
others buy normal sized paper for drawing ... you rent a wall to get going ๐
I try to generate a flower with "human-like legs" any tips? Always generates another human figure
180x90cm and 210x120cm
just type out human and add full length shot
will I ever learn how to type length I always do lenght
me looking at this chat right now:
anyways it worked also ๐ was an improvement thanks
I know I know we got off topic, sorry
/imagine
thanks god adobe firefly doesnโt generate animated memes
yet
Back to work mods ๐ (I am joking)
45 year old indian astrologer
you need to use adobe firefly online
yes
@coarse trellis https://community.adobe.com/t5/adobe-firefly-beta-discussions/rating/m-p/13829068#M1060
facepalm you cant see it. but I have posted
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okk thanks
@small moon was the one who said on march 24th: Will check with the community team and get back to you (monday) cause they are on vacation...
can't help you there, hopefully they see a tag here
Heya @coarse trellis
Those programs are INSANE!!!! Thanks for the share!!
only case I know was unable to use forums were once who did not had adobe account.. but I know you do
My favourites have returned yaaay ๐ ๐ฅณ
we can see an impressive black vintage Camaro on a highway. The car is shining and appears to be in excellent condition, revealing the care given by its owner. The Camaro's aerodynamic and aggressive lines are evident, conveying a sense of sportiness and classic elegance
Iโm special, I know ...
Will Adobe Firefly come to Adobe illustrator?
I am your favorite? ๐ฅน
/j
xD
I'll just give that one to you xD
@jagged pawn #community-chat message
that is what they say, it yet to see how that rolls out
Would be cool to generate vector shapes/designs that can be edited
How specific can you go with adobe firefly? when is to detailed not working? Or do we have to switch between image generation and generative fill? is that even possible to go back and forth ?
The most specific you be, the better results will you get basically. You can work in a workflow text2image>genfill, and reupload to genfill if needed
๐ just added something specific and it worked ... thanks
sometimes it may get confused with extra long prompts, so in case of generating multiple things you would perhaps give a go to generative fill
I have the feeling that soon you can get certified as an Adobe Firefly Prompt Engineer
Please how do I generate images here?
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and I won't be the one, instead I'll draw xD
prompt engineer for drawings?
why not, hey xD
#community-chat message dissapointed @runic zealot
is there a future plans section? import image? import video? style to video? etc?
does it make a difference if you use a specific order within the prompts? Does a comma effect the outcome?
Actually need help, what sauce am I supposed to put with this?
any excusion prompts or bias we can add in text?
Yes it does hey, Firefly puts a higher weight on earlier prompts, and after about 1.5 lines the weight of the prompt drops off
Try [Avoid=Prompt, Prompt]
I should really check if this is character based
image to image (generative fill) is already there. No specifics releases of the video features, yet
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Lemme see if Firefly even knows what that is
Can you make it look more tasty?
Ask your fav mod
/j
What about mayonaise?
Did I just get trolled for the second time today?
@coarse trellis @austere bough Propably, still working out what to put on it xD Lemme try mayo
their favorites are appeared, like in Firefly
I was just trying to be funny xD
Brand name wont work lol
Strawberry pineapple sauce with popcorn
Ik :p
We understood Katarina ๐
Just make it pop
add a drop shadow then
๐ lets not be gross
its my fault, I got off topic
Okay guys ima go try this difficult fight in jedi survivor again prolly will take about 10 times...
Okay you deserved it, here's some steak boiled with kiwis and pineapples enjoy
I like it, but I donโt love it.
I wonder if you people detest the food sometimes xD
this is just evil xD
Oh I was just messing with Mosredna ๐
hey y y lets not use heavy words please
Make pizza hawaii next
Okay Microwaved steak with Bannanana and chocolate sauce
Sorry hey, changed ๐
that is enough internet for a day
Tasty
The number of prompts that are blocked for "safety issues" seems crazy. Adobe has to fix this in some way. I get what they're trying to avoid, but they're blocking off huge swaths of non-objectionable art that render the tool basically useless for things like concepting or storyboarding.
Think bigger...but keep it simple.
3 googoltonnes ๐
Please how can I generate images?
Nah, I think I've done enough harm for today
I like where this is going.... but let's start all over again
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Okay final one here, nicely cooked steak
I donโt see the fun in it.
Trust me, Iโm an Artist
that is funny but disturbing
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Not a chef apparenlty
depends on how much work am under xD
I think you're fine Katarina, but I won't be eating any of Kevins food if I have the chance ๐
should you add the "avoid" thing in front or at end of prompt?
Katarina definately made it work....I havn't somehow
that syntax may or may not work at the times
You definately made it worke tho ๐
and how do i keep the human legs without a body ๐
end [avoid= insert what you want to avoid] ....o.o
photoshop?
Despite Kingpins nitpicking "I see red"
do i need the squared brackets? (no Adobe firefly online)
idk if its working in app, never tried
I thought you were the expert here ๐ค
but generate human and then do what you gotta do..
cut away his body?
nah nah
make a dog eating fish on the bank of a river with a grizzly bear looking on
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I mean, I wouldn't cut bodies but you may hide part of the image masking it out xD
I am not an expert
I see...just do some magic masking ...
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voice-to-image ... any plans?
there are some plugins that can do voice to text. not any rumors for in app feature
#1087561412269854840 feel free to post a suggestion though
Please translate voice: Nomnomnom
alexa doesn't understand me xD
that won't work for me xD
you need to speak in drawings
will portrait or 9:16 give you the highest output in adobe firefly (vertically)
define highest. we have issue with that format atm its squishing images
the highest output quality to continue edit the result
see
format doesn't have to do with quality
image will give you most accurate results. Using image as a base is how other styles are built further on
the "squashing" isnโt a problem cause itโs a sport-themed image Iโm generating so make it look slim and fit ๐
I mean, it is an issue in general xD
Apparently it works very well for Girraffes
fast do dali's elephants
now is your chance people
yeah lets keep that as some feature buttons. Add fish-eye too.
there is already
found some dog....anyone missing his or her dog?
I think he's blocked ๐
we shall start a game find Valdo
I have barked. sorry, not sorry
After how many minutes/hours should you rethink your creation strategy when you not achieving the results you want?
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close enough
Make it more ..interactive.
Demanding ๐
I have no answer to that. Although, if you struggle with something in particular, you may start a thread in #1087561080638808095
like so, and then community and staff members may be able to help you get somewhere closer
...or...or do it old school ... spend hours searching stock photos, spend hours putting it all together in photoshop ๐
#nostalgia
I mean, no, just have a patience for process
Does this suit your style of "Interactive"?
I see some talent here... keep up the good work ๐
Just found a pic of you waiting for support (Used plastic skeleton just in case)
add some cool sunglasses with generative fill ๐
Suits you
The Oscar for best contextual-realtime-ai-generation goes to @runic zealot
Cute baby on the horse
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Rofl considering my irl size that's realistic
hope you find a good place for that golden guy
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I think we should hold a competition where we hold conversations using ai art
the award for best idea goes to @runic zealot
No lmao,
Relax kingpin, you just have to send htdog pics to perfectly replicate today's prompt jockey
ok, will now try to get my idea finished
see you all later
You want us to make hotdog pictures that replicate Shawn?
Gotta have the goatee
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This is not the right place
imagine prompt:gorilla, magical, Club, oil painting, Analog photography, 2d platformer, 100mm, Sticker, clean colors, Hatecore, Aurora borealis lighting, hyperrealistic intricate detail finely detailed ultra realistic Tonal Colors octane render 8k
ok
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I 1 don't understand?I go to the section for example text to image shows me the video and not the tool
the account is already there
Does this relates to you #announcements message
I don't need a video, I want to start image generation, and I click and the video gives me instead of me entering a prompt request.
I don't need a video, I want to start image generation, and I click, and the video gives me instead of me entering the text to generate
I don't need a video, I want to start image generation, and I click, and the video gives me instead of me entering the text to generate
please read the linked post of announcement
and stop spamming please
sorry, I just thought the text was not translated, and this translator worked.)
I am quoting post from announcements The Adobe Firefly beta is only available in countries where Adobe services are available. Currently, the beta is only available in the English language. Countries where Adobe Firefly beta is not available include Russia, Belarus and China. In addition, Adobe services and products cannot be used in Cuba, Iran, North Korea, Syria, Crimea, or the so-called Donetsk and Luhansk Peopleโs Republics.
^ is this relevant to your case?
and how to get around all this, I work with adobe, I even have a certificate of training in adobe, I can show
is vpn suitable?
I have no clue to be honest
I just saw that people who were banned from testing and everything worked for them
Not sure about that neither. I am sorry, cannot help you further there. If you have specific cases to report, feel free
does everything work the same in Photoshop as on the website?Or more complicated, I'm talking about the main functions
hello
when i put a new layer it just becomes transparent and not a white background, how do i fix this ??
Generative layers do that with video
so is there a fix or ?
is that normal
I only checked it once and the genfil didn't add to a video
I didn't check any further I'm afraid
i am so confused
Okay I may have gotten confused as well
What exactly did you do?
i just deleted the white layer and now itโs only adding transparent layers
Did you have a video in there?
no itโs for animation thereโs no video
drawing i need a white layer not a transparent
i think i got more confused coming here lmao
Okay hey, is this related to firefly in any way?
Sorry for cussing but nvm i figured it out
up there is video discord, feel free to join it :3
i just did thank you
how do i verify??? sometimes itโs so confusing
you might have to checkmark in rules
it says โreact to this message to enter the serve i reacted to that comment and nothing happened
really?
yup
Hello everyone, everything good? I wanted to know how to enter the BETA, I'm tending to weeks and I can't. :/
there is no wait time anymore
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Thank you!!!
is it possible to do on top of images, as in midjourny?
try a bit later, seems bot is down
@nova parcel What should I put on for you?
stupid bots
anything but meat ๐
Tell me ๐
get a room
how about cauliflower ๐
for what ?
And?
i was talking to myself actually how rude of you to think i was talking to you. but i forgive you.
endamame lol
Lets see if firefly can make it ๐
Does anyone know how to generate images over photos?
see we both like a challenge
How do you mean Jansen?
oh how kind
ok tonight's chat is just wild xD
thank you for noticing
Sorry for my English, I'm from Brazil and I don't speak your language very well. I wanted to know if it is possible to upload a photo to firefly and generate images / illustrations from that image
so wild Katarina omg!
tonightโs such a movie wouldnโt you say ? like itโs so insane how crazy the chat is tonight.
all new layers are transparent unless you fill them, It sounds like you deleted the background layer, fill one of the new layers with white then use further new layers to create your art
yeah i figured it out i was just confused i messed something up but thank you.
on my watch lol I see me be fired from volunteering o.o
Noooooooooooooooo
depends on what you're trying to do, you can upload an image and use generative fill on the website, or upload a vector file and recolor it on the website @kind rampart
gotta learn stay on topic
Hi! This happens sometimes, have you tried unreacting and reacting to it again?
in this case it would be a jpg image
I have come across discussions regarding firearms and other restricted items that are not permitted in chat. However, I am curious if there exists a method to incorporate images related to these subjects as prompts. While I comprehend the reasons for their exclusion by default, I believe it should be permissible to include them at our discretion. Is there an option available to enable this? Otherwise, it appears that our ability to fully explore our imaginations may be limited here.
Then that would be generative fill, quickest way is to drag and drop and image into the top section of the gen fill page
It was art related which is on topic since Kevin would likely use it in the future once they implement the control net thing
The restrictions extend to prompting that imagery as well in the beta currently @wicked stream
While the product offers a cleaner and more accurate experience over MidJourney, the forced limitations are disappointing. Thank you for the insight.
what can I do if all image results are blurry?
Blurry? How do you mean?
they are now just "crips and sharp" in one small area, the rest it blurry ๐
What are you trying to do?
If on firefly it depends on how you structure your prompt
same prompt for hours
What's your prompt?
Maybe was the seed ๐คฃ
can you try telling it to use a specific type of camera with certain focus? It helps with some of my prompts though you might need to do some research on the type of lens you're looking for
what type of camera do you recommend for a sport scene of a runner ?
here's a prompt using a formula i created and it includes the type of camera and the style of the photograph
"blurry background indicating speed", "Nikon D6 with AF-S NIKKOR 70-200mm f/2.8G ED VR II lens","action sports style photograph"
worth a shot
This conversation is probably more appropriate on other servers. Also, it really depends on what you're referring to and you're trying to do, e.g. realism, anime, cartoons, etc. I'm assuming you're talking about Auto 1111 running locally or something else?
yeah a1111 (im just asking here because its an ai art server) and im not looking for any specific styles, just anything EXCEPT anime
Most people here are probably using Firefly. MJ to a certain extent. And Auto 1111 is likely somewhat rare because it requires setup that the average user isn't going to be able to do.
(or doesn't have the hardware to run effectively)
oh :( i dont use mj i just use firefly and sd but thanks! (firefly is better for artistic, while some sd models are best for recognizable things)
it has been optimized to run on 8 gb of vram :))
I run it with a 3090Ti, with xformers and still isn't good enough. heh
8GB of RAM. Yikes.
i run on a 4 year old amd raedon vega
heh
(without xformers ofc)
My condolences. :)
hi
hi
yes
now it wants to work
I use (or have used) all the popular models, Dall-E, SD, MJ, Firefly and now Gen Fill in Photoshop. Each has their value and things they're good at. These are all tools. Its not what it does; its how you use it. :)
yeah ive used those and a few more. its interesting how each do everything slightly differently
for example mj is good at having a natural artistic style, while dalle is good with photoreal
Dall-E, meh. Pricing. No thanks. :)
and if is good at text and firefly is good at... idek what its good it. it seems like a random "skillset" to me
yeah i havent used dalle in a while
well actually ive used bing image creator which is free dalle
and better quality
i think the best thing about it was the inpainting and outpainting
it was the first good one around
but now stable diffusion and firefly have it so idk any more
Firefly is really good at certain photographic imagery. https://twitter.com/dhumann/status/1639464496606621696?s=20
And it will get better over time.
MJ v5+ is good at everything but the pricing is rough. heh
SD with ControlNet offers incredible levels of compositional control. But has large barriers to entry, hardware requirements, tech know-how, tough learning curves.
Firefly deals with text in the prompt better than all of them. Which is impressive and kudos to Adobe for that.
I'd say that needs some work
Of course it does. Its a beta. Publicly available for a couple months. It will get better.
can i remove watermakrs using adobe firefly?
does anyone know the official release date of Firefly video and how much it will cost? Does it work with Davinci Resolve on Mac? Thanks everyone!!
yeah its interesting
no
Jup I know, it is very good for Beta, and its incredibly easy to get decent results with even a simple prompt. But it can get a bit meh with something more complicated
darn it adobe! why must you rotate my api key ๐ญ i have to replace it every day

We have no information regarding that. And the images can be brought into any app that supports bitmaps/raster images.
It's even worse with other models. At least I've gotten the words I've wanted most of the time. MJ, meh. Not without an image prompt with all of the letters and even then it fails.
Okay well words, Firefly is doing pretty well on. But I've managed to get incredibly complicated prompts to work consistently well on a local version of SD
Yeah. SD Auto1111 can do almost anything since there are no limitations. (No limitations other than hardware, learning curve, being tech-savvy, etc etc)
But I do think that the prompting could be improved by allowing setting of weights and also negative prompts which is very useful in getting exactly what you want
Rn I just use where in the prompt I put things to effectively weigh them since there seems to be a point where firefly suddenly starts dropping a prompts importance
Tho at some point I really need to check if that is character related or how that is determined
Uhh 3 months almost full time SD ๐ - By full time I mean actual full time
They are likely not going to reveal that sort of thing until they're ready. If ever.
Please don't do that here @slow sapphire
I just need to get to actually testing it
So far I just say about 1.5 lines on my laptop screen
Oh really. Ok thanks. Some time this year 2023 I would presume tho no?
No info on that to pass on. Sorry. :)
Tho, it didn't work so well for Shawn
There are still some coherency problems. But then again, there are with every GenAI model.
Yeah idk, it worked on every test I did and I used it to only give the person I wanted to have the glasses
May be fixed now
But at the time, you prompted glasses and it gave both people glasses
But to all the people I explained how to do it, they also managed to get the glasses on the right person
Adobe's understanding of language is pretty good. Works well most of the time.
With all of these things, you really have to learn how to speak their "native prompting language."
Now that really is true
It's like everything else, need to learn how it works and how to use the tool
Exactly. Part of being good at GenAI is learning how to structure the prompt.
Part of creating great imagery is knowing what you need to prompt and what is just easier to composite later. heh
People struggling to get everything into one prompt are most likely wasting a lot of time. (My opinion.)
True, but atm I'm just trying to prompt everything. Works well for the most paet
I can get quite a few things in, but again, it's how you structure it
Yeah? What are you gonna do about your boy's hand there? Keep prompting or just fix it in Photoshop? :)
Don't know about Arty stuff tho, maybe page length prompts are needed ๐คฃ
Didn't say anything about hands ๐คฃ
I'm gonna train an inpainting model and a LoRA just to fix hands. I'll be a hero. haha
You really will be ๐
I found an open source db of hand photos. I've been thinking about it. heh
Like genuinly, you fix the hand issue
You will deffo be a hero
Not 100% exactly what you had tho
I'd pay for that
Got the hands messed up the ring lmao
Pipedream probably unless I rent hardware to do it or use RunPod to do it on a A100 or 3. :D
I mean, theres someone in features and suggestions that literally offered Adobe hand pics
Pretty good hands there. Just Ps "Remove Tool" to get rid of that gem stone. Good to go!
Same here just need to remove the mutant
Yeah. Sometimes the hands are decent. But tough to control.
"Baby hands" - "adult hands" - "senior hands" etc
Yeah but these are pretty easy fixes, maybe someone actually put some work into the hands ๐คทโโ๏ธ
I can hope
It will get better.
Yeah that's true
I tried old people the first time the other day
Gave me old face, crystal clear young skin on the rest of the body ๐ Had to specifically prompt for it - mean to make the rest old xD
A year ago there weren't any good tools to do any of this. Now? Don't blink. Things change quickly.
Yeah hey, makes me wonder what we'll have a year from now
And I was surprised when they released Ps 2023
Text-to-video prompting. Talking to it like ChatGPT most likely.
Yeah hey, I'd imagine it won't be to great at the begining, but just imagine
Video does take a lot of computing power tho
"Make a minotaur in shiny silver armor with intricate filigree". [image] "Now make him standing on a battle field." [even better image]
Apparently some expert in something said that in the future, we may go to stuff like netflix, and just prompt make our own movies xD
Rofl, can imagine
Defo your own games.
or at least prompted game environments.
Yikes
Next unreal engine propably xD
Pretty sure Unreal is already working on that. Like that one company is doing this for skyboxes. Pretty neat.
Yeah I am literally willing to bet ai and prompting is somehow gonna be in there
Custom skyboxes from text-to-image.
That would propably allready be possible tbh
"No. I want it to be a dark and gloomy day!" [boom] new skybox. heh
Rofl, game designers finally getting their own cheatcodes
Its definitely a cool time for creatives.
Like, when you can create almost anything, you have to really push your imagination further.
That is really true yeah
That's exciting. I hope people use this power well.
Interesting to see what we'll get in the future and, well, maybe there are applications we haven't even thought of
I know, right?
Like the Adobe and Google AR stuff. That is really wild. Placing AR experiences in the real world using Google Maps and Google 3D stuff.
Oh wow, I don't even know about that xD
Everyone in the stadium at a concert or whatever, they hold their phone up and see a T-Rex running toward them. haha
Damn, that sounds amazing
Everyone seeing the same AR experience from their own perspective.
There's some cool stuff on the horizon.
You could literally hold an entire new kind of show just with that actually
There was a basic demo of this. I think it was at Google I/O but I can't find it right now.
There is also one demo using Google Geospatial Creator and previewing the stuff with Adobe Aero.
Probably not far away from prompting 3D models and inserting them into a scene or a real-world location using VR/AR tech.
Regardless, generating imagery is just the beginning. :)
@nova parcel Also, feel free to check the content credentials, no inpainting ๐ #archived-share-your-work-3-23-to-11-23 message
sorry what about content credentials?
did u directly use the prompt to generate the cigar?
oh lol
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https://verify.contentauthenticity.org/ Any photo made with Firefly, if you upload it here it will tell you it was made in firefly, and also, if you used inpainting it will also show up here
Yeah I said Cigar, and that smoke was coming out of it etc
that's really funny, it came out well
thought we would experiment and have some fun
Nice having some challenge sometimes xD
And then I get another dm from someone thinking I'm a bot
Great ๐
are your dms open? if u don't want to, u change privacy settings for dms from friends only
It's tempting xD Especially when people think I'm a bot. But there are people that genuinly ask for help so ๐
Tho, this one person, only realised I wasn't a bot halfway through me trying to help them
i was saying that last year. we are a few years out but games, movies and music will be made to order. you go to work on thursday, type in the movie you want to see and the genre etc and by friday it should be compiled and waiting for you. same with everything else. it's kinda bizarre how the prompting in firefly really does mirror the job that Delores had in the final season of Westworld. It wasn't so much about the physical output as the nature of the indvidual who is inputting their perception or description of things.
in 500 years someone is gonna invent this new thing you do and take an analog stick of some colored mark making material and a thin slice of dried celulose and you put the marks on the slice. they'll call it "drawing".
Delores was a "Prompt Engineer" although they didn't call it that. heh
I've assumed most people in here are bots
[looks around nervously]

