enfusion_particles

[silver schooner]

gpu particles?

[amber arrow]

why the decals of hits look different in the game and tools (better in tools)

[crisp iron]

Looks the same to me, just different lighting

The top one is shot in the ground, so light everywhere.
The bottom image is in a wall, so you have shadows casting inside the holes

[amber arrow]

I mean like normal map for decals doesnt work in game, like they are 2d, nor 3d

[queen totem]

what do you mean? there seem to be partial shadows on the decal, which will only happen if there is normal mapping

[amber arrow]

even in tools sometimes normal map doesnt work for decals

1st pic 2d (broken), 2nd is right

video example here, u can try it in ur tools. Sometimes it works properly, sometimes no, restart helps

[queen totem]

Normalmapping just fakes lighting, this works in both the videos. If the object reacts to light differently than without normalmap, then normalmap is working. What you mean not working is the parallax rendering effect

Idk, but could be that parallax effect doesnt work on certain objects (in Arma 3 it only worked on terrain textures, but i guess that was probably improved in enfusion). Still, there might be limitations where the effect can be used

[bold stirrup]

Is there a way to use the same emitter, or copy/save emitters to use in different particles later? Right now thinking of making huge particle effect just so I can save all my emitters to one place which would be a dumb way of doing it

[silver schooner]

yes, it would be weird if you couldnt save your particle systems

[bold stirrup]

I can save the particles, but not the individual emitters, which I feel like could save on a lot of development time on particles if avaiable

[silver schooner]

sure you can, make a prefab out of a particle emitter entity

[bold stirrup]

@silver schooner Can you add those prefabs to a prefab? Kind of defeats the purpose if you can't do that

[silver schooner]

yes! any entity can be saved as a prefab

so, create your emitter in world editor, then drag it into the resource browser and there's your prefab

[bold stirrup]

Looking at it now and not sure how to create a emitter as a prefab or add a prefab to the emitter. I understand changing particle type to a prefab but that doesn't seem like it would be editable as a base effect to use or slightly edit for another effect.

[silver schooner]

particle editor saves particle effects, you need an emitter entity to play it in the world

also I like the project name

so you'll assign your particle effect to your emitter entity

or whatever entity type it is that is supposed to play it

if it's a warhead, it will have the particle effect in one of the effects in its components

so you need to override the warhead, slapping your glorious effects in it

I can be more precise if you tell me which effect you'd like to replace

[bold stirrup]

I understand all of that. What I want to do is save emitters so I can use them across multiple particles if I wanted too. For instance a derbis_cloud that I can push to RPG particle as well as the MLAW and then tweak the emitter in said particle to create the particle I want using a combination of tweaked emitters. So If I create a new emitter and call it whales and tweak it for one particle. I can then export the whale emitter as it's tweaked for the RPG particle to the MLAW particle and make a few tiny adjustments to use it there

I don't see an easy way of doing that, so far it looks like I have to re-create whale emitter as it is in another particle to be able to use it

[silver schooner]

or you can have the individual parts of your effect as separate particle systems and spawn multiple emitters at a time, though that may not be very efficient

[bold stirrup]

Where do I request a feature?

[silver schooner]

https://feedback.bistudio.com/

[silver schooner]

testing stun grenade particles (loud sound warning)

tested this enough times to give myself a migraine

[rare wedge]

Affects AI?

[silver schooner]

yes but not very good

[rare wedge]

Its something, great work!

[rare wedge]

Wow, really good

[silver schooner]

to make it more annoying I also decrease aim sensitivity, as you can see when I try to turn back

but that might be too annoying

[rare wedge]

Yeah, looks very good, i had been thinking about how to make flash grenades for a long time, but this effect that it causes is much cooler xD

[silver schooner]

for AI until I find a better way I just disable their guns they also try to run away so maybe I can just make them move slower

but this isnt really a good channel to discuss scripts

the sparks are nice tho

[amber arrow]

Nice! But i think more sparks and slightly improved smoke will be better!

[silver schooner]

yes, but I want it not to cut people's fps in half

it's supposed to stun not blow up an xbox

[umbral kestrel]

xbox stunned = player stunned too

works 👍

[silver schooner]

well the grenade did crash the game at one point

[umbral kestrel]

thats a fatal grenade then

[silver schooner]

unfortunately, it crashed it for both the person throwing it and the person being stunned

cursed grenade

[umbral kestrel]

I'm currently trying to work out a grenade too and the only things I've done is replacing the M67 model with the model of the grenade itself, the rest was just copied over

unfortunately for me the grenade caused the game to crash exactly the moment you try throwing it

[silver schooner]

missing animation bones for pin animation?

[umbral kestrel]

Probably

[silver schooner]

also probably not the right room

[umbral kestrel]

that probably too 😄

[bold stirrup]

Any way to make sprites not be locked to front facing?

[silver schooner]

disable billboarding

[silver schooner]

the loadout cloth component has material overrides, but they don't seem to always work

they update when I change something in the component, but then load the world again and it's back to its original material

[rare wedge]

On workbench they usually are bad, but if u test it on peer or the game imself are good. Have a lot of items like that and is a mess xD

[silver schooner]

just an update on this that to avoid this headache I've configured all my override items to use prefabs with changed materials in meshobject instead of the material overrides in the loadout cloth component

[amber arrow]

Are there any ways to make the particles (for example, when hit) appear randomly? For example, I have two effects of hitting a brick and I want them to appear randomly?

[silver schooner]

you can create a particle emitter entity that randomly chooses one of the two on init, dont know if theres a way inside particle system

[amber arrow]

Can i do this on override hit effects?

[silver schooner]

hm dont think you can plug prefabs into gamemat hit fx config

[amber arrow]

the problem is that i need to override all of buldings and walls and etc. and change it manually

[silver schooner]

bro its a brick just use 1

[amber arrow]

how?

[silver schooner]

you can slap your particle fx inside an override of a .gamemat (I think)

[amber arrow]

yes, but i can only duplicate it file and then override all mats and etc and put my file inside manually

and it has only one possible .ptc(

[silver schooner]

oh no u cant override these? 😦

sounds like something for the feedback tracker

maybe you can override the ptc itself?

[amber arrow]

yes, ptc can be override

thats how i made betterhits

[storm stratus]

Is there a way to get particles to lay on the surface of water to make wake effects? or would that be achieved through a decal?

I think the last thing I need for my boats to look more realistic is splash effects and my particle skills are very sub par

[silver schooner]

I would wait until this is officially implemented

[storm stratus]

Arma 4 it is I guess

[silver schooner]

I didn't even know decals work on water

[storm stratus]

Neither did I

[silver schooner]

particle restitution doesn't seem to work against the ocean

[amber arrow]

I think you can make a .ptc file with splashes and add it as a hit effect (not for an explosion for warhead) for a projectile on water

[timid orbit]

Small question (I did not look at all) but is there an effect of falling drops? A bit like the waterfall effect of @silver schooner

[silver schooner]

like a leaking pipe or something?

[timid orbit]

Exactly

[silver schooner]

no, but it should be very easy to make

[timid orbit]

I don't know I've never done

[silver schooner]

are there any other "basic" effects you'd like to see? if we can gather a few I might make a pack

[timid orbit]

Yes, I was thinking of this:

• stream fall effect (not waterfall)
• water droplet with the sound of falling drop

[silver schooner]

don't think particles can make sounds on collision, so a general looping sound of drops falling would be more appropriate, but it wouldn't sync with the particles

[timid orbit]

Yes yes of course the particles don't make noise, and the sound must be added afterwards, after maybe it is possible to sync the sound of the drop with the particle

[silver schooner]

perhaps, via script if you know when the particle emitter emits a drop and when it hits the ground, but it seems unnecessary for performance reasons, having scripts running every frame that may or may not play a sound of a drop

unless you do something clever like use triggers to start/stop the emitters and the sound scripts

[timid orbit]

Yes or as you say, leave a fathom in the background, for me it is not disappointing

Do you have a way to do it? And to put it in your effect package available on the wrkshop?

[silver schooner]

I'll try in a few hours

[timid orbit]

you are the Holly Bacon

[silver schooner]

I'd like to redo the waterfall as well

and add some more stuff

[timid orbit]

as you want

[silver schooner]

hoping to get it done by sunday

[timid orbit]

Nice

[silver schooner]

something like this?

[timid orbit]

Oh yes

[silver schooner]

I can't really play sounds when they hit the ground though

[timid orbit]

and an ambient sound?

[silver schooner]

hopefully

I am seeing "SCRIPT (E): Entity is already deleted" when I have an emitter entity that is set to Delete On Finish

[silver schooner]

don't think I can get it up by tomorrow, I got 7 crashes today just working on materials and it's getting really tedious

[timid orbit]

Yes no worries, same on my side with the models...

[timid orbit]

@silver schooner How are you doing with the water drops?

[silver schooner]

too many crashes for me to work on this for now, need a break

[timid orbit]

Yep same for me, no problem

[silver schooner]

I get A LOT of crashes when working with visuals like materials, but much less crashes when working with things like scripts, which is why scripts/features are easier for me to develop

[timid orbit]

Yes you surprise me, I have the same with the world editor...

[silver schooner]

yesterday I got a crash while I wasn't even working on anything, was making instant noodles

is workbench telling me to go on a diet?

[orchid wedge]

No, it's telling you not to ignore it and doing something else.

[silver schooner]

im sorry workbench

[storm stratus]

Is there a way to get the particle emitter to offset to the currently firing barrel on a weapon?
For instance the cannons on my ships are one gun with two barrels and I can’t get the particles to align to the second barrel

Honestly all that would need to happen is the particle emitter would play again but offset by the second barrels offset

[silver schooner]

each barrel could have its own emitter? not sure how to set this up tho

[storm stratus]

It seems wasteful because why would you have more than one barrel but not allow for particles if you dont fire them in tandem

[silver schooner]

I don't think there are weapons with multiple muzzles in the game yet so until there is one we have no template

[mint ruin]

There is barrels implementation on muzzle component

[visual marlin]

Does anybody know if the Re-Light mod By @storm stratus works for Community servers ?

[stable sphinx]

yea it does, we used it for the airport and it worked well it did have a few glitches where you would be flashed randomly while flying/driving

[visual marlin]

We try to use it earlier today it was installed but it didn't work is there another way to fix that?

[stable sphinx]

no clue, i’m not the one that added it onto the server the COL did

i’m just now learning how to code stuff so i can make a chinook

[storm stratus]

I am not maintaining my Re-Light mod anymore and I think the most recent update broke it. The devs have shown that they will be doing lighting in a future update though, so it's just a matter of time

[visual marlin]

Cool thank you for reaching out for me at least

@storm stratus your ship mods are pretty cool keep up the good work man

@storm stratus do you plan on making an American Iowa class battleship?

[storm stratus]

it's in the works

[visual marlin]

I can't wait for it it's going to be great

[zealous escarp]

I'm making a white phosphorus grenade, is it possible to make a spark with an additional smoke emitter of its own?

[amber arrow]

yes

[zealous escarp]

How would I go about doing it?

[proper nymph]

particle emitter can stack, if you edit the effect you can add more on the left side somewhere

[zealous escarp]

Not quite what I was after, but I figured it out - made a prefab with its own particle emitter class

[raw zephyr]

are particles less computer intensive than using sprites? I know with xplanes 12 when they switches to volumetric clouds (with engine changes to handle it btw) preformed better. say if I was to make heavy flak in the sky would particles be the better option?

[silver schooner]

what's the difference

[raw zephyr]

in xplanes? they got better fps than using billboards

[silver schooner]

were they gpu particles?

[proper nymph]

i thought particles use sprites 🤔

[silver schooner]

usually, yes, in a way they are billboards

the reason I ask is if you go from something like cpu billboards/particles to gpu particles then you get instant performance benefits

[proper nymph]

interesting. reading about it this seems to be not exclusively a yes/no question (can be stages in between) https://www.genericgamedev.com/effects/cpu-vs-gpu-particles-from-20-to-200-fps/

[raw zephyr]

well im just asking. I think it would be cool to eventually have flak in arma. but currently the particles in refrogwies are cpu not gpu. and people riley on using particles instead of billboards for muzzleflashes, explosions, smoke, dust ect.

[proper nymph]

flak is certainly possible with current particle limit

[silver schooner]

Gpu particles?

[silver schooner]

btw how is it setup that smoke blocks AI perception?

like is there a checkbox somewhere?

ah Occlusion parameter in the emitter

[amber arrow]

Can we have different explosion effects based on material that was hited? Like for bullet impacts

[hazy lynx]

Is there a way to limit the bounds of a pe? For instance keeping them within a ScriptedGameTriggerEntitys trigger box?

[amber arrow]

Is it possible to make particles lod always be lod 1 and >? because i found that particles lod 0 = 30 fps, lod 1 = 60 fps (simplified) and it will be good, that i can make them lod 1 at any distance

[silver schooner]

fps is lower when you are closer to them when they are bigger

take more space on screen

also resolution of texture, they might have MIPs that are used when in LOD1?

[amber arrow]

What is MIP?

[silver schooner]

it's basically what LOD is to models, open up any texture in Workbench and there is a MIP selector next to the RGB channels if the texture has MIPs

each MIP I believe is half the resolution

I don't know if particles have them though

[amber arrow]

i will check, thank you!

[silver schooner]

is there a way to randomize chance of particle emitting in general?

I'm trying to make a flame appear with a low chance, but tweaking the birth rate RND and emitting time either makes the flame appear or doesn't

does birth rate RND only go upwards?

[amber arrow]

Gpu particles please

There are greatest assets for particles and best particle editor, but we cant use all potential with low fps

[old jasper]

They may be limited somewhat due to console hardware, but I agree, performance would be better if it was gpu based.

[silver schooner]

well, lower end hardware benefits much more from gpu particles than higher end hardware

even having some GPU particle support would be very welcome, ie. particles that don't need to collide with environment such as smoke, since big sprites have much larger performance impact

[gritty pecan]

Trying to get the exhaust effect to work on the helicopters. So far nothing I do seems to get a particle effect to spawn. I'm wondering, does the SCR_MotorExhaustEffectGeneralComponent require that it be on a wheeled vehicle to work? I see is references m_pVehicleWheeledSimulation in the script definition. Also SCR_CarControllerComponent. There is a SCR_HelicopterExhaustEffectComponent, but that does nada as well.

The exhaust particle effect ptc animating and showing my current SCR_HelicopterExhaustEffectComponent.
https://gyazo.com/e919208804f5c88fac00e1f5aa7adbcf

RPM Signal is set to EngineRPM, which the signal viewer shows the helicopter IS outputting. Thrust Signal is set to EngineThrust, which is also appearing in the signal viewer.

[tawdry crater]

DO you call TurnOn on your effect, probably yes right ? Also you can use debug menu to see particle emitters, so you can if something is emitting or not

[gritty pecan]

By TurnOn, are you talking about scripting the effect in, or using the exhaustEffectComponent in the prefab?

[tawdry crater]

There is a script method, which is TurnOn, that you should call when you turn on the engine probably

SCR_CarControllerComponent::OnEngineStartBegin which is callback from CarController, is called when the engine is started, then in this method this is doing

        if (motorExhaust)
            motorExhaust.OnEngineStart(false);```
Which is just calling OnEngineStart on this component, then in this it is essentially just calling TurnOn on MotorExhaustEffectComponent. Otherwise your particle will not be simulated

[hearty mortar]

How can I make particles go towards the middle point (origin) of the particle system instead of going away from it?

[silver schooner]

perhaps spring?

I don't know how to control the angle with spring so that it faces the center though

and also I think you can't spawn particles on the surface of the sphere, it's always a volume

[hearty mortar]

😮 spring is perfect

[hearty mortar]

Yeah and no min volume either 😦

[past latch]

Is that actually possible?
How expensive are particles? Would GPU particles less expensive?

I really would like to use more particles, but if the FPS is bad, I dunno :S

[silver schooner]

GPU particles are less expensive but more difficult to implement, for example unreal engine manages to simulate 10x as many particles at a time without performance loss when they are running on the GPU rather than the CPU, but GPU particles in Unreal are less interactive with the game

[chilly canopy]

Is there a component to attach a particle emitter to a projectile?

[past latch]

rockets should have particle emitters

[chilly canopy]

The do have the rockettraceeffect, but unfortunately that relies on the rocketmovement component

[amber arrow]

you can attach it as child in world editor, but it has problems that in some cases it will appear even in magazine for example

[chilly canopy]

Thank you, I might have to create a new component it seems, but I'll try your suggestion first!

[amber arrow]

for ref see vanilla campfire prefab, i guess there something like "SCR_ParticleEmitter" comp

[silver schooner]

is there some special checkbox for light to appear in emitter? I copy pasted all group properties from rpg7 for Light emitter but it doesnt do anything

the one in rpg7 emits fine, the one in my ptc does not emit at all with same birth rate settings

I figured it out, doing a copy and paste of some property groups in the particle editor sets them to incorrect values breaking the emitter

[tawdry crater]

Can you report it on feedback tracker, please?

[wicked jewel]

Almost all of the particle effects I'm running are flagging this error on the servers causing people to disconnect or the server to freeze, does anyone know how to update the effects?

[silver schooner]

why would this cause any of the mentioned things

[silver schooner]

changing color using this color button on the right crashed workbench (but cant reproduce now)

[tawdry crater]

If you have this error "The effect is outdated", just open your particle in particle editor, and resave it. Then everything should be fine

[wicked jewel]

I went ahead and did that and created over rides for any particle mods I had. It cleared out the errors on the Eden Editor log console, however on the live server they're still occurring. Any ideas?

[wicked jewel]

My thought process was it was flagging the errors from each unit, per player. Running up to 4 groups was fine, but once I hit 5 the stall errors started to happen and the AI started becoming unresponsive

[silver schooner]

those warnings are local so shouldnt matter

[chilly canopy]

I'm looking to override the particle effects using the Overriden Material Props in ExplosionEffect in ShellMoveComponent. I changed the GameMaterial ID to the one for Concrete, and the hit effect and Collision Info Particle effects do not change when the projectile collides with the concrete material. Is there something I'm missing?

[north forum]

#enfusion_physics message

[silver schooner]

hows the future of particles looking?

gpu particles? yes/no?

even limited functionality/no collision or something

was the limit on particles increased?

looks like its 10240 on my pc, how big is it on xbox series s?

[chilly canopy]

Any word if prebaked alembic caches will be able to be imported?

[past latch]

I believe overriding .gamemat's is in!

[hidden aspen]

Does anyone know how i could attach a particle to a prefab a character is holding?

for example, im trying to make it so when you turn a "flashlight" on it spawns fire on it, like a handheld torch

[hazy lynx]

You wouldn't do that from the character. You'd do that from the torch. Then just render the particles when the torch is lit.

[hidden aspen]

Yeah, thats what i though, im just unsure how to attach the particle

[tawny relic]

Isn't it just a component? I'm actually also looking into this today for my Molotovs.

[hazy lynx]

@tawny relic You beat me to it lol

I'm gonna do them too

    [Attribute("{819F276C4C27A4B6}Particles/Enviroment/Fire.ptc", UIWidgets.ResourcePickerThumbnail, "Prefab of particle.", category: "Zone", params: "ptc")]
    protected ResourceName m_sParticle;    
    private SCR_ParticleEmitter m_pParticle;
    
    
    override void EOnInit(IEntity owner)
    {
        super.EOnInit(owner);
        m_pParticle = SCR_ParticleEmitter.CreateAsChild(m_sParticle, owner,Vector(0,0,0));
    }

@tawny relic Here's a snippet to get you started.

[tawny relic]

oh sick! Thanks a ton! 🙂

[austere wadi]

Is it possible to change the particle effect a vehicle wheel uses when driving over a surface ? You cannot change it inside SCR_VehicleDustPerWheel atleast.

[silver schooner]

what's wrong with this particle system that makes it despawn immediately on a dedicated server but not in workbench/peertool?

for comparison this ptc works correctly

it despawns/doesnt place when I place a SCR_ParticleEmitter entity as game master with the Fire ptc as the particle system

[silver schooner]

I forgot to post this, this is an example prefab that I use with the two ptcs

please tell me it's some easy fix bug

[silver schooner]

made a ticket https://feedback.bistudio.com/T174893

[sterile condor]

https://youtu.be/rUzxsmf8dLg i wonder is it some kind of engine bug or i did something wrong

[silver schooner]

in your Particle Effect Entity there is a checkbox that determines whether to wait to render particles until they are visible in camera or not

[sterile condor]

im using hitEffectComponent on warhead for this

aaand i dont see what you mean

[silver schooner]

It's a setting in the Particle Effect Entity that replaces SCR_ParticleEmitter

[sterile condor]

there is no Particle Effect Entity or SCR_ParticleEmitter

i guess im doing smoke the wrong way?

maybe its easier to spawn prefab in warhead that has particle effect

and avoid using particle effect in warhead

not a lot of setting here

[silver schooner]

that's the thing - I believe particles were using SCR_ParticleEmitter under the hood which is now replaced by ParticleEffectEntity that has this functionality

so, if we assume that HitEffectComponent was setup to use the new ParticleEffectEntity (I don't know if this is the case), you get what you see as the default behavior is to wait with particle render up to when it's visible

[sterile condor]

yes, but this default behavior is not acceptable in this case

[silver schooner]

does this mean if I unload a PKM mag into a wall behind you, when you turn around you will see 100 puffs of smoke at once?

[sterile condor]

perhaps

[silver schooner]

I wanna see this one sec

[sterile condor]

ok situation is even worse

warhead was doing literally nothing lol

i replaced it with empty prefab and i still have smoke

this is what spawns particle

aaaand same nothing

[silver schooner]

I tested my theory and it didnt happen 😦 as in the particles worked correctly

it's a bit weird you can't change this setting inside the hit effect component, it seems unnecessary to have to make a script to somehow turn it on if that's required

[sterile condor]

thats really weird

nvm fixed it

[silver schooner]

nice, what was it?

[sterile condor]

this checkbox

in timertrigger component

[silver schooner]

sweet

[upbeat valve]

Tell me how to make Tracer Parctical constantly activated, if you look at the video, out of 40 missiles only 2-3 are without Tracer animation. It's completely random

[sterile condor]

someone from BI forgot to clear Explosion_Ammo_Rack_Large particle on exp

[silver schooner]

debug balls

[proper nymph]

ah thats what i saw on heli destruction 😂

[pearl stone]

made a new particle fx

guys do yoy know if enfusion engine support to do some uv mapping animation to make some fx like blood pool

[past iron]

look at water and Cloth (Flags) and Rivers maybe ?

[pearl stone]

yes. i think we can use the flipbook to realize a dynamic bloodpool

[silver schooner]

is there a wiki article on the new fun particle stuff? for example sub effects and particle contact components

[frank swan]

Been trying to make a particle for a MANPAD (Redeye) with the smoke being visible from the missile to the shooter, in other words leaving a trail for at least 1 minute... But no matter how I define the particle it just stay attached to the projectile and disappear rapidly. Any advice?

[proper nymph]

maybe it gets deleted on projectile impact? edit: nvm i have no idea of projectiles 😄

[sterile condor]

Could someone from BI check this crash log? eafbdc60-f9ce-417e-b6fc-a5fd1775c6bd

my smoke grenade particle crashes game afte 1.0 update

and i have no idea whats happening

[runic minnow]

Crash is in character animation component. So likely not related to your smoke grenade?

[silver schooner]

the animation went up in smoke

[runic minnow]

Its the same kinda thing as here #reforger_servers message

[turbid barn]

Is it possible for us to debug crash logs like this? How do you take a crash guid and determine the failure point?

[runic minnow]

No

[silver schooner]

where is AI perception defined for smoke particles?

[tawdry crater]

I would love to have 100% repro crash for this one

So if you have. Please send me the mod

[sterile condor]

whhhat???

[sterile condor]

if you have some time and patience, download rhs, Open in WB

override t14 turret prefab and enable disabled tucha weapon component

this is easiest one

repro:

1. sit in t14 as gunner
2. select tucha smoke launcher slot 3
3. launch full stack (just hold fire button)
4. kabum

[tawdry crater]

Ho, and do you have the setup of those particles ?

How do you spawn them ?

[sterile condor]

i can send you prefabs

[tawdry crater]

Yes please

Do you use your particle effect or vanilla ?

[sterile condor]

i dont remember how i spawn them, but its probably dumbest way to do it

my own

[pearl stone]

hi guys. if you wanna make a effect that when npc is being shot, then create blood decal on ground or wall. how to do it? i researched one way that you can open the collision tag in particle editort then it will keep on ground. but how about the wall?

i think reforger ' hit reaction is too simple. even no blood decal...

[lean dock]

Just getting started with particles in workbench. I've made two new particle explosions for my custom C4 charge and my HE canister grenade. Is there a tutorial or instruction on how to export the particles out of particle engine into Reforger for use in the game? Thx in advance for your help.

[amber arrow]

DM me, i can guide you if you want

[silver schooner]

adding lifetime rnd produces artifacts with lifetime alpha

ie. the lifetime alpha seems to remain the same despite different lifetime of the particle, so it might disappear abruptly instead of fading out

also, when a particle already exists in LOD0 and you move to LOD2 this particle stays up, so long lifetime particles in LOD0 are not efficient

[vast urchin]

I have been away from the game for a moment. I came back to see a new SCR_BaseEffectManagerComponent. I added this to my little jetski to get the splash particles working, which in this set it up, it does turn on when the RPM hits 4000 as intended, but it does not switch of until the engine is off, I did set this up for this to turn of less then 3999 RPM. Have I done this wrong or have I got the wrong idea about what this component can do

[silver schooner]

Sort of, the collision is not physically accurate for meshes but for particles like spheres it's enough

[fossil valve]

Was it your the mod with the particle effects for the waterfalls?

[silver schooner]

Yes ages ago

[fossil valve]

I really love it. Any chance of getting back?

[fading walrus]

How can visibility for AI be configured for particles? Apparently AI can see through my avalanche clouds.

[silver schooner]

I think its some occlusion setting in the material

[fading walrus]

Hmm, it's in units % per meter. What does partial occlusion even mean? Does it delay enemy perception or what?

I guess I'll just go with the 12 %/m that I found for the smoke grenade emitter.

[hearty mortar]

Is there a way to disable frustum culling on particle emitters?

[silver schooner]

Use Frame Event (or something like that) on the particle effect entity

[urban blade]

is there any way to have a particle effect play one time and trigger at my Fire_Last event?

[ripe tangle]

i cant edit the boolet particle prefabs 😢

[amber arrow]

you can

[ripe tangle]

How? Whenever I look at the prefab in inspector it won't allow me to open prefab in world view, I is grayed out for me

[amber arrow]

you need to override or duplicate or inherit it

[ripe tangle]

i did, but i will try again

[ripe tangle]

ok i got it working, must have been a one off thing

[amber arrow]

If you will need any help, feel free to dm me anytime

[urban blade]

how can i get this particle to trigger for the clip on just the last shot

[mental tapir]

do weapons with tracers throw a different shell? you could use the same logic

[zealous escarp]

They do not

I haven't tried this but I imagine you can trigger a particle via an animation event

So your firelast animation would have an event that would (by a script or something) trigger the particle

Similarly to how they trigger sounds

[urban blade]

I thought so too so I poked around but couldn't find an example of an event calling for a particle

[vast urchin]

Hey, I am using the SCR_BaseEffectManagerCompnent for a vehicle, I can get the signal to turn on at the required value, I can not turn it off though, has anyone played around with this component

[raw zephyr]

somebody should make a particles tutorial.

[zealous escarp]

What do you want to know how to do?

[vast urchin]

Id love to know why SCR_BaseEffectManagerCompnent does not turn off particle effects after turning them on at the required parameter

[random pawn]

does anybody know if we can have volumetric particles or effects?

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1115366887174455398/1226945605587304580/20240408-1722-01.8113746.mp4?ex=66269d23&is=66142823&hm=b82929e4a805199e3e2dcb76a84aab4c10ced18aa18f05f91499b5c5c3d7c5a5&

I tried this but it's really bad for FPS 🤣

and doesn't look too good

[silver schooner]

nope not yet

also particles are not gpu, and limited at like 10k I think

[raw zephyr]

Anyone knows how to reduce the size of the flames and the amount of smoke?

[silver schooner]

Edit the particle effect

[cloud coral]

Yeah if you edit all of the individual particles in the left emitter tab of the particle effect and play around with Shape Size and Size Multiplier/Size RND it should make it smaller

I halved those values and the effect is already visibly smol

[raw zephyr]

I don't know how

lol

Im in the particle editor but i can't find mine lol

Can't see my project lol

nevermind I had to change it from STANDARD to PREFAB

[cloud coral]

If you open a vanilla particle you should be able to File->Save as and make your own version. Overriding one is probably gonna conflict with stuff

[raw zephyr]

whats the name of the tap i need in order to change the shape of it ?

[cloud coral]

If you click on one of the individual effects on the left emitter tab, it should show your it's properties on the right side, including the Shape Size at the top, and the Size Multipler/Size RND a bit more down

[raw zephyr]

okay. thanks

[cloud coral]

You can also hit the checkmarks in the emitter tabs to disable/ certain effects. This doesnt seem to actually disable them ingame though, just in the editor so you can see each one. If you found a particle you don't want, like the huge smoke clouds you may just want to get rid of entirely, you can right click it and delete the emitter as well

[amber arrow]

Is particle oriented in ParticleContact component doesnt work or i do something wrong?

[amber arrow]

Bug report for not working features (Particle oriented and First contact only) in SCR_ParticleOnContactComponent
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OxNgU-DwnRg

[amber arrow]

https://feedback.bistudio.com/T180643

[prime hare]

Is there an explaintion of how to make projectile impacts particles depend on the surface that they hit?

for example one for steel or earth of so?

I searched this discord but didnt find anything

[silver schooner]

the surface materials define it

I think

[amber arrow]

.gamemat files

[deft nimbus]

Could someone please help me create this particle effect, it will make it llok sooo nice. Could someone help me with that please?

[amber arrow]

Check how its done in RHS for T14 armata

[zealous escarp]

Yeah just load RHS into your workbench and you can open up the particle effect for firing and see how it's done

[wet iris]

any tips for a particle effect disappearing in world and not respecting the lifetime setting? the particle works fine in the editor but keeps disappearing abruptly in world

[dense flume]

heya, quick question on how to replace/override hit effects?

want to do something similar to ashys better hit effects yet a bit more larger and

with my own twist lmao

like ive already done the effect i just kinda need to replace the actual effect

[orchid wedge]

Probably a bug. Reported here, but this one ingame in game master. https://feedback.bistudio.com/T181490

[dense flume]

this is so Skibidi

my idea is that

if

hit effects = big = felt supression is bigger

obviously kinda have to look good too

[dense flume]

this is lit

compression is destroying this OOPS LOL

heres a video with less compression (I also compare it to concrete particles)

concrete and asphalt were basically the same before so this is a before and after comparison basically

[tawdry crater]

How do you spawn your particle ?

[wet iris]

on the projectile's Projectile Effects -> SpawnParticleEffect

[fringe comet]

can you make it so if the bullet bounces the effect is smaller? or less smoke?

[dense flume]

I dotn think so

If BI had seperate effects for that maybe

[fringe comet]

unlucky

[dense flume]

i would do that if I could

[dense flume]

😻

it gives a feel of being supressed when inside

seeing dust sweep over the window from the inside from close impacts

should be nice and visible in the video

but also added blood effects :p

[zealous escarp]

rip discord compression

imo the animation for the dust cloud is a little bit too slow but in general looks great

[dense flume]

made water :p

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1228403149501501563/1245071559744422111/ArmaReforgerWorkbenchSteamDiag_xIOgdzcL7E.gif?ex=66576ac0&is=66561940&hm=e4c86590cdbdf6163dd725c1cf3eaca9d5e3fb2da4d12dfe5cd24648f32cac6f&

[dense flume]

also yes guys i do take feedback

incase you guys ever see any problems or really wanna see something done

[amber arrow]

The idea of making water waves longer looks awesome!

[dense flume]

thanks

[raw zephyr]

It’s beautiful I think the only thing I would personally tweak is how white it is, I would make it more grey but looks really good (:

[dense flume]

Already fixed in the next update

Just need to fix some other stuff and ill ship it

[dense flume]

@amber arrow could I ask you how you made caliber depending particle effects? are they simply scaled or a whole new arangement of particles?

[amber arrow]

I just override high caliber bullets prefabs and adds additional (non surface depending) big impact particles

[dense flume]

huh

cuz i find my current effects a bit too big for pistol calibers lmao

[amber arrow]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gfkeXKLV8Xg

[dense flume]

yes thats what wi just saw

[dense flume]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1229430002521473084/1245926114409316362/Arma_Reforger_2024-05-31_04-24-26.mp4?ex=665a869d&is=6659351d&hm=037ecdf55ab614726d9216a30306893ba72f91bb3ed2bea3c25519d561839d2a&

we arma reforgiing

mod is done

on the workshop named refx

still wip but "done"

small clip where the blood puffs are nicely visible

[raw zephyr]

Amazing work on the mod I definitely think it’s one of my favorites now, bravo (:

sehr sehr schön

[dense flume]

thank you lol

[unborn thicket]

hey guys

trying to get my particle to trigger via weight like a mine or proximity when players are in the zone

anyone can help me? think im setting up trigger wrong i have the particlespawnentity then a compennt for pressuretrigger

[unborn thicket]

i need this

[unborn thicket]

Can i give the particle a damage effect?

[hearty mortar]

Whats wrong with Particles with offset greater 100 or lower -100? They just flicker and the particle number changes super fast from 0-1

[silver schooner]

some kind of max/kill height?

[dense flume]

You can has

ReFX on workshop

Also do recommend to your friends KEKW

[cosmic furnace]

are you sure the animation time isn't set to something like 0.001

[unborn thicket]

Currently working on radiation zone to publish for other makers. Then gas chambers either triggered by button (piano or flush) or proximity

I am having issues with script due to skill issue. Adding it into my scenario for a Muslim group with about 300+ players so they’d know for sure

@dense flume hey since you kind did the opposite, How can I turn the smoke particle effect lowered in density, I want it more like a big fog than a gush of heavy smoke

[dense flume]

Lower emission value and make the particles bigger

Id also move the alpha graph around so it begins more transparent and doesnt get as opaque

[hearty mortar]

yea, it works fine at 100 but 101 offset breaks

[cosmic furnace]

i had similar issues when i messed with the animations timing

[dense flume]

id reckon floating point but i dont know

[unborn thicket]

think you could guide me?

[cosmic furnace]

Is it possible to attach a sound with a particle, or would i have to do this via script?

[amber arrow]

yes see how casings are done

[cosmic furnace]

will have a look thank you ❤️

[dense flume]

Particles\Enviroment\Impact_Tiny
Particles\Enviroment\Impact_Tiny\Hit_aramid_enter_tiny_01.ptc
Particles\Enviroment\Impact_Tiny\Hit_asphalt_enter_tiny_01.ptc
Particles\Enviroment\Impact_Tiny\Hit_brick_enter_tiny_01.ptc
Particles\Enviroment\Impact_Tiny\Hit_concrete_enter_tiny_01.ptc
Particles\Enviroment\Impact_Tiny\Hit_default_enter_small_01.ptc
Particles\Enviroment\Impact_Tiny\Hit_default_enter_tiny_01.ptc
Particles\Enviroment\Impact_Tiny\Hit_dirt_enter_tiny_01.ptc
Particles\Enviroment\Impact_Tiny\Hit_fabric_enter_tiny_01.ptc
Particles\Enviroment\Impact_Tiny\Hit_flesh_enter_tiny_01.ptc
Particles\Enviroment\Impact_Tiny\Hit_foliage_conifer_enter_tiny_01.ptc
Particles\Enviroment\Impact_Tiny\Hit_foliage_enter_tiny_01.ptc
Particles\Enviroment\Impact_Tiny\Hit_glass_enter_tiny_01.ptc
Particles\Enviroment\Impact_Tiny\Hit_grass_enter_tiny_01.ptc
Particles\Enviroment\Impact_Tiny\Hit_gravel_enter_tiny_01.ptc
Particles\Enviroment\Impact_Tiny\Hit_metal_enter_small_01.ptc
Particles\Enviroment\Impact_Tiny\Hit_metal_enter_tiny_01.ptc
Particles\Enviroment\Impact_Tiny\Hit_plastic_enter_tiny_01.ptc
Particles\Enviroment\Impact_Tiny\Hit_rubber_enter_tiny_01.ptc
Particles\Enviroment\Impact_Tiny\Hit_sand_enter_tiny_01.ptc
Particles\Enviroment\Impact_Tiny\Hit_snow_enter_tiny_01.ptc
Particles\Enviroment\Impact_Tiny\Hit_soil_enter_tiny_01.ptc
Particles\Enviroment\Impact_Tiny\Hit_stone_enter_tiny_01.ptc
Particles\Enviroment\Impact_Tiny\Hit_water_enter_tiny_01.ptc
Particles\Enviroment\Impact_Tiny\Hit_wood_enter_tiny_01.ptc```

found these in the experimental branch tools...

anyone know what they are used for?

cant find where they are being used

[amber arrow]

Woah, maybe caliber based effects

[dense flume]

Tested already

[amber arrow]

ah no, it is for mlee

[dense flume]

9m doesnt do the job

Ahh

Thank you a bunch

Makes sense too

[amber arrow]

Does someone know how to add more attributes here, so I can make different particles for .gamemat?

[deft forge]

I don't think you can, it's a sealed class.

I think its parameters are not implemented in script

[dense flume]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1229430002521473084/1256020818199056434/ArmaReforgerWorkbenchSteamDiag_04DSqZG7YO.mp4?ex=667f400a&is=667dee8a&hm=9e9eba5b9150058f0af64d18165b5949b395b2b7121f211a281aa9aa2480235f&

banana

[silver schooner]

banana

[vernal finch]

need same with baguettes

[raw zephyr]

One thing I’ve been noticing with your mod with or without mods, sometimes they just completely disappear through random play sessions causing me to have to reinstall, only effects that end up working are the water effects for some reason.

[dense flume]

huh

idk

[urban laurel]

Howdy all, I've filmed a video talking about exactly what Im trying to do just to save a wall of text but will briefly summarise here too:

At the moment I've just been doing animations and not much prefab work, etc. But I was wondering if its possible to A) activate a particle effect during a reload animation, such as for a bolt action rifle or in this case, the empty case of a rocket launcher and B) how accurate can the starting point of particle be? Could I set it up in the case of the rocket launcher to be spawned out of the characters hand?

Any help would be greatly appreciated! 🙂

[amber arrow]

You can make position as accurate as you want, any orientation etc. Not sure how to make particle appear while reloading anim, nut im almost sure that it is possible without scripts

I think you can even attach particle emmiter to exact bone

[restive forge]

@tawdry crater Hi, is SCR_MotorExhaustEffectGeneralComp currently borken? If i add my particles with this comp, i only can see the light reflecting on the vehicle, but no particles itself. If add the effect with SCR_HelicopterEffecrManager, they work fine.

[tawdry crater]

Maybe, just make a report on feedback tracker about it

[chilly canopy]

Any idea if prebaked vdb or more likely alembic caches for VFX will be able to be used in future releases?

[frosty swallow]

@silver schooner do you have a waterfall particle?

oh i found it, searched this discord

[silver schooner]

particles stop rendering once the emitter reaches certain velocity?

also particles set to local space emit in the direction of the parent's movement for some reason

[silver schooner]

also missing billboarding for prefab particles

[bronze barn]

Hello guys. Is it possible to set the air refraction effect on a 2d billboard?

[north forum]

You would need to set the physics stuff in the particle pretty much to 0.0

[tranquil dome]

Hello, please tell me how to attach the sound of an explosion after destroying an object? only with a script or is it possible in another way?

[hazy lynx]

Its configured in one of those components...

[tranquil dome]

Please tell me which ones? I tried a lot and couldn't find how to do it

[amber arrow]

you need to use sound event "SOUND_EXPLOSION" in trigger comp and have an acp file you want in sound comp

[quaint nebula]

Thanks for all your work

[dense flume]

are you using 3d models or are those textures?

because they look very crisp

[silver schooner]

textures, I used them for this weapon and vehicle effects

[dense flume]

WHAT

the way they "fade out" is really cool

instead of just an image getting smaller, the width of each arc gets smaller instead

also wow

quick response time

is it just me or do reforgers effects feel... off

very smooth, but too smooth, ya know?

[silver schooner]

no idea what that means so probably just you

[dense flume]

yeah idk how to describe it

idk i feel like effects dont stay long enough nor do they have alot of volume

its just

[silver schooner]

no clue, make your effects how you want them

[dense flume]

ball of smoke that stays the same size but gradually gets more translucent

thats what explosions feel like for me

in reforger

[dense flume]

i know im planning to like

idk do a pass on every explosion n stuff etc

to make them last longer and "spread" more over time

[silver schooner]

hope you succeed, many folks have tried to make the game better but always made it worse instead

[dense flume]

many folks?

i seriously do not know anyone whose done that 😭

[silver schooner]

as far as reforger goes yes, since there's like 15 modders in this game

[dense flume]

idk ive never seen a mod that makes it worse

any examples?

[silver schooner]

its subjective but in my opinion all of them did

[dense flume]

anyways off to make blastcore reforged :P

[dense flume]

idk what you mean by all of them 😭

i dont see many effects mods in reforger.. at all

all they do is use the stock rpg explosion effect

[silver schooner]

either by making things less realistic or by disregarding performance

[dense flume]

the only mod ive actually seen using different effects is

yours

mine

and rhs

also i wish the particle editor had more features

especially looking at noise

and gpu particles

gpu particles could make sparks and dirt look so much better 😭

and noise too

[silver schooner]

why would they make them look better?

or how rather

[dense flume]

well

ok maybe not so much gpu particles

that would just allow me to add more small debris/dust

[silver schooner]

you mean like prefab particles?

[dense flume]

?

but noise could make smoke, dust and sparks feel more realistic as they dont just "choose" a direction to go and stay on it forever

[dense flume]

wdym

[silver schooner]

particle emitters can spawn prefabs that have a meshobject, you can use it to spawn 3d objects as debris

[dense flume]

no no no i mean gpu particles

like

normal particles are all on your CPU

[silver schooner]

simulation, not rendering, yes

[dense flume]

indeed

however all of that can be too much for the cpu

thats why the game lags n stuff

(plus overdraw

gpu particles offload the instancing to the gpu

[silver schooner]

damn I had no idea

[dense flume]

so they are completely on the gpu

you know squad right

[silver schooner]

that being said more particles does not automatically mean better

[dense flume]

i agree

but they can be sparks n stuff

they can actually like be used where there would actually be alot of "particles" in real life

i know squad uses them pretty nicely

all this falling debris are gpu particles

[silver schooner]

the only advantage is performance

[dense flume]

yeah

i cant be performant when im throwing around 100 of cpu particles for 1 hit effect

i can still be relatively performant when i throw 5 cpu particles and 95 gpu particles

i just think its really cool

i cant have this many sparks for a single explosion

well.. i can..

[silver schooner]

until you get your 15 bajillion gpu particles just do your best

[dense flume]

i do my best already

i think

sadly my best isnt very good :(

but yeah noise in particle movement would actually be fire

[silver schooner]

lack of gpu particles is not responsible for any possible skill issue

[amber arrow]

Thats are volumetric particles I guess. Reforger doesnt support volumetric

[silver schooner]

no way that dust cloud is volumetric lmao

u can see it has no volume

its a texture on a plane

at least the big cloud

[amber arrow]

they will not look better only on gpu, without volumetric effects, but gpu particles support can make possible using hundreds, or even thousands particles at the scene without big performance issues. For example cpu has 12 cores/24 threads, in a ideal world enfusion will use all 24 threads with multithreading for rendering particles, which seems to be ok, but gpu has like 2000~ cores for dealing with it

[amber arrow]

yes, dust cloud is 2d sprite

[silver schooner]

btw the cpu doesnt render the particles, and the multithreaded cores are useless

[amber arrow]

collisions*

sorry

[silver schooner]

but gpu particles will help greatly with things that dont require much simulation

[amber arrow]

like dust, or any

gpu particles will be same as now but without "enable collision" button

[silver schooner]

I think explosions only do 1 decal now

[amber arrow]

Yes, they always was making 1 decal

[silver schooner]

but in any case I would love to see gpu particles even if they were very limited

[amber arrow]

In this message the story was about decals on burnt/exploded vehicles

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e-VQFU2zO1Y

[raw zephyr]

Trying to get the "FlareEffect_40mm_M661_Green.et" to fall. There a flaremovement.ct, and I've played with those values but just stays in the sky. Looked at the ammo how it was built.

What is the trick to effect gravity on an object?

[bronze barn]

Hi guys. Рow to make particles rotate in a circle?

[bleak robin]

Were are you guys learning this stuff for particles I don’t see any tutorials for this ?

[hazy lynx]

Most of us have learned everything the old fashioned way.

[bleak robin]

alrighty then time to learn the HARD way, again YEAHHHH!

[steady mango]

Anyone ever have an issue where particles will not spawn when out of view but when back in view they spawn?

[steady mango]

Resolution is setting UseFrameEvent to true if anyone is searching

[dense flume]

yea

you can have a lot of gpu particles without much slow down

[tawny relic]

Has this been resolved? I've been playing with that component for the last day or two

[restive forge]

Dont know, i written my own Comp. because i cant get it to work

[tawny relic]

hmm Im trying to add a water particle to a boat, I believe Ive bypassed the check for underwater but it's still not showing the water_hydrant.ptc. Figured the component worked fine for vanilla vehicles, so not sure why it doesn't seem to work in this case. Maybe something to do with the stages, IDK... 🤷‍♂️

[restive forge]

i had the same problem with NavalVehicle and the particles.

[tawny relic]

Did you ever file a feedback tracker ticket for that? If not, I suppose I'll make one whenever I get the time.

[restive forge]

Nope, i just written a small component to spawn the particles i need

[flint plinth]

So I just started with particles. I added particle trace effect for missile. Currently it looks like the trail is very short, despite me setting particle lifetime to higher number.
Is this some kind of culling of the particles if missile is far from me?

[silver schooner]

I doubt you are hitting the 10k particles limit are you

[flint plinth]

I've set Max num to 1000, and Birth rate to 150. Even in Particle Editor if I move the emitter far enough it will cull the end of trail

[tawdry crater]

Known issue

[flint plinth]

Ok thanks

[half minnow]

what would be the best way to handle a gas zone particle? Place multiple of the particles across the area, or some other way?

[half minnow]

I need something like the GenericWorldFogEntity, but have it contained to a limited space

[half minnow]

is it possible to do such a thing? Or is there a better way to do so? Fog seems locked behind the engine so I can't really do anything with it

[silver schooner]

I used particles for my spawnable gas clouds

[half minnow]

which mod is this in? GMFX? I wanna see how you arranged it, if that's okay

[silver schooner]

Sure go for it, yes GMFX

[dense flume]

10k particle limit for a 2023 game (if i remember correctly) is CRAZY

[fading cradle]

WATER FALLS A THING ?

[pine fox]

🩸Hey. What would be too much blood in Arma Reforger ?

Like for blood drop effects, hit effects etc. 🩸

[pine fox]

Yes. You can do waterfalls
That’s more a terrain thing

[pine fox]

Anyone ? Guys

[dreamy sinew]

Are you still looking?

[pine fox]

Just a little, wanted to know the limits

[dreamy sinew]

You can look at this mod. Called "Improved Blood Effect"

[pine fox]

Kinda dosent answer my question.
I know how to do it. But I don’t believe that mod is the max limit of gore in the game.

What I’m searching for is the max allowed gore, blood, or even if characters get de limbed after explosions etc.

But appreciate your messages brother 👍🏼😊

[barren hedge]

please don't make brighter muzzle flash in new patch...

[true bear]

Peak particle moment

[half minnow]

how bad is the fps

looks amazing though!

[true bear]

Not even effected

My recording was just lagging because of my ram

I had like 50 things opened

[plush lake]

Are there no tutorials on how to creat your own particals?

[true bear]

I will be creating one soon.

[true bear]

All particle related just to show what’s capable or has been done by myself.

If anyone needs assistance in understanding them and the particle editor just dm me

[plush lake]

Im not sure whats easiest to make, but i really wanna make new explosion effects. But have 0 clue on the parasitical editor. You mentioned you might make a video tutorial. If i could request maybe that for the first tutorial? how to make explosion effects 😄

[true bear]

Dissect vanilla effects to understand it

[plush lake]

I believe it would be great if you could cover the basics of the particle editor, especially since you already seem to have a solid understanding of it. The wiki provides very little information on this topic, so a tutorial would be incredibly helpful. Given your familiarity with the editor and the awesome particles you've created, it would be amazing if you could share a video tutorial on its general usage

[plush lake]

LOL i didnt see it at first but the guy doing looptiloops in a parachute 🤣

[fathom gale]

@true bear hi, let’s say I want to create a particle to create the effect of a rope that’s affected by the player and gravity and wind while a fast rope animation is played to exit a helo - is that possible?

[true bear]

That’s not particles that’s all physics

You realistically can make rope in reforger yes. It would require some heft worky though

To even simulate the moment as a whole

[fathom gale]

But if I want a make believe visual effect to go with the animation - not real physics ?

[true bear]

What effects do you need for a rope… it’s a rope

Particles are not utilized for physics oriented objects like that

[hazy lynx]

I think he wants to fake a rope with particles.

[fathom gale]

Yepp

[fathom gale]

So I have an animation that moves the player from the inside of a helicopter to the floor, I want to cast a fake rope to go with the animation instead of Idk animating a 3d representation of a rope

[true bear]

Yeah regardless particles ain’t the region that would work for this

You could animate rope on vehicle exhaust in blender so input pushes it back

Kinda like how antennas work

[hazy lynx]

Or just create a physical rope

[true bear]

^

[fathom gale]

Got it - was just curious, thanks!

[plush lake]

I've created a sprite sheet for an explosion and then imported in as a material. How would i go about and create an explosion from that? do you have to creat an emitter for each image?

[tawdry shuttle]

Is the vfx in enfusion easy to get the hang of I really just need to do muzzle flashes and stuff

[silver schooner]

Yes

[tawdry shuttle]

alr so i guess ill try it out then

[true bear]

I wouldn’t say easy. You can give a dog a bone but you gotta teach him how to fetch. There’s areas that are more art bent and require a little more tuning to get that crisp effect

[zealous escarp]

it's easy in the sense that you can see how every single vanilla particle effect was made and edit them to do what you want. Not so easy in the sense that the particle editor preview doesn't really do a good job of giving a good sense of scale or how it looks in the heat of battle

[tawdry shuttle]

Yea I didn't know how to do literally anything in there tbh

[true bear]

Different shade options. Also it doesn’t teach you textures and lifetimes

Or any of the properties. If you put someone straight into that they are gonna sit there and play trial and error

This right here took me a bit

[true bear]

not for public release^

[true bear]

https://tenor.com/view/skeleton-shocked-shocking-gif-14682087

[true bear]

What a shocking surprise…

[dim zodiac]

man the possibilities of modding in this game is out of this world, i don't know if i know any game that beats this rnn

[silver schooner]

eh

[true bear]

eh

got fairly close

using all vanilla textures to do what i do im too lazy to make sprites when i have enough samples from bi in wb lol

to be fair the UAZ469 rust is from a lighthouse

[rose elm]

https://tenor.com/view/teen-gohan-ssj2-dragon-ball-z-dbz-gif-17533198

[rose elm]

What is the specific command that calls a particle effect? I'm searching the API documentation but I havent' found it. What I want to do is set up an animation event that calls an emitter, attaches it to a bone, and then deletes it after a certain period of time.

[jovial owl]

I need to do those but with snow

[true bear]

isnt one i just attached a prefab to player upon activation

[bleak idol]

Is this the correct channel to ask about configuring decal behaviour of projectiles?

[rose elm]

I was able to attach one to my weapon using the base slot component

[jovial owl]

is there a way to trigger a particle effect depending on the weather state? I can not seem to figure it out.

[true bear]

Alright so I’m gonna explain something for everyone interest in particles and change your perspective on things

Particles can be used to animate prefabs more so you can animate things in a way to work instead of bringing in animations from blender that being say I wanted an orb to fly around I could just attach everything to a particle emitter. You can literally make scenic cinematic stuff purely from within you just gotta sit there for a few hours and indulge in it.

[true bear]

Teaser that I shouldn’t show you but hey here’s a good example

Wouldn’t advise using (RPL on these objects)

By default all players should see particles regardless but fps does matter

[deep dawn]

Very creative use of the tools. Love it.

[dim zodiac]

nah yall are making me wanna learn how to do particles now. Wtf is this, yall are on steroids 😭

[silver schooner]

This reminds me of something

Dang, over 2 years ago

[jovial owl]

Wow that's loud🤣

Didn't even realize people were talking in that video, guess that's what I get for working while in discord🤦‍♂️

[deep dawn]

You should put it on the workshop. Looks dope!

[jovial owl]

was thinking about making a bunch of environmental particle effects and putting them up. I'm just contrained on time rn and map building

That and I'm still learning how to do them.

[deep dawn]

For sure takes a lot of time.

[tawdry shuttle]

I still haven't figured out the particle system tbh I need to tho cuz I need to make some muzzle flashes for my mod

[true bear]

It’s not easy when you get into the complicated level of things it’s almost like art you gotta perfect it

[true bear]

engine constraints dont stop me

[true bear]

(Wish I could fling some limbs but respecting the ToS I’m gonna avoid dismemberment for the obvious reasons. Little chunks you see are just some decal emats on stone debris tried my best to keep it PG)

visual trick from further away

[urban laurel]

Is dismemberment strictly forbidden?

[deep dawn]

Yes

Somebody did like gib bits that's about as close as you can do i think

[true bear]

yes

[true bear]

you cant have overly gorey images mine is all vanilla blood textures

[marble trellis]

Sounds like the electric traps in cod zambies

[balmy kelp]

does anybody know how do this waterfall effect like seen on this map Ive been messing around with the particle editor and I cant figure it out. unless he is using custom particles

[silver schooner]

It was this probably, the waterfall mod is long dead tho #enfusion_particles message

[balmy kelp]

thats a shame is Papa Ghost making a waterfall mod

I didnt see that clip that looks really good @jovial owl

[neat cobalt]

It’s a shame 😭

[jovial owl]

I can help you sometime today?

Been busy with life stuff and new work contracts so I haven't had enough time for squat lately.

[balmy kelp]

if youre busy I dont want to waste your time but I really hope that does become a mod

[jovial owl]

Nah I'm free in like 4hrs

[jovial owl]

Will be on in a min

[rose elm]

Has anyone figured out how to trigger a particle effect exactly once without it starting/stopping the particle effect entirely?

[true bear]

Yes

Just use a trigger with a warhead

Or if you’re wanting to do just a particle with one carry out turn off repeat in the right tab at the bottom in the P-Editor

[rose elm]

With that second option I wasn't able to trigger it to happen again.

What do you mean by a warhead?

[elder sentinel]

How do I edit these color values?

Double-click or hitting enter doesn't do anything

I mainly just want to make my water materials lighter on color so they're less effect by the sunlight

BC right now it's overly bright

[true bear]

Bottom left

And that’s not the override for them really you wanna change the texture colour itself in its emat

[elder sentinel]

Ah, okay

[rose elm]

Specifically, I'm trying to spawn a magazine prefab for a tactical reload animation. I had it working by starting and stopping the particle, but it doesn't count against the "maximum magazine" correctly and it would just delete the prefab when the next one was spawned. If I didn't do this, it would constantly shit out magazines once the particle emitter was there.

[true bear]

Because you have repeat on

Dm me your PTC file and I’ll look at it when I’m home

[rose elm]

ok

[little scarab]

Guys, is it possible to make a beam from point A to point B via particles?

[silver schooner]

No, particles are not beams

[silver schooner]

Anyone got a tool that can help me translate cone angle to something more sensible like euler angles?

[stray dome]

is it possible to do this in reforger? like make the FX all 2d planes

[silver schooner]

All particles are planes

In Reforger

[silver schooner]

Lol prefab particles still dont billboard

[silver schooner]

Particles are not visible through glass if refraction is enabled

Just spent an hour making a shockwave sphere but I cant use it because Random Issue Number 89354

[true bear]

technically yes

you can create functional beams with them but these arent the same as a laser

[slow cairn]

Any way to have particles affected by wetness?

[silver schooner]

Maybe prefab particles? I did not check tho

[slow cairn]

I mean scripting always works but no, in this case I am trying to make 2d particles not emit when ground is wet

[silver schooner]

Particle emitters can emit prefabs

I think it just uses the meshobject of a prefab

[true bear]

Unfortunately it uses the entire prefab

That including all components especially RPL

Which is bad

[true bear]

What exactly do you mean by this

Like deactivate particles when it rains?

Like say there’s a butterfly flying and it’s raining so he goes away

[slow cairn]

Make dust particles look different when the ground is wet.

[true bear]

You’d need wetness modifiers so a prefab

Because particle emats can’t run the modifier so you’d have to use another class

I’ve done some experimenting and revealed the truth about emats and particles it’s promising to create some unique stuff but the engine doesn’t like it

[slow cairn]

yeah particle emats don't have anything related to that

so do you mean I would have to make a prefab and come up with a scripted solution?

[true bear]

you couldnt script a a 2d emat to be wet i dont think that would work it would just be shiny

[glad lodge]

Can someone help me with creating a partical that has a few different colors? I'm new to this element of the engine

[silver schooner]

color curve of a particle is somewhere near the bottom

[glad lodge]

Dope

Is there a Bohemia tutorial on this so I can make this effect have little to no impact on console?

[silver schooner]

What cpu and gpu do you have?

There are 3 LOD levels for particles so that's the first thing, you probably don't want to play all of the emitters when far away unless your particle system is super simple, the LOD sliders are on the list of emitters on the left

[glad lodge]

I don't know what the Xbox cpu and gpu have. I'm assuming lowest requirements to run arma

Custom AMD Zen 2 8 Cores at 3.6 GHz (3.4 GHz with SMT)

Custom RDNA 2 20 CUs at 1.565 GHz 4.006 TFLOPS

Thats the hardware in a series s

[silver schooner]

I'm asking what cpu and gpu do YOU have

[glad lodge]

5950x and 3080 TI.

[silver schooner]

Okay so if you have say 100 fps and you launch your particle emitter and you drop to 90 fps, the series s will drop from 30 to 28. Obviously this is an estimate.

[glad lodge]

Alright ill keep that in my notes

[silver schooner]

Vanilla effects are usually relatively efficient also

[glad lodge]

I need to make a custom one for this project unfortunately

Well a few custom ones actually

[silver schooner]

Yeah but I mean you can look at vanilla ones for inspiration on number of particles etc

[glad lodge]

Sounds perfect

[silver schooner]

Not possible for particle collisions to be using the collider of the prefab?

[silver schooner]

Sometimes particle effects dont work on client

[quaint zephyr]

Hi! Please tell me how to adjust the height of the smoke?

[proper nymph]

particle lifetime?

[true bear]

Change it from point to ellipse

Change the very top y axis to desired height

Unless you want it as point velocity only changes speed to life times distance end location. And lifetime itself controls the length of the emitter itself which can extend range but it lengthens animations causing a stand still.

Combining velocity and life time can create sling shot effects.

https://tenor.com/view/themoreyouknow-more-know-gif-4483207

Any other issues for anyone in this chat regarding PTC and The particle workspace DM me I’ll be your guide.

[silver schooner]

Does vehicle destruction particle effect not take orientation from the vehicle that spawns it?

[silver schooner]

How do I setup particle collision? The prefab only collides when its origin hits the ground, not the collider

[tawdry shuttle]

Anyone here able to help me make custom muzzle flashes and some other things possibly?

[small hinge]

Is it possible to make a particle effect attached to a certain point/bone of an ia character?

[silver schooner]

Hierarchy component alone should handle it I suppose

[ancient wedge]

can i emmit real projectiles with collision trigger from particle emmiter?

[silver schooner]

nuh uh

game master fx has a projectile emitter entity

[true bear]

This just spits a tracer prefab

[true bear]

What are you trying to achieve entirely I’ll see what’s feasible

Like do you want it to fire bullets?

That actually smack people

[ancient wedge]

yep

[silver schooner]

so for example you can spawn it and tell it to emit the projectile you want with a rate and cone angle

the cluster bomb uses it to fake the bomblets lol

if you want to do it without using dependencies then you'd have to script it

that being said I wonder what happens if you use a prefab of the emitter inside a particle system

[silver schooner]

If you are going to ping me to correct me about my own mod at least make sure you got the correct information. I think you confused game master fx with bacon photo props which has a tracer emitter.

[silver schooner]

there are those blast trigger prefabs I wonder how those work, maybe you could use those as base to simulate a projectile that you can use in the emitter without use of dependencies, but the randomness in the spread may not be deterministic in multiplayer

[true bear]

Since when did GMFX have a bullet emitter?

[remote fox]

Yo, anybody who knows how to make particles only play in nighttime? Maybe by script?

[true bear]

yes

i have particles based on weather, and dynamic weather that actually kills/harms people i.e EVR Storm, Acid Rain.

im sure we can just get the in game time stamp and play them. or better yet bohemia has this for the moths on lamps already though im unsure its just by night and not just the light brightness

[remote fox]

Thats pretty sick, cool it can harm ppl lol
Oh i see, did you use something based on the moth to make this or?

Trying to add northern lights to my snow map, but it shows at daytime, really annoying and tried making a script but fuck, nothing works

[true bear]

Nah

[true bear]

Don’t use particles for that

Use PPE

just like how rain works

Or you could just make a map dome

With an animated texture

cough Namalsk Lantia*

[silver schooner]

Just script an emitter entity that plays/pauses based on world time

There is even a signal I think with world time

Dont remember

Without scripting it is quite difficult to implement such features, you can use AI to help you out a bit and as long as you dont entirely rely on it it should be fine (it works best when you already know programming otherwise you dont know where it does bad things and are more susceptible to releasing bad slop code)

[true bear]

What I just told him…

[silver schooner]

Actually now that I think of it there is an effects component that can pipe a signal into particle emitter's birth rate in vanilla, I've used it before to add effects to vehicle engines

If there is a signal that increases at night then it can be done without any coding

Lol it can't use global signals

Disappointing

[remote fox]

Ill look into that thanks

Well idk scripting, so might be on deep water here lol

[remote fox]

Damn, was hoping I could avoid scripting but ill see if I can find a workaround - thanks for the help tho

[silver schooner]

Yeah there is a TimeOfDay signal that goes between 0 - 1 (midnight - midnight)

but it's a global signal and doesnt work in the effects manager

[true bear]

Go with bacons signal setup

Better option

[remote fox]

Sad 😪
Imma try remixing some texture and see if I can make it only emit light so it can only be seen on night times

He says it wont work because its a global signal

[silver schooner]

To be fair

If you have a particle emitter

With emission time set to uh

However long the day takes

Wait no people can add a time multiplier nvm

This is so unnecessarily complicated

[silver schooner]

Maybe you can do something with the ambient insects component, they have night time curves, but it seems like a hassle

[remote fox]

Lol its really is
But I found a solution, adjusted the textures to really low black white colors and added it as a alpha channel making it nearly invisible during daytime and then turned up the emissive LV setting so it is visable at night - works pretty well

[silver schooner]

Fair

[remote fox]

just means its running constantly, so less performance friendly i guess - but appreciate the help

[silver schooner]

Eh it depends on how many particles and what size they are

And distance to camera

Disable all shadows on them too

[wooden copper]

Remind me to put shadows on tracers when I start doing weapons 👍

[silver schooner]

Why are prefab particles not taking angles from the emitter offset angles omg

[small hinge]

Soooooooooooooi need help i guess, first i would love to underrstand why i can still see the rectangle of the textures of the smokes(looks kinda bad), second i would like to understand how can i position better the effect that follows my creature, third im trying to achive this typ eof effect where the smoke follows the creature but at the same time i dont want to stay persistent forever, but fade away after a while (obv for performance and gameplay) Anyone can help? Im still new with the particle effect, and sadly other than the wiki i didnt find the video bootcamp that maybe could help out a little bit. Thanks for everyone

[hoary obsidian]

Ok that's cool even if it's scuffed

[true bear]

Dms

I’ll take care of whatever needs to be done

[tardy needle]

I’m new here and want to know what improvements Enfusion’s particle system has compared to Arma 3’s. Does it still use sprites, or has it adopted new technologies like Volumetric Smoke? Is there any official webpage introducing this? I couldn’t find one.🤔

[true bear]

Volumetric what’s that? Jk

Unfortunately no it still uses sprites

As far as 3D particles go no

We have prefabs we can have as particles but it’s not as great as having actual full fledged particles that can fill volume

[tardy needle]

"I noticed that, for example, the cruise missile explosion effect made by Red Hammer has a very realistic fireball, while the surrounding smoke clearly looks like sprites. Is the flame effect also made of sprites? But it feels much better than the flames in Arma 3.

[true bear]

Yes

Probably a combined amount of them and some other stuff.

I use EmberGen if I do any custom stuff.

Tbh with you I sample what BI provides and make art out of that

I am an enjoyer of using what we have

[tardy needle]

Also, I want to know if there is currently any API documentation for the particle system similar to what is introduced in the Arma 3 documentation. I couldn’t find any. Or does Enfusion now completely rely on visual tools to create particles without using code?

[true bear]

Likely on the BIS

The wiki

[true bear]

You can use code

Files are .PTC within Enfusion

It’s not exactly complex. But it’s simple. Tbh there is no huge difference between it just more versatility

And obviously different engines

Enfusion is very lack luster for particles compared to unreal however for what the game is it works just fine we don’t need no fancy fancy

[tardy needle]

I found this page https://community.bistudio.com/wikidata/external-data/arma-reforger/ArmaReforgerScriptAPIPublic/interfaceSpawnParticleEffect.html but it’s different from the original Arma 3 particle system documentation. There are no usage examples at all, and I don’t know where to start. Are there any articles with code usage examples?

[true bear]

What are you trying to do exactly?

Or would like to do

[tardy needle]

I agree, based on the particle effects I’ve seen so far, they are already good enough.

[true bear]

I mean so far so good I’ve done quite a bit of work with it so far

[tardy needle]

I want to find a way to bring the particle effects I made in Arma 3 over to Reforger, of course adapting them to Enfusion script code. But it’s just an idea—I need to figure out if it’s feasible.

[true bear]

Mmmmm the sprites would be fine. I would see if maybe as a last resort chat GPT can convert your particles into the enfusion PTC setup

That would probably be the most efficient way I haven’t tried to transfer anything over by scratch

What kind of particles did you work on or effects?

Id say start with opening A3s in a text editor and looking at it and comparing it to ARF

Bruh

I think you should have an easier time here then

[tardy needle]

Anyway, I know the official has provided many Enfusion tutorial videos. Could you give me a link to one of the main videos that introduces the particle system? I haven’t had time to watch them all yet.

[true bear]

Tbh with you I don’t think there is one. I learned it independently with no help

I was personally going to make one. But my audio over recordings is garbo

[tardy needle]

You should make a video, man. I think everyone on this channel would want a tutorial like that. The new development tools in Reforger are way too complex—it’s like learning an engine like Unreal. Having an authoritative tutorial video could save beginners a lot of time.

[true bear]

It would i just need my audio to sort itself out

[tardy needle]

OK, I got to go. Looking forward to your video!

[silver schooner]

Will particles not rendering behind glass be fixed in reforger or is it more an arma 4 thing?

[true bear]

It’s an engine rendering thing

Likely not

[true bear]

Did these before work today

Screen lasts a minute

May make it significantly less like 45-50

But it should fade enough to be almost gone by 45

Particle effects also make for some good photos

[mint night]

Oh shit that is SICK. Are there any tutorials/bootcamp vids to make something similar?

[true bear]

No but I’ll have stuff soon

[mint night]

Ok thank you. this looks amazing

[small hinge]

How can i change this?

[silver schooner]

bottom left, switch tab to emitter curves

[small hinge]

thanks

[small hinge]

So im working on a vfx for a portal and i was wondering since its a static mesh, i noticed that obv as normally it should be the particle effect follows my character, but i was wondering if its possible to make it "static oriented" otherwise as you will see in the video will look rly strange to see the effect rotating around thanks

[silver schooner]

there are some billboard controls in the particle editor

[small hinge]

thanks, didnt know the word of it

[silver schooner]

something liek this would be cool with a rendertarget and a different world on the other side

[small hinge]

no idea what is a rendertarget, but the world thing could be insane, and probably with a custom scenario you could do that already easly, what would be great is that if you were able to do it in all types of scenario with just a huge prefab i would say.

[silver schooner]

fake world I mean, the game would probably crash 5 different times if you tried to make people able to cross into the world

[true bear]

Get a material set it to PBRGlass fill it out like you would normally a glass texture and go to height map add your world image and add chromatic intensity/aberration and then you have a fake world display

Use that as particle prefab or object prefab to create the illusion

Or I’ll just make one and send it here i think I’ll do just that

Easier then walking you through it

@small hinge

This is the least expensive way of creating the illusion of a portal

Anything else would be creating a fake render instance.

I do warn you if you stare at this to long it will hurt your brain.

[true bear]

this should help you

[small hinge]

Thanks mate, once I’m home today I’ll check it out 🤙

[true bear]

The emitters are set up almost the same way I use for SRF for my portal but you can play around with it. As far as that emat goes to you can play around with the values

[amber arrow]

I think explosion blast trigger doesnt triggers on contact with vehicle, it seems that blast trigger doesnt interact with any dynamic object? And "particle oriented" still doesnt work(

[true bear]

You think or know. Otherwise any HE or projectile effect would not work in game

[amber arrow]

I know it, here is video example (Metal blast exaggerated for showcase), - effect on btr/lav is Explosion_VOG25.ptc which is spawning always and contains blast triggers spawn, and no any blast effect is visible, you can see how blast metal looks on building I was shooting

and you can see here that particle oriented doesnt works (blast effect are always spawns upwards), I made a ticket for this like a year ago

[silver schooner]

turn on explosion debug, blast (or impulse?) is yellow

[amber arrow]

Where I can find explosion debug in menu?

[silver schooner]

gamecode > damage > explosion > explosion diag something like that

[amber arrow]

Thanks, but it doesnt show any needed info

I think for some reason blast_trigger doesnt interact with dynamic objects

Here you can see that blast trigger is spawning and have collision with BTR but still doesnt spawn blast effect

[amber arrow]

the white sphere is blast trigger

Woah I think I found what problem was, blast triggers doesnt have collision with vehicles/dynamic objects

here you can see sphere (blast trigger) with a long life time and it passed thru btr without collision and spawning effect and it spawn effect of dirt blast under btr

[true bear]

Traceless explosions have been an issue recently

Also @amber arrow welcome back

Did not know this was you until your name changed

The blast triggers not having collision is a bi product of what I said above. The biggest issue overall right now and it sucks for people who make armored vics. Have you gotten around to finding out 40mm goes right through the LAV lol

The entire crew is not protected. And one RPG will obliterate it and its crew

There is a mod that takes corrective measures by fixing this but I do not know the extent that it does or the innards of it

[silver schooner]

arent those blast triggers visuals only?

[true bear]

Triggers are spacial entity queries, I’m assuming the blast triggers create the explosion when collision is detected when it makes contact with an entity (point of collision) within the sphere whenever it makes contact and inserts the blast damage/effect however I think in this case and especially vehicles this is happening on the other side of the collider because of the pass through.

The same logic of using triggers is applied to the rotor was trigger when a heli is flying over the ground

Same thing different output/reason

[amber arrow]

hmm strange