enfusion_model

[solemn goblet]

You can use my weightref.blend for this, that's what I cut it down for is just clothing.

[mortal sentinel]

oh I have the weightref, I think it was you who linked it then, I'll check it again. My pants seem to have some weight paints, but I'll redo it I guess, as something's missing

[solemn goblet]

Yeah, (save first) clear those weights out and use the method in the vid. Someone tried that method and it worked for them 🤷

[mortal sentinel]

alright, lemme see if it works for me

[daring condor]

for a balaklava like 5k or 10k absolute max tbh

probably a lot less

[mortal sentinel]

100k for jackets, pants?

[daring condor]

whats the weight ref say?

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/693045391842869279/977738555210211368/unknown.png?width=720&height=471

i think this guy is around 30k in total

from simcardo

sus and snus are porting their stuff to refrogger

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/693045391842869279/978578222843297822/unknown.png?width=616&height=702

this is like 18k according to simcardo

with polycount its always the same answer really, as low as possible

nvm

its 9k

[dapper oar]

you can look at the BI stuff in the workbench to get vertice & face counts for any type of mesh to use as a guideline for Arma Reforger, for example:
the Jacket_M70_01.xob LOD0 is 11003 verts, 17090 Faces.
the Pants_M70_01.xob LOD0 is 6132 verts, 7952 faces.
Hat_knitted_01.xob LOD0 is 1272 verts, 2304 faces.

The stuff you are trying to import is way too high/mid-poly tbh.

[mortal sentinel]

that's some nice looking stuff

[daring condor]

the name of the game is retopo

[mortal sentinel]

oh yea, then I have way too many vertices

[daring condor]

count tris not verts tbh

[dapper oar]

I'd pay attention to the face counts more than the vertices

[daring condor]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CuQzPDs99yM

[solemn goblet]

I think Enfusion bases vertices on UV seams and it can add up to weird numbers not shown in the 3D software.

[daring condor]

if you are in blender look at tris not faces

blender counts ngons and quads as a single face

[dapper oar]

I use 3dsMax 😉

[daring condor]

ye hence i didnt ping you :P

[solemn goblet]

3DS Max 🤮

[daring condor]

https://github.com/CGCookie/retopoflow

and get retopoflow from here

they also sell it for 80 bucks

but you can get it for free on their github

they just dont advertise it

[mortal sentinel]

nice

btw any point keeping weight paints that pants probably don't need or doesn't matter? Like I have weight paints transferred for chest etc, but don't really need them for pants

if it doesn't affect anything I can keep them

[solemn goblet]

If they are blue in Blender, no bone can influence them

The bones attached to a non-weighted armature don't do anything. Some engines delete them on import even.

[mortal sentinel]

oh ok, I'll leave them be then

[solemn goblet]

Yeah, I know all bohemia assets keep the entire skeleton. I don't think they keep all the weights though.

[mortal sentinel]

I still have the invisible pants issue, maybe something with the model, not sure

I think it's the model or something, the pants are in two parts - front and back, I can see the front from the outside, but the back only from the inside

[solemn goblet]

Oh haha

ctrl N in blender while in edit mode

You might even try alt N > reset normal vectors

[mortal sentinel]

alt n - reset vectors for me, I'll try to reimport into workbench now

nah, didn't help

something about flipping normals? I think I've heard this in a tutorial

ok, this is it https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZpK7To-YU4c&ab_channel=BuvesaGameDevelopment

same problem as me, I might have accidentally made half of the pants flipped

[solemn goblet]

Yep, ctrl n should flip that

If it's being particularly stubborn you have to toggle the little checkbox lower left with only the inverted ones selected.

[mortal sentinel]

nice, also tried this "recalculate outside" which completely fixed it in blender, have to check workbench though

well, gg, thanks guys

now I can think about actually making something proper, it's not too bad if I know all the steps now to get something wearable in the game

[solemn goblet]

It kinda looks weird. Is it vinyl?

[mortal sentinel]

I dunno, has a weird shine

I didn't add any textures or anything, just changed the color in workbench

also the game doesn't really like those wrinkles I guess, if I kneel they look weird around the knee and the butt

but ok, I'll maybe try to make some real military clothes and learn about retopology and see how that works out then

[daring condor]

keep in mind that even if you go for a cloth sim workflow MD or whatever else you use is not the only step in asset creation

you should consider adjusting some thing here and there with a sculpting tool to give it a bit more flair

also dont consider retopo just something to get out of the way, it is kind of one of the most important steps and will determine if you will have a good time baking and weighting

[mortal sentinel]

I did notice I could use some small fixups in blender, some vertices were missing etc., I'll do that for the real model.

About retopo I don't know much yet, just about that high res to low res baking stuff

but do I really need to worry about weight painting if those weights can simply be transferred from a sample character?

[frank robin]

vergy this looks great. If you are adding american style buildings in a pack it would be awesome if you could do a middle/highschool next and maybe an american style gas station. Like a big one with tons of shelves and stuff inside.

i have a great map im working on and if you need any american building suggestions just @ me

[calm rune]

This might be a problem. If this is the case then there will be a lot of clipping on models.

[tidal latch]

There already is - even with vanilla content. We are aware of that but personally I don't details how it is planned to be solved

[daring condor]

deformation lattices 😊

[willow sage]

simcardo is still alive?

[daring condor]

hes been making stuff ye

works with ifa44

although he does not work on enfusion

his computer is not up to the task

[willow sage]

please greet him from me

[tacit eagle]

I get this error message: RESOURCES (W): Invalid collider 'UCL_Cylinder_01'. Export skipped

It is just a cylinder

https://imgur.com/IBOChJI

Anyone have an idea?

[karmic adder]

How easy is it to replace / reimport a mesh once it is already an entity / placed in the world?

[shell hedge]

relatively easy, click reimport button

[karmic adder]

Meaning there are no issues if I'm not entirely happy with an asset, I can just click reimport and all the prefabs and worlds will get updated when loaded the next time?

[shell hedge]

pretty much, I use the button 50 times per project

[karmic adder]

Alright, thanks

[unkempt grail]

this may not be the best way to do things (for versioning and stuff) but if I'm working on something and I'm exporting from blender with small changes, I'll drop straight into the asset folder and replace (while workbench is running), workbench automatically reimports, I simply hit play on the world editor to see the changes instantly

[last hill]

Personally if you had morphing available with settings built in the prefab to adjust for heads, or alternatively allow head meshes to be selected and have slight variations on the model itself (more size of file due to duplicated meshes) I think it would be fine.

Morphing might not be doable on Enfusion, don't know its limitations

[opal moat]

More of a blender related question but I thought I'd ask it here

Anyone know if jmesh circular array is broken?

I keep getting this problem

Instead of making a normal sized copy of the object in a circle it creates a huge copy of it above it.

[solemn goblet]

There's a version of circle array that works pretty good in hardops I'd reccomend

[lethal frigate]

damn i wish we could import models from sketchup i made this model with full interior

im willing to give the model to anyone who whants to try opening it in 3ds and finishing it for the game.

[dapper oar]

honestly it would likely be faster remaking it from scratch than trying to fix a sketchup model into a game-ready state.

[lethal frigate]

i belive that they know to break up when opened into 3ds and other programs , but if someone wants to try no problem

this one i paid alot of atention to inverted faces cuz sketchup likes to do that

so every face is facing right way

[dapper oar]

you should learn blender, its free and there's plenty of guides kicking around.

[lethal frigate]

ik but its just to much to learn i tried and controls are all strange to me

i would need to learn that for a month to be able to make a model nicely

[dapper oar]

nobody expect you to know everyting as soon as you start it, break it up, an hour or so each evening and you'd be up and running in no time 🙂

[lethal frigate]

ill have to give it a go

but yeah if anyone wants this here you go.

[delicate condor]

Learning Blender will be worth the time investment

modding isnt going anywhere so there is no rush

[shell hedge]

it's worth the time investment if one building isnt the only thing you'll model

[broken grove]

Hi guys, EBT's Material Preview feature documentation is up https://community.bistudio.com/wiki/Arma_Reforger:Enfusion_Blender_Tools:_Materials_Preview

[solemn goblet]

Just in time for my land rover, huzzah 🥳

[solemn goblet]

So Miro, just to confirm:

Materials Preview feature can only import materials/textures from within your own addon (expects source textures to be in PNG, TIFF... format), in other words you cannot import materials inherited from Vanilla Reforger.

Does this mean I cannot preview textures already within Enfusion (such as the various alphas that come in _shareddata)?

Lower down it says this:

User has to use only textures from one of the addon folders defined in Enfusion Tools preferences, in other words, texture must be already registered (have meta file).

But I'm still not certain if that means I can preview these within Blender. Being able to preview those alphas within Blender is very important to me, as you can imagine haha.

[broken grove]

Does this mean I cannot preview textures already within Enfusion (such as the various alphas that come in _shareddata)?
That's correct unfortunately, we had a solution for community, where textures from shared data folder were part of data.zip package, but because of licensing issues we had to cancel it

But I'm still not certain if that means I can preview these within Blender. Being able to preview those alphas within Blender is very important to me, as you can imagine haha.
It's also stated somewhere in the doc that Blender can only load PNG/Tiff(source textures) in opposite to EDDS(runtime texture), so that's why Vanilla Reforger textures can't be loaded(they are in EDDS format)

[solemn goblet]

Was the solution by any chance watermarked and compressed? Even that would 100% help me as the modder do what I want to do

For the low low price of maybe an extra few mb, editor versions of each texture with correct defines would go a long way, even if they were 512x512 and watermarked to hell 😄

[broken grove]

Yes textures were watermarked and downscaled to half, I spent few weeks to support having these shared textures(automated pipeline + support in EBT) because I knew it'd help you a lot guys, as it was clear to me that you'll want to use Vanilla Reforger textures as well... therefore I'm quite sad that this didn't happen... on the other I'm glad that you expressed a need for them, as now I have strong argument for further internal discussion 😉

[magic rock]

hi i'm working on a scope, took glass and pip LOD from sample, made a prefab just making sure everything works, but i have a problem and i don't understand why. When i look up or down it's fine but looking ahead is causing this (screen) somebody know how to fix this?

[solemn goblet]

Here is a harsh truth maybe you can use as an argument: Modders can view these textures within the tools already. They are at least watermarked. To say nobody EVER will screenshot them (despite the watermark) and crop them for their own visualization aid is silly. All we as modders need to benefit greatly is a Mip 2 or 3 watermarked to aid in visualization for the 'final product' otherwise we are making PBRMulti from scratch or worse, we are importing and exporting a lot (essentially flying blind) with the current vanilla textures. You don't even need to go full Valve to do this, it can still be safe in-house and licensed elsewhere as draconic as the bureaucracy deems necessary 😆 .

Anyway, thank you so much Miro for taking the time to answer my questions and I hope you convince those in charge of this decision ❤️

[calm rune]

You'd be surprised how much you can learn even if you dedicate just 30 minutes a day to it.

[unkempt grail]

This
I had barely opened blender before a couple of weeks ago.
But have put my own stuff in the game
And I'm an idiot who's too stubborn to watch tutorials
(I still haven't fully worked out textures by randomly pressing buttons yet)

[daring condor]

i would not texture in blender

its absolutely doable and they are improving that aspect of the software a lot now

but youd probably be better of with armory paint or substance if you can get a student license/ have the money for that

[tacit eagle]

Asking this in #enfusion_model since you guys probably know more than #enfusion_terrain

I wanna have a colored light **(IMG 1) **in my map but every time I press 'play' the light's emissive color goes back to the default color [orange] (IMG 2)
I tried creating a new material and it seems like everything stays the same (alpha texture, normals, other settings) except the emissive color

Goes back to default

Can I duplicate the prop somehow? What can I do? Any ideas?

[simple meteor]

Try inherit prefab in addon

I think you edit the entity ?

[prisma delta]

which model Land Rover are you working on

[solemn goblet]

This one, I think it's the 110 and due to the modular method of my design process the 90 as well. 1989 era I hope.

[prisma delta]

alright sweet, that looks great. I really like the tire tread

[solemn goblet]

Cheers yeah. Trying to stick to the reference as much as I can.

[eager hill]

Still a lot left to do but it slowly begins to look like it should

[bright raft]

On the part facing the player, shouldn't there be L3 EOTech?

[eager hill]

Wdym? That's the photo I based it on

[bright raft]

Nvm, I found reference with both logos visible there. I meant this part:

[eager hill]

Maybe it depends on the version of that sight, there is way too many of them

[daring condor]

you lose points for doing real markings and not putting in something stupid or funny

[bright raft]

I'd go for EMOtech

[daring condor]

i mainly meant the laser sticker

but yeah with the company too

why give someone you are not getting payed by advertisement?

[eager hill]

I can do a custom sticker tomorrow, not a problem

[daring condor]

ah dont worry

its your project

this is just my personal opinion

its also always a good way to insert a watermark into your asset fwiw

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/732633684292665456/956914809524350996/unknown.png?width=720&height=269

raelly old model i just slapped some paint onto

dont judge me for it not looking too great

changed the company name here for the mod name

[eager hill]

Good idea, I'll work on that

[simple meteor]

this part doesn't work https://community.bistudio.com/wiki/File:armareforger-new-car-comparments.gif

I've a forbidden sign

[opal moat]

Working on a Tokarev

[lament solar]

Yo me too

TT-M48

Hungarian version

[sly bridge]

@light lynx this isn’t a request channel. Want something done, do it on your own

[light lynx]

discusion about anything related to model creation. Didnt know it was wrong to throw suggestions out

[bright raft]

Is it ok to post WIP models here tho or should I go in enf_showroom?

[sly bridge]

it isn’t model related, emphasis on makers

[sly bridge]

sure, showroom is basically to place to show off your creations, be it whatever mod type

[daring condor]

Nice tetekas

FIA really needs a more unique arsenal

[opal moat]

Niiice. How did you do the ribbing for the contact points?

[hoary herald]

80s navy seal helmet inbound

[daring condor]

Honestly, just do loopcuts, checker deselect and scale along the x axis

Then adjust for the hight of the inset

Also scale the insets along individual origins on the y-axis

Alternatively do a Boolean array and fix geo

[lament solar]

I just did booleans then cleaned up the mesh... kinda. But it's a high poly so it doesn't matter too much if I have some ngons

[daring condor]

Ngons on flat surfaces don't matter in general

[lament solar]

yes

[shell hedge]

ngons are based

[bright raft]

Amazing. How long did it take you?

[sand pagoda]

a lot

something around 6 months in total

but not every day and not 8 hours a day

[bright raft]

Looks really good. Can't wait to see it in-game

[sharp mist]

Hello, I am making a truck, and i have the base, and a additional part which i want to put on the truck. How do i make this part apply geometry to the rest of the truck, cause when i merge these two into one, and make a complete truck out of them, the only geometry that truck has is the base trucks geometry, not taking in the equation the added part.

[fast notch]

why do some parts of the model disappear when importing?

[lament solar]

Looks like flipped normals

[fast notch]

okay...how to fix it?

[lament solar]

Well you can either recalculate it using blender or manually flip normals if that doesn't work

I'm used to blender 2.79 and that had a handy toolbar on the left which is missing from the later versions so I don't know where these options are

[hidden yarrow]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=clzstqtN6YQ&ab_channel=BlenderBaseCamp

[lament solar]

found it

[hidden yarrow]

you should probably watch that video

[lament solar]

Me?

[hidden yarrow]

oh sorry no collectors lol

[fast notch]

thanks <З

[bright raft]

WIP

[solemn goblet]

Were you the fella guy using Hopscutter?

[calm rune]

I see what you did there 😏 hopscutter

[solemn goblet]

Lol yeah that's what people call it https://twitter.com/hopscutter even it calls itself that

[bright raft]

Yeah, that's me 😃

But to be honest I mainly use it for bevel

[wise karma]

Not sure what's the best channel to be posting this, but looking for some help with setting up a custom tree's wind. Local branch length controls the sway of individual leaves, but on my custom tree it does nothing.

[slim silo]

Trees in game have the polyplane emat for their wind settings, I think it’s different from a typical bcr/nmo material

Also it could be (if a treeIt tree) that the branches for palms are actually stems

[wise karma]

It is tree.it but I've set up the lod's, colliders and meshes as they should be (my xob looks practically identical to the sample I was using).
And by using their own polyplane emat I assume you mean the material class matPBRTreeCrown for elaves? Sample was using that so I am too, that's how I got these wind settings to show.

[magic rock]

Does sombody know how to make pistol slider work in reforger? i imported the model, assigned to Armature in blender but in game slider doesn't move

[hoary herald]

80s seal helmet

will make variants with all the attachments etc of course

[pliant bolt]

Looks really good, I just can't get over the fact they actually used skateboarding helmets

[hoary herald]

i mean, it kinda makes sense so they could customize it

at the time the helmets were not as modular as they are now

but even then, bump helmets are still used today

[pliant bolt]

Ah not too familiar with that stuff tbh

[hoary herald]

hell... working with a lot of SOF elements IRL you would be surprised how many guys just opt not to wear a helmet at all

[pliant bolt]

Fair enough haha

[fathom bolt]

why i have this message when i try to import my model in the workbench: Non orthogonal transformation on collider 'UTM_Weapon'

[void field]

Sorry if this has been asked a million times before, but when creating a model / mesh, is it just as simple as importing it into the new tooling? How is collision handled? I've been stuck in Unreal for a while now, so I'm real use to exporting to FBX and importing the mesh and away I go. Keen to see what the new tooling can do.

[hoary herald]

its similar to unreal workflows tbh

you do have to add in colliders but other than that its super intuitive coming from UE4

[void field]

That's actually kinda nice

Do I have to model the collision?

[sly bridge]

yes

ish

also main difference from ue is that you also need to make the necessary LODs

[void field]

I see

Thanks very much

[leaden chasm]

where did you get tree sample?

[wise karma]

All of the trees are available, just find them in ArmaReforger>Assets>Vegetation>Tree>Species
Open up it's .xob and you can see everything about how its setup.
I also realised my issue was purely with the model, using another tree with flat planes for its leaves worked perfectly fine. Custom trees are super easy to setup.

[leaden chasm]

Ah, i see. I suspect it has something to do with specific naming of the model's components in order for matPBRTreeCrown to work properly. Can't wait for the docs on that matter.

Or we need a proper "source" sample.

[hoary herald]

got some balaclava action going on this puppy

[wise karma]

For me it was nothing about naming, but using a 'better' model. Got it working fine and so did another bloke I was discussing it with.

[leaden chasm]

What was "better" about that model?

[wise karma]

Gum leaves work fine, and are just a few tri's making a flat face. Palm leaf is an actual shape, and not with great topo, for each leaf

[leaden chasm]

and you say branch wind works fine?

[wise karma]

For the gum leaves yes.

[leaden chasm]

hmm

[wise karma]

I'll correct myself here, managed to get that original palm leaf working without issue and it's all good now. So it was absolutely unrelated to materials.

[leaden chasm]

What was the issue?

[shell hedge]

how many faces do the palm trees have

[wise karma]

I'm not particularly happy with the work around I ended up with because I don't see how it should have changed anything, so I'm pretty sure the issue I was having was rather edge case.

[wise karma]

Very similar to the games own trees, both overall and for the leaf materials specifically. I had a gumtree model that worked without fault from the beginning and it had more than the palm.

[shell hedge]

makes me wanna fire up speedtree and waste the entire evening

[wise karma]

Very simple process to get the trees ingame, just had that weird problem with my palm tree models that never happened to the gum but works fine now

[shell hedge]

nice

you gonna do more exotic vegetation?

I wanna do some exotic surface materials and maybe some rocks at some point

or maybe I should say tropical

refresh my procedural rock skillz

[wise karma]

I'll make whatever's needed/wanted, getting the model is the hardest bit but just spending a bit more time learning the software and that shouldn't be too much of an issue.
These are for a specific real-world map that I'll be making more vegetation for, but when I make enough I'll push out a pack of them to the workshop like you did the sand/track objects

[shell hedge]

actually I was working on a strelitzia for a different project a few weeks ago maybe I can bring that in at some point

one thing I would love to do first though is reskin the OG trees for winter

[wise karma]

I guess I'll be making varying Aussie vegetation to start with

[wise karma]

Easy to do, just have to duplicate the trees xob and open its materials, then swap out the material maps for your own

[shell hedge]

one issue I ran into with lack of texture export is the compression really ruins it because then after import the texture is effectively compressed twice

I have some real nice procedural snowfall shaders I could apply to any texture

but the source texture needs to be uncompressed otherwise its just squares

[wise karma]

Oh yeah true, completely forgot about that

[shell hedge]

maybe I can run some AI denoising models over it but it will be lame anyway

taking screenshots of the texture viewer is big sad also

[leaden chasm]

So what was the issue?

[slim silo]

Getting palm tree to react to the wind setting

[leaden chasm]

no, i mean what was fixed to get them work correctly

[chilly dragon]

I believe it was to import the mesh of the broken tree into a duplicate of one that works and then deleting the mesh of the one that works. After that just import it into enfusion

[leaden chasm]

that is some esoteric shit, as usual

[chilly dragon]

Most bonk ass solution but it worked for Cammando

[dull yew]

is this in enfusion?

[hoary herald]

The left yes. Yhe right is a photo

[shell hedge]

anyone working on some SMGs?

I like SMGs

[last hill]

Smg's might be a bit more difficult as new animations would also need to be made due to the smaller stature and mag wells etc needing to be made up from scratch. That said, I am sure someone would be working on some kind of smg.

[daring condor]

Just make an AK-47

It's an SMG

[frank robin]

we need mp5 , or one of those sick CMMG banshees in 10mm

[sly bridge]

@frank robin + @shell hedge - not really a request channel

[frank robin]

wasnt a request

[sly bridge]

ak-47 wasn’t actually fielded in great numbers, and was soonish replaced by akm

[daring condor]

Am aware

[sly bridge]

so then, are you making such a weapon

[daring condor]

But hey it was an SMG (doctrinally)

And it can reuse the ak-74 anims

[sly bridge]

anything shooting 7.62x39 couldn’t be a smg :)))

[daring condor]

Doctrine > design

It was designed and fielded to fill the SMG role

Soviet army referred to it as an SMG

It's an SMG

[tacit eagle]

It’s an assault rifle

[solemn goblet]

what about an ak74u, an assault rifle or SMG?

[delicate condor]

Does not matter. Feel free to make any, all or none of them.

stick goes boom boom.

#offtopic_weapons is the place to discuss the finer points of weapon definitions

[stoic heron]

need help

cant fix it

[woeful canyon]

Its an SMG :)

[tacit eagle]

You spelt assault rifle wrong.

[woeful canyon]

Its an SMG 🙂

[solemn goblet]

I think metal game.mat is the parent to metal_3mm.gamemat etc

The idea being you use one of the various children from that base instead of the base itself I think

[tacit eagle]

You actually think you are so quirky and smart when in fact you are a 🤡

[mental onyx]

I think You're both clowns for discussing this in a model making channel.

[tidal latch]

You need to assign proper material to collider. Check https://community.bistudio.com/wiki/Arma_Reforger:FBX_Import#Collider_usage page

[delicate condor]

@tacit eagle @woeful canyon While im sure its all good fun, I refer you guys to my post above #enfusion_model message Please keep the discussion on topic.

[karmic adder]

I've got a working door, but when I add it as a child to another object and try to open it, it resets to the parent objects pivot point.
Does anyone know what the issue could be?

[austere oxide]

Is there a way to find out the exact dimensions of the models that are already in the prefabs?

[last parcel]

my next project only need to figure out how to best do the magazine,

[daring condor]

make a segment of it and array it along acurve

then you have the general shape

[last parcel]

no its not that

it has this wierd shapes on the magazine that i am going to model. just need to figure it out in my head first

😛

[daring condor]

yes

thats what i mean

just model a segment of that and then array that along a curve

[last parcel]

well, that could work yes, will try it

[daring condor]

here is what my plan of attack would be

i recently also learned that blender lets you do start and end caps for arrays

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OKh1zxxR5zQ

this video explains some array shenanigans you can do

guy does art for rust

[last parcel]

yea my first thought was just doing a bending modifer on it after modeling it completly straight but it might be messed up then

[daring condor]

sounds like a lot of work 😛

[last parcel]

True 😛

[daring condor]

id just do the segment approach

then later apply that and model the extra bits like that weird handle thing and the mag release catch

[last parcel]

will defiantly try that :), Thanks for the advice 🙂

[daring condor]

armchair blender work is what i do xd

[last parcel]

yea i don't use blender but the approach is mostly the same 😛

[daring condor]

but if you like doing hard surface assets then i can recommend that channel

ah i assumed youd do xd

but i assume that arrays and curve deforms exist in every modeling suite

[last parcel]

yea they exits in 3dsmax too so it should work almost the same

[sly bridge]

no, don’t do that, will have weird deformation in the end

you can array it, or devide it along a spline if you wanted to

[last parcel]

ok, Thanks for the tip

[quasi sedge]

Anyone working on houses/structures that would be willing to teach me how to get a fbx game ready and import it? Haven't seen any documentation and no examples.

[solemn goblet]

Hey Trigon, have you checked out the wiki page about PBRMulti? It's here: https://community.bistudio.com/wiki/Arma_Reforger:Enfusion_Blender_Tools:_Materials_Preview

Also this ArtStation post shows a few bits: https://www.artstation.com/artwork/Ar4w3y

[last parcel]

finished the magazine highpoly finnaly 😛

[solemn goblet]

Looks great man. Good job. Is this 3DS?

[last parcel]

yep

[solemn goblet]

Awesome. ping me when you make a post in #enf_showroom, this is one of the more in-universe models so I'm definitely interested 😛

[zenith quartz]

I never thought to do that...

I always just used simple deform.

hhhh

[solemn goblet]

just sculpt the magazine

[zenith quartz]

😭

[daring condor]

I use curves for everything I can

But arrays are your best friend

And for anything that bends curves too

If I have to make a metal cage or anything I just use curves and bevel them

Because fuck using the spin tool

And remember to do a planar dissolve on your curve once you are done with it

Honestly

Just planar dissolve and triangulate all of your meshes for lp

[solemn goblet]

averys hard surface is honestly iconic

somethin about it

[zenith quartz]

thanks!

[lean spruce]

@broken plaza You wouldn't happen to know of any plugin / program that pulls all the prefab data for gear, weapons, mags, etc., and allows to create loadouts that actually adhere to volume/weight constraints (instead of blindly adding stuff to arrays in SCR_InventoryStorageManagerComponent properties)? 🙂

Reason: Creating loadouts after adding lots of gear and weapons is way too tedious. 7 loadouts can easily take several hours to create.

I would probably be able to add a current weight / current volume % bar to the ItemsInitConfigurationItem class and prevent adding further, but it's inaccessable (probably in engine).

So before I start writing my own tool that pulls all info into a db + a GUI that allows me to create loadouts + an exporter that creates .et files and registers them in engine again, I wanted to ask if you have something like that 😄

[tacit eagle]

Does anyone know of a tutorial on modeling weapons, equipment, and uniforms? New to modding and would love to learn!

[shell hedge]

you'll need to learn a 3d modeling tool like blender, then you can have a look at the sample content as a good starting point

[dense thunder]

Anyone recommend a good example building with ladders on it so I can see the setup, couldn't see any on the github

[slim silo]

do you have a specific building in mind you want to “copy”, just use the prefab in world editor and see how it’s configured. The small lighthouse, factory, fire station have ladders in their prefabs IIRC

[dense thunder]

Any buildings to be fair that has ladders and doors for memory point setup and such on the new engine, I presume the models are unlocked then to be able to get a good look at them?

[bright raft]

Current WIP. Long way to go tho as it will require custom anims which I currently know nothing about 😛'

[solid tulip]

ohh damm i can smell that gustav close to my carl

[fluid fern]

Hi, Does anyone work on train tracks?

[solemn goblet]

In what capacity?

[dapper oar]

in what guage?

[fluid fern]

I'm working on a map at the moment and there is a railway track except that there is no structure to see the railway

[solemn goblet]

Like no rail station? Or no train?

[fluid fern]

Like train

[solemn goblet]

A train can either be a dissertation in hard surface modeling or something pretty simple. You might be able to find a model online (be weary with licensing, that's important here). As far as one that works with nodes and animations, that's gonna be minimum a few weeks of work assuming you already have the model. I don't think any elements exist in current templateable form for trains following a path. This might be a scripting and configuration question once you have your model train.

[fluid fern]

So I don't want the track to be functional, I just wanted to know if anyone was working on a 3D train track, like on the 3D Cup terrain models on A3

[solemn goblet]

Ah I see what you mean. Just the track models are pretty easy. I'm not making them and I have no idea about anyone else making them.

[fluid fern]

Ok thank 🙂

[delicate condor]

so in case someone does make track models (or anything else that snaps together) Please do:

• use accurate measurements and make sure the snapping ends fit together and if something curves X degrees, make sure it curves 5 degrees
• add enough mesh that can be sunk into ground so there is 0 chance to accidentally have it floating
• add mesh to both ends to make sure things blend together
• if mesh has seamless blending, make sure the UV mapping also blends seamlessly

[wise karma]

Accurate measurements? To which gauge! 😂

[delicate condor]

any you like as long as its coherent and makes good model that fits together with others of its kind

Nothing is more fun than trying to make 90 degree turn with 5 degree turn curve that real curve is 5.23 degrees 😄

or try to fit short and long parts together but 2 meter part is actually 2.13 and 1 meter part ist actually 0.953

[wise karma]

I'll have to make it 5.1* then 😅
Jokes aside, tracks would be pretty easy to knock a model up for, easy to uv unwrap too.

[delicate condor]

I see we have a volunteer 😄

I will tell you its not as easy as it sounds

[wise karma]

If this is what your after!

[delicate condor]

well those fit all together perfectly

so yes

I've dealt with a lot of rails and snappable objects (my own design and from others) and there are many ways to make mistakes with them

[solemn goblet]

I've seen ways people use tracks and it's pretty cool

It's like with nodes, I don't really know how I'd do that in Enfusion but maybe one day...

[dapper oar]

I have a set of railway tracks modeled & textured, aint got time to mess around with terrain stuff to go to the bother of importing them though 😅

[shell hedge]

it sounds like the segments may need to be manually placed as the generators cant warp meshes

[daring condor]

Ist the way to make that kinda asset to use curves?

[tacit eagle]

So... how are those MP5's coming along

[delicate condor]

I kinda doubt that

[wise karma]

You can make them place on curves, but the mesh wont deform to it

[delicate condor]

From what I understand the curves generator is not a tool that would actually be able to snap railroad parts ends together and choose correct curve part in right place

[wise karma]

Best you can do with minimum effort

[delicate condor]

like I said, its not meant for this kind of thing

[daring condor]

No I mean within blender

Best way to get things that are bent but retain equal distance between both sides are curve mods in my experience

[delicate condor]

Its possible but making things accurate migth not be easiest with it

[daring condor]

It's essentially the same as the spin tool

But Mon destructive

[delicate condor]

it can work but I would worry about the curves accuracy

as in is it that 5 degrees turn or 5.2135

[daring condor]

Cad sketcher to the rescue!

[delicate condor]

probably some sort of guides can be set up to make sure it is

[daring condor]

But seriously, there are add-ons and people doing cad in blender

[delicate condor]

there are those too yes

any tool one knows how to use can achieve it Im pretty sure 😅

[daring condor]

True that

[dapper oar]

cad to get splines accurate to real-world spacing and layouts, import those into 3d suite, do 3d stuff.

[delicate condor]

for example 👆

[daring condor]

Ye

My point is just that curves are awesome

You can do the dumbest shit with them in b3d

[wise karma]

Well yeah, if you want to go that route, but in-editor curve tools leave more options open to you.

[dapper oar]

also you can use parametric model tools normally used in ArchVIS to save a bunch of work and keep your base models+UVs having good texel density

[daring condor]

Depends, for some things you'd want specific models for angles

[dapper oar]

that rail set I did, entire thing uses 1 texture set, dozens of models. 😏

[daring condor]

Traumsheets, ho

Trim

[dapper oar]

nope, they are in single uv coordinates

[daring condor]

Don't like that, I prefer the flexibility of curves

[dapper oar]

bend tools will overstretch the outside edges, they aren't good for doing cad based stuff where the geometry is super important

[daring condor]

Add more levels of subdiv 👍

[dapper oar]

that will only make an inaccurate model worse 😁

[wise karma]

Of course, they are the best option but in this case in-engine curves aren't feasible. Alternatively you could make the rail follow a custom curve in blender (or whatever package) then export, but unless you already know the exact rail shape (GTT might export that, can't remember) that's just as limiting.

[dapper oar]

anyways I dunno if blender has parametric tools like railclone, but those are the kinda tools I used in max to build off the spline data from cad.

[wise karma]

Use bend tools in cad software 😅

[dapper oar]

thats not really how cad works.

[daring condor]

So if I was to create tools I'd do it in the stupidest way possible

Use an array plus curve mod to get the metal rails

Then array an empty along the same curve

And instance the wood bit to the empties

[wise karma]

I use the term bend loosely within cad as its would go by revolve or something similar

[daring condor]

Good thing I model stuff that doesn't need that level of accuracy :P

Like vehicles

Or guns

[bright raft]

So I imported my model and it is black. When I apply my textures from Substance Painter, some of them are missing and looks weird. Anyone had similiar isssue?

[hoary herald]

damn i had that issue...

[bright raft]

This is without defined material

[hoary herald]

trying to remember what it was

this is what mine looked like

i think it was something in blender

[bright raft]

Tried:
Recalculating normals
Applying transformation
Setting different origin
Merging

[hoary herald]

check if there is any geometry data

sometimes i have nonsense in there and i X it out and it fixes issues

also

double check that you dont have 2 uv maps on accident

maybe its not sure which uv map to read if you have multiple

[hoary herald]

hm ok nothing in there....

man...

trying to remember

[bright raft]

I even tried mergin it with default cube ;d

[hoary herald]

in your object data is everything relatively "empty"

cause merging 1 broken object with any other will maintain the data and its brokeness

[bright raft]

You are wonderful my man

[hoary herald]

it was something in there was it?

[bright raft]

I had vertex colors assigned by some addon

[hoary herald]

removed it and fixed it?

[bright raft]

Instantly. Works great, thank you

[hoary herald]

yessir anytime

[daring condor]

yeah for some god forsaken reason enfusion multplies base colour by vertex colour

[last parcel]

finished first pass on the bake and texture for my gun 🙂

[bright raft]

Lookin good. How many tris?

[last parcel]

around 16

[bright raft]

Nice

[fast notch]

I turned over all the normals, the walls are still transparent, what could be the problem?

[wheat bay]

Finished up my Chemlight model

[zenith quartz]

I did one of those not too long ago too.

Scrapped it tho because I saw BI had chemlights in the localization files.

[delicate condor]

there can be more than 1

rave partee

[last parcel]

Some more work done on the RK95

[hoary herald]

@wheat bay looks good

not to deter you, i have some started as well. I havent gotten around to finishing them up though.

if you want the same effect i have, model the interior of the chemlight to and apply the emissive on just the inside. put a plastic material with decreased opacity on the exterior hull. looks really good in game

the one thing i got stuck on was dynamically turning the light on and off to enable it after thrown. i was also hoping to include being able to pick it back up and throw it again as well as attaching it to your gear for identification but im a 3d guy

[wheat bay]

Yeah, that's actually exactly what I did

[hoary herald]

nice good move

it looks really good

[wheat bay]

How it turned out

[hoary herald]

pretty realistic short from having fluid simulation on the inside

nice!

looks awesome

[wheat bay]

Thanks! It's been interesting looking for the right balance of brightness and stuff

[hoary herald]

if you figure out the functionality of it please let me know

would love to finish mine for learning sake

i also have a pop flare in the cue

[wheat bay]

Yeah, I had a tad bit of help with it earlier, but I'm just going to stick to an interaction to turn on/off

Oh sweet XD We had the same ideas

[hoary herald]

ah gotcha

yeah seems so lol

night fighting is a pain

[wheat bay]

I haven't played much of the game honestly, I'm just working on things I remember seeing in Arma 3, or would like to see myself

[hoary herald]

my flare model

[wheat bay]

Oh sweet, that looks awesome

[hoary herald]

concept

i have it setup based on a launcher right now

still need to work out the chute deployment along with the light

after that i need to sort out proper animation cause firing it like a law looks weird XD

but yeah lmk if i can help with anything 🙂

[solemn goblet]

Yooo Dog I'm making a parachute flare too. Same kind but probably not same exact one

[hoary herald]

well damn @solemn goblet let me know if you figure it out. i wish i had more time to dedicate right now but adult life and all that jazz 😦

[solemn goblet]

Haha yeah feel that. I'm doing my post-graduate degree right now

[hoary herald]

yeah can only imagine how much time that eats

so far all i did is use the LAW as a base, changed the projectile mesh with my flare projectile.

works for what it is

just need to get the chute to deploy with a light and float down^^

[solemn goblet]

I've messed with enfusion very little yet

Once I get my vehicle in I'll work more with entityification

[zenith quartz]

I've got an AK and a few other weapons in the works. Also a holosight and pistol rds.

Time to import them and then sit there because I don't understand animation at all.

[sand pagoda]

started flaregun too

[hoary herald]

Nice lol

[shell hedge]

I have some flare effects in the fx mod if you need inspiration for the light part

[prime notch]

Do we have any models that are scaled to the world size upon importing? Samples maybe?

[solemn goblet]

1m in a 3D program is 1m in-game, it's pretty intuitive in that regard

[prime notch]

Oh awesome, so 40km would be exact

[solemn goblet]

Yep. Idk how the game would handle mesh in that scale but technically it'd be 1:1

[prime notch]

Also, is there a way to get the reforger man for uniforms/gear?

[solemn goblet]

There is a bohemia reforger github that has some of the meshes

For simplification I use the 'weightref' of my own

[delicate condor]

Only the samples, anything in game can't be edited

[prime notch]

Where do you get the samples?

[solemn goblet]

<#enfusion_model message>

It's a github let me find it

https://github.com/BohemiaInteractive/Arma-Reforger-Samples

[prime notch]

Thank you

[solemn goblet]

The discord link is my own personal .blend that has vertex groups, the github link has more

[thorn topaz]

select the mesh (not in edit mode) CTRL+A, select "All Transforms"
Observe the mesh invert itself.
Select mesh, go into edit mode, ctrl+N "Recalculate outside"

Repeat step 1, mesh should not invert.

[trail yacht]

is it allowed to port in A3, A2 and dayz models into Reforger? Or does that break their licenses?

[little kayak]

A2/A3 are within the license, as long as you don't break the license by getting the models/textures/etc. in non-allowed ways.
As for DayZ I believe the license is different and not allowed in the Arma series.

Probably better to ask/discuss this in #other_ip_topics

[trail yacht]

ty

[delicate condor]

A3 is not

[delicate condor]

Only the public Arma data packages can be used in ways their license allows

So that would be A1 A2 data mainly

[little kayak]

well, even IF the license would allow it, it would still not be possible since the models are not usable for import

[delicate condor]

Indeed

[little kayak]

same applies to DayZ

[delicate condor]

But best to be precise with these things, otherwise people get funny ideas

[last parcel]

ingame and working not only need to fix abit with materials/texture not to make it so darn dark, and fix the bolt being out of aligentment ingame,

[surreal ore]

One of the reasons the blender tools have an P3d import option

[little kayak]

Which only works if you have non-encrypted versions of the P3d, which you only (should) have if you made the models yourself in the past 😉

[surreal ore]

@little kayak I'm assuming the models they released for use are binned?

If so that makes no sense

[dapper oar]

by non encrypted Grezvany means unbinarised/uncompiled mlod p3ds, as opposed to binarised/compiled odol p3ds.
besides if you have models you made yourself, it's as quick to just bundle up a new fbx export for enfusion.

[little kayak]

just tried it out with a model I have; binarized P3d doesn't import, unbinarized works without a problem

[surreal ore]

@dapper oar I know what he means. We're talking about porting. I obviously have unbinmed models of everything I made.

[dapper oar]

I know you're talking abut porting as was I, that's why I said it's quicker to just bundle up a new FBX of your own model than go to the hassle of converting your p3d for enfusion.

[surreal ore]

And we weren't talking about using our p3ds

We we talking about porting the Licensed Data Packages released by BI

[dapper oar]

I am capable of reading.

[surreal ore]

Well you must be confused

[dapper oar]

Not at all, I was merely offering my view on porting p3ds when you have the source files.
For the LDP's some models are mlod some are odol, hence why I stated what I did to clear up the "non encrypted" misnomer.

[surreal ore]

Yeah. Not quite sure why you needed to explain to me what binned p3ds are when I literally had just mentioned them. That should have been an indication that I know what they are. Lol

[dapper oar]

People aren't entitled to offer comment to clearup misnomers in conversation for the benefit of anyone else reading the conversation?, Weird view but okay.

[surreal ore]

That's not what it seemed like you were doing from my point of view.

[solemn goblet]

Looks like you got the snapping points good. I'm wondering how you managed to get it so perfectly set if not haha

[last parcel]

i just used the sample file, seems to work fine for me, it had a slight issue that i needed to reset the xform due for some wierd reason it has been scaled downwards.

[solemn goblet]

Chad

[surreal ore]

@solemn goblet Could you be using the old samples? They were supposedly updated and fixed iirc. Not sure what all was messed up to begin with though.

[solemn goblet]

I think the new samples work but there is no head with all the proper weights that fit well within the body mesh or something.

So my weightref just shows a helmet haha. It's all I'll need in my own uses but I try to help if I can

[surreal ore]

Oh yeah it's just body for some reason.

The armature is also the ugliest thing I've ever seen.

Non-symmetrical and weird bone orientations for no apparent reason.

[solemn goblet]

Its made somewhere else and imported to Blender I imagine

I think a guy named Mario knows how to use them really good and it doesn't seem excessive. I have been looking at his posts for reference

[surreal ore]

Oh yeah MarioE is the animation guy lol

[solemn goblet]

Yep. He seems to know what he's doing

[surreal ore]

@solemn goblet we still can't get animals to work for some reason though.

Something has to be missing from my the entity itself

[solemn goblet]

No idea. I'm not really an animation guy. My understanding there is mostly limited to basic stuff

[surreal ore]

Oh I know. Was just saying.

Oof

Thought we were in a different channel too lol

[solemn goblet]

You can always DM me too, I don't bite 😳

[shell hedge]

yeah bro get in these DMs

[solemn goblet]

Getting close to a base vehicle to work from... flag_gb reacts only🇬🇧

almost immediately my explicit flag_gb react rule was broken by master baiter

[surreal ore]

@solemn goblet his hand slipped because he was masterbai... Well you know.

[solemn goblet]

Weird server to be in for a fisherman. Hoping to see his fish models soon

[last parcel]

improved the model a tiny bit. so you no longer can see right through it

[dense thunder]

Has anyone figured out door axis memory points and such in blender?

[calm rune]

Ive been looking but have not seen anything. Be nice if they updated the GitHub samples with a structure sample for us.

[dense thunder]

I'm sure they will soon, everything else I'm good with but getting memory points in for ladders and doors I can't quite figure out lol

[wispy crypt]

Probably an extremely dumb question but scaling of a model in the tools. Where is this done? Might just be extremely blind

[last parcel]

you do that in the modeling program that you use

[wispy crypt]

Was hoping to do it in the tools to avoid having to reimport but yeah guess so

[tacit eagle]

Is there a trick to make UCL Colliders work?

Whatever i try they are ignored when i import them into the editor

[lime comet]

also on colliders, I try to set them up with material in Blender, but seems my change is always reverted and I get this error when importing: PROFILING : Rebuilding took: 1444.926200 ms RESOURCES : Rebuilding @"Assets/Props/Deck/sn4_cva66/jbdBase.xob" RESOURCES : GetResourceObject @"{89051263F41723B0}Assets/Props/Deck/sn4_cva66/jbdBase.xob" RESOURCES (E): Wrong&patched resource GUID in @"Assets/Props/Deck/sn4_cva66/jbdBase.xob" for property UTM_JBD resource name @"material/metal.gamemat" RESOURCES : GetResourceObject @"{536BF67B2052B869}material/metal.gamemat" RESOURCES (E): Failed to open RESOURCES : Build successful PROFILING : Rebuilding took: 132.656100 ms

it stays with @"{536BF67B2052B869}material/metal.gamemat" no matter what I enter. When I do Colliders Setup in blender the game material is empty always

no Colliders, no UserActions, or?

[tacit eagle]

Hi Torsten, long time no see

Glad someone is having issues aswell 🙂

[lime comet]

well, it worked for my cube, not sure what's up now

[calm rune]

Are you setting up the names properly?

[lime comet]

I hope, in the workbench I see metal gamemat is assigned. On the Collider names and such:

the Collider is even detected with 8 vertices and 12 faces in Colliders for jbdBase.xob. Material though is code|default.gamemat. hmmm

restart of workbench seems to have resolved the material problem, I manually assigned it now in workbench

in RigidBody, what does Model Geometry actually do? This did the trick seemingly. I'm confused

[sly lodge]

Need another decimal for the scale on import settings, ive gotta import some meshs at 1.9375 scale

[sand pagoda]

also did internals for fun

[solemn goblet]

nice welds chad

did internals for fun

[tacit eagle]

did the most unfun part for fun

what a guy

👏

[red cypress]

How can I align this with the dudes legs? or do I not have to. I have no idea how to test if it works or not

[calm rune]

That issue could be caused by one of the 3 or all 3 combined things:

1: no armature
2: no weights
3: improper export

[red cypress]

In all honesty I have no idea what any of that means, is that just general blender stuff that can be learned from a tutorial or is it more reforger specific.

[calm rune]

Basic blender things.

[red cypress]

ok, I will watch a tutorial. Thank you

[calm rune]

Just make sure you are using the character_template from the GitHub.

[red cypress]

I assume I just import this file

[calm rune]

Indeed!

[red cypress]

Thank you very much

[calm rune]

That template is where you get the rigging/bones(armature)

[red cypress]

OK, another quick question. Do I have to set up the animation? or is that done procedurally through the bones?

[calm rune]

No fiddeling with animations needed. I assume you are just trying to put clothing on the model so its simply making sure each item has an armature modifier. Then each item has to be weighted then exported properly.

[red cypress]

Awesome, I'll try that later. Thank you

[last hill]

Flare gun? Nice

[prisma delta]

how'd you do the grip texture

[prisma delta]

wow that's a clever set of tricks lol

[solemn goblet]

You bring it into Zbrush from Blender?

[zenith quartz]

Outta curiosity, why do the grip texture in 3D? Why not in substance?

[dense thunder]

i was just going to ask the same thing, normals would be so much better that verts

unless your baking into low poly?

[last parcel]

you always bake into a lowpoly

[zenith quartz]

I'd bake it down to low poly yeah but even then, time.

I guess it's not that much time, though. :P

[last parcel]

it takes about 2 mins to make a decent looking diamond grips thingy.

atleast in 3dsmax 😛

[zenith quartz]

Fair.

[dense thunder]

thats not to back actually, ive never tried it

[zenith quartz]

I remember trying to do the little grip squares on my Glock in Blender and that was pain.

I ended up just texturing them on.

[last parcel]

oh, 3dsmax has a tool that makes the diamond shape for me, so its so easy 🙂

[zenith quartz]

Glock ones are a bit diff.

I more struggled with the curves along the front and back.

I hope my AK doesn't have anything annoying.

[last parcel]

the only annoying part from the ak12 would be the mag and the handgrip, always hated making grips 😛

[sand pagoda]

for me its easier to do it in 3d

[zenith quartz]

Fair enough.

[zenith quartz]

YEP

Here's mine so far

Grip I think I pulled off well but magazine isn't anywhere close to done. Barely started

I always hate doing magazines.

Mags, grips, and stocks.

Gas block on this one is also very unfun.

[last parcel]

yea want i can see on this refernce

https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/0617/1325/2580/products/at-ak12-3le_7d9447c7-1aac-440b-9a48-e5a6aab2e248_800x533.jpg?v=1640520053

the mag looks extremly funky

[sand pagoda]

daaaamn

looks awesome

[zenith quartz]

Thanks!

[zenith quartz]

Yeahhh.

I don't even know how I will tackle the indents.

[solemn goblet]

you can use uhhh

the grid thing

lattice shrinkwrap I think

[zenith quartz]

Lattice..?

Ahhh.

Maybe.

[last parcel]

well there is several ways, you could use a plane and make one side the use symmentry to just work on one side and go from there

[zenith quartz]

Yeh def mirror it

[solemn goblet]

That's like an in my mind theory crafting modifier stack attempt at a workflow

[zenith quartz]

I thought about just using edgeloops and going from there.

Edge slide bla bla

Or floater Geo.

[solemn goblet]

the real trick is to download hopscutter 😎

[last parcel]

i general don't like floater geo always makes the bake funky

[zenith quartz]

I have it (:

Floater Geo works for meeeee

But I use marmoset

So I can fix skew

[last parcel]

yea could be easier in marmo, i use substance painter

[zenith quartz]

Idk guess we'll see I wanna finish the main gun first

Then mag, then GP34, then PK122

[solemn goblet]

Which matcap do you use Avery

[zenith quartz]

Uhhhhhh

I forget the name

[solemn goblet]

ceramic dark?

[zenith quartz]

Dark grey one with like orange-ish edgelights

maybe???

I use "that one". :D

[solemn goblet]

It's almost part of your style somehow idk I just never seen someone use it

I'm not trying to personality test you on matcaps or anything lmao it's just one of the lesser used ones 😆

[zenith quartz]

It's alright haha

Idk I just like it but sometimes I switch

Zebra ones and bright red shiny one for checking shade

Ceramic grey or the world space rainbow one sometimes too lol

Just for fun

Used to use the red clay one a lot

[solemn goblet]

Red one is my favorite I think it's just the most neutral 'working' matcap if that makes sense

Anyway just wanted to pick ur brain a little bit. Really like what you got going on my friend

[zenith quartz]

Thank ya!

[solemn goblet]

Do ya got an artstation

[zenith quartz]

I do but it's not updated yet ^^;

https://www.artstation.com/averythekitty

So it's completely empty rn.

[solemn goblet]

No worries, whenever you upload it's a free like from me

[zenith quartz]

Heh thanks :)

[fathom bolt]

how can i mask my helmet in first person ?

[solemn goblet]

There was a dev who answered this question before, let me see if I can find it

#reforger_workbench message

Let me know if this is the answer to your question friend

[fathom bolt]

perfect thank you

[simple meteor]

anyone know what define land contact on vehicles ?

[late veldt]

I was sure I read something about intersecting more than two Colliders the other day and now I can not remember where. Is there a reason to not overlap colliders?

[tidal latch]

Penetration calculations are not going to work very well with overlapping fire geo

[solemn goblet]

#enfusion_configuration message
Maybe me here?

[late veldt]

Thank you, so lost haha been learning blender / Arma tools the last 3 days and all the documentation reads like hieroglyph to me still. Start small they say... me builds full apartment building.

[delicate condor]

they do be correct on that advice 😅

[solemn goblet]

start small but dream big 😎

[twilit mesa]

Sorry if this is the wrong place to ask, how would I go about saving something as a new prefab if I modify one of the stock items, say I want to change the properties or a lampost, change the lighting properties can I then save that as a new prefab so I don't have to try and remember what I did every time I want to add the same item

[wheat bear]

my models have a red tint to them, even with no material applied.

anyone know why? thanks

[solemn goblet]

Enfusion takes vertex color into account

[wheat bear]

is there an easy way to ignore them

[solemn goblet]

Just set it to white I think

[wheat bear]

or would I have to like open the model in blender or something

i bought the models so

[solemn goblet]

If you send me the model fbx I'll fix it for you, just DM me

[wheat bear]

its okay I think we just found a blender script/plugin to do it fast

thanks for the offer

[solemn goblet]

No worries

Hope it works friend

[karmic adder]

Can anyone tell me why the fences go to the ultra low LOD so soon in this scenario?
When I place one far away from everything else, I can go very far away without this happening.
Might this be related to GPU memory limit, or maybe them being so close together? And is there a way to work around this without just using less fences?
It's not directly related to the LOD settings, as I said it usually only looses detail very far away.

[delicate condor]

do they have other lods?

how complex is the first lod?

[karmic adder]

4 LODs with 1722, 518, 152 and 8 verts (the ultra low detail one).
LOD Factors are 20, 5, 1, 1 (, 1...).

Didn't set the factors up myself, they are like this in the prefab. Possibly a mistake with both LOD2 and LOD3 being 1? I'm not too familiar with that, and I'm not sure if that's the reason.

The assets in question are the PierCovers located in ArmaReforger/Prefabs/Structure/Infrastructure/Naval/Piers.

[late veldt]

This is my first time making a 3d model. The collision boxes are great when walking around inside however when I shoot a wall the bullet seems to pass right through. Even my concrete material walls show no evidence of bullet damage, and bullets seem to pass through no problem. Any idea how I fix this?

[tidal latch]

what layers are using your colliders? What type of colliders are those?

[late veldt]

Well I kinda had to experiment a lot and probably have stuff wrong. Used all UBX or UCX colliders...

I also probably have the LOD0 stuff wrong and such

[tidal latch]

https://community.bistudio.com/wiki/Arma_Reforger:Collision_Layer take a look at this page to find out what layer presets are doing

https://community.bistudio.com/wiki/Arma_Reforger:FBX_Import#Collider_usage this page in general explains colliders quite well too

[late veldt]

Thank you reyhard.

For people with same issue in future searches - Fixed issue by selecting Default, Static, and Navmesh, in the Rigidbody Component that I added to the model. Thank you again reyhard.

[tidal latch]

that's incorrect way though! This way ALL your components are using layer presets

you should probably switch your colliders to "BuildingFireView", export it to FBX and then reset geometry params (as its mentioned in Game materials section "https://community.bistudio.com/wiki/Arma_Reforger:FBX_Import#Physical_material_.28Game_material.29 ) and reimport the asset in Workbench again

[late veldt]

Ok

[last hill]

Where does the game pull the weapon holster/sling offsets from and is there a way to change them? I am trying to work out if I can have an unhidden sidearm show in a holster?

[wheat bay]

Teach me your Hard Surface ways lol. It looks great! I'm practicing a bit so I can do attachments soon.

I'm impressed you got such clean curved surfaces. That's been the most tricky for me so far.

[last hill]

He is my idol here at the moment, got some skills for sure

[solemn goblet]

I think he is good with the code side of things as well so basically that picture of a dude playing chess with his own brain

[bright raft]

Hardops and good reference photo imho. I am glad you like how it looks 🙂

Just got back into modeling more after reforger released, havent been doing it much before

[torn lodge]

cough Vietnam stuff

[hidden yarrow]

bruh riverx you should show m that apache...

that thing is insane

[bright raft]

Still thinking about adding it to Reforger some day

[light eagle]

Nice work you got there.

[thorn topaz]

impressive

[dense plover]

Isn't that the DCS Apache model?

[zenith quartz]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/553016466094555156/989665057384321054/unknown.png

RGO I made in a few hours.

[solemn goblet]

ur epic 4 that

[red cypress]

Is the character template supposed to look like this? or did I make a mistake when importing?

[last hill]

If memory serves, the collisions are correct orientation, the rest is backwards.

[red cypress]

any idea on how to fix it?

[last hill]

Select the backwards stuff and hit R then X then rotate, it may nor be X, still pretty new to Blender, still making my donut

You want everything to face towards the Y+ axis in Blender and 3ds Max

@dense plover Nah man, just googled and the DCS one is on another level

[bright raft]

No. Have been working on it for a long time now, and honestly probably started before DCS Apache was announced

[last hill]

I would be proud to be compared to the DCS one considering they are given whatever they need from the manufacturers

[bright raft]

Well, now I am :d

[tidal latch]

Yes, that is correct. Upon import in workbench rotate your character by 180 in rotation field in import settings

[red cypress]

How can you select only the backwards stuff? I tried selecting all the stuff on the left, like in the first picture. But when I go to rotate it, only 1 part moves like in the second photo

[last hill]

@red cypress From Reyhard from your post earlier. Yes, that is correct. Upon import in workbench rotate your character by 180 in rotation field in import settings

Looks like you do it at import to workbench, not in Blender mate, so work on it, then do the rotation when you import.

Apologies for the misinformation, I used 3ds for all my mods, Blender process is new to me.

[red cypress]

no worries, trying to make some clothing anyway not just the character, so the hitboxes dont matter to much (I think?). Need to figure out how to rig the armature of clothing and weight paint it. But the tutorial armatures are so much more simple than this one.

[tidal latch]

just to give bit more context - rotation of character originates from the fact, that animations are made in MB with character rotated 180 degrees. In Workbench though, it was decided that all assets should point the other direction. Rotate parameter in Transform section of Import Settings doesn't rotate the colliders so that's why this weird solution (aka colliders rotated in correct way where the character is rotated by 180 degrees) was made

Above you have pic where you should change mesh rotation

[dense plover]

Seriously dude its impressive. Well done my guy!

[prime notch]

Ctrl + left click to select multiple objects. Once selected, press R which will enter rotation tool. Then press Z to rotate on the Z axis which should show a blue vertical line. Once you see the blue line, type 180.

[wheat bay]

Holy Shit, that is incredible.

[kindred thistle]

Heya, is there a tut for creating uniforms? I have the model, materials, collision etc. already there, however I don't understand bones and what is needed

[zenith quartz]

Any way we can view XYZ coords for mem points and bones in vanilla models?

[solemn goblet]

I actually tried everything possible and @zenith quartz only thing I can suggest is checking the entity attachments and seeing what their offset is, very low chance what you are looking for is there.

[surreal ore]

@kindred thistle that's application specific. You need too learn rigging in whatever application you're using.

[pliant bolt]

Always worked on buildings, starting to switch to something more difficult, first attempt at a tank (I know it's very early but I think the turret is actually starting to look pretty decent)

https://gyazo.com/05e4c7257d2605acbe7f2d604f8eacb5

[tacit eagle]

Good luck! What model tank are you basing yours around?

[pliant bolt]

Thanks! Leopard 2A6, but I think I'm also gonna make the 2A4 turret cause I'm pretty sure the hulls are the same

[solid tulip]

Actually it looks beautiful

[pliant bolt]

Thanks, it's still extremely early but actually having quite a bit of fun with it

[solemn goblet]

Awesome pics. Great size. Look thick. Solid. Keep us all posted on your continued progress with any new progress pics.

[zenith quartz]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/976838825202556988/989933564680343592/unknown.png

More AK.

I think I need a break before I keep working on this. Blegh. 😛

[kindred thistle]

Kinda getting there making a custom clothing piece, but it's behaving weird

[late veldt]

I don't see anything wrong...

[prisma delta]

yeah ive got scoliosis and thats just pretty much how i walk

[solemn goblet]

I can't diagnose it from this vid alone but it looks like the root in the clothing and the root in the character rig aren't at the same coordinate. I really don't know. I do know that it looks hilarious.

[surreal ore]

@kindred thistle If you want help later on today I'll give you a hand.

[daring condor]

is this a bake issue or just compression artifacting?

[bright raft]

Just compression and weird lighting in model viewer

[kindred thistle]

That would be sweet, thank you!

[surreal ore]

@kindred thistle Where you at? lol

[sudden charm]

anyone already created a carmodel or imported a carmodel to reforger?

[fathom bolt]

For modification of existant vehicle :

https://community.bistudio.com/wiki/Arma_Reforger:Vehicle_Modding

For vehicle creation :

https://community.bistudio.com/wiki/Arma_Reforger:Vehicle_Creation

[sudden charm]

thanks a lot

[daring pasture]

Can't seem to find a download link for the Blender reforger tools? Anyone know where it is?

Checked the wiki, but I might be blind

[bright raft]

Files are inside steam Arma Reforger Tools install directory

[daring pasture]

Awesome, thank you very much!

[median forge]

Are there any resources for clothing creation at the moment, officially or community wise?

[solemn goblet]

There isn't much, but there are some folks who've gotten it to work if you scroll way up

[delicate condor]

you looking for the arma implementation or general "how to model clothes"

[solemn goblet]

<#enfusion_model message> Rywoox fixed issues with his own clothing here using a weightref I made, that's all I can remember.

[last hill]

Also depends on software of choice. I have done it using 3ds Max workflow, others have with Blender. So some from both worlds.

Not related to reply above.

Question for folks, would people like me to have a crack at making a leaf sight to go with the M203 model on my Block 2 as an option or is the zero'd red dot aiming system OK?

I would need to figure out a few extra things for it, but thanks to Greg's ironsight flip system I could quite easily make it a flip leaf sight system that is manually enabled via inspecting the weapon.

I will leave a reaction of thumbs up and down below as a sort of vote system.

[flat lily]

Hi everyone,
is there a way to scale my model to the correct size while importing?
I've found the scale property inside the "Import settings" menu. But once I change the scale to e.g. 0.5 on all axis my bones and memory points do not align to the mesh anymore. (https://imgur.com/a/A73EuGW) Does anyone has an idea how to solve this or is the only option to scale the model inside blender?

[bright raft]

Why not scale in blender though?

[flat lily]

It would be nice because the magazine needs the same scaling as the weapon. Would be great to first only change the scale of the weapon and later apply the same values to the magazine.

[bright raft]

It would probably still be easier in Blender. I imagine its also your magazine model not Reforger vanilla one since the model is MP7.
I'd just scale it a bit in Blender, reimport it to enfusion, test and repeat until scale is good

[carmine vapor]

Is there anything like multimat and supershader in Enfusion? Or is it just one method of texturing?

[solemn goblet]

I think that is PBRM, no? I don't have a mental library of what all these terms mean and their equivalents but have a read on this: https://community.bistudio.com/wiki/Arma_Reforger:Enfusion_Blender_Tools:_Materials_Preview

[surreal ore]

@carmine vapor create a new material

Open it

In the top right there's a button 'change class"

You can even use the old dayZ/Arma shaders

[carmine vapor]

Thanks

[solemn goblet]

Modular body is basically done with my 110 🥳

[chilly dragon]

Does anybody know what's causing these artifacts? its not the and it looks fine in both substance and blender until I import it in

[solemn goblet]

Weird guess, vertex color has opacity? Looks like it's coming from specific vertices so 🤷 don't know never seen that before.

[chilly dragon]

Decimating it did the trick. Seems like it wonks out if there are too many faces in a small space

[solemn goblet]

Ah interesting. So it's very small then?

[chilly dragon]

sorta, about the size of a finger. Problem was that I was just using my high poly just to see what it was like in game

[solemn goblet]

Huh. I'll keep that in mind for my own things. I wonder what the merge distance is in Enfusion. It might be something you can disable.

[zenith quartz]

Look at the vanilla M9 sometime.

It's uhhhh.

Missing many faces.

[queen venture]

Hello fellow modders,
My trade is as a 3D artist and I would like to develop mods for Arma Regorger and eventually Arma 4. Currently, I am midway through importing my first weapon. However, I am having trouble following the documentation since it is written for Blender users, and I use Maya.

I am reaching out today and asking for help. Could someone please send me the fbx file of a gun they have successfully imported into the Enfusion Workbench? This will enable me to see how the scene is laid out and how the bones are constructed.

[shell hedge]

there is one in sample assets

[sly bridge]

there are samples available for that

[queen venture]

oh really? I did see the sample gun from the workshop, but I could only access it within the Arma Reforger Tools. Is there any way to export that?

[twilit mesa]

Hi, can anyone advise me on how to import say an fbx asset I've got and how to get the textures to show up? If I import the fbx it's just a white model and can't figure out how to get any textures to show up

[sly bridge]

@queen venturesee #reforger_samples

[queen venture]

@twilit mesa You can import files by right clicking in the asset browser and selecting import files

[queen venture]

thankyou so much!!

[twilit mesa]

@queen venture cheers, will give that a shot.

[sly bridge]

@twilit mesayou need to assign an emat to it (this is software agnostic, not blender exclusively, considering blender has its own toolset for enfusion)

[cloud rampart]

What is the ID for hide the chest?

[last hill]

Torso if memory serves.

[cloud rampart]

Torso dont delete the chest :/

[last hill]

Does for me mate, not sure what to tell you. Good luck with it though

[calm rune]

Some more civilian clothing.

[polar dew]

Is there a way to force a light on during the day? So that an interior volume would be lit.

[kindred thistle]

Sweet! Did you do it in MD?

Can anyone else help me through a little bit of a crisis? I'm trying to make a t-shirt, and the bones and weights are all correct, but when I put the cloths on my char, it's all fucky wucky. @calm rune already had a look at it, and he can attest that it's correct, and he somehow made it work on his end, however it doesn't on mine

[calm rune]

I did! here is my little work pipeline from my retopo to zbrush.

[kindred thistle]

Awesome! Can't really get into zBrush as of yet, the UI just confuses me lol

[calm rune]

Took me multiple attempts to learn it because the UI is very awkward. I kept quitting over frustration.

[surreal ore]

@kindred thistle I offered to help the other day, you never got back to me

[kindred thistle]

Oh fuck you are right, sorry

[surreal ore]

No worries

lol

[kindred thistle]

can I dm you?

[surreal ore]

sure

[calm rune]

Where do I locate this?

[surreal ore]

@calm rune Look at a default clothing item

[chilly dragon]

Base loadout cloth component

[calm rune]

ty

[surreal ore]

Its exactly what Bose posted, why it doesn't work for him. idk

[calm rune]

So what would you type if say you didn’t want the feet to disappear when wearing shoes?

[surreal ore]

You would just not put the feet into the array

For instance

[calm rune]

Interesting. There are nothing in the arrays on my end but they still disappear 🤔

[surreal ore]

if you had what i posted above, and you made a tanktop you would remove Torso

Must be an inheritance issue then

[chilly dragon]

Try adding an empty array, from memory it shouldnt hide any parts of the character mesh

Also there is a way to find out what the specific parts of the character mesh are called, I forget how but I think it was just from looking through anything character model related

Figured it out. Go into assets>characters>basebody then open up the basebodyxob. Then in the panel on the right go into expand lods then expand the meshes section of lod0

[queen venture]

Hello all. I've been researching the provided sample gun today in an effort to mimic its layout to understand how I need to lay out my scene. After importing my gun into the scene, the only thing that works as expected is the LODs.
Collisions appear to be importing, but there still seems to be an error (invalid layer masks)
In addition, none of my bones or null groups seem to be registering within the engine. I have provided a screenshot of my outliner, if there are any Maya users out there who can point out what I am doing wrong it would be greatly appreciated

[tidal latch]

https://community.bistudio.com/wiki/Arma_Reforger:Weapon_Creation#Checking_colliders_.26_materials
https://community.bistudio.com/wiki/Arma_Reforger:FBX_Import#Import_process_in_the_Workbench
I guess those 2 pages should clear up the situation

[zinc wyvern]

Hey guys, sorry if it's somewhere and I missed it, but which axis should be coming through the middle of a vehicle if designed in Blender?

Oh nvm found it

[queen venture]

After reading through this again it isn't clearing up much for Maya users.

If there are any Maya users out there who have successful imported a weapon in the Enfusion Engine please reach out 😅 🙏

[sly bridge]

fbx export should be software agnostic

[sly bridge]

what is it that you are missing

[queen venture]

Mostly why the bones aren't being registered once in Enfusion Engine, and why the collisions have an invalid layer mask

[sly bridge]

you need vertices groups skinned to these bones to register as bones

in max at least i can have any sort of dummy object act as a bone if i skins some vertices to it

[queen venture]

ahh I see, I guess I was trying to make sure everything would register before I begin the skinning process. Thankyou for clearing that up!

[sly bridge]

no worries, that’s what these channels are for

[queen venture]

Nope still not working 😆 😭 Might call it for the night and try to pick it back up tomorrow. I am hoping to be able to build a conversion mod, I can make assets fairly quickly (3d artist by trade) but it looks like the learning process of a new engine is going to tie me down for a while.
Once I get that first gun working it should be smooth sailing. Anyway night all! Thanks for the help.
Talk soon

[tidal latch]

https://community.bistudio.com/wiki/Arma_Reforger:Weapon_Creation#Skeleton_.26_hierarchy and have you tried this yet?

[queen venture]

A spring of hope, lets try

I have not tried yet

[tidal latch]

well, I thought you read that page 😄

[queen venture]

I saw the image and assumed it was a blender window. my bad

🙏 IT WORKS!!! PROGRESS

[calm rune]

hey?

[ocean mortar]

sorry for the ping i don't know how it happened haha

[calm rune]

Can we have real world logos on our models or is that copyright infringement?

[solemn goblet]

Does look like BI try to avoid it somewhat

I remember reading something about this with Hunt Showdown. So they have weapons like the Springfield 1866 and Mosin Nagant which are state govt weapons and then stuff like Winfield which is a mock of Winchester and Springfield but technically not intruding on any private companies.

I don't 100% know the legal lingo and what's what but if you wanna be safe, might be in your best interest 🤷

[delicate condor]

you would need to have permission from the logo owner

Armaverse in general uses made up franchises

Personally I like that

[solemn goblet]

If it were Rockstar, to avoid licensing issues they'd have it say "SEXX" instead of "SAXX" for example 😆

[calm rune]

I can easily make my own. That is no issues. Just was kinda ignorant on the subject.

[pliant bolt]

Some progress on my first tank model, kinda to hot in my room to work on it haha. https://i.gyazo.com/29ce29bb33beed529eaf89d383d0bad2.png
https://i.gyazo.com/362ccbb1b8fb823c8c3e55e25374636a.png

Once I've done all the hard surface modelling, I'm going to sculpt all the small gritty details

[simple meteor]

Nice work

[sly bridge]

it is advisable to try and stay away from real brands and logos in general, unless you have permission and/or are not trademarked. You can make your own and still name it using military designations

[solemn goblet]

I'm excited to see how this turns out 🙌

[pliant bolt]

Thanks, me too haha.

By far my favorite tank out there

[solemn goblet]

Which tank is this? (I don't know tanks)

[pliant bolt]

I'm modeling of off a Leopard 2A6

It's the German MBT

[calm rune]

Behold! the new logo/s LOL

[solemn goblet]

Oh nice. West Germany it looks like, so you'll be fighting alongside my Challenger.

[solemn goblet]

It works!

[calm rune]

Anyone know why my legs are still missing when nothing is being override?

[pliant bolt]

Well it's a modern day tank haha, so no difference between west and east. But yes it would be alongside a challanger, u have any pics of urs?

[solemn goblet]

Ah. Not yet. It's months away.

[pliant bolt]

Ah oke

[fathom bolt]

You just need to contact the owner and ask, normaly he say yes for free cause its good for him.

[chilly dragon]

Item materials is the wrong section for that. Try adding an empty slot into override meshes to hide

I was talking about it before if you scroll up a little

[calm rune]

Yeah I was talking about override meshes but I squared the wrong box LOL still isn't working.

[chilly dragon]

I don't know what it could be but this is how i set up my tank top model and it works fine

[tidal latch]

if override meshes to hide is empty then override is not engaged

you would need at least one selection there to override mesh hidding - it can be empty as on pic above although I would definitely hide upper part of the legs

[calm rune]

Ty!

[zinc wyvern]

What do you think so far guys? It's my first proper 3D project

[calm rune]

Pretty gnarly model for your first. Personally I would have tried something like an axe or something small haha!

[zinc wyvern]

Hmmm... how should I approach the canopy tho?

[zinc wyvern]

I felt I should do something I'm passionate about

[sly bridge]

for airframes it is advisable to get some refs that have individual sections along the body. much easier to get it right

[zinc wyvern]

Well it's hella hard to get that

Usually you can find something on the blueprints site, but it's not cheap for a vector image

[sly bridge]

for everything you model based on real life counterparts the references are really important to get right

[zinc wyvern]

can you give me an example of what I'm looking for?

[sly bridge]

you can find a lot of these for model kits, also see what other games have these done - for everything jets, DCS is the most accurate representation you’ll get in a video game

example of blueprint with individual section along the frame

https://www.the-blueprints.com/blueprints-depot-restricted/modernplanes/sukhoi/sukhoi_su_39_frogfoot_su_25tm-85966.jpg

[zinc wyvern]

forg

I don't really see the important difference between mine and this

Except the weapons

[sly bridge]

i am not comparing this with whatever you found, because i haven’t seen the blueprint, it was more of a general advice.
in the lower left side you have 2 important things - sections along the airframe and a scale bar

[zinc wyvern]

This is what I'm using

[sly bridge]

also this sort of walkarounds are nais to have on hand

https://www.recomonkey.com/Air-Platforms/Fixed-Wing/Attack/Su-25/Su-25T-Russia/Walkaround/i-sks53gv/A

[zinc wyvern]

The fact that there's individual sections in your's doesn't really help me, cuz I still don't know how to approach it

[lament solar]

You shouldn't start with a jet then

[zinc wyvern]

But how should I build my way up?

[calm rune]

That is why I said i'd start small. You are taking on a BIG project there. Months if done properly.

[lament solar]

Yeah especially if you're going to deck out the interior

[zinc wyvern]

I'm not able to think of things to do before, I'm not knowledgable enough to know what's hard and what's not

[calm rune]

Someone correct me if I am wrong but I think I read somewhere that some tank models in War Thunder take there artist up too 4 months to be completed.

[sly bridge]

i am not writting just for you here, and approaching modeling can be done in a number of ways

considering this is your first model, it is gonna be a pretty daring experince

[zinc wyvern]

The problem is there are tutorials o' plenty about blender, but a lot less about how to model

[sly bridge]

and you might quit in frustration. hence the general suggestion is to make something a lot smaller and easier but have the entire process covered

an ammo box of sorts could be a better alternative to get some experience under your belt