#offtopic_weapons

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tardy zenith
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For 20k EUR you could get tank in Poland. When our Armaments Agency sold them out they were like ~70k PLN (but they're totally sold out ATM). BRDM-2 is ~30k PLN and a few are still for sale ๐Ÿ™‚

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Oh, SKOT OT-64 for 39k PLN, perfect for CSLA fan ๐Ÿ˜›

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Ural 375D 1976, 7 902 kilometers - 24k PLN. Great as a city car, you could park anywhere! ๐Ÿ˜›

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As for today 1 PLN is 0,22 EUR

fresh panther
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Wow that's just over $17 grand American. Looks like my next APC purchase is from Poland.

I'd call trading a 2018 mazda 3 for a BTR is about worth it

ember idol
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every once in a while I do checkout them btr's, those would be pretty cool to drive

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even the brdm

main spade
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you need to install civilian grade radios, basic GPS and they don't let you keep the hardpoints wired up, they also take the fire control suite :(. However in the case of guns on aircraft within the USA as long as its not automatic and less than 10 parts are foreign made there are technically no laws barring its installation.

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however US PMC's do have access to radars

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and there are at least 2 SU-27s in civilian hands

fresh panther
sinful mountain
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How do you get scud missiles to launch, having issues setting them as Arty units with the arty target markers.

haughty hound
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Is this an Arma related question? I suppose it is not an IRL question

ember idol
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nah man, he looking for operations manual lol

jovial hearth
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"Most dangerous" is kinda relative. Remember most murders with firearms are committed by handguns. So having a small, concealable handgun you can conceal into a situation to attack someone by surprise would be dangerous. If you are talking overall "fire power"... you can buy semi automatic versions belt fed firearms like the M249 SAW, the M1919, and even the M2 Browning .50cal. So maybe the latter would answer your questions. Those are all weapons that if you walked into a gun store and they had them in stock, you could have the criminal background check done on you, pay for them and walk out with them.

fresh panther
dapper hull
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All weapons ๐Ÿ˜„ stop only with cannons ๐Ÿ˜„ ๐Ÿ˜„

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AK sound from movie ๐Ÿ˜„ no no no ๐Ÿ˜„ movie sounds its postprocess

main spade
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Most stuff

river snow
sinful mountain
tough moon
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well actually it only has 84 viewable for the average member + 9 voice channels, way less than 5 trillion do not spread false information. arma discord users could be dangerouslly misled

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yes i counted myself

white sleet
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xd

light estuary
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Somebody should make a P80 mod

tall plume
quiet tide
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Smol p90

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P50

tardy zenith
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That's quite big for a pistol. I would add a folding stock to it event before coming home with it ;)

edgy hamlet
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bullpup ak - 47 with folding stock

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try and get that image out of your heads

late sparrow
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Groza, with an underfolder

dapper hull
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๐Ÿคช ล KODA FABIA UPGRADE

tardy zenith
main spade
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Sure man.

wet aspen
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@main spade there's an AR platform conversion crossbow

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I don't know that much about different kinds of crossbows

main spade
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One moment Super as I'm on mobile and I'll send something.

wet aspen
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sure

main spade
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5 Types of Crossbows (And Some Interesting Facts) - Penalty File

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I am still learning mobile. -.-

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You have recurve, pistol cross bow, and three others I think with variations to each that can be made.

wet aspen
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I think that this is a compound one

main spade
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I'm not sure, but this is for the game or a mod? I know archery in the sense that I used to never miss. Crossbows when they came into play packed quite a punch and sort of drew away more so from archer strength, etc.

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It looks like a compound structure in that image.

wet aspen
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yeah I was going to make a crossbow mod for arma 3

main spade
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That would be pretty sick. Huh, let me message a friend, and then I'll do some research for you?

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I don't mind. I'm at home, going insane.

wet aspen
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Someone's making the model/animation and I'm planning on working out the config/etc this weekend with a very simple placeholder model

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that's appreciated!

main spade
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Sure man. I'm just sitting during Covid and going insane anyways.

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Kind of weird, because at first glance the answer doesn't stick out in the searches. Crossbows are illegal here and likely for good reason. lol I'll search in depth after lawn mowing. Surprised no one has made a bow.

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From what I see, that's a Swat X crossbow.

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That thing would do incalculable damage to a person's insides and depending upon the bolt. Either way, really. Damn.

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There are several similar builds. See, you can use Google Lens and it gives comparable searches. Really, it might be better for you to choose a definitive crossbow to determine these things more. Like, your model, functions, etc.

wet aspen
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yeah so I was thinking that specific TAC-15 model with the standard bolt to start

main spade
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Yeah. I found I believe the exact image and it is on a website called, "Military.com", and it gives some info, etc.

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Maybe that will help you? @wet aspen

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If it doesn't, let me know. I think that is your model though.

wet aspen
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yeah gimme a moment will check this out in a bit

main spade
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Sure. Sure

wet aspen
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working atm

main spade
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No worries. I should get my happy ass outside anyways. If that info doesn't help, let me know. I'll hop onto the laptop later. Adios for now.

wet aspen
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have fun!

main spade
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Oh, yeah. I'm elated, as I'm still sitting here. The joy. I'm procrastinating like a mofo.

next dust
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Damn. An Rpg-7 with PGO-7V HEAT round really can penetrate a lot of bullet proof glass.

https://youtu.be/_J-uKNb6TaI

This is impressive. Vid is in Russian.

thin fog
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Whats the reasoning behind the naming of the SPAR 16/S/17? my guesstimate is;

  • SPAR 16 - Special Purpose Assualt Rifle, 16 inch barrel
  • SPAR 16S - Special Purpose Assualt Rifle, 16 inch barrel, S - ?
  • SPAR 17 - Special Purpose Assualt Rifle, 17 inch barrel

?? can someone enlighten please

glass jungle
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HK416/HK417

thin fog
glass jungle
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HK416 = SPAR 16
HK417 = SPAR 17

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it's just the name

thin fog
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my guesstimate is weapon names, especially the number aspect is normally a new design variation
M1A1 / M1 Garand
M2
M3A1 Greasegun
M4
M16
etc

lethal coral
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Spar 16 = HK416 = 5.56 rifle
Spar 17 = HK417 = 7.62 rifle

glass jungle
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they just copied HK name which itself is based on an internal denomination system

thin fog
glass jungle
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the S stands for support as per the wiki

thin fog
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bruh, to get to a 416 variant must have took a ton of money in investing and research

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but i might be disastrously wrong

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found it...

glass jungle
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wiki outdated, France adopted the 416 years ago

thin fog
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line infantry regs equipped with hk416 ๐Ÿ˜ข

glass jungle
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yea volley fire would have been an interesting sight for sure

thin fog
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i know what you meant to say was france adopted the HK 416 years ago, but misinterpreting/misreading it was too tempting to not miss the opportunity for a good laugh lol

glass jungle
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yup took me a second but I figured where it came from, my wording did induce it haha

thin fog
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the salt rifle may have been developed 416 years ago as a design concept, but i doubt it would have worked *ahem @sharp granite ) ๐Ÿ˜‚
(#general_chat_arma message) for others to get the joke ๐Ÿ˜„
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dapper hull
next dust
dapper hull
fossil meteor
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how would you safe proof gas masks for airsoft?

glass jungle
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Cut Polypropylen lenses and put them atop those already in

swift bay
dapper hull
next dust
gritty forge
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Hi, I have a question, how do you know cinema guns when they are modified from the barrel, they can fire live ammo, but what if the whole barrel is changed? an example would be a glock 17 replica remove the reduced film barrel for bullet replicas and put in one of the ones sold on ebay, would that work?

https://www.ebay.com/itm/384568795150?

https://articulo.mercadolibre.com.mx/MLM-1356477330-pistola-fogueo-9mm-ekol-firat-magnum-fume-inluye-50-salvas-_JM?searchVariation=174019501000#searchVariation=174019501000&position=2&search_laypeout=stack=2&searchtypeout=stack=2

or in that case just use an airosoft frame
https://articulo.mercadolibre.com.mx/MLM-821686211-pistola-balines-glock-17-gen-3-blowback-postas-177-co2-bbs-_JM?searchVariation=64763480752#searchVariation=64763480752&position=2&search_layout= stack & type = item & tracking_id =

late sparrow
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I don't really understand your question

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Unless they are non-firing props, film prop guns are essentially real guns, just firing blanks.

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And if you want to know if you can convert an airsoft gun into a real gun.

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Yes, you can

glass jungle
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There are blank firing guns with obstructed barrel to avoid firing a projectile

late sparrow
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it would be extremely unsafe

glass jungle
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Into a grenade rather

late sparrow
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and the modifications would you would need to do would basically amount to making a gun from scratch

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so that's why people usually don't bother doing it

fleet tendon
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it's cheaper (and safer) to buy airsoft blanks and use a real gun

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like a lot of US airsofters do

glass jungle
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airsoft blanks ? You mean simunition ?

tawdry oyster
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yo same

hollow zinc
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anyone here good with airsoft guns?

glass jungle
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What do you mean by good

urban mauve
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airsoft a10 gun

stray oriole
fluid isle
copper cloud
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Hey, opinion on the KP-15?

glass jungle
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Seems solid

finite spruce
idle dome
glass jungle
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Javelin in it's protective packaging

idle dome
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Thank you much, searching for that actually lead me in the right direction. It appears they are NLAW shipping containers, Javelin containers look close but the NLAW ones were the only ones that matched exactly. Thanks again!

runic estuary
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IDK why and how but at today's peace demo someone put down a used/empty HEAT/ HOT tube from the Bundeswehr.
https://imgur.com/XZIZgLe

unreal root
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does the military use x8 or x16 scopes on their lmg's like the m249's?

thick crown
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m249 mostly something between 3 or 4

glass jungle
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Anything that isn't a DMR or sniper rifle usually stays below X4 (some still use DMRs with X4 even)

fresh fulcrum
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USMC uses a 6x optic on the M240 and did use a 3.5x on the M249. US Army uses a 3.4x on both. Some other users have/had various 4x

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Effective range of the M249 isn't really long enough to warrant a 8x or 16x optic, and the narrow FOV of such optics doesn't suit the role

livid yacht
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Is there any fucking modern gun thats chambered in 7.62 and short barreled?

glass jungle
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A G3 variant for the SAS I believe ?

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If you're asking for 7.62x51 of course, there's like a dozen different 7.62 calibers

frosty imp
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What is your definition of short? There are also HK417 in normal Length.

finite spruce
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Groza

thick crown
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There is a short barrel version of alot of guns like
SA58 OSW is aviable 11"
Desert Techs MDR
Galil ACE is aviable as SBR
Bren2 has a short barrel variant in 7,62
as mentioned above HK417 and SCAR H.

livid yacht
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I see, thank you all very much.

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You get a turtle as reward.

keen lake
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"Infiltrating America: The Type 93 Chinese Assault Rifle"

ember idol
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great video

livid yacht
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Also here.

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sci-fi/game ..."weapon"

safe crane
glass jungle
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the two slugs on the left scream russian 7.62 at me for some reason

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I would guess the two cartridges furthest to the right are 9x39

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Hope you got your answer @safe crane

livid yacht
ember idol
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smoothness of the ball means mud == not gonna work

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in fact I think the ball would require you push against the mud you are displacing

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so it is in fact worse than a normal tire

rigid osprey
faint bone
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@normal comet

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I would rather have the MCX Virtus than the spear.

weary fable
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the whole point of the NSGW program was a new caliber

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MCX Virtus wouldn't really make sense

storm harness
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https://youtu.be/mVhXW5U4lIU
A very good demonstration of how helmets withstand shrapnel from grenades. The auto-translation into English is very accurate in this video, I checked. If anyone is interested, then ask questions and I will translate.

rugged forum
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So, 6.8x51, huh?

main spade
lusty dune
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That name rings a bell

dapper hull
finite spruce
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oh right preview wont showing up

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anyway a video on VZ-58

hardy storm
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Help I'm doing a 'why should we completely ban guns in the u.k' speech anyone know any facts/ reasons to help me

glass jungle
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  1. It's basically the case already and doesn't work for shit
hardy storm
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Sorry didnt know that I counted as politics

tall plume
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gun control definetly sounds like politics to me ablobshrug

south warren
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anybody know how to attach a scope to a MG42 machine gun

rigid iron
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Carefully

tall plume
south warren
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the MG42 in Niarms has scopes could attached to , but it is not accurate as the one in Face of War MOD

haughty hound
smoky pike
wanton zephyr
tall plume
main spade
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World's Tallest Scope Base - Does Height Over Bore Matter? AKA funny gun with super long base mount scope attached to it (better than any czechen gun) https://youtu.be/R9lLlodVhrk

fluid isle
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Thats bad description sadcat

dapper hull
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MG42? Who write?

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vz.58 have better recoil as AK47 and vz.58 have slide stop

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๐Ÿคช vz.58 is cool