enfusion_model

[daring blade]

well my model is my model I have all the stages to prove that its mine if someone wants to help me 🤣

[calm rune]

its Royalty Free so yes he can use it.

[daring blade]

Anyone have any ideas of where to look? So far there's no guide to armor modding on the reforger page

For turning my hat into a wearable asset?

[calm rune]

#enfusion_resources message

[daring blade]

Alright so I took a cube in blender, did some box modelling, for the basic shape, brought it into zbrush for sculpting and add stitching and the embossed letters. Then I took it into instant-mesh to create an easy low-poly. Then I slapped it into blender to create uv's, then I brought it into 3ds max to check everything to make sure the texile density was proper. Adjusted the uv's, then slapped a xform modifier on it and adjusted the pivot. I then baked the textures in marmoset, then took everything and compiled it in photoshop. Painted the mesh pattern, applied the pattern to each of the sides and inverted the selection to get a proper alpha channel out of it.

https://i.imgur.com/jjebaQg.png

It was a long day yesterday and I've been messing around too much in enfusion trying to figure things out.

Is there a guide that will point me in the right direction?

The model is in game ready to be worn by the boys.

https://i.imgur.com/5nkL5Us.png

if i follow the weapon modding guide will that get me started enough to then tackle a hat? 🤣

could have just told me to go look in resources there's a tutorial right there to do helmet mods lmao

[narrow chasm]

im tryn basicly the same as you @daring blade

[daring blade]

ahh okay yeah this is the video https://youtu.be/rCrO5VmcYVM

It's unlisted and not even named correctly lol

[narrow chasm]

https://imgur.com/a/INDzNkv

[willow sage]

Ok, having 2 problems atm.
Pink should no exist because of no weights painted.
Green is one that I'm fighting for 2 h

[daring blade]

@narrow chasm yep gotta skin it to a skeleton basically and follow the tutorial

Have you weighted the green 100% to the chest?

then work your way up from that

the pink is having the issue because of no weights painted

[calm rune]

The green I would just pull the geometry out a little so the body isn't clipping. Weights look fine on the tunic. The model in that area is just a little too small for the underbody. SO just pull the geometry out a little and BOOM!

[willow sage]

On it!

[mortal sentinel]

dam, that looks good, always liked this type of US hat

[violet smelt]

reimported arma content?

[calm rune]

Getting some Oorah vibes 😉

[willow sage]

no

[violet smelt]

Oh you made that custom?

Nice

[willow sage]

yep, fighting with it for 11h for now

[violet smelt]

Very cool

[willow sage]

Thanks, slowly eliminating every issue

next hecking one

[calm rune]

That would be a weight paint issue haha

[narrow chasm]

Dumb question but how do i snap to the player when i press play in the editor?

[calm rune]

check this.

[narrow chasm]

Hahahhahah

xD

[willow sage]

Nice 😄

[terse star]

Hello, I can't get my object to show up in the Zeus (Game master), what is needed to have it showing up ?

[loud glacier]

Hello, I am back with another question how would I fix this? I looked around and ultimately couldn't find anything. It could be something with the model cause I quickly made this, and because of that I may have missed something in blender

[tulip sail]

mm cant get a helmet to import with its bones...

[willow sage]

Check for bones first, few hours ago i just have been guided that model should have 163 of them

Just make sure in 1st place

[tulip sail]

has zero for some reason they are not importing with it lol

[willow sage]

Bendy knee, don't fcuk with me

[narrow chasm]

my Helmet resets everytime i spawn it

[willow sage]

check for widow or vergy skeleton on this channel

Guys, how to add another texture to same model

im not able to duplicate model

[last hill]

If memory serves, you can change the material via prefab? I am not at the PC. About to head to work for the day, good luck with it

[digital vector]

Does anyone know how to move the scene_root? https://gyazo.com/cbec576e2837785c61ca1fe0e0a94a61

[narrow chasm]

Getting better XD

[bitter quartz]

Does anyone know why my models get imported upside down?

[swift goblet]

theres any tutorial on how to import vehicles?

[tacit eagle]

Okay guys I got now proper Skeleton used, I got weighting done, I exported model, impoted into enfusion

checked how many bones i got

and the problem is still there

anyone have a clue how to fix it?

[bitter quartz]

what do you mean by that? in blender it seems correct

[tacit eagle]

I am trying already second day to fix this problem and it just doesnt want to be resolved...

[tacit eagle]

You found a way?

[calm rune]

Make sure you uncheck leaf bones and set the smoothing to edge.

when exporting

[tacit eagle]

i will be back in 5, once i try to report the outcome

just to confirm

when I export the model, i must select the skelet too? After weighting?

[tacit eagle]

the problem is still there

even after doing what you said

it keeps following me, but doesnt stick to body, nothing

and its reverse too 😂

[daring blade]

where do I get the sample model for adjusting proportions?

[calm rune]

If it is just floating then there has to be a weighting issue.

[tacit eagle]

I did the automatic weighting and it says its being done, since i dont have a clue how to do it

[tacit eagle]

give me second

[calm rune]

Hmmmm

[tacit eagle]

@daring blade you can use that one for proportions

[tacit eagle]

you need any Screenshot to provide or?

[daring blade]

Ahh okay! Awesome

[tacit eagle]

@calm rune

this is how my model looks with

thats what is selected when exporting

[daring blade]

Wait where is that located?

[tacit eagle]

Samples downloaded from Arma Reforger website (Link to GitHub) > SampleMod_NewCharacter>Assets>Characters>SampleCharacter

[daring blade]

https://github.com/BohemiaInteractive/Arma-Reforger-Samples

[calm rune]

See I never do automatic weights. I data transfer all mine.

[tacit eagle]

that one

[tacit eagle]

uh thats gonna kill me haha

[daring blade]

thanks so much, I was looking all over on the bohemia wiki thing lol

[tacit eagle]

i dont know anything about weighting

[daring blade]

never thought to look on their actual website

[calm rune]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OTDnUST-uMY&ab_channel=Vi6DAMVKing

[tacit eagle]

yeah i saw that but i dont get the point, I need some explanation why do we paint specific parts for what reason etc so would know to do it on my model

I am Game Developer hahah sadly not an 3d Artis

[calm rune]

No no that is a video showing how to data transfer them. No need to paint anything.

[bitter quartz]

How do i change the optics recoil to be vertical instead of horizontal?

[tacit eagle]

so what is actualy data transfer for models?

@calm rune if i got it right, i do automatic weight than i do data transfer

or shoud i go directly to data transfer

[narrow chasm]

even tho i importet the bones correctly i get thishttps://media.discordapp.net/attachments/959775852596461618/978059400507957308/unknown.png

[tacit eagle]

i mean i do still need bones within enfusion

[tacit eagle]

i can feel you bro

hahaha

have a problem already for 2 days

[narrow chasm]

OOf

[narrow chasm]

Problem is in the "Tutorial Video" he says 163 bones

i have 241

[tacit eagle]

where to see that Tutorial Video

can i get link?

all I used, is a chat with someone to get my model exported rigged and everything into enfusion ahhaha

[narrow chasm]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rCrO5VmcYVM

@tacit eagle

[bitter quartz]

Any clues? the recoil is just violently horizontal but only with the optics on it

[tacit eagle]

yeah , still dont have a clue

hahaha

[dim gate]

i do believe you need to attach a Armature modifier to your model

Armature modifier
select depency bone to your model
do not apply

that's what i did for the weapons i imported

[bitter quartz]

You mean me or rick?

[dim gate]

both

[plucky rover]

bones are importing into enfusion without weight data

[bitter quartz]

but how does the armature modifier change the recoil of a sight?

[dim gate]

bleh i misread teh post, sorry patrick

[bitter quartz]

np ^^

[dim gate]

for your problem, this might be located in your scope prefab

tho that is strange because recoil is dependent of the weapons, not the scope

[bitter quartz]

the vanilla M14 with the optics seems to perform just fine

the weapon has no changed recoil values

[dim gate]

did you made a duplicate of an existing scope or made one from scratch by using a base prefab ?

[bitter quartz]

made one from scratch

[dim gate]

^there we go, open a vanilla scope prefab and compare it to yours, you might have some different value that is wrecking everything

[bitter quartz]

and applied the components needed, especially "SCR_"DPIPSightsComponetn"

yep let me check

so i basically got highly inspired by the vanilla scope, so there shouldnt be much different

[queen pike]

almost done https://i.imgur.com/XdPSfdW.png

[pine flame]

MuzzleComponet - aim modifiers - recoil

[white sigil]

in import setting try "Export Scene Hierarchy"

[tulip sail]

how do you hide ur helmet when ur using ur sights? as mine gets in my face so u cant see where ur aiming lol

[tacit eagle]

tried, not working

i tried also with headgear

following tutorial

something i do wrong

what do I , god knows

[white sigil]

are you using Blender ?

[tacit eagle]

yeah

i followed video, i did everything, Automatic weighting also

checked everything what video said

but it is just denying to work

[blazing agate]

hey I tried to make the collision of the mesh, exported succesfully in to Enfusion with the propper Emat and physic material, but i dont get it to collide with the player in the map editor

that's the mesh Im working with

[blazing agate]

any idea?

[hidden yarrow]

Add rigid body component?

[blazing agate]

it was that, thank you!

[daring condor]

Amogus

[plucky rover]

how do i get the memory points to be children of w_root? is there something i'm missing here?

[daring blade]

alright guys new to blender here, how do I just click on the bone to see if the weights are painted to it?

It's just kinda doing nothing

[plucky rover]

you paint vertex weights onto vertex groups on the mesh you want to be deformed by the bone

[daring blade]

yep

so when it's 99.9% applied to Head, how do I click the head bone to move to check and see if those vertex groups are doing what they're doing

[plucky rover]

if you're in weight paint mode simply clicking on the vertex group will show you what is influenced by that vertex group

[daring blade]

https://i.imgur.com/yZzloAI.png

[plucky rover]

posing the mesh also works when you go back into weight paint mode

[daring blade]

object mode, edit mode, weight paint mode, what ever how do I get to pose mode? XD

[plucky rover]

click on your rig

then change the mode to pose

[daring blade]

when I click on my rig it does nothing

oh where is that

[plucky rover]

where you normally click to change to edit mode

[daring blade]

https://i.imgur.com/gxJFzuM.png

thats all I see

[daring condor]

There's also a partnered blender discord if you need help with the basics

[plucky rover]

select the rig and only the rig

[daring condor]

Partnered with discord

[daring blade]

I'm just clicking the rig idk I'm not trying to wait for the stars to align and then spin 360 degrees and tap my nose

https://i.imgur.com/n41lNRs.png

[plucky rover]

that's not the rig

that's a bone

the rig has this icon

select your rig and change to pose mode, then you can select the head bone and adjust it accordingly.

[daring blade]

Yep xD wow

thank you so much ❤️

[plucky rover]

np

[daring blade]

It's working 😄

Okay is there a fill option when painting verts? or like apply to all 100%?

[plucky rover]

you can do that from edit mode by assigning vertices to a vertex group

that will set the vertex's influence to 100% on that group

[daring blade]

ahhh okay so like this https://i.imgur.com/4NwENLg.png

[plucky rover]

yes

[daring blade]

sweet thanks again

[plucky rover]

yup

finally 😄

[dim gate]

can you tell me how you managed to do that ?

also for some reason my bones position have to be changed drasticaly, when i put a weapon on the map everything is out of place

but not when it's in preview

[plucky rover]

i had to parent the memory points to the w_root bone

[tacit eagle]

Icant export this,it say no mine mesh

[plucky rover]

something even the example doesn't do

i'm going to import a more complex mesh though for actually trying to make a working prefab

i just wanted something easy haha

[sick shard]

think of weight painting as your muscles and bones as well your bones lol you need muscles to move and make smooth transitions is the best way I can describe it it's mainly needed everything needs it but it depends on the type of model if it's only going in one directions you don't need to modify the weights it can be a straight solid color but something more complex like a body or clothing needs to be weight painted since it needs to look smooth and stretchy

[split rampart]

tutorial revolvo

[plucky rover]

tutorialkarev

smile

[sick shard]

anyone know how to fix this issue

[gloomy stump]

how do i open a FBX in workbench?

[daring blade]

right click it - register and import

[plucky rover]

either add it to your addons folder and right click it to register and import or by using the import dialog at the bottom

[gloomy stump]

got it thank you

[daring blade]

Alright so I'm making this hat right, how do I make it so that it's not in the view of the player? xD

https://i.imgur.com/vD05qFg.png I've tried messing with these settings on the material

[plucky rover]

I'd imagine it's something to do with the layer

[gloomy stump]

Can I apply textures to my XOB inside the workbench>

?*

[plucky rover]

you can apply textures yes, but you will have to have a material slot for that texture to assign to

[tacit eagle]

i am once again asking if any one has found a way to hide the helmet in first person so it doesnt fuck with the camera

[gloomy stump]

Do you guys know any opacity maps for glass?

[daring blade]

I'm also asking the same question haha

[plucky rover]

are the helmets in the base game not invisible in first person?

[tacit eagle]

idk i just followed the recommendation to replace a ingame model so i figured it would still have the same settings

[daring blade]

bro I doubt you've had this issue playing the base game lol https://i.imgur.com/3yJ5O3a.png

[plucky rover]

i imagine there's some kind of occlusion happening somewhere in a scripted component

[daring blade]

There's an override meshes to hide, area occluders, but they're drop down addons with a text field, and I wouldn't know what to add in there lol

If it's obvious somewhere I'm sorry I just don't see it

[plucky rover]

you could type in the name of the mesh into the text field maybe

perhaps it just checks for the name or something

[worldly gale]

You need to assign a opacity texture to the material and check 2 boxes in the opacity settings

[daring blade]

https://i.imgur.com/vD05qFg.png these two?

[worldly gale]

yes

[daring blade]

yeah they still don't hide the object 😦

[worldly gale]

is there a opacity texture

[daring blade]

yes

[worldly gale]

then its a prefab issue

[daring blade]

hmm

[gloomy stump]

I made the opacity map and it doesnt even work for my model

[worldly gale]

one of the components is used to apply the opacity

make sure there is a material paramitic or something component

[daring blade]

I took the PASGT helmet base prefab to test

[honest wave]

Gonna import this gear into Arma reforger

Essentially

Do not fear, bozo patrol is here

[daring blade]

Yeah like I said I can't f ind it anywhere in this prefab, I have no idea what I am looking for

[plucky rover]

u need that

set user param alpha to 0

[daring blade]

I tried messing with that it just changes the thickness of the mask

It was default to 0

[plucky rover]

is your mesh material accepting alpha

[daring blade]

Yes

[plucky rover]

i've really got no idea that's all i had rip

[gloomy stump]

https://gyazo.com/57a466bad12c5a25a35cc5574ddfa30b

This fishbowl still is not transparent

I think i did my opac map correctly

[plucky rover]

why are your textures named so weird

[gloomy stump]

IDEK

i imported them into my files and workbench added that text infront of my filenames

https://gyazo.com/843533e8e03ebf6816a2419c6c4d6975

they normal in there though

[daring blade]

So I checked the helmet and I see how they did it now lmao https://i.imgur.com/zKi1twd.png

It could be your export settings from what ever program you're making the glass in. That's so weird lol

[gloomy stump]

oh im getting these errors

https://gyazo.com/130fdcec1ef3d10a71b5b322a8ce13c8

[plucky rover]

lol

your textures need to be a scale of 2

[daring blade]

yeah textures need to be 512, 1024, 2048, 4096 etc lol

[plucky rover]

2048, 4096, 256, etc

the dds format requires it for compression and mipmapping

[daring blade]

So I've found a wonderful fix for people wearing my hat

I've made a front, back, side, and sideways varients. x'D

https://i.imgur.com/uGbnf9H.png

[plucky rover]

put a button on the screen that lets you rotate it

that would be funny

[daring blade]

Right?! xD

or just automatically turn when you zoom in

[plucky rover]

make it to where holding the button changes the rotation on the fly so you can make your hat helicopter

run up to people with your hat spinning in circles

[swift goblet]

There's a thing that doesn't show models when wearing in first person

[daring blade]

Like use brackets or something lol

I would love to know what it is 😄

[swift goblet]

I dont remember which was, but there's a way

It was something with a material

[daring blade]

well scroll up we explored a bunch of em already

[gloomy stump]

what img ext are supported?

[daring blade]

I would just stick to the basics, png, tga, tiff

[gloomy stump]

it keeps saying my textures are corrupted or unsupported even though they are pngs

ima try tga

[daring blade]

did you change the size of the image to what we said?

[gloomy stump]

typ

yup*

[daring blade]

danng

[plucky rover]

is it giving you the same error or a different error

[gloomy stump]

the TGA works now

yet my BCR is lookin weird..

[plucky rover]

TGA as a format is weird

good luck with that one

[gloomy stump]

it automatically put a black bar in my texture

https://gyazo.com/6846e1bd3c585fd76c37446541cdd0fc

and then this weird gradient

unfortunately my opac map still doesnt work

[daring blade]

The texture needs to be tilable too so square

[gloomy stump]

my textures are a 1024x1024 single colour square

one is light blue and the opacity map is a gray for right now

[daring blade]

why is this texture you sent 646 x 416

[gloomy stump]

its just a screen shot of the imported BCR texture zoomed in

because it isnt a single colour anymore

its that weird colour gradient

[daring blade]

what program are you using the save textures?

[gloomy stump]

paint.net

too shitty of a program i assume then huh?

[daring blade]

No no, I would just try gimp if anything lol

[plucky rover]

paint.net would work, although it would be helpful if you'd established your file size before starting

trying to resize a canvas to a power of 2 and then moving everything around sounds like a hassle, probably better to just do it again

especially if you aren't familiar with the program

[gloomy stump]

I'm familiar with paint, My texture is literally just blue so nothing to move around... I just don't understand why the TGA is screwed up

[plucky rover]

did you like, change anything before you exported as tga?

[gloomy stump]

nope lol

[plucky rover]

cause otherwise the dimensions should be exactly the same

[astral oar]

Just so everyone knows you can make brand new grenades

[plucky rover]

good

still working on the tokarev

[astral oar]

Forgot to say we figured it out today in terms of making a el gato smoke

[plucky rover]

b o o l e t s

[astral oar]

[plucky rover]

tactical el gato

can you make a small crewmate that flashbangs you on impact

quality LODs

[astral oar]

figuring out props atm

that people can pickup

for RP stuff

[daring blade]

if you need a dumb hat that says bamf on it lmk xD

[tulip sail]

whats the naming convention for the collision meshes? i named it UCL_cylinder but didnt seem to come in with mesh lol

[astral oar]

UCX_Nameyouwant

[tulip sail]

that did it cheers

[plucky rover]

#enfusion_model message

pins has the name schema

make sure you check for errors cause UCL might've failed because your cylinder wasn't cylindrical enough

[tulip sail]

whats the invalid layermask mean in the clliders bit?

[plucky rover]

not sure

[daring blade]

So after I've modelled and everything is wearable on the character. How do I send this to people?

[tulip sail]

mm how do u hide the helmet u have on from ur camera view? seems like the other helmets do this.

worked out it. added the opacity mask that is on the other helmets lol

[narrow chasm]

how do i make transparent "windows"?

[plucky rover]

axis dominance between blender and enfusion is super annoying

I keep having my memory points come in at a 90 degree offset lol

[sly bridge]

this channel is called enfusion_model_makers with an emphasis on makers so my answer is valid. Best way to make sure a character mesh fits to both the bespoke skeleton and the template mesh is to actually make it on your own.

secondly, we are seeing an alarmingly number of ripped and/or downloaded content (despite the license not allowing redistribution) being used for various mods

Do not confuse my moderator status with my model maker status, also do not confuse helping people make stuff with helping people solving issues they have created by themselves while using meshes they didn’t make on their own

[calm rune]

I agree with about 30% of what you said, carry on.

[sly bridge]

it is still 100% irrelevant what you agree with

[spiral veldt]

Hello 3D artist here 👋 anyone know where to get the arma reforged character model at so I can create equipment for mods? Not sure if this is the appropriate channel to ask but thought I’d give it a shot.

[calm rune]

That is your opinion.

[plucky rover]

@sly bridge question for you, as far as PBR masking goes, do you know how to create masks for specular and roughness? Or do I have to seperate metallic materials from nonmetallic materials?

[sly bridge]

#reforger_samples

[sly bridge]

i don’t get the question. PBR method used by enfusion is metal-roughness, afaik there is no specular in the mix. The metalness map defines what is and what isn’t metal

full black is non-metal

[plucky rover]

That's where my question lies, I can find a modifier for roughness scale but not somewhere to actually insert a metalness map

Only BCR, opacity, and NMO

[sly bridge]

M from NMO = metalness

[astral oar]

to not see your helmet in FP for anyone make sure to have headclipping on your opacity map

as well as both alphas checked

[plucky rover]

ah ok, i was misunderstanding what to slot into NMO, thank you

I thought it was XYZ data for normals or something similar

[calm rune]

Substance painter export setting for enfusion. If you use subtance that is. @plucky rover

[plucky rover]

need to buy substance, my trial expired, lmao

prob will do that soonish

[sly bridge]

so it is RGBA texture, where R+G- normals x+y, B - metalness, A - AO

[spiral veldt]

Thank you @sly bridge

[plucky rover]

ah ok, that's certainly going to be hell to actually do using anything other than substance

[sly bridge]

it’s on the wiki, but as i am on the phone, you’ll need to search that yourself

[plucky rover]

I've been having a horrible time actually trying to find anything on the wiki but i'll try to scour it again

a lot of tutorial links go nowhere

[sly bridge]

not really, i have already did quite a few conversions for my older rhs A3 files directly in photoshop, for the content i textured in quixel before substance even was a thing

[plucky rover]

well, the two i clicked anyway

I can try to do it using photoshop but i thought photoshop used 3 axis normals

[sly bridge]

not for texture creation, but for texture assembly. You can set a layer to fill just a single channel

as you can have a project done where you exported the project texture files, but you then need to assemble the enfusion BCR / NMO files, and that is pretty much easy to do in PS

even for content that was made using pbr spec gloss for instance

[plucky rover]

ah yes.

tutorials.

I'll figure out a way to do 2 axis normals that's manageable, and you gave me the channels so I can do the compositing in PS like you said anyway

[mental onyx]

Get a student license

[plucky rover]

so BCR is just the color data for the mesh, right? or does the alpha channel get used for something else

if i was a student, i would get a student license.

[mental onyx]

Im on my 2nd year of student license since you can renew each year

I am not a student. Not officially anyway

I Just put "Selftaught" in the school name. Or "Homeschooling"

[sly bridge]

BCR - RGB - albedo, A - roughness

BCR - stands for base color roughness

[plucky rover]

alright cool, thank you.

so BCR is base color roughness, and I'm assuming NMO is normal metalness and occlusion?

[sly bridge]

also note that the workbench has tooltips if you hold 2s mouse over things

quite useful

[plucky rover]

I had noticed the tooltips!

[sly bridge]

yes

[plucky rover]

just not all of them are very good.

so did you happen to have a method for converting 3 axis normals to 2 axis normals?

[tacit eagle]

?

you just remove the blue channel

done

ez

[plucky rover]

that works?

alright

didn't realize you could just trash an entire axis with no consequences

[tacit eagle]

iirc its how all Dx normals are, i could be wrong but only openGL normals come with a blue channel that means anything

[tacit eagle]

its rebuilt in-engine normally

[plucky rover]

this was a 3ds project so it could possibly be opengl normals

guess i'll find out when they look scuffed as fuck

[lethal seal]

😳

[swift goblet]

why importing vehicles need so much things?

on arma 3 was faster and you needed less things

[sly bridge]

it’s not more things, it’s different pipeline

[swift goblet]

i had been like for 8 hours trying to understand how it works

[swift goblet]

im making the animations from 0 becouse all animations doesnt work

bc everyone is vehicle dependent

[plucky rover]

things do be a bit crazy

[swift goblet]

the worst is going backwards

and as i didnt did backups, i need to start again

[dense plover]

Keep at it champ, you'll figure it out

[swift goblet]

im having problems with the stock animations

so i had to make new animations

[terse star]

Hello, I can't get my prefab to show up into the Zeus, what is the key thing to get it showing up ?

[spring pond]

does anyone know how to add peaceable entity to the zeus object list? ive created new flag post prefab and added it to the Configs\Editor\PlaceableEntities\Objects\Structures_Military.conf that i override in my project but despite that i dont see new object on the list (in game)

[spring pond]

hehe same issue

[willow sage]

Do it like this, and Hi 🙂

[spring pond]

aint gonna work as im talking about adding flag post to the zeus list of objects that he can spawn

its odd cuz i did it same way as i did addition of soldiers (which works) but for some reason adding peaceable entity doesnt 🤷‍♂️

[terse star]

You don’t understand his issue 😄

[willow sage]

Like almost everything here 😄

My bad!

[astral oar]

Would model makers want a video on everything I have currently learned

All the player outfits and slots, arsenal stuff, making new grenades, and just general stuff to know as well as how to weight paint and what to look for when making a new piece of gear

[swift goblet]

someone has been able to import a vehicle?

[winter current]

It's quite easy to import a vehicle, the only drastic change is animations but it's not exactly mandatory

if you want to match the default vehicles quality and level of detail then yeah, you'll need to make custom ones

[swift goblet]

im having problem with the animations

when i add the animation to open doors for some reason the interior goes down with the colliders and the car breaks

[winter current]

It's probably the armature, make sure it's setup correctly

check for the blender bug and see if you have an extra root bone on it

[swift goblet]

nope i dont have

at least havent found

[tidal latch]

Armature is not going to affect you if you are making custom anims

how did you tried to add animations btw? Did you created new animation workspace?

[swift goblet]

yes

i made a new entire workspace

and added manually every animation

i havent made custom anims yet, but probably will do

[queen pike]

Am I the only one who can't reimport .fbx or textures in enfusion tools? And I have to delete and re-add objects each time instead of reimport with "reimport" button

[swift goblet]

the anim works well with that exception that all colliders go to the floor and that the

interior goes a bit down

[tidal latch]

how did you skinned/rigged collider?

[swift goblet]

some i just ctrl+C the ones from the sample and then i moved the vertex

and other 2 i copied the segment and erased almost all vertex making it low poly and then renamed the object

[tidal latch]

and what type of colliders are those? If they are not UTM, then you have to use relations in Blender https://community.bistudio.com/wiki/Arma_Reforger:Weapon_Creation#Setting_skeleton_.26_rigging_mesh

[swift goblet]

all the ones i added are UTM

theres no message on the workbench that something was skinned to root bone

[bitter quartz]

How do i export the model with textures from blender into enfusion?

[tidal latch]

can you share some pics how your model look like?

[swift goblet]

yes

[tidal latch]

and are your colliders skinned to something then?

[swift goblet]

yes

all are utm

[tidal latch]

and are skinned to root bone?

[swift goblet]

didnt checked

there are some that are not utm but they are ctrl+c ctrl+v from sample

im taking photos

[bitter quartz]

Any Idea why some faces are like "one-ways" https://imgur.com/a/NKn06JU

[dense plover]

Normals are flipped probably

[dim gate]

^that

[swift goblet]

try invert them

[bitter quartz]

Ahh, ok

[swift goblet]

https://imgur.com/ANZOeXB

[dim gate]

select all > normal > recalculate outside

to make it quicker

[swift goblet]

https://imgur.com/CtibSPA

[bitter quartz]

Works, thank you 👍

[tidal latch]

and how does it look in game?

[swift goblet]

when im not inside it, its perfect

when i go up it messes

depending on which animation i put on my workspace is how mess is

im opening game

[bitter quartz]

The materials are always just plain white

[tidal latch]

did you used export profiles when doing like door or steering wheel animations?

Perhaps your animations are all mixing each other

if you are doing i.e. door animation, you only want to export door bone transformations

[queen pike]

How do you guys reimport .fbx (or .xob) into workbench if you made changes in model and exported .fbx?

[swift goblet]

https://imgur.com/U3lxzEu

[swift goblet]

im using uaz animations

[tidal latch]

that is not going to work

[swift goblet]

(the doors are diferent color becouse i put different material to test color)

[swift goblet]

thats for door opening

[tidal latch]

UAZ have different bone positions and things like that - you have to make animations for everything from scratch

[swift goblet]

https://imgur.com/6hwb3qY this is only using samples animations

[tidal latch]

again, you have to make ALL animations from scratch unless skeleton is identical (position wise) on both models

[swift goblet]

oh ok :C

samples animation works well for everything except the wheels :c

and the trunk

which i fix moving it to v_body

[eager hill]

It works. Now only need to make proper textures for this scope

[bitter quartz]

Where can I apply a texture to a material?

[swift goblet]

well i will have to animate all cars i will import :P

[eager hill]

And also one with illuminated reticle

[fathom bolt]

Nice and we gonna have some problem with other scope like i've made a scope for my weapon its working but when i put the ARII in my weapon its bugged i see the bottom

[broken grove]

https://twitter.com/MiroHorvath/status/1528691061446565888

Miro Horvath (@MiroHorvath)

We worked hard to support our community of #ArmaReforger modders while creating game assets in Blender. Enfusion Blender Tools provides handy features, but I'm personally the most proud of Materials Preview that allows to import your FBX asset with @EnfusionEngine shaders. #b3d

Twitter · May 23, 2022, 10:55 AM

[fathom bolt]

that why its bugged in fact we need to adjust the optic for a specific gun

[fathom bolt]

it's beautiful when i see something in substance painter its the same in the game

[eager hill]

isn't it enough to just move camera higher as I explained yesterday? I think it'd work for every gun you put it on

[fathom bolt]

Yes and no like if you made an optic for the m16 and after attach it to the ak it's gonna be broken again

[eager hill]

I'll try that

[tidal latch]

there is bug with Pivot ID & PIP optics - you can use "Offset" instead of Pivot ID for the time being

[mental onyx]

This almost seems like an oversight, in A3 you just configure the optic separately and with the jointrails its attachable and works with every gun in the game mod or not.

[fathom bolt]

or its just not in game yet

like suppressor

[tidal latch]

moving camera up is not proper solution

[mental onyx]

Thats actually a thing I haven't understood yet with Reforger, with the prefabs. Can I not pickup a barebones gun in the arsenal and attach whatever attachments I want? Or do I have to select a prefab with the attachments I want?

Like I saw on your stream the other day @tidal latch You made 5 prefabs for the exact same gun, just different attachment setups.

[eager hill]

What I've found yesterday is that position of PIP camera is determined by Camera Point in 2DSights settings of SCR_2DPIPSightsComponent

[tidal latch]

you can attach optics in game

[fathom bolt]

You can attach all optic you want u just need to accept the attachment categorie

[tidal latch]

that's not correct observation

[fathom bolt]

so 1 optic prefab for 1 weapon

[mental onyx]

Guess I havent found where this is, because my modded gun can only attach/detach the scope I put in the attachment component prefab

[fathom bolt]

so if you want the ARII on your weapon u need to duplicate the prefab and setting correctly

[eager hill]

well, that's how that works. If you move it back in Z axis you'll have camera behind the scope, therefore you'll be able to see scope twice

[mental onyx]

Yeah alright so it does work how I thought it did then

[fathom bolt]

i've make custom attachment like grips/suppressor

[mental onyx]

Same

[fathom bolt]

let me check

[tidal latch]

yes, but you are taking wrong conclusion from that

camera position should be at the end of the scope - where outer glass is

[fathom bolt]

https://imgur.com/a/LL3AlkL like this

its my optic prefab

[mental onyx]

I try that but get a super glitched sightpicture that floats waaay below my gun

[tidal latch]

if you see inside of the weapon, that is because of the Pivot ID bug

[mental onyx]

Ah alright thats why then 🙂

[eager hill]

That's what I mean

[fathom bolt]

pretty cool

😄

[eager hill]

I suspect it's not a correct way to set it, but for now it seems to be the only one working

[mental onyx]

https://i.imgur.com/BP1ePpK.jpg Here is my sightpicture with the camera position where its supposed to be, right at the center end of my scope.

[tidal latch]

if you will set Offset in the weapon, instead of Pivot ID, then camera will be in correct position

[mental onyx]

Still I am able to see the underside of my suppressor 😅

[mental onyx]

I will try that as well thanks!

[fathom bolt]

but move the offset move the position of the optic

[tidal latch]

yes, notice that Pivot ID is not used - optic itself is positioned ONLY via offset

[fathom bolt]

oh i've understand

Pivot ID doesnt work so its take the position by the offset

[deep pawn]

Hopefully I can get some help. I want to start making mods, I'm a beginner but want to try small. Question is... how do I access the modding tools? I can't find them anywhere. Not gamemaster, but actual modding tools.

[eager hill]

By default steam doesn't show such things in your library. There should be a checkbox in a dropdown menu above the list of all games you have that says tools or something like that

[swift goblet]

Fixed: Inherit prefab in addon action disabled on read-only data
LETS GOOOOO I WAS WAITING THAT!! Ty BI

no more creating prefab for just changing uaz colors xD

[deep pawn]

Thank you so much!

[digital vector]

Hello, there really is no way to change the position of scene_root in a skeleton?

[slender steeple]

@bright raft i love your mk18 👍

[willow sage]

There is a way to add textures to prefabs that use same model ?

I mean multiple textures ?

[bright raft]

Thank you :)))

[neat canopy]

Hey, where exactly can I set the .gamemat for my colliders in blender?

[neat canopy]

oh thx have seen that but I can´t choose anything in the two menus. It say´s only "none"

[broken grove]

have you followed the installation steps?

[neat canopy]

I will look it up again 😅

[terse venture]

Im new to Blender an 3D modelling but since its a new game and i love learning new stuff, im trying to create Models for Arma, i noticed that Polycount is a thing and want to ask what amount is the best or maximum i should use ? And Polycount are these only vertices or other things aswell ?

[sly bridge]

best bet is to check against vanilla content

[daring condor]

Polycount is the number of triangles, not verts

[pliant pendant]

not necessarily

if a model is not triangulated, polygon count will be different from triangle count

[sly bridge]

this ^

[pliant pendant]

usually you should just go by triangle count

I don't think we've had any official guidelines for reforger models yet

[daring condor]

That's what I mean

Blender tells you the triangle count

And number of faces

[sly bridge]

it also depends on engine, vert count is just as usable, and that's one of the reasons you usually have both displayed (tris and verts)

[daring condor]

The triangle count is relevant

Not the number of faces

And with polycount

As low as possible while preserving the level of detail you want

[broken grove]

you can learn from existing assets

[fathom bolt]

Weapons :

AK = 15 926 faces (triangulates)
M24 = 19 715 faces (triangulates)
M16 = 14 325 faces (triangulates without handguard)
SVD = 19 081 faces (triangulates)

Vehicles :

BTR body = 165 016 faces (triangulates)
UAZ469 = 78 121 faces (triangulates)

[daring condor]

Normals, diffuse and AO will help you get details without geo

[daring condor]

Ak is Def more than 5k

[terse venture]

Ok thanks alot to all for helping 🙂

[hidden yarrow]

You sure about the BTR body? When i looked at it lod 0 was 165k vertices

[fathom bolt]

i'm stupid 1 minute

[broken grove]

this one is better as you can see polycount per LODs

[hidden yarrow]

https://streamable.com/ikyafi

[fathom bolt]

updated

[broken grove]

btw. we have #enfusion_blender_tools so ask EBT related questions there please 🙂

[fathom bolt]

updated

[hidden yarrow]

Sick

[neat canopy]

ok thx 🙂

[hidden yarrow]

IS THAT A SUPRAA

[glacial bobcat]

👀

[swift goblet]

the interactions are set through the actions manager component, btw, you have to know that you need to animate the wheels to import the car.

with actions manager you can set to enter the car, turn on engine, exit, change position, etc.

[neat canopy]

Fixed it! 🙂 thx

[glacial bobcat]

Ok thx but where is action manager? 😆

[swift goblet]

you set it on the prefab

[sly bridge]

@glacial bobcatwhere is the car file from?

[glacial bobcat]

the 3d model ?

[sly bridge]

yes

[glacial bobcat]

asseto corsa

[sly bridge]

where did you get the file from then?

@glacial bobcatfigured...

so, do not use ripped assets for mods

which is what it is

[glacial bobcat]

😐

[sly bridge]

this is gonna be a one time only warning, such files will be removed from both this discord and from any workshop page

@swift gobletwhere is that volvo 3d model from?

[glacial bobcat]

so you can delete 3/4 of the cars that will be the workshop because most come from similar sites, you weren't as boring on arma 3, whatever

[swift goblet]

turbosquid

[sly bridge]

link please?

[bright raft]

oh dear

[swift goblet]

https://www.turbosquid.com/3d-models/volvo-s90-2017-3d-model-1822207

im using for testing

[eager hill]

@sly bridge could you explain me how does the situation with logos and stuff like that looks? For instance as you could see above I'm working on Elcan Specter scope which has a big manufacturer logo on the side.

[sly bridge]

1,672,719 Vertices```
you are using it as it is?

[hidden yarrow]

DAMN

[bright raft]

Since you mentioned that. Will content on Workshop be somehow moderated? Asking because there is currently a lot of test stuff there

[swift goblet]

i used a modificator that makes it low poly

[sly bridge]

that is precisely what is going to happen

[hidden yarrow]

Its also turning people that made arma 3 mods away because there seems to be no moderation

[narrow chasm]

Does somebody have a bone setup for rifles?

[tacit eagle]

They already said it will be heavily and even the star wars mods might get pulled unless 100% custom assets

From my own talk with the devs though, Microsoft stuff seems to be fine because of GCUR

[swift goblet]

im not planing to put it on the workshop

[sly bridge]

yes, to my knowledge, it will be directly moderated by BI

[bright raft]

Thanks for clarifying

[hidden yarrow]

Great thanks for letting us know

[bitter quartz]

Which settings should I have here to export to enfusion? https://imgur.com/a/48P14rG

[hidden yarrow]

Custom properties

[sly bridge]

what is the question

[tacit eagle]

From what I've been told though people have already found a way to load mods without the workshops, but I haven't confirmed

[swift goblet]

technically you cant use their logo without their permission

[bright raft]

I think that logos do not matter much as it is user generated content

[swift goblet]

i dont know if bohemia is gonna moderate that

[bitter quartz]

And Forward and Up is correct so far?

[eager hill]

are we allowed to put logos and trademarks on models?

[swift goblet]

theres some companies that have licences for game usages

[hidden yarrow]

Not so sure about the rest

[sly bridge]

this isn't official BI stance, but ideally you should contact the company, make sure they are ok with copyright for your non-commercial work. You can however to create your own brand if you wanted to. also, if you check #ip_rights_violations discussion, this is part of the topic

[swift goblet]

for example, general motors cars allow the usage on videogames only if:
People inside of a GM automobile must wear seatbelts and may not be injured as a result of vehicle operation; pedestrians or animals may not be injured; and automobiles may not incur damage, catch fire, or explode.
You may not depict the GM brand with any of the following:
illegal drug use
sex, nudity
racism
graphic depiction of death, violence, or gore
foul or illicit language
The GM brand may not be depicted in any project involving injury to police.

[glacial bobcat]

So what can we do? cars without logo if I understood?

[swift goblet]

this is with turbosquid models

[sly bridge]

you create your own 3d models to begin with

[swift goblet]

like GTA 5

[hidden yarrow]

To add to this if I remember correctly ready or not named their EOTech “LEOtech” so you kinda get the idea not sure if its the same thing but i assume so

[broken grove]

you don't have to touch these, you're good to go with defaults

[sly bridge]

no, i mean like not using model ripped from games, as @glacial bobcat just tried to

[glacial bobcat]

rip

[sly bridge]

rip indeed

[hidden yarrow]

Literally AND figuratively

[eager hill]

sure, I'll check what's there. Will also try to contact Raytheon and ask whether they are fine with usage of their IP

[daring condor]

well there was that COD lawsuit

which gives some legal precedent

[swift goblet]

Pufu are we allowed to take the models of the helicopters of Arma 3 into Reforger?

[hidden yarrow]

No

Thats a rip

[swift goblet]

like the huron

[daring condor]

no, only from licensed data packages

[daring condor]

make your own

[swift goblet]

rip is when you do it without permission of the company

[hidden yarrow]

Anything thats not either made by you, purchased under a specific licence or with written permission you cant

Yea but their not gonna give their models away

[glacial bobcat]

https://tenor.com/view/travolta-desert-dry-drought-gif-20765263

the workshop

[wise gust]

Arma 3 Licensed Data Packs have not been released yet, so there is no legal way to even get the model source files; let alone a legal way to port them.

[daring condor]

based

[swift goblet]

so you will release it?

[daring condor]

bohemia cleaning up the trash

ripped shit is usually god awful anyways, no lods, poor materials

good riddance

[sly bridge]

yeah, for millitary vehicles, and in general for military gear

[wise gust]

It is likely the A3 LDP will be released at some point.

[thorny cobalt]

And you do not have permission, and you also cannot even access the source files. So even if you had permission you couldn't do it.
So the answer is obviously no

[tacit eagle]

And the GCUR will make all cod models usable when the Activision purchase goes through

[swift goblet]

of course but you could launch it as you did with Take On Helicopters Data Pack or Arma Licensed Data Pack

[glacial bobcat]

wrong, the asseto model I have has 3 lods and good textures

[daring condor]

good textures are not good mats

[hidden yarrow]

Yeah but optimised for a different engine

[tacit eagle]

I only know about halo rips. But we can pull all lods from mcc and Infinite.

Whether people use them or not is different tho

[thorny cobalt]

That might happen some day, and if it does, and it allows you to port stuff then port away

[glacial bobcat]

anyway you have to redo the materials

[daring condor]

just create your own models

[sly bridge]

are you actually continuing this discussion, despite the warnings received? This isn't gmod.

[glacial bobcat]

what are you talking about ? I respond to tek who said that the model rips were of poor quality and without lod

thek

[sly bridge]

the options in regards to models are

1. make your own, modding is a hobby, treat it like one
2. download free of charge (license allowing it) model from reputable sources, no ripped, no stoled model etc
3. buy the models using a license that allows you to inject them into a game engine and redistribute them (most basic license does not allow it most of the time)

[swift goblet]

about 1.
Remember not use IP

you can inspire by a car, but if it contains IP you cant use it

[sly bridge]

read the links @true dove posted in #ip_rights_violations

[glacial bobcat]

you could have pinned it rather than I don't bother importing everything etc 😅

[sly bridge]

pinned what?

[glacial bobcat]

that it has become forbidden to take game models

[tacit eagle]

Whats funny is on the steam community hub is pictures of people mass porting star wars battle front 2 models and halo models lol

[sly bridge]

it was always forbidden

[glacial bobcat]

oh i didn't know then 👍

[swift goblet]

halo has a license for non commercial use

[sly bridge]

now back on topic, and the topic isn't this one, if you wanna carry on, use #other_ip_topics

[tacit eagle]

Best way is to look at mods on nexus, most cod ports have a blurb and all halo mods quote the GCUR

[tacit eagle]

Yes the GCUR

Its not just halo it's all Microsoft IP's

Anyway, to a more on topic point. Has anyone started working on bullpup weapons? I haven't looked at the system yet but I imagine it needs custom animations

Or weapons like an Owen gun with a top mag?

Or an American 180

[hot pumice]

Anyone working on tracked vehicles atm, was curious if the func for track simulation was working or a placeholder

[hidden yarrow]

The sample is a bullpup i think

[tacit eagle]

There are samples? I've just been copying prefabs and replacing models for armors so I didn't look Into weapons

[hidden yarrow]

#reforger_samples

[slim silo]

Does this mean we can't retexure ingame models?

[fresh heart]

do you really intend to filter the models imported and published on the workshop? these impossible these practices will never stop

[mental onyx]

I asume they will do their best, and repeat offenders will Just get Booted from the workshop.

[last hill]

Hi guys, having a lot of problems, trying to set up the model I have been working with, but the rigging isn't working, I've just tried a few things, wondering if the character template is suitable to set up a Skin Wrap from and is there a way to combine all the body parts together from the character sample, while keeping the Skin modifier with all of the values?

[fresh heart]

the import represents 90% of the workshop and is used to feed the roleplay servers, the major part of the game sales are made thanks to this gameplay, these kind of kill the community, although I understand that these are not respectful towards the game developers third party

[reef sun]

Anyone tried the "Worn Materials Override" in BaseLoadoutClothComponent? It sometimes uses the new material and sometimes the old one.

[void lava]

How can i make my model to follow the terrain? I added land contacts but its not working

[swift goblet]

Which license has the sample new car?

[tidal latch]

https://github.com/BohemiaInteractive/Arma-Reforger-Samples/blob/main/LICENSE

[mental onyx]

Why cant the life community learn the creative skills needed to make things from scratch then?

[swift goblet]

Ty

[swift goblet]

Idk

I have a Lot of models Made from scratch that I'm planning to use on my life server

I dont have cars, so i downloaded one to test how to import cars into the game, but the cars on my life server Will be Made from scratch

I'm planning to do first the Map, then the scripting and last the vehicles

[smoky panther]

Time constraints perhaps, work, school, responsibilities etc

🤷🏻‍♂️

[glacial bobcat]

@mental onyx because not everyone has to learn a job because yes it is a job, of course people have the skills but it's rare, on arma 3 we made mods to make us happy and bring content to the community, so those who have enough motivation to learn modeling good luck to them for my part if we can't import I simply won't do anything ^^

[fresh heart]

Not everyone has the time, nor the talent, people like to come home from work to play and relax by playing their character, these are an alternative

[swift goblet]

I hope People do cars for the workshop that doesn't break IP and can be used while i make my life mod

It's just time

At one moment there would be enough vehicles to play

[mental onyx]

@glacial bobcat @fresh heart those are fair points, but if you dont have time to learn it and you Just want to chill and play the game. Then do Just that then, dont try and make mods that contain illegaly obtained assets that other people put their time and effort into.

[shut bloom]

well than explain to me how it is fair that people from the Life community are getting bashed. but the people making Star wars mods or Halo mods with stolen content get away or maybe a slap on the wrist ?

[swift goblet]

Halo has a licence for no commercial use

I dont know about Star wars

[mental onyx]

There has been some specific stuff I have wanted for the arma franchise for years, but eventually I understood that it was very unlikely to be made by anyone else. So I sat down and commited a couple of hours each day learning the softwares needed and I came out of it with the know how to make decent stuff on my own.

[glacial bobcat]

I understand for the people who created his models but they are available for download whether we use them or not they are still there but it's hypocritical, people were very happy to use all the content of the workshop nobody said to no I do not download because it comes from x game

[mental onyx]

Im not targeting any specific group of players

[shut bloom]

no it does not the Microsoft licence says that every content retrieved by reverse engineering is not allowed.

[sly bridge]

do you really intend to filter the models imported and published on the workshop? these impossible these practices will never stop
i do yes, and in fact even if these practices cannot 100% stop, they can surely be limited
he import represents 90% of the workshop and is used to feed the roleplay servers
90% is an exaggeration, but i am well aware of the main culprits.
the major part of the game sales are made thanks to this gameplay
not in the slightest

[fresh heart]

we also dedicate time and effort, less but we dedicate some for the community

[swift goblet]

There's a Lot of models that are Made from scratch free of halo

[mental onyx]

You do, and I appreciate all the time you dedicate into making the game better for everyone. But this is not an excuse to rip assets.

[swift goblet]

They even tried to make an entire game from scratch of halo

[fresh heart]

90% No, I'm not exaggerating on the numbers
See for yourself the number of milsim servers and role-playing servers

[glacial bobcat]

https://free3d.com/3d-model/low-poly-car-40967.html ok lets goo

[mental onyx]

You get what you pay for I guess 😅

[sly bridge]

yes, and?

[fresh heart]

I agree and do not say otherwise

[glacial bobcat]

yeah 😆

[sly bridge]

so, what you are both trying to argue is that using ripped assets should be just fine, because there are lifer users who couldn't care about IP rights, is that it?

[swift goblet]

IP it's something that you need to have care

[mental onyx]

I encourage you to try 3d. It is fun and extremely rewarding feeling when you make your visions come true in 3D

[sly bridge]

considering that this time around the mods are hosted directly by BI, there is a different commitment to keeping the workshop clean and tidy, and free of ripped content. Moreso, it is way easier to simply restrict user access to workshop, both in terms of uploading and downloading if that is required

[glacial bobcat]

houses why not but cars it's too much

[sly bridge]

what is too much?

i never said "cars" i said ripped assets

[swift goblet]

I love that 🤗

[fresh heart]

don't mix everything

[violet smelt]

I eat IP violations for breakfast

[sly bridge]

for the second time now, i do not get what is the point you are trying to make

mix what?

[mental onyx]

Look at this @glacial bobcat one of my first ever models. Looks the dog, but I made this the first couple of days learning the software. I also put it into A3 the same day.

[fresh heart]

the loss of player will be considerable

[swift goblet]

Looks like a decoration you could put on a wall

[swift goblet]

It Will not

[violet smelt]

@sly bridge Tell the devs to release the UH-1H already :[

[sly bridge]

i honestly doubt that. you, and everyone else is free to create / legally acquire / whatever cars you want

[shut bloom]

well it will if they take down every ip rights violation so everything with a brand name on it where the creator did not ask for permission.

[sly bridge]

someone definitely will in the end

[mental onyx]

Yeah it doesnt look particularly good at all. But it did the job and I was proud of what I had Just made. And not Even a month later I made this

Just trying to give people some motivation / encourage them to try 3d

[violet smelt]

What is that

🤔

A shovel?

[mental onyx]

If you are persistent and commited you can have very good progress in a month or two.

[violet smelt]

Looks like a tube

[glacial bobcat]

@sly bridge and if you take a model but you modify parts or you remove the mark is it still the same?

[fresh heart]

your can be 2000% sure

[swift goblet]

Just make cars that doesn't use brands like a Lot of games do

[mental onyx]

Yeah its a shovel

[violet smelt]

Hell yeah brother!

[shut bloom]

iam not talking about cars its everything.

[swift goblet]

See GTA, has a Lot of cars similar to real life cars, but they are not

[swift goblet]

Beauty, are you gonna import it to reforger?

[sly bridge]

for the Nth time, it is NOT about the branding / trademarks, it is about using stolen assets

so you do not take a model, you either buy one, or make one

[mental onyx]

Yeah I will eventually, but most of my work is focused around bolt action Rifles. And right now I have no clue how to properly implement them into Reforger seeing as there isnt a bolt gun in the basegame.

[swift goblet]

You can make them be single shot with low shot rate only AND do the remaining by animations

Maybe there's a better way to do them

But that's a way that should work

[violet smelt]

That was not conversation appropriate

[mental onyx]

Yeah I have done so, but havent really figured out how to do the anims yet

[violet smelt]

Sorry

[swift goblet]

Maybe not the best but works

[sly bridge]

2000% sure of what? that someone will actually create cars from scratch? there are already quite a few made for A3, way better than anything the life community has been using

[swift goblet]

You do them on blender and then you import them

[mental onyx]

Yeah that much I know, but I am not familiar with how you actually record the animations and use the armature etc

[fresh heart]

no that people are going to do like on arma 3

[swift goblet]

U use the timeline and create key frames

[sly bridge]

i can bet you that it will be a lot harder, which is for the best

[swift goblet]

Then it's only moving the bones on the pose mode

[sly bridge]

now let's go back to the subject at hand

[mental onyx]

Yeah I will have to look into that, where is the bones you import for that?

[swift goblet]

Mod quality will be greater but less mods

[sly bridge]

quality over quantity any day of the week

[swift goblet]

I use the bones from the samples

[mental onyx]

Are there any specific ones?

[swift goblet]

I agree

[swift goblet]

Character

[patent knoll]

is that the stance shooting thing I see the army and marine corps do?

[swift goblet]

For the movements of the weapon you have to create your own bones

As are bolt rifles you only need to animate 2 or 3 bones

You will need several animations to

[mental onyx]

Yeah its used both in civ shooting and military. Its a barricade for shooting drills. They have several name, but the most common is probably Vtac wall

[patent knoll]

good to know

[swift goblet]

Just 10 nice made cars are better than 100 shitty cars

[mental onyx]

Alright I definitely need to learn this at some point. As some of the Rifles are very very large 😅 and doesnt fit with the standard hand positions at all

[swift goblet]

Yeah you will need animate more bones for the character

But that one's are just moving a lot of bones

[mental onyx]

It sounds fairly easy

[swift goblet]

It's not hard, but takes time

[mental onyx]

This doesnt fit with the standard hand anims at all 😂

[swift goblet]

It's beautiful ❤️

[patent knoll]

def gonna need it though for my terrain

[swift goblet]

I want it for my life sv 🤣

[cosmic pumice]

Looks amazing though

[patent knoll]

also, I am once again asking if anyone is working on buildings/structures

[mental onyx]

My pack is very outdated, but on the A3 workshop there is a mod called FM Targets & Barricade pack. That contains several of these barricades as well as steel targets that animate when shot at and even gives you audible feedback from a hit.

I will eventually try and port this mod over to Reforger

[swift goblet]

I'm planning do on a future, not Right now

[mental onyx]

Appreciate the feedback 😄

[patent knoll]

Based. Looking forward to it

[sly bridge]

i sort of am, but it’s a long haul project

[patent knoll]

Camp Pendleton needs buildings!

I joke but can't wait to see em

[sly bridge]

this isn’t a request channel

[patent knoll]

I know

[eager hill]

I think I could go a bit over the top with amount of dirt on it

[sly bridge]

a bit, yes

[eager hill]

but adding dirt is so much fun

[sly bridge]

you can make it more random, and use procedural dirt generators just a a very subtle layering

[eager hill]

I used procedural, but then added a fill layer and used a dirt brush on it

Is there any way I could improve the scope's image? On 1.0 magnification it shouldn't be so distorted. As far as I know image in Specter should be almost as it is in real.

I mean, I shouldn't see that building on the left in scope

[lean spruce]

2 questions, if anyone can help:

1. how do I make prefabs spawnable in GM again? I had the link for it, but lost it.

2. how is ammo added to the ammunition boxes and how can I add my new ammo there?

[spring pond]

if you are talking about items then you want to look into Config\Arsenal<side specific arsenal file> and add it there

[lean spruce]

oh I can now override the configs since today's patch 🥳

[mental onyx]

Yeah that makes no sense

[spring pond]

if you are talking about soldier prefabs then you want to go to for eg. ArmaReforger/Configs/Editor/PlaceableEntities/Characters/Characters_OPFOR.conf

and lastly if you want to add objects then... i have no idea as thats what i have a problem with because adding object prefab to the Configs/Editor/PlaceableEntities/Objects/Structures_Military.conf doesnt work for some reason (prefabs added there wont showup in the game 🤷‍♂️ )

[lean spruce]

https://community.bistudio.com/wiki/Arma_Reforger:Asset_Browser_Mod_Integration

official docs since today

Will try it that way

[spring pond]

it seems that the camera that is 'recording' that image has wrong FOV so maybe look for that in the components

[eager hill]

I'm looking for that, but nothing seems to work so far

[spring pond]

what about this?

[eager hill]

it's for the icon in the inventory

that SCR component is for PIP scope effect

[spring pond]

thats efin wierd... i dont understand why an icon would need fov setting

[eager hill]

sometimes you need it bigger or smaller. It's quite useful actually

[spring pond]

but FOV stands for Field Of View... but thats irrelevant... so much to learn

[eager hill]

it's because icons in reforger are auto-generated, so we need a camera to take a picture of them. And obviously camera needs fov setting

I think I found it. It's called "Near plane" setting and it changes how much scopes shows. We can even look under the map with max setting of 1000

[mental onyx]

How do we know what value to use there?

Also is there really a max limit on 15x on variable zoom? 😦 I cant make my scope 3-20

[eager hill]

No idea. For now I'm just playing around with it

[mortal sentinel]

so how detailed do you guys make the gun in blender, and what details do you do in substance painter? I've seen that guys make the bumpy pistol grip texture in substance painter, instead of blender

maybe that's just easier in substance? not sure

[eager hill]

Personally everything I'm too lazy to model, I do in SP

[mortal sentinel]

any examples pls?

like what specifically

[eager hill]

Like this

That whole thing that goes to mag button is made in Substance Painter

[sly bridge]

i do everything in 3ds max for the HP if possible, minus the lasered text and the likes

[mortal sentinel]

oh ok, I've also seen screws being easily added in substance too

and laser texts too

[hidden yarrow]

Create it on your high poly then bake it onto your low poly

You should do that with as much as you can(with stuff that its possible for)

[mortal sentinel]

not sure what you mean. I've absolute noob with 3d

[hidden yarrow]

With the new engine you want your texture quality as good as you can make it

[mortal sentinel]

of course

[hidden yarrow]

Ill see if i can find a video for you

[queen pike]

I was too lazy and forgot to add bevels to the lowpoly model and ruined my first scope

and now i'm too lazy to fix it

[thorn topaz]

that is where bevel shaders come in handy

[hidden yarrow]

https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PLhFIZNti7xaBaxEBWdQVKJ_u7XCHWGuJX just kinda look around these videos its a good place to start

[thorn topaz]

and no skewing

[hidden yarrow]

Texture baking is a big one

[mortal sentinel]

thanks, I'll watch these

[mental onyx]

I always make the high poly model first, and after I am satisfied with that I make a copy of that high poly and delete out any part of the model that isnt defining its shape. So could be grooves, imprints, indentations etc. And I also remove all loop cuts I can without distorting it, and remove edge loops to decrease poly until I am satisfied both with how it looks as well as the polycount.

[mortal sentinel]

so that just means reducing the wireframe count? Or is that the same as polygons?

this is the first thing I've made so far, I know, not useful, mandatory donut

[sly bridge]

it isn't mandatory

[mental onyx]

Tbf thats a sick looking donut, not a bad start at all

[mental onyx]

We all know what he means tho

You can like or dislike blender guru, but its where most people start including myself.

[sly bridge]

there are a lot better tuts than this blokes

[queen pike]

https://i.gyazo.com/cc0972dd2f9562db9614c539ef4d1169.mp4 the final result (too lazy to fix small things)

[mortal sentinel]

thanks, looks tasty af

[slender steeple]

is anyone making a sniper rifle ? (bolt action)

[mental onyx]

I encourage you to link that instead of just saying it. Be constructive.

[mortal sentinel]

yes, links would be appreciated

[slender steeple]

#enfusion_model message (found it)

[mortal sentinel]

looks nice. Is that dot a bit off? Comparing the iron sights and where the dot is

[queen pike]

Yes, if I understand correctly, 1P63 is also slightly offset IRL

https://i.imgur.com/1cIEJci.png

[mental onyx]

@mortal sentinel I am very much a beginner myself, but this could give you an idea on details I've left out on the LP.

[sly bridge]

not the usual HP, considering this also has all the internals

[mental onyx]

That looks amazing

[mortal sentinel]

alright, got it, some screws, grooves etc that could be probably easier added in substance painter

[sly bridge]

depends on the accuracy you are after

[mortal sentinel]

jeez, with all the internals that you won't ever see in game, but looks nice

[mental onyx]

None of these details where added in Substance. They are baked over from the high poly of the same gun, should've probably explained that

[sly bridge]

it is not done like that for game purpose alone

i find that is easier to made things in 3d more accurately, and just add details like texts and small things in 3d

[mental onyx]

I agree, I have tried using a height brush in substance to paint on grooves etc. The results are never really that great.

[sly bridge]

say you have a pin going left to right, you will always guesstimate that if you do it by texture

[mortal sentinel]

right, makes sense

[mental onyx]

Look at the "grooves" on this spotting scope, this was painted on in Substance painter. It looks alright, but nothing spectacular.

[mortal sentinel]

the grips are also in substance painter, right?

I saw it has all kinds of texture generators that can be used for grips

[mental onyx]

Yeah

[mortal sentinel]

I'll probably need some help anyway if and when I'm done making a gun, there's so much to making it and getting it in game

another thing I'm worried about is making the gun fit in arma, so it doesn't look off but natural, if you know what I mean

I downloaded some rifle mod and it was obvious it looked lower quality than original M16

[mental onyx]

Yeah I find that a lot easier to do now with Enfusion and PBR shading. In A3 it was a pita going from what it looked like in Substance to something completely different looking ingame..

[dull yew]

you really do have a stick up your ass

[thorn topaz]

have you tried adding a blur filter to the groove height?

[mental onyx]

I haven not no, could try that out 🙂

[sly bridge]

:))) out of all the free blender begginer tutorials, the donut thing needs to be one of the worst, at least for game asset creation, if not for blender in general.

[dull yew]

i wont refute that lol

[thorn topaz]

back in my day we started with chairs and tables

at least that was the recommendation, but why start simple (smart) and easy when you can make it hard for yourself and shoot for the sky lol

[daring condor]

I would say it's one of the best beginner toturials since it goes over the UI in great detail

He's also been endorsed by the blender foundation for that reason

Dont really like his stuff but for a complete newcomer it's one of the best resources to get into the software

https://youtu.be/jnj2BL4chaQ

This is an alternative tutorial for complete newbs

[thorn topaz]

speaking of baking, namely normals, it is a lot of reading but here is a very in depth guide on the many issues you can encounter and how to get around/resolve them.
https://polycount.com/discussion/227743/baking-artifacts-90-degrees-on-curved-edges-help-me-understand-proper-high-low-modelling

[daring condor]

Also, baking on blender generally kinda sucks if you aren't used to the ui

I'd say even Xnormal is a nice upgrade depending on what you're doing

[eager hill]

even if you're used to it, baking in blender sucks. It's much faster in other software

[shut bloom]

you should not bake in any 3D Software they are mostly outdated. use Xnormal,Substance, or Marmoset

[mental onyx]

I agree its bad for game assets, but its meant to be an introduction to the software. Learn shortcuts and subd workflow. I did ask you to link what tutorial you think is better for a beginner, as we might have some people in here looking for that 😄

[daring condor]

True but cycles bevel shader is op

[daring condor]

Yes, I use substance personally

But not everyone has a student license

But depending on what I'm doing I might try to use blender for some stuff

[thorn topaz]

marmoset toolbag is great as well, self generating cages which you can scale in and out globally or manually, and paint out skewing.. seriously that painting out skewing

[shut bloom]

yeah but the substance Baker is not up to standards anymore. I would look into Marmoset trust me you will have so much more fun and allot better results.

[daring condor]

Marmotset expensive

[shut bloom]

yes but worth it

[daring condor]

🤷‍♂️

Happy with what I have right now

[thorn topaz]

tried it once, fell in love, prema part of the kit now

[daring condor]

Every software has their pros and cons

[shut bloom]

yeah but there is no downside to using marmoset.

[daring condor]

pricing

[hidden yarrow]

Yes there is

Money

[daring condor]

Does it do bevel bakes?

[sly bridge]

i'll do that tomorrow

[shut bloom]

what do you mean exactly it does not care about workflow. or how you approach a HP.

[mental onyx]

Thanks PuFu, please pin that in here as well. Might be useful for people looking at getting into modelling 🙂

[thorn topaz]

baking a bevel on the mesh by shader, no I don't believe it does

[daring condor]

Blender can do a shader based bevel bake

No geo needed

[hidden yarrow]

https://www.youtube.com/c/ChamferZone/videos anything from chamferzone is good

[daring condor]

This

[thorn topaz]

Ah that person has some excellent tutorials

[daring condor]

They're responsible for half of the CC akms out there

[thorn topaz]

oh, should also add that marmoset toolbag is breaking into 3d painting

[mortal sentinel]

maybe need some pins with most asked questions, tips for what software to use for what and something like that

[daring condor]

I'm trying to stick mostly to freeware for now

[mental onyx]

Does Marmoset have a student license like Substance?

[daring condor]

I'll be real with you, this place needs a pin with the blender discord invite

[mortal sentinel]

nice one

[shut bloom]

no it does not and for a reason. it in theory is not needed(the software). but you do get allot better results when working with it. but there is a free trial.

[mental onyx]

Alright, appreciate the answer

[sly bridge]

just note i am NOT a blender user, i can send you things i found useful in my quest to try to get more aquinted with blender