#community_units

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odd trellis
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Because if it contains strange characters (especially slashes), it will break the path where the image file is stored.

short mountain
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1-1 SOCOMD AUS [1-1], I've seen units with dashes, but it might be that if special characters aren't fully support

potent gazelle
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@short mountain Linux server?

worn current
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Heyy
Where and how can i join a unit?ΒΏ :/

potent gazelle
rose hornet
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where do i post an ad for recruitment?

deft sphinx
gilded ivy
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any idea when the units server is coming back online?

gilded ivy
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units server is down again

gilded ivy
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any idea when the units server will be back up?

potent gazelle
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negative

primal lodge
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Couldn't it be made possible to save the emblems and information of a players units on their PC in order to enable players play with their unit active even if Arma 3 Units is down?

The saved information could be synchronized with Arma 3 Units whenever the player starts the game and Arma 3 Units is online and if it's not the saved information from the last synchronisation would be used instead.

odd trellis
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That's already happening... All people in my unit still have their emblems, since it's stored on my machine.
However the server doesn't know the unit and therefore doesn't show the unit name.

Tbf... Unless you run a unit only server (by checking units of players) it doesn't really matter if someone has an emblem or unit name...

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And making it decentralized just makes it less secure, or even worse...

primal lodge
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I did not suggest to make it decentralized in the normal sense. I was just suggesting to have a file with unit emblem, name, tag etc. on players PCs which gets updated whenever a player starts Arma 3 while Arma 3 Units is up and running and which gets only used when Arma 3 Units is down.

There wouldn't be any access to unit properties or anything like that (which would indeed be unsecure) but the emblem file as well as the name, tag and other information that is openly displayed in-game anyways when Arma 3 Units is online.

Think of it as a backup system with one-way synchronisation.

odd trellis
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Player name, unit name and emblem are already stored on each client that met that player on any server, when available.

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However not on the server (afaik), which is actually handling the data (except for the image) based on data from the squad.xml

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So if you really need it to work, create a squad.xml with all members and host it on a public place, and make sure all members set the URL in their profile

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Like the good old days πŸ‘΄

deft sphinx
median moss
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So whats going on with units? Is it just me or has you Units been unable to receive data?

deft sphinx
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read upwards, it has issues for a long time now

gilded ivy
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to say issues is an understatement. is there any movement toward resolution? suggestions concerning work arounds?

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@odd trellis last time I dove down that rabbit hole it was very confusing. do you happen to know of a halfway decent specification? how/where we could potentially host, that sort of thing? thanks...

odd trellis
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I guess you're talking about squad.xml

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The wiki has a detailed page about it, and there are several posts on the forums with more details.

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For hosting; any webhost will do, although in the Arma 2 days I used a GitHub.io page, which is free

gilded ivy
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good to know, appreciate the feedback @odd trellis

plush crest
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They work fine on my phone

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Not on my pc tho

gilded ivy
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Q: so I am setting up my unit's Github.io presence, squad.xml, etc. Given the dtd dynamic xml, xsl transformation, nature of it, am I right in thinking I can customize the squad.xml allowing for more specific conventions in terms of first and surname, ranks, etc?

odd trellis
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Technically you can add everything in the XML and display it though DTD/XLS/CSS in the browser. However it won't be handled by Arma at all (except for the default elements)

gilded ivy
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Ah okay I see. So probably best not to deviate too far from that. That's unfortunate.

deft sphinx
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@gilded ivy that's the actual opposite, you can put whatever you want! just that Arma will only deal with the default fields, not whatever you added on the side

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you could add first name, last name, nickname, age, location etc

gilded ivy
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Point is, I wouldn't want to drop name in favor of first_name, surname, and so on. The only question then would be how much maintenance we would want to do.

deft sphinx
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keep the needed fields, but don't show them
that's an option too

odd trellis
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Back in the Arma 2 days I created a PHP script which would take all members from a database (we had community website/forum) and put that data in the XML. This included all the required fields (nick and id), but also custom data like rank, first and last name (which got concatenated to 'name' as well, just not shown in online version) and some other stuff we had in our community.

gilded ivy
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Thanks... there also seems to be a dearth of examples bridging the gap between xml/dtd/xsl and a web page... Perhaps I am missing something about that integration. I just want to reference squad.xml (or dtd or xsl as the case may be) from an html web page?

deft sphinx
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<a href="squad.xml">my link</a>
odd trellis
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just open the XML file in your browser, and it will load the DTD (validation) and XSL (HTML, CSS and JS), which will then show correctly

gilded ivy
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hmm @odd trellis perhaps I am missing something. would you mind having a peek at my squad.xml?

odd trellis
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sure

gilded ivy
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@odd trellis thanks, can I DM you the link?

odd trellis
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sure, I've enabled DM's for the time being πŸ˜‰

gilded ivy
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hmm so the squad is "accepted" but the unit patch is not going. do I need to do anything special with the imagery?

gilded ivy
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having difficulties for my unit insignia not being recognized, probably the squad.xml itself. Is there anything in particular I need to be aware of when setting up a github.io?

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I've currently got it hosted in basically a https://myunit.github.io/src/membership/squad.xml area. The xml/xsd/dtd is working correctly to transform to a stylized web page. But the insignia is not working in game, nor do tags show up, so something tells me I do not have it configured quite right.

gilded ivy
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am I doing something wrong, if the A3 units server is down, then it does not consider alternate or custom hosted sources?

deft sphinx
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squad.xml should work no matter what

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but I get a 404 following your link

gilded ivy
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@deft sphinx yes that's not the correct url. the url itself "works" but the in game insig does not.

deft sphinx
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the rest, such as text etc work?

gilded ivy
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I do not see any tags or anything either, yes.

deft sphinx
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dm me the link (or the file)

pallid copper
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im having trouble uploading a unit patch, it goes to the point of uploading files then i get a glicthly error message thats on the side of the screen?

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The media tab in in red and clicking on it the unit emblem is too

deft sphinx
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Read above.

gilded ivy
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BIS not real helpful in determining the A3 specs for the custom squad.xml. We are sure it has to be an insecure http site?

deft sphinx
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no, we are not

wary girder
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there's been some reports of HTTPS issues with the linux server

misty oyster
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Units is down again πŸ™‚

autumn badger
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it was up?

misty oyster
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yep 😏

deft sphinx
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that's wh

potent gazelle
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its was never fixed @misty oyster

misty oyster
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eh, it worked 2 days ago πŸ˜›

potent gazelle
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it randomly works/doesn't work on a daily basis

autumn badger
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heh I like it, adds some RNG feeling

sick oak
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Units it's Down Again

deft sphinx
rocky silo
obsidian wagon
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So, uh, fun fact: unit logos do not appear on linux servers with unit tags that include periods.

potent gazelle
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On perf/prof branch?

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because they didn't work at all, no matter the tag, before current perf/prof or dev branch

obsidian wagon
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I forgot to mention: yes on the perf/prof branch. You are right, previously they did not work at all.

peak thicket
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Wondering if this is good meta for my unit. Any suggestions are appreciated <3

The (unit name) is a special/black operations unit jointly supervised by NATO and the United Nations. The (unit) was created and codenamed "(codename)" after a series of terrorist attacks in countries under the UN that originated from multiple terror cells in Altis and Malden. Their current base of operations is FOB (name of some random politician) in Altis near Oreokastro.
cursive olive
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Sounds nice πŸ™‚

stiff jolt
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I was interested in making an Arma unit based on the unit I was in during my service, is there anyone experienced in this that could help? Thanks in advance!

deft sphinx
stiff jolt
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aha, i have one registered already, thanks! I just don't really know where to go from there @deft sphinx

autumn badger
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@burnt ravine Have a look at #communities_arma3 , thats props the channel you're looking for

burnt ravine
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thanks

uncut panther
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Not a place to ad your gruop but for discuss "Arma 3 Units" @glacial bay

stable crater
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@uncut panther Is there a place to ad my group?

uncut panther
toxic bluff
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If you were to give any advice for a new unit what would it be?

odd arch
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be cool and not get overly kick happy

balmy crater
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@toxic bluff Dont jump straight into rank. For example, so many groups have like Captains and Colonels, and then just Pvt and PFC

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no midrank supervisors, leaves a lot of dead space that is hard to fill

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Also Close air slots soon. If at all. I was in a unit that crashed because they never closed aircraft recruitment, so we lost an entire squads worth of dudes in the infantry division because they transfered to USAF and Rotary Wing, and we were forced to close because of that and poor managment, but mostly that

last owl
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Who do I need to talk to about someone in this discord joining my units discord and actively sending recruitment posts to some of my people trying to recruit them?

potent gazelle
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@last owl can you specify further? don't quite understand what you mean

deft sphinx
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someone from here tried to steal his Discord/unit members

last owl
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@potent gazelle sorry about that. Yeah a guy who is posting in #communities_arma3 channel is also joining other groups discord’s and DMing lower enlisted asking them to join his unit. Now I’d call this poaching but my original question was more directed at is this something we can remove this group from posting on this discord? Luckily my guys are smart enough to tell the guy to kick rocks but that might not be the case with everyone else.

potent gazelle
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Please send a moderator a screenshot of that guy doing that

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We certainly don't like such behaviour

last owl
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Will do, thank you.

clever gale
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Had the same thing as Rico. a member of this discord was joining other units and messaged my group to poach/steal unit members. I'll message you the details Dedmen

autumn badger
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@shrewd patrol No advertising in this chat please, use #communities_arma3 for that BlepGoo @shrewd patrol

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Also remember to remove the message here bongocat

timber herald
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any one know of any active OPTER ODST units

golden crest
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Can't promote people or access certain pages on the units page without getting constant errors. Is this something that is a wider problem?

tepid lagoon
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Units are having issues, its a known problem that BI are slow to fix.

golden crest
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Ah I see. Thanks for the info

golden kernel
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Need advice; started a unit, I think I have a good foundation dedicated server, Tfar training server. List goes on. I have ppl that join at a slow past. Are there other avenues to gain new members?
Ty DM plzοΏΌ

odd trellis
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This Discord (in #communities_arma3), Arma Forums (Squads & Fanpages) and Reddit (/r/FindAUnit/) are as far as I know the best places.
I believe there is a LFG website as well, but never seen/used it...
And of course being active on public servers, without breaking any server rules, and play by example.

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Just don't expect to find hundreds of active members within a week

autumn badger
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Also once you've got some members doing joint ops with other units can be a good way to gather some new members

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not from trying to steal the other groups players though, just from people wanting to then play in both groups

proven nest
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Anyone invested in a PMC team here? We keep it as realistic as possible and have a fun time doing it

deft sphinx
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@golden kernel wrong channel I'm afraid, try #communities_arma3 (following the template πŸ˜‰)

golden kernel
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@deft sphinx i have a few days b4 being able to post again, can I post what I posted here?

deft sphinx
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nope, sorry
here is about the Units system itself

golden kernel
deft sphinx
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if it is about the same group, yes.

golden kernel
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Ok ty NP

snow dove
deft sphinx
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unfortunately, it happens (quite frequently)

sage crystal
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Does anybody know where i can find a unit to join?

radiant finch
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me too

deft sphinx
sage crystal
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ok thank you!

fluid hedge
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any particular reason for the 300kb limit on the emblems?

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I tried to use the CTRG flag as my unit logo, but I can't due to the png being 540kb πŸ€” so just curious why the limit of 300kb

odd trellis
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Most likely because it will be downloaded to all clients, and to prevent abuse it's limited.
And probably to limit the amount of space required on units.arma3.com for hosting all those images

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Can't remember if squad.xml also had a limit on the image (which needs to be .paa so already smaller), but that could also be reason

deft sphinx
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300kb as well, most likely historical reason I think

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(iirc)

abstract beacon
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Are there any Vanilla based units?

autumn badger
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Iirc there are some units that play without any mods, have a look at #communities_arma3 @abstract beacon

deft sphinx
deft sphinx
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STOP!
This channel is not for advertising your group nor to find one.

Are you looking to play with people?
pick one channel:
#looking_for_game to tell others you want to play
#looking_for_unit to tell others you are looking for a group
#communities_arma3 to browse through advertised groups, or advertise your own

flint briar
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Is there like an application process or do you get on the community radar posts?

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I've been reading through them. Seem neat.

ashen token
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Be active community member and get asked for an interview I suppose.

astral spear
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@deft sphinx thank you!

blazing ginkgo
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is there a reason behind the units.arma3.com pages taking a long time to load if not just give ERROR_ besides the one lucky time it loads?

potent gazelle
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Yes

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the server is having problems

blazing ginkgo
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hm ok, I must always check it at unlucky times cause a few weeks ago when I was trying to access it aswell it wasnt loading

autumn badger
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Ye its down every now and then

lethal escarp
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will the announcements feature ever be implemented? iey

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on the units webpage

autumn badger
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I think your best bet would be to contact support @formal urchin

deft sphinx
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STOP!
This channel is not for advertising your group nor to find one.

Are you looking to play with people?
pick one channel:
#looking_for_game to tell others you want to play
#looking_for_unit to tell others you are looking for a group
#communities_arma3 to browse through advertised groups, or advertise your own

craggy river
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why is there a limit to the number of mods that can be attached to a unit page?

deft sphinx
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technical limitations I presume

craggy river
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ahh, thanks

rare totem
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Kinda wish there were more RAF units

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Not the royal air force but Russian armed forces

autumn badger
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Have a look at the channel description @versed hearth

autumn badger
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are you on discord desktop?

versed hearth
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Mobile

autumn badger
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ah

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then swipe inwards from the right iirc

versed hearth
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Discussion about unit service ... I see

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So would this be where someone would ask questions to a unit leader or something like that?

autumn badger
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Its to talk about the website itself

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website/surrounding service

orchid smelt
fluid hedge
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Is the website down? I can't seem to get on my unit page

deft sphinx
fluid hedge
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I can get to the "frontpage" @ https://units.arma3.com/ but when I try to go to my unit page or register new unit I get "We encountered an error. If the problem persists, please contact us as via email at support@bistudio.com."

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persistent across Chrome, Opera GX & Firefox

deft sphinx
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therefore website issue

fluid hedge
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any word on when it should we working again?

deft sphinx
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nope - plus, it's the weekend

autumn badger
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Just assume that the units website is going to be down on the weekends by default

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its sorta its thing

latent sparrow
lost turret
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ok?

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used it as a template my guy

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you mad?

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@latent sparrow you used the same one so lul

latent sparrow
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Read mine, its totally different wording

pallid copper
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I have a problem withy the units: I can't create mine

tidal night
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I'm getting a security warning when I try to logout. Staying loged in vs some risky page that must load after i log out. So which poses the highest risk?

autumn badger
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Huh ConfusedDog ?

tidal night
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Its working now.

edgy ginkgo
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Is anyone having problems accessing the "Units" system on the Bohemia website (arma3.com) today?
I'm finding it particularly sluggish
I'm using Firefox

deft sphinx
scenic garden
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Hello there.
My unit page has been suspended and i cannot appeal because the page wont send the appeal.

deft sphinx
forest gull
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My unit got suspended and I am trying to submit it for approval but it doesn't appear to be going through.

autumn badger
dusk jolt
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Out of curiosity, why does the arma unit servers seem to go down frequently?

dusk mural
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cuz bad maintenance

dusk jolt
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Makes sense

forest gull
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Do we have any idea when the units page will be fixed? I emailed support like a week ago and nothing has changed.

potent gazelle
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no info

autumn badger
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units being down on the weekend is the norm

forest gull
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I haven't been able to submit anything since I was asking about it

autumn badger
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oh

hollow jay
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How do you create a unit and do you have to have a Bohemian Account?

deft sphinx
hollow jay
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ok thanks

signal pawn
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Hello there - my group tried to make a few seperate units to organise ourselves into by veterancy, and we had them suspended right after making because they looked too similar to each other. We tried to fix it but we haven't heard anything back, is there any way we can get an ETA or some help on getting that ready?

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We're not spambots or anything of the sort

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We just wanted to have more than one unit tag within our group.

potent gazelle
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DM'ing Nillers should work best

signal pawn
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Thanks will do!

deft sphinx
torn berry
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whats a unit Biography

deft sphinx
desert quiver
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How does the "Whitelist" system work?

plucky steeple
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anyone any idea why the units page has been giving Error_ for the last few days?

autumn badger
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try again tomorrow heh

dire bridge
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how do i join bro-nation?

fluid hedge
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Is the website having issues?, been unable to log-in with steam to the www.units.arma3.com sight all weekend and today (last attempt 5 minutes ago at time of posting)

potent gazelle
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Yes it had some last week.
Is only units broken or also the login on for example BI forums?

fluid hedge
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only on arma3.com just logged in to forums no problem

potent gazelle
fluid hedge
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tried to login on google chrome, firefox and opera GX

potent gazelle
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Thanks, I'll forward

autumn badger
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Huh, its still down?

primal lodge
distant rune
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units seem to be down

fiery salmon
deft sphinx
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due to players connecting en masse*

prisma monolith
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Question about the unit emblems:
I noticed that the images - especially with curved emblems, will have little white fragments, "blitzers" when i upload my files as .png
any suggestions on how to avoid those? - https://i.imgur.com/C0BIFM0.png

unborn dirge
prisma monolith
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i use photoshop and the outer circle is basically a contour of a form-layer

fiery salmon
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you can always make a circle and mask/cut the border so it will make your symbol a pixel or 2 smaller, but without the white noise

uncut panther
pearl monolith
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anyone from switzerland'

deft sphinx
gleaming wrenBOT
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Are you looking to play with people?
pick one channel:
#looking_for_game to tell others you want to play
#looking_for_unit to tell others you are looking for a group
#communities_arma3 to browse through advertised groups

Note: Please follow the templates in those channels (if applicable), and don't use them for discussions.

pearl monolith
deft sphinx
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@terse oracle wrong channel

south lava
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seeing units is working as well as it normally does, whats the logo file type and size limit please

brittle forum
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I'm wondering why the units service is constantly offline

fiery salmon
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Because it's overloaded as always during Christmas.

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Once the new year begins it will be working as it should.

pallid copper
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Hello Arma team: How long till Arma Units is back up?

fiery salmon
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With having all these years in mind - probably soon

rose ether
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Previous unit owner left and we are trying to access the unit's page on units.arma3.com. to keep it up to date etc. Is there anyone that can help us?

potent gazelle
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Message Nillers

pallid copper
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What is the purpose of this channel ?

pallid copper
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Yes but what is there to discus about it?

deft sphinx
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how to use it, if it is unavailable, etc

pallid copper
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I see

deft sphinx
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but yes, if you mean "one can mistake it for #communities_arma3", I would say "yes, unfortunately"

winged trench
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Has units been down for awhile?

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Been noticing errors a lot. Unable to connect. Same with a lot of guys I run with.

deft sphinx
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I don't know, but it is frequently

fringe breach
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Has there been ANY feedback on when the units page is going to be working?

weak jackal
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@fringe breach Well I am afraid that won't be anytime soon, issues have been going on for a long time now, and yes to long, I really can't say if it ever will work properly. Maybe @gaunt flume can kick it up the chain and ask around.

fringe breach
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Even if the back end still worked so squadParams returned something would be enough for me

weak jackal
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You are not the only one, it comes by almost daily on the discord to get it working.

fringe breach
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It always promised so much, it could have been an amazing tool

weak jackal
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Well I totally agree, it had a very promising future and got a lot of attention during/after the End Game Tournament but also exploded with users/units the last few years(I had the honour to post 1 of the first units on that page). But like I said maybe Nillers can give some insight about the units page.

gaunt flume
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For the record, we are aware of the issues with the Units page and it is being investigated. πŸ˜„

uncut panther
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Phew, I suspected that they didn't do anything about it yet meowsweats

gaunt flume
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Actually. I should correct myself. It has already been brought back up and should be running again.

weak jackal
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πŸ‘ thanks Nillers

fringe breach
winged trench
gaunt flume
flint walrus
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when will we get the fully released Unit service?
it says still in Beta for quite some YEARS.

fiery salmon
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It still doesn't work properly so beta state is understandable

primal lodge
gaunt flume
gaunt flume
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I’m still pushing to have this up and running as soon as possible. It hasn’t been forgotten.

potent gazelle
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player addMagazine ["HandGrenade_Stone", 50];

deft sphinx
potent gazelle
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They do πŸ‘€

    hit=0.5;
    indirectHit=0.2;
    indirectHitRange=1;
    dangerRadiusHit=6;
    suppressionRadiusHit=-1;

but not much

deft sphinx
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I tried in A2 last time iirc, I threw like 10 headshot stones and the guy was still standing πŸ˜„

clever sigil
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Χ™Χ©Χ¨ΧΧœΧ™Χ?

deft sphinx
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if you are looking for people, see below

gleaming wrenBOT
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Are you looking to play with people?
pick one channel:
#looking_for_game to tell others you want to play
#looking_for_unit to tell others you are looking for a group
#communities_arma3 to browse through advertised groups

Note: Please follow the templates in those channels (if applicable), and don't use them for discussions.

primal lodge
uncut panther
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He's sure. He's just joking

deft sphinx
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I could have sworn he was Dedmen

primal lodge
deft sphinx
runic basalt
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πŸ‘€

runic basalt
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I'm a little confused, but I'm trying to register an arma unit (predominantly for my friends and i) and its saying the name is taken, but there is no units using our name that is coming up on the unit browser. Any idea why?

deft sphinx
runic basalt
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RAF - Royal Armed Forces, there is similar names but the exact name isnt taken, which strikes me as odd

runic basalt
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Didn't have any issues with the unit url

deft sphinx
runic basalt
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hmm

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weird

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We couldn't get it working so we went with near as we could πŸ€·β€β™‚οΈ

deft sphinx
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ah well - problem solved in a way I guess πŸ˜ƒ

weak jackal
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@safe imp wrong channel if you are looking for a unit, you need to be in #looking_for_unit πŸ˜‰

primal lodge
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Looks like Units is down again...

potent gazelle
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Thats indeed correct

solemn flax
deft sphinx
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This channel is about the Arma 3 Units website and service.

solemn flax
pallid copper
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man...i wish the arma 3 units worked i wanna execute civs with troll face god damn

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so like

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is there to get around

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arma 3 units not working

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a magical way to make it work

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?

deft sphinx
pallid copper
deft sphinx
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hold your breath for it

latent sparrow
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Damn @deft sphinx, I thought you were against murder

deft sphinx
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@hazy wolf see instead #looking_for_unit πŸ™‚ this channel is about the Arma 3 Units web service πŸ™‚

hazy wolf
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k srry

deft sphinx
hazy wolf
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ye, definently! this community is so nice by providing me with a ton of recruitments!

deft sphinx
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this channel is about the Arma 3 Units web service thank you πŸ™‚

dim birch
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crashed again?

primal lodge
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Would it be possible to download and save all necessary information about the player's unit(s) on the player's computer (||the unit emblems for example are already downloaded and saved on the player's machine||) so that, if Arma 3 units is down you could fall back on that previously saved data which would be synchronised each time units is available?

potent gazelle
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The data is stored on server, not on player

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But yes, technically thats easy

primal lodge
native sierra
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Units do be down once more

noble robin
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@potent gazelle can i ask how the fuck do i make a PROPER MODS LIST FOR THE DAMN SHIT so it can stop being deleted by yall bot it so anooying haveing to wait 7 days to repost my unit]

uncut panther
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  1. you need to follow the template that pinned there
  2. you just can edit your post but don't delete
  3. language
  4. don't ping someone specifically for such a question
weak jackal
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@noble robin you did not have any issue posting last January while following the template 🀷

noble robin
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also can i get that back by chance

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@weak jackal

weak jackal
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Follow the template and rules and the bot will not alert 🀷 Bot also get triggered if you just mention a few mods and say "rest in discord" (as he can not read all mods but does read "discord/server").

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And I have send you the text @noble robin

potent gazelle
granite epoch
potent gazelle
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I don't think that channel allows image uploads

granite epoch
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I saw the plus symbol to the left of the text bar thought that meant embedds were on

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apparently not mb lol

misty oyster
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@pallid copper @hazy crescent Wrong channel, this channel is for http://units.arma3.com service, you are looking for #communities_arma3 please move your posts to that channel.

hazy crescent
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Sorry

misty oyster
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thank you πŸ™‚

misty oyster
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@pallid copper this channel of not for advertising your unit, please move your message to the appropriate channel, and follow the templates in the pinned messages of those channels

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there is a template pinned in there, please use that to structure your message, and you are allowed to advertise only once every 14 days.

deft sphinx
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@pallid copper cleaned that for you.

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@ruby mango wrong channel.

ruby mango
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Right channel

deft sphinx
deft sphinx
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@runic basalt this channel is not for advertising

gleaming wrenBOT
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Are you looking to play with people?
pick one channel:
#looking_for_game to tell others you want to play
#looking_for_unit to tell others you are looking for a group
#communities_arma3 to browse through advertised groups

Note: Please follow the templates in those channels (if applicable), and don't use them for discussions.

deft sphinx
# runic basalt .

See the channel's topic
It's to talk about the service, not its content

runic basalt
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I doesn’t seem to ever get used for its purpose πŸ˜…

deft sphinx
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everybody gave up on it :p

primal lodge
flint walrus
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good ol' arma unit down
(it's back online btw)