#reaction_forces

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fossil axle
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https://store.steampowered.com/app/2647760/Arma_3_Creator_DLC_Reaction_Forces/
https://arma3.com/news/arma-3-creator-dlc-reaction-forces-is-coming-soon
https://discord.gg/3GVUagyjkx

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Arma 3 Creator DLC: Reaction Forces

More From Rotators Collectivehttps://store.steampowered.com/app/1681170/Arma_3_Creator_DLC_Western_Sahara/Fight fires from above in the Cougar medium utility helicopter or swerve from the beaten track in the MOOSE pickup truck to take on tier-1 operations with new weapons and equipment, from pistols and rifles to remote-controlled mortars and mi...

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Arma 3 Creator DLC: Reaction Forces offers new weapons, vehicles, gear, and more to rapidly react to a multitude of situations in new single and multiplayer scenarios, and to enhance your overall experience in the Arma 3 sandbox.

cyan copper
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tss

haughty umbra
blissful trellis
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No you're slow

agile pawn
soft ginkgo
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🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥

old crystal
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mapless cdlc 💀

cyan copper
hexed narwhal
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lez gooo

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im buying it as soon as it releases on steam

winter remnant
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The Reaction Force that is Quick

fierce fern
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Having mini-cdlcs to augment the existing 2035 content is an interesting idea, pretty nice if its priced correctly I think

haughty umbra
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Indeed, though I still wish that both this and WS would be integrated as a regular DLC as they both fit very well.

fierce fern
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True that'd be the best but sadly unlikely

old crystal
winter remnant
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7.99$

olive widget
old crystal
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same could be said for SOG then

fierce gazelle
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can be said for every cdlc

old crystal
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except iron curtain lol

fierce gazelle
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just look at other games like squad -- they sell 3 weapon skins for 5 bucks. some gesture animations for more.

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or hell, diablo 4 which sells $30 "change my portal color"

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if we'd adjust according to such prices, we would be somewhere in $35 area at the very least, imo.

winter remnant
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mlex, if WS has higher price initially does stuff in RF be added to it as update?

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or it's already different project altogether

fierce gazelle
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well. it started out as a new WS update, but it was quickly quite clear that financially it would not work out great.

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making new vehicles / aircraft / anything similar to that is a lot of work and costs a lot. so the decision to branch off was the only way to get this out to the people.

fierce fern
fierce fern
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Interesting to hear it said so 'openly'

willow flint
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I've been training water bombing these past days and meanwhile getting reasonably good at it. Good fun with the new copter 🚒

fierce gazelle
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i find it quite addictive

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hard at first, but once you get the hang of it..

rain spruce
winter remnant
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so what's gonna be for WS? is it done or there is still more updates for it considering the team now working on 2 CLDC.

rain spruce
boreal jackal
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idap truck model looking dangerously identical to a Dodge Ram 1500 TRX lol

rain spruce
winter remnant
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it said that SOG cost ~1 Mil usd

rain spruce
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And that it would take years to break even... while a permanent price drop would make that even worse

fierce gazelle
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no ETA for release date

old crystal
ivory spruce
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hello

old crystal
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IC map looks decent but extremely bad rep from the factions side

fierce gazelle
winter remnant
ivory spruce
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wait no new factions in RF?

old crystal
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(retex LDF fatigue)

winter remnant
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imagine A3_Melle making an appearance as a firefighter ingame

fierce fern
fierce fern
old crystal
ivory spruce
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hmm

grizzled flume
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Looks great but this and western sahara seriously should be able to be loaded with base game 😢

winter remnant
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maybe in the future

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far future

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2035 perhaps

grizzled flume
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i dont think so, seems like BI is averse to that out for the 2035 CDLCs. Perhaps with decent reasoning but unfortunate none the less

nova flower
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Except those CDLC's aren't made, maintained or supported by BI. So it doesn't make sense to include them in the base game.

And since it took a lot of time and effort to get these CLDC's build and released it's more than fair to pay separately for them.

grizzled flume
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No one said anything about changing anything around payment. Just the way in which they load.

Imo if there are 2035 themed they should be loaded as basegame dlc

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I totally understand why they are not loaded that way

brittle walrus
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but they won't, so why even wish for that?

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I love these guys

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grizzled flume
nova flower
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It's indeed a great method of getting kicked out 😜

grizzled flume
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kicked out for what exactly?

nova flower
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But back on topic, I'm intrigued in what the CDLC will offer.
From just the short description it looks pretty barebone, and only the scenarios are an interesting addition to the game.

Will see when it comes out

agile pawn
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Just that I don't need to relaunch my game to have them included

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Same as any other DLC in other words

grizzled flume
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👆 Thats all I was saying 🙂

agile pawn
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DLCs that fit within the same theme and arguably do not change the basic experience/setting like WS and RF should be considered towards being held at the same level

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(Though really I would love that Arma 3 like Reforger did not need a restart to apply mods/dlcs)

pulsar fable
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New toys for the boys lets gooooooo

nova flower
hidden spade
glass grove
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Ok, who's the absolute chad that thought about adding a Pickup with Grad launcher tubes?

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I couldn't be happier. Plus, the helicopter looks great. Looking forward to buying the CDLC

winter remnant
nova flower
winter remnant
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maybe in another lifetime

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sad the official Czech stuff isnt implemented aswell

bold wren
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The ADR was a official mod made by BI, designed to encourage modders to make mods for A3

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Very different from CDLCs

lunar prairie
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Just a shame that I don't see a water cannon on the fire truck... Would have been useful in dealing with those pesky protesters on Altis. Fine though, we'll just have to continue shooting them instead 😉

wispy bluff
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Can whoever is in charge at Bohemia pls make these rotator collective cdlcs into full DLCs pls

tight hill
civic lantern
tight hill
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can the reaction forces and western sahara dlc be run together without issues?

fierce fern
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like 99% chance without having tried it yet

fierce gazelle
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yes, they even compliment each other with new stuff

tight hill
dull hemlock
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What a nice addition to my day

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I really like WS, so I'm stoked for this

orchid pelican
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Do we know if Rotator Collective's compatibility mod for non-CLDC owners will be server-side or client-side?

olive widget
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Same as always, for all the other CDLCs

orchid pelican
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I don't own any other CLDCs, afraid I don't know what the same is. 4head

olive widget
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Both server and client 🫂

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Every mod that adds model assets needs to be on both

keen moth
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Can we get a peek at the new NVGs :p

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Maybe I'm blind but I didn't see them in any images or vids

lucid jungle
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This looks absolutely awesome

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Is there going to be a terrain with it as well? Seems like there's a little river in the image with the 2 trucks and I don't remember that from any previous BI maps

bold wren
bold wren
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Also no terrain, or it'd be included in the Steam description

lucid jungle
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Ah...

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still exciting

quick zealot
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Can't we have a CDLC that behaves like a DLC in the fact that it is always installed? Makes little sense to have these smallish CDLCs set during the vanilla time period as separate/alternative downloads. I know that maybe it has to do with BI not wanting to maintain the integrated CDLC in case the authors disappear from the face of the earth or something but still would be great some flexibility in that regard due to how many things we have the opt in/subscribe already and it is kinda becoming unwieldy, specially for new players, since playing Arma and getting the most of it is becoming more and more like a puzzle, ever more complex and with the more pieces the more that can go wrong in terms of modding compatibility, hard drive size etc etc

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Another benefit is that integrated content is more appealing for modders to work on them since their reach potential is worth it compared to the limited scope that an external CDLC provides. And modders creating content for a CDLC = More appealing = More sales

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Just think (💰) about it BI 😉, a simple decision could lead to much less frustration from players and more sales... that should outweigh any downside you can come up with...

blissful trellis
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Please make CDLCs DLCs debate is simply annoying and make no valuable topic at this point

quick zealot
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Perhaps it requires modifying a line on the contract, perhaps it is just an internal whim. Or perhaps there is a truly important reason behind it but since it was never explained... Maybe some clarity on the matter would suffice

bold wren
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As someone who works in the business world, I feel compelled to remind everyone that there is much more involved in these things than just "oh but it's so much better for players, and it's all the same setting, so it all fits together and should be together"

civic lantern
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Yep, some people just can't get it and keep asking same stuff.

bold wren
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I mean yeah... gamers usually just want their games to be a certain way, and I'm sure game developers would like their games to be a certain way and sometimes can't see it happen also. But folks don't think about how the entities behind these games are businesses, with share holders, bound by contracts, licenses, copy-rights, partners, associates, clients, and all sorts of legal, bureaucratic and straight up bullsh*t all around.

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I mean, I work for a company that got bought out. Our teams are staying, our project stays the same, our clients are the same, our client's work tools are the same, but for some stupid reason they have to replace my work machine, keyboard and mouse for exactly the same models, just because these are the ones that are "approved" by the new parent company. Does it make sense? Maybe, to someone somewhere in a nice office probably. Do I care? Nah... it is what it is. And that's the same attitude we all need to have about the CDLC program and how it works...

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The end

quick zealot
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Indeed, it is either that some of us don't get it or that someone doesn't know how to defend/explain its position so the buyers don't get it

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The wallet is ultimately the one with the reason, and the wallet sometimes demands explanation before leashing out its $$$

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"It is what it is" or "it has always been like that" or "people don't get it" are not defendable answers, while "it needs to be like that because we don't want the responsability for external people's works" is a much more understandable answer for example

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Whatever it is, clarity keeps the friendships, only the sith deal in ambiguities

neat ocean
# blissful trellis *Please make CDLCs DLCs* debate is simply annoying and make no valuable topic at...

it just doesn't make sense but I'm not here to argue about it because it's been repeated ad nauseum, I simply don't like the current CDLC concept for any Futura DLCs because the assets fit and it'd earn both Bohemia and the devs a pretty penny because people will spend it for access on public servers, but I can imagine that licensing would not be as easy as it seems to me (the casual observer)

on a positive note though, I absolutely love the quality presented here. all Futura DLCs keep a special place in my heart and this one seems cool. lol I'm wondering if there'll be dynamic fires with the firefighter equipment

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missed opportunity to deliver a firetruck

quick zealot
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It is important for some to understand that if we are ball breakers is because we want the content to be used and to be successful via lots of sales and not just for the sake of it

quick zealot
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Larian studios says hi from the gamers world... hi and 🤑 🤑 🤑 🤑 🤑 🤑

bold wren
# quick zealot "It is what it is" or "it has always been like that" or "people don't get it" ar...

Simple answer is the CDLC program was setup in a certain way, and can't just be changed willy nilly after 5 CDLCs have been released. That would create all sorts of issues. The time to make it different was before the program started, and unfortunately it wasn't. Why? I'm sure there's plenty of technical reasons, such as keeping the installation size of the base game down, and not end up like COD with a 300 GB game for content that most players will not use because it's locked behind a paywall, and other reasons.

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I'm sure there were business reasons also.

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Point being that spamming the channels about it every time a new CDLC is released is just pointless at this point

quick zealot
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But, as someone who also comes from the business world and works in the stock exchange making lots of companies public I can tell you that ANYTHING can be changed in the name of profit and more sales and more players in this case... contracts, policies you name it

bold wren
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It's not really speculation when it's the most logical reason, and it's the main reason that I've seen given on multiple occasions

quick zealot
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Nothing is set on stone

quick zealot
bold wren
bold wren
quick zealot
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But... in Reforgers particular case... I am pretty sure Arma 3 still makes more money... most likely considering it hasn't been able to break the 900 concurrent players

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Look, if they do not have the flexibility that the market requires to maximize sales and instead opt to take the known and travelled path then it is their decision. It is mostly sad for the developers who will never see their content being used as much as it could

empty solstice
maiden prairie
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☝️

agile pawn
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I'm guessing as this comes from RC with Western Sahara as previous work there won't be any extra content added to the CDLC beyond what is promised on the store page? No content updates or anything post release, what we see is what we get?

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Just to manage expectations

haughty umbra
raven kite
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Looks amazing, so wish it was part of the base game as normal DLCs

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Same with WS

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Both fit A3 setting, could be in the base game ,without maps and missions, with DLC nagging when you use that content

undone wren
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fell in love with 2035 setting lwkey

blissful trellis
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Even though I've involved on this CDLC, I had to say I wish

undone wren
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is there a release date for the dlc yet?

blissful trellis
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Not yet

undone wren
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alr ty

quick zealot
noble jetty
# raven kite Looks amazing, so wish it was part of the base game as normal DLCs

yeah it's very very looking great, fits the 2035 theme wish they made it part of main game just like Contact dlc. Most of the players I play like CDLC's but sadly don't buy it since the server owners does not like the idea of forcing people buy an cdlc or download a compat file. If it worked like every other dlc (apex,contact etc) it would be great for servers who use only vanilla+dlc contents..

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hear us Dwarden, devs SmugPepe

winged spade
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Arma 3 players schizophrenic

fierce gazelle
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i thought servers are using a boatload of mods anyways. what difference makes it then to just slap the compatibility data on as well

ivory spruce
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thermobaric bomb firefighting when?

winter remnant
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fire tornado would be fun

ivory spruce
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just need to pray its vanilla expansion like contact

neon bramble
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it funny watch some people lose there shit over the helmet covers

fierce gazelle
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it's really weird, since half the base game is stuff from israel and nobody cared

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also we have lots of russian stuff and nobody cares about it either

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this is some real weird selective bias

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if we would remove everything "controversial" from the game, there would be nothing left to play with

neon bramble
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i not a fan of them anyway as they look like over sized camo pillow cases on helmets 😄

blissful trellis
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Shape Breaker boo while they're bombing civilians

grizzled rampart
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There will always be some people that will complain. You choose whether to listen or not.

spark idol
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The fire better shoot back.

winged spade
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Which like, skill issue tbh

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Also something more people should know is that COMPAT DATA IS THE DLC

bold wren
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Mega skill issue

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I understand for like, large CDLCs

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But WS and probably this won't be much larger than say the Aegis mod

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3gb-4gb for a compat data isn't that big of a deal nowadays

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If you don't have at least 200GB SSD just for Arma you're not playing it right anyway right 😄

neon bramble
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imo it more that they don't whant to pay for it

bold wren
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They don't have to

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compat data

winged spade
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Yuh, works like a normal dlc then and you can also BUY IT while playing with compat and instantly get access

bold wren
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People really be complaining "oh this should be base game, I don't want to download compat data for premium stuff I can't use" but like.. if it was part of the base game, you'd still have to hecking download it, and you still couldn't use it! The only difference is you wouldn't have to download it separately! But the files are still there

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It's still taking space on your precious hard drive

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It'll also take you longer to download every time there's a stable branch update

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Like... uh

winged spade
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Most people don't own Contact and nobody complains about it taking up space

bold wren
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The only legitimate concern I can understand is not being able to use all the content together from different CDLCs in official servers, but eh... it is what it is

winged spade
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Thing is, with WS official zeus servers, if you change the map, YOU CAN JOIN WITH THE DAMN COMPAT IF YOU DON'T OWN IT

bold wren
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Although I did see a chap using a GM G36 in a WS official server back in the day... well, I didn't have GM loaded so I only saw a naked man shooting an invisible gun, but he was using it 😄

winged spade
bold wren
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Yeah they did

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Anyway... this CDLC better have lots of servers, because that heist game mode thing sounds like fun and I wanna play it with randos 😄

winged spade
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Hope they add a thing saying "you need to buy dlc or install compatibility data to join this server"

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Because you get no feedback when trying to join cdlc servers if the map or something isn't part of cdlc

olive widget
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You get it in the Arma Launcher, but not in game

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I think in game miiight say you need DLC, but ingame doesn't know about compat data

blissful trellis
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(C) DLC and Compatible Mod is somewhat bad to handle/manage IMO. Since they are 100% identical... it's kinda pointless

fierce gazelle
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yeah, i kinda agree. would have been better if enabling it in the launcher would automatically give you the compat data

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would make it a lot easier to handle for lots of people too. the whole workaround over the workshop is not that obvious for everyone

olive widget
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It would be fine if everyone could tick the DLC checkbox in steam and have it download.
But, we don't want new players to download like what... 80gb? of CDLC, which they cannot use.

I don't know if steam offers the option to have the DLC by default un-checked, and having to manually enable it.
I think steam just auto enables all

blissful trellis
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I agree optional install is better. But, hey, at least Launcher should detect required CDLC to instsll

fierce gazelle
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yes, optional installation for sure. just saying that if we could somehow skip or automate that workshop-step, it would improve the situation a lot, imo

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i mean, currently if you do not own the dlc and want to activate it, there is a message that tells you that you dont own it. what if additionally to that message, it will show a link to the compatibility data? or a checkbox which asks if you want to subscribe and install it. then you dont have to visit the workshop at all and can just do that via the launcher

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pretty sure lots of people dont even know about the compatibility data. sure it's mentioned on the store page, but let's be honest, who reads all that 😄

solar spear
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Thanks

olive widget
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¯_(ツ)_/¯

solar spear
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🙂

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With the success of the CDLC products, do you think there will be CDLC's in thr future in Arma 4?

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🎙️

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...lol

old girder
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I hope tbh

fierce gazelle
civic lantern
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I think you would need to split data and "license" as separate things tho.

normal radish
blissful trellis
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But not DLCs

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Yeah "is it technically possible?" Guess yes. But Launcher doesn't handle it natively

fierce gazelle
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not like BI doesn't have access to the launcher code :p

maiden prairie
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Nobody touches the launcher code. 💀

old crystal
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who ever posted the steam news needs to be promoted (chad)

In addition, on the day of the full release of the CDLC, Heavy Ordnance Works will publish a compatibility data pack for non-owners to the Arma 3 Steam Workshop. Subscribing to this Workshop item will allow those who do not own Spearhead 1944 to still play on multiplayer servers that use the assets from the CDLC. It will also allow people to view the new Normandy terrain in Eden Editor in camera mode and inspect the assets in the Arsenal in-game before purchasing. However, playing on the CDLC's premium Normandy terrain and access to the campaign and mission scenarios will remain exclusive to the owners of the Spearhead 1944 CDLC. Restrictions on in-game use of CDLC assets by non-owners also apply. More information can be found on the Community Wiki.

tough ivy
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There is little chance that the guy who wrote it is also the guy that allowed that

neon bramble
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The Cougar is based on the 330 Puma by the look of it correct?

winter remnant
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but seems like they forgot

ionic knot
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Is that a Miznefet I see?

ionic knot
haughty umbra
blissful trellis
fossil axle
neon bramble
ionic knot
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Ahh

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Fair enough

neon bramble
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but it pass the popcon for me as i find so trivial but hey that the internet for you🤣

ionic knot
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btw I noticed the Cougar’s tail rotor has 4 blades as compared to 5 on real aircraft lol

bold wren
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From a quick google search, it looks like some variants have 4 blades

ionic knot
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Ohh

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4 blades each for both main and tail rotors?

bold wren
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Looks like

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Tbf this helicopter has a bazillion different variants

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Not sure exactly which one they drew from, if not from multiple

ionic knot
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Ohh haha

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Yeah

fierce gazelle
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we took artistic liberties

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the super puma is the m4 rifle of helicopters when it comes to customizations

lusty scarab
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Excited for the CDLC, looks to have some fun scenarios and I can finally do a fire fighter scenario

olive widget
quick zealot
# fierce gazelle yes, optional installation for sure. just saying that if we could somehow skip o...

This is the best middle ground idea I've heard so far, so it gets my vote. Whatever makes it simpler for players the better. The workshop is already too convoluted so allowing non owners to download the compatibility data if they checked the CDLC tick on the launcher's CDLCs tab is the second best if it truly needs to remain as a separate download. 👇 Here are very minimalistic changes to the Launcher and the popup message when you click the checkbox of non-owned dlcs that would allow for that suggestion to come to life

quick zealot
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What is important is that if players with COMPAT DATA loaded eventually purchase the CDLC the launcher should seamlessly (without player intervention) change the COMPAT VERSION to the FULL VERSION so that owners don't find themselves with locked assets

normal radish
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AFAIK it's the same data anyway, only the key status changes

quick zealot
normal radish
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I think there is probably a lot misunderstanding, including ppl who complain about "forced downloads" by updates for CDLC they "don't even own". They might have downloaded the compat data once and forgotten about it 🙂

quick zealot
normal radish
round ether
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Is there a release date yet?

winter remnant
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nope

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but we are hoping Soon™️

brittle walrus
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hopefully in next two-three weeks like it was with previous CDLCs (CSLA being an exception)

errant vault
fossil axle
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Can you give a size estimate for the DLC?
I'd have to ask.

it's not added to the base game
It wouldn't be possible unfortunately. Several reasons it wouldn't be added to base game.

errant vault
# fossil axle > Can you give a size estimate for the DLC? I'd have to ask. > it's not added ...

If you could let me know post it below the mod links? or have the steam page updated on the size that'd be appreciated, I'm sure that a lot of other people are curious.

I'm aware that prior circumstances have cucked future and current CDLCs, I do wish more consideration was at least given to making it accessible outside of subscribing to the workshop file.

Thank you for your time.

lunar thunder
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The download size for RF is around 4GB

errant vault
dawn meteor
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Another reason why it should be normal dlc...

lunar prairie
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I think it has been made quite clear that if it was a normal DLC then we would not be getting it 😉

errant vault
quick zealot
lunar prairie
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Oh, I agree. That said, definitely will be getting it nevertheless 🙂

quick zealot
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Lets see how many votes each gets, I would easily pay twice the current price for WS so it is integrated

brittle walrus
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then you can complain in #creator_dlc_discussion if you're not happy with the CDLC policy, but posting the same thing over and over with no real statement, message or anything specifically in this channel is just brainrot. Behavior like the Reforger folks who keep posting "PS5!!!" under everything Bohemia Interactive shares on social media.

quick zealot
brittle walrus
civic lantern
quick zealot
errant vault
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It's all relative to the DLC.

brittle walrus
errant vault
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lol

brittle walrus
# errant vault It's all relative to the DLC.

no it's not, you are complaining about CDLC system that was estabilished and made public at least 4 years ago and you want it in the base game. Since RF won't be base game as it's already released as CDLC, developed and finished by a 3rd party studio and all agreements were acknowledged to treat this (and rpevious stuff) as CDLC, you can post in #creator_dlc_discussion or write an email to BI with your complain about making any future 2035-ish content included in the base game. All these "I wish"es and "This should"es are not relevant to the DLC, it's whining and wishful thinking. All these polls about CDLC system and suggestions about CDLC system can be easily posted in the only relevant channel here instead of... whatever this is

quick zealot
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Funny, if only one guy on the sales/marketing team could see this debate would say "what do any of the coders/devs have to do with the sales policies or how we commercialize our products" and "why on earth aren't we making the most to give our players what they want"... But I guess no sales person lingers around these parts

brittle walrus
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sales persons usually read emails or Xitter

quick zealot
brittle walrus
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well seeing how Incubator-made games flourish I'd say they optimized them really well, just don't care about dead-end titles

errant vault
brittle walrus
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my emails reach them just fine shrug

civic lantern
brittle walrus
errant vault
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👍

quick zealot
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We are all wasting time here, time to move on

brittle walrus
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It's the obligation to the community, to point out the relevant channel before you get warned and start malding about it.

bold wren
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Anyway

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For anyone craving to see more of this CDLC like me

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There are 2 more pics in Rotators website

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That afaik aren't shown on Steam or Arma website

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So that's cool

random hazel
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Whats the website

bold wren
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I thought it was linked here

random hazel
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Cool

brittle walrus
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I'm really keen to checking out that Air Control campaign thing, Extraction delivered well in WS

bold wren
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Lexx described it as, kinda like Extraction

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But a lot bigger

brittle walrus
cursive pumice
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You know the argument of, CDLC should be integrated into the base game, was beaten to death literally 48 hours after the CDLC program was announced back in 2018.

vapid ember
round ether
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Is it just new suppressor models for the new weapons, or new suppressors across the board?

tight hill
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wish there would be a class list, then i could setup a wasteland server on launch 😐

worn timber
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I wasn't sure if arma was planning to place more dlcs, whats this one about

lime grove
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The store page is linked in the pins. Thoroughly described there.

jade halo
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I guess it's probably safe to assume the new Velese rifle will be chambering 12.7x55 like the its irl equivalent?

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mag sure looks thick enough + this alleged "high stopping power" lol

gaunt tiger
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when release ree

bold wren
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Judging by previous CDLC releases, including Western Sahara by Rotators, probably last week of March / first week of April

versed roost
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That's a long wait 😔

mortal fulcrum
bold wren
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No, I agree

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I've lost all will to play Arma

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Until RF releases

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I have condemned myself to play COD Warzone in the meantime

winter remnant
ivory spruce
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hello everyone

formal shuttle
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honestly A3 2035 is kinda fire nowadays.

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especially with Aegis + WS & RF

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good lord 1254trollskull

ivory spruce
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alr

high wharf
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When will this CDLC Release!

hidden fractal
undone wren
jade halo
bold wren
quick zealot
# undone wren always was

I used to hate 2035 until the WS release, then, with a more immersive campaign set around 2035 I started to like and appreciate it

undone wren
quick zealot
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Until WS

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There was also vanilla fatigue, were we saw the same 2035 assets over and over again that we got repulsed by the time period, a phenomena that never happened to us with A2 for some reason

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Some of our players even say that vanilla assets remind them of a time where Arma 3 was nowhere near the level of polish it has now... It is trully important to let the past go in order to enjoy the present

undone wren
quick zealot
# undone wren >doesn't appreciate 2035 vanilla setting but has never actually tried to appreci...

Yes, true. But I was generalizing from my group. Me, personally, I have tried every content A3 has and in regards to 2035 assets I was only able to enjoy Old Man, Contact and now WS... but some Worshop mission too of course (Hunter Six, Antistasi, Dynamic Recon Ops etc). I am myself working on a Old Man sized Coop Mision in the veins of Extraction but much bigger and by using the 2035 setting

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I previously found 2035 assets too generic and uninspired but now I am now starting to believe that that was just due to the lack of variety 2035 had before WS, Art of War and specially Aegis came to save the time period for many

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Myself included

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So it only took 9+ years for me to finally appreciate 2035 😅 . Perhaps I was too fond of A2's setting which I found to be a lot more grounded and immersive

undone wren
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so you love immersive scenarios?

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but you enjoyed contact

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what

quick zealot
undone wren
quick zealot
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The lightning, the sound, the map, the history, the unique elements... It felt a lot more cared for

quick zealot
# undone wren whats not immersive about east wind?

To me, it is as generic as it can be, a wanna be copy of A2's campaign that just lacked the charm of the original but also a convoluted Call of Dutyske story with a bit of james bond in the future... tried to be too many things at once but trying to be big in scope failed with the details and the immersion is all about details

undone wren
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idk i felt that contact felt pretty lackluster and out of place

undone wren
quick zealot
formal shuttle
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@quick zealot ur sleep, 2035 setting is God tier nowadays

quick zealot
undone wren
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yeah mate idk every person is different but the majority of people I know hate modded a3 especially terrain and unit mods

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if people play like malden with ace, enhanced movement, ni arms and stuff then yeah I understand why you like modded but modded terrain and units are weird

quick zealot
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But it is a matter of preference of course, and finally statistics

undone wren
quick zealot
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The thing is that 2035 feels good now... but it wasn't always so

quick zealot
undone wren
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yeah because a3 civilian vanilla stuff is lackluster because it was never meant to be a civilian game

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but koth is mostly vanilla

quick zealot
undone wren
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idk if i would call the cdlc civilian focused

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maybe as civilian focused as laws of war but thats it

quick zealot
fierce gazelle
olive turtle
quick zealot
quick zealot
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And I was wrong about the team being the same as Hunter Six so I will update my review and remove that miss information done on my part, and additionally my complains were mostly fixed/improved upon. It was a positive review and it is even more positive now

bold wren
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Most people play with mods

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You ain't no 2035 enjoyer if ya ain't got Aegis

dull hemlock
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Are you sure it's "most"? I wouldn't think so

hidden fractal
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I can't speak about SP players but for players on MP servers facing the internet it's around 1.5k players playing vanilla A3 and a bit more than 2.5k playing modded, right now (note: these numbers apply to servers without CDLCs) .
So technically, it's true that "most players play modded", but it's not actually a gigantic difference.

undone wren
bold wren
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Also most people play in closed communities, which definitely use mods

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I, as a mostly SP player, use mods, lots of them. I haven't talked to anyone outside of this server that plays either MP or SP without mods. I mean, I respect anyone who doesn't want to use mods. To each their own. But they're missing out

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And we're literally discussing this in a CDLC channel. Which despite being very professional work, and going through BI QA, and I definitely won't call them just mods, when it comes to "lore", none of it is official armaverse lore, so you might as well not use them either

amber beacon
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out of thin air, along with the furniture

quick zealot
worn cypress
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Man where have I seen that armed helicopter before

bold wren
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Everywhere, probably

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It's Hollywood's favorite "Russian" helicopter

worn cypress
bold wren
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That bird goes around

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But yeah, RF's one looks better

worn cypress
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The ArmA dev community used to be pretty tight, people used to help each other out, not copy each others homework for profit

bold wren
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Bruh, what is that even supposed to mean

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Rotators models a new Super Puma gunship, and suddenly they're copying someone else's homework for profit? How the hell does that work?

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Did GM also steal NiArms homework when they made a G3 for their CDLC? Or did SOG copy everyone and their mother's work when they modelled a M113, M16, M60, etc. for their CDLC? No really, I'm seriously curious to understand how that logic works

worn cypress
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😁

fierce gazelle
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pretty good, made me chuckle

rose mango
molten karma
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You're filing a DMCA? PRACS files DMCAs. You absolute copy cat.

knotty mason
stark sluice
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Claiming a Creator DLC did it? 😄

knotty mason
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How could you?

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😭

rose mango
dapper notch
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Textures for legacy Arma factions you say? 🤔

civic lantern
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#RoundelGate kappa

dull hemlock
# hidden fractal I can't speak about SP players but for players on MP servers facing the internet...

There's more to consider though. I would think a massive amount of the millions of people who own A3 are casual players, that play it less frequently.

Secondly, when you look at the MP numbers, it doesn't tell you which is more played. I would expect that the more hardcore players, who play modded, are on there maybe every day or every few days. Whereas the casual players, who don't play modded, are there every week or two, or even every month. So while, in any short-term interval, most of the players are modded, in a longer term, you might get that more players are unmodded but play much less.

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You also have to consider the people you surround yourself with when you say "all my friends" are modded too. If you friends are those who play A3 as much as you, of course they'll mod. But you have to introspect on whether or not you're representative.

winter remnant
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i would just get this for screenshot purposes

old crystal
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my bad racs dookie

fleet scaffold
void matrix
rich cave
barren hare
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hm.. this Cdlc adds water and fire stuff

lusty scarab
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Yo

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Do we have an approximate release date besides, soon ™️?

winter remnant
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nope, Soon™️ is the best we got

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still better than 'once it's ready'

rich cave
cursive pumice
hexed narwhal
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my guess is march 28

brittle walrus
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my guess is March 32nd

open jackal
brittle walrus
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expect things when they are the least expected young padawan

tough ivy
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My guess is soon™️

fierce gazelle
lean patrol
civic lantern
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Ah, the thrill of pushing to production right before holiday or weekend.

lean patrol
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Oh the PTSD.....

winter remnant
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oh Bob is green

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ayy congrats

lean patrol
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Cheers mate 🙇‍♂️

dapper notch
tough ivy
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*when things will go wrong

rich cave
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My guess is it will release

neon bramble
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guessing sometime after the Spring steam Sale ends on 21st

high wharf
bold wren
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I do not

ivory spruce
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any other factions coming with RF?

bold wren
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None confirmed

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Which at this point likely means no

rose mango
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i'm sure this guy has good suggestions tho

ivory spruce
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petition to release it on april fools

molten karma
ivory spruce
lethal pewter
fierce gazelle
blissful trellis
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Moo 🐮

winter remnant
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Stop pox, or you'll summon Lou

blissful trellis
fierce fern
blissful trellis
round ether
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So release is imminent? 😁

brittle walrus
#

huh

fringe horizon
round ether
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The pickups are probably the additions I’m most interested in tbh

umbral pendant
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Same

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Also the nods

round ether
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That and the GL launched UAVs that might work a bit like a switchblade

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All of it really 😁

#

For SOF specific stuff this looks like some good new content

bold wren
#

Noob tube swarm, noob tube swarm

umbral pendant
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It'll be like the MAV squad for BFFs

ivory spruce
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Any idea of a release date?

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soon™️ ?

brittle walrus
#

yes

winter remnant
errant river
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Damn, hopefully this weekend or next week - I can't wait for the new DLC

cursive pumice
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It won't be this weekend, they don't do releases on the weekends. If there isn't a base game update on Monday, I have doubts that it will release next week.

ivory spruce
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Ah. Well I’m excited to fly new trucks

plain birch
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I wonder what the forest fire thing will be like.

Would be cool to bake fire as mechanic in antistasi or liberation

bold wren
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Module which you place down and affects a certain area defined by module radius

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Can be used with triggers

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Fire strength (how much water it takes to put it out) defined in module

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That's pretty much what I remember having been said so far

plain birch
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has anything been said about how it inflicts damage to stuff on the ground?

bold wren
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Well, trees and ground obviously get scorched

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I don't remember if anything else specifically was said. I imagine it'll deal damage to entities similar to how campfires do now, but probably faster

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And will probably deal gradual damage to vehicles as well

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It's been said that you can also put out fires of destroyed vehicles tho

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And campfires

fierce gazelle
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it was a vague idea at first, but considering the amount of tree objects in the game, and their visual quality by now, it would have been madness to make burnt variants for all of them

bold wren
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🤯 I've been swindled

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How does it work then? Burnt trees and scorch marks have to be placed down manually as objects?

fierce gazelle
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yes

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about scorch marks, there are too many possible things that can make it look ugly. best to place manually

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also placing too many objects is bad for performance, so it makes more sense to place fewer but bigger decals

bold wren
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Gotcha

blissful trellis
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Also we didn't wanted to make something uncontrollable

autumn schooner
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I was hoping for Altifornia

glass grove
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Nah

Lifornia

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Or even better

Tanifornia

past hatch
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If devs are willing to tell us before release. Is the bucket part of the Cougar or could it be scripted attached to other vehicles?

fierce gazelle
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every helicopter with slingload feature can use it

bold wren
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Cool

winged spade
cursive pumice
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It would be cool if you could dump water from a Blackfish.

umbral pendant
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Pretty sure you can

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Would be really sad if the blackfish couldn’t sling load but idk maybe it can’t

blissful trellis
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VTOLs can't

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More like planes can't

cursive pumice
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I was wondering if you could script the water dumping to come out of the back of the Blackfish.

umbral pendant
blissful trellis
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It is but even in a scripted way it even is not very comfy to pick up anything heavy

ivory spruce
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Is the 5.56 AP ammo for all 5.56 guns? 👀

fringe horizon
blissful trellis
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Even with my Mod

dapper notch
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airplane sim vehicles cannot slingload

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(and i feel VTOL planes were easier to fly before the jets DLC changes 😬 )

bold wren
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I don't actually remember how it was pre-Jets, or in Arma 2 for that matter

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But it's not so bad now imo

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Everyone complains about the Blackfish, but I find it easier to fly than the Xian

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That thing is temperamental

bold wren
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Just gotta remember they're not helicopters (even tho the mod makes them fly like one, kinda)

gray bough
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So no ETA on this dlc see yet... And no soon isent an ETA, its a VTA (vague time of arrival)

olive widget
dapper notch
gray bough
bold wren
#

Embed fail 🥲

versed roost
bold wren
#

Things are in motion 🙈⚙️

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Update 2.16 CDLC support

round ether
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Yaaaay

bold wren
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It's out boys and girls

exotic steppe
#

Oh boy

dapper notch
brittle walrus
grizzled flume
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yooo ninja drop

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nice

orchid fossil
# bold wren Well, trees and ground obviously get scorched

There's burnt tree replacement and scorch fx in my Persistent Napalm FX scripts. Anybody is welcome to take code from there as a start on persistent forest fire fx. https://forums.bohemia.net/forums/topic/235479-jboy-napalm-fx/

Bohemia Interactive Forums
JBOY Napalm FX

When the normal Prairie Fire napalm effects end, there is no visible damage to trees, bushes, grass and buildings. This is bad for immersion. This script improves on that by detecting where the napalm bombs impact, and replacing trees, bushes and buildings with burnt and burning trees/bushes/buil...

ivory spruce
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OH BABY

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its OUT

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RF is FINALLY OUT

fierce fern
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Congrats on the launch owoYay
I got to play it in the private beta and definetly recommend checking it out! Especially interesting for helo pilots with the new Air Control scenario!

ivory spruce
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i like the new COUGAR Heli

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im gonna buy it 1st thing in the next month

fierce fern
ivory spruce
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im VERY glad that RF only costs 8 euros on steam

ivory spruce
fierce fern
ivory spruce
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if they do plan to add new factions in updates for/to RF id be happy

fringe horizon
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please bohemia add rotoators collective dlcs as base as they expending the arma 3 verse!

ivory spruce
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They are fantastic and immersive

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Super excited to try out reaction forces, I loved western sahara

fierce fern
fringe horizon
grizzled flume
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is there any word on official server hosting for RF?

fringe horizon
grizzled flume
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a couple of official aircontrol servers hosting RF and WS would be sick

blissful trellis
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We are the rotorheads

fringe horizon
blissful trellis
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Yup, I got a lot of responsibilities regarded to the core functions: Wildfires and much more

fringe horizon
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nice

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let your team lead now he needs to make more dlcs

lean patrol
blissful trellis
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Does that mean you are working on Arma 6431235

lean patrol
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At this point in time I can neither confirm nor deny anything besides what has been officially communicated by Bohemia Interactive.

blissful trellis
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Bohemia Communicated

glass grove
fringe horizon
glass grove
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Sefrou Ramal gonna look sick with Tura rebels running Glocks with a switches

stark sluice
glass grove
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And Grad rockets being fired from the new technicals

hidden fractal
#

What's the name/type of that helmet shown on the main image for RF?

orchid fossil
glass grove
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To the boys at Rotators. Has any of the content within RF been integrated with the Extraction scenario like Bohemia did with the East Wind or Tac-Ops missions and their own DLCs (e.g. Apex DLC Weapons being available for use if you own the DLC)?

fierce gazelle
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an update for western sahara will be released in the future. it will integrate some stuff with a soft dependency. however, there is no release date for that as of now, so can't say when it will happen

glass grove
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Acknowledged. Looking forward to that update!

ivory spruce
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i really Really REALLY like the new cougar heli

exotic steppe
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no servers up yet, right?

ivory spruce
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idk

grizzled flume
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seems like the old ones are down so maybe they are updating them?

ivory spruce
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im gonna buy RF 1st thing next month

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RF is very cheap ONLY 8 euros

glass grove
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Literally downloading it rn

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Enjoy my 8 euros, Rotators Collective and Bohemia.

ivory spruce
#

nice Antoine

ivory spruce
cyan copper
fleet scaffold
#

i bet there are more people looking for this, so here:

// server.cfg Reaction Forces - Air Control Mission & Parameters
class Missions
{
    class MP_AirControl_m01 // name for the first entry - can be anything (characters/numbers/underscore, but no spaces!)
    {
        template = "MP_AirControl_m01.Altis";
        difficulty = "custom";
        class Params
        {
            lxRF_EnableSave = 1;
            lxRF_EnFaction = 0 // AAF 1 CSAT;
            lxRF_OnlyPilots = 0; // 1 true
            lxRF_StartGameParam = 0; // 0,5,10,15,20,25,30,40,50,60,70,80,90;
            lxRF_ViewDistance = 1600; // 2000,2250,2500,2750,3000,3250,3500,3750,4000,4250,4500,4750,5000
        };
    };
};
cyan copper
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official servers ```
Arma 3 CDLC : Reaction Forces

EU servers
95.156.239.76:2102 Air Control, Regular
95.156.239.76:2202 QRF, Regular
95.156.239.76:2302 Cash Point, Malden, Regular
95.156.239.76:2402 Cash Point, Tanoa, Regular
95.156.239.76:2502 Zeus, Regular
95.156.239.76:2602 Air Control, Veteran
95.156.239.76:2702 Custom select
95.156.239.76:2802 Custom select

US east servers
45.159.5.134:2102 Air Control, Regular
45.159.5.134:2202 QRF, Regular
45.159.5.134:2302 Cash Point, Malden, Regular
45.159.5.134:2402 Cash Point, Tanoa, Regular
45.159.5.134:2502 Zeus, Regular
45.159.5.134:2602 Air Control, Veteran
45.159.5.134:2702 Custom select
45.159.5.134:2802 Custom select

US east servers
5.62.71.130:2102 Air Control, Regular
5.62.71.130:2202 QRF, Regular
5.62.71.130:2302 Cash Point, Malden, Regular
5.62.71.130:2402 Cash Point, Tanoa, Regular
5.62.71.130:2502 Zeus, Regular
5.62.71.130:2602 Air Control, Veteran
5.62.71.130:2702 Custom select
5.62.71.130:2802 Custom select

feel free to ping me if problems
grizzled flume
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guessing these are RF only? as in western sahara will not load?

cyan copper
#

ye RF only

cedar robin
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How do you activate RC-40 ?

fierce gazelle
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get a uav terminal, then shoot it from a gl. it will deploy then

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keep in mind they do not work in the virtual arsenal due to the nature of how it works

cedar robin
#

Oh i see now thanks.

fierce gazelle
#

you have to enable that pilot rotating camera with ctrl + right click

thorny sage
#

Is there a way for me to bind a key to releasing the water from the bucket that I got sling loaded? I fly with a joystick and having to switch the the mouse to use the scroll wheel menu is a bit.. annoying.

fierce gazelle
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same way it works on the laws of war demining drone, etc

bold wren
cedar robin
thorny sage
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Much appreciated!

cyan copper
cyan copper
high steeple
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Are the items like guns and others available in base game Arma without starting the dlc?

civic lantern
#

no, it's a Creator DLC, you can load compatiblity data from Steam Workshop if you don't own it.

high steeple
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Yeah but why aren't they available in the base game ?

winter remnant
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because it's a Creator DLC

civic lantern
high steeple
#

Man why do you have to let me down after I got my hopes up that we can get new items

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Aw man another paid mod

civic lantern
#

Every Creator DLC works the same so you can only blame yourself for "getting your hopes up" shruge

winter remnant
#

frutation is understandable, but arma 3 is runned by 3 or 4 man dev team now since the rest are in Reforger, so asking for offical content with high quality standard seems unlikely to happens.

high steeple
high steeple
winter remnant
#

Legal stuff and such a complex thing for me to explain, you can read it on that link above

civic lantern
#

IDK what disaster, as GlobMod is high quality and highly respected in the community.

pallid pecan
#

Whats the shorthand to launch it using startup parameters?

civic lantern
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-mod=RF

high steeple
civic lantern
#

They won't. We don't need to talk about this here tho.

high steeple
pallid pecan
high steeple
civic lantern
#

Playing SP content? Making stuff in the editor? Playing CoOp with friends? Playing with your Arma 3 Unit?

high steeple
civic lantern
storm jackal
#

Air Control intro. Was that male voice AI?

haughty umbra
vapid ember
winter remnant
high steeple
fierce gazelle
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you can use the content in the same way as you can use the official dlc content from BI

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that means, you can check it out, but using it will trigger ads on your screen

round ether
#

What a tool

tranquil marlin
#

The air control scenario is great

brittle walrus
#

in Air Control, what are the radio icons with pulsing areas supposed to mean? I thought it's meant to signal enemy movement and after sending a recon drone game told me that there are contacts but I saw only a dead friendly squad.

ivory spruce
#

yes there's a black vermin smg. thank you 🥲

glass grove
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That's after installing

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The download itself is about 3 GB

gusty glade
#

Got a quick question regarding the new Reaction Forces wildfire module:

Is there a way to make the fire spread on it's own? Or is it just a static prop?

brittle walrus
#

so a module, not a static prop. And since it's a module, it is a script, so you can easily "translate" it to a function that would spawn new wildfires around.

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or just activate/spawn modules after certain amount of time passed and conditions were achieved.

gusty glade
#

I see.. Unfortunate that it can't have spreading. Oh well!

brittle walrus
gusty glade
#

I see... Ty!

fierce gazelle
#

however.. you can sync multiple modules together. the module with highest intensity will then grow the others

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so you could place one high intensity and some lower intensity modules, sync them together and over time the fire will grow

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it's not the same as dynamic spreading of course, but i guess better than nothing

maiden elk
# brittle walrus

could've been a toggle but it is what it is, might be lucky to have it update

rich cave
#

Whoever came up with the logo. It has to be one of the coolest

winter remnant
vagrant kite
#

are we able to spawn the fire in zeus or is it an editor only thing?

timid sun
#

you can put a drum mag in the Hades h6

civic lantern
#

unable to repro on my end, with and without CBA so it's not our magwells at least. Must be one of your mods ;P

timid sun
#

I seriously love the Truck, we needed a more modern Truck in the game without the Jank of being a mod.

blissful trellis
blissful trellis
#

(Modules and Functions are actually hard to read rn. Wanted to improve anytime soon)

vagrant kite
crisp granite
# timid sun I seriously love the Truck, we needed a more modern Truck in the game without th...

The Pickup's modularity is great. Combined with the vanilla armed Offroads and MB 4WDs, you can pretty much make an army that only consists of technicals now. blobcloseenjoy

Only gripe I've got with it is that it's a bit strange for everyone to be using the SPMG. I can understand the FIA using it since they're NATO-backed, but it's kinda odd that the AAF and Syndikat MMG Pickups are using it too. They should've been given Navids instead. That way, you'd be able to have MMG Pickups for CSAT as well without having them use the SPMG.

dull hemlock
#

Damn. Rotator Collective's trailer game is on point. This and WS's were both cool

dull hemlock
#

Hi. Also, when it says to drop the team where they are needed most, because there are multiple people that need help, where exactly are those denoted? Do the little DROP ZONE markers count? Or is it just the "Support Attack" waypoint I can drop them?

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Oh, my bad. I think it's the little red squares that denote where my friendlies are

timid sun
#

Can we get a better mounting point for the tailgate on the pickup though?

blissful trellis
#

Mounting point? Do you mean weapon deploy/rest?

timid sun
thorny sage
#

with the HEMTT firetruck, is this being used for a game mechanic or is it just a reskin of a HEMTT fuel with no extra functionality?

blissful trellis
#

It should be just a retex without fuel. Very small asset without much of effort

thorny sage
#

ah okay, I was trying my hardest to figure out if it had any other function. thanks for clarifying it

blissful trellis
#

Probably Lexx should write This is just a boring retextured asset on the firetruck 😄

thorny sage
#

I mean I would find it funny if its written in a small and obscure place on the truck that you can only find if you really look for it.

blissful trellis
#

Reminds of Melle graffiti on LoW ambulance

dim talon
#

Anyone run into the issue if you wanna board the helicopter in the new scenarios it just instantly explodes on you if you use advanced flight model?

thorny sage
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hmm.. I just had it happen when turning the helo on..

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on simple flight model, that doesn't happen.

fierce gazelle
fierce gazelle
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it doesn't seem to always explode. especially if you place it a little higher in 3den

thorny sage
#

I just tried, and ye when you get in the helo, it takes the damage. when you do not get in. either it takes the damage or its fine. but if you spawn it from zeus, on adv flight model, it doesn't blow up.

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hmm zeus placed also has it :/

languid hearth
#

Really good cdlc so far. Gg

fierce gazelle
wise slate
#

Hello. My friends and I immediately purchased the CDLC. I did it out of trust, given the appreciation I have for Western Sahara, for the high quality of your work. Once again, I'm positively surprised. Scripts, textures, models, and so on are absolutely up to par with the base game.

thorny sage
#

hmm.. I may have found a bug with arma itself now. that if (only tried helicopters) helicopters are synced to a vehicle respawn module, and the settings are applied for the wrecks to be deleted, that your character is teleported to debug corner once the helicopter is destroyed. if the wrecks are preserved, you are in the wreck and teleported to debug corner..

dim talon
brittle walrus
thorny sage
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better yet, I just recorded it.

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but I will go and do that now

cyan copper
#

morning, just seeking some feedback anyone who played on the official servers of Arma 3 CDLC Reaction Forces ... ie all fine ? all broken ? bad fps ?

thorny sage
fierce gazelle
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can't say, that one is out of our control :p

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the issue is related to the suspension length. shortly before release i fixed a gears related issue, which resulted in the suspension values to be wrong. this is why the helicopter explodes now. suspension length needs to be increased to fit again

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since the advanced flight model is using much more complex data, this only happens if the AFM is enabled, not in standard mode

thorny sage
fierce gazelle
#

i need a repro for that.

spark idol
dull hemlock
#

Would this by any chance potentially cause the heli to be fragile w.r.t. landing? Because that's how it feels the cougar is to me. You have to land like an absolute angel otherwise you'll get some damage

fierce gazelle
#

not really. you cant crash down with any helicopter

gaunt cypress
blissful trellis
#

It doesn't seem to be a vanilla game though. Do you access to the unit through Zeus Remote Control or nah?

gaunt cypress
blissful trellis
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Modded = not vanilla

gaunt cypress
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my bad 🙂

blissful trellis
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What kind of Mods anyways?

gaunt cypress
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a lot Mods, but its not important now cuz same thing still happens in REAL vanilla game(no addon nor mod)
start the server through arma3server_x64.exe, empty mission for test:https://imgur.com/km0YYPm
the bug wont happen if play through Eden Editor

Imgur
blissful trellis
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🤔 Let me check

thorny sage
fierce gazelle
#

ghost hawk is a vanilla helicopter, nothing we can do about that

gaunt cypress
blissful trellis
gaunt cypress
blissful trellis
#

Should be the same with mine. Are you sure you unload everything?

gaunt cypress
#

100% sure.

gaunt cypress
gaunt cypress
bold wren
cyan copper
tight hill
blissful trellis
#

Seriously I couldn't repro 🤔 It seems something is wrong with Dedi's setting

fierce gazelle
#

difficulty settings?

still rivet
#

would reaction forces be supported with more weapons and vehicles?

fierce gazelle
#

sadly we can't talk about any future updates, especially since usually nothing is 100% certain until all the work has been done

still rivet
#

hope to see some wheeled tank destroyers based on APC hulls in the future as it has never been done before in vanilla Arma 3

brittle walrus
#

it's better to not hope for anything and then get excited with every update they come up with

deft void
brittle walrus
#

you have to deliver it with a truck, no helicopter is capable of lifting this iirc

deft void
#

ohhh gotcha

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the hemtt right?

brittle walrus
#

yup, flatbed one I reckon

deft void
#

alright thanks buddy

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thank god there's a fast forward

glass grove
#

Man the Hades Rifle performs great, and the RC-40 HE is essentially a compact Loitering Munition to delete snipers and mg gunners with

fierce gazelle
glass grove
#

Btw, tested the RF Gear and even vehicles via SSPCM in the Extraction scenario. The RF gear makes missions much easier to complete, but still fun to play

brittle walrus
#

I love the grenade drone.

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Little guy.

glass grove
cursive pumice
grizzled flume
#

One thing that would be nice for Air Control would be a lock mechanic for vehicles like warlords. I’ve witnessed some vehicle stealing on the pub server meowsweats

old pivot
#

Is anyone else having trouble with the RF Compat Data signatures? I can join the server if I have Reaction Forces installed, even if not loaded. But as soon as I uninstall the DLC, im no longer (and neither is anyone else from 3 people I tried this with) able to join the server, getting kicked for unsigned files.

tight hill
old pivot
olive widget
#

What is the exact error message?
It gets copied to your clipboard when it pops up, so you can just paste it

old pivot
#

But the weird part is that I can join on compat data as long as I own the DLC, that's what's confusing me

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Unfortunately this isn't an isolated issue as I've now had 3 people verify the same thing

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None of them own Reaction Forces, none of them can join with compatibility data, I can replicate the issue myself if I uninstall Reaction Forces, but can join if they're installed (Steam-wise), regardless of whether they're loaded in "Mods"

olive widget
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Yeah

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Link is fine

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One thing that shouldn't matter..... But.. maybe.
In your compat data there is a "keys" folder with a file inside.
Copy that file into your Arma 3/keys folder and see if that changes anything.
It shouldn't be needed on clientside though

spark idol
#

where are all these cooler versions of bohemia devs coming from?

old pivot
olive widget
#

Okey it's really the sign..
Check if there is RF.bikey in the servers "keys" folder

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Is it a dedicated server?

old pivot
old pivot
olive widget
#

🤔

old pivot
olive widget
#

@fierce gazelle heard anything? (Cannot join servers with compat data because bisign/key Missmatch)
I don't know who signs the data. Is compat data signed with same key? meowsweats

old pivot
olive widget
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The keys should be the same

old pivot
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they should be

olive widget
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Can you do comparison if they have the same bytes inside?

old pivot
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never did byte comparison before, what tool to use?

olive widget
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I'll be back in half hour

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Send me bikey and a bisign of normal and compat data per DM please

fierce gazelle
old pivot
#

why do these weird issues always seem to hit me in particular

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although we don't know if anyone else from outside has tried dedi server yet so

old pivot
olive widget
#

Turns out I don't have time anymore today. I'll be back in 14 hours

old pivot
old pivot
old pivot
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Update: A3 launched on the server machine can join via localhost without owning DLC (compat data loaded). No one else is being let through

old pivot
cursive fog
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are there any scenarios like the CTI present in reaction forces, with the days passing and mutliple objectives at once, but on the ground? im not a big fan of flying helicopters in this game.

old pivot
fierce gazelle
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huh. could swear i've read about it some time ago regarding something else

old pivot
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How does Western Sahara handle this? Afaik it wasn't an issue there

fierce gazelle
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that's the weird thing. this shouldn't be an issue at all.

old pivot
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Right..?

gloomy prism
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Smells like a lightly corrupted file got into the Steam depot or something

old pivot
gloomy prism
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....then how does it know the difference?

old pivot
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Some other way, base Arma 3 with no DLC already comes with all keys for all the DLC's, it verifies ownership/licensing with something else

old pivot
gloomy prism
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Oh that's the missing link, I thought you were replacing an existing key with another one. If there wasn't one originally then that's probably it

old pivot
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Ah, whatever, got to the bottom of it at least.
Now after 4 hours of troubleshooting I can finally go and enjoy the content you guys made :)

old pivot
past hatch
#

Where's the best place to report minor issues?

fierce gazelle
fringe horizon
#

Will there be a Doorgun Variant of the H225M ?

old pivot
fierce gazelle
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yeah, had to cut down on model count at some point. we already have 8 model variants, which is very tedious to work with when fixing bugs, etc

blissful trellis
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I tried to hunt down AFM-ish gauge is showing anyways issue but can't figure it out

simple socket
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It seems to be that the dedicated isn't saving the options, im having the gauges stuck on my server

blissful trellis
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It seems the saving option itself is working properly, interface didn't initialized properly though

old pivot
simple socket
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I've tried call lxRF_fnc_openCustomConfig as an admin, it properly works, but I don't believe its writing to my profile, if I may ask, where's the directory for the custom game options cfg?

blissful trellis
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No, it's not about your local profile, it's only for dedi server

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As the text there said

simple socket
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Yes, I'm attempting to see if its not saving to my dedi

blissful trellis
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It will be saved into dedi's profile

simple socket
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I'm at a loss then, when changing it and saving it, they remain on

blissful trellis
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So I am

fierce gazelle
#

any way of using the debug console to check if something is off?

simple socket
#

I could, what would you want me to check? Currently seeing if maybe the option is tied to mission rather than profile

blissful trellis
# 
["get","lxRF_HeliRTDGauges"] call lxRF_fnc_customGameOptions```Returns 0 when it is disabled, 1 for TPP only, 2 for both FPP/TPP
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This syntax should consider the dedi's setting

exotic steppe
#

when a friend asked for supplies on the air control mission it consumed my points and leaved me in -250 xp
is this known, is it going to get a fix?

blissful trellis
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CJ is working on the investigation IIRC

keen linden
#

how do I move the large cargo containers?

exotic steppe
simple socket
keen linden
#

Oh, I did not know I could grab the other helicopters

exotic steppe
blissful trellis
robust oxide
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Does anyone Know the Like code for this DLC? Im trying to add it into my antistasi Game

blissful trellis
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Pinned

robust oxide
simple socket
# blissful trellis Anwyhere you run the code

I either can't find where the value is returning when running that through debug, server or local exec's, or there is none, checked player and server .rpt's, and serverconsole to no avail

blissful trellis
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Can you re-set in singleplayer, and try again?

gloomy prism
simple socket
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Ah, thank you, returns 0 in SP, no return in Dedi

old pivot
simple socket
blissful trellis
#

Huh server exec?

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It's not meant to be run in Server Exec

simple socket
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Local exec as admin returns nothing aswell, so I tried server

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Sorry not zero

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Returns nothing

blissful trellis
#

Okay gotta recheck

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Ah, shit, okay, I got the repro

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What a twist... I've never realized this could happen

simple socket
#

I felt crazy cause its only happening to a few, I thought it may be due to setting the server up via FASTER (and maybe because of it, preventing it from writing it to server profile), but even without faster its still happening

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Thank you for looking into it too

blissful trellis
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The thing is, you don't load RF in the server right?

simple socket
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As a serverMod? No

blissful trellis
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Yeah that'd be why. In a MP the setting should follow to server's setting, and the server failed to load it, it also fails to client to know which is the current setting

simple socket
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Though you may be right, I see it has only loaded western sahara

blissful trellis
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Just in case can you load RF as well and see if it's gone?

simple socket
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Will do, just to double check, RF's filename is just rf right?

blissful trellis
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Yes, it should load

simple socket
blissful trellis
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Noted. Subject to be fixed anyways

ivory spruce
robust oxide
ivory spruce
#

Thanks!

tranquil marlin
#

From what I understand the Hades is based on a real gun but I'm confused about its purpose

brittle walrus
#

it's purpose is shooting bad guys

gloomy prism
#

In reality it's a civilian sport and hunting rifle.
In Arma, its niche is being lightweight and having very good handling. It's got a longer barrel than other 5.56 guns in the game, giving it good velocity and precision, while being lighter than higher-calibre DMRs, which reduces stamina drain and aim sway. It's a good gun to take (with the AP ammo) if you want a combination of mobility and range.

willow flint
blissful trellis
#

Do I need to post Penguins gif or Michael from GTA V gif

thorny sage
#

is there a way to check whether a wildfire module has been extuingished succesfully with code? so I could for example set up a trigger to then set a task state depending on whether the fire is out?

blissful trellis
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There is a straightforward way to execute a script upon a extinguish, or if you actually mean check if it issqf [_module, "getIntensity"] call lxRF_fnc_wildFire

fierce gazelle
#

could also use an array if there are multiple fires in an area

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for example, find all modules within range of object X lxRF_WildfireA = nearestObjects [a_water_target_1, ["Module_WildFire_RF"], 300];

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then check intensity status count (lxRF_WildfireA select { (_x getvariable "lxRF_fireIntensity") <= 0.06 }) > 7

thorny sage
#

Ah thanks. thats some very useful information!

cyan copper
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so i setup those servers with RF+WS to run rotation of AirControl.Altis and CashPoint.Malden US west 5.62.71.130:2902 US east 45.159.5.134:2902 EU 95.156.239.76:2902 SkypeWondering if all Armad

thorny sage
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is there also a way to influence how fast a fire grows when a wildfire module is synced to another module set at a value of 100% intensity?
I would like to lower the rate at which a fire grows, as I currently am noticing that the fire rapidly increases in intensity between values of 0.05% intensity and 70% intensity. But after 70% it slows down quite a bit. It seems like a fire can intensify to 70% within 10ish minutes. after which it takes a very long time before it reaches that 100% intensity. So I am wondering if I can slow down the rate before the 70%?

Since with how fast you can extinguish a fire in the game with 1 helicopter for example, you just can't keep up with the fire growing until the 70% mark.

After 20 minutes, the fire is only at 75% intensity.
actually make it 30 minutes.

dull hemlock
#

Is it just me or QRF is a really difficult mission. I get SWARMED with a fuck ton of enemy with 10m left. Just want to know if I'm bad at the game or not

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Farmstead

bold wren
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It is difficult 😄

tranquil marlin
#

Air control is great but in sp it seems the bases are stuck with low supply due to how many missions you get

brittle walrus
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I usually do all tasks but one to not end the day when I come back to base, grab a Huron and deliver the biggest crates to max out the supply levels in those bases. If I'm not too bored, I drop some additional ones near them so I don't have to go back and forth from the MOB

winter willow
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i think it is more feasable here:

quick question: is someone else also having issues with advanced flight model and the reaction forces cdlc? Issue is that everytime i have it enabled as soon as i got into pilot slot the helo gets damaged. If i get in a normal cargo seat the helo is fine

fierce gazelle
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yes, fixed in next patch

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likely sometime next week, sadly can't get it out faster

winter willow
#

thx guys 😄

blissful trellis
thorny sage
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hmm. I fear that right now for me it is uncontrollable. I'd like to slow down the rate from 0 to 70%. so it would become a bit easier to fight it. over a longer time period. like, instead of it taking 10 minutes for the fire to reach the 70% intensity, I would like to make it 20 minutes or 30 minutes.

blissful trellis
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Well I was more feared to have infinite loop

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I once actually thought about intensity coef, but I found it isn't really worth of rush (yeah the influence system was implemented very late)

bold wren
lyric furnace
#

Aye I’m playing air power right now and my helo’s a bit damaged, how do I repair it?

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Dw I found it

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Another issue tho I how do I move the big crates

lyric furnace
#

Buy big helicopter

brittle walrus
still coral
#

will a wild fire increase its own intensity?
and how would I a add a fire mid-mission?

blissful trellis
#

Intensity will not increase by itself. Also pinned post

dull hemlock
#

If your heli gets too damaged to fly, and you're far from base, are you essentially fucked?

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I don't see what can be done other than walking back

bold wren
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Call Nightmare-1 from the support menu

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Assuming you're playing SP and have no other players to pick you up

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Although you can also call Nightmare-1 in MP

dull hemlock
#

I did not read his options properly and thought it was a plane not a heli. mb

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I laboured through yesterday trying to land with no tail rotor

bold wren
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Yeah, it's the other gunship that sits at the FOB

brittle walrus
#

you are fucked however if Nightmare gets taken down

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don't remember if there's any cooldown on it to respawn and how long but tbh I'd appreciate having a land-based AI recovery vehicle too, just for convenience

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ooor let me recruit more guys in the group troll_smiling

bold wren
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Yup, just keep an AI in a truck at base 😄

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Nightmare-1 respawns the next day

fierce gazelle
brisk forge
brittle walrus
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it's called "Pickup"

brisk forge
#

ok then i need to loock again but with the cldc filter in mod search i coundnt find it i look for it again!

brittle walrus
#

if you're looking for that with Titan specifically then it's a composition

brisk forge
#

ah okay! i thought that was some sort of hellfire ground launching vehicle but its in the compositions now?

brittle walrus
#

I'm saying that it is a composition, dunno if it's a part of the Reaction Forces, but I'd assume it's not

brisk forge
#

well that sucks the images makes it look like a new vehicle not a composition!

dapper notch
#

its not a composition, its a real vehicle

brittle walrus
#

huh

dapper notch
#

its the AA variant

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let me check

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Pickup (AA)

brittle walrus
#

well my bad then, I guess I misread something

dapper notch
#

B_Pickup_aat_rf

brittle walrus
#

@brisk forge ^

dapper notch
#

the periscope is extensible, normally it spawns retracted

brisk forge
#

ah well thanks guys i somehow missed that! shame that this is an AA and not a vehicle to lauch laser guided missles!

cold wadi
#

qhow do we find the servers?

brittle walrus
cold wadi
#

thx

hallow shore
lyric furnace
exotic steppe
#

any news on the bug where the player money goes into the negatives when another player requests vehicles or supplies?

languid rose
#

Will be fixed with next patch

exotic steppe
#

guessing the eta is when its ready? 🥺

fierce gazelle
#

next week maybe

#

today and monday are hollidays + weekend in the middle of course

pulsar lava
#

@gaunt cypress Sorry to ping, did you guys ever get the gauges thing figured out? I couldn't find the fix by scrolling 😅

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Still having that problem myself

pulsar lava
#

Nvm I found Polpox saying there's a fix on the way :)

plucky gust
#

Hey guys, we were trying to host a dedicated server using the air control game mode mission. Where would we find the mission file to put into the dedicated server template? thanks guys

brittle walrus
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start server with the CDLC and select mission from mission selection screen on the server

plucky gust
#

its possible to select missions before loading the server when doing a dedicated server?

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how would we do that?

native valley
#

is there a way to get zeus on locally hosted? specifically air control mission

ivory spruce
#

Nato doesn’t have a Cougar with the chin 20mm cannon in the editor 🥲

I’m having a skill issue trying to find the name of the texture the unarmed Nato cougar has so I can put it on one that has the chin 20mm

blissful trellis
#

It's a hidden class for a reason, but you can spawn

ivory spruce
#

Okie dokie. I absolutely love the new DLC. Thank you RC and BI

high yarrow
#

Guys, I am looking to buy RF but is there a free showcase so I can see all the new swag it the editor or compatibility files before I buy?

blissful trellis
#

Just use Compat File and try it out in Virtual Arsenal or Editor

blissful trellis
ivory spruce
#

Yep!

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Thank you, I’ll have a look later

neon bramble
#

played the firefighting mission and Air Ops and enjoyed both

noble oxide
#

@fierce gazelle hey. Where is the mission file name in this dlc ?. I just want to create a dedicated server with the mission loaded in already. Thanks and have a good day

blissful trellis
ebon lantern
#

where do i find the water bucket for the cougar?

fierce gazelle
#

in scenery tab, type "bucket" into the filter and you'll see it in the list

pulsar lava
#

Is there an ETA on the gauges in modded server fix??

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I know a patch was mentioned, and it's only been 7 days, so obviously no rush :)

fierce gazelle
#

cant say when the next patch will release. hopefully soon™️

pulsar lava
broken geyser
#

Anyone having issues with seeing the fire? Only the host and one other can see the fire; and 3 others cannot. Any ideas? Thanks.

winter remnant
#

do the 3 others have RF loaded?

sinful tulip
#

Is there a list with all weapons that can fire the GL UAV? A lot of the GLs dont seem to be able to

lime grove
#

Do you happen to have the SOG cDLC loaded? Most UGLs should but SOG seems to interfere.

blissful trellis
#

It's known if you're using SOGPF

sinful tulip
#

Oh alright, thank you

gritty canyon
#

to host a dedicated server on Air Control (ium using the server host HostHavoc) what are the things i need to do in order to get it running, i know i need to obviously set the mission file as "MP_AirControl_m01.Altis" but is there something else because i cant seem to get it working, thanks

gritty canyon
sinful tulip
#

Is there a way to hotkey the RC-HE 40 detonation?

fierce gazelle
#

not right now. will be in next patch

wet bluff
#

Awesome awesome dlc. Got it today

winged spade
#

Sooo good, it make dick hard

languid hearth
#

Now, we can have a sword tournament amongst us ⚔️

old shuttle
#

Hello, This might be a stupid question but is there a way to bind a button to release the water?

fierce gazelle
#

it's R key (reload)

old shuttle
#

Thanks

gritty canyon
#

is there any way to manual save, everytime i rejoin a server it seems to reset my xp

harsh drum
#

what are all the red exclamation-marks on the cashpoint map?

opal shell
#

hello, ive softlocked myself in aircontrol seemingly, will the restart mission button restart the entire campaign, or just the day im on, ive got a save from the previous day i can use, but i figured its worth finding out about the restart mission button

upper edge
opal shell
#

gah bummer

fierce gazelle
#

how did you soft lock? or what exactly is the problem

tight hill
#

can the dynamic ai from cashpoint be triggered from custom missions also, if so.. how?

fierce gazelle
#

the driving civ car script can be run from outside the missions, but it's really not anything fancy

tight hill
fierce gazelle
# 
[
   ["C_Hatchback_01_F",
   "C_SUV_01_F",
   "C_Pickup_covered_rf","C_Pickup_rf","B_Pickup_rf","B_Pickup_Comms_rf",
   "B_MRAP_01_F","B_APC_Wheeled_01_cannon_F",
   "C_Offroad_01_F","C_Offroad_02_unarmed_F",
   "C_Van_01_transport_F","C_Van_01_box_F","C_Van_01_transport_F","C_Van_02_transport_F",
   "C_Truck_02_transport_F","C_Truck_02_covered_F",
   "C_Truck_01_water_rf",
   "C_Tractor_01_F","C_Quadbike_01_F"],
   ["lxRF_WorldBorder_0","lxRF_WorldBorder_1","lxRF_WorldBorder_2","lxRF_WorldBorder_3","lxRF_WorldBorder_4","lxRF_WorldBorder_5","lxRF_WorldBorder_6","lxRF_WorldBorder_7","lxRF_WorldBorder_8","lxRF_WorldBorder_9","lxRF_WorldBorder_10"],
   6
] spawn lxRF_fnc_ambientCars;```
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lxRF_WorldBorder_0, 1, 2, etc. are invisible 2d marker

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defines possible spawn and ending points

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however, the script is extremely basic and there's very likely much better scripts out in the wild

blissful trellis
#

🤯

#

I actually didn't noticed this 🤣

tight hill
#

ive seen many dynamic ai, but never one.. where a driver rammed my car (killed me) and drove away.