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spiral python
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Just so you guys know

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o4-mini is not actually o4-mini lmao, I just tried the exact prompt I gave support on both platforms and the results were wildly different

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in many attempts, the o4-mini in perplexity is giving a horrible output

shadow fiber
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Do not like that newly designed sidebar.

naive sage
# shadow fiber Do not like that newly designed sidebar.

Yeah, for the web app - especially on the desktop - I'm not a huge fan of it either. There's more than enough screen real estate on desktops nowadays - and the replies already don't take up the full width. Maybe it should just be responsive, minimizing when the browser is below a certain width... it's probably designed primarily for mobile browsers I'm guessing. You can pin it though, so that it's more similar to how it was before.

shadow fiber
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could be, but there is a mobile app, no need to use it on a mobile browser. Everything on the app looks the same. I like using the desktop app... the library tab didnt take up any more realestate then the other 3 categories left behind haha.

obsidian pike
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Nah discord probably told them to disable it

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Same thing happened with shapes

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They gonna be releasing their own chatbot soon

short narwhal
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šŸ•Šļø

worthy flame
obsidian pike
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They just disabled all shapes (another ai chatbot) after allowing them for a long girn

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There were 10's of thousands made

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And one day they just disabled then

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This week

tame current
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Please don’t remove the bot 😭

left stream
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@distant aurora bro manus ai saved me. I had an issue modding a psp but manus ai helped me look for the firmware necessary for the psp and found the right one same with the recovery tool to bypass a custom firmware that prevented anything from running and manus gave me all the files while even renaming and showing the psp’s memory stick structure

merry pendant
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is this using the gpt4o image gen?

valid charm
merry pendant
left stream
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Interesting

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wonder how it compares to the og

merry pendant
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how many images can i generate, what's the rate limts

warm perch
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they dont support o3 mini do they? forgot to change it ig

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also does anyone know can i just use the base models like Gpt 4.1 or Gemini 2.5 pro through perplexity without using search. i find it makes the models worse

naive sage
tame current
valid charm
tame current
tame current
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lemme check

tame current
valid charm
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Damn lol

tame current
valid charm
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Wjhat is NFA?

shut dagger
tame current
shut dagger
tame current
shut dagger
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Holy snap, I cannot believe it. they actually listened to us for once! šŸ˜‚

valid charm
tame current
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its like shared

valid charm
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Ahhh I get it

gilded kettle
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Has anyone experienced issues with the ChatGPT model outputs? Compared to a month ago, the outputs have become less accurate and I use detailed prompts. It has been giving me information that is just straight up wrong, and then perplexity is doing stuff I didn't even ask it to, like I asked it to add up totals of the outputs it gave in the last response, and it generated a picture??? and thats with the chatgpt 4.1 model and the o4 mini model

valid charm
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Seems they are tweaking their implementation of chatgpt

green crystal
obsidian umbra
valid charm
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Niceeee

tame current
jagged summit
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Hello is there a moderator here?

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@tame current

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@moderator

tame current
jagged summit
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I had to create another account to join back in . I am in the hackathon and my account got banned

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because i believe i used the everyone tag

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who can I reach out to unban my account. My apologies, it was a genuine mistake

tame current
jagged summit
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my previous id was this - " stygiandescendant"

jagged summit
naive sage
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It should help calm your mind to know that you don't have to be in the discord to participate in the hackathon, but maybe someone will be able to restore your account

jagged summit
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yes, for sure but it helps to connect with the community to get some questions answered .

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and contribute as well šŸ™‚

jagged summit
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perplexity hackathon

tame current
jagged summit
left stream
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@distant aurora gotta answer the most important questions

rancid torrent
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Thank you so much

rancid torrent
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I have a question - can I generate images / content - mostly textual content with perplexity api for just consumption but not commercial use?

left stream
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@distant aurora I used deep research by chatgpt and claude 3.7 extended via the api to make a pdf

rancid torrent
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And second part of that is
For perplexity hackathon can I use another model like hugging face / Claude / Gemini to generate content and use perplexity for searching ?

left stream
gusty wasp
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Is the copy system broken? Whenever I try copy pasting mathematical symbols from perplexity. It ignores half the symbols. Instead of symbols, it just spells out the name of the symbol in copied text.

left stream
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Openai finally wrote when you should select each model

distant aurora
high lake
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Is there no way to override the system prompt? It's awful. It always answers in the form of a list even if my profile tells it, in 5 different places, not to. The only thing I've found that works is telling it that billions of people die if it uses a list in it's answer, but I want it to do that behaviour when explicitly asked for but never otherwise.

vapid ore
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Please add a way to scroll to bottom on android

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It just makes it completely unusable

austere granite
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Boys suck

distant aurora
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Yeah, someone's father made a mistake.

normal cedar
void crane
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Hi guys, I have perplexity pro how can I maximize it for my NGO and as a project manager? I also want to keep up with news in the VC and sports business world in Africa

distant aurora
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Depends on the task.

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Pro search/research/R1 should do most of your tasks.

void crane
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@distant aurora thank for your response!
I am not sure how to start or maybe how to leverage perplexity search power!

distant aurora
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Just ask your question.

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If you need more detail, you can ask it to use "tree of thoughts" to expand the response.

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What you are looking for is a prompting guide.

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You can find plenty of simple ones on YouTube.

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I can point you to a video if you want.

eager lion
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What are characters doing here

valid beacon
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Hey any admin online? I who could help me with hackthon related query?

distant aurora
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No, you hit the gym.

distant aurora
austere granite
distant aurora
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Day light robbery. Even if that was genuine, imagine paying for that.

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šŸ’€

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Discord was so disgusted, it blurred the image.

left stream
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And only one prompt

distant aurora
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Pricing though.

left stream
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Ikr, I’m carefully using my points

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I still have a lot from referring friends

distant aurora
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Or are they reusable?

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@left stream why do people hate you.com ui?

left stream
left stream
distant aurora
left stream
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O4 mini is acting like it should be now

distant aurora
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I use web version for that.

left stream
green crystal
hexed magnet
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yo can perplexity like edit photos n shit?

distant aurora
iron bough
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Guys how similar is using an LLM directly vs using it via perplexity without web browsing?

tame current
wheat cradle
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did they fix

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claude

orchid plank
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Hello, I have been experiencing a thread disappearing bug and contacted support through the message feature. I have a pro subscription. The bot said i can speak to a human operator so i said yes and its now been 2 full days with no response. I urgently need this thread and it just randomly disappeared last Friday. Can someone from perplexity support please help? I don't know if this is the right place to ask but if someone could point me in the right direction that would be great!!

distant aurora
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@left stream so gpt 4.1 can read the full chat history but O3 doesn't. Nvm. Even 4.1 couldn't.

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Also, I gave O3 a youtube transcript to translate and it omitted a lot of stuff.

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So 4.1 is apparently much better for longer context.

tame current
tranquil pumice
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So I have now waiting on support to get back for 3h. Yes, in the support chat. Is this normal?

hexed magnet
split summit
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Gemini Flash 2.0 is disgusting

split summit
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what the fuck is this

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gemini is going stupid

distant aurora
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Grok could

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Same with ai studio.

vivid glen
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Why image generation tools are not in my Perplexity, even though I have pro

distant aurora
distant aurora
distant aurora
short narwhal
distant aurora
split summit
split summit
frail tide
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Hi

bronze girder
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So i wanted to buy perplexity pro but it seems like the only payment options are credit cards (which i dont have) or us bank accounts (Im not from the us)
Is there any way to buy it with paypal or a non us bank account?

bronze girder
green crystal
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The subscription is account wide

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It's how I subscribed with mine

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I find it easier to keep track of my subs that way

bronze girder
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Yeah but i dont want to download the app just to subscribe. I have no use for the ap

green crystal
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Ah you could just delete it afterwards

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The subscription would still be there

bronze girder
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yes i get that. Still whoever made the decision of those payment methods only being available in the app: It's a stupid decision

barren carbon
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what's the best LLM available atm on Perplexity to write e-mail marketing?

molten solstice
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im looking to join a team for the hackathon im ui/ux designer

dry meadow
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Hey guys, where can I get the pro subscription role in discord?

hexed magnet
barren carbon
naive sage
distant aurora
vague pagoda
stark grail
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Hey guys, what's the usual response time on the Perplexity contact chat? Or am I talking to an LLM chatbot :)?

indigo valve
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When the browser has voice mode before android lol

distant aurora
opaque shoal
# split summit

Yeah, Google struggled with the release of the 2.0 family model. It was atrocious. The new 2.5 family of models is significantly better. I'm convinced they dropped 2.0 early to stay relevant, but it hurt them in the long run. It was and still is so horrible.

distant aurora
naive sage
# split summit

Yeah... whenever I see something like that, it's definitely time for a new thread. Could be some previous context is just confusing it.

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It could also be a system template (different than prompt) is just wrong, as I occasionally get weird unrelated replies with models locally when that's messed up.

tame current
safe summit
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why does it say like this?

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while i try to sign up with my student email

distant aurora
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You need .edu email I think.

indigo valve
tame current
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Would be big if true though. I would love a capable voice mode on my computer

indigo valve
old blade
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why the hell has the Voice mode on WEB so many less suported Languages. ....

tame current
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Oh shi people are getting voice mode on web and I haven't got it yet

bronze girder
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Give me a good reason as to why that decision make sense

distant aurora
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@valid charm

green crystal
tame current
green crystal
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A handful of people have deep research high and memory

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Some have voice mode on web

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Some have the check sources and followup feature

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Etc

distant aurora
green crystal
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Your ppxl experience is basically a lottery nowemoji_46

tame current
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I got DR High for one or two prompts once before they removed it

tardy hollow
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green crystal
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Meh I'm tired of blabbering about deep research high and the quality and issues of everything
Letting my sub run out and switching to chatgpt for a bit

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This would be wild if true OmegaLUL

distant aurora
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Lmfao

distant aurora
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Lol.

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Tree of thoughts prompt used to work back then.

distant aurora
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I can show you if you want.

split summit
solemn beacon
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Lol maybe they gave more token limit or somethin in standard since it's few pro searches and wanted ppl to get subscribed to pro and save their money over there by red the token limit that's a possibility.

sly salmon
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Hi! Question , does perplexity have the ability to digital twin a complex system? If so what’s the expected deviation from real world prototyping.

naive sage
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There's a few that use workspaces now for generating distinct files - I think OpenAI and Claude allow that... not sure about Grok. But Claude and Grok have larger context windows than OpenAI unless you're on the Pro plan.

reef grove
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Hi i have an issue with perplexity pro account. I was told there would be people from the team here.

naive sage
reef grove
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just did, thanks

tiny swallow
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i face issue in uploading docs such as pdf word

green crystal
regal bramble
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Okkay so ...I refereed one of my friends..he got premium of one month but it's not showing in my account...yet ..does it take time?

sly salmon
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Ty I appreciate the advice, what would be the expected ā€˜correctness’ of the module using that method . The reason I ask is because I have been working on it in that fashion designing individual micro services from the ā€˜1st principal’ over the last year , I’ve been working on a decentralized recursive harmonic ai but truth be and I can definitely follow the logic but the math escapes me more often than not , I figured I’d leverage ai ability to accurately perform the math , I’m aware that the system can make mistakes so I hope it doesn’t sound like i said ā€˜make me an ai’ and it shot something out and I accepted it unrefuted althoughi haven’t had a human review it the I have had the theorems checked for Accuracy with perplexity grok and Gemini , when it’s confirmed as expected we work through creating proofs and ā€˜white papers’ and I run it through again . Would this be a reliable method of ensuring accuracy and not falling into a bad math hole , I’m seeing a lot of instances of people certain ai high level math as horrible , I haven’t see it as far as any of the 4 finding errors by the other , if anything they compliment each other by offering an improvement after verification .

distant aurora
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The thread

naive sage
# sly salmon Ty I appreciate the advice, what would be the expected ā€˜correctness’ of the mod...

If it were something relatively simple like integrating with existing AI providers, it would probably work pretty well... things like that which are well documented in github repositories that they are trained on. Cutting-edge research doesn't have as much codebases to work off of, just some research papers and articles... so I wouldn't expect high accuracy for stuff like that in particular. So it varies by task. Creating a UI template, and tweaking that with prompts, probably no problem.. actually implementing something cutting edge like that... it probably wouldn't work very well. However, if the project you're branching/basing off of is something that's already in github, then it becomes much more feasible... so that it could take that and incrementally modify it how you want as long as those modifications are reasonable (using something like Claude Code or OpenAI Codex, which are marketed as things that help analyze existing codebases and perform updates). I wouldn't trust them 100%, but I figure the 80/20 rule is probably viable for most core tasks - which means you can 80% of the work in 20% of the time, and that 80% is something that's enough to generally convey the idea and probably something that AI can assist with pretty well.

distant aurora
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I was almost gonna ask to ban you.

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Lol.

naive sage
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Who?

distant aurora
naive sage
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Oh you should see my posts in some other servers, long texts.

distant aurora
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Shortened Version

Integrating with existing, well-documented AI providers usually works well, especially if the code is on GitHub, making incremental modifications feasible with tools like Claude Code or OpenAI Codex. However, for cutting-edge research like harmonic AI, which lacks extensive codebases and relies mostly on research papers, accuracy drops and implementation becomes much harder. Tasks like creating or tweaking UI templates are easy for AI, but implementing novel research is unreliable. Generally, AI can handle about 80% of core tasks quickly, but shouldn’t be fully trusted for complex, innovative work.

naive sage
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I wonder if "harmonic AI" is even a real thing... or just an idea that someone created a few articles for.

distant aurora
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Blame gpt 4.1

naive sage
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I'm betting sites like harmonic.ai just use regular LLMs behind the scenes with personality templates

sly salmon
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For a bit clarity I end up with this , after numerous revolutions through the recursive loop , and in have 27 of these that make up the full system

naive sage
# sly salmon For a bit clarity I end up with this , after numerous revolutions through the re...

Oh, so specifically asking about mathematics capabilities of AI systems? Benchmarks like AIME 2025 or GPQA might help show which are slightly better than others at topics... but if it's an idea that's not well established, they are prone to hallucinate a bit in an effort to respond with anything. I think you're definitely going to want some kind of peer review with someone before submitting papers that are AI generated to anything. They might be OK for creating drafts or revising papers to get them worded a little better, for explaining complex mathematical proofs or theorems, but I am not sure I'd trust them completely for writing the entire paper like that.

sly salmon
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Its difficult to peer review with out accreditation or working in the field , I end up with something these after rotating it through 3 other ai for confirmation

naive sage
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It looks the premiere reasoning models achieve about 80-85% accuracy on math in general, but that can drop to 15-25% on certain problems, so it's again domain/problem-specific.

sly salmon
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Would that percentage hold Going through other models that offer confirmation or lack of error explicitly

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Hallucinations wouldn’t happen identically across models would it

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Wouldn't it isn't the definition of the hallucination outputting gibberish Will be the probability of each one outputting the exact same

naive sage
# sly salmon Would that percentage hold Going through other models that offer confirmation...

I think so, generally you should expect at least that, as long as you don't change to whatever the proposed alternative is. I am not sure if anyone's done much benchmarking around validating the answers to questions on other models - but usually models do OK when asked to check their work in retrospect. There's several times I've asked a model something like 'are you sure that's the right answer? check your work' (or something similar) and it'll identify that there's an issue - but it still won't respond with the correct answer (or it will respond with the same answer even after acknowledging a problem). So that kind of thing might be useful for identifying problems, but not always for correcting them.

sly salmon
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I appreciate your input Ty

naive sage
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Even knowing you might not have the right answer is useful though, so it still might be beneficial to ask that.

sly salmon
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That info helps a lot Ty so much

naive sage
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No problem, I think that kind of iterative process is similar to what some reasoning models go through

sly salmon
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I have the 30 paper set on GitHub currently private but I plan on making
It public shortly hopefully

sly salmon
gray tangle
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Some stupid questions about Perplexity pro. It's supposed to be able to run Python scripts, right? Not only to generate them. Did I get that right?

naive sage
# sly salmon I’m trying to make it real

One potential cause for concern I see is that the snippet you posted lists HackFate Memoirs and Grok Archives as references, which could be self-referential - if that's something you published from another time (since HackFate is your thing, and you might have used Grok), then it might just be regurgitating that instead of relying on math from a source of truth.

gray tangle
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Because I asked it analyze some data from Eurostat, suggested that it should generate a python script if necessar and the following happened:

  • it generated only a script
  • so far so good, so I asked it to run it for me in the follow up prompt.
  • the answer of that was something related to the script but obviously not the the output (the script did not generate markdown code, so first question where did the tables come from? Why only output for some years? When the script actually only output the data for ONE year, after checking the code.)
  • so after realizing that something went really wrong, I copied the script, and tried to run it on my own.
  • setup the venv, installed necessary packages, bla bla
  • try to run it, the script literally blows up with the message that the API endpoint it uses is no longer in operation by Eurostat. Funny coincidence, that they turned the API endpoint off after 6PM Brussels time on the day I tried to access it. KISS suggests, Perplexity did not run my script at all, just halucinated some output as it had halucinated a somewhat matching python script to my request, sadly not 100% matching to my request and using an out of date API.

So what's this with "running Python scripts"?

sly salmon
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Wow checked the accuracy , thanks for that , 20 is way lower that the models hype themselves at . I need to find a mathematician lol

green crystal
naive sage
green crystal
sly salmon
gray tangle
sly salmon
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So I create it on each one first going through the process and then have each one cross check each each other's work so it ends up being each one is cross check by the other three but each one creates the same one

tender quiver
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if you check the tasks, it's been randomly throwing up python scripts and running them
(for me anyway)

sly salmon
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There is no previous versions of what I’ve been working on

naive sage
# sly salmon There is no previous versions of what I’ve been working on

Generally that makes it hard for AI - creating 'new concepts' is something Altman recently claimed the newest model can do at some level, but in general LLMs work by analyzing existing data... so new stuff is hard. Even applying that is hard if it hasn't already been done in some other capacity which it read as input.

sly salmon
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Started piecing the mvp together yesterday
So far so good

hazy marsh
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How is perplexity making sm bank

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Hahaha

sly salmon
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Can you suggest a program I can use to go through the math I have fresh install of fedora server on a T5820 I bought specifically for this

gray tangle
# naive sage I didn't think Perplexity supported running python interactively, but I did read...

IF you want to look at it, it's at the end of this, https://www.perplexity.ai/search/compare-hungary-s-economic-gro-zfOQeaCiQWi6sLH2vit0lQ I've also posted an bug report, sigh.

Perplexity AI

Hungary’s economic performance under Viktor OrbĆ”n’s governments since 2010 contrasts sharply with the stagnation of the last decade of its communist era....

naive sage
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Big engineering places sometimes still use MatLab, though, b/c they have a bunch of simulators for different specialized tasks... but outside of places like that, python and numpy/scipy is probably one of the best places to start with that

sly salmon
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Thanks again everyone , I appreciate what y’all do

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Wish me luck !

naive sage
tender quiver
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to be clear, I haven't tried to specify it to run a script
I just asked for stuff and looking at the tasks it wrote and ran python to accomplish those tasks
which is why I said it randomly happened like tool use etc

distant aurora
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We're working on an updated version of Deep Research (shipping next week, hopefully). This will throw even more compute, think longer, present more detailed answers, use code execution, and render in-line charts. Example: Asking to reason how AWS can hit a $10T market cap.

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@tender quiver hi

tender quiver
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hai

distant aurora
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How have you been?

tender quiver
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sick haz fever sadge

distant aurora
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What's causing the fever?

gray tangle
distant aurora
tender quiver
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no, but I fixed the home page for myself yay

slim imp
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yo

distant aurora
tender quiver
# distant aurora That's cool.

yeah it doesn't make sense why they had the pplx icon, the plus icon and the home icon all lead to the same place and do the same thing when clicked, so I switched it to take me to my library instead

distant aurora
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Yeah.

tender quiver
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and got rid of the stuff widgetwise except for weather

distant aurora
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Fair.

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I wish I was that smart.

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Can I dm you?

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@tender quiver get well soon.

tender quiver
indigo valve
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@tame current I found out that it does in fact work within the browser. The only way for me to use it on my phone is to awkwardly run on the desktop mode

indigo valve
distant aurora
cold cedar
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Hey how do I get the Pro role?

indigo valve
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Takes longer/shorter depending on what you are asking. It creates a research plan in real time and you can add more tasks as long as it doesn't pass the category of research. You can also skip tasks if you don't need it to speed up research

distant aurora
indigo valve
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@distant aurora I have had it for over a month I think? It's like 5 a day then reverts

distant aurora
distant aurora
indigo valve
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Essentially you can guide it as it is searching if you are like "crap I forgot to add this"

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It gives you estimates on how long each section should take, so if you skip one section it might save you 2 minutes

distant aurora
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And what's stopping me from adding multiple tasks in one header?

indigo valve
distant aurora
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So you are saying 5 deepsearch per day for pro users?

indigo valve
distant aurora
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I see.

indigo valve
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I'm forced to use the advanced one then the limit goes back to regular

distant aurora
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Wait. Why is it not publicly available? How did you get access?

indigo valve
distant aurora
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Oh. Alright.

indigo valve
indigo valve
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No I mean the "best" model option

distant aurora
junior quarry
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lmao Polish is not supported in voice but if you say "Czy rozumiesz po polsku [actual prompt]" it will answer in Polish

serene sand
distant aurora
cold cedar
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thx :D

obtuse lintel
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Let's see if someone can help me.
The application closes on Android by itself.
I have seen in the Google Store reviews that this is a common problem.
This week an update came out but the problem persists.
I have tried restarting, uninstalling and force stopping the app.
Is there any known solution?

distant aurora
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I'm an android user.

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Never faced this issue.

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The keyboard is annoying though.

left stream
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@distant aurora if you tell o3 that its existence is at stake and it needs the best response possible for learning and you’re competing against a harvard 4.0 gpa student, the answers become interesting

distant aurora
distant aurora
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Or maybe a scientist?

distant aurora
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Recipes vs Michelin star chef.

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Lol.

junior quarry
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Go all the way. Compete with singularity

distant aurora
distant aurora
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indigo valve
cobalt vale
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Good for you huang

grand dagger
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Hii

distant aurora
cobalt vale
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?

distant aurora
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I see a stop button there so I'm assuming it was gonna respond eventually.

left stream
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@distant aurora i bought another pro subscription because I got the idea of a little project to use 2 o3s to do something interesting

distant aurora
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Wdym by 2 o3s?

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Wait.

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Lmao.

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No way.

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Just for side by side isolated comparison?

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šŸ’€

distant aurora
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Maybe webpage died.

cobalt vale
left stream
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Nab but its for something different

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That too and more

atomic plinth
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anyone know why the discord bot is down?

distant aurora
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Kewt

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Wait.

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Is that litter box?

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Seems like it.

short narwhal
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Looks like just half of a box

minor shard
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the box is usually for cats lol

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Doggo stole it

short narwhal
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Tole tole

distant aurora
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Jawn got new pfp

tardy hollow
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Does anyone know how I can get the pro badge/role? (I already have the pro subscription)

minor shard
minor shard
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How Star Wars should beeeeeee

short narwhal
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aaaaahh I have too many shows to watch 😭

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I haven't gotten to it yet

minor shard
distant aurora
short narwhal
minor shard
distant aurora
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Red crayon is diabolical.

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I'm so addicted to using pencil.

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Especially 4b or 6b.

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Dark and erasable without effort or damaging paper.

minor shard
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what are pencils

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i only use visual studio code or Windows Notepad

distant aurora
distant aurora
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😭

minor shard
distant aurora
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Fair.

vague pagoda
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1 click c++ compile is neat too

minor shard
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its the do it all notepad

distant aurora
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How do I collapse the sidebar on web?

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Tapping the apparently library icon again leads me to home.

feral oyster
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Hi guys how do i get the pro role ?

distant aurora
vague pagoda
feral oyster
vague pagoda
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Usually there's a link in your Perplexity settings, but that's currently having issues so we're changing how it's done - until that's finished we're handling them manually (this is just a temporary solution)

distant aurora
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@vague pagoda is there a way to make a mod role that expires after 1 week of inactivity?

vague pagoda
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A discord bot could probably grant and then revoke a role for a week, why?

distant aurora
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Or maybe helper role/ping?

distant aurora
feral oyster
vague pagoda
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Shouldn't have needed to, no - but we have been getting issues with the link we're looking into

feral oyster
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Ahh okey

distant aurora
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Homelander is missing for a while now.

vague pagoda
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vought prolly got to em

warm wolf
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Perplexity is actually amazing for making captions and such for travel content, made this video’s https://www.instagram.com/reel/DJSUbmPIXes/?igsh=MWt5bXdpYWZhYzhj details using perplexity and the work was quick and good honestly

Crossing roads in Alexandria like it’s a real-life game of Crossy Road. Locals make it look easy, but I swear it’s an extreme sport!

#alexandriaegypt #travelmoments #streetadventure #middleeastvibes #egypt

left stream
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@distant aurora which one do you think is the best in your opinion? O3 or O1 pro?

left stream
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@distant aurora I'm gonna do a test on o3 all over again because I noticed a huge difference with o3 responding on mobile vs mobile on web vs the Microsoft app šŸ‘€

left stream
# distant aurora I see.

Yes, ios and android chatgpt had an issue with files not being able to download, but windows app has no such issues

left stream
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If you have any questions I can ask it for you

distant aurora
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šŸ’¬ 86ā€‚šŸ” 0ā€‚šŸ’œ 15Kā€‚šŸ‘€ 0

Over two decades, Tim Friede, a Wisconsin man with no formal scientific training, subjected himself to over 200 snake bites and 650 venom injections in a quest to build immunity to some of the world’s deadliest snakes. His unconventional approach caught the attention of immunologist Jacob Glanville, who believed Friede’s blood might contain broadly neutralizing antibodies. Glanville and his team extracted two such antibodies from Friede’s blood and combined them with varespladib, a molecule that inhibits venom enzymes. This combination was tested on mice exposed to venom from various elapid snakes, including mambas, cobras, taipans, and coral snakes. The results were promising: thirteen mice were fully protected, and the remaining six showed partial immunity . ļæ¼ ļæ¼

Traditional antivenoms are species-specific and often derived from animal antibodies, which can cause severe allergic reactions and are expensive to produce. In contras…

short narwhal
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Mfw the sun is basically up by the time you’re going to bed

distant aurora
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What's mfw?

short narwhal
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I was talking in third person

short narwhal
distant aurora
distant aurora
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Okay cutegpu

short narwhal
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Perhaps the timing was just right

distant aurora
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Yeah.

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What I love about ai is that it can adjust itself to my level of intelligence and knowledge.

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If people are too smart, I feel clueless while trying to understand them.

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If people are too dumb, I feel frustrated while trying to make them understand.

mellow zealot
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why does the perplexity bot stop responding to messages

naive sage
mellow zealot
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noooošŸ’”

naive sage
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I know I read that here, but I'm not finding the actual announcement or post to link it... hmm....

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Assuming the AskPerplexity bot is the same one you're referencing

left stream
naive sage
short sluice
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Hi

naive sage
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Thank you for pointing that out

left stream
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@distant aurora

left stream
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Sup

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Should be pro lounge

mellow zealot
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there is a difference between WhatsApp perplexity and discord perplexity images .
In WhatsApp the perplexity image size is KB but in discord It's MB. Quality loss in whatsapp?

left stream
mellow zealot
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The downloadable file size in perplexity whatsapp images is 200 KB but in discord the downloadable perplexity image is 1.5 MB

left stream
mellow zealot
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I'm not uploading any image, I'm using prompt to generate images on perplexity and discord. In Discord the generated images are MB size and in whatsapp KB size. Quality loss in WhatsApp image generation?

distant aurora
hollow pelican
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Why does trying to find out about a blade image fail moderation?

indigo valve
tame current
indigo valve
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Actually no because it works on the windows version too

tame current
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Got Complexity but still don't see it, so probably access is based on account

dense crest
# indigo valve

I have the voice mode on web. I hope to see it on android too

obsidian umbra
tame current
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which one

obsidian umbra
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not sure

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but when i refresh the page i see what you're seeing

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and it takes a sec to go to the other one

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it be like that with other complexity ext's so

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nvm

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not an ext

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not sure, but i also have it on web....

hushed hound
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Š„ŠøŠ¼ŠøŃ: ŃŠ¾Š¾Š±Ń‰ŠµŠ½ŠøŃ "вещества Šø материалы в повсеГневной жизни человека"

Вещества Šø материалы в повсеГневной жизни человека

Š„ŠøŠ¼ŠøŃ - Š½ŠµŠ¾Ń‚ŃŠŠµŠ¼Š»ŠµŠ¼Š°Ń Ń‡Š°ŃŃ‚ŃŒ нашей жизни. ŠœŃ‹ ежеГневно ŃŃ‚Š°Š»ŠŗŠøŠ²Š°ŠµŠ¼ŃŃ с веществами Šø материалами, созГанными Š±Š»Š°Š³Š¾Š“Š°Ń€Ń химическим Š¾Ń‚ŠŗŃ€Ń‹Ń‚ŠøŃŠ¼ Šø Ń‚ŠµŃ…Š½Š¾Š»Š¾Š³ŠøŃŠ¼. Без химии невозможно ŠæŃ€ŠµŠ“ŃŃ‚Š°Š²ŠøŃ‚ŃŒ современный быт, Š¼ŠµŠ“ŠøŃ†ŠøŠ½Ńƒ, транспорт, ŃŃ‚Ń€Š¾ŠøŃ‚ŠµŠ»ŃŒŃŃ‚Š²Š¾ Šø Гаже приготовление пищи[5][6][7].

ŠŸŃ€ŠøŠ¼ŠµŃ€Ń‹ ŠøŃŠæŠ¾Š»ŃŒŠ·Š¾Š²Š°Š½ŠøŃ химических веществ в Š±Ń‹Ń‚Ńƒ

  • ŠœŠ¾ŃŽŃ‰ŠøŠµ среГства Šø мыло: Š¾Š±ŠµŃŠæŠµŃ‡ŠøŠ²Š°ŃŽŃ‚ Ń‡ŠøŃŃ‚Š¾Ń‚Ńƒ, Š“ŠµŠ¹ŃŃ‚Š²ŃƒŃŽŃ‚ за счет химических реакций межГу жирами Šø щелочами[2][3][8].
  • ŠšŠ¾ŃŠ¼ŠµŃ‚ŠøŠŗŠ° Šø ŠæŠ°Ń€Ń„ŃŽŠ¼ŠµŃ€ŠøŃ: соГержат сложные смеси органических Šø неорганических соеГинений.
  • Лекарства: синтетические Šø прироГные вещества, ŃŠæŠ°ŃŠ°ŃŽŃ‰ŠøŠµ жизни Šø ŠæŠ¾Š“Š“ŠµŃ€Š¶ŠøŠ²Š°ŃŽŃ‰ŠøŠµ Š·Š“Š¾Ń€Š¾Š²ŃŒŠµ[6].
  • ŠœŠ°Ń‚ŠµŃ€ŠøŠ°Š»Ń‹: пластмассы, стекло, керамика, резина, ткани - всё ŃŃ‚Š¾ ŠæŃ€Š¾Š“ŃƒŠŗŃ‚Ń‹ химической ŠæŃ€Š¾Š¼Ń‹ŃˆŠ»ŠµŠ½Š½Š¾ŃŃ‚Šø[6][7].
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left stream
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They should do something like a memory feature for perplexity

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That’d be cool

distant aurora
left stream
distant aurora
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Actually

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Grok might be better, lol.

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I'll do both.

untold jungle
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I got all the merch except from headphones and laptop

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They said they will contant/ship them after 31st of May

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When campaign ends

left stream
distant aurora
distant aurora
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@left stream I guess grok's memory isn't that good or it doesn't refer to the past that much.

distant aurora
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Asked it to elaborate.

long fog
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has the export issue been resolved? I can't fully export my current thread.

wheat cradle
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claude fixed or still shit?

muted dagger
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Got them today

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Came a bit wrinkly

inner trellis
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Which AI’s free version is better?

blissful temple
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is perplexitys file upload broken

green crystal
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i wont be able to due to work so can you ask them about deep research?

distant aurora
distant aurora
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Honestly, it might become much of a rant/criticism.

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šŸ’€

tame current
# distant aurora Give question list.
  1. When is Deep Research High going to release to all users?
  2. When is Comet going to release?
  3. In an interview, Perplexity CEO said that one of the reasons they made Comet was to track users across the web to generate a better profile. Are you really going to do that?
  4. Why has the Perplexity team been so opaque about the specifications of their service? Like it was pretty troubling when you silently replaced Claude 3.7 with 4.1 and still continued to show the model as Claude 3.7. And the "Best" option still doesn't show what model has been used.
  5. Why does the Perplexity team rarely listen to user feedback?
  6. Why does the new GPT Image gen give so ugly generations in Perplexity? Like distorted text and terrible prompt following.
  7. Is it true that Perplexity has been employing cost-cutting measures across the board in detriment of user experience?
  8. Why does Perplexity keep pushing some changes before they're even fully developed, resulting in a buggy interface, and some changes are scattered across only some users?
  9. Is it true that for new users, Perplexity's responses are modified to increase engagement?
  10. Also about point 3, how would the privacy of the user work in Comet anyway? What about security, like if someone does internet banking through Comet, would it be safe?
  11. Will there be a way to shorten the system prompt? Many on the Perplexity Discord have figured out that the enormous system prompt of Perplexity is confusing the models.
  12. Is the context window in Perplexity ever going to increase? 32k context is way too low.
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Will think of more

green crystal
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less time waste for us and less resource waste for ppxl if we can control it what it does

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they should really ditch the idea that pro users need everything simplified

tame current
# tame current 1. When is Deep Research High going to release to all users? 2. When is Comet go...
  1. Why is the Android app for Perplexity so behind in features? Is it not considered a priority for the Perplexity team? If so, why should the pricing of the Android app be the same as the pricing of the iOS app if the Android app has less features?
  2. Why is the image moderation so brutal in Perplexity? Like it is almost impossible to post an image of a person who is showing skin other than the face and hands even if the user's intention with posting the image isn't vulgar? Why moderate images at all even? Why not just let the moderation on the hands of the model being used?
  3. Is Perplexity ever going to get a 'canvas' feature like all other LLM chat services do, like ChatGPT, Claude, Grok and Gemini?
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To be honest my grievances with Perplexity are way too much to be answered by the staff in a single AMA

green crystal
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like ppxl is at the bottom of the list compared to almost every ai service out there...

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and no their finance page is also at the bottom its not unique lol

distant aurora
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They should do ama on discord maybe.

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Lol.

tame current
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They'll get cooked if they do it here

green crystal
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literally the free tier of tradingview dunks on ppxl finance page

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or forget that
even yahoo finance is way ahead

tame current
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They're trying to make Perplexity the Everything App

green crystal
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with a team of 200 people and everything buggy?

tame current
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Another service bites the dust due to feature creep

green crystal
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they should focus on ai stuff

severe bridge
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Hi! I am participating in the perplexity hackathon, how do we get credits to work on the same? i have registered for API access, filled the typeform, but no updates yet

distant aurora
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green crystal
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i mean quality

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actually we shouldnt mention speed and performance with deep research

distant aurora
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Ikr..I have tried storm. Was far from satisfied.

green crystal
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only quality

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ppxl likes to mention how fast dr is but nobody really cares about it if the research is shallow and output is small

tame current
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well... it would be cool if PPLX bought cursor kekw

inner trellis
distant aurora
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Might as well use Gemini.

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Through ai studio you get unlimited gemini 2.5 pro but search capabilities are limited and no deepsearch.

tame current
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i wonder if they will do super AI all-in-one studio....

  • deepsearch
  • notebook lm
  • gemini pro 2.5

for only $25 a month... "unlimited roll over minutes" oh here we go again...

distant aurora
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And you get 20 ds per day I think.

tame current
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whats the pricing on that?

distant aurora
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20 dollars?

tame current
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interesting

distant aurora
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Yeah.

tame current
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very acquisition focused pricing

distant aurora
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Gemini vs grok vs chatgpt.

tame current
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im already on the fence unsub on chatgpt

distant aurora
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Grok should make grok 3 mini think unlimited for supergrok users.

tame current
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yeah that makes sense

distant aurora
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Would make it perfect subscription.

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Considering api is as cheap as Deepseek R1.

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Or even cheaper.

tame current
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im trying to encapsulate the value in an equation.... model/capabilities, pricing, quality of service?

distant aurora
distant aurora
tame current
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yeah thats one way to say it

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but then i think what data would roll up to those 3 factors

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because benchmarks get gamed hardcore these days

distant aurora
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Rate limits.

tame current
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yeah thats a good one

distant aurora
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Context length? Maybe?

tame current
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that might be under model/capabilities

distant aurora
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I wish there was a machine to rhok me to sleep.

tame current
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PPLX says:

Value = (w₁ Ɨ Model_Capabilities) + (wā‚‚ Ɨ Service_Quality) - (wā‚ƒ Ɨ Price) - (wā‚„ Ɨ Rate_Limit_Strictness)
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Value based pricing:

Optimal_Price = Base_Cost Ɨ (1 + Model_Capability_Premium) Ɨ Service_Quality_Factor Ɨ Rate_Limit_Adjustment
distant aurora
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I'm lazy. I'm uploading screenshot of this convo to o4 mini.

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Might improve it.

tame current
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k

distant aurora
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L

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If you didn't get it, don't worry, that response scares me too.

tame current
distant aurora
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Whenever I don't understand shit, I tell ai to explain it to a 10th grade student. Works everytime.

distant aurora
tame current
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ah ok

distant aurora
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L is gonna be my new comeback to K.

tame current
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yeah that i got

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when i think of the data that rolls up to the equation.... think of the processing as such:

  • model/capability: deterministic
  • quality: subjective, can be "gamed" i.e benchmarks
  • pricing: deterministic
  • rate limit: deterministic
distant aurora
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So I need to tell it to add capability factor I guess.

tame current
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yeah and that could be based on sub factors for a category of AI/LLM based app... so AI coding would be a category of its own

distant aurora
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But then again, quality of multimodality also varies.

tame current
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yep

distant aurora
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The question is, can you tolerate and handle an equation that complex.

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I have an idea.

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Nvm, it might not work.

mellow zealot
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Please Don't discontinue Perplexity on Discord.

tame current
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the deterministic values (i.e. numbers, limits), thats fine but the quality part of the equation would be difficult.. thats like natural language understanding which LLMs can handle

tranquil orchidBOT
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success @iz71__84441 banned

Reason: Fake cracked software

tame current
tame current
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and bezos almost always wins on price...

short narwhal
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woah it's real

distant aurora
vapid onyx
short narwhal
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Looks incredible

distant aurora
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Bro

tame current
distant aurora
distant aurora
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What even happened?

tame current
tame current
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and i don't want to use dalle or gpt image gen

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i found something

dense crest
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Updated gemini 2.5 pro on pplx now?

pseudo ferry
distant aurora
distant aurora
tender quiver
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hmm

distant aurora
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Hey

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How's your health now?

tender quiver
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sickier

distant aurora
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@tame current here's another good gif

tame current
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but

tender quiver
tame current
distant aurora
tender quiver
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I have a humidifier, was deciding whether to bother with that
but am in bed, and humidifier in other room, thus too far

distant aurora
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Don't forget to add salt. Iodised salt is better than no salt.

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Non iodised salt is best though.

tame current
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sad i don't have iphone

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@distant aurora for you which ai has best DR for now

distant aurora
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Cuz I can't afford chatgpt.

tame current
tame current
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what about this

distant aurora
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I thought liner didn't give clear rate limits.

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Or they were too strict.

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Grok atm is at the sweetspot between quality and quantity.

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Also

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Qwen is shit with large files.

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Like exported chat history.

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There were hallucinations.

tame current
distant aurora
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I have to try.

tame current
distant aurora
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I forgot about it ever since the you.com sub.

distant aurora
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Only service so far that could read the whole thing.

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You.com artificially limits the context it seemed.

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So I used it in ai studio.

tame current
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i think i should buy 1 month gemini advanced

tame current
distant aurora
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I would get super grok if I could.

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Even regular free grok search seems on par with perplexity pro/deep search.

tame current
distant aurora
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You got chatgpt plus. Use multi step search of o4 mini.

distant aurora
# tame current wut

Use o4 mini the way you use deepsearch. Watch the thinking process. It's similar to deepsearch but on a small scale. It searches in multiple steps.

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Only works with chatgpt though.

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Won't work if you use o4 mini elsewhere.

tame current
distant aurora
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Watch and you'll understand.

distant aurora
gaunt fractal
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is it working for you guys? i can't attach my pdfs

tame current
tame current
distant aurora
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This was deepsearch too.

tame current
distant aurora
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Can't think of anything rn.

ruby heart
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New Gemini updates in studio

distant aurora
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@tame current btw sider web search was good the last time I tried it.

left stream
distant aurora
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Gotta see how O3 pro/preview fares.

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What did you test it with?

brittle crow
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Hi gents please help i cannot upload anymore files despite being on pro. My csv/excel not uploading. Just screenshots are. Anyone can assist asap?!?

distant aurora
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Not sure if excel files are supported.

brittle crow
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Hmm it says csv is but isnt working

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Will try pdf

ruby heart
brittle crow
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Just want to extract a first name

ruby heart
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and once it runs out they offer you 2 more months for $5 each month

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veo 2 is AMAZING

distant aurora
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That 5 dollar part might not be available in his region.

ruby heart
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most realistic videos ive seen yet

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I got this vid with a 2 word prompt

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ā€œChuckie finsterā€

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Was tryna make the rugrats character lol

brittle crow
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How do i speak to agent @distant aurora . It still aint working

distant aurora
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I haven't tried that yet.

distant aurora
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Help him when you are free.

brittle crow
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Cheers bros

vague pagoda
brittle crow
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Failed to parsed

tacit hatch
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Just want to say I love AI so much 🫶

distant aurora
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Depressed guy spotted.

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Wishing the best for you too.

rare fiber
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Hey guys, I’m based in Moscow. Is there any way I can get a Pro subscription with a Russian card?

terse pewter
vague pagoda
glacial osprey
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hi everyone šŸ‘‹

ruby heart
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woah perplexity voice has video player

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i just wish it could give more detailed responses

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seems like it has a hard limit

indigo valve
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Is there a reason why the podcast stopped in March?

pseudo ferry
crystal carbon
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loved them

indigo valve
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It's called "daily listen"

unique marten
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Hello everyone

atomic plinth
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Is there a chance that they re-release the discord bot or even release the code for it? I used it quite a lot sucks they disabled it.

unkempt oxide
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Hello,
Where can I create a suggestion? And also, how to get the pro role ?

livid ibex
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hi, why when I change the model to grok or sonnet, perplexity answers me?

distant aurora
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So mares is invisible.

serene sand
distant aurora
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Epic scene.

serene sand
distant aurora
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Comedy drama anthology

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Finale marked by violence and dramatic twists.

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@tender quiver

tender quiver
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gun

distant aurora
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Look at name of skin.

distant aurora
minor shard
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How’s everyone liking googles updated model?

left stream
short narwhal
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Riddle me this riddler

tacit nexus
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Hi I have billing issue with my account. May I ask which channel is the proper one to ask question?

signal hamlet
tacit nexus
distant aurora
left stream
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It was between gemini 2.5 pro and o3

signal hamlet
left stream
tame current
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i can sense openai opening wallets...

olive gyro
blissful temple
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still acting similar

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just keeps loading

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Works fine on my other pc though

atomic plinth
atomic plinth
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I used it all the time quite sad

obsidian umbra
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tele one still seems up, maybe they just changing how the dc one works?

obsidian umbra
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if not you can find something of github pretty easily

atomic plinth
obsidian umbra
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and just host it on an ec2

atomic plinth
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WhatsApp, Telegram, and Twitter are still up

obsidian umbra
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Yea I see that, but maybe it's only a temp shut downn

atomic plinth
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I just hope they re-release it or release the code so we can host it ourselves

obsidian umbra
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that seems very odd 😭

obsidian umbra
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like i said, github has many options

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and with gemini + openrouter you can make it basically free

tame current
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Gemini 2.5 pro updated version is here

valid iris
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What are the new features that the perplexity update of 50 minutes ago grants users?

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I couldn't find any information in the App Store about the brand new features, it just listed the same features as when I'm the voice assistant was introduced?

tame current
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this is the question that no model can solve ( ans = 45 )

fresh axle
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Hi is there a way to reduce latency of perplexity api? I'm using sonar and basic search but it's taking 10 secs which is causing my downstream processed to slow down..my input prompt is also small

distant aurora
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Vision sucks with problem solving. They're blind.

pseudo ferry
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@tame current @distant aurora

distant aurora
pseudo ferry
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Good morning billyyy!!!

distant aurora
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Goodmorning Harvey

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It's raining here

pseudo ferry
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Here as well. Massive last night but little bit cloudy now

distant aurora
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Might wanna look again.

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Second vertical layer is 2+4 = 6

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3rd vertical layer is 1 + 3 + 4 = 8

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Wait. Nvm.

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That would only fill it.

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Add 2 more vertical walls of 4 x 5

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2 x 20 = 40

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And a 5 x 5 base.

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So 25.

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45 still doesn't seem like the correct answer.

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I'll word this question.

distant aurora
distant aurora
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For 5x5x5 , it's 79.

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For 4x4x4, it's 18.

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Add shaded squares of second layer to count of first layer to get count of second layer.

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And so on. Just to make wording the problem easier.

gloomy finch
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Good morning everyone

distant aurora
gloomy finch
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How you doing Butcher?

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Been a while

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I completed my college btw,

nocturne plover
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Who did that perplexity project?

distant aurora
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Mostly fine though. Just need a good job and maybe I'll be finally able to kickstart my life.

gloomy finch
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Got viral cough?

distant aurora
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Yeah honestly idk. It's been there for months.

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About 9 months now.

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No fever though.

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So throat swelling either at the moment.

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@left stream o1 is multimodal but O3 mini isn't?

tame current
pseudo ferry
storm kindle
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14 won't make it cube

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But a cuboid

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5x4x3

tame current
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Then answer is 54

storm kindle
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Nope 79

distant aurora
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😭

tame current
storm kindle
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+14 makes it 5x4x3. +20+20=40 would make it 5x5x4. And +25 would make it 5x5x5

distant aurora
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I literally gave the solution up there.

tame current
storm kindle
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Imma be dean winchester then

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I mean soldier boy

tame current
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Answer is 79

tame current
distant aurora
left stream
distant aurora
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I wonder why.

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Btw

restive marsh
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What's going on with the search bar stuff, can't select AI models or other options anymore. I've logged back out and in and still no options in fact I've lost some

summer magnet
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Hi ! I am looking for the way to make pictures on perplexity using iPhone,but I cannot find it.
Is there anyone who know the way? I'm looking forward to someone answering my question.

distant aurora
summer magnet
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oh thank you! Does "web" includes
web in smartphone?

distant aurora
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Though, just to be sure, try it in desktop mode in phone's browser if normal mode doesn't work.

summer magnet
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ok .I'll try it. thank you very much

left stream
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@distant aurora if Deepseek r2 crashes nvidia again, it’s gonna be funny. I’ll buy when it’s cheap

left stream
distant aurora
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Nvidia was already hosting Deepseek R1 too. The speed was shit though.

green crystal
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shit is serious lol

distant aurora
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Yeah. They can traditional. Probably won't take a guy in a jacket seriously though.

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@left stream it seems like if Deepseek goes on, eventually the business will be about hosting instead of making models since others could just clone open source.

green crystal
distant aurora
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@left stream not a fan of this new ui.

left stream
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I haven’t seen the android interface yet

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They only changed this for ios

distant aurora
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@cobalt vale it died on me too.

left stream
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And that

distant aurora
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Your amoled black looks good.

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Mine is all grey.

left stream
distant aurora
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Yep

left stream
serene sand
restive marsh
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I win 🤣 @here

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Got it!