💬│general

[versed plaza]

Don't go lower than 4K versions because it just starts getting glitchy

[golden dew]

Whats the software that you run?

[versed plaza]

You could also run smaller models at their full size but once you get up to like the bigger models like 72b or 1 2 3 then it's like using claude

Msty I would link it but I don't feel like that's classy

[golden dew]

Okay. I'm going to need a tutorial on this

[versed plaza]

Well that's the point it it's simple enough that you can kind of poke around and learn at your own pace

But if you need help learning the interface perplexity can help explain it

[golden dew]

Hmm

[versed plaza]

Most of the annoying stuff that will make you pull your hair out it simplifies

There are more advanced front ends for local AI but that one is all in one and it's simple click and install and ready to download models

[golden dew]

Okay. I'll look into misty

[versed plaza]

Just remember if you're downloading new models you're going to want to look for some that are in between probably 16 and 20 gigs total size and don't go below 4K quantization

That's the difference between your computer crashing or things being super slow. Also keep the output tokens low like 300 took me weeks to figure that out

you want to keep like 20 or 30% of the 24 gigs free for its memory so get the biggest ones while leaving about 4-8 GB of your graphics card

[golden dew]

So are you just feeding these models information?

[versed plaza]

Yes lots of it

[golden dew]

Whats the purpose?

Okay

[versed plaza]

Since it's local I basically told it everything about my life

I've done all sorts of weird projects it's wild how good it works

I just have a RTX 4070

[golden dew]

To be able to give you suggestions for improvement?

Or just information about your life for it to learn?

[versed plaza]

They can give you like suggestions of like what to make in your house whether your chicken salad went bad it can help you get a job it can help you get through your life problems yeah all sorts of crap

And it's not a Google's business

[golden dew]

Even through images?

[versed plaza]

I think that it does have an image uploading feature

[golden dew]

Okay

[versed plaza]

But you would need to find a front end like silly tavern that has flux integration so it can generate pictures if that's what you're wanting to do but I'm working on that one for my own ideas

I would not suggest messing with silly tavern

It took me a year just to figure out the menus

And by year I mean yesterday

[golden dew]

Since we're cooking up ideas. I'm thinking of a personalized agent that can help with a multitude of things

[versed plaza]

Let me show you my idea

[golden dew]

But seems like you are on track

[versed plaza]

It's a few steps past that

[tame current]

can i use complexity on mobile?

the superior app/extension

[hidden rapids]

I don’t get why perplexity in mobile phone is far less detail and informative then on laptop, or desktop

[barren saddle]

Opus has been removed?

[halcyon coral]

Hey @barren saddle!
That's right Opus has been removed as Perplexity always stays up to date with the best LLMs. Currently the best models from Anthropic, Claude 3.5 Sonnet and Haiku are available.

[oak burrow]

hello

[lament grotto]

Hi 👋

[oak burrow]

i have a problem with a api key i dont know where to find it. I Dont understand what he wants

[lament grotto]

Sorry but idk how maybe ask it in #⚡│ask-community

[oak burrow]

Thank you!

[lament grotto]

No problem!

[azure ingot]

Is anyone else having this weird issue with Perplexity today? After the model completes its response, the stop button icon stays visible but doesn't work when clicked. Can't send any new messages either - have to refresh the page every single time to ask another question. It's happening with every query for me. Anyone else experiencing this?

[harsh verge]

To generate an API key, you need to go to 'settings/API.'

[oak burrow]

ive got to pay right?

[harsh verge]

With Perplexity Pro, you get $5 monthly to use on pplx-api.

[oak burrow]

yeah i cant get an api using the free version right?

Thank you 🙏

[wooden pagoda]

Hi

[plain zenith]

Do any of you use nextcloud or owncloud? I'm currently on proton drive, I'm thinking of switching, is it worth it? I don't have another device, server or home internet capability. 1 laptop, phone with mobile internet and I'm not permanently housed.

[zealous kayak]

I mean, nextcloud is self-hosted, which is basically the whole point

from what you describe, you want the exact opposite, lol

proton drive is probably way better for you

I use nextcloud for some stuff, but only because I have a server at home

[tight prism]

Claude 3 Opus too old and too expensive

Claude 3.5 opus coming soon this November

[tight prism]

Will this month we will get Claude 3.5 opus?

[tight prism]

Your profile perplexity, click the word api, it generates api button and copy it and key in your api key that shows in your picture

[runic lava]

I don't see the API keys pop up, I think it's because my payment is via mobile and not direct maybe?

[tight prism]

$5 api is free for pro users, go to the website at your profile, click the api and click the generated api to get the key

Please note free for $5 you need to inform @signal hamlet to get it otherwise you can’t use the api

[runic lava]

yeah it's not on there it's prompting me for a CC

[tight prism]

https://www.perplexity.ai/settings/api

[runic lava]

yeah that's where I'm at

probs just a bug ig

[zealous kayak]

add it to the pile lmao

[mystic rune]

perplexity supports pdf with how many words per file without losing context?

[devout sonnet]

Does anyone know if there are any other services that are like Perplexity with Opus? I ended up canceling my subscription today since all the other models are pretty crappy compared to Opus. I don't get why I'd pay for it without Opus if CoPilot lets me do the same thing for free.

[jade breach]

Perplexity stopped usijg one of the models, when I checked it jusy wasn’t using one

[valid yoke]

Doesn’t it annoy anyone else on iOS that the app doesn’t open links if your browser?

Or do you just all use Safari?

Even if I used Safari, I think it would annoy me that links I open don’t appear in my history

[plain patio]

Anyone else having issues loadiing perplexity?

[summer halo]

i cant

[hexed sapphire]

yea
idk why when I open a thread it says: "This Thread does not exist"

[kind shoal]

new recent bug

[zealous kayak]

because we've had this bug for 5 days where threads become inaccessible when they're too long

and it's literally making it unusable

[kind shoal]

now , whole website is broken

[tribal spoke]

Having issue pulling up my spaces and logging in

[zealous kayak]

but it's still not fixed

[zealous kayak]

oh fantastic

[summer halo]

good work

[hexed sapphire]

somehow like this

[tame current]

MY PERPLEXITY CRASHED 😭😭😭😭😭😭

[zealous kayak]

hopefully they're pushing an update or something

[tame current]

SAMEEEEE

[chrome swan]

Well im glad im not the only one getting issues.

[kind shoal]

'Hopefully'

[brazen marlin]

downnnn

[hexed sapphire]

i think mb they are updating
so cannot access

[tame current]

yeah it said updated website

[zealous kayak]

https://status.perplexity.com/
lol

[chrome swan]

Keep getting access denied with logging in through Google.

[tame current]

amd then it sid this

and then it said this*

[minor shard]

They prolly have to manually update it

[zealous kayak]

hey you never know
could be a new bug instead

[plain patio]

Hopefully bringing Opus back

[versed plaza]

Is the site down

[zealous kayak]

nothing would surprise me anymore

[kind shoal]

raise of AI XD

[versed plaza]

I thought I was just going crazy for 10 minutes as it forgot a 6-hour long project conversation and then remembered it again 20 minutes later

[tame current]

the android app doesnt work either

[minor shard]

For a company that is very AI centric they are not very proactive

[chrome swan]

Sure would be cool if the Admin's would say something.

[plain patio]

Update workflow:

• Turn off server
• Take out old hard drive
• Put new HD in with update
• Turn on server

[zealous kayak]

I mean normally they'd pop up a "Maintenance ongoing" page

they've done it before

[versed plaza]

This is why I have a local secondary

Msty

[hexed sapphire]

i guess the whole perplexity somehow having bug now

[cyan socket]

we just got perplexitied

[versed plaza]

It's the New York times ddosing them

[minor shard]

LOL

war has begun

[kind shoal]

past week got stability issue problem you can visit bug-reports #1140622008086970420 for all the fun

[cyan socket]

literally no website AI ever making this website more bug than perplexity

[versed plaza]

404 page should just say are you not perplexed?

[kind shoal]

may be it is human error 😄

[hexed sapphire]

Someone is posting stuff there now :|

[stark delta]

Was studying for an exam and forgot to take ss 🙂

[sleek topaz]

the AI became sentient and realized taking itself down was the best option to preserve mankind

[cyan socket]

@signal hamlet cmon man any news?

[versed plaza]

I bet they're updating spaces

[viral hedge]

I got the info that it's updated to the latest version but I'm now free user and there is no library ...

Not the only one?

[unique gate]

same here

[chrome swan]

If they are updating now this is such a bad practice, do not release something on monday

[west reef]

down?

[modest osprey]

same here

[zealous kayak]

dude monday is WAY better than friday like last time lmao

[livid aurora]

its down

[versed plaza]

It told me I lost 6 hours worth of project that it does not exist freaked me out

[zealous kayak]

at least they'll be in to fix any problems

[livid aurora]

its not working

[chrome swan]

very fair. both days suck. lol

[valid iris]

I got this after trying to sign in on the web just so you know, I downloaded X search and set perplexity as my default search engine and now I cannot log into perplexity through Safari however, my PWA version of perplexity which is running through the Safari browser it works just fine, but using the actual Safari app, I am not able to login to your perplexityI have disabled all ad blocking and tracking and this is still the case. I even used Apple sign in and it didn’t work and I am trying to type in the Apple relay email manually and I am still not getting a sign in code.

[lethal sphinx]

[minor shard]

Deployment issue

[worn zenith]

Prayer circle for them to not blindside us anymore 🙏

[fair void]

sorry, i have a problem. is down the system from desktop? thanks

[minor shard]

https://x.com/aravsrinivas/status/1856039331678269478?s=46

Aravind Srinivas (@AravSrinivas) on X

It was a deployment issue. We’re reverting back. Sorry. Will be up and running very very shortly.

Twitter · Nov 11, 2024, 6:20 PM

[livid aurora]

[minor shard]

[lethal sphinx]

[hushed plaza]

MAAAN

[chrome swan]

They need an API to send these updates to the discord.

[zealous kayak]

Spaghetti aaaah codebase

[minor shard]

THISSSS

[livid aurora]

https://tenor.com/view/when-server-down-iceeramen-monkey-gif-23229726

[humble summit]

its over

[ember forge]

Perplexity is down

[humble summit]

I just started doing my assignments for the university

💀

[kind shoal]

that is how discord chat should be XD

[turbid inlet]

Servers are down? I cannot log in

[kind shoal]

why i'm enjoying the situation ...

[warped hawk]

GO_sad~1

I joined just to complain

[worn zenith]

There's to hoping this is them in the process of fixing the bugs

[chrome swan]

Deployment issue. annoying but happens.

[worn zenith]

We're lonely

[kind shoal]

welcome to the club

[deft oxide]

also joined to complain

[chrome swan]

just wish there would have been more communication from the perplexity team honestly.

[wicked wind]

[tame current]

sad times

[cyan socket]

they are really bad at communicate to the community

[worn zenith]

This is their biggest problem imo

[halcyon coral]

Hi everyone, please be patient.
Pplx will be up and running soon 🙏

[timber cypress]

reached our capacity is such a funny way to put it. like waht do you mean, you are the capacity

[worn helm]

Haha yes!

[kind shoal]

web3 is not real .... so ... hahaha

[humble summit]

yeah sure

[chrome swan]

i mean would have been more patient if you guys would have chimed in sooner honestly.

[swift gyro]

same

[hushed plaza]

my assignement due in 30m ☠️

[livid aurora]

https://tenor.com/view/bye-bye-gif-11441473103925830959

[warped hawk]

pplx, create a bot that tells if you are down 👀

[stark delta]

Website is up

[warped hawk]

hop to chatgpt 🙏

[main shard]

Hi

[humble summit]

we are so back

[devout sonnet]

They went down right as I canceled my subscription? This is poetic.

[kind shoal]

cluade !!

[swift gyro]

its back gg

[unique gate]

https://tenor.com/view/weareback-wereback-wearebackbaby-hangover-the-gif-18475016

[valid iris]

It still seems to be working for me right now

[swift gyro]

time to write a case study

[worn zenith]

I love spam

[timber cypress]

chat are we back

[valid iris]

But I still can’t log in through the safari app

[swift gyro]

🫡

[livid aurora]

they are cooking

[warped hawk]

Was this a promotion tactic to make us join the discord

[polar aurora]

YOU did this lol

[river bronze]

Waiting

[minor shard]

[river bronze]

Not buying pro again

[worn zenith]

WHAT HAVE YOU DONE

[worn helm]

Don't know if it's a happy moment for Perplexity - they maxxed out their use frequency, or if it's a technical issue

[swift gyro]

got me haha

[kind shoal]

ok, that was quick fix , good job

[warped hawk]

Works tho

gl on yall assignments

[kind shoal]

don't forget to fix another bugs too ...

[worn zenith]

Good luck fwends

[warped hawk]

There are no bugs, just extra features with a bit of spice

[devout sonnet]

I'm going to take this opportunity to ask if anyone has an alternative with Opus support

[minor shard]

[timber cypress]

yeah but don't tell us you have a capacity that gets reached if we ask too many questions, we are supposed to believe you can handle anything. just say technical issues sorry we'll be back shortly or whatever

[kind shoal]

gl you got 25 mins !

[ember forge]

Its back 😄

[kind shoal]

and chat become lonley again , they all back to their space

[warped hawk]

it is what it is

chat with pplx

[kind shoal]

you guys will be missed

[warped hawk]

APepeLeave

[kind shoal]

🤘🏼

[ember forge]

People lost there friend for few mins

but dont worry, your friends (AI models) are back.

[devout sonnet]

Im going to use perplexity to search for an alternative to perplexity, but with opus.

cya all

[ember forge]

chathub has opus.

[devout sonnet]

but does it work as well

[ember forge]

It works yeah ofc

[devout sonnet]

I tried You.com, but I had to request a refund to Apple since they took my money and I didn't get my subscription

[ember forge]

You get free trial on chathub, feel free to try.

[devout sonnet]

I wish ClaudeAI had native web support

Ill look into Chathub. Thanks

[ember forge]

Check your DM,

[kind shoal]

ok, back to my space ! have a nice day

[ember forge]

Epic combo

[devout sonnet]

I just need Opus. Everything else is crap

[ember forge]

Sure it has it, feel free to check it.

[ember forge]

also offers o1 mini so yeah.

Best models

[ember forge]

and it also has Perplexity Sonar if you would miss it 😂

Fast enough solved 😄

[ember forge]

You use Opus for writing?

[real coral]

Did you have any luck with changing your email?

[devout sonnet]

Nope.

[ember forge]

Ah whats your use?

[devout sonnet]

Mostly for 10-Q and 10-K research

[zealous kayak]

...is the PPLX CEO unironically shilling on twitter to the new presidency?

good LORD.

there's low and then there's whatever this is

[ember forge]

Why not provide for your country? And Perplexity has the money to do it.

[ember forge]

They basicly did it to the normal people too, with the voucher/coupons for 1 year free...

[zealous kayak]

making an offer in private is one thing
publicly at-ing them is just tacky

[ember forge]

It stays a company, it shows its providing.

[brittle jungle]

Hello everyone, may I ask question regarding subscription here? Or is it against rules

[inland estuary]

Hello, my thread has disappeared with all of my many threads. please assist me in how this happened and how I get them back

[young niche]

give me my threads back pls, its been days now

not even using perplexity anymore

[zealous kayak]

whoever it was had the bright idea of pushing whatever change caused it on a friday, so it's been days but it happened over the weekend

I'm hoping the botched update they had to roll back was meant to fix this issue

just... gotta wait for them to actually push it again.

[young niche]

They don't address problem either

[zealous kayak]

they reverted it

like they tried updating the site
it failed
they rolled it back

I just hope it's fixed like
very bloody soon

because it's extremely frustrating

[timber cypress]

high quality answers, something republicans truly care about

[halcyon coral]

Hey! Sure, it's allowed 🙂

[tight prism]

https://perplexity.ai/pro?referral_code=TQRFFK3J

$10 off subscription

[timber yacht]

The coding sync session is running now. Feel free to DM if you want to join. We work on independent projects, 30-40min sprints, 5-7 syncs and mentoring in between. 100% free, no ads. That helps me to stay focused on my own deliveries.

[junior adder]

thread "updated to the new version" by itself mid-using it and now i can't see A LOT of my last messages

[ancient sleet]

can anyone confirm if the "thread does not exist" error is still persisting for you all? I just refreshed and tried accessing an old thread that was affected by this and it finally loaded and I can see and continue that thread. Don't know if this will be permanent or if I just go lucky.

[zealous kayak]

They ""Fixed"" it

except NOW IT DOESN'T SHOW YOUR RECENT MESSAGES.

[ancient sleet]

oh brilliant, okay

[zealous kayak]

you can easily see this by asking a follow up question (in a thread that was long enough to cause the bug)

reload

it will be gone

before it used to hide old messages in the convo if it got too long
now it's hiding new ones.

brilliant.

just absolutely smashing work guys

[junior adder]

I hate that there's still no news on fixing it and if they ever will fix it (just like scrolling to the end button in the mobile version is inexistent)

[zealous kayak]

I'm pretty sure the timeline is something like this:

• Originally, once the conversation was long enough, it would start hiding old messages
• They release an update to try and fix it
• Leads to threads not being accessible anymore, lasts over the entire weekend because they pushed it on a friday for some reason
• They fix the threads being inaccessible, but now the original bug is flipped - now NEW messages are hidden, which is even worse!

I think the devs could probably do with being introduced to a crazy new concept called testing (and not in prod)

[junior adder]

correct. My new thread got bamboozled too. Can't even use perplexity properly thanks to inexistent support and devs ❤️

[zealous kayak]

and the "every model becomes 4o" bug is still not fixed

[zealous kayak]

yeah, like
this is quite possibly the worst support/experience I've ever seen lmao

how do you mess up this bad multiple times in a row, and take weeks to fix it

[tired fractal]

this is what happens when you don't rely on your customers for your income but investors. however the bubble will burst eventually, and when it does, it'll be a dog-eating-dog world where everyone will fight for the customers. for now, they can afford to piss in our ear and tell us is raining

I, however will remember when that day comes and where my money will go

[livid mantle]

seek peace in the storms beyond your control focus instead on what you can shape within

[tame current]

a good morning

안⃛녕⃛

[tired fractal]

https://tenor.com/view/doctorevil-no-gif-22331678

[plain patio]

You are wrong. Sonnet 3.5 is their MOST ADVANCED... BEST MODEL, MOST SMART EVER. Clearly your problems are user error

[real blaze]

"We have testers, they are the end users"

[dapper cape]

Anyone have any decent prompts for a Pitch Deck review?

[molten blaze]

"adopt the persona of an experienced investor in this industry. Share all the feedback, questions, praise and critiques they would offer upon reviewing this deck. With each question and critique, provide an ideal prompt to get/create the information to address that."

How many o1 searches do we get a month?

[dapper cape]

Thanks @molten blaze

[scarlet salmon]

will there be any black friday sales for perplexity?

[remote cipher]

Hii

[hoary grove]

hello pepoll

[quartz nova]

i think pplx might be having service issues again

[jade breach]

I am

[tame current]

ohmo

why does the problem occur when i use it

[glad otter]

Is Perplexity down? It had a log out issue and on all my browsers it logged out

[tame current]

yeah

the same thing happed around 9 and half hours ago

happened*

but got fixed

[glad otter]

Who is admin here ?

[tame current]

i suggest dont tag them

it will likely resolve in some minutes or so

[glad otter]

Yeh it had an issue lol

[worn zenith]

I might've lost my thread rip

[tame current]

nah dont worry

[tame current]

oop

[tame current]

it will be back hopefully

same thing happened some time ago

[gaunt rose]

perplexity down?

[rigid kestrel]

seems

[tame current]

seems like it

[rigid kestrel]

it is showing me as a freeloader

[vast kernel]

Same was real confused

[lunar forum]

I can't load my threads lol

[tired igloo]

the app is broken at the most crucial moment in my life

[quartz nova]

Its funny when things go down to realize how dependent you’ve become on them and how your usage of tech has changed… it used to be outlook/o365 or gmail would go down and no one could get any work done but now im like im set for work as long as pplx is gtg

[tranquil barn]

Seems it's working now

[kind gyro]

Is the website down?

[warm cargo]

oh thank god i was ready to jump off a bridge

[kind gyro]

goated

[bleak hull]

Maybe not

[tame current]

so true

[tame current]

it is

[bleak hull]

There is no response at all

Nvm

Have to restart app

[vestal forum]

In the new version, it seems that o1-mini is gone???

Anyone same??

[bleak hull]

That does exist?

[vestal forum]

Yes, we can choose the type like web,Academic. In the last version, we can choose the logic (o1-mini)

[tame current]

yeah reasoning is long gone

[dire locust]

I don't think the o1-mini for me is better than Claude 3.5 sonnet

[tame current]

us

it yaps too much

[lilac wasp]

shoot so o1 isnt an option anymore?

it was super helpful with math proofs

[worldly trout]

o1 mini yaps more I think, but you can just tell it to be more concise.

[ember forge]

With complexity you can use it.

[lilac wasp]

thank you so much, you're a life saver

[ember forge]

Yw

[ember forge]

Chathub is also here if u need opus.

[lilac wasp]

out of curiousity, is opus better for any particular task?

[livid mantle]

be prepared to lose what you lean on for nothing outside your control is truly yours

[ember forge]

Writing and such.

[ember forge]

Then yes

[ember forge]

Nobody stops you from getting a own workspace machine, and run local LLM, which web search LLM.

[lilac wasp]

ahh okay interesting, thank you for the tip!

[ember forge]

Your welcome, its not in perplexity anymore sadly.

[lilac wasp]

Rip 🥲

[upbeat flower]

So I got pro for free because of revolut, but for what can I use perplexity? what makes it different

[serene sand]

deep dive ➤ #💬│general message

[zealous kayak]

I sure hope the hidden messages bug is fixed soon

makes past threads unusable

[upbeat flower]

So, its a tool to get more accurate information more quickly with the help of AI/

So you can use it to get more references for example

[livid mantle]

##  Top LLMs (Overall) 

| Rank | Model | Score |
|---|---|---|
| 1 | ChatGPT-4o-latest (2024-09-03) | 1340 | 
| 2 | o1-preview | 1334 | 
| 3 | o1-mini | 1308 | 
| 4 | Gemini-1.5-Pro-002 | 1301 |
| 5 | Grok-2-08-13 | 1290 |
| 6 | Yi-Lightning | 1287 |
| 7 | GPT-4o-2024-05-13 | 1285 |
| 8 | Claude 3.5 Sonnet (20241022) | 1283 | 
| 9 | GLM-4-Plus | 1275 | 
| 10 | GPT-4o-mini-2024-07-18 | 1273 | 

[zealous kayak]

claude 3.5 behind that many other models

lol

[obsidian crystal]

Llama not even in the top 10s… Why are source-available/open-source models falling behind?

Yi-Lightning is open-source though? (Never heard of it before)

[livid mantle]

i had a lot of hopes for the nvidia lama one

[obsidian crystal]

o1 is still my favorite.

[livid mantle]

yes same o1

Orion will dominate all.

[livid mantle]

are you a big fan of o1 too

are you one of us

I love Perplexity.ai, I love everything about Perplexity.ai, the idea of the website and its features. But what I don't like about it is when they degrade the api's for eco mode reasons or rather to cut on costs which feels like every ai model on perplexity is like GPT-3.

[obsidian crystal]

Unrelated though, but I've noticed that LLMs are really bad at writing stories…

[zealous kayak]

I'm not, I think o1 is mid

way too expensive for what it can provide

sure, it's good at SOME very niche applications like math

but it's not better at coding than any other model

[obsidian crystal]

this, especially algorithms

[livid mantle]

You fool, you are in the palyground paying $29,000 just to use o1!?

[zealous kayak]

nah, I'm just looking at it from an objective standpoint

I don't need o1 for what I do

so I just don't use it

[obsidian crystal]

Which LLM is best at reading assembly code?

[livid mantle]

If you ask me ||o1||.

[zealous kayak]

anyway, I think the concept behind o1 is interesting, but it needed like, an extra year to cook or something

[livid mantle]

Orion will fill your expectations.

[zealous kayak]

what we got is very underbaked, 10+x more expensive than other models for very little gain

[livid mantle]

Sorry for the inconvenience luigi.

[zealous kayak]

we'll see
I do not believe in Altman's hype ride

[obsidian crystal]

>o1's the best, still not (anything like it) on Perplexity

[livid mantle]

We love o1!

[zealous kayak]

I think the future is in models like sonnet 3.5

or at the very least of its size

[livid mantle]

I don't trust the o1 in PPLX lab, that's just me.

[zealous kayak]

reasoning models like o1 are more of a limited application

very good at SOME things, probably like, agent stuff in the future once it's more polished

but as is, not very useful

[obsidian crystal]

There's this one: https://huggingface.co/spaces/yuntian-deng/o1

[livid mantle]

o1 is not perfect luigi.

We are not there yet.

[zealous kayak]

I mean I'd say o1 is like, barely worth using

unless you specifically need it to help in one of the areas it's good at

[livid mantle]

Luigi, your opinion will be different only if you had more money.

Don't blame it on the LLM.

[zealous kayak]

...nah, it really isn't, but you do you man

[obsidian crystal]

Nah, o1 helped me to solve some coding issues, no other model on Perplexity barely even solved it (full of mistakes and bugs).

[livid mantle]

At least we know Luigi is not a fan of o1, that makes o1 SOMETHING!

Fun fact, o1 have replaced CS tech jobs.

[pulsar compass]

I want to try Perplexity API, But need some test Bear Token, I can not find the Token when i login the Perplexity.

where apply Perplexity API Bear Token?

[strange flax]

Alguien puede decirme como puedo crear imagenes?

[livid mantle]

can someone PRO SEARCH for me on perplexity on how the process of getting deported works when visa is rejected in USA airport thanks

[wraith crow]

You can find a guide here https://discord.com/channels/1047197230748151888/1225557012532695060

[fast citrus]

anyone here code a search engine with similar architecture as this: http://infolab.stanford.edu/~backrub/google.html

Trying to build each component from scratch to dive deep into search

[harsh verge]

Do you want a particular model?

[livid mantle]

Hmm, opus please thanks.

[harsh verge]

Opus 😅

[livid mantle]

Or the default will work too the "gpt-4-turbo"

[harsh verge]

https://www.perplexity.ai/search/how-the-process-of-getting-dep-MrOQDc9oQRyv3Gdi9yQmDw

[livid mantle]

Appreciate you MR. mydpi

[devout quarry]

hello

[placid coyote]

remember, you can customize AI responses via your AI profile or Spaces instructions. you can "improve" how it responds 😉

[worn zenith]

Smol cat

[zealous kayak]

New messages in threads are STILL hidden

[oak burrow]

can anyone tell me what perplexity is?

[scenic gulch]

Everyone's got a problem with not keeping the messages?

[serene sand]

deep dive ➤ #💬│general message

[oak burrow]

i just wanted a short answer but thank you 🙏

[zealous kayak]

Yep, every thread that gets long enough has that issue

[worldly trout]

Does perplexity allow extensions like this?

[jovial mantle]

@worldly trout Complexity is unsupported officially, but it works smoothly on desktop

[worldly trout]

Ah okay, so they don't ban people for modification like this?

[jovial mantle]

No, why would they.

It's a browser extension.

[drifting stone]

Grok requires pro sub right?

[ember forge]

Nop

[ember forge]

Yes

[serene sand]

https://www.perplexity.ai/search/what-is-perplexity-ai-zevLtPmzSGaHSm5h0j2Ocw

Just Plex It

[ember forge]

Thats all models u get with PRO @drifting stone

[ember forge]

Wrong url

😂

Perplexity should use groq lol

would be crazy fast

[ember forge]

😎

[plain patio]

Do we know if preplexity will enable us to load our own documents to search them via API anytime soon?

[serene sand]

https://x.com/apostraphi/status/1856093208524005715?s=61

Phi Hoang (@apostraphi) on X

Twitter · Nov 11, 2024, 9:54 PM

[zealous kayak]

I sure love seeing perplexity's ads while my threads are still broken...

it's been nothing but tech issues for a month

[solemn summit]

Hello

[junior adder]

Hello to everyone who's moping about long threads not working properly

[worldly trout]

Well but it changes the actual behavior of the site right? Well anyway that's good, just wanted to make sure.

Like for example how does complexity allow you to use o1-mini if the base perplexity doesn't?

[jovial mantle]

It only works with perplexity pro

[worldly trout]

Oh so complexity doesn't add it, it's just part of the base application (with pro).

[tame current]

UI 😛

[prime ore]

Im going to try spaces soon

Perplexity always amazing me

[tame current]

spaces is the GOAT

[indigo valve]

Does anyone know why my spaces doesn't follow my custom instructions?

[thorn furnace]

Hey guys, I run Red Brick Labs - building AI tools for people. Looking to get some contractors to help with work. If you understand LLM's, front end and DB's - please reach out

[timber yacht]

The coding sync session is running now. Feel free to DM if you want to join. We work on independent projects, 30-40min sprints, 5-7 syncs and mentoring in between. 100% free, no ads. That helps me to stay focused on my own deliveries.

[tribal spoke]

Did something happen to spaces? I had a few built out but I cannot see them any more from iPhone or safari

[indigo valve]

I hate that I keep wasting my pro uses on the spaces that don't listen to me. I want to research products with a certain flow and it just completely ignores my prompts

[lament rock]

Anyone else noticed that the scrollbar is missing in the Mac app? Makes scrolling to the bottom of a long thread slow and inconvenient.😐

[arctic bone]

Hey everyone,
I got a Rabbit R1 which came with a free year of Perplexity Pro (valued at $200). It's about to expire in a few days, and I'm wondering:
Will the Perplexity Pro subscription automatically continue to be free after the trial period ends?
If not, will I have to start paying for it to keep using Perplexity on my R1?
Is there any way to extend the free period?
I've heard that the R1's Perplexity features will keep working without the Pro subscription, but I want to make sure I understand correctly. Any clarification would be super helpful!
Thanks!

[sleek vortex]

Will the Perplexity Pro subscription automatically continue to be free after the trial period ends?
No

[sleek vortex]

I've heard that the R1's Perplexity features will keep working without the Pro subscription, but I want to make sure I understand correctly. Any clarification would be super helpful!
I'd assume it would use free search then, so yes.

[ember forge]

Free model, and limited pro searches.

[ember forge]

R1 is trash, basicly just running android apps.

Should work.

[prime ore]

have you guys fixed the mac os app?

still google sign in problem and it has a lot of features the webapp hasnt for mac, i like the one you sent me it works great but not integrated in the mac system

[ancient sleet]

I've been trying to follow the #1140622008086970420 page but want to 100% clarify if anyone knows. This is my understanding: the "thread does not exist" bug is fixed, the "not displaying new follow-up responses in long threads" bug is not yet fixed. Is this correct?

[simple portal]

bro 🥸

sam, we know you tuned this into the model lol

what even is that tone i didnt tell it to respond in this way or anything like that ahaha

"but hey, if any "technoking" moves start happening, Ill keep you posted!"

[glacial ocean]

https://perplexity.ai/pro?referral_code=DNQSJ1ZC

[simple portal]

invalid

uh

i didnt get to copy it

is this against the rules

no right

yeah no lol

its making them profit

surely theyre fine with referals

dont see it

:/

oh god i dont even have $10

nvm

[livid mantle]

accept what you cannot change but be prepared to adapt your path

[valid iris]

Bruh, I'm using perplexity pro and it gives me less than 10 sources each time, but felo ai and genspark give me around 20 and they're FREE

[simple portal]

no way

20 sources and theyre free?

are you affiliated with them lol

ok this is a ruthless knock off of perplexity 💀

let me try it tho

[ember forge]

You.com also gets alot more.

@simple portal But perplexity verify and has trusted sources. it does not take random.

There is also Phind.

[simple portal]

interesting, are they also pure knock offs?

in terms of the ui and functionality

[ember forge]

You.com is no knockoff, and phind neither.

[simple portal]

you.com is a wild domain name to have lol

[ember forge]

Recently chatgpt got chat.com

lol

[simple portal]

definitely someone who started a company during the dot com bubble

[simple portal]

oh wow lol i wonder if they rly needed that

ok yeah you.com is at least not exactly the same

[ember forge]

People believe they want to get ride of the "GPT" later.

[simple portal]

looks like its got some cool features

[ember forge]

So incase they get more, and beter models, and they dont add "GPT" Anymore in them. Chat.com will be amazing use.

[simple portal]

rebranding to "chat" is kind of weird though

[ember forge]

Amazing af.

Ngl

[simple portal]

since llms do more than that

[ember forge]

Well you always start with a "Chat".

You prompt it to do something.

[odd lava]

Bruh, 3 pro search in each day reload...

[simple portal]

i think its primary source of profit will be the api

[odd lava]

Are you serious

[ember forge]

How you mean?

On felo?

[simple portal]

are you mad that perplexity doesnt give u their premium service for free? or talking abt felo

[ember forge]

Perplexity PRO reloads +1 each 4 hours...

Dude its free.

[odd lava]

Previously the Pro search was 5 that reload every 4 hours

[simple portal]

bruh

[ember forge]

For 20$ a month u get basicly unlimited Anthropic,OpenAI,XAI,Perplexity AI.

[simple portal]

eh itds not the same as the chatgpt subscription

[odd lava]

I think im gonna wait for the black friday discount 🫠

[simple portal]

but yeah $20 a month is not much and these models are expesnive af

theyre losing money on them rn

[odd lava]

It is

[simple portal]

highly energy intensive process

[ember forge]

Ofcourse.

[ember forge]

If u look good u can get 1 year perplexity for under 30 bucks now

Who knows, Knows 😂

[odd lava]

Amen, Im craving every black friday deals lol

[simple portal]

ohh were you talking about you.com

yeah the 3 uses kind of sucked lol

just now

[ember forge]

He was talking about Perplexity free i believe.

[odd lava]

Yes, thats what I thought

[simple portal]

yeah prob not reasonable to expect more for free lets be honest people buy hamburgers for $20

and starbucks lattes

and this is a cutting edge new tech which is extremely energy intensive and complex & $20 gets u a ton of usage for an entire month

[ember forge]

Tbh i would need to try You.com pro if its really good.

[simple portal]

vs 2 frapachinos

[ember forge]

Also u have pretty much unlimited usage.

Each 2 min +1 Usage back.

lol

300 was already alot, and now its 600.

[simple portal]

im sure they're just building their userbase too in this stage and offering more for free initially while graduallly

restricting features behind a paywall

would be expected

[ember forge]

They already gave alot away for free.

[simple portal]

yeah thats also due to the rate of improvement in the models

but yeah they do

its because we're in a tech bubble lol

investors are pouring everything into these companies without them being profitable

because they know the winners will dominate the entire tech industry

whoever those winners are

& their best shot is to invest a lot in a lot of companies

[ember forge]

We would need a good prompt to test on You.com and Felo.ai and Phind and Perplexity

see which one is the best.

Those are most known.

Phind has a instant model, and is the fastest i seen with search.

[simple portal]

0 shot

[ember forge]

U need try phind @simple portal

Its crazy fast.

[simple portal]

ok

[ember forge]

https://www.phind.com/search?home=true

And Phind instant

[simple portal]

its pretty fast but the model seems a little weak

[ember forge]

Yeah mostly low params, for so super fast model.

How biger how slower.

[simple portal]

also 0 shot probably

no intermediary reasoning steps

uh

it just cited 1 source over 23 times

in an answer

[ember forge]

Phind?

Xd

Phind beter for coding.

Can skip that one already.

[valid iris]

I setup xSearch on iOS such that I can search multiple ai search engines SIMULTANEOUSLY

[ember forge]

可以一次全部使用吗？

[ember forge]

U can use all at once?

[lone rivet]

Anyone knows how many reasoning beta answers we get in a day? Answer quality is great way better than normal pro search but not sure how to pace it (seems like we only get 10 or something?)

[ember forge]

O1 迷你版是 10，所以是道具 10。

[ember forge]

O1 Mini is 10, so it's prop 10.

[ember forge]

You can always use O1 Mini using complexity extention.

It refills +1 each 4 hours.

[lone rivet]

Awesome, thanks much!

[valid iris]

Yep. I open up "spotlight" type my query with a shortcut phrase at the beginning or end of the query, and then it will open up uncovr first because that's the first engine, and then it opens up a separate tab for each successive engine in the list.

Unfortunately, not all websites are compatible with this, but I still feel like the fact that all of those tabs were opened after just one action is much more convenient than having to open up each tab individually

[valid yoke]

Perplexity just sent me a notification

We Might Be Wrong About Uranus

[rigid kestrel]

broken again?

[lethal sphinx]

yeah

[copper knot]

we're broken

DOGE = dept of govt efficiency LOL

[grizzled socket]

anybody?

[acoustic junco]

yep

[delicate pumice]

dead

[dapper pewter]

yea

[grizzled socket]

mmhmmm

[acoustic junco]

had a few good hours, then went to “all threads deleted” and now whatever this is

[lethal sphinx]

just read the text wtf

[smoky wagon]

I thought it was my internet, lol.

[grizzled socket]

same

im tryna finish my hw with this bruu

[acoustic junco]

this is God’s sign to do my offline flashcards instead of browse on AI

sorry y’all, i brought this on us with my procrastination

[grizzled socket]

yo its back

yessur

[delicate pumice]

nice

[tacit meteor]

Great!

[acoustic junco]

procrastination back on 😎 thanks jesus

[late socket]

perplexity is down. Reached max capacity

[verbal verge]

website has been revived.

[valid iris]

https://www.genspark.ai/autopilotagent_viewer?id=b1190308-5abd-4be5-baba-4244aab36c81

144 sources

Sorry to bring up politics, the page is about jd Vance

Okay, so I counted 65

The 144 appears to be generated by an ai model and not just a number like in perplexity

BUT STILL

[silent perch]

I wanna register my edu mail with my school provided, but I can't get a pro, why?

[urban kite]

what do Perplexity Sonar Models mean? what is sonar model

[simple portal]

solar slares and stuff

[versed plaza]

Are there any way to remove a source from the Android app or is it the web app only?

I was using a space for playing satisfactory and it's really only possible with uploading the photos but it will get so confused if you keep piling them so being able to remove sources's lifesaver

[indigo valve]

Pretty crazy

[fading moth]

https://www.perplexity.ai/hub/blog/why-we-re-experimenting-with-advertising

[harsh stag]

if they're not baking the sponsored sources into the answer then it's all good

[warm cave]

Do paid users get ads?

[harsh stag]

yes they do 🚀

[warm cave]

lol 😂

Why? Give it to free users

Paid with ads is some Amazon trash. At least the ads don’t seem very annoying, I don’t even look at the suggested follow up question, kinda forgot they existed

I just wish they were using it to cover the free users, and then provide ad free forever for paid users

[harsh stag]

with ads, maybe for once the follow ups section is actually useful

imagine you.com appears as a sponsored result when you're asking about perplexity on perplexity itself

😂

[warm cave]

Haha, that’s would be great

I bet you this is stage 1 of ad rollout

Something small and less noticeable

[harsh stag]

was google once a beloved product?

one step closer to monopoly 😎

[warm cave]

💵😎💵

I hope they reconsider the ads for paid users, I think that ads will be an important part for them providing a free tier, but if ads start to degrade the experience than that is a no go

[indigo valve]

I keep changing the model and Spaces still doesn't follow my instructions

[stiff sigil]

Try entering one line at a time

[indigo valve]

Doesn't seem to matter to much. I'm trying to have it format for product research but it ends up just throwing the "buy with pro" but without the formatting

[livid mantle]

do not let minor inconveniences distract you from your path @harsh stag

[worldly trout]

I don't think they should also give these to paid users.

[prime ore]

This is the message of the day!

Powerfull mesage dude, in life you should never let inconvenienced distract you from your path

[livid mantle]

#1218983754165387436 message

[valid iris]

Sponsored questions?

And will premium subscribers have to see the ads?

[young niche]

do i need to care about how much big one thread gets with all the info, is there a limit for characters a thread can have?

[umbral gorge]

Hi everyone, can anyone tell me is perplexity api is allowed to send attachments like images? because no where i found that such endpoints, but their AI said it supported the attachments.

[main oasis]

Hey Aravind! 👋 I've been diving into some fascinating research on using fractals to boost AI performance, especially in language models. Check this out:

Fractals can be a game-changer for AI models by tapping into their self-similar patterns and long-range dependence. Here's the scoop:

• Self-Similarity: Helps AI grasp and mimic the repeating patterns in human language
• Long-Range Dependence: Fractal parameters can improve how LLMs predict downstream performance
• Fractal Attention: This could be the key to major breakthroughs in LLMs

I've got some ideas for how Perplexity AI could level up:

1. Add fractal parameters like Hurst exponent and fractal dimension to the model
2. Experiment with fractal attention mechanisms for better pattern recognition
3. Team up with math and CS experts to push the boundaries of fractals in LLMs

What do you think? Could be pretty revolutionary for AI and language models, right? 🤔

If you want to dig deeper, check out these sources:
• https://www.toolify.ai/ai-news/unleashing-the-power-of-fractals-in-language-models-1774225
• https://www.geeksforgeeks.org/unveiling-the-potential-of-fractal-machine-learning/
• https://arxiv.org/abs/2401.04141

Let me know your thoughts! Maybe we could brainstorm some more ideas on how to make this happen. 🚀 #FractalsInAI #LanguageModels #AIInnovation

Citations:
[1] On The Potential of The Fractal Geometry and The CNNs Ability to ... https://arxiv.org/abs/2401.04141
[2] Unleashing the Power of Fractals in Language Models - Toolify.ai https://www.toolify.ai/ai-news/unleashing-the-power-of-fractals-in-language-models-1774225
[3] Unveiling the Potential of Fractal Machine Learning - GeeksforGeeks https://www.geeksforgeeks.org/unveiling-the-potential-of-fractal-machine-learning/
[4] Helping enterprises solve data-related problems with Generative AI https://fractal.ai/helping-enterprises-solve-data-related-problems-with-generative-ai/

[fiery ravine]

Hi all, do we have a way to search for content created and publish into the Discover Section ? It's like there is no Search Engine to do it - ( i am in the Pro version) | thanks !

[prime ore]

Stoicism i see

[livid mantle]

yes sir

[prime ore]

Great i like it too

[sinful moat]

What is the best perplexity model available right now? It appears that gpt-o is currently the most effective option for me for some reason.

[lunar robin]

I’ve just discovered Perplexity and enjoyed it so much I’ve subscribed, but I’m disappointed to see on joining this Discord community that ads are going to be trialled. If ads start appearing on my app I’ll be discontinuing my subscription and going back to Claude and Chat.

[coarse arrow]

So quite interesting, i have perplexity pro and i chose GPT-4o. I have asked if its chatgpt and it said it isnt - how does choosing model work then ?

[wicked blade]

Hi, guys. I know it has nothing to do with the group's topic, but would anyone know which search engine ChatGPT is currently using? Is it Bing? Which perplexity uses?

🤔

[gritty widget]

no matter whatever model I choose, I just get replies from gpt 4o now. Does anyone know how to fix it?

[karmic dagger]

Hi

[cyan socket]

well u cant do anything about it tbh.

they will never fix this bug

[loud oxide]

Any math geniuses that can give insight on what the 2024 presidential popular vote margin of victory will be as a final result? Trump +2? +3? Even +1?

[gritty widget]

do you know if it gets resolved on its own? If yes, how long does it take if at all?

[cyan socket]

its random sometimes it go back to the original model, sometimes it still gpt 4o. what u can do is pray that the CEO of the perplexity care about his services

[warm cave]

I don’t believe that the pplx api supports images or attachments, I believe it’s text only

[silent patrol]

Hello, guys. I have Perplexity AI Pro. How do I generate some images?

[serene sand]

https://discord.com/channels/1047197230748151888/1225557012532695060

[gritty widget]

I am a pro subscriber for months now. For the last 6 hours, it doesnt matter which model I choose, its all GPT 4o for me which is highly unacceptable since I majorly pay to get access to Claude Sonnet 3.5
@signal hamlet can we expect a quick resolution to this as I was working on a project with extensive usage of Claude and its now in a limbo despite being a paid subscriber

[livid mantle]

Math? use o1-preview

[warm cave]

You betting on it?

[blissful pendant]

Can you share a thread? How do you know it's 4o instead of Sonnet?

[simple portal]

is gpt-4o incapable of something you were using claude for?

ive had some models disabled at times as well as a pro subscriber

i think they do it from time to timed

[tame current]

ay

[limpid sun]

🚨 The AI Bubble Is About To Pop...

But not for the reason everyone thinks.

While everyone watches OpenAI vs Google, history is repeating:
Someone's quietly building the next AdWords.

(The parallels to 1999 are impossible to miss)

The implications are staggering: https://chrisbora.substack.com/p/the-ai-bubble-is-about-to-pop-heres

[cyan socket]

https://www.perplexity.ai/search/you-are-being-utilized-by-perp-oKfWzRngT5605Fnzx7GOOw

[cyan socket]

u can just what model are you it will just say im open ai from gpt 4

im using claude 3.5 sonnet and the answer is openai gpt4? yeah right

[blissful pendant]

https://discord.com/channels/1047197230748151888/1225549032718602332
Need a better way to identify

[sour vigil]

hello, i am trying to ask answer but the answers getting trimmed out and not receiving full answer

[cyan socket]

bro its different, like all the answer literally gpt 4 instead claude 3.5, usually claude 3.5 sonnet have shorter respond but gpt 4o using long respond. its easy to tell its not from system prompt

[blissful pendant]

Okay, one last test. Do a before and after and see if the "gpt4_limit" changes
https://www.perplexity.ai/p/api/v1/user/settings

[cyan socket]

there

[blissful pendant]

Yeah you're right, that's super weird. Have you tried logging out, clearing temp files, cache, cookies, and then logging back in?

(Works from my end)
Sonnet version
GPT4o version

[cyan socket]

its still not working

[cyan socket]

its not just me alot of people got this bug too

[blissful pendant]

Yeah, very strange. You could also try a different type of browser just in case also. But it's starting to sound like an A/B test gone wrong. I'd start a support ticket if you haven't already

[blissful pendant]

If you do a follow-up question to my Sonnet thread above, it still reverts back to GPT4o?

[cyan socket]

i try following up for the sonnet version, it got gpt respond

[cyan socket]

even i try one of popular browser microsoft edge it still give me gpt response

[golden dew]

So ads on perplexity? What does that look like??

[mint carbon]

They need to add ads as soon as possible, this is what will make them truly different then any other llm.

Check out #😎│cool-projects if you are interested in a project I am working on.

[harsh verge]

If I may ... 😉
This test you're doing with the page (https://www.perplexity.ai/rest/user/settings) is in no way conclusive. All models with a quota of 600 are grouped under the generic "gpt4_limit," whether it’s Claude 3.5 Sonnet, Claude 3.5 Haiku, Sonar Huge, etc. Only Claude Opus and o1 mini have their quotas counted separately ("opus_limit" and "o1_limit"). This has always been the case. Therefore, it is completely normal that when using a Claude Sonnet 3.5, a quota is deducted on the page (https://www.perplexity.ai/rest/user/settings) under the line "gpt4_limit."

[blissful pendant]

Okay, you're right. The label is misleading. Then we're left with only analyzing the results and guessing the LLM. Which is what was done earlier

[zealous kayak]

That thread is just not relevant

(as in, in this context it does not apply)

the models will known if they're made by anthropic or OpenAI

this has been proven several times in the thread about this issue

[harsh verge]

I’m in Europe, so I don’t yet have the ‘pleasure’ of seeing them 😅

[blissful pendant]

Oh don't worry, I'm sure you'll be included soon enough 💀 😅

[harsh verge]

Clearly, no one will escape it. 😓

[blissful pendant]

If PPLX results don't turn into the giant glob of ads that google search results provides, I'll be slightly happy

[harsh verge]

If it’s as planned in the follow-ups and clearly identified as such, it might be acceptable. I’m waiting to see it concretely 👀

[halcyon coral]

Please note:

Before getting into the details, we want to highlight our guiding principle: the content of the answers you receive on Perplexity will not be influenced by advertisers. Users come to Perplexity for a more efficient, uncluttered, and unbiased search experience, and that isn’t changing.

[civic wren]

Yeah, getting this issue too. Started happening last night. Been about 10 hours since then and still having issues with getting the correct model to respond.

[cyan socket]

i recommend report this bug on this channel https://discord.com/channels/1047197230748151888/1299441439620464640 so they dont ignore this problem

[civic wren]

Yep, just did. Thanks! 👍🏻

[golden storm]

Nope, I’m not paying for ads. Either ads or subscription, not both.

[timber yacht]

Another one has just started.

[serene sand]

https://x.com/gregfeingold/status/1856088784699277668?s=61

Greg Feingold (@GregFeingold) on X

By popular demand, we’re expanding our campus strategist program to Canada 🇨🇦

If you’re interested in applying, or know someone who would be a good fit, please reach out!

Twitter · Nov 11, 2024, 9:37 PM

[tardy wigeon]

Ads as well as paying $20 a month. No. I won't be renewing.

[mint carbon]

They plan on using ads even if you have a monthly subscription?

That is not going to go too well.

[warm cave]

Yeah, honestly pretty crazy move

[eager mauve]

How to avail non-profit discount for Entrprise pro license

[silent magnet]

I'm sorry did they officially say Pro would have ads?

I'm trying to find any source whatsoever of this and can't find it.

[mental harness]

Look in #📢│announcements

[silent magnet]

I get for free users. I mean for Pro. There’s no explicit mention of it.

[delicate delta]

which engine on perplexity gives best programming results?

[median summit]

you mean the model correct? I use perplexity to code a lot, and I love the Claude 3.5 Sonnet. But sometimes I use GPT-4o.

[obsidian crystal]

Unrelated though but fonts without anti-aliasing look so pretty…

[echo narwhal]

What happened to o1 mini on perplexity

[ember forge]

它已更改为 BETA 推理，这取决于提示，有时 PRO 会根据问题自动进行推理。

[ember forge]

It has been changed to BETA reasoning, depending on the prompt, and sometimes PRO will automatically reason based on the question.

[obsidian crystal]

||您在使用实时翻译软件吗？||

[ember forge]

是

[torpid marten]

Anyone knows if thinking claude can be used on perplexity? I tried creating a space and pasting the prompt but the prompt is way too long

[ember forge]

Upload it as a file.

and each time in your prompt tell it to use the file in space for extra reasoning as example.

Or tell it in the system prompt.

[cunning elm]

I heard that they now limit Pro Searches to just 3 per day

[tight prism]

I love Grok 2, less censored more fun and rewritten using GPT 4o to be logical

[late pawn]

Folks, I'd like to change my registered email address on the platform. I can't find the option.

:(

[serene sand]

if you wish to change your email address you should write an email to [e-mail]

[hoary spear]

Quick question - Another user I know generated this result on his search of US elections .

This is what i generate. How is it possible to generate results in that former way ? I think if I'm able to get results in that format I would be using it more often because it's much better presentationally.

I like the detailed search function but sometimes when I have to see things live all this information becomes unnecessary

[warm cave]

https://www.perplexity.ai/elections this is a special page made by the team for the election, now that it’s over they might not include it in perplexity results

[hoary spear]

Oh shi, so that was a bespoke result. I thought Perplexity was able to create those maps and tables using data from various sources.

[marsh totem]

hey 🖐️

[tight prism]

Hi

[heady mica]

Hey! Is there any reason why Claude Opus 3 was removed? It is an excellent model for deep reasoning and Haiku can't match it.

[icy cloak]

perplextiy can't generates images anymore?

[halcyon coral]

Hey @heady mica!
Opus has been removed as Perplexity always stays up to date with the best LLMs. Currently the best models from Anthropic, Claude 3.5 Sonnet and Haiku are available.

[timber yacht]

Today's sessions has been started.

[serene sand]

https://x.com/apostraphi/status/1857109958107578509?s=61

Phi Hoang (@apostraphi) on X

naturally

Twitter · Nov 14, 2024, 5:14 PM

[cunning elm]

Do you know why they recently limited Pro Searches to just 3 per day for free users?

[marble ice]

are the ads also for Pro users?

[cunning elm]

Hope not

[prime ore]

Pro users dont have ads

We bossin

[warm cave]

Perplexity, web add Gemini 2.0?

[prime ore]

Where?

[warm cave]

I believe it’s the they are testing it as Gemini Experimental 1114

[harsh verge]

https://x.com/lmarena_ai/status/1857110672565494098

lmarena.ai (formerly lmsys.org) (@lmarena_ai) on X

Massive News from Chatbot Arena🔥

@GoogleDeepMind's latest Gemini (Exp 1114), tested with 6K+ community votes over the past week, now ranks joint #1 overall with an impressive 40+ score leap — matching 4o-latest in and surpassing o1-preview! It also claims #1 on Vision

Twitter · Nov 14, 2024, 5:17 PM

[warm cave]

Gemini killing it

[cyan socket]

well its just opinion of the people. its just vote. like every llm come out will be the top of leaderboard in lmsys

[warm cave]

We will see where it stands when the CI lowers

[harsh verge]

Yes, as often happens. But my first impressions after trying it are quite positive. It doesn't matter if it's first, third, or lower.

[warm cave]

In the very least it would be 4th place

Would be surprising if it did out best old Gemini 1.5

So right above grok, or higher

[harsh verge]

The API will be released soon, and the 32,767 token limit will be increased quickly. (According to official information)

[digital star]

Quick question: I am using llama 70B via API and I've been using 2k tokens per request all day but dashboard says nothing spent. is there some bug in the dashboard atm?

[ember forge]

Click "View dashboard"

Under api keys

you will see how much you used there.

[digital star]

no that's what I am trying to say

[ember forge]

let me try

sec

[digital star]

I've been using perplex api for some time and it all been working fine but today all I get is empty screen. figured I should report it

[ember forge]

It indeed does not update

[digital star]

ah so it's not just me

thnx for checking btw

[ember forge]

+1

[warm cave]

Nice

[silent patrol]

Hello, guys. My app isn't working

[wicked blade]

Hi, guys. I know it has nothing to do with the group's topic, but would anyone know which search engine ChatGPT is currently using? Is it Bing? Which perplexity uses?

🤔

[frosty pulsar]

Gemini has to be the worst AI available, utter garbage

[indigo valve]

How so?

[fluid wadi]

In this ad announcement, this isn't going to touch paying users right? The minute I see an ad as a paying user, I'm gone.

[warm cave]

Bye, if you are in the USA then you will see ads, even if you are a pro user

Crazy I know

[fluid wadi]

Not in the US, so safe for now, but lmao that's wild. Paying users shouldn't see ads, period.

[warm cave]

Lucky, haha. I’m fine too tho, I will just block the sponsors with an extension

But of the ads get more intrusive… perplexity will be trash

[stiff burrow]

Hello, guys

[warm cave]

Yo

[stiff burrow]

Umm...I think I need some help.

[warm cave]

What’s up?

[stiff burrow]

I can't upload some document on my Perplexity.

Even if I bought the Pro, choose the docx.

But it still said cannot deal the document

[warm cave]

I’m not sure if docx is supported, I will test If o can upload that type

[stiff burrow]

I think I can give the screenshot.

[cold meadow]

I cant too in Spaces now

[torpid marten]

How do I upload a file into a space?

[stiff burrow]

Are you too?!

[cold meadow]

Yes, i think its globaö issue

[stiff burrow]

I even tried the pdf, txt, but they are the same

[late pawn]

I'm very happy! I managed to change my email through a ticket opened in the support channel within the platform.

[cold meadow]

This error has been preventing me from uploading any files to Spaces for 6 hours now.

[stiff burrow]

Well, it's seem not my problem...

[warm cave]

Hmmm, I get the same problem, in a normal chat docx files work, but in spaces it fails

Bug report time

[stiff burrow]

Yap

[cold meadow]

Yes, yes, same

[late pawn]

I've been having this same problem since early today, I've also reported it.

:(

[stiff burrow]

Wait, so it's still work until the early?

[warm cave]

Why dose perplexity have such a hard time with files uploads

Always doing file upload related bug fixes

[stiff burrow]

Ahh, come on!

I'm gonna to make a karge amount the note

[late pawn]

I live in Brazil, here it's 10:25 PM Thursday.

[stiff burrow]

I live in China( Taiwan), now is 9:26 a.m. , friday.

[warm cave]

https://discord.com/channels/1047197230748151888/1306792550278889593

Have you tried google Gemini via aistudio.google.com

It’s free and has 2M tokens of context

Also notebooklm is pretty nice

[late pawn]

OMG! I like to joke with my colleagues who live abroad in different time zones that they're already in the future, while my future won't be until tomorrow. It's a bit funny.

It's so cool how the Internet can break down borders

[stiff burrow]

I can't use it.It said I don't have the permission.

[warm cave]

Oh, you don’t have pro permissions

You can leave the discord and rejoin with the links in perplexity setting

[stiff burrow]

OK, give me a minute...

[warm cave]

Anyone having this problem can expand on the issue in this bug report, so then they can take it seriously and fix it

[stiff burrow]

Thanks

[warm cave]

No problem

[stiff burrow]

I know, it's really cool.

Huh, it looks successed.

[warm cave]

Haha, I guess it’s fixed, for now…

[stiff burrow]

Without any process

[stiff burrow]

Yeah...

But I feel grateful for your help.

[warm cave]

Of course 🙂

[stiff burrow]

To prevent some people from China(mainland), I think it's much better.

[ember forge]

Hm?

[brazen meteor]

#💬│general

[ember forge]

你用翻译器吗？

[stiff burrow]

沒有，英文就這麼爛...

[ember forge]

没多大意义 xD

[stiff burrow]

怕被當台獨啊

[ember forge]

"为了防止一些人从中国（大陆）来，我觉得这样更好"。

这就是你说的。

[stiff burrow]

首先，為我的爛英文道歉
再來，就怕某些極左翼份子說我台獨

[ember forge]

没关系，我不是中国人，但我能翻译大多数语言，写作也一样。我用英语写作，它就会被翻译。

[ember forge]

不要担心别人怎么想。

[ember forge]

如果您经常使用 discord，可以下载 vencord，并使用免费的谷歌翻译插件进行翻译。

您可以翻译选定的信息，并将您的文字从中文直接翻译成英文。

[stiff burrow]

I know, but ...
I don't support the DPP.
I favor the KMT because at least we won't be threaten.

[ember forge]

用中文说，因为我不知道你到底是什么意思。

[stiff burrow]

Thanks for your advice, but I still insist in using my bad English.

[ember forge]

民进党（DPP）和国民党（KMT）是台湾的两个主要政党，各自代表着不同的政治意识形态和对台湾治理及其与中国关系的态度。

好吧，我明白了。

[ember forge]

当然

[stiff burrow]

我又不支持民進黨
我比較喜歡國民黨，最起碼他們當家時台灣不會被威脅

[ember forge]

我并不了解这些问题。

我正在利用人工智能来学习，来理解它。

[stiff burrow]

不過蠻意外的是這裡不像網路梗那樣問我中國的一些問題...在我印象中他們很容易搞混...

[stiff burrow]

事實上，這是一段複雜的歷史問題

反正現在大陸認為民進黨是支持台灣獨立的，所以他們用各種軍事演習和經濟制裁等方式“威脅”他們

[ember forge]

所以，你希望中国和台湾再次加强联系？

[stiff burrow]

但相對而言，國民黨希望能夠找到一個平衡點能處理好台灣和大陸跟台灣和美國的關係

[ember forge]

我明白了

[stiff burrow]

在我看來，所謂的統一是歷史必然的
但是要經過很長一段時間進行磨合
絕對不是通過幾張紙或是戰爭就能達到的

[ember forge]

我能理解中国受到的限制更多。

你就不怕如果他们接受，台湾会受到中国更多的限制？

比如，你在台湾使用 VPN 访问 Discord 吗？

[stiff burrow]

所以我說了，這是要經過很長一段時間的磨合
這又設計另一個複雜的層面，因為雙方在政府機構和政治體系上都有很大不同

沒處理好就會像當初東德和西德那樣

[ember forge]

当然。

[stiff burrow]

當然不用

[ember forge]

在中国，你必须这样做，才能获得更多自由。

中国防火墙

你只会说简单的中文？不会跨国语言？

[stiff burrow]

這又很複雜了...
反正對我來說，最理想的統一方式是雙方在很多方面都要做出巨大的讓步，但這很難

[stiff burrow]

我會中文，只是英文不好

[ember forge]

我指的是简体中文还是繁体中文？

您能同时理解两种语言，还是只能理解简化语言？

[stiff burrow]

我不會打簡體中文，但我看得懂

[ember forge]

現在我使用傳統方式，這樣比較好嗎？

[stiff burrow]

倒是我上bilibili 時有些人看到我打字很痛苦（因為是繁體字

[ember forge]

您能更清楚地理解這一點嗎？

[ember forge]

我聽說很多人都很難理解傳統。

他們說簡化版更好

[stiff burrow]

因為簡體是從繁體進行簡單化後變成的

[ember forge]

我當然明白 xD

[stiff burrow]

所以一個字當中很多部分被省略，所以有些人看不懂

[ember forge]

是的，就是這個原因。

[stiff burrow]

因為在書寫的時候更簡單也更好學

[ember forge]

新一代都是簡化的中國人，對嗎？

[stiff burrow]

呃…其實用你想用的方式就好了
因為我都看得懂

[ember forge]

啊，好吧。我的意思是我可以打字和翻譯。

😂

[stiff burrow]

我想問你的母語是什麼？

[ember forge]

英語和荷蘭語

主要是荷蘭語

[stiff burrow]

荷蘭人？

[stiff burrow]

其實用英文就好

[ember forge]

比利時和荷蘭的語言。

[stiff burrow]

我看得懂一點，剩的用軟體翻譯就好

[stiff burrow]

我是說你來自哪裡

[ember forge]

我不介意一直翻譯。這樣我們就能互相理解了。

[stiff burrow]

因為軟體翻譯還是有問題

[ember forge]

哦，翻譯說您會說什麼語言/您的主要語言是什麼。

我來自比利時歐洲。

[stiff burrow]

就像這句我看不懂

[stiff burrow]

比利時人，ok...
蠻酷的

[stiff burrow]

呃…抱歉我用中文的聊天方式

[ember forge]

我使用 DeepL 進行翻譯，大多數情況下效果不錯，但有時也會出錯。

我不介意，我有個中國朋友，我們經常這樣聊天。

[stiff burrow]

這一句話其實是我在問你來自哪裡

[ember forge]

它透過外掛程式全自動整合到我的 discord 中。

我不需要做太多的努力。

[ember forge]

是的，我來自比利時歐洲。

[stiff burrow]

有點羨慕
因為我都不會用這些外掛

[ember forge]

就像我說的，您需要 vencord，它是修改過的版本。

它仍然是 discord，只是經過修改，讓您可以使用外掛程式。

[ember forge]

https://vencord.dev/

[stiff burrow]

Hmm...有趣
也許我應該找時間和設備測試

[ember forge]

Vencord 完全免費，外掛程式也有 google 翻譯功能。

我使用 DeepL pro，以獲得更好的中文翻譯。

但 google 翻譯也做得不錯。

[stiff burrow]

有意思

呃…我得上課了

有空再聊

[ember forge]

好了，保重，祝你今天愉快！

祝您好運 😄

[bold topaz]

看到一堆中文以為進錯板

[ember forge]

😂

[fluid wadi]

real China hours

[indigo valve]

What is happening lmao

[balmy flint]

毛主席万寿无疆

[verbal verge]

看到一堆中文以為進錯板

[stiff burrow]

這裡太中文化了是嗎？

Here is too Chinese, huh?

[inner sinew]

華語萬歲

[sleek pike]

Does Perplexity do a real plagiarism check before writing an article? When we tell AI to write a plagiarism free article, it is never fully plagiarism free. (Most articles are usable though)

[foggy wraith]

You can always produce the prompt in which it gives the article outline and specify that key in the prompting as well

Making it generate original, key details and not to include anything that may come across plagiarized

That helps

[foggy wraith]

But you really shouldn't have to worry about that... But there is key prompting guides. You can even direct the ai to be more aware of plagiarism. So even if the AI is aware you do have to state that in your prompting...

But yes it does it's and will even include information near the bottom of it's search to indicate where the resources can be located

[atomic heath]

👋 Dear community members! Am I correct in understanding that if I purchase the 'Professional' subscription for $20, I will be able to send API requests specifying the LLM model GPT4omni mini in the request instead of 'llama-3.1-sonar-small-128k-online'?