#💬│general
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yeah i mean maybe.. but i'm doubtful (that would be insanely deceptive).. i think it's more the system prompt or some other implemenation/configuration on perplexity's side
yeah those screenshots show that it clearly has knowledge past 2023
I tested it all the way up to May. It knows things until April except for the Super Bowl
Maybe PPLX is just not into sports
Strange
So it’s def 3.5 then
cool thanks - seems the superbowl question is just weird thing that throws it off (with the perplexity hosted version)
yeah for sure
File a bug report
For some strange reason Perplexity's Claude seems consistently less smart than Claude.ai
nah it's all good - i just found that weird. but the better thing to do would have been to ask other questions about events that happened early 2024 (as you did 😅) . doesn't seem to be a fatal flaw so much as a quirk
but also the problem is Perplexity's sonnet 3.5 sticks to certain things without changing
I wonder do they use temperature = 0?
in everything
I am playing with the API and couldn't replicate the results
i don't quite understand - is it unique to sonnet 3.5? (e.g. dos the same problem happen with GPT-4o?)
not sure
I don’t really mess with the models in writing mode in Perplexity. I just stick to search.
does anyone know the hardware Anthropic is using for inference?
are they using TPU or Nvidia GPUs
whatever bedrock and vertex use ig? I don't think anthropic actually hosts the models
{
"model_name": "claude-3-5-sonnet-20240620",
"bedrock_name": "anthropic.claude-3-5-sonnet-20240620-v1:0",
"vertex_name": "claude-3-5-sonnet@20240620",
"supports_system_prompt": true,
"supports_images": true,
"max_tokens": 200000,
"warning_tokens": 90000
},
anyone here find sonnet better than gpt-4o?
are you bullish and going long on NVDA lol
I am skeptical if they are actually using this
no, just curious
everyone pls buy more NVDA so it collapses so I can buy more
Lol I'll stick with the semiconductor ETF as a hedge in case NVDA does collapse
I'm writing covered calls
Claude 3.5 Opus
Coming soon…
Training data cut-off Apr 2024
this means
at most they trained it for 2 months
if the projection is linear
then claude 3.5 opus will be the most intelligent LLM yet
and with all their doubling down on safety
i bet that it will be
their most powerful- and therefore political- product yet
Or, they retrained it near the end with more modern data.
retraining results in dumber models
also sonnet 3.5 is a bigger model than sonnet 3
sonnet 3.5 is in my experience as smart as opus
visual capability also
the entire agenda of NAIAc is to talk about "inclusivity"
nothing but lip service
is when they stopped training it / feeding it data (and started fining tuned it) right? I don't get where the 2 months comes from
ohh actually i do see you what you mean now
though i don't think the 'linear' assumption works. this is presumably a checkpoint towards 4. They periodically stop training them and see how they go (Gem 1.5 etc etc)
I already dug into this, the reason it says it only can give info from 2023 is because the system prompt is hardcoded to tell the model it's cutoff is December 2023, even if the model actually knows stuff until April 2024
i don't think it's on a roadmap with neat intervals
not sure but actually seems the superbowl question was just a weird quirk! #💬│general message
that was using 3.5 sonnet, which for some reason is being used even when I have pro disabled
I'm not complaining tho lol
free 3.5 sonnet is good
if you have an account and have chosen Sonnet as the model in settings, it will use that model regardless of if the Pro toggle is on or off
my account is a free account though
sonnet 3.5 seems to be a solid upgrade for scripting. got it correctly on first attempt, what other models before were consistently not managing to do, or rarely (gpt4t and o were forgetting output format; opus created a chart, but it was frowning)
does this have a sonnet badge / label at the bottom? when i view it there is nothing to suggest sonnet generated the response
no, but I can tell it's sonnet 3.5
because of the knowledge cutoff and overall style
it types like opus
aha oh right - it got the superbowl question right in that thread 🤦♂️
yeah true. not sure how to explain that otherwise
yours on the left, mine (not signed in) on the right. how does it get it (in writing mode)?
What is the base model for the free version of perplexity now that 3.5 sonnet is out and it was using 3 sonnet before? why isn't 3.5 sonnet the base now? What is it now?
Is sonnet 3.5 only available in the web browser for perplexity right now, not on Android app yet right
how are you using sonnet 3.5? I choose it and it get's this answer...
I believe before the free model was Haiku
Ok
Is Claude 3.5 Sonnet as horribly gate kept and nanny-fied with built-in overzealous handicapped safeguards on even innocuous topics that Claude 3 was/is, making it unusable?
Will Perplexity make OpenAI's Chat and Vision available when they're released
even more so
I guess it depends on how you use it, I love to use Opus, it is less gate kept than GPt4o imo and now I am using Somnet 3.5 and it’s great
I personally have not seen a Claude refusal in a while
most proprietary models are
is the ability to execute python a beta feature?
google models, openai models, anthropic models, they all have ridiculous levels of censorship
which is dumb since I'm pretty sure jailbreaks still work, they are just harder
Perplexity doesnt have the special interface like claude right? To use it for claude models specifically?
If you are talking about the new “Artifacts” feature, it’s only in the Official Anthropic Claude Pro site
not sure if it's called artifcats, but the split screen thing where it's coding in one and answering in the other window.
Yeah, sounds like that is what you are talking about, so perplexity dose not give that, only the official Claude site
yeah Anthropic wants my phone number, fk that.
Yeah agreed. Prepaid SIM is the only way to deal with them
It's to deter hackers
Sucks for us, but isn't crazy ask either given what hacking groups have done in the past
Yeah but is it even worth it though
Privacy invasion is always justified this way. Agree it is a problem. Just wish they'd solve the problem other ways
Unfortunately that's the nature of the beast... The harder it is to spoof the more secure, but things that are hard to spoof are generally more personal/invasive of a person's privacy.
Given that it is literally impossible to create an "ultimate firewall" or security system to block out all hackers without any information on the users' part...
It's finding a balance.
The closest thing to an impenetrable firewall would be one requiring a SSN linked to a verified physical address and phone number.
Didn’t read it because paywall
They seem mad
lol
Paywall? Anyways, wasted time, even if I summarized it with ai. Does the article say that ai hallucinations are now illegal? lol
Or it was my english?
Understandable, bcoz the ad revenue. But they probably don't care that google is doing it
I mean, the instant answer and anything they offer now
Just the perplexity and other minor companies get noticed, whales are ignored somehow. For obvious reasons
this is the plagiarism they are complaining about
they linked it in the article
i feel like when you specifically ask for a summary of an article, you shouldn't get mad that it gives you a summary of an article
Lol
If you go to a restaurant, order a meal, and then someone posts pictures or a review of what the meal was... The poster didn't make the food and the Chef wasn't given credit... But it plagiarism for posting the created food and giving a review of its taste, quality, ingredients, etc. without mentioning the Chef/Restaurant?
If we liken a news service or site to a restaurant and the journalists as Chefs then you could say Perplexity is akin to a food critic.
but chefs just cook things
sure some might create something 'new', but usually they;re just making pasta or whatever
not everyone is in a warzone reporting, or going through trash investigating
it's proprietary
Journalists, by definition, just post existing knowledge in a readable format with their opinion mixed into it. What is happening is not a secret.
by definition?
The stuff in Gaza happens regardless of a journalist covering it.
existing knowledge?
gaza is a terrible example - it's one of the most widely covered events in the world
That's exactly the point
ther's all kinds of investigative journalism that surface things that wouldn't otherwise be surfcace
you're cofusing 'reporting news' with 'journalism'
news doesn't manifest out of thin air
even with twitter
But neither does news create the events in question
I think perplexity should be careful about direct plagiarism (they mention it in the article that the perplexity summary did almost completely copy a sentence from the original article) but I don't think that summarization is a thing that should be banned. Heck, news outlets do it all the time, with CNN reporting something that ABC broke the story on, etc
or the verge reporting on a Kuo report
this is what kicked it all off.. it isn't run-of-the-mill reporting about stuff everyone knows - it was a 'scoop', an 'exclusive' https://www.forbes.com/sites/randalllane/2024/06/11/why-perplexitys-cynical-theft-represents-everything-that-could-go-wrong-with-ai/
The biggest issue there is bypassing the robot.txt stuff, which I completely agree is an issue.
I barely use google, but iirc they had exactly the same thing with the instant answer. They copy a paragraph from article and put it on their search page, with highlight on what's relevant. And they have the q&a which is basically the same thing. But it's the minor players who are bad, as always
But beyond that it really doesn't bother me as long as stuff is cited.
yes absolutely
pplx went wrong with Pages though
because it looks like a news-article type thing
dunno why they didn't just stick to search
I haven't looked at, or messed with pages. If the page has citations then I don't see the issue unless those citations are from content meant to be locked behind robot.txt protocol.
100% agree. Some people here really like the discover tab, but if I were CEO, i'd probably drop it.
AI acts as a easy way to consume information, it can quickly read 20 articles and give you 1 article, but if this is the prefers method moving forward how is the sites containing the information rewarded, I really don't know
Half the crap on Kotaku or IGN starts with them saying something like... "in reference to this article by ThisOtherSite"
True
I agree
but there is some actual journalism going on, at the very bottom of it all
And if that content isn't locked behind robot.txt and is cited by Perplexity... I don't see the problem
Maybe the future will benefit those doing the hard work, and AI will aggregate it 🤷
i think AI and journalism go really well togther (Language models after all)
but yeah the whole industry is on the front foot
they got burnt with the internet
and google news / aggregators
they're like "not again"...
So the true journalists getting the information and investigating will get a cut while the way you consume it is via conversation
Btw, some nice good news for today~
https://www.goodnewsnetwork.org/robot-mimics-human-sense-of-touch-to-better-sort-through-litter/
Big deal for AI and prosthetics
=3
I will ask ai to summarize it 😆
keke
No but I went to the site, but also I have ad block so I am not helping them, haha
So I guess it dose not matter if I use ai or not
Yeeaaaah
uBlock Origin is just required for me these days...
I have 37 filter lists :S
On brave I just checked all of the filters that were English
20 of them are custom ~_~
What is custom about it?
3rd party I mean
That a lot
It works, slows sites a smidge, but no ads.
I think Braves list is pretty robust, have not seen an ad in a while, but I looks like you have some stuff outside of plain ad block
Brave is good about it, ye
I wonder how ubo stays so fast with millions of filters
NO IDEA, but I'm glad it works without destroying speed
The sad thing is the amount of things needing to be blocked. Easily over 200k things blocked in total.
Now that is plagiarism/copyright violation kek
It's a very addictive game
I used to play it a lot
Have you tried the actual game before?
Yeah, you are not kidding, It is super addictive, haha
But fun
And something that can just run in the background
Yeah
It's the worst thing for someone with ADHD
Fr
Me: <Working with CC in background on a tab>
[A few minutes pass]
Me: I should check on CC, just in case.
Lol, and then there are cookies that pop ou for you to click and bonuses that makes it worse
And now Claude is dragging me back in 😈
Claude made it worse
when is claude 3.5 sonnet coming to perplexity?
bet it all away
it is already
yesterday noon ish
oh that is awesome
would have to switch back to perplexity again this month
gave chatgpt plus a try
missing the claude goodness and the 5 usd api credit
🙂
missing perplexity pro
At least now the best Claude model is not 50 per 24h, that will be later this year when Opus 3.5 comes out and is at 50 still, haha
so far 3.5 has been great
how is it for programming in python and typescript/react or nextjs
has anyone tried it
I have been making little react games with it, lol
I think so, <Code> says it is better than GPT4o and Opus
yeah the benchmarks say so
Artifact is such a great feature
probably like gpt4o
smaller model but the checkpoint went further
opus 3.5 is gonna be crazy
I am honestly suprised that claude did not say no to making cookie clicker into a gambling game, lol
lmao
what is the limit on 3.5 sonnet
is it unlimited?
or 500
same limit as opus i think
isnt it free on claude ai site though?
whereas opus isnt
does anyone know
it's cheapre than opus so surely the limit is higher
sonnet ratelimited me just like opus
i think its still being fine tuned a bit
No, on pplx sonnet 3.5 is 600 per 24h, so you are good to use it all day. and yes its free on the site but with limted usage and context windows.
Is perplexity not pulling any sources from the internet for anyone else? Pro search isn't working at all
I will check
Pro or not Pro search
works with both for me
Huh, I'll have to try again. It was with pro search
Wasn't working on either my phone or laptop, will give another go
Strange
lets effing gooooooooooo
if perplexity was double the price it'd still be more worth than any other ai services, for me atleast
It dose provide a lot, especially with the extension, pretty awesome
It is, its much better at that
Right now just chromium browsers, i don’t think that safari is chromium
Oh, they have their own app store for extensions, never knew, haha
@orchid shore Still not working?
interesting take
do u already have some background in react and css?
None
It made a working game first try, them I had it it make changes and add features
wow, it looks great. did it follow well all the specs that u gave it for how it should look?
I did not give it very specific instructions, so I'm not sure, I just wanted to see what it would make
from my experience trying to make 1 simple react game i notice that llms struggle to do the visual aspect when i describe it in text. maybe if they were visually prompted it might help but i havnt had the chance to prompt it that way yet
Hey, is there any effort underway to improve stability of the "search directly from address bar" functionality? I swear, 1 out of every 4 queries actually go through when I try to use it.
I also noticed this, it depends on the query content. add ALWAYS TRIGGER SEARCH to query solved it for me
hi, we can't link Sign In With Apple after creating a account through email anymore, can we?
would be a nice thing to add
I kinda wonder how does perplexity make money
do they have much lower rates on APIs from OpenAI and Anthropic?
otherwise there's no way 20 bucks per month covers the cost
is this chatgpt?
Yes but i use gpt with perpelxity
and i have the same problems
it's possible that chatgpt and Perplexity use two different math parsers. However, most of the time, it's the LLM's fault for messing up the format. This includes:
- Not using the correct delimiters ($ or $$)
- Failing to correctly wrap math equations
ok
you have solution ?
they pay for most models in provisioned throughput on aws and azure instead of per request
and then they just rely on the balancing of users who barely use it and userd who use all their requests
and or big vc money
This is a problem because there's no need to visit these original websites. Everything is wrapped up in one place for you. All the news, whatever you want. If the scale of this is small, it's not noticeable, but if the scale increases, who will visit these original sites and drive traffic that generates profits / benefits?
Citations don't solve the problem. Citing sources this way is fine when you're making school presentations. What benefits do citations bring to website creators if nobody will actually visit these sites, since the engine has gathered so much information that there's no need to even click on these links? 😃
Actually I do check out sources sometimes
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sadly no. that's a userscript + backend in nodejs which can execute stuff in docker, essentially a "code interpreter" run locally (on user's pc) hacked on top of perplexity (#😎│cool-projects message). I don't think pplx is planning anything like that, but it looks anthropic is (at least their wording seems to suggest it)
have you tried what aabb360 suggested over at quick-questions? simplest fix seems to be to enable the "pro" mode (pro search toggle; its system prompt fixed the issue in majority of cases). another option is to instruct the LLM better/proper math format (either at the end of your query or you could try adding it to your "ai profile") #⚡│ask-community message . it looks like it's working. omni, without: https://www.perplexity.ai/search/Given-the-matrix-j.69k6ZlQHuauvaeWKpp.A with: https://www.perplexity.ai/search/Given-the-matrix-FzkcXnuDQ6m.qwyH6P4Gzg
Are we ever gonna get a higher Opus limit?
50 is... still quite low
I'd love to have 100
oh wow this is nice
yes i use pro i dont understand without omni is working ?
the new sonnet 3.5 so far looks quite capable. it feels similar to opus, but I haven't tested it that much yet. and I have read it's virtually unlimited, at 600/day on pplx
yea I currently use that but eventually we will get 3.5 Opus
not sure when, most likely soon
well, the new sonnet doesn't use math blocks, so technically it's working better compared to omni (not mangled response) but not as nice formatted. edit: sonnet - https://www.perplexity.ai/search/Given-the-matrix-RpQx3KJrT52mWatfuPOCdg . you can see in the followup prompt you can ask him to format it better and I think he does a pretty fine job
it's pretty wild, sonnet, a "medium" model in half a generation (3 -> 3.5) seems to surpass the largest model in same generation, opus. already it looks like new sonnet is better at programming than omni, can't imagine what new opus will be like 😄
can i use this pro version on multiple devices? basically ive 2 laptops so i want to use them on both?
no limit on number of devices
ok nice
why is perplexity not generating images? Do I have to use somewhere iddferent?
Hi guys does anyone know what to do when you are stuck on "Understanding Question" and it's just constantly spinning?
is 3.5 opus going to likely be as expensive as 3 opus and also capped to 50
and what's the reason that they take away models like sonnet 3 and gpt 4 turbo
and does the limits reset 24 hours after you first used it, or just at midnight?
who knows
can't have / serve everything ig, though not sure
the former
is sonar 32k or gpt 4 omni better at writing like a human
alright thanks
try and you shall find out 🙂
though ig prob sonar, as it's based on llama3 (which seems less rigid / formulaic than the GPTs) - though i'm really not sure (it's subjective after all)
alr thanks
np
I am going to attend an incubation meeting in a few hours. I want to know what would be a typical ask from the incubator side when they are trying to develop or fund an ed-tech start-up.
Especially one with a single non-technical founder, whose expertise lay in research and design.
Is it possible to get the Chrome/Edge browser extension to gain access to webpages requiring login?
I would like the extension to be able to read the webpage content off the browser rather than copy and crawl the link separately not getting access to the content behind payment walls.
saw a guy on twitter posting about sonnet's shader skills, and yeah, it is a significant upgrade. it was very hard in turbo and omni getting something working, sonnet 3.5 seems to have high success rate and many creations are quite good 🔥 (edit: gifs are a bit messed up by discord...)
Maybe Claude wants to remove captcha.
is there a way to get support from perplexity staff here?
Okay is the iOS app just broken? It has given me a connection timeout error for well over a month now while the website works fine
Realistically i think they just did a bit of fine tuning
feels like you could do something similiar with 3 opus or 4o
I give it a month before they utter nuke/neuter its capabilities and drop it down
Is anyone here on mobile, IOS
I honestly feel like the gameplan for a every single company (including perplexity) is to do the following
• release near-perfect model to top the benchmarks
• let it run for a couple weeks and collect very valuable use case data from users push it to the extreme
• suddenly push an update, thereby cratering the capabilities
• train the next model off that newly collected data
• rinse and repeat
I feel like the neutering thing serves as a fallback option where if they know they gotta release something and a truly better product isn’t ready they can re-release it under new name
I am currently on mobile as of writing this message
Do you have issues with threads
Because every time I click on a old thread of mine it crashes after a minute
Mobile doesn’t work for me
Rip
The app literally just refuses to work
Ok it gives me some calm.
It’ll accept a prompt but immediately push a connection timeout in ~3 seconds
I thought it was only me
Also to it pushes the app when I do the safari
Hmm, can’t relate as I use DDG
Like I be on the webpage for safari to continue my story but after a while it tells me I need to download the app.
guess i’ll have to do exactly not this with my product then 🔥👍
But yeah it’s interesting how all the big companies don’t really care anymore…
iOS app for me on 18.0 Beta works fine. Only had trouble when my 15 Pro was connected to VPN. Curious what’s causing it for you.
yeah website and app work for me on 18DB1 too
I’m on iPhone 13 and on the 17.5.1 update
For iOS
Idk what version the app is on that I have rn
It’s all about benchmarks
They don’t care about how it performs as long as they get the “X company’s new model beats X model” and user data
This is the current one I’m running for the app
Good! I feel like basically any company that has any sort of measurable market share in the ai field does this. I miss the late late 2022- early 2023 ChatGPT
And the first month of GPT-4
I honestly think those are the 2 only examples of raw power from a massively-distributed LLM. Everything since (even from OpenAI themselves) has all been about coming out strong and immediately backpedaling
I’m looking more into providing a service that abstracts oh this model that model and just focuses on quality
Who cares if it’s claude 3.5 or llama 7b if the quality is great, in theory, right?
I agree! If your model can actually give me good and accurate numbers I’d dump even perplexity for it. Perplexity is just as bad as ChatGPT search when it comes to giving me exact numerical values
mainly focusing on web grounded like perplexity, but with an api of equivalent for developers and integration
Not sure how the costs will scale yet as i plan to use multiple models and routing/agents in a request
Quick question before I go. Am I running the correct build for the perplexity app?
later i’ll do code interpreter,bring your own files and other features - it’s a slow path there
For example, I tried to get Toyota sales figures from the last quarters from perplexity in the United States (I made it very clear to specify that) and it gave me the worldwide numbers again and again and indicated it was correct. Well guess what, I clicked on the sources and sure enough the worldwide figures were at the top and it failed to use context and find the breakdown by region just 2 paragraphs down
Yup i’m on the same one
You are
Ok because every time I try to open a thread I made it crashes.
I was able to get an agent with quality of perplexity’s “new” pro search made as an MVP in a week which was peter promising
Was the main thing that lead me to start the project actually
Idc what it costs as long as it is reasonable because for my concerns an actually reliable search function that gives correct values is almost priceless
Saw some potential in that
Awesome!
Could try reinstalling - seems to work for me so not sure
Definitely keep it up because no offense perplexity seems more interested in partnering with as many companies as they can rather than fixing the core process lmao
yup i got no vc money so i’m riding off cost per request and free aws tier/ credit for now
That wired article definitely got the mods on the subreddit active for sure
I honestly forget it exists half the time lmao
hey! is there a tutorial on how to implement perplexity's api into a search engine? I want perplexity to kind of operate similarly to google's gemini or bard (by spitting out the answer as well as returning out the search results). If anyone could link me to some helpful information or tutorials that would be greatly appreciated!
Apart from Google and Meta, AI startups Anthropic and Perplexity have also been in discussions with Apple to bring their generative AI to Apple Intelligence, the Journal reported, citing people familiar with the matter
https://www.reuters.com/technology/apple-meta-have-discussed-an-ai-partnership-wsj-reports-2024-06-23/
There is a simple way to add perplexity to your google browser as an add on. I use it all the time. If that is what you are asking. There are instructions online to make that happen. I find myself using that when I need answers to my questions instead of opening up a new window and doing a search.
is the site working rn?
Generated by Perplexity for use as a possible book cover.
I'm loving perplexity.ai. I have come to use it very often, I love how it formats things with citations and also how it doesn't "hallucinate" as much as other platforms I use. It is more willing to tell you that it can't find something, and I appreciate that
okay, can you tell me what that is?
iOS cant log in cant log in cant log in!!!
I swear this is the worst login system I've ever seen.
Are there plans to add sonet 3.5 to perplexity? Was there any info about it lately?
already added.
just the displayed name on mobile might not uptodate
lmao
Great. Thanks for info! I wasn't seeing it yesterday but now it is there
Is there a limit cap for Sonnet 3.5 for Perplexity Pro?
600/24h
IMPORTANT: I am not exaggerating when I say I have used every (yes, every) LLM that has been released in the last 2 years, for my full time career ~40-70 hours weekly... and I have NEVER in all that time, used anything as worthless, overly muzzled, CRAZY-LEVEL handicapped and censored... as Claude 3.5 Sonnet.
In fact, nothing else — and I'm even including Gemini iterations — even COMES CLOSE to this dumpster fire of ENORMOUS proportions.
I have tested, and tested more, it's functionality and output bias, and found EVEN ON INNOCUOUS subjects, it is so obnoxiously dysfunctional, I cannot craft the words to explain how ridiculous it is.
Anthropic is a completely psychopathic paranoid fireball example of why no one likes the nanny following them around for “wrong thought” and slapping their hands and wagging their finger at them.
IT IS, OBJECTIVELY & TRULY, A USELESS RELIC, THAT CAUSES FAR MORE NEEDLESS FRUSTRATION that anyone can comprehend.
Right now, GPT 4 Omni (although, like OpenAI often does with hype, it isn't Omni at all yet).
I can detect GPT from a mile away with it's use of vocabulary and rote cliches, but at least is usually does what it's told and is useful. Not like the "I WON'T COMPLY" brainless unhinged zombie that Anthropic and their "so great, oh wow, it beat everything!" fanboy mouth foaming hysteria this week.
and yet it is the smartest model thus far and you have neither the engineering skills nor money to build something better
of course they would lock it down
LOL, here comes the boomers to defend their "muh best benchmarks" with their fallacious tired ad homs and appeals to possibility to poison the well. SO PREDICTABLE! Haha, you couldn't refute or rebut my objective assertions so you swoop in pecking at your keyboard hahahahaha
they dont want to be exhibit A in the butlerian jihad
xd wtf
I speak English, come back when you're better at cogently defending your "point" lol
mods
i cannot craft the words to explain how ridiculous your point is @hardy willow
claude is so bad
but i have to agree that the llm is really superior
The only reason you would say claude is bad is if you have absurdly stupid purposes for it
like yeah ofc theyre not gonna make it fully open sourced
and like accessible to the mass
it's perfectly suited to coding, math, and quite a bit of engineering work
i just dont like how companies put locks on these things like we could literally educate everyone with this technology
shareholder interests i guess...
disengenious reasoning, literally ai is being used to educate people right now
yeah i was decently surprised with its coding
and reasoning too
ofc but imagine if claude's full capabilities could be accessed in every single classroom
it can
and also foreign countries too with limited resources
claude has an API/token rate
interesting criticism. So your concern is that it has too much like boilerplate explanation that it wastes context with? How is it at hallucination?
I haven't used claude that much but I was impressed with the suggestion it made for a photoshop question I had, it included a solution that seemed creative whereas ChatGPT suggested a very iterative solution that would have required a lot of work.
It may have just been trained on some data that included the solution though
I don't know if this is the place to discuss this, but what do you guys think of the state of the AI browsing capability in terms of the technology as a whole available today? For example, one thing that surprised me when I was talking with ChatGPT was I was asking it for all the words in English that ended with a certain ending (admittedly subjective depending on what words you consider part of English), and it was really hemming and hawing about giving an answer, so finally I was just like "Go search a scrabble dictionary" and it was like "I can't submit forms" and I was surprised by that
anyone got good tips to get most out of perplexitiy for marketing strategy purposes? do people just use it to prove gut feeligns?
Can the new MoA thing be implemented in the labs? What do yall think?
Like what exactly do you have in mind? What particular aspect?
Sorry but why cant I link my rabbit to perplexity?
what was the point of giving me the subscription?
Im about to toss my rabbit in the trash.
perplexity looks like it's plugged into Claude 3.5 Sonnet, why does it look like claude2 to me from the json?
Maybe they haven't updated their backend, so for anthropic they are still using claude2 as the key for it.
After all, they are still using copilot, when on the UI it's now called pro search.
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Hello sometime when i ask question i have the same output in the same chat
hey guys, is there any disadvantages (besides plug in integration) to subscribe to perplexity pro vs open ai / claude.ai subscription?
Only one that I can think of is lack of code interpreter, but only chatGPT has it
Cool! im not a coder anyway so that doesnt really affect my decision. Thank you
I am totally in love with perplexity ❤️
Glad that you like it, I also switched over to it when I found out it had both gpt 4 and claude opus, it’s cool to switch between both
Should have done it a long while ago 
not so quick: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iDlM0cYS9Zs
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Well its all true. My Rabbit r1 arrived about 30 mins agoi after waiting almost 5 months for it to arrive, I was as underwelmed as I thought I would be. 30 Mins later I think I will flash it with the Android above and give it to my 6 year old daughter as a play thing. good job I bought it for the free year of Perplexity Pro and not the device. the Annual subscription cost me $200, instead of $240. thats a bargin for me and I have a free piece of hardware
Hi there, any chanche to use Perplexity API to search the web rather than the web-interface?
Lol the useless scam ever made xD
llama-3-sonar-*-32k-online
Thanks! So the sonaronline models do the web search/summary as ppxt web app
thanks!
you can give it to me 😇
like seriously if you want
similar as non pro search
from my testing, it only searches for 5 sites
U able to get a refund?
Instead of throwing it in the garbage lol
Today, I am getting 5 sources for all the questions. I am a pro customer. It used to be capped at 20, is it just me?
Same as well! And for some reason, Pro search has recently became very bad for me too, it completely fails to understand my prompt.
I asked what bus number I should take (in Thai), and Pro search thought I asked about hotel 💀
But without Pro search, it correctly gives me the bus number
If this is the case then pro subscription is not needed at all
Something is definitely wrong with current perplexity then. Hope they sought it out soon.
claude 3/3.5 sonnet is basically the new version of claude 2 and 2.1, kinda like how haiku is basically the new version of claude instant
does anyone know if we'll ever be able to send excel or other files to chatgpt4o on Perplexity?
did pro search just get a big update?
I'm seeing multiple steps get broken down now
a/b test ended -> global rollout ig
I'm getting this multiple step breakdown too, is it better than before? or is it strictly visual ?
slightly better than before
but worse for some queries due to "less sources"
also file uploads may be broken
unless they fixed it
Do you still keep to get perplexity subs? 🤣
I am glad i ordered that box because it opened me up to perplexity and I love how it helps me in daily life.
Also, theres projects people do to link rabbit journal to home automation etc using playwright etc. worth a try before throwing it out.
Day by day I’m glad I got a refund on my annual subscription
Anyone else having a bug where the UI language randomly changes to something other than English?
It seems like my browser randomly decided it should translate perplexity from english to french. Did I screw something up or what? I tried chrome too and it was translating to spanish.
I just came here to post the same question
Yes!
No, its some bug
I thought I was losing my mind
It says English, but it's in Spanish
I'm having that bug. It seems that the website is using any language except english.
It's not even stable at the language it's switching to
What are they testing this time? It was fine yesterday
I've switched to french, then english, then german, then english, then spanish, then english. Every time I switched to english, it stayed on the language it was on before.
German >> English? German
French >> English? French
You can use your browser translation to translate it back to English as a temporary fix.
I'm somewhat concerned I have to.
same! It was well worth it just for perplexity
Oi! me too!
I don't speak french
haha
c'est la vie though
Oh, it outputs in english. I'll carry on then haha
does it?
@rich bridge
Oh man. I’ve done that migration plenty of times
Ey, English UI is back!
Hi can anyone please explain what exactly pro search differ from normal search for paid user?
I've noticed that many features described for Pro Search in Perplexity website, such as LLM model selection and source citation, text summarize, seem available in the standard search as well.
Are there specific technical or functional advantages of Pro Search that aren't exactly written in the website? E.g. more sources? More optimize context windows? Agentic RAG? Etc.
hi. im new to perplexity. can someone guide me how to get GPT4 Turbo? im a pro user. thanks
turbo has been discontinued, you can use omni
thanks sir! appreciate your assistance
deep dive ➤ #💬│general message
I got to keep mine
Hello
does Aravind come on here
Hey folks, you know how many mac users were wanting a mac os app ?
If you have a mac and an iPhone. On the new beta OS updates, the iPhone mirroring feature is now available to use your iphone from the mac.
This enables the voice feature facility as well as other features from the iPhone app to be accessed using mac.
what's the MoA?
Hey guys wanted to use api
Works mostly just got a problem
The api don’t throw back citation and images is there reason why?
Working on api last 3 days to investigate
Is Perplexity Discover page working on your side?
On my side, it is 404.
Discover is back up on my iOS app but Safari browser model change is locked
I'm also facing that problem right now. I thought it was an issue with me logging in from two different places
The same thing is is happening to me, it says limit reached.
Ig we just gotta wait
Yep unfortunately.
I am facing the same issue and it's blocking me from working. Pretty sure it'll be fixed soon.
Realization: I really rely on Perplexity now! Lol
is the new multi step process actually better? One thing i liked about the old way was that it seemed to do the searches all at once and be much faster. Now it is so much slower to get a response
Shouldn't be much slower, depends on the model you're using.
download links do not work
Not sure if the steps are done by the model you select, or only the last part.
For what?
how can I create a download link in an prompt which has NOT Access denied
To download what?
I did ask to make a correction of an uploaded file
and then I asked to create a download link
then I got one but when I click on it I get access denied
I have the PRO subscribed version
Yep, it can't do that.
i see it online
And copy the output.
You can do that with chatgpt, but not with perplexity.
I see
do I have also subscrive chatpgt
do you have a linhke
for testing
thanks a lot
No, just upload the file, ask it to make changes, then ask it to create the file and give you a link to download it.
thanks
It seems we cannot create "Pages" anymore 😭 don't know if it's bug or they remove the feature, and didn't see anything about it
I think it can handle better some use cases (search for stuff it found during previous round of search, I don't think the previous search could do this multiple times), though I am not sure if it is better overall - it does feel slower to me as well
just sideload the ipa
on an apple sillicon mac
Seems to work for me
Oki it was a bug, it reappear now 😀
Guys, why is Pages so useless?
Does anyone actively use it?? I just tried a simple idea and it got images of stuff that had nothing to do with it.. guess that not being able to choose smarter models limits its potential…
What is happening with the platform? I am from Brazil and all the consultations I am doing for Perplexity he is looking only for in foreign sources.
For example, I want to know some procedure under Brazilian law. But Perplexity is not researching in Brazilian sources, but in American website sources.
It was usually for him to search with Portuguese terms and read data in Brazilian sources. But notice that you are searching in English and consulting sources in English.
it prioritizes the royalty free images
I’m able to search more than 5 sources again
Thank god
But now I’m not able to search Reddit
can't sign in on iOS
there are still issues on latex rendering
noticed the same for Italian searches, it only search in english providing irrelevant results
I don't understand. Can it be more specific?
Exactly. These last two days are like that.
Any answers to that? @halcyon coral
it uses images from unsplash
the license:
Unsplash grants you an irrevocable, nonexclusive, worldwide copyright license to download, copy, modify, distribute, perform, and use images from Unsplash for free, including for commercial purposes, without permission from or attributing the photographer or Unsplash.
But the problem I reported is not about images, but about the confusion that Perplexity is making when performing searches in English with results and sources in English little related to what I am looking for here in Brazil. I still use the Pro version.
ehh i replied to user Aghanim
https://www.perplexity.ai/settings/profile
check your settings
Oh, yeah. Sorry. There must have been some problem in my notification center that appeared your message as if you were replying to mine.
It is already configured as "Portuguese."
But it still continues to research as reported.
Don’t think it changes the sources location
#1254158052223881288 message
reply to him with the problematic threads
yeah me either.. which ever model processes the prompt, it seems to translate it to English now where previously it might've used the language of the prompt
Yeah, it doesn't change. About two days ago it was normal. He would pull both sources from my country and from another country if he thought it necessary. But now it's extracting results and searches exclusively in English, like a US Google.
share the threads here: https://discord.com/channels/1047197230748151888/1140622008086970420
Perfect placement. That's exactly what's happening.
perhaps a case of fix (/introduce) one thing, break another.. ?
funny because i made a search api in under 2 hours with any-language source support!!
maybe its related to the new pro search
that changed around 2 days ago for ~100%/larger rollout
ha nice!
incidentally, even though they're selling a product.. they provide what I think is a great description of RAG (and its limitations) ha
this function thing is quite interesting
yeah ikr
bge-reranker-v2-m3
but ig you pay to have it all as a suite, not have to tinker etc
this jina model only just beats it ha
wonder if i could finetune this
becuase this is actually quite interesting
and could be helpful for the llm thing
cause in theory right
what if instead of asking just a llama model to pick an agent
like i already am
have a list of agents! then rerank based on the query/"task"
wow... the dataset is only 1.2B
That's probably the case.
no shot for me it was trained on 96 A800 gpus
i wonder if i could deploy it somewhere though
Hello! I'm from Argentina 🇦🇷. I don't have free access to the "Perplexity Pages" feature. If I subscribe to the Pro plan, will this feature be unlocked? Or is the restriction due to my location in Argentina?
pro plan
I think it is a pro feature
its global tho im pretty sure
Not sure how I feel about the new 'Discover' page. I wish I could read the entire subject line of the smaller pages without clicking into them
is it possible to toggle the pro mode via a url flag?
for example i've been using https://www.perplexity.ai/search?q= but that results in non-pro seraches it seems
yeah i stumbled upon https://perplexity.ai/search?q=%s&copilot=true
but unfortunately the application doesn't support queries like that, it wants them in a format like url: https://perplexity.ai/search?q=
and i dont think i can apend with just docker compose yaml
guess i'll put a feature request in to https://gethomepage.dev/latest/widgets/info/search/
anyone also unable to Focus Search Reddit today?
Anthropic just dropped their custom GPT-esque offering
We have a ticket regarding Pro focus search the team is working on, but non Pro + Reddit should be working fine.
Oh great! That seems to have worked albeit limited to 5 reddit sources. My Pro search for Standard mode now returns a response with more than five sources like it was doing all day yesterday.
THX!
Is anyone having issues with the Chrome AI companion not summarizing today and just loading forever?
do the perplexity share links expire?
I don't think so, but if you attach a file as a source, the file(s) will disappear after 30 days
the new search is back and I love it again lol
Hi! What is Perplexity Pro's Context Window when using Claude 3.5 Sonnet?
About 32k tokens
If you want the full 200k you are better off using Claude Pro. But then you get significantly less usage per day, pros and cons
is there any reason for perplexity not having an IDE extension included with the sub?
I think they have a focus on consumers vs pro users, margins are much higher when targeting users that use it to search a few times a day. You could always use the $5 or free API usage, but that's not nearly as good as having GPT4o or Somnet 3.5
i think you didn't understand
i'm talking about an alternative to copilot, codeium, supermaven, cody, codewhisperer, google ai (forgot name), cursor, jetbrains ai, plandex ai
Hi - very bullish API user here, qq for folks.
Is there a citations date filter for online models via API? Note, I do not currently have beta access to return citations, but have requested.
I do see that there are some req params that are not in API spec on: https://docs.perplexity.ai/reference/post_chat_completions, such as search_domain filter (https://docs.perplexity.ai/discuss/66771f41eae9c90018796f5b), so thought id inquire on date filter. I am aware there might be one in development. Thanks.
Yeah that is what I thought you meant, those are still my thoughts, I could be wrong, but I believe it because they are focused on the consumer market and an IDE extension would be used a lot and likely cost more than $20 per month depending on the model provided and the rate they get the API at
When I mentioned the free API credit I meant you could use it in an already available IDE extension that lets you give an API key
Sorry if it's already been answered but is Claude 3.5 available on Android?
Awesome thanks so much 🙏
iOS app crashed when generating code from an image uploaded
I've been asking Perplexity for an analysis and recco of good baseball matchups to watch on a nightly basis and it's been great at recommending potentially entertaining matches. Now it's providing info from older dates and I've had this same issue before.
Why is there no more GPT 4?
I think the goal is less option is less confusing to the average user, I sent you more info in a dm
Plus GPT4o is cheaper to serve compared to GPT4T
is it just me imagining things or did pro search get better recently?
You probably got access to their new agentic search
oh yeah that's probably why
it's listing out the different queries it needs to make to answer a question
It will have multi step searches
Yeah exactly
Its a nice upgrade
definitely a significant upgrade over hallucinating because it didn't search for everything it needed
Perplexity can't detect my attached text file
Hi I was wondering if anyone knows how to get the perplexity ai to perform the search function. so for example a new car could have come out this week and I could say "what are the details on this new car" and it will respond with the details?
it seems to work. add this to your widget.yaml file
- search:
provider: custom
url: https://www.perplexity.ai/search?focus=internet&copilot=true&q=
target: _blank
focus: true
homepage is interesting btw
yup its pretty neat, i debated a long time between homepage and dashy and finally settled on homepage because of all the api integrations
how can i contact staff to change the email address on my account? i lost access to it
Can perplexity visualize mermaid diagram which is generated by perplexity?
how can you do that
Oh wow, can these researchers possibly be anything other than "mistaken" ?
https://entertainment.slashdot.org/story/24/06/26/001222/researchers-upend-ai-status-quo-by-eliminating-matrix-multiplication-in-llms
Researchers from UC Santa Cruz, UC Davis, LuxiTech, and Soochow University have developed a new method to run AI language models more efficiently by eliminating matrix multiplication, potentially reducing the environmental impact and operational costs of AI systems. Ars Technica's Benj Edwards repor...
The new Pro search is really good, although too bad it breaks support for other languages, I hope they fix it soon
I dumbed down the article for my smol brain:
But these clever scientists found a new way to make the sandwich that's much simpler. Instead of using all those ingredients and mixing them, they figured out how to make a tasty sandwich using just one super-ingredient. Whoosh! *makes a swooshing sound* It's like magic!
This new way of making AI sandwiches (we'll call them "smart sandwiches") is much easier and uses way less energy. You know how our big, fancy fridge in the kitchen uses a lot of electricity? Well, the old way of making AI work is like using that big fridge. But this new way? It's more like using a tiny lunchbox cooler. Bzzt! *imitates small electric hum*
The scientists think this could be really important because:
1. It could make AI easier to use on smaller devices, like our phones.
2. It might save a lot of energy, which is good for the planet. Yay, Earth! *makes cheerful chirping sound*
3. It could make AI cheaper to run, so more people could use it.
They even think that if they make these "smart sandwiches" really, really big, they might work better than the old way of doing things. But they need more powerful kitchen tools (or in real terms, more powerful computers) to test this out.```
Who needs r/ExplainItLikeIm5 when you got AI :D
ai does all the worst parts of my job and i look like a goddamn hero. i love it
Its seriously mind-blowing what times we live in
how much is it ?
for mini-128k
$0.3/mtok input $0.9/mtok output
however its also been down for the last month 😐
0% uptime
i wanted to use it but guess not
going to probably just use mistral 7b 0.3 on lepton now
$0.07/mtok i/o
and 100-200tps
when did perlexity block VPNs to prevent spam and abuse
deepinfra has medium 4k for 0.14/m and has planned for medium 128k
whats speed like though
from the start they use cloudflare enterprise
Latency
0.45s
Throughput
67.88t/s
according to 3rd party
medium 128k ?
context?
on the horizon
Anyone else not able to access their previous thread history on the perplexity pro Android app? Everything else on the app is working great except for that and I can't get to any of my archived conversations. But I can on the website
is it slow now?
wow!!! breakthrough!!! (sarcastic towards pplx, not you)
no
tbh its not like if the original 20 is the limit anyways
then again
number of sources doesnt correlate to quality
one query which pplx has never properly solved, is asking it to look through about 20 online pdfs and identify which ones contain something specific
their summarisation just ruins it and the end model 100% hallucinated the response every time i tried
oh my beloved... nextjs error boundary in pplx production
these days I think the quality of responses from pplx and chatgpt browsing is similar
chatgpt browsing used to be terrible
cant wait to beat them both with whatever im cooking 😇
right now ive been sitting in this tldraw document for a hour figuring out how to handle different types of request lol
the main challenge is follow up questions ngl
I think they also kinda was able to send a lot more text to the model
thats what im trying to avoid with my architecture
sending tons of sources to gpt4o/sonnet-3.5
because then, im going to go broke
an attempt at having "which sources" used for each step/final reply for a query.
can i ask you something
when you enable the feature flags on client-side ( through localStorage ), do you override the objects and designMode etc...
how do you make it presistent?
i ovveride the api route response
response or request?
didnt know there was this option lol
alr thanks
How to create graphs in perplexity? This is one generated in chatgpt app. I have tried but i couldn't find any way
ask model to output in mermaid code block
Should i select writing in focus or let it be default?
Hey can anyone point towards any open, prompt directory that can be used with the latest agent-ised perplexity pro search ?
Any advice on how to use Perplexity for Product Line Management?
Hi greetings from india.I am new to this perplexity.ai thing.kindly help me solve this issue.I am using perplexity pro on chrome,recently i clicked convert to page button and to my surprise 6 hour long important discursion got converted to very small 3 paragraph( hardly 5% info) page. how can i undo this to previous page long discussion.there were many chemistry equations for making manganese phosphate,zinc phosphate bath for coating on steel ie Parkerizing,activating steel surface and many more .it was long discussion so i don't remember all topic.pls help me with this i will be very greatful to you all.Thanks and regards
Is Sonnet limit +500? How does it compare to Claude.ai? Do you see comparable performance (without artifacts)? Is the context 32k?
Can someone answer these questions and share their referral pls?
Limit is 600 per day with 32k context, and sure here is mine: https://perplexity.ai/pro?referral_code=B9OIC6JL
On Claude pro you get 45 per 5h when using low context but when using high context I get about 15 per 5h
I have both and love both
Some are complaining it is less creative, its hard to say because its kinda an subjective measurement, but from my experience it seems that the temperature is set low here leading to more redundant or less “creative”outputs
Depends on how often you need it I guess, and if the context window is a a big deal
Hopefully the 32k context of pplx is real (the transparency around it vs RAG is not that great). I just used your referral thanks for the info!
No problem! 🙂 and I agree, transparency has been a problem for a while now, I think its 32k, I just know its not full 200k, haha
What would a 32k query even look like
Like a non file upload 32k query
any ideas
and in theory not including output tokens or including the previous conversation either
Like web search? Bc normally I use long context by pasting a bunch of text or a file
what i’m thinking is that in theory, “context length” on its own with something like perplexity or uncovr doesn’t make sense really since there’s more than one model behind the scenes anyway
It would be more like max 4-8k of instructions and the rest would become file uploads
And then anything the model needs like web search doesn’t really count to context since it isn’t just one model
behind the scenes sure it could be hitting a high number on the 200k window of claude or 128k of 4o
But i think the 32k is reasonably very high
Unless they also apply this 32k to files?
idk
So would sources be kept in context or just the answers derived from those sources
Bc 32k in one search seems extreme, but over a bunch is more normal
I think it would depend on if the next question needed any new information from the file
Same thing interms of search - only make the searches that add new information
In that case 8-4k sounds like plenty
That’s sorta what i’m thinking tbh
break past the idea of models and “context length”
and just deliver a good experience
Context length on “instructions” could be like 4-8k but then after that file uploads are used as like knowledge that could be acted upon
The sources can be both beneficial and detrimental. While they can provide the model with a lot of useful information, they can also dilute the model's focus over time. So a focus on relevant sources whill keeping focus on conversation and objectives should be good
Sounces are the best and worst part of pplx, gives the modles a lot of info, but can also kill their focus at times
GPT4O vs Sonnet 3.5 experiences? For programming?
Apparently Sonnet 3.5 is beating it out in hugging face arena.
So far I say Sonnet 3.5 is better, it's been great since added and have not switched to GPT4o for anything yet
I'm waiting for SuperMaven to update their Jetbrains plugin and I'm excited to try the new chat features. Also bug fixes lol.
Gpt4o like not better sonnet right ._.
Hi, I am getting 5xx errors while talking to the perplexity API. Is there any status page that I can check on when the API server will be up?
same
WHy is there no status page about the API. I mean common guys this is very basic stuff if you are exposing API. Plus the APIs are charged. Please can we have this very very basic stuff somewhere.
Hey everyone, I'm wondering how could the image attach feature is in perplexity, can it really interpret the photos well? I'm mostly supplying a photo of, say, a piece of office furniture that has certain visible features like wheels, and I want it find similar products.
You could try but it may not be able to do what you’re looking for exactly
Google lens seems like a better tool for this task
@sleek vortex @warm cave thanks. I appreciate your candor.
Honestly, I love Perplexity. It's doing so well
I don't mean to sound obsequious but it's what I envisioned AI could really do when searching the web. I think a lot of it is about it being able to tell you that it can't do something or can't find something
Google's AI hallucinates a lot, and I realize it's a hazard of the technology, but it can be frustrating
Another question I have is, is it by design that I can't jump from the images in the app to links associated with the images?
Hello everyone, Has anybody lost the GPT-4 turbo in the settings?
they removed it
Why? Have they announced that?
I believe they did not. They removed gpt4 Turbo when they added claude 3.5 sonnet to perplexity.
I think they got rid of it because there are already better models in the app, like Claude 3.5 sonnet and GPT-4o. Also, GPT-4 Turbo is more expensive than both of those models, so they'd be losing money.
Is anyone still interested in seeing convo samples I generated for a reddit thread as it was being debated if you could have a convo with this, and just tbh im kind of shocked a lot of people don't know this isn't like google, you litelrally ask it, what you want.
i.e google search:Best buy
perplexity: Bestbuy website, and which is closest by me? And has "x" on discount
Even when I sign in with Apple, I still need email verification, which doesn't make sense
so about this
must javascript in ChatGPT be active to let a file be downloaded?
I have problems in download a corrected File there. The link is generated but when I want to copy it in a new browser window I just see void();
must javascript in ChatGPT be active to let a file be downloaded?
yes
since chatgpt is a client-side app (requires javascript for most functions)
They provide the image to the model but they dont actively search with the image, so possibly yes
Is it me or the OG GPT4 (not Turbo or 4o) and Opus were never beaten, at least at coding? WizLM2 is the only thing that comes close, but there's no single model that's better than those three. New Sonnet is also hopeless, after my tests
What am I doing wrong, is it just hype?
Now that's interesting for a morning read 👀
Granted, I think the problem could occur with any AI model that accesses the internet.
Gpt-4o is suck 😦
Honestly, they should add gpt3.5 then. There actually are scenarios where it's better than 4o when compared side-by-side. 4o only cares about keywords from your prompt
give an example?
3.5 Sonnet has been a lot better for me.
add to what ?
perplexity?
GPT4o ignores small stuff from prompts, while 3.5 doesn't. It shows when coding one-shot and doing language tasks. I don't have examples now, but I actually told friend to switch model to 3.5 (he had free plan) and the code started working
Perplexity
ah okay
btw, the current free model is haiku
for me, 4o has been better for everything compared to 3.5
in particular, I like how it writes longer stuff and doesn't refuse as often
yes but it's important for them to figure it out, cause having ai generated content cited is not great...
search engines in general have been declining
100% agree. I believe Perplexity will improve that. I personally havent noticed that occur with my usage but I can totally understand it happening to some queries.
i love perplexity
I love chatgpt and grok
Grok (kinda)
Cause it's lagging from time to time
why grok?
Cause of its humour and i can have more free speech there
is... is that a real captcha ?
I hope it's a joke 😄 saw it on x. but the UX would be terrible if the "correct" answer for a human is to respond with an empty field or an incorrect guess (also isn't it rather easy for a llm to learn to emulate an average human?). chatGPT just ignored the text and solved it step-by-step when prompted "solve it"
I think sonnet got confused, because he also got a result from wolfram?
if it is.. i would have failed hard
you mean ... you would have solved correctly the integration, so failed the captcha and proved to be an AI, or failed to solve the integration, thus proving you are a human and aced the captcha? 🙃
can't share the chatgpt thread (images are not supported...), but it looks like just applying few rules. I think, many years back when I was on college, I could have solved this. but not now 😅
interesting, this behaviour seems to be related to Claude 3.5 Sonnet. it can't help himself to comment on not solving it, even if instructed to ignore everything else from the image (only does so without a "no solve" comment in a followup). omni behaves the same as on ChatGPT, for "solve it" prompt proceeds directly to step-by-step solving without any comments
sure. Yeah I'm just very used to brittle interactions with web data like with ChatGPT, I dunno... somehow perplexity seems better, I haven't been using either for long though
Really? What tasks is it worse at than Chat GPT 4? I was wondering that myself, I figure the economies of 4o have to come from somewhere
Hello all
it tends to do better with word-play / riddles (and I occassionally hear people say they prefer it for coding, though i can't to speak to that..)
but overall they seem very similar, and for the cost and speed (and multi-modality.. whenever that actually gets released) of gpt-4o, i'm not sure using gpt-4-turbo for anything at scale could be justified
then again...
Does anyone know if claude 3 opus is still limited to 50 queries?
Still 50 a day
😦
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That is a work of art ✨
So I tried to generate image based on my prompt but somehow it keeps creating random images
is there something i am missing in settings?
ha yeah lol i mean it kinda literally is 😅
Lol, yeah it is, but still somewhat unique, but if van gogh was alive today we would 100% be suing
hey how are you guys, i wanted to know how privacy friendly perplexity is
i wouldn't blame him lol
It seems to be better than using chatGPT since it uses the enterprise api, I will send a DM with something related
@fading moth do you not use complexity?…
Oh, haha, makes sense
Sneak peak at upcoming feature:
The ones with errors are because sonnet messed up the syntax
Ohhh snazzy
🎩
Perplexity gonna start trying to hire feline.
They should try to hire him fr, lol
ah, mermaid charts. I remember it was quite a pain getting them to work in ailin 😅
Feline is the GOAT, renders automatically
I was trying to stay away from anything automatic tbh. fairly easy to break the page otherwise. but yeah, complexity seems to be much more user friendly. I focus more on the code interpreter part, e.g. let llm write code, execute it in local docker and then show results (markdown, pdf, image etc)
Nice, code I interpreter is a feature pplx definitely lacks, good thing to focus on
I think pplx vanilla could add at least html preview. it would be a bit weaker (eg no images from a shared folder, possibly generated from other pplx threads etc), but they could get a pr bump and would be very easy to use. I think with claude releasing the artifacts, it was quite shared on social media. but I might be in a programmer ai bubble 😁
perplexity implementation of artificats (even if just some kinda artifacts lite) would be an easy win imo
although... as ig highlighed above
cross-compatibility must be a nightmare...
they could start with something simpler. svg is probably more of a toy right now, but I could see rendering a csv as a table being useful for more users. a user can see preview and can easily download it. or maybe the other way around - ability to easily copy a markdown table as csv?
I think even chatGPT has rendering of charts/diagrams and tables integrated, no?
Hi, i've attached a file in one of my chat with perplexity, and it's now somehow trying to relate/refer this file for other questions which has nothing to do with the attached file. Is that expected behavior? How can I remove the file from chat/history?
Hey @jade burrow! Mares attached the link to the bug report, we are working on a fix. The fastest way to remove would be to delete the last answer based on the file in the thread.
@wraith crow
this guy monkey king is in my dms trying to advertise his flavor of the month "I’m reaching out because many people have been saying that Perplexity has been subpar in a lot of searches and providing inaccurate responses"
competing product
everyone knows building wrappers around LLMS and purporting to make them into agentic systems is crap
if you want an agentic ai build an agentic ai
perplexity's selling card is one low cost to get multiple flavors of BS so you can pick the BS you want and your BS machine will be auto prompted to search for evidence to make its BS more tangible
only problem with perplexity is that and i have noticed this a lot it will quickly lose context and not understand that followup interactions have to do with the previous input unless I add the phrase "this is a followup to previous discussion"
Whenever they fix [this](#1242575373288341605 message) you can just say a keyword like "#context" to shortcut your context reminder
Thanks for the ping, I saw he was getting flagged by discord as well. 
why does the app not work with a vpn anymore?
Hey @tame current! https://discord.com/channels/1047197230748151888/1232978227371442237
Hey! Did you guys remove GPT 4 Turbo off the models list?
Yes, @scarlet pewter. #1254246450498375721 message
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I am a fullstack and AI engineer with 4 years of experience.
Building website and developing chatbots, and finetunning chatbots is my main skills.
Please let me know if you need help from me.
Thank you
@signal hamlet hey I just read the announcement. I have a question regarding using Perplexity enterprise for Government. Are you utilizing any cloud services like AWS gov or Azure gov to host it on. What's the security like? Are there any concerns for entering PII or sensitive information, what are some ways to circumvent that?
Hey @stoic osprey, for detailed information about our security measures, data handling practices, and policies, please first check our Trust Center at https://trust.perplexity.ai/. If you have additional questions, our Enterprise team will be glad to cover them via enterprise@perplexity.ai.
Thank you Alex
does anyone know why chatGPT and Perplexity all of a sudden are saying they can't search reddit?
is this a temporary outage, or?
Was thinking to switch from openai to perplexity for code suggestions etc. - is there a way to use perplexity without RAG?
The 'Writing' focus / mode
Thanks!! 🙂
np!
are you sure writing focus (pro off) is without any RAG? I just tried uploading 2k tokens worth file and it hallucinated most of its contents. left/first is original, right/second is from upload. even the date is wrong...
In Writing mode (both with Pro on or off), nothing is meant to be retrieved from the internet – i'm quite sure that is what happens
but if you upload a file in Writing mode, the file is not actually included in the prompt / context window directly; rather, snippets from the file are retrieved (RAG) based on the prompt
iow yes RAG is likely the cause of the poor result (basically the LLM isn't actually seeing the full contents of the file, so it's making up things...) but not RAG in the sense that information from the web is being pulled and added to your prompts in Writing mode
Hi, I'm currently using the free plan of perplexity and I've been finding myself using it regularly, I'm wondering if there is anyone here that can tell me if it's worth it upgrading to the pro plan
Is pages a pro only feature?
grok sucks
That's your opinion
there's nothing special about grok beside it's lame humour
Well since it's lame then why is it special? 😂
Hello my preplexity pro account just expired. Are there any available promo code for previous pro user? or any promo code available currently?
Who's said it's special? are you high?
You said beside
google just released an open source-ish model that is 10 times smaller than Grok 1 in terms of parameter count.. even if grok has something going for it with humour.. the little information we information know about it suggests that its performance does not in any way correspond to the size of the model, esp compared to newer models
define beside
grok isn't special and it has lame humour.
That's your opinion
yes
Okay i get what that guy said.
But that's just his opinion.
He has his own i have my own
yes ofc 👍
when did i say its special?
no need to go around in circles lol
Nevermind, please shut up
I just made a grammar mistake
yeah agree to disagree might be a nicer way to put it.. .
ok guys
Has Perplexity blocked Cloudflare WARP? I can't log in to my account on the iOS Perplexity app after using WARP.
Perplexity is low-key my translator for gen-whatever slang
Imagine using grok because of “free speech”. ChatGPT isn’t going to beat you up for having a different opinion.
The AI is mean to me 😢
Also imagine being 314 billion parameters and scoring lower than a 9B parameter model on benchmarks
How many times can claude 3 opus be used every day now?
still capped at 50/every 24h
Okay, thank you.
I remember when it was a lot lower than 50
Yep, Started as 5, made it all the way up to 600 per day, then got dropped to 5 again and then got stepped up a few times to 50
A real roller coaster ride 😅😬
😅 Haha, yeah… 🎢📉
imagine opus 5 today
🥲
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the question is what do I use such power for?
Can claude 3.5 surf the web in pplx? or is it restricted to april 2024 as it says on the actual claude website?
It can surf the web
Any model you chose will be given web sources in web search mode (”all” mode)
Guys, any quick opinions about OmniPlex?
upload... your whole chat history on discord
as personality rag
(well do not do that with free tier lol)
This AI stuff is wack