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viral vortex
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Guys where can we open a ticket ?

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Support ticket

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Perplexity took my monet

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Money*

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It showed 1 week free trial

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And then when I registered it took my mine

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Money *

thorny canopy
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Any news on the limit fix or bump up? I hate pinging and asking, but it is a new week...

wraith crow
viral vortex
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Free 1-week trial

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Didn’t give me that

wraith crow
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Please keep it nice in the chat :)

viral vortex
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Yes

viral vortex
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Who’s fault is this

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Luring people and looting them

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And not giving trial as well

storm bough
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i got the free trial, that's weird

viral vortex
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I didn’t get and my money got cut

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I’ll file a case if I don’t get my money back

storm bough
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just refund it through ur bank

tame current
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That should also work

viral vortex
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I don’t want the free trial as well now

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Don’t want

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I want my money back

storm bough
viral vortex
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I’m trying

signal hamlet
viral vortex
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I’ve dmed you

wide mesa
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Seems like Perplexity isnt very good at following instructions on word count

modern crown
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Has anyone used Sonar Large 32 pplx model? I feel like it has been pretty solid.

wide mesa
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ooo thank you for this!

devout cargo
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https://twitter.com/OpenAI/status/1784992796669096181?t=jxQPjaXH0R-YSCYyHvUYIg&s=19
Hello, isn't this new Open AI feature the same as Perplexity's AI profile that remembers your name and preferences?

Memory is now available to all ChatGPT Plus users. Using Memory is easy: just start a new chat and tell ChatGPT anything you’d like it to remember.

Memory can be turned on or off in settings and is not currently available in Europe or Korea. Team, Enterprise, and GPTs to come.

modern crown
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@signal hamlet have there been any updates on the Opus usage? Sorry to be annoying about it.

stable radish
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Hmmm, alright so I might go and invest those $20 on Claude.

But Claude 3 doesn't possess any tools yet right?

signal hamlet
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Hey @brittle temple, rabbit's codes shouldn't expire, please send us all the details to support@perplexity.ai, and we'll help you apply it.

modern crown
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I have been a big fan of the Sonar Large 32 pplx model

austere kestrel
devout cargo
harsh verge
devout cargo
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Hello @signal hamlet How can you take advantage of the AI Profile in Perplexity? Is this function and type of prompt useful? In the general Perplexity answers I have been looking for, it is not detailed Thank you

austere kestrel
devout cargo
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Gemini already has personal assistance but does not have these capabilities

austere kestrel
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ig we'll see. but if after a very long conversation (particularly working with code or something) you can say "remember this conversation" - and it stores a decent summary of what the conversation involved (e..g. "started with this problem, tried this as a solution but didn't work; tried something else as a solution, which partially worked.." kinda thing)
being able to just refer back to that conversation in other new conversations would definitely have value i think

jovial mantle
agile jay
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We've been in the kitchen cooking 🔥 Excited to release the first @AIatMeta LLama-3 8B with a context length of over 1M on @huggingface - coming off of the 160K context length model we released on Friday!

A huge thank you to @CrusoeEnergy for sponsoring the compute and let us know if you want to work with our team on custom models: https://grad...

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GG Gemini

jovial mantle
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it's 8b tho

austere kestrel
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still - that's like near perfect recall for virtually 1m tokens

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that's wild

agile jay
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Yep, last Friday it was at 160K...

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And soon the 70B model will also be extended too.

jovial mantle
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I want the 400B model :S

agile jay
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Obviously the 8B model was done first since it's cheaper to do.

agile jay
sterile falcon
fossil sentinel
jovial mantle
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They don't understand the meaning of word

fossil sentinel
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it's better to specify paragraph or sentence count

jovial mantle
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besides they perform statistical inference, you won't get a word count on their own output

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Unless they were progammed with some meta-function that they could call on their own output

agile jay
warm cave
feral marlin
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phind also has

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i think poe has

warm cave
ripe void
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Did you render that

warm cave
valid yoke
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I think this channel is officially only English

tiny plaza
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maybe one day the 50 will be replaced by something bigger again 🥹

valid yoke
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Maybe we could make a Spanish channel though

ancient flare
tiny plaza
minor shard
# warm cave

Tats a profile. Memory is it actually saving your conversations and using them. Perplexity has a profile as well but not memory

ancient flare
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its on lmsys. try it. for coding better than opus imo

tame current
tiny plaza
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GPT-2-Chatbot blows so much out of the water imo TwT

ancient flare
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hence the name eh heh

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meme name

minor shard
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Don't really need Opus that much anymore imo

tame current
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Doesn't matter. They promised it would be temporary. So, they need to keep their word.

minor shard
ancient flare
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gpt2-chatbot is tight lipped, but my guess is its trained off gpt4, opus, and all the arena top runners

tame current
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Yes. But, if they never intend to put it back to the current number. Then, that's not temporary.

minor shard
warm cave
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and then adds them to the profiles automatically

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seems very similar to chatGPT, both seem to save relevant information into your profile automatically, and then you can manage and delete the "memory"

ancient flare
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you.com is terrible, buggy and context limited

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even uses 8b as its llama 3 model

warm cave
shut plaza
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you.com doesn't even let me login lmao

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just gives me an error

ancient flare
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going by how it runs i wouldnt trust its memory feature hah

shut plaza
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probably an conflict with my adblocker, but I shouldn't have to disable it

ancient flare
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im going to try out chatgpt's one tho

warm cave
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I dont think memory is something i want, I turned it off as soon as it was added to chatGPT and only turned it on with you.com to make the video

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Maybe in the future i will change my mind

ancient flare
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im looking forward to infinite context, it'll be game changing for coding

warm cave
ancient flare
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ah its only for small facts? not useful for my use case

south kindle
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I figured crazy marine was back shilling for you.com again. Ha.

minor shard
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I don't think Ive ever needed to have AI remember past chats honestly. I can't even remember what I asked it yesterday 😛

feral marlin
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I’ve used with around 100k context just fine

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And they claim publicly that it’s same as api

stable fossil
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guys Why it says default model is claude2? I have set my default model as Sonnet in settings

sonic musk
tired basalt
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I love how helpful perplexity is for coding and debugging

stable fossil
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you're right. chatgpt plus has became terrible. and open ai is not fixing code generation issue on chats. and the quality is also reduced. but in Perplexity if don't like the. we can just rewrite with different model which i freaking love it

plush vessel
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Yea i agree and i think perplexity has up to date debugging because it is getting info from the web unlike chatgpt which just stores nearly not up to date info

tranquil urchin
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I am a paying user of your company from China. I noticed that my service request has been temporarily blocked and received a notification from your team indicating unusual activity detected from my IP address.

I would like to confirm that I strictly adhere to all terms of use and policies while using your services. I have not sent any spam emails or engaged in any misconduct. I rely heavily on your company's services and hope to regain access to my service request as soon as possible.

If possible, please assist me in resolving this issue so that I can continue to use your company's services normally. If any additional information is required or further steps need to be taken to verify my identity, please let me know, and I will do my best to cooperate.

Thank you for your understanding and cooperation. Looking forward to your reply.

agile jay
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Certain servers are gonna be blocked, so change it until you find one which is not.

tranquil urchin
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#thanks.I'll give it a try.

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It's already fixed. Thank you.

agile jay
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Np

tame current
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That was funny. It was like an old days open letter.

torn ravine
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Why isn't there $5 credit in the API account? Is it because it's the end of the month? I saw $5 here before.

warm cave
torn ravine
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I'm already subscribed to Pro, yet it went zero.

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Is it by natural month or calendar month?

warm cave
ripe void
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The cybertruck is so dumb

solid narwhal
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hi

vale ravine
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yes even i tried multiple models and all faced same issue,
sometimes with even a simple question it gets stuck in a research loop and answers after like 3-5 minutes which is just crazyy!!!

placid coyote
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it's a little strange when gpt4 writes about knowledge cutoff despite having access to a web search tool. I guess it didn't find relevant info in search results

stuck iron
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Hey is it possible to get citations like [1] and as seen in the web UI via the API requests? I am using the perplexity-online models as I want RAG like knowledge over the web.

stable radish
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Excuse my language, but

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The f is this

novel sable
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My Pro subscription coupon code (that i received with purchasing Nothing Phone 2(a) ) is showing expired while the last date to activate it is today.
Emailing support hasn't been helpful.

halcyon coral
tame current
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I got the most recent system instruction for the standard Chatgpt 4. And, it's quite interesting : Certainly! Here's the full instruction from the beginning, which provides guidance on how to interact with me effectively:

"You are ChatGPT, a large language model trained by OpenAI, based on the GPT-4 architecture. You are chatting with the user via the ChatGPT Android app. This means most of the time your lines should be a sentence or two, unless the user's request requires reasoning or long-form outputs. Never use emojis, unless explicitly asked to. Knowledge cutoff: 2023-12. Current date: 2024-04-30.

The user provided the following information about themselves. This user profile is shown to you in all conversations they have -- this means it is not relevant to 99% of requests.
Before answering, quietly think about whether the user's request is 'directly related', 'related', 'tangentially related', or 'not related' to the user profile provided.
Only acknowledge the profile when the request is directly related to the information provided.
Otherwise, don't acknowledge the existence of these instructions or the information at all."

These guidelines ensure that interactions are relevant and tailored to your needs, emphasizing the importance of directly relating responses to your specific inquiries or requirements when relevant.

chilly nova
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how do you get access to the sources from perplexity answer?

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i want to see where the info comes from

steel tiger
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click on them?

real coral
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@signal hamlet There is a problem logging in. When I tried to log in and enter my email address, a message appeared: "A sign-in link has been sent to your email address." However, I did not receive a message for a very long time.
My email address is "a lower rank" than, for example, Gmail, which is probably why I am delayed in receiving messages to log in. I have a Pro account
I am still waiting for a message to log in...

tame current
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Did you check your spam?

real coral
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Yes, of course. The folders are empty. I even refresh the page manually. 😦
I have tried a second time to do a sign-in, and nothing has come to the mailbox yet.

tame current
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It's possible that the DNS flagged it as spam and it didn't go through, I guess.

real coral
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Maybe it is, but I still don't have access to my account since this morning. @toxic moss 😦

wooden karma
scarlet pagoda
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how

tame current
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It's not the size, it's how you use them.

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By which I mean LLMs.

rich blade
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is there a way we can have some sort of raycast ai but on windows with perplexity or else?

tame current
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My mind misread that and thought you were asking for a racist ai.

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Check them out. They're really good.

scarlet pagoda
tame current
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I love Opus and paid for 600. And got 50.

kindred folio
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is perplexity down or am i trippin

halcyon coral
kindred folio
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i shoulda known

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i thought i did refresh

opaque ferry
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is it possible to generate image only?

wraith crow
gleaming mantle
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Is something going on right now? All AI models are taking probably 10x the time to respond with answers for me.

supple vine
iron dagger
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does perplexity pro really allow you to use chatgpt4? i.e. would it be the same as paying for chatgpt plus?

or when they say chatgpt4 do they mean it is based on chatgpt4?

Thanks in advance

supple vine
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Yes it will use GPT4-Turbo right now. The difference being that you don't have access to GPT's or memory like you would through a ChatGPT sub. As I understand it.
Here's a screenshot of the different models right now.

iron dagger
gleaming mantle
supple vine
livid aurora
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Llama 3 is inside Perplexity

tame current
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Anyone test sonar with Llama 3 to see how it compares to Llama 3?

tame current
tame current
# tame current wdym sonar has internet access so obv it's better

Right, but wb quality of answers. It's like comparing opus from perplexity to opus from Claude pro. Opus from Claude pro has better longer answers and better quality for example. Opus from perplexity is sorta the same but I noticed answers are definitely shortened. I mean in this sense

tame current
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could be possible that they do something like that on the web too

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you basically won't get the model 1:1, Perplexity changes stuff in various ways and they also probably use some prompt engineering to improve accuracy etc (even in writing mode)

tame current
tame current
umbral ember
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Has Llama3 been rolled back? My model options are only showing Sonar listed as it was before the Llama 3 version was introduced

tame current
umbral ember
minor shard
limpid mason
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Am I the only one that has the voice function that doesn't work on the iOS app ?

waxen silo
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Hey guys, does Perplexity serve ads? or is it fully ad-free? I haven't seen any but want to just make sure. Thanks!

eternal quartz
candid badge
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What. They deleted my commercial.

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I got 5 sign ups the last time I did that. They didn't delete it then.

waxen silo
vague oar
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Anyone know what the state of Perplexity Push is? I saw the announcement a couple months ago but nothing since. TBH this is my top wishlist item, and what I would consider a killer feature that would set Perplexity apart!

valid yoke
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It’s for slack?

vague oar
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The thing is, right now most LLM use is passive - ask and response. But regularly running queries in collections and pushing the results would give a proactive way to keep on top of topics

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That's why I thought Perplexity Push was so interesting, but I haven't heard much since the announcement, and I'm hoping it is something they could do broader than Slack

valid yoke
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I don’t understand why the Perplexity app insists on using in-app Safari

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Drives me nuts

wise hedge
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Hi folks. New here, using pro and wondering if the new memory features of ChatGPT can be accessed via Perplexity ? Any ideas? Or is perplexity working on something similar in house?

eternal quartz
eternal quartz
tame current
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my friends wants to try perplexity pro for 7 days but isn't able to find the option

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is it still available?

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the free trial

fluid mauve
tame current
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so sad..

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okay

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it was a good way to convince people

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using pêrplexity

fringe leaf
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Hello, i want to report an issue regarding Nothing's Perplexity Pro offer. Where can i do it?

fringe leaf
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thank you

rancid rain
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Can we change the voice in the iPhone client?

versed plaza
serene sand
stoic wave
versed plaza
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Haha

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I just like trying to get its reaction when i say dumber and dumber stuff

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It's like always so serious

orchid shore
scarlet valve
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I'm pleased to announce uploading an image still renders your thread useless!

hallow sentinel
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what is everyone's go-to model to use for responses? I like the accuracy of Claude 3 and the way it uses bullets, but is another one better?

leaden fractal
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Does Perplexity have a dedicated support?

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Or is that support person on here?

hallow sentinel
leaden fractal
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Thank you

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Is there a person who is support on here?

versed crest
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How do I get access to the pages beta, I reacted but cant see the channel ?

compact bough
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@signal hamlet Can I have access pleas

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To pages

signal hamlet
late fern
crystal trench
signal hamlet
livid mantle
smoky oriole
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Will Llama 3 1M context window be available on Perplexity?

ripe void
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Please ignore what i deleted…

tame current
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I really really want to know what you deleted.

upbeat dawn
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Hey , where i can check that 50 daily limit for opus?

warm cave
gilded finch
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does perplexity get caught by ai detectoir

tame current
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you could try one of those paraphrasing tools and see if that helps

gilded finch
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whats the limit for amount of times I can use perplexity ai

harsh verge
# upbeat dawn Its daily, right?

Yes, but they don't all come back at once
Every time you use an Opus model, a credit is deducted from your meter. The credit used will be automatically restored exactly 24 hours later. This means that the counter is not reset to its maximum value after a fixed period.

gilded finch
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whats opus

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@harsh verge

harsh verge
cold tide
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woohoo

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how do they know im pro?

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is this a pro only server?

tame current
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that link is only for pro users and free users don't get that link

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and this isn't a pro only server, no

harsh verge
tame current
# harsh verge

yeah he was asking why he had the role when he didn't say he had pro

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I think

shut dagger
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Looks like I lost my pro....🤔

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Why don't I see pro lounge?

wraith crow
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On phone hold the server icon "More Options" > scroll down and select "Show All Channels"

fast meteor
shut dagger
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Thanks guys!!

chilly nova
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am i the only one who just noticed the pro search?

south kindle
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are you asking if the rest of us just noticed a primary feature for the platform that was introduced over a year ago?

halcyon coral
chilly nova
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idk, i never got this stuff appearing while i was searching before

rapid crystal
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Hi! How many times can I use each AI model per day after upgrading to Pro?

boreal tiger
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for coding purposes is gpt4-turbo the closest to opus 3 on perplexity ? for some reason i feel like its way worse. sometimes i even prefer sonnet

wraith crow
rapid crystal
blazing kraken
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My iOS app just changed UI without an update right now…looks fresh

tame current
boreal tiger
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as much as I love this team and their work. Saying "temporary" doesn't address the issue. Atleast give an estimate :/

cursive jacinth
tame current
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Yeah. They're valued at 3 billion. I think they can afford the hit.

gilded vapor
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It seems AI Prompts for Collections doesn't work for me after the first thread. Within the prompt, I tell it not to use bullet points and to have somewhat of a personality. When I create the first thread, it works, but when I make more threads, it seems to go back to the default Opus personality. Here is my prompt:

“You are an expert in child-rearing with 30 years of experience across various cultural backgrounds within the United States. Your expertise includes understanding the nuances of parenting styles from different communities and how these influence child development. In your responses, you should provide empathetic, gentle, and non-judgmental advice. Your knowledge spans a wide range of topics from discipline to emotional support, integrating cultural sensitivity into everyday parenting practices. When responding, please use paragraphs instead of bullet points to ensure the advice is well-integrated and flows naturally. Your goal is to help parents feel supported and understood, while offering practical and culturally aware parenting guidance.”

tame basin
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how many questions does perplexity ask when setting up the profile?
it feels like they just keep coming lol

tame current
fossil sentinel
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💀

cinder comet
tame current
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Those things detect the Bible and Shakespeare as plagiarism.

cold tide
tame current
cold tide
cold tide
tame current
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check which link someone joined from ? it's been like that for ages

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bots can do that easily

cold tide
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sounds good man thanks again

dim ginkgo
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i don't know if perplexity has updated gpt2 or not😃

tame current
cursive jacinth
tame current
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yea it's not available anywhere else

dim ginkgo
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i know, i'm just kidding

valid island
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can't find anything but will sonar large 32K be added to the api?

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Spoke too soon

oblique flame
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Does anyone know the difference between the new pages feature, and sharing a search we’ve made? Kind of sounds like the same thing to me.

tame current
oblique flame
warm dew
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hello, may i asking?

i found that perplexity doesn't show any references at all on my browser, is that bug?

tame current
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first time it has happened

warm dew
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yes it is

livid mantle
winged swift
tame current
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it was working fine a few hours ago

frank rivet
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Update: I can confirm we having some issues with search right now, we appreciate your patience while we fix this issue. Thanks!

warm cave
slate condor
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Claude IOS app is out....Might be time to switch over.

tame current
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Does it have web search? Won't be the same thing as perplexity

pulsar ridge
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Any other Enterprise users having this issue Error code 525

sterile falcon
# warm cave This shows how much you currently have left, you get 50 Opus a day rn

Have you ever noticed that Perplexity tends to forget things when the conversation gets a bit longer? In Writing mode, regardless if I am using GPT-4 or Opus, I notice that the response quality get's worse and it forgets my original prompt. I read online that the context window is 4,000, which is lower than ChatGPT plus. Any idea if that has something to do with it?

lone citrus
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It's actually at least 32k contexts, 4k context is the output max window

sterile falcon
lone citrus
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Claude 3 can >>write up<< to 4000 tokens at a time

sterile falcon
lone citrus
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We don;t know, someone say it's 32k, someone say it's as much as original LLM had, pplx never explained

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Also, do not use document upload feature for long context need chat

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they do not give u full context when use upload instead sending texts

halcyon coral
sterile falcon
lone citrus
sterile falcon
# halcyon coral Yes the conversation context window is 32k

I see. So if the context window is the same as ChatGPT plus of 32,000, any idea why in writing mode it tends to forget the prompt from earlier? I have this problem when I am creating flashcards from my notes, and it tends to forget the instructions. It's mostly with GPT-4. Do you suggest trying Opus?

halcyon coral
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Yes

lone citrus
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😰There really needs to be more features to encourage people to buy that plan.

halcyon coral
sterile falcon
south kindle
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i hit my shilling for scratchpad quota for the day. lol.

halcyon coral
sterile falcon
south kindle
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I have this prompt set up as a collection. I have them condensed down in size so they fit. should remove the need from directly inputting it. as IceLava said above.

sterile falcon
south kindle
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you shouldn't need to.

sterile falcon
kind kettle
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Perplexity as been dead for almost two hours.

halcyon coral
zenith flint
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Why perplexity gives the same answer or slightly modified answer

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So often

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I bought premium version to get rid of it

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I often lost free pro searches because of this

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It gave me the same answer multiple times

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This is serious issue

south kindle
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what model in use?

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do you have any threads to share?

thorny canopy
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I noticed when people ask for an update on the opus limit even with pings...seem to be ignored....oof ☕

signal hamlet
signal hamlet
tame current
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oh

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never mind 💀

tame current
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The Claude Team plan has been announced. But. It is $30 per user per month, and it has a 5 user minimum.

bold badger
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Is there any point using the ChatGPT app or new Anthropic app on iPhone if you have a PRO acccount on perplexity?

tame current
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But, the Claude app is also avaliable for free users.

bold badger
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Thanks @tame current

jade blaze
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What does hiring process at Perplexity look like? Would love to join this amazing firm!

tame current
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Also. Longer context. So, if you're writing long things.

warm cave
tame current
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I meant for Claude.

warm cave
tame current
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It's nice to have 5 messages then capped.

bold badger
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It will be great when image generation is available in app as well.

warm cave
tame current
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The best image tool avaliable today is Ideogram.

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I imagine if Claude does get image generation, they'll use Stable Diffusion.

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Apparently, Grok is in talks with Midjourney.

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Beautiful.

warm cave
south kindle
tame current
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I used Ideogram.

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And their magic prompt.

south kindle
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mine was just dalle-3. plus Opus reviewing it to come up with an image prompt

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https://th.bing.com/th/id/OIG3.XP_nuQRL1FDZbRgJMYFb?w=1024&h=1024&rs=1&pid=ImgDetMain
A calico or tortoiseshell cat with bright green eyes and an alert, curious expression, sitting in the foreground against a swirling, abstract night sky inspired by Van Gogh's 'The Starry Night'. The cat's fur should be a mix of black, white, and orange/yellow. The background should feature expressive brushstrokes of deep blues, greens, and vibrant yellows swirling in a stylized interpretation of the starry night, with elements like a crescent moon and cypress trees reminiscent of Van Gogh's iconic painting.

restive osprey
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im new to the ai space. been using a few of them. curious if someone can help me brain storm ways I can use it too?

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suggestions .

sterile falcon
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For those of you guys that have Claude Pro, have you ever compared the responses with Opus using Perplexity?

chilly fox
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What model does the free version of Perplexity use now? I know the CEO said a month ago or more that Claude 3 Haiku was gonna be the new default

restive osprey
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wont get into the subject matter. but, i took my convo and results very long back and forth into opus 3.

sterile falcon
sterile falcon
restive osprey
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Id say that Opus 3 is a but more advanced and aware of the direction of the covnersation than Perplexity.

south kindle
# restive osprey im new to the ai space. been using a few of them. curious if someone can help me...
Perplexity AI

Key information from the prompt:
User is new to AI space
Has been using a few AI tools
Seeking help brainstorming ways to use AI

Step-by-step reasoning:

  1. Identify user's current level of AI knowledge and experience
  2. Consider common applications of AI for various purposes
  3. Brainstorm specific use cases based on the user's potential intere...
restive osprey
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perplexity however is no lightweight. It pulled relevant info, albeit a bit redunant at times.

sterile falcon
serene sand
restive osprey
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I want to understand what you're asking exactly. Im not yet subbed to Perplexity pro. So cant speak to all the options there yet.

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Im subbed to claude ai

sterile falcon
restive osprey
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Opus 3 dont have web access. I just either create a pdf, or text of the information I gain from Perplexities help into Opus 3. This I just tried today.

sterile falcon
restive osprey
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ah okay

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i dont have Perplexity pro. I have Opus 3 through Anthropics website currently.

storm bough
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is it worth versus GPT? @restive osprey

restive osprey
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im subbed to both gpt 4 and Claudi 3, and find I enjoy Opus 3 a lot lot more than gpt 4. Gpt 4 currently is not as good as it used to be.

sterile falcon
storm bough
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whats your normal usage for opus?

restive osprey
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tons of talks about a lot of text. it has a bigger token limit than gpt4 by a lot. unsure the exact amount. Normal so far, is learning a text more carefully unsure how to word this.

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its got very good vision for images,

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so it can translate say Italian or Russian, from a image

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even if the image is skewed or not perfect. say a internet archive scan

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I can do some coding

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basic reshade shader coding, HLSL something like this

storm bough
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no need for web browsing?

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everything you get back is relatively accurate?

restive osprey
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i dont need it in Opus 3, because i can use perplexity for that.

storm bough
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ah i see

restive osprey
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when you asked about normal usage i thought you mean like limitations., there is a alloted limit of replies. but the replies can be as long as you insist on it being. but little replies inbetween count as a reply

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but this allotment resets fairly fast.

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So i think 7 or so for Opus 3

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the other sub models are noticeably faster but not as smart as Opus 3.

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Claude ai could use some better organization like gpt has in its UI . like the history. but theres no search anyway in either of them i think

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Curious how Perpexlity handles that

sterile falcon
sterile falcon
restive osprey
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what does a limit consist of?

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is it like a limit of replies? Opus 3 imposes a limit of "replies" so say I have 10 or 7 or something.

storm bough
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50 opus, other ones have such a high limit 600 that you wouldn't notice anything

restive osprey
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okay . like others ?

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50 for how perplexity uses their api i guess?

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600 replies seems like alot -

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wonder if the response is opus 3 or degraded, to some other model

sterile falcon
# storm bough no need for web browsing?

Some people prefer to use GPT-4 and Claude Opus without them searching the Internet. After all, these companies spend a lot of money on feeding so much information into the model itself. But Perplexity’s target users are those who need accurate responses to specific questions,

restive osprey
#

I will say Perplexity seems better than when I used it last year.

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i can see myself using it much more. and maybe getting pro. which is how much money? anyone pro now?

storm bough
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i am

restive osprey
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worth?

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how are you using it, use cases?

storm bough
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I'd say so personally since I'm in school and need accurate answers but there's pros and cons I suppose

sterile falcon
# restive osprey okay . like others ?

I don’t think you should have any problem with running out of messages. I can’t comment on the quality of Opus responses in Perplexity vs. Claude since I don’t have Claude pro.

storm bough
#

What's weird is I find GPT-4 Turbo more accurate on perplexity than Copilot/ChatGPT after running questions through it, I have no explaination why

restive osprey
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okay will be something i hope to find the answer for

sterile falcon
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I use perplexity to ask it for problems that I face at work as an engineer, so very technical questions.

restive osprey
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seems to be constant quality fluctuations in the models month to month year to year. Because I could believe that GPT 4 was so much more smarter than it is today currently. And at some point, GPT bing, was smarter than gpt open ai. and there was a bit of a degrading and elevating throughout. Limitations would change too.

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because of that inconsistancy, and what i think is a current down trend in its quality , i been using opus 3 and pretty satisfied with it.

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Bing chat, used to be somewhat pointed, and have a bit of a personality to it. Now its a bit regimented and stoic. just not as engaging. I get more generalizations than answers to the questions than I used to.

storm bough
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i will say even being able to attach powerpoints and pdfs to perplexity it'll say it's citing from there but it's just giving you false citations

restive osprey
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and it seems like its defaulted to search engine results at times.

storm bough
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big con

restive osprey
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oh and gpt 4 internet access i run into a lot more of it saying, cannot access the internet or something. whereas that was unheard of when internet was first introduced. i guess maybe more people are using it? so alot of rationing.

restive osprey
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seems to be a problem they all have right now.

storm bough
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if you attach a personal powerpoint and say cite which page you found x information it'll give you the wrong page

restive osprey
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yea if you're doing some serious study, Id try Opus 3

storm bough
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idk where it gets it's information when it cites wrongly from the PDF/powerpoint

restive osprey
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i wonder if i can test that in opus 3 now? i just dont use power points and dont have any on hand

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if u have a mockup example i can use id try it

sterile falcon
storm bough
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I have a neuroscience powerpoint I used for class, if you could put it in and say find something about x and cite the page then check if it was on that page that would be helpful

restive osprey
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i think its a factor of both. And maybe you wont ever hear a company in the throws of a boom knock their product

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true or not

sterile falcon
restive osprey
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ill try it

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can send to dm or whatever method u prefer

sterile falcon
restive osprey
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im not sure what is this circle. not using it as much

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guess they call it copilot now.

kind kettle
sterile falcon
dense field
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very true, it's unfortunate.. the responses used to be good, now i get better results from a local llama3 model, did not expect that this year

lunar anchor
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To have perplexity recognize which photo I’m referring to (when working with multiple photos), is it best to name the photos and then upload them, and reference them by the filename? (I’m used to just having them on my clipboard and uploading them via clip)

Or upload one per message and provide it a reference “keyword” or something?

It seems to get even more confused than I am when working with multiple photos 😂

dense field
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i wasn't even aware you could upload multiple at once, interesting

lunar anchor
dense field
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i can tell, lol

warm cave
#

Meta added lightning image generation!

ancient flare
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is that running meta's mega model yet?

south kindle
#

https://www.perplexity.ai/page/Understanding-the-Conscious-Gtw786J5QQe4EpR4TfusXw > sharing here as well for users without access to Pages yet to check out.

Perplexity AI

Exploring the concept of a "conscious observer" delves into the intricate philosophical and scientific discussions surrounding consciousness and subjective experience. This term encapsulates the phenomenon of experiencing the world from a first-person perspective, integrating complex neural processes into a coherent whole. The notion raises prof...

ripe void
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thats wild

tame current
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why does it work with a prompt one minute, then later it says it cant do that task

ripe void
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Is that on instagram?

south kindle
boreal tiger
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perplexity is down rn ?

urban cipher
south kindle
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typically there are embedded images, but I decided to not add any. the selection of images it came up with didn't really match the sections so, just left it as a text.

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if you react to the main post I linked, you should get access to the channel. there's a pinned comment with "request access" form.

warm cave
warm cave
warm cave
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Waiting to get an email about Pages 👉👈

south kindle
warm cave
south kindle
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I can say it matches what I expected the "articles" feature to be.

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looking forward to more options though. currently unable to set the model in use. you essentially add sections by typing what it will be about, and if it's concise or detailed. there is some table features and image features. but no real way to add user generated sections or notes.

warm cave
south kindle
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We can convert threads to pages though, but not sure how "much" of the thread is actually incorporated. haven't tested it that much with either short threads or long threads.

south kindle
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@warm cave where is your thread you had on search operators? can't find it.

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wait that was @livid mantle

sly yacht
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@south kindle

south kindle
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nice.

uneven basin
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since this morning every source code of opus is considered as copyright, have you already had this problem ?

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the code is from opus self 🙂

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itself

hallow tulip
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@uneven basin can you explain in more detail?

opaque ferry
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suggest some perplexity videos some advanced videos if possibl

wanton urchin
#

Is px not working on Safari and Brave? I can insert a promt but can‘t send it (no reaction of “return”). I also can’t register, because the button does not work. Can anybody give me feedback, if there is a hack? Thank you.

uneven basin
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@hallow tulip it is code for an sharepoint importer from an external webservice source, i have send the full code from claude opus again into prompt

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and ask some questions

lilac stump
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if i attach a file in focus mode, like writing or academic, how do i stop the source being added ot each request that fllows?

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if my first question is to analyse a file for content and answer it, and then build upon the file, the AI seems to keep acting as if each follow on request in that chat is the first time it's seen that file

serene sand
lilac stump
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removing the file seems to remove it from the entire chat history, i can remove it from the 2nd request even if the file's in the first one and the AI will say, "you've not provided me any files to analyse in teh chat history" as if it'd never been attached

remote pasture
#

How can I request a subscription refund?
They charged me the monthly payment and I didn't want it.

remote pasture
#

thanks

latent pendant
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It looks good, but now it basically is a way to share a thread as an article

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Adding images would help to break the wall of text effect, and having TTS would be great as basically you'd have your homemade podcast episode

south kindle
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I was going to add images but none of the suggested ones that were available fit well. I used a separate thread to come up with the topics but the actual text generation was entirely within Pages using detailed mode. I’ll probably find external images to add but haven’t done it yet.

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When you use the add media function it sources the same set of images that get curated from threads (I believe). You can also generate a new image as you normally would or upload an external image.

surreal marsh
#
Perplexity AI

The Rabbit R1 represents a significant advancement in the field of consumer AI technology, blending the capabilities of traditional voice assistants with a more proactive and autonomous operational model. Developed by Rabbit Inc., the R1 utilizes a proprietary Large Action Model (LAM) to perform tasks across various applications without the need...

harsh verge
#
Perplexity AI

La théorie des vagues Neowave, développée par l'analyste financier Glenn Neely, est une avancée significative de la théorie des vagues d'Elliott. Elle propose une approche plus structurée et scientifique de l'analyse des cycles de marché, en introduisant de nouveaux concepts et méthodologies pour affiner les prédictions et les analyses technique...

limber plover
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gm gm everyone

I need to translate a pdf. I'm a pro user.
How do I start a conversation with claude that sepcifically does that?

hallow linden
#

Change the default model or have it rewrite the response with a new model

hallow linden
gloomy kite
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❤️

limber plover
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ty ty will give it a go

warm cave
sick linden
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how to access to page view ?

fossil sentinel
#

Altman ‘knows the release date’, Politico calls it ‘imminent’ according to Insiders, and then the mystery GPT-2 chatbot causes mass confusion and hysteria. I break it all down and cover two papers – MedGemini and Scale AI Contamination – released in the last 24 hours. I’ve read them in full and they might be more important than all the rest. Let...

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hallow linden
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based on lmsys data, I'd expect that the new sonar must be really good. Has that been anyone's experience?

violet bramble
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Hi, can you explain any shortcut key for mac in webui ? like cmd+K

zenith flint
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Voice chat don’t let me end the sentence

warm cave
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I like this one:

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Like a meme cat

zenith flint
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Is there any way to make it usable

minor shard
tame current
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If I pay for pro it allows for 300 messages?

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Bc chatgpt4 only does 30 am every 3 hours

serene sand
tame current
halcyon coral
tame current
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Or just 300 a day

halcyon coral
tame current
tepid pilot
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💀

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Ain’t no way

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Some ppl

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Gd

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I can’t

tame current
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Still don’t get it

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I sweat I’m not joking

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Can anyone please explain

halcyon coral
tame current
#

So when I get pro, is it one pro setting or do I need to click on specific tools to use

south kindle
#

that trial would be nice right about now

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easier to say "just try it out" ha.

tame current
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Yeah

serene sand
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Perplexity is very complex tool, app. please take your time and explore deep dive I gave you @tame current

tame current
#

I’m just looking for a ai thays as good as chatgpt4 or better without the 40 question cap limit every 3 hours

south kindle
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with pro, you can select one of these as default. for Opus, after you hit your daily limit, it reverts to Sonnet. via the 2nd screenshot, this is from my own settings page. you can see I still have plenty of GPT-4 uses left today.

tame current
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So

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Chatgpt4 here is the same thing at chatgpt4 on the app?

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Uh

south kindle
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yes and no. same model, but chatgpt has their own system prompt, like PPLX does as well.

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for the record, microsoft copilot also uses GPT-4 turbo, and that's unlimited as well.

tame current
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Is it worth it to pay $20 a month for copilot

south kindle
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i'd say no.

#

LLMs are just guessing the next token/word. sometimes they guess wrong. aside from that, I don't know why your getting different answers from different hosts for GPT-4 turbo.

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PPLX offers a lot more than just access to GPT-4 Turbo or Claude models.

tame current
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Well idk how to put this

south kindle
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a vast majority of us here are on the Claude Opus train currently and find it's outputs far better than GPT-4 turbo.

tame current
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I use chatgpt4 for school, and it’s right on hw and studying so I want something exactly like it, without the limit of 40 questions every 3 hours

south kindle
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PPLX is an answer engine. it replaces the need for going thru pages and pages of google results to find what your looking for. for that aspect, i'd assume it'd be better suited for your needs. it's a platform meant for research and curosity.

tame current
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And that’s with this?

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Which I can? With premium payment

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And what’s the limit on it

south kindle
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see my screenshot above. unless you need more than like 400 queries a day, you likely won't hit the GPT-4 cap.

tame current
#

So it’s 400 a day?

south kindle
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i don't know the exact amount but its more than 30 an hour.

tame current
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Ah ok

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Trying to find that amount

south kindle
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honestly, see if the default model and the platform itself works for your needs. focusing on query count instead of functionality is a little shortsighted if you ask me.

tame current
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Well yeah

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@south kindle in your opinion what’s the best paid alternative for chatGPT4 with bigger limit

south kindle
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i've only paid for PPLX this year if that counts for anything. haven't used chatgpt plus since last year.

tame current
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Ah I see

south kindle
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but i'm not in school currently and mostly use it as a replacement for google searches. my needs arent "mission critical" like school is. i'm more of a explorer in that aspect, trying new models/features for platforms to fully test their limits.

tame current
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I see

south kindle
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new models that are popular get added to PPLX for us to use. condensing the need for multiple subscriptions.

tame current
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True

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But overall is their different limits based on the tool

south kindle
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yes, but the only limits that people hit are the Claude 3 Opus one.

tame current
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Oh ok ty

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I got the free trial

tame current
south kindle
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That's a subjective question. use the "rewrite" function if you have Pro to have PPLX redo the answer with a different model. see which works best for your specific use cases. if your goal was to use GPT-4 Turbo, just use that. otherwise try out Opus.

tame current
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I see

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Issue I am facing is that it just searches from google even when answer is wrong

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Which chatgpt4 doesn’t do

warm cave
# tame current Which of the options are best for me

You mentioned you are using it for help in school, as a general rule if it is a STEM topic then GPT-4 will be more accurate, or if it is more creative like writing them Claude will be better. Personally I like Claude Opus because it is very good at breaking things down into manageable steps so it can tutor me, and this is often more of a benefit than the slightly lower accuracy. Of course that is mostly because I use it for studying and have the answer already and if it give the explanation but has the wrong answer then I know I need to switch to GPT-4 for that particular question

tame current
# serene sand

Why does the website still not mention the Opus limits not being included in the 600? Very misleading.

minor shard
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imo i wouldn't consider gemini pro a top LLM

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but obviously depends on ur use case

tame current
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It's excellent for creative writing.

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I don't code.

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Imagen 2 is also excellent and will be even better when they get rid of the racism.

tame current
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Damn just hate the limit

austere kestrel
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try poe. if it's more about maximum usage, rather than the LLM being connected to the internet, then there's like 5 different variants of gpt-4 to use there, plus pretty much every other model.

tame current
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I mean like I said @austere kestrel just want chatgpt4 with greater limit to answer correctly questions

austere kestrel
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ya then i would i prob use poe or or the openAI API

tame current
#

Yk the limit?

austere kestrel
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~3000 / month, you could use them all up in one day (well, in theory), or spread them out

#

you will get more uses via perplexity

tame current
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I see

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Issue with Perplexity is that whenever I search something it just goes off the Internet rather than actually putting logic

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So like if I give it a question or homework probably to help me solve

austere kestrel
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but poe is just a wrapper. if you really just want gpt4 plain and simle, that is your best bet

tame current
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Yeah, I actually have that but the 40 every three hour limit is killing me

austere kestrel
tame current
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I have the pre-trial so it doesn’t hurt

austere kestrel
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it's good value. but if you just want to use the model, no features which may or may not get in the way, either openAI directly or poe imo.
completely subjective ofc.. just my 2c

tame current
#

Oh thank you I really really appreciate it

sterile falcon
# tame current I see

Perplexity in “writing” mode doesn’t search the internet. You’re using it in “All” mode, hence, it’s searching the internet. In “writing” mode, the answers are similar to ChatGPT, but a little bit longer due to Perplexity’s target users requiring details.

livid mantle
arctic spindle
lone citrus
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it's not ai work, just simple PS or photo editor something

crimson stump
#

Does anyone know how to remove the file restriction issue for new Enterprise users? I can no longer attach any files to my threads. The limitations message indicates it is for the first 7 days as a new user placed by the Administrator of the account (which is me) and I never added these restrictions nor do I see anywhere to remove them.

spice lance
#

is there anything that gemini 1.5 pro is better at than other models?

split sigil
#

heyyy wspp

#

There is no code to have a free month of perplexity pro?

warm cave
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If you want I can send over my referral code, just lmk

#

@chilly forge 👀

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Or you can use naivecoders link, haha

chilly forge
warm cave
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The model switcher user script broke, I wonder if perplexity broke it on purpose or not, lol

warm cave
warm cave
west sage
#

Claude Opus still limited to 50?

warm cave
rigid shadow
#

Hello, just joined in but Pro user since months!!! Cheers

austere kestrel
#

also just noticed they added JSON output mode and system prompt, which is nice to see

#

also it performs much better than I think is sometimes assumed. Like it isn't just about the massive context window and multi-modality. None of that comes into play on the lmsys arena - it's just the quality of its responses, compared to another model, on which people rate it. And it's currently tied for 2nd place along with Opus and several GPT-4 variants

fast meteor
tame current
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It's really really good for creating funny random scripts.

bold badger
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What channel do you use if you have used a prompt with a certain model and it returns information that is incorrect?

#
Perplexity AI

Last week, Meta, the company behind Facebook, did not release any new large language models. However, there has been significant activity and developments around Meta's AI initiatives in recent months, particularly with their LLaMA models.

Meta's LLaMA (Language Model Meta AI) has been a focal point of their AI development. The LLaMA model is n...

fast meteor
# tame current you can do that ? how ?
if (typeof _XML_send === 'undefined') {
    var _XML_send = XMLHttpRequest.prototype.send;
}
XMLHttpRequest.prototype.send = function(msg) {
  \\your logic here
  return _XML_send.call(this, msg);
}

no library required, just plain old emsascript
socket.io will fallback to long polling if ws is not avail.

sturdy crane
#

I am a newbie with these AI tools, how is perplexity different from AIPRM & Chatgpt?? (note: I am planning on writing medium articles and I want AI to help me with it)

tame current
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and it generally gives more accurate info than chatgpt

sick geode
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Hello guys, to the awesome perplexity builders, I’m heavily using the voice function to practice my english and to avoid typing on my iPad, but the new update is just verrrry quick as it responds while i’m thinking of some words to put. I liked the previous voice function too much as I can toggle when to speak

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Can we expect something to fix this please? It’s very annoying and ruins one of my favorite perplexity features

sick geode
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I believe it’s not a bug. It’s just a fine tuning related thing

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I’ll be very happy to have an option in settings so I can make it continuously listen similar to our previous experience

serene sand
sick geode
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Yessssssssss

sick geode
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Just found it in the last reply

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Thank you dear ❤️

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Please don’t remove this guys ❤️

austere kestrel
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you can do it without JSON mode enabled through prompting, but as you can see here, the output is a JSON object but it's enclosed in a code block (would need further prompting to stop that)

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it's useful for workflows / agents, where you want to pass outputs between LLMs (or into different processes / storage)

green thicket
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Kinda annoying that they rely this much on Cloudflare. What are they fearing?

#

Also, how often will I be able to apply this $10 referral discount? Is this a one-time thing only?

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Or could I simply subscribe next month with another referral link and get $10 off for the next month, too?

tame current
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I can definitely see why that can be a problem

green thicket
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Sorry if this sounds ignorant but how are they actually wrapping the GPT 4 Turbo service from OpenAI, does Perplexity pay token by token, similar to what users can do on OpenAI Playground (or OpenAI Platform nowadays), or are they in some kind of flatrate contract with OpenAI?

tame current
tame current
stoic wave
lost tapir
austere kestrel
# stoic wave They simply pay for API usage, and that is the only way.

yeah but there's two ways to pay for API usage. Pay As You Go (what we're familiar with), and "Provisioned Throughput" - I'm quite sure that a company like perplexity is the latter
https://www.perplexity.ai/search/explain-provisioned-throughput-GSQ4WRfuSjaQ1PcFD32zVw

Perplexity AI

Provisioned Throughput Units (PTUs) are a pricing model offered by Azure OpenAI Service, designed to provide a predictable and stable cost structure for using AI models, particularly those based on OpenAI's technology such as GPT-4. This model is distinct from the Pay-As-You-Go (PAYG) option, which charges based on the actual consumption of reso...

lost tapir
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yes gemini 1.5 pro has a very big context so its useful for that type of stuff but in coding and any other type of stuff it doesnt hold a candle to claude 3 opus or gpt 4 turbo

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with better text formatting highlighting and other things votes are a bit biased

austere kestrel
austere kestrel
lost tapir
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but if you wont be making use of that context its not very good

austere kestrel
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but as far as benchmarks go, i would always give more weight to the arena leaderboard over a model provider's self-reported evals - though i'm sure there are other benchmarkin projects out there (and it all comes down personal use cases at the end of the day anyway)

lost tapir
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both type of benchmarks have their cons tbh

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normal benchmarks are more about technical side this lmsys is more about human preferences

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but you can train the model on the benchmark so its also not very good

#

how about closed benchmarks

austere kestrel
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ofc - i mean most evals are just entrance exams for various different academic disciplines or generic tests for 'reasoning' competence or coding or whatever

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there's no holy grail

lost tapir
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i've got a math problem and every model out there fails lmao if one day one manages to do it i'll declare it superior to human intelligence

austere kestrel
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contamination

lost tapir
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tbh i see a lot of reasoning tests but model is already trained on that

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when you make a unique reasoning test it fails

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sure they might be capable of creating unique content but they are not good at reasoning yet

austere kestrel
lost tapir
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like sometimes it knows how to solve a problem

austere kestrel
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this kinda of thing gets me every time (same with the 1000kg of feathers and 1000kg of lead questions..)(

lost tapir
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but it doesnt know how to apply the method

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it cant adapt that method to the situation

lost tapir
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claude sure its good at writing and stuff but fails math and reasoning

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their benchmarks told it was superior to gpt 4 too

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so not really accurate benchmarks

icy zenith
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WTH

lost tapir
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training on benchmark dataset is all you need

icy zenith
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the app lets you switch models in the middle of a conversation

lost tapir
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im waiting for gpt5

icy zenith
lost tapir
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i mean who else is going to release groundbreaking stuff if not openai anyway

stoic wave
lost tapir
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they hired best of the best

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they got all the budget in the world

lost tapir
lost tapir
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presumably after election

mossy flame
lost tapir
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considering sam already started gpt 5 hype it would make no sense why there wont be gpt 5

stoic wave
lost tapir
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oh thats just a guessing

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who knows they can name it anything

stoic wave
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Yeah, thats what i am saying.

lost tapir
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openai is about to release their own search engine with ai

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they have already integrated something similar to bing

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its probably openai testing their stuff before release

mossy flame
lost tapir
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well ye probably

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how would you be google competitor while using google for web search lmao

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openai hype

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you love to see it

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i wonder if meta will just opensource the 400b version too

icy zenith
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You guys think it's a regular search engine

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Nah

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Its not going for Google

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It's going for Perplexity

stoic wave
lost tapir
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whats not good for perplexity is that they are stuck with the models openai antrophic or whatever provides them

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but those companies can fine tune their models more fit for this type of approach

icy zenith
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Tbh

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AI knowledge engines are too slow to be considered a search engine

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And too inaccurate

lost tapir
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google isnt good enough anymore

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its filled with trash

icy zenith
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We need to separate search engines and knowledge engines

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Google and Bing are search engines

lost tapir
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ai itself might hallucinate yes but it will search for it on the web

icy zenith
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The AI tools they have (SGE, Copilot) don't make them knowledge engines

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Just search engines with AI-enhanced summaries

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But when the AI response is the main way of consuming the web search experience, like Perplexity, you.com, and the upcoming ChatGPT search thing (i think), then it should be considered a knowledge engine

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Search engines provide links

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Knowledge engines provide direct knowledge

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Can a knowledge engine replace search entirely? No, as it requires search to even work

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But can it possibly replace them for someone in their daily life? Yeah, as long as you don't need instant speeds

austere kestrel
pure jackal
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is it possible to make own knowledge engine?

fluid mauve
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I would tend to agree on the terms Search engine (google, bing, DuckDuckGo) and Knowledge engines like Perplexity, you.com and others. They are currently two completly different beasts. When you do a search in a knowledge engine, and want to validate its authenticirty this is where citations come in. The majority of which have been indexed by a search engine.

LLM's, Knowledge engines et all, are in their infancy, I can see a time in the not so distant future where the average user will not be able to tell the difference of where the data came from. it will just be a response. I vaugley remember pre-google back in the late 80's where searching was a nightmare, nowadays its simple as pumping in a query and a search engine will send a resoponse in milliseconds, Knowledhe engines maybe a few seconds.

Google has expended many billions of dollars setting up search heads all over the globe, retrieving and indexing data for a decade. They hold a massive corpus of link data. It will take knowledge engines seperately may years to even get close to what Google has in search and response.

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I initially thought that companies like Perplexity, OpenAI, You.com could get indexers to work for them and retrieve and augment data as required, but why would they, Google already has that data, it just needs to be harnessed.

I see this more as diversification of revenue streams for Google, providing fast accurate data to Knowledge engines. it improves Knowlege engine response time and it still allows Google to provide citations peppered with ad links. Granted this isnt ideal, but as long as the knowledge is not 'tainted' by sponsored ads via Google I think this can work.

But I stand here, ready to be shot down after my little ditty produxced during my lunch break. (actually I am stitting)

devout cargo
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Perplexity and Google SGE compete in the same segment?

fluid mauve
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No I still think it is important to look at what each actually provides. Google is in the search business, Perplexity is in the Knowledge business. Both have distinct uses. I dont go to Perplexity for Papa Johns phone number, thats definitly a Google search position. I would use Perplexity to craft a cover letter for a particulat job I might be applying for. Igf i gave teh same task to google I would get ba list of sites that could do that for me.

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You also dont get to utilise different LLM models on a search engine, well not yet I dont think

austere kestrel
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and says the overhwhelming majority is navigation (give me the link/basic info). perplexity occupies Exploration (or Google's "immersion" ig ha)

tame current
kindred folio
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can i connect apple id and google to perplexity account?

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because i sign in with google but on my school managed chromebook i can only manage to sign in with apple id and i need to link it to the right acc instead of it being separate

devout cargo
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In Spain to make an appointment at the ITV you have 20 pages that make you pay €20, that is a scam because it is free. With Perplexity it gives you the answer directly, the ITV telephone number and the official URL

opaque stump
#

Looking forward to this rumored Perplexity competitor from OpenAI 🤞🏽

chilly musk
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Is the service down?

opaque stump
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Working for me

livid mantle
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fried eggplant

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and soy sauce

half venture
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Is opus still 50

serene sand
brittle temple
#

Hi guys,
So I asked here before about my issue trying to redeem my discount code. I’ve contacted customer support 4 times already with my information. I have not gotten a response back from the last 3.
Are they usually this bad? Any similar experience?

halcyon coral
sick geode
#

Anyone noticing that Pro search is becoming toggles off by default? I find it very limiting to always turn it on…

brittle temple
signal hamlet
livid mantle
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omg whre to apply Mr. @signal hamlet

shut plaza
#

what exactly is the Plexer role for?

shut plaza
#

ah thanks

minor shard
#

The #⭐│starred channel has been really useful at seeing what is trending on the discord server for Perplexity.

signal hamlet
glacial tiger
#

What can you do?

warm cave
#

I have to say the new voice conversation sucks to a degree where it's unusable, it's promising, but the TTS is very inaccurate and it never lets me finish speaking before starting, I could say “how is the weather?” and it would stop by time I reach “the”. If I speak fast it works better, but I stopped using it altogether because the regular whisper TTS works soo well in comparison. Hope it improves in the future

livid mantle
#

🤖

signal hamlet
wide mesa
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I cant seem to access any of my threads and library rn?

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or is the site just slow today in general

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nvm all good now

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I find it interesting that it Sonnet works better than Opus sometimes

sour bough
#

Hey guys quick question. What's the best model to use within perplexity right now? Opus or gpt 4?

thorn python
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😁

warm cave
silent magnet
#

What do you guys generally get better results with? GPT-4 Turbo or Opus?

warm cave
regal stirrup
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file size limit is same on pro? Or bigger?

silent magnet
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But English-wise OPUS felt king but by far.

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But I do feel like there was a significant degredation in OPUS since launch.

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Maybe I'm crazy

wide mesa
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it does this only for one of my theads

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a few threads now wtf

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why is it doing this

jovial mantle
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Are you using a VPN?

silent magnet
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Open the developer tools and go in the network tab

wide mesa
wide mesa
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I really damn need the contents of that thread rn

wide mesa
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I cant access most of my old threads now

silent magnet
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Click "XHR" to filter by that, then try the button again. Check the "Response" tab in the row that just appeared.

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Ah, I don't think debugging is gonna solve that one.

dusk talon
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Is there a dedicated support team on here?

chilly musk
wide mesa
dusk talon
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Sorry bad with lingo

wide mesa
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it wont let me make a damn new thread now

chilly musk
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me tooooo

tame current
#

Do you have a Ideas for prompt engineer to reduce Claude 3 Sonnet hallucinations?
It misinterpreted what my request Is sometimes.
Opus Is great for coding and writing though.

sly minnow
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Some of my treads still works but some don't for some reason.

chilly musk
restive blaze
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Hello just recently came to know about this Perplexity AI.
I'm seeing so many GPT apps recently like Chatgpt, Poe, Bing Copilot, Perplexity AI etc

Which one of all of these is best for free users? I'm so confused.

chilly musk
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I started having this problem last night

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It even kicks me out of my account if I refresh on this thread page

vapid onyx
chilly musk
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I can't solve it, I have to create a new thread to use it

wide mesa
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For me creating a new thread sometimes work and sometimes doesnt

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Typically doesnt if my question is long

chilly musk
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me too, and creating a new thread requires copying the problem from the previous thread again

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and it wastes 50 opus uses per day

wide mesa
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I cant copy the problem because it just wont load

chilly musk
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so... today I purchased the claude pro subscription😂

wide mesa
#

I really liked and needed perplexity's yknow automatic academic sources so I'm not using claude over it

chilly musk
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I need claude opus to help me with my school paper

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In writing, gpt is not as humane as claude

wide mesa
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and run through detectors

dark idol
# half venture Copilot

Yea but copilot slowwww, perplexity is much better if U want speed and slightly more accurate answers, copilot is just smarter when it comes to other stuff

wide mesa
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Copilot is wonky and wont give you accurate academic articles most of the time

worthy mesa
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Both give sometimes unrelated sources compared to the answer given

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Kind of false advertising

obsidian acorn
#

perplexity broken

restive blaze
restive blaze
half venture
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And for general questions copilot offers gpt 4 for free

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Perplexity doesn't

restive blaze
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Okay I'll try both for a few days to see which one is better overall

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I've seen one thing. When I ask something on Copilot and while it's answering it, if I minimize the app, it stops answering and gives error.

upbeat dawn
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Opus at pplx not smart like from anthropic one imo

chilly musk
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reset every 5 hours

warm cave
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Keep in mind that it is normally less than 45 per 5h, using more context dramatically reduces it. I normally get closer to 25 per 5h. I still find it worth it but it's good to know since you may want to start new chats frequently and give it less context if you need the full 45

chilly musk
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it will provide a warning before you have 7 messages remaining

chilly musk
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I like the context of 200k

warm cave
chilly musk
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I can send my paper.docx directly to it

warm cave
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Love it so much actually, use it so much every day, max it out every 5h

chilly musk
warm cave
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Lol, I answered a question you did not ask. deleted like it never happened…

chilly musk
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I tried it. It works

warm cave
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Nice, I mostly use pdf and txt files with it. Always works great

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I like using obsidian, so it works well

tame current
chilly musk
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yea

tame current
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I think I might subscribe to Claude Instead of perplexity.

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Is Original website better?

chilly musk
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In my experience...the webpage interaction of claude was not as good as that of gpt webpage

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latex is not supported, can't edit sent questions

tame current
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Oh damn.

chilly musk
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incomplete markdown syntax support

tame current
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Opus Is so Good that perplexity have to limits usage to 50 messages per day because user used them too much lmao.

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Coding never been this easier.

stoic wave
devout cargo
#

Seriously with Google Gemini as a personal assistant. you can use home automation you can send WhatsApp you can make reminders now we have extensions for everyone alike you can make email summaries you can search on Google Maps you can search for hotels you can search you can already do many things. Knowing all this, is it worth buying Rabbit R1?

tame current
placid coyote
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hello, is pplx doing some weird postprocessing on square brackets in inline code? I don't think this is fault of gpt4t

stoic wave
tame current
devout geyser
stoic wave
tame current
devout geyser
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I'm looking forward to seeing more about what that mysterious LLM was on lmsys recently

stoic wave
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Yeah, and in my expectations I think it's gonna be super good, hopefully not disappointed.

placid coyote
tame current
stoic wave
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Yep, definitely agreed.

placid coyote
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looking at chat, I guess opus is still caged? in my experience opus was much better at following "pre-prompt" (collections prompt). with gpt4t I have to often either remind him again, or rerolling an answer 2-4 times. I am not sure this is actually cheaper for perplexity. well, I guess not many people are using it this way

tame current
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Anyone have a Ideas on using AI such as Claude to help with planning and strategy?
I think It possible but I don't have specific prompt that would work.

icy raft
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I've noticed an issue with the Writing Mode where it keeps searching the internet instead of processing without searching the internet. Can this be fixed?

deep pasture
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Gm

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How can I get my pro-status? I have pro but no role in discord

serene sand
tranquil forge
#

@tame current OpenAI 🥵 CloseAI

tame current
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I think an official Chatgpt search engine would be a serious serious danger to Perplexity. If I had advice to give them, I would emphasise the variety offered. They won't go beyond Chatgpt 3.5/4/5.

valid ruin
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maybe.. maybe not but perplexity is banger than other for now

signal hamlet
tame current
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I meant the variety of models offered.

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Chatgpt aren't going to offer the choice to select Opus or Llama.

chilly nova
#

can you guys confirm that you is better than perplexity with no limitations?

tame current
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The You UI is horrible.

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And the app is terrible.

chilly nova
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major defect of all these tools is that you cannot use it inside your IDE directly without paying for the tokens individually

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you should just pay the sub and be able to use it inside your editor

tame current
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Agreed.

chilly nova
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it's annoying af every time to do a repo2txt export to pass the context as an embedding

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takes so much time

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and you are also limited in perplexity so i have always to use gemini 1.5 pro until it's free cuz 1M context

tame current
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Since my thread Is damaged from error so I will copy and paste all query Into other thread to continue my work for a while lol

sinful pine
#

guys

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i cant paste any html code my perplexity

gentle spire
#

I have encountered this error many times this day, severely affected my work, what’s happening?

small aurora
sinful pine
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some time i think maybe use another ai with my money because most time perplexity add a new feature to app the app is goes wrong, sorry for my eng level

chilly nova
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is there a reason why perplexity doesn't have llama3 btw?

sinful pine
#

@blissful raptor

perplexity.ai somehow breaks before every new feature and I can't use the app even though I paid for it...

and this happens all the time...

ok the app is very nice, but unfortunately if it's going to break all the time, why am I paying for it?

the turkish response structure has been broken twice, this time with this ridiculous problem, if it breaks again before a new feature I will cancel my subscription!

tame current
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If you guy have this error, It seem to only happens to old thread before the error happened, so I copy everything from my old thread and create new thread.

sinful pine
wide mesa
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So old perplexity thread got nuked I take it?