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Support ticket
Perplexity took my monet
Money*
It showed 1 week free trial
And then when I registered it took my mine
Money *
Any news on the limit fix or bump up? I hate pinging and asking, but it is a new week...
The free trial has been removed from the website. You can request a refund by mailing to support@perplexity.ai
Free 1-week trial
Didn’t give me that
Please keep it nice in the chat :)
Yes
Tell me about this
Who’s fault is this
Luring people and looting them
And not giving trial as well
i got the free trial, that's weird
just refund it through ur bank
That should also work
^^^
I’m trying
I’ve dmed you
Seems like Perplexity isnt very good at following instructions on word count
Has anyone used Sonar Large 32 pplx model? I feel like it has been pretty solid.
Hey, @wide mesa, please take a look at this thread: https://discord.com/channels/1047197230748151888/1225545989989859409
ooo thank you for this!
https://twitter.com/OpenAI/status/1784992796669096181?t=jxQPjaXH0R-YSCYyHvUYIg&s=19
Hello, isn't this new Open AI feature the same as Perplexity's AI profile that remembers your name and preferences?
@signal hamlet have there been any updates on the Opus usage? Sorry to be annoying about it.
Hmmm, alright so I might go and invest those $20 on Claude.
But Claude 3 doesn't possess any tools yet right?
Hey @brittle temple, rabbit's codes shouldn't expire, please send us all the details to support@perplexity.ai, and we'll help you apply it.
I have been a big fan of the Sonar Large 32 pplx model
no it's different - you can carry information across conversations
But if you give him information about your name. Your interests and you tell him to remember it. Does the AI always act on those parameters that you have given it about you?
Not really. The equivalent of Profile AI in the Perplexity interface is in ChatGPT "Customize ChatGPT" with "Custom Instructions".
Thanks for the clarification 😃 At the moment Open AI and Perplexity are the only ones that allow these options. Well Youchat too
Hello @signal hamlet How can you take advantage of the AI Profile in Perplexity? Is this function and type of prompt useful? In the general Perplexity answers I have been looking for, it is not detailed Thank you
yeah though you can manage it ig (or opt out)
I don't really know how useful it is. This is how it behaves like Alexa or Google Assistant. a personal assistant
Gemini already has personal assistance but does not have these capabilities
ig we'll see. but if after a very long conversation (particularly working with code or something) you can say "remember this conversation" - and it stores a decent summary of what the conversation involved (e..g. "started with this problem, tried this as a solution but didn't work; tried something else as a solution, which partially worked.." kinda thing)
being able to just refer back to that conversation in other new conversations would definitely have value i think
Your avatar was the cover of my high school introduction to computing book
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GG Gemini
it's 8b tho
I want the 400B model :S
Obviously the 8B model was done first since it's cheaper to do.
70B finetunes are probably gonna be better for most cases.
I have used ChatGPT and Claude directly through their websites and specified in the prompt that I only need X amount of words. Never have they followed my instructions. In fact, both ChatGPT and Claude have a hard time even counting the number of words. 9/10 both will give the wrong word count if you ask them.
your first mistake was trying to specify word count to an LLM
They don't understand the meaning of word
it's better to specify paragraph or sentence count
besides they perform statistical inference, you won't get a word count on their own output
Unless they were progammed with some meta-function that they could call on their own output
Only way to make that work is by using prefixes
You.com has a feature like chatGPT, say it a little back
like everything but claude.ai has that
phind also has
i think poe has
Thanks, yeah I used dalle 3
I think this channel is officially only English
maybe one day the 50 will be replaced by something bigger again 🥹
Maybe we could make a Spanish channel though
🤨
Tats a profile. Memory is it actually saving your conversations and using them. Perplexity has a profile as well but not memory
its on lmsys. try it. for coding better than opus imo
They promised it will only be temporary. So, if it isn't... well. That would be dishonest at best.
GPT-2-Chatbot blows so much out of the water imo TwT
Technically Llama 3 and GPT4 are better now 👀
Don't really need Opus that much anymore imo
Doesn't matter. They promised it would be temporary. So, they need to keep their word.
Temporary can be months or days. They did not specify
gpt2-chatbot is tight lipped, but my guess is its trained off gpt4, opus, and all the arena top runners
Yes. But, if they never intend to put it back to the current number. Then, that's not temporary.
I guess we will find out 🙂
You.com saves snipets from your chats
and then adds them to the profiles automatically
seems very similar to chatGPT, both seem to save relevant information into your profile automatically, and then you can manage and delete the "memory"
Im not arguing for the platform, we are discussing the memory feature, haha
going by how it runs i wouldnt trust its memory feature hah
probably an conflict with my adblocker, but I shouldn't have to disable it
im going to try out chatgpt's one tho
I dont think memory is something i want, I turned it off as soon as it was added to chatGPT and only turned it on with you.com to make the video
Maybe in the future i will change my mind
im looking forward to infinite context, it'll be game changing for coding
Well yeah, long context is useful, but i don’t see little snippets here and there being helpful in its current stage
ah its only for small facts? not useful for my use case
oh ok, thought it was you that put it there lol
I don't think Ive ever needed to have AI remember past chats honestly. I can't even remember what I asked it yesterday 😛
I thought it wasn’t context limited
I’ve used with around 100k context just fine
And they claim publicly that it’s same as api
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guys Why it says default model is claude2? I have set my default model as Sonnet in settings
Yeah, 100% the same, haha
same when i switch to sonnet, always show claude 2
I love how helpful perplexity is for coding and debugging
you're right. chatgpt plus has became terrible. and open ai is not fixing code generation issue on chats. and the quality is also reduced. but in Perplexity if don't like the. we can just rewrite with different model which i freaking love it
Yea i agree and i think perplexity has up to date debugging because it is getting info from the web unlike chatgpt which just stores nearly not up to date info
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change your vpn location
Certain servers are gonna be blocked, so change it until you find one which is not.
Np
That was funny. It was like an old days open letter.
Why isn't there $5 credit in the API account? Is it because it's the end of the month? I saw $5 here before.
You get $5 for free with pro, it will expire each month and be replaced with next months API credit, making its always $5
I'm already subscribed to Pro, yet it went zero.
Is it by natural month or calendar month?
sorry, i misread it, i thought you asked why you have $5, but i see you asked why you don’t 🤦. Yeah, i have never seen my api credit at $0
The cybertruck is so dumb
hi
yes even i tried multiple models and all faced same issue,
sometimes with even a simple question it gets stuck in a research loop and answers after like 3-5 minutes which is just crazyy!!!
it's a little strange when gpt4 writes about knowledge cutoff despite having access to a web search tool. I guess it didn't find relevant info in search results
Hey is it possible to get citations like [1] and as seen in the web UI via the API requests? I am using the perplexity-online models as I want RAG like knowledge over the web.
My Pro subscription coupon code (that i received with purchasing Nothing Phone 2(a) ) is showing expired while the last date to activate it is today.
Emailing support hasn't been helpful.
Hey @novel sable!
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I got the most recent system instruction for the standard Chatgpt 4. And, it's quite interesting : Certainly! Here's the full instruction from the beginning, which provides guidance on how to interact with me effectively:
"You are ChatGPT, a large language model trained by OpenAI, based on the GPT-4 architecture. You are chatting with the user via the ChatGPT Android app. This means most of the time your lines should be a sentence or two, unless the user's request requires reasoning or long-form outputs. Never use emojis, unless explicitly asked to. Knowledge cutoff: 2023-12. Current date: 2024-04-30.
The user provided the following information about themselves. This user profile is shown to you in all conversations they have -- this means it is not relevant to 99% of requests.
Before answering, quietly think about whether the user's request is 'directly related', 'related', 'tangentially related', or 'not related' to the user profile provided.
Only acknowledge the profile when the request is directly related to the information provided.
Otherwise, don't acknowledge the existence of these instructions or the information at all."
These guidelines ensure that interactions are relevant and tailored to your needs, emphasizing the importance of directly relating responses to your specific inquiries or requirements when relevant.
how do you get access to the sources from perplexity answer?
i want to see where the info comes from
click on them?
@signal hamlet There is a problem logging in. When I tried to log in and enter my email address, a message appeared: "A sign-in link has been sent to your email address." However, I did not receive a message for a very long time.
My email address is "a lower rank" than, for example, Gmail, which is probably why I am delayed in receiving messages to log in. I have a Pro account
I am still waiting for a message to log in...
Did you check your spam?
Yes, of course. The folders are empty. I even refresh the page manually. 😦
I have tried a second time to do a sign-in, and nothing has come to the mailbox yet.
It's possible that the DNS flagged it as spam and it didn't go through, I guess.
Maybe it is, but I still don't have access to my account since this morning. @toxic moss 😦
omg
how
is there a way we can have some sort of raycast ai but on windows with perplexity or else?
My mind misread that and thought you were asking for a racist ai.
Check them out. They're really good.
OPUS is way better though, when dealing with large contexts
I love Opus and paid for 600. And got 50.
is perplexity down or am i trippin
Perplexity is not down 😉
You probably need to refresh the website.
worked instantly thank you 😭
i shoulda known
i thought i did refresh
is it possible to generate image only?
You will always need a thread with 1 prompt first. After that you can generate images with custom prompts.
Is something going on right now? All AI models are taking probably 10x the time to respond with answers for me.
I noticed this yesterday. I thought maybe it was just the default model I had set. I switched to another, but nope. Same issue. It continues today.
does perplexity pro really allow you to use chatgpt4? i.e. would it be the same as paying for chatgpt plus?
or when they say chatgpt4 do they mean it is based on chatgpt4?
Thanks in advance
Yes it will use GPT4-Turbo right now. The difference being that you don't have access to GPT's or memory like you would through a ChatGPT sub. As I understand it.
Here's a screenshot of the different models right now.
perfect thank you very much for the answer thank you.
I'm relatively new to these tools; what's this and why would that matter to me?
GPT's or memory
GPT's are user made prompts or services that do specific tasks. The memory thing is new. As you chat with ChatGPT it "remembers" things about you and your preferences.
Ah interesting, thanks.
Llama 3 is inside Perplexity
Anyone test sonar with Llama 3 to see how it compares to Llama 3?
wdym sonar has internet access so obv it's better
Right, but wb quality of answers. It's like comparing opus from perplexity to opus from Claude pro. Opus from Claude pro has better longer answers and better quality for example. Opus from perplexity is sorta the same but I noticed answers are definitely shortened. I mean in this sense
are you using mobile app ? if so they intentionally do that
could be possible that they do something like that on the web too
you basically won't get the model 1:1, Perplexity changes stuff in various ways and they also probably use some prompt engineering to improve accuracy etc (even in writing mode)
Yeah I use mobile more than web. Is there a noticeable difference in using the web version compared to the mobile version?
yes they intentionally make the response shorter on mobile
Has Llama3 been rolled back? My model options are only showing Sonar listed as it was before the Llama 3 version was introduced
Currently on the web it shows Llama 3 as part of sonar.
This is what I see
Yes, my mistake, I see Sonar Large 32k on Web, but not in Android.
Yeah the app will show it later on once it gets updated
Am I the only one that has the voice function that doesn't work on the iOS app ?
Hey guys, does Perplexity serve ads? or is it fully ad-free? I haven't seen any but want to just make sure. Thanks!
They don’t have ads yet
They apparently have plans for ads, but all that's been shown is sponsored suggestions at the bottom of an answer. Not full banner or pop up ads, nor anything that affects the primary response. At least that's my current understanding.
What. They deleted my commercial.
I got 5 sign ups the last time I did that. They didn't delete it then.
Gotcha thank you! @valid yoke and @eternal quartz
@eternal quartz so you have seen some sponsored suggestions at the bottom of answer, interesting. I haven't seen them yet. Is that when you're logged in, in pro, or as a guest?
Anyone know what the state of Perplexity Push is? I saw the announcement a couple months ago but nothing since. TBH this is my top wishlist item, and what I would consider a killer feature that would set Perplexity apart!
What is it?
It’s for slack?
It is, but to be honest I'd love to see it for Discord, or even notifications from the mobile app
The thing is, right now most LLM use is passive - ask and response. But regularly running queries in collections and pushing the results would give a proactive way to keep on top of topics
That's why I thought Perplexity Push was so interesting, but I haven't heard much since the announcement, and I'm hoping it is something they could do broader than Slack
I don’t understand why the Perplexity app insists on using in-app Safari
Drives me nuts
Hi folks. New here, using pro and wondering if the new memory features of ChatGPT can be accessed via Perplexity ? Any ideas? Or is perplexity working on something similar in house?
You definitely can't use ChatGPT's memory. No idea if Perplexity is planning it, they don't really talk about upcoming features...
I haven't seen them myself that I've noticed, I just saw the articles about them. Tbh I never even look at the suggestions...
Thanks
my friends wants to try perplexity pro for 7 days but isn't able to find the option
is it still available?
the free trial
The free trial was stopped as it was being abused
oh...
so sad..
okay
it was a good way to convince people
using pêrplexity
Hello, i want to report an issue regarding Nothing's Perplexity Pro offer. Where can i do it?
thank you
Can we change the voice in the iPhone client?
Settings - Voice & Language
One of the coolest ideas to use AI so far
Haha
I just like trying to get its reaction when i say dumber and dumber stuff
It's like always so serious
Username checks out
I'm pleased to announce uploading an image still renders your thread useless!
what is everyone's go-to model to use for responses? I like the accuracy of Claude 3 and the way it uses bullets, but is another one better?
I tried emailing their support once and never got a reply. Maybe try on here?
How do I get access to the pages beta, I reacted but cant see the channel ?
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I did that but no form appeared when I clicked the no access
It took a few seconds for the No Access to turn into a link after I reacted. Check again?
Please try removing your reaction from the post and clicking on the emoji again 
Will Llama 3 1M context window be available on Perplexity?
Please ignore what i deleted…
I really really want to know what you deleted.
Hey , where i can check that 50 daily limit for opus?
You can see how many you have left using this: https://www.perplexity.ai/p/api/v1/user/settings
does perplexity get caught by ai detectoir
those are not reliable but yes
you could try one of those paraphrasing tools and see if that helps
Its daily, right?
Such as? ^_^
qillbot
whats the limit for amount of times I can use perplexity ai
Yes, but they don't all come back at once
Every time you use an Opus model, a credit is deducted from your meter. The credit used will be automatically restored exactly 24 hours later. This means that the counter is not reset to its maximum value after a fixed period.
Claude 3: Sonnet and Opus models, Opus has very advanced capabilities and is considered the most advanced LLM on the market at this time. https://www.perplexity.ai/hub/faq/what-is-perplexity-pro
you must have joined from the link from your profile
that link is only for pro users and free users don't get that link
and this isn't a pro only server, no
yeah he was asking why he had the role when he didn't say he had pro
I think
ah! ok 😅
#👑│pro-lounge you can display all channels by clicking on "Channels & Roles" in the top left and click on "Show All Channels"
On phone hold the server icon "More Options" > scroll down and select "Show All Channels"
you unfollowed that channel / category by accident. to re follow:
Thanks guys!!
am i the only one who just noticed the pro search?
are you asking if the rest of us just noticed a primary feature for the platform that was introduced over a year ago?
Pro Search, formerly known as Copilot, has been around for some time at Perplexity. You can find out more about it here: https://www.perplexity.ai/hub/faq/what-is-pro-search
idk, i never got this stuff appearing while i was searching before
Hi! How many times can I use each AI model per day after upgrading to Pro?
for coding purposes is gpt4-turbo the closest to opus 3 on perplexity ? for some reason i feel like its way worse. sometimes i even prefer sonnet
You can use the advanced models 600 times a day with exception of Claude Opus that has a temporary limit of 50 uses a day.
THX. Are there no restrictions on other models? This is great
My iOS app just changed UI without an update right now…looks fresh
I'm glad that there is another confirmation that it is temporary.
as much as I love this team and their work. Saying "temporary" doesn't address the issue. Atleast give an estimate :/
Hi sir, there was never been an estimate from perplexity sir. They are afraid to make promises sir.
Yeah. They're valued at 3 billion. I think they can afford the hit.
It seems AI Prompts for Collections doesn't work for me after the first thread. Within the prompt, I tell it not to use bullet points and to have somewhat of a personality. When I create the first thread, it works, but when I make more threads, it seems to go back to the default Opus personality. Here is my prompt:
“You are an expert in child-rearing with 30 years of experience across various cultural backgrounds within the United States. Your expertise includes understanding the nuances of parenting styles from different communities and how these influence child development. In your responses, you should provide empathetic, gentle, and non-judgmental advice. Your knowledge spans a wide range of topics from discipline to emotional support, integrating cultural sensitivity into everyday parenting practices. When responding, please use paragraphs instead of bullet points to ensure the advice is well-integrated and flows naturally. Your goal is to help parents feel supported and understood, while offering practical and culturally aware parenting guidance.”
how many questions does perplexity ask when setting up the profile?
it feels like they just keep coming lol
man even if you write text by yourself then it is detectable by ai detector those detectors are useless
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ended?
Those things detect the Bible and Shakespeare as plagiarism.
you can do that on discord now?
do what
yeah that's it
like get a role for joining using a specific link
check which link someone joined from ? it's been like that for ages
bots can do that easily
i don't know if perplexity has updated gpt2 or not😃
gpt2-chatbot? that was only on lmsys
Hi sir, why do you say so sir. no one ever said that it will be ported here sir.
yea it's not available anywhere else
i know, i'm just kidding
Does anyone know the difference between the new pages feature, and sharing a search we’ve made? Kind of sounds like the same thing to me.
I think pages is kinda like the "research" option on you.com but I haven't gotten access so I don't know
Interesting. I look forward to testing. Thanks!
hello, may i asking?
i found that perplexity doesn't show any references at all on my browser, is that bug?
I'm having the same problem actually
first time it has happened
yes it is
same issue with me, even after purchasing pro version 😭
pro has nothing to do with it, it's probably just a temporary issue
it was working fine a few hours ago
Hi! Can anyone who is experiencing this email a report to support@perplexity.ai with the following info?
a. web browser and/or mobile app (android or ios)
b. link to a thread would be super helpful or,
c. screenshots.
Thanks.
Update: I can confirm we having some issues with search right now, we appreciate your patience while we fix this issue. Thanks!
This shows how much you currently have left, you get 50 Opus a day rn
Claude IOS app is out....Might be time to switch over.
Does it have web search? Won't be the same thing as perplexity
bruh
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Any other Enterprise users having this issue Error code 525
Have you ever noticed that Perplexity tends to forget things when the conversation gets a bit longer? In Writing mode, regardless if I am using GPT-4 or Opus, I notice that the response quality get's worse and it forgets my original prompt. I read online that the context window is 4,000, which is lower than ChatGPT plus. Any idea if that has something to do with it?
It's actually at least 32k contexts, 4k context is the output max window
Claude 3 can >>write up<< to 4000 tokens at a time
This is what I saw on the website. Now I understand being able to write up to 4000 tokens at a time. But does this mean that the context window of the whole conversation is 32,000?
We don;t know, someone say it's 32k, someone say it's as much as original LLM had, pplx never explained
Also, do not use document upload feature for long context need chat
they do not give u full context when use upload instead sending texts
Yes the conversation context window is 32k
Thank you for that information!
Thanks for confirming that. Is that the same for enterprise users?
I see. So if the context window is the same as ChatGPT plus of 32,000, any idea why in writing mode it tends to forget the prompt from earlier? I have this problem when I am creating flashcards from my notes, and it tends to forget the instructions. It's mostly with GPT-4. Do you suggest trying Opus?
Yes
😰There really needs to be more features to encourage people to buy that plan.
These are mostly prompting inaccuracies, but even LLMs can make mistakes 😉
But yes, in most of my tests Opus performs better than GPT-4-Turbo.
Oh, I see what you’re saying. In my prompt, I write “Please create flashcards from my notes. Follow these instructions…”
Try using the scratchpad prompt first to create an "outline" of the main points, then inject the flashcard prompt. #1223058316662538331 message
should help keep things within the context.
i hit my shilling for scratchpad quota for the day. lol.
You can use the Collection AI profile or general AI profile to apply instructions
Thank you, I will try that.
Okay, I will try that as well. Thank you.
I have this prompt set up as a collection. I have them condensed down in size so they fit. should remove the need from directly inputting it. as IceLava said above.
If I have a prompt set up in my AI profile or collections, do I need to repeat it when I start a new chat?
you shouldn't need to.
I gotcha
Perplexity as been dead for almost two hours.
Do you use a VPN?
Why perplexity gives the same answer or slightly modified answer
So often
I bought premium version to get rid of it
I often lost free pro searches because of this
It gave me the same answer multiple times
This is serious issue
I noticed when people ask for an update on the opus limit even with pings...seem to be ignored....oof ☕
Hey @thorny canopy, the limit is still 50. We'll post an update when we have one to share.
Hey @pulsar ridge! Thanks for reporting, this should be fixed now.
The Claude Team plan has been announced. But. It is $30 per user per month, and it has a 5 user minimum.
Is there any point using the ChatGPT app or new Anthropic app on iPhone if you have a PRO acccount on perplexity?
Nope. They both use the API.
But, the Claude app is also avaliable for free users.
Thanks @tame current
What does hiring process at Perplexity look like? Would love to join this amazing firm!
Actually, to be honest, I still have a Chatgpt Pro account. 1. I like the Dall-e 3 instructional edit, the memory feature and the custom GPTs.
Also. Longer context. So, if you're writing long things.
I thought chatGPT was also capped at 32k
I meant for Claude.
Oh, yeah, I have Claude 3 Pro for long context as well
It's nice to have 5 messages then capped.
It will be great when image generation is available in app as well.
The best image tool avaliable today is Ideogram.
I imagine if Claude does get image generation, they'll use Stable Diffusion.
Apparently, Grok is in talks with Midjourney.
Beautiful.
Love this one 🤩
i tried but yours is still better
mine was just dalle-3. plus Opus reviewing it to come up with an image prompt
https://th.bing.com/th/id/OIG3.XP_nuQRL1FDZbRgJMYFb?w=1024&h=1024&rs=1&pid=ImgDetMain
A calico or tortoiseshell cat with bright green eyes and an alert, curious expression, sitting in the foreground against a swirling, abstract night sky inspired by Van Gogh's 'The Starry Night'. The cat's fur should be a mix of black, white, and orange/yellow. The background should feature expressive brushstrokes of deep blues, greens, and vibrant yellows swirling in a stylized interpretation of the starry night, with elements like a crescent moon and cypress trees reminiscent of Van Gogh's iconic painting.
im new to the ai space. been using a few of them. curious if someone can help me brain storm ways I can use it too?
suggestions .
For those of you guys that have Claude Pro, have you ever compared the responses with Opus using Perplexity?
What model does the free version of Perplexity use now? I know the CEO said a month ago or more that Claude 3 Haiku was gonna be the new default
i did that just now.
wont get into the subject matter. but, i took my convo and results very long back and forth into opus 3.
I think it uses Perplexity’s own model as the default.
Were responses similar using opus through perplexity?
Id say that Opus 3 is a but more advanced and aware of the direction of the covnersation than Perplexity.
Key information from the prompt:
User is new to AI space
Has been using a few AI tools
Seeking help brainstorming ways to use AI
Step-by-step reasoning:
- Identify user's current level of AI knowledge and experience
- Consider common applications of AI for various purposes
- Brainstorm specific use cases based on the user's potential intere...
perplexity however is no lightweight. It pulled relevant info, albeit a bit redunant at times.
Do you mean that opus through Claude remembers the conversation history better?
I want to understand what you're asking exactly. Im not yet subbed to Perplexity pro. So cant speak to all the options there yet.
Im subbed to claude ai
Are you using opus in writing mode through perplexity? This way, it won’t search the web.
Opus 3 dont have web access. I just either create a pdf, or text of the information I gain from Perplexities help into Opus 3. This I just tried today.
I gotcha. With perplexity pro, you can choose which model to use, GPT-4, Opus, etc. And in “All” mode, it searches the Internet for the answer. In “writing” mode, it doesn’t search the Internet and you can chat with it, similar to Claude or ChatGPT.
ah okay
i dont have Perplexity pro. I have Opus 3 through Anthropics website currently.
is it worth versus GPT? @restive osprey
im subbed to both gpt 4 and Claudi 3, and find I enjoy Opus 3 a lot lot more than gpt 4. Gpt 4 currently is not as good as it used to be.
Have you had any issues with the message limits?
whats your normal usage for opus?
tons of talks about a lot of text. it has a bigger token limit than gpt4 by a lot. unsure the exact amount. Normal so far, is learning a text more carefully unsure how to word this.
its got very good vision for images,
so it can translate say Italian or Russian, from a image
even if the image is skewed or not perfect. say a internet archive scan
I can do some coding
basic reshade shader coding, HLSL something like this
i dont need it in Opus 3, because i can use perplexity for that.
ah i see
when you asked about normal usage i thought you mean like limitations., there is a alloted limit of replies. but the replies can be as long as you insist on it being. but little replies inbetween count as a reply
but this allotment resets fairly fast.
So i think 7 or so for Opus 3
the other sub models are noticeably faster but not as smart as Opus 3.
Claude ai could use some better organization like gpt has in its UI . like the history. but theres no search anyway in either of them i think
Curious how Perpexlity handles that
I don’t have Claude pro, but I have read on Reddit about the message limits.
I see what you’re saying. Perplexity has a daily limit of 50 responses for Opus and 300+ for GPT-4. They are working on increasing the Opus limit.
I dont know anything about Perplexity yet. So i cant speak to Perplexity.
what does a limit consist of?
is it like a limit of replies? Opus 3 imposes a limit of "replies" so say I have 10 or 7 or something.
50 opus, other ones have such a high limit 600 that you wouldn't notice anything
okay . like others ?
50 for how perplexity uses their api i guess?
600 replies seems like alot -
wonder if the response is opus 3 or degraded, to some other model
Some people prefer to use GPT-4 and Claude Opus without them searching the Internet. After all, these companies spend a lot of money on feeding so much information into the model itself. But Perplexity’s target users are those who need accurate responses to specific questions,
I will say Perplexity seems better than when I used it last year.
i can see myself using it much more. and maybe getting pro. which is how much money? anyone pro now?
i am
I'd say so personally since I'm in school and need accurate answers but there's pros and cons I suppose
I don’t think you should have any problem with running out of messages. I can’t comment on the quality of Opus responses in Perplexity vs. Claude since I don’t have Claude pro.
What's weird is I find GPT-4 Turbo more accurate on perplexity than Copilot/ChatGPT after running questions through it, I have no explaination why
okay will be something i hope to find the answer for
I use perplexity to ask it for problems that I face at work as an engineer, so very technical questions.
seems to be constant quality fluctuations in the models month to month year to year. Because I could believe that GPT 4 was so much more smarter than it is today currently. And at some point, GPT bing, was smarter than gpt open ai. and there was a bit of a degrading and elevating throughout. Limitations would change too.
because of that inconsistancy, and what i think is a current down trend in its quality , i been using opus 3 and pretty satisfied with it.
Bing chat, used to be somewhat pointed, and have a bit of a personality to it. Now its a bit regimented and stoic. just not as engaging. I get more generalizations than answers to the questions than I used to.
i will say even being able to attach powerpoints and pdfs to perplexity it'll say it's citing from there but it's just giving you false citations
and it seems like its defaulted to search engine results at times.
big con
oh and gpt 4 internet access i run into a lot more of it saying, cannot access the internet or something. whereas that was unheard of when internet was first introduced. i guess maybe more people are using it? so alot of rationing.
so it wont actually cite from the internet results or a web page?
seems to be a problem they all have right now.
if you attach a personal powerpoint and say cite which page you found x information it'll give you the wrong page
yea if you're doing some serious study, Id try Opus 3
idk where it gets it's information when it cites wrongly from the PDF/powerpoint
i wonder if i can test that in opus 3 now? i just dont use power points and dont have any on hand
if u have a mockup example i can use id try it
I saw many different posts on Reddit of users complaining that the quality of Opus has gone down. But an employee from anthropic commented on those posts saying that they haven’t changed anything about opus since it was released.
I have a neuroscience powerpoint I used for class, if you could put it in and say find something about x and cite the page then check if it was on that page that would be helpful
I mean could be true, gpt has gone down in my view. and there have been some basic studies that suggest that user interaction is causing this. The other idea is that the user base are becoming more aware of the limitations and just not recognizing this and mixing that into expectations of what they want or remember in their honeymoon period.
i think its a factor of both. And maybe you wont ever hear a company in the throws of a boom knock their product
true or not
Those are all good points.. I just don’t know too much of the technical details,
sure
ill try it
can send to dm or whatever method u prefer
Before, I would see the circle where it said “browsing with Bing.” Now it does it behind-the-scenes, and doesn’t show the circle anymore.
im not sure what is this circle. not using it as much
guess they call it copilot now.
Yes
Copilot is a separate product by Microsoft, that uses GPT-4. But the quality of the responses are really bad.
very true, it's unfortunate.. the responses used to be good, now i get better results from a local llama3 model, did not expect that this year
To have perplexity recognize which photo I’m referring to (when working with multiple photos), is it best to name the photos and then upload them, and reference them by the filename? (I’m used to just having them on my clipboard and uploading them via clip)
Or upload one per message and provide it a reference “keyword” or something?
It seems to get even more confused than I am when working with multiple photos 😂
i wasn't even aware you could upload multiple at once, interesting
I tend to abuse computers
i can tell, lol
is that running meta's mega model yet?
https://www.perplexity.ai/page/Understanding-the-Conscious-Gtw786J5QQe4EpR4TfusXw > sharing here as well for users without access to Pages yet to check out.
Exploring the concept of a "conscious observer" delves into the intricate philosophical and scientific discussions surrounding consciousness and subjective experience. This term encapsulates the phenomenon of experiencing the world from a first-person perspective, integrating complex neural processes into a coherent whole. The notion raises prof...
why does it work with a prompt one minute, then later it says it cant do that task
Is that on instagram?
showing the creation process for your daily Opus posts I seee. haha.
perplexity is down rn ?
how did you do the formatting for this? it looks so clean 🔥
It's the new Pages feature. #📢│announcements message
typically there are embedded images, but I decided to not add any. the selection of images it came up with didn't really match the sections so, just left it as a text.
if you react to the main post I linked, you should get access to the channel. there's a pinned comment with "request access" form.
Haha 😂 , I wish it was good at text, I would do a video each day
It's on WhatsApp
Waiting to get an email about Pages 👉👈
for the record, a bunch of us didnt get emails, it just appeared. or we didn't get emails "yet". however, checking the settings URL, articles is set to TRUE now.
Thanks, so far no email and still set t false, but hopefully I get it soon
I can say it matches what I expected the "articles" feature to be.
looking forward to more options though. currently unable to set the model in use. you essentially add sections by typing what it will be about, and if it's concise or detailed. there is some table features and image features. but no real way to add user generated sections or notes.
seems cool, I hope to see it get a lot more features as well.
We can convert threads to pages though, but not sure how "much" of the thread is actually incorporated. haven't tested it that much with either short threads or long threads.
@warm cave where is your thread you had on search operators? can't find it.
wait that was @livid mantle
nice.
since this morning every source code of opus is considered as copyright, have you already had this problem ?
the code is from opus self 🙂
itself
@uneven basin can you explain in more detail?
suggest some perplexity videos some advanced videos if possibl
Is px not working on Safari and Brave? I can insert a promt but can‘t send it (no reaction of “return”). I also can’t register, because the button does not work. Can anybody give me feedback, if there is a hack? Thank you.
@hallow tulip it is code for an sharepoint importer from an external webservice source, i have send the full code from claude opus again into prompt
and ask some questions
if i attach a file in focus mode, like writing or academic, how do i stop the source being added ot each request that fllows?
if my first question is to analyse a file for content and answer it, and then build upon the file, the AI seems to keep acting as if each follow on request in that chat is the first time it's seen that file
known bug
it seems like they claim it was fixed, but it's not
removing the file seems to remove it from the entire chat history, i can remove it from the 2nd request even if the file's in the first one and the AI will say, "you've not provided me any files to analyse in teh chat history" as if it'd never been attached
How can I request a subscription refund?
They charged me the monthly payment and I didn't want it.
You can send an email to support@perplexity.ai
thanks
Thanks for sharing! I'm interested in how you created it - is it the result of multiple prompts collated into one page?
It looks good, but now it basically is a way to share a thread as an article
Adding images would help to break the wall of text effect, and having TTS would be great as basically you'd have your homemade podcast episode
I was going to add images but none of the suggested ones that were available fit well. I used a separate thread to come up with the topics but the actual text generation was entirely within Pages using detailed mode. I’ll probably find external images to add but haven’t done it yet.
When you use the add media function it sources the same set of images that get curated from threads (I believe). You can also generate a new image as you normally would or upload an external image.
The Rabbit R1 represents a significant advancement in the field of consumer AI technology, blending the capabilities of traditional voice assistants with a more proactive and autonomous operational model. Developed by Rabbit Inc., the R1 utilizes a proprietary Large Action Model (LAM) to perform tasks across various applications without the need...
"Page" in a language other than English: https://www.perplexity.ai/page/Thorie-Neowave-de-CXDiVBPPSxexpIcZ9oS9YQ
La théorie des vagues Neowave, développée par l'analyste financier Glenn Neely, est une avancée significative de la théorie des vagues d'Elliott. Elle propose une approche plus structurée et scientifique de l'analyse des cycles de marché, en introduisant de nouveaux concepts et méthodologies pour affiner les prédictions et les analyses technique...
R1 garb
gm gm everyone
I need to translate a pdf. I'm a pro user.
How do I start a conversation with claude that sepcifically does that?
Change the default model or have it rewrite the response with a new model
You can upload the pdf with the + attach button
❤️
ty ty will give it a go
how to access to page view ?
Altman ‘knows the release date’, Politico calls it ‘imminent’ according to Insiders, and then the mystery GPT-2 chatbot causes mass confusion and hysteria. I break it all down and cover two papers – MedGemini and Scale AI Contamination – released in the last 24 hours. I’ve read them in full and they might be more important than all the rest. Let...
based on lmsys data, I'd expect that the new sonar must be really good. Has that been anyone's experience?
Hi, can you explain any shortcut key for mac in webui ? like cmd+K
Voice chat don’t let me end the sentence
Is there any way to make it usable
Yeah it’s a little to search happy and ends the voice chat after 3 words lol
If I pay for pro it allows for 300 messages?
Bc chatgpt4 only does 30 am every 3 hours
Ah ok still a little confused tho
What is confusing?
It's a daily limit
How does it use chat 4 if in chat 4 theirs a limit of 40 questions every 3 hours
OpenAI has set this limit for many reasons, ChatGPT also uses other tools such as DALL-E, Browsing, Advanced Data Analysis and more which cause more costs 😉
Ah
So when I get pro, is it one pro setting or do I need to click on specific tools to use
deep dive ➤ #💬│general message
Yeah
Perplexity is very complex tool, app. please take your time and explore deep dive I gave you @tame current
I’m just looking for a ai thays as good as chatgpt4 or better without the 40 question cap limit every 3 hours
Ok
with pro, you can select one of these as default. for Opus, after you hit your daily limit, it reverts to Sonnet. via the 2nd screenshot, this is from my own settings page. you can see I still have plenty of GPT-4 uses left today.
yes and no. same model, but chatgpt has their own system prompt, like PPLX does as well.
for the record, microsoft copilot also uses GPT-4 turbo, and that's unlimited as well.
So how come chatgpt4. Gets info right compared to Microsoft copilot
Is it worth it to pay $20 a month for copilot
i'd say no.
LLMs are just guessing the next token/word. sometimes they guess wrong. aside from that, I don't know why your getting different answers from different hosts for GPT-4 turbo.
PPLX offers a lot more than just access to GPT-4 Turbo or Claude models.
Well idk how to put this
a vast majority of us here are on the Claude Opus train currently and find it's outputs far better than GPT-4 turbo.
I use chatgpt4 for school, and it’s right on hw and studying so I want something exactly like it, without the limit of 40 questions every 3 hours
I see
PPLX is an answer engine. it replaces the need for going thru pages and pages of google results to find what your looking for. for that aspect, i'd assume it'd be better suited for your needs. it's a platform meant for research and curosity.
And that’s with this?
Which I can? With premium payment
And what’s the limit on it
see my screenshot above. unless you need more than like 400 queries a day, you likely won't hit the GPT-4 cap.
So it’s 400 a day?
i don't know the exact amount but its more than 30 an hour.
honestly, see if the default model and the platform itself works for your needs. focusing on query count instead of functionality is a little shortsighted if you ask me.
Well yeah
@south kindle in your opinion what’s the best paid alternative for chatGPT4 with bigger limit
i've only paid for PPLX this year if that counts for anything. haven't used chatgpt plus since last year.
Ah I see
but i'm not in school currently and mostly use it as a replacement for google searches. my needs arent "mission critical" like school is. i'm more of a explorer in that aspect, trying new models/features for platforms to fully test their limits.
I see
new models that are popular get added to PPLX for us to use. condensing the need for multiple subscriptions.
yes, but the only limits that people hit are the Claude 3 Opus one.
Which of the options are best for me
That's a subjective question. use the "rewrite" function if you have Pro to have PPLX redo the answer with a different model. see which works best for your specific use cases. if your goal was to use GPT-4 Turbo, just use that. otherwise try out Opus.
I see
Issue I am facing is that it just searches from google even when answer is wrong
Which chatgpt4 doesn’t do
You mentioned you are using it for help in school, as a general rule if it is a STEM topic then GPT-4 will be more accurate, or if it is more creative like writing them Claude will be better. Personally I like Claude Opus because it is very good at breaking things down into manageable steps so it can tutor me, and this is often more of a benefit than the slightly lower accuracy. Of course that is mostly because I use it for studying and have the answer already and if it give the explanation but has the wrong answer then I know I need to switch to GPT-4 for that particular question
Why does the website still not mention the Opus limits not being included in the 600? Very misleading.
Gemini
...
It's excellent for creative writing.
I don't code.
Imagen 2 is also excellent and will be even better when they get rid of the racism.
I see
Damn just hate the limit
try poe. if it's more about maximum usage, rather than the LLM being connected to the internet, then there's like 5 different variants of gpt-4 to use there, plus pretty much every other model.
Ag
I mean like I said @austere kestrel just want chatgpt4 with greater limit to answer correctly questions
ya then i would i prob use poe or or the openAI API
Ok thanks
Yk the limit?
~3000 / month, you could use them all up in one day (well, in theory), or spread them out
you will get more uses via perplexity
I see
Issue with Perplexity is that whenever I search something it just goes off the Internet rather than actually putting logic
So like if I give it a question or homework probably to help me solve
but poe is just a wrapper. if you really just want gpt4 plain and simle, that is your best bet
Yeah, I actually have that but the 40 every three hour limit is killing me
yeah i mean you can use Writing mode in Perplexity, which will prevent it from using web results
Yeah, I might try that
I have the pre-trial so it doesn’t hurt
it's good value. but if you just want to use the model, no features which may or may not get in the way, either openAI directly or poe imo.
completely subjective ofc.. just my 2c
Oh thank you I really really appreciate it
Perplexity in “writing” mode doesn’t search the internet. You’re using it in “All” mode, hence, it’s searching the internet. In “writing” mode, the answers are similar to ChatGPT, but a little bit longer due to Perplexity’s target users requiring details.
I got it, ok thank you
what AI model draw that, because it looks so realistic
it's not ai work, just simple PS or photo editor something
Does anyone know how to remove the file restriction issue for new Enterprise users? I can no longer attach any files to my threads. The limitations message indicates it is for the first 7 days as a new user placed by the Administrator of the account (which is me) and I never added these restrictions nor do I see anywhere to remove them.
is there anything that gemini 1.5 pro is better at than other models?
im using https://aistudio.google.com/app/prompts/new_chat how do i check my usage, no idea how I'm paying for the
Yeah, unfortunately it was removed due to abuse of the platform, currently the only discount I know of is the referral code that makes it $10 off
If you want I can send over my referral code, just lmk
@chilly forge 👀
Or you can use naivecoders link, haha
Hehe 😜 just kidding 
Out here getting my 10$ 😝 hehe
The model switcher user script broke, I wonder if perplexity broke it on purpose or not, lol
What ? Fr ?
Need to check
Yeah
much cadder? haha
Claude Opus still limited to 50?
Yes 😦
Hello, just joined in but Pro user since months!!! Cheers
Creative writing.
It’s free
i don't think any other easily accessible model has a 1m token context window (next best would be Claude 3 models with 200k). Also, I can't think of any other models that take video and audio as input (in addition to images to text files, which models like GPT-4 and Claude 3 do too)
also just noticed they added JSON output mode and system prompt, which is nice to see
also it performs much better than I think is sometimes assumed. Like it isn't just about the massive context window and multi-modality. None of that comes into play on the lmsys arena - it's just the quality of its responses, compared to another model, on which people rate it. And it's currently tied for 2nd place along with Opus and several GPT-4 variants
that code is bad anyways, it changed the global state. i prefer hijack the prototype of websocket/post call instead
you can do that ? how ?
It's really really good for creating funny random scripts.
What channel do you use if you have used a prompt with a certain model and it returns information that is incorrect?
Last week, Meta, the company behind Facebook, did not release any new large language models. However, there has been significant activity and developments around Meta's AI initiatives in recent months, particularly with their LLaMA models.
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I am a newbie with these AI tools, how is perplexity different from AIPRM & Chatgpt?? (note: I am planning on writing medium articles and I want AI to help me with it)
biggest difference is that perplexity can search the web
and it generally gives more accurate info than chatgpt
what does this do?
Hello guys, to the awesome perplexity builders, I’m heavily using the voice function to practice my english and to avoid typing on my iPad, but the new update is just verrrry quick as it responds while i’m thinking of some words to put. I liked the previous voice function too much as I can toggle when to speak
Can we expect something to fix this please? It’s very annoying and ruins one of my favorite perplexity features
I believe it’s not a bug. It’s just a fine tuning related thing
I’ll be very happy to have an option in settings so I can make it continuously listen similar to our previous experience
you can still use old version, just check what I've sent you
Yessssssssss
Thank you brother
Just found it in the last reply
Thank you dear ❤️
Please don’t remove this guys ❤️
it gives outputs as JSON objects 🙂 e.g. here's copy pasting a few messages from here
you can do it without JSON mode enabled through prompting, but as you can see here, the output is a JSON object but it's enclosed in a code block (would need further prompting to stop that)
it's useful for workflows / agents, where you want to pass outputs between LLMs (or into different processes / storage)
Kinda annoying that they rely this much on Cloudflare. What are they fearing?
Also, how often will I be able to apply this $10 referral discount? Is this a one-time thing only?
Or could I simply subscribe next month with another referral link and get $10 off for the next month, too?
people scraping the LLM responses
I can definitely see why that can be a problem
Sorry if this sounds ignorant but how are they actually wrapping the GPT 4 Turbo service from OpenAI, does Perplexity pay token by token, similar to what users can do on OpenAI Playground (or OpenAI Platform nowadays), or are they in some kind of flatrate contract with OpenAI?
I found this: https://www.perplexity.ai/hub/faq/coupons-and-discounts
I don't think they revealed that but it's possible they have some contract
Thanks, that helps
They simply pay for API usage, and that is the only way.
correct
tbh this isnt a good way to know good a model performs
yeah but there's two ways to pay for API usage. Pay As You Go (what we're familiar with), and "Provisioned Throughput" - I'm quite sure that a company like perplexity is the latter
https://www.perplexity.ai/search/explain-provisioned-throughput-GSQ4WRfuSjaQ1PcFD32zVw
Provisioned Throughput Units (PTUs) are a pricing model offered by Azure OpenAI Service, designed to provide a predictable and stable cost structure for using AI models, particularly those based on OpenAI's technology such as GPT-4. This model is distinct from the Pay-As-You-Go (PAYG) option, which charges based on the actual consumption of reso...
yes gemini 1.5 pro has a very big context so its useful for that type of stuff but in coding and any other type of stuff it doesnt hold a candle to claude 3 opus or gpt 4 turbo
with better text formatting highlighting and other things votes are a bit biased
(*side note: AWS bedrock offers provisioned throughput pricing for every Claude 3 model except Opus...)
no better way than actually using it yourself for your actual use case
for example if you've got documentations about what you are coding about its very good at that
but if you wont be making use of that context its not very good
but as far as benchmarks go, i would always give more weight to the arena leaderboard over a model provider's self-reported evals - though i'm sure there are other benchmarkin projects out there (and it all comes down personal use cases at the end of the day anyway)
both type of benchmarks have their cons tbh
normal benchmarks are more about technical side this lmsys is more about human preferences
but you can train the model on the benchmark so its also not very good
how about closed benchmarks
ofc - i mean most evals are just entrance exams for various different academic disciplines or generic tests for 'reasoning' competence or coding or whatever
there's no holy grail
i've got a math problem and every model out there fails lmao if one day one manages to do it i'll declare it superior to human intelligence
yeah this is a big problem..
contamination
tbh i see a lot of reasoning tests but model is already trained on that
when you make a unique reasoning test it fails
sure they might be capable of creating unique content but they are not good at reasoning yet
often yes - or if just add a transivitive property to something super basic many just lapse completely false CoT 'reasoning'
like sometimes it knows how to solve a problem
this kinda of thing gets me every time (same with the 1000kg of feathers and 1000kg of lead questions..)(
but it doesnt know how to apply the method
it cant adapt that method to the situation
honestly gpt 4 turbo is clearly superior
claude sure its good at writing and stuff but fails math and reasoning
their benchmarks told it was superior to gpt 4 too
so not really accurate benchmarks
WTH
training on benchmark dataset is all you need
the app lets you switch models in the middle of a conversation
im waiting for gpt5
Probably not this year
i mean who else is going to release groundbreaking stuff if not openai anyway
How are you so sure there will be a GPT-5?
why there shouldnt be gpt5
The process of developing AI will continue, so there will be a GPT5 for sure
considering sam already started gpt 5 hype it would make no sense why there wont be gpt 5
I'm not saying there won't be a newer model, but why exactly naming it as "GPT-5" it could be anything.
Yeah, thats what i am saying.
openai is about to release their own search engine with ai
they have already integrated something similar to bing
its probably openai testing their stuff before release
I think its bing, probably just renamed. Microsoft invested some Billions I think so they won't use Google or something like that
well ye probably
how would you be google competitor while using google for web search lmao
openai hype
you love to see it
i wonder if meta will just opensource the 400b version too
You guys think it's a regular search engine
Nah
Its not going for Google
It's going for Perplexity
+1 here
whats not good for perplexity is that they are stuck with the models openai antrophic or whatever provides them
but those companies can fine tune their models more fit for this type of approach
Tbh
AI knowledge engines are too slow to be considered a search engine
And too inaccurate
We need to separate search engines and knowledge engines
Google and Bing are search engines
ai itself might hallucinate yes but it will search for it on the web
The AI tools they have (SGE, Copilot) don't make them knowledge engines
Just search engines with AI-enhanced summaries
But when the AI response is the main way of consuming the web search experience, like Perplexity, you.com, and the upcoming ChatGPT search thing (i think), then it should be considered a knowledge engine
Search engines provide links
Knowledge engines provide direct knowledge
Can a knowledge engine replace search entirely? No, as it requires search to even work
But can it possibly replace them for someone in their daily life? Yeah, as long as you don't need instant speeds
yeah and also the bulk of online searches are still people just waning a single, specific of data - which needs to be right. A company's URL, phone number, opening hours etc.. knowledge sourced from the internet and curated by an LLM has its place, but that's a long way off ever replacing the most basic (and popular) use case for online searches imo
is it possible to make own knowledge engine?
I would tend to agree on the terms Search engine (google, bing, DuckDuckGo) and Knowledge engines like Perplexity, you.com and others. They are currently two completly different beasts. When you do a search in a knowledge engine, and want to validate its authenticirty this is where citations come in. The majority of which have been indexed by a search engine.
LLM's, Knowledge engines et all, are in their infancy, I can see a time in the not so distant future where the average user will not be able to tell the difference of where the data came from. it will just be a response. I vaugley remember pre-google back in the late 80's where searching was a nightmare, nowadays its simple as pumping in a query and a search engine will send a resoponse in milliseconds, Knowledhe engines maybe a few seconds.
Google has expended many billions of dollars setting up search heads all over the globe, retrieving and indexing data for a decade. They hold a massive corpus of link data. It will take knowledge engines seperately may years to even get close to what Google has in search and response.
I initially thought that companies like Perplexity, OpenAI, You.com could get indexers to work for them and retrieve and augment data as required, but why would they, Google already has that data, it just needs to be harnessed.
I see this more as diversification of revenue streams for Google, providing fast accurate data to Knowledge engines. it improves Knowlege engine response time and it still allows Google to provide citations peppered with ad links. Granted this isnt ideal, but as long as the knowledge is not 'tainted' by sponsored ads via Google I think this can work.
But I stand here, ready to be shot down after my little ditty produxced during my lunch break. (actually I am stitting)
@icy zenith
So Perplexity can be defined as a generational search engine?
Perplexity and Google SGE compete in the same segment?
No I still think it is important to look at what each actually provides. Google is in the search business, Perplexity is in the Knowledge business. Both have distinct uses. I dont go to Perplexity for Papa Johns phone number, thats definitly a Google search position. I would use Perplexity to craft a cover letter for a particulat job I might be applying for. Igf i gave teh same task to google I would get ba list of sites that could do that for me.
You also dont get to utilise different LLM models on a search engine, well not yet I dont think
someone else shared this here - was a good read imo.. lays out this idea of three tiers of online search:
- navigation
- information
- exploration
https://www.theverge.com/24111326/ai-search-perplexity-copilot-you-google-review
and says the overhwhelming majority is navigation (give me the link/basic info). perplexity occupies Exploration (or Google's "immersion" ig ha)
I love Limmy. Also. Steel is heavier than feathers.
can i connect apple id and google to perplexity account?
because i sign in with google but on my school managed chromebook i can only manage to sign in with apple id and i need to link it to the right acc instead of it being separate
I am not an expert, I compare Gemini with Copilot. And gemini is the Google SGE model. Perplexity uses a variety of LLMs in its search engine. The trend is that search engines are like Perplexity, we will see when Open AI releases its search engine.
In Spain to make an appointment at the ITV you have 20 pages that make you pay €20, that is a scam because it is free. With Perplexity it gives you the answer directly, the ITV telephone number and the official URL
Looking forward to this rumored Perplexity competitor from OpenAI 🤞🏽
Is the service down?
Working for me
Is opus still 50
six days 😩
Hi guys,
So I asked here before about my issue trying to redeem my discount code. I’ve contacted customer support 4 times already with my information. I have not gotten a response back from the last 3.
Are they usually this bad? Any similar experience?
I have not gotten a response back from the last 3.
You have sent four e-mails but only received a reply to one?
When did you send the first email?
Anyone noticing that Pro search is becoming toggles off by default? I find it very limiting to always turn it on…
About a month ago. I had rep Josue responded and asked for my information. Discount code, email, sale order (rabbit r1). I sent it, about a week later I got an automated message saying case will be closed if I need further assistance to responsed to email. I did. No response after that. Sent new emails and nothing back.
Hey @brittle temple! Could you please dm me your account details, I'll check.
omg whre to apply Mr. @signal hamlet
what exactly is the Plexer role for?
ah thanks
The #⭐│starred channel has been really useful at seeing what is trending on the discord server for Perplexity.
The tester role application was in the announcement above that one but it's closed now.
What can you do?
I have to say the new voice conversation sucks to a degree where it's unusable, it's promising, but the TTS is very inaccurate and it never lets me finish speaking before starting, I could say “how is the weather?” and it would stop by time I reach “the”. If I speak fast it works better, but I stopped using it altogether because the regular whisper TTS works soo well in comparison. Hope it improves in the future
🤖
Thanks for the feedback, we got similar reports and the mobile team is working on improving the voice conversation experience
I cant seem to access any of my threads and library rn?
or is the site just slow today in general
nvm all good now
I find it interesting that it Sonnet works better than Opus sometimes
Hey guys quick question. What's the best model to use within perplexity right now? Opus or gpt 4?
😁
Perfect, thank you for letting me know its in progress 🙂 , I am looking forward to using it once it is improved!
What do you guys generally get better results with? GPT-4 Turbo or Opus?
Depends on the topic, if it's STEM-related questions than GPT-4 still has the edge, but if it's creative then Opus is the king. I like Opis by default (except for the limit of 50per day, in that case I try to save it)
file size limit is same on pro? Or bigger?
I had "Okay" results with OPUS for coding questions, catastrophic ones with GPT-4 Turbo. Python3
But English-wise OPUS felt king but by far.
But I do feel like there was a significant degredation in OPUS since launch.
Maybe I'm crazy
why
it does this only for one of my theads
a few threads now wtf
why is it doing this
Are you using a VPN?
Open the developer tools and go in the network tab
nope
in where? Perplexity or the browser
I really damn need the contents of that thread rn
what am I supposed to do here?
I cant access most of my old threads now
Click "XHR" to filter by that, then try the button again. Check the "Response" tab in the row that just appeared.
Ah, I don't think debugging is gonna solve that one.
Is there a dedicated support team on here?
#💬│general message
me too
Clearly not if they're doing fc all for this issue
Fc?
Sorry bad with lingo
it wont let me make a damn new thread now
Do you have a Ideas for prompt engineer to reduce Claude 3 Sonnet hallucinations?
It misinterpreted what my request Is sometimes.
Opus Is great for coding and writing though.
Some of my treads still works but some don't for some reason.
other peoples also have this situation
https://discord.com/channels/1047197230748151888/1236008988919988284
Hello just recently came to know about this Perplexity AI.
I'm seeing so many GPT apps recently like Chatgpt, Poe, Bing Copilot, Perplexity AI etc
Which one of all of these is best for free users? I'm so confused.
I started having this problem last night
It even kicks me out of my account if I refresh on this thread page
What have you tried to resolve the issue?
I can't solve it, I have to create a new thread to use it
For me creating a new thread sometimes work and sometimes doesnt
Typically doesnt if my question is long
me too, and creating a new thread requires copying the problem from the previous thread again
and it wastes 50 opus uses per day
I cant copy the problem because it just wont load
so... today I purchased the claude pro subscription😂
I really liked and needed perplexity's yknow automatic academic sources so I'm not using claude over it
I need claude opus to help me with my school paper
In writing, gpt is not as humane as claude
🥲
Use it to paraAI to paraphrase it
and run through detectors
Copilot
Yea but copilot slowwww, perplexity is much better if U want speed and slightly more accurate answers, copilot is just smarter when it comes to other stuff
Copilot is wonky and wont give you accurate academic articles most of the time
Both give sometimes unrelated sources compared to the answer given
Kind of false advertising
perplexity broken
But isn't it super slow
For general questions which is better
It's gotten faster
And for general questions copilot offers gpt 4 for free
Perplexity doesn't
Okay I'll try both for a few days to see which one is better overall
I've seen one thing. When I ask something on Copilot and while it's answering it, if I minimize the app, it stops answering and gives error.
Plz info how many convo u got daily on anthropic opus?
Opus at pplx not smart like from anthropic one imo
45 messages every 5 hours
reset every 5 hours
Keep in mind that it is normally less than 45 per 5h, using more context dramatically reduces it. I normally get closer to 25 per 5h. I still find it worth it but it's good to know since you may want to start new chats frequently and give it less context if you need the full 45
it will provide a warning before you have 7 messages remaining
It will, yes
I like the context of 200k
Yeah, that is why I say it's worth it, even if you don't get a full 45
I can send my paper.docx directly to it
Love it so much actually, use it so much every day, max it out every 5h
I know you can do pdf, but not sure about .docx
Lol, I answered a question you did not ask. deleted like it never happened…
I tried it. It works
Nice, I mostly use pdf and txt files with it. Always works great
I like using obsidian, so it works well
What Is that?
Is that Claude website?
yea
I think I might subscribe to Claude Instead of perplexity.
Is Original website better?
In my experience...the webpage interaction of claude was not as good as that of gpt webpage
latex is not supported, can't edit sent questions
Oh damn.
incomplete markdown syntax support
Opus Is so Good that perplexity have to limits usage to 50 messages per day because user used them too much lmao.
Coding never been this easier.
Is it your first time using AI, i see why are you so excited
Seriously with Google Gemini as a personal assistant. you can use home automation you can send WhatsApp you can make reminders now we have extensions for everyone alike you can make email summaries you can search on Google Maps you can search for hotels you can search you can already do many things. Knowing all this, is it worth buying Rabbit R1?
Yeah and I would be this excited for the next two years onward.
hello, is pplx doing some weird postprocessing on square brackets in inline code? I don't think this is fault of gpt4t
Good for you, but i won't
What happened?
Did AI performing quality dropped?
Maybe try asking it to answer in a codeblock, assuming nothing in its answer uses triple backticks that is
I could agree to that, but lets see what GPT-5 will offer us, maybe then i'd be excited.
Claude gave OpenAI a hell of a war to fought, literally Claude 3 slap OpenAI In multiple ways and I think OpenAI GPT-5 maybe a counterattack to It competitors.
I'm looking forward to seeing more about what that mysterious LLM was on lmsys recently
Yeah, and in my expectations I think it's gonna be super good, hopefully not disappointed.
it responded correctly in a code block higher, but then explained it like this in an inline code. it's confusing as hell when it writes one thing and in an explanation text bellow, in a same response, it uses a different code than what it is supposed to be explaining 😞
I hope so, If OpenAI's next release Is disappointing It would make them taking even more L In my eyes. there multiple competitors that smoke GPT3.5 and GPT4 multiple times In a row and If OpenAI's next release Is mediocre then It would be very funny.
Yep, definitely agreed.
looking at chat, I guess opus is still caged? in my experience opus was much better at following "pre-prompt" (collections prompt). with gpt4t I have to often either remind him again, or rerolling an answer 2-4 times. I am not sure this is actually cheaper for perplexity. well, I guess not many people are using it this way
Anyone have a Ideas on using AI such as Claude to help with planning and strategy?
I think It possible but I don't have specific prompt that would work.
I've noticed an issue with the Writing Mode where it keeps searching the internet instead of processing without searching the internet. Can this be fixed?
@tame current OpenAI 🥵 CloseAI
I think an official Chatgpt search engine would be a serious serious danger to Perplexity. If I had advice to give them, I would emphasise the variety offered. They won't go beyond Chatgpt 3.5/4/5.
maybe.. maybe not but perplexity is banger than other for now
You can add your failing threads to this report: https://discord.com/channels/1047197230748151888/1236180984622219274
I meant the variety of models offered.
Chatgpt aren't going to offer the choice to select Opus or Llama.
can you guys confirm that you is better than perplexity with no limitations?
perplexity is better
but you should use your IDE not the UI
major defect of all these tools is that you cannot use it inside your IDE directly without paying for the tokens individually
you should just pay the sub and be able to use it inside your editor
Agreed.
it's annoying af every time to do a repo2txt export to pass the context as an embedding
takes so much time
and you are also limited in perplexity so i have always to use gemini 1.5 pro until it's free cuz 1M context
Since my thread Is damaged from error so I will copy and paste all query Into other thread to continue my work for a while lol
I have encountered this error many times this day, severely affected my work, what’s happening?
I have the same.
some time i think maybe use another ai with my money because most time perplexity add a new feature to app the app is goes wrong, sorry for my eng level
is there a reason why perplexity doesn't have llama3 btw?
@blissful raptor
perplexity.ai somehow breaks before every new feature and I can't use the app even though I paid for it...
and this happens all the time...
ok the app is very nice, but unfortunately if it's going to break all the time, why am I paying for it?
the turkish response structure has been broken twice, this time with this ridiculous problem, if it breaks again before a new feature I will cancel my subscription!
iOS or Android?
If you guy have this error, It seem to only happens to old thread before the error happened, so I copy everything from my old thread and create new thread.
everywhere...
So old perplexity thread got nuked I take it?
