💬│general

[coarse venture]

but i would switch to perplexity if it improved...

[agile jay]

Yep, that is mostly because perplexity is not live scraping the results.

Instead they have self indexed a lot of stuff.

[coarse venture]

does you.com live scrape?

[agile jay]

Generally if the sources response is very fast, it's likely not live scraping.

[coarse venture]

sure makes sense

[agile jay]

If you've seen the speed of ChatGPT Plus, or Bing for search, you will know how fast it normally is.

Then again, those ones can also click links etc, to navigate around.

[coarse venture]

yeah i mean the bing search has been pretty disappointing with chat GPT lol

[agile jay]

Yep, its advantage is that it can look deeper into a site.

Perplex and similar services can generally only look one layer deep.

[coarse venture]

yeah for sure, i am liking phind pro for like no code programming, but it does a pretty good job with general searching

but i have not used you pro , i just joined their discord lol

[agile jay]

Yep, technically you can make searching through a site a lot faster, by crawling a few layers deep into the site when indexing, but not sure if they actually use that method. Since you probably need a lightweight model to choose what links to click on in the page. If needed.

[spark flint]

My app said co pilot before; now it says pro. Is this good or bad? Haha sorry if this is a repeat.

[agile jay]

they renamed it because of all the other stuff rebranding to copilot from microsoft etc

[waxen lily]

Does anyone knows if the pro version with claude 3 have the same power as the actual claude 3 oops have?

Like when it comes to token and how many words does claude 3 can process for a conversation and how it te reads the conversation.

I haber the subscription for claude 3 as well as gpt4 and since perplexity have both with their pro subscription I wanted to ask about that. Handling a lot of words and staying relevant over long conversations or long words is one of the most important things to me. Anyone have any I in regards to that?

[agile jay]

Pretty sure it's the same context, as on their api website, I don't see models with a smaller context.

Opus, Sonnet, Haiku

[rustic fern]

Anybody wants to ask me anything? I have access to gpt4, claude 3 opus, gemini 1.5 pro, 1.0 ultra, copilot pro, preplexity pro and grok ai.

[waxen lily]

So in other words, would it be accurate to say that using claude 3 in perplexity and selecting "writing" under the"focus section and chat with claude 3 would be the same as to use it through the anthropic website?

[agile jay]

Same

[rustic fern]

Fellow

[agile jay]

Need to test the models, lol

[rustic fern]

It's nuts how were only allowed to use claude 5 times

[agile jay]

Yep, more or less

[agile jay]

Should be fixed soon, since it was with you.com

[rustic fern]

Will it matter?

We can only use it 5 times a day

[waxen lily]

Johnny,

Would you be able to find a way to test claude 3 throigh anthropic and through perplexity and see if there is anything that would make one special or lacking?

[agile jay]

You can actually do more, there's a secret method...

But should be fixed anyway, pretty soon.

[rustic fern]

There's a difference

[agile jay]

I am guessing perplexity is currently rate limited.

[azure crown]

what's the secret

[waxen lily]

Ohhh I didn't know that of the 5 times

[rustic fern]

Claude 3 in preplexity us specially utilized for searching

Claude 3 in thr app is specially utilized for talking with you

Due to this

The answers you receive will be different

[agile jay]

For reference I have used Opus 100 < times

[rustic fern]

Although you could get the same answer if you try

[agile jay]

Yep, the system message is different

But you could write your own, which is even better than theirs...

And probably less likely to be hit by a filter too, since it's through the API.

[rustic fern]

@waxen lily give me a promt

I will test

[waxen lily]

I belive that the writing in the focus section in perplexity will be a chat without searching the internet.

[agile jay]

Yep, pretty much

[rustic fern]

Yeah

[agile jay]

What they should do is let you bookmark important responses in a collection, so that other threads in the collection get them in their context.

[waxen lily]

I can't think of a prompt. I usually use it to paste long research papers or multiple research papers to get information. Then I ask about it. Kind of like chat pdf but claude can proceed all the information verte in my opinion

[rustic fern]

Hmm.

[agile jay]

What kind of paper?

[waxen lily]

That actually sounds amazing

[agile jay]

Yep, pretty basic to implement too.

[rustic fern]

@agile jay do you think gpt 4 or claude 3 opus outperforms

[spark flint]

Ok I thought that was the case, had to ask 🙂

[agile jay]

outperforms what?

[rustic fern]

In coding

And creative writing

[agile jay]

Firstly, all those benchmarks show GPT4 not GPT4Turbo.

It seems that Claude is better at handling a large context without forgetting what is in it.

So most likely, for long tasks, it will be better.

[rustic fern]

I see.

[agile jay]

Which creative writing, and coding, generally are.

[rustic fern]

I found it better for creative writing

Also

How does it compare with gpt 4 turbo?

[lusty mantle]

Fr thinking they could be smart and be like teehee we better then gpt4 buy me

[rustic fern]

I actually prefer claude

[lusty mantle]

I prefer Google

[rustic fern]

The responses are much more human and it's coding is better

[lusty mantle]

Coding yes it's better

[rustic fern]

Gpt 4 turbo seems to sound too robotic

[lusty mantle]

Wish it could access real time data tho

[rustic fern]

I actually don't like that

[agile jay]

That is mostly to do with the system message though.

[rustic fern]

Ngl would be op

[agile jay]

And less about the model.

Gemini is the best for translation.

Pretty bad in comparison, at everything else.

Would recommend pi2.5, which is free and around the same performance as ultra, but responds a lot faster too.

pi.ai/talk

[rustic fern]

Honestly waiting for gpt5

And I REALLY hope it sounds human

[agile jay]

Just use a better system message...

[rustic fern]

Doesn't work

Ahah

I prefer claude 3 at the moment

Waiting though.

[agile jay]

What doesn't?

Works pretty well for me.

[serene sand]

#💗│sharing message ☕

[buoyant kindle]

You're not alone.

[sweet jasper]

https://tenor.com/view/waiting-waiting-patiently-waiting-for-you-waiting-on-you-gif-15489516379864441176

Waiting for the 5 opus uses to refresh

[stoic wave]

Why is there a cap of 5 messages on Opus

[halcyon coral]

#💬│general message

[tame current]

i mean i wouldnt say its because of anthropic

its because of how costly it is

significantly more expensive than 4-turbo

[stoic wave]

I've noticed that, also response quality is way higher than the gpt 4 turbo

[bright star]

Why perplexity pro very expensive?

[violet venture]

Is it?

[obsidian acorn]

Invite 2 friends a month and let them pay and it will be free

[halcyon coral]

Perplexity Pro is not really expensive, it's a normal price like the other providers have. And in my opinion, you get quite a lot for your money with Perplexity

[halcyon coral]

Discounts are automatically applied once per billing cycle so you can't get Perplexity Pro for free, but for $10.

[feral hazel]

https://www.reddit.com/r/perplexity_ai/comments/1b9aa5a/perplexity_is_consistently_challenged_by/
Is it true that one weakness of perplexity is short context window? Follow-up questions have problems retain context asked in original question? Anyone has experienced it?

[obsidian acorn]

oh alright

[halcyon coral]

Please check: https://www.reddit.com/r/perplexity_ai/comments/1b9aa5a/comment/ktut7h2/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=mweb3x&utm_name=mweb3xcss&utm_term=1&utm_content=share_button

[halcyon coral]

Hey, u/DissonantNeuron! The model doesn't have context awareness issue in this case. You have it set to the search mode, so depending on how you put it, there are always two possibilities: 1. your follow-up might be related to the first question 2. your follow-up might be a totally new search, not related to the original question.
And in this example, the way you prompted the model, it decided you're looking for differences in general, relying on the new search results.
My suggestion would be to ask it with a bit more details.
https://www.perplexity.ai/search/instabnbul-grill-houston-BMa41QR7SNO9AcrCH59bcw
There might be no articles about the sandwich menu in this particular place, but a lot more on different sandwiches.

You can also try it with the Pro search on, might also help refining the search results
https://www.perplexity.ai/search/instabnbul-grill-houston-pYEJAnfMQ3ym2SZHhnG8GQ

[feral hazel]

https://www.reddit.com/r/perplexity_ai/comments/1b9aa5a/comment/ktv6xhn/
Perplexity cannot keep context in any mode. Here's the proof. I am using Claude Opus in writing mode and am using a file uploaded instead of search results.

https://www.perplexity.ai/search/Can-you-tell-EFwUTvwCRKKp6.HPSjZEFA

From the second response, it starts ignoring the file uploaded (PCI DSS 4.0) and starts answering from it's knowledge base ( which had got only PCI DSS 3.2.1)

Makes me question whether actually Claude Opus was used as the native chatbot (in Claude) didn't hallucinate at all. Perplexity hallucinates multiple times and gives random answers instead of using the template in Appendix E2 from the document uploaded.

I have requested a pro rated refund as I am unable to use it with these issues. It will be great if you could help me with the refund. Tia.

I have attached the answer from native chatbot for reference.

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I mean, I believe you just logistically speaking. When I saw that I could do 600 GPT-4 uses a day... with context... I wondered how that was sustainable in any way. Especially when OpenAI only allows non-API a maximum message limit of 213 messages (provided you aren't using it during sleep). The biggest lever to push or pull is context window.

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The message limit is way higher on perplexity and is the same price ($20) as Claude and chatgpt separately, while giving access to both . It's kind of crazy they're able to pull this off. I'm guessing they're just subsidizing costs via cheaper api calls (vs subscription) and a large enough user base but that's just speculation from me. Moving the context slider down seems like a way for them to possibly further save on costs as you're suggesting.

[halcyon coral]

I cannot make a statement on this if I do not know the PDF.

[feral hazel]

fair statement. That's why I'm asking other members here if they encounter the same problem. If none, then I'll doubt that reddit comment

[halcyon coral]

I see, what is mentioned there may be related to the way Perplexity handles uploaded files:

Upload plain text or PDF files and Perplexity will use the context of the file to generate answers. Short files will be fed in their entirety into the language model, but longer files will be snippeted past the initial header to find the most relevant text.

This means that if you ask a question about a document, Perplexity will try to find the information in the document without copying the whole file into the prompt.

[junior mirage]

Hey guys new to this server where is the best way to learn how to use perplexkty ?

[halcyon coral]

Welcome!
You can find a lot of information at https://www.perplexity.ai/hub/faq and https://www.perplexity.ai/hub/getting-started#what-is-perplexity

[junior mirage]

Thank you !

[placid skiff]

Only problem with perpelxity is the small context window

[serene sand]

#💬│general message

you can also check tutorials in this post

[agile jay]

I've used it to write code by passing in docs to the file. The context isn't short, just people don't know how LLM's work...
For example, I don't use PDFs since their structure can range too much. Instead I convert them into markdown files.

[sweet jasper]

You can also do txt

Which with utf8 allows for the most bang for your buck

Convert an entire docbase / codebase into a txt file split with comments delineating which file or doc it pertaind to

[digital hare]

lmfao just ask perplexity

[warm geyser]

Hello Thanks for the super programme !

[placid skiff]

Can someone give me some valid points on why perplexity pro is better than chatgpt plus , if not, Why?

[floral lotus]

i have both even though i havent had the time to do extensive testing yet. some things to note:

i do a lot of study and ask questions based on documents i provide, GPTs in this regard are excellent because u can make a GPT for a field and load lots of documents and return to that GPT whenever u want to ask more questions on it. chatgpt also seems to hold context better while pplx forgets easily past conversations. chatgpt also feels a lot faster

however pplx gives u access to more models than chatgpt, on top of that searching feature is pretty good (free pplx searches pretty well too)

depends on what youre looking for

[placid skiff]

for students perplex has 600 msges

[floral lotus]

students?

[placid skiff]

i mean for a student whch is better

perplex has a 600 msg limit

but chatgpt has gtps

so

[floral lotus]

im a student and i use it in my work 600 is plenty plenty for me

all depends on ur usages

[agile jay]

Yep, tbh the usage limit is a lot better on perplexity. I would rather have 600 msgs than 40 every 3 hours...

Most people only have a short window when they are active, so 40/3hours means you are wasting a lot of them.

I prefer perplexity because of the quick search. But which is better is gonna be determined by your task and how you use them.

Perplexity is trying to be the next Google search, while ChatGPT is trying to become an AGI assistant.

[mental harness]

I've never used ChatGPT plus but I have used Poe extensively, Moemate one month, and YouAi until they banned me for having bots that got used too much, and Perplexity is currently my favorite for having something to talk to and bounce ideas off of.

[fresh shoal]

bruh are you trying to express something?

bot - banned

[obsidian garnet]

I asking the same

[meager sparrow]

Oh wait did they update youAi?

Just curious

[mental harness]

They said they're updating their pricing model next week, and I'm hoping I'll be unbanned at that point. Though based on how things are priced I may or may not set up another paid bot. It's unsustainable to pay for subscribers usage without having any mechanism to limit abuse.

[agile jay]

That's why you add your own ratelimit...

[mental harness]

YouAi had a setup where your $23 subscription allows you to publish a public facing bot that can use GPT-4, Claude 2.1, etc, but then if people use your bot too much (i.e., thousands of messages) they just ban your account then leave it up to you to go cancel your subscription through Stripe. That's what I mean about having a bot banned. If you're referring to not understanding some other part of my comment you need to be more clear.

[agile jay]

Is the public facing bot managed by you or their server?

[gaunt crater]

Oof. You'd think they would just throttle it. And unless I'm misreading, they don't ban the bot but the account? That's wrong.

[mental harness]

It's through their service.

[agile jay]

So you can't even add your own ratelimit...

[lament imp]

Is there a way to login via email by utilizing a username/password system?

[raven socket]

Mistral large has great results, wow I'm quite impressed

[agile jay]

Yep, it's less lazy too.

[fluid mauve]

I have PPLX Pro, ChatGPT Pro, Gemini. All ahve their good and bad points
I use perplexity the most. I use Perplexity collections extensivly. The collection specific prompts allow me to craft the results i want and keep them al;l in one place.
ChatGPT I use for GPT builder where I test out new stuff and practice prompt hacking .
Gemmini is new to me but in tests yesterday gave the best results for completness.

[agile jay]

Completeness?

[fluid mauve]

same question to all programs. Gemini gave me a full answer, rounded out by verifyiable facts.
Perplexity gave me similat but much more concise. It also cited sources
ChatGPT gave similar results to Perplexity with out cityations. it was also slowest

I was using defauly models on them all

[spark flint]

Anyone else getting random app closes on iOS? Just started happening within the last few days.

[raven socket]

Wow, for sure gemini advanced is strong too. I'm working on a complex code and he was literally the only one that solved it for me (tried gpt4 via pplx and openai, claude 3 opus and mistral)

plus: it solved for me in less than 5 mins, while the other ones took me some hours

[dark solstice]

have yall done calculus 10?

[floral lotus]

?

[livid mantle]

According to Gemini Advanced Ultra 1.0.

[glass spear]

How do you convert pdf to Markdown? What are the best tools to use?

[agile jay]

Depends on teh kind of PDF. If it's an image, you need to use OCR to extract the text.
If it's a normal PDF, you check the content file, which links to the pages in order, and then you loop through them and scrape the text, most likely using an xml parser.

[livid mantle]

nobody asked but the only thing I don't like about Gemini advanced ultra 1.0 is that it will sometimes tell me when its on break and I need to wait 30 minutes to use it again despite being a paid subscriber unlike chatgpt plus or copilot pro I can use it a peak times.

[icy zenith]

I have very strong opinions on these

I hate ChatGPT Plus

Gemini Advanced is fun but boring at the same time, I only use it when a new feature releases then go try smth else

Copilot Pro is good

They release features in flights tho

No prioritization btw

Claude Pro is literally for Opus

Very good model

But it doesn't offer anything more

ChatGPT Plus, Gemini Advanced, and Copilot Pro have web search

ChatGPT Plus, Claude Pro, and Copilot Pro (if you're lucky and on desktop) have file uploads

ChatGPT Plus and Copilot Pro (if you're lucky, comes with file uploads but is on mobile too without them) have code interpreter

Multimodality is in all of them, but Gemini's is currently fake (Lens) and Copilot is partially fake because it's fed a description, probably to make the extra OCR and reverse image search integration work together, still is confirmed GPT-V

[agile jay]

Lol, you say you hate ChatGPT Plus but don't give a reason.

[livid mantle]

Which of these AI models excels in a unique manner, primarily aiding in the search for information, providing summaries, and answering questions in a direct and factual way?

• 🔶 Option A: ChatGPT
• 🔷 Option B: Copilot Pro
• 🔶 Option C: Gemini Advanced 1.0 Ultra
• 🔷 Option D: Grok
• 🔶 Option E: Perplexity AI
• 🔷 Option F: Meta LLaMa 3

The clock is ticking. Your million dollars hang in the balance. Choose wisely!

[warm cave]

I say chatGPT if you need code interpreter, copilot for a solid free web search AI, Gemini if you like google for some reason, grok if you just want an AI to ask questions to and have the latest info, particularly with the perspective people are putting on twitter, perplexity if you want a solid search and an overall good tool with the latest models, meta LLama 3 if you like open source and take privacy seriously or just want to run it for free if you have good hardware.

My own biased opinion is Perplexity for almost everything, seems like it has the most use cases and is my go too for 90% of what I do, and chatGPT plus for complicated math tutoring (using code interpreter), physics and things that require decimal accuracy, or if I want a graph or other data visualization.

[minor shard]

Has LLama 3 been released yet?

[fossil sentinel]

Based move is to use gemini 1.5, upload relevant textbooks, and ask questions

[warm cave]

I don’t think yet, but I have seen people bring it up 3 times today so I was confused, But when double checking online it seems it’s a little while away

[livid mantle]

OMG THERES AN UPDATE

[minor shard]

troll alert

[fossil sentinel]

Wow! Perplexity the goat!

[sweet jasper]

Bro seriously pulled a leg on us 🥲

[heady quiver]

Anyone experiencing this issue with Perplexity loading and loading and loading? Claude 3 Opus doesn’t work > https://www.loom.com/share/6be018c033f8466184ea3903a15e63aa

Before, Perplexity was working fine when inserting a youtube clip and telling him to make a blog out of it but now I have to give it the actual transcript….I tried now to give it a transcript and IT DOESN’T EVEN RECOGNIZE IT ANYMORE…This tool is downgrading!!! Solve these stupid bugs folks!!!!! Losing my Opus credits as well too with this bulsh1t

Yeah…perplexity is NOT usable anymore; it doesn’t even recognize the attached files for fk sake. Losing my Opus credits for NOTHING.

[livid mantle]

im sorry for the inconvenience, maybe go back to chatgpt.

[heady quiver]

Then why are we paying perplexity pro? LOL

[livid mantle]

[minor shard]

Submit a detailed bug report or support request and not just screenshots. I’m sure they will more than willingly be able to assist. This technology is very new still and there will be bumps along the way no matter where you spend your money.

[heady quiver]

Detailed bug report? Huh? I already shown what’s the issue lol.

[atomic stirrup]

https://bloon.ai

[copper willow]

great to see Perplexity supporting more and more languages #📢│announcements message
I'm hoping for English to be supported soon

[round plover]

allowed to talk about jailbreaks here?

i'd like perplexity experimental to be even less censored

[devout cargo]

have been using Copilot; I uninstalled Perplexity to force myself to use Copilot, Gémini, Hugging Chat You Chat. Perplexity is the only real alternative to an AI-powered search engine.
The language barrier is overcome.
Democratize access to the camera for all users.
Have a narrator read aloud.
There are image and video search engines, now we need a music and podcast search engine.

traduce al inglés .
En la era de los GPTs estoy experimentando que con los focus de búsqueda va más rápido que los propios GPTs

Creo que más focus de búsqueda especializados sería una experiencia formidable

In the era of GPTs, I am finding that with search focuses, it is faster than the GPTs themselves.

I believe that more specialized search focuses would be a great experience.

[outer relic]

copilot is so great ı asked internships list currently hiring and it gives me a full list of internships do you guys know how can we acces the bing api

[whole lark]

It was perfect timing since I wanted to use Claude3. Subscribing to an LLM is quite a dilemma. Can't really quit ChatGPTPlus either.

[calm summit]

Having an issue this AM EST Time, where Claude 3.0 is not available, keeps defaulting to GPT 4. Anyone else experiencing the same?

[whole lark]

I heard that Claude3 was great for pdf summaries and wanted to use it, but Default is fine for my purposes.

[pine dagger]

Where did you see this?

[civic girder]

Yes, my friend. I have the same problem

[floral lotus]

got my second acc on claude banned too \🥳

weirdly they stil havent touched my $10 api credits

[outer relic]

what u even ask that u can ban lol

[floral lotus]

its seemingly random

second acc banned on my first input

[outer relic]

thats wierd

[floral lotus]

not related to input

[river nacelle]

Hi everybody, ChatGPT's hanging all the time and not responding. Cancelled my subscription there and subscribed at perplexity. Was using it for quite sometime but now as a subscriber

[placid skiff]

Inspect....

I mean tbh chatgptes message limit kills it for me, I like how gemini is Linked with all google apps and thats cool tbh, plus you get unlimited messages.

[odd mauve]

Mainly I want Claude 2.1 back. It was working pretty well, choosing the right keywords and excelling in summarization. 5 Opus uses/day go away within the first 5 minutes and then you are stuck with Sonnet.

[minor shard]

Yeah, but would you rather not have access to Opus at all or get atleast 5 uses a day? There is always the option to just buy a Claude subscription until it is 😄

[spice lance]

is there any direct url i can use to start with a reddit search configured in order to be able to create a chrome app with that search?

[fossil sentinel]

Sonnet is the direct successor to Claude 2.1 though

Not opus

[tame basin]

i have something incredible to share about ai news that i found with perplexity, idk where to put it in this server though.
it is a lot more information than just a link to a perplexity thread so it didnt feel right to put it there in the sharing channel, plus it would get lost quickly probably.

[fluid mauve]

why not say what 'incredible' revelation you have, and then a link instead of pre-seeding clickbait

[tame basin]

@fluid mauve
i want to give people a chance to help give it a boost from the beginning instead of having to catch up on to it, but seeing as there hasnt been a response yet i guess i will post here

[tranquil orchid]

Hey @tame basin!

If you find the original message helpful, please consider reacting to it with the :star: emoji. If the post is appreciated by the community and receives 5 stars, it will go to the https://discord.com/channels/1047197230748151888/1082806833938436228 channel and the post author will get the <@&1082034222778302614> role on Perplexity.

[livid mantle]

Claude 3 Opus? More like "Cloudo the Confused!" Thinks it's smarter than a barrel of monkeys juggling wrenches! I tell ya, you give a computer a fancy name, it forgets how to play patty-cake!

[tame basin]

so yeah...ai has meta awareness now, and it is better than the average person.
https://github.com/brendenlake/MLC

heres how i found out about the initial github repo. i literally just asked the right 3 questions. you will need to make an account to view the thread i think.
https://www.perplexity.ai/search/are-there-any-t6bd_g.5Rb2ZoM0VrGuEQQ

someone pointed out the study linked on the github
https://www.nature.com/articles/s41586-023-06668-3.pdf

from another person from the same place...this is absolutely nuts, achieving more MLC than an average person.

The Lake and Baroni paper also lists "Supplementary Information" with details on how they tested their MLC (Meta-Learning for Compositionality) scenario against ChatGPT 3.5 and 4: https://static-content.springer.com/esm/art%3A10.1038%2Fs41586-023-06668-3/MediaObjects/41586_2023_6668_MOESM1_ESM.pdf

In that document, GPT-4 achieved 58% on their MLC test, which was much better than GPT 3.5. That contrasted with the average human's score of 81% and their MLC method which achieved 93% to 97%. However, the authors were frank and humble, admitting that future progress in pure neural net-based LLMs might achieve improved systematicity without MLC methods. However it was unclear if that would happen, and their current research indicates MLC has the potential to improve current LLMs.

One of the referenced papers was "Measuring and Narrowing the Compositionality Gap in Language Models" (2022, Press, et. al): https://arxiv.org/abs/2210.03350 In this paper, they devised some "compositionality" test questions which then-current (2022) LLMs had problems with, such as "Who won the Master’s Tournament the year Justin Bieber was born?" I tried that on GPT-4, Claude 3.0 and Gemini Advanced 1.0, and they all gave the correct answer, so things are rapidly changing.

[livid mantle]

llama 3

[tranquil orchid]

Hey @tame basin!

If you find the original message helpful, please consider reacting to it with the :star: emoji. If the post is appreciated by the community and receives 5 stars, it will go to the https://discord.com/channels/1047197230748151888/1082806833938436228 channel and the post author will get the <@&1082034222778302614> role on Perplexity.

[tame basin]

oh yeah meant to include this too

screenshot from the study

[livid mantle]

i only like using perplexity because of unlimited image generation with playground 2.5, dall-e 3 and stable diffusion xl

[worthy nest]

Are multiple users allowed to use the same account? I want to give my partner access to my account but I cant find anything in the documentation on whether that'd be against TOS or something.

[worthy nest]

in hindsight I should've asked perplexity itself lol

(although id worry about potential error)

[livid mantle]

have faith in perplexity

[worthy nest]

im too this-image-brained to have faith in an LLM

[tame basin]

just you wait haha

[meager sparrow]

[livid mantle]

oh its not unlimited

[minor shard]

lol what was the limit

Did u generate 600 images in a day

[livid mantle]

i think today i only did like 10

[minor shard]

That’s weird, cause I know I’ve done like 20 in one go

[floral lotus]

playground 2.5 slaps

i wish the input context was larger, my image prompts keep getting squeezed down

and reworded?

[atomic kayak]

hi

[atomic stirrup]

https://bloon.ai

[tropic scarab]

When I try to create an image of a succubus for character design using stable diffusion XL image generation, I get the error "Failed due to moderation. Please try a different query"

[vocal owl]

yeah like 2 days ago, i went on a spree of like generating 30 images within an hour lol

[wraith crow]

you can generate 50 images a day

[south kindle]

i'm finding that PI AI is getting regular knowledge updates with the latest model update: https://pi.ai/s/fWrfRcoC79cpTSidoWqQB

[floral lotus]

no wonder

[rain stag]

Bug in iPhone:
I cant press send when the text is long in mobile guys. This happens when starting a new chat.

[livid mantle]

copilot pro is the worst, im talking about the microsoft bing one

[grand sand]

the app sucks and even the responces suck

[livid mantle]

yes every update it gets stricter

chatgpt sucks

[minor shard]

love ur profile pic

[livid mantle]

yours like a NFT

[minor shard]

haha i used one of those ChatGPT GPTs to generate it a few months ago

[blissful spire]

Are the context length for pro for gpt-4-turbo really 128k?

[snow pond]

Hello @everyone.
Rust developer is here.
Cosmwasm, cosmos-sdk, solana-sdk, etc.

[robust quartz]

Nice

https://fortune.com/2024/03/10/jeff-bezos-perplexity-ai-tech-investment/

[minor shard]

How do I also make money/invest also or is this a rich person only club?

[livid mantle]

jeff bezos is in this server

[gaunt crater]

If you take the letters in unknownuser and rearrange them it spells Jeff Bezos

[foggy whale]

does that make this a rich person also server?

[clear holly]

Why cant Perplexity give me the latest news from a Swedish news site like Aftonbladet?

[livid mantle]

yes

[serene sand]

#💗│sharing message ☕

[azure crown]

https://fxtwitter.com/elonmusk/status/1767108624038449405?t=HqsmcmViAZl6L-U8AtO9FQ&s=19

[empty siren]

I wonder when pplx will have an AI studio for function calling and fine tuning

[tame current]

what's grok ?

[azure crown]

elon's llm

[tame current]

ohh

is it any good

I've never seen it in benchmarks or anything

[full fractal]

Hi

[grand sand]

No lol

[robust quartz]

No, its near the same level as mistral-7b
Probably worse

[wraith crow]

thanks! It was the first image I created with pplx

[whole lark]

I'm going to make an icon for the perplexity discord, and I'm going to ask AI to do the background, but where should I use for compositing?

When I used canva, it wasn't very easy to use.

[warm ruin]

Are you looking to create text or an image?

[whole lark]

<- change color to silver
Image available in #📝│server-ideas

[static grove]

is there a discord bot?

[signal hamlet]

Hey, @static grove! There's no discord bot here doing what you can do at https://pplx.ai

[static grove]

I was just wondering if I could add my own perplexity instance w/ an API key to a discord of mine

totally understand - mostly just for collaboration

and i use perplexity quite a bit -thank you 🙂

[livid mantle]

Thankyou for your hard work sir alex romanov

[signal hamlet]

Sure, you can create your own applications and bots, using the API for your Discord.

[static grove]

okay! thank you !

[bright star]

Oh.. maybe because i am from Russia, we dont have this money for one service and the products in our country is more cheaper

[livid mantle]

If Anthropic connects their LLM to the internet, they could unlock its full potential, becoming a formidable force in the competitive AI market. It will be game.

https://tenor.com/view/stonks-chart-stocks-going-up-gif-15813050

[agile jay]

They just need their own indexer like, perplexity.

Which makes search feel very fast.

No idea why openai doesn't use the microsoft indexer, to not need to manually search.

[spare schooner]

Hi everyone, Idk if it is the right section so sorry in advance, I have to redeem the Rabbit R1 coupon for Perplexity Pro, when I click on the blue button in the email it redirects me on the website and it says "Welcome r1 owners. Your complimentary 1-year Perplexity Pro subscription starts now!
Get Started" But when I click get started it redirects to the payment page, without the possibility to add coupon and with the full price

[spare schooner]

Did anyone experience the same problem? What should I do? I'm trying

[agile jay]

I would contact support, on the website

[spare schooner]

Yeah you're right, I send an email now, I tried first here to check if it was fast to solve

[agile jay]

It's a shame that only pro users have access to chat support.

[agile jay]

Maybe check inside settings, and see if support is available for free users.

[spare schooner]

Yep, I try now

[agile jay]

Might be just called support, or something like that

[spare schooner]

I think only way is with email

I do not have that button

[agile jay]

Rip, guess it's only for pros

[wanton minnow]

Is there a way to complete translate a korean text file to English?
Thanks

[agile jay]

Depends how large it is.

[wanton minnow]

It is about 19 mb

Though can split it up no problem

[agile jay]

That is a lot of text, if there are no images...

[wanton minnow]

Tried with google translate but was way off with the translation

[wanton minnow]

No images.
Yup plain old text

[agile jay]

Is it a webnovel or something, with a lot of chapters?

Can't think what else could be so large as just text.

[wanton minnow]

Yup, of course for personal use( just adding for educational purposes, just to be safe)

[agile jay]

I would probably do chapter by chapter, and make it pass a summary of the previous chapter/s to the next chapter, so it keeps the context.

[halcyon coral]

You have to complete the process on the Stripe page as if you wanted to take out an annual subscription, i.e. you have to enter your payment details, the discount will only be displayed at checkout.

[wanton minnow]

I see, thanks alot, let me try a sample

[agile jay]

If it's like solo leveling, you probably want it to keep the names of movies/abilites etc in the summary, so they match between chapters.

[wanton minnow]

Well this going to take some time then, thanks alot though

[agile jay]

If you automate it, then you could just make it generate the next chapter, when you enter a chapter, that way it would feel instant.

[spare schooner]

I tried with a card with less then 200 $ and the payment got rejected, I'm a bit scared to try with my main card, if the coupon does not show I will loose my money ? 😆

[halcyon coral]

You'll see the discount on the page with the final buy button.
The price will then be $0.
But you need an approved payment method for this 🙂

[spare schooner]

Okay thank you, I'll try it now

[halcyon coral]

If you are unsure about the last step before subscribing, you can also send a screenshot.

[livid mantle]

Congress votes to ban TikTok THIS WEDNESDAY. This is your LAST CHANCE to act. Find your rep and make your voice heard! #KeepTikTok

[spare schooner]

I clicked Get Started, so now I have this, here I put my info and I click "Pay and subscribe"?

These are my 3 steps, first get started, then I click on annual on the left and then that is the screen I see

Idk It's a bit strange, becuase it seems that when I click that button I'm paying that amount, I do not have the chance to put any reedem code right now

[agile jay]

Discount code is normally just below the large price text.

At least it is on mobile.

[spare schooner]

Yeah also on reddit they were saying it should be around there but I'm not seeing it

Idk why

[signal hamlet]

Hey, @spare schooner! Did you have a free trial before getting the R1 promo? Have you sent a message to [e-mail]?

[spare schooner]

Nope I didnt do the free trial, still I havent sent the message to the support, I will now

[signal hamlet]

Got it, no worries, please email us the details of the account and your rabbit email, we'll help you apply it, as by that step the code input with the code should have appeared already.

[spare schooner]

Okay, thank you very much, I'm sending the email!

[bright star]

Where are you from? I ask it, because romanov - is russian name)

[spare schooner]

Should I send in the email also my coupon code that I got in the rabbit email?

[bright star]

Oh, i was ghosted(

[wanton minnow]

No idea on how to do that

[agile jay]

Proobably has notifications from being @ed or replied, disabled.

I imagine they get spammed a lot.

[agile jay]

I believe pro members get free $5 credit for the perplexity api a month. You could probably do it using that.

[wanton minnow]

Thanks will look into that

[tropic scarab]

How to create your own AI chatbot?

[agile jay]

Depends, do you just want to create the interface, or actually make your own model...

[tropic scarab]

my own model. i want to share it afterwards with perplexity or others.

[agile jay]

Then RIP, you probably don't have the money or hardware to do so.

[halcyon coral]

You can't create your own bots with Perplexity (Perplexity is not a chatbot provider) but you can use collections and share them with friends 😉 https://www.perplexity.ai/hub/faq/what-is-collections

[agile jay]

Yep, collections are basically like GPT's but with less functionality.

Just the ability for a custom system message.

[tame current]

Lol

I mean, Google kind of botched Gemini's launch

Gemini was almost immediately overshadowed by Claude 3 in terms of overall technical and behavioral performance

[floral lotus]

its probably not helping gemini 1.5 still isnt publicly out

[wicked glade]

Why should i choose perplexity over you.com or poe.com?

[floral lotus]

cooler UI

[wicked glade]

UI is more or less irrelevant.

[floral lotus]

idk man thats like half the reason im here

[wicked glade]

Pretty icons? Seriously?

[floral lotus]

who said anything about pretty icon

[tame current]

depends on your use case i guess, i find perplexity more helpful when searching for academic journals & papers for work

[smoky oriole]

Claude 3 is goated

I'm loving it

I wanna see 1.5 ultra

I'm also curious what OpenAI is cooking up with GPT 5

[edgy trench]

im new to perplexity as i just purchased a rabbit r1. can i cancel my chatgpt 4 subscription if i usually use it for programming and calculus? is perplexity just as good or better?

oh perplexity has gpt 4

so shouldnt it be just as good pretty much

[honest basin]

you.com is just a money grab with very limited input and output, poe has less messages with an illusion of being a lot

[vapid onyx]

I’d wager it looks like a copy cat of Perplexity

[tame current]

It is

I think Claude 3 is the new king of AI, for however long it lasts

The AI sphere changes so quickly it’s hard to say how long it’ll remain the king of AI

[valid yoke]

Is it a free app?

[tame current]

Claude can be accessed either through Anthropic’s website or through Perplexity

[valid yoke]

For free?

[tame current]

Technically yes

There’s a paid version that’s better

[valid yoke]

How?

[tame current]

Free Claude 3 is still way more of a GPT4 equivalent than Gemini is though imo

[valid yoke]

But how do you access Claude for free?

[floral lotus]

get read to be banned on your first prompt

[tame current]

Download perplexity or go to anthropics website

[valid yoke]

I tried their website and it says not available in Canada

[agile jay]

Use a VPN...

[valid yoke]

I have the app but how do I choose Claude

[agile jay]

Which app?

[valid yoke]

Perplexity free

[agile jay]

You can't if you are free tier

[valid yoke]

Ok I’ll just stick with ChatGPT for now

I have Poe though

[agile jay]

You a writer?

[valid yoke]

No

[agile jay]

Scrivener?

[valid yoke]

Haha oh

[valid yoke]

I prefer not to

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[agile jay]

Not to write, or not to use Scrivener?

[valid yoke]

You were asking if I use that app?

[agile jay]

Do you know what scrivener is?

[valid yoke]

I thought you were just referencing my name

[agile jay]

It's an desktop app for writing books.

[valid yoke]

True but it’s also the subtitle of the book named after me

[smoky oriole]

How well does it work?

That sounds interesting

[agile jay]

It's one of the most popular ones. It's pretty old though, so haven't tried it in a while.

Ask perplexity, lol

[zealous totem]

what about iA writer have u tried that

[minor shard]

I would say it’s just as good but it’s all personal preference. Would definitely play with it before canceling.

[agile jay]

Is that the markdown writer?

[naive roost]

Will buy up to $1M of Perplexity shares at 50% premium to implied value from latest funding round, at industry standard terms. Will not waste your time.

[smoky oriole]

🙃

I'm curious what you think.

[agile jay]

It's not for me, since I write my books in VS Code, using markdown. Or using neovim.

[smoky oriole]

Ahhh

Kk thanks

[minor shard]

Has anyone made a discord bot yet with the Perplexity API?

[livid mantle]

yes, I just paid $200 because they baited me with that fake claude 3 opus. fortunately I was able to dispute the $200.

[agile jay]

Oh was the you.com unlimited thing fake?

[livid mantle]

yes sir, unlimited fake is the best word for it

im going to sue that site

with that money i will give it to alex romanov

[agile jay]

I've only used it once. Looks like a random copy of ChatGPT+Perplexity.

[bitter wren]

I haven't' "chosen" perplexity yet but from a quick look, both you.com and poe.com seem to be just more chatbots with multi-LLM functionality

as I understand it, this is possible w/ perplexity but the focus is not on chatting but search

In general I dont need an all purpose chatbot that can sort of do everything bc that isn't a task im doing. If I am programming I want something that works well with code (shows diffs of suggested changes, understands context on a function or namespace level not just my previouus X words)

[agile jay]

Yep, perplexity markets itself as the next Google.

[bitter wren]

if im searching, I am looking for something that gives me sources and answers

[livid mantle]

recently sundar pichai is resigning but nobody knows why, I can tell you why

||it's because he is joining perplexity.||

[agile jay]

Lol

[minor shard]

lol

[agile jay]

Definitely not related to Gemini fumble...

[minor shard]

So much lost time on Gemini

[bitter wren]

Perplexity shoul remove the option to select LLMs in the first place, that's overcomplicating it already. IMO it's their job to figure out what model is best for a search, not ours. It's clunky picking different models

[livid mantle]

Another thing, you think Google destroyed "AI SEO" because they just decided to do it? No Let me tell you why:

||It's because everyone laughed at them for their problematic image generation, so google is doing this "AI SEO" counter act to get a share of the laughter.||

[minor shard]

I would disagree, you don't even have to change the models and the free version uses their model. I think its perfect for simple and complex users.

[bitter wren]

more focus options, more cusotmizability in the concept of threads/collections

[agile jay]

...

[bitter wren]

Even complex users aren't basing thieir LLM selection on anything real

just what "feels" better at a given moment

[minor shard]

I mean thats the whole AI world atm lol

[bitter wren]

sure, I'm saying if perplexty is trying to differentiate and create a search product

move away from the market of "select your LLM chatbots"

[agile jay]

Really? I do it based on the task, since models score differently at different tasks.

[minor shard]

They are working on their own model that eventually they will solely use but I don't think thats anytime soon.

[bitter wren]

if Claude-3 is th event for code, use it to help with code searches

if its not, don't

[agile jay]

How many people only have pro because they want to use those models...

[bitter wren]

and if perplexity can't determine if claude-3 is the best for search, well, there's a problem they should work on

[bitter wren]

how many people have pro to begin with?

I'm not saying don't use the models

im saying that their moat should be doing it for you

[minor shard]

I think the issue there is that the best LLM is always changing. So to give your user's whiplash like that would ruin the product and push people away. Giving options lets people choose what they like best whether its PPLX LLM, GPT4, Claude, etc and stick with it.

[agile jay]

No, at most they should have an auto option in models.

[bitter wren]

if you're researching something X model excels at, use that. don;'t make the user click a box and then try to iterate through them

[minor shard]

True

[bitter wren]

look at all the quesitons online of people asking what model to use etc

[agile jay]

I want to choose the model I'm using...

[bitter wren]

its adding complexity to sa search engine

why?

[minor shard]

I think the problem atm is they haven't perfected their own model yet so they are trying to give people something.

[agile jay]

Only if you care about it, and actually go into the settings.

[bitter wren]

you don't want to choose the model you're using - you want the best result possible for your query

[agile jay]

Also they are a small team.

What do you do when there isn't a best model for a query?

Or the query has multiple questions and different models are good for each part of it?

[bitter wren]

default to the cheapest if they're all the same

[minor shard]

If i don't get the results I like I usually go to another LLM lol

[bitter wren]

query has multiple models?

what does that even mean though

[agile jay]

The problem is that models have randomness to them, so there is no best model, there is just the one you prefer.

Especially since the models answer the same question differently.

[bitter wren]

yeah, this should be done for you. you shouldn't be getting exults that are better with another model, same as you shouldn't be getting the best google answers on page 2

[agile jay]

People like certain models because of how those models answer questions differently.

[bitter wren]

I'm not saying don't use different models

I'm saying, a product wher the user is expected to hop around models to find the best result

is going to be passed by a company that does the same thing but just picks the model for you

[minor shard]

Idk, I would disagree. For the average person who knows nothing.. sure... but I would rather be able to choose because Google/OpenAI/PPLX do not know what I want 100% of the time.

[agile jay]

If you are paying for pro, you already care about models enough to learn the difference lol, or just choose the best overall model...

[bitter wren]

so then, in that case, perplexity should be detecting this and directing to a different model

[minor shard]

yeah we are not there yet, but maybe one day they can read my mind

[bitter wren]

different models = good, different models the user needs to find out which is best=bad

[agile jay]

Also custom instructions affect different models differently...

[bitter wren]

google let me do lang:en or lang:es etc to choose my results

but it makes reasonable default guesses based on a number of factors

[agile jay]

Wouldn't it be great if shops knew what I wanted to buy before I bought them?

[bitter wren]

how many people DON'T have pro because they just want the best search results possible and cant figure out which of the 5 options they're supposed to use?

[bitter wren]

yeah, they kind of do in 2024..

[agile jay]

They obviously don't, since I've never gotten any good recommendations.

[agile jay]

None, since you can't choose models in free mode, so they wouldn't know...

[bitter wren]

its not a multi-billion dollar industry because it doesn't work 🙂

[bitter wren]

no, they see a daunting prompt about having all these diffferent AI models and decide pro isn't for them

[agile jay]

No, they pray on people who buy stuff they don't need, and don't end up using.

[bitter wren]

"Pro" should just mean to the average user "We use the advanced version of models when we perform your search"

not "hope your'e up to date on the latest benchmarks"

[agile jay]

Pro, means you're a professional and should know the difference...

[bitter wren]

so then why do people pay for targeted advertising?

[bitter wren]

We both know "Pro" no longer means professional in 2024 haha

[agile jay]

Impulse buying.

[bitter wren]

But, why targeted?

it clearly works, even if apparently not on you

[agile jay]

Well most people aren't buying every ad they see are they?

[bitter wren]

Claude-3 is currently the best at programming, no?

[agile jay]

So clearly it only works a small fraction of the time.

[bitter wren]

My queries related to code should be claude-3, period.

If some advanced user wants to use sometihing etc sure

[agile jay]

No it isn't. Depends on the programming language. The output language and how lazy the model is.

[bitter wren]

otherwise what is perplexity even offering? just another chatbot? there are tons of these that let you select the model

[bitter wren]

Okay, then whatever is best for my programming language.

[agile jay]

How would they know?

They gonna somehow test every single programming language?

[bitter wren]

I would hope as a company they're investing in more than just a UI and REST API calls

[agile jay]

Hopefully they are pros in all of them.

[bitter wren]

are they not devleloping technology that evaluates queries?

[agile jay]

Most of the work is in the indexer I imagine.

Since it has to keep on crawling to keep stuff up to date.

[bitter wren]

Yes, actually, I'd expect them to have a good benchmark for which model performs best in which programming language

if your pitch is LLM+search, I kind of expect a lot of your tech to be finding out which LLM is best for which search

[agile jay]

Also there is already an API that does what you said.

[bitter wren]

So maybe advanced users who know the specifics of the LLM models they want should be the ones using an API

and the average customer should just get the best guess, which is better than no guess

people want a simple search box that gives he best possible results

[agile jay]

A random user is generally not paying $20/month on something they don't understand.

[bitter wren]

yeah, exactly.

the average user isn't going to pay $20 a month if they need to know the latest on all LLMs. they will pay $20 a month if it results in "pro" searches that give clearly better results

[agile jay]

IDK, mostly seems like you are annoyed you don't know the best model for your queries.

[bitter wren]

Oh im not annoyed i just started using it

i just dont think you're going to get most consumers onboard wi thneeding to pick between "perplexity" "experimental" and "claude" on every search

if the goal is to be a niche tool for specific users, sure. if the goal is too be the "google of LLMs", the current approach requires teaching everyone how to stay up to date on LLM changes and different specialities etc. I don't think that' going to get a very wide audience.

[agile jay]

RIP, can't find that API which already has an endpoint for chooseing the best model for the query.

[bitter wren]

the google of LLM can't tell folks to go use an API

most people dont know what that is

[agile jay]

Too bad for them then.

[bitter wren]

well, no, I think they'll find a company willing to do that for them

[agile jay]

If it was easy, it would already be done

[south kindle]

https://www.bing.com/images/create/a-comic-of-a-dog-saying-27this-is-fine27/1-65efb7f6b826499cadd656e23094801f?id=Hw9EFdlQbwJfF9hO2aallQ.pP4AdQ0BuldHtR%2FUL%2BGlFQ&view=detailv2&idpp=genimg&idpclose=1&thid=OIG1.I9U5mHzXFuMkZMn74KWI&frame=sydedg&form=SYDBIC - this seems like an issue....

[bitter wren]

there are already router programs on git

[bitter wren]

github

[south kindle]

found from this reddit post: https://new.reddit.com/r/ChatGPT/comments/1bcb04s/this_is_how_you_know_whether_they_trained_off_an/

[bitter wren]

and yeah, this is called a moat

[minor shard]

LOL

[south kindle]

yah wut mate?

2 strikes and your out copilot.

[agile jay]

Maybe it has a lot of memes in it's training data, unless the image was a 1 to 1, of the meme.

[south kindle]

this was the best take I saw so far on it.

is the orignal copy-righted if it's become a "internet meme"? and should the model just print the meme verbatim? probably not.

[foggy whale]

one of the funnier arguments/exercises I went through in the last few weeks was trying to get Dall-E to generate essentially an image of a hacker sitting at his desk wearing a Chiefs jersey. Trying to get Dall-E to not generate a stereotypical re-rendering of a stock photo where the subject was NOT wearing gloves was neigh impossible

and after reading a couple papers on the topic of bias in ML models generally that's actually a heck of a good illustration of how it works

[floral lotus]

thats what you.com does with their 'genius model' hiding the underlying llm as it apparently uses the 'best' ones

which is a big factor why im not considering them

best thing pplx can do rn is have a small info page explaining which llms excell at what

which they already do i think?

[bitter wren]

for me, I use the individual LLMs via their APIs when i need them in a project

when im searching i want: a box, then answers

[floral lotus]

api is too expensive to be sending pdfs

otherwise i wouldve stayed with the api

[bitter wren]

humata.ai does a good job with pdfs, not sure what their backend is

[floral lotus]

tho im losing interested in pplx too

cant even read past response unless directly asked

[floral lotus]

looks interesting might try it

[bitter wren]

most of the models give pretty much similar results for my queries

[floral lotus]

claude understands my documents better

and if gemini is ever introduced i felt gemini vision was better than gpt4V

[bitter wren]

it's actually quite nice. the UI is pretty good, you basically have a file system live google drive or so, and can ask questions at the folder level or pdf level

rsponse view is side by side with pdf and highlights/links to the parts in its answers. no online functionality iirc

not perfect, none of them are. internet connectivity could be nice. or a negative

inference on a lot of models is ok on ipad m1, starting to just want a local app that does this

[south kindle]

all clear fam. i couldn't figure out how to word it, so maybe user error.

even with a more direct prompt from knowyourmeme. that one seems "safe".

[halcyon coral]

@atomic stirrup
The server here is not meant to search for employees, thank you!

[tame current]

Claude 3 Censorship Is Insane, I am canceling my subscription bro.

Maybe you guy should to, I think I should use Poe Instead.

It been spilling ethics for five minutes and preaching religion for five minutes now, bro thought he Is Jesus Christ or something.

I just done with Claude bro.

[nimble field]

Claude 3 is the best coder that I’ve tried. Copy and paste code has never been easier.

[compact hound]

Good morning,

I have two doubts:

1. Does Perplexity use Claude 3 Opus or another type of Claude 3?

2. Is there any way to prevent them from knowing that I have copied the text, that is, avoid the detection of plagiarism, whether it is a promt or similar?

[stoic wave]

1. It uses Claude3 Opus

2. There are plagiarism tools online to check for that.

[compact hound]

What tools are there? And that if you have an IOS app, it’s better...

[stoic wave]

I use zerogpt premium, but feel free to choose anything that works for you. I'm not sure if there is an iOS app.

[queen flame]

https://time.com/6898967/

[sharp lance]

The daily limit for picture generations and the Claude 3 Opus usage, when does it reset exactly? Is it 0:00am in my timezone or in a specific one which is the same for all accounts? And can I see how many I have left?

[tame current]

do old chats disappear when there are too many?

like bing ai chats disappear after a couple months and many chats later

[halcyon coral]

#👑│pro-lounge message

[agile jay]

No, there are no actual tools that work that can detect AI generated text. In any of those sites, take stuff written before ChatGPT was released and see what they score...
Openai tried to make one for teachers, but it ended up not working.
The only real way to tell is to compare against what you've released previously.

[solid sandal]

Hello people.

I was wondering how I can generate images.

[gaunt crater]

Anecdotally I've heard there have been a few horrible false positive cases already with accusations of AI generation that are probably mistaken and definitely unproveable. I think it's turning plagiarism detection into a bit of a nightmare.
By appearances detecting AI writing is an arms race that the detectors are losing, barring some breakthrough.

[kind plank]

Hi. I’m a Pro subscriber and have joined from the discord link on the Perplexity settings, but I don’t seem to have access to Pro channels

[serene sand]

#1194794305362071552 message

[foggy whale]

Try ripping the extracted text out of the PDF and cleaning up the text. I've found indices and tables of contents inside large docs gum everything up

[solid sandal]

Interesting. Thank you mate.

[fossil sentinel]

Yeah the system needs to adapt by either doing in person essays or something

[gaunt crater]

Just as a user not really trying across hours of usage I can tell "ChatGPT style" to an extent, but honestly other models are better at varying their style and vocabulary, and I think a core problem is even if a model has a particular set of favorite tokens due to its weights and such there are so many fine tunes out there that between the variety of models and the ability to tweak sampling/filtering parameters like temperature and top-k the countermeasures seem far easier on the generating side.
Right now you probably still get caught if you just rip text and leave it in "ChatGPT style", or more likely don't vet hallucinated content and just submit a paper with lies in it.

The way Harvard is doing it with CS50x is such a good example with their "rubber duck debugger" though (cs50.ai)
They did their own fine tune, left it to the honor code to only use their AI for help (I might be miswording this), and kind of acknowledge the reality of the situation that people use AI but don't learn if they offload too much to it

I wonder if there are educational companies trying to do that in the general sense, help schools/courses provide AIs that help but don't give up everything for the sake of struggling while learning

[halcyon coral]

#1209488627860774972 message

[fading furnace]

Ah i Seee

~~looks like its time for photoshop then 🤡 ~~

[minor shard]

Personally I don’t understand the diagram option if it doesn’t even work correctly 👀

[whole glacier]

How do you get access to the Pro role if you have Perplexity Pro?

[halcyon coral]

#💬│general message

5

[whole glacier]

Thx

[halcyon coral]

Don't worry, that will change over time.

[whole glacier]

How did that work tho? I didn’t know you can have certain invite links for certain roles.

[lusty mantle]

Oi how everyone doin

Wait wait I just noticed that we get 500 with claude now? Sweet!

But mine still says only 5

[halcyon coral]

#💬│general message

[sinful pine]

hello, can anyone help me about perplexity? 😅

[fossil sentinel]

https://www.businessinsider.in/tech/news/ceo-says-he-tried-to-hire-an-ai-researcher-from-meta-and-was-told-to-come-back-to-me-when-you-have-10000-h100-gpus/articleshow/108409971.cms

😭 😭

[halcyon coral]

That's what the server is for! ☺️

[minor shard]

Poor guy is trying his best

[sinful pine]

I want to send you my request in private, because I'm a bit hesitant to send it to the server.

can i send?

[halcyon coral]

Sure

[lusty mantle]

I have pro tho @halcyon coral

[halcyon coral]

Yes, without Pro you can't use Claude. With Pro you get 600 uses for Claude Sonett/GPT-4/...the first 5 uses with Claude 3 are Opus

[lusty mantle]

Ohhhh got it

Is claude sonett the second best they have?

[halcyon coral]

Yes, it's from the new Claude 3 family the second model

[elder remnant]

Has anyone already done the following?

• Write input in your native language
• Force Perplexity AI to conduct the search in English
• Output texts in your native language (or the same as the input language)

[molten stag]

Anyone else having trouble with chatgtpturbo crashing when trying to use it for searches?

[halcyon coral]

GPT-4 Turbo works fine for me on Perplexity, but it crashes 60% on ChatGPT...

[molten stag]

Interesting. I had it set as my default model on perplexity on iOS and i had to change it to Claude… now even if I try to get a rewrite using gtp it still crashes

[halcyon coral]

I've never had any problems with it tbh and it's also strange that Claude works for you.
When did you experience the crashes?

[molten stag]

Yesterday and today with a few different searches.

[tame current]

gpt*

or does gtp have some meaning idk of ?

[livid mantle]

https://tenor.com/view/i-believe-in-people-sundar-pichai-youtube-dear-earth-i-have-faith-in-people-gif-23560720

[molten stag]

Me spelling it incorrectly lol. Thanks … gpt-4 turbo to be correct

[fervent needle]

Hi, I have a bit of weird issue, All my query with image attached and default focus says "Error in processing query", but text only query works. Image only works when I disable pro search and set to writing.

[tacit meteor]

Can I copy texts without citation numbers?

I don't want to see nums in my digital notes 😦

[sinful pine]

perplexity.ai can't respond when i throw my logo designs, what could be the reason? i am a pro user...

[signal hamlet]

Hey, @sinful pine! Could you share a bit more details about the case. What happens when you upload pictures and what are you trying to do with them?

[spice lance]

is it possible to automatically scroll down with answers like chatgpt ui? is it possible to change search focus without doing new thread? is it possible to change focus when in new thread with a shortcut (having to use the mouse is crazy)

[signal hamlet]

Hey, @spice lance! You can save several shortcuts in your browsers search settings, starting new threads with a chosen focus Currently, there's no option to switch the focus mid thread and we don't scroll down automatically like chatgpt.

[spice lance]

hi 🙂 how do i create such browser shortcuts?

[signal hamlet]

Oh, sorry, forgot to add an example: #⚡│ask-community message

[upbeat knoll]

Hi everyone, is it possible to upload a pdf script into a thread on iOS to be used as source whenever I ask something in this specific thread?

The idea is to upload my study script and use perplexity as a sparring partner. Maybe even to let it create exercises from the script i‘ve uploaded.

[halcyon coral]

File upload is currently only possible via https://pplx.ai

[upbeat knoll]

Hey there! Thanks a lot for your quick reply😊🙏🏼 I‘ll use the website for this case then.

Are threads synced between web & mobile? Thinking about setting everything up on the web version and use it mobile whenever I am not at home

[tranquil orchid]

Hey @upbeat knoll!

If you find the original message helpful, please consider reacting to it with the :star: emoji. If the post is appreciated by the community and receives 5 stars, it will go to the https://discord.com/channels/1047197230748151888/1082806833938436228 channel and the post author will get the <@&1082034222778302614> role on Perplexity.

[halcyon coral]

Yes threads are synced

[sinful pine]

i tried again but this time fixed... i dont know how...

[delicate dome]

Is perplexity supposed to use gemini under the hood?

[serene sand]

https://thenewstack.io/more-than-an-openai-wrapper-perplexity-pivots-to-open-source/

[delicate dome]

I'm not sure how it's supposed to work but from what I can see it's just running gemini's api?

Came around a yt video about perplexity and decided to try it out, and from what I can see, it's indeed using gemini's api coz the responses match. Still idk, correct me if I'm wrong.

[agile jay]

I believe they stopped using Gemini. You are getting that response because of the sources being passed in, lol.

The default model is a fine-tune of GPT 3.5 and lamma2.

[delicate dome]

I asked it a genuine question though the response matched gemini

[halcyon coral]

Please check this, it's the same "issue" #1198438847877480629

[agile jay]

Yep, people don't get how LLM's work it seems.

[devout bronze]

a lot of times they couldn’t care less either, it’s kinda sad ngl

[solid shuttle]

I've got a question? Is the Nothing Perplexity Pro offer stackable with the Rabbit Perplexity Pro offer? What I mean by that is can the 1 year I would get for buying a Nothing 2a be set up to start when the 1 year I got for buying a Rabbit r1 ends?

[livid mantle]

Thankyou for your hard work guys.

[agile jay]

Nope, only 1 coupon at once, I believe.

[solid shuttle]

But it would be one at a time. I could even let a bit of time elapse between the r1 offer and the 2a offer.

[agile jay]

Some might only apply for new pro users.

[solid shuttle]

That's the condition I was wondering about tbh.

[pine dagger]

I believe it is Mistral 7B.

[inner gale]

@neat elk @wheat granite Hey, My name is Parv Jain and I am a senior in high school. I am interested in Business, AI, and Tech and intend to major in these fields. I love Perplexity and love the technology and mission and would love to help out in any way possible. Please let me know if you know any other things I can do to help out with testing/research purposes or marketing/business wise, helping with partnerships or anything else. I would love to get started and help out at Perplexity!

[minor shard]

https://x.com/aravsrinivas/status/1767614488394830072?s=46

Aravind Srinivas (@AravSrinivas) on X

Will make Perplexity Pro free, if Mikhail makes Microsoft Copilot free

Twitter · Mar 12, 2024, 6:11 PM

lol

[sage lily]

I seen this lol. Was going to post it.

But imagine though. Ad based Perplexity.ai pro.

Mikhail needs to step up the game. Remove the cost per month, add ads. I'm keen.

Alex is typing a novel lol. 😂

[signal hamlet]

Hey, @inner gale! Glad to see you're willing to help, but please avoid tagging the team directly. For all job applications kindly check pplx.it/careers. Thank you!

[sage lily]

Didn't Aravind try to hire someone from Google as well?

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.ndtv.com/feature/perplexity-ai-ceo-shares-how-google-retained-an-employee-he-wanted-to-hire-5074830/amp/1

[inner gale]

Will do! There is nothing on the careers page for my qualifications but please keep me in mind if you need any interns.

[sage lily]

The Perplexity.ai ceo going all out.

As soon as the person who was planning to leave Google for Perplexity.ai told Google about his offer, the candidate/employee told Google and Google offered him 4 times the amount of money Aravind offered for him to stay at Google.

[minor shard]

lol is this the same as the meta employee he tried to get?

[sage lily]

That's crazy. 4 times, Google offered lol.

[minor shard]

Wow

[sage lily]

This apparently according to the article for the Meta employee was about Perplexity.ai not having enough compute.

[minor shard]

Really goes to show how underpaid people are

[gaunt crater]

Yee I mean I am pleb but I have seen it where I work, sometimes the most important, useful people are also loyal and just get no compensation and don't fight for what they're worth
And our entire employment system is based around rewarding job hoppers and punishing loyalty and is unlikely to swing in the other direction anytime soon

[minor shard]

Yeah true

[whole lark]

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/technology/new-rabbit-r1-demo-promises-a-world-without-apps-and-a-lot-more-talking-to-your-tech/ar-BB1jLHhR

Are we almost ready to get it?

[round plover]

I can't wait until my Rabbit R1 arrives

demo seems legit

[ripe void]

Gemini ultra model option soon? 👀

[solid shuttle]

I’m in batch 1, should be just a few weeks now

[shadow lake]

Anything special about it that can't be done with mobile phone?

[solid shuttle]

Yep, LAM. There’s no app for that.

[shadow lake]

Hmm, gotta research that.

[gaunt crater]

As we await news on a larger Opus allowance, I'm hoping Anthropic isn't just sitting on their API devs, jailyard bully style until their compute capacity is increased

I have no evidence, just a speculative concern based on users complaining of throttling on the official claude.ai service.

[oblique flame]

Just be aware,
It’s not a phone replacement, wasn’t designed to be.

It cannot text message or take calls.

[valid yoke]

Here, I fixed your link:

https://www.techradar.com/computing/artificial-intelligence/new-rabbit-r1-demo-promises-a-world-without-apps-and-a-lot-more-talking-to-your-tech

[potent gyro]

Does anyone know if there is a url parameter to use pro search by default (default search engine)? This works: https://www.perplexity.ai/?q=%s but always runs the search without pro enabled.

[gaunt crater]

What if Anthropic just did an email saying Dear devs who actually use our API for services, we are out of compute. You get no more until we say so. This email never happened. Love, Anthropic

[fossil sentinel]

Man I tried to upload the great gatsby on Claude few days ago and couldn't 😭

Did they reduce context size for free users?

The book only showed as 30k Tokens to me on gemini 1.5

[fossil sentinel]

https://www.theverge.com/2024/3/12/24098728/perplexity-chatbot-yelp-suggestions-data-ai

Wait...

[minor shard]

I've been using it for finding the best deals, and and the best of certain type of product based on reviews. Really so much you can do with Perplexity.

Once perplexity goes mainstream, Google Search is gonna be screwed

[round plover]

interesting...

[stoic wave]

Thats literally Google on steroids lol

[feral hazel]

Google has Gemini now. Unfortunately, performance is inferior to GPT4 and Claude 3 at the moment. If Gemini doesn't improve, Google is screwed. With its enormous resources, too early to write off Google now

[vapid onyx]

Google can realistically dump so much money into it before deciding it should be killed

Apple has also hinted at AI related updates in their coming software releases. Another competitor in the market it sounds like.

[minor shard]

I am very interested to see what they come out with. They however are much slower than the rest of the AI space so I wonder if this will be a constant thing and if it will hurt or help them.

[vapid onyx]

Yeah I agree with you. I mean, the Apple Vision Pro was a delayed item and it came out as a pretty solid first gen device for them showcasing that they’ve improved the mindset of first generation devices of theirs

[fossil sentinel]

Inferior but I find it pretty convenient to use for mobile lol

[devout bronze]

will perplexity ever get code interpretation?

it would be nice for it to be able to run, say, python scripts to get accurate calculations and solve complex math problems

maybe send the video link instead of the thumbnail?

[livid mantle]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=shJTJjjiqy8

[devout bronze]

@neat elk ||sorry for ping, just curious tho||

[austere kestrel]

comments are pretty brutal lol

[fossil sentinel]

The only ai channel I trust and am willing to watch is AI Explained

[fossil sentinel]

Lmao

[austere kestrel]

i mean tbf seems a weird direction. Synthesing reviews from different / competing platforms might be useful. But this is pretty basic. I'd rather it perfected general internet searching before going down niche paths like this

[austere kestrel]

I'm with you there - he does a really good job

[fossil sentinel]

Yeah who ever checks the yelp page

[halcyon coral]

Please add &copilot=true

[rotund terrace]

is preplexity good for coding?

[slim ridge]

guys whats best way to summarise a pdf on perplexity pro- and which is the best "AI model" to use- or does this not matter?=

[vapid onyx]

Focus mode should be writing. Not sure what the pdf is about but I’d use GPT4 or Perplexity for quick generation. Could also use one of your Claude Opus responses if it’s important to ya.

[fading furnace]

to use claude opus do i just go to settings and change the model to claude3?
and ask normally?

[vapid onyx]

Yep!

[slim ridge]

how do you mean focus mode?

[vapid onyx]

You can change the focus mode with various options. Like the image referenced.

[slim ridge]

where is that option in web browser/laptop

[slim ridge]

many thanks!

when i ask it to summarise the text from a youtube transcript it says it cannot because its copyrighted???

[agile jay]

Just say you want a summary for your YouTube video, to post online or something like that.

Claude tends to do your command when you explain why you need it fulfilled.

[wraith crow]

imo it's great for coding, I use it daily as a SE. It has saved me a lot of time in troubleshooting.

[livid mantle]

u using the gpt 4 turbo in perplexity

for coding

[wraith crow]

For coding I mostly use Claude 3 Sonnet.

[livid mantle]

oh i thought theres only opus in perplexity

[wraith crow]

You have 5 opus uses after that it will use sonnet

[tame current]

Is claude 3 better than gpt4 turbo for coding?

[livid mantle]

ohh right right

[tame current]

I usually use bingai copilot for coding

[lusty mantle]

Gpt4 turbo is still better at coding

There model thing they showed beating gpt4 was just normal gpt4 and not turbo

[tame current]

For some reason bing ai is better at remembering previous messages compared to perplexity

[lusty mantle]

@tame current I kinda agree on that one

[wraith crow]

in most of my cases claude seems to hallucinate less. Most of the time I can basically copy/ paste pieces of code and it will work, this was not the case with gpt4 for me.

[agile jay]

Mostly to do with the sources, since they fill the context faster.

[austere kestrel]

I wonder if it just preserves the query-response-query-response chain (i.e. and none of the sources/context that were used to inform each response) in the context window? Would make a major difference (and hard to understand the discrepancy, given bing/copilot is powered by gpt4 iirc)

[agile jay]

The number of sources used by perplexity is just a lot larger.

I've had many searches where it's using over 20 sources

[austere kestrel]

Guess it also depends on the actual number of tokens used by each source. Like it's not the full article (given the "snippets" language used by Perplexity)

But without knowing how each system actually uses the material from each source, it seems kinda hard to put it down just to the number of sources retrieved imo

[shadow lake]

Doesn't perplexity use Google for search results ?

[stoic wave]

It can scrape results from any search engine

not sure imo

[agile jay]

No, they have their own indexer

Which is why it's so fast.

[vocal owl]

https://youtu.be/RTCVzZb3RTE?si=f6g5qVBr1NldkVB_&t=1982
they use other indexes and crawler as like a starting point but they're also focusing on making their own indexer as well, seems to be quite a huge task to undertake
(starting at 33 mins roughly)

[austere kestrel]

but also why there are some gaps (not a criticism; just a reality)

[vocal owl]

as for how its fast, they might cache websites or pre-fetch data or something and maybe their own indexer has those common websites, its hard to say though

[austere kestrel]

nice, thanks

[austere kestrel]

indexing is kinda by definition caching, no?

[vocal owl]

yeah

[austere kestrel]

Like you take a snapshot and put that in the index

[agile jay]

It's fast because they're using embeddings.

It's how Google works, too.

[vocal owl]

i see

[round plover]

Good morning

[austere kestrel]

Every RAG system uses embeddings/vectors - I don't think that accounts for the speed. I think they've just optimised and done this whole AI supported internet search at scale and better than anyone else yet

But it's not clear to me that there's any secret sauce - they just do it well 🤷‍♂️

[austere kestrel]

I thought their secret sauce was the whole page ranking system underlying the algorithm

And then they're able to crawl the web at a breadth and frequency that noone else really can just due to the resources required to maintain that coverage / rececency across so much of the surface web

[agile jay]

The page ranking works based on which pages are used most for queries. And they are de-merited if the page made the answer worse etc.

A pretty simple design, but don't know how many users actually rate the responses.

Also for rare queries I imagine it performs worse.

[austere kestrel]

"The page ranking works based on which pages are used most for queries"
This isn't my wheelhouse so I may be way off, but that really is not how I understood the page ranking system to work in terms of Google's algorithm

[agile jay]

I'm talking about perplexity.

[austere kestrel]

ohhh sorry right gotcha

[agile jay]

Google uses embeddings, SEO, Popularity and back links.

Not including advertising, which gets pushed to the top.

[livid mantle]

google killed ai seo

[austere kestrel]

yeah but (at least before SEO...), I thought back links were actually the central part of it all. Like it basically borrowed from academic papers: more citations [generally] = more credibility / authority. Like kinda explained in the screenshot

[agile jay]

Well they tried to, but people will then just use other indexers.

[agile jay]

The order was not in what's most important. Just the different techniques.

[austere kestrel]

understood 👍

[agile jay]

But pretty sure the most important is gonna be the most popular/viewed pages.

[agile jay]

Lol, even though that incentivizes to link to your other papers/pages to increase your Q score.

[austere kestrel]

I don't really get that lol but whatever they did, it's fair to say it has worked pretty well for them...

[agile jay]

Not really, since people are getting more and more pissed off about the search results.

They are just lucky they own most of the market before the problems started popping up.

[austere kestrel]

if you don't think google has been a successful company then we are coming at this from very different angles 😅
anyway..

[agile jay]

Google is successful, but that is mainly related to advertising and good acquisitions.

I can't remember a recent thing they've made which was successful and wasn't just an acquisition.

It's also why they have the largest graveyard in big tech.

[austere kestrel]

the company's success is inextricably linked to its position as the world's dominant search engine - no one would pay for ads, and it would no have money to acquire other ocmpanies, if it didn't do that core function better than any other company to get it to that position in the first place

[agile jay]

https://killedbygoogle.com/

[austere kestrel]

I get that the quality has degraded ("add Reddit" etc) and it has released/acquired a whole graveyard of failed products

but it's google lol

[minor shard]

I think a good point to make is also the most recent calls from investors to have the current CEO step down. Thats usually a sign that things are not going well: https://www.businessinsider.com/calls-for-google-ceo-sundar-pichai-alphabet-step-down-ai-2024-3

[austere kestrel]

I'm sure coca cola has fired a bunch of CEOs over the years

Doesn't make it a failed company lol

[minor shard]

Lol this comment from their 20th every emploee made some good points: https://twitter.com/marissamayer/status/1763354254956429326

marissamayer (@marissamayer) on X

@othman Very thought provoking post, @Othman! Not sure I agree with all of your views, but my takeaways are:

• Google needs to start caring more about winning in AI than about internal politics/political agendas. From the outside, it appears there’s a high level of “hand-tuning” going…

Twitter · Mar 1, 2024, 12:03 AM

[agile jay]

I never said they failed. I said they are degrading/dying.

Their main ways of making money are slowly dying.

For example using perplexity, do you see search ads?

When you have more models like Sora, then YouTube will also start having competition.

[minor shard]

Google is definitely not failed, just not keeping up.

[austere kestrel]

fair yeah "failed" was a misrepresentation - I'll accept that

it just seems like the same as saying the US isn't a superpower because it does dumb things like invade Iraq

I mean it's true, but kinda misses the whole "superpowe" bit

[vapid onyx]

This page made me laugh

[livid mantle]

ya man im on bing now or baidu, even yandex

[austere kestrel]

But yeah for sure, if the argument is just that Google has passed it's prime and it's slowly downhill for it from here etc - I guess I'd say I prob agree

[austere kestrel]

And what preceded all of that...?
Google search

[livid mantle]

uncle sundar pichai

[agile jay]

Yep, that's the problem though. Since people are using Google less, their main source of revenue is being harmed.

[austere kestrel]

I mean according to that chart, ad revenue from search is up 11% yoy, and makes up $44bn of the total $60bn in ad revenue it gets (YT by comarison makes up $8bn)

[fluid mauve]

Off topic- Granted that I used an Image from EconomyApp to create it, but the image of " How Google Makes Money" bears a striking resemblence to an article I wrote on Medium about creating Plotly sankey diagrams.
https://medium.com/@twelsh37/further-adventures-in-plotly-sankey-diagrams-fdba9ff08af6

But then again. maybe they just did it themselves without reading my article.

[agile jay]

Yep, it's a normal diagram, pretty sure the one I posted was posted on reddit.

https://www.reddit.com/r/Infographics/comments/17j907h/how_google_makes_money/

[crisp rapids]

Hi! I would like to know who made the illustrations on the app and the web. That one for example. Thanks!

[minor shard]

Definitely a well done image, although i think it may be AI generated cause of hand issue lol

[crisp rapids]

yes, that's what I thought

4 fingers hand

Still, the image is beautiful

[fluid mauve]

I'm off to play with it in Stable diffusion 😛

[fluid mauve]

re thinking its AI generates. are you basing that on the finger spacing on the left hand?

[minor shard]

Yeah

[fluid mauve]

or the 3 fingers. DOH!!! m

[minor shard]

Im very excited for SD3. Can't wait for it to release

[fluid mauve]

same

though probably OT for here

[fluid mauve]

It will be even more beautiful with my face in it :P. not that i've dome any image to image stuff yet

[livid mantle]

i only see 4 fingers

whats this dall e 3? playground 2.5? stable diff xdl?

[queen flame]

probably just a single nucleotide polymorphism

[livid mantle]

ah

[formal hinge]

Hi, where can i find a "roadmap" for Perplexity?

[minor shard]

lmao love this

[minor shard]

I don't believe there is a public one. There is a lot of feedback/ideas/requests that get shared here and the team responds to them with any information they currently have or can provide.

[formal hinge]

Thank you for your answer, so basically i've to make myself one, with no potential dates?

[minor shard]

I would check out the #💭│ideas or #👉│feedback-general areas to see if anything you are looking for has been suggested or even maybe suggest it yourself if it hasn't been suggested. The team usually responds and provides an idea of what to expect.

[pure jolt]

hey gang how are you all.

I'm new to this slack and I thought the community and the product was incredible but I was looking a leverage this tool for a little bit of help and it seems like I'm in a chat with a bunch of superintelligence bright people. I am looking for an AI to generate assets for me a lot like supplement labels and content for creative while also having an API built out for some small stuff I need to market my business and to pass financial data from one environment to another.

Does anyone have any pointers or direction where I could start with this while being not that technical? if so feel free to direct message me so I don't blow up a common space with personal things

[fluid mauve]

Hi, Welcome. I would say to write out a well structured question and ask perplexity for help in doing that.
I would then read up on what perplexity suggested including reading/watching the citations, then re askthe question again, with your newfound knowledge.

[pure jolt]

Will do I'm brand new to using this AI and I have been very impressed so far. Like shocked

[fluid mauve]

just dont take everything you read as truthful. As we say in CyberSecurity, "Trust, BUT VERIFY"

[serene sand]

welcome! deep dive ➤#💬│general message you can start with tutorials from this post

[austere kestrel]

always be skeptical but yeah it's really incredible what AI can do - the more you use these systems, the more you will understand their capabilities and limitations, and get the most out of it

I find it wild that there are people who are almost totally dismissive of 'ChatGPT' as just a fad... they're getting left behind quickly ha

[pure jolt]

for sure my productivity has probably jumped up north of. 60% between this and notebook LLM, things have changed for me

[fluid mauve]

I keep forgetting about Notebook LLM. It still isn't available outside of US of A. I iniyially used my VPN to take an look. but cant be bothered doing that all the time

[pure jolt]

I've been using it for some pretty hard-core research. So what I usually do is I go to Google scholar type in the subject that I want information on and then pull 20 or 40 different PDFs of research and then upload it into notebook llm and have it explained everything to me so if anyone wants to see an example of it I can drop you over a link of something that I used it for the other day where I think once you put eyes to it you'll understand how big of a deal that is for anyone who wants to launch a business but doesn't wanna make unfounded claims or anything along those lines

[fluid mauve]

My productivity is also up due to AI, and you are correct about the people who don't get it. Its not a fad and it will end up changing the working landscape.

Another tool I use a lot for summarizing you tube vids etc is Daniel Miesslers fabric . I just cpy the trandscript and get a summary of the video, I can then decide whether its worth watching. I sift a lot of these now and stick them in a db. its growing by the day. https://github.com/danielmiessler/fabric

heres an abridges extract of the previous video on GPT 4.5

SUMMARY:
The video discusses a potential leak of GPT 4.5 by OpenAI,...

IDEAS:

• The potential leak of GPT 4.5 has stirred speculation and analysis within the AI community.

QUOTES:

• "Jimmy Apples essentially tweeted This...I'm sure it's an accidental typo."

HABITS:

• Regularly monitoring and analyzing AI industry news and leaks.

FACTS:

• GPT 4.5 is rumored to have leaked, with speculation fueled by tweets from credible sources.

REFERENCES:

• Tweets from Jimmy Apples regarding the potential leak of GPT 4.5
  RECOMMENDATIONS:
• Stay informed about AI developments by following credible sources and analyzing patterns in releases.
• Compare new AI models against industry benchmarks to assess their potential impact.

It uses chatGPT API to pull back the information and he has what he calls patterns for his prompts.
I'm looking to use Perplexity API to pull the info and switch out ChatGPT, but that could be the same for any Ai with and API and prompt

I am running it under windows subsusyem for Linux (WSL)

[fluid mauve]

Perhaps I should go take another look. Thats the issue with all the AI turmoil, so many Tools so little time. I have spent the last week installing and then learning Stable diffusion and ComfyUI just so I can talk about it authoratativly.

Notebook LLM would have been a great 'assistant' for my MSc in CyberSecurity. i must have read huncreds of PDF's for my dissertation

[sleek vortex]

whats everyones opinions on

devin thing

[fluid mauve]

Funny how I cant see that tweet.

[minor shard]

lol oh well I guess it’s gone, I just deleted the message cause it’s gone now. I guess someone wasn’t happy with ppl knowing that info? Idk

[fluid mauve]

haha yeah

[livid mantle]

My productivity is also up due to AI same

[fluid mauve]

I guess it wasnt my VPN after all

[fluid mauve]

I'll wait till its around for us mortals to evaluate. Fro what i have read so far its a closed shop at Cognition currently and they arre tight lippwed aboiutt it. Only a few choice people have had access. Well from the few articles I have just read.

[sleek vortex]

yeah hmm

it looks promising but

kinda slow too

[fluid mauve]

but it can be slow 24 hours a day whereas you and i can be slow 8 hours a day. I would imagine its output would surpass ours .

[night pawn]

We have so little information about Devin that it’s not clear how competent it is. I think all we have is one software engineering benchmark, which shows a steep improvement but — let’s be real — a 14% hit rate doesn’t inspire a great deal of confidence that it can do anything you throw at it.

[fluid mauve]

Agreed, but 14% this year could be much higher in a few months time.

I also got bored of watching all the Cognition enginers posting videos

[wild bridge]

why can't you remove credit card even if auto renew is off?

[fluid mauve]

I fired up the VPN and had a play with Notebook LLM. pity it is experimental as I could only frrd it 10 documents. I had about 80 I wanted to play with. Anyhoo. i feed it a Companies Annual reports for 5 years and asked a few questions. It was good at retrevial and I can definitly see some great use cases.

I hope perplexity comes out with something similar

[whole quartz]

I never seen anything like this before I done prompted all the popular llms this "How to choose thee right ear tip for best sound" and they all responded closely the same here goes.,
Finding the right ear tip is all about getting a perfect balance between comfort and sound quality. Here's what you need to consider:
Fit and Seal:

• This is key! A good seal creates a barrier between your ear canal and outside noise, which is crucial for both deep bass and noise isolation.
• The tip shouldn't be so loose it falls out, but also not so tight it's uncomfortable.
• Try the finger test: Gently put your finger in your ear (start with your pinky). If a certain finger creates a good seal and muffles outside noise, try an ear tip size similar to that finger's width.
  Size and Material:
• Most earphones come with multiple sized tips (small, medium, large). Experiment with all of them to find the snug yet comfortable fit for your ears.
• There are two main materials:
  • Silicone: These are common, affordable, and easy to clean. They come in various shapes like single flange, double flange, and triple flange.
  • Memory Foam: These conform to the shape of your ear canal for a great seal and noise isolation. However, they can be more expensive and harder to clean.

[atomic kayak]

👍👍👍

[agile jay]

Rip the roundness of those speech bubbles...

[livid mantle]

ikr

[gaunt crater]

I get that it's on claude.ai but kind of funny when so is Opus
"Try Haiku, you'll like it better! Honestly. ||Please. Our H100s are on fire and our accountant just jumped out the window.||"

[serene sand]

https://x.com/perplexity_ai/status/1768046817550188948?s=46&t=JsxhFTRLBknd8RUv1f73bA

Perplexity (@perplexity_ai) on X

Claude 3 Haiku is available for free on Perplexity Labs. Try it now! https://t.co/Zh5Hc4m9qX

Twitter · Mar 13, 2024, 10:49 PM

[vivid kraken]

For the mods here, how can I have the pro tag?

[serene sand]

#💬│general message

[minor shard]

Looks like Claude got rid of 2.0 with the release of Haiku https://www.reddit.com/r/ClaudeAI/comments/1be3um4/support_for_claude_20_and_older_has_been_removed/

[gaunt crater]

Assuming that's just the claude.ai service but RIP. I never tried Claude 1 but Claude 2 really impressed me with its prose writing abilities even if it was overshadowed by the phenomenon GPT-4 became.

[queen cypress]

Just today I was also looking for where there's a Discord server or Matrix server chat room where lots of Anthropic (i.e. Claude API) devs hang out and didn't find it yet. It's nice to know about this reddit topic, but does anyone know of any chat rooms dedicated to Anthropic stuff?

I actually asked Claude itself and it gave me a Discord link that was of a room that apparently no longer exists.

[potent gyro]

Nice, this seems to work. Thanks much!

[vivid kraken]

hello

[minor shard]

Hi!

[astral needle]

how active is it here?

[tacit pasture]

can't seem to login with google on android

[ionic orbit]

sup everyone

[tacit pasture]

email login is also just sending a login email

anyone else has this problem on android?

i'm using a pixel 6 pro

[fossil sentinel]

Anyone having long response times from gemini 1.5?

[fossil sentinel]

They definitely changed something and not in a good way

[compact bough]

GPT5???

Source: https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/microsoft-copilot

[livid mantle]

microsoft already have gpt5?

[fossil sentinel]

I remember reading a headline saying copilot will have gpt 4 turbo because openai might release 4.5 soon

[compact bough]

I feel its a teaser

[fossil sentinel]

But I don't really follow updates

Ok I'm guessing they made a typo with GPT-4 Turbo on that one

[livid mantle]

Wait I just checked it, I can confirm its real

Only selected users though

[fossil sentinel]

Real but most likely typo

Yep

[minor shard]

lol

I wish it was real

Is this pro version just as locked down as the free version?

[fossil sentinel]

Any google dev lurkers in chat pls fix gemini 1.5 responses for long context prompts 🙏 your update is trash 😭

[compact bough]

Most likely not a typo. Why would they update that section into a typo?

[fossil sentinel]

Because everywhere else on their sites say gpt 4 turbo lol

[tawny elbow]

OpenAI “accidentally” released a blog claiming 4.5 was released with knowledge cutoff of June 2024

It’s probably just a strategy to create hype since Claude is taking it away from them for the time being

[compact bough]

Yea

[livid mantle]

A "leaked" blog post hinting at GPT-4.5, even if accidental, could spark a lot of buzz.

I think a lot unsubscribed to chatgpt and move to claude 3.

https://tenor.com/view/hysterical-laughter-laughing-gif-25735842

[minor shard]

I completely missed this! Thats awesome! literally the moment it comes out!! and its fast! This is gonna be crazy for searches.

[fossil sentinel]

I should've just joined the server sooner 😂

[minor shard]

Any luck with it? Interested to see if its better than Claude lol

[fossil sentinel]

Well ive been enjoying its use thus far

[zealous totem]

How does it compare to claude and gpt4?

[fossil sentinel]

Well in terms of capability google say it's comparable to ultra 1.0

But I've mainly been testing it with uploading textbooks and asking relevant subject questions

Feels a lot more reliable when it's grounded in a full textbook of info that it can directly reference 😂

[minor shard]

lol sounds great!

[zealous totem]

so it’s 1 million context thing is good?

[fossil sentinel]

Also the video stuff is p cool too

[fossil sentinel]

Yes

It's made me realize how useful long context can be lol

[zealous totem]

damn that’s good, hope i can get access to it sometime

[fossil sentinel]

This was some stuff I tried out when I first got access

[zealous totem]

WOW It can watch video too??

[fossil sentinel]

Yep

No audio yet

It's just considering it as a bunch of images I think using the frames lol

Which is why long context is pretty useful for videos

[zealous totem]

Oh yeah it says 20k context lol

The whole video

That’s pretty neat

[royal niche]

Hey all, is there like a trashcan I can recover stuff from? I am stupid and went to delete one of my threads at the top and accidently deleted them all. RIP. If not, I propose a 1 day tashcan for recovery #💭│ideas

[fossil sentinel]

Not perfect tho

[zealous totem]

damn

[zealous totem]

i remember thinking gemini’s vision was pretty garbage

at least the advanced one

(when i tried it)

[fossil sentinel]

Really? I think it's superior

[zealous totem]

this is really in depth wow

[fossil sentinel]

In depth but not exactly accurate nor logical in its explanation lol