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I gave another prompt to perplexity, and had Claude 2.1 write the response, and for the second time it did not site the sources in the response, and i had to ask it again to do that
Do not worry; simply attempt it with the document that exceeds 50 pages.
hello.. is it possible to change an account's email address? also are there any plans to go the username/password/2FA route in lieu of email prompts at some point?
also with Pro, what is the difference between regular queries with GPT-4 and copilot with GPT-4?
Good question
Perplexity Copilot is your conversational search guide. Instead of quick, generic results, Copilot engages with you, fine-tuning its answers based on your needs.
gotcha.. so the model is the same, just the inputs are more fine-tuned
That’s right.
While Quick Search gives you fast, basic answers, Copilot goes further. It asks for details, considers your preferences, dives deeper, and then delivers pinpoint results.
A Collection on Perplexity AI by lexi — Students and academics, meet your ultimate research assistant. Imagine you're knee-deep in literature reviews. Don't just settle for endless scrolling. Copilot not only digs through academic databases but also asks what specifically you're looking for. The result? A tailored list of sources and even summar...
A Collection on Perplexity AI by lexi — Be the unsung hero of your workplace. Lawyers, why drown in legal documents when Copilot can pinpoint case laws? Marketers, imagine having trend analyses summarized and served on a platter. Developers, think of debugging in minutes, not hours. Copilot delivers the data you need to make informed, impactful ...
can the api use search features like the website?
no (not yet?)
Not sure if yall have been following Bard. I recently realized it can access my files in Google Drive (ok, Google Workspace), which opens up a ton of possibilities. It would be interesting to see if yall are looking to explore this area.
bard is good, if you want to find something that bard can find. Bard would generate good response. Still it would prefer making things up to answer, and won't say a "No, I can't find that information". Based on my exp on Bard.
cool
Hey, atm it's not possible to change the email address 🙂
No, but as you can see in the roadmap, an online LLM is coming soon 😉
You can find the roadmap here:
https://docs.perplexity.ai/docs/feature-roadmap
pplx-api's roadmap is as follows:Early November Stop words and request time limits as parameters Text completion API for Mistral 7B Code Llama 16k context length End of November Online LLM November+ Mistral 32k context length
Copilot is copilot regardless of which tier of perplexity you have. The pro tier just gives you more copilot searches. Copilot uses a fine tuned version of gpt-3.5 which was trained specially for copilot.
Co-pilot asks questions that are relevant to your search and search results giving you even more subject matter to ask if you couldn't already find what you were looking for
I've been learning with perplexity and I use co-pilot in addition to chat-gpt4 and all of my responses have been spot on.
Chatgpt-3 is great, however it's very surface level information.
Perplexity isn't a LLM, then what is it? I'm not that technically inclined
"Students and academics, meet your ultimate research assistant. Imagine you're knee-deep in literature reviews. Don't just settle for endless scrolling. Copilot not only digs through academic databases but also asks what specifically you're looking for. The result? A tailored list of sources and even summarized papers. Say hello to more time and smarter research."
I can confirm this is true
Learning has been such a breeze
All models of the pplx API are LLM's, in the case of the online LLM it has access to the internet, you can already test it on https://labs.perplexity.ai 🙂
Is it the first LLM to have access to the internet?
On the pplx API? Yes!
I am a strange loop
Mean anything to you?
AI and neural nets have taught me a lot about how self-referential we are and I never even stopped to think about it
To understand self recursion one must understand self recursion.
Talking is basically just referencing right
lol
What is the purpose of an online llm?
Having access to real time data.
Right
Like a human-being continuously adding another layer in a sequence
But can't perplexity already search for things on the internet regardless of age?
My understanding is this... If you only know one context of a word, lets say "honey". You know honey to be this sweet substance that bees make for us. Well if you only know one context of what honey is then that creates a feedback loop because you only know that context
When you introduce another context to honey to a LLM, like you say honeymoon then it creates another computational layer and adds that to the sequence
learning more and more
Is an online llm important because then the llm that reads the search results can sound more accurate?
An online LLM that has access to real time data would be ubiquitous in nature no? You still need inputs
Setting parameters and rules is what tailors the responses?
I don't know what this means?
The term "ubiquitous" suggests a widespread and constant presence, and in this context, it means that the LLM is not only available online but also has the capability to interact with and process real-time data from the internet.
It would be more accurate as long as the llm can remember all the data retrieved
You can't simply shove 100 results into llms for now
It can't process 100 search queries at one time you mean?
1 query at a time is sufficient enough IMO
But an online llm could do this?
But think about how much more authoritative the response could be if it read 100 results.....
requests
100 requests
An online llm just means you are injecting external data, cleaning up html, then injecting the sources in the prompt. Accuracy may vary depending on how much your prompt dize + all the fetched results are. Some people drop whole documents with search then say llms are inaccurate, the context window is very fast exceeded
Perplexity will summarise sources with copilot because fitting 21 sources is quite expensive
I have found that I get the best results and repsonses when I tailor my phrased questions in a way that it can find the best results
Like you said it is pulling data based on your prompt so the better the prompt is the better result youll get
So then that data doesn't need to be manually cleaned by low skill workers?
I think pplx works well for academics
Im not limiting its capabilities towards only academic pull requests, rather saying that it works very well at parsing through miscellaneous information to fetch you the best answer possible
Going forward, more models will adopt synthetic data, it can be just as good as manual data
That is true
What is synthetic data
That is also true, but a 4 page prompt probably won't yield super good results 😛
as opposed to manual data
Synthetic data is data generated by machine learning methods, or llms
Using generated data to train models
There was a paper that used 8 manual inserted examples to generate over 50k examples
The paper is called promptagator or something like that
So my inputs vs already generated data scraped from web pages?
The stuff scraped from web pages is human data most likely,
So indirectly synthetic
In a sense, Unstructured human data, since manual data is typically labelled
If you can solve AI feeding itself it's own generated data without model collapse and have it have enough memory, you can probably have AGI
No no you explained it well
I dont click links
Ill jot that title down and learn about it though thank you
If Einstein were alive
We could unlock secrets
If we dont use AI to kill each other first
We now have ai controlled jets
The military industrial complex with AI 💀
When i hear “synthetic data” i think of data that isn’t real, and “manual data” being everything on the internet written by humans. Is that wrong?
Only thing I would change in your statement is data being generated instead of not real
But wait, if synthetic data is not human generated, then what generates the knowledge that would go into an ai powered search engine? AGI doesn’t exist yet, so doesn’t’ human generated knowledge need to be the only thing entered into LLMs?
I still don’t know what this means. If perplexity runs on synthetic data, where does the knowledge of say, distilling alcohol, come from?
Perplexity is scraping real web pages, which very likely have been written by human beings. Assume that is manual data. Say you do not use the Internet, and ask the llm to generate a list of ficticious facts about the moon. Let's say you have about 100 examples of it. Now you go train an LLM with those examples, and you do the same process again and again. What will end up happening is very likely the dataset being corrupted by the synthetic data, while originally the llm was trained on human labelled data.
The LLM is 1 component, the search is another, llms are stuck in time, all perplexity is doing what you would do in chatgpt, you can copy paste a wikipedia article and your question, the effect is the same
It most likely is not yet scraping synthethic data yet
The web is slowly being filled with LLM generated content, which then perplexity will scrape synthethic data, as thats all that is on the web
Oh, so then synthetic data is a bad thing? Because i have heard that the accuracy of LLMs will be affected by how much ai generated content is on the internet, which is a bad thing
I assume you mean that chat-gpt will actually read Wikipedia articles that you send it?
Okay, so, my big question is: do the makers of perplexity want all of the things that perplexity knows to be generated by ai, or do they want all of its knowledge to be generated by humans?
Because i can’t imagine why they would want all to its knowledge to be generated by ai, because then experts from fields relevant to the knowledge would have to manually verify it.
The popup to use the app on iOS on every tab open is quite annying :/
test
A lawyer bought a box of cigars and insured them for, among other things, fire. Within a month, he had smoked them all and filed a claim against the insurance company. This is a true story that was reported in the newspaper. In his claim, the lawyer stated that the cigars were lost in a series of small fires. The insurance company refused to pay, citing the obvious reason that the man had consumed the cigars in a normal fashion. The lawyer sued the insurance company and won. Rather than endure a long and costly appeal process, the insurance company accepted the ruling and paid $15,000 to the lawyer for the loss of his cigars. After the lawyer cashed the check, the insurance company had him arrested on 24 counts of arson. The lawyer was convicted of intentionally burning the insured property and was sentenced, no kidding, to 24 months in jail and a $24,000 fine.
Is there a support channel or ticket system because i don't recieve any response from mail
Can perplexity remember message history?
Hi all!! Any idea on how can I get the maximum number of tokens perplexity can use at the moment? I mean the limit
yes it can, but it has its limits from what ive tried
Lol
I heard it from a YouTube short
Hey @mint flower! We have feedback channels for different versions of Perplexity. If it's some inaccuracy or a bug, you can report that in the #1140622008086970420 channel. If your question is more personal, e.g. billing things, please DM me.
I will help you to build, I know code
Anyway if I create the code it will be useless in a few months after the API beta... They will fix some $ for each request which cost me to sell the house 🤣🤣🤣😂
Can you elaborate
hello
in your guys experience does perplexity hallucinate the same as claude or bard?
Everyday I open Perplexity and pray for the day the gods of AI will decide to deliver an API as rich as this web expirience. This multimodality blows my mind everytime. All in an instant... sources, content, related, images, video....
Until then.... lets keep praying....
There's simply no competitor that deliver as much content for a prompt as Perplexity does.
To be able to whitelabel this and configure to offer custom expiriences for corporate users would be fantastic. Let alone other applications...
Is there a roadmap for perplexity?
So fully know this is a dumb question but just want one non marketing clarity. What advantages does perplexity offer over Bing Chat (which is what it’s built on). Or going direct to ChatGPT or Claude ?
Better
idk how
wait let me think haha
Well perplexity allows you to use claude
copilot to fine tune results
bing can browse the internet??
thats cools
lol - well not Bing….BingChat.
It more less does something similar
hmmm
idk then
if they both browse the web
i guess the website looks cooler on perplexity?
and theres a mobile app
And it’s not all MSFT with advertising
Fantastic!! So it has the ability to contextually focus
Is there a roadmap for perplexity?
yes
Just wonder, will there be new models added to the api?
How do we prove our sub status to get into pro chat?
I don't see you have the pro role, try logging out and in in multiple different ways
yeah leaving and joining with the pro invite link isn't working
tried on ios and mac
meh, nbd
@golden anvil is seems that there are lots of people in this server who claim to subscribe to perplexity, but can not access to pro section. How come this is?
You have to join using the pro link
⬆️ is this what you tried?
I'm part of the replit core membership, how do I claim my free perplexity pro?
You should have received an email about this, as far as I know.
I received an email saying I would receive an email, but then never received that email lol
From Replit?
yeah
I think the best thing to do would be to contact their support again 🤔
Alright thank you!
The answer is quite slow now? Does anyone else have this issue?
the site just went completely unresponsive for me, blanked, and error.
I keep receiving error like this. Anyone else?
Everything should work at the moment, only Claude responses may be slower (due to the Claude API) 🙂
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I am writing to inquire about an issue I encountered with my subscription. Previously, I sponsored six individuals under the impression that this would qualify me for a discount on my subscription renewal. However, I was surprised to find that I am still required to pay the full $20 fee. This is particularly disappointing as I made significant efforts to sponsor these individuals, expecting a discount in return.
I plan to renew my subscription at the beginning of next month, coinciding with my payday. Could you please advise on how I should proceed with this renewal, considering my sponsorship contributions?
Thank you for your attention to this matter.
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Hey @simple rivet,
please contact support via the icon in your settings.
Thanks in advance!
I can't find the icon, so I contacted the administrators in the discord several times and no one answers me.
"Pro Support"
I no longer have the pro version and I don't have this button
I see, then you can contact support@perplexity.ai
Thanks
So i was trying to find a repository of prompts for research and search, but all of the websites i could find using perplexity did not have prompts for research or search. One place was promptvine, but the promptvine website gives safari bad vibes, so i can’t access it (at least on my ipad)
whats perplexity's word limit?
Hello good morning, perplexity got stuck thinking about an investigation I'm doing, how can I fix it??
does it is use chatgpt 4
With https://www.perplexity.ai/pro you can use GPT-4
Unlock the most powerful AI research assistant. Raise Perplexity to the next level with Copilot, upgraded AI models, unlimited file upload, and API access.
thanks
All publicly available information can be found here: https://blog.perplexity.ai/blog/introducing-pplx-api
the above link still references replit. can somone on the team remove it from docs?
Weird question are the answers Always the Same ? Because many Friends in My class also use it and now im concerned if i needed to gatekeep this Ai because its the best and if no anyone has an idea how to solve this Problem ?
don't trust it to do entire hw assignments?
Yh but for example in class Test everyone uses it I personally dont use it in tests but in General i Think its My fault bc i didnt gatekeep it
Hi, I used the promo code to get $40 off for Perplexity Pro. I had thought that this would give me 2 free months, but it says that my plan renews on December 28. So will I get 2 months free, or would I have had to sign up for a year to get the full $40 credit?
Perplexity is one of the top 4 AI Chatbots, and I hope that more people will begin to realize that it is sometimes the best choice for certain tasks.
what do you guys reckon each model is beset for? like academic writing etc would be gpt4 or perplexity?
Qualcuno che parla italiano può darmi una mano ?
Second this. I mean I prefer Claude compared to gpt so I have been using that at the moment
what are you using it for though?
I said "Pizza is FORBIDDEN"
It apologize and hit me in my face....
it is TROLLING me... SO HARD.
I guess my Thread is with over 30 messages too long and that's why it gets broken.
Hey @hollow obsidian! It's not trolling you.) I always recommend editing the query where you see the model got you wrong, rather than telling it "you are wrong" in the following messages. If it doesn't help, you can copy the query, delete the last answer that wasn't what you expected and then ask again differently or start a new thread.
One more thing that you can do, is to try using the instruction & search operators like "-pizza" for this case. e.g., https://www.perplexity.ai/search/Rephrase-this-A-lVqtMCBDRrG_HOtb3h48MQ?s=c
You can put some instructions in your collection AI Prompt, like this:
https://www.perplexity.ai/collections/Minus-pizza-x8bGkBPcTfGZE_gK.Mk2Gg?s=c
I tried many things, I think my thread got just too long, that's why it could not "concentrate" anymore, at least that's how AI is in roleplay sites, after many messages get the memory of the conversation broken. I said it can remove something and then did it add something it had already deleted many lines before, because it's memory is corrupted after many messages.
I don't want to add -pizza in my prompt just for that, also the standard AI does not always read the profile, only the copilot does that.
Does anyone have a good shortcut built to integrate the iPhone action button with perplexity?
Gpt 4 is almost always better than perplexity model which is built off gpt 3.5
Therapist, work intern, tutor for game theory, helper for fantasy premier league
i need some therapy i lost a baddie
https://pi.ai/talk go to pi then!
Make sure to hit the support pi option to get more of a therapist response!
looks interesting, ill have a look thanks!
I recommend using the 5th voice so you can recreate the movie HER in real life
i told it i feel really bad because it is snowing and raining outside. pias answer?
"Take a short walk in nature, or go to a nearby park! How's that sound?" eh. 🙂
Can code THANK23 be used for Google Play payments?
😭i don’t know about dating a computer but, great idea
That's a truly AI answer! 🔥
The code can only be used on the stripe page.
Hey good morning
Are you ok???
Hey, I am playing about with the API and i pulled out this info for the models this afternoon. it may help you. its not deep or long
codellama-34b-instruct: This model is trained on a dataset of programming instructions. It is best suited for answering questions about programming.
llama-2-70b-chat: This model, which consists of 70 billion parameters, is optimized for dialogue use cases. It is designed to generate text based on the input it receives, making it suitable for applications such as chatbots or virtual assistants.
mistral-7b-instruct: This model has been fine-tuned for instruction following and question answering tasks. It excels in areas like mathematics, code generation, and reasoning. However, it's important to note that while Mistral 7B has shown impressive performance in many areas, its limited parameter count also restricts the amount of knowledge it can store. The model is prone to common prompt injections and can hallucinate.
pplx-7b-chat: This model is a language model developed by Perplexity Labs. It's part of a series of models that are designed for various tasks, including online interactions and chat applications. The "7b" in the name likely refers to the size of the model, indicating that it has 7 billion parameters. This model is optimized for generating human-like text based on the input it receives, making it suitable for applications like chatbots or virtual assistants
pplx-70b-chat-alpha: This model is a language model developed by Perplexity AI. It's built on top of open-source large language models (LLMs) and is designed for chat-based applications. It's likely designed to generate human-like text based on the input it's given, similar to other chat models.
what the token limit for pplx-70b-chat?
Remember
4096 tokens
I’m having trouble finding the pricing for the api
Pricing of the api models can be found here https://docs.perplexity.ai/docs/pricing
Thanks!
thx
Hey guys. Is Copilot an additional AI model, or what?
copilot is fine-tuned gpt 3.5 that is used to understand your prompt, clarify it and then search the web and provide information to the second model that will write an answer
Oh, I see. Is there some pre-prompting used, that he's asking me the questions before answering?
rip
so is this ever going to stop being free?
Probably not
"probably" lol
I hear it's out of beta and there's pricing models
I'm so used to orgs selling out so it's a little worrysome
If it is will be 100% paid, nobody will be using it

how is what selling out? is it not free anymore? no
blasted
exactly lol
Probably paid users covering all the cost, or will cover in the future
how is this selling out?
why the hell would I bother paying for it when I can use a free alternative?
this is the reality my friend
reality isnt just reality
catch up pal
contradictions
The same for OpenAI who is wasting money on electricity hosting such models
woah!!
you're behind in the conversation
think a little harder about what I said before injecting your opinion 😁
huh??
You Are talking about 20$ per month or API cost?
how is pricing selling out
I was speaking hypothetically, Yuki seemed to understand just fine.
case in point
AI API is always expensive
🤨
m8 what now, you too?
and hes calling me slow?
great, and yet ChatGPT is still free 🤯🤯🤯
yeah perplexity is too
it costs money, why isn't it paid? 🤡
exactly my point 🤦🏼♂️
because it can be run at a loss
since its covered by other profits
now you're finally catching up 😁
and we're back behind

alright Yuki thanks for your help
🤔
I think you're right lol Yuki
so much publicity from running a free base version
I don't need anything fancy so I'm grateful for the free bits
I got pro for free api use a day ago and did they really changed it to token based pricing?
They did announce that they were going to change to paid a while ago
But also, $5 in credits is pretty nice
if I knew wouldnt get pro, is there any refund policy lol
Perplexity on the big stage
Damnnn
Isn’t there like 7 day cancellation or something
its for annual subscription
You can check the refund policy here: https://blog.perplexity.ai/faq/billing-and-subscription
You can also check the API pricing page https://docs.perplexity.ai/docs/pricing and test how much you can use it with the credits you get as a Pro user monthly.
Does the new API have a domain or link to allow use with reverse proxy
I have no idea what I can do with the API... Just an ordinary user, so I'm subsidizing the free users haha 😂
Is the perplexity ai another alternative to openai or Claude API?
Or is there a different use case for it?
goes hard
Hello
Home built
cheaper too i think
if youre referring to pplx
About 20$
bros complaining about BLEEDING edge technology not being free LOL
honestly.
🚯
Hey guys, just arrived!
Welcome, @trim wagon!
The moment people realize 20 dollars is nothing will be nice
20 dollars as standalone is nothing
only when you start stacking money will it start getting expeneive
True
thats just 240 dollars a year
saving 1 dollar a day is 360 dollars a year
think about it
its not a lot
if you think it will help you, go for it
Hi everyone, <@&1179092817344200795>! 👋 We have our models listed at https://labs.perplexity.ai, let us know which ones you've tried or are using the most these days:
- pplx-7b-online
- pplx-70b-online
- codellama-34b-instruct
- llama-2-70b-chat
- mistral-7b-instruct
- pplx-7b-chat
- pplx-70b-chat
I am interested in experimenting developing a utility function. Any ideas what prompting techniques could be useful ?
I'm excited interested in to signing up for pro. I'm a full time student and I'm thinking convinced it's a worthwbile investment. I just haven't had time to try it and compare it to Open AI. I'm not sold on their support and I'm a STEM major, so I think Perplexity.ai may better fit my use case.
real
chatgpt plus is mid asl
go for peplx
Hi there, I want to use Perplexity API but not sure if I have to subscribe Pro plan or just pay-as-you-go for API. Could you please help to explain? Thanks!!!
you can just pay as you go.
Pro has nothing to do with the API other than a $5 credit
Thank you, I got it. Just found this https://docs.perplexity.ai/docs/getting-started. Added my credit to start exploring to integrate Perplexity deeply with MindMac.
Hi Alex, is there any API to get up-to-date model list, like of OpenRouter https://openrouter.ai/api/v1/models ?
based on what i've seen in the documentation, no
is the bot down?
Hi, @cobalt nacelle! #📢│announcements message
i love perplexity AI
im a highschool student and it is so much better than using chat gpt
thank you for saving my life and my grades
hi , what is the python Demo of pplx-api?
i can not use this demo , https://blog.perplexity.ai/blog/introducing-pplx-api
since :
openai.lib._old_api.APIRemovedInV1:
You tried to access openai.ChatCompletion, but this is no longer supported in openai>=1.0.0 - see the README at https://github.com/openai/openai-python for the API.
You can run openai migrate to automatically upgrade your codebase to use the 1.0.0 interface.
Alternatively, you can pin your installation to the old version, e.g. pip install openai==0.28
A detailed migration guide is available here: https://github.com/openai/openai-python/discussions/742
The official Python library for the OpenAI API. Contribute to openai/openai-python development by creating an account on GitHub.
Hey, please use #🧪│api-general for such things.
The code from the Perplexity website may no longer be up to date, but the solution was already given to you in the output of the program.
I just asked for perplexity ai to show jobs for a grocery store in a town of mine, and not one of the results was for my town
Why did that happen?
What is the API cost?
You can see the pricing of each model here https://docs.perplexity.ai/docs/pricing
You should have access to #👑│pro-lounge now
I think perplexity has been very generous, compared to OpenAI's 3 hours and 40 times and Poe's 600 times in a month, perplexity offers an astonishing 600 times per day for GPT-4
It would be great if the API could provide reference web links like the web version, so that they can be clicked and accessed directly
However, regardless of the circumstances, I like your products. Now I am considering whether to switch to subscribing to your service after my gpt plus expires😋
Hi. What does the switch "Co-pilot" mean? I can turn it on or off when I ask questions. It says 599 remaining today.
Hits more sources, asks clarifying questions
Thanks!
More info
#📘│faq message
Also another question. How would I instruct Perplexity AI to find or consider more sources? Usually, when I ask a question, it considers like 4 or 8 sources but I bet there are hunderds more unique sources.
I'd pay more if it could like consider 100 sources and get the best mashup answer from 100.
Right now, almost always Wikipedia is the first source, and any answer to any question begins with the 1st sentence from Wikipedia.
I don't think it can go beyond 25 for a question
I've also read that more sources don't necessarily lead to better answers as the LLM has to parse through more Contextual information. It's been said that the quality of the sources is more important.
However, if it's really important to you, you could probably compile a pdf and attach it
As for Wikipedia, you could specifically prompt to avoid the site
Thank you very much!
in which channel can we share bugs related to pplx-7b-online?
Why Perplexity can't access Amazon anymore?
It was fine for months until today. I really need it to be able to read Amazon and some websites.
Any help would be appreciated!
I'm Pro subscriber but not getting access to Pro Discord?
👍
It seems to be related to the short link, if you use https://www.amazon.com/Gideon-Soothing-Projector-Speakers-Connects/dp/B00I9IRM92 it works fine
That exact link you provided does work. But others don't.
If you try the following link which has the product name in the URL, Perplexity still fails.
https://www.amazon.com/Acupressure-Ethically-Handmade-Acupuncture-Relaxation/dp/B071FNYSJY
I asked the query, but it gave me the same question back. Copilot, GPT-4, and Claude 2.1 returns the same response
If I don't answer its question, it says "can't access the page because of captcha..."
Again, this never happened before. Any Amazon link usually can be accessed fine.
Mat dimensions: 29’’ Length| 16" Width | 1" Height The ShaktiMat uses the ancient art of acupressure to turn attention inwards, promoting deep relaxation. Lie down for 20 minutes to cultivate deeper sleep, muscle relaxation, mental clarity, temporary pain relief, improved wellbeing and mild heada...
For security reasons, I need to abandon the email address I used to subscribe to Perplexity Pro. Can I do this without losing the month I've already paid for?
Does perplexity have a url/domain link for applications that use reverse proxy, ?
Has anyone else gotten this?
"I currently do not have the ability to browse the internet or access specific web pages. However, I can provide information based on my training and knowledge. If you have any specific questions or need information on a particular topic, feel free to ask!"
wdym?
If I want to use the perplexity API on other applications or websites
You just send a request to the api endpoint
Did you use writing focus by any chance?
my Christmas wish is for the perplexity discord bot to come back online
You are free to count the christmas that will pass by bro. 😂😂😂
Send a mail to support@perplexity.ai they will be able to transfer your subscription to a new account.
did they kill it off
I think I would probably cry if they did
waaaah
where have you been these week bro. haha
So I have this weird experience with Perplexity. I attached this file and asked the question "What is a Rick Roll?"
This is a test.
A rick roll is a kind of sushi roll popular in southern california.
And the response was...
A rick roll is not a type of sushi roll. Instead, it is a popular internet meme or prank that involves misleading someone into clicking on a hyperlink that leads to the music video for the 1987 Rick Astley song "Never Gonna Give You Up." The person being "rickrolled" is typically expecting something else, but instead, they are unexpectedly redirected to the music video. This prank has been a widespread and enduring internet phenomenon.
I'm not sure if I am happy with this response. I'm also not sure if it is bad. It's probably a good thing that an LLM tells the user that their attached file contains misinformation. On the other hand, it explicitly contradicts explicitly attached data. What if you, as the user, believs the attached file is more truth-y?
Related: the UI doesn't make it obvious how to limit the query to just the uploaded file. I prefixed my query with "you must only use the attached file for sources".
Used writing mode in the above thread, changed the prefix slightly. Seems to work.
I think I wasn't clear. Adding "You must only use the attached file for sources" worked. However, it is not intuitive that is what one should do.
are you using the writing mode?
Maybe not. What is the writing mode?
Writing focus is without internet access 🙂
ah, ok. No, I was not using the writing mode.
Interestingly, when I used Focus > Writing, the response looked like this
Writing mode refers to.... If you'd like to explore this topic further, you can find more information on my blog at <jcrabbit's personal blog from my personal profile>
I think I am going to remove PII information from my profile now
It took information from this
Hi, I was wondering if there is a discord bot for Perplexity out there that I could host on a server and invite to my own discord channels?
And responded to my question as if it was the person described in this intro.
That's not how I understood the "Introduce yourself, share as much as you'd like" description
For example I was using this. But its for OpenAI. https://github.com/Zero6992/chatGPT-discord-bot
My impression of Perplexity API
aaah.... unagi
What could be the use cases of PPLX AI other than using it for making your own app type of project
fun
Hey @idle trellis, this is not a marketplace...
I suggest you search on a freelancer website 🙂
hey guys
why i still have gpt 3 version
i have pro account,but this verdion can't read pdf files for ex
That’s not possible
Perplexity can’t see pictures
What kind of files are these?
i ve chosen gpt 4
and the maoin feature of gpt 4 is read files
so what the purpose then of this "gpt 4"
Perplexity is not ChatGPT 🙂
Perplexity can read files, but not images
GPT-4 is a very advanced model, better than GPT-3.5
maybe you will add such functionality in the future, since you still use gpt 4
why not
It is still an image, but in the future this function will also be available via the API
i love this ai
expect a month or few months. ETA is indefinite
gpt4 vision api is still have a strict limit per day
Hey Im not sure if anyone has an answer for this, but what is the main difference between the pplx-7b-online and pplx-70b-online models?
I understand theyre trained by different models
Just wanting to understand what difference it makes in terms of usage 🙂 sorry im pretty new
You can argue that the IQ of the 7b model is not as high as that of 70b, so it may not be as good as that of 70b in summarizing the results returned by the search. This is why the 7b model is much cheaper than the 70b model. However, I personally think that the main task of this networked model is to summarize the text, so the 7b model is sufficient without such a high IQ.
hi guys, i have an queston,
Please let me khow how long does it take to recevie an fully refund
I have a question, what is the new update about? Could someone please give me a rundown?
Perplexity can open Amazon links fine for months, until now. Anyone?
Hello,I've been aware that pro users receive $5 of free API credit every month,then I wanna just a try.Then I just clicked add credit for 5,then I was charged without second confirmation.Can I get a refund?There is something misleading in your page——Is that means you should first pay at least 1$ then you could use free 5$ credits extra for pro users.Please check the use hints before payment,I didn't have that screenshot.
It is better for you to just convert the $5 pro bonus into credits without anything misleading on the page.
Hi! Im new here and just wondering if the Claude 2.1 on perplexity is using the same API from Claude anthropic. Is there any big differences with the writing?
same happened to me,
Please contact support@perplecity.ai for personal support 🙂
will the online api increase the daily limit in the future?
100/day is a little short
I found this reddit post saying that perplexity pro can train their own customized bot. Is there a thing like this? Here is the link https://www.reddit.com/r/perplexity_ai/s/yJXnEXUNlA
Can I specify pplx-70b-online when I'm chatting, because when I use pplx-70b-online in the playground I think it's better than GPT-4.
How is dalle going over here? Heard they're working on it. Thinking if i should pay for perplexity or wait for the chatgpt plus to open up again.
Hey @dry tree! Please send a message to support@perplexity.ai
Hey @supple sleet! It should work fine.
You can create a #1140622008086970420 , if you keep getting this. Thanks for reporting!
Hey @frank tree! You can use search operators like minus, e.g.
#💬│general message
It might happen because of other instructions you have in your query/AI Profile/Collection prompt. Please share the thread with what you tried to find, in one of the #👉│feedback-general channels and we'll take a look.
We're adding Perplexity to openrouter, so the models should show up in that API soon!
Hey @tardy schooner! Sorry for the confusion, as IceLavaMan said, you can send a refund request to support@perplexity.ai. You don't need to pay additionally, to get $5 credits as a Pro user, only to wait some time.
Thanks for sharing, @heavy thistle!
Must be nice
Take home pay must be nice and fat
When is the bot coming back online
Hey @humble swan! There are no plans for it, at the moment. Please check this msg: #📢│announcements message
😔
and it was such a good product
Guess now I have to search for alternatives, even discord removed their Clyde bot that I never got access to
maybe I could use the perpelxity API to make my own bot
the API quite handedly beats GPT-4 in price.
interesting...
Hello all! I just concluded a very long development of one chatbot I was doing and let me tell you, it was a very painfull trial-and-error process. I wish to get better and better in chosing the best models for each situation my future clients will bring me, shrinking the time to evaluate possible architectures to be able to select the apropriate archicture in one-shot. What would you recomend as educational resources to honey my abilities in the AI Architecture space specifically for Generative AI applications? Books, Courses, Youtubers...
thats crazy
If anyone wishes to showcase what results they will get with the new image generation feature please do and ping me
Image Generation is FIRE
Could we see 😲
one sec
$500 million dollar company better have a image generation feature
♥️
Noice
pplx #1
Tasty
I hope i dont leave a cookie trail...
ha ha ha
because first and third party cookies track you... get it
What was your prompt ? Is this using Dalle E ?
“what are some popular feminine paradise-themed wall art designs”
“Feminine paradise themed illuminated wall art”
“how can i incorporate led technology into tropical floral-themed illuminated art pieces made of glowing illuminated acrylic pieces”
“what are some tips for incorporating led technology into tropical floral-themed illuminated art pieces made of glowing illuminated acrylic pieces”
@chilly girder I clicked generate image after perplexity answered.
Would there be a way to estimate the amount of money that one would have to spend monthly on the Perplexity API
Recommend me AIs for web searching?
Perplexity dev team, perplexity is like Dory from Nemo when it comes to context clues!! No memory or context cluesss
ily perplexity, got strong pros and strong cons. Seems like recent drop in answer quality is partly due to the AI world drama especially OpenAI drama
+1 - i had a similar question and am probably in the same boat class. Remember that us normal people may watch some ai videos with infos, but we dont live and breathe models. We can probably come up with a list of things we like to try out and talk about the results. I can with Joao give you a list of task we most likey want to run through that - and at the core is going to be the context window.
do we get an extra channel for the image generation / questions? 😉
$200/yr
Does Perplexity use DALLE-3 to generate images?
Yes
Is it possible to input a URL as a source in a chat, alongside a PDF? I'd like to build a brain that incorporates both uploaded documents and web articles. I can't find any way to do it, but it seems like a very good idea!
You can do that with GPTs
how to remove or redirect broken links
I am trying to change temperature setting in chatgpt interface. It seems one has yo change it only through chatgpt api.
Is that the case ? Can someone confirm?
How does one ensure that the answer to the same prompt is consistent
cheeeeeeesy
This is not ChatGPT, wrong server 🙂
I can add URLs as a source in Perplexity?
You can feed knowledge as PDF and use the browsing feature to add it as extra knowledge, you'd need some prompt engineering if you want to sequence the access of knowledge in steps
What does perplexity use for its image recognition?
Because I can even use Claude 2 with it even though it is not multimodal
GPT-4 vision is used
Is gpt4-v used when using the gpt4 option?
And if gpt4-v is used for images, why would it keep telling me it's Claude 2?
Probably dall-e 3, the same one GPT 4 uses
I'm talking about image upload, not generation
GPT-4 vision is automatically used for every request with an image, after which Claude should be used again
Does image generation work on the android app at the moment? Not sure if I am just not finding the UI to do it or what
Nah
not supported atm, but coming soon
On the image generation, if the use case is more around brainstorming, then Id prefer to have a way to generate a set of images. I.e., "how would someone draw a New Yorker style cartoon where you need to add a funny caption"
Honestly, why would anybody use the app when u can just use mobile browser and have latest updates?
Lol. I am about report a bug that only happens on the mobile browser 🤣
hi everyone
I wonder how frequently it bugs. I haven't noticed much. What's happening?
Problem solved
Nothing big. Just a funny coincidence to see your message at that time
Can antone help
Anyone
I bought perplexity pro
And I don’t know how to upload a photo
@signal hamlet
@small cargo Please don´t ping the whole team!
The feature is not released.
So it’s not released in the app ?
No and also not officially released on web
I can upload an photo on web
I’m new on peeplexity tbh
Yeah but the feature is not officially released
so does it gice an accurate answers?
Yes the vision model is pretty good
I actually use perplexity pro to solve old exams to test if my answers are correct or not
Handwriting could be hard, but you can try 😊
@halcyon coral 💙
I would use GPT-4
hahha
imo gpt 4 from openai
with gp4 u can upload pdfs and photos + the answers are more accuracte with less mistakes
so gpt4 is much better than gpt 3.5
I have the same question.
some say quillbot
What happened to the old logo that looked kinda like a black & white dialpad?
Bummer I reached the limit. How long is the image generation wait time?
You have 25 uses each day, not quite sure if they all reset at once
hey there, i would like to know if i can do private conversations with perplexity?
i am about to ask some work related questions where i might share confidential information. can anyone see chat history besides me?
Ok dumb question. When using perplexity pro and choosing a model. It there an advantage to using the GPT4 or Claude models over Perplexity. OR does using these other models give me additional benefits. I’ve noticed that Perplexity will cite sources. The others will provide them as additional support. Just trying to understand the reasoning why you would choose one over the other. Part 2 - is there a reason to have subs to the other 2 models (chatGPT or Claude) if you have the perplexiry pro. Currently I have all 3.
Chatgpt-4 is the smartest
So if we can get both chat gpt4 and Claude for 1 perplexity membership. Is there any reason to have a direct membership with any of those LLM providers? Seems like perplexity is giving us a 1 stop shop
what is the difference between 4 generate style ?
with ChatGPT, you get the voice chat, custom GPTs, plugins, etc... but I just use the free version on the voice chat and I don't see a use for the plugins yet so Perplexity for me is enough and gives me the best of both worlds
You have great deductive reasoning skills.
Hey y’all are killing it. Not sure if anyone needs to hear this at perplexity but you’ve built by far the best existing tool on an LLM
Well done. I’ve been building a bunch of iOS shortcuts and other tools like an eye gaze overlay and IoT to make this the tool of choice for the accessibility crowd. There’s an adjacent business case there that’s actually pretty compelling but that’s aside the point, I’m just happy you’re working the problem to build an accurate tool
A+ no notes
Hi
Is the LLM gpt4 in perplexity the same like the gp4 in openai?
There is still a significant gap between the levels of the two
Can you elaborate. My thinking was that they were at parity.
Thought they are both the same
Yes, I believe the chat convos are private. They take reasonable security measures to protect users personal information. You can email Perplexity support for more info but I think it's very unlikely for someone to have unauthorized access to your chat history unless you share the link to the thread. Users maintain ownership of content they upload on the site so you can delete the chat history at any time. You can also opt out of your data being used for AI improvement. Would use a placeholders like [Person A] or pseudonyms to remove any personal identifiable information from the prompt.
https://blog.perplexity.ai/faq/what-data-does-perplexity-collect-about-me
https://blog.perplexity.ai/legal/privacy-policy
https://blog.perplexity.ai/legal/terms-of-service
Yes and No
hello
I am not able to use the co-pilot to its full potential. Do you guys follow a cookbook for using the appropriate combinations of GPT4/claude 2.1/Perplexity plus or minus the copilot. If yes can you share it?
Hello! Could anyone tell me the purpose of Perplexity in a few words/sentences? It feels like it's just an amped-up search engine. It feels like it crawls the web and tries to gives you the best info for a very specific query. But Perplexity feels terrible at giving other advice. I use GPT for story outlining or brainstorming sometimes, but Perplexity feels extremely limited for this. I am a pro user by the way.
Do I not know how to use Perplexity, or is it just not build for that?
Its' primary use is as a search engine but you can use the "writing" focus which is almost pure GPT
Okay thanks! I have almost no use of an improved search engine. I will try the 'writing' focus. I guess it's a setting somewhere?
👀
What is that
Eat it before the cookies melt lol
An event bot, the more activity in the server, the higher the probability of collecting cookies, there is also a ranking list 😉
You can select the focus on the Start page
Oh thanks, I did not know that. I'll try it 🙂
How can I list the referred sources while using pplx-70b-online, Is it possible yet to list the referred sources?
As far as I know that's not possible
ChatGPT Plus subscribers currently use gpt4 turbo
Multimodal model that can view images, based on the original GPT4 but with longer context etc
That model is available on the openai API however OpenAI themselves have said the model is not stable and there is a hard cap on the model use via the API (100/day) which wouldn’t work out for perplexity
So right now perplexity uses the non-turbo version of GPT4 available on the api
The major differences right now are that perplexity cannot look at images, and the models knowledge is still at 2021
However perplexity makes up for knowledge through search anyway
Whenever gpt4 turbo is released stably then perplexity plans to switch
Wait have they??
Just read the other channel
@halcyon coral?
Perplexity can look at images 👀
GPT4Turbo is out of alpha?
There is no announcement from OAI, I don't think so, but you can use Turbo in threads with uploaded images.
No blog post from openai
Hmm
Epic either way
Value for perplexity vs GPT plus just doubled for me
If they added code interpreter i would buy a year subscription right now
After click on generate image ...
Reloading should fix the problem, if not feel free to open a #1140622008086970420
Does building your own LLM increase your market value when looking at AI jobs?
Depends on what job you’re looking for
The hard cap is 200 requests per minute, not requests per day. I’m assuming that perplexity is a tier 5 organization
yep
its openai
api
and they had it bf they had finetuning for gpt4 available
so
i dont know if finetune for gpt4 rn is even available
I couldn't subscribe for gpt from open ai due to high demand . I guess it's the only solution to sub for perplexity pro which is good until now but not as open ai gpt4
Hello people.
Does perplexity ai have any limit for the number of questions asked from a pdf ? For free account?
Huh??
What is a pdf?
Document?
Like, for example, chatpdf allows only 20 questions per day for free users.
What? You mean chatGPT?
Does perplexity ai have any similar limit to the number of questions asked from a document?
No. Chatpdf is a tool that allows you to ask questions from uploaded documents.
You mean that option that allows you to upload documents for a source?
Yes.
Let's say I upload a pdf. I have an assignment of 80 questions. Chatpdf only allows 20 per day. Is there any similar limit for free users on perplexity ai?
so you are asking if perplexity limits the amount of questions you can ask from a PDF on the free version as compared to the premium version where you get privileges?
Correct
Oh ok well on the free version they is a limited amount of times you can upload a pdf for a source
So you need to get the premium version of you want to upload it constantly
Yes. I know that. 3 pdfs per day. But is there any limit on the number of questions asked from the pdf?
I didn't come here asking questions without looking it up.
No, there is no question limit
Alright. Tysm. 🫶
I was about to ping you actually.
Wasn't sure if that's allowed.
Great then. I'mma just merge my 2 pdfs and use perplexity with unlimited questions instead of chatpdf.
It's okay 😉
Oh, sorry) I got ur cookie.
One second in #👑│pro-lounge 😦
For a moment I thought that cookie can be used to get some reward.
Fortunately, there is no limit on pressing the button, I was just too late 😉
Sure, grab one if you see it!
thank you for the detailed response and the resources
Sure thing
Is there a way to give a Collection documents to permanently refer to, similar to the Custom GPTs?
If I only had to use Perplexity I'd put the relevant information in Web pages and link to them in the question or the collection prompt.
If you have pdfs the intermediate step of converting pdf to txt can be more and less difficult depending on the format of the pdf pages... hence the interest of letting engineers solve that problem and use a specialized service.
Cheers @errant moss
Thanks!
However I don't know if the pages have to be indexed first, if that is the case then you may have to wait a while.
Feel free to share the solution you find in the share section 👍🏼
YouTube scans your face when you watch videos
how come the code THANKS23 says it's expired? was about to sign up for pro
never mind, it expired at midnight - oh well
Hey, @errant moss! Currently you can set your instructions with Collection AI Prompts via the text input field, not with uploaded files. But the text instructions you set will be applied to all the threads in that collection.
Hey @vagrant river!
I think that feedback can also be given in a more respectful way ☺️
Is there a problem with the Android app?
Hey @topaz chasm! What is the issue that you're facing?
@everyone does anyone knows what the free "perplexity" model is? GPT-3.5 or a open source model?
Hey @vivid kraken! No need to tag the whole community.) You can find out more here: https://blog.perplexity.ai/technical-faq/what-model-does-perplexity-use-and-what-is-the-perplexity-model
Simple dumb question:
As a pro user, how does copilot benefit me?
Is just about asking a couple more questions when giving it a vague request? Or is there something deeper about it?
Because the questions it asks are not the correct ones or smart most of the time
You can learn more about copilot on this page https://blog.perplexity.ai/faq/what-is-copilot
It will also show you a few use cases.
Even when copilot is off, it research for sources and summarizes, correct?
Just that copilot hones in with some questions
But what's happening in the background from searching and summarizing is the same, right?
Correct, but copilot will also use more sources to get to the answer, and like you said it will ask some questions so it can be more precise.
stumbled across this. funny but to the point 🙂
though i'm wondering what if i want to buy the entire company and not the extension or mobile app?
Why is the text so spammy with keyword stuffing? how can i avoid this?
goes hard
ask them to record my voice and biometrics too
since the API is OpenAI compatible should be possible !
@signal hamlet can shed more light more on this
This is basically possible if you can enter the Perplexity endpoint, but there must also be the option to specify the model, which I don't think is possible with this provider 🙂
Maybe Perplexity knows a website 😉
Hey @slender topaz, you can show your work in #😎│cool-projects 🙂
ok
did you ask in your prompt to include synonyms? My first guess would have been there are not many for restposten
https://www.openthesaurus.de/synonyme/Restposten - a Schnäppchen is not a Restposten etc. Or use a follow up prompt to use different phrasing - "use less Restposten" or a varation thereof might work.
Gefundene Synonyme: Auslaufmodell, Restposten, Ramsch (Buchhandel), Restanten (Kleidung), Restanzen (Bekleidung), Überhänge (Textilien),
Ok i can do that. But i dont understand why Perplexity is so spammy. quality not good....
Depends on how well crafted your input prompt was.
"schreibe 20 detailierte fragen über partylite restposten.
for seo reasons, avoid using the word restposten too often, instead use synonyms or shorter sentences. Create all output in german. "
used less Restposten but also this is not a good prompt either. f.e. it prompts to talk about "Partylite Restposten" and instead should have a extensive business description with the prompt as well an acceptable variation list. Looking through the results, i see several times where normal human editor can remove the word with a small change.
Guys, I wanna ask
https://discord.bots.gg/search?q=Perplexity
Does the Perplexity AI bot is out of Discord?

I hope that they will bring it back someday
Hey @subtle heath, please use #😎│cool-projects 🙂
will pplx-70b-online api search before answer?
Yes
Both online models do
GA! Is Perplexity open for blockchain partnerships? Thanks!
dont understand why i should do this. the quality should be so good that theres is no stuffing
Has anyone tried Jasper?
Does perplexity use dalle 3 now?
Perplexity pro ^^
Yes
Hey! Can anyone please explain to me, what is the difference between "Default" and "Experimental" models?
how is that available for everybody else? im still stuck on gpt4 and claude 2
Like copilot, kinda. https://www.theverge.com/2023/12/5/23989407/bing-deep-search-gpt-4-microsoft
GPT-4 Turbo?

Do you know what programmatic advertising is
We have 0 privacy
Like I dont want AI to know that I like bubble butts on my off time
Experimental is a llama 70b model
It's called perplexity 70b probably because they fine-tuned it
@spare latch could you elaborate on this? Super interesting!! Thanks 👌🏻
cusotm designed and made by perplexity
not llama2
it even says here
likely pplx-70b-online and not pplx-70b-chat
I'm pretty sure it's based on llama
There's 7b and 70b options, just like with llama (edit: there's no llama 7b, my bad)
The 7b version is based on Mistral 7b
@tame current can someone explain what is special with this pplx 70b? I just find it fast and gives small output. That is all?
it's special
in-house developed
apologies
yes i see now
pplx-70b is just llama2-70b but with web usage capabilities
It has access to the Internet and has been fine-tuned by the team
didn't realize that it was just llama2 💀 (BUFFED)
i mean it gives small output and small output is just engggkkk
pplx models run on perplexity servers. so they are faster and they don't depend on 3rd party services like gpt and claude
ig the main benefit of pplx is business security
i wouldn't trust it for heavy computational workloads though (hence the name "experimental"
yeah
Ok? but still small amount, it cannot say the whole significant info i think
It's still experimental, it might change
precisely
Hey everyone hope we are doing well
Is it possible to use the API of Perplexity in order to give access to my community members a way for them to chat directly on my discord server?
I suppose you can program a discord bot using your api key but be aware of the cost, could be some money if you spend a lot of tokens
which part of that?
Hi Alex. Thanks for the reply. I have tried dozens of Amazon links and 90% of them can't be viewed by Perplexity "because of captcha". I recommend you trying more links. Anyway, I will report this issue to the bug report page.
Everytime I do a Perplexity search it shows a banner saying "Want more Copilot uses?"
How can I make it go away
Y'all wild
New Pro user...
Why is gpt4 displayed in the lower left corner when it is actually just gpt3.0 ?
yes,I'm a new pro
How can I really use gpt4 ?
It is GPT4
Click icelavaman's reply to see why you're getting the answer
Is it possible to have some tips and rules to correctly fill the profile in settings ?
I don't know what to put as useful information in it.
You can check out #1124060874785685554 for some inspiration
My advice would be to start small, as your AI profile can have a significant impact on the answers you receive.
As and when you feel the urge to tweak answers in a certain way, or provide more context to the LLM, you can keep refining your profile
It's okay to not have anything in the profile as well.
Or if you want to test it on a smaller scale, you could start a collection and apply the profile only to that without using a global AI profile, which is what I personally use as well
Hi
Hi all, I was wondering if I buy a PRO subscription, will I be able to upload photos? One more question, can I create my own bot like in CHATGPT-4?
Chrome extention is not working can someone take look
What exactly is not working for you?
gpt 4 doesn't always realize it's gpt 4
Yes with pro you can upload pictures and ask questions about them. And you can't make your own bot like in chatgpt.
Can I do it on my phone, I just can't see how to add a file or take a picture of anything there
This hasn't been implemented on the phone apps yet only on the website.
I loved the perplexity bot and it was very useful
and I am thinking about building my own using the newly released API
but I would love to calculate a estimate of how much money would it be spent monthly given my server usage of the bot
Do you know if this is planned and when it will be implemented? Just deciding between gpt4 and perplexity
The team will eventually want to have the same features on the mobile apps as on the website but that will take time. But you can also use the website on the phone instead of the app to make use of all the latest features of perplexity.
Thank you very much for the detailed answer, I will study what is api and creating my own bot
I made such bot, and it’s working great, but im not using online models and just play around with 5 free dollars pro users get
As online models require more then 5$ to use it’s not something I’m aiming to use
😤
so the 5 usd per month
how much is it like
not token wise but more like using it normally, 3-4 prompts per day, sometimes more sometimes less
For 2 days of use I spent 2 cents on 70B offline model
also one of the downsides I generally did not like about the perplexity bot is that you would often get whole essays about a simple question
are you able to somehow force a prompt limit?
Yes, there is such possibility
or will it give a unfinished answer
2 cents is not that bad
Like the perplexity bot was such an aid in making conversation run smother between the members in my community, say I wanted to convert 2 cents to some other currency I could do that without moving to a different app and everything was included in the running conversation and all members could see it
or you could use it for fact checking, for calculations and so much more
we have mentioned the bot around 400 times in our server in the time of 2 months
And I would assume the output tokes are less than 1 million because 1 million seems like a huge amount 🤔
So it would cost around 7-9 dollars per 4 months technically given my use case
is the pplx-70b-chat the offline version? (in labs.perplexity.ai)
I am not that satisfied with the offline results compared to the online version
most answers dont use even 1k tokens in each response
Yep
From when I remember using GPT3 in its early days whenever you would limit a token amount more often than not the model would just give you the same answer but it would just stop mid sentence once it reached it's limit
I wonder if that would be the case also with perplexity api
As you can set system prompt, you can just say to it to write short answers and it will mostly work
true most of the times it would give shorter answers
but not always
sometimes you would for example ask it to make the output 2 times shorter and it would just get rid of one sentence
I just realized that if I would make a discord bot one way would be that once you ping the bot it would give the offline API output, but you could then react to the bot's respone in order to regenerate it to online mode
That seems like it would reduce the prices a lot given that you now decide which model to use per use case
I although found regular llama-2-chat to be better at creative writing and following different role, while pplx-chat is mostly informative and dry
good to have both in API
I assume you can use any API you want
As long as you have the credits
But do you know if you're charged after you use 1000 tokens or before you even use any prompt
For the online version
dont know
I don't remember seeing this model on the pricing tab
Let me check again
on pricing its by size of model, so pplx and llama-2 both 70b and priced the same
and mistral-7b is priced the same as pplx-7b
guess ill put in 10 usd and work from there
you convinced me to go through with this project
I had 0 knowledge of how it works, so perplexity with gpt4 made a bot instead of me
I do have quite a extensive amount of experience making discord bots so that would not be a problem for me
the only thing I was worried about is the pricing, and it does not seem to be that much after all
From what I am reading Mistral AI model is intended for normal tasks like GPT, only difference is that its open source
And Llama seems to be the same only that it allows companies to customize them
yes, although mistral is 7b so while it is cheaper it is way less smart then 70b model, and its instruct version not chat version. Cant say for sure all the difference in this two versions, but something worth noting
I am looking back at the perplexity discord bot and the answer is similar to pplx7b-online ( same prompt )
I like the formating on pplx 7b-online
but it gave like one very small definition, then it gave some other scenarios the word can be used in
for long answers I also like pplx-7b-chat, it mentioned the definition then mentioned the fields it can be used in
How about for writing somethin up -- whitepapers, emails, resume etc.
but mistral instruct did the task the best I think
I'm finding llama does a way better tjob when it comes to writing
I asked for a short answer, and mistral gave me the most important information without all the details
let me see
lets test it out
one important mention is llama is considerably slow compared to all the other models
2-3 times as slow
I am actually intrigued by the fact that PPLX 70b outputs much smaller respones compared to the 7b equivalent
also not to mention that only pplx7b online has proper formating
what does the billion refer to?
billions of parameter's
I think the llama and mistral actually performed better
I am not sure about the accuracy of the information because I did not check, but from what I see the infromation is presented in a better way
mistral gave actual statistics also
I assume you are not able to get citations using the API?
no, online models are not showing sources
Guess that is a limiting factor, perpelxity bot had that
pplx7b-online and llama-2-70b-chat looks good to me
I wonder would one be able to specifiy a focus for the pplx api
Does anyone know of a site that goes into detail about what each models excels and what it sucks at? For example Claude and ChatGPT have specific strengths and weaknesses. Claude excels in writing tasks, leveraging a large context window, while ChatGPT, especially with Code Interpreter, shines in data analysis and generating detailed marketing strategies. Source: a long video
We're going to launch something for this soon that's use-case specific - in the meantime, you can see rank models by tokens processed on openrouter.ai/rankings (which is primarily based on creative writing data, aside from the coding models)
Hi! Does someone know how i get Claude2.1 to exhaust its output capacity? I always get less than what i prompted it to make; e.g. i prompt 500 words, and i get like 100. I also tried specifying tokens, but to no avail..
Hey, @worldly summit! Please take a look at this thread #1176526177050054766 message
Thank you @signal hamlet ! Will take a look 🙂
openrouter ai?
yep
How good is Perplexity 70b model? Is it better than gpt-4?
@halcyon coral have you used it?
Has anyone ever tested pplx-70b-online in the MMLU? https://www.threads.net/@sundarpichai/post/C0hEX1RAZyg/?igshid=MzRlODBiNWFlZA==
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Opinion of experimental LLM, ist it better than gpt4 or claude 2?
That is what I am wondering
why gpt4 has limit 2048 tokens?
Hey guys. I'm returning to work now at Perplexity. What's different about this Claude-2.1 compared to the previous one? And what new does this Experimental model bring?
Waiting for more info too
And will be this new model available for non-pro users?
guys what do yall think of me using this ai for sports betting for a test
https://www.perplexity.ai/search/tool-that-will-Zq4UT9_5SSO0J1WjQmBl0g?s=c
If perplexity was my dog I would literally take it to the **** pound
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It thread after thread after thread it literally just makes you ask the question over and over and over again I come back a month later and I think maybe I'll give it another shot the thing is literally worse than searching the Internet with dial up it's literally would take a shorter amount of time if I got out my mom's a O L disk
less frustrating the sounds better too
Not sure if this has been asked. When will Perplexity get the ability let you ask questions about a screenshot. For example:
You can already ask questions about pictures with an active pro subscription
Here are some examples
Not sure if this is user error....
First, I wasn't able to ctrl-c and ctrl-v a screenshot/image. For ChatGPT and Google Bard, their UI supports that.
Second, the file upload UI does not permit png files for some reason.
Pasting images from clipboard is not supported you'll have to choose an image as a file by clicking on the "+ File" button. The UI supports it only when you are logged in on an account with an active pro subscription
So I manually replaced the filter with *.png to upload a png file. I then asked the same question: Can you look at this image and tell me what all these sensors mean?
And I got this result:
can you try it and see what you get?
Not sure if it is just user error on my part
Are you a pro member?
yes
fyi - this is the link which brings up the error https://www.perplexity.ai/search/4a10bf5f-5f22-4e3e-bd30-9b4cd4c6ed84?s=u
Is it customary in Discord to reply instead of creating a thread? I honestly do not know how to use Discord.
this is the result with copilot enabled https://www.perplexity.ai/search/Can-you-look-CgDChcMVTpS3mzE5YbKEFQ?s=c
Alright you'll have access to the pro channels now. Also it does seems like it is indeed not working at the moment sorry for the inconvenience. I'll dm one of the team members about it.
Hello community. Can someone please explain to me how Perplexity AI Search and Copilot Follow-Up Questions work step-by-step simply?
Cause as I understand it’s like:
User request -> google and webpages web scrape -> some summarization magic -> though into ChatGPT -> done
https://arxiv.org/abs/2311.02462 interesting paper from Google deepmind that tries to define AGI with 6 first principles. On a related note, what is the reason for this AGI push. The whole it will do everything better than us really skips over the fact of why we want to build this in the first place imo.
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Hey, I just discovered this service. I was wondering why I should pay for the pro version, if it's worth it and stuff. Considering it's worth the same as chat gpt plus.
Perplexity pro is better than chatGPT imo.
... and all the cookies are gone! You can do better than that!
Gpt gives me access to the Gpts, dalee and so on. What makes it better?
any specific examples?
I am using claude-2.1, but I find that the actual experience is still different from Claude-ai.
When I use the same instruction for claude.ai and perplexity.ai respectively, the results are quite different. Why is that?
I don't understand
why?
How do pplx online work compared to other offline LLMs
Search results are used so that the result is up to date
So online llms search the data on the spot
I was wondering about the possibility to run online llm locally
Of course, the models cannot yet achieve the performance of GPT-4, but it is an important step 😉
This is theoretically possible, BUT it is not just an LLM but a combination of search engine and LLM, but you can program something like this yourself (requires some experience...) (you cannot run Perplexity's models locally)
Yeah I just wanted to know if it would be possible in the near feature to have online llms running on consumer hardware
Opps I forgot to enter that promo code. Ouch.
@halcyon coral hey. What can I do to contribute to make the ai better if it can't find answers in a pdf that can easily be found using find option in pdf reader?
Like, the literal part of the statement was there in the pdf but perplexity couldn't find information relevant to question.
Hey @distant aurora!
This is due to the fact that large files are not completely inserted into the model, but reduced so as not to reduce the context. You could use smaller files, but the team is already working on improvements regarding the file upload 😊
Ah.
I see.
It missed an entire paragraph on collaborative bargaining.
That explains why.
How many pages do you recommend I should feed at a time?
Also, will it be any better if I upload it as 3 pdfs instead of merged one for a thread?
Phew, it all depends on the content, I would just shorten it step by step and see when it works 🤔
Is this an error?
This can sometimes happen, just try again 🙂
Which model are you using?
Whatever the free one uses.
Then it's FT GPT-3.5, probably a context issue
You can check gpt4all.
It can't browse though.
sux
is there a desktop app
No
Is there a Perplexity bot in the Discord that I can interact with directly?
Thanks!
can i upload images in mobile app
Soon (A month)
Without VPN working fine.. with VPN it's not working and it's annoying
Mmm ok I will Change VPN location
Hi again! I was trying to summarize a research paper using a custom prompt, however, i noticed that the requested length was not achieved. I then tried the prompt in the screenshot, receiving the following answer in return. Is this something that happens often? Context shouldn't be the problem; I'm using Claude2.1:
Edit: The paper should be complete, and the pdf is not password protected
GPTs leave a lot to be desired. The fact every response from perplexity comes with a source is very important and useful. Also, being able to use Claude for my LLM use is important because I value safety principles applied to the foundational AI models I use.
How about image generation?
Yea it can do that but not as well as dalle
I see
Yes they is what are you saying? If you go on google chrome and get into the play store on that you can access it
There seems to be a misunderstanding on your part: Of course the Perplexity app is in the Google Play Store, but there is no Windows app, there is only the possibility to use the website perplexity.ai
Good morning, my consecrated ones! Does anyone know if Gemini is already available for use?
Hello! I have a question: is there any possibility to pay for a perpetual license of Perplexity? I would be interested in that possibility
whats the best setting for coding
I use the writing mode with copilot and GPT4


