other-games

[sullen crane]

We back

@rapid yoke

https://tenor.com/view/queen-gif-18104025

[rapid yoke]

I like your queen choice better this time

[uneven talon]

What time does the game come out?

[obtuse scroll]

!eanews

[modern gyro]

Early Access Date

<t:1706108400:f>! That's <t:1706108400:R>! This is in your local time zone.

Watch the Early Access Release Trailer!

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[glacial anvil]

That's in 9 Stunden! best denglish ever

[drowsy mica]

any romanians?

[maiden lark]

Hey guys.. any cool games coming out soon?

Jk 😅

[rare owl]

Tbh yes, this years is going to be good for a gamer, this week Enshrouded, Yakuza 8, Fractured Veil, Tekken 8 etc

[maiden lark]

True. But i was just goofing around.. clearly we all count down the hrs rn.

This year is good in fact. Also much progress at starcitizen and ashes of creation alpha release.

[gaunt olive]

Also Light No Fire this year right?

[worthy river]

Star citizen has progress? What kind? New packages for 50k?

[gaunt olive]

You're not wrong, they did release an exclusive pack only for people who have already paid a certain amount into the game. It's insane people are still paying 1k for ships

[rare owl]

Idk, i think 2025 but who knows

[worthy river]

You're kidding right? Pulling my leg? That's sounds like an april fools joke.

Pay more to unlock the option to pay even more.

[balmy wadi]

Pax Dei, Nightingale, Throne & Liberty...

[gaunt olive]

Nightingale was fun, but something tells me Enshrouded will have more fluid and enjoyable combat.

[balmy wadi]

But Nightingale looks more diverse contenwise...did not get my hands on it til now.

[maiden lark]

Its still starcitizen, its still SoonTM.. i dont want to deny that or start a long discussion. All true. Through they are transfering resources from the solo-player campaign to the Persistent Universe (online game) and progress is faster now

[fallow dirge]

Nightingale looks really cool. Especially the building pieces. Different themes. I'm a sucker for these kinds of games so I probably get that also haha

[balmy wadi]

That pack is there since 2013.

...at least SCs got much more content in the current Alpha Stage as many AAA Games will ever have 🤷🏻‍♂️

[maiden lark]

Yep! And its growing. But still not enough.. im logging in every 3 month and play it for like a week until i get bored again.

But apparently basebuilding is coming now and the new system and servermeshing

All soonTM

[balmy wadi]

Same here 😅 they have to finish some gameplay loops like the mining and processing of fuel.

[gaunt olive]

Isn't that going to be the games problem? That all the people who bought it over years will already be done with the content when the average consumer gets their hands on it? The playerbase already cut down?

[balmy wadi]

OMFG I have like 20 Titles "Coming Soon" on my Steam Wishlist...

[balmy wadi]

For the server get wipred from time to time...and will be at release ...it will not be that type of an issue.

[maiden lark]

Well. There are missing loops and there is no FOMO in the sense of having the feeling that you would miss out when not logging in. The game needs systems to have that

More stuff to do, to collect, to progress. Not just money.

[gaunt olive]

Hopefully, cuz if it is only FOMO, it won't get that large player base, seems most are burnt out on that

[maiden lark]

And eventually no more wipes

[gaunt olive]

I'll be going the scrub route, working on other peoples ships as a deckhand till I make enough to purchase a ship. But I don't think most will be excited for that either

[maiden lark]

Maybe wrong phrasing on my side.. there is no benefit in playing for weeks compared logging in every 3 month

Except having a few more alpha bucks

[gaunt olive]

But having a consistent player base is paramount for such a large scale persistent world like that, no?

[maiden lark]

I think it has a pretty massive playerbase

Constant new people as well

The hype is getting bigger

[balmy wadi]

Even more, as far as ppl get their handy on SQ42.

[maiden lark]

Yeah.. even ppl like asmongold will hype the hell out of that campain.. it does in fact look nice

[formal niche]

wait they gave out actual release time and not just date? im shocked

i thought everything was secretive or something

[rapid yoke]

We've had a time for a long while

So sorry you missed it

[formal niche]

so no secret? thats wild

figured theyd save the time it launched so people couldnt say it was in the middle of the workday and wouldnt even give it a try

[rapid yoke]

This is other games chat, please take your commentary to community-chat or game chat 🙂

[formal niche]

youre a mod? my bad

[sour burrow]

what other mmos are due out soon, any?

[cursive barn]

i am interested in enshourded before and also wishlisting it...but now we have PalWorld, a survival game, release the game seems like very bad idea.

[livid violet]

They aren't going to release early because you're upset. The release times are locked in months in advance. lol

[brittle wigeon]

Did you hear about soulmask?

[sour burrow]

no, tell me!

[brittle wigeon]

Look for it. Some are playing on twitch too

[sour burrow]

Ashes of Creation is the one im waiting for but long wait for that

[brittle wigeon]

Demo comes out on i think 5th feb

[sour burrow]

i'll take a look now

[brittle wigeon]

Game is early stage as i looked for it

[gloomy ruin]

J

[frail holly]

being playing Palworld, with 3 friend's ... and we're pretty much done with it... it's got really limited shit to do, poor building... and we've killed all but 1 boss in 3 day's.. oh, and i'm probs gunna never launch that crap again, cos it stopped my PC from shutting down, bricking it hard... so i wouldn't say it even compared to enshrouded, regardless of t's succes

[sour burrow]

yeah I put 70 hours into it and im done with it now.

[frail holly]

and no my pc ain't shit.. ti's a fukin beast..

ye' exactly

[brittle wigeon]

I heard gportal had problems too because of palworld

[sour burrow]

my friend was running a server off them, was awful

[frail holly]

it's honestly scary man..

[sour burrow]

kicked 40 odd times

[frail holly]

i had to hit to power button 3 times.. cos it didn't even shutdown..

after closing the game

pretty scary on a new pc

[brittle wigeon]

Thats early access on the hard way

[sour burrow]

I got a lot of free time so I wanna put some time into a new game

[cursive barn]

i was with steam version, not having these issues myself..

[frail holly]

ye my friend's didn't.. stem's the only way to play it right ?

[cursive barn]

seems like that.

xbox and xbox on pc both unplyable if you do multiple player

[brittle wigeon]

Enshrouded will be there in few hours ^^

[cursive barn]

i did not play demo before. honesly. how polish this game at EA will be ?

[sour burrow]

yeah I don't really enjoy single player though, im quite a social guy but none of my pals wanna play it

[brittle wigeon]

Myth of empires, conan exiles

[sour burrow]

ha completed conan

dont know the other

[cursive barn]

i only played valheim. but i know its completely different survival than all other..

[brittle wigeon]

Moe will re release on steam after a copyright strike

[sour burrow]

oh jeeze lol

[brittle wigeon]

Conan is one of the best

[sour burrow]

another I Wanted to try but again its not a single player game really?

[cursive barn]

none...its completely playable in solo
the game is only grindy if you try to build entire castle/village by yourself

[brittle wigeon]

There are many mods for valheim and i think there is something interesting coming for it

[sour burrow]

but is it fun alone? isnt it quite a multiplayer game

[brittle wigeon]

https://youtu.be/e034PG9D22I?feature=shared

[sour burrow]

im really not a solo player 😂

[frail holly]

i enjoyed the game but... the not being able to shut down my PC after it closed, was scary as.. i enjoyed it, but i'm a master builder for my little crew... enshrouded is gunna be like heaven ...to me xD

[sour burrow]

yeah im a builder in most games too ha

[cursive barn]

it has its atonement: survival, prepare your adventure.

[half kraken]

For next time, hold down your power button for about 5-10seconds

[frail holly]

i can't wait... not gunna sleep forr a day, ( god bless insomnia) ... i'm so hyped, the ptential of building seems like.. utter madness

[cursive barn]

how about ctrl alt del ?

of alt+ f4

[sour burrow]

wish I had a group I knew that was excited to play it

[frail holly]

ye that worked for palworld... it's just Sus... and really scary to do that you know..

[brittle wigeon]

Hope there will be a mod for enshrouded to make a 100 player server xD

[frail holly]

neither worked.. only hard power button hold.

[sleek axle]

Italian player???

[half kraken]

As I said in the other channel but deleted, until Craftopia is finished, I aint touching any of their crap

[frail holly]

i Feel you Bro... i'm so blessed i have my two Bro's and fiance to pay with man.. i'd invite you along to the crew, but i'm afraid it's not my cll alone, and my best mates the one rentng a server.. or trying to RN xD

[sour burrow]

I dont wanna play this on single player mode and get so far to then find a group 😂

[frail holly]

ye it was sus af, and pretty scary to have to do that

[frail holly]

innit haha, sod law xd

[sour burrow]

where you from tode?

[granite sleet]

When I came back to craftopia last year I fell in love with the picture book mechanic. I'll also admit when I stopped playing in 2020 I thought the game was a pump and dump scam. I like the game right now.

[frail holly]

England, mate leeds, but i just moved to he netherlands to start my new life with my fiance 😄

[sour burrow]

after this comment you gotta be british 😂

[frail holly]

1000%

[sour burrow]

haha thought so

[frail holly]

xD

[sour burrow]

brummy here

[frail holly]

haha legend ❤️

[half kraken]

The fact you stopped playing in 2020, then they started a new game, and Craftopia still isnt finished...to me says a lot about them

[sour burrow]

enjoy netherlands though man! Im going out to bulgaria in june

[half kraken]

I know parallel development and all but...Id like to see some development as part of that process 😄

[brittle wigeon]

I think that was a money problem

[frail holly]

man, i am don't worry, it's so much more chill here, alot more calm life :d

[sour burrow]

speak any dutch yet? 😂

[granite sleet]

I think the change in direction from multiple worlds to a singular world was a good choice on their part. I wonder if the same train of thoughts went through the no man sky dev's head.

[frail holly]

like a few words.. i'm dyslexic AF ... so don't retain the informaton but i'm picking thing's up as i go xD :S

[sour burrow]

Think thats a leeds thing, my mates from there, hes worse haha

[tiny canopy]

Its simply the risk of buying early access, You don't have a guarantee that it will be finished, all of the games made by that dev have this ripoff feel to them, the only difference between them and Palworld is that its fun and different (gameplay wise, the design of the game is pretty uninspired overall)

[half kraken]

Pokemon (w/ Guns)...meh

[tiny canopy]

I don't see any Turn-based combat in Palworld

[balmy wadi]

Nobody tells you, you have to like it 🤷🏻‍♂️

[frail holly]

yup... my fiance who's fro mthe NL, even has a yorkshire accent now... and has to speak slower when speaking english to them,, it's hileriouse xD... dutch ppl think she's english if we speak it.. and are all wide eye'd when she replies in dutch lmfao xD

[half kraken]

Its a discussion, there doesnt need to be any final resolution, just expressions of opinions 😄

[cursive barn]

I think turn-base combat is not necessary outdated and bad..

[balmy wadi]

And everybody knows, that Palworld is kind of a Craftopio Revamp

[sour burrow]

poor lass 😂 then again I do prefer a northern accent to south as I live in oxford now. Where im going in bulgaria is full of dutch so ive started learning it myself lol

[frail holly]

one word... BG3..

[balmy wadi]

Well "Pokemon w(guns)..meh" is of course a viable argument as an eloquent base for a discussion 😅

[sour burrow]

isnt that technically 3 words? 😂

[formal niche]

truth but its still an amazing game with 68k reviews and 93% positive

[frail holly]

ohhh whow... i didn't know they spoke dutch there that's cool, but like us they had coleny's all over.. makes sense..

[half kraken]

Again, its an opinion, you don't have to agree.

[frail holly]

https://tenor.com/view/its-all-about-perspective-sarah-foti-ultimate-cowboy-showdown-it-depends-on-how-you-see-it-it-depends-on-your-perspective-gif-25477066

[cursive barn]

i believe no one will predicted "send your pal to help you do grindy task" could be point PalWorld is popular

[balmy wadi]

Did´t say any good/bad vs that...i just dont care about the game or Pokemon, but who likes it, should play it

[sour burrow]

c'mon, if palworld isnt a pokemon copy, I dont know what is. Disagree all you want, pokeballs, the names, the designs. Stop kidding yourselves 😂

[cursive barn]

even their traIler only has like 5% of video length about baSE BUILDING

[formal niche]

facts

[sour burrow]

they dont haha, its a club area with dutch clubs lol

[formal niche]

i mean same can be said about digimon too

[tiny canopy]

I played 8 hours of palworld in one day, I originally had it ignored, but my brother got it and convinced me to give it a go, the game is surprisingly fun, and for early access is runs fairly smoothly, I feel like the main reason the game got as big as it did is simply that Nintendo is too stubborn to cash in on the PC market, so now that someone did what Nintendo didn't for so long, they get a metric ton of attention

[sour burrow]

kinda dead though in comparison haha

[balmy wadi]

except digimon are much cooler...

[formal niche]

not really. digimon launched a game in 2022 same year a pokemon game last launched

[formal niche]

than pals on palworld?

[balmy wadi]

than Pokemoin and Pals altogether^^

[granite sleet]

I held off on buying palworld for a couple days because of my impression from 2020. I used that time to watch content and make an informed decision.

I eventually I got it to help me pass the time till enshrouded which it successfully did. Have had fun and got my money's worth already.

I hope the game gets a modding comminity that matches the massive quantity of people playing right now.

[tiny canopy]

What game? never heard of that

[sour burrow]

digimon was just another copy in its own right though. Its like arguing over burger king and mcdonalds lol

[formal niche]

eh i can somewhat agree. either way its still "pets" you capture and fight with like pokemon

[balmy wadi]

Btw...Palworld is part of XBOX/PC Gamepass...just saying. Just saw that yesterday. FYI

[frail holly]

the dev's literaly got asked what gave them the idea for palworld... and they said word for word " the idea to do pokemon with gun's was to appeal to a western market,,, we added gun's becuase american's like to shoot thing's and we wanted to reach a global audiense" ... they called it pokemmon with gun's themselves xD they've already failed to be suied by nintendo a few times allready aparently

[sour burrow]

they even have 'types' next theyll make cards for it

[formal niche]

thats what im saying. people will and can say its a copy and paste of pokemon but they cant deny the success of palworld lol

[sour burrow]

very successful, absolutely

[formal niche]

idk about cards. most card games are obselete and outdated.

[sour burrow]

you aint wrong

[normal tide]

wtf is this?
its basically the same game LOL
https://store.steampowered.com/app/2618360/Kingdom_of_Fallen_The_Last_Stand/

Steam

Kingdom of Fallen: The Last Stand

"When the fresh blood flows out, the flames extinguish, the light recedes, precious memories are about to crumble. I thought everything was about to end, but at the very edge of death, I once again opened my eyes. Is this new world redemption or the exile of the soul?"At the blink of death, you are transported to this cursed kingdom. You need to...

Release Date

Q2 2024

▶ Play video

[formal niche]

and thats coming from someone that played yugioh in tournaments lmao

[balmy wadi]

It´s good, that it is successful.

[sour burrow]

yeah I heard about them trying to sue haha

[sour burrow]

I literally have yugioh card game downloaded, im so bad though

[formal niche]

only yugioh card game ill play is the mod version on pc. the phone ones are all scams to me

[frail holly]

hey it's nintendo's fault for dropping the ball.. imagine a pokemon mmo like palworld... hopefully they will see the succes and do summmin but who knows

[sour burrow]

thats what I got I think

[cursive barn]

most of the player i met told me they do not think gun is important in palworld game. and they do not craft guns.

[formal niche]

buying packs where you get no choice in card and using the sell value for "credits" to buy cards you actually want

[sour burrow]

I said the same to my mate, people wanted it for years

[formal niche]

cant just buy "credits" and buy what you want

[frail holly]

dman right.. we'd all play it

[formal niche]

pokemon has no basis to stand on to sue

they dont own the right to games using "pets" in their game lmao

[sour burrow]

theyre sitting on a dime but wont give in to it

yeah exactly

[frail holly]

nah they don't at all, they've failed already i heard.

[sour burrow]

they got as much right to sue as battlefield does for cod

either or

you get my point ha

[frail holly]

exactly the convo me and my mate's had last night... sitttiing on one of the greratest IP's... and then did that Arcious crap... with no point

[sour burrow]

imagine if it was nintendo that dropped a Pokemon MMO, game of the century

if they combined with, dare I say it, blizzard

or bethesda, a company with mmo knowledge

[tiny canopy]

Hopefully the make a pokemon game that isn't mid or a buggy mess for the first time in 5 years or so XD

[sour burrow]

but some indie company, smartly took a killing for an idea wanted for a decade

[frail holly]

not an overstatement's at all man... literaly true.. it'd be amazing

[frail holly]

ye'

[sour burrow]

I mean f blizz, micro transactions everywhere

Ashes of Creation, thats gonna be a killer

[frail holly]

ye' played wow for 15 year's + man.. it's a love hate relationship..

[sour burrow]

2008 represent 😂

[tiny canopy]

Thats basically all that needs to be said about Palworld's success, in a world where Nintendo actually made a good decision for once, it would have just been dead on arrival

[frail holly]

played BDO competativly back when.. Ashes has being the distent Holy grail for a long time... i hope they pul it off

[sour burrow]

I did bd mobile, had no one to play bdo with so never got into it

wow arena player since tbc though lol

[frail holly]

good, it's that grindy and mad.. it's a lifestyle not a game lmfao xD

[sour burrow]

I hope the future of PW is positive. We will see.

[frail holly]

haha my man, same .. i only got 2.6k in legion tho..

[sour burrow]

thats decent like

2.7 was my max. managed multi glad though

R1 in BFA but that was troll

[frail holly]

ye' they said they only wonna makes ames ppl like, they didn't know how to make a game then the team got together... hopefully the suces ramp's and pumps them up to really create a good futre.. for sure

[sour burrow]

time will tell 😂

[frail holly]

@sour burrow i'm gunna go chill for now mate but i'm gunna add you mate, you seems like a real sound dude, on the same wavelength as me and my boy's, can check in abit later when the games out.. and see what we think ❤️ nice chatting bro.

[sour burrow]

sound man, give us a message whenever 👍

[short sail]

Oh. Valheim Newsblog.
https://valheim.com/news/development-blog-rivals-and-respites/

[reef bobcat]

@nocturne elm have u played palworld

[nocturne elm]

I have. Its free on GamePass, Which I have like 3 years of

[reef bobcat]

yessir GP got the hookup but same 6 years 🫡

[nocturne elm]

Palworld is fun, but it kinda lacks content. They need to keep adding stuff to keep it relevant.

[hasty vigil]

Palworld just hit 2mil active players

[granite sleet]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WjI9zcWILB8

[lapis basalt]

Tomorrow is going to be a good day

Enshrouded will be out and my 2kgs of beef jerky will arrive

[granite sleet]

Loved beef jerky back in 2014. The building I was working at my buddy and I saw these dudes that were throwing out a large box of jack links beef jerky. We appropriated it before they could do so. That was my first time having it and there was so much, for like a week I was in heaven.

[valid cobalt]

yeah just the fact that people is donating, not purchasing ships. Some people just want good games and not call of duties

[lapis basalt]

You only loved it in 2014? Why so specific? Beef jerky is still the gift of the gods

[granite sleet]

I keep finding new things to love. Like in 2017 and onwards I fell in love with lobster. Oh and last year I fell in love with mangos, although the ones I like aren't in season right now.

[lapis basalt]

But you can love more than one thing at a time

I love pickled cabbage too. I could sit in either

[granite sleet]

One downside to beef jerky I faced was that sometimes the jerky was too dried out. Other issue is quantity, the snack doesn't last very long. The flavor was worth it though, especially when it was the right quality.

[cursive barn]

they want to match price tag of PalWorld. I guess....

in my steam store its 13usd

[quaint kiln]

Wow 2m. Didn’t think it was possible Palworld could get more popular every day lol

[cursive barn]

its a miracle. even the CEO admit that.

[soft junco]

crazy

longest time i’ve seen a game hold their player count

[astral pelican]

so, there is a channel here that's not on fire, good to know

[shadow hemlock]

^

[finite saffron]

Shh don't tell anyone, it's the last safe space left

[sullen crane]

lol

[honest valley]

[timber prism]

This channel is the best channel

[sweet ether]

1 week is the longest?

[astral pelican]

had fun with it tbh until I found out about their other games like craftopia

which got abandoned in the EA hell

so we'll see how things go a year down the line

[soft junco]

name another game that’s held 800k+ for this long that’s new haven’t heard of it 😂

[valid vine]

literally cs2

[sweet ether]

yea I'm assuming that's sarcasm

[quaint kiln]

It’s not just holding. It’s growing lol

[timber prism]

Dont let previous games ruin your fun of their current one

Im hoping with all the popularity of this one it actually gets worked on properly

[astral pelican]

bit late for that

the notElden Ring-ass world with NotPokemon didn't help not thinking about it like an asset flip

[timber prism]

?????

[astral pelican]

but it was fun

[timber prism]

Interesting to compare the world to Elden Ring when that is a basic feature that predates that game XD

[astral pelican]

which one?

cause I was talking about the churches and the boss circles

[timber prism]

oh interesting

[astral pelican]

you know

the church of Furrika

[timber prism]

ahhhhh

i was just generalizing on the open world concept

[astral pelican]

well, the realistic style clashes with the Pals too but afaik they just lifted the Craftopia world

[soft junco]

that doesn’t count it’s not a new title or IP

[astral pelican]

I want to see this game and Palworld get updates

maybe then Valheim peeps wake up

[sullen crane]

This is pretty

[timber prism]

I like all the flowers

[sweet ether]

lost ark and new world also had similar feats

[valid vine]

Okay. Baldurs gate. 800k for 3 weeks

[astral pelican]

ah, the same amount of time it takes to finish act 1

[sullen crane]

It’s sad how badly optimized the game is when everyone voiced it during the demo.

Which was in October…..

We are in January

[dusk bluff]

Get a better pc

[sullen crane]

Ryzen 9 7950X3D
AMD Radeon RX 7900 XTXHellhound Overclocked 24GB
32 GB DDR5 RAM

Im sure u can’t even afford what i have

[dusk bluff]

7800x3d 4090 64gb ram and 8tb of gen 5 storage. Get rekt kid

[sullen crane]

I still have a better cpu

[astral pelican]

I still have a PS1 that works, both of you calm down

[dusk bluff]

Not for gaming lol

[alpine socket]

Calm down ladies

[dusk bluff]

Your not my mom!

[alpine socket]

No, Im your dad

[dusk bluff]

Dad, Mom said we can have pizza and ice cream for dinner.

[alpine socket]

You better get your money out then.... I'm broke

[dusk bluff]

Deal

[alpine socket]

Now buy me Enshrouded otherwise you are grounded for a week!

[supple plank]

Timmy its your mom you need to come home, dad went to buy milk. And its your naptime soon!

[alpine socket]

Excuse me miss, Your child was being rather disrespectful to my son, I would appreciate if you made him apologise.

[dusk bluff]

😿

[supple plank]

@sullen crane you apologize this instant or i take away your cocopops

[alpine socket]

I can think of another way you could apologise Wink Wink

[dusk bluff]

By buying you enshrouded?

[alpine socket]

Lmao

[rich coral]

palworld 1,3 million players, enshrouded 50k 💀

[dusk bluff]

When people hate on enshrouded but haven't even played it yet.

[fallen anvil]

.........and?

[spring socket]

Palworld is kind of an outlier. I don't think you can honestly compare it to any other games.

[rich coral]

crazy to release in the same month

[fallen anvil]

it's not crazy. if i would feel like palworld, id play some palworld. if i would feel like some enshrouded, id jump over to enshrouded. i don't see a problem 😂 And on the long run the statistic numbers will even out anyway

[dusk bluff]

Yep. Palworld content runs out quite quick and their road map is "we will fix bugs and add content at some point."

Both are fun games both have different niches to fill

[fallen anvil]

yeah i think all the games on steam can coexist just fine :V

xD

[spring socket]

I do like the idea of eating pokemon.

[fallen anvil]

i mean, there are some sort of pokemon in enshrouded >_> i had to kill one to see what it is, quick lil buggers.

[spring socket]

I didn't get to try the demo, what kind of animal/monster was it?

[timber prism]

@dusk bluff @sullen crane why are you both acting like children? XD

[timber prism]

Yeah. There is no way that Enshrouded will ever hit the same peak player count.

[dusk bluff]

Because she started it mom!

Just giving back the same energy they gave off xD.

[timber prism]

It probably has the same content as Enshrouded unless you are stating that both don't have much

Its basically going to be... do I want to spend time building stuff

Versus. Do I want to min max breeding pals

[dusk bluff]

We will see. I ran out in palworld in about a day but had a lot of fun

[timber prism]

That just means its not the game for you. I'm sure you didn't min max your pals

Did you at least finish your collection?

[dusk bluff]

I don't see a point to min max it isn't needed for any content

Yep finished the collection!

[timber prism]

Neither is building

[dusk bluff]

Never said it was but building I have something to more show for in my mind. Instead of wow they are 1% stronger now!

[timber prism]

Gotcha

In that sense I guess you did run out of stuff that you particular like to do versus running out of content

[dusk bluff]

I even played competitive pokemon but just used others teams instead of grinding since it was a huge waste of time.

I also don't build much in games lol

[timber prism]

Haha

That is the only reason why I'm playing this one

What are your plans for this game?

[spring socket]

I just noticed that you two both have cat profile pictures.

[dusk bluff]

The way I see it. If the content is doing the same thing over and over for a 1% increase it's a giant waste of time

[timber prism]

Its not really 1% but I understand

[spring socket]

Two cats can't get along this well. It's madness.

[dusk bluff]

Wait for dinner time

[timber prism]

People don't enjoy min max but its pretty crazy

Like having 80% extra damage is huge

When pvp is added then it will show the difference imo

[dusk bluff]

That's what turns me off even more. I have to min max to do pvp? Why can't I just win in skill vs a no lifer with no skill

[timber prism]

To reward people for min maxing?

[dusk bluff]

What about casual gamers? We don't get to win because we have jobs?

[timber prism]

You can have a job and still min max

[spring socket]

That seems like part of a stats driven system to me

[timber prism]

That is a ridiculous statement

[astral pelican]

you have a job, didn't you win enough?

[spring socket]

You could argue, I think correctly, that manipulating your stats to give you a competitive advantage is a skill

[astral pelican]

but yeah, more time ingame = more advantage

unless there is space to actually use the brain

[dusk bluff]

So if I can play 1-2 hours a day and fight someone who does 8hours a day I can easily win if I am better?

That's all I need to know

[astral pelican]

wdym by better

[spring socket]

Easily seems like the operative word there

[timber prism]

Esports logic

[dusk bluff]

I am more skilled at fighting

[spring socket]

Also what game are we talking about

[astral pelican]

no idea anymore

[dusk bluff]

Pal world

[spring socket]

Oh, I retract my statements, I have no idea how that works

[timber prism]

No one does yet

[dusk bluff]

I am asking if I need to grind insane amount of hours to be competitive in pvp. Even if I am more skilled

[timber prism]

Its just assumptions

[spring socket]

All I know is I made a guy with giant legs and a teeny tiny body and stick arms and a beautiful chin.

[astral pelican]

that'a big reach there about more skilled

[spring socket]

And I just giggle

[astral pelican]

same

[dusk bluff]

They yoinked that from a game called chimera land lol

Look it up the characters you can make are hilarious

[spring socket]

For real?? I assumed it was something they did that would get tweaked later lol

[astral pelican]

just in general, if you spend less time on a certain thing you can't expect to have the knowledge or the motor skills than the person that puts more time in it

[dusk bluff]

Not talking about that

Fighting skill vs grinding a monsters stats to be higher is 2 different things

Let's use pokemon for an example. You need 0 fighting knowledge to breed the best pokemon in the game besides what moves you want it to have

You don't even need to battle

[timber prism]

There is nothing wrong with that

[astral pelican]

how would you know that pokemon is the best tho

[dusk bluff]

That's your opinion and that's 100% valid. But for people like me who don't have the time for that it alienates us from the game

[timber prism]

Okay

Just means its not for you if you feel that way

Which is fine

Doesn't make the system bad

[dusk bluff]

Again that's your opinion.

Just like how I am sharing mine

[timber prism]

Yeah

[spring socket]

This, this is more cat-like.

I approve of the tense standoff.

[dusk bluff]

I play video games to have fun and get the most out of my small amount of gaming time. This is exactly why I want to know if that's how palworld will be lol

Why waste my time if I can't enjoy it.

[spring socket]

That's part of why I just don't pvp at all. That and I'm old and bad at games.

[dusk bluff]

I also hope they put out a proper timeline instead of "we will do stuff eventually"

[dusk bluff]

Yeah popular games pvp lately require too much time sink

[steep palm]

Yo nerds, I got an enshrouded and palworld server up. No crashes on either, ever. (enshrouded was released todya tho so.)

Palworld : axiompals.servegame.com:8211

Enshrouded "Axiom - Enshrouded"

Feel free to use to your hearts content.

[dusk bluff]

Wrong place lol

[steep palm]

Is it? this is ht eother games chgannel 😛

[dusk bluff]

That's more lfg

[spring socket]

Yeah, post it there, people will come looking for it

[dusk bluff]

I guess technically it could be here for the palworld

[timber prism]

I couldn't tell you as I'm not a dev. I'm hoping they do some sort of pvp option that has both standardized stats and the min/max one but we will have to see

The 32 player servers in itself already poses a challenge because you can't just join some pvp server with existing characters so you won't have a giant pool of competition

[dusk bluff]

That too will have to constantly make fresh servers like vrising

[timber prism]

There might be a way to find player data and that would be cool

[dusk bluff]

Also worried for hackers since I already see mods for it out.

Smaller indie studio is going to have a huge battle ahead of them

[timber prism]

For sure

[gilded depot]

hey i know this isnt for in here but slow mode is way to long does anyone know how to get into ur dedicated server lmao

[lilac holly]

.

[sullen crane]

https://tenor.com/view/sevika-arcane-sevika-sevika-arcane-gif-27177608

[fallow bobcat]

The building is ludicrous in this game. Holy hell!

[tepid wadi]

Ah, already getting started making jumping puzzles? Good, good

[sullen crane]

https://store.steampowered.com/app/881020/Granblue_Fantasy_Relink/

Steam

Granblue Fantasy: Relink

Story

Release Date

Jan 31, 2024

▶ Play video

[peak marsh]

Cracks me up how many people are in here giving detailed critiques when statistically almost 60% of them haven't even beaten the first boss

[prisma vine]

funny that valheim drops another post today

[warm geyser]

Whats the limit level?

[dusk bluff]

Someone in here now hasn't even played the game and are bashing it lol. They have their steam profile linked and everything.

[sturdy otter]

I'm mad too

[dusk bluff]

Yep lol imagine calling someone names because you don't like a game

[sullen crane]

lol your mad because i gave feedback on the games not being decently optimized

[dusk bluff]

You're* How am I mad? This is just childish.

[sullen crane]

u keep out the blue picking jabs at me lol u seem upset

[dusk bluff]

"u keep out the blue"

[tepid wadi]

Hey, lets keep things civil.

[frozen axle]

I noticed that too lol

[charred totem]

https://discord.com/channels/1046840540550942720/1199887837491896391

[barren dragon]

👋

[solid sage]

the fighting game is really fun

[reef bobcat]

PS4 PORT WHEN???

[dusk bluff]

@timber prism I called it lol

[silver jewel]

Sorry, asking in here because of the timer in the other chats: Has there been any official acknowledgement of needing in-game chat?

[dusk bluff]

You don't just go to a different chat to try to get around the timer my guy lol

[silver jewel]

I believe I just did, and I'm not your guy, pal!

https://tenor.com/z6Nt.gif

[dusk bluff]

And that's why no answer for you friend

[silver jewel]

Because I made a joke?

[north plover]

Don't mind them, that cat's all business.

[spring socket]

Who let dad in here

That was close enough to a dad joke

[dusk bluff]

That's not the reason pal!

[dusk bluff]

True.

[timber prism]

Bound to happen. Glad they are quick to patch it

?

[peak marsh]

He's been posting his own YT videos in here and self promo since a month ago

It's just spam

[quaint cosmos]

thanks for bringing that to my attention, the posts are deleted. They will use #self-promo properly.

[lapis panther]

Hmm, I don't remember saying anything lol

[quaint cosmos]

Oops. I am sorry. I didnt mean to ping. My phone will press other notices by mistake.

[lapis panther]

no worries

[sullen crane]

U acting as if every game doesn’t have a cheating issue

I rather not download a kennel anti cheat

[dusk bluff]

Why are you commenting? This was a earlier discussion we had where palworld will have hackers due to its popularity and will have a big battle ahead of them.

Good job taking something out of context and assuming something completely irrelevant.

Also kennels are for animals. Kernels are for computers.

[sullen crane]

Every game has hackers that’s my point

I guess it flew over your head

[dusk bluff]

No one says that others games don't have hackers.

It clearly flew over your own head when we were specifically talking about palworld having a battle coming up due to popularity and then being a smaller studio so not used to an influx.

If what you are saying is irrelevant to the conversation kindly keep it to yourself.

[steady sand]

Any1 loaded into a friends private server recently?? I'm permanently stuck in loading screen..

[sullen crane]

Blizzard survival mmo cancelled

[tawny swallow]

Palworld or craftopia lol

[placid rock]

You realize that Craftopia was made using Unity Engine and Palworld was made using Unreal Engine...
They are COMPLETELY different engines. Similarity =/= exact copy

[tawny swallow]

"The agility of Unreal Engine technology allows developers to convert any kind of Unity project to Unreal Engine. All you need is access to a devkit (in case of working with consoles), a proper knowledge of C++ and UE's development principles, and deep research into game's mechanics and structure."

[placid rock]

Now re-read what you just posted and think about that

[tawny swallow]

not to mention just because its a different engine does not mean its not the same game?, thats like saying GTAV on ps3 is not the same game as GTAV on PS4 because they had to engine upgrade

[maiden grotto]

Engine upgrade doesn't equal a completely different engine...

[tawny swallow]

assets are also not tied to a single engine, and neither is basic concept, they took all of the mechanics from craftopia and put it into palworld, with some of the same assets, not all, and they do have some differences is style, but literally bar for bar on concept it is the same automation system, pokemon catching system, they have a lot of the same Ui, same dungeon system, and crafting system lmao

they even had the same bugs that craftopia did on release

[placid rock]

I have to fact check this, but I am pretty sure they are made by different teams as well.

[placid rock]

I will also have to look in your claim about the bugs, being the same and all that. Similar ideas and systems =/= copy of each other

[tawny swallow]

they are not, the original team of craftopia abandoned craftopia to make palworld and hired a new team to work on crafttopia less than a year later

they are both developed by PocketPair

[placid rock]

Do you have a source comparing those systems and explaining the bugs that were the same? I can't seem to find anything concrete on my initial look. So I can't really verify what you are saying

[tawny swallow]

partly negative reviews of both palworld and craftopia, and my friend who has a bachelors in game development opened both games in discord in a stream and detailed most of the mechanics

[placid rock]

Can you DM that thread to me, your friends post

[tawny swallow]

the thread of negative reviews on steam?

oh no in a live discord stream not recorded

[placid rock]

oh damn...

[tawny swallow]

Maybe i will ask him to record

[placid rock]

I would really love to see that, nothing I have seen would lead me to believe these are copies of each other, similar themes, sure but copies I can't really see that right now..

What I will say is this though:

1. The whole devs admitted to using AI for assets, was proven to be false. There were two examples, and one was a Game about AI, it wasn't even assets, and it wasn't related to pal world. The other was about introducing AI to their companies workflow, which again is not assets
2. Palworld managed to set the record for concurrent players in 24 hours and holds second place for concurrent steam players of all time... It's popularity is still sky high
3. If it were purely a low quality asset flip it would NOT be holding the momentum it continues to hold.
4. Palworld is a fun game in it's own right, but it isn't my jam... I just don't like seeing it get discounted because it has accomplished a TON OF things that even AAA titles can't manage to do

[tawny swallow]

I personally think the only 2 reasons the game blew up like it did, is the same reason people invested in Gamestop when stock companies tried to short it, Its 1. for the meme, americans just love legal slavery for some reason, and 2. it throws a shit filled pie in nintendos face, which everyone is happy about, the game is not revolutionary, unlike its charting counterparts, I purely believe its this popular because of the meme behind it

[placid rock]

I believe it being a "meme game" originally contributed to it's initial popularity. But the systems it built, and combined (while not original) have never been combined before, it also happend to be a solid game anyway.

However no way it would continue to set world records and have over 1 million players at this VERY moment (just checked) if all it had going for it was the memes.

If you were to tell me It's overrated, I would agree. But I refuse to discount it's success and hand waive it a way as a crappy asset flip. It clearly did MANY things right

[tawny swallow]

I disagree, if 1 million people bought it, of course 1 million people are gonna play it within the week of its release, lets see how those numbers keep up over the next month especially with multiple AAA titles releasing in February, I think people just really enjoy sticking it to nintendo, however i think the game will die off considerably fast compared to its other charting counterparts, its not going to upkeep 1 million concurrent players for a month

[placid rock]

You understand that most games, even AAA games don't hit 1 million+ concurrent players to begin with, even if they sell 10 million copies.

[tawny swallow]

Fair my reasoning for bringing up AAA games is the fact i think they will pull a lot of palword players away and they wont return

[placid rock]

Right now it has pulled 1 million concurrent players week after week day after day, Usually around 2 million during peak hours. That is not something most games ever see

Most games don't see more than 500k concurrent players, much less day after day

[tawny swallow]

it has not been a full week since release

[placid rock]

sorry day after day is what I meant.

In fact

[tawny swallow]

right but i dont think it will hold that, unlike its charting counterparts, as soon as the meme wears off im 100% certain they will have less than 50,000 players a day

[placid rock]

there are only 6 games in HISTORY that have hit over 1million concurrent players on steam

[tawny swallow]

steam history

[placid rock]

Yes on steam as I said

If anything that furthers proves what I am saying. It doesn't even count it's popularity on any other platform

Look at starfield... That game was hyped to all hell and it didn't even beat; 400k

[tawny swallow]

I think it being EA, and based on their update history for craftopia the game will die off quick, it definitely hit charts, and it did something right which is playing into meme culture, however the game is nothing special and just combines already made games

[placid rock]

I am willing to bet that two weeks from now it will still have 500k players minimum. The millions definitely won't last forever, but I don't think it's going to die as you predict

[tawny swallow]

I would 100% take that bet, its not live service, theres no comp scene, its gonna lose players fast

[placid rock]

Tell you what... Let's have this conversation in two weeks I am interested to see how Pal World plays out. And if you happen to find any comparisons to craftopia in the meantime I would be interested in them. I will make it even more interesting. I will put $20.00 that palworld has at least 500k players 2 weeks from now. I will send you a steam game or something. You don't have to agree to anything I just want to have the conversation in two weeks

[warm bay]

you lie look they did an update

xDDD

[tawny swallow]

I'll bet $20 that Feb 19th a month after release it will have less than 500k players

yeah craftopia is just weird lmao, most of the negative reviews detail how most are scared they'll just stop game development

[placid rock]

If you are going a month out, then I want 350k+ two weeks and I got 500k+

[warm bay]

don't worry with Palworld, they will finish craftopia now. and fix all bugs in it that are the same in Palworld, Don't worry

In fact, i do hope they will atleast finish Palworld LMAO

[tawny swallow]

I mean two weeks from now is basically 1 week off from a month

[placid rock]

closer to 4 weeks. I still think it will be popular in 4 weeks

[tawny swallow]

which is basically a month

[placid rock]

right and I originally said 2 weeks at 500k 4 weeks and I want 350k 😛. If you expect this game to die as you say, that shouldn't be too hard to agree to

[tawny swallow]

2-3 days off a full 31

[quaint kiln]

No need to make it political. People aren’t playing because Americans love slavery. Also this is a Japanese game. And the game peaks when Asia is awake which means Asians love it more.
The game is popular because it’s a VERY good game (most give it 9/10), people like the elements of Pokemon, and their friends are playing. It’s simple. It’s not rocket science.

[tawny swallow]

go read the interview with the CEO they ask him why he put guns in the game he replied with "Americans love guns"

[quaint kiln]

Cool. Irrelevant to why the game is this popular. I could name a bunch of games with guns that have no players on them

Also, again, Asians are playing the shit out of this game

[tawny swallow]

well the game is popular because its pokemon wielding guns lol, im just saying i wasnt making it any more political than the ceo did

[warm bay]

and to add this, it is popular because even pokemon fans love it more, pokemon's fan that feel betrayed because they had "shit" game from the studio since many release, most comment are "LoL finally pokemon with good graphics"

[placid rock]

So 500k+ players in two weeks or 350k+ players in 4 weeks I will put $20.00 on either

[tawny swallow]

true I have seen that myself, but lets not pretend that most are playing it because they can enslave pokemon and make small tepig like pokemon wield ak47's lmao

lets do $10 on both?

[placid rock]

sounds good

[timber prism]

You act like it the Americans.. when the all time peak is during hours that Americans are asleep. What a dumb comment

[placid rock]

Ok so we will come back to this Thursday, February 08, 2024 and February 22, 2024. Those dates make sense to you?

[tawny swallow]

do you really think americans dont stay up past their bedtime, especially gamers, especially with a demogeraphic like pokemon you're probably seeing mostly teenagers play the game and it hit 2 million players on a saturday/sunday do you really think every american was asleep on a weekend past midnight

[tawny swallow]

Yes im down

[placid rock]

Also I am willing to put $100.00 down that they won't get sued 👹

[tawny swallow]

lol im not taking that bet, if TemTem can release their game and not get sued i think Palworld is fine

[placid rock]

xD, damn

[timber prism]

Again. Blanket statements. Not surprised

[tawny swallow]

you literally blanket statemented by saying all americans were asleep during peak

[timber prism]

I'm saying the peak hours are off hours for Americans

[quaint kiln]

Teenagers that go to school don’t play video games during a weekday at 10am lmao.

[tawny swallow]

it peaked 2 million on a saturday/sunday

[quaint kiln]

No it didn’t

You really dont know anything

[tawny swallow]

it peaked on the 21st

[quaint kiln]

Stop saying incorrect things

[timber prism]

Lmao

[quaint kiln]

No, it peaked yesterday at 10am EST 7am PST

[tawny swallow]

i just read several articles saying when it peaked at 2 million the game released on a thursday it didnt peak on release day

[tawny swallow]

what crack are you on lemme get some

[smoky marsh]

It broke the previously set record on the 21st.

[placid rock]

https://steamdb.info/app/1623730/charts/

[quaint kiln]

It’s called steamcharts.com

Do your research

[placid rock]

It's been breaking records almost each day and going up each peak. It's 24 hour release peak was something like 1mil,, and it hit 1.5 mil the following day and 2mil+ every peak day since. 2 Mil might be where it floats at during peak for awhile

[tawny swallow]

the first time it broke the record and hit #2 was on the 21st

[quaint kiln]

Nope

[smoky marsh]

Yep

[tawny swallow]

it going up by a few thousand is not the same

[quaint kiln]

https://steamcharts.com/app/1623730

There you go

2m yesterday and today

About 1.2 on the weekend

There are the facts

What you choose to do with the facts are up to you

[smoky marsh]

Sorry what was the argument?

[timber prism]

He stated they broke 2 million over the weekend

[smoky marsh]

Ah right

[quaint kiln]

He was saying it peaked on the weekend, when the peak was actually yesterday and sort of today

[placid rock]

It might see it's greatest peak this weekend I wouldn't be surprised if it managed 2.5mil over the weekend with the momentum it has currently

[quaint kiln]

Probably will

[timber prism]

Stating the game is popular because Americans love slavery

[smoky marsh]

Thats a fairly broad statement

[quaint kiln]

Yeah, when the peaks hours are when the Asian regions play video games

[warm bay]

Cimmeria love slavery

[quaint kiln]

Peak American gaming hours are certainly not 7am PST- 10am EST lol

[timber prism]

On a weekday

[quaint kiln]

Yeah on a weekday

[tawny swallow]

so you think that all 2 million of its players were asian on Jan 24th at 7am/10am

[quaint kiln]

Nope

No one said that

[tawny swallow]

but you think they made up the abundance

[quaint kiln]

Yes I think that because the game peaks during Asian gaming hours, there are more Asians into this game than Americans

[dusk bluff]

It was under 2m today

[quaint kiln]

Yeah I think that’s why he said almost. 2.01 yesterday, 1.99 today

About the same

[placid rock]

1,999,272 today, so yeah it lost a tiny bit of the prior days peak. I still expect 2.5+ mill this weekend

[smoky marsh]

Factually you can argue that it has been popular and sold a shed load of copies. Without the data specific to regions for each time zone though everything else is supposition at best.

(Its not worth getting your pants in a twist over)

[dusk bluff]

Watch for Sunday at 7am

That's likely it's true peak

[tawny swallow]

It wont do what PUBG did thats all i know jesus christ i didnt even realize the impact PUBG had, I wonder what fornites impact was as well during the peak battle royale genre years

[dusk bluff]

It might get close if you count game pass numbers though

[placid rock]

I can agree with that, i don't think it will beat pubg for all time high (concurrent) on steam. I think it will peak around 2.5 million then settle around 350k-500k down the line

[dusk bluff]

Pubg wasn't on game pass

[tawny swallow]

but it was on xbox and playstation

however i highly doubt their numbers on console were even close to their pc numbers

[dusk bluff]

More people in say China play PC vs console.

But no idea how many of them use game pass

[tawny swallow]

Right but China has very weird laws on gaming

I also wonder what Genshins numbers were like at peak, being on every platform

[tawny swallow]

I dont think even with updates they can upkeep 350k-500k for years, unless they quickly add pvp (i saw it mentioned on the road map) most gamers nowadays only look for live service competitive games, and story game lovers are getting a lot less love from a lot of these companies both AAA and non AAA

[placid rock]

For years? probably not... For at least a month or two, I think so

[dusk bluff]

Theres not enough content at all currently. I highly doubt they will add meaningful monthly content.

Likely every 3 months at earliest

[tawny swallow]

regardless Palworld did amazing, and mad props, is their game worth the numbers and the price they have?, you could definitely debate how great the actual game is, but I just know they wont upkeep the numbers for long

I think the bad thing is people comparing 2 indie companies and pitting them against eachother, for example theres no reason to come to the enshrouded discord and say palworld is better, they're two different games in the same genre and we should want both of these games to do great so that these AAA companies stop robbing their players

same reason why BG3 deserved GOTY, a non AAA company made a better game than every AAA company that made a game in 2023, with no dlc, no microtransactions, and no forced online server play even in SP

[sullen crane]

Palworld game of the year

https://tenor.com/view/game-of-the-year-mega65-goty-awards-best-game-gif-20146938

[tawny swallow]

def not bias lol

[sullen crane]

I mean it be hard to out due this game in popularity

I don’t see any other game getting it

It surpassed every game other then pub g

[abstract drift]

Well, the Palworld Hype and a youtube comment under a Palworld video brought me to Enshrouded, unironically. I honestly did not have Enshrouded on my radar, and while I bought both games, I skip Palworld and played Enshrouded the first 2 hours.
My first impressions, I am already hooked:

• I like the setting, the atmosphere, the colors and ambience in the night hours
• brings many Valheim crafting vibes so it's a nice Deja Vu
• Terraforming ability is AMAZING
• The world already seems huge, so much to explore outdoors and in caves, dungeons, buildings etc

It's a great exploration and base building + crafting RPG environment that makes fun as single player so far.

I hope Enshrouded will get more coverage the next days

[sullen crane]

Palworld is the talk of the show in every gaming discord

Even in triple a discords

The devs get paid after a month so we should see a lot bigger team. They have already put up a lot of job postings

[tawny swallow]

Shroud was streaming it yesterday and when the palworld toxic players left the chat people loved it

[lilac fulcrum]

Bigger teams != faster Updates

but maybe higher quality updates

[misty arch]

https://youtu.be/NW8sPFCyOgk?si=ZetZ4hBfoKLa2IrX

[peak marsh]

I know. It's obnoxious, it would be nice if they would all shut up about it already and talk about their game in their own discord(s) instead of acting like toxic children about something they didn't even have any part in making. Like congrats, you got on a hype train. Glad you're enjoying it, move on

[timber prism]

Typically people talk about other games in the other games channel. It just so happens to be the most hyped game of 2024 XD

[peak marsh]

If it was just that I'd have no problem. When I see it brought up every 5 minutes in every active channel, it's obnoxious

I have no issue with people talking about it in here

[sullen crane]

https://tenor.com/view/game-of-the-year-mega65-goty-awards-best-game-gif-20146938

[timber prism]

Ahhh I gotcha. I have to say I just stick to other games channel in every game discord I use lmao

I had no idea its in the main channels too lmao

[peak marsh]

Also it's entirely possible to enjoy the game and discuss it without acting like a toxic 12 year old, JS

[timber prism]

100% agree

But its also the internet so I'm particularly not bothered by it because who is gonna police the wild west? XD

[peak marsh]

Eh, that's fair too, it's just why I find it irksome

I might be more inclined to give Palworld a fair try if I wasn't completely and utterly put off by what I've seen of it's community

[timber prism]

There are thousands of rational well mannered people playing. I assure you xd

Especially compared to other communities. Have you interacted with Rust people? Xd

[peak marsh]

I know, but it's the same experience I had with Rust and Conan and many others, the vocal toxic elements put me off to those experiences for years, and while I still haven't played Rust I finally tried Conan on a private server and it was pretty alright

[timber prism]

Or Atlas... or Last Oasis?

[peak marsh]

xD as I was typing that

[timber prism]

Lmaoooo

Yeaaaaaah

[peak marsh]

Maybe in a few months after people are done sniffing the hype fumes I'll check it out, but mehh, I have such a distaste at the moment it's a hard pass for the near future

[timber prism]

I definitely recommend it at some point. I don't like Pokémon capture games but this one is great

[peak marsh]

That's what I keep hearing, it's enough that I'm interested. Not beyond what I've mentioned above but I'm not hating on the game or anything

[timber prism]

There was only one I really enjoyed from a long time ago and I think it was Monster Rancher???

Its the one where you put CDs into the PS1 or whatever and it would analyze it and make a pet for you

[peak marsh]

MR was good. Wasn't that the one where you could 'find' monsters on other game discs?

[timber prism]

Yessss

I spent more time putting CDs in than actually playing haha

[peak marsh]

I thought that was such a cool idea. There was an old game in Japan called Barcode Battler that came with a scanner and let you scan any product UPC and it would generate a creature for you to fight

[timber prism]

That is awesome

[peak marsh]

There's an old legend that a particular brand of soup got bought out and was getting sold on the black market for insane prices because it made an especially strong one xD

[timber prism]

I miss the arcade cabinet days

[peak marsh]

Yeah. Back in the early 00s there was a Sega Gameworks arcade near me, that place was amazing

[timber prism]

Friends took a trip to Japan and would make money bets on Initial D and Virtual On against locals XD

[peak marsh]

xD Virtual On in the arcade was awesome

I had it on Saturn but I never had the sticks for it

[timber prism]

Yeah! There is gaming music festival here called Magfest that always brings out Virtual On Cabinets. Its great

I always play that and the classic beat em ups like Xmen, Simpsons, and Turtles in Time.

[dusk bluff]

That happens a lot here. Starting to wonder if they actually are just children lol

[peak marsh]

I'm guessing a vast majority are, that's why I usually don't say a whole lot about it

But I've been seeing a lot who clearly aren't and it boggles my mind the way they behave

[dusk bluff]

Might as well put it in their discord info as. Personality: Palworld

Kinda reminds me of all the fortnite hype when it came out but even those kids didn't make it their display name.

[tepid wadi]

Okay but the Fortnite save the world mod was actually really innovative and interesting. I'm still a little sad that it got totally squashed by the BR mode.

[dusk bluff]

I agree that was fun. I also enjoy their custom games now like Lego and racing haha

[tepid wadi]

Yeah for sure

[buoyant arch]

Just wanted to say I miss Portal Knights. 🙂

[peak marsh]

It's still there. You can play it now xD

But @still adder loves your spirit

[cerulean garnet]

Palworld has sold 8 million copies since it was released in "early access" - where the version available is not the final product - last Friday.

[sullen crane]

🤭

[quaint cosmos]

@regal hatch post your videos in either #self-promo or #enshrouded-self-promo . Do not post them here again.

[regal hatch]

Ok

[astral pelican]

Happy Yakuza 8 day btw

[timber prism]

Also Tekken 8!

\o/

[peak marsh]

PETA complains about everything

[karmic cradle]

this game right now it's a mess of buggy things,poorly optimized i lost my character 25hrs in and my friend happen the same, plus the server are not working anymore

after this hotfix

anyone have the same problem?

[tepid wadi]

Try the #troubleshooting channel.

[reef bobcat]

I have only encountered 2 pixelated trees that had no colision detection. The server I am on is working fine. 13.9 hours so far

[mighty robin]

This happened, pretty wild to see a game like Palworld up there topping CSGO and DOTA for Peak All Time players.

Also, major shoutout to Enshrouded, peaked at 93K yesterday.

[dusk bluff]

Honestly thought it would have gone up a lot more today

Seems to be tapering off.

[tiny grove]

I just hate that released around the time Enshrouded came out. I'm like hey buddy remember we were gonna play Enshrouded and now he's like nah i'll play that later im on Palworld! makes me a bit depressed.

[sullen crane]

lol

[astral pelican]

same

[zinc coral]

I love Pal World. I think 'm going to head back over there until Enshroude turns off server wide story progression.

[timber prism]

Some very bad missteps for Enshrouded. That server wide progression is a huge bummer

Coupled with resources respawn at 2 hours is just not a fun time

[spring socket]

Have you left a suggestion about those things?

[timber prism]

Its already known to them yes

[zinc coral]

Yeah. It's pretty unfortunate. That quest progression decision is just baffling.

I did leave feedback. Currently, the shared quest progression is the number one feedback topic on the site.

[timber prism]

Devs even commented on it

[zinc coral]

I didn't see their comment. What did they say

[spring socket]

Well, you've done what you can.

[timber prism]

They acknowledged people don't like it

That was it

[timber prism]

I say wait till the weekend

[spring socket]

If that's all they've responded with then likely it's subject to internal debate.

[timber prism]

It just seems like two things that should never have been a thing to begin with in my mind

I don't know why they thought it was a good idea

[zinc coral]

I mean, my group was going to play together. There are like 30 of us in PalWorld. But only 2 of us picked up Enshrouded on day 1, and we've had to recommend that everyone else wait.

[spring socket]

Some day we'll look back on this EA period and laugh and laaaauuugh

And maybe I'll be a half man half robot, that would be nice. 🙂

But that's just idle rambling, ignore me.

[timber prism]

Luckily. TEKKEN 8

[spring socket]

God I'm old. I used to play Tekken or Tekken 2 or something in an arcade I worked at.

[timber prism]

also Relink next week... Then Helldivers 2... then FF7 haha

[spring socket]

Or was that Virtua Fighter

[timber prism]

I love Virtua Fighter

[zinc coral]

SO many games. SO little time.

[timber prism]

For real... January - March is stacked with games haha

[quaint kiln]

Saw Palworld hit yet another peak today. Craaazy

[peak marsh]

Honestly it's better for the devs this way. It's still sold plenty and they don't have to deal with the massive microscope of being viral, they can just focus on the game

They're actually probably breathing a sigh of relief that Palworld dropped the way it did

[rugged siren]

it dropped, hit the ground running and hasn't stopped yet

[peak marsh]

If anyone here was there when Valheim went viral, it was complete chaos. I'm betting these devs are glad Palworld is getting all that attention

Owner estimates are still a little wild but depending on who you believe, it's probably fair to say Enshrouded sold at least 250k. That's plenty to keep development going and they have way fewer headaches to deal with

[sullen crane]

After a week and still strong

https://tenor.com/view/beyonce-beyonce-knowles-beyonce-dancing-beyonce-twerking-twerk-gif-11416394318519313030

[timber prism]

Adall hasn't popped in with his daily Palworld pop is dying to bless the peak players lately

[reef bobcat]

Is portal knights fun solo?

[thorn flume]

Seeing this in our server as well.

[rapid yoke]

Sorry one sec!

[tepid wadi]

Some of the best game devs I've worked with started out as randos just making mods and stuff. There's nothing better than intelligent, passionate, driven people.

[rapid yoke]

Palworld sees largest drop in concurrent players in a single day since release only a week ago:

Dead game for sure

[sullen crane]

Ofc u posting old stats

[rapid yoke]

I was asked to do my job and I delivered

[sullen crane]

[rapid yoke]

Wow down 600k already? insane

[sullen crane]

Can people not sleep

[rapid yoke]

no, they need to leave the game running in the background

[sullen crane]

Let’s post enshrouded player count lol

[rapid yoke]

I'm glad enshrouded isn't as popular as palworld, never expected it to be 🙂

Looks like it sold around exactly what I thought it would, even doing a bit better

[worthy wigeon]

Honestly I played Palworld for like 3 days, saw this on the store and jumped on it. I love it so far and there is so much in the game already. Its amazing

[peak marsh]

I'm glad that Palworld went viral when it did and dragged the cesspool of hype train riders away from Enshrouded

Also honestly glad for the people enjoying it

[tepid wadi]

There's definitely space for both games, they're pretty significantly different. Palworld is a fun collect-a-thon, Enshrouded is a fun action explore adventure.

[peak marsh]

Yep. Been saying that since the beginning. The survival games space is large enough for multiple successful games, and more options is always a good thing

[tepid wadi]

For sure. I personally like Enshrouded more because of the building system and the general feel of the game, but some of my friends are more attuned to Palworld and that's totally okay.

Enshrouded's map is going to be absolutely massive when they reach their goal size, and I'm stoked to be able to explore the whole thing.

[timber prism]

Ill be excited to explore once it isn't auto done by someone else playing on the same server

I logged into my friends server and a majority of it was already revealed

[timber prism]

I was hoping it would be higher since it was the top played demo at NEXT or whatever but I'm glad it isn't DOA

[rapid yoke]

As long as they generate enough sales to continue development until 1.0, then that is all that matters 🙂

[timber prism]

I just wish I knew of the issues before I pre-ordered a server XD

Transparency is important and I wish the devs at least commented about their designed feature

[peak marsh]

I mean, they did answer these questions weeks if not months before launch and not to be an 'I told you guys' guy, but I've been saying for weeks that people shouldn't expect dedicated to move at their pace, especially for large groups. Use dedicated for building Whiterun with your friends or rolling multiple skill builds or teaming up to 100% the things you couldn't get on your character in solo

Use smaller co-op or solo for exploring the world at your pace and doing all the quests etc

The way they explained it, it's a lot like Valheim, and I can't tell you how many times people were in that Discord complaining that they were working on their fishing village when someone from their group decided to run off and kill Moder and now they have dragon raids and they weren't ready. It's herding cats to coordinate even 4 - 8 people, let alone trying to get 16 to move at one speed

[waxen garnet]

As long as 1.0 isn't a year away or they do what fun pimps keep doing and holding it back.

[coral heron]

Lol

https://tenor.com/view/friends-friendstv-tvfriends-tv-friends-friends-tv-gif-8161576117338415912

if you have the will to get better you will get better!

[coral heron]

i Forgot to sleep last night

[waxen garnet]

But it's all stolen AI art so he's obviously not that good.

[coral heron]

https://tenor.com/view/will-smith-eating-spaghetti-will-smith-spaghetti-ai-gif-12546117032276153065

[timber prism]

Oh. I didn't see anything about them stating if you joined a server late all of it would be discovered already. If so, that is my fault for missing it

[peak marsh]

It was explained a few times in #the-tavern and #enshrouded-chat by Toast and CUB. Basically that world progression would be tied to that world. Discovered places, quests, NPC unlocks, etc. Players can still get the skill points from shroud roots etc individually but everything else would be entirely tied to the world itself

[timber prism]

Gotcha. Then that is my fault

If I knew I wouldn't have purchased the game and server

But that's on me

That is terrible game design imo

[peak marsh]

I mean, it's the same way Valheim worked. Valheim just had less to do

[timber prism]

Right. Which is also terrible game design

Again. Its my fault for not knowing if this was explained in videos etc

[peak marsh]

It wasn't, it was explained here in Discord

[timber prism]

Which is also terrible

[peak marsh]

It's just another one of those pieces of information people didn't focus on at the time because they all had their own expectations

That's why I've been beating that drum for the last few weeks, because I saw more and more people going in expecting this to work kind of like a "local MMO" when it's not

And I kind of expected this kind of backlash over it to happen

But it seems fine, they're taking the feedback and changing the way the systems work so hopefully everyone can get the game they hoped for

[timber prism]

Yeah. I glanced over the FAQ and none of it was mentioned

[peak marsh]

It's just, like, this is why you have to ask instead of assume. You have to see out the information or go in without expectations. Both Toast and CUB answered the question numerous times of how progression would work and how things were structured

[timber prism]

If its asked numerous times... you would think it would be in the FAQ

[peak marsh]

I'm sure they didn't put it in a text channel because they didn't think people would approach it this way, they probably figured most people would play it like Valheim, which is almost exactly how it's structured

Co-op survival adventure != MMO, they probably figured most people would assume it would be like Valheim, especially considering how often the two are compared

But especially over the few weeks leading up to launch, I found myself answering that question and seeing the mods answering the question more and more, the information was there

[timber prism]

Again. FAQ

Literally stands for frequently asked questions

[peak marsh]

It wasn't all that frequently asked, and it was only during the last couple weeks that it started to become a prevelant discussion from what I noticed

[timber prism]

But yeah. I could have searched for it prior

I overlooked it due to excitement about the game

[peak marsh]

Yeah. I mean take it for what it is, next time make sure before going in with assumptions. At least in this case, the game is being reworked to be more like what you were hoping for so it'll have a happy ending

[timber prism]

Yeah. I'll end up trying to the game out once its implemented for sure

[peak marsh]

But that's why we're seeing so much frothing and outrage in the channels from all the launch day people, everyone had their own assumptions about what the game was and dove in without asking the questions and doing the research

[timber prism]

I guess I should search to see if there is a timeline for it

[peak marsh]

I'm sure Toast or CUB would be happy to answer, but right now I wouldn't expect any kind of timelines, at least not for a week or so while they're putting out the bigger fires

Crashing and rakes disappearing and disconnects and various hardware incompatibilities and the whole 60hz thing

[tepid wadi]

The mods have given them a pretty good summary of the reasons why players are unhappy with it. I think partly they just didn't expect the shared progression to be such a hot topic, so I'm sure they'll be looking into ways they can address it sooner rather than later.

[timber prism]

Thanks for discussion! Ill just have my friends and I revisit in a few months and hopefully all of this stuff is resolved by then. Sorry to go off topic in this channel

[peak marsh]

Yeah. They were using Valheim as a model and probably expected a similiar reception

All good man, sorry you were disappointed but hey, at least you'll have it to look forward to ^^

[tepid wadi]

I think the way it works slightly different than valheim with how the shared progresison works is where the confusion/displeasure happens. Even with the bosses and raids in valheim it's a little easier to progress at your own pace. Plus in Valheim, the bosses don't despawn for hours, you can resummon them instantly if you missed out, so that affects player's perception of it too I think.

If the timer didn't reset on respawns when a player enters the chunk, and the timer was a bit (a lot?) shorter, I don't think it would be such a hot button issue.

[peak marsh]

Yeah, that's fair. Especially with the whole chunk restarting issue and having to quarantine the area in order to force a respawn. 2 hours is already a long time without it restarting if you go back to check a little too early

[tepid wadi]

Yeah, and that makes it feel way worse because it's harder to understand how it functions and easier to think that respawns don't happen at all

especially on a player-capped server

[peak marsh]

Yeah, I'm seeing a lot of people taking away that assumption and complaining about it here without checking #common-issues or #game-faq

All of which is why I decided early on I would do solo and find a dedicated with a group of builders once I was finished xD

Though it unintentionally explains the mechanics of how the flame altar works. It effectively just keeps an area loaded in memory so it doesn't have a chance to respawn/revert

I mean of course that's just my intuition but I'd hazard to say it's probably not far off base

(Flame altar. Base. Ha!)

[tepid wadi]

Yeah, in my experience, managing player expectations vs developer vision is one of the biggest challenges in game design.

Take the "crafting from chests" thing. It's easy as a dev to see that as a nice progression, where you unlock the carpenter to get the magic, craftable-from chests. But players see the intial chest that you can't craft from and are like "OMG no crafting from chests, trash game" and they don't look further to learn if it's a QOL thing they unlock later.

Ultimately is it fine? Yeah, you unlock crafting from chests pretty quick. But there's some faction of players that might quit because they assume the game lacks some core QOL they've come to expect from survival games

It's a challenging balance

[peak marsh]

Yeah, and all the muddier when you have fair points to be made on both sides. Devs want to reward progress, while players feel annoyed that QoL is being effectively time-gated. Neither argument is wrong but it's difference in approach. Personally I don't mind it, unlocking things feels good in these kinds of games, but I also understand the source of the annoyance

But that also comes into managing expectations, and I think the demo was a tad misleading in that regard since crafting from chests worked there out the gate, or at least from what I saw on streams

[tepid wadi]

Yeah, that definitely affected it as well. I don't think it'll hurt the game in the long term, especially with all the "10 things I wish I knew" style videos that get put out these days

[peak marsh]

Oh sure. People will come down from their expectation clouds and find out the reality isn't as bad as it seemed at first, and some things will be adjusted and life will go on

And hopefully the people who are disappointed today will go into their next EA a little wiser, ask a few more questions, and expect less in the onset and let the game be what the game is

[tepid wadi]

Yeah, Keen seems really interested in using EA to get player opinions to help make the game as good as it can be

Especially when the progression thing is the most upvoted https://enshrouded.featureupvote.com/ by 2.5x 😝

[peak marsh]

Yeah, I think I saw CUB mention the other day that it's one of the primary things they're looking at in terms of gameplay adjustments

Which I appreaciate, I mean this is the kind of thing EA is meant for

[tepid wadi]

Yeah, it's definitely an important one to them.

[reef bobcat]

1.0 and some fixes is all that matters imo

I do think they need to fix the optimization a bit tho...

[rapid yoke]

That's all part of it, so yeah

[tepid wadi]

Yeah, optimization will definitely be ongoing, the good news is that it's their own engine, so they're in full control of engine upgrades

[reef bobcat]

nice

[timber prism]

Why is it a QOL unlock to craft from chests though? That is a terrible design choice

[tepid wadi]

There's a little bit of game design theory that goes into it, the idea of friction in game design. A lot of games are about challenges and overcoming them, and that can exist in all aspects of the game. Especially in survival games, players tend to start with minimal tools to be able to accomplish tasks, and part of the progression for the game is getting the tools to overcome those tasks. You start out with crappy tools and it takes a long time to farm up wood, but as you progress you unlock better tools to chop down trees faster. You start out with a small inventory, but can craft upgrades to give you more carrying capacity, etc.

Crafting from chests follows that same idea, where to start out you have the hassle of organizing your chests manually and needing to grab resources from them to be able to craft things. Then when you unlock the magic chests, you can craft from them directly, making your storage management that much easier.

I'm not saying I necessarily agree that it's the best way to do things, but that's the theory. I think one of the reasons it feels so bad in Enshrouded was that it was a generic feature in the Demo that didn't require you to progress to a certain area, so it kind of feels like it's been taken away from you in the actual game.

The other part that's important is managing player expectations and giving them the actual tools to overcome the problems. The lack of crafting from chests is a problem with player expectations because they created the expectation of chest crafting in the demo, but then took it away in the EA release.

An example of failing to give players the tools is in Ark on the Sorched Earth map, there are Sandstorms that drain your health/stamina. There's no unlock in the game that allows you to actually go out in sandstorms, even at the late stages of the game. That makes you feel like every so often you just... can't play the game and it sucks.

That's why some QOL issues that feel good in some games, like chest crafting, might be intentionally left out of other games: for the purpose of creating friction for the player when managing their storage/inventory.

[timber prism]

I totally get the whole tiers for tools

but QoL like crafting from chests seems so different than that

[tepid wadi]

I mean, I agree that every survival game should have it, but I'm trying to give you an idea why not having it to start out could make it feel better when you do unlock it later.

[timber prism]

understandable

[tepid wadi]

TBH I'm also glad they have the "Store like items in chest" button. That makes chest management so much easier

[timber prism]

of course it will feel better... its like being able to drink water XD

i will infinitely feel better having the ability to drink water than not

i mostly like crafting from chests so I dont have to spend so much brain power knowing exactly what materials are where

when you have like 10+ chests lying around your base

[tepid wadi]

Totally

Fortunately unlocking the magic chests doesn't really take that long. AND you use the chests you were probably already using to craft them so you are unlikely to be wasting resources making them

[timber prism]

thats good haha

at least you aren't having useless chests at that point

[peak marsh]

Kinda similar to the concept of 'tension and release' in music, where you create tension in a piece by playing a disharmonious note as part of a progression, which creates tension in the listener, then 'releasing' that tension by resolving on a root note. Same core idea

The idea being that the 'release' adds satisfaction to the music, kind of like how the unlock 'releases' the friction placed on the player

[tepid wadi]

Yep, very similar. There are also discussions of pacing and stuff like that that we don't need to get to deep in, but one of the reasons why I think the magic chest is fine is that it's not super deep into the game that you get the unlock. If you're playing seriously, it's maybe 6 or so hours in (MUCH less if you know where to unlock it). But if it was like 50-100 hours in? That might be a real problem because you've frustrated the player for so long that the release just makes them angry.

Example: In Ark ASA, as soon as you craft the smithy, there's an option in the radial menu for "craft from nearby" or something that shows that it's possible to craft from nearby chests. But you don't actually unlock the ability to do that until you get the tek dedicated storage, which is unlocked after beating the 2nd to last boss

Understanding player cycles, game loop timelines and all that jazz is something I spend a lot of time thinking about 😝

[peak marsh]

Yeah, I feel like survival games in general suffer from that whole thing, where you unlock some extremely useful item or ability so late in the game that it's almost pointless, almost like the devs threw it in as an afterthought. V Rising has that in the paper press. If you haven't played, you need certain types of paper to unlock research to expand your tech tree. In that game, you unlock the ability to create it near end game and its so prohibitively expensive to use that it almost renders the entire thing pointless when you could just raid a few villages instead to find it

[tepid wadi]

Yeah, you can probably point to a few things from any survival game that feel out of whack like that.

[tender mortar]

FYI for anyone interested.

If you are currently using GPortal for cloud hosting both Palworld & Enshrouded..

You are better off running Enshrouded on GPortal.
And Palworld on a home server with 16GB+ RAM.

(Palworld)
GPortal server FPS was jumping between 5-20 FPS depending on load.
My home server is running 30-50 FPS.

GPortal doing some shady $hi# behind the scenes & also the netcode for Enshrouded is much more professional so it compensates for Gportals crap.

[tepid wadi]

You might want to put that in #server-support, probably more valuable there than here

[hot sinew]

Hello, does any one know how to delete whole character and progression on palworld g-portal server ??

[obtuse scroll]

Please go to the palworld discord and ask them, or contact a GPortal rep

[sullen crane]

Daily dose

[timber prism]

🥳

[dire forge]

and Enshrouded stats ?

[timber prism]

steadily climbing!

❤️

[delicate compass]

enshrouded is missing pokemons and guns I think

[sullen crane]

lol

Gotta appeal to the biggest markets

[reef bobcat]

enshrouded + palworld is the best survival game combo rn

ngl

[timber prism]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/378864835019931651/1200934257300865136/ssstwitter.com_1706369729773.mp4?ex=65c7fc2f&is=65b5872f&hm=3e47f7918c2f9b2f3976b143e45c902f7307e075ecd6ddf79f9215fe9ed9bd93&

[dusk bluff]

tbh I am not sure why people stick around so long for pal. the game gets so repetitive and grindy and theres like nothing to do end game lol

they made a artifical grind by locking everything behind ingots and making them take forever. it wouldn't be so bad if it wasn't bugged for the best miners, and if you didnt have to sit in your base and watch them. hopefully they fix these 2 bugs soon.

[tepid wadi]

Yeah the fact they don't mine the nodes when you're offline is unfortunate

[timber prism]

ingots dont take that long with lvl 4 kindling.. and you can just mine ore yourself super fast. There are tons of ore locations with like 5+ nodes by fast travel points and you can mine yourself like 100 ore runs every couple minutes

Def agree on wishing mining bases worked efficiently for passive ores

[dusk bluff]

they also barely mine if you are away from your base lol

[dusk bluff]

I mean if I wanted to do it myself I wouldn't be playing this game. whole point is getting the pals to do it for you. its fun setting up automation. not fun when one of the best aspects of the game is broken haha

[timber prism]

I agreed that it should work but its super easy to mine ore is all I'm saying

Beats sitting there and watching them

[dusk bluff]

I just used the boar and charged the nodes. I am done with the game for now was just making a observation.

i ran out of content so was kiling time by seeing what kinda automations i could setup

[timber prism]

You stated they take forever and it doesn't feel like it does... I can churn out 600 ingots with two furnaces pretty quick

So I just gave you a way where it wouldnt

[dusk bluff]

it does for passive

[timber prism]

I hope they get their automation system working as it hits 1.0

My biggest issue is that it doesn't work well at all with multiple levels

The pathing on pals is awful

[dusk bluff]

yes lol I have had so many get stuck inside rocks too

[timber prism]

Yeah. Then they starve themselves XD

[dusk bluff]

or they just sit there and do nothing. you throw them at their task and it says they can't do the task and they go back to just sitting there

[timber prism]

My list of complaints of that game is pretty huge haha

[dusk bluff]

dont get me started on flying either

[timber prism]

My favorite is when pals will just run off when they were helping you with a task

Mid task

[dusk bluff]

its basically useless 80% of the time

[dusk bluff]

yes let me go sit in the corner for 10 mins and wait for you to finish then slowly walk over right before you finsh to "help"

[timber prism]

Haha

They so CUTE thoooo

[dusk bluff]

nah ive just started butchering them anytime they glitch out like that

the beating will continue until moral improves

but anyways it was a fun 25-30 hours of content. hopefully they update soon.

[sullen crane]

I mean there’s a pal that mines ore faster for u

[golden token]

Guys does someone play enshrouded because he can’t login to palworld server? Like me for example🤣

I was playing on the official server and then after crashing the server won’t respond anymore so I gave up on palwold😅

[burnt mauve]

algum Br pra jogar ?

[timber prism]

The issue is that pals will bug out so their automation doesn't work properly so while in theory they should mine fast they actually don't due to bugs etc.

[shrewd surge]

I don't really understand why Enshrouded doesn't reach that level of buy in/fascination as Valheim when playing it

Valheim has too much grind and bad stuff, so I don't miss that in Enshrouded

I feel like Enshrouded is more like Zelda BotW (which couldn't keep me engaged) with the base building and crafting tacked on if that makes sense?

[timber prism]

The easy answer is perfect timing when Valheim came out

[shrewd surge]

I did replay Valheim this year and burned out after 140 hours

still really got me hooked

[timber prism]

Its a good game haha

[shrewd surge]

I think it's about chasing the next thing while struggling against the current biome, then overcoming it

plus you really have to think about base building because of the periodic attacks

hm, I think that's sorta it: progression is kinda decoupled from your base

and the big, fear inducing enemies like trolls or abominations

[timber prism]

yeah, i think if there is one comparison to make between the two there is like zero tension in this versus Valheim or even Palworld

it would be cool if they implemented base raids in the future for this game

[dusk bluff]

I love it when that person doesn't actually read what people say. Instead focuses on a few key words and immediately comes to Pal world's defense.

[karmic salmon]

im honestly not suprised ppl are arguing over palworld what did i expect to see in the "other games" channel

[dire forge]

funny graphic glitch

[viral comet]

Guys anyone know what the entrance to this is? Sorry they won’t let me post photos and the other one

[honest valley]

is it the one near starting area by the edge of the map?

[harsh oasis]

I think that's where one of the NPCs was in the Beta

[peak marsh]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tICDplSOJwY

Man, dev studios are dropping like flies

[livid violet]

I'm boldly goin'

[dusk bluff]

Where's @rapid yoke palworld dipped below 1m today and down 400k peak since yesterday xD

[versed widget]

I'm not a hater, however : When craftopia is in early access for four years and then their next game (Palworld) is in early access, there are signs in the clouds and they are big.

[dusk bluff]

Nothing wrong with being cautious. I play it but it has some glaring issues.

[versed widget]

I'm the type to investigate and then if I find something strange, I wait 6 months.
I bought enshrouded 4 times for me and my three friends 1 days after release (143.96$CAD + Tax), this show the level of trust I give to Keen Games

[wooden hatch]

||WE opened a similar locked temple yesterday. WE simply dug trough the door. Behind was a very small room with two skeletons sitting at a Dinner table.||

[dusk bluff]

I'm only playing since I already have game pass haha

[acoustic gulch]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1dcRqDhVVV8

any hype around here?

[quaint kiln]

Enshrouded is down bad too compared to yesterday 😬

[snow void]

i think yesterday majority of players peaked out, I.E hit lvl 25 and have all max gear

all thats left to do is build stuff

so kinda stale

[timber prism]

I saw this comment and had to look.. its not too bad.. still above 100k for a weekday

this though is crazy to me... 1.5 mill on a weekday a week after launch for a surival game is so awesome

[snow void]

im capped out but im still enjoying stock piling material and building

im just hoping that they release a road map of updates soon

as well as more NA servers available for rent

[timber prism]

im about 16 hours in myself for Enshrouded and just hit 50% into lvl 9 haha

i preordered a server on gportal for this very reason haha

[snow void]

i hit 44hrs lvl 25 all 5 god sets of armor and all 5 max weapons

[timber prism]

thats crazy haha

thats a lot of gaming!

how many tiers are in the game?

[snow void]

life of a cop man

i get 3 days off a week

i go crazy

[snow void]

armor tiers ? or material ?

[timber prism]

i just hit copper which i assume is like T2?

[snow void]

ahh

copper is t2 ye

after copper bronze

after bronze tin

after tin iron

iron is max

[timber prism]

does the map go all the way up to the vertical border?

[snow void]

surpising enough iron is way easier to farm than tin

[snow void]

no its cut off

[timber prism]

oooo

[snow void]

it goes horizontal tho

its cut off id say like 1/3 the way up

[timber prism]

oh... damn

thats like slightly above the Revelwood travel port T_T

i thought it would go higher up than that lmao

[snow void]

nah it goes a good bit above revelwood tp

now much igher

but deffo a good bit higher

[timber prism]

kk

[snow void]

you can also find obsidian

but no use for it as of now

I legit think my group was first group to find the one spawn it has on map

everyone was askin us to send ss lol

i leaked it yesterday

[timber prism]

haha awesome ^^

[peak marsh]

Enshrouded hit 1m sales in 4 days, proving my point all along that you don't need to be viral to be successful: https://estnn.com/enshrouded-hits-one-million-player-milestone/

[soft galleon]

Not a dig, just an observation: If you look at the peak times, it's heavily skewed towards Asia/East EU. (so 2pm UTC is late evening in their timezones)

Most games lose 50% concurrent pop within their first 3-4 weeks. Palworld loses it in a day due to where most of the players are located.

[timber prism]

for sure... that just goes to show how popular the game is Asia right?

[sullen crane]

https://blog.playstation.com/2024/01/29/state-of-play-returns-this-wednesday-2/

[timber prism]

Its like opposite here for Enshrouded.. if you look at the lows of Enshrouded.. its also dropping at a daily 50% or more

it hit an all time peak of 160k yesterday and dropped to 55k overnight

[soft galleon]

Yeah Enshrouded appears to have a more typical NA/western EU pattern