the-tavern

[quasi saffron]

Go on

[eager ravine]

HELLO

[signal ocean]

oi

[hollow ether]

Oi!

I drove to Montpillier in truck sim today. From Bremen.

[silk flume]

Not worth the blow back? Better to just let it slide off you 😉

[desert olive]

hey

[vital topaz]

I am not scared of the blowback 🤣 someone produced a big pile of dung and i made them aware of it. They have not done anything to fix it, so i am considering putting their nose in that pile 🤣

[silk flume]

ohhh .. that changes the story all together! A skill I acquired for those situations is to lean back and watch it burn .. sooner or later they will come back asking me to fix it, and then I got their (and usually their bosses) attention to actually change things so to avoid the same dung again 😅

PS: Wishing you lots of fun! 😉

[near breach]

Oi!

[mortal ridge]

Morning!

Me: Ah yes, let me just play for 30 minutes before leaving the house.
The game: *compiling shaders 2% in 5 minutes

[split schooner]

Shaders took me 6 minutes and 23 seconds this time

[abstract kiln]

it is pretty funny seeing the difference between my work pc and my personal pc. 15 threads vs 5 threads

[mortal ridge]

Damn, I wish

[carmine scroll]

i finally got a new pc.
went from 3 shaders to 15.

a patch used to mean "go do something else for an hour nad a half"

[quasi saffron]

But which one is faster.

[solid fjord]

2gb of udpate for 3 hotfixes

dang

and shaders compiling, of course

[patent dirge]

not enough, gimme all the cores

[mighty garnet]

my cpu with every update with shaders

[patent dirge]

I wonder why it doesnt fully utilize the CPU tho. I got another 16 cores for ya, game, come on, use em

[mighty garnet]

No im just low key good with 8 threads

[patent dirge]

I mean I'm hanging around in the main menu anyway, might aswell ramp up the CPU to 100%. I wouldnt mind. At it probably would be faster. 6 minutes isnt all that bad tho.

I feel for the people with less cores/threads and slower CPUs tho.

[plain cloak]

Good Morning beatiful people!

[mighty garnet]

im good with amd 7 7700 👌

Aight mine mine until level 35

[wintry tundra]

I logged in to no fire light lol, better restart, oh I've to compile shaders....

[novel rover]

what’s up guys! how’s the new update?

[wintry tundra]

it doesnt do anything but force us to compile shaders, they couldve waited

[mighty garnet]

i see no problem with the shaders thou

[wanton folio]

Not everyone would agree. My friend is so maddened at the desynch...

She'll be delighted it's fixed

[tame seal]

They wouldn't push a hotfix if it 'doesn't do anything' would they? 😄 It obviously does something, but not necessarily for every single person.

[wanton folio]

shader count down....

[red meteor]

Hello Keen Games, first of all, huge praise to all of you for this wonderful masterpiece. Now that we’ve received Update 8 from you and your major release is due this autumn, there’s one small thing that’s got me wondering. Will there be an Update 9 before the release? Because there’s still a 9 missing between 8 and 1.0! 😄

Best regards, Nachtkönig 🙂

[cursive brook]

They've said there isn't any intention for a 0.9

[split schooner]

I don't know, but I share your anxiety about the potential jump.

[carmine scroll]

why is there no 9?!

[zenith pewter]

Is there any truth to what I’ve been hearing about Valve putting pressure on game devs to better optimize their games? Has anyone else heard about this?

[patent dirge]

Don't pressure CUB about the versioning, I got shot for that

[zenith pewter]

What is CUB?

[patent dirge]

The blue Spikeball that is the Community Manager here

[split schooner]

our overlord

CUB rules these lands

all shall love him and despair

[zenith pewter]

Ha!

Well I’ll keep that in mind I guess but I am not applying and pressure to anyone just asking a question I heard about and was curious if it had any weight or truth behind it. Not trying to cause any strife with the CUB at all

I’ve been curious about the steam OS and all that new stuff that’s supposed to be coming soon

[split schooner]

Maybe games will better optimize when Valve/Steam stops forking with the multiplayer connections

[zenith pewter]

That was also in my mind as well

Like what are they playing here what’s their angle (Valve) steam

Is this too controversial? Maybe I should stop talking about it lmao

[split schooner]

multiple games are having issues when people are playing in the same room but gettin network lag because steam to routing traffic through them when it should be local IDK, it's messy.

[zenith pewter]

I love that you said “forking” btw that actually made me lol

[zenith pewter]

It does smell fishy

[split schooner]

yeah steam is being a forking shirthead bench

[zenith pewter]

Seems like they want complete control over everything and I think they will get it

You know how this game works

[patent dirge]

My answer was about the discussion above and not your question about the valve thing tho!

[split schooner]

worring about update 9 is pedantic, the steam thing is actually a realm problem

[wanton folio]

I have a customer in Australia who watches the Australlian dollar like a HAWK. she sent me partial payment on an item not due for months (and not expected by me) cause the AUS $ is .72 cents to the US dollar and she never wants to miss a spike lol

[split schooner]

( I am that pedant)

[wanton folio]

always cracks me up lol

[cursive brook]

Have you seen what they charge us here... (because they had to ship it here, even digital content)

Your customer is just smart

[zenith pewter]

Oh gotcha sorry misunderstood TY

[quasi saffron]

CUB(e) is the ruler of these lands

And I summoned thee

[signal ocean]

There will not be an update 9.
1.0 and "update 9" aren't sequential.
Our current version is 0.9.1.1 which is also revision 1018982.
We're at update 8, patch 14, hotfix 40, because versioning is a joke and numbers are made up.
All of the above is true.

[quasi saffron]

Can I have your serial number

[signal ocean]

idk about Valve applying pressure, from our point of view we're just applying our own pressure because game runs better = happier players = more word of mouth = more money to buy collectible Star Wars Panini images from 1978

https://tenor.com/view/pirates-of-the-caribbean-gif-21841403

[quasi saffron]

I've got some of these images CUBby.
Will only cost you silver and copper coins...

[zenith pewter]

Honestly that’s what I expected to hear from Keen you guys are great keep up the great work i know it’s hard work but as a player who loves your game thank you for loving your game as well! GG Keen!

[quasi saffron]

Y'know
One can farm all of these reactions with just simply saying stuff like:
Boar juice. 🐗 🧃
Coins.
Insert other community memes

[quasi saffron]

But what if I dislike the game but just like the people that make the game.

Does that make me the 3rd faction.

[zenith pewter]

That’s fair and you’re allowed to

[crimson salmon]

I just want to know if Keen Software is named after the 90s DOS games

they were so great

[quasi saffron]

I am joking though I love the game.
But they could improve in the coins department.
Nods fiercely.

[zenith pewter]

I personally like Enshrouded because it reminds me kinda what I had hoped for from EverQuest Landmark Next was trying to do . I so desperately wanted that game to be but never did

[zenith pewter]

I wonder did the devs take any inspiration from those when making enshrouded?

[zenith pewter]

I don’t understand your obsession with coins but I respect it you do you fox

[quasi saffron]

But... But coins...

https://tenor.com/view/wario-wario-world-nintendo-gamecube-coins-gif-13319584

[zenith pewter]

I know they’re shiny

[quasi saffron]

They make me happy.

[zenith pewter]

That’s what it all about

[quasi saffron]

Also because of a imprinted childhood with Yoshis Island, Super Mario and the Warioland series they're for me the embodiment of adventure.
You gather them. You earn them. You show them off to your friends as if they're your priced gems. You dive like a dolphin into them...

[red meteor]

Okay , thanks 🙂

[carmine scroll]

[carmine scroll]

that is actually very true

[tropic nest]

Hello there 👋🏻

[quasi saffron]

Who would've guessed they actually want to grow and thrive.

[quasi saffron]

Heya.

[zenith pewter]

Ah I see now that’s why I cannot relate because to me the adventure is not about the rewards (coins) but the journey, conquering goals, and the friends I made along the way that is the embodiment of adventure to me. But yeah coins are nice too 🙂

[carmine scroll]

youll never be satisfied.

[patent dirge]

Yeah we can't give him what he wants, what is he gonna be annoying about next?

[quasi saffron]

That's how I work and ever will.

[quasi saffron]

Coins are the friends we make along the way.
Because I rarely meet stranger in Enshrouded or only scripted AI.

[quasi saffron]

Wow. I was, too, annoying about the old rusty lamp posts and lanterns.
You guys are never grateful either.

[brittle vortex]

hello 👋

[quasi saffron]

Hiho

[brittle vortex]

I would like to know if there is a specific chat to know how to unlock lvl 25+ quests (those in the snow). I completed almost everything except the dungeon quests (those you unlock with specific keys) and I cannot get new ones...

[tough mica]

Hello guys, just bought the game. Is that normal to compil shaders every launch ?

[quasi saffron]

Did you lit all balefires and killed the dragon.
Did you take the head and Upgrade your Flame.

[brittle vortex]

Hello, I am new as well but I can already say that it is because of the recent update. Next launch should be ok

[quasi saffron]

Theres a way to deactivate Steam shaders caching every boot but don't nail me to it now. It's somewhere in the settings.

[pearl garden]

No just the first time and any time after an update of either your graphics drivers or possibly updates.

[tough mica]

Oh ok, there was an update on steam I notice this morning

[quasi saffron]

Also yes.
Every update shaders mostly anew.
If needed.

[tough mica]

thx guys

[brittle vortex]

A dragon I killed one in the pike.

I think my flame is lvl 6

[brittle vortex]

Next upgrade of the flame requires ingredient I cannot get where I am

[quasi saffron]

For example?

[brittle vortex]

Give me a second I launch the game

[quasi saffron]

Sorry, I am not right now able to Google all the info where I am

But if you're about the freezing areas, pocket heater, food, armor are the way to go and get the stuff you need.
Especially from Forge Obsidia.

[brittle vortex]

I need a cyclop head for example

[pearl garden]

You probably need to finish a quest or two and level up your character to unlock the area / biome that holds the item you need to upgrade your altar.

[brittle vortex]

That is a bit confusing not to have any hint in the game but thank you

I'll try to finish the quest line with dungeons that you can enter with keys

[pearl garden]

When I first started playing I realized that parts of the map were closed for me until I leveled up enough to unlock them.

Kill more shroud roots in the wells.

The elixer wells. It’s the fastest way to level up.

[brittle vortex]

I am lvl 26 I thought it was enough to go further

[pearl garden]

Maybe it is I don’t recall I started playing this game when it was first opened to EA and have maxed it all so now I mainly just build private mansions for myself.

I’m lvl 45

Check out my current masterpiece in shared worlds. Search on Coterie and take the tour.

[carmine scroll]

he already got what he wanted!
now he wants more!

[barren torrent]

Oi, gente. ☺♥

[patent dirge]

greedy lil fox

[wanton folio]

ok so I need a banker...which charcter looks like a banker....hmmmmm

I need him to be a loaner as I suspect they'll be locked in the bank teller booth FORRREEEVEEERRR

[patent dirge]

that weird guy with the high hat. Looks like a shady back alley banker that sells you bad loans.

[wanton folio]

:)))

[wanton folio]

I ended up picking Ramon

[steady bolt]

o/

[tough mica]

do you have a tip to avoid running back and forth and be able to teleport ? for exemple I walk a lot to a place, i am full inventory, need to disconnect but when i spawn i am back to my village ...

[noble anchor]

We generally do an altar per biome set in strategic locations to get to things quickly.

[signal ocean]

but also once you've unlocked the spire in a given area you can teleport back to the top of it

[pseudo gyro]

Hello, has anyone's wand or staff attack effects disappeared?

[signal ocean]

have your shaders fully compiled before you got into the game?

[pseudo gyro]

Oh, in progress, only 30% ^^" ty!

[signal ocean]

they'll compile a lot quicker if you sit in the menu and go do something else for a little bit

like, a lot quicker

[pseudo gyro]

good to know! 🙂

[woeful gyro]

helllo

[undone kite]

Hugo's a librarian, the only paper he cares about are his books

I know Cade is the Carpenter, but the way he goes on and on about gold coins when we first discover them...

[plain cloak]

how is going today?

[pliant quarry]

I'm doing aight, how are you guys

[plain cloak]

a little bit better today , waiting for the shaders at the moment 😄

[torpid wedge]

Enshrouded Team - can you guys PLEASE do the compiling of the shaders on your end before you push updates?
I had limited time to play today, but then you push an update and now I gotta recompile all my shaders. It's taking a long time.

Or have a pre-launch option that says, "Hey, before you launch this game, we have an update." Run the compiler outside the game 100% for even more speed.

I mean something. Why do we even have to compile the shaders?
I'm not a game design expert, but I usually thought when you compile the final runtime, that compiles the shaders into everything. Shipping the compiled shaders would really make the game that much bigger?

Please help me understand why we have to compile the shaders and why it takes so long every time? Can't you just not update some of them?

[pliant quarry]

Compiling shaders is a very normal part of modern games, it's done for performance reasons, compiling them all up front to avoid performance issues. They reason you didn't see this in older games was simply because there weren't as many shaders and they weren't as complex.

That said, yes, we know that our shader compiling times can be really long, which is especially frustrating around updates. A big priority for us is trying to speed up those compiling times, especially before 1.0.

[plain cloak]

why since some year ago this compiling shader was not necessary for games and now every games is needed?

[static reef]

from what I understand, compiling of shaders is dependent on the individual PC, simply updating your graphics card driver triggers another compile of shaders. it's not just updating the game that causes it.
an option to "compile shaders faster" would be nice...
if loading into the game makes compiling shaders slower...
could we load a black screen menu, where our character isn't being rendered, to compile shaders faster? 🤔

[pliant quarry]

Good graphics sells, shaders have become a lot more intensive and complex because they make games look really good. Shaders used to be compiled in real time because they were simple enough that that was viable, but at this point trying to do that on consumer hardware runs into a lot of bugs and performance issues (which you can see in Enshrouded for example, if you try to play the game before shaders are done compiling).

[noble anchor]

The game developers can't compile the shaders for you ahead of time because the compilation depends on your hardware and drivers. The compilation is for your system specifically and can't be done outside of your system.

[torpid wedge]

That's exactly what I was thinking.

[tame seal]

Things that look pretty take more effort ^^

[plain cloak]

like DLSS and ray tracing is the cause of the compiling shaders?

[torpid wedge]

Ah, that makes sense.

[pliant quarry]

No shaders are a different thing entirely

[plain cloak]

ah okay

[torpid wedge]

Well, it sounds like this is one of those things where you just have to go outside and shake your fist at some clouds.

[undone kite]

Like, the trail after you swing a weapon? a shader.

[plain cloak]

i'm lucky i got a good pc so it take like a couple of minute

[tame seal]

Wand projectiles? A shader.

[static reef]

I kinda wanna see what Enshrouded would look like "with no shaders" now

[signal ocean]

this is also dependent on how many threads your pc can assign to the task. Some people report the thing takes 5 minutes tops for them

[plain cloak]

all the light effect also is a shader?

[signal ocean]

it's easy just launch the game without letting it compile

[static reef]

it'll compile slowly, I want 0 shaders, not 0.1 shaders!

mostly for the curiosity of "...what does it look like? "

[noble anchor]

My compilation was cut in half going from a i9 11900k to an i9 14900k.

[pliant quarry]

A lot of visual effects would be missing and a light of lighting/textures/etc. would be broken

[wet sun]

Is the hotfix 23 GB for everyone?

[static reef]

would the sun still work

[undone kite]

I booted into the game before the shaders were done one time and the Flame at my altar straight up wasn't there

[pliant quarry]

No it should be about 1.9gb or so, if your steam is displaying that it's probably because steam is verifying files (steam displays this as a "download" for some reason, even though it's not)

[plain cloak]

because i think that enshrouded without mod is one of the best game for light! it would be amazing to see any crazy modder with ultra quality texture like the one for cyberpunk77

[wet sun]

[signal ocean]

23GB what the hell is happening there

[pliant quarry]

If it's file verification it should go much faster than a normal download would

[plain cloak]

23gb of hotfix mean they remake the game from scratch XD

[static reef]

there's a chance they just haven't updated in a while

[tame seal]

Steam is happening.

[noble anchor]

It probably is repatching the whole game.

[wet sun]

Unfortunately, it's not like file verification. It downloads 23 GB. anyway

https://klipy.com/gifs/cat-leaf-1--k01KQZ0YKPZJ9A05PHV5YS6RZMT

[noble anchor]

Are you sure? There's 2 lines- 1 for the download and one for the patching.

[pliant quarry]

Hmm not sure then, something on steam's end, or you haven't updated in a while

but the update is 1.9gb ish

steam is really weird like that sometimes

[wet sun]

It was showing 1.9 at first, then it went up to 23. We'll wait and see.

[zenith pewter]

I just go out on my back porch and talk to the birbs while I wait for shaders and before I know it they tell me it’s done 🙂

[static reef]

probably patching 23gb after downloading 1.9gb

[plain cloak]

oh now the water is not acting weird anymore,nice one!

[static reef]

I will be the judge of that

[wet sun]

https://klipy.com/gifs/meme-american-psycho-2--k01KQZ16NNYQFJC60BKFD4NC85X

[noble anchor]

Okay, it downloaded 1.9GB and it's patching into the 23GB install. It's not downloading and installing 23GB.

This is normal.

[plain cloak]

The game is scared of you!

[static reef]

once this thing patches... and compiles shaders... and after I get chores done... okay there's a lot to do today

but once I have done it, I will test water again!

...and finish my zelda map ocean

[zenith pewter]

Fork those chores you got games to play 🙂

[plain cloak]

Oops, the sharks have broken free from their cages

[static reef]

someones coming over to help me with the chores so :P

speaking of which, they should literally be here right now, so gtg, ttyl everyone

[plain cloak]

i'm too far 😌

there is any reason why the scale of the rake is 0.3 , 0.7 and 1 ? 0.5 was perfect size!

[waxen valley]

ive noticed some items arent on the wiki just yet. is there somewhere else that has a more updated list

[patent dirge]

Next time I get a grip on Q in here I'm gonna ask him why the threads top out at 15 instead of 30 on my 16c/32t CPU. I just wanna know if that's a decision or a windows/amd task scheduler thing

[meager notch]

When I read patch notes I had hopes that it will fix bad performance around bittermelt lake since big lakes were mentioned and I have flame near but still the same.

[fringe delta]

Anyone else experiencing not being able to play with friends ? We keep getting error

[halcyon vector]

Has there been any word on potentially updating the character creation? Like additional faces, or body types?

[short violet]

hey everyone

[mortal ridge]

What did the water do?

[plain cloak]

@static reef How do I create a cylindrical shape? Like a silo

[static reef]

there's like... 3 or 4 ways to do that

[plain cloak]

has stopped doing strange things

[mortal ridge]

yeah I mean which strange things haha

[static reef]

the easiest is to just do it pixely with blocks.
or you could make a silo out of terrain, but it will be... ya know, terrain...
or props

[static reef]

#creative-corner message I will be the judge of that!!!

[digital raft]

wow compiling shaders is taking a lot now....it used to be done in a minute.... now 2 and counting

[plain cloak]

was acting weird sometime, i don't know the correcct word for it but it was like the wave was all over the place

[mortal ridge]

I think it is because this patch update is quite an invasive one on the graphics etc.

[mortal ridge]

Very strange..

[digital raft]

jeeetje ik ben bang dan

[mortal ridge]

DUTCHIE

[plain cloak]

like the post of @static reef i don't know how to describe lol

[mortal ridge]

Strange water describes it pretty accurately lol

[plain cloak]

i need a long silo cut in half lol

[mortal ridge]

step 1: build the long one.
step 2: cut in half

[static reef]

like... cut in half verticle? so a half-pipe?

[plain cloak]

lying flat on the ground, stretched out halfway

[digital raft]

so, compiling shaders went from a bit less than 1 minute, to exactly 6 now .... lets see!

[mortal ridge]

I just realised, why it is called half-pipe..

[mortal ridge]

It took me more than 15 minutes, good luck

[plain cloak]

If it's not standing upright, it must be laid on its side

[static reef]

I wish I had a picture of what you're trying to make/where you're putting it, even if it was a cheap MS paint "this is what I want" lol

[plain cloak]

can i send you a dm?

oh i know how 😱 big coffin lid

[mortal ridge]

Big coffin lids to the rescure

[static reef]

lol, that would also work, props are good

[mortal ridge]

rescue*

[static reef]

quite often people use the shelves and tables for walls

[mortal ridge]

Yeah, I use them for so many things. Bridges mostly

[plain cloak]

has to be similar not 100% accurate so it's okay

[pulsar flume]

anyone having trouble looting things? search piles just break and disapear for me showing no loot, i kick the chests open and they just close showing no loot, areas ive never been to before

[plain cloak]

is normal 2H slow chat in #screenshots-and-art ?

@static reef i answer here, so yes nice idea i didn't though about it!

[tame seal]

Yes that's normal.

[static reef]

even Tavern get's "slow mode" every once inna while :P

[tame seal]

To dissuade conversation so screenshots etc don't get lost so easily ^^

[static reef]

aka around updates

[mortal ridge]

Is it normal that I still experience some delay in the sound/animation with mining? It is definitely a lot better than it was before todays patch update though, but still some delay

[tame seal]

If you do, then i'd suggest submitting a bug report with F1/esc menu.

[mortal ridge]

Will do! 🙂

[tame seal]

It shouldn't be normal, but there's little chance of knowing how much/if it's still a problem when the patch to fix it has only been out a short while ^^

[mortal ridge]

I think it is the same as before update 8, with a small delay, but after update 8 it became rediculously bad. Now it is.. okay

I will add a video to the bug report 🙂

[quasi saffron]

Good that I am a evasive little bugger.
Not reported since 2024.

[mortal ridge]

Can I report you personally?

[patent dirge]

Yeah I'm in on this

[mortal ridge]

Can we do a collective report to make more impact?

[quasi saffron]

[mortal ridge]

*patpat

[plain cloak]

@static reef thank you for your advice, it's look very good!

[static reef]

glad I was able to help

[oak wharf]

Hey guys, I’ve got a question and hope you can help me out. I have a server with some friends, but the problem is the person who created it barely ever logs in, while the rest of us are active pretty often. Is there any way for someone else to take over the server or transfer ownership to another person without having to buy a new one? I’m asking in case there’s an option for that—if not, I guess I’d have to get a new one. Hope someone can clear that up for me.

[static reef]

there... might be... but this leads to a new question, the "server owner" isn't on often, are they even hosting a server or just hosting a local game?

[oblique berry]

Either host a game yourself or get your own dedicated server saves you from the headache

[brisk scroll]

Had a stroke reading the hotfix lol

[plain cloak]

why?

[pliant quarry]

[cunning narwhal]

it probably has been frequently asked but
have the devs ever said anything about mod support

[tame seal]

Probably the most recent mention. #the-tavern message

[pliant quarry]

Yeah, pretty much the same. We love modders, we have nothing against mod support, but because the game is built in a custom engine we would have to build all mod support and modding tools completely from scratch, it would be quite a big undertaking, and right now it makes more sense to put that dev time into other things. Also it adds a lot of complexity to updates, having to make sure our updates don't break modding/mod support, and during the early access journey it made more sense to just not think about that right now to speed up our ability to add new content.

[cunning narwhal]

Ahhh! I see! Very cool though that it is at least in mind for the future.
Yeah, I think focusing on the bones and filling everything out first is the best route ;v;

[elfin fox]

I am having trouble getting to a last flame shrine in the Nomad Highlands. It is SW of the Nomad Highlands and looks like it is down a huge hole that leads down into the shroud, far below the upper grasslands area

[rich ore]

Hi please add transparent glass blocks okay thanks xD

[elfin fox]

Anyone seen this area and know how to get to it?

[pliant quarry]

We want to at some point but it's one of those things that seems way easier to implement than it actually is lol

Currently our engine does not have any transparent block shaders

[rich ore]

OOOOO OMGGG YAASSSS

[rich ore]

okay so I have no technical skills but could you use the water texture?

[pliant quarry]

Nah it's kind of a different thing

[rich ore]

Fair enough

I would be sooo cool. I absolutely love this game!

[rich ore]

I have 537 hours so far xD

[pliant quarry]

That's awesome! I'm glad you've had so much fun in our game

[static reef]

#creative-corner message
I am very aware

[uneven nexus]

hello

[rich ore]

I really have, I really do believe its a game changer type game haha

[pliant quarry]

Yeah, it's not something that would be impossible by any means. If we put our entire team on it we could obviously add glass blocks lol. It's just one of those things that has a higher development time cost than people would probably expect, and right now development time is something we're having to manage very tightly

[rich ore]

well start a gofundme and me and my friends will donate xD

[static reef]

whaaaat? time constraints?
but I need so many things!
horses
sonic the hedgehog grind shoes
dirt bike
super drill
tanks
metal gears, the giant robots not gears that are metal

[pliant quarry]

Half of that list is a completely different setting than the enshrouded universe lol

[static reef]

over half the list, the only thing that isn't is horses, lol

[hexed furnace]

Ok what's going on yall why are my sound fx all delayed after that update today this is GRRRRRRRR

[static reef]

although if you wanna try to convince the devs to add the sonic the hedgehog soap shoes, I will be very confused about it :D

[rich ore]

I would love to get into game development because of this game

[junior zenith]

Hey, is it normal for compiling shaders to take so long and is it required after every update?

[carmine scroll]

its not the end of the world if we dont get glass.

[rich ore]

its always taken long for me and I think Ive always need to compile after each update

[carmine scroll]

we didnt even need water. 😛

[rich ore]

its the end of my world with no water D:

I meant glass lol

[hexed furnace]

I dont understand why my sound fx are delayed now, this is nonsense, wish you guys would test before rolling stuff out

[plain cloak]

@pliant quarry If I may ask, why didn't you use something like Unreal Engine 4 instead of building one from scratch? you i mean the Keen studio

[rich ore]

Im sure they do but shit happens lol

[junior zenith]

Ta, at least I know it's not a problem my end I suppose

[hexed furnace]

It was fine yesterday, now everything is fukt

[rich ore]

maybe restart and verify game files

[hexed furnace]

And we didn't even get any notes, what was that earlier?

[rich ore]

I believe its because we can now favourite building blocks

[hexed furnace]

Patch notes would be nice

[plain cloak]

there is a patch note lol

[rich ore]

oh yeah there is a patch note lol

[plain cloak]

https://steamcommunity.com/games/1203620/announcements/detail/702141807556821041

[carmine scroll]

#patch-notes

[rich ore]

Changelog for Hotfix #40 v.0.9.1.1
The revision of Hotfix #40 is 1018982

Changelog:
The mining sync and got mining out of easily sync, which is now fixed. Sorry, we fixed the mining animation and mining sound breaking and getting out of sync. There, better!

Bases that were built near large lakes could experience extreme rubberbanding and performance issues, which are now fixed.

Improved crash detection to help us diagnose and fix future issues.

now you can stop being a grumposaurus rex

[pliant quarry]

Steam is really bad at delivering small patches/hotfixes for some reason. Whatever weird algorithm they use just like... doesn't show it to the user sometimes. The same issue doesn't seem to happen with major updates, but obviously we're not gonna label a hotfix a major update.

But yeah, we shared the hotfix everywhere we always share them.

[plain cloak]

but i can confirm that the mining still unsynch *****

[mortal ridge]

Same for me

[dry dove]

i see the hotfix changelog on steam it is underneath the featured one it is wierd steam doesnt put it above that

[hexed furnace]

No, because they traded the mining fix for a bunch of other sound fx that are now not syncing up, like jumping, landing, glider opening, etc

[dry dove]

but i can see how it might go unseen becasue of that

[rich ore]

I did say to restart and verify game files to see if that helps

[pliant quarry]

Can anyone else confirm if they're having sound desync issues after the hotfix? Otherwise I'll have to bother Jaime for their log files I think

[hexed furnace]

Just restarted, now re-verifying again, we will see

[dry dove]

server or singleplayer?

[pliant quarry]

Let me know if it keeps happening

[mortal ridge]

I have the same issue. I sent in a bug report with video, logs and pc info

[rich ore]

mine is fine

[junior zenith]

I've only been playing a few days and dunno if you have a specific place for feedback but this whole compiling shaders bit needs looking at as a priority IMHO, very offputting.

[carmine scroll]

my perfectly silent fans get LOUD with shaders lol

[pliant quarry]

Do you happen to know your ticket number? Otherwise if you wouldn't mind sending me the files in my DMs that would be great. Our support team will see the ticket eventually but we have a tiny support team and we get a loooot of tickets submitted, so it takes them a long time to get through them

[rich ore]

I kinda see it as this game is still in early access and they are probably aware of this. I mean tbf its nowhere near as shit as COD xD

[cunning narwhal]

hear me out
instead of horses
giant deercat mounts

[carmine scroll]

no, tigers.

[hexed furnace]

I want a blitzball weapon so I can rp wakka

[mortal ridge]

It says inquiry #113977 in the e-mail, is that the ticket number? 🙂

[dry dove]

after they add a third goat that is rideable

[mortal ridge]

I can send more videos if needed. I filmed during the night, but it should be visible

[pliant quarry]

We agree, lowering shader compilation time is a big priority for us for 1.0. Also part of early access is just that... we are pushing a lot of hotfixes/patches. We will likely push them less frequently after 1.0.

[cunning narwhal]

https://tenor.com/view/bornskywalker-dap-me-up-woody-woody-handshake-woody-toy-story-gif-26021440

[pliant quarry]

I believe so, yeah. Let me check

[cunning narwhal]

i like tigers

[cunning narwhal]

also goats

[dry dove]

yeah cant forget pet sabretooths

[mortal ridge]

Let me know if you need more info 🙂 I am adventuring right now with a friend, so might reply a bit late

[rich ore]

Thanks for chatting btw 😄 can I DM you about the game?

[pliant quarry]

Sure, my DMs are open

[ancient magnet]

at least it onyl does it once per patch/driver update.

couple of games ive played it was bugged and did it every time without being able to skip it

[pliant quarry]

Is the issue only mining sfx, or are other sounds doing it as well?

[mortal ridge]

So far I only noticed it with mining. I will keep an eye out

[rich ore]

Thank you

[plain cloak]

personally for now only mining

[mortal ridge]

Btw, it is not always, like right now it works fine. it is occassionally

[pliant quarry]

Ah, you're having it too?

[plain cloak]

yep

[pliant quarry]

Keep an eye out for any patterns of when it happens, it might help us reproduce it. It seems like it doesn't happen to everyone 100% of the time. I assume you're playing on a multiplayer server?

[dry dove]

if you can reproduce a bug you have won the bug report

[mortal ridge]

I will keep an eye out. 🙂 I am playing on a paid dedicated server. But before I was hosting the server (before update 8, I had similar issues)

[plain cloak]

I'm playing on local

[pliant quarry]

And this only started happening after the hotfix? If you don't mind sending me your log file as well that might help

[plain cloak]

well i had the issue since the update 8, since the new animation mining

[pliant quarry]

ah okay

I see, you've both been having this for a while, I thought it started with the hotfix like the first person said

[plain cloak]

it's seems like the animation is too fast

sec i can send you the log i need to remember the location of it

do i need to close the game to send you or can be opened?

[mortal ridge]

Nope, sadly I had it before, but it got waaay worse after update 8

[pliant quarry]

You need to close the game to generate a new file, but if it's always happening then any of the logs would be fine

As long as it happened in that session

[brittle vale]

Hello there

[hexed furnace]

@pliant quarry restarted, verified, still have the m@%%&#^#% audio lag, UGHGHGHGHGHGH this is unbearable i cant

For me its sword attack, double jump, glider and others. Like a whole 2 or 3 second delay at times

[lime vapor]

Any advice for keeping animals in their pens?

[plain cloak]

i hate my self and my new ideas...

at this rate i will finish the project NIER when Enshrouded galaxy DLC 8.0 will be release in 2034

[dry dove]

if you put them in a box inside the pen they will never escape again

xD

y'kno a storage chest

[lime vapor]

really?

that's crazy, I never would have thought of that.

[dry dove]

its a joke that was meant to be obvious because they seemingly escape everything else 😛

[lime vapor]

Oh rofl, I thought there was some line of code somewhere that kept them in the vicinity of the box

[dry dove]

i would try thicker walls and floors

if that is an option, im not sure if it will help

[lime vapor]

right now I just dumped them all in a pit, but I feel guilty.

[dry dove]

but my 1x thick walls aren't keeping them in

[lime vapor]

Like "it puts the lotion on the skin" vibes

[brittle vale]

I had to use stone fences along the inside walls of the 'pens' I built. And had to use a stone floor. That kept them from sinking or warping through the walls

[turbid elk]

hi guys

[lime vapor]

bunny wabbit

[turbid elk]

[finite topaz]

hello

[wise shoal]

Hiiii

[north plume]

hi ppl

[robust solar]

Hi 👋

[hybrid oak]

Hi there

[kind jolt]

Hi

[hollow ether]

My wife's mining audio was out of sync.

[stark kite]

hi

[viral scarab]

This should be fixed with the latest patch

[hollow ether]

This is after the latest patch.

[mild thorn]

yo guys, if i transfer onto a new server doo i need to start from scratch

'

[mighty garnet]

how to fix dumb ass yaks pressing on the wall and bugging everywhere?

[sweet solar]

In co-op, does the game progress like Valheim, as in you can't really chill and progress as you wish?

A boss unlocks new materials/tiers of progression, so they need to wait for everyone to be here to do it?

[brazen briar]

The Shrouded content specifically is Boss gated.

Which does cut u off from quite of bit of progression, but there's alot u can do regardless of that fact.

It's quite open ended. But this game is a very bad game for playing that way imo.

It is far better to work on content at ur level and treat it like an linear "open-world" gamr.

[subtle cloud]

Is there a schedule to the updates? It is getting a bit tedious having a player in my group text me to tell me the server is out of date. Would be nice if the server could auto-update.

[neat minnow]

[hollow ether]

Greetings, Flameborn and Flameburnt.

[split schooner]

Flameburntout

[timid vale]

Hi all 😀👏

[neat minnow]

Patch did't fix the Desync...

[upper glacier]

nice patch now 50 mins for shaders why not try fixing these shaders to stop having to load them every time you patch / change something how long will this go on ... its the only game that has this ||shit|| show its a joke

[subtle prawn]

Shaders are Hardware dependant and literally every new game compiles shaders

[quiet cedar]

every game has to load shaders, most just do it during gameplay which results in lag/stutters or requiring loading screens

there's nothing actually stopping you from playing while it loads them, it just takes longer

[upper glacier]

yea i get that but its normally only once not everytime they patch or hotfix this been going on since launch

i dont have to reload shaders on any other game when a hotfix update happens just enshrouded

[subtle prawn]

But you do have to do it, you may just not notice it

[quiet cedar]

most games do it everytime you play the game, Enshrouded does it once so loading times can be as quick as they are for a voxel game as demanding as it is

other games are quicker about it so they can get away with doing it on the fly

[upper glacier]

fair enough a major update but having to reload shaders for a couple of mb hotfix is bad why not save the shaders like any other game

[subtle prawn]

The shaders are still changed just like when you update your driver

[violet socket]

Resource Server

Need items for your new build, or resources to craft or fight that boss? Look no further than The Shroud Depot, a community run server that resets every hour on the hour.

Shroud Depot Resource World
In-game server IP: enshrouded.gv80.me:15639

[patent dirge]

Good Morning ☕

[latent folio]

Hi all!

[hollow mesa]

:3

[upper glacier]

good morning ^

[quasi saffron]

Morning.

[neat minnow]

Hallow Halls still broken too... can't progress through barrier because there's no rune keepers.

guess I'll just go play something else 😕

[winter pier]

come join me for hallow halls

[lone lodge]

any chance they will add functional pets?
I hate having to pick up stuff while grinding woord or whatever

[vital topaz]

Good morning

[lone lodge]

morning 🙂

[vital topaz]

Pretty sure there is a similar suggestion somewhere in here:

[violet socket]

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• Please search for your suggestion before submitting to avoid duplicates.

Suggestions may be open/closed at any time to review backlogs.

• Upvote suggestions you like to increase their chances of being implemented.

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[vital topaz]

Might be something like the npcs doing the farming though🤔

[lone lodge]

ty! i will check that out

[lone lodge]

not really, you still have to do the work, it just gets picked up thats all

sometimes its so dark you can't see anything, or there is stuff everywere and some things go lost

etc

[mighty garnet]

HOW THE FKIN WAY TO FIX YAKS?? FKIN TRASH ANIMALS ALWAYS CLIPPING AND WONT STAY cant FARM shit

[slender lantern]

Honestly better off loot running than trying to deal with the animal AI at this point 😅

My dog hasn't escaped the pit this time yet... but still trying to clip through the walls

[hollow ether]

Inside voice. Grandma is trying to finish this Shroud Lair.

[signal ocean]

good morning

[plain cloak]

Morning,i need some coffee 🥱

Oh finally steam progress on my steam controller! Can't wait to try it with enshrouded as well!

[signal ocean]

and by progress you mean shipping?

I think I've held an old one a few times but I've never really played with it

[hexed furnace]

Hoping another patch comes soon bc my game is unplayable as of right now. I'm just trying to play my game 😭 trying to heal up from 3 surgeries over here n now im just laying here trying to figure out something else to play while yall fix it

Is there an option to like... roll back the version or something? Could that be a thing in the future? Bc yo this really sucks. I already went and bought an ssd specifically for this game (bc the last time it stopped working right and has delayed sound fx and I came here and was told it's my drive, yet here we r again?) and it's like... am I going to be able to keep playing it? I just got to the frickin kindlewastes and now I have to go find something else to do

[hollow ether]

Was anyone expecting major changes to terrain with this patch? We have an altar high in the east right at the edge of the playable area that is now a floating 40x40 block of rock in mid-air surrounded by ugly sheer limestone cliffs.

[plain cloak]

Yes, finally is packed !

[plain cloak]

What's your issue if i can ask?

[hexed furnace]

All the game sound fx are delayed, my equipment (sword, grappling hook, etc) graphics keep disappearing, same with menu items

Im hosting a game rn too so my friends cant play either, we r all sitting around like... well now what

[hexed furnace]

☝️

[plain cloak]

Have you tried to clear the GPU driver with DDU and make a fresh install of the driver?
Is windows up to date?

[hexed furnace]

Look

I shouldn't have to do maintenance on this game when it was working just fine

Im tired

Im not a tech

Im just a gamer

No other steam game has taken so much of my time trying to fix it as this one has already, like I said I went and bought a freakin drive just so I could keep trying to play it

Windows 10 doesnt update

[plain cloak]

I'm not a F1 driver but i need to add oil on my car if i don't want to blow up...
It's a Early access game, game still in development and can happen that is not perfectly optimized right now.. so the best i can suggest is keep your pc up to date and clean..

[hexed furnace]

Hey maybe be helpful instead of patronizing

I have a ryzen 9 ffs this is silly ur telling me its my pc

I have this problem w 0 other games

🤷‍♀️

[slender lantern]

He gave you a suggestion - you just moaned.

People are playing the game just fine, so it's not some universal game issue that the devs need to fix - it's potentially an issue with your machine

[hexed furnace]

Ok

Thanks for wasting my time. Just trying to play this stupid game and yall keep making it so I cant

Like telling ppl its not a bad mix its just their speakers

[slender lantern]

Yes... we're the problem... 🙄

[hexed furnace]

Yea

Bc my shit worked fine before

It worked great

[hollow ether]

Sometimes it IS their speakers.

[slender lantern]

Well I've been playing just fine 🙂

[hexed furnace]

Yeah good

Good for u @slender lantern

👍

[slender lantern]

I know 🙂

[hollow ether]

I've had no troubles either. Maybe it's cause I use Linux.

[hexed furnace]

Im just saying I wish yall would test this before screwing people over and making it so one day they can play and the next day they cant

And then turning around and saying its my own problem

[hollow ether]

For one out of a hundred people? Really?

[hexed furnace]

Yeah

[plain cloak]

I was trying to give you some advice, and also you are writing in the wrong channel, maybe #troubleshooting is more helpful

[hexed furnace]

I am tired of troubleshooting. But for real though, telling people its their system when yall need to optimize is just weak, not what people want to hear after falling in love w your game and investing time into it

Hope yall get it fixed

[hollow ether]

First off, I'm not a dev, so I can't fix shit. Second if YOU are the only one in the room having trouble, statistics suggest YOU are the one with the problem.

[hexed furnace]

You need to be quiet if ur not a dev bc i wasn't talking to you

[signal ocean]

honest question: are you interested in helping us help you or do you just want to get it off your chest? You're welcome to do either or both but from where we're standing it's hard to tell which is which and we won't be able to help without asking more questions

[hexed furnace]

Im pissed and for good reason

[signal ocean]

that only partially answers the question

[still pagoda]

https://tenor.com/view/michael-jackson-comendo-picoca-gif-9669437860846841235

[hollow ether]

CUB IS a dev, by the by.

[hexed furnace]

Im just someone who wanted to finish a game without having to stop every ten levels and either troubleshoot or buy new hardware

[signal ocean]

which is fair

[hexed furnace]

I will just try back next update. Til then, ??? Idk what ima play but ima be mad at yall

Tired of dark souls

[signal ocean]

would you mind helping us (dev team) get a better understanding of how the issue might still be occurring on your computer? A few months back there were many more occurrences of this, every like 5th post would be about delayed vfx/sfx

but since the latest update I think you're the first one I come across, which means that there's something else about your setup that our game doesn't play nice with

I would really like to find out what that is and pass it over to the team so they can take the problem out back and troubleshoot it

[still pagoda]

maybe just play the game on mute, the game is still the game you love and enjoy , just minus the sound now! hope this helps!!

[hexed furnace]

There was another person here earlier w the same problem that Toast was helping

[hexed furnace]

Great suggestion, super immersive 🙃

[signal ocean]

lemme look up his messages to see who he was talking to and if they gave any deets

[hexed furnace]

If u need anything from me, dm me, im going to get some rest for now but I'll be back tmrw

[signal ocean]

I think your latest log file would already be a big help

[violet socket]

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[signal ocean]

I checked the person Toast was talking to, it was about mining SFX being out of sync, which normally the hotfix from Tuesday should have fixed. Your issues aren't (just) with mining SFX are they? You mentioned missing graphics and others?

I'll DM you all this

[hollow ether]

Why is my name orange? lol

[plain cloak]

Because you were always orange?

[hollow ether]

Was I?

[signal ocean]

yeah you've been orange for like weeks

[plain cloak]

Ye

[signal ocean]

it comes with selecting roles in id:customize

[hollow ether]

Hmmm.

I notice a lot of "Video Stars" are the same orange. I didn't know if it meant something more specific.

[patent dirge]

Its just what you get pinged for

[signal ocean]

all the public roles are orange

we didn't want to create too many strata in the community, it doesn't really help new players or regulars

[hollow ether]

Beats mauve, I suppose.

I mean, say it.

'Mauve."

Ick.

Back off for more driving in France. I'm just south of Paris now.

See ya!

[plain cloak]

Drive safe!

[signal ocean]

if you're driving anywhere near Fontainebleau, the forest or the city are both worth a stop!

[patent dirge]

I hope you two realize that she's driving around in TruckSim, right?

[plain cloak]

Really?😂

[heavy crane]

Hi everyone, where can I post tips for the game? I have 2 essential ones XD

[signal ocean]

I think #getting-started if they're early game tips? Otherwise #enshrouded-chat maybe?

[plain cloak]

Well still drive safe a valid point 😂

[signal ocean]

lmao

no I did not

[heavy crane]

I would like to advise 2 things to programmers.

[signal ocean]

oh I thought you meant for players

[heavy crane]

I can't find a section for advice to programmers

[signal ocean]

you mean the team working on the game?

[heavy crane]

exactly, I would like to give 2 pieces of advice to the creators of the game

[signal ocean]

then sure, here is fine

[plain cloak]

There is an UP vote system and feedback if you are interested

[misty abyss]

cub, how many enshrouded copies gifted to get that meeting room named after me?

[heavy crane]

in the chat? Do they read?

[signal ocean]

I mean there's like 70 of us so not all are reading the chat, but I will pass on relevant feedback

[heavy crane]

I apologize, I didn't see the feedback section

[frank hearth]

hello

[signal ocean]

that's a good question! We don't have that many meeting rooms

[plain cloak]

@signal ocean ( funny short story)
When I was playing Forza Horizon 4 (I’d put about 1,200 hours into it), one day the game froze as soon as I launched it and sent me back to the desktop. I tried every tip I found on every forum, but nothing worked. I sent about 20 emails to support, but still no luck. After four months, I finally figured out the problem: the Razer Tartarus I’d bought wasn’t compatible with the game...

[misty abyss]

i know it most likely wont happen, but would be funny to hear what the minimum amount id have to gift people for it to be considered

[signal ocean]

what's the current score

[heavy crane]

Here's my feedback. The game is fantastic, you can feel all the love you've put into it. Truly, you can feel the love in every little game mechanic. However, we have a couple of criticisms. The first is simple and can be solved with very little effort. The starting NPCs should offer more different outfits (note, it's not necessary to change the basic profile of the items. The blacksmith could offer 4-5 different sets of outfits, but with the same profile). I play with a friend, and we always wear the same clothes. There's no choice for too long.

[violet socket]

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• Please search for your suggestion before submitting to avoid duplicates.

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[misty abyss]

its 28 right now, next month im reaching 30

[carmine scroll]

wow. thats s lot of friends!

[heavy crane]

thanks I posted the second suggestion there

Second problem. I've played Space Marine 2 for 600 hours (a different genre), but there's one thing this game really lacks. When I parry an enemy and stun them, the finisher button is Y. However... 1) sometimes Y doesn't lock on to the target, leaving me exposed to enemy fire. 2) sometimes there are enemy corpses all around me, and when I press Y, instead of finishing off the enemy in front of me, my character starts searching through the corpses!!!! and I get blown to pieces. Like I said, I'm coming from Space Marine 2, and the mechanic for finishing off stunned enemies needs to be made much more precise. It's too important.

[misty abyss]

i just find people in this discord server asking for the game and contact them, and also to people who i know would enjoy the game

i have played with very few of them

[signal ocean]

I'm pretty sure we already added prio to the finisher moves over search

maybe that wasn't enough

[heavy crane]

When I say Y doesn't lock onto the target, I mean that sometimes I lock onto an enemy, stun it, but my cursor jumps to another enemy (it's very sensitive). What would be useful, like in Spacemarine 2, is that if I press the justice button, the character should automatically lock onto the closest enemy to execute, even if I'm targeting another enemy.

But, more importantly, he must not scavenge enemies if I press the execution button. Y is assigned for both scavenging and executing.

[heavy crane]

In Space Marine 2, if I press the justice button, my character can even turn 180 degrees and run 2 meters to execute an enemy stunned by another player. It's a really important mechanic.

[signal ocean]

yeah but crucially you're typically not fighting and looting in the same spots: loot tends to be scattered in the corners of the map or in specific ammo dumps

if in Enshrouded the enemy you just killed wasn't a source of loot, you'd not have that problem either

but by killing it you just created a loot node

[heavy crane]

Finally, in Space Marine 2, I can hit enemies however I want, and the parry button cancels any animations. This way, active play is rewarded. In this game, however, I can't attack freely because the parry button doesn't cancel animations. So sometimes I have to stand still and wait for enemy attacks. P.S. The move where I kick when I parry is way too strong. It instantly stuns enemies. It's too powerful.

[carmine scroll]

thats a LOT of money to spend on strangers!

[misty abyss]

yeah it is

[heavy crane]

This game is so full of love that I'm speechless. However, I highly recommend the developers to put 50 hours into Space Marine 2 to make it the definitive game. (I think Space Marine 2 is the best multiplayer combat game ever made.)

[carmine scroll]

okay but space marine 2 is not a building/eploration game.
enshrouded is not a hack n slash game.

I do agree on one thing though. this game NEEDS an attack cancellation button BADLY.

[misty abyss]

for honor + enshrouded

would be very cool

[carmine scroll]

blocking doesnt work half the time...

[heavy crane]

I love this game, I feel love in every mechanic. But can I be free to advise the creators of the game to spend 50 hours on Space Marine 2? I'm 44 years old, I've been playing video games since the Sega Mega Drive days, and I've never seen a game as perfect in combat as Space Marine 2.

[carmine scroll]

Sure but you cant realisticly expect a game that does 50 different things to have the same indepth combat as a game soley focused on combat.

[misty abyss]

never played space marine, are you making them implement some melee mechanic?

[carmine scroll]

jack of all trades, master of none.

also, im not saying dont suggest it but i am saying please use the upvote website so that the devs will actually see your suggestion. they wont see it here i promise.

[misty abyss]

personally my favorite melee combat mechanics has to go to "for honor" going to be glazing that melee mechanic for the rest of my life

[carmine scroll]

mordhau had good combat.

elderscrolls has no excuse having basic combat.

or skyrim specifically. i can give oblivion a pass.

[heavy crane]

I suggested improving the target lock system when performing an execution. Unfortunately, I can't offer any other suggestions; they'll only accept one. Otherwise, I'd suggest allowing parrying to reset any type of attack. In this game, you're forced to wait for enemies to attack, because if you attack, you can't parry.

[misty abyss]

yeah targeting can be a bit wonky/funky in enshrouded, i dont mind it tho

[heavy crane]

I, on the other hand, don't find it good. Sometimes I have corpses around me and the same button is used to rummage through them. Instead of executing them, I rummage through the corpses and get torn to pieces.

[misty abyss]

yeah, i experienced that in my melee playthrough, it happens

[heavy crane]

I'm absolutely certain that if the creators of the game play Space Marine 2 for 50 hours, a whole new world will open up in their minds, and the game will benefit from it.

[carmine scroll]

unfortunately from what I hear they dont have the time right now.
perhaps after 1.0, which theyve already pushed back once already.
magic still needs its combat update.

[heavy crane]

But to avoid having to search through the corpses, it would be enough to have different buttons: one to search through the corpses, one to execute enemies.

so easy...

[quasi saffron]

I mean... You can map the buttons too if that annoys you.

Temporary fix but should work.

[heavy crane]

mapping the buttons... when I open that page I get 2 button conflicts by default XD. as soon as I touch something I get at least 10 conflicts...

[quasi saffron]

That's why I got a mouse with extra buttons.
They'll never expect me to have... More buttons to press.

[heavy crane]

but i use pad xbox

His vulpine Excellency Vanolia, beautiful nickname

[quasi saffron]

https://tenor.com/view/castiel-twister-supernatural-gif-10808811

Time for twister then while trying to find a functional mapping.

[zenith pewter]

I’m sick yall 🙁

[quasi saffron]

I am too

I slept in from 7:00 until now (5hrs) because hooman can only survive so much burden at work.

[zenith pewter]

I was surprised my boss told me to stay home

I didn’t argue

Guess I got a pass to play enshrouded all day oh darn

[quasi saffron]

If I don't check for my health no one will so it's up to me to decide

[zenith pewter]

Hope we feel better soon ❤️‍🩹

[misty abyss]

i feel your pain

what you work as tho? if that isnt too personal

[quasi saffron]

The guy who changes the electric meters to modernize them.
Normally an order takes ~15-20 minutes. But only if individual rate.
Well I've got the double rate ones, which take around 30-45 minutes and 14 of those.
Not to speak for the time I need to arrive there, for the customer to open the door etc.

[zenith pewter]

I blocked this guy yesterday got an FBI tag and was talking about spying on people through their cameras in their homes thought that was weird to talk about in a game forum but just fyi 👆👀

[misty abyss]

😭

[quasi saffron]

I am sorry you feel like that about me.

[misty abyss]

i was telling him to not expose his home cameras to the internet lmfao

[zenith pewter]

Not y

You

You said you have watched many through cameras and that’s a red flag sorry but it’s weird to talk about

[hollow ether]

I went to Limoges, all on the highway. The scale in the simulator is 1:19, so I'm not sure what nooks and crannies they can have. Are there really piages every hundred feet in the real world? (Yes, it's hyperbole, but there seem to be a LOT of toll booths in France.)

[quasi saffron]

I live just in the walls.

[misty abyss]

fair enough, but in my defense i have not watched people through the cameras, i just know how to connected to vulnerable cameras and look at the live feed, not like im sitting there spying 😭

[hollow ether]

"CAN do" and "DOES" are two different things.

[zenith pewter]

This convo is a little too political for my taste I’m out peace ✌️

[misty abyss]

think he means me
i do red team cybersecurity, i know stuff like that

[quasi saffron]

Wait... Where is this political.
I will smash it.

[misty abyss]

well i did once prove that i do actually know how, and not my fault most vulnerable cameras are either public cameras like or misconfigued home camera

[hollow ether]

I ain't seed no politics none.

[quasi saffron]

Dunno maybe we shouldn't both talk about our jobs.
Feels like it stirs the pot.

[hollow ether]

I started my game. I'm trying to do it in bash and lua both.

[misty abyss]

you automating something?

[hollow ether]

I am trying to write a small game where the computer tries to guess the number the player is thinking of.

[misty abyss]

mm, good luck, fun starter project

[hollow ether]

I don't know lua and I barely know bash. I figured having a goal was a good way to learn, rather than just abstract "This is how you _____."

I'm beginning to think trying two languages at once might be overkill. And lua is harder than bash. lol

[misty abyss]

well to be fair my job can go very quickly over to the discussion of what "ethical" and "legal"

[hollow ether]

Anything cyber security is going to make the average tech user nervous.

I, for one, would rather have CopyFail found and patched.

[patent dirge]

second time Ive heard about CopyFail today, now I'm curious and gonna look it up lol

[hollow ether]

It's a Linux thang.

[patent dirge]

Yeah, I heard, but I'm curious. We use linux servers at work too, so...

[misty abyss]

my favorite one recently has to be
https://cyberpress.org/whatsapp-flaw-lets-attackers-use-instagram/
reels of doom lmfao

[hollow ether]

Makes me regret my tether to Meta even more.

[neat minnow]

Just a heads up. You can still play when your menu tells you there's a mapping conflict.

[hollow ether]

My wife has a platform that let her glide 2,634 metres from ||the dragon at Howling Peak|| without updrafting, and would have gone farther except she wanted to land somewhere.

[misty abyss]

ey snow, i found a alternative to boar juice
those wasps in blackmire
wasp juice, there is even a website for it
Owasp juice shop
(nothing to do with wasp juice, just now found that Owasp juice shop exists)

[patent dirge]

wasp juice is just venom tho

[misty abyss]

[mortal ridge]

And wasps live in giant mushroom wasp-hives, apparantly

[hollow ether]

I just flew from Howling Peak to a spot halfway between Blackmire Spire and Revelwood Spire, and would have gone farther if I had decided to steer around the mountain.

If I had hung a left toward Revelwood I would have easily broken my flight record. which is now 4,000 metres.

[mortal ridge]

How does it feel to live so much higher than the rest of us?

[hollow ether]

You Lowlanders have better farmland.

[mortal ridge]

I do like ground beneath my feet

[hollow ether]

And I am an aviation nerd with virtual helicopter and glider endorsements.

[steep jetty]

hello

[hollow ether]

Hi, JDTheDad. I'm KaibethTheGrandma

Ahh, you laugh now, but I once simulated a glider flight of over a megametre.

Seven and a half hours in the air without an engine. In a VR headset.

New Record! 5,054 metres.

Another 400 metres and I would have gone from Howling Peak to the Farmer's Vault.

My wife wanted air travel. 😄

Howling Peak to Cromville!!!!!!!!!!

[mortal ridge]

If you were talking about me, hi! haha. No but I wanted to add something. Right now, the mining sfx seems to be fine, and I can't find a pattern yet. But I have a feeling that it happens more often with ore than with other ground materials, but I am going to be exploring it to see what is what! 🙂

[signal ocean]

so from what I think I read earlier today, it seems to be still triggering sometimes by jumping or crouching while mining

[mortal ridge]

Just tested it with a single jump and can confirm that I have a delay there and with an occassional delay while crouching

While jumping, I don't even get the mining animation. Do you want a video/log?

[neat minnow]

Mining desync also happens if you're pushing forward/walking into whatever you're mining.

[mortal ridge]

How would that work? Because you can't walk while mining

[neat minnow]

But you can.

[split schooner]

Oh yeah that's REALLY bad.

[mortal ridge]

Hm I see.. I think I thought I couldn't do that, but maybe I am confused about it

[split schooner]

Was synched till I crouched and did a hit.

[neat minnow]

It's a recent change. That may have something to do with it.

[mortal ridge]

Yeha, for me there is atleast a whole second delay while jumping

[mortal ridge]

Aaaah, that figures

[signal ocean]

stop trying to break my game you rapscallions

[split schooner]

But you litterally told me to when you gave me this name color

[signal ocean]

that was for the rapscallions

[mortal ridge]

Sorry i will stop playing after 600+ hours in 4 months 🙁

[signal ocean]

resident goths need not worry

[neat minnow]

Also, as a heads up. Hallow Halls is still having issues with Rune keepers not showing up.
2 hours wasted today because of it

[signal ocean]

is this a specific hollow halls or any?

[neat minnow]

I was only in the first one today. I'll play some more tomorrow. But I got to a point where I needed 2 more to open the barrier and nothing was left to kill. And believe me, I looked everywhere.

There was also enemies on the other side of the barrier. I don't think that's supposed to happen.

But they weren't rune keepers.

[abstract kiln]

do you remember if you kited any enemies out of the room with the barrier?

[civic river]

same issue here has anyone found a solution?

[neat minnow]

When fighting the enemies that were in the room, I definitely did. I had to or I'd be overwhelmed. Did that perhaps 3-4 times to whittle them down. Once all the enemies in that main room were dead I still needed 2 runes, that's when I noticed a few enemies on the other side of the barrier. They weren't the ones I needed to kill, but I've never seen them on the other side like that before. Also, I could kill them through the barrier, but couldn't loot them.

[plain cloak]

yep

[plain cloak]

and when you are inside a cave when there is not much space,maybe there is a glitch with the camera as well.

[split schooner]

Nope I got it to happen while mining a rock wall out in a field, plenty of room not in a cave.

[plain cloak]

I mean that + inside the cave.

It happened to me as well yesterday

Toast as already the video and my log for it

[abstract kiln]

thanks! i believe those other enemies are supposed to spawn when the barrier goes down, i've run hollow hall 1 a ton to reproduce the issue and they're always there when i bork my barrier.

[neat minnow]

I'll play again tomorrow and give it another run. If I encounter the same or similar issues, I'll video it, just in case that'll help.

[abstract kiln]

definitely!

[misty abyss]

annother blue?
are you a CM or a dev?

[quasi saffron]

Dev

CM means community Manager, which are Toasty and CUB

[abstract kiln]

i'm with qa, joined just last month

[quasi saffron]

This one here has left the cave and will be brought back.

[abstract kiln]

noooo

[quasi saffron]

But not to confuse, Toast and CUB also are devs.
It's just they wear 2 hats

[quasi saffron]

What's about resident Punks.

[misty abyss]

does the game support loose file loading, trying to mod enshrouded
so far only managed to use existing textures

[quasi saffron]

Uh... I'd say that's above his paygrade to answer (or, to be more precise... CUB will point at him with stuff because NDA). I think only CUB is allowed to answer such to his own uh... Current state of knowledge (or not, because some of these NDAs also apply to him)

[hollow ether]

I actually found a mod I want to use. Guess Linux and mods don't agree with each other.

[quasi saffron]

Whats the difference between mod and uh... alteration of game files at this point. I think there are no 'official' mods right now. More like 'cheating' tools.

[misty abyss]

which mod, what does it do?

[hollow ether]

It's a minimap. Requires Shroudtopia.

[misty abyss]

yeah, only seen shaders and "cheats"

[misty abyss]

interesting

[quasi saffron]

Finally! I knew something!
Thank you very much internet stranger number #2012358 (number random).

[hollow ether]

Moot. The dadblasted Shroudtopia doesn't fire in Linux.

[misty abyss]

its more of a technical question, cub said he would have to ask the devs when they are done putting out fires
its more about how the game engine itself functions, but i do not know how his contract works, so ill let whatever blue that can answer me, answer me

[wanton folio]

we had he hot fix yesterday, did we have another? Cause I'm compiling shaders?

[quasi saffron]

Sometimes shaders just love piling up in the comp.

[misty abyss]

i scare the blues away apparently

[plain cloak]

That's why back in December cachyOS last two days on my pc

[terse belfry]

Hi!

How do I catch sunscales and stripetails?

I'm fishing in Revelwood (just W of the Revelwood spire) with basic fishing rod and mots. I keep catching Lakehoppers and Shimmerfishes, just like in the first area.

What am I missing?

[misty abyss]

linux is actually great for modding, its just isnt supported by the usual mod launchers and often needs a something with a different name

[mortal ridge]

I feel that on a personal level

Lol what

I didn't realise I was looking at messages from so long ago. pardon me

[mortal ridge]

If you do find out, please do tell, because I haven't figured it out completely yet...

[patent dirge]

I looked at the quote and was like... where'd he get that message from now lol

[mortal ridge]

30-03-2026, apparantly

[patent dirge]

how did you end up back there lol

[mortal ridge]

I was searching for specific information haha, and I was still stuck there without realising

[fierce sequoia]

hello

[mortal ridge]

I need item displays other than for weapons/armor and food and drinks huuuu T_T

[signal thunder]

hi

[patent dirge]

BEHOLD my... chair

[mortal ridge]

Do you want me to display yoú?

[patent dirge]

Runs and hides youll never gonna get meee

[mortal ridge]

You'd have to guess my server password first 😛

[patent dirge]

password1234

[mortal ridge]

Damn it, how did you know???

[patent dirge]

[mortal ridge]

[quasi saffron]

Mine you'll never get!

it's definitely not shroud123

[mortal ridge]

Password1234!

?

[mortal ridge]

convincing!

[mortal ridge]

Abusing the purple again, I see

[noble anchor]

I do not abuse. I thoroughly leverage.

[mortal ridge]

Fair enough

[patent dirge]

Showoff

[mortal ridge]

"look at me and my moving pictures"

[patent dirge]

https://tenor.com/view/embed-fail-embed-fail-intentional-intentional-embed-gif-17355838859230793055

[quasi saffron]

https://tenor.com/view/magic-confetti-awesome-gif-11884906

[noble anchor]

Sometimes a moving picture just conveys the intention better.

[patent dirge]

Oh no we woke the gif fox

[quasi saffron]

Just what I posted days prior

[vital topaz]

https://tenor.com/view/the-irony-irony-ironic-gif-6233732

[quasi saffron]

I'm not woke!

wait

He meant sleep right

[patent dirge]

Ik, the furry wasnt convincing me

[mortal ridge]

is this why we peasants can't send gifs?

[quasi saffron]

Yes

[mortal ridge]

because it would clutter the chat

[noble anchor]

[quasi saffron]

Absolutely

I mean we're bad enough

[mortal ridge]

Yeah okay touché

[mortal ridge]

Hey speak for yourself, I am a delight

[quasi saffron]

Wow. He wants me to admit I'm a menace.

[patent dirge]

Once the gifs start its hard to end the chain

[quasi saffron]

didn't we already break the chain

[vital topaz]

Also because it is very hard to automate checking gifs for inappropiate content

[noble anchor]

With only a few people doing it, it's not so bad. With thousands doing it and no way to control the content of the GIF they post...?

[patent dirge]

And he would be right

[mortal ridge]

You put yourself in a corner there

[quasi saffron]

You post that one so often, I'm starting to believe it's your face Malzy.

[noble anchor]

And who says it's not?

[quasi saffron]

I knew you're an actor!

[noble anchor]

Yes, I act badly all the time.

[quasi saffron]

funnily enough I cut out the "bad" before actor.

[noble anchor]

You can't stop me from making jokes at my own expense. It's what I do.

[mortal ridge]

Do you get paid for it?

[noble anchor]

Sadly no.

[strange charm]

Hallo alle

[mortal ridge]

Ah, damn, that would be a good job

[quasi saffron]

Actually he gets paid for something similar

[mortal ridge]

which is?

[quasi saffron]

I'm not a dox

I'm a fox

[noble anchor]

I get paid for my suffering, yes.

[noble anchor]

I work in IT.

[quasi saffron]

Says it all

[mortal ridge]

Yeah basically the same thing

[noble anchor]

[quasi saffron]

Hi!
But please english because we're international in here.

[tame seal]

Good afternoon loons.

[mortal ridge]

Wish I could send voice notes or soimething. I would send a teams call invite ringtone right now

[quasi saffron]

Ew the blue fish is back again

Why are we all mostly blue anyway.

[tame seal]

Because blues the best colour?

[mortal ridge]

it is a good color

[quasi saffron]

You monster just want to stir anxiety all around.

[mortal ridge]

Yes, why keep it to myself when I can have others suffer with me?

[quasi saffron]

I mean you'd even scare CUB and Toast to death

Speaking off, where's the favorite slice of bread hiding at.

[mortal ridge]

That is on them for using teams

[quasi saffron]

Some people have no choice in what wrong tool their companies use.

[noble anchor]

To be fair, the vast majority of businesses use Teams.

[mortal ridge]

Yeah fair

I used slack in my previous job. It was basically Discord but for businesses

loved it

[noble anchor]

In business, you use Microsoft products or you are no longer in business.

[mortal ridge]

Worked with teams for a year or something and still get scared shitless when that call sounds comes in

[mortal ridge]

Is it that bad yeah?

[quasi saffron]

It's worse. I'm here.

[noble anchor]

It is. Every business will have some Microsoft product or another in its production stack.

[mortal ridge]

Yeah fair enough

[mortal ridge]

oh no

I kinda like your presence though

[quasi saffron]

I don't like your tone Ma'am.

Wait. How did we get there.

[noble anchor]

Isn't that the question?

[mortal ridge]

Ay, dios mío!

[mortal ridge]

yes

[quasi saffron]

We're just a compilation of funny/meme-y internet people.
SURPRISE PING @patent dirge

[noble anchor]

(I love a good call back.)

[quasi saffron]

But what if you're that old the call back calls you out.

[noble anchor]

I mean, I'm used to that by now.

[wicked bloom]

Man. I never used to crash but ever since the latest update i'm getting tons of them 🙁

[quasi saffron]

I mean I'm old enough to see Nintendo reboot/remaster Lylat Wars 64 another time... It's like the 4th time?

[quasi saffron]

The last update... or hotfix.

[patent dirge]

[noble anchor]

I mean, I'm old enough to be nostalgic about Pitfall on the Atari 2600...

[wicked bloom]

the last major update.

[hollow ether]

I get to the oil change...... first in line...... they have appoinments now?? They'll try to squeeze me in in about an hour. And my craptop can't run Enshrouded.

Pitfall..... bah...... Adventure or gtfo.

[quasi saffron]

maybe #troubleshooting may be able to help you, not so much others experience crashes right now and after some hotfixes / tweaks it should be considerably less.
Drop by, ask for help, maybe it's something on your end - or something that can be fixed.

[noble anchor]

Had that one too.

[quasi saffron]

I played back then Secret of Evermore on the SNES...

[patent dirge]

Oh, its the elderly care center in here again

[noble anchor]

Still have that one.

[quasi saffron]

Me too. I'd wish they'd remaster it

[mortal ridge]

I don't know if I am too young to understand these references, but my parents were definitely too poor

[patent dirge]

My first ever actual game was Mickeys Wild Adventure on PS1

[quasi saffron]

First ever game was uh...
Yoshis Island: Super Mario Advance 3

[mortal ridge]

I had a ps1 by the time ps2 was already up and about for a while. I was usually one or 2 consoles behind, lol. Never owned a nintendo device before the game boy came out, sad.

[patent dirge]

Before that probably that weird skiing game on Windows 95 or something. But that doesnt count lol

[quasi saffron]

It hardened me. It molded me.
It made me enjoy difficulty, because this game is hard.

[noble anchor]

I remember the days of playing Rocky's Boots on the Commodore 64... Probably where I got all my logical techy roots from.

[hollow ether]

Stupid git keeps asking the the passwords to my repos on my laptop. Doesn't do this nonsense on my desktop.

[noble anchor]

Git has been having....... issues lately.

[quasi saffron]

You're trying to say this polite right

[noble anchor]

I'm trying to be diplomatic.

[sleek estuary]

hello

[quasi saffron]

Well I don't hear your tone, so I just assume you're doing the face from prior again.

Heya.

[quasi saffron]

Absolutely this one is bookmarked in favorites

[noble anchor]

Maybe...

[quasi saffron]

https://tenor.com/view/valheim-troll-gif-15726900205121885872

[noble anchor]

Or I just know how to find it quick.

[quasi saffron]

That's bookmarked for me.

[patent dirge]

https://klipy.com/gifs/vldl-vivaladirtleague-6--k01KQ7FX6WD7DXPZ5EV7TNTE380

I got this one

[quasi saffron]

Fishy link

[patent dirge]

unfriends you

[quasi saffron]

You're funny.
You never behave like one anyway.

[patent dirge]

[quasi saffron]

When was the last time you showed interest in my hobbies or coin collection.

[mortal ridge]

So much love here

[patent dirge]

What hobbies?
What coin collection? All you got are some basic gold coins

[quasi saffron]

Me doin' the guilt trippy now instead of being just drippy.

[patent dirge]

And you don't even have a server I could go mess up. Lame

[quasi saffron]

https://giphy.com/gifs/moodman-gasp-telenovela-gasps-in-spanish-lNMF3DXBSVvlhbME4R

But also... Just because I never told you doesn't mean it doesn't exist.

[patent dirge]

Also, you're forgetting the friendship code:
Basic friends: glaze eachother
Real friends: roast eachother at every occasion, unless its emotional support

[quasi saffron]

I think we need to make better conditions to this friendship, I want to get a better deal

[patent dirge]

You want a better deal? Dare I remind you who flooded my base? I didn't even get to lick your walls yet

[still pagoda]

hey guys, been loving enshrouded, playing it non stop now for the past week, i just have 1 QoL suggestion, -NAMING OF CUSTOM MARKERS-, we can currently change color and icon , but being able to change the name of them would be awesome, specially if your someone like me that places many down! hopes this finds a dev or if anyone else agrees dont be afraid to share it so it can hopefully get added! thanks legends

[last sparrow]

https://tenor.com/view/hello-hi-hy-hey-gif-8520159980767013609

[violet socket]

What is Feature Upvote?

• It is a site where players can make suggestions for the game and upvote other suggestions for a chance to get them implemented.
• Please search for your suggestion before submitting to avoid duplicates.

Suggestions may be open/closed at any time to review backlogs.

• Upvote suggestions you like to increase their chances of being implemented.

Enshrouded Feature Upvote: Click Here

Please keep suggestions to one per ticket, we will delete any tickets containing general feedback, multiple suggestions or duplicates (as that defeats the purpose of the site.)

[quasi saffron]

There you go, that one already exists. Use the search for it.

Go upvote it, to have the team consider implementing it more.

[quasi saffron]

At this point, for once, I'll remind myself about what blue said on the topic of "Think of joining in recently and read that first." and just let it die.

[pliant quarry]

How goes everyone's thursday?

[patent dirge]

Don't remind me its not the weekend yet

Good good. Got a deadline to hit tomorrow and I wish it was over already. Otherwise, good

[hybrid oak]

On my way back to Indiana today after visiting my parents for my mom's birthday. Ready to be back at my desktop

[plain cloak]

Not so bad very lazy,and yours?

[pliant quarry]

Feelin sleepy today but hanging in there lol

[hybrid oak]

Do you typically work US hours Toast, or do you kind of switch back and forth?

[patent dirge]

Monday Morning 10am Meeting in Germany and Toast is like:

https://klipy.com/gifs/good-morning-cat-7hV--k01KR1GKJBRGFPCYQ9YW1D14YW8

at like 3AM

[pliant quarry]

US hours yeah, thankfully they don't usually make me wake up earlier than that unless it's really important lol

[hybrid oak]

That's good lol

[pliant quarry]

Given that we're not really a live service game, though, it's rare that anything is that urgent. The last game I worked on was a live service f2p game and I had to get up early a lot more often for that one

[hybrid oak]

Oh yikes, yeah

[plain cloak]

Germany is very easy for working hours on office, specially on Friday

[patent dirge]

Bet that wasnt a German Studio either. German regulations and all that, I doubt the could just make you wake up in the middle of the night to attend a meeting no matter where you are located

[pliant quarry]

Yeah I've noticed that things US employees won't even verbally complain about, German employees will straight up refuse to do lol

a lot more workers rights there

[patent dirge]

It's not even that Germans will refuse, it's the Government breathing down their necks when they wanna do something like that

[plain cloak]

If you trying to call them on the phone on Friday they are like : Hell no, this is for Monday not today!

[pliant quarry]

It was a German studio actually, but they were very strict about not doing it too often and making me work less at other points to make up for starting early. It was mostly for things like emergencies, I handled a lot of public communication and so they needed to have community managers on call when there was server outages or other critical issues the community needed to know about

Also I think by company policy I could have refused to do it a lot of the time, I just didn't really mind lol

[dapper sedge]

Heyo

[patent dirge]

Yeah cuz I think, as a german based studio, you can't make your workforce do stuff like that outside of the law anyways. There is exceptions. But like, some are over protective in some cases

I got a call from HR once because I did my 6 mandatory hours during the time I was supposed to, left to do something private, sat back down at like 10pm and did my rest 2hrs and HR flaged me like hell on why I did that lol

[cedar minnow]

Hello guys, any chance this game will support fsr 4.1 or raytracing?

[dusk pasture]

Need to say this in German, sorry: "Herzallerliebst! Bin gerade in der Bembelschenke und finde das total goidisch! So ein schönes Spiel! Gruß aus dem Frankfurter Speckgürtel 🙂 "

[pliant quarry]

Yeah it just depends I think. They were very strict about us working no more than 160 hours a month. We could do overtime, but if we did, we had to work less later to make up for it. It had to add up to normal 40 hour work weeks by the end of each month. And we were only "on call" on specific shifts, it wasn't a 24/7 thing. We had 4 community managers and we'd go on rotations for who would be on call. And even then, we weren't expected to be actively working or home or anything, we just needed to have notifications on our phone lol

My understanding is that lower level positions (especially ones that aren't salaried) are even more strict for what hours employees can work and stuff. But higher ranking positions it's a bit more expected that you'll work overtime and stuff sometimes.

But yeah in the US it's just... anything goes, lol. The only real accountability is that you can quit if you're too miserable

[patent dirge]

And you would be correct. Usually something "Union" based "Tarifverträge" and stuff. Once you're above those paygrades, stuff gets more loose with hours etc. But so does your pay

[patent dirge]

Sounds horrible tbh

[carmine scroll]

walmart managers often work so many houre theyre basically paid under minimum wage.
at least when i used to work there.

[patent dirge]

My stepdad refused a couple promotions in the past because it would put him out of said negotiated contract paygrades with the unions so they could make him work overtime etc.

[pliant quarry]

Yeah chain corporate "manager" positions are honestly a trap in my opinion. They promote people to a position that sounds high ranking and fancy, but they barely pay them more than entry level employees, give them dramatically more responsibility, and dangle a carrot of future promotions over your head if you are "loyal" to them and work for them for years of your life.

In my experience the people who are career managers at those places are either A) people who shouldn't be managers, or B) talented managers who don't understand their own worth, not realizing that they could easily get better pay and treatment if they just went somewhere else.

[patent dirge]

naw, I'm good, just gimme less hours a week*

[plain cloak]

It always depends on the job and whether the company is well-managed. In my old job, I worked 287 hours of overtime...

[dense zephyr]

hello friends

[pliant quarry]

[cursive robin]

lol this exactly... im in salary senior position in a US company and I can work as little as 30 hours a week to as much as 90 hours a week depending on the project and business ventures... its quite a rollercoaster ride... overtime pay is non-existent when youre paid salary 😩

[dense zephyr]

I have a question: Why does the game compile shaders almost everytime I launch it? its the third time now me and my friend have to set and wait for shaders to compile... Kinda makes it hard to want to play the game.

[patent dirge]

Who you calling friend, mate
jk, welcome to the party

[wet mulch]

hello

Was bugging animals in walls/floors always a problem and if yes is there eta on fix?

[plain cloak]

One thing that works well in Germany, however, is the labor relations office (Arbeitsrecht)

[pliant quarry]

Shader compiling happens after every update, and you sound like you started playing right around update 8, we've had a lot of updates and hotfixes after that update released.

It's the game optimizing itself for your specific hardware, essentially. On some hardware this process can take quite a while, speeding up the process is a big priority for us for 1.0.

But yeah, you shouldn't see it too much more going forward. We'll probably have 1-2 more hotfixes/updates, but otherwise the game won't be updated much until the next major update.

[static reef]

If you are playing on a service that lets you remotely play the game on a more powerful PC than yours, it likely isn't the same PC every time, so that would also require constant compiling of shaders

[plain cloak]

Toast, you have to experience the customs office at least once in your life (zollamt) 😂

[dense zephyr]

Thanks! 🙂

[static reef]

also good morning everyone

[dense zephyr]

I am playing on my own, pretty powerful pc.

[plain cloak]

how's the water?

[static reef]

I took a break from that, but could start on it again, lol

[dense zephyr]

morning! Nice day for fishing aint it

[pliant quarry]

Honestly the most annoying bureaucracy I experienced while in Germany was actually america's fault lol. Trying to ship packages from Germany to the US through DHL and the paperwork was an absolute time consuming nightmare, the tarriff stuff created so much headache.

[dense zephyr]

As a teacher, we heard horror stories about how teachers from Germany during covid) would have to physically scan in homework and then the students and their parents would have to print it out, fill it in, scan it and send it back...

[cursive robin]

yeah all my recent packages getting shipped into the US going through DHL have been taking way longer than expected...

[dense zephyr]

In denmark we have digitalized a lot of schooling. But I cannot image how awful it must have been to be a german teacher during covid

[pliant quarry]

Yeah Germans really love having physical papers for everything I've noticed lol

[plain cloak]

I mean, receive the package and go to their offices...It's not something everyone can do; it's a once-in-a-lifetime experience

[cursive robin]

thats why German fountain pens are so on point

[static reef]

Toast... let me know when you're ready for "Can Of Worms 2 Electric Boogaloo" I got more recipe complaints...

at least my last can of worms was listened to many improvements

so thank you

[carmine scroll]

as annoying as hes been about the recipes hes not wrong.

https://tenor.com/view/out-of-line-anthony-mackie-sam-wilson-falcon-the-falcon-and-the-winter-soldier-gif-21182970

[static reef]

my previous complaints saved the world

I complained to toast about a lot of recipes and he helped get them fixed, and like... thank you so much toast
the dyes are so much nicer now that we get x5 for a set of armor instead of x1
the costs for those shroud mushrooms went down a ton, which is great! no longer do we need 25 mushrooms for 25 stun arrows
many a thing was fixed ....except... two things....

Alchemical Base has changed, and was... kinda fixed... but not really, Corrosive Blood was added to the recipe, making it... kinda worse actually?
...Corrosive blood is not common

so Alchemical Base went from:
||1 mycelium, 1 shroud liquid, 1 water, 1 shroud spore||
to...
15 shroud mushrooms, 5 acidic mycelium, and 1 shroud particles...
and NOW it's
5 shroud mushrooms (good), 5 acidic mycelium, 1 shroud particle, and 5 corrosive bloods...