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Speaking of Gigabyte, if the latest CoD game is 250gb just how big is GTA6 gonna be..?
And do u think they will actually sell the full game on disk using multiple disks?
gta been in the oven a while now they workin hard on it
Or lowball everyone and give u a phantom disk with a "100+gb digital update" to get the full game
Crimson Desert did this.. which is why I ended up not getting it Physically.. I hope they release a 2 disk version with the full game entirely on disk tho!
release is not the end of the road, I know they want to continuie improving the game
yeah they mentioned more content after full release possibly dlc
no real details from waht i've seen
Yea but I believe in game preservation and not have a functional physical copy of a fame means it's significantly harder to preserve the game
Like that one Scott Pilgrim game was lost too time for nearly a decade until Limited Run Games did a physical edition of it for a 3 month period
yeah some games wont work without servers that arent online anymore
Thise too are also upsetting loses.. even if they were bad games, I'd still like their creation preserved.
Which is why we have "stop killing games" going
atleast give us the server code to run ourselves when you wanna drop all support from your end, devs.
Like 70% of the games on the Wii Shop are all now lost forever because they were digital only and mostly Wii exclusives.
Ohh, I pretty sure I signed that!
tho everything that comes out on PC will eventually be preserved.... because y'know, it will be made to run.

Oh did you know the hardest racing game has finally returned to public with online support?
F-Zero GX is back on Nintendo with online support through the GameCube thingy on Switch!
I got last place playing that game on the second 2rd map on Easy mode
am not into nintendo stuff other than the occasional pokemon game
I've never got last place before in any racing game-
I wanna play wipeout on PC tho 
Good Morning โ๏ธ I already have an Eagle Vision helmet and still no better visibility ๐ . I wish for something that would allow for better visibility, even in the Miasma.
Enmiasmaed the hit new survival fantasy game!
I have got IRL stuff I NEED to do but I just want to keep building. urgh
miasma is the German translation for Shroud
that's how you spot a German on this server
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Since we're all one big family, I prefer to call it ourasma. ๐โโ๏ธ
So the game IS EnMiasmaed
Ew.
Don't german everything
HEEELLOOOOO
O m g i luv this game :0
Das Miasma Spiel mit Zombies in einer Post-Apokalyptischen Welt. 
English people
That hurts. 
will be good, promises.
The second one is unreconizable
Like in I couldn't read it even if I know what it means
me r smrt 
my bad
I'm sorry and I will probably do it again.
Bew.
I absolutely will do it again.
2:30 AM. Time for an extra strong coffee and a Hollow Hall.
Just out fer a rip, are ya, bud?
Bedtime is between 7 and 10 AM.
Too relatable, what with kitten Cowboy entering my life lately.
One of our %@$#holes likes to tear the filter out of the bedroom heater. She sleeps in the living room lately.
My wife and I finally have a problem with the game: We should log back in standing right where we log out.
๐คทโโ๏ธ
Yeah, I know. Minor thing. ๐
Okay. Scenario.
What happens if there where you logged out someone on your public world made now a giant hole.
Or put his house there and you into a chamber you cannot leave.
For good measure you can't destroy anything and after an update everything is Enshrouded.

Well, my wife wouldn't do that to me. We should have an option. ๐
just be glad youre not limited to only spawning at your base now.
thats a huge improvement from the last update.
Also it enabled having safe spots / doing Hollow Halls in not one walk
Ya. thats how it was before.
like i hated how in zelda oot you only reloaded in a dungeon or at one single spawn point........

Look whos finally shown up again 

Your mom?
new icon
Yo Mama so poor, your family ate cereal with a fork to save milk.
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I'm not sensible.
Wait what kind of Symbol is that new one in the left.
Aw it seems the Enshrouded Server got hacked. ๐ I am not used to them rebranding.
its on one of the shields you can make
New Server Icon. Who dis?
Dunno must be one of these ad servers
That is a fancy new look indeed! 
Doesn't want to get out of bed.
I will shoot it with a gun
-_-
@rain laurel bb โค๏ธ
Woah woah.
That turned fast into the next shooter server
do we also need to now submit our passport every time we change the icon?
just yours

I gladly take the credit card number too
I can't see gifs where I am.
Got no data volume left. 
serv icon updated after I restarted discord on my end, banner idk, maybe there's some delay
So... Rock (Dwayne Johnson) suddenly decides he reached his emotional limit. He launches into a full scale tantrum, flailing around and kicking absolutely everything in sight like the world personally offended him. Imagine a furious potato with legs, except made of stone and powered entirely by rage.
icon change spooked me xD
Ooo my tat matches the server icon 
I see you used to write the alt text for images on Web sites.
"imagine a furious potato with legs" what a day to have eyes
Which means, I need to get back in there for you lovely folks
So many eyes.
word is we based the new logo on your tat
^ yup, big inspo
and have you been doing just fine
gotta gotta be down, because you want it all?
oh wait he says cage
misheard lyrics 101
Hello
me explaining to the team why it is a good idea to base our new logo on @dull citrus tattoo
Thanks nice blue. 
You're not as mean as the purple one
I wonder if my message want to arrive anytime soon
Now this is going to be a big ego boost for @dull citrus 

just what we needed 
I am a Muse what can i say. 
Matt? Is that you? ๐ฎ
how's that new role logo
what do you think bbgirl
No but i did get to see them a couple yers ago and they are amazing
That logo would be nice also as tattoo!
It is i can confirm
You got it already?
Isn't the logo of the rune forge?
Its the flame sigil
I got the image from the art team!
Is time for a new tattoo! Last was 10 years ago
Tbh i dont recall it really being talked about much if at all in the lore??
Very cool, good job! @dull citrus i go back to work ๐ฅฑ
I am about to start work 
I've been at work for hours 
me too, germany
Perk of self employment i start my day when i feel like it lol
Me too. Stupid germans! With their stupid efficiency and stupid work ethics
Yh fr look Ima that efficient I evn cut words
my discord refuses to show me the new channel icon 
My Discord refuses to load at all. 
new discord icon 
Fancy new Icon, now I barely manage to find the server in the list

You are slacking today. I tossed a your mom at you and got silence. Do better.
I ๐คฃ -reacted to it, a bit later. Wasnt gonna pick up on the joke so much later 
just put in on top of the list cause of the best game this year ๐
throws shroud balls at you
Right? SO good.
They were definitely inspired by my tattoo ๐
I... uh... didn't know you could rearrange those lmao
I was always wondering by whatever weird behaviour Discord decided where a new server would go lmao
I dont believe
drag n drop
server logo changed??
drag a icon onto another to make a folder
yeah that happened by accident too lmao
i hate how new servers always load at the top.
then just drag both out of the folder to delete it
hello all
Yeah I figured. It just never occured to me that I could move them around lol
oh new server icon huh
I just got home finally!
๐
I wake up at 6:15 but go to bed at 2 AM...
I feel I really hate myself
๐
5:30 and usually 21:30, i understand why you hate yourself
Server icon change ๐
I did that live 15 years ago, now i can't anymore
I already work at 6 ๐
today i woke up at 8 then sleep more till 10 then sleep more till 12 then get up and play pc
Can someone tell me why did the server logo change
I did that last 10 days when i was in holiday! That's why this week was a trauma..
Same here twin
Because the new one is cool!
Yea it is
Oh than hope for you a speedy recovery!
thank u
Wowie fancy icon
I heard CUB wanna release the Shroud files.
If we're nice.
C'mon hedgie. 
if you don't calm down it's gonna be c'mon wedgie

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That's at least nicer than last time! 
Join Franรงois and David as they go through some of the changes coming to combat in Enshrouded in update 8: Forging the Path, releasing soon to Enshrouded!
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You are Flameborn, last ember of hope of a dying race. Awaken, survive the terror of a corrupting fog, and reclaim the lost beauty of your kingdom. Venture into a vast world, vanquish pun...
Why you kickin tigers ๐ญ
closest to a fox I could find
Mean. It's definitely not the same ๐ฟ
I am also not a bear
Is that a bear? It's nose is very long. Thought it was some sort of rodent
go check out our Youtube video on combat 
I saw it, there was a orange man and then I saw a fancy spin atk
orange you glad you watched
Will never happen but would be cool if we got height sliders.... I love the game but it feels like it's a HOBBIT simulator lol
I bet that guy in that combat trailer has a really cool username
hi has there been an update since 1.0?
Yay, no more Gandalfing myself off a cliff edge! Eager to see the forthcoming Mage changes, too. Thanks for the update vid, y'all!
Oh theres a new NEW vid
Now I gotta watch two videos
I am on 2hrs of sleep
And going too work
Patch notes are already 10 pages long - What he hasn't said, that's in size 24 font.
When are the patch notes releasing?
When the patch is live.
Yeah, release the Shroud files
not till the update releases, probably lol
Oh okay I didn't know if they release them a lil early to let us know whats going on or not
That's what the teasers are for.
Well consider me teased cuz I'm hyped for it
Wait, 1.0 isnโt out yet right?
i dont think so
I didnโt think so but they asked if there had been an update since 1.0 lol
It looks like they're remapping the skill tree too in that video they posted
Looks like double jump is gonna be an inner circle skill, no more 7pt investment too get it

They changed the logo ?
No more 
wow spoiler alert
I've added the new icon to the emojis

good luck!
Olla
I need that 1.0 date. We decided to wait for another play through until 1.0 and Iโm having withdraws.
What I miss?
Nothing yet I donโt think, a new vid was posted today about combat overhaul though
delayed till the fall you got a while
I am analyzing ur new video
Aw I didnโt see the delay lol
I'm calling the police
the wake of water update was delayed which set back the 1.0 release(im assuming)
Ah, thank you for the info!
Oh really
idk the actual reason but I figured that was a big one
the actual reason is we want to release a good game so we're taking the time to do it right ๐
lol didnโt catch it
It also appears like some skills are broken into multistage parts that let u spend less points overall to reach the deeper skills on skill trees
take the time you need please!
another melee rework for 1.0 feels like we get a new melee rework every patch now. I am a melee enjoyer, but man I would love to be more enticed by magic
On one hand, Iโm devastated. The game is so good and I want it now.
On the other hand.. youโre right, itโs worth the wait.
magic is gonna get looked at too!
ik, but man every patch gets a melee rework
I was hoping the lil mouse in the videk would have highlighted one of the new 0/3 skills so i can pause and get a cheeky lil looksie
and like I said I LOVE melee in this game
but I would really like to love magic in this game too
the slightly archer nerf with the dodging enemies is nice too since archer is far and away the best way to play the game. that being said I feel maybe the dodge skill should be in the tank tree considering they talked as if the dodge i-frames were for tanking
When is said update 8 ment to be with us?
Every major update got additions or changes to melee in some form, but I wouldn't call it a "rework every patch"
April 21
Nice thanks
And lets be honest, you wouldn't call adding new spells and changing how wands target a 'magic rework' right?
new spells are kinda like new weapons for mages tho
I would call it that
Yippee
I want gif powers
so then your idea of a rework is not what's happening here then. call it more of an overhaul lol
That's not right!๐
yeah I gues if you want to get into word choice
whatever you want to call it, melee has been center stage for changes in patches mostly
There are 3 major changes I wanna see for ranged and magic..
- Let wands do Merciless Strikes
- Make staves and bows no longer lose charge if u jump mid charge.
- Fix the endlag on wands and staves, it is pretty bad. And has by far the worse cancel windows of any weapon types in game.
truuue
all those would be great for the actual feel of that playstyle
All of these things effect melee as well. Animation canceling, timing, and attacking mid-air are not melee or magic-specific
Melee doesn't require u to charge to atk like bows and staves. It is not the same.
And u can atk mid jump and the transition isnt interrupted between air and touching ground again
it doesn't have a cast time, no, but timing does exist, and there are animations, and there is a functionality built behind 'jumping and attacking' vs a 'jump attack'
on the back-end, it would look like a melee change as well
well but you need to cast the spell to launch it, if you interrupt the cast the spell won't launch
yeah but charge up time + end lag where you're a sitting duck just feels bad
like I already did my waiting animation charging up why do I also have cooldown after?
i don't disagree the 'pause' time at the end of animations needs work. but that's animation-specific as well
I dont think u understood my comment unfortunately
I just watched the newest combat teaser
Same, looks pretty great
The devs just keep on cooking man, they can't keep getting away with this!
If ur referring to my #2 then u didnt seem to understand what i was saying.
this will be subject to change when we see how much the reduced lunge for melee feels
I do hope they plan to make mage a little more interesting overall
It's criminal that this game isn't more popular
staff gameplay feels highkey underwhelming
i was only responding to the first message. i'm not sure what you mean by the 2nd, no ๐
ikr
This game does so much stuff really well. It should be more popular
With bows and staves u have to charge up to atk ranging from 0.6-1sec with bows and 0.4-4s with staves.. if u jump ay any pount during ur atks charge up it restarts that charge up.
literal only thing I'd like is more character customization options. It's a shame we don't get to have like, really long hair :c
RN Mages are super squishy until 20s, then by 30s they are doing god tier damage (but still squishy unless you multiclass armor and skills). That said, @gentle mulch has a great set of info to make your Maging more fun, highly recommend.
Oh ye, I know about that
It would just allow for more seemless combat flow and style if they let aerial mage and archer exist.
I love my Mage, she's blue Skills only, but I understand the complaints.
I've played nothing but mage
if you cast the spell is not interrupted
But ye, some QoL for staff mages, some more character creation options and I'll be happy
I have the least played time in mage. Mostly melee and very close to that is archer.
tho I'd like some more optimization here and there too
right, that's called 'cast time'. There is no cast time with melee attacks, but that's just a function of melee.
If they built in attacking in mid-air as a function of combat, you could continue your cast in mid-air because the back-end treats 'off the ground' differently.
would generally love to try out different classes but I feel naked without my mage ๐
basically, what i'm saying is, it 'looks' like a melee-specific change, but it could benefit more than just melee
tho if I could be a spellblade, that'd be nice ๐ณ
try archer it almost feels intended to play that class
lemme have 1h sword in one hand, wand in the other
Like theres a gem for bow that requires u to fire while airborne, it'd be nice if ai can charge my atk on the ground then jump and release the atk. But as of right now I have to jump first then begin charging up my bow atk
a lot of melee weapons have elemental damage so maxing out damage perks involves going into the wizzard tree
yeah jumping interrupts casting
I hope for potential arcane archer builds tbh because of the eternal arrows
Bee Sting would like a word
I know there's only one of em rn but I dig the idea
but with the way heavy attacks will work, maybe it won't now?
the frost damage nodes do work with the eternal arrow I believe
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yeah when wizzard says "10% frost damage" it means ALL frost damage
Which isn't end of world jus not as satisfying, Bow Staves and Wands just seem to have extra restrictions and jankiness that makes it feel not as enjoyable.
heavy attacks are now 'held' left click (thank god)...which may have a short cast time with no 'charge-up bar'
either way ye, I'd certainly enjoy more build options. feels like the different "subclasses" in the game aren't really "sub classes" at all, ya feel me?
like if you play mage, there's barely any reason not to grab all blue nodes
all the elemental perks + elemental bow = brrrr
yeah but we have so many skill points you can really branch out and trim the fat of your specific color. Multi-classing can be strong
well in the video it looks like a skill tree rework
where they show the location of the dodge skill
might be, ye!
which is much needed
it really is
12 days, then imma do a new playthrough
skill tree rework is needed so bad actually
maybe just gonna renovate fort kelvin this time around because I suck at building villages lmao
I think having more branches between skill colors would be cool
I would just like for the trees to make more sense honestly
and another weapon rework possibly
all the current end-game melee weapons have some amount of elemental damage which really doesnt feel good
ngl what I really wanna do since they introduced it, is a greatsword playthrough
problem is, it feels like it's harder to get greatswords only
having a couple for spellblade multiclassing is fine, but its actually all the end-game 2h melee weapons
lemme reforge my greatswords into dealing magic damage ๐
It seems to me that all skills now are 1 skill point to unlock, but some are tiered are require 3 points for max effectiveness of said skill node. This is jus me making a guess at it tho.. T^T)
you dont have to they all have some kinda of magic damage on them im almost sure
on release they did
Ohh nice
ye I didn't play for a while
just waiting rn for the new update before jumping back in
It will definitely let u build ur builds foundation earlier on then fine tune it later if they did do it how i think they did
I would love for them to work on itemization a bit. It's not PoE or anything, but it would be nice to have some gearing options besides "Get this armor for mage; Get this weapon for damage"
They did do a first pass and changed it up a bit, but I feel there's still too little viable options for your builds.
yeah just opened the game to check. I have 7 2h weapons in my inv 6/7 of them have some amount of elemental damage. some have more magic damage than melee damage on them
ohhh nice
The devs do love incremental percent crawl progression so maybeeee.. I still will always think +3% and +6% dmg buffs in early games are very dumb.
Y'all don't forget the best way to give feedback directly to the devs (who can't always check here) is F1 in game and the Feature Upvote website (search for features you want and upvote them or if you don't see them, put in a request). https://enshrouded.featureupvote.com/
oh you know what actually we need a weapon perk overhaul
"just more damage" is almost always better in most cases
Yeah I've got quite a few comments there already ๐
If u hit for 12dmg +3% and +6% are still 0 and 1dmg.
Combat overhaul has already been promised. :)
yeah but does that mean weapon perks?
we have seen skills, movesets, and a new super move
I would advocate for those buffs to be swap-able from a pool of "gem-like" options so you're not stuck with something that potentially doesn't work for your build.
Time will tell but I have faith the team listens to us.
ooo kinda like old Destiny 1
Yeah, or like the way gems work now....only 5 slots ๐
you cant post images here
but like Destiny used to have unlockable swapped perks in sets of 2-3 choices per slot
but like guns right so scopes and stuff made some sense
would be nice if I could pick between damage types and QoL perks
so frost/slashing/stam leech for slot one as an example
Weapon level ups shouldn't stop at a max of 5
IMO it would be cool if they added those 1-5 slots on the weapon/armor as visual upgrades...but that would be a lot of extra work
All weapons should be able to level up from 1-50
I like having different weapon level brackets
it WOULD be a lot of extra work.
There should also be a way to enhance a blue or purple rarity to the next rarity, maybe by combining two duplicates of the same rarity at the alchemist or blacksmith.
wowowowowow why does enshrouded discord have a new logo? is this.... perhaps.... a prelude to a big drop of updates?.....
oh thats what you mean
That's how they could keep the Blacksmith blacksmithing ๐ Have him (or her...depending on who you're using) re-forge the item with a higher item level and slap it back down to rank 1
The slots should also be rewritable using the gold rune coins
Like gems u can effectively pull one off a weapon destroying it, then put it on another weapon overwriting one of their default perks.
I would hate having some weapons drop from known sources as a way to get them easier
Instead of being what feels like, completely rng
Unless they aren't..
There's just some weapons I want really bad that I've found in some areas but I want them at a higher level
So upgrading rarity or weapon level would be cool (beyond the minor weapon level increases we CAN do)
Most non-RNG weapon drops are either from bosses and mobs or tied to questslines.
but like before wake of the water update melee had a BIS weapon the Deeproot axe. It was the only melee weapon that just had all its perks be more cutting damage on a default cutting damage weapon
Yea but what affects the level they drop at?
can't wait for weapon transmogs tbh
Also Let the Blacksmith craft higher than Blue rarity please
and its effective and optimal but if you let people customize perks at will this is every end-game weapon
Perks shouldn't be changeable imo
But like, I really want a higher level Forsaken Bow
random and multiple options to help fight rng, but perks should not be completely customizable
absolutely not
Locking blacksmiths craftable weapons to blue means that at no point in progression are they ever a viable option to craft and use them aside from the very first hour of play.
Yea that I agree with too
they are meant to substitute lack of upgrades
tbh I never crafted a weapon. I always relied on drops
youre at a new level bracket but you havent found a new weapon in a while the craftables help for that scenario
But by the time I was able to upgrade my flame level so they'd final match my own level i'd already outleveled them
^
So how is that supposed to benefit me ๐ญ
craftable weapons were never meant to be end-game meta or even the best option for your current level
its to help fill the gap when you go dry on your prefered weapon type
Their original design was 'npc makes armor; world has weapons'. That was done in the interest of time and replayability. But I think it's time they start itemizing and giving options to both realms
You pick weapons for the perks not the dmg tho.
not an opinion btw this was in the dev update vid before they dropped them
I used a lvl 16GS all the way up too level 35 just because it was the only GS i got that had health leech
right I didnt say they were implemented perfectly
im just stating their intended use
Well they could improve on their intended use is my point.
then I agree with that, but I dont want them to be good choices either
ngl playing any sort of staff without mana leech feels horrible
Locking them at Blue means ur better off just using a random drop u find in a region.
I don't think having an NPC make (some of) the best armor in the game but for some reason you can't even get good weapons makes any sense
more of like a last resort I suppose if you cant find a new weapon in the wild
From a finding items standpoint, I don't agree that the world would be filled with all kinds of random weapons and named items, but only 1-2 armor sets
if they could craft the best weapons too, then there'd be little reason for droppable weapons to exist
Yea
makes sense, yes but modeling armors is way harder than weapons
Its funny too because blacksmiths are armorsmiths are two very different job titles and he cant even do the blacksmithing right
well i'm not saying model-wise, just functionality behind what drops and why
yee
And so are weaponsmiths. And I think they have a lot of room to grow the NPC pool here
Like...that poor carpenter....
You should only be able to craft average weapons or slightly above average weapons at best\
I think thats due to lack of armor variety no? Like theres always a "best" armor set for your playstyle that is a craftable achieveable goal in a somewhat short time after getting to a new area
but weapons are very different in that regard
his UI is bigger than a Sears catalog (for those of you who remeber what those were ๐)
If the craftable lore weapons arent meant to be usable how come the craftable armor is allowed to be on par or better than the random armor u can find via RNG drops.. it's just..
they are useable
theres only 1 bracket where random armor is better than craftable armor
If ur willing to punish urself yea
People already complain there is too much stuff spread over too many NPC's/crafting stations and you're wanting to add MORE? ๐
whos people?
I for one enjoy the variety in the NPCs and Crafting Stations
it lets you create a mini landscape of different environments and adds character to a base
same!
More people i see complain in that direction than i see asking to have more NPC's to craft from.
My friend did hav that complaint
I mean that was the point we got dupe npcs to make nice little towns for ourselves very cool
I hope they're gonna support mods as well, that'd be lit

Personally, i couldn't really care less but yea ๐
hoping for a mod to de-hobbit the character models
Yea my group is working on building a castle on a mountain top with little shops and stuff
the only thing they will have to do after the combat update is to final put a CD on the health pots
laughs in wizard healing
laughs in not using health pots.
What pot do you pot mean?
I just have the water aura on the entire time
Yes
Finally
You may not like it but this is what peak Flameborn performance looks like

the only time i use pots is when i get hit by a DoT on my server....I have damage turned up because I want them to hit hard, but DoTs get cranked to 11 ๐ฎ
mana potions? wazzat? I just switch to wand
In my 200hrs playing on the survival difficulty never once used em
yeah im a pot spammer

I've used health/mana pots... when i need space in inventory and i've picked them up somewhere ๐
anything can be done with enough pots in your bags
Ok if that counts as using them then yes i've used them xD
well my build has no use for mana outside of swapping to the staff for top-off healing outside of combat....so i don't use mana pots
then maybe my pot CD idea isnt as much of a hot take as I thought got some gamers in chat
honestly pots should always have a cooldown
I still think they should I just thought it would have been more contested.
like its needed but I dont want to see skill issue bad reviews on steam
putting that in would make balancing certain costs more 'front and center' than 'meh, just pot it'
You sound like you were hoping it'd be more contested ๐
and I have the skill issue im not throwing shade on anyone
but pots are actually op if you use them
how are they OP?
if you cant get one shot you cant die
pots make things too easy, plus they make the devs use them as a crutch. "No mana for your spells? What, you can't walk around with 500 mana pots?"
emergency blink + pot you might as well be unkillable
I would like a "Alter Flame potion" that has limited number of uses, but killing a certain number or a group of enemies replenishes a use of it or fully replenish when u find ome of the respawn point flame shrine thingys
The big balls
bro wants the estus flask
I wouldnt say they make things too easy but they could be a crutch.
idk man no shade or anything but they kinda do make things easier by a lot
but if i have to take the time to literally farm seed and plants and craft them then i think their strength is fine.
they could be tuned a little
Is there any announcement regarding when the game will be released?
I like how PoE2 handled pots from a balance standpoint.
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i mean. obviously being able to heal is going to make things easier.
its more the amount and how instant it is
I like to loot when I explore and potions waste precious inventory space. And I hate having to travel back n forth from base and exploration a ton.
You ever hear of these things called 'resource servers'? ๐
bandages suck though. useless items. "oh you got hit. no more heals"
that cannot be a factor in game balance
To be fair poe1 pots was a balancing and gameplay nightmare so it balances itself out lol
yeah but it would make healing as a not mage more skill based
No 1.0 news yet, but the cpmbat overhaul update will drop Apr. 21st!
now if I ever take any damage its blink out of any stun and pot once or twice
HYPE
yes. im aware. i manage one myself.
but thats a poor arguement when talking about intended gameplay loop.
Yeah it was...they learned from their mistakes
now gimme long haircuts and my life is yours
PoE level of skill tree when?
They've said resource servers aren't cheating though. I consider them cheating....but that's me

We definitely have a few devs who want to do that and we have to hold them back like rabid dogs
personally use them for arrows
im not here to prove my skill. this isnt dark souls.
this is explore and build game. not masochistic suffering game.
They're not cheating but they're not really part of the games natural balance.
i consider them time savers.
That'd be cheating. And you would be set back more than your token in Jumanji ๐
saving myself time does not equal cheating.
cheating implies competition.
Yeah me either im a pot spammer. Cant ignore how powerful they are tho
cheating implies breaking the rules, not competition
They're not cheating in a non competitive game. If someone wants to use them, they obviously don't consider them cheating. If they consider them cheating then they wont use them ^^
I am on their side, I must find the key to release the hounds ๐ญ
resource servers do not 'break the rules' per-se, so they're not considered cheating
and bandages suck bc pots are in the game
Thank you. I'll wait for the full version of the game to come out.
What rules are there? ๐
bandages suck cause they barely do anything and if you get hit they shut off.
There are some rules I learned the hard way due to how some of the games systems work.
any rules set by the game's creator(s)....which is why resource worlds aren't considered cheating
Let then cook.
I'm just saying, the definition of cheating has nothing to do with competition....you can 'cheat' in solitaire...c'mon now, get real
We don't have any rules lol, but resource worlds will definitely break the balance of your playthrough
personally idc if its cheating or not. Its your game to play how you like
i dont see something that merely saves me time as cheating.
i'm not arguing for or against cheating either, to be fair
For the sake of ur enjoyment, don't do it. Getting high level gear early on makes finding loot so depressing cause u know every chest is just rubbish

So play a game of solitaire with all the cards stacked up as if you've won already. You saved time. The end.
The point of the game is to spend time playing it
I guess some people canยดt handle the amount of freedom Enshrouded offers. ๐ซจ
yes but to be fair.
there is a difference between gameplay and grind.
Honestly I don't mind if you want to save time and/or cheat...especially in a single-player game....but to say cheating requires or implies competition is just nonsensical
Technically, people who set the game to hard difficulty or easy difficulty are 'cheating' because that's not the 'intended' balance the devs aim for ^^
I now only go the the Shroud Depot just to dye my armor when I get it
If i'm not just playing to build stuff that is
Actually it isnt. Like I said, I would consider using a resource world cheating, but Keen doesn't; therefore it isn't
my opinion is moot and only for myself ๐
Using a resource world is no differnce than changing difficulty setting, you're still changing the baseline play. I'm just running the semantics ^^
I mean it's not the intended gameplay experience, but we're not gonna install anti-cheat software to stop you from doing it or something lol
same with modding and stuff
What is poe?
Technically speaking, the hardest difficulty is always the intended difficulty, because they had to balance hard mode to be challenging but still fun in their veiws.
Is it cheating if you have already completed 100% of the game and dont want to waste dozens of hours harvesting materials for building though?

I wish you were here to tell that to the guy quoting the TOS over wanting to make a mod... >.>
ima mod sooo many skill points
The default difficulty is the intended one, the higher difficulties definitely aren't as balanced lol
To me yes. And in that regard, I do cheat ๐คฃ
The game entered EA without a hard difficulty, so no the hardest isn't the baseline ๐

Just being honest
Thatโsโฆ. Certainly a take.
It's cheating if I personally don't like it 
I'm hoping this upcoming update has a lot of bug fixes, still feeling very hesitant to continue building the town in my base cause of performance issues ๐ค
by my own standards, I shouldn't...but sometimes it just gets to me making 5000 bricks of something hard to get my hands on
Just not sure it's cheating
It's a changed gameplay experience.
Its definitely not cheating ๐ฅฒ
How come there isn't toast as a food in Enshrouded
Heh
the 3d artists don't love me 
(and I also haven't asked)
I approve of the new icon based on my tattoo btw

Dw toasty, We luv chu
Yeah we saw your tattoo and thought it would make a cool logo please don't sue us
Lol
Only if i get in the credits 
Or a cookie
Credit: Rick Astley
Otherwise my goons will come knockin
Hello all
am I the only one who enjoys mining a mountain for an hour to get granite
How are we doing today?
Poor henchmens..
Possibly
No but you may be a minority lol
๐ช
We are contemplating the very much lack of Toast in Enshrouded.
True, where is that guy anyways?
he was just here
Toast should change his name to Flatbread.
he died
Flatbreadddd ๐ฅบ๐
๐ข
He got toasted
I dont think thats how you make flatbread
But at least we hav Toast juice
Hopefully he's enjoying Enshrouded
I love this game so much so, I have 3 full playthroughs of it...
Only in AAA do game devs hate the games they're making
True
I have rookie hours compared to some the other vets hereโฆ 1300ish
1300 rookie hours?
I mean I have mined my way to the botom of the world several times for fun now soooo no?
My bestie here has over 3k!
But i can claim to be the first to get an Enshrouded tattoo.
Hes such a goofy talented crafter
Ah but have you gotten a tattoo WHILE enshrouded
Depends on definition of โenshroudedโ
F O G
Wrapped in a burial shroud IDK ๐คฃ
Damn i should've had a tattoo artist at my wedding

and an open bar, that way all your friends and family make regrettable permanent life choices
Except for when you find out your cousins got a problem and your wedding becomes their sobriety call 
Wow Toast, setting them up to fail.
I'm just making sure their wedding is a memorable one
We had a cash bar
They were handing out cash?!
they were putting cash in the drinks
my wife's family can get carried away with booze and I wasn't about to pay for her fam getting blasted at my wedding
We had free wine and beer at ours. People enjoyed it.
Filling the glasses with cash.
understandable.
We had free champagne but, that's it
"Rookie hours"
Its expensive i get it! I was fortunate enough to be in a place where i could afford it so we were happy to cover it!
Why can I not post screenshots in here?
oh i just didn't WANT to cover it lmao
Because peasants arent privileged
You wanna get blasted at my wedding you can pay for it
Ah, I tried to look up your name in the enshrouded chat but it doesn't work...
I skimmed costs a lot of other ways - my friends catered and paid for all the food and we didnt rent a venue - we had a camping/woods wedding.
That sounds sick
What are you looking for?
It was wonderful.
We paid for a cute/intimate venue that hosted and provided MOST of the work, so we didn't have to stress about it
We had maybe 80 folks the day of the ceremony.
I think we had ~45
Nice. Thats a good intimate size
I was just gonna post a screenshot of my hours in this game is all
You can in #enshrouded-chat
havent been here for a while, what happened to the server logo and van, he seems to have changed too
I live across the country from my family so most of my family and friends couldn't come
Something something liquidity.
So a lot of it was new friends I made and hr family
Van has changed?
(not that new friends are bad)
Just, not my childhood friends that I've remained in touch with over the years
endalrin seems to have aquired a new font since last time i check in

and a z in the name
yes. some people felt entitled to dm me questions instead of asking in the discord like normal people.
so im hiding at the bottom.
XD
mm
Does that mean I should dm you with a question?
i cannot remember what i had for breakfeast but i can remember that endalrin has gotten a new font, why is my memory like this
I am sad for you. 
did i even have breakfast?
Enshrouded needs more merch with that logo... the pin is not enough!
@pliant quarry how are those plushies coming along?
i remember u too, u seem to have spaced out your name added a tm and a new pfp
I love my pin!!
Not sure I'm not personally involved with them, as far as I know they're still being worked on though
we cant wait. shut up and take our money.
the bug plushie in-game is just taunting us at this point
Ok Ill take it
do devs get to see statistics on player playtime? like highest playtime and avg?
In theory yeah
I wont be surprised if they have a secret leaderboard on who has played the most
i want to know what the highest playtime is
I'm not sure they'd have that much 'personalised' info? That's be something they'd get from steam (We don't log into any enshrouded services) And i doubt steam gives that much info? Could be wrong though.
long time no see killercod
I have seen around 3500 hours from a couple folks
Bestie has that
Lol while i know who you mean many will have no idea who you mean ๐ฅฒ
Lol
heard there is a new update coming, map exansion or rework of mechanic?
Combat overhaul is coming out on Apr 21st
Theres already two vids on it out rn in #socials-feed

No its not silly girl
Stop being shady ๐ฅฒ
for enshrouded or general game?
Its my mug in front of the Mรกlaga cathedral having rooftop drinks lol
Shroud
I def was more of a Billy Idol fan
i'm at 260 ๐ rookie numbers!
Billy Ray?
I am at 588
Are you even old enough to know who any of these people are? ๐ฅฒ
i know billy boy !
But theres so many billy's billying
I had someone say โwhos coolioโ to me when i made a reference and i about died

sorry**** billygoat Billyboy!!!
If it country music then idk nuffin about any of the artists
I just remembered that I still need to get past the mountains to get to the tropics
Not even Dolly!?
Dolly is a Queen and an Icon that extends well outside of just being a country star
Itโs just a whole lot of grinding to get to the tropics
That sounds so familiar..
Aint nothing wrong with a little bump and grindโฆ. To the tropics
Hello, whats the logo for the discord change for? :o
Dolly Parton?
Because they wanted to ^^
Because they felt like it
Damn lol
Oki ;|
Too commemorate this guys new tattoo!
Idk what the icon refers to :T
Also this obviously
Have you played the game??
Not much :|
Well there you have it lol
I also dunno what the symbol is..
it's the Icon of the Elixir Wells
Cool :)
Its the flame sigil
Ohh thats when I seen it
Stop lying to people ๐
I think Rick is Rolling peoples
Itโs the Flame sigil; its the symbol of the flameborn.
Interestingly i dont think its really discussed in lore much if at all
The discord banner is different from the steam one so i gotten confuzzled :v
They are updating media as they prepare for the next big update
(I know lol)
Im giving you shit per usual
But also its not that its the symbol of the elixir well perse, albeit linked to them yes
I forgot it was used on the teleporter pads on the ancient spires though, I know it's used a ton in nomad highlands/kindlewastes weapons though
Right after I said Iโd bring some donuts to the Keen offices for the gameโs release, they announced an update the very next day! Coincidence? ๐ค
But it has much greater meaning
I think it may be the connection between Flameborn and Ancients
Thats my hypothesis
It was to keep you from bringing donuts. I asked about this once if i was in the neighborhood and the studio is highly secure and not open to visitors lol
i won't show there without asking first lol!
i'm living 6 hours far away!
Oh hi sort of neighbor
also honestly I forgot it was called a "flame sigil" cause I am used to staring at the ones above Elixir Wells..
I know the real/meta reason for using it everywhere is "it's a game" but... lore wise, why does the Elixir Well, use the Flame Sigil if the Ancients were against the Elixir Wells? 
i can setup a table on the parking lot i don't want enter the office !
The flame sigil = Enemy hive icon
Were they?
Pretty sure the ancients were long gone by the time wells were being made no?
no the Ancients were here when the shroud started to happen, as the Elixir Wells were being made
Hai bestieee
Then they arent very ancient

that mean more donuts for us ๐ we will eat donuts outside the office!
Yesssss
Ill fly over just for good donuts
Too far to drive lol
Ancients were around until the same apocalypse... although sadly, we don't know what happened to the "Young Flame" ancients
We do know what happened to the Empryean Ancients though
love the new DISCORD symbol for game ๐
So richhh
I only flown 3-4 times my whole life
Ive flown that in the last six months ๐ซฃ
But tbf i was doing an international move lol
I had 8 cents to my name for this whole week
I finally hav food to eat now that paycheck came thru
๐ i will have to make time, between Soulframe & Crimson Desert, to play my beloved Enshrouded Update 8 ๐
I just... broke the flame sigil above the elixir well
time to book a flight for the gamescon in Germany than!
it had very little health 
although it looks like two separate pieces, it's actually all one piece apparently, lol
Can it fit within a weekly budget of 8 cents?
๐ฒ what do you mean 8cent?
This week i only had 8 cents to last me the week
Maybe shes American and has medical debt.
you spend all your money on games?
Or educational debt. Or both.
How did u know i am murica
because you said it!
Hmm.. likely story
and when i go to work you go to sleep so ...
So i gotta go to the mountains with my heavy armor barbarian and kick in the teeth of what ever lives there
Because only Americans will have 8cents to their name but still find a way to be on Discord ๐ฅฒ Priorities.
Dinner time 
Wat for dinner?
i made carbonara!
did you got any food at least?
when the new update drop?
21 April
When its properly cooked
For everyone but mages
they are still cooking that one
They are also probably sneaking in a skill tree revamp as well
I hope they make some of the passive skills more impactful

no, combat overhaul is 1.0, didn't you check the roadmap?
April 21st is the rick-roll update, made exclusively for bestie 
I am back but at what cost
Huh?
Your time
(Commenting about paying for a computer or fancy phone and high speed internet when food cant be bought)
Mostly because I am awake and not sleeping anymore
who said my internet is high speed? my internet is Dial Up
(I sure hope anyone got to see that joke)
I have to rub sticks together to check my AOL email
Smoke signal email damn
you need to eat some carbonara as well!
So its you who keeps dialing me up to ask for my wifi password!
RIP

I check my email when the pigeon shows up at my window
I knew it!!!!! I had foreseen it!!!!
How did u post that so fast

he prepared his wholelife for that
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These shoes are actually so cute tho, now I really do want them
you need mroe than 8 cent to buy them!
I got paid today
So now you have 18 cents?
I have at least 3 times that neow
24*
/steals coinpurse
Wait, so update 8 is gonna be just that on the road map. Im confused bc they said update 8 and on the road map says 0.8 update spring and the combat update that was in the video is going to be Autumn 1.0 or Spring 0.8?
they simply are getting ahead of themselves :P
This is going to be their 8th major update. 0.8 is the stage they've labeled this in their development towards 1.0 Some combat is going to be here for this update, more combat is going to be for 1.0 or beyond.
so they planned the combat update for 1.0, but got enough work done apparently and are excited happy devs who want to release what they've finished in 1.0
Devs: "check out this cool combat we made
"
very nice devs, does it have horses?
Devs: "
you never appreciate us!
"
How close are we to 1.0 release
Type /roadmap in here.
closer/faster than Valheim probably
That tells me information that's been available for months why would I do that
Because it answers your question.
cause it's all the info we know too, lol
No it tells me autumn 2026
Right?
That doesn't answer my question
yep, that's all we know 
Autumn is the closest they're giving us. What more do you want?
you should try reading the responses you've been getting.
if you really want an exact date though
Dec 32nd
I am probably wrong but at least it's an exact date
I don't want an exact date. I want a status update on a road map that was given out months ago
Entitlement much ๐
roadmaps don't update until the updates themselves come out, the 2025 roadmap stayed roughly the same the entire year
Not entitled at all just want an update on what's going on.
If you keep an eye on socials, you'll get to know the same time as everyone else and wont have to ask questions that are not available.
Do you want them to put out another message that says 1.0 is in autumn?
the only thing we know is "spring update" is supposed to be on the 21st, but if we yell hard enough I am sure we can make them push it farther out... earlier? no never earlier, only farther out 
Enshrouded Roadmap
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No but they could say they are on track or behind schedule or give more updates on what's cooking. I'm awaiting a console release. I get you've probably played the game, but I haven't and am waiting for any news. 0.8 has come and gone. They are 0.9 now. Update the timeline.
what? no it hasn't, 0.8 isn't out yet
0.8 is coming out this month
there is no 0.9 that we know of, they plan "0.8" as the 8th major update, and then will release 1.0 later
Hotfix #36. v 0.9.0.4
If that's not 0.9 then they need to work on how they put out update numbers
0.8 means the 8th update
Veilwater was the 7th update and was already version 0.9.0.1
I will put this as nicely as possible. They are under no obligation to tell us ANYTHING if they don't want to. They haven't given us any status updates like 'things are on track' throughout their entirely development so far, so i doubt they'll start doing it now. This is not a live service game that has planned updates (with already completed content ready to go) For the next year that mostly just needs the click of a button. You've already said you know autumn for 1.0, they are not going to bring that date forwards and if that gets pushed back, they will tell us when they're sure it's going to get pushed back. You've asked a question, got an answer, the only answer that's available and wont accept that as the only answer... for some reason.
That's definitely not what that means. But go off king.
...it absolutely is
Enshrouded EA Release, Jan 2024
Major Updates:
- Hollow Halls Update (March 2024)
- Melodies of the Mire (June 2024)
- Back to the Shroud (July 2024)
- Souls of the Frozen Frontiers (Nov 2024)
- Pact of the Flame (Jan 2025)
- Thralls of Twilight (May 2025)
(Aka Back To The Shroud Part 2 Electric Boogaloo) - Wake of Water (Nov 2025)
0.8 is the next major update
wake of water as a game version was "0.9.0.1" but even Pact Of The Flame was "0.8.0.0"
and pact of the flame was the beginning of 2025
Closer to the date they plan to release 1.0, we will get a more defininitve date, but much like the update due on the 21st, we rarely know a date until 2 or 3 weeks before it arrives because they don't like announcing a set date and then having to move it.
So where in a previous road map did it show pact of the flame 0.5 update?
no, cause it didn't have numbers for updates at all
And now we are fighting about versioning, this is an odd debate.
So you're wrong?
You're asking about ultimately arbitrary numbers 
why would the roadmap say 0.8 for spring 2026, when the game version of 0.8 was already released in Jan 2025?
My bad. You're smart. I'm dumb.
we might get an update on the roadmap once update 8 is released soon
I do wish we got a more in-depth roadmap like the previous years though 
latest one is so vague
You know, dj that the devs have said the road to 1.0 is going to be heavily focused on optimisation/general improvements, so there's not a huge amount they want to promise outside of that ๐
I know but is auto-pick up off the table?
Why are smart people arguing with not smart people?
@static reef save your breath friend
literally all we know
if it's not in that roadmap, asking us doesn't help.
Nothings off the table, toast and CUB have said that, but there's no guarantee's it'll be there for 1.0
I am killing time before I go to the DMV 
