#the-tavern
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You can tell whoever wrote the survey has no idea about the modern gamer 😄
Enshroudeds probably my number two hours spent in a game cumulatively; but if you look at hours played over duration of time is number one.
as a variety gamer I felt like something was wrong with me when I was clicking "40+" for almost every single one
I have 19 hours on the worst game still on my collection. Everything I actually play is in the hundreds to, uh... smokebomb 😉
that was to save our dignity somewhat
should have been 10+ / 100 + / 1000 + / 10 000 +
I was thinking "only 40?"
i mean that is more than 40 lol
My gaming hours are my dignity
looking at my satisfactory and factorio counter ... OH YES
Lord knows I get none outside of gaming lol
Some of those games have hundreds of hundres of hours of content 😄
And for some a sad reflection of pain 
Neary 3000 hours in Skyrim.
I am at 571.8 in enshrouded currently
1k would have been enough, we're only counting the average gamer, not the fanatics 😉
damn, what did you do?
I clocked over 2500 hours in ESO in the last years of a failed marriage. 💀
I don't want to know how many hours i had in WoW.
Like I am used seeing bigger numbers for MMO's, but for singleplayer oriented games.
who are you calling a fan ... ok you have a point
Oh yeah those numbers can be mind boggling given how long its been out
Folks have literal YEARS in there
and random generated games like minecraft also have high replayability.
Played it countless times with different mods or builds.
You must know it out of your head by now 😄
i'm also kind of glad that back in the quake 3 and unreal tournament days there were no playtime counters
I played Skyrim as a Monk fir at least a couple hundred of those hours.
Have you ever heard of xfire?
Old chat application that kept track of your hours way way way back 😄
What’s everyones hours in the shroud??
ya, but never really used it
Base game stuff, mostly, yes. The Modiverse can make it a whole other game. Literally.
See Enderal.
hello
only about 200 hours so far
almost 300hrs (edit: since day one of early access)
yes
A meesly 878 here.
I know it will be more, seeing how the updates are going etc. Game is cooking.
Im around…. 1300. And got a tattoo lol
Yeah, this 💯
ive only had this game for 40 days but already clocking in at 350 hours... napkin math shows that theres only been about 960 hours since I bought it, I promise I sleep normally and have a job 
Just shy of 800, in the 790 range
How much of it is AFK though 😏
Basement life. I was unemployed for most of mine. Not getting nearly as many hours in now that im working again.
How much of it is falling whilst building?
Hush.
I build around that. Safety first!
I have fallen to my death sooooo very many times
Aye samesies
Idk actual AFK is probably around a quarter but functionally AFK (just roaming around my base aimlessly) is around half likely lol
The glider saves me from death falls more than it causes them, it's a plus in mine.
some chuck of it consists of me panicking to get out of the shroud after noticing I only have a minute left
@pliant quarry give us stat counters in 1.0!!! Deaths by gravity!
Haha, different experiences then 🤣
Sometimes in moments I don't pay attention, I jump and glide, and then notice I have no stamina.
frantically mashes spacebar when character brushes a tree a 1km altitude and starts sliding down..
Its time for Star Trek
Stay flamey flameborn
I just accept my fate and die
Also: jebus the trees in Blackmire can be nearly 2km tall if I am mathing right...
The only real time the glider itself kills me is when i hit an object/walls/whatever that i think is going to deglider me and spam the glider to save myself... only for it to not deglider me and i turn off the glider myself and fall to my death... because the CD to reopen glider in that scenario is too long 
I had sweaty hands today in blackmire climbing those trees.
I am currently building one of those trees from scratch........see you in a year🤣
was almost where I wanted to be and then I fell/glided back down 😅
I cant for the life of me build a natural looking tree out of blackmire heartwood without it making it look like a guy shrugging idk
build the basic framework then add/take away bits as needed and sculpt it. Takes practice but it works
Natural terrain is the hardest to "build" and have it look right in the end.
Other than a flat field or even gradient.
All player built things go through an ugly stage
it's a learning process. And stuff unlocks gradually yeah.
do one-handed swords like the enflamed sword drop from lvl45 gold chests in the water biome? i've been looting these chests for ages now and none of these dropped
the ones around Cromville?
yeah
idk ive been wondering the same too
Ive been struggling to find a 1h lvl45-50 sword from the chests there
but I think one of my friends got a nova
Look for staffs instead.
i've seen these older swords at lvl45 on public resource worlds, but i haven't found any of them from chests
probably just super rare rng
Therecare only a handful of weapons that can drop at level 45 and be upgradeable to 50
If you've seen them on Shroud Depot, then i can almost guarantee you will find them in the RNG, outside of that i cant say for certain whether they are ligitimately available. (Things can be spawned with cheatengine etc.)
got all of the staffs and wands already. also lots of two-handed weapons. no one-handed swords though. it's either very rare from chests or it doesn't drop from chests
4-5-6 from each type.
I more meant if you actively go looking for a staff, you'll get everything else, RNG in a nutshell 😄
yeah, it was either shroud depot or the public resource world.
yeah I always get a lot of staff and wand legendaries from them
maybe you're right and they are not available legitimately
im also struggling to get the final gambit from that one sicklescythe in the shroud lair there, its taking forever
(what does RNG mean im not savvy)
random number generator
commonly used for probability of getting certain items in games
and level building 😊 (altough not in Enshrouded)
Also how some games make LOTS of money.
I suck at games with an RNG, because Randy Random has it in for me 😉
i should have complained here earlier. just had a legendary spine of dalszul one-handed sword drop from the cromville throneroom chest
My luck isn't great either.
Yep .0000000000001 drop chance or hey pay us and we will give it to you
🎵 *"If it wasn't for disappointment,
I wouldn't have any appointment...:*🎶
Nahhhhhh, pay us and we'll up that .000000000001 drop chance to .00000000002!
you do not even not rng, just sell jpgs^^ I love star citizen, but their marketing is ... something else
Man star citizen I don't get. Never even looked into it. Just heard of insane prices like 50k dollars for a ship or something.
Have you even seen gameplay of it? They are not "selling jpegs"
what you mean seen? I play it each week, still I do not like their funding model
Think what you want of their funding model, but they are in fact making something amazing... for our grandchildren to play... 😉
Don't want to offend the game, because I don't know enough but with little that I do know. Not for me 😄
the most expensive I am aware of is 2.5k and that is meant to be used by around 30 ppl, not alone. still insane numbers thou
Star Citizen Introducing a $48,000 Ship Bundle, but Only for Players Who Have Already Spent $10,000
... ? source: IGN.
Meanwhile, at Star Atlas... 👀
late to party but is survey broken for anyone else? it asks age and gender and ends lol
I've wondered if they tally what weapon you use most and make that the rarest drop??, I'm having the same issue
bundle is the magic word here, that thing includes ALL ships. that is like saying you buy ALL cosmetics of another game at once
I just prefer the open book evil of CIG, to that of your average AAA game dev house.
Try refreshing? not seen anyone else say it this time around.
Ok, still 50K? Have can you defend that.
to be fair, could even be more by now since they are constantly adding more new ships
You can like the game. Even support it. But that is just something else honestly.
i haven't use a sword since the mountain biome. i'm playing wands and staffs since the release of the water biome
Like the community is fairly certain Elon Musk is one of the 48k buyers
we are? good to know
I'm sure the people buying things like that feel more like it's an investment in the game's success than it is a purchase of something within the game
If they are OK spending it...
Or they just have too much money and don't know what to do with it
same result
Using a VPN or anything?
nope
I don't mind the people buying it at all. It's the company allowing this.
And yeah, compare to the actual scam if Star Atlas. Pick your poison.
Got a different browser you can try it on?
oh, I think you if opt not to say gender it exits it, thats... not great
In the end, it's up to a company how they monetize their product.
trying on chrome now, its either a firefox thing or a bug when you say "pprefer not to say"
Because 10,000,000 30 to 40-something nerds literally threw money at their screens in the first funding pass
I know firefox works (it's what i use) Sounds very strange if it's the option though.
Yeah, it's a known thing that it does that unfortunately
I cannot defend it, this is as I said before what I really do not like about it. FYI (just checked): the most expensive one is currently 49.123,20 €
these questiosn truely ARE strange tho lol
Oh is it? How.... odd.
They asked for 2 million and had 24m in less than 24 hours.
The whole survey is a little all over the place 😄
Yeah it's a strange thing 🤷♀️
Truly: We have only ourselves to blame 😄
I like how "sleep" is optional in a given week!
update when?
that is not fully correct. after 24 h it was around 1,5 m and at the end of the funding time (6 weeks) around 8 mil, still insane numbers
that is to check if you pay attention
I hope it succeeds and not end up like ashes of creation or something.
I didn't pay attention 
I am not deep into ashes, but from what I know in comparison you can already do more in SC
I admitted it. I tapped out of the survey. Too many questions.
it's dead. They pulled plug recently.
They'll appreciate it if you even did part of it, they know it's REALLY long
I heard, but no idea if backers ever had anything in their hands @fluid plover
Yeah, they rushed release it to steam. And then it all fell apart.
SC backers can play for a few years now, not finished, but there is something
It "released" on steam in December, but was very bare bones. Definitely nothing close to what they promised, but the foundation was there.
If it had lived for a few years in live, it might have been able to get there, but alas
It sure had potential.
read their CEO opted out recently and then it all colapsed
It was big drama, certainly. Very rug-pull scammy stuff, but probably not worth diving too deep
Following those departures, the Board made the decision to issue WARN Act notices and proceed with a mass layoff.
There is something like the WARN Act, I don't know the details.
they weren't joking about that survey being long
No they weren't 😄
and weird
yeah the survey had some strange questions
soo how is your yacht?
I started it then closed after a bunch of questions, it was extremely weird
haha i felt like i was at MEPS again for any of you US military folks
lean over touch your toes then they show you where the while goose goes
kinda expected AOC to fail and go bankrupt
a studio like that can't afford to retain ppl, and that leads to the freelancer problem today
AOC looked great but every MMO is failing in the last 20 years or so except for a handfull
they hire someone real good for a short time like forever winter, doesn't retain them and can't uphold the standard
And New World is also dead afaik.
although in that case, kim jung gi died. and not many can match such a master. a similar thing happened to horizon zero dawn when mike nash took his own life
hopefully it gets sold off to someone
Meanwhile old MMO's like runescape etc somehow survive.
yeah the OG's
marathon couldve afforded to retain the freelancers who made the trailer but didnt. they planned to adorn themselves with borrowed feathers
and the freelancers don't really want to be retained mostly and i fully understand that. who wants to deal with HR, trust & safety and other karens
the result is that unskilled status symbol people get the retained positions, while the freelancers are worlds better, but choose to not be retained, so they wont have to work with corpo trash
practice is that they let their betters make trailers and bait for the game they dont have much to do with in the end
what i want is a declaration: "the people who made the trailer are fully involved with the game's development"
oh btw mike nash is "additional artist" of horizon zero dawn while he has fully designed all of the robotic creatures. i dont know him nor should i be vicariously pissed, but i kind of am lol
Highly skilled freelancers value their freedom, and knowing what has happened publicly at bungie over the last few years with the buyout and stuff, I can understand them not wanting to get involved.
I bet if those same freelancers were offered the opportunity to be part of a close knit indie studio working on something they're excited about, their answers might be different
But that's just a guess
I have a lot of thoughts on MMOs, as any of the regulars here probably know 😝
but what indie studio can afford them?
none, its a dilemma
but i think trailer bait is unfair towards the consumer
you dont buy the trailer
could be necessary, the prepurchase might pay the devs/artists to finish it
thats why ppl wanna see gameplay
they dont know why but they intuit that an illusion is involved
you could say that fumum vendere applies to gaming as a whole but i think theres a difference between chosen illusions and unchosen
I wanna see style and systems, I want to know that people have their heads (and hearts) in the game, and its not some corpo cash in. I saw one look at enshrouded and I was in.
If you guys are REALLY interested, I'd be happy to talk about it in DMs, but I have thoughts on the funding process and stuff.
It may or may not be a significant passion of mine 😝
well part of it was the german games grant right? whatever thats called
about what
MMO funding, indie studios, how to create innovative ideas and fund a studio sustainably doing it.
It's something I've been putting work in on for... reasons
arent leftie prop games swallowing up all the grants?
i heard that some of them dont even need revenue anymore
I dunno about the german games grants, but I'm in the US so I wouldn't know to research it
EU and canada have huge grants programs and cultural enrichment funds
they basically pay for loss of revenue
Yeah, there are lots of opportunities to research, that's for sure.
not if cultural enrichment is propaganda
in that case its funded by taxpayer and isnt required to have revenue
the purpose of fantasy is to escape reality,, not get more of it
some will never accept that you dont want to be in their sphere of influence
they see you as free real estate. you are unclaimed because youre not partisan
and that's why i escaped from him lol
And yes, I say this as someone who has, essentially, given up on humanity. I like individual folks. I get along fine with most individuals. But we, as a collective, are doomed.
10,000+ years of "civilization" and we don't even know how to raise our children, or deal with rich people's excesses. How to simply not fall for the lies of evil men
Apologies. I'll go find some other passing cloud to yell at...
Guys, are there lava boots or something? My tombstones are on lava…
Hello Guys
Hello
No lava boots, unfortunately.
Don't you all feel New Aera's are Needed for the Enshrouded . and New Races
Well I am not finished yet
Wow got like 4 questions into the survey and it was painfully obvious it's just collecting data about what products to market to your browser fingerprint. Have I run a marathon? Do I like salty or sweet foods? "trust the process" my ass. Keen Games either up to no good or getting taken for a ride on this one.
Wouldn't be surprised if they asked an agency to help and the agency made it
yeah I mean it's obviously 3rd party from the url
Just want to say that I’m feeling a bit uneasy about the survey that was posted here regarding Enshrouded.
First off, whatever made-up psycho-social profile-building the survey company is attempting should be treated with a grain of salt based on their cringey questions. It was uncomfortable to go through and I only did it because I thought it might contribute to the future of the game. Have I heard of Fortnite or Call of Duty?! Even non-gamers have, but I’m not going to answer in the affirmative because I like the taste of my Enshrouded without all those flavors mixed in. Gross.
Second, whatever costs this survey has incurred (so far) worries me with a sunk-cost fallacy to follow. That the devs will give this survey undue weight and force the results into the game, players be damned.
Guys! You already have something special here! You must know this, right? Why in the world would you not come directly to us to ask your questions? I’m not here to brag, but I’m a level 45 player and have completed almost every item in the game after a couple hundred hours of pure enjoyment. I’m willing to bet you know exactly who the other 1% of players at this level are. Why not invite us to a community roundtable with your dev team? Or some similar sessions where you can ask us direct questions and we can do the same. I’m sure most of us would be willing to contribute some of our time for such an endeavor instead of injecting some random third-party group of statistic nerds to the mix.
The TL;DR to my point is this: don’t mess up a good thing! Keep building the game your players love and we’ll keep playing it.
This may literally be the first game I ever 100%
whats the last Comfort lvl?
Hey all
Hello, Kakashi.
I am not sure. Personally at 109 I have almost 2 hours of Rested bonus. I have heard (but not seen) it can go to around 200?
Depot is like 96? Something like that?
is it just me or are there barely any armor drops? can imagine farming a set will take ages
Nearly 2 hours rested timer, for me.
Can ya change the fly up key to W instead of S, that shit screws me up often
There are 2-3 sets for each "build type" (1H + Shield, 2H, Daggers+Bow, etc.)
At each region you start unlocking the next sets, and there are like 5 regions but the first don't count. So 8-12 sets per category.
It is a bit limited, and thank god for the cosmetic vs. stats part.
has anyone got conifer logs i could have please? have a big build on the go i cant farm more 🙁
I want a hammer - not some voodoo themed cricket bat 😉
Go thee to the Shroud Depot
!depot
Also, is the Brazen Bull set the only one with frost resist?
I suck at discord, as normal...
yes. but i mean the dropchance of getting armor from chests is extremely low in my opinion. id say 90% - 95% of the time i get weapons only
No. There are 2 sets per category for frost resist.
You need to understand that this survey was designed with research and focus groups in mind. It's for people who are being paid to take the survey, and to that end they put in questions to weed out liars and people just robo filling the form to get money. This survey really isn't intended for an audience like here in the Discord, but the guy at Keen running it wants "comparative" responses from any group that takes it. Are they building profiles? Yes, in a sense. They're building profiles of the types of people who might be interested in the game, and technically yes, it's for advertising - buit not targeted advertising. It's meant to be more general, and the responses to the survey are anonymous, so it's not like they're profiling you specifically.
what is the pass for it?
Whats the other set Kraven
No password.
For Melee Builds, there is 1 for Tank, 1 for DPS 1H / 2H. I think.
And pretty sure that is the same for each tier. Each category has a set specific to the build focus. Staves, Wands, Daggers, Bows...
Guess I should research more, TY
I researched by asking questions here, and by pounding my face against the problem until I found the clue 😉
for springlands, it's one armor set, for revelwood and veilwater it's two, and for nomad highlands and kindlewaste it's 3 sets. tank, 1h, 2h.
same
Did you ask if there was a yacht? 
I do not think pounding your face against the problem is what is meant by "face your problems" lol
So, as it turns out, I was born so poor that such places are like Holy Ground to a Vampire. My skin bursts into flame if I enter the grounds of a Golf Course or Country Club.
Omg samesies
I haven't tested a Yacht, but, then, I don't know anyone with a yacht...
I didn't even buy a Space Yacht for Star Citizen.
I once saw a yacht so big it couldn't dock and had to send out baby yachts to shore.
There are Yachts that have docks inside them for multiple other smaller yachts...
i got alcohol poisoning on a pedalo boat
They're all Russian yachts.
Parked in ports somewhere 99.9% of the time, even prior to the beginning of "current events"
Anywho, they should add beer brewing to Enshrouded...
😉
Russian nesting yachts.
One time I saw someone on a fishing boat and I thought it was a yacht because thats how poor and uncultured I was growing up
Pontoon Boats are the Yachts of my homeland.
Pontoooooooon....
There should be beer and it should be consumable and it should give you a drunk unarmed melee bonus
Lake of the Ozarks is chock full of 'em
And occasionally make you miss with any other weapon 😄
Let me get smashed and smash people with my fists
But, back to yachts, there are in fact folks that own small yachts for various lakes. Mostly stuff that can be hauled on the road though, so... maybe yacht isn't the right word 😄
you mean sailboats?
Johnny Dangerously, my beloved.
I think this disclaimer should've been made up-front, instead of posting it as a news-worthy item to your community of players. I would not have gone through the process otherwise.
(Also, I've been around long enough to know that literally almost everything I do builds a profile, for me, specifically).
I mean, Toast pretty well explained it, I thought...
I'm not trying to create any argument, but I would not agree with that.
"Hey gang, we’ve partnered with a user research company to help us understand better what has drawn each and every one of you to become a Flameborn, and to get a better idea of your gaming profile. To that end, they are running a survey for a limited time which will allow us to sharpen our perception of how our community perceives Enshrouded and how to more effectively communicate on the game’s features."
I didn't feel uneasy about it, it seems to me like the team does a lot of things in good faith
He did clarify in the second post.
agree. im very paranoid
I really didnt find it as abrasive as others have. And no one has to do it
it was voluntarily so I don't mind
eh, it's something I've come across at work too though. You can have every seconds sentence repeat "Btw you don't have to do this." and it'll still cause an issue.
you get paid at work 😄 (I hope)
But he did not say: "You need to understand that this survey was designed with research and focus groups in mind.** It's for people who are being paid to take the survey,** and to that end they put in questions to weed out liars and people just robo filling the form to get money. This survey really isn't intended for an audience like here in the Discord, but the guy at Keen running it wants "comparative" responses from any group that takes it."
And he should have.
And then if you post a wall of text too big explaining everything, then less player will bother reading it in the first place.
I don't understand why it matters if it was made for people who are being paid
/genuine
because that's a different target group. So the questions are different. And the survey is made for that target group.
The weirder questions for example 😉
But why is that upsetting?
I thought they did say that. That it wasn't specifically for us but they were happy to have us in the mix?
hello to the community
Yeah the "it was made for paid survey takers" isn't the upsetting part, the upsetting part for some players is not understanding that it's voluntary.
I am not upset by it. But i've seen a few comments in here tonight since the post giving feedback in that regard.
I guess people are giving feedback on the feedback tool 🤣
🤷
I'm not interested in taking the survey. I'm also not offended by it's presence.
it's not like they said we;'ve locked the servers until you take it lol
Imagine if you can't play the game until you did the survey 🤣
Well, ping me when it happens and I'll take up the cause giggle
Would I really need to ping you about that? Wouldn't you know?
The survey boss.
Score at least 50 points and get a license to play the other day
Is it the first time Keen does such a survey?
Yes.
From what I've seen Malz is rotating because of it since hours on end, just because people all sudden turned doom and gloom right?
Of this type, yes. They did a small feedback survey a Looooong time ago focused on combat, if I recall correctly
Normally they also prefer feedback via thread in this Discord but only small percentage participated and mostly it was a loud minority (me).
I give my feedback (right here and there in the survey) out of love for the game. We've all seen the BS that flies around with companies going down the wrong path and I just don't want that to happen to Keen / Enshrouded. So this survey just feels like a wee little first-step in the direction of ... all that. Just focus on making a great game and talk honestly to your players. That's all. (edited for clarity)
Toast did mention that their main feedback methodology is talking to players and the upvote site
Oh I see, you're speculating that they'll no longer be able to act in good faith soon
Feels like my Tl;dr was right.
and this is why I complain with love! 

The upvote site is great in my opinion.
Gives a good indication of what the community wants. If possible or not.
I dont see those methods changing, but those are also not really ways to reach NEW audiences
Satisfactory also used it. And look how it turned out to be 😄
I think what we're seeing is some players feeling pressured to do the survey, even though it's been explicit that there's no pressure. But because of that perceived pressure, when they decide they're uncomfortable doing it, they feel like they need to explain it, instead of just... not doing it.
Yeah, featureupvote is great
It's a great tool. Maybe a bit upkeep for the moderators to merge posts etc.
I mean.
C'mon people.
The game is around the 80-90% "finished" line in terms of biomes.
Except they flip flop it now forcefully into a shooter, I think nobody has to fear anything just because they want to do a professional survey to maybe get some data out of it.
Could be that it'll have a direction, could be absolutely meaningless.
I think being concerned about the future of the company in today's world is valid, but I haven't noticed any indication that they'd let things take a turn for the worse
I certainly wasn't feeling pressured, but I believed the text said "we’ve partnered with a user research company to help us understand better what has drawn each and every one of you to become a Flameborn"
it's a shooter now?
hope not I odn't play with guns
Probably getting marketing data before release
Didn't you see the roadmap? They're doing a hard pivot to turn Enshrouded into an extraction shooter.
Thus why I said "except". 
yeah shroud mechs are gonna be so much fun
So hyped for this
Cheeki breeki
shroud mechs, shootey guns, but specifically not the ones you want. and uh... oh yeah, they're also adding boar ju-... ARTIFICIAL BOAR JUICE?! HOW DARE! ruined forever.
Can we all agree to take a sip of our coffee and relax.
I doubt they'll just do something "dumb" except maybe nerf mage another 10%.
I am still playing enshrouded tomorrow. I am relaxed 🤣
I'm chillin'
unlikely hyperbole is the name of the game most times
Can you imagine the warzone of Shroud Depot if it became an active pvp area
At least I feel now like I calmed the people a little wee. 
We're again at doing stupid fun here.
as long as keep inventory is on, if PVP is added... they should do that every april 1st. all day, no reset, pure PVP, keep inventory on. absolute chaos
no thanks
sounds like wow patch day
1 day without shroud depot wouldn't be terrible, and it'd be fun to see the chaos
chaos is overrated
I haven't used the depot
What is a depot
A good April fool's update would just be breaking the water again
Can only 16 people use it at a time?
they reverse water gravity for one day
😐
🤣 I was just thinking that
Our greenhats start to think alike, scary
Hello
my hat is blue though
Can't see blue, so it's green
what if I remove my hat??
Isn't your head half of your hairstyle?
Hmm what if for one day, every survivor and all players appear as capybaras
what if your bald?
there, farmer TP link
there, red and gold, I went to Malo Mart https://youtu.be/TNxJO2nu9cM
The magic armor is too cool
for one day all players are NPCs and their character moves in random ways uncontrollable
Sleeping in a bed causes you to sleep on the ground next to it
Something that would be nice is a Newel Post
What's that
...was about to ask too
I hope they do a fun and silly april fools joke
you know
the best april fools joke would be to deliver the first patch without any major issues. 
Putting all these AAA game studios to shame.
who is being grumpy now 🤣
Me? Never.
I'm just glad it's friday so my suffering ends in approx another 13 hours
and starts in around 58 hours again
Why is this guy called Toasty
Gnome sayin
Now I see, these gnomes are named after our CMs
one of the highest honors there is
Why is there a 4gb vram GPU gang role
Nvm I just looked at the channels and roles and it was at the top
Its what goes at the top/bottom of a handrail
Oh thank you
I know I’m quite late on this, but wake of the water is an amazing update
Enshrouded for the win
believe. you have good reason to
Hey guys, anyone have some good advice when it comes to server hosting for Enshrouded? Done a few before, but not for a long time. Wondered if anyone has a good idea of what kinda memory/performance is suggested for an ultra smooth performing server for around 5-6 players? Would love to hear suggestions on providers too!!
Hey have you asked in #server-support yet? They might be more helpful
Oop, I didn't see that channel
ty!
no problem
that survey....no tmi
It's 3:29 am over here, cannot sleep, time to noobin' around a bit in my single player. 
😜
Hey folks... new player, hopping in here for entertainment while my partner plays on the only machine that can handle the graphics... I'm stunned by some of the builds in the showcase channel. Y'all are super talented.
Treat yo self to a nice gaming rig. You deserve it.
haha.... my new graphics card is coming within 2 weeks... until then, we take turns.
Definintely agree! I can build stuff, but not to the degree I see some of the other ppl on here. So much talent 😄
but it's wonderful inspiration, and entertainment. I just spent an hour scrolling and looking at the pics, and I'm not done yet. now I have so many ideas
exactly I get inspired as well!
but not to the degree I see some of the other ppl on here
yet. but soon
I'm going for full completion of the game though so not too much building except for essential stuff for my 'village' amd all the workshop items.
I'm a more casual player... mostly interested in crafting and building. I forage locally and help where I can otherwise... but I mostly love going into areas the rest of the group has cleaned out and rebuilding it.
The server I play on doesn't get a lot of activity so I build up the base when I can, but I go questing most of the time, and when ppl do join, they're impressed with the stuff I've managed to stow away for everyone. 🙂
Most of my progress though has been on my singleplayer profile.
Nice! I joined with friends who have a dedicated server, and already had a decent start... I just got to join in. Once I get that graphics upgrade, I'll start a new character for progression.
yeah that helped me when I first started playing the game and had no idea what I was doing.. got help taking down my first root, which of course I died several times 😂 but it was still fun and I was able to retrieve all my items.
It helps me get a grasp on the game mechanics so I don't get so stressed when things get challenging. I know what to expect already... and how to squeak past it if I need to.
Enshrouded with others is a pleasant experience
It is. We play with good friends. and even when it's not my turn, I'm sitting in voice and watching.
Me and my friend are running a duo on a dedicated playthrough, he's a tank and I'm rocking wizard/healer
Hi I'm new
I think we're all kind of chaos goblins, class wise... we each went in intending one thing, then evolved to a mix of skills that doesn't really equal any class.
My friend loves being a tank and melee on any game he can, and I love anything magic. So that's where we're at
im brand brand new any1 looking for a new duo?
#lfg and also there's an official LFG server linked in #rules
I return from napland. I share my cheeseburger. I greet you all.
You monster.
It's not allowed to wake up before me 
are the red scythe skeleton guys bugged? they can hit you like 40 ft away
124 mm scythe, 40 range smth
smth?
naw thas normal for sickle scythe boss
I have an issue where the mill is unable to be picked up its beyond bugged. It claims it has force but their is no nearby force supplier. It also claims I have no recipes unlocked when I do (I've used it to produce items, and I'm at the new end game). Any suggestions?
Have you tried logging out of the game and back in?
yes, it's on a server. We've restarted the server 4 times and tried breaking it with an axe but it appears it must have a large HP pool?
Have you tried picking it up while holding the build hammer? (That sometimes works for me when something won't pick up)
wont let me I have the "Stop production and clear storage to pick up" yet no items are inside it and its not producing anything
I can DM you an image, tried that 😢
yeah, claims it has force, materials and output space, It says "no recipies unlocked" but I do (literally made another one and placed it and that works fine) but in the change recipe menu the recipes are in there lol
someone else on the server try to remove it?
yeah, bugged for them too
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Suggestion: Coffee plants shouldn't be harvestable until they actually bear coffee beans. It pissed me off to lose a plant before it was done because ALL OTHER regular plants use "harvest" as an "I'm done" indicator. Same goes for rice and algae. Why have harvest if not harvestable?
Morning 
oh no, not again


I returned.
In a funny way.
Mornin
Out through the in door?
Where did you find this dreadful gif of me in the morning after a night of shenanigans
me, every morning 
I'm barely awake, and that made me spit my coffee
good job Lili
They really do look like little burglars.
As cute as they look they are awful
Prince. Nice.
They do, I used to live in the countryside, and there was alot of these little monsters. Them being caught while stealing stuff is one of the funniest thing i've ever seen
Lost an entire flock of hens to raccoons last year
Really? We don't get them here. I'd love to see one IRL, they look like a lot of fun.
Nah they cause mayhem and will totally kill your cats or small dogs
they're menaces fr
My best friend has padlocks on her coop because every other latch they were getting through.
Killed half he flock in one go once
I believe it. Crafty little things with their funny little hands and fingers.
Yeah and the worst part is they dont even kill to eat - they will just kill to kill.
They is cute tho lol
They seemed to be killing hers so they could steal the eggs
I mean take the eggs!! But leave the chickens alone 
Wow, I had no idea.
They still look cute tho.
Kinda like koalas, but you don't wanna get them angry lol.
Actiually no
Koalas are terribly boring and sleep like 22 hours a day.
Theyre like counterfeit monkeys
True, but you really don't wanna piss one off 😂
think of them as foxes, smart, sneaky, and kills for fun
When i was a teenager they used to get into my garage
It's just a classic rock kinda night I guess.
Wow you guys surely talk much.
Show some respect I need to work occassionally and can't read everything after.

And thats where i would sneak out to smoke
get good
Yeah, the killing for fun part don't sound too great.
skill issue 
Wow pre 9 AM and already git gud
I'm all for it
Never get on my nerves. You just described me.
Hamscared
pokes Van with a stick poke poke poke
Fetches stick. Wiggles tail?
yes very scary
C'mon that doesn't count thats like giving a bat a fruit to eat
Ugh, fruit bats. We get millions of them things.
Look up at night during summer time and you'd think Dracula has invaded. Thousands of them out and about, flying around feeding.
previous place I lived we've had a nest of bats on the balcony, probably about 10 or something. Had to close the entrance to their nest about half way up because my Cats kept catching them and bringing them inside.
Waking up in the middle of the night because the cats go crazy and in complete darkness the bats flying around your head wasnt exactly a nice expirience 
Time to get a dog lol
just send Van in
good thing about bats tho, you can guide them to the door with a blanket (moving wall towards them) or something, doesnt work with birds.
or mice 
I will not be guided with a blanket, thank you all the same
holds blankee
Roger that, sending a bland cat to guide you
I submitted the bug report then forwarded the save etc in the automated bug report email I received, still not too sure what will fix it. I'm convinced it cant be broken
guten morgen
english only please 
salut jeune homme
please, I could be your fun uncle
come on, you're at most 6 years older only
Ola, me amigo
I am 7 years older than my oldest nephew
i'd sign for having you as my uncle though, none of my uncles are nerds 
CoolUncleUsernameBro
So now it's CUUB
So whats for today
I heard we do dumb as usual?
I already fetched a stick
what
lilibat is at fault
find another
pretends to throw a stick
Don't fall for that!
But if it were a coin though...
Cannot explain everything to you. You could also read after what happened in your absence. 
what are you good for then ?
we do not scroll up.
hell no
Has there been anymore major overhauls for desync/lag while playing on servers far away?
how far away ?
within a year
Enshrouded is the only game of this genre that has problems so it's weird that they wouldn't try to optimize it
Doomscroller
scroll up is bad kids
thats an interesting generalization
just a fact
Wow. Am I the actually only one who does this.
Means I am one of the cool guys. Petition to rename CUB and take his C away.
orlly ?
u play all the other games that are online and survival ?
and voxel
yes really, does it hurt you feelings that enshrouded needs to improve their interconnectability? having some weird aggression rn
Ueah don’t fall for that.
Careful with that in the internet.
Also... Dunno? Optimization is a ongoing thing and I can assure you they work on all kinds of stuff.
🍿
Yes every single other survival game has no problems with distance, self-hosted, or client hosted
naw I'm not mad just a funny generalization is all , not sure how you've come to the conclusion 🤔 😆
Labeling a simple, obvious, fact as a generalization is pretty wild. Enshrouded is not generally equally in any way to other game, it is specifically the only one with a connection problem with the problem being distance
the mental gymnastics are wild
I can tell I play with up to +3 people hosting no issues so far. 
Also they test also around the globe, some of us come from EU, US, etc.
well I never said it doesnt have problems but you said it's fact that it's the only game with problem but didnt mention other games that dont have the problem that you have played
thas why I asked how u know its fact
I'm assuming english isn't your first language because you simply using words wrong
Can we please stop such assumptions too
seems like u like to argue and not back up what ur saying 😆
You literally don't make sense
and ur first question wasnt even concise / clear
na, go crawl back in your hole tho
But we love spewing random stuff as facts
Good luck Duro! 
the universal law of the internet
For sure
I disappear for five minutes and you lot start bickering. Typical.
🍿 > @tame zealot
Picking at one of us is poking hornets nest
Van, we're not the mob you know 😄
I wouldn't dare. Unless it's about picking you, then I'm all for it 

Lemme at least feel as if I've got backup. 
sometimes.
really gotta question the sanity of this community if i ask if internet code has been improved yet and the crazies start getting mad about it
hey can you get off that soapbox real quick
I'm in a meeting and if I have to press a button in a hurry it's gonna be one of the big red ones
and then it'll be too late to talk about it
thank you
is he just talking to the air?
Specifially to you
na there's no way he's upset that I asked about the internet code
you're specifial
All can be talked about and he can give u answers, but stop drama.
no I'm annoyed at the fact that you hopped on here and started stirring the pot with the locals
they're my weirdoes, leave them be
Weirdoes.
Fits us!
thank you uncle
You're a nutcase if you think I did anything to anyone but youre threatening me is clinically insane
saying just - " orlly ? " triggered you that much ? 😮 😆
interesting...
Hello!!
this goes both ways
Shhhh, leave them be ^^
Morning D20.
Why is the moderator the single most toxic person here
why do you have to be so agressive in the way you speak to people ? chill, it's only a game 
"I don't know what you said but im going to ban you because im in a meeting"
Morning D20. How's it?
The popcorn I mean
is it the Dawg in you ?
flashbacks to the trainride with bad internet where we went political. Blues in a meeting, don't poke him now 
Mornin
hello there
I hadn't seen this one
I'll say it once but it's Friday, I'll allow myself the treat
fuck all the way off, you're not welcome here
Everyone down!
🤐
He's gone now.
oh boi, the friday treats
oh ok 😆
back to shenanigans !
I am sorry master.
I'll now proceed to keep peace in here. 

shenanigans - friendly shenanigans

trying to rage bait veterans is not a good idea
yh do something for once pls
I can't have a sloppy twin
I am sorry though you had to be part of this.
I mailed you cookies from the web browser
naw browsercookies bad, they screw up surveys 
I need a coffee, see you folks
You lot keep me from working, need to jump soon.
Just curious what D20 is about to say.
Oof, I havent had enough coffee. To enjoy that jerry springer level drama. But I hope everyone is well.
that took you 3 minutes to write down? 
Sorry that you came on to this lol. Hope you're well too 
never judge the lack of coffee
today in pictures
I had just woke up.
that was very cool though, wish I could say that sometimes w/o the risk of getting banned 
what a way to start your day right ?
Hang on, it's Friday, why you in work, CUB?
CUB just want to say i appreicate you and all the other Cms.
back in the day I'd have explained to the user that coming in here, picking a fight and strutting about like you own the place is not the way to behave, but I checked the user's youtube channel, this is a grown man, and I'm not in the business of teaching adults remedial societal behavior
/Unappreciated helper.
/Sobs in corner
Wait isn't that how you got me here, for childcare? 
I'll stop
Probably.
you know you won't
And we know you won't. Who are you trying to fool?
maybe he's trying to convince himself ?
lie about it until you believe it ?
or something like that
sounds plausible enough 

installing medication patch....complete
downloading coffee.exe
I'm booting up
C'mon you all know how it goes with new software patches.
D20 will get a bluescreen.
Or you both make a habit out of reacting derp to everything I say now.

hands out grass to the animals
derp it up Van
Who exactly does now qualify as such because normally humans ARE animals too
i don’t need to discern. Some can eat the grass others can touch it.
Can someone do my job for me today so i can be lazy and play enshrouded? I still need to fix my water from the patch lol
how much does it pay ?
I'd love to be hugged sign me in.
Because no one else does.
We share.
You do the work I look like I'd work
please no bluescreens for me. those mean a "72 hour vacation" that isn't fun.
Of course.
alright, gimme the papers i'll sign
I do actually enjoy my work, its just that sometimes it strains the brain too much lol
Broadly, interior design. Specifically im a technical expert and manage and facilitate construction documentation and detailing. Mostly for large scale commercial and multi-family buildings
that sounds cool, but I can see why it could be mentally draining sometimes lol
Currently working towards a 90% construction docs set, so im in the weeds of detailing how everything is built
can't be all fun and giggles can it ?
Haha nah
Designers love to come up with all kinds of crazy things and then i have to figure out how its built, more or less.
Theres some nuance i leave to the tradesmen or course - but i need to provide a pretty robust foundation and direction.
and make sure it's actually do-able i suppose ?
Electric meter fitter.
But today I only open up people for the idea to have electricity again.
I'd love it more to cut them theirs though.
Oh great I am at the coinstreet again today. 👀

why would you want to cut people's electricity ? does it spawn a coin ?
Cannot be a beacon of positivity if I am not sometimes mean
Or think about it like that:
I am part of the CM team for the public and get at times a treat to citate CUB from today
what
The survey is for players based int he US, right?
(I'm gathering this idea from some questions being asked, especially zip code and revenue.)
You took away someone's access to this Discord today. From time to time I take away stubborn customers' access to electricity. 
puting soccer in that survey is a crime
it is not strictly but seeing these questions you might very well think it
I think for players outside the US these answers will be less useful because it'll be harder to parse where anyone is from
They didn't even bother asking about the country. I guess they can't even imagine non USAians have computers 🙂
these are wildly different, please do not lump them in together
the survey company is also running this with a bunch of US non-Enshrouded players, so I think this is to compare apples to apples where possible
being that we hired them from outside the US, I have to think they're aware we mostly also have access to the internet
It's just my job.
I won't say more than that anymore.
I see myself as more of a gardener. I help little seeds grow into beautiful plants, and do my best to weed out the things that will stifle growth and threaten the garden
sometimes you water something, sometimes you use the garden shears
sometimes you grab a spade and uproot something and toss it on the compost pile and go "oh hell naw"
Sounds like Vogon poetry to me.
thanks for keeping the weed out of the garden 
well you guys are the best I got
I won't go into the details of my job, just so you know - people get informed 2 months in advance and there is plenty possibility to find a agreement.
It's not as cruel that we do such in a mood
don't put Van in there, he'll start saying random stuff again
whether that's praise or indictment is in the eye of the beholder
I feel most plants in here got it out for me. 
we love you as you are Van
Okay that means I am allowed to misbehave again
shenanigans 

Uncle's gone, let's rock & roll !
I mean CUB said - in other words we're special.
In his parasocial way of phrasing.
you're specifial
I eat your socks
I don't wear any
I'll find some
respect me, I'm 3 days older
cub said were the best hes got... but he said that with remorse

Sure hope not. I'm doing the survey right now bit if it is, what's the point? (I live in Sweden)
yup.. don't wanna see the worst part
allright, time for lunch. Whats it gonna be, unhealthy stuff made in the microwave or unhealthy stuff made in the oven 
The latter
unhealthy and radioactive ? or just unhealthy ?
your choice Flameborn
(enjoy ur lunch)
im gonna preheat the pizza in the microwave and then put it in the oven 
hell naw
radioactive and doubly unhealthy 
😈
7 till weekend
7 what? Apples? Oranges?
math teacher energy
Happy customers (for real)
Whats the Max level you can reach?
45
Ok tyvm
9x5, 30+15, 76-21, 200x0,225
Could've used bigger numbers but you get the picture.
why are you throwing math at me now? 
Next time someone asks more or less nicely I'll just put out word-salad and ask them to count the letters 
My way to show affection
You're weird. I like you. 
Back to ankle biting it is!
lifts feet up on chair good luck with that, weird puppy 
You'll need to get down eventually and I'll curl up here waiting. Looking at you judgemental and also... I've got the food.
my chair has wheels. I can get to the fridge or just lock the door behind me
And I just had lunch so you can guard whatever bone you have there for a long while longer 
I wanna see you roll into a room and lock it before I can enter too 
what is this
problem with the survey, look the screen , can't go further down, so cant validate this step, so i stopped it
can't put the screenshot but it's material posessed step 8%
numbers.
Math.
The current max level 
is that enough to get all nodes in the skill tree
No. You'll still have to specialize in a build. You can't get all the skills without cheating.
tosses coin in opposite direction there, easy. 
Good morning flameborn 🔥
I... You are...
Runs after coin but 
Good noon
Ah, a time traveler. Get him/her/them!
lol guess I’m early sorry bout that
Shh 🤫 I’m on a mission from the future
Though I just blew my cover
barely arrived, already failed 
I’m not the sharpest tool in the shed I do admit
don't be too hard on yourself. Time travel messes up the brain real bad. 
It really does
They say that to me too but I've got coins into Enshrouded.
Well I was at least part of the problem
I always whispered into one of the devs ear
Dev whisperer
Whisper to them keep up the solid work
barely arrived and already knows the way around Van colour me impressed

imagine the pain and suffering that caused 
I personally hope they keep up the fluid work as well.
Water 💦 pun love it
but not during ongoing build contests
Nono, no puns here. Only seriousness.
Pun redacted then
Good good.
why is there always someone to remind me of this tragic event
my beautiful cascades 
all wobbly

Wow.
5 minutes old and already into the community
Success on my end
I may get promoted one day. 
I highly doubt that last one
I quit if you're being promoted
Yay to the new tavernist though
Everybody point at the new guy in the corner me that’s me hi 👋
watch out, the spot you're in isn't stable
one wrong word and pffffffft, you'll end up like Ze Dawg
Looking forward to all the random friend invites
Naw, aslong as youre nice and funny, pretty stable spot. 
Be cool Qeynos be cool dawg
the list is long
just don't pick on people when big blue doesnt have time to deal with the drama.
cool dawg = get in
uncool dawg = GET OUT
do you like fennecs ?
I love all creatures
No u
What am I sus for?
for liking all creatures
or for no reason at all
I don't like snow for example
I just tolerate him
I accept your label
[creature noises]
hello you
[bonking noises]
All the feral creatures come running out of the forest
I always like to bonk tho
wait for @quasi saffron , best fennec in here
i love you brother, we friends
i was speaking of snow
🌨️
I'll let that one slide this time
I read this in the voice of Rolf from Ed, Edd and Eddy.
tripled
is it just me or is the tavern just mostly shenanigans, bromances and the occasional nuclear meltdown these days? 
IDK, meltdowns happen in any channel.
sounds about right
tell us what's in your heart, what would be the perfect tavern according to u ?
Everyone is sus
I want nothing changed 
/q
I was born that way
lies
you typed it in the wqrong place
ah that's why
my bad, i'm new to this
/q
F
bruh, some people are really condescending it's crazy
just got a dude on the phone, full of himself, no access to his system online since a week or so
Lately we been really party here
classic.
now ask him how he's got work done for the past week 
Thats how all love hate relationship start
he hanged up on me when realizing the issue
FACE ME YOU MORTAL HOOMAN
I heard that with my floppy haircut ears
I may ditch y'all soon too until monday. 
I am normally not here on weekends unless pinged
yeah i'm not gonna be around much untill sunday afternoon sometime either
And I am off work in 3
I will make sure to ping you occasionally tho 
@patent dirge don't you daaare
Almost off to weekend life is worth living again. 
whoop whoop

nothing more
I should rebrand
that's all we need
am scared
If you tease it like that, this better be an epic in the realms of LotR 
I'll go with Vanolipine and imagine a blue tree.
Lotta World of Warcraft Drama in short
Please no
That one is serious.
Get a better combination for that. 
At least you guys have fun.
Even if it may at my cost. 
Qeynos typing an essay for us
I just want to make friends I’m new here yes but would like to get to know people and game with others thanks for welcoming me here
We're sorry we will do better to be obnoxious
That's what we'd say if PvP was a thing I guess
No PvP in me
I miss PvP. In the meantime I remove working platforms and watch my mates fall into the void
Okay peps.
Maybe I'll show up later again.
Driving home.
safe travels, bye bye
That was a Fiat-full save
I prefer creating not destroying
can we have spear weapon some day ? 
Survey filled!
That was long.
i dont like sa greatsword I wish they change the fighting style of that weapon
Add your voice on Feature Upvote :)
It like you're going back in time the day u write your first Introduction of your thesis XD
how big bro
Glad you survived!
Yes, but I gonna need some chocolate now. 🍫
thanks bro
That was the day we never saw that very user ever again because it was lost to the feature upvotes
Kel is the bro we all wish for
You all wish for a bro who plays insane stabbity/zappity femmes? [taking notes] 😹
normal bros are boring bros. I like my bros weird 
Found your socks!
They're now all over the place.
And also I ruined your curtains for leaving me alone in this room with ur rolling chair.
yeah chocolate food with buff + jump enhancer 😎
ugh not again 
why are my socks wet you weird little fox?
Uh...
💨
Morning folks and apparently wierd little fox?
You never know what hits you when you stumble in here 
Oh yeah I know. Heck we used to have an angry vukah lady that would growl at folks here.
You could say that🤣
This is blatent bat erasure.