#the-tavern
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I said, "HEY!" I said, "Hey, nonny nonny and a ho ho ho."
Hey!
Kinda hard fight bosses when you cant see projectiles at all ^^"
Are you reporting a potential bug or saying it's difficult to see them? Zero projectile rendering means shader error; reboot the game and if that doesn't work check the pins in #troubleshooting ; if that doesn't work, make a post in that channel.
like the wyvern boss or what it was pikeman castle or what it was called. meteor shower ability you cant see anything coming, you just take dmg same happens with other smaller mobs at time like bombs and shourdbombs you cant see them coming but u take dmg. attacks are invisible
mobs makes animation but cant see any projectiles or aoes made by attacks
also rebooting game isnt really enjoyable thing to do all the time. it isnt even working usually when trying that
hello
The source of the issue is a corrupted shader cache which the pins in #troubleshooting give you the steps to permanently correct.
I have had the same happen a few times. Sometimes relaunching the game fixes it. If not, see above.
WHO Else plays as a solo?
Another Link!
I think? You guys spawn like mushrooms
Probably 500 of my 550 hours are solo lol
But here. ππ»
I think around half the time of 1k hours
Nothing but solo.
Currently solo here
People scare me these days. Everything is fine, everyone is having fun, then you suddenly discover they are fine with everything happening in the world right now...
Niceπ
π―
I try to see the world from the bright side. 
That light is the oncoming train, man...
Seriously. Every group I have joined in the last decade has gone to #$%& due to, well...
All I wanna do is liveβ¦ as an Elf in a tree π³
gestures vaguely at everything
And beneath that tree will be me, living wolfie life. πΊ We will make a critter-people village.
I have Hope to find good people to join with one day
Like that? 
The forest critters are my kin
They must be juiced.
Indeed I am
Well hello I live in wallets. 
The boars shall have their time in the grass
serious question we are on a server like 5 people that said we gonna play,but most of the time we are like 1-3 people does it matter if we do quests and like what we get to do on the top right,will that affect the experience of the other players that didnt do the said quest,i saw bosses can respawn so thats good but would like to know should we do something else till they join,like grinding materials?
It may affect the experience in "stuff may unlock before people knocked doors", but they always could repeat those quests and yes, bosses & roots do respawn after half an hour ingame time
ok thx
And if they quest ahead of you, you can do any missed major quests (the Journal has a section for missed quests). So you can do it on your own time or make them come along with you. XD
I've been hospitalized for 3 days. That's 3 days I have not glided, I have not killed, I have not built. In short, I'm fairly miserable
Hubby got an alpha key for "sea of remnants". He's so excited. He's a been gameless for a while.
Hope it works out!
Haven't heard of that game till just now, is it any good? Or is he not allowed to talk about it because of an NDA or something
There's info about it out there. It's a turn based F2P gacha RPG.
Yeah I tend to avoid gachas - too preadatory for my tastes
man, what a day.
Agree
Same. π«
yup
Okay, now we've got that sorted, any one got cards?
i DO have a lot of magic cards?
but do these cards do magic
yes
It doesn't start until the tonight so I'll tell you later lol
I have Star Trek cards. New set coming in the 18th!
I have On Cinema at the Cinema cards.
I don't know what gacha means. I just know it's a pirate game
Gacha is a type of game where you can spend money to unlock characters, weapons and other things in the game through a "lootbox" style mechanic.
Ah. Well he better like boring cause our spendy days are behind us π
Hello All. Im reading a lot of freezing, locking up and restarting PCs in the troubleshooting section, with no real answers on any upcoming fix for it.
I've been playing since EA launch and never had those issues until recently. Its random, and happens one of two ways, instant freeze (doing whatever) and restart of the pc. Or, the game will slow to 1/10th it's normal speed then freeze within a minute and restart the PC.
Are the Devs aware this is happening? I cant find solutions thst work at all. Sorry to post this here, but #troubleshooting hasn't helped.
Hello. The number of people experiencing this appears, to me, to be quite low. I certainly have no such issues.
Most likley, if system is rebooting, you need driver and/or firmware or BIOS updates.
<- Not a dev, just a tech support flunkee who can't help himself.
I keep hearing that but I keep my system updated.
Fair, and again I am not an authority on this, just giving my perspective.
No worries. π
You're positive you're not overheating? have you tried reseating your card if it's possible
Its the only game I play that has this issue. I play quite a bit of varied, heavy usage titles.
Gotcha. Understood. I'm the same way
And it's only started in the past couple months.
PC shutdowns (that is it turns off completely) are usually electrical or hardware issues; if you have 13th or 14th Generation Intel you may be having chip degradation damage (look up Intel voltage issue) that cannot be reversed, sadly, but the chip can be replaced under Intel's extended warranty at no cost to you.
I run and amd system.
Good call. ;) I'm all AMD and have had zero crashes so I can't explain personally what's happening.
Well there's your problem!π
7900, 64g and a radeon 7900xt
At that point I'd start eyeballing my power supply and motherboard pretty closely.
Lol it's been much better than my prior intel and Nvidia setups and much more cost effective.
If those were an issue I would experience it in things like Star Citizen.
You've uninstalled and reinstalled? Try to different drive or verify files?
Unless for some reason, Enshrouded has some serious effect on those it shouldn't be having
Verified yes. Uninstalled and reinstalled no.
Enshrouded is a demanding game with settings maxed and while it may not be Enshrouded at fault, it could be that the work stack Enshrouded demands is revealing an existing issue within your hardware.
I can give that a go, but I dk t see that really being the issue.
That's why I'm eyeballing electrical or other hardware issues.
Yeah but you know the tech support rules you got to reboot hardware and reinstall lol
The one time I had a crash I hosted for +3 players, it happened after 15 minutes.
But it was just, all lights out, PC restart.
I get it, but I'm betting Star Citozen is much more a hog considering it isnt optimized as Enshrouded.
Yep...
And I'm just in a single player server. Lol
I wish you luck. Have you filed a bug report?
Then you have done what you can. Let us know if you find others who have this problem, I'm sure the devs would be interested to see more.
@atomic lion did you need something?
You have no chat history and just joined and immediately sent me a FR. Gonna say its a bit susβ¦
If you think you've got a bug, you should check out pins and recent chat in #troubleshooting ; if you don't see a fix there, speak up in that channel. But if you mean beds specifically, the interact space for them is in the air above the mattress, a recent change we hope to see hotfixed/patched.
Nah it's just sometimes after death i can no longer pick things up/interact with stuff
That sounds super irritating. Hit up #troubleshooting and check the pins and recent chats there to see if it's an issue others are having, and if you don't see that please speak up (and maybe file a bug report).
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"Bluebell" is almost certainly some AI or scam sending friend invites, FYI.
Zero comments here, vague profile, pretty gal doing duckface, etc.
Please don't report these in the public channels. We have a ticketing system for that - #discord-support
And please provide screenshots of the DMs, as we don't see a comment here
Apologies...
Already blocked and deleted. I'm an old man, I don't know how to discord lol.
For future reference. π
Sure... that said, I mean, most likely I'll just keep my mouth shut. I work in IT. I have enough interaction with ticketing systems π
All good.
Yeah, I'm right there with you.
Sigh
If we have game element ideas, where do we put them?
is it not possible to make whatever shields you have recipes for at the current level you are?
I like the look of some of these lower level shields, but I dont want to craft a level 4 shield.
not yet, but devs are working on weapons cosmetics which should probably help
oh great!
hello everyone
Kinda wish they did cosmetics differently. Like, If I scrap a weapon or armor or shield that Iβve never seen before, I should be able to use it as a cosmetic from then on
Hey all.
π«‘
blorg

Do they have a new road map for the year yet?
Type /roadmap and see
I dont see the road map tab anywhere in the server
Enshrouded Roadmap
Don't see a feature you want on the roadmap? Create a suggestion on Featureupvote!
They meant the slash command not a channel
Oh okay thanks, sorry didn't realize I could do that
Live and learn
"hanging on the edge of tomorrow~"
oh wait probably not the song...
Morning.
Mornin β
shares seasoned fries.
I take 2 handful.
Need some logs for the fire...
Very tired day. 
Mornin 
What if I am a girl
But why not directly say people.
Sorry wiring in my brain is off today. 
because thats how i talk, its my culture
i dont have any interest in changing that
its a respectful and informal term
I grew up in the 90s in the US where any person of any gender called any person of any gender "dude," I get it. XD
today... good one π
can deal with the "dude".
but the one people use these days drives me up the wall. whenever every sentence starts and ends with "bruh" i wanna reach through the monitor...
B... B... Bro?
When is your wiring even there?
π¨
i think its all derivative of old english
where the old rule was 'use the masculine as a general'
Normally cables ain't snakes that crawl away
Have you checked?
Runs after cables.
My cabbagels!
Or so...
Wait. I think Cross is planning right now to reach via the internet out to me. I am hiding for now.
Couldn't he just walk over to you^^ Not like Germany is that big
Listen.
It's still 8 hours by car from one side to the other at least.
Most of that because of traffic but yea.
And now imagine walking that
Its not the size of the country that matters, its the quality of the food
Can I put food in the gas tank?

i just moved out of the american northeast and into the southwest, and the lack of perpetual depression inducing snow is amazing
Isn't that far or so^^
gasoline is the most calorie dense thing there is
it's car food
Meanwhile me: would be glad to see snow once a year
rude

dude i spent 35 years collecting arthritis and salt in my soul
That's the thing.
I don't need to do the shovelling.
there is nothing fun about holding steel tools in the winter outside
you ever knick yourself in 20 degree weather? its horrible, you like just dont stop bleeding
but not in a dangerous amount
just like... in a "i'm making a mess" way
Okay snow rage enduced today, I am sorry I mentioned to like it.
20 degrees is a nice summer day in the netherlands
More snow is always great
celcius, that is 
..they're all fictional
we dont use those
20 farenheight is 10 13 degrees under freezing
causse its like 32.5 or some shit thats freezing temp
I am fictional too
That read like poetry. π«° π«° π«°
wouldnt it be nice if the freezing point would just be 0? Oh wait...
But what is after 0?
Super freeze?
Exactly. 
The freezing point of water is too arbitrary for me, I prefer Kelvin.
Let's just use Kelvin for everything 
No negative numbers
See, they get it! Meli you and I are friends now, even if we never meet again.
we should all go back to thermoscope
no more numbers at all. If ice then cold. 
I'd just say we ban all means of measurement, it's restricting.
We just make them up now.
I go now out into 2k argos
just memorize this handy equation
I make friends now by joking around?
x Β°F β (x β 32) Γ β 5/9Β°C
If I can ONLY modify my world difficulty from the world list why bother having a difficulty button in the menu?
memorize it
to see what it's set at on servers you join for instance.
memorized it.
aaaannd its gone
my group server is so close to being done
we're at the dragon
then its just veilwater after
I very much rather learn x + 273,15

unfortunately its so literal that in order to 'relax' so i can get back to sleep i'm gonna go play a calm game of league of lengends
it's because of the winter that i am like this
Lot's wife turned into you lol.
"just Veilwater" still took me 2 weeks. 
1.5 of it spent digging up coin.
Yes
when i was younger i wanted to make a christian black metal band that was called fire and brimstone and there was a song called 'Pillars of salt"
So brutal heheh.
that inspired it all
the old testament really is brutal
the she bear's revenge
good morning flameborns
dude... thats one of the harmless ones comparatiy xD
How do you dare to call this morning good I needed to get up
I shall call it how I want to call it 
Woke up with a smile, it's not too cold outside, no mails in my inbox
it's a good morning

It's cold, my heating is out again and I need to work.
somber phase
you'll be fiiiine
Daylight has returned once more. So has work.
My motivation on the other hand... 
I don't remember seeing you motivated for anything else than shenanigans in the tavern though
not surprised

It's the only joy I have left untill the snow is finally gone and I can get back on my bike 
also shenanigans π 
put skis under the wheels
as kids we used to remove wheels from our skateboard and were sliding all over the streets when the snow froze
fun times
Sounds like fun.
At this age tho, when I fall I crumble 
I fall I tend to bounce even at my advanced age.
there is a severe lack of shenanigans here today

yello
Orange
damn u got me
How you doin today sir?
purple!

this I expected
for some reason went to sleep at around 3, so today is a liiiiil rough
ouf
I need to do dishes and I don't wanna
I feel this hard although lately its more an issue of sleeping all the way through the night.
Needless to say, a lack of sleep makes a work day rough.
I know I know I am slacking
You know what?
That's when I go to bed normally and wake up at 6 AM for work.
Yesterday I sleeped at around 1 AM and this night was more rough than ever
Sleep is bad
Your consistent lack of sleep may explain much π
this explains why it's so hard to follow most of what you say 
oh J Hart beat me to it
I've got the rabbies and are willing to share.
You guys may make me this way the next prim.
Good morning
You wake up at 10:30 AM
No thanks, that sickness is on my "not to catch" list directly next to the marburg virus
Okay you'll be the first one.
Be open for new experiences, Ao. 
Would never flex with image perms
Howβs the building community doing π any new crazy stuff
Only if the experience doesnt stop me from having other experiences!
Always! Seen the pirate ship someone build? 
π not yet but that sounds sick lol
I'm doing more digging than building these days... π
Yoooo thatβs a whole island lol
Yar har fideli dey, a Pirat is always free
Imorthalir has crazy builds
only crazy stuff
we don't do regular here
regularly crazy too tho

I doubt that
Look at this floating ring above my head.
It's not drawn
clean up ur wall
It is clean
there's a white spot
Ectoplasm

I'll throw you in a meeting if you insist.
might be more interesting than what i'm doing rn
That explains your activity. 
Whats an endgame bow for heavy crit
Yea some builds are insane π mine look like a square Tetris base lol
casually throwing threats around
Everything started with Tetris though
yep, if i'm in here, i'm either bored at work, or doing boring tasks
Well... It was pong but
lemme build a buildeeeer
I'll bite you and get you my rabbies.
I read that like builπ¦
that's intense
free PTO 
I taste bad tho. Just saying.
All hoomans do
Unlike Fennecs, you taste like chicken 
I'll bite you. Grrr

Enshrouded Zoo has open today
Is it dumb to build inside the snow area π when my flame is only level 6 lmfao
Probably. 
Not dumb but challenging
Will it stop you? 
I think not
Imagine, I am freezing to death in my IRL base(ment) cause our heater goes down every hour
Don't need that in fiction now too
I enjoy exploring so I ended up gliding to the top of a mountain and said F it Iβll alter here
challenging 
Best to mark spots.
I do that too.
I do that alot. And then never actually do anything with it anyways.
Not faulty, lazy
I got my main base project only like halfway finished after 400 hours 
I am not even at 20% after 1k
Re do's are at fault
building never ends
you might even go back to areas you thought were done, and remodel it entirely, just for the sake of it
the worst and best part of it 
I personally love it hehe
w time and practice, you develop new skills, get different ideas
it's the beauty of this game's building mechanics
and im here for it
yeah. We about finished "updating" our central square now, at the cost of not expanding at all in the past month

Its way prettier now but that was a lot of work 
you're playing w friends ?
the result is worth it i'm sure!
Usually yes. 

Wanted to send you a screenshot and realized I didnt even take any recently 
better idea, ima send you the IP lol
LOL
Ugh. Great. You guys force me to tour you both too... 
Sometimes in the future
yes 
But I warn you.
You're not there to judge just looking no touchy.
yeah, just looking no touchy, who are you, my ex? 
lick Van's walls, that will annoy him
She speaks from experience. 
best idea i've so far today
i've seen*
Good thing there is no lick emote
with the new stack system, i can bring alot of gnomes w me
hide 'em where u won't expect
π
Good thing I've got permissions
I see you adapted my ideas. Hiding gnomes in each others bases has been a thing for 6 months now on our server 
probably longer I dunno when I started that
yeah it's a classic lol
we were bored someday with a friend and we simulated a gnome invasion in one of our altars
they had ladders, siege weapons and so on
Hi all βΊοΈ
Hello
Hello
Howdy
all hellos and how do you dos and no actual conversation π
severe lack of shenanigans like I said

one of these days it seems.
Last time I tried I got bullied by blue and orange, purple and melons
you should be here on an update day, it gets bonkers
Conversationstarter:
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Whats your favourite Terrain block?
-
Fav. deco element?
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Fav. NPC and why is it Cade?

- Dirt.
- Scrap lamps. Not yet available but I'll make em.
- Because I can shove Cade into the Shroud or drown him.
I have, Veilwater release 'nam flashbacks.gif
- the glowing blue stuff for making blue lumin blox I firget the name
exterior?
count me in on the lanterns. I need lanterns.
One more for the list
for me its:
- Springlands tall grass (whatever thats called in english)
- The small wooden crate, perfect foundation for all sorts of other deco elements and fits basically everywhere
- Its Cade.
that seems rather rude
I have no iterest in Cade's pickle and I am surprised you are openly discussing it
poor Cade.
I hope she knows the joke. 
I mean how else would he get a Soul. joke about redheads not having souls 
*redhats
true
Hi
Good morning friends!
But it's noon. 
bonkπ¨

same ol' joke come on Van 
Anyone know where the survey URL is? π€£ (#news message)
If you think about it.
I've already made every joke in here.
At least twice.
MIA
Damn, I got some feedback for them π€£
Yeah CUB, where IS the survey link? 
tell them you got a yacht.
It was one of the questions.
I've been writing it all down in my steam review atm.
wait, the questions aren't about the game? π€£
I am not telling them how many yachts I have.
Theres obvious "anti-bot" questions in there.
It said that there are some personal questions though.
But that ones funny
"Are you a bot?" Click this checkbox if you are not a bot.
Yes
π€
I love those anti bot measurements.
Some I really struggle with. "How many bicycles do you see?"
This commend haz ben made with AI
does that one mm of bike tire still count as bike - starts sweating, AM I a bot? 
No it also asks how much tires your car has now shush. 
exactly π€£
We may get a new one today.
But that depends if you agree with me in feedback. 
We have enough coins
you got your coins!
leaking interna again are we? 
dropping later
waiting for the East Coast to wake up
I was just messing with you but great to hear! 
I am central and I am awake! Ok from the wrong side but still.
you're not seeing the light at the tunnel, you're the one holding the light!
Good morning, cuties! Last night hubby surprise date took me to see the Death Stranding live orchestral tour! Wow what a cool thing it was, and I woke up in a nice mood. πΊ
Glad for you. 
If you find mine tell me where it is
Uh... Being honest, they're one day behind schedule by now.
Not really science to do the math they'd do it today. 
I see you have lost your wit. 
Also why do we wait for the west coast.
What about the east coast
My offer to bite you with the rabbies still holds
y'all got your easts and wests confused I think 
I am putting a captcha joke in the channel pets using bikes and borzois. We have a borzoi so I thought it was funnah
I mean one day captchas will be AI too
One day you are gonna be AI 
Too late
One day we'll be the captchas
I might be AI now?
Black Mirror Style story, your AI is just gonna come to you for permission to do something, you literally are the captcha.
ok guys..mind numblingly mining...be entertaining to offset the boredom..
dont forget to turn up mining/loot yield or you'll be down there forever.
Sorry tried my best Myst, people do not respond
π
π
It's hard when my plethora of choice emojis and gifs aren't allowed, but I'll try.
What's invisible and smells like carrots? ||A bunny fart.||
Why did the chicken cross the road? ||It was possessed and the chicken was an exorcist.||
What's black and white and red all over? ||A shy zebra.||
What's black and white and red all over? ||A panda with diaper rash.||
What's black and white and read all over? ||A newspaper.||
You are slowly earning the Bart Simpson treatment
Somebody has to keep you in check 
For that theres the men in blue and their purple assistance vets
I was talking about your ego 
Have you seen it?
error 404
See
Sure, Mr I made them make Coin 
At least I put them to good work, what do you have to show
See, your ego is inflated now

That took awhile 
The inflation?
The answer?
You getting my joke?

Anyway clock off time
Jokes ain't get better
ah black and white and red all over jokes
classic old school humor!
Back when I smoked cigs, if people asked me for one I'd ask them to tell me a joke; usually they couldn't think of one so I kept a fistful of these bad boys ready to rock.
goobye twin
For some reason running around collecting stuff never gets old.
Started playing Dune a bit. They just dropped an unpate so.
But pretty much pegged in that game. LOL
WHAT?
LOL. Just fully decked in tier 6 stuff. solo
So basically nothing "Better" for me to get ATM.
.. I solo.. And for some reason have a mark 6 carrier... o.O
Plate carrier? 
Ornathopter
I have almost 500 hours on halo on my PC, way more on Xbox when I had that, just doing the same exact thing with friends
You're not talking about Enshrouded or Fallout 4, are you?
shares blueberry bagel.
hands Kelinyx their glasses back
nom nom nom
Oh that wasn't an eye issue, it was a brain issue.

It's a cool game. They are dropping more content so. That's good. That was the problem /w the initial drop. End game was bad. Got grindy./
But if you like Dune it's a pretty cool game.
Hello everyone! Don't mind me. Just checking off the final task on my "Get Started" list for the server. Carry on.
[wildly offended] 
Just comes through here like we don't matter at all 
Doesn't even share bagel. π₯
hi guys, anyone have this issue with twitch drops? i watch all required hours but for the helm it gave me error: This reward is no longer available.
I was able to claim all the other items except the helm which is the best one haha
I've heard simply restarting steam fixes this.
oh ok thanks i will try that
Remember the item is also available as a quest, but end game zone.
ohhh good to know thanks
any hispanic comunity around here ?
help, I'm too stupid to find the language servers rn 
missed the Twitch drops window... is it done forever or will I get another chance later?
afaik, twitch drops are implemented in the game after the drops by quest.
You can get the items ingame through a quest (talk to the huntress)
or digging around the map to find the items.
thank you
O.o You mean the whole channel? #language-servers
I swear this does NOT show up in my channel list on the left hand panel! No idea why tho

do u want me to give u a link ?
The very first Twitch drops can't be obtained in game, at least not in the Twitch Purple variant. That's the only one you can't get anymore.
I'm gonna sue you (well not you, guess you weren't responsible) 
And me thinking Keen doesn't do FOMO. π€£
Even if you did, you wouldn't get much.
a mean for the server @patent dirge
It was only that once and they definitely won't do it again. Was their first foray into Twitch drops, so they didn't know what they were getting themselves into.
I was trying to help you out, like Malzian did, I just can't seem to find the servers I wanted to send you in my Channel-list
But thank you nontheless! 
You asked and I was like "Sure, there are language servers.. goes to grab link where the f... are ... what... huh?
The channel is in the "Welcome" section with the rules and stuff.
No more fancy new colors for wasting my internet bandwidth by minimizing a stream in the background while I do other stuff? 
I only have the rules 
Strange...
@signal ocean Permissions issue?
I even checked the settings with the channels and all, there is nothing else there I can select to show up from that menu either.
I called in the big porcupine.
or maybe i'm just too stupid to use discord. this app eludes me anyways 
do we have date when the 1.0 release?
Fall.
uuuh
No date. Autumn.
man i want to jump in with group of friends.. i cant wait
Maybe I can finally do the mission then that seems to be on the other side of the end of the map!
last time i played 1 year ago
Alright now... I had to step away for a bit. I can be rude, but you really have to earn it from me. And I love bagels, just about any way you serve them.
this in server settings maybe?
I mean clickl on the drop down next to "Enshrouded>"
Oh my gosh yes.
So I am too stupid to use Discord π€¦ββοΈ
Why does this app have to have settings spread out like that tho 
tbh my back up plan was calling in Toast because young people understand these things
young poeple don't know how to troubleshoot anymore though π
easy answer, it was poorly put together over a decade by people who built things before they wrote documentation
but that describes all of software development tbh
I should know. I do that too

But its always easy to throw shade on something you arent responsible for 
My code is perfect, you just don't understand... π
Business asks for feature
I implement feature
2 years later they ask where and how to use feature
I say "check your specifications you had sent me"

Discord feels like it was made by a coder with a split personality that spent half of his time on a mobile device and the other half on a PC π€£
They named their Social Chat app "Discord"
What did you expect??? π
Actually, since I use the Samsung Z Fold, it almost feels like it was made for that phone before it was popular.
Well even some time before it was released...I think Discord was out prior to the 1st gen fold, but it wasn't exactly like this π€·
"These weird questions exist because this survey is something we are sending to a wide range of people, " - Disclose how this helps the game and I'll reconsider. The questions remain super unrelated and I feel like I'm being setup for a magazine subscription or being included in identifying a regional demographic preference for magazines to subscribe and advertise in. Til I get some transparency, I'm not completing that survey regardless of how amicable it's sold.
:/ got through two questions on the survey and "Survey Completed - Thank you, Thank you for taking our survey." I think it broke.
The page took so long to load I thought it might have been a credential harvester π
hello to all
I mean, we're really not trying to sell it to you. If you don't like it for whatever reason and don't want to do it, that's totally fine. I get that some of the questions feel really weird, and I think it's understandable to be skeptical of what any company says, including ours.
It depends on what questions you're referring to. The ones at the beginning (like asking if you own a yacht) exist solely to statistically check for liars, which is a common problem when giving out paid surveys, people giving BS answers for all the questions. If someone answered "yes" to all of those, for example, they'd clearly be lying.
try "Copy Link" and open it in a private browser window
That's... frustrating. Does it persist if you open it in a private window?
Oh, the survey isn't about the game?
Weird, but I shall try.
No it is about the game, there are just some questions that aren't directly related to the game because it's a very in-depth survey
Haha! Nope, still same two questions and back to the same "thank you" message.
Only questions asked as age and gender both times. So funny.
Trust nobody these days, unfortunately. Other than maybe friends and family. I mean, not mine, but maybe your own...
Thank you for the response and I can respect that. I get the 'why' for sure, and at the same time feel that the effort toward validating the surveyed is unnecessary. Especially for those of us on the games discord channel...we're fans for sure and want to see nothin but success for the game...justifying the questions by filtering out liars feels like a backhanded reason to me.
βHave you flown an airplaneβ¦β question was to make sure I like having a glider in game. I see. Ok. lol
Uh, why is the survey asking for my Zip Code?
Try using a browser other than Chrome. It worked fine for me on DuckDuckGo
Don't use Chrome.
oh! Lol. Then I got nothin. π
All good.
Got half way through and it said connection was lost? Tried again and same thing happened.. idk π€·
Youre too old π
LMAO!

The reason is that this survey is also being given out as a paid survey to people who might not care or even have heard about the game, and those questions exist as a filter to ensure that they're giving legit answers.
My coworkers who wanted to share this survey insisted that we keep it the same for every group we shared the survey with, that way the data would be consistent and easily comparable between groups. Like you said, though, it means that some of these questions are not optimal or necessary when giving out the survey to our dedicated players.
Survey is like "naw, no way people THIS age are playing vidyagames"
Oh golly!
I'm just messing with you, no idea. but.. maybe? 
Ahhh, so some got paid while others gave the information freely?
Haha all good I know you were.
Some people are getting paid to take it, yes. People in research and focus groups.
I'm gonna say I've never heard of this "Enshrouded" game π
Can I give an endorsement instead? Lol. "Hi, I'm Ro0ster, a retired 54yr old gamer with two boys in engineering school who also love to play this amazing game. If you're looking for an open-world survival crafting game which all others should be measured against, Enshrouded is it."
Totally believable.
Ahhh I see. That would of been fun. Plus it would of been extra food money.
I mean... You can just tell your friends that...? π€·ββοΈ
Lol, already have. They're all now playing on our dedicated server. Good times and it's fun to see their excitement for it.
Got them off the Vahlheim bandwagon
I have to admit though, I did enjoy Valheim's structural integrity system. Kinda makes you feel like what you're putting together matters more for some reason.
"Select all the games and logos you have heard of" - dude, im a gamer, where is my "select all"-button
There was that for sure...the structural integrity mattered.
"listen to music on a streaming service ..." =_=
I listen 2-8 hours music a day ... but not streaming service π€£
My favorite was asking me if I "sleep" during an average week
It asked me if I like grey π€£
best color 
I know. I immediately thought of the Neutrals from Futurama. π€£
Relevant for age identification. Weird, right? But from a real-estate perspective, the younger generations lean to a grey tone home interior contrasted against the GenX and Boomers who favor other colors or more natural tones.
Generationally, and generally speaking that is.
Gotta be real asking my postal code is extremely weird
Yeah ... though so too. But π€·ββοΈ
Everyone look at the old gamers point and laugh at them donβt they have some Jeopardy to watch or some pudding to eat? Get off the Internet grandpa youβre using up all the bandwidth!!
doesnt make any sense since they have no idea where you are from tho. Lots of countries have 5 digit postal codes, or 4 digit ones. this is not gonna be relevant whatsoever
Canada has extremely specific postal codes that get you within a block
then enter a random 5 digit number 
I'm just not gonna do it lmao
omg ...
so they ask you what games I played. I selected a LOT.
And then it asks, for each game give the hours.
I tap out π€£
that's even worse.
but I don't remember how many hours I played sims 4.
Or skyrim etc.
Well, anyways, that was fun. Good day all :)
Marketingβ¦ brilliantβ¦ thank you! Whatβs in your wallet?
Marketing: It's like a job, but with a 2-drink minimum...
I've been at this since it dropped.. whos gonna pay me for my time lmao. This takes forever if you're actually giving it thought

They did not ask us to think about it... π
On that piloting question... Does it count, that I was allowed to control a two-seated-glider for a few minutes on a promotional weekend of a glider club years ago? 
Indeed it does π If you take it serious and want to do it good, it will take ages for me.
hey, WHEN I actually take one of these stupid surveys, ima do it right. 
I slept at a holiday inn
Wonder if it helps Keen.
Or they just want to know how big the interest (market, π°) is for enshrouded on mobile π
I hope it does, then my time wasnt entirely wasted 
Gonna grab a drink and have a break now tho lmao
24%
π 
Oh it definitely helps us, but yeah we also expect that a lot of people won't want to do such a long survey, which is understandable. We appreciate if you do, though, lol
Enshrouded is a great game wish Keen all the success it deserves. Thanks for making such a fun game.. sincerely thank you!
finished the survey, at some point towards the end it felt like I was about to receive a diagnosis for something 
Aw, thank you! We wouldn't be able to keep making it without so many players supporting the game
Ngl I tapped out at the zip code question. If it asked my country of residence, sure. Zip is too much
I think this feedback about the feedback survey is pointless.
But if you ask "how many hours did you play x game" ... an option that says "I don't remember" would be helpful.
I am old, so I played a lot of games.
Do AFK hours apply?
ONE BILLION HOURS.
I aint popping up my statistic of shame (aka Steam Playtime) for a survey

I have no shame.
The first one was easy for me, how many hours did I play "WoW" π€£
They should just asked for our steam profiles tbh π And then some script/code to read in all the hours of the games.
Most times I just leave the game up all day and maybe only spend an hour or two actually playing it
The real world been broken and terrible for most of my life, and my efforts to fight that did absolutely nothing.
Dang you weren't kidding, the survey was a long one
Some of the games I play it dont use steam for
True! Like BDO.
Yeah and genshin impact although I stopped playing it years ago but I still sunk a bunch of hours in when I did
Well you got a lifetime player here for sure π
I can definitely see myself playing for a long time on just one character cause I sunk 400 hours into balders gate 3 and never finished the game
biggest missed chance after the 2 day delay "Do you own a Yacht?" - "I wish π"
I actually βlolβdβ at that one when Infact I donβt actually laugh out loud when I type that
Has anyone answered yes to that question to see what happens?
Iβm on a boat!!π₯οΈ
#enshrouded-chat message WHAT? 
?
Competitive can be speedrunning the witcher 3.
I play TW3 Competivly
π π π
Although not sure how big the speedrunning community is. Can't wait for people to speedrun enshrouded.
come on, that is a far stretch tbh 
Yeah ... probably. But it's the only thing I could think of that can be competitive for Witcher 3 π€£
you gave them way too much credit I was just like... they have no idea what they are talking about 
Is the survey linkie not working on mobile? It's been spinning the colorful dots for a solid 5min
I tried on mobile also it spinner for a minute then connected but halfway through lost connection?
It took a couple minutes to load even on my desktop, so I'm not sure
Ah oke ty for info. I'll wait till I'm on pc
Most likely you are excluded from the survey result
Steam says 1,510.7 hrs for me but I AFK a LOT so
I only AFK when I get shroud cursed π
same lol
I feel bad for Valheim now...
Valheim made its bed
I don't like Valheim π
I have 21 minutes in that game and it asks me the same things I just answered about NMS in which I have over 1000hrs in >.<
Took 30 years, but
They keep moving the goalposts around, stretching development time, and they are cashed in during corona, so no pressure to finish the game it seems.
Sigh. Ordered a chicken bacon ranch wrap. Got tuna and no ranch and just a spot of bacon. Boooo
My life is ruined and I smell like tuna
anyone know what the survey is for?
goshdarnit I am still at it... nearly finished 
Dlss override still busted R.I.P
is there a setting that toggles off server chat? (we rented a server and somehow cant chat ingame)
finally done with the survey... CUB, Toast, this ain't gonna be cheap

only 42% <:
You can now apply for the reward, just enter cubs or toasts bank account number at the very end of the survey

Im kidding, no matter where you got these bank account numbers from, don't enter them 
To figure out what they got right and where they have to improve compared to "competitors" and other games in general I would think.
A "One step back"-Button or something like that would be helpful... Starting the survey the third time because I thought I missed something or miss-clicked somehow. π
yea good way to put it but why they gotta know my income before taxes π₯²
yea i clicked on a few wrong ones
Demographic Statistics on ppl buying games. I get it. I dont like it but I get it.
atleast you can decline answering which is nice
Feels like theyre just mocking you for how poor you are, right? 
oh man, the survey is painful.
not because its long but because its weirdly worded
yea why they gotta do that XD
with games selection i ended up with 5 games i barely played (3h total) because the survey decided thats important
goodness gracious those rounded 'doors' are impossible to get the pick up prompt
groooowwwwllll
π¦ π Capitalismπ π¦

not that I have any other suggestion for a better system 
Rebuild the house to fit the door... π
"how do you feel about enshrouded combat?" .... as in do i enjoy to go out murdering things in the game, or as in do i enjoy the current combat mechanic? Two very different things lol
this is a possibility
Various systems have been tried, but all involve 'herding humans' and we suck at that, so...
oh how i do love jumping in with my giant sword, wish they did have more varieties tho
I wish we could Y away props we place like blocks
Where do I ask questions about specific blocks and re-building/repairing a castle? (Shorewatch)
https://discord.com/channels/1046840540550942720/1235270718577578085 is your best bet on that π
regarding the poll. question "you watch TV at least 10 h a week"
what does that include? streaming? using the device? or only linear public television?
and does netflix fireplace count?
I haven't watched public television for the last 10 years... don't have a TV at all by now. My PC is my only "bigger" device, which I use for nearly everything. Watching streams, communicating, gaming...
i assumed its pure tv so said i dont watch TV, havent for decades, but wording is odd like that the entire survey. I think it means "any entertainment" but not sure
yeah, that is my issue, I do not have linear TV connected, but I have a big TV and I use it a lot for many things
same here
also I kinda assumed more game relevant questions so far π but I did not finish yet
do you own a yacht tho? xD
if lego counts π if not no
I still curious about that (trick) question. Do people who own a yacht never game or something?
lord gaben?
lol i think its just to gauge if you're answering as troll or truthful as there's a few odd questions in a row
ok, this "have you heard about this game" is annoying to click basically all of them
97% done with the survey oh my gosh XD
honestly i didnt mind the length of it. But the clunky of the platform and weird wording was just ooofff
I think I need to schedule an appointment with my therapist after that...
But what if you really own a yacht and love the game? π€£
They might add 500$ DLC if they know people who own a yacht play the game.
what if you own a yacht, love Enshrouded AND can pilot a plane?
that felt like such an odd question lmao
I guess, I will never finish the survey... they're asking about my favorite video/TV/movie genres. I choose 8 first, got an error because they say "max. 5!" and reduced it to 6 now... but I refuse to decline one more, because this 6 are equal on my opinion.
What a pity. π
And need some liquid expert ... which can be a yacht owner?
Keen announce custom Elite cosmetics. $500 for a feathered cap. $2500 for a P-coat (not a peacoat)...
I hope it's dragons we can fly instead of planes though
that would amazing!!
love your coffee mug icon btw! Great choice!
He cheated. Zero gold coins changed hands for that coffee...
Thank you. I don't know how long I've been a coffee cup now. Think for many years.
π ok, just so I understand correctly. they ask if I played enshrouded, I select 40+ h and then they ask if I plan to play it again ... I need a sarcasm column
hello
ooohhh you must be a veteran then. I got close to 1k hours just before 1.0 release; then just needed something different lol
It's on the list after some 1k of Enshrouded hahaha
it is fun, but for me the balancing felt better before. in the start the game felt very easy and the enemies got a bit too hard for my taste at the end
I don't know why, but enshrouded sometimes gives me that same chill vibe that satisfactory does.
Mostly when I am in my base. And look at what I "achieved". The npc's walking around. All the crafting tools working etc.
Yea it does hit that spot
And then I go into the shroud π
god I love satisfactory
Tho I barely scratched the surface with building in enshrouded
I keep getting distracted with side things XD
enshrouded building is mega fun, but I think the water doors unlock too late
I'm about l 30 here. Dont have much unlocked for water stuff
I don't think so anyway. I'm terrible with keeping on top of crafting options
I have a few things unlocked related to water. But I don't know why I should use them.
yeah, the moment they feel usefull you basically finished the game
They should've added satisfactory to the list in the survey lol! Way closer related than 3 cod and 2 zelda
yes, also do not know why it is asking about the witcher 3 multiplayer experience
Yea lol I got bamboozled at that one hahahaha
Just because I prefer co-op games doesn't mean I exclusively play coop/multi
Very odd
I answered neutral. felt wrong to blame it for not having that but also to praise something it does not provide
I had satisfactory. But I selected like 20 games.
Im still thinking about the "How do you play The Witcher 3" -> Competivly in Multiplayer Coop like what do you meeean?

I think the games were based on the previous answer "what genre do you like ..." or something like that.
I didn't. But had about half the list with shooters for some reason
No I defo don't play shooters XD
Idk. Was very confusing and half my answers were probably wrong cause I didn't understand the question
probably, but in a ... normal survey you would filter out those nonsense combinations
I doubt there is a "wrong" on your oppinion
If you saw my steam page, you would think I play almost every genre.
And I assume this goes for a lot of gamers.
There is if I don't understand the question. Or maybe own a yacht? It's classified!
if they proof you wrong on that one, are they allowed to take a trip?
Only if I get a glider irl
well the T1 glider is basically a bad parachute, that could be organized^^
Actually no scratch that. Was super foggy here last weekend and I had a scare when I woke up and looked out the window to see SHROUD
Yeah, I will trade a "glider" for a yacht π
I think I need to ease off the enshrouded marathons lol
What to do when panicking in shroud:
- find cliff upwards.
- throw bombs and bunny hop your way out of there!
I am prepared for when the shroud comes π€£
Well I don't normally carry bombs in my pocket... And there's no cliffs where I live. I'm defo not ready for irl shroud
Hahahaha I think that's called a nap? XD
I'm still mad they didn't aks how many Yachts, only if I had one.
How else am I gonna flex?
didnt even ask what kind of plane I fly
you can tell us here and gift one to letterdief
How many yachts do you own? And what colour is each?
ikr? Who flys planes on their own. I got pilots for that...
π one of each 
We are joking about it.
But maybe it are questions to check how rich the playerbase is π€£
If they ask "How much money you got" most would tap out.
But this is one sneaky way maybe π
since there is an infinite number of colors, would you be willing to share since you still would have infinitly left after giving some away?
I got enough money to afford a pink bubble gum yacht. Just that... I don't have the yacht part yet. But I have pink bubble gum!!
50% on your way to a pink bubble gum yacht.
π
since when is anime a music genre? as far as I know that is a form a TV series
so what I'm thinking... if someone answers yes to the yacht question, it would automatically make the answers from that person an outlier... either you're lying and all your answers may be taken with a fist full of salt or youre actually super rich and we should take your answers more seriously.... hmmmmmmm
not the latter 
Or youre gonna be investgated as a potential investor 
i found rings when fishing before
is it possible to get Ring of Thundersnow doing that?
if i straight up listened to my friends back in 2012 to buy a lot of bitcoin just for funsies, youd bet Id be playing Enshrouded in my yacht right now
I took it to mean like soundtracks from anime shows.
That survey is one of the creepiest things I've seen. Really surprised that they thinks its acceptable to ask us for help then present us with something so unsettling
That's an extreme take, but you do you! π
why didn't you ?
hindsight is a b*tch
But then your soul would be corrupted by bitcoin.... The elixir of the real world.
I do not in any way regret being against that nonsense from the start
shut up you poor non-bitcoin-owning peasant 
I will remain the troublesome priest, TYVM π
I am kidding at the highest grade don't ban me lmao
Same.
I know many people claim they had some, but I had 57 ... back when they were like 5-10 cent each ... drive with the key died and I did not bother to back it up due to its value ... do you backups kids
Know what, I am gonna go to bed lmao. See ya around you peasants 
the bed on your yacht?
exactly 
I had a friend in college who stored all their crypto on a paper wallet, like they physically wrote the address down on a piece of paper so that it wasn't stored digitally anywhere, and then one day it blew out the window
π finders keepers
I do not believe that story.
π€₯
Doesn't that... almost defeat the purpose? π
ok, that is really weird: what is 'Patriotic' music genre? which country should it be patriotic about?
they were just ultra paranoid about the security and they had it as an investment, so they stored it on a piece of paper so they had no risk of it being stolen from their pc. It was incredibly stupid for reasons that were probably self-evident
I have seen people write their password on the bottom of their keyboard and rotating it dozenz of times to login ... do not underestimate people
Probably means listening to one's own countries national anthem or something... but i have no idea in general π
I know... but I thought Toast had "better" peers

oh no this person was very stupid
We all have at least one of those friends.
like, on and on and on, and once more? I'm terrified.
Besides, one composition is not a genre π
do you not listen to the star spangled banner and god bless america a few times on repeat with your morning coffee?
I will not say what i want to say because i'll get shouted at π But yes, be concerned! π
sadly being smart is not contagious
just completed the survey. man, feels like i took an exam

congrats, you passed
yeah, what about my pay huh? 
When do we get an ingame skin for completing the survey?
... Workin' on 3rd 45... π
Give us a Riddlers outfit.
i'd take invites to the keen hq. i live right around the corner ;P
should I be an American for that? π
apparently the guy I really wanna hang out and talk with lives in the NL 
skin? for that survey we should get that yacht
(I like engine stuff, I have no effing clue about how it works but i WANNA know
)
Perhaps, but i still want them to be able to afford to make the game π
The omnipotent one?
na, i took the survey to make enshrouded even better, so that's enough incentive for me tbh
would be cool to get a music soundtrack on vinyl for enshrouded
id buy it in a heartbeat
I dunno what you are referring to exactly here 

You have, just like Van...
"Your efforts are greatly apprecited" nice, you can pay me in yachts
but if we gave you a yacht then you'd have to go back and change your answer on the survey
eeh? psychology test in the survey? (kinda) seriously? π²
that is a risk I am willing to take
and no option to skip. no, just no
wait until you get to the credit card questions
Why are people bothered so much? There's nothing to identify an individual and when you are making/selling things to others, half of it is psychology so it makes sense π (Only difference, they're asking instead of guessing :D)
for once, that's too tedious. And much more intrusive
yeah, i'm not bothered by that either
Iβm back!
Also, to point out, your prefered search engine, mass online warehouse and youtube, know more about your personal habits than any survey ever will π
For me it was more too many questions. I lack the attention span. I donβt want a game survey to feel like work lol
should have asked for my archetype lol
see it from the good side, you get absolutly no reward for participating^^
I can understand the volume, it was a large survey.
I gave up after ~20 questions and only being like 13% done. Thatβs a hard pass.
Im just like generally interested in what Q does, like really. Didn't find a path in my career yet as to how to get to something that cool as "Engine Programmer" 
that's a relief! 
I got a good chuckle out of the helicopter question tho.
Am I the only person who loves surverys? π
there's gonna be a billionaire helicopter pilot with a twin sibling in the community who thinks that we're spying on them
happy to help
I enjoy surveys that donβt feel like an SAT exam lol
I love doing research studies and surveys. Gimmie gimmie, make them LONG
It doesn't hold a penny to my Leben in Deutschland survey, size wise but yes, it was a lot longer than i expected π
Maybe I just like telling people my opinions too much
it is your twin, isn't it?
I hope Keen gets a good number of responses and finds the information valuable to the continued improvement and development of the game. I personally will continue to share my opinions through the upvotes page and being annoying in Discord.
nothing better than to do so in survey that potentially benefits one of your favorite games tbh
Which is totally fine! We only really expected a very small portion of users to volunteer to do this survey. Most of the responses will probably be coming from outside of the community, as we plan to do paid campaigns to have a wide range of groups take the survey as well. That's why so many of the questions are really weird, or not super relevant to veteran players.
That makes a lot of sense.
Cause yeah, we already get a lot of feedback from our veteran players by keeping an eye on feature upvote, discord, reddit, etc.
After two years of being here and just being me yall know more or less what i think lol
The biggest problem with surveys (This one as well) They ask questions that are a LOT more nuisance with what the answers could/should be without giving anywhere near enough selection.
(Give me cheese wheels, pizza, wine, bears, brooms and the desert well)
Skyrim cheese wheels pls
I want roads to be visible on the map π€£
Hey, i asked for my dragon hatchling in the survey! 
@pliant quarry just out of curiosity: the survey asked for the multiplayer witcher 3 impressions, which the game does not have. so are those answers just discarded or do only neutrals count or what is the desired goal on stuff like that?
I upvoted dragons!
AW SHUCKS, I forgot to mention I wanted more critters to have 
i answered all these questions with neutral
made the most sense to me
me too, but that does not feel fair to a great game to judge something it does not want to be
Because the survey will be going out to people who don't know/care about the game, like I mentioned in my last comment in here, there are quite a few questions scattered throughout the survey that exist to essentially make sure the survey taker is paying attention. Like all the weird questions at the start, the question that asks if you "sleep" in a given week, etc.
I forget what question specifically you're referring to, I took the survey myself but I don't remember it asking me that, but it might just depend on what options you selected in the previous section
The neutral response was what I assumed they wanted you to use if it wasnt a game mechanic
Ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh yes yes, weed them out
There was a sleep question? o.O
like competitive witcher 3 π€£
I forget exactly how it was worded, but it has a list of activities you do regularly, and one of them was "sleeping" lol
whaat? you shouldn't say you sleep in a given week?! Am I the only one sleeping here?
question was smth like "what do you do during a week". one of the answers was sleep.
lol I paused when i saw the word sleep on the list of weekly activities
Well, i must have not been paying attention! π
the fact that this survey made me admit that i have more than 40 hours on cod warzone is so rude, leave an old man alone with his ptsd /s
Yes in the first section with the flying helicopters and twins
I actually don't remember a weekly activity question π
yeah, it felt like just asking the same questions for all previously selected games, but some (like multiplayer) just do not apply, so whatever we answer feels unfair to the game in question.
40 hours on any game is childs play π
Regardless of how bad the game is
cries at my starfield hours
yeah but some you'd rather forget
In the case that they don't apply we'll probably just discard those, yeah. These questions are only for our use at Keen games, so don't worry too much about being unfair on your feedback for Witcher 3 lol
and then there is that insomnia guy doing all the surveys and getting disgarded for not sleeping^^
but 40 hours is nothing, including to be shy about. 4000 hours would be something else I suppose...
you know this is going out to non-gamers when the upper threshold is a measly 40 hours
It asked me how many hours I played WoW, and the 40 hours made me giggle.
i kinda felt offended by that "more than 40 hours" when in reality it's more like 8000h in destiny 2 for me π
