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alright folks I need help
which of the shroud wells in albaneve summits is the one with 3 cyclopses? the one nect to forge of obsidia?
hii bois n girls!
Any1 of u got a spare bow isch lvl 30 taking up slots for ya? or maybe some lvl 23+ ranger armor/helmet? ๐
All i find are 2h hammersand staffs xDD
Thought i'd give this begging a try.. perhaps it works, perhaps not xD
//lvl 26 ranger (swedish)
Yes
im sure various resource worlds are chock full of gear so check base-design-showcase for those
excellent, thank you
I see boar juice was discussed in my absence. Good, good.
I hope so. Love valheim but I hate that they add things that are only for late game.
oh I just have the perfect idea
when you try to pet a hungry animal with no food (cat or dog), instead of a buff you get a curse!
Or all the farm animals attack you
eats your hand
Imagine walking out to your barn yard and they are all just standing there. Staring at you. Like children of the corn. Then all at once they pile on you and attack
I don't see why they could not build in a feature to change what material/block something is made of. Like changing wood to stone, etc. Seems to me that's exactly what the game does when loading up. It looks at the voxel changes to the environment and applies a block material to them.
They added a bunch of things in early and mid game in the latest patch.
why does the boreal wood bench need warm padding ๐ญ its just solid wood ๐ ๐ญ
Do we get a teaser short today? 
Thursday
Less than a week Iโm so EXCITED
They donโt? Their last couple updates added new dungeon/trader quests and unlocks/new equipment for early game. Enemies for early game.
heck yeah
๐ ๐ง
Been excited for this game to come to PlayStation since hearing about it back in 2023. Update 7 looks awesome, fingers crossed for a console release next year
spring 2026. maybe summer.
we can only hope we've been supplied with the juice by then
hopefully.
maybe when they do another update without a new biome they can slip it in.
a nice juicing press you can put meat in.
๐
Alright time to go prep for my interview
Stay fiery flameborn.
I know that boar juice probably isnt safe for human consumption, but i would totally guzzle that stuff down.
Is that because youโre not human?
some guy, that totally wasn't me suggested to add it as an ingame item
And some girl, totally me, said it was a bad idea and he should be tickled with feathers.
Some?? I can be louder if needed ๐

I won't though. I don't wanna be in the dog house
thats going a little far.....
oh im definitely human. sadly.
No mercy for juice lovers
its not nice to say people should be hung. pretty sure thats breaking a server rule.
True I got upset wh n someone said they were going to shoot a dev to keep the release from happening til he got play.
So fair is fair. Sorry, not tuna
Yes, it is.
yaaaaa thats not okay either. hopefully the mods delt with it.
neither is okay.
i rarely think myself.
Alternatively, I think too much
Im in the other enshrouded discord if anyone wants to chit chat
I put on the scholar outfit. I think it was in one of the night sanctums. It's got a shimmery effect that's cool!
Whos ready for Nov 10th? Are we all doing a fresh restart or is it just me?
personally. after grinding all pieces of lore, all weapons and all armor bits since 0.7 over a year ago: no chance in hell I would do a fresh restart lol
Many are restarting
I can see the allure of restarting, but I bet less restart than continue
Fresh restart for me
Only bc i hear theres water in earlier areas than the new biome
Otherwise id use my endgame character
yes, it was confirmed, there will be water in earlier areas
and many of those who do restart run back to their old worlds to either continue there or stock up on convinience after an hour :3
I am commited to my character for good or bad, so I don't want to restart
looking for a group to join with my friend
but everyone is driven by their own likes and dislikes
I dont wanna use old world items bc new ones found can be recrafted at a higher level
which is greatttttt
also has a separate Discord
Weapons from before the update will be the same
#rules message -seperate lfg discord here
sigh., my husband just powered up my new new PC
and it has more lights than the last one did!!!!
arggghhhhh lol
Mystfit lookin at the new rig: IM BLIND! 
like I swear to you
Don't worry. They just makes it go faster. 
Slayed my job interview yall.
I think ill have a contract by end of week.
this aint warhammer orks xD
but but my parrot
she'll lose her birdie mind
What was your kill streak?
I jsut had to get her outta the air fryer...
Knocked em both out. 
Nice and crispy then?
chicken masala a bit different eh
I will keep my fingers crossed for you!
Thank you!!!
pretty much. nutter bird.
I have to chuckleโฆ. It took moving to Malaga Spain from Seattle to get a job in Seattle ๐ฅฒ
I had to scoop her out with a spatula cause she didn't wanna leave
ah remote life.
Parrot al'ourange.
better than living in the PNW. too rainy
Aye; i do love that green and those mountains though.
oh i imagine it's a glorious vacation area
Yo guys, the water update comes out on the 10th yeah?
Summers are phenomenal. Fall and winterโฆ meh. Altho winter sports on the mountain is nice too.
I would looooooveee to take a train from Canada down through to California
if Canada would let me in ;)))
only fun train rides in the US are colorado and alaska... speaking from experience haha
Theres an awesome train from denver that drops you off at the ski lift of Winter Park. Its amazing.
Bird flu been all over southern spain lately.
posted a pic in pets of the bird in an air fryer though I assume food pics would have worked as well
totally I'd like to do colorado as well!!!
train from Fairbanks > Anchorage
train from Moab, UT > Durango, CO > Denver
The price of chickens in my city is so low currently.
Sus. ๐
The park near me closed back in september for a weekish due to a mass bird dieoff
And theres been an area down the street where they have been croaking en masse too
omg!!!! I cast* "FIREBALL"
Just visited Portland in late August, no rain... lucked out. Friends in Beaverton and up in Wenatchee all crying about the wetness right now
Idk the rain fits the portland vibe lol
they can keep it lol.
I am in PT right now for bad knees so I can build up strength to go to Alaska (I think) where were can see the northern lights. I need to be able to walk on trips! lol
also, if you miss the rains, go up to Santander in Spain... rains a lot up there. Lived in Leon for a while.
TSA would like a cavity check...
Once in a blue moon you can catch them in the PNW! We had s phenomenal light show maybe last year???
/swoon
yeah, but seeing the lights near the artic circle is WAY different: Norway, Sweden, Finland, Northern Territories, Fairbanks Alaska... way different experience
I am not saying I"m obsessed but....
I ain't getting any younger I need to seeee themmmmmmm
I named my daugher: Aurora... wanna take a guess why?
Sleeping Beauty? ( /ducks)
dfgndfglakdhng/lkgnaslgknarg
it fits both ways for her 19yo personality though
heh
sleeps a lot and has what you'd expect personality wise from an aurora
we also like to gross her out and say she was conceived under the aurora soo
well that's one way to take away the romance for a teenager lol
Well I'm a vegas baby, personally.
My father likes to tell me he gambled and lost.
I like to tell him that the joke will be even funnier when I'm choosing his nursing home.
snorkle
not sure what he would expect otherwise lol.
neither of my children has an origin story. they'll have to fake something if they become a villain.
if anyone is interested in a foldable phone. I"d like to report that after a month, mine is already having issues at the fold. I bought an old one though. mebbe it's better now.
Ooo yeah i caught them by accident once lol I was camping at Hurricane Ridge to do Milkyway and Andromeda photography and I saw them over Victoria B.C.
I'm not dripping with envy or anything.
I saw them for the first time last year, and was in the PNW. Almost made me cry. ๐ฅน
They confused me at first bc they didnt look that colorful irl. I was kinda trippin wondering what they were, but they looked extremely colorful on camera
The pics i took
what was it...one series of them that made it down here but could only be seen with a camera
I was like....meh
Had the lights to the north and milkyway to the south
perfection! good pics!
Ty ๐
Yup, hubby used his camera's preview feature to watch it!
and that's why I recommend people see the lights near the artic circle. It doesn't look like this faint smudge with the naked eye. It's in your face in places like Norway, Sweden, Finland, Canada's Northern Territories and Fairbanks Alaska
Sorry, light rail doesn't go that far. ๐
Aurora Season: August 21-April 21
you know what I meant, but fine. It's much more bright and clearer to see the colors up north
Having seen them myself in Holmsund Sweden and Fairbanks Alaska, it's hard to ever consider seeing them any other way again
I mean I'm not really kidding. I can't afford a car or a plane ticket. I'm glad you got to see that, though. ๐
There .. are ... four ... lights!
Just realized the day the update drops is the 250th anniversary of the USMC ๐ ahhhh I'm gonna have to take that whole day off now haha
are there instruction somewhere on how to backup save games?
Enshrouded Save Information
Details on where to find your save files, how save slots work, and how to manage them.
Save File Locations
Cloud Save (Default):
Open the folder where Steam is installed (usually C:\Program Files (x86)\Steam). You can find the path from your Steam client menu under Steam > Settings > Storage.
๐ Then navigate to userdata\\YOUR_STEAM_ID\\1203620.
Local Save (Cloud Save Disabled):
๐ %userprofile%\\Saved Games\\Enshrouded,
Save Slots & Backups
There are 10 Save Slots available for your game worlds.
Save Slots:
Slot 1: 3ad85aea
Slot 2: 3bd85c7d
Slot 3: 38d857c4
Slot 4: 39d85957
Slot 5: 36d8549e
Slot 6: 37d85631
Slot 7: 34d85178
Slot 8: 35d8530b
Slot 9: 32d84e52
Slot 10: 33d84fe5
Backups:
- Each slot has 10 rotating copies numbered
0-9.
The file at index0has no suffix, but is still part of the rotation. - The game references the file listed in the
-indexfile. - Every 10 minutes, a new copy is created, pushing the oldest out of rotation.
- There is no distinct "primary" saveโwhichever file the
-indexfile points to is loaded.
Managing Saves
Transferring Saves:
- This must be done whilst the game is closed.
- To share a save, copy the latest world save I.E (3ad85aea-7).
- Dedicated servers only use Slot 1. Rename a save file to match Slot 1 if needed.
- Files can be renamed to move them between slots.
Rolling Back to an Older Save:
- Open the -index file in a text editor.
- Find the line "latest": X (where X is a number from 0-9).
- Change it to the desired backup index and save the file.
Additional Notes
- The -info file contains metadata (like world name) but is not needed for servers.
- Each player generates their own -info files when creating a world.
- The latest world save files are what should be transferred.
Ensure you copy all required files when sharing a save. For servers, only Slot 1 is used.
Simply copy the files in which ever save location you use above (Cloudsaves on/off) Into a folder in your choice of location.
My local, I don't use clouds, are saved in the users directory.
In a folder marked enshrouded. I just copy the whole folder and if I mess up rename the backup to ' enshrouded ' and go. On my merry way.
I have also edited the info files (which have a last played line) to reflect whatever time frame I wanna roll back to.
There are three info files per save slot though I don't know if all three are needed.
Easy peasey lolol
I just copy and save the whole enshrouded folder to another drive and add the date
That is for sure the easiest. I mostly use the three info files when I forget to back up and made a big ooops.
Iโve been gone for a while and coming back in. I was curious if the devs have spoken on advancing the pet system. I see in the mountains enemies walking around with sabers and others still have wolves. Wondered if combat pets were coming for players at some point.
They havnt mentioned it as of yet
There is probably a good thread for it on the upvote site though.
One of the challenges might be making it so the pets can traverse with you
As much as I want to strap a glider onto a tiger... I'm not sure that'd pan out well for the local ecosystem
Make them all flying pets. wisps, hawks, baby dragons etc
Even make the pixie speak" HEY HEY flameborn hey!"
Like Navi? ๐คฃ๐คฃ
Exactly
A baby dragon would be cool. Lol
Do we put questions / ideas here?
Just have them go into a pet pocket.
What is Feature Upvote?
- It is a site where players can make suggestions for the game and upvote other suggestions for a chance to get them implemented.
- Please search for your suggestion before submitting to avoid duplicates.
Suggestions may be open/closed at any time to review backlogs.
- Upvote suggestions you like to increase their chances of being implemented.
Enshrouded Feature Upvote: Click Here
Please keep suggestions to one per ticket, we will delete any tickets containing general feedback, multiple suggestions or duplicates (as that defeats the purpose of the site.)
It is a magic world afterall.
It is!
That is it thanks and the idea is already at 13k up votes that's nices ๐ i do hope it gets brought up i know a bunch of mates that think that's what this game could really add for more grinding an longer enjoyment
I mean I was thinking more of a summoning/stable system like world of Warcraft and whistle commands similar to Ark Survival. I felt like a marriage between those systems would work well in Enshrouded with the magic being integrated with the survival elements.
Wow pets system would be awesome an having them summons would be cool but also rare flying ones be like super hard to find an require alot of grinding to unlock
Yeah I mean why not give some challenge to pets that are actually worth it. An example for me is the first fell dragon you encounter in the castle. Make an egg a rare drop. Because with that you could even add the separation between regular pets and pets that can survive in the shroud.
Yep an make it that the main story you follow give you them aswell in random sections but it also has hidden ones that are also super rare to find.
You Should just make a suggestion idea man I'll upvote it ๐ sounds cool to have pets ๐
No thanks. I'd never play again.
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
Yes but just for you๐คฃ
I've been waiting to start playing Enshrouded again after about an 8 month break. Should I wait for the update if rolling a new character? Can't recall exactly what they're adding besides new biome (late game) and water (all areas?) and updated weapons. Thoughts?
might as well wait
it drops next week
there will be small changes to the world and a new late game biome.
Late game biome wouldn't affect me as a new level 1, water getting added probably not that much either I'm guessing
unless they're massively teraforming
ya, i only say wait because the world might shift around wherever you set up base.
that's true, wasn't quite sure
Hola, soy nuevo por aqui alguien para darle duro al enshrouded ??
i to am returing but im waiting till the next update next week that way i can enjoy the full exp of that update
The new CPU the Mobo the GPU the Ram and the new Monitor for my PC build is confirmed
Youโll want to wait imo
The weapons you get pre-update wont be scalable like the post-update weapons
Which isnt a big deal ig bc you can go and get them again (i think) to get the scalable weapons
Scalable as-in, youโll be able to craft higher level versions later
so even if we have dragon whatever lore item, we will need to go get them again is the way I understood it. I was looking for just a list of those said weapons, but didn't really trust what the wiki said. Guess we will see after the release which ones were picked as true post-update lore weapons that we can scale.
HEY! LISTEN!
Don't you put that evil on us!
Just left steams acheivment page and found 8 new acheivments that my OCD will not let me compleat In the veilwater basin "mean bisquits". on another note does anybody know if there will be Twitch drops this time around and if so when? with regards fellow flameborn 07
Oh one other question has anybody found the larger gem of necromance yet?
think only the lesser gem will spawn, never seen anything else
yup: unobtainable until patch https://enshrouded.wiki.gg/wiki/Gem_of_Necromancy
assume the new albaneve summits hollows will have it
Ah ok thats how I have it. I was wondering why people said it wasnt in the game anymore
Mornin โ
Thank you for Clarifying ive been in the Kindlewaste hollows all night looking.@cedar depot
Does anybody know if there will be twitch drops this time?
no one knows yet.
I dont recall them announcing one
Shame would have been an excuse to watch a few vids lol
also doesnt realy matter. all twitch drops apart from the very first one can be obtained via quest ingame anyway now
Good morning sir Cross
Mornin Miss JacJac. home yet?
Yep. Making dinner. Country fried chicken, mashed potatoes and collard greens
That sounds lovely
Yesss it is. Gonna make some white gravy for it and everything
Itโs cool here so I plan to make some coffee too
Now that is a down home southern dinner
I know what I am making for dinner tomorrow
finaly got some.season weather up there?
Yeah for a minute or two lmao
the cheap variant. there... have some wind... lol
It was lovely here today 70 and below all day long
Itโs going to get into the low 50s here tonight and I am looking forward to it
Gonna prop up outside with a blanket and my book
its surprisingly mild over here these past two days.
not that im complaining. the wet freezing cold can stay elsewhere ๐
Ugh I love any chance I can wear winter/fall clothes
i dont have a problem with cold temperature.
but with cold freezing wet weather. it creeps under the best winter stuff ๐ตโ๐ซ
Thatโs bikini weather! What are you on about! Lol
i cant say here what im thinking now ๐คฃ
You donโt wanna get into trouble now do you
I got in enough trouble for all of us today.
saw it.
keep that head high mate
i mean i constantly am. but wouldnt want a poor mod to have to get into gear to early :3
Yeah they get cranky this time of the night
Really and theres me stuck with Yellow glow soup and coffee. 
keep the soup. share the coffee :3
You are more than welcome to the soup rofl
thanks. ill pass. rather clinge to my coffeecup 
I actually made a blue mushroom soup for halloween๐คฃ
that sounds as disgusting as it sounds intriguing ๐
Its just a traditional creammy mushroom soup(from scratch) And I tinted the bechamel blue before I mixed it in
lovely... well... kinda.but the idea is fun
I promise it tasted amazing
extra points for spirit and Intelligence wher as the coffee is endurance sugar rush and crash
Talking of which i need another cup.
What's sip, ev'ryboday? โ
Mornin Red
Good morning from a bright sunshiny SA!
Mornin Pixie
Not up yet but have coffee!
Morning.....you all good?
I'm great. Finished up my nap, streamed some Evangelion for my homies, prepared my java, ready for a night of questing and building for little Kelinyx and chatting with y'all!
@lament monolith why did you get yourself in trouble for ๐๐
I am gonna do a "duck and dive" day today as I "may" have made the caretaker angry at work ....oops!
I got a bit uppity with a couple state troopers. Lost my temper since they were being agressive.
Well.......no need for them to be aggressive....
Thanks to Christoph sip has become Zip, nice zip off coffee Ahhh
What did I miss....what did Christoph do ....except being very cute ๐
Wathch the dev update out takes, really funny.
Pull up a chair, have a drink, click on Steam and ooops sorry my bad.
At 2581 hrs dont take my advice you will never get to work.
Lol that is funny!
sniff sniff
What is wrong?๐ซฃ
nothing. just impersonating christoph :3
Naughty!
Thanks now my mouse has coffee on it.
It is actually cool of Christoph to allow the team to publish those. Devs by nature don't like the type of attention. By the way .....do we still use the word "cool"?
Hallo everyone~
Hallo!
Only in albanieve
Lol.... true
Just hope we get water wings my swiming resembles a cat in a bath.
I normally play on familly server and my daughters want to make a water slide through the farm near the first spire. all sounds a bit messy to me.
Opps nearly 5am and better get to bed, Thank you all for the chat. Nos da "goodnight" all.
Sleep well!
thank you.
Ignore me
Enshrouded Save Information
Details on where to find your save files, how save slots work, and how to manage them.
Save File Locations
Cloud Save (Default):
Open the folder where Steam is installed (usually C:\Program Files (x86)\Steam). You can find the path from your Steam client menu under Steam > Settings > Storage.
๐ Then navigate to userdata\\YOUR_STEAM_ID\\1203620.
Local Save (Cloud Save Disabled):
๐ %userprofile%\\Saved Games\\Enshrouded,
Save Slots & Backups
There are 10 Save Slots available for your game worlds.
Save Slots:
Slot 1: 3ad85aea
Slot 2: 3bd85c7d
Slot 3: 38d857c4
Slot 4: 39d85957
Slot 5: 36d8549e
Slot 6: 37d85631
Slot 7: 34d85178
Slot 8: 35d8530b
Slot 9: 32d84e52
Slot 10: 33d84fe5
Backups:
- Each slot has 10 rotating copies numbered
0-9.
The file at index0has no suffix, but is still part of the rotation. - The game references the file listed in the
-indexfile. - Every 10 minutes, a new copy is created, pushing the oldest out of rotation.
- There is no distinct "primary" saveโwhichever file the
-indexfile points to is loaded.
Managing Saves
Transferring Saves:
- This must be done whilst the game is closed.
- To share a save, copy the latest world save I.E (3ad85aea-7).
- Dedicated servers only use Slot 1. Rename a save file to match Slot 1 if needed.
- Files can be renamed to move them between slots.
Rolling Back to an Older Save:
- Open the -index file in a text editor.
- Find the line "latest": X (where X is a number from 0-9).
- Change it to the desired backup index and save the file.
Additional Notes
- The -info file contains metadata (like world name) but is not needed for servers.
- Each player generates their own -info files when creating a world.
- The latest world save files are what should be transferred.
Ensure you copy all required files when sharing a save. For servers, only Slot 1 is used.
Good morning everyone
Morning
Morning Q
Hallow
Hey Jac how ya do
I good how are you
Cant seem to stay asleep
I started fixing my bank and the items. Preparing for the update.
Thankfully Iโve got a bunch of spare storage space so I donโt have to prepare much ๐ just gonna swoop in and splash about
Most of the stuff is going to be replaced pretty quickly. But I am stocking up some on ammo, potions some food
Hello there. ๐
I wanna build my public bath for my village already table flip
Jsapanese? Roman? Some other style?
I'm thinking Roman,the idea of aqueducts excites my brain c:
I also wanna build my sexy vampire pool
I only got bows and arrows. I love to play with them. I hope for an eternal arrow also...but we will see
There is already "eternal arrow" in the game
One that uses mana
And very easy to get
I know. But I hope for other variants
Like Eternal Flame or Eternal Lightning
As the staff spells
ah, ok. Yeah, would be cool
hi everybody, Ive been following the game since March 2024, and I feel I should start playing it with the next coming update. I am a solo player and would like to join discord channels or groups to play together if you know any. Thanks guys!
helloooo
Hello traveler. You will have a lot of content to cover, especially after the update. I hope you will stick to it ๐
Morning, CUB!
Hello
hello
I am sure I will it seems, was waiting to become cooked this game for a while. Thanks for their effort!
Official LFG Discord
I like the fact that you can play the game the way you like and build your own story
Thanks mate!
Mornin Senore Cub, Q and Gang
blorg
there's quite a bit to do before release next week, ugh
I'd say so
I think this is the largest update from all correct?
that's the patch notes draft so far
I am hurt
I will recover from that shocking insight in my cave now.
Anyone else notice the new achievements added?
take this, for hard times... ๐ช ๐ช ๐ช
hi
according to the achievements, 0.1% of the players have reached lvl 45. Sowith over 4 mio sold copies this amounts to at least 4000 people ๐ (guess the achievement triggers with the very first tester, but...)
Don't call us out like that. 
They're ahead of us D:
For coins will be another 10 pages hihi
Pretty sure 0.1 is the smallest amount Steam can show. So if only 1 gets it it will probably trigger it
Not really "ahead" I'd say.
We play just the earlier access so you don't have to bother with the game breaking stuff. 
We are stress testing the game before launch
I think this game is like Bitcoin in terms of content. Goes slowly at the start, improves and gets bigger and after...boom! Skyrockets to the ceiling ๐
At least this is what I experienced so far from update 1 to present
There's a reason our CM has ordered all adhesive plasters from the people that are helpers and mods.
He's typing his fingies bleedy, 15 pages patchnotes as of above. 
15 pages I get it. But what about the font size? One is to have 15 pages with a 10 size font and another is to have 15 pages with 16 size font
Any hedgehogs in there yet?
Just chatGPT ๐คฃ๐ญ
5 days to go
Iโm very very excited
Itโs creeping in closer and closer
๐ฆ๐ฆ๐ฆ๐ฆ๐ฆ
๐ช ๐ช ๐ช ๐ช ๐ช
coins have been removed for making some players unstable
dont be polite and name names
At this point it's bullying. 
Van is the player that is unstable due to coins lol
I think we all know
gonna coin the term "coinstable van"
unstable is a bit harsh...
totaly and over the top addicted to the point of unhealthy obsession... but unstable? :3
Iโll be unstable with everything the update offers ๐คฃ๐คฃ not just the coins
that obsession on the other hand is kind of a mob mentality thing...
welcome to our meeting of the anonymous enshroudoholics
huffin a bit much of that blue vape stuff.... who knew that would have consequenzes ๐ค
Iโm on the fast track of becoming a scavenger tyrant in no time
yea, half of this chat is regularly hydroholic
half of it... yeaaahhhh only half :3
You are tall enough to be a scav matron but you are gonna need to eat a lot more babies to getb all the way there
eh. the whip swingers are less work soooo
Iโll start off as a tyrant and work my way to matron ๐
I see smoke on the horizon.
the other half is irregularly hydroholic
no those are the batsh*t crazy ones
does anyone know what update just dropped today on steam, not seeing notes anywhere
None. It was most likely steam doing background file checking.
We've had trailers before. If we're getting anymore trailers? Then i believe one is coming tomorrow.
Your tomorrow or my tomorrow?
Keen's tomorrow.
thanks, it was only 700mb.. wasnt' sure what it was
Yea it's either shader pre caching or steam doing background things. Any actual update/patch will always come with patch notes.
Which you can check in https://discord.com/channels/1046840540550942720/1203017516239032360
Why not tomorrow?
Hey guys new here, I just started playing and loving it
because they said Thursday, which is tomorrow
How's everyone doin
worktime's almost over
neck hurts bad though
god I wish that was me
nah, man, worms and other yucky things in those leaf piles
the ticks will be worth it
๐
Having dogs smother you? Sounds fun
dw, dude. you will have time to die in peace when the patch notes are done
until the next PR stuff, that is...
oh joy... dumping leaf piles into the shredder and getting bitten. Such fond memories... NOT
mmmm.... cockroaches are crunchy!
so are crickets and mealworms
my bearded dragon loves them all
i am jumping every time one of them crawls out in fo4
and this is coming from a guy who is picking up spiders - with hands - to put them somewhere safe
decomposing anything will attract them for sure
100% this. i am emptying the whole clip on them
I meant the spiders..... is highly arachnophobic.
I sincerely and not joking, let every spider live in my yard. I don't use pesticides and have one of the most diverse sets of fauna and flora in my neighborhood because of it
yeah, i was an insectophobic... until i carried a criket at home
on my shoulder
like a parrot.
and my vegetables are fantastic (neem oil, diomascus earth, vinegar are used)
and then my mom pointed it out
yeah, bugs aren't bad, people just hate creepy crawlies on them
there is a hole in my mem- i think i blacked out
brain rebooted trying to process it all lol
but i kind of remember me and the cricket jumping seperate ways
crickets are considered pets in some parts of asia
screaming bloody murder while running in the house
i think i blacked out after that
or maybe tripped over something and fell down face first
Crickets are fine. Spiders are the devil.
@noble anchor should get a cricket cage and have one as a pet for a week to learn they're not that bad
tarantulas are cute
but when i woke up, i wasn't phobic. i was an entirely different person.
taratulas are rather popular pets here in southern california
until that climbing roach incident
spiders are cool, bro, no hurt spider-bro, eats bugs and stuff
I have intense childhood trauma relating to spiders. I can't even see a picture of an actual spider without freaking out.
I am also allergic to spider bites.
So....
one jumped on my face while i was sleeping.
noooo, do not the spider
i weathered it but roaches... completely different story.
elmo voice: hahahaha, that tickles!
my hatred of them is can only be matched by @noble anchor 's hatred of boar juice.
you are- y- you are doing it on purpose!
remember this: without bugs we have no pollinators. without pollinators we have no crops. without crops we have no food for ourselves OR meat animals (including fish)
yeah, beez
I'm okay with bugs. But spiders can burn and mosquitoes can be blasted into the sun.
not even beez. Depending on the plant, beetles, spiders and many other insects act as pollinators
My poor delicious legs... 
I have 8 bites on my legs right now... getting older sucks because some of those bites are 3+ weeks old
we had a lot of fleas and mosquitoes this year. Still some hanging around my yard, which makes it difficult to pull my pomegranates
I even sprayed with neem oil, didn't help that much with the mosquitoes
I just hit a plastic box with my leg and lost the top part of my skin. It's been healing for 2 weeks and feels like a huge wound, even though the flesh isn't even hurt.

and last time I was in Austria I got 5 bites half the size of my fist swollen...
Maybe don't go to Austria then 
what, did you get bitten by an angry austrian rejected artschool aspirant?
Uh, it were Mosquitoes but actually could also be that. Might explain my coin-agency
Imagine for now we get what was shown in the trailer. 
Where else would they be?
So just some pixels?
Currently beached in the shroud ๐ข
You're changing titles as ... uh. Did Sailor moon recruit you now? 
I can imagine that but i also imagine.. boats x.x
Well what if boats imagined you!
No, Elden Ring
Idk i couldent even imagine that but now i do.. omg
Sorry to hear that. 
Eh it's not bad
Sure....
ever heard the name Elex?
Might have
bit less murdery than elden ring, a lot more rpgish with consequences
might be something for you
But I like murdering maidenless bosses
why you hate me ๐ญ
Hello
ello
I just hate humans 
damn my bad luck for being a maidenless boss ๐
o7 heyo
rolls into chat
I have been absent for a day or two
I hope everyone's been behaving
Careful, there's a sizable grade to the chat and you can end up rolling right out the other side.
I am technically someone's boss and maidenless, should I be worried?
I will wear my best tweed jacket so I snag on every surface.
Well I am here whats up everyone?
behaving? in this chat? as if.
I purposefully misbehave. Yeah, that's right Santa. I was naughty. And guess what? It was totally worth it, you judgemental mf
The code I just wrote is so unholy that Santa won't be visiting my home this year
does it work tho? ๐
sometimes optimized stuff looks like black magic yeah
ooooh, do share those hot details
I also am curious, but I'm guessing Q can't share
I do
if you want to share
I'm making an emulator for a fake CPU and the code was reading an instruction and then "go to register/ram location/rom location and read x bytes" for instance
but doing those lookups was very slow
so instead I made it "instruction, relative pointer straight to the data" because all these points are right behind each other in the data
Which is very cursed but very very fast
Even when I verify the ranges
now that... is not really good
better pray those data never get reshuffled
Well, I make the compiler and the emulator
Just have to make sure tat I match the compiler and the emulator
There's also range verifications and barriers that would halt emulation if crossed
So you can't read RAM + ROM at the same time
Hola amigos of the flame.
I wouldn't expect anything less from a member of the Q or from some one from Q branch
I still have the wait time in my head
5 days
5 days till water
5 days till update
5 day I must wait through
5 days until hydration has hoaxed us not for half a month
5 days till the tolerance trickles dry
5 days to toil and turn till the time trickles to water
well I'm on my new new pc. is 167 fps ok for quality?
water when?
๐ฌ
Seems fine ^^
better than i got!!!!
That is more than fine lol
Honestly most human eyes canโt notice much difference above 65
I will ahve to compare after water lol
should be good. your monitor will dictate what fps you actually see
yeah I dunno nuttin about that lol
That is not accurate
60 is all people need but people always want over 200 ,_,
Fps is different from refresh rate
Fps is determined more by gpu and refresh rate on the monitor
5 days till tragedy terrorizes or triumph toles true
Its kind of a hand in hand of the two.
You can always set your settings to max ^^
in game? yes, well, it's set to 'quality'
i meant as in your monitor has a rated Hz. thats how many times your monitor can display a new image. if the pc is generating 140fps but the monitor only refreshes 60 times a second youll only see 60fps
With your new setup you should try max and see how it runs!
If you're at 160 at quality, you can set it to max with little issue ๐
I confess I thought quality was max lol
Turn on the steam overlay to see your fps and if it drops much ob max.
but I'll try it
5 turns of teal blue skies and toiling to triumph to toil through fresh waters
Another thing to remember about FPS is that it affects more than what you see. In some games, it even affects how quickly you can act or how often certain things occur.
Just 5 days
Get your pool floaties out!!
I already burned them tho
need some gasolene?
It sounds like I'm just going crazy for 5 days till update
I gotta see update
Gonna see it no matter what
so I turned on the steam overlay. how do check the fps?
I am going to watch it
I don't see any sort of overlay so mebbe I didn't turn it on
Steam > Settings > In-Game and find the "In-game FPS counter" dropdown menu to select a corner of the screen
THAT LITTLE THING?!
I had to stand up and get a magnifying glass out lolol
so max quality is 45 fps
that can't be great...
I can kinda feel it as I move about
and 167 on quality?
yes
but the 167 was not from the overlay so it may be unfair to compare
my husband said that the case gigabyte? has it's own monitoring services and that's what said 167 while playing enshrouded
mebbe it lies ๐
regardless I don't need max quality. I need it to run nice and not melt my pc
true
I forsee some melting happening
hey, im looking for the new big bug queen enemy, any tips on where I can find them?
yes my nerves
I find new PC strssful and I just did this a few weeks agooooooo le sigh
Butter
this bugs bunny cartoon is an ad for joinng the airforce lol
down to salaray rates and retirement benefits
๐ฅฒ sounds about right
I feel like a lot of OG cartoons were full of propaganda and questionable content
Didnt they do things like that a few times with Buggs? and other cartoons too straight propoganda
Much of which would never pass current standards of โacceptableโ
Quite often lol
Its amazing some of the things we missed as kids in cartoons
Youthful ignorance.
5 year old me had no idea what racism was, and there certainly was plenty in some of those older toons.
oh yeah
I donโt even know if they would show some of those on TV anymore given how offensive they are.
Even some of the older disney films.
alot of this is off youtube and they even report it as 'banned' cartoons
but I mean she's a parrot
what does she know
Wait what about your parrot?
Iโm sure that this has been asked a million times, but me and my spouse took a little break from the game. Is the update still coming out this month?
Yup
You can always peep #news
You are number 1,000,001 to ask ๐
(nov 10th though)
I hope they finally fix/have fixed the draw distance of the moss flower blocks that some people use on roofs.
Should be getting a teaser tomorrow.
I hate that I spent the time covering an entire large roof and the draw distance was terrible
I havenโt had issues with draw distance with those blocks unless im quite far. Maybe it is your settings??
I have everything maxed out
Last year when i played with some friends in a dedicated server from Gportal, server used to get a lot of lag when we were 3 or more playing in the same time in the server due some "server overload", anyone knows why this happens?
But this was a few months ago. Maybe itโs been addressed
You might ask in #server-support
No updates in the last three months.
teaser: we pushed it back to nov. 20th
ToT was the last.
thanks!
bite yer tongue
Just means a more polished update
It may or may not, i would guess it is a low priority for them given the other stuff on their to do list and the fact that they have been working quite hard to implement water which in itself is bonkers.
and some heart attacks
Stuff like improved render distance i could see being more of a focus around final launch for 1.0 or even as a post-1.0 patch.
How big is 'yer build?
Could be that the system is reducing graphic fidelity so it can still run properly, the bigger/more to render, the smaller the render distance will be mostly.
But they are constantly refining performance as a whole with each update.
'the workers are making too much money for their own good' we must freeze prices...bahahahaha. I mean this is kinda embarressing really
Also, no one can really make out that level of detail in nature with the naked eye from any distance. Im curious what you are seeing vs what you are expecting.
why in the world do they think kids need to see this. I mean I suppose they're hoping the parents will hear.
that's what the cartoon guy told bugs bunny
we need to freeze prices the workers are making too much money
I'm playing enshrouded but the cartoons are in the background and stuff keps jumping out on me
but it's over now lol
I think music is a bettr choice for the rest of the afteroon
do we need perms to react to posts?
What posts are you talking about?
Can you provide more context?
What will you listen to?
like in social feed, i was about to react with a fire emoji but cant react
oh I am totally illing to admit there ae cartoons on in the house since it's technically not for me
Can only react with reactions selected by the CMs
(Afaik)
i see
but to admit what music I like would open me to up laughter
ty
Yea i think blues and purples have to add the reactions first.
This is a mostly safe space
The price of people misusing them 
Who would EVER do such a thing!? ๐ฉ
I don't know, J! Who would ever?! 
looks like they're acusing you there J the thirsty ๐
Certainly never me.
what did you doooooo
Van at least still has GIF perms ๐
Like it matters i still havent successfully posted a gif in my own server ๐ฅฒ
Last try it posted a still frame. I honestly donโt know why 
I can genuinely say i have not done anything untoward with emojis.
I'm just as pure as a baby kitten
Unless posting a ๐ง or a ๐คก on someone being awful counts.
But surely thats not abusing emojis.
Apparently you can actually โtalkโ in emoji!?!
Every once in awhile my daughter and I do a silly day. Like we can only communicate in emojis for the day
Thatโs cute and fun.
They are much better at it than me but I give it a good go
๐ณ ๐ธ ๐ญ ๐ท ๐ด ๐บ ๐ฉ
๐ฉ
Emoji spam!! Quick mod get him!
Now tell us music
She still hasnโt said what kind of music either
Peer pressure always works right?
Saddness She has us on the ignore list , guess you get the blame for that as well. As I know I am on Santa good list ๐
is there a way to give everyone on my new server their own individual flame alter to level up themselves or is that still server wide?
The maximum number of altars you can place is a server limitation, but up until that limit yeah there's nothing stopping you guys from having separate flame altars
Depends on what you're asking for I guess, if you want an unlimited number of flame altars, no that's not possible at the moment.
right but do you still have to level up to get more than 2 or is there a way for everyone to start with 1-2 themselves and level them individually?
You would still need to strengthen the flame to get enough for everyone
10-4 thank you
Did they change the shroud block all the sudden? it has a gap now inbetween pieces and looks horrible... my whole base is edged with it now it looks so bad lol
Hmm I don't think so, we haven't had a patch in quite a while. Do you mean the shroud wood blocks?
Might be a bug of some kind? Does it persist when you restart the world/game?
I have had a few blocks that do that....not sure if it's a rendering issue or it needed more memory or something
it usually clears up with a reload and I actually haven't had it happen in a awhile
Did it to me on build, thought it was how I placed them and re-placed. Will try to relog next time, interesting.
it's always the edges..roof edge or walkway edge
it was seamless no gaps, I edged my whole base and stairs and now it all looks horrible lol.
Remember 5 days
5 days of toiling and turning till the update
Perm failure
5 days of wait
5 turns of the sky
imagine my saddnes when i forgot it was the 10th and thought it was the FIFTH
my settings must have changed on this new PC cause the NPC's are casting shadows that sneak up and scare me as they wander about
Like I'm in my enshrouded base just scrawling the number 5 on everything
Literally drowning in new content.
wading through all of the patch notes
Awash in all the new features.
flood with excitement
I'm sure you'll be gushing with your thoughts about all the new things.
MAN
hello
?
Platforming? What do you mean? Gotta say thats a first for me lol and i have heard all kinds of complaints over the years. But not sure what that even pertains to honestly.
i posted a message but it was blocked
guess i will just turn around when i find a platform section. Its just too frustrating
platforming?
test
weird.....lag from when I type things to when it show sup
thought I'd been banned or something for misbehaving
I mean there is some platforming in a very loose sense?? but its rather easy.
if platforming means all the jumping and stuff. I'm not sure I always think it's easy lol
Like the trampoline jumping puzzles or the 2 spires that require it
To make sure your messages go through, try not using the blocked 4 letter words. This is a family friendly server so we do have some words blocked
anyway, red mist on the map is always a place where i will die fast right? Im kinda lost rn, altar is requesting some alchemy products i cant make, and i dont have any alchemy quests, except for the cat one, i think. Does that one unlock crafts too? i have the little dragon head from the castle, but i thibk im missing some basic stuff
Red mist is like 3 seconds to death, yes
You should be able to upgrade your altar to avoid the deadly shroud for the next zone, it's one of the main progression blockers
An easy material to miss accidentally comes from the mushroom things I think
what is it asking for that you're having trouble with? maybe we can sus out what the block in your crafting is
gonna check, im switching my game to english
If you have the mortar, go to the alchemist and make the bug dust...that is the most missed crafting material in the beginning game that holds back a lot of other things
its goo
Yeah, make the bug dust
Never you!
It's not well stated, but you have to take critter parts and break them down to bug dust, to even get the goo recipe -_-
Can you blame us for missing it? I mean who in there right mind says hmm I am gonna grind up these bug shells for the heck of it๐คฃ
LOL I missed it too. I said it was the most missed thing.
Demented little boys who also burn ants for fun.
always me :))))
Probably also the same ones who lick toads
A good rule of thumb for this game is if you see a recipe, make it once, doesn't matter if you need it or not, just make it once
MMMM bug shells
I licked a banana slug once.
yeah it shoul just unlock the stuff if u got the base material. Never needed that dust so why would i make it
(There was a valid reason)
uh huh...sure
That would be too easy!
They dont call it grinding for resources for no reason!
oh you will lol
but as a general rule it's always good to craft whatever you can
cause you never know what it will open up
Of course they will, they just said they needed goo LOL
Its bed time. You guys stays fiery 
having one of those days where my shift isn't even over for 2 more hours and I am having a beer (work from home).
that's a day....:(
I'm so done with this week already
Well if you work m-f, you're over halfway.
when you are a salaried programmer who works from home, the lines between working hours are sadly blurred
the only good thing I can say about it is sometimes I work 10 hours a week, others I work 70 hours a week. It ultimately balances out, but still sucks during those crunch times
Yeah I can understand that even though I'm not one.
I can thankfully just remind my bosses I worked 16 hours the day before and am cutting early, they never argue
cheers ๐ป
I love the "as long as you get everything done on time it's cool" work flex culture. Sadly I'm doing RTO this january ๐ข
hello this game has been amazing!!
HELLO! Can't wait for October 42nd!
10/11 โฅ
I count myself lucky. I was working for the same company during covid. We saved their asses by proving the board of directors wrong and showed strong sales throughout covid. The board came to us after covid and said we can have anything we want, we asked to remain WFH and they granted it unconditionally. I have co-workers who had to RTO in January, but our group is 100% exempt for as long as we stay under their employment.
I sincerely am sorry you have to RTO, hybrid or not, it sucks
I complain about my job, think we all do, especially when we put in stupidly long hours. I hope WFH is the future for everyone though.
I'm right there with you. I know there are certain folks who don't love it but WFH is the way for me. I'm much more productive and SO much happier. Adding 2ish hours of commuting every day is going to be garbo.
72% of game developers say Steam is effectively a PC gaming monopoly
https://www.techspot.com/news/110133-survey-finds-72-developers-believe-steam-pc-gaming.html
I have to agree. As awesome a company Steam is (they truly treat their employees well and I have always been jelly of the one person I know that works there).... they ARE a monopoly lol.
this game just keeps getting better and better
will my current seed/world be outdate with the water update? Or is water only spawnning in the new zone coming
and better
Water won't be as prominent as in the new biome but it'll be there
Just waiting for the Jukebox in the game so we can play our own music.
so I'm currently downloading the game. I've got a few questions
- What should I look out for in this game?
- Where do I go for info to research on builds and shit?
- Can I play this game offline?
Welcome ๐
thank you
This is a good site. https://enshrouded.wiki.gg/wiki/Main_Page
- Having fun, do shtuff you like.
- #combat-and-skills but mostly it's not that deep that one needs to look up.
- Yes, it's the most left option if you start a world "private"
I'm doing my research now, and there aren't many builds that appropriate for the solo player
but I'll discuss that in #combat-and-skills
The MSQ will take you to all relevant places on the map. You can pretty much play however you want depending on how you like to play...crafting, building, exploring, ect
Eh? Mostly enemies fall flat as long as you're not early mage or bad prepared
And mage post 25 starts to catch up the more intellect one gathers
damn, I was planning on going mage
I never had an issue early game mage
Start to finish solo mage and that was BEFORE we could lower the difficulty
As I said, as long as you're prepared - it's not tough
Agreed
I also like to dig holes lead enemies into them and then shoot them with wand like fish in a barrel
I'm not a complete idiot! I played Path of Exile 2 and Grim Dawn! >_>
YOU CAN DO THAT!?
It also depends if you get talents like the necromancy thing, that makes a good distraction
The enemies can't break terrain
Oh there's necromancy?
But I heard necro is kinda trash in this gmae
kINDA YOU CAN GET A SKILL OR A GEM THAT HAS A CHANCE TO SPAWN A FRIENDLY SKELLY UPON ENEMY KILL
No one said that.
But take your time and consider the stuff you got before jumping. Might save you from frustration. 
Yelling tonight huh
Ignore the caps....Dang fat fingers....
Depends
Don't look at it as a playstyle but more as an addition for distraction of enemies on your tail
Anyway office closes now until 'morrow
goodnight
I'm going to just screw around a bit in the game and see how I go
Honestly, as much as I dislike some of the things Valve does, namely just archaic stuff with Steam, I'd 100% prefer to use them over something like EGS which I'm not convinced isn't mining crypto in the background with as terrible as their launcher functions on any system.
Guess that's me, the trash necro
I'M SORRY!!!
Is Necro possible solo though?
yes, I play solo
and I main wand! I am a mess.
Doing everything WRONG
I carry lots of skully pots for OH S**T! moments
and just unleash a horde upon the... uh... horde
I need to play Necro
I'm going to hit you up for tips
but holy crap, man!
The shaders are taking so long to compiel
almost 2 hours and 63%
If you are in game while they compile they will take longer. I just sit in the main menu as it makes it a lot quicker
I've BEEN in the menu
Ah, now that I have no idea on
is this going to happen everytime I load up the game?
No. It should only happen after a game update or driver update.
And I have like 7 updates worth of compiling right
April fools day update plans?
no I cam into this game like late
I know it's far in the future but might as well plant that seed now
I do not konw why it's taking ALMOST TWO HOURS
Nah sorry I was random inputting lmao
Game is large it's okay
Patience makes the world work smoother
FREAKING FINALLY
Who is going to tell em that a new update is coming very soon ๐
The song from The Platters "Time goes by so slowly" comes to mind๐. Good morning all!
Yip.....I am a bit short on that!
hopefully this upcoming update will put the game on sale so I can buy it 
This game is soooo worth any cent (coin?) you pay
Hello everyone, my name is John. I signed up on this server because my friend used to play on your server a lot and had been telling me about it for some time. He was in a serious car accident on his way home from work and sadly did not survive. I'm not a gamer at all; my little brother just created this account for me.
He didn't have many friends, so maybe one of you played with him. His name was Lucas.
It's been several months now since I've come to terms with his death, and I'd like to know if anyone has spoken to him, to find out if you know anything more. Thank you in advance.
Have a good evening/day.
I am so very sorry for your loss ๐
๐ซ
Iโm so sorry ๐ that is awfulโฆ
What was their discord name if you know?
It is so sad to hear ....I am sorry for your loss ๐ค
the skully pots are just pokeballs and the skully are ghastly lol
Did the poison butcher knife enemy stop dropping his weapon or have I just jad terrible rng this playthrough
If you know his discord name, you can filter all mentions or post from him and see who all he has spoken with
Floating city isn't reachable correct
Took me 20ish kills for my first drop
That is correct
Soon
Evening, cuties! โ
do we guys know how often the game get discount at steam? and how much was the lowest price?
Mooornin โ
Morning c:
Mornin Miss Jacjac.hope you had a lovely day so far?
Itโs been boring. Iโve been battling sleep
Give in, your bed is calling
Dont battle sleep? embrace it for a change? ๐
Whatever repercussions come from you falling asleep is up to the you 10 hours from now to deal with
I gotta time my sleep right, I have to be up at like 12 pm for an early shift at work
urgh... jeah.. fair.. thats different.. and sucks ๐ตโ๐ซ
Yeah it really really sucks lmao
Morning. Imagine being me. Got the mens flu. But need to visit doc again today because it won't go away. 
morning. weeeelll get better soon then mate..and stay in bed
oh no the cool guy is here
Where? 
You're showing off your fancy ring here
Wish I was as cool as Ao
arent u a vampire? aint they cold blooded anyway? ๐
No I'm pretty sure that's the lizard people
Good morning beautiful people
Mornin Slay
Hot blooded vampire
guess there comes the gremlin floof in :3
If vampires are considered undead creatures, would they ever fall into either category?
Since no blood would be flowing through them
vampires explained with modern medicine standarts would have a hard time walkin since all the blood would sink down xD
I am not cool! I would describe me as cozy.
Cool n cozy
Them being undead also wouldn't work because in pretty much every media they consume blood, which means their bodies have to somehow digest it
thats why i like hohlbeins vampyrs. they work a bit different
I've never heard of those before
guessed as much. wolfgang hohlbein is a german fantasy writer. has a series called chronikles of the undieing. good stuff. though im not sure if its also available as translation
but essentially his version of vampires are called vampyr.
they dont realy suck blood in the classical sense. instead the rip out the life force / energy
I've seen a couple of iterations of vampires that do that rather then the typical blood thing
Always found it cool
Especially when the artist did a good job of drawing the process
That's why I stick to the concept of a reverse vampire.
Feels more survival like, if every human wants to drink your blood
How about the psychic vampires called the True Knot in Dr Sleep?!
They feed on the psychic essence of children with powers
sounds similar to hohlbeins vampyr. cool concept
Hello
Howdy!
shares powdered mini donuts.
now u bringin smthing i actualy would take :3
I'ma act like you said "thank you." ๐
hey usualy u bring stuff i rather not right away in the early mornin ๐
that sounds delightful
It's quite yummy c: I bought it yesterday~
hello everyone!
Awoos to all yous. Seems like this game has a big EU time zones playerbase! Good for me and my late night US playtimes :>
Whats everyone up to?
Thank you for reminding me that I have some in the kitchen !
Rockin' level 12 like a baddie haha.
Simply existing
Noice, I can't decide what to work on next in my base
make plans for a pool, we get water soon(tm) ๐
I have plans for a roman style public bath for my village :3
I expect cute mosaic art!
I 'll try my best x'D
i wanted to make more village houses but i also want to shop online
Mornin Chief โ
mhmgfmhmgf
ยฏ_(ใ)_/ยฏ
yeah I getchu
hungry mostly
hows the Carpal tunnel syndrome commin along? ๐
I haven't had that in nearly a decade
need more patchnotes to type then? :3
Satisfactory has bought Keen Games some time. I will enjoy this game a lot! I just found the Awesome Sink and yes, it is Awesome!
Yeah, it finally came to xbox and I need it so bad.
I don't do those I just make them better
No Spaghetti! Organize or substitute!
Fr
bop

