the-tavern

[rigid quest]

wait what? did i miss that part of the info? i mean... like actual fishes to have in your village ponds rivers etc?

[forest hill]

yeah just not with a spell caster

[twilit comet]

unlimited ouf of combat regen is cool

[lament monolith]

They showed that at the gamescon release

[rigid quest]

o

i must be blind,,, time to rewatch! thanks bud

[green vine]

you can also see some fish in his inventory from this video

[forest hill]

the mana regen is the sole reason i switched to ranger

[twilit comet]

yeah, the game is a mess in that sense
you have caster gear pre highlands but realistically you really shouldnt use it
bonus points for the lizard knockdown not being triggered by magic

[still quartz]

The real question is are we getting fish tanks and am I gonna have to construct an entirely new wing of my home to accommodate 70 of them

[forest hill]

ill use anything if it allows for me to be a pure caster tho. dont care what it is

[noble anchor]

Just wait until the health Regen nerf...

[dense abyss]

Then I’ll solo it slower!!

[still quartz]

Health regen doesn't matter if you don't get hit 😏

[forest hill]

ill never play as mage in this game

[twilit comet]

as a pure caster the third boss is only beatable with cheese or ungodly skills

or infinite potions xd

[forest hill]

yeah mana regen sucks this badly

[still quartz]

Which boss?

[forest hill]

this is why i switched
my build is melee ranger

[twilit comet]

well, no
you cant trigger his dmg weakness
so he always resists

[lament monolith]

Is it just me or do I feel a presence missing from the discord now???Hmmm Im sure Ill get to the hart of it.

[twilit comet]

the fat blue lizard which i consider this games worst sin against mages

[pliant quarry]

Part of the upcoming combat changes is adding a lot more ways for mages to get mana regen in their builds

[forest hill]

i mean ive had enemies resist arrows too

[still quartz]

Oh that one isn't too bad

[forest hill]

like armor and such? will mana regen no longer suck?

[still quartz]

The boss in the summits is harder

[twilit comet]

well, it isnt, if you have a bow
else it has like triple hp

[still quartz]

My advice is to wand spam x)

[dense abyss]

I’d assume you still have to manage your mana cause infinite mana would be silly

[forest hill]

i want to make a build of a pure caster, wands and staffs only.
but mana regen is the one issue im having

[pliant quarry]

Yeah part of why a lot of the base regen is being toned down is because we wanted to put more emphasis on gear, armor and rings and such tend to give a lot more of those kinds of stats, and wards in particular are being reworked to be more mage focused, like giving mana regen and stuff

[twilit comet]

just take a bow to cancel the roar
its stupid that ranged magic cant cancel it but alas the devs hate magic

[lament monolith]

Like they have all said dont be dreading the regen stuff until its out of testing and actually in our games we have no idea how itll actually work

[forest hill]

thatll be doable and food has mana regen too?

[still quartz]

The roar is what spawns its ads right?

[forest hill]

and not just mid to late game either

[twilit comet]

yes

[dense abyss]

Yep until we play it we don’t know so wait and see and enjoy game

[still quartz]

Might I suggest fireball to blow them up

[forest hill]

i swear if they fix mana regen ill totally play as a mage

[twilit comet]

canceling the roar removes the resistances on the boss
not breaking the roar is completely crippling your dps

[pliant quarry]

I believe so yeah, I don't know all the changes because there are way too many, I saw the list of changes and it seemed like almost every piece of gear of food was getting tweaked at least a little bit lol

[forest hill]

we can only hope that mages become fun to play

[pliant quarry]

But I wouldn't think of this update as just buffs/nerfs, it's a big change to the philosophy of gear balance in general.

[twilit comet]

its honestly doable if you dont mind using a wand 30% of the time

[forest hill]

mana regen is my single issue

[green vine]

@pliant quarry so food will also have new properties also?

[forest hill]

i dont but they break easy so i need a lot

[pliant quarry]

Kinda, a lot of foods are getting tweaked and new ones are getting added

[forest hill]

wand 100% but like they break so often

[green vine]

Will we need to recook the food to get those new tweeks ?

[twilit comet]

the wand is the backup if your initial mana burst didnt murder already

[forest hill]

once i found out about the mana regen i went ranger/ melee

[twilit comet]

problem is that your only permanent spell for half the game is ice, which is just the worst

[forest hill]

i do more dmg with arrows and swords tho

[pliant quarry]

I'm not sure actually, I know this is the case for gear, you'll need to find new gear to get the new stats, but I'm not sure if that also applies to food or not

[forest hill]

so spells are worthless on that front too

[long ocean]

That beginner fire spell is a gamechanger i will finally be able to actually do a mage playthru instead of speccing into one later

[twilit comet]

the advantage of spells isnt dmg, its that they dont use stamina

[green vine]

Thank you for your info 🙂

[dense abyss]

Be Gandalf when no mana hit with stick

[forest hill]

2 twigs makes 10 arrows so yeah ranger is cool. wish mages were

[still quartz]

I'll play ranger when they add more eternal arrows

[fiery orchid]

chain lighting and well placed fireballs do great on groups tho, and fireball does good for ppl with shields

[twilit comet]

well, gandalf is a demigod wielding a godly weapon
so olorin is cool by default

[forest hill]

where can i find those? and how can i do the mana regen to cast often?

[twilit comet]

endgame

[dense abyss]

Well I called my staff sticky they are cool too

[twilit comet]

as i said: the devs hate mages

[forest hill]

so only in end game is mage actually fun

[still quartz]

Eternal fireball spell can be obtained pretty early game. Eternal chain lighting is obtained late game

[fiery orchid]

if you havent, you will later in the game, and potions or selecting a staff that does "mana regen on damage"

[forest hill]

where?

[still quartz]

But you can find and craft non Eternal spells throughout

[twilit comet]

third biome, for the record

[fiery orchid]

but ass they said mage/caster is kinda underwhelming early game right now

[forest hill]

end game mages are fun but mid and early game we get nothing

[green vine]

My wife played mage from start on 3 different play throughs and loved it.

[fiery orchid]

mid is fairly good actually, if you spec into wand damage stuff

[pliant quarry]

We don't, it's just an incredibly hard class to balance. When the game first released mage was by far the most overpowered class, so we tried to tone it down and it ended up going a bit too far into the other direction and becoming weak.

[rigid quest]

Got the info about fishes, COOL!
But still didnt find anything about plants - and for some reason my yt is not working so i cant check videos O.o
Do you happen to remember if any aquatic plants will be added?

And sorry for the trouble

[fiery orchid]

wands do WAY beter at "lockon" than arrows

[still quartz]

We will never forget what you took from us, our immortality....

[forest hill]

mana regen for one is terrible
melee and arrows do far more dmg so im gonna stick with that

[vernal imp]

Gods I miss Water Aura. Being a solo healer for a group was so nice.

[forest hill]

if they fix mana regen ill be a mage again

[fiery orchid]

if you are as early game as it sounds, this is only accurate at that state

[dense abyss]

Playing now though can see how broken water aura was xD

[forest hill]

its a shame tho as my playstyle is battle mage

[twilit comet]

i have seen several decisions which are just ?! even from a casual glance
i could write half an essay on what would help but frankly i dont think you need my input on it

[still quartz]

Tbh we saw how broken it was in the beginning, it was only a matter of time x)

[vernal imp]

For sure. I can see why the nerf happened. You end up with so many skill points that the whole team get spec into water aura.

[forest hill]

being a ranger melee i actually never do that in games

[dense abyss]

When game first came out had like 4 people stack water aura no deaths ever

[twilit comet]

infinite food buff without using food for the entire party, what could go wrong?

[forest hill]

but when i found out that its far better then the mana regen i switched

[pliant quarry]

Yeah, a lot of us haven't been happy with the state of mage either, don't worry. There's a reason we have several dedicated devs working solely on combat now

[dense abyss]

I for one welcome our new fish overlord

[forest hill]

so we are gonna get a mana regen so we can just have wands and staffs?

[drifting snow]

Guys im just now coming back to the game after a couple of years im level 16 but lots of items are missing , for example The carpenter use to offer ladders and other things but now he doesn’t , did one of the new updates remove ladders and lots of other items ?? Whats going on ?? Do i need to start a brand new playthrough??

[twilit comet]

if you dont have it on your list: let staff magic knock the lizard out of its roar

[forest hill]

like my dream build for this game is only using wands and staffs nothing else

why do the devs hate spell casters so mcuh tho?

[vernal imp]

Relaaaaax

[forest hill]

we need mana to cast spells

[dense abyss]

They don’t? It’s just hard to balance

[still quartz]

I've never really had a probably with being a spell caster, it's been my main build since I started playing this game

[twilit comet]

but no stamina, thats the tradeoff

[forest hill]

this is the first game that im not a mage

[still quartz]

I've only ever used wands and staffs

[forest hill]

my ranger/ melee doesnt use stamina for attacks

[twilit comet]

pure magic on the third boss is cringe

[forest hill]

i need this build

[still quartz]

Git gud gamer /s

[drifting snow]

Im assuming the new updates broke the game for returning characters??

[barren hawk]

I'm curious where the thought process on lowering base HP regen came from though, without gear my base HP regen is 0, with gear 3, and I wouldn't call taking 4 1/2 mins to fully regen my HP as even remotely OP, really it's extraordinarily slow

[still quartz]

Shouldn't break anything but certain changes might mean certain things are locked behind other stuff pr have been moved around

[twilit comet]

funnily enough even 1 regen is pretty useful

[fiery orchid]

last several didn't for the most part. world changes can be a pain, and as mentioned in todays videos weapon drops dont get changed retroactively

[dense abyss]

They are rebalancing it through gear rings weapons food, so less passive more gearing for it

[forest hill]

i wish mana regen was like health regen is now

that would really help

[pliant quarry]

No it shouldn't, your character and game world should automatically update with the new content when the new update goes live, you won't need to restart anything.

[barren hawk]

There's already no passive though, if I take my gear off I don't regen any hp

[still quartz]

I mean you can get +6 mana regen just from rings alone

[forest hill]

where?

[drifting snow]

But how do you get ladders now?? Back when i played before you just needed to give the carpenter all of his stuff and it would be available

[twilit comet]

the mana rings

[forest hill]

can only find +3

[drifting snow]

Did they just remove ladders from the game?

[forest hill]

i have 2 +3 but wheres +6?

[still quartz]

Two exceptional rings of mana

[drifting snow]

Im coming back after almost two years

[forest hill]

cant even find that on the resource server tho?

[still quartz]

3 plus 3 equals 6

[barren hawk]

I wouldn't call 15 mins to fully regen my HP as useful

[forest hill]

oh yeah someone got the 2 rings for me on the resource server

[near breach]

Wow you’ll def see some changes

[still quartz]

It's a whole new world

[twilit comet]

it means you can regen without items and food buffs
thats a bigger deal than you assume, especially early on

[forest hill]

but a mage playthrough shouldnt have to rely on a resource server to have mana regen

[barren hawk]

Not at that low rate, especially since you don't even regen faster in bed, I always found it to be painfully bad at lower levels, with no gear you literally never regenerate hp

[drifting snow]

Yeah thats what brought me back , but feel like if they removed ladders building will be more difficult

[still quartz]

It doesn't really

[forest hill]

i should have access to these items just by playing the game

[drifting snow]

Looks like they kept the scaffolding ladders tho

[still quartz]

You do :3

[forest hill]

im weanting mana regen so badly

[drifting snow]

But removed the stand alone ladders

[near breach]

They didn’t remove ladders

[forest hill]

mid to late game only?

[still quartz]

Well your not gonna find God tier items in a starter cave

[drifting snow]

Nobody can explain how to get them tho

[still quartz]

But there are rings for mana regen at earlier stages and levels

[forest hill]

no no not god tier just mana regen

[drifting snow]

Carpenter only offers the scaffolding ladders

[forest hill]

+1 or 2?

even 1 or 2 would be good early game

[twilit comet]

get a decent staff and upgrade it

[still quartz]

Can get +2 to mana regen early on, +4 for mid game and +6 for end game just from rings

[forest hill]

cant find it. the only staffs that i found were any good was resource server

[near breach]

Through the carpenter. You may have to unlock stuff idk

[forest hill]

wheres the +2 ring?

[twilit comet]

i have a staff with +4 mana regen + 5% mana leech

[forest hill]

where did you find this?

[twilit comet]

at level 12 btw
rng in revelwoods

[near breach]

Or are you referring to the leaning ladders. We don’t have those yet.

[still quartz]

Earliest is spring lands for +1 rings for a max of 2 mana regen

[drifting snow]

I’ve already unlocked all of his stuff , then only thing i can think is one of the updates broke the game

[daring pewter]

Welcome back!! Ladders are still there, not sure why you can't make one. It is EA and things are expected to change and the fact that it developed so much since you last played just shows you how much hard work and dedication the Devs and team did put in. I hope you find a way to enjoy the game as it is my absolute favourite

[still quartz]

Revelwood will give rings that give +2 for a max of 4 mana regen

[forest hill]

mage character rn is lvl 15 my ranger/ melee main is lvl 21

[drifting snow]

Yeah I always loved this game back when it came out but i decided to leave until they added water and a weather system to the game and 2 years later here we are they listened to the fans

[twilit comet]

i hate how rng dependent the game is tbh
every tier should have craftable weapons as a base level

[drifting snow]

I think all the new updates broke my save from years ago I may have to unfortunately start a new character

Lots lf things I already unlocked are just not available

[fiery orchid]

you likely jsut need to pick up the materials or talk to the right npc

so go to all your chests and pick up every type of item you have to "refresh" your seen materials

[drifting snow]

Who besides the carpenter should I talk to

[fiery orchid]

everyone you have, but its more likely a "pick up materials" thing

[drifting snow]

If you could help it would save me hours brother

[fiery orchid]

I can't hop in game, but Isuggest #troubleshooting as thats more focused on helping with issues

[wanton folio]

guys I think I"m old

[drifting snow]

Thanks

[daring pewter]

Perhaps it will be an exciting new adventure as so many things did change....a tip.....don't assume things you knew are still the same when you explore ....some nice surprises and additional stuff....have fun

[wanton folio]

I went to taco bell for the first time in two yearsit was awful

[fiery orchid]

I know I have had a "need to pick up materials to re-unlock recipies" once

[drifting snow]

Thanks,I love this game and community

[drifting snow]

Oh really

That might be it

[green vine]

only thing i can eat there is bean burrito , i know the pain!

[wanton folio]

it's ok I don't neeed taco bell in my life but it is weird

I seem to recall I USED to like their dorito taco

[rustic mist]

can someone help me with mage tools? any powerful wand or something , im lvl 13

[barren hawk]

Not old, well maybe, but it being awful is just it being taco bell, lol

[wanton folio]

heh

[high nexus]

where in albaneve summits can I get a legendary staff with a socket... only the fell dragon youngling? or are there chests that can drop these as well?

[plucky linden]

great seeing the news updates

[wanton folio]

whereever we say (I don't know) might change with the update 😉

[high nexus]

well im kinda hoping I get that staff before the update

[quiet geyser]

nobody saw that

[near breach]

For sure there’s something missing … a hart seems to be missing from my heart

[twilit comet]

any gold chest can, in theory

[high nexus]

so that one still applies then? good to know, thank you

[narrow stone]

Will the water thing be added automatically to Enshrouded or will that be a separate expansion?

[spare pine]

hello

[waxen cove]

Sometimes I wish I was no-life'ing this discord more. I hear I missed some drama last night

[high nexus]

probably automatically, since enshrouded aint in full release yet anyway

[narrow stone]

Oh oh, thanks!

[quartz sigil]

Hello Everyone

[forest hill]

Have a friend in my server that also is a mage and he uses wands but constantly has to repair his gear. He said mana Regen was terrible too

I've never heard any wizard say otherwise

[lament monolith]

I play only mage and with mana leech I stay full on mana almost all the time never had an issue

[forest hill]

Where do you find anything with mana leech at all?

[lament monolith]

My staff has it

[twilit comet]

many staves do, and its one of the best options to have

[forest hill]

Where to find?

[twilit comet]

any gold or silver chest, its rng

[lament monolith]

Yeah I mean as long as you hit an enemy you get a veruy nice chunk back

[rustic mist]

can someone help me with mage tools? any powerful wand or something , im lvl 13

[twilit comet]

which is why mages get extra pwned by this games loot mechanics

[twilit comet]

there is a silver chest you can force respawn

[rustic mist]

where and how

[twilit comet]

just loot it and quit to menu until you got your item

[forest hill]

So I have to find it at random?

[rustic mist]

ok, but still, maybe someone already have powerfull staff or wand and can give it to me? I have happy birthday today, but kinda lonely

[twilit comet]

Thornhold (quest location), grapple up the central hill twice, then fly over the broken bridge
up on that hill is a grave, dig it up, loot the quest, quit to menu

unfortunately i cant post pics here else i would

[twilit comet]

as i said, mages gets extra pwned by this games mechanics

[still quartz]

In return we get power

Hoardes of enemies simply crumble under us

[twilit comet]

once you made it to level 20

[oblique temple]

Hello guys
Anyone know when is the water update coming ?

[still quartz]

October 42nd

[oblique temple]

XD

[still quartz]

Or November 10th in normal terms

[pastel oyster]

Wouldn't that make it the 41st?

or is my morning fog brain breaking math again?

[unkempt atlas]

there's an update video in #news

[harsh forum]

WEAPON CRAFTING!?!?!!

[unkempt atlas]

they mentioned that, yes

to ease the pain of the RNG gods spiting you

[harsh forum]

I was just recently saying to myself I wish you could do that so I can load up entire walls with weapons on displays and have an armory

[twilit comet]

fking finally

[pliant quarry]

please don't make me do math

[still quartz]

I was told it's only for lore items though

[harsh forum]

I'm still watching the video, paused to come exclaim about that

[twilit comet]

anything is better than only level 7 gear lmao

[unkempt atlas]

yeah, like making a higher level Wailing Blade

[still quartz]

I'd love if we could craft every weapon some day

[smoky halo]

#news message

"WELLIES"

I am so American I see this word and laugh.

[twilit comet]

looks so cool

[harsh forum]

Shoutout to the homies that got a discord cameo in the video 🤣🤣

[unkempt atlas]

lilibat is a prophet, a seer

[meager plinth]

Not sure if I am doing something wrong but I cannot tame a frizzly goat. I throw the bait in front of it and it never takes it.

[forest hill]

thats what im saying
mana regen is so bad i switched to ranger/ melee

[twilit comet]

you saw that dorable staff of mine? yeah, endgame thats infinite mana

[bold ocean]

Huh... Update 6 coming out on my birthday was NOT on my bingo card lol

[twilit comet]

issue is pre mana potions or if rng HATES you

[bold ocean]

eitherway I'm glad they delayed it as needed

[pliant quarry]

yeah early game mage is definitely weak right now, on our radar for sure and we have a few changes/new gear additions in the next update that should hopefully help that issue, like the new spell we teased

[vale bronze]

is there a link to the developer footage of the new biome because i see new footage in chiselchip's video and i kinda wanna see it without the talking

[pastel shadow]

Toast, are you able to comment if talent trees might see a rework/TLC in next update?

[forest hill]

without mana tho itll be pointless

[pliant quarry]

Well like I already said we have a lot of new stuff like food and gear that players can build into to help with mana regen problems

[unkempt atlas]

what, water isn't good enough for you? j/k

[pliant quarry]

Not a rework, but there will be new additions and probably some changes I imagine (I don't know all the patch notes yet)

[forest hill]

thatll be good

[bold ocean]

W A D D A
it' good for you

[forest hill]

im hoping that ill have enough mana to cast this new spell constantly and without the resource server

[unkempt atlas]

Do not, my friends, become addicted to water update. It will take hold of you, and you will resent its absence!

[pliant quarry]

but I'm thirsty

[civic zenith]

water u talkin about?

[forest hill]

kind of wanna go back to that update that made mages op ngl

[civic zenith]

mages are still op. just not in early game

[forest hill]

like skills and such

[fiery orchid]

I think that was in in Beta?

[forest hill]

since i cant seem to find anything mana regen at all

[fiery orchid]

skills stil lget you fairly OP once you hit midgame

[civic zenith]

Mid to endgame mage is a goddamn beast

[fiery orchid]

lots of armor has mana regen, some staffs have mana back on damage as a % of damage

[twilit comet]

and base mana regen too

[forest hill]

where can i find this armor? without resource server? like in the world?

[dapper narwhal]

some one knows what are the use of de blink dodge? like the perk itself, not the ones that u can get after it

[twilit comet]

you can craft mana regen armour at the alch

[forest hill]

oh i need to unlock him for sure

[fiery orchid]

I find mana back on damage more effective than staff mana regen but thats jsut me 🙂 wands with mana regen can be good too, switch to wand, switch back

[forest hill]

his armor types i mean

[harsh forum]

I think I already asked this in off topic once but do we have any MMA fans in here?

[forest hill]

its too bad you cant just use a staff

[fiery orchid]

you get a fairly good distance "rush" blink that zooms you in the direction you are going

[elfin needle]

@toast. Hello. Sorry for the ping. But I have a question related to what you showed us today in the video. Do you mind if I ask?

[forest hill]

and the blink can be a weapon

[dapper narwhal]

but, its not the same distance as the normal dodge?

[fiery orchid]

that rush has a fairly low cooldown and moves you a good distance only costing you stamina, but its amazing for dodging and area control

it moves you more and faster, and faster "recovery" AFAIK

[dapper narwhal]

hmmm now i get it

[pliant quarry]

Sure, though your ping didn't work lol

[fiery orchid]

liek you can chain blink dodge really fast

and adding the "stunbreaker" to it is AMAZING, becuase you WILL get stunned starting midgame

[unkempt atlas]

epic ping fail

[elfin needle]

It was shown that we can craft weapons. If we find them, the recipe will automatically unlock for us. Will we be able to craft various weapons for various levels? Like for example if I am level 37, can I craft a level 37 weapon?

[pliant quarry]

The crafting will scale as you level up, though I'm not sure if it will technically be your exact level or not I haven't checked. But yeah that's the point of the lore weapon crafting system. You'll be able to craft higher level versions of lore weapons you find early on

[elfin needle]

Will this impact the other weapons aswell? Like the standard bow, club, wand which you can craft early in the game from your character crafting menu

[pliant quarry]

I'm not actually sure, I'd have to ask Christoph about that one, but his shift ended several hours ago

I know this system is specifically for lore weapons, the unique weapons with special names and stuff, but I'm not sure if there's also been changes to the basic crafting weapons on top of that.

[elfin needle]

You do not need to ask. I thought you knew. I am very curious to experience that when I will play the update.

[mossy steeple]

Petition to rename the golden retriever Toast?

[pliant quarry]

If I was a dog would I be a golden retriever

[elfin needle]

To be honest with you...I am here since the start and I noticed the improvements this game got so far. It gets better and better. And this is still early access. I simply cannot think of how the 1.0 will be next year. In my opionion it will revolutionize everything it was done so far!

[small pendant]

I say you'd be more a mastiff

[pliant quarry]

are you saying that I drool

[forest hill]

chihuahua or a lab

but chihuahua cuz they are just too cute

[mossy steeple]

dog + toast = hotdog?

[patent wasp]

Hi guys, is there any talk of a building mode? As in no cost building ?

[quasi saffron]

I am Chihuahua.

[mossy steeple]

It is on the roadmap, I believe!

[quasi saffron]

Full release

[pliant quarry]

It's something that the team knows a lot of people want, so it's on our radar, but it's not coming next update

[patent wasp]

ooooh cant wait 😄

[small pendant]

Lol I don't know about that, but mastiffs are homebodies but love their family

[patent wasp]

Thanks for the fast reply!

[rustic cape]

I was wondering if someone could help me really quick with building .. I am just strating out and i have the building blocks and a hammer but when i go to build all of my options are red and i am unable to build or place anything inside my square near my flame alter ... I think i am missing something simple i just for the life of me can not figure it out.

[twilit comet]

quit to menu

[rustic cape]

Ok is it just something that i need to reset ?

[waxen cove]

The new gold pickaxe and hatchet look good

[twilit comet]

ew, golden tools

[small pendant]

Yeah, it happens occasionally. You log out and back in and generally it fixes it

[waxen cove]

it definitely seems an odd upgrade from steel to gold, but it looks pretty

[rustic cape]

ok thanks for the advice

Yep worked like a charm thanks @small pendant

[twilit comet]

i really dont get why so many of these games upgrade from copper (makes sense) to bronze (makes sense) to silver (cringe) to gold (super ultra cringe)

[rustic cape]

and @twilit comet

[waxen cove]

its not silver

it's steel

[twilit comet]

steel makes sense, yes
but then we get gold, which is yikes

[waxen cove]

And it went from Copper, Bronze, Iron and then Steel

[twilit comet]

(iron is actually worse than bronze but i digress)

[vernal imp]

I mean it's a game where you can cast fireballs and summon undead skulls to fight for you. It's not strictly realistic. I think gold weapons are beautiful :>

[lost merlin]

think explosives will still work in the water? or will we need depth charges or something lol

[winged crow]

it will blow a hole in the water 😛

[lost merlin]

Im kinda hoping we cant just use fire in the water lol. be deep under water casting fireballs and stuff

[pliant quarry]

What are you talking about, it's very realistic that I can use what is essentially a hang glider, dive face first into the ground from the top of a mountain, and roll away completely unharmed

Enshrouded is basically a life sim

[civic zenith]

we wont be able to use fight skills underwater. thats already been said

[lost merlin]

cool, i missed that part then.

[daring pewter]

Nice....name changed appropriately 😁. What will it be next?

[daring silo]

"Combat update is coming, just be patient"

[daring pewter]

I like it.....patience is a virtue

[twilit comet]

man, the one-block edge created by the half-wooden pieces is great

[daring silo]

RuneScape logic.

That's not true, but it's similar. And honestly a lot of veteran gamers kinda like this progression system through the metals. I'd prefer stuff that actually had good hardness, but I'll accept the gold or silver that a game throws at me.

Terraria did the same stuff.

[twilit comet]

the alternative ores at least had the decency to go from lead (crap) to tungsten (great) to platinum (kinda crap too but better than gold)

[daring silo]

Gotta suspend our disbelief for fantasy games sometimes. Aesthetically, gold is gonna stand out better than tungsten.

UNLESS the model is wildly different.

Which we've seen games do. Can't have all the upgrades from iron also be the same color. Because, well, metals are grey scale a lot.

[quiet geyser]

im kinda new to the game - and theres underwater???? im thalassophobic. im cooked.

[twilit comet]

have you tried subnautica?^^

[harsh forum]

I do this all the time irl

It's pretty easy

I think Keen actually got that mechanic from seeing me do it

[quiet geyser]

no and i never will. BUT the weird thing is, i used to watch some videos of it before. idk why i did that lol

[harsh forum]

You should search up No Man's Sky deep ocean planets

[quiet geyser]

dude im convinced youre just trying to make it worse for me now lmfao but i will (maybe)

[twilit comet]

its not nearly as bad as subnautica
that game triggered thalassophobia in me and i usually dont have that beyond any normal meassure

[daring silo]

There's gonna be a whole zone based on water content. And other zones will have water added to them. But that leaves a lot of dry land for you to enjoy.

[harsh forum]

Yeah there's not any hostile mobs in the deep ocean in NMS

[quiet geyser]

yes, that im grateful for. just kind of a shame that i cant enjoy it as much but yk, ill try. thank you

[twilit comet]

SN doesnt even need the leviathans to trigger it but the reapers sure dont make it ANY better

[harsh forum]

It's more so just the infinite darkness that's scary 😭 and if you are scared of those things it's easy to trick yourself into thinking MAYBE there is a giant creature that will eat you

[twilit comet]

like, the blood kelp zone was really bad
and then the ghost sniped me from behind to make it worse lmao

[civic zenith]

depends whats needet :3

[twilit comet]

i need an option to commit tactical war crimes against the blue wannabe dragon

[carmine harness]

hello

[still quartz]

Have you tried throwing between 20 to a hundred fireballs at it

[twilit comet]

no, cuz i dont have the eternal one yet and im cheap

[carmine scroll]

get a crowbar and hit him im the knees ya.

[twilit comet]

then the sucker hits me in the face
is there a reason why staff magic doesnt cancel the roar besides "magic boys get rekt"?

[slim rover]

are talking about the Wana be dragon in the imperial capital?

[twilit comet]

pikes whatever

[carmine scroll]

enemies always have the upperhand when it comes to attack interruption. i hate it.

all i did was run up to him with a big 2handed weapon and smacked away while avoiding his attacks. very boring fight.

[twilit comet]

the games fighting needs an upgrade tbh

[slim rover]

Oh that dumb dumb I had to kite it around and switch between wand bow and daggers but mainly stuck to wand and bow

[twilit comet]

well, i just got butchered cuz i had no bow

and why would I, when im a mage? well, cuz the devs say so, thats why

[slim rover]

i made the mistake of trying with only daggers

[twilit comet]

even worse given its proximity trigger

[slim rover]

I went back to my weapons hoard grabbed a wand and bow

[twilit comet]

well, i have a good staff, great even for low levels

unfortunately that doesnt work on the scaly

[slim rover]

yea

if wasn't at work i would figure out how to give some of my extra stuff

[twilit comet]

i have a bow now, im forging the arrows and the healing items

number two will be a roll

[royal marsh]

3 more weeks to take a bath...

[twilit comet]

i need more endurance
but that can wait til i have the next zone i guess

[edgy wagon]

Explain...

[twilit comet]

unalloyed iron is actually fairly malleable

[small pendant]

Platinum or adamantium...

... Old movie that no one will probably get the reference from... Unobtainium

[blazing saffron]

Hello I hope you are having a wonderful day^^

[oblique ivy]

Can’t wait for casters to become a potion spamming simulator. It’s already pretty rough even with top tier gear and consumables on higher difficulties. Messing with Regen, again, is just gonna make it feel worse.

Buffing durability on weapons will be welcomed by everyone I’m sure but it’s just another buff to melees in disguise since wands are still lacklustre.

Hopeful for the update all the same.

[silver delta]

hello

[edgy wagon]

Did not know that, I always just assumed it went from bronze to iron age because iron was better but part of it was that there was just a butt ton of iron around and tin is apparently really rare as far as metals are concerned. Just always assumed iron was naturally better.

[twilit comet]

easier supply is the reason, yes
is bronze great? sure
is one dude in bronze gear nice? sure
but does he beat the 3 guys in iron equipment (which takes almost the same effort)? lol no

[waxen cove]

Don't think Avatar is old what with the sequels

[twilit comet]

and then you alloy it and suddenly steel is like the best thing ever

[small pendant]

Lol that was from the movie The Core, which is older

[waxen cove]

didnt know that

but it's also from avatar so there

[nimble edge]

when i got to the part about the update delay i was like "NOOOOO" but then he said november 10th?! thats not even that long 🤷

i mean, if they got issues they got issues

i WILL say though, i am a little dissypointed we didnt get anything new 😔

[daring silo]

Old movie?

Oh. Not Avatar.

But I've seen the Core. It's been a while since I've watched, however.

[small pendant]

Have to watch it while suspending any knowledge of true science or logic... But it can be fun

[daring silo]

Star Wars has trained me well for that

[small pendant]

Lol true

[daring silo]

But that's Space Fantasy so you have to. Sci-fi needs to have some hard rules.

[cyan turtle]

Just a random thought . With the water biome it would be nice to have some more Mei inspired props like maybe small oriental bridges and decorations. And a heart felt thanks for the dev vid it was awesomely Zipped.

🧙

[cedar depot]

Craftable Lore Weapons may make patching the loot exploits a moot action, but even if they do "technically" patch the loot chest exploit, I already have TWO ways to break it and have it work as it did before.

bypass loot exploit patch

1. Disable cloud saves, utilize snapshots of the save files (or copies) to roll back to prior RNG chest lockin
2. Use a simple memory space modifiers : Get the memory regions of the game, search for the value of the chest, highlight all addresses setting this lock value and revert the change back to untouched so you can access the chest again and generate a new item

and you can be guarenteed that all the cheaters out there using cheat engine or aurora or whatever will have this on November 11th lol

[frozen whale]

I heard it, and I'm still in February mentally, so I almost died, then realized what month it actually is

[slim rover]

heyo

[rich drift]

I am sad that the update got pushed back as Enshrouded is probably one of my all time favorites and definitely current favorite however, I am appreciative that the devs didn't release a bugged update and updated everyone as to why it was pushed back.

[pliant quarry]

[carmine scroll]

I look forward to trying out the update once it's out.

what?

the furries did nothing wrong.

[twilit comet]

second time one of thos bugs kills me by hitlocking me into a lich attack... siiiigh

[carmine scroll]

?

[twilit comet]

bug sneaks up on me and hits me the moment i try to dodge teleport and the stagger is enough to make the double bolt connect

thats more than half my hp, of course

[carmine scroll]

are you at least the same level as the boss?

i also reccomend a full stack of health potions.

[twilit comet]

ha, the moment the boss doesnt have dr for arbitrary reasons its an easy kill

[sturdy patio]

is it really arbitrary if it stops you from having an easy kill

[twilit comet]

its arbitrary because staves dont trigger it while bows do

oh well, i only need some more boar kills and some amber and im set for the next gear level

[ionic geyser]

Bonjour!

[naive topaz]

Shoutout to lilibat for getting the release day right 😂

[carmine scroll]

i was certainly off. i said 35

[naive topaz]

Just 7 more days and u would’ve hit the money lol

This extension is not bad at all though, I’m glad they’re waiting and patching things

[carmine scroll]

i would have been fine with december 31st! XD

[naive topaz]

Same, I actually expected them to push it back to early next year tbh

[carmine scroll]

nah not that far!

[lament monolith]

Well hello there

How are we all tonight

[spark quartz]

does anyone know if you start a server now and the update comes out do you have to make a new server to get that new content?

[lament monolith]

no itll just update

[carmine scroll]

I am sad tonight.

[lament monolith]

Me too

Nope deff not in this case

[dry geyser]

Is it worth it to start a first play through now or better to wait for the patch in November?

[carmine scroll]

you can keep playing the same world file.

it wont make a huge difference.

some parts of the world might change though.

eh, if you can wait, I say wait

[gray scaffold]

We need to talk about this making us farm our gear again BS.. Listen up.. Replacing the same endgame weapons AGAIN for the new bonus.. Thats INSANE. For me to get lucky to get my bow again, lets crunch the numbers... I used the chest exploit to get the rarest bow TWICE, because you didnt update our gem slots last time... it took about 12 hours of chest grinding... Heres the math..

If you opened that chest once every 1 to 2 minutes, and did this non-stop for 12 hours, that’s:

12 hours × 60 minutes = 720 minutes total

So:

At 1 chest every 1 minute → ~720 chest opens

At 1 chest every 2 minutes → ~360 chest opens

Realistic average if you were doing it quick but not robotically:

Maybe 1.5 minutes per chest → ~480 attempts

⚠️ And every single one required you to:

Restart the server

Reposition, re-loot

Sort junk

Pray

All that for one bow.

NOW if the cooldown is every 2 hours it will take ..

🔢 How long will it take?

500 attempts × 2 hours per attempt
= 1,000 hours of actual logged-in game time

That’s:

~42 full days of 24/7 play

Or more realistically:

~125 days at 8 hours/day

~250 days at 4 hours/day

ALl this so i can get the same piece I already have farmed TWICE, because you wont let our piece just get upgrade AGAIN??

[carmine scroll]

[lament monolith]

They also made them craftable......so if you already had it you can craft it

[cedar depot]

no one likes the Enshrouded RNG, that's why I think they're making Lore Weapons, unique ones, craftable. And that may make patching the loot exploits a moot action, but even if they do "technically" patch the loot chest exploit, I already have TWO ways to break it and have it work as it did before.
bypass loot exploit patch

1. Disable cloud saves, utilize snapshots of the save files (or copies) to roll back to prior RNG chest lockin
2. Use a simple memory space modifiers : Get the memory regions of the game, search for the value of the chest, highlight all addresses setting this lock value and revert the change back to untouched so you can access the chest again and generate a new item
   and you can be guarenteed that all the cheaters out there using cheat engine or aurora or whatever will have this on November 11th lol

[carmine scroll]

i also dont like the change to the chests but we dont need to make a wall of text like that about it.

[rugged fractal]

I'm going to get my ass kicked for saying this. Part of a challenging game is working for what you want.

[carmine scroll]

or post it in two channels.

[carmine scroll]

to a point.

[gray scaffold]

Its the only way to show the math. Sorry for the wall, maybe try reading how insane it is.

[carmine scroll]

and those of us who just want to farm should be able to.

[cedar depot]

fair point on the 🧱 wall of text hehe

[carmine scroll]

I have been farming hours of my life away for a resource world. I DONT NEED TO

[gray scaffold]

That called detailed contructive feedback. You're response to it is pure troll.

[carmine scroll]

I am VERY well aware of how bad the RNG is, and how worse it will get with this change.

but you dont need to take up my entire monitor with a post about it and then post it in TWO channels.

that's what we call S P A M

[rugged fractal]

and honestly, I believe that too. I use resource worlds, it's my choice. But isn't usuing an exploit very much like using a resource world?

[carmine scroll]

Please Do Not Spam The Channels.

[gray scaffold]

If you say so, you just made the same wall, being kind of an ass..

[timid breach]

hey hey can we please relax a bit 🙂

[gray scaffold]

Tell that to Endalrin.

[timid breach]

one post is ok even if a long one

[gray scaffold]

I gave feedback, he decided to attack.

[carmine scroll]

it's the way you did it.

[green vine]

Wish they would have told us about the fish

[gray scaffold]

wow this guy.. Im out..

[green vine]

To kiss a fish

[carmine scroll]

they did tell us about the fish?

[green vine]

Wait it’s supposed to be a frog

[carmine scroll]

what do you mean?

[lament monolith]

I think he means in the NEWEST video

[green vine]

Totally need many types of fish for trophies

[gray scaffold]

I think Endalrin is just here cause he needs attention, not to actually help out. Not sure how he became a helper attacking detailed feedback. someone might want to review that descision.

[carmine scroll]

Bro, you're the one being rude off the bat. check yourself.

[rugged fractal]

you are being a troll

[green vine]

Back to the fish story

[gray scaffold]

Im the one being rude now?

[carmine scroll]

"maybe try reading" YES. every response you've given has been rude when I asked you not to spam.

[green vine]

Blue fish grey fish red fish two fish

[gray scaffold]

one messege isnt spam.. Your the one spamming...

[carmine scroll]

you posted it in more than one channel.

[gray scaffold]

and?

[carmine scroll]

oh boy, this guy. I just cant.

[green vine]

Hopefully the fish get great names also

[rugged fractal]

man, a fish trophy would be awesome

[green vine]

As long as it doesn’t sing

[lament monolith]

Nope we need billy bass

[green vine]

Would rather have the singing goats from sound of music than Billy bass 😜

[carmine scroll]

Anyway, I dont really consider things exploits or cheating or etc if they're just part of how the game works. and if it's a single player game and the devs left the console commands on, well who am I hurting but myself?

[rugged fractal]

I'm not even really meaning you, you provide a valued service for folks who don't have time or ability to gather for themselves, and I really respect that.

[carmine scroll]

well, I did.....

i was just saying in general though.

[green vine]

Can be a antique mall 🧐

[carmine scroll]

I guess we'll see if there's a solution in the future. I may just put the armory on pause until 1.0 drops at this point.

[slim rover]

woot off of work time to be a blob at home and play video games

[rugged fractal]

I wish there some kind of special consideration for folks like you and all you who run resource worlds.

[carmine scroll]

eh, it's just being part of the community.

i dont expect anything for it.

and the game is in early access, I may be sad about the changes but changes are to be expected.

things will be tweaked as progress is made.

i just hope they reconsider the farming chests thing or just let us make any weapon at any level.

[rugged fractal]

I hate to see you sad though 🫂

[carmine scroll]

🫂

thank you, but it's fine. I've been sadder about worse things.

[rugged fractal]

I feel ya :)

[carmine scroll]

https://tenor.com/view/impractical-jokers-sal-vulcano-sal-stare-thousand-yard-stare-gif-26856019

[rugged fractal]

https://tenor.com/view/spongebob-cookies-cookie-sponge-bob-gif-4134682

[cedar depot]

That's pretty much what we will be able to do with unique weapons... Find the enflamed sword at level 10? You can upgrade it to your level all the way to max level cap

[carmine scroll]

ya, but what about the nonuniques like misfortune mace and frost hammer?

OH GAWD I HOPE THE MACE DOESNT LOSE ITS LIFE LEECH NOOOOOOOOOO

[cedar depot]

it's a descent compromise, but misses on exactly as you mentioned: the one "I" want "I" need to get out of X chest

[cedar depot]

Seems life leech will be getting a buff and as will several weapons that don't do what they say

sorry for the spoiler then

[carmine scroll]

oh, no, not what i meant.

[cedar depot]

ah, okay, I assumed wrongly then. Some people like my friend don't even want knowledge of the changes before they play

[carmine scroll]

oh i dont care about spoilers even for new movies.

[cedar depot]

playtesting like that is basically QA that draws you into helping the devs fix things and ultimately ruins the experience as a player lol

[carmine scroll]

ya

[rugged fractal]

Crap, I finally decided to post some pictures in Screenshots and realized I can only post once every 2 hours. I had more pictures d'oh!

[carmine scroll]

and i kind of dont want to deal with the water on my frankenpotato until i have to.

[floral topaz]

I'm on my first playthough yet at 160h, and appreciate the crumbs that are dropped.

I'm not a meta player, so I rather just haphazardly f around and find good loot

[carmine scroll]

gotta bulk drop!

[cedar depot]

not to mention it will change 3x before release anyway

[rugged fractal]

NOW I know lol

[carmine scroll]

right now imk just organizing my base chests. XD and listening to some legends of avantris.

[cedar depot]

wait til you hit 300-400h and go wait? I'm only HOW far in?!?!

[rugged fractal]

I keep forgetting to look at time played

[cedar depot]

I have every single weapon out of the mountain mini hollows at least, so I am at least ready for water in that sense

[rugged fractal]

yikes 2009 hrs

[cedar depot]

it draws you in

[rugged fractal]

I'm retired, and I love to build silly shit

[cedar depot]

not retired, but should be and yeah, I have over 2000 hours in valheim and 500 in enshrouded with that view: building crap

[carmine scroll]

i found valheim a game i could NOT play solo.

[rugged fractal]

I wont even look at Valhiem time played. I once cut all the trees off a whole pretty large island because I was bored.

[mossy notch]

I didn't like Valheim as much as Enshrouded

[cedar depot]

you can play any game solo if you try hard enough. Personally, I found enshrouded harder to play solo than valheim, but that is just me

[rugged fractal]

not even close for me

[carmine scroll]

eeeeehh

well, part of it, was the bosses

i could NOT solo the dear!

[cedar depot]

both the dragons made me curse playing enshrouded solo

[cedar depot]

well, you just gotta learn to make a bow first, then deer are simple

[carmine scroll]

but i like melee! 😛

honestly I find the pikesmead boss dull and easy.

[cedar depot]

then you have to upgrade to copper so you can sneak up and stabby deer

deer are not a requirement, nor is fishing, but it helps

[carmine scroll]

the mountain dragon you just need to cheese a little bit.

oh no i meant the dear boss.

the first boss is valheim i could not beat.

[cedar depot]

no different than the valheim dragon, but less places to hide in enshrouded than valheim lol

the deer boss is.... trivial

have to block and dodge though

I can see how valheim could be hard for some. It's definitely popular though. 20k in game this second and it is now 6 years old

[floral topaz]

For a second, I read your username as "tacklebox", and all made sense!

[sullen sluice]

if no fishing in the new update I will quit the game for good

[barren hawk]

Good for you?

[carmine scroll]

there is fishing.............

they literally showed fishing in the gamescom reveal.

[sullen sluice]

good

[cedar depot]

fishing in games is best served under the influence of something lol... enshrouded, valheim, stardew valley... don't matter. They're good to do stoned

[sullen sluice]

stardew fishing is pog

[cedar depot]

that's why I made the Valheim Ulf's Fishing Guide in the theme of the stardew valley fishing guides lol

[floral topaz]

I'm lucky, I game to have fun, so any achievement doesn't reflect my gaming experience. I don't have to have 100%.

That said, to many games are going for the fishing bit these days, so I kind of get where the 100%'ers come from. All that fishing must be tedious in the long run!

I only get panicky when it's tied to resources I need, because I find fishing sooooooo boring!

[carmine scroll]

i think it's neat to have minigames like fishing in stuff like zelda, torchlight, minecraft, to take a break.

[cedar depot]

fishing is optional, always has been... people do it because quite frankly: it's relaxing!

[floral topaz]

...to some! My f'ed up brain needs black metal as ambient to calm down. Fishing to my brain is next to a coma

[barren hawk]

That's exactly how I feel too, as long as it's not tied to stuff I need then I don't care if it's there, I just find fishing in every game to be tedious and boring

[floral topaz]

I've been gaming on PC for 40 years. Only recently I found out I have autism and adhd.

It goes a loooong way to explain shit in my life!

Like hating to get the meta explained, I need to game it out! And the damn fishing, tooo slow!

[cedar depot]

us GenX and prior generations never got the luxury of ADHD, ADD, Spectrum Disorder diagnosis... we were all just told we were weird

[floral topaz]

Imagine playing CS, and midways you just gotta dit down in a circle and talk about your feelings. That's a no no. Wouldn't Work. People would get upset.

Because that's not the crowd

My brain gets some relaxation from building though! So that's something!

[barren hawk]

Same, building is incredibly relaxing to me

[floral topaz]

Yes! I was "just a bit shy" apparently

[cedar depot]

similarly, building games: Banished, Raft, Against the Storm, Cities Skylines, Valheim, Enshouded etc... just relax me

[barren hawk]

I love cities skylines, such a great game

[floral topaz]

We had a server on Rust for a long time! I was building cities eith friends. F. the villages, cities!

Couldn't even get out of the starter area of Enshrouded before I had built a small village. Do far it has 13 inhabitants! 😅

[slim rover]

speaking of building things i need build my second base and maybe some expand my first base

[mellow sage]

That'd never work. Someone would always pull out the knife... 🤣

[cedar depot]

I made a sub game out of just that: Find the babbling dude from chat that is hunkered down somewhere and won't shut up...

[near breach]

Sup everyone?

[cedar depot]

Almost friday...

[near breach]

Today was my Monday 🤮

[cedar depot]

my condolences

if it makes you feel better, I'm pushing an 18 hour work day today

[near breach]

Oooof what a trooper

[carmine scroll]

did you survive work?

[cedar depot]

pulled out of bed at 6am to fix an issue, been working on it since. Don't expect to finish for another 8 hours

[carmine scroll]

WHAT?!

[near breach]

That is siiiick

[carmine scroll]

i would die

[cedar depot]

6am - 2am shift today, expecting

life of a programmer, seriously

[carmine scroll]

i couldnt do more than 10-12

i did an 11 recently i think but that was a rare occassion.

[near breach]

I used to do 16 hr a day, 6 days a week at my last job and didn’t make as much as I do now working technically only 4 days with 8hr shifts.

[cedar depot]

compile, test, run qa, take reports, compile test, run qa... publish fix (hopefully)

[carmine scroll]

my work has been so slow, a lot of standing around doing nothing. it sucks. especially when a few jerk coworkers like to claim im lazy, like dude, im begging for work. pot calling the kettle black though.

im a rat on a sinking ship.

[cedar depot]

sounds like it. can always ask for more work from bosses

[carmine scroll]

no, i cant. cause i have a specific job I do, and even the extra stuff i can pick up is rarely available.

[cedar depot]

I'd be looking for alts

[carmine scroll]

so i just hang out in my uninsulated tin shack and wait for work most of the time.

16 hours is rough though, you guys are champions, I could never.

[agile palm]

https://tenor.com/view/hello-there-gif-5677380953331354485

[cedar depot]

sorry, work drew me away. Yeah, I can understand the boredom and the frustration. Any chance you can use that time to learn to better yourself and qualify for a better job?

[carmine scroll]

eh, not really.

im kind of, i dunno, it's complicated.

right now im just trying to keep focused on saving up for a new computer, especially once my car is paid off next year.

[cedar depot]

not judging, we all get dealt a different hand of life.

[carmine scroll]

I could probably ask for the welder position again considering the current state of the welders. a lot of the ones we have now would have been fired quickly back when i started.

but I also just, really dont want to, im content where im at, as long as work flows and people leave me alone.........

[floral topaz]

As a former sysadm, I get ya

[cedar depot]

Programmer and HCI Virtualization Sysadmin

jack of all trades, master of none

[limpid vigil]

Make an LLC and contract out. If you're confident in your skills and want some side hustle money that'll be the easiest way to do it.

[carmine scroll]

I do not know the meaning of this word... confident? what is that?

[cedar depot]

its the fallacy of believing in yourself... don't do it, you'll be disappointed. 😉

[still quartz]

The definition is when you are sure you know what your doing so you go ahead and do it, and then fail because you thought you knew what you were doing and you didn't

[floral topaz]

Windows, *nix sysadmin, linux and windows consultant, From 1st line to on site 3rd line support from NT4 up until the first private Azure stack in the country.

25 years.

I quit. I'm a barkeep now! 😅

Worked too much, and got nothing to show for it. Call that a lesson for the night =)

[winged hawk]

Good morning

[cedar depot]

Probably happier too

5 more years, will retire to working as a VAR sales engineer or similar role. I'm burnt out after doing this since 1994

[viral scarab]

Yeah, I wish money was no object so I could make my indie game with no concern about daily life, heh

[deep iris]

Evening all. Was a nice way to wrap up a workday. News on the update. How's your day been?

[trim hollow]

read the recent news, and I think nerfing regen as a way to nerf overall sustain is... questionable

the main issue is potions being instant and plentiful, with no cooldown at all
you can't feasibly die unless you're one shot if you're packing potions

[still quartz]

From what they said, they want players to focus more on the buffs obtained from gear and whatnot

Rather then it just naturally being there

[trim hollow]

eh, I still think the issue is potions having no cd, combat will still be far too easy to trivialize

but I guess it's a step in the right direction to return some tension to combat

biggest patch change I am looking forward to is enemy weapon drops finally having a rarity....

[still quartz]

I'm curious to see how the new system works out along with the changes to weapons

[trim hollow]

I was getting very sick of jusst scrounging chests for high tier weapons

also I wonder if this update will finally give us the fabled TOWER BLOCKS

the ones that the checkpoint spires are made out of... I want them.......

[cedar depot]

When I was making moonshades I was also taking 2 kids to middle school and one to elementary everyday, working a full day with a 1hr commute each way and then cooking. I somehow scrounged enough time together to work with one other person and make a full game (albeit mobile) over a 2 year period. In short you can do it.

[daring pewter]

You are so right lol. I am a boomer and was "labelled" as hyperactive and naughty 😂

[cedar depot]

indeed we were lol

[near breach]

I’d be veryyyy surprised if this update gives us those. I’d imagine those are super super endgame lol I’ve been wanting them too 😝

[trim hollow]

we only have two biomes left to get....

or maybe three

but I think we'll prolly only get one more biome after water

[near breach]

There’s room for at least one more biome on the topside of the map. Then there’s a whole option for underneath for an underground biome AND the sky islands still. Plus they have plans for more content and other things even after 1.0

[slim rover]

I would be a happy fat man if we got an unground biome

[near breach]

It would make a lot of sense lore wise to get one I feel

[still quartz]

If this game ever gets an underground biome. Then they need to give us a lantern we can clip to our belt

[slim rover]

yes

or more jewelry slots

[near breach]

Yess, or a more viable light spell. And it would be a good biome and update to give us placeable lava if the water update works out okay

[still quartz]

We do currently have non flowing lava in some areas

Or molten rock or whatever it is

Just can't scoop it up :(

[static reef]

I wish we could place Shroud-Sand, since its at least close to looking like lava

[near breach]

Yeah they may rework the lava and make it more dynamic if water works out. It’s a highly requested thing to be able to place at bases too lol

[civic zenith]

Mornin Fellow Candlesticks ☕

[leaden iron]

Water is hard to animate

[near breach]

Morning ☕️

[still quartz]

Yeahhh, that's why they've been struggling x)

[static reef]

Lava was placeable in one of the early trailers, shame that we can't now.

[still quartz]

But they've somehow done it and that's the impressive thing

[static reef]

But they've somehow almost done it*

[leaden iron]

Water looked good, too, yesterday in the trailer ^^

[still quartz]

personally I think the random water spikes are cool

[static reef]

oh I think it looks amazing, but I can't say its "done" until they release it :P

[slim rover]

morning and good night since pink floyd has made me sleepy enough to pass out

[still quartz]

I can't wait to hear my computer start screaming at me as I accidentally drain an entire lake into a ravine

[civic zenith]

sweet drrams

[near breach]

Me too omg

[static reef]

I wonder, if I place a flame altar in the sky, with no walls or blocks in it, and just place water.. will it delete itself once it reaches the edge, or pile into a perfect flame-altar based square like the minecraft fluid simulation animations?

[still quartz]

Or will it fall all the way down to the ground

[near breach]

I think it’ll disappear

[static reef]

Okay, Skyloft is potentially an option then!

[still quartz]

Or will it turn to ice

[near breach]

Oooo that’d be a great build

[static reef]

the buildings would all have to be straightened though, and no idea how to make the Bazaar cause... its a giant tent

[civic zenith]

jeah. earlyer they said water leaving the altar area will evaporate on the edge

[static reef]

now I gotta debate how badly I want to make skyloft

[civic zenith]

why debate it. youre already halfway there 😅

[static reef]

cause the real question is "Can I do it justice" and to the right scale... the Goddess Statue would be really hard to make, and would need to be made of Terrain

[civic zenith]

wont know untill you tried will you?

and even if it doesnt fully go there. it can always evolve into a different project

[static reef]

perhaps I should finish the Zelda 1 map first, then worry about new projects

[near breach]

Would be interesting to try and emulate Lakebed Temple lol 😝

[static reef]

I have been tempted to, ngl

lakebed is actually one of my favorite dungeons in zelda... mostly cause of the waterslides

[near breach]

I’d love to play around and see if it is possible to do an underwater temple of sorts. I’m sure we could

[static reef]

probably, as long as theres a way to drain the water and raise the water, and some moving parts that interact with said water like floating platforms

[cedar depot]

I want to take over that entire frozen lake area with castle in the top right of the Albaneve Summits. It doesn't allow you to build there currently.

[static reef]

I like that area too, hope we can build there soon

[cedar depot]

very picturesque to me haha

[near breach]

I’d love to place a waterfall and stream where there’s ice in Polaris Falls

[cedar depot]

feel the same about that area I just mentioned too

[near breach]

I am also so excited to see how the water interacts with the different biomes !

[cedar depot]

the real question is: can we drown dogs/cats/hophairs/goats and yaks in it?

[static reef]

I am concerned excited to see how the water interacts with all the props, especially rotated at weird angles

[cedar depot]

would love to make a moat and watch mobs see their ends in it lol

if it is anything like valheim though, they'll just swim around forever

[static reef]

I wanna make lots of things, castles, moats, waterfalls, hotsprings, beaches.. I have an entire like, "Isekai world" I like to dream of and I'll totally try making some of it in enshrouded

and I expect that all the NPCs will just sink to the bottom of the water and breathe under there forever :P

[surreal forge]

they mentioned its not like valheim - thats a static water source, and theres is voxel based physics

[cedar depot]

or that yes. I had a 1 star troll in my valheim moat for a game week. was rather annoying

[cedar depot]

yes, but that was in reference to how the water worked, not how npcs reacted in it

[static reef]

its fair to assume the NPCs won't really interact with the water, the NPCs don't interact with the shroud at all

[cedar depot]

true to an extent... we see players swimming so there's something else that needs to happen there even for npcs

it's a voxel first in gaming, so who knows. we will find out in november.

and now I am off to bed (West Coast, 10pm here). nite!

[still quartz]

Personally I hope npcs react to water like cats where if they fall in they react violently and jump 10 into the air onto solid land

[static reef]

goodnight

what a fun idea, NPCs float with no resistance, and just bob up and down infinitely, the higher up you place them, the deeper they sink, the faster they float to the top and the higher up they go

[near breach]

They did mention that the water can kill certain enemies lol and that a dev has utilized the water to do so before

[static reef]

I wish/hope we could place water outside of our bases, it'd be fun to water-bucket-clutch... or destroy the stupid "shroud fire" things with water

[near breach]

It would be fun actually if they added new animations to the NPCs and one of them is to swim

[static reef]

true, I do wonder if the pets and NPCs will swim at all, I assume some will like the goats

I am excited for whichever update gives us the Bard assistant ||Chester Loft|| and the music box concept

[slim rover]

if it was possible I would build a canal system that would span the map

[near breach]

That was very specific .. is that like a confirmed NPC ?

[static reef]

its not confirmed but if you follow the lore on that NPC, they survived the longest and seem insanely likely to be revivable, since they don't touch the shroud

and they were ||part of the Honeydews.|| so bard assistant would be perfect for them

[near breach]

Oh that sounds very viable

[static reef]

he's one of my favorite lore-NPCs

[near breach]

The bard and the collector need assistants

[static reef]

I am unsure what the requirements are for being a "collector assistant"

[subtle prawn]

Being stuck in the Hollow Halls maybe?

[static reef]

cause we can't revive the "Hollow" like Darius or Daniel the damned. and the Collector... isn't a hollow that we know of? he's something else

I believe the 3 requirements are:
Can't touch shroud while alive
Can't drink Elixir
Can't be a Hollow

[still quartz]

Doggo :3

[subtle prawn]

Don't we revive Mei from the shroud?

[near breach]

Maybe just another creeper like Alden who did work like him lol

[still quartz]

Fetch me their bones

[static reef]

"while alive" she died to assassination via flint arrow. not shroud, her corpse supposedly withered before the shroud took over

[subtle prawn]

That would make sense then

[static reef]

I believe there was a love interest in one of the lore notes that had interest in hollow... I think the lore note is in the flame shrine behind the carpenters vault? but perhaps I read it wrong, it wasn't one of the lore notes that I paid a lot of attention to

[near breach]

That would be cute

[static reef]

theres also Alden's brother who supposedly went to the hollow hall in the nomad highlands?

...I really like the lore of this game

[misty abyss]

mornin

[static reef]

good morning

[quiet geyser]

Any servers live right now I wanna adventure with others

[civic zenith]

#1195389948069675009
or this seperate server here: #rules message

[lament sand]

Holy balls, we finally got an actual release date for the update. I'm psyched! 😄

[still quartz]

They should jokingly put out a message on the 9th saying they'll delay it further and then we can see the server descend into chaos

[near breach]

Yep! And it’s not far out!

[tribal siren]

I wonder why they didn't add 2h swords to the game. There are both 1h and 2h axes/maces, but only 1h swords...

[near breach]

Idk but they’re going to on Nov 10th

[tribal siren]

Wait really? Was that confirmed?

[twilit comet]

we dont have patchnotes yet, right?
wondering how mages will get fixed

[near breach]

Yes. 2H greatswords are in fact coming in the next update

[languid acorn]

they will just add a low-level fireball spell

[twilit comet]

thats... good

[languid acorn]

so from lvl 1 you will be able to actually kill mobs as a mage

[near breach]

And a craftable staff

[languid acorn]

but that's about it from what I understood

[tame seal]

They showed 2H swords in the August trailer, so yes, it's confirmed.

[tribal siren]

idk HOW i missed that

[static reef]

thats actually in the game already, lol

[tribal siren]

I'm a promiscuous little fellow for 2h swords

[near breach]

Is it??

[twilit comet]

well, that solves one of the worst issues mage has tbh
no aoe early on sucks balls and i swear the hollow halls in the springlands are hell on equal level

[near breach]

For some reason I thought it was just the wand and you have to wait for the alchemist to craft the staff

[static reef]

let me double check

[tame seal]

There is an early staff, but not any actual spells unless you found them in the wild.

[near breach]

Hmm so we were able to craft the staff from our basic build menu before? Man I missed that

[static reef]

1 bone, 2 resin, player craftable staff at level 1... and its seperate from the staff the alchemist makes

[twilit comet]

yeah, there is an early staff but you dont have wands or spells so you auto-suck
but hey, bright side, sword with 3 strength outperforms your spells until highlands anyway

in full mage setup, mind you

[languid acorn]

your spells aren't melee though

[twilit comet]

enemies will be in melee soon enough anyway

[near breach]

It is nice to know that they’re adding a basic firebolt spell

[twilit comet]

guaranteed fire dmg early is a godsend cuz ice sucks

[static reef]

now heres hoping we get a "FireBeam" spell so we don't need to use the shroud beam for damage...

[still quartz]

I love using spells in close combat, it's quite satisfying getting the timing right and blowing things up just as they are about to stab you

Congrats you got close to me, here hold this

[twilit comet]

gimme a fire meteor
i want to cast apocalypse from the sky with extreme prejudice

[static reef]

since they added the shroud-penalties... I want the same spells without shroud element now

[opaque oar]

hello guys, good morning from germany :)

[twilit comet]

morning, from also germany

[static reef]

good morning, I should go to bed myself, lol

[twilit comet]

yank? ouch

[silver crow]

Hello from The Netherlands

[vital topaz]

Good morning peeps, jeeps and sheeps

[near breach]

Hello from… -whispers- Florida

[quasi saffron]

Hello from greymany

[dense abyss]

Hello from wales

[civic zenith]

mornin. is it possible to send u a dm?

[vital topaz]

Sure 👍

[quasi saffron]

He talking behind our backs

[worn cloud]

https://tenor.com/view/cheers-gif-3864597689004702323

November 10th!

[humble plover]

With the new update, will the game be on sale then?

[quasi saffron]

They can't tell, Steam rule

But mostly updates had a sale.

[worn cloud]

It's holiday season so tons of chances during november and December for the game to be on sale. So if you don't see it on November 10th, you will definitely see it not too long after that 💪 Stay looking!

[sterile gull]

Good morning

send from the dev kitchen, cooking the update

[fathom heron]

good morning!

perfect moment to get out in Enshrouded, rain outside, warm coffee on the desk 😎

[quasi saffron]

Y'all mean I wanna jump in too

[harsh forum]

Ayooo

Still on slowmode, the chat has been so spicy lately 😭😭

[quasi saffron]

Better like that, people spam less

[harsh forum]

Yup

I like watching the fire from the sidelines tho..... 😈😈

[harsh forum]

850 says waddup

[near breach]

Just way more traction since the update announcement

We are spicy though for sure

[fathom heron]

hi from Poland 👋

[harsh forum]

That update video was a treat. Way more info that I expected

[near breach]

All these cool places people saying hello from 😭

[fathom heron]

that's true

[harsh forum]

Fun fact there's so many 850 areas codes in my area of FL that they started giving people 448 and I got that when I got a new number recently. I was so mad, I had 850 as my clan tag on Xbox 360 for yeearrssss and they ripped it from me 😭😭

[vital topaz]

Only seems cool because you are not from there. To us florida sounds cool(ish)

[harsh forum]

This is most generic answer but it just depends where in Florida

[near breach]

Yeah I’m a 904 so notttt that cool lol

[harsh forum]

Within an hour and a half of driving I can be in the absolute most bottom of the barrel neighborhood and then be in a place where the tax bracket is calling you slurs from the skies

[near breach]

That’s actually the entirety of Florida lol 😝

[harsh forum]

So true 😭😭

[near breach]

Even the “middle class” is screaming slurs lol

[vital topaz]

But it's the same in germany - i just happen to know how boring it is, because i come from here

[harsh forum]

In my neighborhood we have, "street workers" if you will, that have notorious nick names. One is named flipper, she is missing both arms. But then I can drive 30 mins and be on super nice beaches where retired doctors and vets live in their condos

[near breach]

Yeah you’re right though Ao. When you’re born and raised in an area, you get bored and complacent with the area

[near breach]

Flipper with no arms is craaaaaazy 🤣🤣🤣

[harsh forum]

Dude I've seen her around since I was in middle school

I've seen her like 3 times this week

[near breach]

She’s flippin that dough 💰

[harsh forum]

Not personally. I've seen her walking. Just to clarify 😂😂

[twilit comet]

Bugs Bunny had the right idea about Florida. And these days Canada and Mexico often apply it to the entirety of the continental US.

[vital topaz]

Yes... Sure!

[harsh forum]

Bro her numbers not in my phone, I know you were assuming that. Idk why you'd think about maybe asking me that. It's not in my phone

[near breach]

Gotta hand it to her, she knows how to hustle

[vital topaz]

Just messing with you

[harsh forum]

🤣🤣❤️❤️❤️

[harsh forum]

She really knows how to flip a bag!!

[near breach]

The panic is telling (; lol jk

[harsh forum]

She doesn't know where I live. Why would you assume that? I said I don't see her 3x a week Monday, Wed, and Fri. What's wrong with you guys? I said I don't know her rates

JK but no yeah flipper is a real thing here

[near breach]

hmmmm very sus… very sus lol

[harsh forum]

What are the folk lore things called like El chupacabra

[near breach]

That’s a great name

[near breach]

Cryptid

[harsh forum]

Cryptids?? I think that's what

Yes. Flipper is a Pensacola Cryptid

[near breach]

They call me Bigfoot on the streets

[vital topaz]

The pensacola cryptid sounds like something Sam and Dean would hunt

https://tenor.com/view/sandwich-dean-winchester-eating-supernatural-gif-14967829789879466011

[harsh forum]

The heroes Pensacola need

[near breach]

Jacksonville needs them for all kinds of supernatural creatures lol

[harsh forum]

She has +100 resistance to any physical attacks because you'll catch poison debuff if you touch her

[near breach]

Toxic ! You gotta find the blooming moss clumps to cure it

[harsh forum]

Oh blooming moss sounds like a great moniker for something she probably has already

[twilit comet]

its only poison, purple moss will do

[near breach]

Yeah I never worry about poison… but toxic… toxic is pure panic mode lol

And im referring to the DS1 Toxic lol

[twilit comet]

the blowdarters down there are the worst

[near breach]

Blighttown… ugh. 😩

[twilit comet]

unfortunately for them i got good at free aiming soul speers...

[near breach]

Everything down there is awful. Even the little spicy wiener dogs

[twilit comet]

only the leeches are cool

[near breach]

I remember how good I felt when I managed to get through that level and get all the loot in the area

All to have an easy boss Quelaag lol

[twilit comet]

shards, large shards and green shards from one loot table!

well, i use the key to skip the upper half
which means 500% less cancer but also no power within

[near breach]

Yeah true. I feel like one has to experience Blighttown at least once lol

And then… Silver knight archers at Anor Londo

And then… trying your damndest to get the moonlight greatsword from Seath lol

[twilit comet]

the double archer is either hell (first time) or easy (after you got gud)

the hard part is not frying the lizard before the tail is off but priscilla is worse

[harsh forum]

I've tried, but never completed, a lot of souls game. And DS1 hands down was the most unforgiving and HATEFUL one of them all

The game HATED me

[near breach]

It’s jank makes it harder for sure

[twilit comet]

horse f. valley is worse than the entirety of DS1

cuz DS2 outjanks DS1

[near breach]

Yeah I haven’t laid a single hand on DS2

One day I will just to say I did

[harsh forum]

DS3 probably is the one I had most fun in amongst all the soul type games I've played because I got the farthest in it and had the most hours. I dropped it right before you get to that big castle city place I don't remember the name tho

[twilit comet]

ER = DS3 > DS 1 > DS 2

lothric castle? thats kinda endgame

[near breach]

DS3 is very playable. And to me, more forgiving

[twilit comet]

or early game if you are skilled enough

[near breach]

My favorite boss is in that game

[twilit comet]

play a pure faith build in DS3 and say that again

[near breach]

The dancer of boreal valley

[near breach]

F faith in all games lmao

[twilit comet]

faith is strong in DS2 and ER

[near breach]

Sorcery in ER is where it’s at

[twilit comet]

DS3 is a pyromancers wet dream

[near breach]

Knight and pyro for DS3

[twilit comet]

sorcery in ER is just so nice looking
i think 70% of my playtroughs are a form of carian knight

[harsh forum]

Maybe? I remember it wasn't too far after I beat the Old Demon King

[twilit comet]

aaaaah, boreal valley

[harsh forum]

Yessssss

[near breach]

The sorcery in Elden Ring is GORGEOUS. I just love the look of all the carian sets and mages sets, the staves, the magic is all unique. I love the Academy.

[twilit comet]

such a beautiful place
also drops fire witch armour which is chefs kiss

[harsh forum]

I specifically remember the visual when you see it off in the distance for the first time. It was definitely beautiful looking

[twilit comet]

yeah, FS knows how to make key visuals which barely age

[near breach]

Ohhh yeah Irithyl is beautiful

[harsh forum]

Especially after being in all those underground catacomb type areas that youre in before you see it

[twilit comet]

like, anor londo in DS1
its like 15 years old and looks better than many modern games at first glance

[near breach]

Fromsoft is good at reveals of areas like that.

Stormveil blew my mind when first playing ER

[harsh forum]

Yeah and their level design is phenomenal. I remember being at awe in how good they are at tying levels together when I was first getting into them

[twilit comet]

right after you saw the erdtree at night in the distance

which was just jaw on floor pretty

[near breach]

The capital and also the brace of the haligtree all beautiful

[harsh forum]

For some reason I always drop Elden Ring not long after I beat godrick. I've redone save files I think 3 times now and always stopped playing around the same time

[near breach]

Man.. it’s so worth to get through.

[twilit comet]

ER basically has no "bad" area looks wise
Caelid looks like the hell it is

worst part for a caster is doing Renalla blind tbh
80% magic resistance be like

[near breach]

That’s because it’s a sick joke from Miyazaki to put that area next to the starting area lmao it’s literally meant to be Hell 🤣🤣

[harsh forum]

Y'all heard about the elden ring switch 2 delay. I don't have a S2 yet so it doesn't matter to me 🤣 but it was gaming news today

[near breach]

Yeah that was brutal… but summoning a banished knight or Kaiden merc really helps.

[harsh forum]

I don't doubt it can run perfectly fine on a switch 2 so im sure it'll just be for some polish

[near breach]

The switch 2 is actually really beefy from what I heard

[twilit comet]

shirt up to the elbows, carian knight sword in one hand, shield in the other

[harsh forum]

Another thing Fromm is surprisingly good at but also confusingly a little inconsistent with us optimization. Like their games run on so much hardware, you don't need a beast rig to play Elden Ring with good visuals and frame rate. But there's just some technical bugs sometimes

[twilit comet]

i stopped caring about nintendo, only games i used to play were pokemon and zelda
pokemon is a dumpsterfire now and zelda alone isnt worth a console

[near breach]

Bloodborne is another big fav of mine. I loveeee the aesthetics

[harsh forum]

Yeah well Sony hates bloodborne fans and won't touch it again so

[twilit comet]

Bloodborne is in IP hell

[near breach]

Yeah it’s a shame.

[harsh forum]

I love sony. I grew up on them. But they have a terrible history of teasing the playerbase with their hits that they'll never touch again

[near breach]

And as another sadistic joke, the duskbloods will be a switch exclusive lmao

[harsh forum]

If it were up to Fromm and Miyazaki bloodborne 2 or remastered would've happened already

[twilit comet]

well, i aint touching the switch 2 with a 10-foot pole

[near breach]

Yeah I’m not either. There’s not enough games for it that would entice me to get one

Like you said, Zelda is basically the only one I like from Nintendo

And they refuse to remaster some of the oldies that I loved so.. idk

[harsh forum]

I'm a shill so I would touch it with my 3 inch fingers

[twilit comet]

i dont want a remake of BW/BW2 cuz they will butcher it so hard
Gamefreak isnt capable of making good games anymore

and if I want to flex my competitive urge I can play Showdown

[harsh forum]

I however would not touch pokemon with my worst enemies corpse

I don't even care what they do with gen 10. I will not pay game freak

[twilit comet]

thing is, the pokemon battlesystem is absurdly good on a strategic level
and now ZA removed it lmao

[harsh forum]

You don't want starmie with legs bro?

[twilit comet]

i dont even care about the fugly megas
they killed the one thing that was consistently good: the battle system

meganite not going back to the dragonair design is also a crime but hey

[harsh forum]

I think the last pokemon with a good art direction was let's go

I honestly don't really care for the third person open world stuff in Pokemon

[twilit comet]

For the record: my favourites are in no specific order
Kyogre, Suicune, Articuno, both Nintetales
I wonder what they share in common...

third person open world is fine if done well
but have you seen the art direction in SV/ZA?
4k 60 fps makes it look worse, not better

There is more detail in one 2x2 flower grass block in enshrouded than a screen filling building in those games

[harsh forum]

Yeah I saw someone throw up a comparisons of ZA and sonic adventures on GameCube and sonic adventures honestly looked better 😭😭

Buildings had 3d windows in Sonic Adventures

And Nintendo and the fans excuse is always "oh but there's hundreds of pokemon assets in the game!!!" Like okay? Are all hundred of them on screen at once??? That's what they make it seem like they have to render

[twilit comet]

actually, it may be the case that lumiose city is always rendered in full, which is why every building looks like LOD

[harsh forum]

I understand hardware limitations on switch 1 but Nintendo made BoTW and ToTK run mostly fine on switch 1. I say mostly because there was some frame rate hiccups here and there but my experience on both on switch was completely enjoyable

[twilit comet]

man, Xenoblade 2 and 3 make pokemon look like a gamecube game

[harsh forum]

Yeah it's one giant asset

[twilit comet]

ok, which clown did that? id get fired for far less of a f-up

[harsh forum]

It's so odd because Nintendo has been optimization kings for years. They have voodoo black magic in their optimization department. But they let gamefreak consistently flop super hard with it

[twilit comet]

the optemization department is called monolith, the makers of Xenoblade
they have helped with other games in the past

[harsh forum]

That's crazy. I know they helped with BoTW for the open world aspect. Xenoblade looks great and runs great on switch right? I've never played them but I know for certain in Xenoblade the world is not built with paper and crayons

[twilit comet]

Xenoblade looks beautiful and the performance is adequate
combat in 2 can get laggy cuz the entire screen is exploding

[harsh forum]

Paper and crayons is also game freaks daily lunch menu btw

With napkins made of $100 bills

[twilit comet]

tbf, the highlight of XB 2 is the welsh catgirl flaming someone

[harsh forum]

It sucks cause it's one of those cases where Pokemon is almost too big to fail and I hate saying that but it's so much more than just the games

Isn't it the second highest grossing IP's in the world behind hello kitty? Because of the toys and card packs

[twilit comet]

it beats hello kitty

but for reference: pokemon games sell like GTA games and have like 5%-15% of the budget

[harsh forum]

Yup just checked. Pokemon is the highest grossing media franchise of all time 😭😭

[twilit comet]

granted, you dont want me to direct a pokemon game
id probably be confidently in front of a camera telling people that whoever gets a charizard within a week of the release gets their copy personally signed by me at their home
because id make a botw like map with subnautica mapping

[harsh forum]

And wildly smaller turnover rate too. If the trend keeps up we'll be looking at a GTA game every 10-15 years. Whereas we get multiple pokemon releases a year

[twilit comet]

we get one pokemon release per 2 years roughly
unfortunately said release sucks

Rockstar also has like 5x the staff of GF

[harsh forum]

But does that count spin offs too? Mainline yeah but don't they sprinkle in other games

[twilit comet]

including major spin offs produced by GF

[limpid valve]

hey people i want to play enshrouded, also i seen that a water update will come with swimming and all that stuff, now i have BIG TIME Thallassophobia (also i seem hella dyslexic cause i can't spell that right) will there be under water fighting or just exploration?

[harsh forum]

Ah. So still 5+ mainline pokemon games between the average GTA release 😭😭😭

[twilit comet]

im an elder scrolls fan, ask me how TES6 is going

[harsh forum]

No underwater fighting on launch of the update

However idk if we'll be getting deep oceans like you're thinking. Players will probably have to make those ourselves with terraforming

[harsh forum]

Todd doesn't even know

[twilit comet]

im already happy i get to make a pond in my base

[limpid valve]

alright thanks!

[twilit comet]

man, Bethesda crashed almost as hard as GF

[harsh forum]

Don't worry bro you can buy New Vegas and FO4 again 😎😎😎

[twilit comet]

screw Fallout, im a TES fan, not a FO fan

[harsh forum]

I'd say I really want a true New Vegas remaster but Virtuous flopped the technical aspect of Oblivion remastered. But that's also a side effect of the industry forcing UE5 before it's truly ready