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Sleep well!
I am voting for Toast.
He occassionally feeds me.
did you just promote me? xD
Hello. I would like information on when the PS5 version is planned?
After 1.0 afaik.
Hello Frog!
Gratz on the Big Win from the "Bergstraße" (south of Frankfurt) 😄
🥳 Congratulations to Keen for the Win! @pliant quarry well deserved! 
Congrats to the team at KEEN! Amazing job guys can’t wait to see what your studio does in the future
Congrats to the dev team, well deserved awards❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️
Honestly tho its an amazing game and we dont get enough of them like enshrouded these days
the world is amazing the building is so fun and you get so much freedom just aa 10/10 game imo
Congrats to Keen Team!

Who did Ping. 
Also congrats again. 
@devs. what rewards will we find in a patch because of the prices you won ?
Our prize is the devs hopefully get paid more money and we keep getting more games lol
👆
And stuff in future patches.
Just let them celebrate before asking
Buuut... Yes.
I am Keen to see(n) what they've got in store next too.
I hope those awards are a motivation
I can't believe I updated your title on confluence just yesterday and now you're outranking me
congratulations
thank you, fast career
Forbes 30 under 30

Wait, did I miss something?
Do I now need to call Frog "Miss Frog"?
I feel like I missed something too
At least I'm not lost in the Shroud alone
We're all lost together.
How poetic.
How do I get out of here, real quick.
we're all lost down here
look for hills!
if I'm lost in the shroud I just try and glitch my way up the walls
Can someone tell me if Cavern Curiosites is broken? I dig down to the gold chest, pick it open, loot it, but the quest does not finish.
thanks
Try going back and opening the chest but not looting. Then go back and loot. Sometimes this completes the quest.
@frank lake ok, thank you
I just wanna say I've been playing this off/on since March and I'm so happy y'all are doing well with the game
Thanks! We're super happy to see it doing so well, too. We've already been blown away with how successful our early access has been so far, we have a lot more planned for the game :)
Congratulations Keen Team! You deserve it! One of the best games ever!
I wish for a quiver item slot and quiver like items x_x like a magic book to store spells
Good morning peoples. I hope everyone is having a good day. 🙂
heya
a quiver would be so nice, half my inventory is filled with different types of arrows
Yeah but I feel like everyone has that issue. Mages carry spells, archers carry arrows, melee carries spare weapons, etc
I like the music cues a lot, like, I'm digging an underground base, but I know what time it is based on the little song that plays
and also the OH NO music
is there a way to build a base on a mountain top without dying of frost?
I built a small enclosed room with fireplaces, and still dying of hypothermia
Flame level 8 will let you
anyone else have this issue? hailcaster set disappeared, replaced by the thaumaturge set in its place
i fixed it by picking up the items again but now theyre switched in category lol
Best German game? That's a huge achievement, congrats to the team!
To win against the whole country!
Yep, the bug came up at least twice now
In chat
Don't have long but wanted to ask a quick question for when I get home.
Is there a more efficient way to clean out a mountain side to build a castle inside of?
I've just been placing 4x4 wood blocks than deleting them, but it's very time consuming
There is. Use the hammer and switch to landscape mode. You can right click with any terrain shape to remove terrain.
🚰 the*** water element*** update, will be only for the game scenary (watefalls / lakes) -OR- will we be able to fill a space with water such in construction (roman baths / swimming pool) ???
It only goes up to a 2x2 block though, or a larger curved ramp
It's probably still faster compared to placing blocks first, then removing, since you can go ham deleting
Fair enough! I'll give it a try
Hey, I can come and clean off a mountain if you want, I love doing that 👀
The block is how I hollow out basically everything, it's still time consuming but much faster than any other method.
Thank you for your opinion
I use the flat 2x2 myself to remove terrain
I'm just a bit OCD when building so when the carve out starts looking all janky it vexes me. 🤣
Also the kinda scraggly terrain prebuilt second to the left is lowkey goated for terraforming
Especially mountains and caverns
I've done a lot of manmade caverns since update 4 and that block is MVP
You can't really do rounded blocks in this, everything is going to be snappped to that same grid, but you can get a rounded aesthetic for some builds, I've seem some very good looking towers from builders, but it definitely takes work
I'll do some looking into ways to utilize the 1x1 blocks I suppose.
I want to do 4 large round columns on the entry into this mountainside castle like 40 blocks high
Thank you all again and have a great day!!
Good Morning Enshrouders
heya
How goes?
Wednesday is my one day working in the office, so no day gaming enshrouded for me :sadkitty:
It's a good thing Enshrouded does not have legs
Why is that?
It could end up walking out of your computer...
lol
the tupac shakur memorial flower square
I gotta get the masonry tools so I can make that thing fancy af
wait, guys, where do you get hardwood? specific kind of tree?
word up, thank you
question. Just coming back to play and see these 2 icons on the server select screen. What do they mean?
If you're referring to the blue feather/flame icon, that's showing the difficulty settings for the server. Feather is custom, flame icon is default iirc
ahh ok thank you
is there a way to see the server settings?
to see what they customized?
I'm not sure if you can see settings outside of the editing menu for them actually, I've never needed to look myself.
does marianne reed do anything? Also how do you get the farmer to cook for you?
she hangs out, and gives you a quest or two, iirc. to make the farmer's food, you need to make a campfire, but not the regular ones, you need a pot, the same way you need like, the sawblades or the crucible
I think the farmer'll give you the quest to get her tools
The farmer(s) act as crafters. They'll have food once you unlock the recipes. Otherwise, there's two(ish) crafting stations the main farmer will unlock that Auto cooks certain items like meat.
hey thats aweosme thank you so much
I'm sad. Feels like I need a break from Enshrouded, even though I want to keep playing it. When I go in game, I look around the Mountain lodge base if it needs anything more, and then go to Revelwood base which at I'm somehow upset about. I loved the Mountains update tho. 😔
Is there a chat/channel for where we can offer suggestions to the Devs?
What is Feature Upvote?
- It is a site where players can make suggestions for the game and upvote other suggestions for a chance to get them implemented.
- Please search for your suggestion before submitting to avoid duplicates.
Suggestions may be open/closed at any time to review backlogs.
- Upvote suggestions you like to increase their chances of being implemented.
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@tawdry cedar ^^
Congratulations devs for your rewards.
OR, hear me out, EXPANSIONS (dlcs)
Hey all I need some help!
I'd pay for this game again in an instant
same
I bought the game and got in 5 hours of play time (two hours too many for a steam refund) and the game is permanently stuck on pre-processing screen.
Has anyone else experienced this? Is there a fix? I’ve already tried to uninstall and reinstall.
I’ve written the team email listed on steam for play issues but I’m at a loss.
uh, sometimes when I used to alt-tab during preprocessing it glitched the preprocessing
made the game stutter alot
and take longer to finish the preprocessing
I did do that. I had to minimize the game but I exited out during a long pre process and it won’t ever start now.
yeah, I recommend doing a steam verify files cause I heard that resets preprocessing, not sure tho, then stay through the preprocess screen completely without alt-tab at least the first time
is your driver on the latest version? I think I got a similar problem quite a while back and updating the driver fixed it
Yes I made sure absolutely everything was updated today
I’ll try this then I assume I’ll have to try and start a new character maybe I corrupted the data or something
in case my suggestion doesn't do anything, try #i-need-help , #common-issues and #troubleshooting
no, your savefile is supposed to be fine
shaders are a separate thing
which is what is done at preprocessing mostly
Would my display have anything to do with preprocessing length? I have my pc hooked up to a 55”
Well, it IS a graphical loading phase, but I can't answer that
but I'd say to avoid using unrecommended screen resolutions for your desktop/any games you play
ioe: my screen native resolution is 1368x768, so it shows that as the recommended one, if I use a bigger one, it causes some games to have a bit of lag
I’ll try these things, verify files, make sure screen display is set to reccomended, and then see if it helps. If not I’ll try a new character creation ugh 😩
where does one aquire tools for smithing
be more specific
i need smithing tools to make an iron pick
It should be a quest in your journal if you're at that point. If not, you may need other quests/more levels
Some quests wont pop up until you're at the prerequsite level
I think some also have prerequisite quests to pop up as well, so if you skip quests you might not get recipes that you want
all my time spent in the wastes underleveled
|| I believe that are inside the volcano - I have my base on the top, dived into the center, and found them by coincidence, no quest required||
i remember in EA they were in a high level shroud area
Sad. No IT jobs available at Keen
I've also been sadly looking every couple weeks but that's cause I'm losing my job and depressed
:sadkitty:
I'm still employed atm, but slowly looking, things aren't looking too good for us atm
I wanna get out of IT entirely but it's even harder to get a writing position
and I doubt getting rid of our CEO is a good sign either
We don't usually have a ton of listings at any given time, we're usually just slowly expanding the team one person at a time. The games industry in general is pretty rough right now after all the layoffs, though, even experienced devs and CMs I know are struggling to find interviews
Tech in general is not in a good place atm
I put in my application, pls respond
since when are you a graphics programmer 
Honestly I don't actually know what the qualifications would be for that position I don't do the hiring lol
I also applied for the HR manager job
since when are you a HR manager 
FYI, typo?
I did HR when I was in the military
uuhhhhhhh it's just the german spelling... yes
yeah, I have no graphics skils, nor am I exactly a developer - and everyone seems to think they don't need Systems Engineers... although having seen the kind of infrastructure that leads to, I beg to differ 👀
im tellin phaze
I'd fix it but I honestly don't know who made our website or where the admin portal is lol, maybe I'll ask around
working at keen seems like a good opporunity
yeah but then you'd have to be co-workers with cub and he bites
and he's french 🤢
Nope.
🤣
"we'll just write a python script that deploys a hosts file to 100 different servers. It's fine that we have mysql1, mysql-2, mysql-03, and mysql04.
"Oh, DNS? Yeah, we've seen that before, for sure. We just named all of servers like server.01.production.01.mysql.com and server.01.production.01.redis.com - yeah, we've used the internet before, that's how other companies use DNS, they have .coms"
oof
I know somebody has it because they keep updating the job listings it's just unrelated to anything my team does
Usually we're the defacto grammer checkers though.
updates resume: spell check wizard
also, how often you are guys and "Keen Software House" confused?
Enough that we reached out to each other and had a good laugh about it lol
How often are you guys confused with Skyrim
I've tried to do that AMD, but they just ignore me
Less so these days, happened a lot around launch though
Would have been fun to setup a friendly rivalry, blue vs. red sort of thing
not enough
don't fridges just run normal OS? I guess you could probably get it to work if you shoved a gpu in it
I want this to be meeeee 😭
store it in the freezer for free cooler
exactly
It really isn't. My husband is a full-stack developer who has been out of work for over 6 months now. It's a mess out there.
:sadkitty:🫂
Between "AI" and the economic and political state of the world other factors... everyone is in a holding pattern.
That and large companies like Microsoft, google et.al. hired a ton of people during the lockdown for talent, and has since laid off a great many people, the market is flooded.
On a happy note, though - he's using this time to get healthier. Working out and eating better.
Yep I currently work for Google, through two layoffs even which was miserable. Overhiring during Covid was such a mistake, there is absolutely no respect for upper management from the actual workers here anymore.
I mean I understand why they did it. There was a huge pool of untapped talent out there. But it's kinda like buying 18 racehorses and shooting the 17 that don't win.
This isn't how it works?
There's no respect for upper management anywhere anymore. That's the new workforce, raised to believe the world owes them everything.
Incorrect
Heh. A study of workers showed that GenZ thinks they need an average salary of $635k a year to be financially successful.
Corporations are failing their employees
I'm old, and have a spectacular work ethic instilled by my dad... and I can tell you that when a company shows no loyalty or respect for it's workers, soon the workers lose that for the employers as well.
Oh companies are failing their workers. I never said they weren't.
That doesn't mean there isn't entitlement from the bottom up, either.
The first Google layoffs were literally randomized. My DC was actively hiring when we lost people. We lost the only person in charge of an NPI project that they had to then rehire later. There was no logic behind the decision besides "how do we make stock go up fast."
That last line is the sum total of everything wrong with our economic system.
"Numbers go up, just not our employees numbers."
Don't believe everything you read there either. There are plenty of "studies" out there that are essentially rigged polls to make it seem like the problems are with the working class.
And while I don't necessarily agree with everything that this younger generation has got in their mind, they do not have a quarter of the opportunities that I did, and are starting out in much higher debt, with a much higher inflation, and with less benefits and comparable pay.
Asking for a 600k salary and asking for a 1$ raise are at this moment in time functionally identical. Both are asking for too much.
I am thoroughly convinced that, aside from very specific career paths, college is an utter waste of money in terms of trying to get a well paying job.
100%
And yet you will continue to see "Bachelors in CS and 15 years experience" on jobs that are for programming in a language that is at most a year or two old.
My sister has a masters degree and is making less money as a therapist than I am with no degree and a Google job. College itself isn't the problem but the cost and wages you get from jobs that require a degree certainly are.
Oh I know. I laughed when I saw that visit about the guy who wrote that one language 5 years prior looking at a job description wanting 10 years experience in that language.
Don't remember which language it was at this point... Some web thing.
I have my BS in CIS, finally getting close to paying off my degree after 11 years and thankfully only because I got a good job because of what I learned on my first crappy job after getting my degree.
I thought about getting a Master's but... It's just not worth the investment in time or money.
And while I make 6 figures now, in the area I live in with interest rates as they are, owning a home is still a pipe dream.
the majority of the people laid off in tech weren't software developers though
Yeah... we just laid off 16,000 people
I wish I made that much
right? It's so tough :sadkitty:
Where I live, that's not to great anymore, unfortunately.
Yeah, my husband loves telling people that story xD
around 5 times what I make 🥺
It was some framework, I forget which one
Rough... you have my sympathies.
wtf is this chat
I already have one, thanks.
Yeah, my husband made 6 figures and we could barely afford our condo... in fact several years after buying it - we couldn't, and had to get assistance
Let us wallow in our own self-pity for a little bit longer. We need to get it out to feel better.
its from this video
I can only stave off the miasma of fear and depression by building pretty little houses for so long.
I feel like that may have been a bit too dark. 🤣
🫂
Mood, as the kids say
Oh. My age is showing
any sci fi games similar to Enshrouded?
No worries. We all get there.
wtf is... Skibidi?
Don't ask...
Idk, let’s just quietly walk away
Similar in what way?
skibidi rizzmas or something idk don't even ask me
in every way?
Nothing extremely close, no. There are plenty of sci-fi survival-craft style games, but Enshrouded is quite exceptional in how they have done their building.
I mean... you won't find one that's in every way, considering that the engine Keen uses was made by them and Enshrouded is the only game made in that engine.
modded minecraft, if you want some... mind bending story stuff the remnant games haveguns... but no there's not a sci fi enshrouded
It’s better than other building games. Snapping items alone is amazing. I hate the 500 Fallout76 type building systems where the walls snap, if you are lucky, shed everything else you need the patience of a saint to align. Worst building system ever IMO
😭
Remnant is NOTHING like Enshrouded....
You can check out Empyrion. It's a bit jenky, and certainly not as polished as Enshrouded... and probably forever stuck in a state that will be like Early Access... but you can build spaceships any way you want, with building blocks, and fly them.
mushrooms everywhere... trees... everywhere
it's kind of...
None of which you can harvest and build with, no deformable terrain...
well yes ok
but i was trying to broaden horizon beyond deform terrain and survival
wait what about space engineer
7 days to die is nice in some ways
I've played Space Engineer. It's fun, but it's much more sandboxy.
Technically that's more "horror" than Sci-fi - though not even really scary.
hardspace shipbreaker has you deforming ship pieces
hopefuly For the Stars will be the game I'm looking for
That game twisted my brain up, wrung it out and left the contents of it laying on the floor next to the cat box.
Love that game, but only in free play. Career mode annoys the heck out of me.
what about subnautica?
Beautiful game.
It is a beautiful game.
OH what's that weird 3 way genre game?
I have Subnautica on my Playstation.
Subnautica is perfect in every way - except replay value.
Free with PS+.
Still a better building system than Fallout 76 and kin
I hear they are coming out with Subnautica 2 - so there might be a few more offers for it being free to get people hooked.
I'm wanting to see more about that HZD/MonHun IP theft game... >.>
Light of Motiram... that's it.
i'm curious about atomfall
I had high hopes for Once Human, but unfortunately it seems to be just another gatcha game.
I tried Once Human... the gameplay feels too dang stiff.
life is a gatcha game if you think about it
The building is too stiff.
All of it is too stiff.
rigid.
oh no LOM has physics building...
Yes, it does.
It's like Ark but without all the ways to glitch it into being awesome.
I can't stand ARK.
oh no
I loved ark for thousands of hours, but then the people ruined it for me.
have you heard about the award winning survival rpg, Enshrouded?
would palia be a sci fi.. ish enshrouded?
I don't care for the progression system. I prefer the 'unlock recipe by finding material' system.
Unlocking recipes by level is annoying to me.
ROFL - it's been so long that I have forgotten what the progression system was. 🤣
No, it's an embattled Pokemon clone.
oh wait palworld... palia is something else
ah
then no, there's really not a sci fi enshrouded
i havent touched palworld since a week after release
Palia is basically if you had Age of Empires as an MMO.
I would be careful with Pal-world. This is their 3rd game and every time they have a new game they abandon the last before it's completed.
that game has not gotten very much in the content department
I refunded Palworld an hour after I bought it because the building was boot-ahy.
I may or many not be a bit butthurt on how they completely ruined Craftopia by taking away everything that made it special.
Sometimes Developoers need to learn when to NOT listen to the player-base.
i wish i had refunded dawn of defiance
And sometimes they need to learn to REALLY listen to their player-base... eyes Nighingale
Keen seems to have found a great balance with that.
anyone playing Infinity Nikki tomorrow 😄
Nightingales not too bad tbh, the character lacks.. a certain life feeling
Nightingale was the biggest disappointment of the year for a lot of people
It was for me, yeah.
Oh wait shoot I'm a fool
Have they even added any real content to Nightengale? I was waiting to see if they would ruin it or not before buying it
The card system had so much potential, but it turned out bland. And don't get me started on materials and crafting...
They reworked a lot in the realms update it's what drew me in
Mostly reworked the content they had.
The character feels stiff in third person idk why or how that happened
So... no. lol. They have had almost a year and did basically nothing
didnt nightingale lay off a bunch of devs
That's disapointing... that game had potential.
They closed down the UK studio.
Bland seems to be the word. I've talked to multiple people who said that despite being an exciting and unique premise, the execution across the board was just uninteresting and repetitive. Wide as an ocean, deep as a puddle kind of thing
I was in the alpha for it, I bought EA. I was hopeful for it, it had potential, it just lacked execution.
god... EVERY game has people saying "wide not deep" - it's the toxic gamer's mantra these days. So it's hard to know when that's true or not.
It's serviceable with the update I will admit still confused by it and the character creation is lacking even the character themselves feels off
Most of their problem was, "Oh, this is frustrating? Well, let's tweak it so you still have to do the same thing but in a slightly different way."
Both Nightingale and the new Towers of Agshsmshbla have always online at launch and thats so weird
That is a trend I would like to see stop.
I can't think of anyone that wants that, people hated it almost a decade ago and still hate it
I bought Towers, played it a bit. It has an interesting premise but some of the gameplay is weird.
Yeah, and for a lot of people one of the good things about survivals is the lack of always online
Unless it's multiplayer only, I should be able to play my game when my internet is down.
nightingale did remove it and towers is doing it sometime in 2025 but why add it at all
Or say if you travel a lot or live in a rural area where internet can be spotty
ah yes, games on a plane. 😄
though that would be difficult for me... I don't have a laptop xD
It would be funny to bring my gaming rig on a plane and set it up though 🤣
"LAN PARTY!"
2025 needs an oops all spiders mode, for us spider enjoyers
we demand representation
No seats for anyone else in the row, huh?
This beast would NOT fit under the seat in front of me.
Just don't play counterstrike without headphones on a plane
Better yet, just don't play counterstrike xD
This is also true
"Hello, yes. I need three round-trip tickets to Miami.... yeah, uh huh... no... no other passengers, just me and my gaming rig..."
Is that one of those military FPS's?
Yes.
Blech.
This is starting to sound like the start of a joke
LOL
Or a limerick
There once was a guy from Maine, who brought his PC on a plane....
I got annoyed when they didn’t want to make any effort to incentivize a wiki over secret, discord-only private google docs
The weight drove the pilot insane, so they ended up in spain
Such a horrible system for getting information about the game
Eh. I never look at wikis anymore. I'm too biased after being spoiled by the Guild Wars wikis.
Even better, let me self-host it myself
It's more than that... more that they tried to include the 'esoteric MMO' quest feel into the game where it was, "Go get 5 of these items which only drop from a specific monster in a specific realm, but we're not going to tell you anything so you have to spend the next week trying to figure out what to kill to complete this quest, goodbye."
One big point for Enshrouded IMO
IMO if the game has a single player option, it has no business with an online only requirement
I hate games that are like “you can pay a company to host it for you or F off”
I mean with enshrouded you aren't technically limited to progressing in one order
There once was a lady from Cali
who brought her rig on a Journey...
She stepped on the plane
began to complain
and now everyone's uptight and surly.
One thing comes to my head and it's not a dig at it it's actually a strong suit for enshrouded
Instead of see that mountain you can buy it, it's more see that mountain you can climb it
Or mine it.
or, See that mountain, you can destroy it. xD
See that mountain? Now you don't
Magic Nukes when?
Black powder when?
Who needs nukes when you have a rake?
There's already explosive bombs in the game.
(bugs bunny saying no gif)
Meh. Nah, no thanks. Would ruin the aesthetic.
I just want to be like Percy from vox machina
Thank you 😄

We have sulfur, coal, and nitrate. Just need bananas?
I'm out of spells but not out of shells!
Unintentional.
Far cry 5 has shovel launcher so anything goes
All I want is a Unicorn/Nightmare hybrid mount that farts rainbow glitter when it flies.
Black powder weaps need more love
(Insert Metal Slug voice saying "ROCKET LAWN CHAIR")
Oh god
Oh gods no... not Mr. Toots...
how can we get our link posted in the Socials-feed?
Showed the video to my hubby... he is now in love.
It's a contender for his soul-mate
The social feed channel is for Social media posts from the Devs.
Show him Mr. Toots in Red Faction: Armageddon.
What about butt stallion
these pretzels suck
Are they chocolate covered?
i dunno
He's laughing with great gusto.
"The look on his face!"
"but... what exactly is the player squeezing to fire the unicorn?"
...okay, either I've gotten stronger than I thought or I just had a weird AI glitch. Flew to the top of a plateau in the Nomad Highlands, and when I landed two of those tiger things looked at me, ran around a bush then both jumped off the side of the cliff 😐
you wouldnt happen to be related to chuck norris by chance?
God I love that scene.
I've had things that should want me eaten run away from me
The murder birds suck still
chuck norris never flushes the toilet, he scares the sh out of it
I lived in college station TX and actually met the man. First thing he did was tell me a chuck norris joke.......
do you know a Brandon Pinkerton?
Yeah, the thing that kinda killed Chuck Norris jokes was Chuck himself getting a little too into the meme
I knew a few pinkertons but not a brandon if I recall
Any normal person would be slightly embarrased by them.
I mean, I think he thought they meant people really thought he was that cool which, I think is one of those things where the kids say cringe
I mean... he used to be cool. Anyone who was in a movie with Bruce Lee qualifies for that status.
Oh sure, in the 80s Chuck was practically inescapable
But WoW general chat killed any chance of coolness for me. I got so sick of chuck norris jokes back then that even now I have a negative reaction to them. lol
not sure i've actually watched any chuck norris theatre, I just thought the jokes were always good fun, especially barrens chat during the hey day of world of warcraft
mmhmm...
It was funny for a couple of hours... but after about 3 days of nonstop chuck norris jokes, I wanted to throttle people.
i welcome jokes
wassup guys
hey there 🙂
how we doing
ok you ?
Good talk
Ahhh the golden days of WoW, if I see anyone complain about in game chats in MMOs these days I just think to myself "i was molded by the barrens, you'd never survive" 😂
Barrens was a cess pool
lol seems to be a few issues with this road...lol...who hired whoever built this haha
curious if Ive screwed myself..I need ecto fragments to make keys for the hollowed halls but cant get back inside to collect more,is there somewhere I can go to get the fragments without going into the halls?
It really wasn't originally, once it became a meme all the millenial skibidi rizzlers flooded the crossroads
i feel i cant find any Iron ... do i need to unlock it for me to see the iron ?
Iron is in only a few places in the SE of the map until you unlock the north expansion and then it's literrally everywhere.
Spoiler: ||Directly north of the kindlewastes travel tower theres a shroud root in a cave, all the way at the top of the kindlewastes area. Kill the few enemies inside, take the root, and there's a pretty decent iron node in there. Recommend dropping an altar and a workbench nearby for easy farming||
@pliant quarry Hi!!! Long time no see!
Surely you know why I'm messaging you, riiiiight? (Probably not, it has been 9 months lol)
😏 Could you pretty please go and hug the guys who replaced the spider models for me?
(It's a universal requirement that every time the patch notes mention the removal of spooders, I must request they be hugged)
yeah i am almost there.. i am only level 19 in the gamne so i guess i need to level up more 😄 lol
Nah, you should be good to start exploring there if you have the best gear available to you right now. I think I was around 19-20 when I started exploring the wastes
If you find you're struggling, get more shroud roots and clear more elixer wells xD
i died a lot lol
Quick tip, the two constitution nodes right at the start of the tank/warrior tree, just below the middle circle are two of the most underrated nodes on the tree IMO. For 2 points you can double your HP pool. Do recommend 👍
yeah i have them
You and me have different opinions on this, Barrens chat was absolutely a big stinkin cesspool in 04 lmao. Also, us millenials take no credit for the skibidi rizzlers. 😤😤
Anyone got an extra end game bow? I can not get a good bow to drop
What Flame Shrine am I missing for Revelwood? The Green flags are all the shrines/sanctuaries I've been to so far
can confirm.. I'm old
I think the Blackmire counts as revelwood for flame shrines
I got the 2 there
Y'all. Pls help! I have been searching for two days the answer to this question. Why do I have animal bait unlocked, but not their food, beds, or bowls? I have bait for goat, cat, dog, hophare, fae deer, and flightless birds, but only have food, bowls, and beds for goats, cats, and dogs. Ive tamed goats and cats but havent got to the dog yet. Is there a quest I'm missing. I cant even find recipes online for these foods. It's like they dont exist. But I know they do because Ive seen them on youtube xD!
how many bosses are there in total
that is weird. i dont remember when it unlocks, but it should be at the same time.
The food and bait looks quite similiar, and i've mistaken them for each other before. Do you a screenshot the bowls and then the food after?
where are the world save files located? im trying to download a world save
i dont see anything when i browse local files through steam
C:\Program Files (x86)\Steam\userdata<STEAMUID>\1203620\ I think
Good morning. 
@crimson raft if you need iron, someone yesterday found in the wastes a no shroud, no fight iron deposit if you need fast iron
Yes enable it in the settings
Goooood morning embervale city! Yesterday's death count rounded up to a solid and sturdy thirty, ten outta kindle wastes!
(sorry I have not had coffee yet and I am still waking up slowly
yes. There is an arachnaphobia mode.
Oh, I forgot to send the cute Anti-Arachnophobia-Mode pic I made. Myself surrounded by 30 blobs. 
I had a similar issue too
So basically I made the bait, made the bowls, made the beds, if something wasn't unlocked, whatever, just go tame an animal, and it will unlock the last required items.
Anton Godwin still refuses my cat bait
the more i play the more i question why i chose more enemies
To have them stuck in walls.

the beetles though, it makes nest removal impossible
We had yesterday a crypt with over 200 beetles
Luckily my GF plays mage and brought chain lightning and Fireball
i'm tempted to pack explosives
But it's always omegascream if 3 Banshees die at once
i just hada shroud rootwhich seemingly had a fell convention going on
those banshees attack way too often
As a mage, sending a fireball into a flying crowd of Banshees is the most satisfying thing ever, Lol.
how does enemy respawning work is when logout?
so if I say kept dying but was in the area they stay dead?
Yep
phew
As long as the last ressurection point isn't out of rendering bounds.
(It's the distance you need to render enemies and such)
*Disclaimer: That is what this guy believes is the distance
Does anyone know of any resource worlds/malls with staffs/wands for the most recent update? Wulfrics only goes to level 30
why does the fell with the mace hit like a freight train
Hello hello
haldo
nope haven't heard of any.
Good Morning, Miss Froggy!
gotta love the bug when your game stutters when you doing something
What do you mean, stutters? Like it freezes up when you change weapons, or use your glider?
ya something like that
where?
its prob just on my end though since im opening 2 games and 1 game is playing in the background
This is caused either by your game being on a different drive than steam, your game and steam being on an HDD instead of an SSD, or a shader corruption.
HDD...;;>_>
back then when i have the game on my HDD i got allot of those issues now i transfered it to SSD its a rarely happens unless I have 2 games opened
let me have a look i've got some breathing room atm
Yeah - running two games can certainly show things down.
ok il have a look when i can 🙂
Guys congrats on the wins!!!!
any tips for underground building?
Phew...that's some old technology right there
look. its a lot cheaper okay! 😭
Thank you 
i will say i curse keen for making such an addicting game, which you can avoid burnout from really easily and lose yourself in i only meant to play for an hour this morning but i ended up playing for a lot longer than i thought because I was lost to the exploration
Same for me but building. 
i had to take a build break I was going insane and now i've gotten a completely stupid idea
we'll take it as a compliment 
so you should, usually games burn me out if I lean too far into something but for enshrouded i've been able to balance it all
are you all being good

lol no
Good Morning!
i have iron before I can actually make anything from iron, so no i'm really not being good
D&D alignment chart so boring
smart to stock up, actually
it is, but i shouldn't be in the kindlewastes
do me a favor and kindly report it
and i still have the scrappy pick xD
how do I report it? i purposely climbed a mountain to escape the nomad highlands which I also climbed over a mountain
I... I am not boring. You're blue. 
press F1 in-game and hit report an issue
but there's no issue other than my numbskullery
i got angry at the wyspwvern forgot about the mire, climbed a mountain to break into the nomad highlands, did the same for kindlewastes
But people might do that in other parts and be upset they face now lvl 18-20 enemys.
Hence why Shroud is also a sort of progression check
i didn't fight i just ran xD
A Level 10 Player shouldn't be able to get his hands on iron, y'know. It's meant that way
Only missed by 2 numbers. 
tbh i mostly went for more gear but also to get fast travel points so i cleared the spires
What's better -90 health regeneration delay or +1 stamina regen
I mean if they're crafty enough I'm not a cop they're free to do so
depends on your specialization I'd say. Stamina isn't useful for everyone
Melee
Like warrior
ah that's a bit more difficult since both can be useful
I would probably favor stam regen
Is -90 health regeneration delay even that good? I don't understand it
because without stamina you can't run or dodge, and you die. Whereas health regen delay means you've already survived
Melee likes stamina, but I think regen delay would be better.. Especially if you get the stamina delay one.

The best way to build, at least imo, is to play and gradually add what you find you're lacking. Stam is an issue? Grab endurance (and look at your foods). Dying a lot? Add some con and armor. Build to play style rather than a template
I also stay with health regen tbh
If I die, I die.
But I don't want to wait until my bar fills up again. Also mostly, shoes with health regen reduce also feature alot of regen themselves. For fighting multiple enemies I can see that saving my back. 
But I also feature a very head on playstyle.
I think it depends on whether you prefer 2-handed or 1-handed.
For stamina, I just go out rested. 
Stamina seems to be much more of an issue with 2-handed than it does with 1... but again, it's also playstyle too
I am neither a cop btw. everyone is free to do what he wants.
I just see that people might complain about the possibility to do so, as always. But they do it either way. 😅
i hate 2 handed, it's why dealing with bugs is a pain (i discovered you can use axe as a weapon and it takes out nests easily) but it's so slow to swing if you got bugz due to it using melee animations
puts suggestion of some kind of D&D based flamethrower made by an artificer
It's the amount of time between using the resource (getting hit, dodging/blocking, casting a spell) and it starting to regenerate.
Oh so each action disrupts the time for it to begin healing you passively?
oh drat i got to run going to be late for my date
Stamina seems way better then
And for example, if you regenerate every second a HP... With Boots that reduces the time you start regenerating by 0,4 for example
Depends.
If you got no healer in your back, I'd use that over stamina in group play.
Solo? Stamina is probably better
But I still stay with HP reg, cause I hate to have bandaids etc. with me. 👀
So wait by default a regeneration tick occurs every second?
Like what's the default regeneration rate
I don't think you need any of that. I only use a regen food and I do fine.
I assume it's 1 second.
But normally the stats tab from the character screen provides Insight, albeit I am not sure if it does about that very topic
Oh I forgot about that, I'll check it out tomorrow thanks
I crafted pieces from both the guardian and mercenary set but couldn't decide on boots
The rate is x/second. The delay is 0.5s.
Mind, I only play with that one talent that gives me back 5% health every crit.
I can use some regen, especially if my mate GF gets herself stabbed by fire sword. 👀

Just a 0.5 second delay
I think I will make a sandwhich.
I don’t, sorry. But they do appear in separate sections. I’ve only three recipes unlocked for food, beds, and bowls but 6 unlocked for bait. Someone mentioned they’ve had the issue before and had to just tame the animals and the rest unlocked. I guess I’ll try that.
Weird. I thought making the bait would do this, but I didn’t try taming! Thanks for the tip!
Is the +18 physical resistance? I think it's called any good compared to going with the other option that gives +18 stamina and twice as much health
🤷♂️
Yeah, I got confused too, for some I had to make the bowl to see the feed, for some, I had to tame the actual animals to see it. Not very uh...consistent. Good luck!
have they confirmed if we keep our saves or not come "full release" i wanna play but waiting on for them to say they are done i alpha/beta test a lot of games this is one losin progress would suck big time on
As of current writing (6 Febuary 2024) we do not have any plans to force wipes at any time. However, with the Enshrouded being in early access and the fact that a LOT of things will change between now and full release, we cannot guarantee that there may or may not be a major update
that requires old saves to break.
Also being that so much is changing, there is always a chance that an update may break old saves, so we recommend backing up saves regularly that you care about. As this would be something that could be the end of the world for players.
We will do our best to avoid this, and it's not something we're planning intentionally we cannot guarantee this will "never happen" either since there are a lot of unknown variables in the future.
All info I can do 👆🏻
cool cool still the same stance then. its super good i can hold out for the devs to say this is our finished vanilla game 😛
played about 30 hours EA launch and was like yep this is the surv game to keep track of
If I try hard enough I am also certain I might be able to break some saves. 

easy for you to say
uh oh
some older items have survived changes and are causing chaos in places
which items?
DNs
could be any old crap the stats of which have changed
oooooo k
different enchants, w/e
Wait.
If Prim sounds now like that...
Is he becoming a Vukah?
things you cannot get anymore but that somehow didn't get amended for existing drops
Hey - quick question for you. Are you the voice in most of the Enshrouded videos on the site? 😄
cub go ahead and take the rest of the day off, see you monday
I am not
Who is that 😄
phaze or Toast iirc
Phaze, our video producer, is mostly doing the voice overs
Oohh
if it sounds like a soothing US voice doing eepy ASMR it's likely toast
He wouldn't happen to make... other Enshrouded videos under another name, would he?
I usually have a hand in writing the scripts
I doubt he would make Enshrouded videos for free in his spare time
people who work on a thing tend to stay away from the thing when they're not actively paid for it
lol You make a good point.
otherwise it feels like perma-work and it's a surefire way to burn out
why am i on discord then
I've been there
if you work on Discord I've got a few choice words I'd like to say
Why are we here.
Unlike me, who works in IT and then goes home to spend all my time on my PC gaming.

He just sounds SO MUCH like Sverkerbonk - like similar vocal tone and phrasing.
Discord, every update we strive to make your experience worse. ™️
listen, I log off the bad internet after my day ends and log in to the good internet
You make the experience worse, I grab the money
cub goes on the dark web?
My spouse programs for his job then spends hours programming for fun at night and on weekends.
except for the wallpaper the experience is mostly unchanged
Glad i'm not the only one who thinks that.
it's not the dark web it's a poorly set up f.lux
Steam Forums?
laugh track
Honestly... same 😄
who is that and are they Polish
I'm on a very busy train so I'll not turn the sound on, alas
I love trains
you wouldn't love this one I'm telling ya
Honestly no idea if they are Polish. The accents get a little too close for me to separate them in my head sometimes.
I mean except if all you know are Amtraks
Amtrak is not the best, no
oooh is tonight Karaoke? and are you gonna film it for us to watch and enjoy in a short? 😄
tomorrow is Karaoke, and no, what happens at Keen Karaoke stays at Keen Karaoke
people would actively refund the game if they heard me sing House of the Rising Sun
"I'm sorry I cannot finance such heinous acts"
But I wanna see you sing "Margaritaville"
I am glad I don't work there.
im sending a write in ballot for you to be the next leader of france toast
Already played 2 hours cannot refund
are you mixing us up Prim, Toast hasn't turned up yet
France baguette maybe??
French fries?
work will do that to you yea
can you call out yucky?
... I have no idea what's going on.
Primoris is a gold farmer?
i bought my boss enshrouded, so hes been playing that
also i buy gold i dont sell it
So wheres my CUB Karaoke clip
I cannot refund hence he won't lose the company money here
Also I heard him already on a microphone.

I was rambling a bit that night, a lot of adrenalin and flying by the seat of my pants
porcupines wear pants?
First you are an amphibian, now a porcupine...
I mean he's everytime cold blooded when he tells me theres no coins. 
i hope coins are never added
Hedgehogs do:
ew get that AI crap outta here
like why would the ass be hanging outside the pants
painted on cloths smh my head
gotta keep the marriage with mrs cub spicy
it's cuter that way?
plus, less wear and tear on the pants. those little spikes do a number on cloth
But without AI images, I could never have made my perfect mount for the game.
On a train?
why not? I paid for my ticket same as everyone else
European trains must be a much different experience than US ones xD
Why did u wake up CUB, now we all get the newspaper
u just gotta select the nudie carriage, it's a German thing
For some reason... I feel like that would actually be a thing.
Tbh we have a train where that is allowed and even got advertised....
Wuppertal suspension railway
CUB, you killed the chat with imagination. Congrats to that
everyone is daydreaming about a better rail system now
nobody likes a show off
I think Kira fell finally asleep
nope
It must be like 7 AM now for you.
You sure you want to sleep starve?
shes west coast so earlier than that
Doesn't make it healthier. 
6:30am
its 08:30 here
3:31 PM here
but the birds have started chirping, so I should go to bed
I just fell down the dall-e hole
On way back to the shroud now, date was gooood
okay all - goodnight! 😄
Sleep well!
*morning 😛
that too xD
i think you guys need to work better with core mechanic
I think that's actually intended
forever immortality on lava? doubt
It's the fog that kills, not red goop
red goop
It's not lava, it's solid mycels water.
there is one slapped at wall, if you touch it - it kils you instantly
If you're in the Shroud yes.
it burns timer to 0 and regenerates instatly 1s back
and it's all time switching like crazy between 0 and 1
Yep. I know.
This puddle is just to reduce your time if stepped into.
The fog is what kills ya and takes your HP away
explain me than how with 7lvl altar i'm still burning on lava river
it doesnt cover tbh
Or imagine it like that:
Those spores on the floor are solid and not in your lungs, thus they can't hurt you
at the other zone near tree where are designed holes in ground, with lava on bottom - that one is deadly
what's the difference
The Fog.
so you want to tell me, that red crap under ground is free of fog - even if its reducing timer to glitching 0, and all other is covered by deadly fog? that's.......eh
Where u posted the picture u're not in "The Shroud", standing on the solid Mycels that water got transformed into.
The Shroud is a corruption killing from the lungs as explained in the lore
i'll try to dig my way to river from there
If you go within the fog to 0 a damage event perodicaly triggers draining all your HP
Because this Red stuff is actually water it does not make sense to hurt except for dunno, Shroud damage? And this corruption already lowers the time
wait I just looked that up your not joking???(and yes I am late to the convo)
I am for once not
Van is German, they don't joke.
Some things are not meant to be understood.
Depends on which things
and that suspension monorail looks like fun!
Why you don't die to red shrooms? Yes. Why there's a advertised nudist cabin on a train? No.
If we're still about the red floor Shroud it makes sense still.
Because if both would deal damage where would be the difference?
Would be both the same mechanic, only just one killing you at 0 timer, the other ontop of reducing said timer to 0 even hurting now too. 
have we got a name for what the red stuff actually is yet?
that's not right
I honestly did it not take seriously until...
One in my school class advertised it
that timer on top is like your shield which protects you from fog damage, so once you're out of timer - it's killing you
lava is lava, cant touch it so firstly whole shield burns in a second, next your life. no exeptions
can change lava to "poisoned water"
contaminated, call it whatever you like but it will kill due to polution
Have you ever seen the ground taking up a knife and slicing you?
That's what you demand now.
I stay with that it does make more sense if it's killing you inside the fog
It's still not lava. 
Also it's solidified Shroud you could say.
You step literally on a red mushroom in block form
all what i can see are poor excuses and just white knight defending, with that argument
ground taking knife and slicing you, wtf dude, talk liek this to kids maybe
all what i said that it might be glitched or devs should add kill zone on all red goo, no matter where did you find it and how will you touch it, instead - you went into some strange explaining, going to more and more strange arguments like that one with knife
what did i come back to 
how the hell did you come to this conclusiion, ground with knife? .....
Then call it limitation? 🤷🏻♂️
It might be a bug, but one that did not get attended to for a year.
And if it'd be that important of a gameplay mechanic it'd be fixed with priority
never heard about contaminated floor/polluted/too hot/not avaible to stand on?
goddamn knife man
right in the big finger on the left foot
Someone's having trouble understanding they're not actually sitting on lava, and instead sitting on glow in the dark plants.
deadly shroud?
Is this weird conversations day?
Red shrooms outside the shroud, which doesn't kill you.
oh i thought you meant the deadly red shroud flooring that has lovely pitfalls into
nah, i've just said -it;s kinda glitch, and some guy went into full defensive mode, trying to explain it for no reason
Actually what you describe besides outside fog it doesn't kill
lava which is not lava, some strange shrooms - whatever you call it, still doesnt matter
It's the same thing, actually, but since it's outside the shroud you don't actually die.
i don't think i met those mushrooms yet
It's everywhere where you'd say theres water
like there is any point to add those kind of texture which will set your timer to 0 but wont kill you
ah it is that one
Ok so your resistance to shroud and time limit are granted by the flame. The red goop drains only your resistance to said shroud and you will only die to it if in the shroud.Thats a pretty SOLID mechanic and makes perfect sense. Van is also a helper and his entire role here is to help those with issues or concerns to better understand things in the game. Just sayin
I'll have to look for some that's not in shroud. Don't remember seeing it before.
Anyway. I am out. 
Be nice folks.

it happens in elixr wells it happened to me today
Don't get caught in the wrong cabin!
this root here, its in shoud at the small island on the middle of red goo, killing it cleans shroud around
and there we was experimenting, also after killing tree
there is a nice red goo right on the wall and another one you can easily dig in the ground
... Ok. So, you've cleared the shroud that kills you. What's the problem, again?
mine? nothing? i've just posted screen and someone felt himself offended
game has hella tons of bugs, it wont be fixed for long since it's early acess
i just don't accept idiotic explanations like "ground with knife"
Sigh.
Sometimes fun isn't allowed.
No, Van. Stop typing. Go. Shoo. Be free!
the problem is the red death out of shroud doesn't pick up on it killing you so you can kind of just... run around a bit on the red death
I am free
Sounds like it's more some think it's a bug while others say it's working as intended.
To be fair, it sounds like it's working as intended to me.
it's just weird to me, it's deadly shroud but it's not killing you?
literally this
we could sit and be there forever, while timer up was going crazy between 0 and 1
yup
Then file a bug report and let the devs decide. Again sounds fine to me.
it would be if it wasn't giving in deadly shroud effect
damn, why it's so crazy ahha
in theory, if you have enough time - you can dig to the hell and make a tunnel across whole map, and go like this without any problems
that mushroom on right side is not shroud, i came to it and it's just a mist
I think the intention of it not outright killing is rooted in earlier stages of the game because tombstones could spawn odd. But more to that when I am home.
it's odd i fell off a darned platform after clearing a well and I was trapped down on the red floor, so I kind of just decided to respawn myself which didn't cost me a gravestone (turned it off to balance it out)
tbh we always saw all that red covered by shroud anyway, there are literally 2 or maybe 3 places where falling down on it can be issue
but in other situations it's anyway deadly border to limit us, so why it's separated like that?..
"because we decided like this"
it's an immersive way to border us in and I like that but the detection does be odd
would be much more logical to make it deadly anyway
not insta killing, but all that burning effects so you have some chance to return, but in general - death zone
i like it how it is atm, sometimes sliding off a ledge or goobering a glide does give some recovery
it's only my opinion, but adding damage to that red goo would just help people to be less confused, how exactly its working
if we skip all that disastrous combat system -for explaration and building game is brilliant
no any knifes on ground 🤡
Finally at home. 
hi all, i have what i guess is an uncommon problem. i found ikko and let him out of his cage but
did not have enough bait to tame him. i fast travelled to my base to get more nut when i fast travelled back he had wandered off and i can't find him
anyone know where he goes ?
I think he might got lost, stuck somewhere but theres a sure way to get him back.
Either restart the server you're playing on (If), or go back to the titlescreen and restart the session if you can't find him
Otherwise, stay away from the area for ~31 minutes and he might reset
i've restarted the game several times and he still hasn't reappeared. i do have an altar nearby, could that be stopping him from respawning?
Yes exactly that if his spawn is within this altars borders
ahh ok, thanks so much for your help
Shortly back to that.
It was meant funsies and not against you or to downtalk you in any way. The joke didn't land which is fine. I'll work to get better. I have no reason to "White knight" nor feel "personally offended" about any mechanic from a game who I only happen to have bought a license and no rights on it. Also, I don't know you at all so I don't have any reason to have a personal vendetta against you if you feel that way.
Second point.
If you and your friends (or anyone who can read this) feels that theres something off, feel free to file with F1 a bug report and let the devs decide. Neither you than me decide how it has to be but the devs do. So the entire discussion was from the beginning about opinions which I made clear "Theres reasons, theres lore, theres logic behind that choice" (for me) - If you still feel that doesn't sit right with u, file a report.
You're free to share (politely) your insights and what you would make better or give feedback also with the F1 "give Feedback" tab.
You can even talk about it here too, as long as you don't start a fight. Fine? 
Last but not least I can agree that they can add damage to it, but I think it was attended as "oh shoot, I landed in it, quick get away! Phew, outside Shroud it does not kill me"-escape goat. In addition to Tombstone mechanics being fuggly in the beginning.
That's all.
flashback to my tombstone on a slope that was impossible to get to in early access
You mean fast forward to your next gravestone. 
the only gravestones are ones i build 
With your dead bodies?

with the amount of dead bodies i've had you could build a castle
Better a Hollow Hall
i am tempted to make a basement to honour the insanity loop i've made myself
The office dog?!
Why do we not see more of this dog? ^^
because we are not in the office every day xD
if you're mean to us, you're mean to him
Are we mean to you, hmmmmm?
sometimes
🎶 We listen and we don’t judge 🎶
I’m going to steal your dog
that's super extra mean
WE LISTEN AND WE DONT JUDGE
_The office™️ _ but now with 🐶
my bad
Why are you still in your skivvys in Enshrouded? Just how little do you play :p
It's an old picture
Sure, we believe you O.O

me playing enshrouded
opens enshrouded discord to a butt
Excuse me, that's Tommy Pickles. Put some respect on his name
Tbf I've opened discord to worse
Rugrats was my childhood 😂
The bacon wrapped fried little debbie xmas cakes? Cause that's pretty bad in my opinion X.x
I mean, you're already starting with an inferior base. Those little Debbie cakes have nothing on twinkies
both little debbie and twinkies are gross. I said what I said
They both have issues and why would you deep fry something that is already sort of greasy
Ive never had a deep fried twinkie but id like to try it atleast once
I will admit we got curious like 5 years back and tried a deep fried snickers. It wasn't horrible but OMG it was too much. My husband is 6' 3" and built sort of like a football player, even with me helping, we couldn't really finish it.
too much sugar I reckon? id assume if i tired a fired twinkie it would be the same for me 😂
Essentially and they feel like if you want something deep fried, then you definitely want a pound of powdered sugar on top too O.O
funnel cakes!
Yeah imo the powdered sugar is a bridge too far
Like, a Twinkie is already 95% sugar (conservative estimate)
Only 95%, yeah, definitely conservative in your estimates lol
I googled it out of curiousity and i feel like this is a lie:
According to the nutrition information on a standard Hostess Twinkie, approximately 62% of the calories come from sugar, meaning a significant portion of the cake is made up of sugar. Key points: Sugar content: A single Twinkie contains around 32 grams of sugar. Added sugar: Nearly all of this sugar is considered "added sugar".
id assume it was 99.9% added ingredients mainly being sugar
😆 I have this on my tinder
that you steal dogs? lol
I feel like they're saying 62% is added sugar.....but the other 38% is stuff that will break down into sugar once consumed O.O
Yea I agree, its mainly corn syrup I bet
O.O Let's not steal dogs people. There are plenty of strays that need love at the pound.
"added" in addition to the sugar that is already there
what if they steal them from the pound
#Adopt-Dont-ShopSteal
oh wow they remade pound puppies in 2010
A little better, but really, you should pay the adoption fee, it helps to take care of the strays as they come in.
adopt dogs, and drop off cats at the pound. Got it
ill be like robin hood, stealing cats and adopting dogs
the santa we need
replaces your cat with a dog in the middle of the night
Whats the tavern for?
In ye olden times? Drinking and conversation. In modern times? Drinking and complaining. Questions?
Questions are banned in the modern tavern.
general chat
ty
superior at being useless.
Cats are made for snuggling and being fuzzy. The succeed in every way
Nope, dogs drool and are smelly. I'm good without :p
cats stink too
and they break your stuff
claw your furniture
piss on your rug
eat your shoes
knock your glasses off the counter.
You've had some weird cats, none of mine have done that
theyre tempermental
they hate belly ruvs
ive never met a dog that hsted belly rubs.
My cats love belly rubs lol
My littlest cat will run up to me and flop over onto her back and ask for belly rubs.
thats no cat. never met a cat who didnt claw you the moment you tried.
My biggest cat will also climb up next to me on the couch and turn over for his belly rubs
you have some strange cats.
He will lay there and knead the air as you rub his belly
the only cats i like are maine coons. those are cool.
No, my cats are just well behaved, because you teach them that. Most people don't teach their cats and that's why you see craziness
seems like it.
I haven't lost a single piece of furniture, my cats don't knock glasses off of the counters, if your cat is going out of the litter box it's likely sick or you haven't cleaned it well enough....
LOL it wants to make sure you see it well enough
i'll try later to plane down there from the highest mountain to break it with super sonic speed
i had a (cheap) couch that a roomates cat clawed the shit out of and in always hearing people say their cat wrecked some cables and expensive electronics. no thanks.





