the-tavern

[quiet geyser]

i hope we can turn from (example) a tank into a mage with 1 click upon selecting desired armory dummy stands at home (set + weapons instantaneous dress-up)

[forest crane]

I'd sure like the ability to just refund one skill at a time.

Make tweaking a build easier.

[woeful light]

armor stands huh... think there may be more important tasks

[graceful fjord]

I'm not sure why the concept of armour stands brings me back to Skyrim....

[quasi saffron]

I appreciate them balancing around things player can get creative with, features and such with each patch.
Surely I hope they'll add a new biome but... Maybe it did not make the cut

[graceful fjord]

They may want to keep possible new biomes a secret until they are closer to launch the game.

[quasi saffron]

Wouldn't really make sense or? I mean, Valheim does also launch its newest biomes around.
It's up to them, but I doubt this is their plan - they want our feedback for the biomes and such.

[gentle forum]

They can work on multiple things at the same time and still release smaller updates between large content releases.

[graceful fjord]

I guess, But I wouldn't be surprised if they did keep some surprises for the actual launch.

[quasi saffron]

The surprise will be the actual launch.
(At least if they can hold onto the 1 year plan.) 😅

[woeful light]

https://tenor.com/view/dog-tricks-dog-treats-gif-7645497

[graceful fjord]

Guess we have to wait and see

[lament monolith]

I am so gonna have a hall of armor. I am legit very happy about this

[graceful fjord]

Already planning the layout of your armoury?

[fossil parcel]

doing the same this evening 😄

[lament monolith]

To be fair I planned it a few months ago

[quasi saffron]

It seems my castle will get a new hallway of fame.

[graceful fjord]

Now where would I put....an armoury....I might need to expand...

[quasi saffron]

A hallway full of armors and trophies above them.

[lament monolith]

I would need to finish one of my builds first to call it an expansion lol

[graceful fjord]

I have one main base

[lament monolith]

I have .............6 partial bases

[woeful light]

I have one main and the rest for farming something

[lament monolith]

I just have so many ideas and I never finish them.......ADHD at work

[forest crane]

One box and a handful of altars with literally nothing else scattered around the map, sometimes near resources I want to keep stocked.

[lament monolith]

......Blasphemy !!!!

[graceful fjord]

One main base, and the others are access to other quest locations more easily....but also....decor pasttime

[lament monolith]

To be honest my main save is like that as well purely game focused I have a separate world for building

[graceful fjord]

Same, a few worlds to take things more slowly.

[strange barn]

Yup

nice one

[terse meadow]

[chilly jewel]

I ju ha s man ide an I neve fin them. A..d wor.

[opal dirge]

Having a stroke?

[lament monolith]

Trying to make fun of me or something??

[woeful light]

none of the words are finished, I get it, I wouldn't open with that though

[chilly jewel]

only joke to show you're not the only one who doesn't finish stuff in game. But if you're sensitive, I apologize.

I have a real life bad habit of missing letters and even whole words when I type. I generally proofread everything I type.

[lament monolith]

Nope your good I could actually read it lol

[chilly jewel]

it's weird how the brain works like that...all those brain teasers where they only write partial words and everyone can read them. Ofc, it only works if you keep them in order 😉

[terse meadow]

no, i just relate 😮

[lament monolith]

not you lol

[terse meadow]

Oke oke😂

[carmine scroll]

THEY CHANGED THE BUILDING IN PEACEFUL ACRES?!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

WHERE IS THE STAIRCASE

THEY REMOVED THE UPSTAIRS?!

[golden crystal]

Stop shouting! It's pretty rude to write in caps all the time...

[carmine scroll]

😛

[little bough]

do they have armor stands for the next update?!

AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

[young roost]

Having trouble having anyone join my server, or join theirs, if there's a password involved. I can join an open server but it errors out and says there's no room in the party or the server is full. My friend can't join mine either.

[quaint goblet]

Enemy patrols out yet?

[safe jasper]

wait.. they made a list of what's in the next update??

[young roost]

Just some teasers.

[woeful light]

could you imagine faction rep, and they send bounty hunters and assassins after you, eventually a boss?

[split schooner]

I hope Up3 has new blocks. Glowing red and purple maybe?

Black Marble?

[elfin needle]

They cannot kill me if I have a sky base. They cannot fly...or can they?

[quiet geyser]

Next update they implement gravity and realistic "building collapsing physics"

[split schooner]

nooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo

still waiting for revelwood terrain so i can terraform in the revelwood 😦

[quasi saffron]

Good morning

[quasi saffron]

Well.
In my book we already got 2 wins.
But I doubt we'll get another teaser, even tho normally they just teaser 2-3 times around "lately" before update drops

[subtle prawn]

Or we get more this time, assuming it's gonna be a late August release then it's still about a month till then

[quasi saffron]

I should say more clearly this week we don't get any teaser.

[subtle prawn]

Which would be probably 4 more teasers

[quasi saffron]

Really depends...
I do wonder if the mountains will be in this update or the one after. Tho I thought it'd be in this

[subtle prawn]

Should be this one according to the ama

I mean terrain wise a lot already exists in the game

[quasi saffron]

Only CUB can tell.

[quasi saffron]

Times cha... I mean plans could change.

[subtle prawn]

Time will tell

[hardy kindle]

Good morning!

[subtle prawn]

Morning Frog

[tame seal]

Frog will tell!

Morning!

[signal ocean]

hey gang

[signal ocean]

mountain biome will not be part of this update and is being worked on for a later one (full biome = loads of work)

[subtle prawn]

Expected as much

[tame seal]

A clear and concise no from CUB?! Are you feeling well?

[signal ocean]

it's easier for me to snuff that one out early

rather than have to tell you all there'll be no party once you've pulled out the banners and put balloons everywhere

[tame seal]

That's fair 😄 Less to handle down the line.

[signal ocean]

people reacting to our teaser going "whoah emotes!" when they're... armor stands with different poses? Is quite amusing

[subtle prawn]

Now I'm curious to what the new armor and the lvl 35 enemy is tied to

[signal ocean]

the new armor should look familiar actually

it's based off a specific enemy wearing a variation of it

the level 35 enemies, though, they're just the max level enemies we can currently spawn in the game with dev commands. I don't think they're representing anything specific. They do not represent an increased level cap for either enemies or players. Level cap increase will come with the biome containing level-appropriate challenges

[subtle prawn]

So it was just distraction

[subtle prawn]

Guess I don't know the enemies well enough then

[signal ocean]

did you explore the Hollow Halls?

[subtle prawn]

Not really, my guess would be the Scythe Enemy wears something similar

[signal ocean]

u did it

[subtle prawn]

So HH Armor?

[signal ocean]

correct

[subtle prawn]

Probably a drop like the weapons for all levels?

[signal ocean]

a drop in a specific Hollow Halls afaik

[subtle prawn]

I'd assume HH4 then to give a reason to do it again

[quiet geyser]

Does this mean we aint getting another playable area?

[subtle prawn]

Yeah

[marsh falcon]

I finished the original content some time ago - having purchased the game when it first came out. I'm eagerly looking forward to: new biomes, new quests, etc to entice me back. I can say with all honesty that Enshrouded is my all-time favorite computer game - bar none. But until there is a BIG update - there really is no reason for me to go back and play again. Would love to know when we might expect a big update/patch that would include those things.

[signal ocean]

damn, all-time favorite, huh

[marsh falcon]

100%

[signal ocean]

well I can't say right now what our plans are, but I'm pushing hard so that the team agrees to communicate more on how our plans are going so you guys have a better idea of what's in store

I won't say more than that because when I give 2% of a bread crumb you all figure it out instantly and it's bad for my blood pressure

[marsh falcon]

That would be great! I miss playing Enshrouded very much. LOL c'mon give us a bread crumb 🙂

[hardy kindle]

We'll only have a full on Toast later

[subtle prawn]

You are eating Toast?

[hardy kindle]

eww no

he's too chewie, I prefer flies

[subtle prawn]

You perfectly managed to mislead us tho

[quasi saffron]

[subtle prawn]

Hey Van

[quiet geyser]

Nah we got yo back when you tell us stuff!

[quasi saffron]

Puts the stuff back into the chest slowly.
Thanks for your honesty.

[subtle prawn]

Nows the question if we even get mountains this year

[quiet geyser]

Still time to go

Till end of the year

Maaybe if we dont do water we can add more stuff as well 😄

[quasi saffron]

I think they'll now go with the 1 big Biome per year approach

[quiet geyser]

Oof

Pls dont

[quasi saffron]

Remember how much stuff they added on the way

[quiet geyser]

https://tenor.com/view/freak-out-gif-18501704

Hope the aggro skills for the tank will get fixed though.

[subtle prawn]

Keep in mind that we're basically in August and haven't gotten Update 3, assuming Mountains take 4-6 Months then we're already in 2025

[quiet geyser]

When youre saying mountains, has there been any talk of any specific area including mountains?

[subtle prawn]

Because the next area is gonna be snow biom/mountains

[analog escarp]

Hello ! Is there any tchat for asking question and having any community help ? :3

[quiet geyser]

Fair

[quasi saffron]

I mean.
Blackmire was a solid base although it was a bit small. 😅

[hardy kindle]

hey! yes we have a #troubleshooting channel here

[quasi saffron]

But you can only play for so long in the mud I guess

[quiet geyser]

Oh well, Hope it slays as much as the kindlewastes do

But Im sure it will be insanely fun regardless. Havent had that much fun with a game in quite some time

[quasi saffron]

I had an idea recently for Kindlewastes

[quiet geyser]

Whats that?

[quasi saffron]

Quicksand
Just like the mud from Blackmire 🤔

[quiet geyser]

Could be interesting

after checking all my armors in game and on " teas" i did see some new belts and stuff over that originals doo not have

are we getting some new armor accessories

[terse meadow]

i will pin it

[terse meadow]

it's passion from the community

[subtle prawn]

First armorset will be from HH

[terse meadow]

cub wokeup today and chose facts

[quiet geyser]

are sets armor level same as biomes dificulties they drop at... the tuffest set is far over at kindlewastes? weakest set at starting point prairies biome?

the further u explore the better the set

[subtle prawn]

Yes

[quiet geyser]

so the set droping at the farest biome still to come in the top half map, will be twice as tuff as kindlewaste

will we progress over lvl25 with new top-half map? ...say: lvl50? killing new npc/quests mean more xp and new bosses/roots destroyed mean more skill points.. so we can only go beyond lvl25

[subtle prawn]

Each new major biom will increase the level cap

[signal ocean]

me: "I will not say more for now"
@quiet geyser: "okay so anyway here are all my questions regarding the things you don't wanna talk about"

[subtle prawn]

Isn't that how we get more infos? ^^

[terse meadow]

😂

[signal ocean]

it is

[terse meadow]

its called passioooooon

[subtle prawn]

You gave enough valuable information today :3

[signal ocean]

don't you dare :3 me after using me like that

I feel soiled

I thought we were friends

[quasi saffron]

I mean, you were honest.
In defense to that

[subtle prawn]

But you gave the infos freely

[signal ocean]

don't worry I'm just memeing

also we're not really friends, this is a parasocial relationship where I'm paid to be likeable so you feel like you build rapport with someone, but really, you build rapport with a brand

[quasi saffron]

Now back to guessing that you said more than 2% info will have us know what comes.
Means, with your teasers, we got already 2% of what will come and the update may come soon & there will be no more further info. 👀

I dig it'll be something underground.

[signal ocean]

https://tenor.com/view/angry-girl-gif-12463140

[quasi saffron]

CUB keeping his distance today with us. He wants us to believe he's unlikable.

[signal ocean]

I'm just good at my job

[subtle prawn]

By brain just doesn't work rn at all

[quasi saffron]

If you do further I reconsider giving my little something

[quasi saffron]

Anyway.
Next Teaser for a new roof when?
I mean, now we can drill Toast - after what we've done to CUB.

[terse meadow]

i m still waiting on those decorative paper scrolls, u know?

[quasi saffron]

Just make a roof with them.

[terse meadow]

truly

[hardy kindle]

today we will release a teaser about coins

[quasi saffron]

As if.

[hardy kindle]

got cha

[quasi saffron]

This joke has been used way too often now by Primoris to caught me off guard.

[hardy kindle]

dammit

[quasi saffron]

Try it when you mean it for real next time.

[subtle prawn]

So never?

[quasi saffron]

Back to the corner and sob.

[forest crane]

Coins for the in-game coin shop. Coins for the coin god.

[subtle prawn]

I only accept Blood for the Blood god and Skulls for the Skullthrone

[fossil parcel]

Then we'll have gold mines? I want gooold 😄

[graceful fjord]

Gold mines??

[subtle prawn]

That's locked behind the shroudbux subscription

[quasi saffron]

Everybody wants to make me drool here...

[fossil parcel]

Do you start the subscription when you kill Vorgoth?

[subtle prawn]

Then you are forced to buy it otherwise no new content

[fossil parcel]

Seems like a normal thing nowadays 😄

[subtle prawn]

Sadly

[quasi saffron]

If you kill Vorgoth, game ends - credits will roll and you'll get a CUB pic #the-tavern message

[subtle prawn]

There won't be an end to the story iirc

[quasi saffron]

That would be somehow sad

Want some NPC to pad me on my shoulders and say "You did it! You defeated probably the source of the Shroud! Now we can happily rebuild."

[graceful fjord]

With how destroyed.....the world is.....then they would start to consider matters of repopulation....

[quasi saffron]

For that matter you need a home.

And a bed.

[graceful fjord]

A comfy bed, bigger fireplace.....

more fur pelts on the bed....

lots of candle sconces...

[quasi saffron]

alternatively a bathtub or Tuscany bathroom

[graceful fjord]

Nah, bigger...I'm thinking aqueducts and a bath house.

[quasi saffron]

At some point and I don't know when, we entered bard territory

[graceful fjord]

I had no idea about the bard, but it was a pleasant surprise.

I'm looking forward to more cosmetic recipes

[quasi saffron]

I think everyone is

[signal ocean]

meanwhile all the bad guys respawning in the background

[subtle prawn]

So we're doomed to fail?

[quasi saffron]

Very depressive outlook

[subtle prawn]

Always a good one would be boring

[quasi saffron]

Always a bad one also

[quasi saffron]

But tying the gameplay mechanics to the backstory is a bit bold, if not strange.
This would mean that we cannot die, that they cannot conquer us, and that we would have a stalemate for all eternity.

[lament monolith]

CCurious about something these coins you want your talking in game right? because I am totaly working on a 3d print model for an enshrouded collector coin for fun

[quasi saffron]

That was a hard one for someone who has a headache.
But right now there are no coins, only runes. These are not considered a currency for me now. More like a consumable for gameplay reasons

[hasty hinge]

i wait discount 🥹

[signal ocean]

Enshrouded is based on this tumblr post from 2018*

[quasi saffron]

I cannot read.

[high nexus]

but who decays the decayer?

[quasi saffron]

Also, if Enshrouded is based on this tumblr Post.
Where do the Ancients come from

[vapid canopy]

what happens if you cook and consume things infected with the shroud??

[high nexus]

mmmm, roasted reaper

[quasi saffron]

If you stare at the Sicklescythe Trophy head for long enough you'll find peace.

[fossil parcel]

Monday cannot come faster!

[quasi saffron]

Well then.
Now CUB can spill the beans, we found out that we'll go into the Shroud once again!

[high nexus]

lets hope it wont involve any crouching

[terse meadow]

whoa

xD

[forest crane]

I always loved that line. "You cannot kill me in any way that matters."

[gentle forum]

Not me

[quasi saffron]

If you fight a matron before discovering antiseptic, there is no way you can survive that fight without resenting to arrows.

[forest crane]

So I discovered an easy way to fight them that definitely is probably not intended. Someone mentioned it the other day.

You can just block. Even a 2h weapon.

Blocking just..... blocks the poison as well.

Same thing with the scorpions.

So I tried it out, and now I can melee matrons while taking no damage.

[wide ledge]

I did, yes

[forest crane]

Yep.

I can tear matrons apart now.

[wide ledge]

It's easiest with a 1-handed weapon since you can get more attacks in, but it's totally doable with a 2-handed weapon as well. Just do 1, maybe 2 attacks, then block. The breath attack does basically nothing, so just dodge out of it when it comes out.

[forest crane]

As long as I don't get greedy and make sure I can block when the poison comes.

[wide ledge]

Yeah

[forest crane]

The breath catches me a lot.

But yeah, it doesn't persist.

I was taking them down with a 2h weapon.

No issues.

[wide ledge]

The breath is ultra weak, so I pretty much just ignore it unless I can dodge out of the way first, which isn't often lol since taking the hit is way less risky than trying to dodge the wrong attack

[forest crane]

Just taking the 6 poison vials right to the face and wading through the splashes on the ground.

I thought the green splashes on the ground would also poison me.

[wide ledge]

Yeah, so did I until I decided to try it out anyway

[forest crane]

After I got the cleaned bandages and then you telling me about blocking, I got more brave against them.

[wide ledge]

They're terrifying until you do some experimentation to understand how they really work more

Then they're not really a big deal unless they catch you off guard

[forest crane]

Yeah, I was sitting on a mountaintop trying to shoot them.

[fossil parcel]

Yeah, once you understand how they work you can go head to head with them

[forest crane]

Trying to stay waay out of range and cheese with bows.

Now I just run in and whack 'em.

[wide ledge]

The biggest threat once you figure out how to tackle them is anything nearby that isn't a matron lol

[forest crane]

lol

[wide ledge]

They'll blender you or knock you out of a block

[forest crane]

True. You do really have to focus because if you miss one block, that poison hits hard.

[wide ledge]

The best part about blocking a matron's flasks is that it doesn't even cost stamina

Literally free, just gotta be careful

[forest crane]

I wonder if that's intentional.

It really seems like the kind of attack that must be dodged, like the brutes.

[wide ledge]

To be fair, it's extremely hard to dodge given that it's essentially a shotgun blast lol

[finite nymph]

Are there more hints what the Update will contain?

[wide ledge]

The breath is a proper guard breaker, but the stun and damage from it isn't high enough to be a threat

[pliant quarry]

Why are they so scared of the mushroom, he's a fungi

[forest crane]

Because you cannot kill a mushroom in any way that matters.

[wide ledge]

Though the mushroom may die, the mycelial hivemind lives on

[forest crane]

Pretty sure the single largest organism on the planet is a mycelium.

Might also be the oldest single organism on the planet.

Like, they confirmed that there's this giant mycelial growth under this one forest.

[strange barn]

Who said 29th of july ? Because... I'm clearly read for.... the 29th of July

[forest crane]

Several square miles wide.

[wide ledge]

As far as I know, it's either a mycelial network or a forest consisting of cloned trees with interlocking roots that's the largest organism on the planet

[gentle forum]

Algae, not mushroom

[forest crane]

Ah yeah, that clone forest.

Forgot about that one. Or maybe I was conflating it with the mycelial network under another forest.

Either way.

Only a mushroom knows the true name of god.

Only a mushroom has seen the face of god.

[strange barn]

I like searchin and eating mushroom they are so intelligent for somethinf that seems steady.

[pliant quarry]

Aspen trees always tripped me out when I lived in Colorado, cause entire forests of them were often just a single "organism"

[forest crane]

Because the mushroom is god.

[gentle forum]

Can you come do my job for the rest of the week? I’ll match/exceed your current hourly wage, guaranteed.

[pliant quarry]

is it looking at aspen trees?

[strange barn]

If some in dev content testers needs a rest Im here too

[gentle forum]

It’s recovering lost data and reinstalling broken hardware and configuring it.

[pliant quarry]

I'm so confused what this has to do with aspen trees

[gentle forum]

$35/hr

[golden crystal]

That sounds intresting. 9/10 would do it!

[gentle forum]

I don’t want to work. You come do it for me, and I’ll go look at trees.

[strange barn]

For 35$ a hour ?

[wide ledge]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=geVqSXYMry8

[strange barn]

I'll do it 24 hours

And after this, I'll take a break

For ten years

[pliant quarry]

but I want to look at trees too so I think we're at an impass

[gentle forum]

I can go up another $10/hr final offer

[strange barn]

What about working outside ?

Looking at some trees when the files are loading for recovery ?

And sipping a fruit juice

[gentle forum]

No windows, no phone

[strange barn]

Or a fresh beer

Thats fair

[gentle forum]

Locked doors 😭

[strange barn]

Sounds hard to me

I'm literally workin under the sunshine today

[golden crystal]

Tell me you work for Samsung, without telling me you work for Samsung. x)

[gentle forum]

Anyway enough complaining, gonna grab lunch and take a break

[strange barn]

I wasnt complaining 😎

[gentle forum]

It’s a Fortune 500 company but it’s not Samsung

[golden crystal]

I don't know how to restore data, but can learn fast. The rest is easy to do! 😄

[strange barn]

Why do you all say that primoris job is easy ?

Are you sayin that Primoris is some sort of an "under" human ?

You rude....

I like him

And I think he is brave for doing his work

[quasi saffron]

I somehow forgot that the contest will end in 2 days

[strange barn]

I tried to summit, and the contest does not want me

He said "no, I dont want you"

Pretty clear

[carmine scroll]

@pliant quarry Its too soon! im not ready yet! mercy!

[quasi saffron]

Still intrigued what else we'll get in this update.

[carmine scroll]

anyway i need ways to lay more dirt quicker

my island is full of pockets!

[strange barn]

Angles and rounds stuffs for construction

Mark my words

If I'm wrong, cookies

And if I'm right, cookies anyway

[quasi saffron]

That would be really interesting. Not even the roadmap featured those.

[strange barn]

Yup, I have no big hope for this soon. But i' getting better at making round constructions with blocks

It's kinda hard cause for the illusion you got to make a big thing

[subtle prawn]

very unlikely to actually ever come

[strange barn]

And I'm learning to use some wood benches for the walls of wood houses. But I hope that one day we will be able to Disable the fact that we can grab the props even if we are not in construction mod. My walls flickers when u get near them xD

[strange barn]

I have not found any construction game that really allow you to make "round things" but angles yep

[azure spire]

@pliant quarry update when lol

[strange barn]

Lets hope september
..

[quasi saffron]

29

5 days

120 hours

[strange barn]

I have 300hours on enshrouded

Perfect timing to get the 400hours...

lel

[quasi saffron]

7200 minutes

[subtle prawn]

45 degree yes everything else unlikely

[quasi saffron]

432000 seconds

[strange barn]

What about miliseconds ?

[quasi saffron]

432000000 miliseconds

just add 3 0's

[strange barn]

And that's why. My friend, we'd call him "his excellency"

[pliant quarry]

https://tenor.com/view/disintegrating-funny-thanos-gif-22399978

[quasi saffron]

Just tell them we'll be right there in 432000000 miliseconds

[strange barn]

For me, in my mind, you are the fable 3 charachter at the end. Who's so nice that the gold chamber is empty @quasi saffron

[terse meadow]

😂

[slim cypress]

Patch notes when?

[azure spire]

I'm sorry I had to

it's the law

[quasi saffron]

Normally when they plant the patch

[strange barn]

Released day or the day after as usual I guess

[strange barn]

That was my first run. I was 12 and I was really nice...

Way to nice. So much nice that I married so many wifes cause I could not tell no...

[terse meadow]

😂

what

[strange barn]

I was 12, don't judge me

[quiet geyser]

WAAAAIT UPDATE ON MONDAY CONFIRMED???!!?!

Wuuhuuu thats what Ive been waiting for! Thats what its all about

[tacit vigil]

Guys when do we have PvP ? 😁 I know I know

[chrome ravine]

next year

[tacit vigil]

Do you think ? Could be really cool to create some nice team adventure on our servers.

[noble anchor]

PvP is not on the roadmap currently. You can upvote the suggestion here: https://enshrouded.featureupvote.com/suggestions/525063/add-pvp-player-vs-player

[subtle prawn]

#game-faq message
Unlikely but could happen

[tacit vigil]

This was my « I know I know »

Tks for the upvote link

[woeful light]

I think some people host games just to kick anyone that enters

[prisma frost]

Is this real, guys? #socials-feed message

[gentle forum]

Yes?

[woeful light]

don't know, I don't touch tiktok

[prisma frost]

We have king charles approval?

[safe swan]

There is also youtube link.

[azure spire]

I don't want pvp I want the rest of this huge map I want to explore

[twilit valve]

Any word on what the update on Monday will be including? 👁️

[foggy veldt]

armor stands and difficult settings

[twilit valve]

Interesting, thank you!

[pliant quarry]

Well other features coming don't mean level expansions won't come or will come slower :) We aren't gonna have our level designers work on like, the difficult system, for example. That wouldn't make much sense.

[azure spire]

I've just being waiting for so long and all I want to do is fly around the map explore more places hopefully get to make steel and magical tools

[quasi saffron]

I, in my function as a king, approved the patches arrival at monday.

[noble anchor]

Lots of people want lots of different things, and the addition of one feature does not implicitly mean the sacrifice of another feature.

[azure spire]

I dont care about pvp

it should be the last thing added in

Not everything needs pvp

[noble anchor]

You don't, but 200 people have Upvoted it. I get it, I don't care about PvP either, but the devs will work on what they decide is priority.

[lyric fjord]

Well just to let yall know there's resource servers and some are modded wepons i have a bow that does 73k damage lol so how will that be fair in a pvp sever .... it will become call of duty b4 it's over i don't think pvp would be a good idea i say just give us the biggest map ever and add rideable companions

The ones that voted for it possibly are the hackers that would smash everyone

[quasi saffron]

With gliding and teleporting the last is to rule out.
But over all I'm with u.

[azure spire]

So you cheated

[azure spire]

If I want to play a pvp resource base building game I will play rust

if people want that go to rust

[lyric fjord]

Thats a negative i beat the game b4 the swamp was added and ran avoid the server helping newbies out getting good stuff

[quasi saffron]

Theres no item with that much damage that exists legally.

[azure spire]

Is it hard to get good stuff

I never struggled

[lyric fjord]

Ur correct they don't unless u find or like me run across modded weapons.

[lyric fjord]

Me either but some do everyone is different

[quasi saffron]

It's still a cheated weapon that is used.
That way fighting does not have anymore much more of a grip if the weapon is used.

[noble anchor]

You're missing the point, and you don't get to dictate which priorities or suggestions the devs work on. Please avoid stating that people should go play something else because they want a feature you don't care about, we believe everyone has a right to play whatever games they want, make feedback and suggestions. It's a part of our rules to be welcoming to players of every type, even if we don't agree with their priorities.

[azure spire]

I was only suggesting that there are plenty of resource base building pvp games already, but I will stop I have no intention of arguing with a moderator after being threatened.

[quasi saffron]

Depends on what you feel. They mostly turn out very chunky - but we'll see

Trust me, that was not even a threat by now

[noble anchor]

Threatened? There was no threat in that.

[elder parrot]

Cold cooldown sodas for erryone ❤️

[gentle forum]

I’ll trade the soda in lieu of you coming to do my job

[lyric fjord]

Ur right it is.... witch i want play pvp is not worth it to me but others will and will have weapons like this and no 1 will stand a chance against them it will become call of duty b4 it's over

[elder parrot]

But, people are unruly and insane, i dont want to have any responsibilities trying to manage them, or me, too rough! You keep your job ^^

[gentle forum]

😭

[elder parrot]

Sorry ❤️

[gentle forum]

Malzian will take it from me?

Or Van 🤔

[quasi saffron]

You stay at your job Prim.
As I do as a king.

I'm out gl

[noble anchor]

I'm diabetic, no soda for me.

[elder parrot]

Can also give coffes and teas ^^

[lyric fjord]

@quasi saffron if i could post a pic i would of the lowest damage i have from the modded resource server

[foggy veldt]

i hope pvp is one of the last priorities

[gentle forum]

No no. You do my job.

I’m this close to losing my mind today.

[quasi saffron]

Trust me. After you lost it, you've got nothing anymore to lose.

That makes you pretty much invincible

[elder parrot]

(So, when is the update and what will be the price? will it be more then palworld? ^^)

^^

[quasi saffron]

29.07.2024
Your Soul
Nope

[elder parrot]

The question wasn't aimed at you, rygel ^^

[quasi saffron]

But this answer was what you got

[elder parrot]

You'd need some more backlore to understand all of it tho ^^ so it wasnt a working answer

I will prolly wait until next-next update, since i already did a rerun
and i don't really need to change difficulty settings to make it more fun ^^

[noble anchor]

My job keeps me busy enough, thank you.

[elder parrot]

They could always make a 1-2 hours cooldown on chest to nudge people towards not meta-fishing for "the best loot" via login-logout ^^

But, it can't be helped - i don't think it will be popular ^^

[gentle forum]

I’ll give you the same rate I offered toast today 😭

$35/hr potentially 12 hour shifts if you want. 🤑

[noble anchor]

I make significantly more than that, and on salary.

[gentle forum]

I can go to $45/hr + per diem and hotel paid for

[pliant quarry]

Primoris are you okay lol

[noble anchor]

I still make more.

.>

[gentle forum]

No, im losing my mind

I regret taking this job

It’s not bad or overly stressful, just annoying and people who own the company are stupid

[noble anchor]

Sounds like every job I've had ever.

[gentle forum]

I’ve actually enjoyed 90% of my jobs

[high terrace]

WOULD BE NICE TO KNOW IN WHICH MONTH THE UPDATE HITS ups caps but too lazy to write it again ;D

[high terrace]

oh oooo k thx a lot /hug

[elder parrot]

July 29, 2026 ^^

/jk

[finite nymph]

Could you Tell me, what content will it bring?

[noble anchor]

Sorry, no can do.

Moderators are all subject to NDA for anything we are told about.

[gentle forum]

Check the sneak peeks posted in #socials-feed

Other than that all you can do is speculate

[terse meadow]

update when?

[tame seal]

https://discord.com/channels/1046840540550942720/1060222750054158477

[terse meadow]

😂

[quiet geyser]

Update when?

i will ask again same question on July 29 after patch

[lament monolith]

Can I borrow the BANHAMMER plz???

[tame seal]

Funny people in here.

[quiet geyser]

Don't ban your self ..we need you

[finite nymph]

Alright. Thanks anyways😊

[quiet geyser]

Yes

[quiet geyser]

July 2029

[terse meadow]

same

it s just a lil joke, hope u didn t get offended

[tame seal]

Personally don't see where pvp fits into the concept of the game, aside from people just wanting to punch each other in the face with no other intention than mindless button bashing. But each to their own and i'm sure the devs will integrate it in a way that it wont inhibit their vision! If/when they do.

[quiet geyser]

I mean i can see how it could be fun to 1v1 friends. But then again that would have to be balanced if there was some sort of ladder (which we will never need)

[tame seal]

As i say.... mindless button bashing. The story/concept gives no reason for players to pvp.

[gentle forum]

Toss in a friendly fire option on server configs and call it a day

I don’t think there’s much skill to the games combat to warrant actual PvP here

[woeful light]

Well the story doesn't necessitate mindless button mashing.

[woeful light]

altar option, red border with warning

[tame seal]

My point being, there is no REASON for pvp in the game except people wanting to hit each other.

[gentle forum]

Enshrouded is more co-op than something like pal world where everyone is playing by themselves with others

[woeful light]

Yeah your point is also calling pvp "mindless button mashing"

[gentle forum]

I want to hit people

[tame seal]

Like, the game is built around cooperation and 'saving the world' not fighting for resources to survive in a harsh environment.

[gentle forum]

I’d challenge @quasi saffron to a Mak’gora

[tame seal]

In this game especially, pvp would be mindless button bashing 😄 Its not built for pvp.

[woeful light]

the parry system alone would make pvp more exciting than that

[quasi saffron]

Me and my group also tried to PvP in Valheim. Was funny for 1-2 nights, but after that everyone was out. Was too stressful for them.

[quasi saffron]

I'd decline and go offline.

[quiet geyser]

Exactly

[gentle forum]

That’s most survival games though

[woeful light]

You could also do something akin to dark souls invasions

[gentle forum]

PvP needs to be designed with the game to be needed. Otherwise it’s an after thought

[quiet geyser]

Yes. But also in real life I wanna hit my friends.

[tame seal]

Oh look, people wanting more darksouls in every game 😄

[quiet geyser]

Thank you and good night

[gentle forum]

Again, the combat is not really complex enough to warrant that either I don’t think

[tame seal]

What you do in your own back garden, stays in your back garden 😛

[quiet geyser]

This saying couldnt be more german

[gentle forum]

It would be like trying to add PvP to Zelda

[woeful light]

I dont think it has to be really

[quasi saffron]

PvP would just turn out people to jump out with glider, try to evasion attack each other, permanently block et cetera.

[woeful light]

the people that want pvp just want pvp, its really simple

[pliant quarry]

PVP to settle loot disputes

[quasi saffron]

And melee way stronger than caster

[tame seal]

It is, 'mindless' button bashing. They want what they want with no consideration for anything else 😄

[quasi saffron]

ranger unplayable

[woeful light]

you just need to separate the two, let pve'rs pve and pvp'ers pvp

thats why I suggested a pvp altar zone option

a gladiator pit if you will

[tame seal]

That's all well and good, but the PVP'ers never stay in their own space. They always have to find weak ones and unceremoniously gank them where possible 😄 (Yes, i'm lumping a group in one barrel.... but it's always the minority that gives the reputation.)

[woeful light]

yeah you don't want to get griefed, you don't like pvp for that reason, you've made your point

[tame seal]

When you give people the ability to interfere with each other, they will do so no matter what anyone else says.

[tame seal]

Actually, i like certain types of PVP. Used to be competative in earlier days so... 😄

[quasi saffron]

Or they'll try to get people into it without their will, with bugs, whatever.

[tame seal]

I can handle griefers... it's quite simple, i keep myself out of their range.

[quiet geyser]

I mean Enshrouded aint an MMORPG and I think most ppl are playing the game with their friends anyways

[woeful light]

thats why I'm saying don't do that, you can add pvp without enabling griefing, but you are overreacting to the anxiety you feel of being ganked in game

[quiet geyser]

TBH, arena combat in this game could be a lot of fun.

Let players design their own arenas and fight in them.

So not much possibility to have griefers

[tame seal]

But a game like this? It's not built for pvp and quite literally any half assed attempt to appease the pvp'ers (No i don't think the devs would make a half assed job of it) Will just end in a horrible mess for the masses.

[quasi saffron]

If it's via an altar, people would place them next to people and just start battle

[quiet geyser]

I feel like the game just has other more important things that need to be worked on than PvP.

[quiet geyser]

Yea would be real goofy

[quasi saffron]

Also it'll take time away from the actual game

[woeful light]

for sure
I don't even think pvp would be enjoyable (for me anyway) without more class balance
melee would be at a disadvantage first of all

[quiet geyser]

Or you just put a timer on starting a PVP zone, so people have a few minutes to clear out if they're not interested.

[tame seal]

Friendly fire, sure. As was previously mentioned, but specific PVP? I still ask the question, aside from people creating their own, there is not story/concept basis for actual pvp elements in the game.

[quiet geyser]

That's fair, but I don't think it's necessary for everything to have a story basis. The point of a game is to be fun, and to add more fun elements without wrecking what you already had.

I mean in Wow 2v2 arena horde sometimes fights vs other members of the horde

So not everything needs to be grounded in story

[woeful light]

wow was a classic example of a pve game that they added pvp to

[quiet geyser]

Now imagine if players could build their own arenas and host duels in them. Could be a lot of fun.

[quiet geyser]

Sure. Could be fun

[woeful light]

see? pvp'ers just want the thrill of pvp, give them that option but not at the expense of pve'rs

[quiet geyser]

There would have to be a mechanic that would allow players to have to collectively agree on PvPing

[quiet geyser]

Some of us just want PVE but with the option to do arena fights at our leisure, and it's a common issue where games are all PVE or all PVP, but rarely support a more limited PVP environment where participation is optional, and you can set things up for custom situations.

[tame seal]

Absolutely. This games freedom especially is mostly endless. The problem when a game is not built for pvp is griefers. People cant have open servers because of them and there isn't even any pvp involved right now... add the ability to actually kill each other and it literally becomes a living mess. It just becomes everyone playing closed, private games anyway 😄

[woeful light]

yeah I would make it altar based and you get a warning when you approach the border of the zone

[tame seal]

Why does pvp have to be in every game though?

[woeful light]

"WARNING: this is a pvp zone"

[tame seal]

A self placed altar?

[noble anchor]

Well, Valheim solved the problem of griefers by making both players have PvP turned on for it to work.

[woeful light]

why can't you let people enjoy things you don't necessarily want?

[tame seal]

Why are you insinuating that i don't specifically want it?

[woeful light]

lol its pretty obvious

[quiet geyser]

"People cant have open servers because of them and there isn't even any pvp involved right now"

Literally just create a tribe/clan/guild system, and make all blocks within an altar's range completely indestructible for anyone who isn't part of the group.

[tame seal]

It is?

[noble anchor]

It doesn't, but that won't stop some people from wanting it in every game.

[noble anchor]

You can do this with the server password system and roles already.

[quiet geyser]

I think it would have to be even stricter

Nothing that can be gimmicked or trick players into being jumped out of the blue

[tame seal]

Fully agree, there are ways and means about doing such things, it just don't see the game in it's current state being able to effectively support such things though.

[quiet geyser]

I like having the option to play with people I don't necessarily trust, and that means locking down certain things - like turning everything within altar range completely indestructible if you're not part of the group that owns the altar.

If someone wants to grief the entire area outside of altar range, that's cool. It'll reset once someone leaves render distance.

[tame seal]

You cant even have people using different altars on the same world at the moment.

[quiet geyser]

Yeah, but I don't think it's a technical mountain to climb. It's a minor rework, but would probably be considered a more "major" feature due to the need to be very careful with testing.

[woeful light]

yeah for sure, so like you can't place or upgrade the altar if it would enter another altar zone, I would even make it a separate item, so there is no "surprise pvp!!1" modifying it once people are within its borders

[tame seal]

I'd question your assumption of 'minor' but that's an entirely different topic 😄

[noble anchor]

The current role system has 3 groups: Admin (can do everything + ban), Friends (can build, Access chests, etc), Guests (can visit and not do anything but look). The rules are assigned by password, so you give the friends password to the people you trust, admin is yours and guest goes to everyone else.

[quiet geyser]

Nah, just start an on-screen timer once someone activates PVP.

If you can't open the menu and teleport away within 2 minutes, that's your problem.

🤣

[woeful light]

that needs to be finer for sure

[noble anchor]

It's a start.

[tame seal]

They want free, open servers, which means these passwords restrictions currently, simply wouldn't work.

[quiet geyser]

This. In real life people have neighbors. Doesn't mean you give them the key to your freaking house.

[noble anchor]

For now it's what we have.

So, until they make it better... Work with what you have.

At least it's an option.

[quiet geyser]

Yeah, but people want the ability to interact with someone that they like, but don't necessarily trust because they don't know them that well yet.

Can't even get to the stage of trusting or not trusting someone until you know them first.

[noble anchor]

(Triumphant return of the meme announcement.)

[tame seal]

Which is all well and good, though looking for that sort of thing, you're much better off going to games aimed in that direction, rather than wanting games aimed quite literally in the opposite direction to change, no?

[quiet geyser]

I play within a very narrow niche of games with good building mechanics. Right now the games I play are Conan Exiles, Ark: Survival Ascended, and Enshrouded. There are a few others that caught my eye, but none of them quite measure up.

[woeful light]

I would make it checkbox/radio button array of roles/perms:
can deposit * can loot * can build * can destroy * can craft * can place altar * can mod altar * can remove altar * can promote/demote * can kick

[noble anchor]

Conan and ARK have good building mechanics?

[tame seal]

Which is fine! I don't know about Conan, never played it, but Ark has always had the element of potential pvp from the start and that's part of it's premise.

[tame seal]

Hey.... before enshrouded, Ark was probably the one i had most fun building in 😄

[quiet geyser]

Posting screenshots in #other-games to show you what I've done.

[lament monolith]

Conan did always have some great props and such to build with. but hated the actual game

[noble anchor]

My experience with Conan and ARK's building is: "I can make a box house out of straw, or a box house made out of wood... Or even a box house made out of stone!" 🤣

[tame seal]

Don't forget the underwater box house!

[woeful light]

this is my first building/survival game, is the building really the best in this genre?

[lament monolith]

To be fair Thats alot of peoples experience with building/survival games.

[lament monolith]

Best I have come across and I have played dozens. add in the terrain manipulation and yep

[tame seal]

The flexibility is by far one of the best. Though there are people that have been able to make extraordinary constructions out of the simplest building systems.

[quiet geyser]

That's why you don't use squares. They have triangle pieces for a reason.

Enshrouded doesn't use the same mechanic, but the way it does things is still really good and I like it. It's just that there's not really any true multiplayer, which would definitely help.

It's not necessary to enjoy the game - it's honestly good as is, but true multiplayer would definitely make it better.

[woeful light]

yeah but I think you could program that to happen, like if you were to build a diagonal "wall" of the same material it would fill that triangle automatically

[tame seal]

Again, you're looking for something it's not designed to be ^^

[quiet geyser]

I think Enshrouded's building system is fine as is TBH.

It's like someone took Minecraft's block system (which in turn was taken from another game), made the blocks much smaller, and then upgraded the heck out of it until you get something that bears only a very tiny resemblance to the original.

[noble anchor]

If Keen can get their engine to handle voxel rotation other than 90°, the game would be unparalleled for building.

But that is a long shot.

[tame seal]

Most definitely.

[woeful light]

I've always hated that people like minecraft 😆 but this game is great

[tame seal]

I've never played minecraft, probably never will. Curious though why you hate people liking it?

[quiet geyser]

I played Minecraft. The issue was always that the blocks were a bit too large, and mods like Cubits went too much in the other direction.

Enshrouded managed to strike a perfect balance in block size, I think, and then it added a bunch of "block prefabs" like doorjambs and window frames, while also creating custom behavior for blocks connecting to other blocks.

[woeful light]

its just so like 96 looking you know, and it has since been remade with better graphics many times and it still has a massive base, its petty i know

yeah thats critical imo, the behavior of a voxel based on its surroundings

[quiet geyser]

I like not having to build something 1000x the player's height just to get fine detail in a build. You CAN get pretty detailed in Minecraft... but you have to make your builds huge to do it.

There's a reason megabuilds are so popular on YouTube.

[tame seal]

Ah i see, one of the 'i don't like it so why do others' 😄 I mean i understand, the games visuals don't appeal to me either but let go of the feeeeeeeeeeels its not that important! 😄

[woeful light]

😆 yeah I would think you would understand (pvp cough)

[tame seal]

I have no direct feelings to pvp 😛

[quiet geyser]

I love making custom arenas. The issue is not being able to fight in them...

Like... I'll make an arena whether there's a PVP option or not. It just won't get used for arena fights if there are no "controlled PVP" options available.

Instead it'll just sit there looking pretty.

[tame seal]

So you actively want to spoil your creation with blood, guts and gore? Shame really!

[woeful light]

yeah the pvp altar should have spikes and skulls on it and what not

[quiet geyser]

The best part of making an arena is having the chance to break it in.

Need that finishing touch on the walls and floors.

[woeful light]

or maybe scavenger style

[quiet geyser]

Just put a Scavenger Matron's head on a pike to mark out a small PVP spot.

Also... maybe disable terrain destruction. I don't want people wrecking my arena by throwing bombs around...

[tame seal]

Just take some of your own and start smearing it around? Or that of the workers that built the place... i'm sure you've whipped them enough to make them bleed.

[tame seal]

🤣 You know that's the first thing that would happen.

[quiet geyser]

Maybe not the first thing to happen, but it would certainly happen within the first five minutes.

I once made the mistake of using a cooking fire with bombs on my hotbar. Turns out you can grill more than meat and mushrooms in this game...

[tame seal]

Actually that's a fantastic way to grief the griefers.... when they come to grief just blow a hole in the ground they cant climb out of....

[quiet geyser]

The entire arena is a one-block thick floor above that red shroud liquid stuff.

Bombs encouraged.

[tame seal]

@quiet geyser Complete change of topic though and slightly random.... have you been in the server before today?

[woeful light]

yeah terrain, but you could also have a respawn timer for building materials, so you could destroy a floating platform for example and it would reappear in 5 seconds or so

[woeful light]

😆 I actually have a base for that, I stand above the storage room and disable the floor when they go for it

[tame seal]

Who's they? o.O

[quasi saffron]

I missed out on Toast again.

[woeful light]

any unlucky rube 😆 #screenshots-and-art message

[tame seal]

Ah so you play on an open server inviting them into your kill zone.

[quasi saffron]

Thats evil. Can I have the plans for this?

[lethal rune]

valheim has things like that

once i put core wood very high in the air and a portal on top

and people who used the portal fell to their deaths into a pit filled with either spikes or untamed wolves - it was so high the fall should kill them

[quasi saffron]

Back to WoW and log through every character to adjust talents and interface.

[carmine scroll]

ya, I would like to allow people to access "free chests" but maybe not build/destroy.

[woeful light]

and you would have a + button to add a new custom role or delete one, honestly It should be part of each altar menu
if each player that joins can place their own altar, they should also be able to moderate it

[carmine scroll]

sure.

would be nice to be able to lock some chests and not others too but that might be a bit of a stretch.

[gentle forum]

I think a creative mode would be nice to have especially with the introduction of server/world controls in the upcoming update.

But I can be patient

[carmine scroll]

I want to be able to place down large blocks of dirt.

and fix my pockets......

also to be able to fly so i can make the bottom of my floating island look good.

[gentle forum]

One day.

[carmine scroll]

and cake

we need cake

[quiet geyser]

Yes, on another account. I've wiped my Discord account a few times before, but I was on good standing in here. No warnings or anything like that.

[elder parrot]

? ^^

Ive been here all the time ^^

[carmine scroll]

hmmmmmmmmmmm

[viscid bluff]

those cake designers are getting fancy.. makin Vukah lookin cakes that type 😮

[elder parrot]

Its magic for sure gwrah ^^

[carmine scroll]

Gwah.....................

[tame seal]

Ahah! Thought i recognised the name, but the join dates didn't align 😄 Glad to know i'm not too coocoo just yet.

[quasi saffron]

Co-coo!

[viscid bluff]

...yet

[strange barn]

coucou

means Hello to me

oh, just realized that I need tents to place, like ones you can find from the dead folks

Man...

we can litteraly build anything we want, and I want tents to live in

[viscid bluff]

i want tents too.. and the actual prison cell bars/matching door lol

[strange barn]

that is a pretty original combo

[viscid bluff]

my dreams of imprisoning the npc's will come to fruition eventually lol

[strange barn]

I hope so, I'm pretty sure I will want to have a prison too

for those greedy vukhas...

[quasi saffron]

I agree. Those Vukahs are a root of evil.

[strange barn]

Indeed they are. Hopfully they're fluffy. It's a point for them

and Fort Kelvin's ones are nice

sooooooooooooooooooooo

I just erased 95% of my village

main house still there tho

if tamable or farmable animals are in the next update, I will do the prettiest zone for them

and a slaughterhouse

[azure matrix]

lol

[strange barn]

what is funny ? ask animals if they will laugh

héhé

[viscid bluff]

i honestly want a farm too.. i'd love to see a slaughterhouse for one just to see how creative someone gets with it lol

[quasi saffron]

A weathered stone block and a thatched roof are best suited for this... Then add a few table saws that you insert into the ground...

Maybe the tarred thatched roof.

[quasi saffron]

Anyway...
Patch on monday.

Guess that'll be the time to turn Enshrouded into some kind of Assassins Creed.

[strange barn]

?

[quasi saffron]

I'll sneak and stab

And play around with enemy awareness to make enemies... Less aware.

[quiet geyser]

Anyone got any idea what's coming in this next update other than difficulty settings?

[carmine scroll]

no. not outside the spoiler videos.

theres nobody hiding extra information.

[opal dirge]

That's what someone would say if they were hiding extra information... lol jk

[viscid bluff]

that's exactly what a spy would say if someone was withholding information..

[gentle forum]

Yes

But I can’t say 😢

[outer jay]

If you have a bow equipped and keep it in the backpack (not the hotbar) is it lost on death? Thanks

[forest crane]

So, I think I read somewhere that "items not in the hotbar are lost on death." From what I've found, at least right now it seems to only be raw materials.

I've had any number of armor, weapons, and random loot in my inventory, and when I died I only lost things like wood, ores, shroud liquid, metal scraps, nails, fur. Never lost anything like scrolls, potions, or actual equipment.

Once I realized I could keep my bow in my backpack rather than on the hotbar and the hotkey would still work, I started doing that. Never lost a bow or any arrows.

I kinda hope they don't change it.

But I do keep stone in my hotbar for that reason, so I always have some stone on me to craft an altar, and I don't lose the stone when I die because it is in my hotbar.

So really, if you're planning on dying, you'd keep as few weapons/arrows/potions in your hotbar as possible and reserve those slots for the materials you're gathering.

[outer jay]

Great 👍 Thanks for the info

[forest crane]

Just a note I haven't confirmed that last tip.

But it is true I've never lost equipment, potions, or scrolls when I've died.

[woeful light]

or ammo

[gentle forum]

It’s mostly crafting materials that are lost. Weapons, armor, ammo and consumables are kept.

[outer jay]

That;s good to know.. Makes things a little easier and more enjoyable not having to worry

[woeful light]

oddly runes and lockpicks are dropped

[outer jay]

I do have another question 🙂 Is there any point and/or does it become necessary to build another home base? Invested in a lot of wood building...Now I have the resources for metal structures.. Should I tear down my current home or build another later?

[viscid bluff]

really depends on how you like to play i suppose

[gentle forum]

Yep, which I don’t mind about them dropping I guess.

[outer jay]

I think I might start a new home somewhere else.. No point in tearing down

[gentle forum]

It might be nice to move when there’s a big update and most of your time is spent in the new region

Currently I feel like I can get to the other regions fairly quickly at the moment with my base above the Pillars of Creation. But may move depending on how large the next biome is and if I need to be there more than where I am now.

[outer jay]

Are we expecting a new area? The map is kinda already huge.. I thought

[viscid bluff]

the map isnt even fully opened up yet lol

[woeful light]

might build one above the vukah tree, thats likely to be the center of the finished map

[viscid bluff]

that's not actually center

[outer jay]

Is it not?? Good lord lol

[viscid bluff]

nope lol

the pillars of creation are about center of the current open world.. but there's a lot of unused world past the northern red EA border

[outer jay]

How long can I expect to play in it's current state? Without running out of things to do I suppose

I'm still only around my first tower after the starting area

[viscid bluff]

never actually paid attention.. i like to explore so i probably spent a lot longer than a normal playthrough

[woeful light]

depends on how much you like building

[gentle forum]

Well you’ll have an update on Monday that should add some stuff to help keep you busy

[outer jay]

I enjoy building sure but I mainly focus on exploration

[gentle forum]

Don’t advertise non-enshrouded content here.

[rich egret]

Wow busy today guys 😂

[quiet geyser]

Should be part of the inc difficulty settings imo

[quiet geyser]

I'd rather not lose stuff.

👀

[quasi saffron]

3-4 modes.

1. Lose nothing.
2. Lose (like now) stuff
3. Lose all things in the backpack
4. Game needs to be reinstalled (Hardcore)

[woeful light]

I had a crazy idea for an ability:
the ace of spades: create a bomb in your inventory that you can toggle on or off, deals (the saboteurs) max health aoe damage, requires workbench, limit 1

• on: when you die the bomb explodes, you cannot be revived
• off: if a player loots your tombstone the bomb explodes damaging them, a new bomb is placed in their tombstone that can now damage you, chains indefinitely

[quasi saffron]

Why you're mad about my modes.

[woeful light]

no I just like funny emotes, I think you and I have similar tastes

[quasi saffron]

Maayybö
Mode 4 would also solve the problem about people crying about reinstalling the game from zero. "Die less"

[woeful light]

5. game needs to be repurchased
6. no new updates

[quasi saffron]

You forgot 5,5.
You will be downgraded one Update and need to wait the entire span of 2 months.

[quiet geyser]

5. you have to rebuy the game to try again

[quiet geyser]

6. you have to rebuy and buy an extra copy for a friend

(For every deaths its an additional copy)

[quasi saffron]

7. Banned with that E-Mail/IP, you need a new device

Would actually like that difficulty

[woeful light]

https://tenor.com/view/sweating-wet-wipe-gif-15394859

[quasi saffron]

I'd also love a No Build Mode.
You can set up Altars, but only with Level 1, Flame can be upgraded and boxes put down, but you cannot repair or place blocks.
Buildings are allowed to be overtaken.

[woeful light]

need shelter though

[quasi saffron]

For that you can take over a building

Anyway. I do wonder If the update does something about:
How much altars we can place,
the upgradeable build range
or adds more creature variety for the Shroud

[quiet geyser]

Keen really should add me into the game as Foe variety

[signal ocean]

morning

[quasi saffron]

Morning CUB. Whats for breakfast

[quiet geyser]

uh.. i wanna say your mom but that is just rude

[quasi saffron]

That was quite a strange transition? Also please don't talk about the dead... In that way.

[signal ocean]

u know it girl

[quiet geyser]

Toast?

[signal ocean]

no biscuits

toast takes too long to prep

[quiet geyser]

well if we talking French toast

[quasi saffron]

Wrong pronouns.

Also I ain't Mama Kira.

[quiet geyser]

Ye cub how dare you miss pronouns people ...

[quasi saffron]

We should start talking and asking about the things CUB does not want to talk about. 👀

[quiet geyser]

You never seen him mad..

[hardy kindle]

Good morning!

[quiet geyser]

nice frog is online

[quasi saffron]

Time to eat a cupcake

[quiet geyser]

Based

Best breakfast is none

Best breakfast is a warm dish youd eat for dinner

[quasi saffron]

Brands don't eat.
Well except our cookies/biscuits as he calls em

[signal ocean]

quiche would be a bit too hearty of a breakfast for me

[quiet geyser]

Nah trust me, itll make your experience of life better.

[signal ocean]

I don't think I'm ready to commit

[quiet geyser]

Understandable

[quasi saffron]

Hey CUB.

Will we draw patchnotes numbers as the last times or not.

[vapid canopy]

Hi ya Cub

[signal ocean]

not this time I don't think

[quasi saffron]

Awww.

[vapid canopy]

How ya doing today?

[signal ocean]

it's my last day of the week and the next time I'm back we're shipping update 3 soooo

busy busy

[viscid bluff]

very excited for it

[signal ocean]

good

[carmine scroll]

You could hold off another 2 weeks on update 3 if you need to. no need to rush it out. i can wait. ❤️

[nimble acorn]

any news one whatelse is coming to the update besides the armor displays? Im sorry if people already asked this

[subtle prawn]

Difficulty Settings and Armor stands nothing more is known

[tame seal]

'Nothing more is known to the public' 😄

[subtle prawn]

People are so impatiant ^^ Only gotta wait till Monday

[tame seal]

That's something that'll never change ^^

[carmine scroll]

i dont know why people keep asking that.

no. obviously we dont know more.

[viscid bluff]

patience is a virtue most dont have

[carmine scroll]

true

the update can wait another month for all i care.

im just mad about peaceful acres.

[viscid bluff]

so rebuild it lol

restore its glory

[carmine scroll]

how? i got a memory like a rusty tin trap

[viscid bluff]

that, i don't know

[carmine scroll]

exactly

why even change it?

[viscid bluff]

that, i don't now either lol

[tame seal]

Why not change it?

[carmine scroll]

why fix what isnt broken

[tame seal]

If things don't change they become stale and die.

[quasi saffron]

Why broke what isn't fixed

[carmine scroll]

break*

[carmine scroll]

so do you reguarly tear down your upstairs and rebuild it? leave the house alone!

[tame seal]

No, of course not, but if you don't maintain (As in change/fix) the house will fall down itself in time 😛

[quasi saffron]

I mean it.
I stay with what my phone corrected wrong.
Even if that means I'll go to the bench

[tame seal]

Own your mistakes, don't fear them!

[quasi saffron]

I just flip the stairs around if I feel like it.

[west root]

same update on peaceful acres as the fort kelvin ?

[terse meadow]

time to drop all my games and prepare for Enshrouded

[quasi saffron]

Well... Let's see what the Update got.
I'm a little bit worried that we first got told its taking longer this update and now it comes out on monday.

[viscid bluff]

stay optimistic

[quasi saffron]

How.
How should I stay optimistic.
There was no, absolutely no coin in these teasers

[tame seal]

The coin is a lie.

[quasi saffron]

CUB doesn't even tell us if he met an Olympic athlete

[elder parrot]

It will prolly be diff settings and stands, some optimization and a smol surprise

• but keep in mind they have been and are working on the big land expansions and such meanwhile ^^

Every update wont add 100 hours gameplay ^^

[gentle forum]

🤔🤔🤔🤔

[quasi saffron]

Unplayable /s

[gentle forum]

Update looks good from what I’ve seen.

It’s got stuff in it

And things

[quasi saffron]

Now I wonder if you were the Mod with the good or bad eyes. 👀

[gentle forum]

Who says mods have bad eyes

I’ll bite them

[nimble acorn]

no need for people to be rude about it. Alot of games tell people more info before an update to get them excited to play so i just asked a question haha calm down

[gentle forum]

They normally tease a few things from the update, after that you’ll need to wait for the update to drop and read patch notes/play it.

There’s some decent stuff in this update I think folks will be happy with it.

[nimble acorn]

thank you. i wasnt sure how they did update teases. Im used to most games dropping most of the update a few days or a week before to get people hyped

[tame seal]

You do? What games do this? I cant think of any game that drops more than just teasers of the updates before the updates. o.O

[quasi saffron]

World of Warcraft for example is mostly fully known by the point it releases.
But other games uh...
I think that depends

[warm flume]

Trying to decipher the next update and I kinda hope it's more than poses for our racked armor sets haha

[tame seal]

Things like warcraft have test builds out long before public release, which is the reason they are 'known' mostly before they get released.

[quasi saffron]

Nono. You can even pin armor onto that racks

[quasi saffron]

For people to break it, don't tell anyone and abuse that knowledge at the full release.
Or Activision ignoring the feedback, whatever it is

[tame seal]

I more mean, the changes are mostly playable in some fashion when they're known about 😄

I spent plenty of time on the PTR running around with an over powered character because they were testing new dungeons or world bosses 😄

[nimble acorn]

Well obviously they dont tell you everything but alot of different games give you descent info. maybe not all. So i jsut asked the question in case i missed some update. Giving more info but leaving some stuff a mystery is just a common sales strategy to get people hyped to play. I only saw the armor display stuff and nothing else so i wanted to see if they gave any more info. And now i know about the sliders for settings

[warm flume]

The answer to balance during early access is to just let the player make their own lol

[magic igloo]

yes

[gentle forum]

If devs let the players make games I feel like 90% of games would be terrible.

[warm flume]

spending too much time balancing during EA is a waste. As soon as they add a few mechanics and enemies which causes re balance after re balance. Sure get a basic early game balance in there. But real balance can only happen after the game has its fundamentals in

90% of my library is EAs. I've seen so many push out "balance updates" just for it to entirely get thrown out next content patch then they spend so much time balancing that till next content patch. Rinse and repeat. Just add the content then balance it

This rule applies to everything except Colony Sims.... if you release an EA and the economy is just totally off that's gonna look bad. Possibly one more genre exception I can't think of atm

[lament monolith]

icarus, grounded, conan exiles, ark .........the list goes on

[tame seal]

They give near full patch notes before the patch is released? The only of those i've played is Ark and i cant remember them doing that, but i'm open to the posibility of being wrong.

[magic igloo]

yes

[lament monolith]

Ok so not ark sorry I am in an advanced testing thing with wildcard so I get full notes. the others though yes

[tame seal]

Given that reply, i'd request being shown this next time patches for any of those come out, simply so i can see, but we'll all have forgotten this conversation by then so it really doesn't matter 😄

[lament monolith]

I will totaly link icarus patch notes lol just not ark there is an NDA involved

[tame seal]

Of course, anything NDA is not pertinent to this discussion anyway ^^

[lament monolith]

now very important update related question. Are we getting pet squirrels?

[terse meadow]

😂

[tame seal]

All the squirrels

[carmine scroll]

what was fort jelvin and what did they do to it?
shame theyre not more clear about the chsnges they make. i wss in fpr a shock when i needed more clay but i found where they put a new one thank goodmess.

this just pushes me to resource servers i guess.

[magic sable]

Having worked on teams that did precisely that…. You are correct 😂

[gentle forum]

The customer is always wrong

[magic sable]

They just have a habit of only concentrating on how THEY play with no regard for others

[gentle forum]

Or wants the cheapest solution even when it’s explained that it’s either temporary or not quite sufficient

I think I’m projecting about my current job right now though

[carmine scroll]

how dare you say something so true!

[gentle forum]

https://tenor.com/view/hes-telling-the-truth-its-true-tho-jonah-a-veggie-tales-movie-larry-the-cucumber-bob-the-tomato-gif-16996124

[carmine scroll]

anyway i just want the old buildings back! 😛

[quasi saffron]

I have to say...
No. Not the customer.
The hooman.

[gentle forum]

Idk I’ve seen dogs as customers and they can be wrong too

[quasi saffron]

No my dog knows exactly what she wants.
Balls

[gentle forum]

Where ? Where ? Where ?

[quasi saffron]

I buried them
Or they're brooding for a plan

[gentle forum]

You gonna play enshrouded on EZ mode on Monday?

[quasi saffron]

Doesn't matter. Back to taking a photo tour of the features of the site.

[terse meadow]

they said they are busy and stressed

[gentle forum]

Gamescom and probably prep for Monday update

[quasi saffron]

Actually it'd be allowed to be a little bit more challenging.

[ashen fable]

Hey, did someone know why can't i craft a better backpack than the smaller one ? i'm lvl 25, I have leather, and craft unlocked, but it's impossible to find it somewhere

[quasi saffron]

Have u found the bard

in the Blackmire

[crude hill]

https://enshrouded.wiki.gg/wiki/Backpacks

[quasi saffron]

A bot does not think

[ashen fable]

I need to find it ?

I didn't actually, the placement seems out of the map

[gentle forum]

You need the Bard NPC to craft better backpacks.

[ashen fable]

I'll go find it

[gentle forum]

Yep yep. The Flame should have a quest to send you there (I think it’s level 12 or so)

[quasi saffron]

Small detail: It'd send you on a quest if you were not to find something at least.

[west root]

Well fort kelvin was 3-4 destroyed building and now is a real reinforced town with sewer so well build you can nearly crossed the ninja turtle.
But it was not announced and it ruined my main based when i reconnected after the update.
It was still worth it to renew a server for it. I just hope i wont do it each new update.

[elfin needle]

are we going to see a patch preview this week till official release? 🙂

[quasi saffron]

I doubt that. Monday will come soon enough

[elfin needle]

fair enough

[tame seal]

I mean, i understand the frustration, but when you're building around dedicated structures in an early access game, there's always a certain amount of risk.

[rose lake]

anyone want to come help me get some mining done?

or someone got an extra Iron pick and ax

[quasi saffron]

I'll help, but we make 30/70 okay? You get 30%

[elfin needle]

😄

[quasi saffron]

[rose lake]

ill just do it on my own in that case

[carmine scroll]

ah i see. i may need to check thst out then

[quasi saffron]

I mean, you'll surely have some friends you can oppress errr I mean enslave dammit, can someone help me out with an appropiate term?

[carmine scroll]

internship

im just mad i didnt flame altar peaceful pastures BEFORE they changed it to a lamer design.

[tame seal]

I don't think it would have mattered, their changes will normally supersede any flames 😄

[carmine scroll]

i may still use it IF we get 20 flame alters but. i dunno....

i thought it wpuld be fine if the flame altar was there?

[tame seal]

If that were the case, then peoples bases wouldn't be 'ruined' when they changed towns/villages etc.

[quasi saffron]

Inside flame altars everything stays the same

but walls may appear on your borders, thats more what is disturbing

I mean, ever left your door only to run into a wall?

[tame seal]

Is that really all that changes? The complaints i've seen make it sound like they have entire building appearing through whatever they've built 😄

[quasi saffron]

I mean, isn't that the case?

[tame seal]

Not really if the changes are outside the build area...

[quasi saffron]

If the area got changed entirely they'll find themselves into the midst of a new town

Or even buried underneath

[gentle forum]

Van when release happens I want a playthrough from you being a mole man.

As soon as you have the opportunity you go underground and travel only underground if possible

[quasi saffron]

Deadly Shroud will have a word with me then

[west root]

Well for me as i brough it to the table. I notice half cut building around my 160x160 base. Meaning new building were add at this location.
My base was not exploded but it basically mean 2 things : 1 i had not the final version of this place and i would renew differently with all the information or not coming at all.
2 i miss thoses information, building idea and stuff to acquired during my journey in the world as they 'll never appear with my altar on it. And guess what, music roll.

So here, it's a completly useless thing serving only as a bonus in the adventur and won't block me from beating the end game.
But imagine if there is a new quest for NPC and station craft... more problematic.
And still i love to acquird every different piece of equipement and bonus to finish the game at 100%.

[elder parrot]

Now you leaked the whole changelog basically!

^^

I was sorta expecting stuff, but that there will be things aswell, thats insane ^^

[gentle forum]

https://tenor.com/view/little-mermaid-ariel-pizza-wonderful-pizza-is-life-gif-3549019

[quasi saffron]

Uhm, Ellis... I'm sorry but I burnt another Vukah hut

[tame seal]

Oh entirely, that's what i mean with 'its still early access' things are bound to change.

1. Do you want them to list each and every building with every change they're going to make so you know where you can and cant build? Subsequently meaning they cant have new ideas for area's because they've already told people what's going to be where?
2. I have no idea how long before the patch you personally have built where you built, but what difference would it make, once you've built your area, if they tell you a day, week, year or on the day of patch that they are changing the location you've built? Either way you'll be upset because they're changing it.

Don't get me wrong, i whole heartedly understand the frustration with things changing once you've build up your base/town/whatever, as said though, the game is still in development, ANYTHING we do in the game, whilst they've said they don't intent on making people start over/change/move/whatever, they will never rule out the possibility.
Ultimately you play games in this state of development with the full understanding that what you have/what you've achieved can potentially be wiped out without a single word of warning or prior notification.

As for the NPC's and chest that spawn in that area? You're only able to effectively build in that area because things don't respawn, you cant have the cake AND eat it all the time. Personal suggestion? Stay away from game made assets until full release if you're that quickly frustrated by changes. That's just my two pence though.

Apologies for the wall....

[elder parrot]

Just. Do not. Build something massive that you think will remain, until EA is over.

See everything as a temporary early test.

[gentle forum]

I’m gonna build something massive that could be destroyed and then complain about it anyways

[tame seal]

Yea but lets be fair... you're a very special case.

[gentle forum]

(Though most places won’t be overridden by new generation)

[elder parrot]

I will tempban you with my powers of... of... gah ^^

Most can be safe, just dont place bets yeah - nothing shall stop progress and iteration ^^

[floral helm]

Bippity Boppity Boo.

[raw wave]

afternoon

[tame seal]

It's the flame! Save yourselves!

[elder parrot]

Noon' ^^

[gentle forum]

It’s 10am here

[tame seal]

Nearly evening here....

[elder parrot]

Im rolled up in mire mud, im safe ^^

[tame seal]

Okay people... what time do you consider to be evening?

[elder parrot]

Its 17.18 here

[finite nymph]

The Flame?

[gentle forum]

Your time zone is fake

[quasi saffron]

17:18 also here

[elder parrot]

Evening is 17 and onwards to me ^^

[finite nymph]

17:18

[quasi saffron]

Evening is when I sleep

[raw wave]

16:18 here

[gentle forum]

Time travelers

[lament monolith]

10 AM

[tame seal]

That's not evening, that's night.

[gentle forum]

Imagine being in a time zone where the difference is only 30 minutes and not a full hour

[gentle forum]

The flame

[quasi saffron]

Well I got it 17:19 now and will go to sleep in half an hour.

[tame seal]

Le gasp!

[gentle forum]

That’s early

[quasi saffron]

For 2 hours, beauty sleep.

[gentle forum]

You’ll need more than that

[tame seal]

A nap.

[quasi saffron]

But you said thats evening then. Who's wrong now.

[lament monolith]

I get to listen to people complain about quickboks all day. I just want to play!!!

[tame seal]

Neither of us are wrong. My assumtion was wrong, which fits with the ultimate saying.

[quasi saffron]

I sleep 3-4 times a day.

Now make your choice.

[tame seal]

How do you have time to sleep 3 - 4 times a day?!

[west root]

it actually happend twice. once with the dragon cave and my first big build into the pillar of creation and once with the fort kelvin.
but no i don't want the dev being handcuffed, i want them to improve their game in every possible way.
but thoses 2 time it happend i asked on the discord what's new to thoses places, trying to avoid the situation to creating a new base from 0.
So what i desire it's the announce in the patch note with "this place as been reworded" so we know there is something new and we can be impacted. Understand me : if a rock was added on the hills... i don't care. but in the case of fort kevil or the bridge in the first area it's pretty big news.
and you mentionned it's an early access, meaning every point in the map can be changed befor the 1.0. so it's not a big spoil if the patch note mentionned this change.

[quasi saffron]

It's called work.

[tame seal]

Precisely, you only care about what's going to affect you. With everything in any game SOMETHING they change is always going to affect someone. In order to fulfil your request and fulfil it for their entire player base, they'd literally have to list every rock (block) they change in order to accomplish this... does that really seem feasible?

[elder parrot]

People would 'book' and hold every piece of land, which would be horrid

Nothing changeable

[west root]

i don't think so. the part of the world reworked are specific and done only 2 time since release. 3 time when monday update dropped.
and once again, you can filter the information : when there is no unique item in the place reworked, you are free to not announced it for example.

[quasi saffron]

Eh... There were several places reworked

Even some without anything special

[west root]

yes but it dropped only with the update. so 2 or 3 times

[tame seal]

Okay.... i have 3 or 4 actual builds... one of my builds i made into the side of a hill, which i'm sure many have done similar... In the middle of noewhere (seemingly) It turns out, the HH update put the Nomad Highlands HH directly beneath where i built. If i had built much lower, i would have intersected the HH.... should they have told us the exact spots they were building the HH even though there was nothing of consequence in that area to start with?

[quasi saffron]

My GF happened to restore the town that was before empty, now full of bandits

Also next to the HH

[west root]

well no. as i mentionned, but i know i'm not clear. my english is a bit crappy.

[tame seal]

My point being, in order to do as you'd like, they'd have to inform of every single change no matter how small, because it will always affect someone, no matter if there was 'something' there to start with or not.

[west root]

TBH, i don't build into village and town for now, i had 2 bad interaction with the update. i don't want a third.

i'm agree with that

[tame seal]

Especially in a game where the building freedom is so vast.

That is the one thing i'd recommend, but even that's not a guarantee, as i said above with one of my own builds. Until they've 'finished' the game, nothing is technically safe from change ^^

[west root]

the thing is , on discord or when you contact people knowing what's add on thoses places, they can answer, so i don't have to erase my base to see if there is a new unique item beneath my base

and at thoses times, no one said anything

[quasi saffron]

I know one location that won't change much for sure!

[tame seal]

There are many reasons for not divulging such things, those that do know are probably under NDA's, those that REALLY know would never get any work done if they had to answer every question a community threw at them 😄

[west root]

so either mentionned it on the on the patch note or help people seeking the information. it's not like i asked "where is the "insert new item" from the update"

[tame seal]

Okay, lets say you ask 'Are there changes with Fort Kelvin' Someone replies yes. What do you do next?

[quasi saffron]

Wondering why I see cut buildings everywhere around

[west root]

i wouldn't ask like this. more like "is there anything important in fort kelvin since my base is on it".
someone say yes, then i know it's worth to relocate my base.

[tame seal]

What is important?