the-tavern

[sturdy patio]

Yeah I know right! Back in my day we actually had to go meet people and do stuff outside! Imagine that

I got my first Commodore 64 at age 5 in 1983 and a pat on the back and a "good luck!" from my step dad. Learned how to code with BASIC, been doing it ever since.

[ashen crypt]

wow nice!

[rocky kettle]

why is it that when people have a Q&A with the devs. there is always someone that sucks up and sings praises like it has any constructive value to the point of a Q&A? it stands for questions and answers, not brown nose and distraction. its disappointing that people would use that kind of time that the devs are gracious enough give to the public their time that they would try to gain some kind of gratification by having a "thank you for enjoying the game." it happens with every single Q&A and that I hope that devs would one day just say, "before we begin, we would like to ask that people hold back and praises and thank you's so that we can remain objective to those who want to know about what direction the game is going, if there are any secrets not found yet. if there is going to be combat changes... etc. and we will not be responding to anything that isn't a question."

[vapid canopy]

has one of those too around 86/87

also the internet did exist in the 80's it was primary at college campuses but by the late 80s the public had access to it. in those early days it was mostly the earliest form of message boards/forms.

[sturdy patio]

I still got my C64, and it still runs! I booted it up and showed my kids last year and they were like "Ewww what's that monstrosity? Take it away!"

I guess C64 games just don't compare to what they play now, like Enshrouded.

Hethens

[brittle iron]

You probably had to be there

[ashen crypt]

PONG /nods

[rocky kettle]

at least you didn't show them ET

[brittle iron]

Earliest game i remember is Breakout I think

[sturdy patio]

Nah I'm not about to abuse my own children.

[ashen crypt]

Jaws!

[vapid canopy]

ah yes; nothing better than being 5 and not knowing what dysentery was.

[sturdy patio]

😄

[rocky kettle]

there was also a VR before VR for the nintendo that made your eyes want to gouge themselves out of your head back in the 1990s

[sturdy patio]

You mean like VR today then? 😂

[vapid canopy]

I just remember being mad at some dude named terry killin off my wagon members

[rocky kettle]

yeah that one is before my time man

[sturdy patio]

Do you have kids? Did you have them watch Jaws when they were like 4 and 10? 😄

Or Alien maybe, that's a good one too

Deer hunter

Predator

All the good ones

[rocky kettle]

commander keen

cosmos adventure

[sturdy patio]

Wow Commander Keen! Those were the days!

[ashen crypt]

My son is 16. He is a computer geek.. making him watch a movie is 2 hours less of his life coding cheats for his current fave game.. or playing with his buddies and trying to come up with new ways to game the system =p

[sturdy patio]

Aww, don't do that! We need people to code cheats for our current fav games! Rude

[ashen crypt]

LOL

[sturdy patio]

And yes, but did you show Jaws to him when he was 5? 🤣

[rocky kettle]

isn't jaws one of those movies that the production of the movie actually claimed a life while off cam? I think i remember one of the divers that was working on the shark was crushed by it mid maintenance.

[native parrot]

To get him ready for swimming lessons int he ocean. Duh

[scarlet thicket]

The Crow, is also one.

[rocky kettle]

never watched the crow but yeah, thats disappointing that safety wasn't as respected back then as it is now. cough cough, resident evil, hangover 2....

[astral hull]

But it made for great immersive experiences

[sturdy patio]

Alec Baldwin might disagree with all that safety baloney 🙄

[scarlet thicket]

Saftey actually seemed way higher back in the day to be honest. The only time someone died during a movie it seems was intentional. thats my opinion honestly. The Crow, and Alec Baldwin yeah, those seem so fishy to me.

Especially Brandon Lee, that poor guy.

[sturdy patio]

Can't remember what happened to Brandon Lee actually

[scarlet thicket]

"The film crew was impressed with his performance and dedication. On March 31, 1993, while filming The Crow, Lee died from a wound on set, caused by a firearm malfunction; the lead tip of a bullet from a previous scene had stayed in the barrel of a handgun and ruptured a major blood vessel when a blank was shot at Lee."

[sturdy patio]

Ooof 😬

[scarlet thicket]

That seems super weird to me. Throughout the the history of weapons experience and training especially in guns, i have never ever ever heard of any gun doing that whatsoever unless you shove it in the barrel yourself.

[astral hull]

Tragic

[scarlet thicket]

yeah it's just the weirdest thing i ever heard lol

[sturdy patio]

From one thing to another, pro tip (that most people probably already know, but it was an Eureka moment for an old fart like me!): When doing the Kindlewastes Halls, bring the T1 glider! What a difference that made! Super easy with that instead of the ghost glider.

My old man reaction times were laughing all the way to the bottom.

[brittle iron]

I thought it was easier with the Ghost Glider.. D:

[scarlet thicket]

And if that doesn't help, use nvidia control panel to cap the frames to 5fps.

[brittle iron]

Matter of personal taste I guess

[sturdy patio]

I just kept crashing left and right 😄

[astral hull]

Extraordinary works best imo

[sturdy patio]

Gonna try that next then!

Ghost glider is awesome, but not in there, atleast not for me haha

[scarlet thicket]

Flying through it at 5FPS enabled me to find many hidden chests ON the way down as you are flying.

[sturdy patio]

Dying in a lot of very inconvenient places so I had to land everywhere to recover my loot did the same for me 🤣

[vapid canopy]

it was a squib round. when the blank was loaded and fired, the force was enough to project the lead tip forward.

[scarlet thicket]

Yes but the idea that it can get left behind is amazing. Firing a blank the first time will actually exert air and or pressure through the barrel ejecting anything in it regardless. The fact that it still had something inside of the barrel is extremely questionable. (this is actually why the case was re-opened recently)

[native parrot]

I feel like calling someone a squib round now

For someone who accidentally gets the job done right

But in the wrong way

[brittle iron]

Squib is an actual word? I just know it from harry potter

[vapid canopy]

yeah

[scarlet thicket]

Bruce Lee's case was also re-opened. They believe Bruce Lee', and his Heir, Brand Lee, were both murdered.

[native parrot]

Many things are words

I like studying words

[brittle iron]

truu 🙏 🔥

[native parrot]

Specifically the origin and core definitions

[vapid canopy]

"squib" also has lead-fouling is an actual word.

[sturdy patio]

"A squib load, also known as a squib round, pop and no kick, or just a squib, is a firearm malfunction in which a fired projectile does not have enough force behind it to exit the barrel, and thus becomes stuck. "

[scarlet thicket]

Considering the English language is actually Created from slang, that technically means that anything you make up, if it is then as such used by one or more persons in any context, it is now a word.

[native parrot]

Pop and no kick
Sounds like a failed skateboard move XD

[scarlet thicket]

Aka, say a word, if its fake and someone repeats it, it is now a word because it has been used by others.

[brittle iron]

180 pop shove it to squib round

even Rodney Mullen would've struggled with that combo

[sturdy patio]

Lol

[scarlet thicket]

Every time i see "ZEN" in a name or any context, i always think of popcap games and Bejeweled.

I love bejeweled 3 and i can't get it to work any more 😦

[native parrot]

Also a quip is a fast comment.
So every quip might be met with a squib

[brittle iron]

First plants vs zombies was pretty fire

[native parrot]

I am, regrettably. Not a popcap

[rocky kettle]

oh that was just a hat trick of failure. how anyone thought that having a gun prop ever have any real bullets in there at any point was a good idea. those things should have been stored in an orange case, locked away with a sign that said movie prop dont load with real bullets. and instead they decided to shoot bottles before a movie shoot. why it wasn't inspected by alec was his failure, why the directer wasn't saying at no point does that get pointed at anyone and why were real bullets on set in the first place. so many people should have been an accessory to that incident.

[scarlet thicket]

This is why i believe it was intentional.... and the fact is, this was in recent times where everything was recorded and many whitnesses saw everything and came forward. What happened with Brandon Lee though... no one really said shishkabob

its sad

[rocky kettle]

thats dark my dude. accurate. but dark

[brittle iron]

Never attribute to malice which can adequately be explained by incompetence :P

[limber tinsel]

hello

where can i post pictures

of a weapon

[sturdy patio]

Enshrouded weapon? Is it broken or?

[limber tinsel]

enshrouded weapon

[sturdy patio]

#screenshots-and-art maybe?

#enshrouded-chat

[limber tinsel]

oh im blind thanks

[scarlet thicket]

Very good statement. So even if no malace, incompetence would lead to manslaughter charges but no one in brandon lee's case is facing that.

[sturdy patio]

Almost Hanlon's Razor there! 👍

[brittle iron]

Yeah, did not remember the exact quote lmao

[sturdy patio]

I think it ends in "stupidity" and not "incompetence"

Same thing though, really

[scarlet thicket]

If we delve into those words, Technically speaking Einstein was "Incompetent" on every experiement he did. The reason for, is because they are first time experiements and no one had skill and or training in them. But Einstein was not stupid as he did class as the higher intelligence.

[sturdy patio]

So many razors in philosophy. I wonder why? Ockham's razor, Hanlon's Razor, Hitchen's razor, even Einstein's razor.

[brittle iron]

Yeah kinda curious considering they mostly had beards or bad shaves

[brittle iron]

Hmm, imo incompetent is a word that's difficult to apply to groundbreaking research anyway but i get your point

[sturdy patio]

The real problem for Einstein was that he didn't have the tech to test his theories, like we have today. Like LIGO, CERN and JWST/Hubble etc. Considering that, it's pretty impressive that he turns out to be accurate time and time again in our modern times.

It's almost like he knew stuff or something 😄

[scarlet thicket]

Yeah exactly, thus all Experiments even if we have the tech are technicaly incompetencies due to the fact, we don't know what will happen so how can we have the skill for the unknown?

I promise one day i'll grow another hand and i'll be able to type correctly. LOL

[sturdy patio]

You don't think having three hands would exacerbate the problem instead? 😄

[scarlet thicket]

I have only but one. Having two would mean i could type and function much better. Three would mean i'm single for life.

[sturdy patio]

Aha, that makes more sense then! But the core reasoning is still sound I think. Since you only have one, and are used to that, you don't think another one would complicate matters, instead of improving them? 🙂 I can imagine the same if you're used to a prostetic leg, and suddenly it grows back after 20 years or whatever, I think you would stumble around like an infant for a while before you get your bearings back.

[scarlet thicket]

i had only four fingers on my hand because the 5th one was lost and they regrew it on my leg and then now i have five fingers. After waking up i was able to instantly move the finger and it felt and hurt like i never lost it. LOL nerves are weird and amazing at the same time (not everyone has the same experience. i do not recommend losing hands and or limbs).

[sturdy patio]

Yeah I can imagine reattaching a finger like that would be a shock to the nerve system and cause all kinds of trouble. It's working good now though?

[scarlet thicket]

it worked the moment it was attached (and i woke up) they typically put people to sleep during this so when they wake up and they start moving the hand and or fingers they move naturally with in stinct. yeah Finger works great thank you. i hope to soon get a new hand for the one i don't have that is built from vast AI so that the AI works and thinks with my brain to be used.

This will mean, if i choke someone out with my robotic hand it is not my fault and the Ai did it. LOL i'm kidding im kidding

[sturdy patio]

If you can blame it on the AI, that's always the way to go imo 😄 Good luck with that whole thing, I'm sure it's gonna be amazing to get the hand back one way or another.
May I ask what happened to your old one, or were you born without it?

[scarlet thicket]

As a child, not all rocks you find on the ground are rocks. Some of them are old ordinance. ;/

[sturdy patio]

Oh snap! Sorry you had to go through that 😦

Glad you survived though, sheesh

[scarlet thicket]

lol yeah me to trust me hahaha

It's all good, i don't even remember it at all. I just remember waking up, going to play outside then waking up again across town in the ER.

[sturdy patio]

How many years ago was this? That you lost the hand? I bet it's going to be wild when you get your shiny new AI hand!

[scarlet thicket]

I was only dreaming about the Ai hand lol. i'm broke as a joke and that costs bajillions. This was about 35 years ago i lost it.

[sturdy patio]

I don't know how fancy it is, but I have a coworker who lost his left arm at the elbow in a mining accident, and he's got some kind of robotic prostetic, and it's working really well. It has very high dexterity and he's back to blasting rock, just like he was before.

[scarlet thicket]

Yeah no, i'm broke and have been forever. All nubs here.

[sturdy patio]

Where I live, in Sweden, things like that would be taken care of by the government. We have free healthcare, and if we need a prosthetic it's also free of charge. Other countries have insurances, or maybe there's a charity organization you can turn to to finance it or something? Plenty of those around that help amputees.

[scarlet thicket]

When you don't have hand, you can still like think about moving fingers on the hand you don't have and your brain kinda imagines you are and its pretty weird. It's also frustrating and saddening at the same time becaues naturally your brain still think you have the hand, even 35 years later.

But that is also a good thing because when you do get a new one, it will work.

[vapid canopy]

oh his nerves were in good enough shape to be rerouted for that, Andreas

[scarlet thicket]

If they aren't, they dig deeper to find working nerves and build and adjust the hand / arm as necessary.

[vapid canopy]

yep

[sturdy patio]

I never did ask him how his arm works now that I think about it. I've just seen him going about his business normally. But now that you mention that, I'm gonna ask him tomorrow how that thing actually works. Super interesting.

[scarlet thicket]

That would super epic if you did ask and letting us know the response.

That is super useful information to me honestly.

[sturdy patio]

I will absolutely do that, 100%

[vapid canopy]

the arm has sensors that read the various muscle twitches, nerve signals.

[scarlet thicket]

I want the terminator hand with a fake gooey plasmic hand so i can pull it off and freak people out just like in Terminator 2.

[sturdy patio]

I know he's on his second version of his prostetic, because the first one wastn't really good. He had his accident maybe 10 years ago or so, and got his first one maybe 2-3 years later. I remember him coming to work and being pissed about how shitty it was. A couple of years ago he got his new one, and it's like night and day difference, and he's very happy with the one he has now. Can rotate the wrist 360 degrees too. Freaky, but it's a nice party trick.

[sturdy patio]

I'm 100% on board with you on this one haha

[scarlet thicket]

LOL right!? I think that movie was a huge inspiration to all of us and those who are just missing an arm.

[sturdy patio]

"just" missing an arm, dude 🙂

And I have to say, that for a one-handed person, you sure type pretty fast, which I find myself impressed by!

[scarlet thicket]

Wow they can rotat 360 degrees? thats super insane.

[sturdy patio]

I don't know if they all can, but his does.

Or maybe it's like 350 degrees, because it can't keep spinning around.

[scarlet thicket]

Wellllll i don't type fast at all, my text just appears fast to you. I do have a cheat keyboard lol. I can type many words at the same time or simply click on the whole words i wanna use as i start typing in abrieviations.

[sturdy patio]

That's pretty cool though, that you have tools like that to make it happen.

[scarlet thicket]

https://www.boundlessat.com/Keyboards-Mice/One-Hand-Keyboards/Maltron-Single-Hand-Keyboard

Yeahhhhhhhhhhhh, expensive stuff for not that good of a turn out

[sturdy patio]

Oh wow I have actually seen a keyboard just like that, that a podcaster I used to listen to/watch had. Never did it occur to me that that was what it was (this person has two hands). Sadly he's not podcasting anymore 😦

$555 sheesh. Yeah that's expensive

[scarlet thicket]

Yeah... thats now. When things are newer they cost even more.

OH here is the irony of using these kinds of keyboards.

I have been banned from TONS of FP shooters LOL. I had to email the support team and they actually asked me to send pictures for medical proof (which in america thats actually illegal to ask for) and support would never ever unban me from them. I usually end up have to actually email the company itself to further look into it and send them the keyboard model that i would be using. Most of the time this took months so i stopped playing FPS games.

I guess in FPS games you're not allowed to use one hand to keyboard and your mouth to point.

[sturdy patio]

I don't know if I agree with that. I used to watch a streamer that was paralyzed from his neck down, who played CoD with his mouth, and he was killing it.

RockyNoHands or something

[rocky kettle]

dude, that sucks that you have go through that though.

[sturdy patio]

Absolutely 💯

[cunning basin]

but how would they even know about it?

[scarlet thicket]

Yes, i have too, but lets imagine what they had to go through to get to that point and all the anti cheat software banning them for weird devices.

[sturdy patio]

Yeah. From my viewpoint, that only goes to show how ignorant game developers can be, and not take things like this in to concideration.

[scarlet thicket]

When you play an FPS, they use these anticheat programs to scan your memory and attached devices. Some of the devices they detect could be considered methods to cheat.

[sturdy patio]

Really sucks that you got to a point where you didn't want to play FPS games anymore though. Sorry to hear that 😦

[scarlet thicket]

Yeah its hard though to keep up with ALL the devices used. Game companies arent medical companies so they arent really obligated to keep up with all the Device ID's and what not and new devices that get released.

Back in the day there was a controller that was meant for the game "Forsaken" and you could use this controler to help fly? it had like a giant orb on it? If you plug that into your computer now, that controller won't simply work. There isn't even a generic driver available that we could find lol.

[sturdy patio]

In my opinion, and automatic anti-cheat should work the other way around. They should keep track of known devices and flag those. Not flag any unknown device. If that's a system a dev would want to use, then the responsibility of research, and in fact keeping up with malicious devices would, in fact, be laid in the lap of the developer.

Just outright banning anything unknown because they don't want to keep up with things like this is the wrong path to walk if you ask me.

[scarlet thicket]

That is the wrong path LOL yeah i agree 100%. I think it's automated though. i think the system does it automatically when it doens't like something. i honestly have no idea i'm no dev but i know its super annoying and i don't play FPS games because of it.

Every time one gets released it always happens and by the time i get unbanned its already like 3-4 months later and then well all the hype of the new game that just released is gone.

[sturdy patio]

That does sound pretty rotten, and I understand your frustration with it. Sorry to hear it though. Gaming shouldn't be locked behind what some automated anti-cheat thinks is legit or not, it should be down to developers to keep track of things.

[scarlet thicket]

I got banned from Desinty 2, Helldivers 2, Call of duty BO 2 and many many others.

Imagine a small team like the one who does Valheim trying to code all the medical devices into their game so people don't get banned by an anticheat If it existed.

This is where the problem starts.

[sturdy patio]

My thinking here is like in law practice I guess. "Innocent until proven guilty" kind of deal

What anti-cheat seems to be doing to you, and others, is assuming you're all guilty, until YOU can prove otherwise, which is extremely stupid in my mind.

[rocky kettle]

when you play games with easy anticheat, you pretty much give the program the ability to access your entire computer. its advertised to disallow players to use third party software for the intended game and will detect what hardware players are using including what usb or serial coded mouse and keyboard you are using. even your head set can be detected by it if it has some kind of serial code like razor or sony would. having an off brand keyboard might alert the program and cause it to flag you as a cheater.

[scarlet thicket]

Thank you for that. That was super detailed and provided clarity.

[rocky kettle]

no problemmo.

[sturdy patio]

Hold up, I accidently sneezed a half glass of orange juice all over my screen! 🤣

[native parrot]

...aaaaand your guilty.

[rocky kettle]

easy way to enjoy gaming. dont get games with easy anticheat or battle net or any of those suspiciously invasive programs that you cant turn off. they slow down performance as they are always doing sanity checks, and there is nothing in the user agreements that stipulate that they cant just root around and dig up any intellectual property that is located elsewhere in the game making signing up for programs like easy anticheat very sussy for idea theft and targeted marketing data.

[sturdy patio]

Alright. Orange juice explosion fallout taken care of. And I agree 100% with what @rocky kettle just said. There's plenty of FPS games out there that do not use easy anti-cheat and sh*t like that that I'm sure you could enjoy alot @scarlet thicket

[scarlet thicket]

That is true, but FPS without anti cheat software is like.... i never ever get shot in the body, always 100% accurate shots in the head through walls.

[sturdy patio]

Stop using aimbots then 😉

And wallhacks

(j/k)

Oh you said YOU get shot, my bad

[scarlet thicket]

LOL thats what i'm saying, Thats what happens to me on less popular FPS titles. All the headshots i take and never a body shot.

[rocky kettle]

have you heard of the game gunz online?

[scarlet thicket]

Yes, i played that a long long long time ago. Jumping all over walls and etc etc was too much for me at the time.

[rocky kettle]

yeah its still playable. just go to their discord and download it there.

[sturdy patio]

Be glad you never tried Portal or Portal 2 then lol. That game mess up my mind

My son insists I play those with him, and it's just a mess in my head.

[rocky kettle]

haha may I turn your heads to Vade Retro: Exorcist if you thought you could get vertigo in a game before.

[sturdy patio]

I get vertigo from Enshrouded! Standing on top of the Dam and looking straight down in to the valley, sheesh 😵

[rocky kettle]

for those that haven't played or heard of GunZ online: international here is some footage. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gMPJ38mSkt0 yes its an old game.

[sturdy patio]

Old games, new games, doestn't matter to me as long as it's good. I recently played through Beyond Good and Evil 1 for the first time, and I loved it. Looking at that video now.

[rocky kettle]

I like that games developers are adopting more story focused experiences while also adopting a sand box style pacing and exploration. like horizon zero dawn, assassins creed, last of us, days gone. all great titles in my opinion. one is great in its own way and I hope enshrouded adopts a little something something from is Praey for the gods, and shadow of the colossus. because killing gigantic monsters is fun, only hitting them in the toes or shooting them, is not so much.

[sturdy patio]

The Wyvern and the Sicklescythe's are fun fights in Enshrouded in my opinion. Those roman legionary dudes with the big red two-handed scythes, and the berserkers with two acid blades too.

Things that kick your butt before you learn how to deal with them is excellent game design to me.

[sturdy patio]

I'm imagining this game to be a nightmare to get in to today, after all these years of people doing all those funky moves, and I also kind of fell out of favor for it when he said that you need to get in to the PTW things to get the best weapons to be top level competetive.

[rocky kettle]

oh, I was playing it 7 months ago and the servers had all the items available. funny enough, the really good players, dont even use the top level stuff. they rock level one items.

[viral scarab]

A lot of people hate the green axe dudes, but I find them to be a real challenge. It's not impossible to overcome and I want to see more difficult enemies like that. I think the reason they upset people is because it feels like you're dropping a Dark Souls enemy into Animal Crossing 😝

[rocky kettle]

the community that exists there. still honour bound bushido fanatics that still bow before attacking and such.

[sturdy patio]

100% with you on this one. I want more of this for sure.

[restive quarry]

Having a shield makes the dual wielding scavengers super easy

[sturdy patio]

I love them

[viral scarab]

I think the point is that you have to think about how you approach them. It's not a total face roll and some people just want to breeze through everything.

I love it when games make me think about stuff, but not everyone does

[sturdy patio]

I think this is why I love No Rest For The Wicked so much. You can't faceroll your way through it by any means.

[viral scarab]

Yeah, it's a good start. I'm looking forward to more from their early access

[rocky kettle]

thats accurate. holy crap thats accurate. i like it when there is an enemy that enters the stage and your heart drops because you just collected a cool item and now they are gonna make you have to run your kiester all the way back if you dont buckle down and give it your very best to kill them first.

[sturdy patio]

I was never a souls type game kind of person, but I really like some of the enemies in Enshrouded, that makes you think, and also ARPG's, which is why I hopped on the No Rest wagon, just to see what it was about, and It's awesome

[pliant quarry]

I'm glad to see No Rest for the Wicked seems to be doing a lot better now. It's such a cool project and it was a shame to see it have mixed reviews on launch day

[sturdy patio]

I think it got bad reviews from people who just want to faceroll stuff like in Diablo, and that's fine. Just a shame that the developer suffers from it.

[viral scarab]

Well, also apparently on day 1, the game was like... 75% more punishing and they did a hotfix to reduce durability loss by a ton

[pliant quarry]

I think it did have some major launch day issues, but they hotfixed the game like crazy

[viral scarab]

I picked it up on day 2 and it was great

[sturdy patio]

I think what Keen is doing with Enshrouded, and dropping some jerk of an enemy here and there is super nice! Keeps you on your toes, and I hope they put in more of them in the future 🙂

[sturdy patio]

Picked it up on day 1, and had the same experience, apart from som rendering lag that they've now fixed.

[rocky kettle]

honestly, I blame idle player mobile and free to play MMO games for the amount of negative feedback that games like enshrouded get these days. kids be like, "wait you have to move your character!? why doesn't it fight for me? why doesn't it farm for me? why do I have to complete the quests?"

[viral scarab]

Lol

[sturdy patio]

Pretty cool video @rocky kettle of that Gunz game. Can't believe I missed that when it was new 👀 . I was big into FPS games back then. But I stand by my assessment that it would probably be a nightmare to get in to today for a newbie

[sturdy patio]

Preach it brother

[pliant quarry]

idk I've tried playing the zoomer games and they're kind of brutal lol

fortnite players completely destroyed me

[viral scarab]

That's because they play for 8 hours a day

[rocky kettle]

its still got its own instanced dungeons for players that want to practice against non players if you want to give it a try.

[pliant quarry]

(once you get past all the bots the game throws at you for the first few dozen matches)

[viral scarab]

Sadly "adults with jobs queue" isn't a thing

[sturdy patio]

I'm too old now to master a thing like that. My reaction times be like: "Maybe?" these days.

[pliant quarry]

Biggest thing I've noticed with popular younger generation games isn't the difficulty but the pacing

They're honestly often really hard but the pacing is generally way faster and they're less tolerant of really slow paced games

Valorant vs csgo is honestly a great example tbh, the kids that play that game are mechanically cracked out of their minds, I've never gotten so wrecked in a shooter before. But the rounds fly by a lot quicker and the pace of a match is quite a lot faster overall

Which ironically CS2 copied by lowering the round count and adjusting their buy menus to copy it lol

[rocky kettle]

i used to do crazy K style in that game and get kicked from matches a lot. that was the closest thing to a solid compliment that your either modding or smurfing because the other team cant kill you for some reason or another. now I struggle to butterfly without really slowing the button sequence down. age catches up to gamers just as it does in the work force.

[sturdy patio]

Quick dopamine rewards, rinse and repeat. That's the thing for the youngsters. Meanwhile, old me enjoys a spot of fishing in RDR2 or something, while enjoying the scenery 😄

[pliant quarry]

Yeah that's the main reason I got so rekd in valorant, fights often come down to who can land the first headshot and those kids were clicking my head before I even registered that they were on my screen lol

[quiet geyser]

That or stay up with the "meta" lol

[sturdy patio]

These are the kids that are going to take over the world in a few years. That's gonna be fun! If a reversal of climate change doestn't happen when they press a button, they will rage out, and build more coal plants, or a giant club to try and beat the climate into submission.

[pliant quarry]

In my experience the best problem solvers are the laziest people so it might work out

[sturdy patio]

Let's hope so

[pliant quarry]

They won't want to do all that work so they'll find an easier way to solve it

[quiet geyser]

This is how bosses think

[lethal rune]

you can probably mechanically disable your mouse from moving up or down, as well as mechanically set up a center dot by taping it to your pc screen, thereby once you have the proper vertical height, you disable the mouse to only look left and right, so all you have to do is look left or right and line up the center dot. if someone crouch shoots, you crouch shoot too.

[pliant quarry]

Oh my aim wasn't the problem their little neurons just fired way faster than mine

[sturdy patio]

That wouldn't work if your enemy is jumping up and down or crouching though, unless you 100% copied their movement as they did them.

[rocky kettle]

thats why I quit playing fps games. if its pvp, I want halo CE levels of combat balancing where you start with the best weapon and if you switch up from that to something because you like a more function specific weapon then thats on you. no leveling up to unlock weapons and armor, you find it on the map or take it off your enemies corpse. simple and no one argues that you pay to win.

[sturdy patio]

Thank Red Bull for that

[quiet geyser]

Halo was prime back in the day

[lethal rune]

yeah you copy them if they jump or crouch, and since you're doing that too, they have more work to aim than you do

that is if it's possible to mechanically disable the mouse from up and down movement, once you line it up with the headshot

no way to detect this kind of cheating.

[prisma surge]

heat seeking bullets

[pliant quarry]

I feel like that's more effort than just learning how to aim lol

[sturdy patio]

There's no way you can convince me that you have such fast reaction times that you could 100% follow your enemies movements in the Z and Y axis, with a disabled Z and Y axis on your mouse, simply by jumping or crouching 🤣

[lethal rune]

thankfully i don't need to convince you 🙂

[sturdy patio]

If you say so. My hat's off to you then

[rocky kettle]

technically you could do that to your mouse, but thems meta golden eye level of tom F'ery

[prisma surge]

Man grapple plants are so slow to grow

[pliant quarry]

If someone just stood on a box or something in the game though wouldn't that whole strategy fall apart 🤔

[sturdy patio]

Grapple plants?

[lethal rune]

i think most battle encounters you'd headshot them before they even started reacting with jump or crouch, this mechanical hack basically mimics people with skill who keep mouse at head level nearly consistently, and thats how they always win, they have the headshot on first click and first bullet, not third.

[pliant quarry]

I mean most fps game maps aren't flat planes

[prisma surge]

Yes grapple plants

[sturdy patio]

What the heck are those? 🙂

[prisma surge]

They are plants in the game

[rocky kettle]

there is a counter to that mouse mode though. jump, crouch crouch, crouch, crouch

[lethal rune]

yes

but if someone was an engineer, they could probably design a mouse with this feature that turns on and off

using arduino or something

[sturdy patio]

Oh that thing (had to start the game to see lol!) Did you plant them in fertalized farm soil?

[astral hull]

Easy way to win all fps? Don’t play them, you win

[pliant quarry]

In most games disabling your Y axis wouldn't actually be cheating, though having a toggle that changed your control scheme on the fly might be

[sturdy patio]

You don't, because you're not playing them! 😉

[pliant quarry]

in counterstrike though for example that would be allowed and you wouldn't get banned

people just don't do it because the maps are way too bumpy

[prisma surge]

Yup and they are still slow

[astral hull]

It’s a different type of win

[sturdy patio]

Yucca trees are the same. They will grow up eventually

[pliant quarry]

but yeah I don't really play competitive shooters much as I get older

PVE shooters on the other hand... bangers. Only get more fun the older I get

So psyched for the new DRG update in a couple months

[rocky kettle]

dude you have no idea how right you are.

[prisma surge]

Yucca trees are really quick in fertilized soil

[rocky kettle]

ill see if i can find the video

[sturdy patio]

You think? I think they're slow as all heck 😄 (compared to many other things)

[rocky kettle]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ne9bmMX82iY this dude make fourth wall aimbot robot

[prisma surge]

The fastest in fertilized soil are plant fiber shrubs. You turn your back for a second and they are ready to harvest

[lethal rune]

haha

yeah, and it's not detectable, if that works really well, nobody can detect software cheating with that anyway. they could probably gather statistic on reaction time and figure out it's not random or not human.

[prisma surge]

fertilized farm soil, everything is about 10 times faster growing. except grapple plants they are still slow

[sturdy patio]

Maybe you need über-fertalized farm soil then! 😉

Coming soon, to a patch near you ™️

[prisma surge]

crack soil

[sturdy patio]

😄

[sturdy patio]

DRG:Survivor is where it's at these days 😉

[rocky kettle]

need water? just pick up and put back down.

[sturdy patio]

Or just build 10 wells, problem solved

What would be a huge QoL to Enshrouded would be to just pick up all the water from any well, instead of one at the time, and have to wait for that slow sequence to complete.

[astral hull]

I think saffron grows faster on sand iirc

[sturdy patio]

I have just assumed that everything grows faster in fertalized farm soil, and left it at that, but now that you mention that, I'm gonna try it out, thanks!

[agile oar]

Saaaame

[main oasis]

is there mod support?

[sturdy patio]

Not officially, but you can get mods from places like Nexus Mods. Make sure you backup all your save files before using them though.

[main oasis]

what about steam workshop?

[sturdy patio]

Don't know, you'll have to check it out yourself, as I'm not a mod user myself.

[main oasis]

waiting for there to be a dwarf mod

ffs i hate every enshrouded video being clickbait bloat

dudes taking 13 minutes to explain a screenshot

[astral hull]

I did too until i read that here!

[sturdy patio]

Well thanks for that, I will try it out tomorrow. Gonna be interesting! 👍

Just have to survive two more bush flights and I'm out of this hell hole I'm in, and can get back to normal operations.

[rocky kettle]

the steam workshop is good for games like thalasophobia and conan exiles, not so much for palworld for some reason. not sure why.

[native parrot]

Gee, I wonder why...

[rocky kettle]

why not?

[astral hull]

What goes on the workshop from palworld?

I’ve mostly only used the workshop for Planet Zoo and Planet Coaster

[chilly oxide]

Ended up just kinda using an assortment of blocks for headstones and letting them be thick

Oh I cant add pictures nvm

[brittle jewel]

how to disable the fact that if i click my quickslot 2 times I attack?
example:
axe in 1 button, I press 1 again for habit and i damage my own structures.

[noble anchor]

You can't yet.

[prisma surge]

Lesson learned don't play with weapons and explosives in your house

[brittle jewel]

yea but idk why they didnt fix it yet
4 months that ppl are complaining about this, should be very easy to add a feature to turn on/off in settings
in every survival u never attack with the same button that u use to equip the item

[prisma surge]

There's a number of things they need to do that's one of them. It's still early access so they haven't fine tuned it yet. I've been wanting them to disable all the "pick up" tags when not in build mode or a "decorate mode". Also they will probably add so other players cannot pick your flowers or open your chests (locked), etc.

I've blown up some expensive house decorations accidentally with expliding arrows and melee weapons just as you describe

[prisma surge]

That doesn't restore all the water only 1 cycle. The improved wells have 3 cycles (3 x 5 = 15 water) that replenish over time. So picking it up does work but only for the first 5 water. Better to just have multiple wells although the improved well is kind of expensive for mats.

[gentle forum]

[ionic hemlock]

wazzup

[gentle forum]

livin the dreeeam

[ionic hemlock]

did you bring enough to share with the class?

[gentle forum]

no, i dont share

[ionic hemlock]

youre a big meanie. Im telling you mom

[prisma surge]

What kind of stone block is this? https://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561198129767718/screenshot/2476493472159403237/

[astral hull]

i believe its desert city?

Desert City Wall

[rocky kettle]

you might be looking into it further than I did.

[gentle forum]

Brother, I’m gonna need you to use Win + Shift + S or download ShareX to take screenshots.

[prisma surge]

I was just thinking, my NPC's must think I am a powerful wizard when I can conjure solid stone walls out of thin air

[rocky kettle]

Looks like limestone or polished rock. Both are cubes that you can find in the game will delving into chests around areas with buildings that have their respective construction blocks

[safe jasper]

or they think you're weak for needing to mine things before conjuring them

"in the old days when these were built by the ancient devs, they just... create buildings and cities"

[rocky kettle]

heres an interesting different narrative on enshrouded. if you play the game with the nier automata sound track, the game feels totally different like your simply a relic of the past fighting against the planets desire for change and you are scorching the planet of its new dominant organism that seems to have found a way to unify all its hostile beings that are currently working to build a new utopia.

[signal ocean]

good morning gang

what's good

yesterday was a bank holiday, I was fast asleep

[ionic hemlock]

Meh

[signal ocean]

what if you play it with the Disco Elysium soundtrack

[rocky kettle]

dunno. water spawns in the map? you start seeing imaginary friends? wait. you see the world for what it is. your a pyromaniac, the people you rescue that dont do anything, what if there was a reason why they dont move... this story just got a whole lot darker. the monsters you fight are a product of your own imagination.

[signal ocean]

damn...

[gentle forum]

hi cuberson

[quasi saffron]

Okay. One another for the matrix theory.
Nothing in Embervale is truly there. We're all coming out of VR pods in the beginning.

[gentle forum]

🤫 🧏🏻‍♂️

[ionic hemlock]

@signal ocean Add oreo cookies into the game and ill worship you as a god.

[signal ocean]

I'm not sure I want that

[ionic hemlock]

pwzzzzz ❤️ 😍

[native parrot]

Heres a cookie
🍪

[charred cedar]

How about a hunger/thirst system? you got everything you need all there. i would love to make a habit of trecking out in the woods to hunt for some dinner and fill up on some rainwater

[quasi saffron]

Already starving / thirsty for the next Update. Don't want my character to have that also. But maybe as an optional world setting.

[gentle forum]

https://tenor.com/view/you-gotta-give-i-think-you-should-leave-with-tim-robinson-you-have-to-provide-you-need-to-offer-everything-tim-robinson-gif-12213306725033000902

[prisma surge]

What's the spawn limit on skull companions from the Necromancer skill? I've had four up at one time. I've even seen one skull spawn another skull from killing an enemy that was a trip. They procreate 😛

[vapid canopy]

psstt necromancer skill plus the items that summon em

[steel moon]

If there is a limit at all, it’s high enough that it’s hard to hit lol I’ve had small armies of skulls in hollowed halls

[signal ocean]

I think we didn't have a limit at the start

and then when we tested the Hollow Halls we went "uuuuuh" because some of us with necromancer perks would walk around with skull armies

[opaque bear]

Has it been 10 minutes? It's all fun and game until the dude get's stuck in the wall lol Between me and the NPC, I WIN you Nomad Hollow Halls rune bearing friend! Been a fun journey!

[opaque bear]

Had one the same early game, used my pickaxe to get to him!

[pliant quarry]

How's it goin

[opaque bear]

Mighty fine. How bout you?

[pliant quarry]

Pretty good, just vibin

[opaque bear]

Perfect! Learnt a bit about the fancy building from your dev vid .. helps 🙂

[carmine scroll]

V i b i n

[gritty sandal]

i wanna help someone newer to the game.

basically i wanna do multiplayer with someone and i have noone to play with

[tacit spoke]

this game is going to die like valheim if we dont get a big update soon

[gritty sandal]

shame

[native parrot]

Have you tried the lfg?

[gritty sandal]

the latest one was hours ago.

[native parrot]

That you posted?

[gritty sandal]

no. i tried to join

[native parrot]

Ah

[gritty sandal]

hm. maybe i should post an LFG

[native parrot]

Absolutely.
Or I guess in this case LFN
(Looking for noobs)

[pliant quarry]

Valheim died? Weird I thought it was one of the most successful indie games of all time 🤔

[signal ocean]

the next update is slated for June at the earliest. I would strongly recommend you play something else in the meantime if you're bored, and come back to check it out when it's released! Seriously, nobody's asking you to play Enshrouded only.

too many good games out there for you to limit yourself to just one, no matter how good it is

[tacit spoke]

Yes yes all good points! Im just saying, I would pay $30 for an expansion early.

Or some heavily moded modes

[signal ocean]

we will absolutely not sell you stuff until 1.0 is out

put that money back down and your hands where I can see em

[tacit spoke]

Understandable. Im just selfisha nd want instant gratification haha

Your average american consumer i guess lol

[pliant quarry]

Save that money for healthcare

[signal ocean]

we're all over-eager gamers down here

[tacit spoke]

Stop watching CNN, we have the best healthcare in teh world. Theres a reason canadians and others fly to USA for heart surgery/knee surgery. You dont have to wait 6 months haha. I could go have my nuts chopped off by the end of the week, if that floats your boat...

[pliant quarry]

I live here and have to pay for it, it's expensive haha

you read into that way too much

I'm glad you've had good experiences with it though.

[wraith umbra]

there's a do it, no balls joke in there somewhere

[tacit spoke]

hahaha

[languid jungle]

yeah, you never have to wait months for anything in america's healthcare... LOL...

[tacit spoke]

thats a PPO vs HMO issue if you wait longer than 2 weeks for anything

[pliant quarry]

points to no politics rule in #rules

[tacit spoke]

the economy is shit anyways

[lethal rune]

just make a politics thread but only i can post in it, this way no misinformation is spread and we educate the masses

lol

[pliant quarry]

I mean I've lived with a permanent disability and have more than my fair share of issues with our healthcare system but this just isn't really the server to discuss that honestly. Everyone's just gonna get mad at each other and it's a videogame server

[languid jungle]

Anyone know when they are going to open back up suggestions? 🙂

[pliant quarry]

We want to soon but there was a long queue to get through, it's almost done but cub and I had that task on hold while we worked on the AMA for the most part

[lethal rune]

core keeper game, also swedish company, just has a suggestion forum on discord, and people post suggestions there, seems to work pretty well tbh. there is only 25 of the same suggestion.

[tacit spoke]

Ive travelled the world, im just saying be thankful for what we do have. USA is the most free country in the world by far. But alas, no more politics.

[lethal rune]

lol i already disagree with this - which is why no politics

[tacit spoke]

Opinions are like assholes, everyones got em...

[lethal rune]

Switzerland topped the Human Freedom Index at 9.01, followed by New Zealand and Denmark;

not opinion apparently

[tacit spoke]

when do you plan on moving there?

[lethal rune]

when abortion becomes illegal in my state, thanks for asking 😄

[tacit spoke]

Good for you! Hopefully you bring a few like minded family members along with you! While we support you militarily

[subtle prawn]

[lethal rune]

the other day i got arrested in USA for protesting peacefully at Columbia university, i thought we live in a free country 😄

USA free for the rich maybe, trump still not in jail.

[tacit spoke]

Lmao ok, so youre one of the "freedom fighters"

[lethal rune]

I'm worse, I'm anti nationalism

[subtle prawn]

Is that better than being delusional?

[tacit spoke]

Im not debating fools. Have a good day, please move to Denmark.

[lethal rune]

nationalism is just a process of indoctrination and dehumanization, in the past more people used to fight wars over religion - then religion got replaced by the idea of the nation, you're a special member, and anyone who is not is less than human.

[tacit spoke]

You got it all figured out

[noble anchor]

I think that's enough politics for today... Or ever...

[urban grotto]

Question: Are they gonna add new creatures/stuff to the normal/begging biome?

[wise grail]

The biomes do be begging

[urban grotto]

what?

Also are they gonna add more new style enemies? I mean like, most of the enemies are like zombies/humans, would love to see more monsters or different look

[wraith umbra]

each biome has its own unique monster types to fight, I'm sure future biomes will bring additional variety. as for "will the devs ever x", the answer is usually always 🤷‍♂️

[quiet geyser]

I’ve always loved this game. No complaints at all. I wish I could have a pet tho even just for cosmetic reasons haha like in Sea of Thieves

Game wouldn’t feel that empty when playing alone

[pliant quarry]

Well our roadmap on our steam page does have these two

[errant violet]

whats the pointr of hollow halls? only for the building materials?

[viral scarab]

There are also some unique weapons that only drop from there

[errant violet]

okok.

[viral scarab]

And it's the first set of "more challenging" content for the game, a lot of people find the open world pretty easy

[errant violet]

ye 😄 im in the third temple. they hit hard.

[lethal rune]

now i remember what i wanted to do, i wanted to look up a video of hollow halls gliding section

[native parrot]

I keep thinking those are white hearts on the animal farming image.

[errant violet]

really hopew they ad climbing like in the new Zelda games. would fit so good. and for some monsters to climb after u and hunt u down 😄

[native parrot]

Nah, too much work

[tame seal]

Having mobs climb after you would be a good add... make things less cheeseable ^^

[errant violet]

yei was thinking that 😄 to easy to chesse

[tame seal]

They have made some steps to make things less cheeseable, but a lot of it is still easy to walk over for ranged.

[native parrot]

I just imaging seeing those acid cleaver scavengers using their cleavers to quick climb up a wall like Kratos and now I'm even more terrified.

[errant violet]

would love that!

[viral scarab]

Yeah that sounds rad

Terrifying, but rad

[native parrot]

https://tenor.com/view/kratos-kratos-climb-climb-gif-6301271467959258921

[errant violet]

exactly just faster 😄 hahah

[native parrot]

And playing the pokemon Gen 1 elite 4 theme

Dun dun......Dun daaaa dun

[errant violet]

HAHAHA had to youtube it 😄

for sure

[native parrot]

Keen should hire me for creative idea counseling

[lethal rune]

mobs on gliders

that glide after you and shoot you down

[errant violet]

and me lead idea inventor

[native parrot]

Enemies just absolutely chasing you down hundreds of meters away from where they spawned and player just Terraria-Insta-House to hide

[errant violet]

i got another great idea what if we could zoom out the whole map!! and why not add the whole map as playable!! 😄

[native parrot]

Nah

No point in running on terrain that ain't solid

Just would fall into D-Shroud

Can the final boss be a hedgehog that creates pockets of shroud with its quills?

I wanna make an ultimate lifeform reference

[native parrot]

And.....and during the fight, there will be little rings of fire ||and it burns burns burns 🎶|| that we can collect to reduce or Negate the shroud damage

And there will be a loop-di-loop

And trapped animals in cages to free

And....uh.....we could fight robots?

Running around inside of the shroud. Got no where to hide, so we dive deep inside! 🎶

And we can have an orange cat with 3 tails following us around.

His name is uh...whiskers

And we will have another animal called fists. He punches things

The three could be the Flameborn heroes!

Totally unique idea. Feel free to implement it Keen.

[somber phoenix]

https://tenor.com/view/confusion-confused-look-confused-face-visible-confusion-perplexed-gif-19994873

[quasi saffron]

No rum anymore for ZEN this late.

[brittle iron]

https://tenor.com/view/im-done-i-quit-nope-nope-nope-nope-in-out-gif-13328234

[woeful light]

and sicklescythes with acid cleavers

[graceful fjord]

.....they what??

[woeful light]

brutes with 2h acid cleavers

[graceful fjord]

They are bad enough now....

I'm going to need an acid resistance shield...

[woeful light]

I think they should group resistance bonuses to elemental/nature/shroud/physical

[valid lichen]

hey where do you get the save files

[frail shoal]

does anyone know how many personal/private worlds a player can have?

[cunning basin]

they already can jump pretty high. i have a hard time finding a good cheese spot

[cunning basin]

sicklescythes? is that like a pistolrifle?

[pseudo palm]

#i-need-help message

[prisma surge]

The older I get the work days get too long

[sturdy patio]

That means you're not having fun enough at your work place.

[prisma surge]

No I'm not

[sturdy patio]

Time to get a new job then, that you can thrive in.

[carmine scroll]

lol.

[sturdy patio]

What? You don't agree with that? Waking up each morning and thinking to yourself "aww crap, I have to go to that shitty place again?" is preferred instead of "hell yeah, another day at work!"?

[carmine scroll]

thriving in a job. it's funny.

if i had a job I enjoyed i wouldnt be able to pay rent

and i kind of need to pay rent.

[sturdy patio]

It's really not. I have a job I very much enjoy, and look forward going to every day. Took me 20 years to get that job, but I found it eventually.

[carmine scroll]

then you're one of the lucky few.

that the exception, not the norm.

[sturdy patio]

No I'm not. Don't accept a shit job. Follow your heart and do what you want to do.

[carmine scroll]

following your heart doesnt put food on the table.

[sturdy patio]

Alright dude, if that's your take on it, then by all means, carry on. What I'm trying to say is that if you really want it, you can get it, and you don't have to accept being in a shitty job to just pay some bills. Put some effort in to changing your situation.

Nobody else is going to change it for you, except you

[carmine scroll]

I did. I went to trade school. turns out I suck ass.
and the other jobs I'd enjoy pay dirt.

[sturdy patio]

Well if you sucked ass on it, then maybe that's not the thing for you? Sit down with yourself and figure out what you really want to do, and then make a plan on how you can accomplish that, and just go for it. Whatever it takes.

[carmine scroll]

I have. bookstore? pays dirt. running a camp? you need vast land and a lot of logisitics, blacksmithing? not viable unless you're really really good.

[sturdy patio]

To follow your dream, you have to start somewhere. Unless you inherit a buttload of money and can do whatever you want, you'll have to make your own destiny. It's gonna be hard, and it's going to be painful, but in the end, if you persue it hard enough, you'll be at the place you want to be eventually.

[carmine scroll]

im too old and if I fail I'm homeless or have to start over with a job that pays less than what im making now. no thanks.

[sturdy patio]

Yeah that right there is what I'm talking about. It's the defeatist in you that accepts being stuck in that situation you're in. I'm 46, actually today interviewed for a classified type of job here in Sweden that looks really awesome, and if I get that it's gonna set me up for retirement. Never stop looking, never stop persueing your goals.

[carmine scroll]

see there's the diference. I live in the US.

[sturdy patio]

Yeah so what? It's the land of the free and the home of the brave! Go out there and be brave, and find the thing you want to do.

[carmine scroll]

Thats a joke. it's not.

it's a stupid slogan that doesn't reflect reality.

[sturdy patio]

Alright, but seriously. If you yourself accept that you're never going to get anywhere, then that's probably where you'll end up. Following your dream of what you want to do might be costly in monetary ways, you will maybe have to sacrifice stuff to get there, and it's going to be hard, but once you get there, it's going to feel like a million bucks.

Imagine waking up each day and thinking "wow, I get to go to my great job!"

[woeful light]

thats the name of the grim reaper boss [[Fell_Sicklescythe]]

[crude hill]

https://enshrouded.wiki.gg/wiki/Fell_Sicklescythe

[cunning basin]

it is? lol, these names sometimes..thats like Revolver Ocelot...Metal Gear had some good ones... Solid Snake?😁

[noble anchor]

Firstly, not everyone has the same economic opportunities as others, and just 'getting up and getting a great job' isn't exactly easy. Secondly, we don't disparage people based upon their economic situation here - you don't know what their life is like. Sometimes you have to work a crappy job to live in an area or do things you don't want to do - like commute an hour each way, every day, like I do. So, let's leave that topic where it is and not bring it up again, mmmkay?

https://tenor.com/view/mmmkay-mr-mackey-south-park-alright-okay-gif-19580399

[sturdy patio]

I get what you're saying. But if you just accept your fate and feel shitty about it, how is anything ever going to improve? I get that it can be hard, it has been for me for many years, and still is, but if anyone really wants to be happy and do the things they want, they (including myself) have to accept that it will take some work and dedication. It might not be easy, and it might mean huge sacrifices, but it can be done if you really put your mind to it.

But I'll drop it now.

[lethal rune]

I wish I had a dream of what I want to do lol

[quiet geyser]

Both valid points on both ends. But I will say your position doesn't determine your will 🙂

[lethal rune]

nothing would stop me if i actually had a dream.

[mellow sage]

I dream about work all the time...can't say they're always good dreams 😆

[woeful light]

for real, I used to live in west b-mo, had to walk to work, it was rough, now I have a degree in software development and still can't get a job doing it, its not all milk and honey

[noble anchor]

I feel your pain, but let's move along.

https://tenor.com/view/lets-just-lets-move-on-president-orlean-meryl-streep-dont-look-up-i-think-we-should-move-on-gif-24595438

[lethal rune]

there are people without degrees who lie on resume, get hired, eventually make it to 120k a year salaries

the person with degree still making 60k at that company lol

[graceful fjord]

Hm...I kind of want to recreate this tower in Enshrouded, but we don't have these angles....hmm

[woeful light]

exactly, liars and thieves get ahead, the american way smh

[noble anchor]

https://tenor.com/view/just-drop-it-jason-schwartzman-i-think-you-should-leave-with-tim-robinson-cut-it-out-just-stop-gif-16814962740081079633

We're moving on. The next person who circles back to that topic is getting a mute.

[quiet geyser]

Collage is the biggest scam for 80% of job positions just sayin..

They just want ya money

[woeful light]

sorry I literally just sat down and joined the convo

[lethal rune]

which tower is it

[noble anchor]

[quiet geyser]

Don't worry I like to add my 2 cents 😅

[noble anchor]

The bank is closed. No more cents.

[graceful fjord]

One tower I'm currently making in the sims4 kind of fairytale/medieval themed.

[lethal rune]

off topic convo is like the tribbles in star trek, it just keeps multiplying

[noble anchor]

https://tenor.com/view/tribbles-star-trek-universe-gif-15358836

^ me right now.

[woeful light]

I made a tower, its kind of a maze with two spiral staircases and bookcases

[gentle forum]

I agree collages are scams, like who thought putting a bunch of pictures together was cool.

[graceful fjord]

we have spiral stairs!? or did you make them with terrain tool?

[woeful light]

had to make them with benches

[graceful fjord]

....benches....

that is dedication...

[sturdy patio]

@noble anchor can I get a mute please? I need to go sleep, and I talk to much apparently. Thank you.

[lethal rune]

is there a screenshot of that?

[woeful light]

i'll get one hang on

[sturdy patio]

Aww man! 😩

[noble anchor]

Sorry, I shouldn't have posted that, even censored.... >.>

[woeful light]

as I recall it was 6 double wide benches per 90deg + a 4x4
#screenshots-and-art message

[noble anchor]

Setting a bad example.

[sturdy patio]

I guess you'll have to mute yourself now then! Or even a ban! Pick your poison!

[noble anchor]

I just deleted it and gave myself a warning.

[sturdy patio]

Fair enough, good night.

[woeful light]

I mean is this not the free-for-all chat channel?

[noble anchor]

https://tenor.com/view/we-have-rules-nicole-warren-raising-dion-sankofa-there-are-rules-gif-25241740

[ashen crypt]

I heard an interesting saying last night. Put eggs into boiling water and they harden. Put potatoes into boiling water and they get soft. How you react to the same situation/ environment can be incredibly different from person to person. I have seen people thrive in a job others would feel is soul sucking, and visa versa. It really comes down to attitude most of the time.

[sturdy patio]

Uh oh, now you've done it. @noble anchor said that if anyone roped back to this conversation they'd be muted! So, nice knowing you! 😉

[noble anchor]

https://tenor.com/view/memo-boss-office-gif-7299171

We're moving on.

[ashen crypt]

oh =/ i didnt read far enough i guess.

Mute away /takes her punishment like a big girl. How long is the time out for?

[noble anchor]

I will be merciful this time, since you admitted you didn't read far enough. But be mindful.

[ashen crypt]

NPS and ty for the mercy 😄

[noble anchor]

https://tenor.com/view/joaquin-phoenix-commodus-gladiator-am-i-not-merciful-gif-12708905

[sturdy patio]

Man! Dodged a bullet! Well done!

[ashen crypt]

So changing the subject... Cake.. or Pie?

[sturdy patio]

Pie, all days of the week

[ashen crypt]

and what flavor.

[sturdy patio]

Wrong person dude 😄

[noble anchor]

https://tenor.com/view/sleep-time-gif-25989084

[sturdy patio]

Look at these mods lmao

[noble anchor]

Listen... that happens when you click as the chat moves.

[sturdy patio]

😄

[ashen crypt]

LOL

[sturdy patio]

I feel ya

[ashen crypt]

Lemon Meringue or Key Lime pie for me!

[sturdy patio]

And FYI, last time I checked you're neither my mom or dad, and I'm a 46 year old man-child that can do whatever I want! So you don't get to tell me when I need to go sleep! Mhmm

[noble anchor]

You're the one who wanted me to mute you so you'll go to sleep. Do I need to approve your request?

[sturdy patio]

I dare you 😉

[ashen crypt]

roflmao

[noble anchor]

🤷‍♂️

Welp, you asked for it...

[sturdy patio]

Go for it, good night!

[ashen crypt]

NN Andy!

[noble anchor]

Sleep well!

👋

I wonder if they went to bed. >.>

[noble anchor]

Spoiler: They went to bed.

[fresh jungle]

Cake

German chocolate with chocolate frosting

[quasi saffron]

I heard talking about money.

[elder parrot]

Cake.

[astral hull]

Piles of it

[elder parrot]

Only paper bills tho

No coins

^^

[astral hull]

[prisma surge]

So moral of the game is, to get ahead in life you have to kill a lot and take things

[carmine scroll]

yes

[safe jasper]

truth for the entire history of humanity unfortunately

[inner gust]

but when i kill alot and take things i get sentenced to prison 😥 dat ain't fair

[carmine scroll]

you're probably not rich enough then.

[gentle forum]

I’m telling a trusted adult on you

[carmine scroll]

I AM AN ADULT

😈

[gentle forum]

You’re just an untrusted one

[carmine scroll]

https://tenor.com/view/snake-hypnotize-hypnotizing-snake-dancing-snake-disney-gif-14949638131375957284

[rocky kettle]

https://tenor.com/bAYIe.gif collateral damage

[gentle forum]

https://tenor.com/view/togoro-yuyu-yuyuhakusho-togorobrother-gif-19736575

Imagine not being able to embed

[prisma frost]

https://tenor.com/view/funny-no-sad-crying-cry-gif-9380576491190815369

[carmine scroll]

😭

[woeful light]

#Embedded

[snow plaza]

Not that bad tbh

[lavish jacinth]

morning. thinking of buying this game - would love to be able to play it with a group - is that possible?

[snow plaza]

It is
Maybe you can even find someone to play with here on the server
#1195389948069675009

[lavish jacinth]

i will give that a try, thx

[snow plaza]

Enjoy the game!

[lavish jacinth]

thx

[hearty mantle]

Enshrouded in annoying trivia and no content updates.

[subtle prawn]

[lavish jacinth]

not a fan?

[snow plaza]

Don’t play it then 🙂

[lavish jacinth]

wwhat does he mean annoying trivia?

[subtle prawn]

Probably the lore that comes with Content

[native parrot]

He is an annoying trivia

[prisma surge]

How does one "embed" ?

[vital topaz]

Option one would be to gain godly moderator powers

https://tenor.com/view/bay-yanlis-ece-irtem-gizem-snap-fingers-just-like-that-gif-18433812

||option two would be to click on the little + next to the Chat Bar and manually upload a gif or picture. At least that worked at some point||

[prisma surge]

A Place To Call Home: Create a Flame Alter. 86.4% of players have this acheivement.

Seriously? It's amazing how many people don't actually play the game they buy

[carmine scroll]

😅

[vital topaz]

I love how some people who bought elden Ring (or Was it dark souls 2?) dont have the 'die for the First time' achievement

[carmine scroll]

some people are just THAT good.

[subtle prawn]

Probably DS2

[vital topaz]

I can die on the character creation screen, that's how good i am!

[carmine scroll]

amazing!

i dont play soulslike games for 2 reasons.

1. the grimdark aesthetic
2. i couldnt beat the first boss in DS1

although I briefly played The Surge

[prisma surge]

I don't like games that are ultra grindy and over difficult. I played EQ for many years that was grind enough for a lifetime.

But it was all that was available for MMO's at the time more or less

[carmine scroll]

i wonder what that was like quest wize, heard it was amazing.
I like how runescape did it's quests, although that was a double edged sword as some were overwhelming and i never finished them.

[errant violet]

underwater looks so great

[carmine scroll]

lol, i just got a yucca plant from something, maybe corn? it was just one time but still. XD

I love it when I go to split a stack and my dumb brain deletes the material instead. 🥲

[native parrot]

I died on start up.
First time booting it crashed.

[carmine scroll]

i thought the yucca glitch was fixed? XD

[ionic hemlock]

Rookie. I can die before even starting the game.

[vital topaz]

That does sound like an unhealthy habit!

[prisma surge]

I wonder if they actually have a detialed lore behind the Elixer Wells and what happened in Embervale or if it's just an abstrace collection of notes and books you find in game they haven't really gone any further than that. The more I understand about the game world the more I would like to read a short fantasy novel or story about it

I want to know who this mysterious wanderer really was

[subtle prawn]

We probably gonna learn about them at one point

[safe swan]

I have the Prepare to die edition of Dark Souls 1, and didn't got far than the first corricor due to being afraid of things. xD Maybe one day...

Also, have a good Friday everyone!

[subtle prawn]

Henlu Caladran

[subtle prawn]

You might be better off with Elden Ring, less scary corners with evil and mean enemies

[brittle iron]

Hey there

[safe swan]

Oh, I have that on Steam. Maybe one day. 🙂

[subtle prawn]

It's an awesome game

[brittle iron]

Probably top 3 fromsoft releases

[subtle prawn]

Probably my favourite Fromsoft title

[restive quarry]

Probably my favourite game

[brittle iron]

My favourite tends to be the one I am playing rn, but it is definitely up there with Sekiro and ds3

(have not played Bloodborne due to lack of console, so..)

[subtle prawn]

I do take Lies of P over Elden Ring

[brittle iron]

Lies of P is insanely good, too many jumpscares for my personal taste though

can't walk 100m without an enemy dropping from the ceiling or smashing through glass

But yeah easily the best "souls" bossfights of any game

[subtle prawn]

LoP probably the closest to a Fromsoft Game we ever get

[subtle prawn]

And the more memorable fights, I barely remember fights from ER or DS3

[hardy lance]

Sekiro has the best boss fights imo, though Bloodborne is a close second. I hope a sequel is released for both.

[brittle iron]

Hmm I think I remember all the main bosses from all three games But I do think Lies of P did it best

Sekiro has the best fromsoft bossfights for sure

Parrying feels so, so much better than cartwheeling around a boss like you are some kind of circus acrobat

[subtle prawn]

The own downside of LoP are the Stalkers and the Rabbit crap

[brittle iron]

Second black rabbit fight is bs for sure

[subtle prawn]

First one is a neat idea

[brittle iron]

Yeah, the rabbit bros jumping in and out of combat is cool

[prisma surge]

So apparently the crafted explosive barrel does explode but it doesnt have to be placed in your base you can place it anywhere int he world (but you cant pick it back up)

[subtle prawn]

I definitely take Rabbits over the Godskin duo

[brittle iron]

Same

[subtle prawn]

That boss is just terrible

[brittle iron]

The big rolling boi especially

[subtle prawn]

I also dislike the demon princes

[brittle iron]

Yeah, most gank fights are just kinda bad

[subtle prawn]

Lothric and Lorian are actually nice

[brittle iron]

True but also only half of a gank :P

[subtle prawn]

Fias Champs -.-

Teleport & Spam

[brittle iron]

Duo Gargoyles, Penta Gargoyles from DS2, Graverobber Trio from DS2, Ruin Sentinels from DS2..

Why does DS2 have so many ganks

Fia's Champions has that one awful mage dude

[subtle prawn]

Maybe that's why DS2 is so disliked

[subtle prawn]

Lionel or Rogier

[brittle iron]

Lionel

Rogier at least died quickly iirc

[subtle prawn]

Annoying and tanky

Jup

[brittle iron]

Have you played Code Vein? The O&S inspired fight there is also absolutely awful

[subtle prawn]

Nope

[brittle iron]

Fair, not missing out on much there

[subtle prawn]

Maybe we should go to dms xD

[native parrot]

😳

[subtle prawn]

Kantig is being turned into eckig

[brittle iron]

[hardy lance]

Bad game director took charge while Miyazaki was on another project

[brittle iron]

I don't think it was a terrible game but yeah it has some issues

Also some cool ideas ngl

[low quest]

Great lore, bosses, enemies, environment but terrible pve gameplay. The PVP was good though. Arguably one of the better PVP experiences in a souls games.

Slower, more methodical combat, Parry frames that actual work accounting for latency, a back step that has I-frames, being able to invade a solo player. Good times.

[hardy lance]

The things that make Dark Souls good are unique environments with fitting enemies and evolving combat, characters and areas with a deep backstory that you can discover through exploration, and a sense of destroyed or decaying beauty. Dark Souls 2 has almost none of this, and rehashes tons of assets and enemies with no regard to lore. Many bosses don’t even have a backstory or anything to learn from them.

[snow plaza]

I don’t know the context, but I approve lol

[subtle prawn]

There is no context

[primal moon]

today is the first time i've ever rage quit a game, lol i cant seem to fly through the really long part of the last hollow halls, i keep crashing ad dying

at least 30 attempts

try again tmw lol

my glider too fast, and my reaction too slow

[pliant quarry]

Yeah some people have reported having a much easier time "downgrading" to the intermediate glider

It's something the team is aware of and we're thinking about solutions

The extraordinary glider is the one I mean btw

[lethal rune]

the very fast glider could have an ability to slow down by adjusting its wingspan or something

like flaps

either smaller wingspan = speed up, or you add flaps

[steel moon]

Honestly it’s good how it is IMO. If some people feel downgrading makes it easier, fair enough, but personally I kind of like that racing through with ghost rewards knowing the route and feels challenging if you don’t

Like…intuitively it seems appropriate that if you want to race through a course at high speed, you need to know the course, and if you don’t then you won’t get away with max speed and have to slow down a bit to be able to fly reactively. Why would that need to change?

[mellow sage]

I sorta agree. I think if downgrading just slows things down, but doesn't make it impossible to complete, you could keep it as sort of a gameplay mechanic. Almost like a 'hard mode'.

Take a slow glider into dungeons with you, just in case.

[primal moon]

i knowi just suck thats all, i keep flying into all the walls

[pliant quarry]

The slower glider definitely can help, it's noticably harder with the ghost glider

[mellow sage]

I almost lost the first go-round because I was flying too fast...I immediately thought about what an earlier glider would have been like

[quiet geyser]

where does one put suggestions?

[lethal rune]

slower glider descends faster, which is why if not the ghost glider, a newer glider could fly faster than ghost but also have the ability to slow down through use of flaps or by extending/retracting it's wings without losing any height. thereby a new glider could fly faster than ghost, but slow down to fly similar to the glider before ghost.

[mellow sage]

Also, this scene's score plays out in my head every time I do something like those gliding puzzles in games:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QnVl_TXhoZs

[pliant quarry]

!upvote

[unborn sigil]

Future features can be voted on to show your interest on Feature Upvote!

Adding new suggestions is currently disabled, but please search one of the existing 2600+ suggestions and upvote/comment it, your idea is almost certainly in there already!

Created by random27#0 (787104841360736266)

[pliant quarry]

If you use the search function the vast majority of suggestions already have tickets and you can upvote/comment on em :)

We'll open it back up again probably in the near future though

[quiet geyser]

i threw a suggestion in #enshrouded-chat

[agile oar]

Hey @pliant quarry, do me a favor? Can you go by the desk of whoever designed this little jerk and ask them if everything is okay at home.

#screenshots-and-art message

On top of just doing crazy damage, parrying him is nearly impossible. He's got a ton of health too.

[mellow sage]

He's a pain to get right, but it feels great when you stop him.

[lethal rune]

the devs need to work on shields/parry more imo

i'd say that's a work in progress

and skills associated with shields

[pliant quarry]

https://tenor.com/view/skill-issue-short-skill-issue-gif-12822647914317903047

[mellow sage]

next update promised some combat-related stuff...i can't wait honestly

[agile oar]

It's true. I am bad at video games.

[mellow sage]

I'm busy getting better with parry in No Rest for the Wicked....talk about a small window

[pliant quarry]

lol I've heard that game has brutal difficulty spikes, or at least did at launch

[mellow sage]

it's because you can't parry ON the hit, you have to MEET the hit, which is different for a lot of attacks

The only telegraph I've been able to find is sound. There's usually a burst of a kinda 'whoosh' noise before the swing. if you parry then, it ususally works.

[lethal rune]

meet the hit? so they swing, you parry? and meet in the middle?

sounds realistic if it's that way

[mellow sage]

yeah you can't parry exactly when they swing, usually, because the animation is too slow

unless the attack itself is slow, then you need to watch for when you're about to connect with the weapon

if you do it right though, it's OP AF 🤣

[lethal rune]

yeah well people think blocking is you block at the most powerful part of an attack

which would ultimately result in the attack going through your block and getting you

you're technically supposed to block before the attack reaches it's highest power level

so blocks are intercepts

not last minute shields

sounds like whoever designed no rest for wicked knows a bit about fighting

[soft lichen]

@errant violet are you the tuc inside my server ? 😮

[steel moon]

This is how it should be though, is my point. For what the content actually is, it should be expected that faster = harder if you don’t know the route.

Getting to go max speed is the reward for experience/research, same as it would be in a comparable scenario in real life. You don’t run through an obstacle course with no knowledge of the course and complain that that means you don’t get to sprint full speed.

[lethal rune]

a glider with custom speeds would still be nice, especially for coop when you jump off spire and your friends are slow, you could slow down your glide so they catch up.

[soft lichen]

Hey guys, im completely new to the game, is there no chat in the game?

[lethal rune]

not yet

[steel moon]

Custom speed would be nice, I just don’t really see why ghost requiring knowledge of the course to use comfortably is viewed as a downside.

[soft lichen]

@lethal rune Ah okay , someone joined my humble new server but I cant communicate with him, annoying

[lethal rune]

yeah that is annoying, hopefully they aren't a griefer

[soft lichen]

I dont think so, he made a cool mountain base, so i think hes here to play aswell!

Although he seem high leveld (25)

[vapid canopy]

@agile oar have you tried the bow against the cleaver bros?

[agile oar]

I am a big dumb melee idiot. Bows frighten and confuse me.

But not as much as wands and staves.

[vapid canopy]

whelp guard up and move.

[errant violet]

it was me 😄

[pliant quarry]

I think the issue is that most people's gaming intuition is "higher tier=better", so downgrading for a puzzle seems really unintuitive.

[vapid canopy]

if you watch arm movements right before the big attack their arms are raised slowly and held for a brief second. when you se it parry and you should be able to interupt

[pliant quarry]

But yeah the team is thinking about more elegant solutions

[soft lichen]

Oh cool! Thanks for joining

[errant violet]

haha you gotta be ready for ppl who blow everything up if you dont use password 😄

just so u know.

[soft lichen]

oh I bought the game like 20 minutes before you joined, completely new

[errant violet]

nice it's a cool game hope they add more 🙂

[soft lichen]

Def! But its abit overwhelming, I have no idea what to do rn D:

[errant violet]

just follow main quest line and build what the game tells you to build 🙂

[errant violet]

im gonna go for a run now (irl) lol 😄 so maybe ill join later goodluck!!

[soft lichen]

@errant violet Thanks man!

[steel moon]

I guess the question is, what was the goal/expectation for the design of that course? Was the goal for people to be able to just make it through purely on reaction on their first try? If that was the goal, then yeah, that’s not really how it is right now and it’d make sense to switch things up such that the best glider is the best even for a raw/first run of the course, as you said. But it seems like the goal was for this to actually be a bit of a challenge that might take a few tries to learn and practice to get through. And if that’s the case, I don’t see why you’d want to cater to people who specifically aren’t doing that and are instead just using a workaround to compensate for refusal to learn. For people who are willing to practice and learn the course, ghost glider already is the best simply by merit of getting through more quickly. It’s only not the best for the people who are expecting glider to compensate for lack of practice/learning.

Personally I hope the goal was the latter, because this is one of very few points in the game that can be considered kind of a challenge, and some of us like to have some of that. It’s already a very casual-friendly game and it’d be a shame to see challenges removed entirely.

[pliant quarry]

It was supposed to be a challenge yeah, but I think we underestimated just how challenging it would be for some

[steel moon]

Fair enough, but I guess the point I’m trying to make is, those people who are just genuinely really struggling already have their workaround (lower tier glider). But why does a workaround have to adhere to the general “better glider is better” pattern? Isn’t it fair to have an exception to that in the specific context of a workaround that’s not really meant to be the main tactic for getting through?

I guess to me it’s just “if you’re struggling with ghost, get better at the course. If you don’t want to or can’t get better, here’s this other way you can still cheese it.”

[pliant quarry]

Oh I mean even with the workaround some people find it extremely difficult, who otherwise didn't struggle a lot with other parts of the game

Which sorta makes sense, a lot of our game doesn't really need high mechanical skill to get through, but that section is basically entirely mechanical

[steel moon]

Yeah that’s true. I guess it’s just a personal taste thing for me. I liked that there was finally something more technical in the game, because that’s so absent from most of it. It’s obviously not for me to say what your target market is (casuals, sweats, or both), but I hope for my own sake that you don’t make the whole game just strictly casual. I’m more of a sweat I guess, and I think there’s potential for this game to appeal even to players like me despite clearly being more geared toward casuals, but stuff like this course is kind of important for that to remain the case. Even if you nerf the course difficulty, I hope you’ll still keep at least some more technical pieces of content here and there for those of us who want it.

[pliant quarry]

Yeah we probably wouldn't nerf it so much as give ways to work around it. Everything else in the game can kinda be brute forced/worked around even if you don't have high mechanical skill, but that part can't, which I think is what got such a visceral negative reaction about it from some players.

So I know the team was thinking about ways to potentially brute force/circumvent that section as well

[young roost]

I don't mind the speed or taking a lot of attempts to get through, but please make your loot pyre appear at the top of the course, no matter where you died on the way. Or better, on the ground nearest the closest active altar, so that groups with a less-capable flier can respawn to someone who has made it through, and the loot collected won't be lost.

Challenge is one thing, but to make it so punishing because you accidentally touched one of the mycelium outcroppings and that's where your loot is...

Also, any chance we can get more of the resources/clutter out in the world as buildable items soon? Things like the cages and taller iron windows in the nomad highlands, stoves and clutter (colored bottles/lab equipment,etc) in various buildings, more books and pictures?

[steel moon]

Yeah grave looting seems to be the main thing I see people complaining about with it. I think just making grave appear somewhere it can actually be gotten to would go a long way toward making it feel less oppressive to people struggling with it

[wind locust]

Any performance updates :(

[magic kindle]

Never

[carmine scroll]

bring a pickaxe if its on a cliff edge. i never go anywhere without a pickaxe. preferably 2.

lol. i hadnt even thought of using a weaker glider. thats a good idea. ill try bringing all 4 and see what works.

[young roost]

I always carry one as well. Which actually saved my loot, however.... the place my loot dropped was on a tiny outcropping sticking down from the ceiling about 3/4 of the way down. I had to land on a nearby outcropping, then mine the mycelium over to get to it, and then make a perfect jump because the outcropping was only as wide as my pyre...

(A jump I missed the first time, meaning TWO pyres...)
#screenshots-and-art message

[carmine scroll]

fun. ya. for a game that has so many cliffs, fall damage is absolutely BRUTAL

add on top of that the instant loss of the rested bonus.

and I can get very angry with this game sometimes.

at the very least, the glider isnt anywhere near as bad as the wingsuit in farcry, but we need some kind of fall damage reduction item like a ring or something.

[young roost]

Rested bonus, at least for 5-10m, can be regained at the save points by smashing up a table or shelves to get enough wood to make a campfire, at least.

Not ideal, but better than 0. And with as many deaths as I had on that last stretch.... I ran out of things to smash for the wood.

[carmine scroll]

ya

[carmine scroll]

uhhhhhhhhhhhhhh. one of my seeds is counting the timer up and not down....................

[obsidian gust]

I tried claiming my first town with a flame altar, I usually build my house. How would I go about removing the vines from the houses and restoring them?

[indigo sierra]

can anyone tell me how to use a staff in Enshrouded I equip it and it tells me I need ammo why do you need ammo for a staff

[obsidian gust]

because ammo for staves means spells

[indigo sierra]

where do I get spells from then

[obsidian gust]

you craft them with the alchemist

[crystal elk]

Try to craft eternal ammo for it if you can.

[indigo sierra]

ok where do I find this alchemist

[crystal elk]

You have to collect him, and then add him to your home

[indigo sierra]

I am still trying to figure out how to build a home lol

[crystal elk]

Just like you did with the blacksmith

[obsidian gust]

the same way you find the blacksmith, honestly. as you find more survivors, they point you the directions

[indigo sierra]

ok

[crystal elk]

They all give you a bunch of quests to do

To unlock more things that you can craft

[indigo sierra]

ok cool thanks for the info

[obsidian gust]

if you wanna use magic early, you should use a wand until you can find/craft spells

[crystal elk]

Yes wands are great, they use no mana

[indigo sierra]

ok will do

I haven't built a home yet trying to figure it out

[young reef]

So I just loaded into my world and had a hilarious moment where my movement controls were, uh...funky. Moonwalking, levitating, etc. Sadly, I didn't manage a screencap of me levitating over the drop near the starting point lmao

[indigo sierra]

wish they had chat rooms on this discord server

[young reef]

Also seeing talks about that Kindlewastes Hollowed Halls gliding section. I didn't have the ghost glider at the point because I started playing the game after the Halls update and went for those first, but that thing is quite fast. I can see why people would have trouble with it

I cleared it with the extraordinary glider. Some tight spaces, but I didn't think it was too bad tbh

Not sure if this has been talked about yet, but I feel like the ghost glider at least could benefit from players being to "pull up" a bit to increase air resistance and maneuverability. Like an air brake for navigating tight spaces and turns like in the Kindlewastes hall

[obsidian gust]

#1195389948069675009

[young roost]

Noticed this the other day on a friend's server. She's running a little bit underpowered machine and occasionally has to restart Enshrouded/entire PC to get it going again. Sometimes I'll get an alert that the "server is overloaded" but it seems to happen more when it's been running for a while, or if I've come in and left again several times in a row.

[young roost]

That's a fantastic idea, an airbrake without dropping (and maybe even bumping elevation up a little) though would cost you forward momentum.

[native parrot]

Could have a lvl 3 glider in yer back pocket for maneuverability

[young roost]

Do the lower-level gliders fall slow enough to be able to still complete the course without dropping into the red shroud?

[native parrot]

Idk 🤷‍♀️

Try it

[pliant quarry]

Excellent is the sweet spot I believe

that tier of glider I mean

[dusk flare]

Hello. I'm waiting for my friend's copy to download. To host a game I do need to port forward, right? Which ports and protocols?

[scarlet thicket]

I don't believe you have to Port Forward for Hosting, Only if it's like a Dedicated Server?

[quasi saffron]

Another weekend...
Whatcha guys doin'?

[prisma surge]

Behold. The power of cheese.

It ain't easy being cheesy.

[young reef]

Not sure about having a lower-tier glider taking up an inventory slot though, that seems a bit iffy design-wise. It's why I suggested the airbrake function, although it sounds like only the ghost glider/future gliders that are even faster would need something like that. Which I guess means the extraordinary glider is the most functional overall right now?

[prisma surge]

How do you set a channel to automatically scroll to bottom?

[young reef]

I play solo and have a beefy machine, so as of now I'm chalking it up to "early access jank" lmao

Anyway, I like the Hollowed Halls enough to run through them multiple times, so next time I'll try that gliding section with the ghost glider now that I have it

[prisma surge]

I am not a real fan of HH, mostly too long and occasionally very difficult.

Dont like raiding for the same reasons I am a casual player

[young reef]

I get you, they're not for everyone. They're also meant to be taken on with friends iirc, but I have no friends and have to do everything solo lmao

[prisma surge]

lol yeah me too

Hard for me to focus and think straight with others around

Its like my brain just goes on hold

[young reef]

It's the same for me, and also just being trash when it comes to people for a number of reasons. So it's nice that Enshrouded is a game that you can play however you want...for the most part

[prisma surge]

I dont like the feeling of being rushed when in groups people think they need to go go go. I dont play that way

[young reef]

Can relate, I play FFXIV and there are quite a few people who just have no patience when running mob dungeons

Like, some of them will actually leave parties if things aren't going fast enough for them. And I'm talking about people with mentor status

[prisma surge]

I have no patience for impatient people in games like that 😄

[young reef]

Yeah, especially considering new players are jumping into FFXIV all the time. Helps to have vets actually fulfill their status lol. Thankfully the FFXIV playerbase is actually relatively welcoming and non-toxic.

[young roost]

Yeah, she was getting it occasionally when playing solo. I have a pretty beefy machine as well and noticed it myself solo a couple of times, though it usually cleared itself up. Had to exit to menu and reload once though. So probably that, EA issues that can show up anywhere, but maybe more often on machines with less raw horsepower.

[young reef]

I've never had to reload, but I notice how long it takes stuff to render/appear when I load my world. Like my character is invisible, save for his one-handed melee weapon and shield. Crafting stations take a bit of time as well

But the game isn't too bad once everything loads. Although seeing flickering light effects and shroud warping is kinda funny lol

Sometimes I get floating pieces of terrain, too

[young roost]

Yeah, or that occasional hoverrock or floating forest beet. 😄

[young reef]

That too. I wonder if floating bases will be an actual thing in the future, like in No Man's Sky? I tend to draw inspiration from bugs and glitches, so like...floating bases, or building out of bounds/in a void is something I like~

[young roost]

You can certainly make a floating base now. 🙂

Flames can be positioned on other structures, so just build up, and then add a new flame to the top, remove the one from the bottom, and keep building.

[young reef]

I'll have to try that. I already have ideas for underground designs, but right now I'm just clearing sidequests

Need to check and see if I've unlocked all the building blocks in the game so far, too.

[young roost]

There's quite a lot. Some you don't get until quite late, like well blocks.

[young reef]

I got the well blocks already. I'm actually at a point where I want to make a few different bases for my NPCs and get rid of all the clutter in my storage

I've been making tons of bone blocks from all the bones I get from the Hollowed Halls, plus metal blocks from metal plates, which I've been crafting to get ride of all my scrap metal

Since I'm making a mental blueprint for an underground necropolis, the bone blocks will come in handy real soon~

[young roost]

Definitely. They go well with the mycelium-covered stone blocks too as fronts. I'll post a pic in a sec in the "Creative Corner."

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1235270718577578085/1236084717728698410/image.png?ex=6636b91a&is=6635679a&hm=534693b2fe1f4c8884545d137b3725be90cbd972234c50b855fd8c265081e27d&

[prisma surge]

So there is this small area in my basement at the Blue Goblet Tavern that has a strange glowing effect. There was a small cave there that had some luminescent growth that I cut I filled in with dirt I am wondering if that is causing it. Maybe they put some invisible glowing lighting effect in those areas.

[cunning basin]

ambient lighting is usually a seperate entity or whatever, it shouldnt be active after the "source" was removed but can glitch. ive seen it happen in other games when removing a light source or one gets destroyed, leaving the glow behind. there are a few minecraft add-ons that even has the different light levels as place-able blocks.

[prisma surge]

Yeah I figured it was glitching. It only happens at certain times them stops

[cunning basin]

oh , i was going to suggest placing something there to appear to be the source if it was always active..

[prisma surge]

Doesnt really work there. Besides it's a pulsating glow, it shifts around

Fortunately its in a place that is out of the way so I may get to it sometime

[loud shadow]

hello, i have a question about enshrouded on steam. when I load up steam, sometimes I see enshrouded have a (whatever size, like today around 120mb) update. but there are no patch notes. are those patches of some kind? can i find the notes somewhere detailed?

[cunning basin]

what the heck is the 2 hour slow mode on screenshots? and getting started has 5 second slowmode??

[stable cedar]

Mostly to avoid spamming

You have lots of people who
type
like this
and
it makes it hard to
respond because
it's all broken up

[cunning basin]

2 hours though?

[wraith umbra]

you can post screenshots in other channels

that was part of the change

[prisma surge]

I really like the lightning channel but its so expensive to make

[prisma surge]

I know

just what

you mean

actually sometimes I type like that because I have after throughts

[wraith umbra]

yeah i prefer short little bits for this medium

[cunning basin]

the what?

[prisma surge]

the

lightning

channel

[cunning basin]

i read those words before

[prisma surge]

They are staff charges but theres no eternal version you have to craft them

[cunning basin]

oh, i was hoping it was an illumination item

[prisma surge]

Also it's a tv channel about lightning and storms kinda like the history channel

j/k

Yeah they give a constant stream of electric arcs which do damage over time its pretty brutal. You feel like Emporer Palpatine. But its closer range and expensive to make.

[stable cedar]

The staves using consumable charges (and being basically just different flavors of damage) just makes the magic system feel like archery with a different coat of paint

[prisma surge]

The fireball has an incredibly long range and with skills a pretty wide area of effect

[stable cedar]

Yeah, mortar wizard is pretty good. Like firing a giant arrow you can lob outside of aggro range

[prisma surge]

plus I dont have to make arrows mana is free

[stable cedar]

You get what I mean, though. To me it just feels like a different coat of paint on the same lines of code

Equip ranged item, check ammo type, charge up, expend resource, damage occurs at location

[prisma surge]

I felt that way a little at first but I like the versatility and no ammo requirement of the staff. Its for range though when things get in close you want a wand and shield whic pretty much makes every enemy a joke. They just run up and die.

I played the game first time through on a pure melee class. Mage is squishy but its so much easier. Just dont get hit. Which isnt too hard to do

Once you get level 25 and all your skill points you have more than enough to spec everything you need and then some take a few constitution from the melee trees for more health

Archer is the hardest to play imo. Keeping things at range and they dont stay at range for long so you almost always have to resort to sword fighting

[stable cedar]

Dex having no close range options is also rough. I hope they add daggers or something for those poor archers

We'll never know because the dev team got tired of taking suggestions 🤷

[obsidian willow]

I haven't really cared about the YT/Reddit side of glitches or walk-through of the game, so I am not very 'socially informed' about such sides of the game.

But if I recall correctly, they closed the suggestions in-line with their first Roadmap? It sort of seems fair to me to do so, since they have a lot of things that were suggested in the forum they made for the community to share ideas in.

I don't want them to be superbly rushed about everything either. I quit Minecraft because of how overzealous the community has become in nitpicking at Mojang for Java, forgetting that at the end of the day, constant updates that are just thrown together are much less fun than updates that happen less often but add fresh air to the game, while maintaining it accessible for years to come.

Of course, patches to fix things regularly will always be necessary.
But adding things together in a 'packaged updated' seems like a very fun concept to me :D

DRG (Deep Rock Galactic) uses a very similar freemium model of updates and events, which could also be used later down the line to keep the game fresh. There could always be small side-cosmetic related things to support the developers if need be, like DRG does.

Maybe some 'supporter-esque' statues, flags, banners etc for building? Maybe a cosmetic reskin for something like the NPCs or your Altars?

At the end of the day, there is a very long journey ahead with this game hopefully. :)

[hollow jay]

is the game worth coming back to now boys ?

[native parrot]

Depends. Do you like building?

[hollow jay]

yup

i mean i always loved the game. but i need to convince the bois

[vital topaz]

When was the last time you played?

Did you check out the hollow halls back then?

[native parrot]

Before HH?

[hollow jay]

i dont remember what hollow halls is

i played like 1-2 months ago i think

[vital topaz]

It's a couple of Dungeons that was released in the last big Patch

They are an experience suited for a group of players - can be done solo though

[native parrot]

If ya don't remember the content of the last major update I can presume you haven't played it.

[vital topaz]

There have been a few new building pieces and materials as well! (no new biomes though)

[native parrot]

The biomes are the friends we make along the way

[twin zodiac]

I think I'll wait for more before getting into HH. They didn't increase the level cap did they?

[opaque kelp]

does anyone know why the charcoal kiln isnt showing up on the carpenters list?

WAIT

LOL

idiot

[quiet geyser]

QUESTION - do the npc enemies gradually become stronger depending on solo player level? what if a player 24 joins the server of a lvl 4, how do npc attack strengh align with the stronger player?

[opaque kelp]

I got it

[outer walrus]

NPC level is wholly based on biome/region

[quiet geyser]

ahhh ok ...the more i discover the map (and rescue my crafting friends) the harder it becomes over at their region

[teal whale]

Do you guys think we can expect the vanity system anytime soon?

[prisma surge]

If you are looking for casual outfits because you don't like farming and building in a full set of heavy armor just mix and match a few crafted pieces from the ranger and healer sets you can get a relatively (normal clothing) appearance.

https://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561198129767718/screenshot/2476493472172681071/

[teal whale]

Looks good 👍
But I just want to wear the knight armor or northern watch armor instead of the soldier set.
I don't quite like the cape, or general set, tbh

Also ... weapons. I love the sword the mist guys are using, but it's crap.

[prisma surge]

oh ok you want to cosmetically equip gear. That's cool. LOTRO does that it has a dressing room where you can preview items to see how they look on your character. Anything you can equip can be cosmetically equipped to appear no matter what is in that slot. It has a massive collection of just cosmetic items too. Some people call it the end game lol

[teal whale]

Fashion is the true endgame in every game xD

[prisma surge]

Some items like weapons have restrictions though, like you cant equip a 2 handed sword while you are carrying a 1 handed sword it has to be another 2 handed sword

[teal whale]

Same as the WoW transmog system, then

[prisma surge]

You should see some of the outfits people put together you can make an awesome looking character. I mix items I have found from drops, crafted gear and even a few cosmetic items from the store. They have complete sets for character as well as for your war horse.

LOTRO's cosmetic system is probably the most well developed and item rich environment Ive seen in games

Personlly I think it's way out of hand but people love the cosmetic system there

[fossil parcel]

Absolute truth here! 😄

[prisma surge]

The downside is, it takes a lot of time to collect gear and add them to your wardrobe

I mean you can get items for free from events and purchase cosmetic items from the store but I like to use original peices I found in game. I have a 12 year LOTRO wardrobe 😛

[native parrot]

You know, this place is called the Tavern, but when have more than a couple people actually done a cheers? 🍻

[carmine scroll]

🍻

[prisma surge]

Well I completely restored and improved the Blue Goblet Tavern. That was a LOT of work. Some of the things the dev who created it did was pretty weird too too a lot of work to fix.

like half the basement foundation was open basement the rest was solid flintstone. Took a year to cut out but I got over 5000 flintstone blocks from it

Also half the roof was solid refined wood had to cut out a huge part of the roof interior but a ton of open space up there now

[cunning basin]

seems like the houses have more mats or are bigger than they should be. the gable windows are always way overhead....

[wraith umbra]

something I learned from someone, you can place a prefab over the buildings in the game and then delete the prefab to get all the blocks from the space. much faster clearing

[prisma surge]

I didn't want to delete the original build I just wanted to fix it. I had to use the large 2m cutting block for the bulk of it then the 1m for removing all the edges and trim in order to preserve the original wall and roof

A lot of tedious work lol

[wraith umbra]

i just meant you can delete it all, get all the blocks, then do the repairs you wanted

[prisma surge]

Oh I see. So get all the mats, remove the flame alter let it reset them come back?

[quiet geyser]

VANITY - its listed in game updates but for when, i dont know (see my post under #getting-started )... to pimp our clothes and weapon looks yesss 👍

[prisma surge]

By prefab you mean the building shapes?

[wraith umbra]

yes

prefabrication