the-tavern

[gentle forum]

You can also land on points throughout and pick back up, just be warned your corpse will be there

[snow plaza]

Same..

[split schooner]

I am just not good at that kind of stuff, I am 54, I have been playing games since Asteroids was the hot new thing, I don't think I have a lot of chace of getting better.

[quasi saffron]

What have u done this time?

[queen rapids]

Guess all my time in JC3 pays off! i love the glider

[quasi saffron]

Had no problem either with the fastest.
But my GF had.

[prisma frost]

My friend sent me save file of his world but i dont know how to open it

[queen rapids]

Should be copied here, if that works. C:\Users\username\Saved Games\Enshrouded

[gentle forum]

Backup your save before you copy anything.

[quasi saffron]

Watches his clock.
Getting late here.
Need to do things. 👋

[prisma frost]

Thanks guys

[prisma frost]

Have a Good Night, your excellency

[queen rapids]

I miss the time when saved games were saved in the game folder and people knew how to backup their save games. I don't under stand the urge to obfuscate files when gamers and workers usually need to handle files anyway, that being, save games, mods, and so on.

[mossy meteor]

Good Night! 🙂

[queen rapids]

These days files are thrown around on your drive like confetti.

[gentle forum]

No one backs up files

Never have, never will

They love to come in and complain that everything is gone

[quasi saffron]

It's 8:40 AM.

I just need to do some working.
Okay. Should've been more clear I guess.

[queen rapids]

That's on them. Running dedicated servers, you will learn to back up your files.

I searched for "Whiterun" in #1200109637815517184 and got no hits. I am surprised.

[fallow yarrow]

any news when new update comes? cousr theres nothing to do in the game

[queen rapids]

done with all the new stuff?

[quasi saffron]

Update tried playing me.
I crashed.

[queen rapids]

Windows update?

Cause that crashed the game for me too. I updated my display driver and it booted normally.

[quasi saffron]

Nono. I crashed into the next wall.
Btw. we need a warn sign as emote for crashing gliding Flameborn.

[queen rapids]

oh hehe 🙂

[wraith umbra]

Skyrim is old news, no one's doing that anymore.

They'll be remaking their animal crossing islands before whiterun

[queen rapids]

I just wondered if someone had done it.

[wraith umbra]

also, I'm sure someone will eventually 🙂

[split schooner]

Ww just got one!

[fallow yarrow]

@split schooner only 3 new dungeons

did them all in half day

[queen rapids]

And building is not your thing i take it?

[subtle prawn]

Not before like June/July

[fallow yarrow]

@queen rapids have little house with 50mins rest

and all biggest magic chests 15 of them

[split schooner]

Make little house into big house!

[queen rapids]

I have no magic chests. I just hate the glow.

[gentle forum]

https://tenor.com/view/longday-bored-gif-22248152

[split schooner]

I will agree that sometimes the glow is annoying depending on the design of the room .

[queen rapids]

That's on me, that I have to manually get things.

[fallow yarrow]

my chest s outside of my house in terrace

[split schooner]

In my old town before I nuked it I had everything in a warehouse

[mossy meteor]

hmm clipping the chests into something that looks like a chest but does not glow gets rid of the glow 😄

[queen rapids]

I am not even sure i have the biggest chests i can get either. huge chests?

That didn't sound right but you know what i mean.

[split schooner]

They will probably add one more size for full release of the game FFFs

[astral saddle]

anyone has extra legendary ice blade? 😭

[split schooner]

I probably do

[queen rapids]

I would love to be able to make the chest that looks like an old chest. Useful and decorative.

[strong shale]

any way to pvp? me an my friends just started an are having fu

[quasi saffron]

Vanity Chest System please.

[strong shale]

fun*

[quasi saffron]

No PvP

[dark cave]

where do i go to report a bug

[quasi saffron]

More about that here #game-faq message

[quasi saffron]

F1 ingame or Escape

[split schooner]

I have 4 aparently.

[queen rapids]

Excuse me officer, I want to report a bug. A swarm of bees one one of them stung me.

[astral saddle]

is it ok if you spare me 1? i kept on getting nova 🫠

[split schooner]

You have to provide a world to drop it off. DM me

[quasi saffron]

In Valheim it says "The Bees are happy".
But I've never seen them smile...

[queen rapids]

Or the bees are sleeping. Lazy bees

[pastel oyster]

you have to look at their knees.

[queen rapids]

yeah bees knees as usual.

Weird. I have this one spider that spawns in my basement.

[pastel oyster]

I have one of those in my pantry...
...oh wait you are talking about the game aren't you?

[queen rapids]

yes

[pastel oyster]

That is odd. is there any portion of your basement that doesn't fall within your altar range?

[queen rapids]

Not that part, but there were spiders there initially, but a whole lot more than one though.

[pastel oyster]

is it accessible at all to the part where it's not in your altar, like could it have wandered in?

[queen rapids]

Nope. it always spawns in the basement.

[pastel oyster]

I'd report that lol

But you should also name him. George is what we named the one in our pantry ^_^

[queen rapids]

I think it is a she, how about the name Kira?

posted a couple of SS in SS&art

[pastel oyster]

I would love to have a spider with my name ♥

[queen rapids]

Kira it is.

[pastel oyster]

Wait, does this mean I have to pay her rent? 🤣

[quasi saffron]

Have you really checked If that spider does not spawn outside the Altar area? Maybe the cellar goes outside of the borders you're standing on.

[queen rapids]

Not unless your mother is Ungoliant

[quasi saffron]

Also, Kira is already the Name of my dog.
And that was 3 years before I knew Mama.

[pastel oyster]

Naw, my Mom has her moments, but I'd hardly say she's a man eater.

[queen rapids]

Yes. See screenshot. the basement is under that building.

[quasi saffron]

Would be strange.
Also some basements are bigger than that what the houses initially show

[queen rapids]

I removed a lot rubble there, the basement is inside the flame area.

[quasi saffron]

Would be strange.
Maybe she spawns out of a cocoon and that does respawn

Similar to the honey/bee wax issue

[queen rapids]

Yes, that might be

I occationally have to kill kira as she wont let me build when she runds around my feet.

[pastel oyster]

It's okay. I am sure some people would be happy about it. 🤣

[quasi saffron]

She'll be glad.
No longer pain

[queen rapids]

what do you mean no longer pain? I can't be that unplesant? 😮

[pastel oyster]

you certainly aren't unpleasant. 😄

[quasi saffron]

She has shoulder pains If I remember right.
You could massage her with ur sword.

And get her to sleep.

[pastel oyster]

Oh you are talking about my pain. 🤣

I still want to live 🤣

[quasi saffron]

We know. Life is pain.
It's not dying for you. Its putting you to sleep.
Also even If you die, you'll respawn until it is fixed!

[queen rapids]

does spiders have two or four shoulders btw? asking for a friend.

[quasi saffron]

Depends how many legs they got...

But I think it is 4

[queen rapids]

I just hope she wont be late with the rent, cause that will probably end up in a web of lies.

[pastel oyster]

Dude, speaking of respawning... I found out today that a fun little theory of mine as to what happens upon death is some quantum physics theory. 🤣

It broke my brain, cause I am not that smart. 🤣

[queen rapids]

QP isn't something i know well, I must admit.

[quasi saffron]

If you got that theory already didn't your theory already broke your brain?

[weak axle]

is there an option to use the old inventory hud ?

[quasi saffron]

No

[pastel oyster]

lol It broke my brain that I could think of something as a 16 year old that would end up being some quantum physics thing

[quasi saffron]

They reworked it completly

[weak axle]

the new one is horrible imo inventory management is now a pain

[quasi saffron]

Also a way of saying that you have slacked off.

[weak axle]

hopefully they put the auto stack button back

[pastel oyster]

haha.. naw, my brain isn't that good. I was never meant to be a theoretical physicist - too many numbers. 🤣

[quasi saffron]

Eh... That exists still or? Wasn't it Shift R?

[daring spoke]

em there is a stack button

check the key assignements

[signal ocean]

good morning gang

[weak axle]

it didnt work for me instead it added items to my storage and i had to put them back

[subtle prawn]

Morning cub

[pastel oyster]

Morning! 😄

[weak axle]

i will go through controller bindings

[queen rapids]

the animals walking backwards bug is funny every time 😂

[quasi saffron]

I never know what to answer.
The gang greets you back! ?

[weak axle]

before i could stack 10 items from inventory to storage in one click now i cant

[signal ocean]

"ayyy boss" or anything in a strong New Jersey accent would be great

[quasi saffron]

Ayyy ayy bossy

[pastel oyster]

wouldn't it just be "Yo?"

[queen rapids]

forged'aboud'it

nvm thats more of a manhatten thing.

[pastel oyster]

I'll take "things you don't hear in California for 200, Alex"

[quasi saffron]

In New Jersey they just great with hello, yo, sup, whazzup or such

At least according to google

[pastel oyster]

Did you know that the surfers in SoCal can communicate solely using the word "Dude?"

[quasi saffron]

Dude thats totally a new Duden for me

[queen rapids]

naw, in NJ they greet each other with nice tan!

[quasi saffron]

Btw. Duden means dictionary where I come from

[pastel oyster]

So how are you this fine morning, @signal ocean? Anything exciting going on? 🙂

[quasi saffron]

Something something granular

[signal ocean]

I'm gonna go in the feature upvote mines, and going to do my best to cull the pending suggestions so that we may eventually reopen the submissions

[subtle prawn]

Is that where you store your precious grammar xD

[quasi saffron]

Eh... Mine specifically or the german one in general?

[warped pond]

Started a new game with the latest update and am I glad I picked to play mage. Doing the Hollow Halls with my usual Archer would have been a pain.

[subtle prawn]

The German one xD not that I'd use it

[quasi saffron]

The german dictionary causes back pain I heard from trying to carry it around

[queen rapids]

not unlike a chinese keyboard.

[quasi saffron]

Ha. I already have like 10 suggestions to be done that are totally not a copy of pre-existing ones!

[tidal falcon]

Do legendary weapons respawn??

Need to salvage then to get my runes

[pastel oyster]

everything outside of your altar range will respawn. Locations that have a specific item in the chest will respawn as well. Most legendries come from chests with randomized loot tables though.

[queen rapids]

i got 4000 runes in my inventory and tons more laying around in chests.

you'll get more runes than you need eventually

[tidal falcon]

I had 6700 runes but then my altar bugged out and my entire base dissapeared

And im just lvl 20

Its all gone

[queen rapids]

that sucks. was it close to some of the new content?

[tidal falcon]

Yep

Did all the new content and boom all gone

[queen rapids]

Yeah my alter at willow crush was gone too, although it was a little outside of the town before the update.

[dreamy moon]

Is there any way to make your alters range always visable?

[queen rapids]

if you really need runes i know of 2 silver and 2 gold chests relatively close to each other.

you mean the flame of the alter?

I really should work but instead im playing enshrouded 😂

[safe swan]

I should clean my apartment but feeling lazy + Enshrouded.

[dreamy moon]

no, the range of the alter

[tidal falcon]

I want my runes back and kinda mod it too

[queen rapids]

I wish we could see the range of the alter when upgraded to max when putting down an alter.

its not that shroud cores is hard to come by but it takes time, specially if you need to move it more than once.

[tawdry python]

It shows it when you have the construction hammer equipped and ready to select or place a building block.

There's a glowing orange barrier showing the maximum building range that you have.

[sudden pulsar]

I think they meant being able to see the max distance. There isn't a visible grid line in this game so it can be pretty hard to see or calculate where to put what to make it reach properly. When I took over the area at woods end I just approximated and happily I nailed it on the first try.

[tawdry python]

It's really not that difficult if you're able to do 2-3rd grade level math. Using the largest sized blocks can make measuring super fast and easy if you're not that great at math. After building for awhile you can become better and faster at it.

[shell rock]

Hi! Who have resource public serv ip?

[viscid flint]

i think the exp system would be slightly better if mining didnt give any xp at all 🙂

[tawdry python]

Why?

The experience should be boosted some for quests

[carmine scroll]

Heresy.

[viscid flint]

i build a house on lvl 12 or 13 .... needed aLOT flint and tin and copper... rest of the game was literally a giant snooze fest if you go to lvl 23 in the Tier 2/3 region

[safe swan]

What about if mining had its own lvl thing? Ex. you can't mine copper if you haven't reach certain mining level.

[carmine scroll]

mining should absolutely give XP. and i should be able to store XP even after hitting max level.

[tawdry python]

The level of the pickaxe helps somewhat with that.

[tame seal]

Why do you want to store XP?

[subtle prawn]

Wouldn't that kinda eliminate the purpose of a new area/levels?

[viscid flint]

thats why im saying mining is actually bad for the exp progress...

[pale hinge]

hi

is there a way to increase drop chance of rare stuff?

[tame seal]

No.

[subtle prawn]

If you start building yeah but people that play through it without building don't even notice it that much

[tawdry python]

In some games they'll "store" experience holding you off from leveling up, once the level cap is increased the stored experience can be put towards leveling up immediately.

[tame seal]

I'm not aware of any of these types of games. However, just looking at Enshrouded, over levelling the content seems like an experience they are not aiming their game to be.

[tawdry python]

It's something from a few MMORPG games I've seen. The purpose in them is to slow down the SUPER active players from leveling far beyond the less active players. Doing this allows the less active players time to at least temporarily catch up. Some of them will have a limit on the maximum amount of stored experience so it's not infinite. It wouldn't make sense to do that for this game though.

It's already easy enough, don't need higher levels until more biomes are added with higher than +30 enemies added

[subtle prawn]

It feels like people make levels way more important than they actually are, besides levels giving you 48 (possibly 50) skillpoints it doesn't do anything at all

[tawdry python]

Every additional skill point will make you stronger

[tame seal]

Blame the gaming industry, a lot of gamers are trained on this 'do this get a reward' mentality. So when there's no reward in sight, the game isn't giving that dopamine hit. But that's going way past game talk 😄

[subtle prawn]

With the current skilltree it declines at one point very hard with the strength gain

[tawdry python]

People are addicted to the high they get from gaming and no longer have attention spans. Once they feel as though there's nothing left they move on to something else.

I'm cheap, so I play a game a lot longer than most will.

[tame seal]

That's what i mean, the industry has trained them on getting 'items' to find a game enjoyable. Hence the reason microtransactions are such a thing. FOMO is real.

[carmine scroll]

be quiet and just give me my dopamine already!!!!!! /joking.

actually what if when we max out our XP we get runes instead. :3

[subtle prawn]

How about we abolish levels :3

[tame seal]

Again, what's the point? There's nothing to use them on 😄

Have skill points attached to quests instead.

[carmine scroll]

well im saving one of each weapon and it would be cool to max them all out.

[quartz herald]

Why is it that when I glide down in the game I feel like I'm falling down in real life?

[subtle prawn]

You get so many runes by farming for weapons tho

[quartz herald]

is this a known bug?

[tame seal]

In farming said weapons, you'll no doubt get ample weaponry to salvage to get the runes needed for upgrades 😄

[carmine scroll]

i guess?

i still need to locate a level 25 chest i can farm.

[tame seal]

A bug in your feelings? o.O

[dreamy moon]

that's how i make runes

[carmine scroll]

i should probably get that fighter armor.

[subtle prawn]

Could send you the location of one

[rugged spire]

will 2h melee ever get reworked or balanced? they really suck ass atm

[carmine scroll]

i would appreciate that.

[tame seal]

I don't think 2H needs to be reworked, i actually think it'd be better to have a talent that stops you from being interrupted mid swing so easily.

[carmine scroll]

THIS

[rugged spire]

yeah like grit while swinging

[carmine scroll]

ive actually been using 1 handed sword a lot in the sjroud even though im speck for 2handed hammer. cause getting swarmed by bugs suck

[tawdry python]

I already have 25k runes🤣

[rugged spire]

plus the swing variations are very low

[carmine scroll]

i need to respec....

[carmine scroll]

gimme gimme

i only have like 2k

[restive quarry]

I farmed that lvl 25 chest North-East of Deepcut, got tons of runes now

[tawdry python]

It seems like most simply spam jump attack with 2 handed in HH dungeons🤣

[subtle prawn]

Not after opening the chest I sent you dm, one inventory of epic weapons gives easily 5k+ runes

[tame seal]

It's the only possible way of using 2H in there, with so many fast moving mobs you can barely get a swing off before you're interupted.

1H absolutely no problem, you can mow down nearly everything.

[tawdry python]

It does seem to be a sort of a boring meta build specifically for the HH dungeons when using a 2h such as the ignited hammer.

[quasi saffron]

Lets see If some specs get a rework.

[prisma surge]

Sword of Radiance a good weapon ?

[tame seal]

As with all the weapons in the game, they're good in their own situations.

[tawdry python]

Legendary gold version is pretty good against many enemies

[restive quarry]

Kinda meh imo, it's good for crit build if you wanna heal a ton. But damage is kinda lacking.

[prisma surge]

yeah it is legendary going to upgrade it and see

[tawdry python]

Try to match the weapon that the enemy you're up against is vulnerable to.

[prisma surge]

yeah good point

lol all the upgrades were +5% criticle chance

[turbid solar]

is the game doable playing solo?

[tame seal]

Definitely.

[tawdry python]

For example the enemies in the HH dungeons are highly vulnerable to blunt damage, so the ignited hammer and the snakeskin wand and the new staff bone charges are very useful

[restive quarry]

Yeah, I only ever played solo and did about everything

[prisma surge]

HH vulnerable to blunt wish I had known that last night lol I do now 🙂

course it stands to reason skelitons should be vulnerable to blunt

[restive quarry]

I just carry my Tainted Axe everywhere and never swap weapons except a bow

[tawdry python]

You're limiting your potential DPS

[prisma surge]

I have been playing the same way more or less, using Wolfs Maw for everything

[tame seal]

Because dps is important in this game, yes yes.

[tawdry python]

Some enemies are resistant to those and your weapon will break much sooner because of it.

[restive quarry]

Potentially, but it's way smoother for me to play this way. I don't want to have to swap between 8 weapons for each enemy weakness.

Also feels like DPS isn't really an issue anywhere.

[tame seal]

Pretty much isn't.

[prisma surge]

DPS is an issue against bosses wait until you have to fight the Vukah Brawler to get the workstation

[tawdry python]

It would seem silly to be knowingly using a weapon on enemy that's resistant to it, unless it's your only weapon left. In that case you probably didn't come prepared with enough weapons

[restive quarry]

Vukah brawler gets pierced by my bow in the head

[tame seal]

Using a weapon that's not resisted is one thing 'maximising' dps is the unimportant part.

[tawdry python]

Don't need to carry 8. 5 is plenty and always good to have extras in case 1 breaks.

[restive quarry]

It feels silly to bring out 'enough' weapons for every different enemy type to me xD

[tawdry python]

If you're only going to a few certain areas then you only need to bring weapons that those enemies are vulnerable too.

No need to fill your bag

[restive quarry]

Way easier to carry the same weapon everywhere. And it's versatile enough.

[prisma surge]

If a bow has + fire magic damage does that apply to the shot or to spells cast while wielding it?

[tawdry python]

What makes more sense to kill an enemy doing 150% damage to it or doing only 60-75% damage???

[restive quarry]

you can't cast spells while wielding it

[tawdry python]

It adds that fire damage on top of your regular damage. Some enemies will have fire resistance though.

[prisma surge]

ok thought so, its the way they word it "magic damage" makes it sound like its something else

[restive quarry]

makes more sense to me to use the same weapon instead of switching all the time, since dps is never an issue

[restive quarry]

might mean you can crank that damage up if you get the fire damage nodes in the skill tree

[prisma surge]

and what is "shroud armor" ?

[tawdry python]

Would have to use quite a few points in the wizard tree to get those extra fire damage

I think it simply improves your resistance to shroud damage from enemies in the shroud

[quasi saffron]

Sometimes I miss our CM.

But I guess the suggestion mines don't pickaxe themselves.

[queen rapids]

It was a bummer that the poison from the shroud arrows is unaffected by the shroud magic damage. or it was when i tried before the patch when it was called shroud damage.

[prisma surge]

Legendary Shadowbane that's a nice bow

[surreal perch]

this goes for everything not just 2h

[native parrot]

Nah, just for 2h

Momentum Talent

[tame seal]

Eh, stuff like bows/staffs (casting) you can use your weapons at range. 2H is defunct the moment you get hit.

[native parrot]

Yea but where's my legendary draconian shortbow?

[quasi saffron]

Where's my legendary eternal chain lightning.

[safe swan]

Where's the quiver slot for archers?

[subtle prawn]

It got banned for using hacks

[safe swan]

Just kidding. I'm not complaining since managing invetory well.

[native parrot]

Oooo your managing your inventory well?
Good for yoUuUuuu

[snow plaza]

How is your storage looking? 👀

[hardy sable]

What about your friendly neighbourhood moderator?

[quasi saffron]

Well you're dead. Did we got some more lively ones?

Or did you already emulate Portal Knights into Enshrouded?

[hardy sable]

I've been so tired as of late, I haven't really been playing either unfortunately. 😩

[safe swan]

Which one? Usually sorted and orderly.

[quasi saffron]

Means... You're deadly tired inside?

[hardy sable]

Feels like it 💀

[quasi saffron]

Can feel with u.
I'm at a low also.

[snow plaza]

That’s the one and only way

[hardy sable]

I've rematch Loki again. I really enjoy the soundtrack from the series. It's pretty unique and very well done!

[safe swan]

If you feel low, I'd suggest to to take break (if you can) and do other things that you like. 🙂

[hardy sable]

Ha, yeah been there tried that. Although, I did try changing the topic as I don't really want the chat to get dreary. I'm currently listening to https://youtu.be/yV_76cm2BWU gets pretty interesting about 1 minute in.

[quasi saffron]

It's not about Enshrouded actually.
I don't rest well lately.

[hardy sable]

I blame my dogs for my lack of sleep 🤣

[quasi saffron]

But hey. In 10m I have work off.

[safe swan]

Well, I hope you two feel better soon.

[quasi saffron]

I hope so.
Also I'm at my castle Dungeons.
I cannot give up yet. I need a big treasure chamber.

[stray gust]

cant find the topic, will be there map generator in future, or it will be fixed map only?

[paper totem]

Not 100% sure, but I'm fairly certain they intended to be a fixed map, curated experience.

[stray gust]

Thanks! 🙂 I am fine with any of the solution, I just want to know what to expect as I am moving onto this from Valheim

[paper totem]

Gotcha, yeah I played the heck out of valheim as well.

[raw salmon]

Anyone knows how to duplicate materials. Huhu 😭

[pliant quarry]

I mean there are cheated worlds with thousands of everything if you're into that

[chilly sparrow]

hahahah like it's a genre

[quiet geyser]

Not sure if the team is aware. But I had a player use cheated items ( not to my knowledge ) on our build project kingdom about a month ago come to find out he caused our server to lag so bad it was unplayable till we figured out he cheated to get his blocks and once we removed them from the world the lag was gone. Not sure what cheats he used but just a FYI 🙂

[quasi saffron]

My Flameborn.
Always 3 jumps away from becoming... eh... pregnant with his cape. Hope it's allowed to say it like that.

[pliant quarry]

Was it the items themselves, or just the quantity of them?

We're definitely aware people can cheat items, and to be honest we aren't too worried about that. The game is hosted locally/on private servers, so if people want to cheat they're generally only really cheating themselves/their friends. But if there's something they can do to potentially lag other people's games we might need to see what's goin on there.

[raw salmon]

This is good info im very conflicted to either spawn items.

I would just grind mindlessly hahaha

[copper apex]

tbh thats sounds absolutly weird, how are some blocks able to lag your world - makes no sense at all - plus nobody ever reported that anywhere, while a lot players cheat their blocks here and there

[quiet geyser]

To my knowledge he either duplicated or used a cheat engine. I'm not to smart in that department myself because I don't like to cheat lol.

But from what we gathered was he used strictly only the big square block which costs the most ( blocks ) and what he built was pretty big wasn't small or anything. But my point in this is once we started to remove anything and everything he placed ( blocks ) the lag got tremendously better once all gone it was playable again.

And the lag problems I'm talking about are..

• invisible blocks when building ( huge one )
• the floor doesn't floor properly meaning the characters feet will glitch into the floor looking like half your legs are into the ground
• you will get stuck on altars or beds when fast traveling or sleep

We also experienced a bunch of freezing when going anywhere near the area he built

[outer walrus]

It might litterally be a case of scale

[copper apex]

its sad we cant post .gifs here 😅

[copper apex]

it sounds def. wild, thats for sure

[subtle prawn]

It's for the better

[outer walrus]

I can't imagine the devs magically fixed "big complex structures built out of many smaller parts cause lag after a certain point"

[copper apex]

yea true, i wouldve posted a very sarcastic one 🤪

[outer walrus]

Did good optimising to raise that point sure, but still

[subtle prawn]

Some systems probably will always have issues with huge detailed structures

[pliant quarry]

Yeah this is less an "issue" and more just a reality of how computers work haha, there's probably still small improvements to be made, but obviously the more complexity you add the more demanding it will be on your cpu and GPU

[outer walrus]

Yeah y'all have done great with the optimisation so far

Especially for an early access game

The game did still push me to realise that I might need to upgrade my 1080

But even then, performance + one or two mildly increased settings plays and looks great.

[pliant quarry]

Yeah voxel based games are really really demanding on GPUs, and ours is very high fidelity compared to most voxel based games. I think we can probably get the min requirements a bit lower, but it's no easy feat

[prisma frost]

Hi Toast

[stoic shale]

just buy better GPUs people, what is the problem

[outer walrus]

"What are they, stupid?"

(joke)

[warped citrus]

That’s why Xbox and PlayStations get away with lower end components… everyone on their platform has the exact (for the most part) same system to they only need to optimize for that… whereas on pc there’s a million different rig combinations… and that’s just the client side too…

[stoic shale]

@pliant quarry who was it and how baked was he that decided that weapons should have such low durability

I'm going to need a name

probably the worst part of the game, hit mobs 4 times and go repair

[subtle prawn]

Toast implemented it himself to mess with you

[stoic shale]

toast needs to be fired then

[quasi saffron]

It was me! Ha ha! Suffer in low durability!

Let your weapons break like sticks from Tears of the Kingdom!

[pliant quarry]

The blacksmith

[quasi saffron]

Poor Oswald.
Wait.. Hes a dev?
Why am I still here?!
Time to go pester him!
Tries to communicate with him in a awkward Link-style.

[stoic shale]

I somehow knew you wouldn't say, since it is embarresing for the person who thought it was a great idea

[pliant quarry]

That's also just not really how game development works, most features aren't just randomly tossed into a game by a single developer for no reason

[quasi saffron]

I mean...
That weapons break does make sense. Also Tools.
How much durability would you set the weapons? Theres a point in them breaking. Did u upgrade them? Also, it forces you to at least use 2-3 weapons as melee, instead of brute force your way with solely one.

[stoic shale]

so you are saying one developer had this brilliant idea and all the other people at the table just started clapping like "wow great idea!! bravo!"

because durability should be like 4x more than it currently is

it is so bad that repair benches had to be added every room or so in halls

[pliant quarry]

Yep actually, we just have one dev and stand around clapping for 8 hours a day

[quasi saffron]

Is there any blood left in his hands?

[radiant dragon]

He must be very skilled

[stoic shale]

is it really a good game design

[tame seal]

It's a fantastic design.

[stoic shale]

so fantastic

[signal ocean]

I've decided to take sarcasm as face value, as it makes my life a lot easier

[stoic shale]

🙂

[tame seal]

Healthy decision.

[signal ocean]

"dear diary: today user Stigur Starym was very appreciative of the hard work going into the design of weapon durability. It made my heart soar and then I moved on with my life. I'll talk to you more tomorrow because it is past 6pm and I'm about to turn back into a pumpkin. Love, your CUB"

[gentle forum]

https://tenor.com/view/everyone-is-beautiful-everyone-is-dear-diary-writing-why-am-i-like-this-gif-14512576

[stoic shale]

was it hard work to make it so low? 😮

[brittle iron]

Oh please, we all know the hardest job in the world is passive aggressively complaining on discord

[misty swan]

Durability is really poorly tuned right now and could probably handle a rework if something better can be conceived.

[tame seal]

At the start of playing, i would have agreed about durability being low. But after playing for too many hours, i've actually come to appreciate the low durability forcing me to use other weapons, it has a double strike, making the low variety (Single click) combat a lot less tedious.

[gentle forum]

Do people just ignore the repair anvils??

[sullen talon]

id:customize

[gentle forum]

I think I've had a weapon break three times in my 600 hrs

[misty swan]

The point is that there shouldn't need to be repair anvils.

Then you dont use wands primoris

[tame seal]

Likewise, because i use multiple weapons 😄

[misty swan]

and have never tanked in the hollow halls

[brittle iron]

I dislike durability mechanics in pretty much any game. No need to throw hissy fits over it though, it can be alleviated pretty easily by carrying 1-2 spare weapons

[gentle forum]

I use a sword, wand, bow, staff depending on what I'm fighting.

[gentle forum]

I've soloed all four at both low level and max levels, as melee, magic and ranged.

[stoic shale]

it's one thing to have to repair, I kind of like that, but being that weapons are already half life after one fight is just bananas

[misty swan]

then you're lying about not breaking a weapon

[pliant quarry]

Yeah I mean that's a totally fair feedback, I was mostly not addressing the other user because they were being needlessly overdramatic and tossing insults around over an incredibly minor issue. But there are definitely players who don't like how low durability is and the team is aware of that feedback :)

[misty swan]

it definately isnt game breaking and its not something i would expect to be well tuned at this point in early access - but it needs a look.

[pliant quarry]

Yep I agree, it can be a bit needlessly tedious

[barren ether]

honestly ive never had a weapon break on me because i always carry a spare altar and a workbench

[tame seal]

I have two outlooks on it currently. Either keep it the way it is, or get rid of it entirely.

[brittle iron]

200 IQ strats

[misty swan]

having to carry 2 primary weapons and 3 wands - and then my bow literally never takes any durability damage ever (but maybe thats because ammo sucks?)

[brittle iron]

Bows do not lose durability at all

Oh, I guess thats what you meant nvm

:D

[barren ether]

i only carry one 2H melee, one wand and one staff for eternal heal

[misty swan]

So saying you've never had a weapon break but then also carrying a secondary or tertiary weapon to switch two when your others get low is kind of clownish and completely ignores the actual point of the critique, does it not?

[tame seal]

What is the problem with carrying multiple weapons though?

[barren ether]

do you mean me? because i only use the wand for flyers and the staff to heal

[signal cobalt]

Nothing. In many games, i do that

[misty swan]

nothing, if they are meant to fill multiple roles or combat niches, but if im carrying 3 swords of radiance that is something else.

[queen rapids]

Ah yeah, Kira lives in a coocoon!

[barren ether]

there isnt... some people ignore the anvils thats all

[sly lion]

anyone else having the issue of revelwood spire not letting you interact with it to unlock it

[brittle iron]

There is no inherent problem with it, however I think there are better ways to incentivize the use of different weapons

[tame seal]

If you want them to fill niches you can make them fill niches. Having weapons with different dmg types, means you more efficiently kill different types of mobs, meaning you use your durability less.

[barren ether]

leave the server and join again, should fix it

[sly lion]

left joined then left closed game came in and still nothing ive done this puzzel four times now no idea why it wont let me unlock

[misty swan]

restart the server

[sly lion]

its just a world not a server

[barren ether]

maybe you havent finished the tower puzzle?

[tame seal]

I mean, the easiest way to do it different is to make mobs completely immune to certain dmg types, then we can remove durability entirely.

[brittle iron]

Maybe they will let us powerstance weapons like in DS2/Elden Ring eventually 👀

[sly lion]

i did followed a video tutorial and all

[wraith tangle]

It runs horrible for me and Im on a mid end pc
i7 12700k
3060 ti
ddr4 32gb ram

[brittle iron]

I don't think durability adds or detracts from how monster resistances work

[wraith tangle]

sorry for late reply to that

[barren ether]

want me to join and check it out?

[sly lion]

you can

[tame seal]

It doesn't, but when you want another incentive to use difference weapons, that isn't durability, that's an alternative.

[stoic shale]

I also trust strangers on the internet

[brittle iron]

The fact is that you are generally already skilled into a specific weapon/build type, so having to switch feels like gimping yourself in a way. That leads to people just carrying around 2-3 of the same weapon type, which is fine, but not necessarily a boon

[gentle forum]

Please refrain from typing like that.

[misty swan]

I have only two big criticisms of the game - the inventory management (which is my criticism of every survival-craft game) and the fact that the netcode is server authoritative.

[tame seal]

What would you want changed in inventory management?

[barren ether]

added you on discord, vc?

[brittle iron]

I personally don't mind carrying around several melee weapons, but they don't feel different enough to make me switch unless something breaks, which means (subjectively speaking) it doesn't add to the experience

[stoic shale]

inventory management is fine but I would like to see like a 'vault' or a super magic chest that links all chests together (and have filter options) so there is no need to run and find the correct chest

[misty swan]

Let me desposit to all with a hotkey when I am nearby - or better yet make all magic chests contribute to one large inventory and connect to that large inventory from any magic chest in the flame. Add buttons to sort categories and a search bar and viola - inventory issues solved permamently. - while also all of a sudden having the absolute best inventory management of any survival crafter on the market

[brittle iron]

Some more interesting ways would be weapon combos, dual wielding, or as you said more pronounced weaknesses/strengths on monsters

[misty swan]

i believe i heard they are working on animations for dual weilding already - it will be interesting to see if they allow 1h weapons to go in the shield slot or if a dual weilding weapon combo will look like a single item in the inventory

[brittle iron]

Or new weapon types like spears etc. But I am sure the devs have a lot of plans already considering the game is still in EA 😄

[wraith tangle]

So where's the rules so I know what to type and what not to type like

[tame seal]

I completely agree, i carry around multiple weapons so that i don't get caught short by a broken weapon. And i doubt durability is a way that they intended to make people use multiple weapons. To me, it's always a shame in games when it gets to a stage and the only 'right' way to play or to do anything is to use one specific spec/weapon/armor for the rest of the game. The fact you are inadvertently forced to use multiple weapons is a welcome addition in my book (Albeit, there are much better ways to 'force' using multiple weapons)

[misty swan]

https://discord.com/channels/1046840540550942720/1047448730661560420

[wraith tangle]

Im blind

[queen rapids]

durability cought me off guard too.

[wraith tangle]

thank you, I could not see it at first

I do not see the rules unless I click on your text there. What is up with that

[tame seal]

I can understand your desire for more QOL, personally, before i see them working on even more QOL than what they've already got (Even just having magic chests that you can pull items from is more QOL than you get in a lot of games) I'd prefer them to work on core game mechanics and if need be... leave such QOL to the modders, which will be there eventually.

[tame seal]

If you click on channels and roles at the top of your list of channels then browse channels tab, you've probably got rules turned off.

[queen rapids]

QOL essenstials should not be through mods. Mods get broken each update, and suddenly the developer gets interst for another game.

[tame seal]

Essentials? I don't call what you're asking for essential.

Sorry, not what you're asking for, thought it was Saldar replying 😄

[queen rapids]

I haven't asked for anything. Just saying i disagree with your train of thought.

[wraith tangle]

Ahh there we go. I appreciate you.

[misty swan]

I think the biggest thing is Flame security - allow all, allow listed, allow only me, etc. To prevent teleporting to, building/destroying in, and accessing inventory from within a flame that isn't yours.
I want to invite people into my world to help and do hollow halls together but i'll be buggered if I am going to let someone come in and mess with me.

[upper galleon]

I think the current magic chest system is fine in terms on QOL for storage once we got the addition of nameplates to mark them ...to much streamlining takes away a bit to much immersion ...take teleportation for example.. its not every game that gets better by adding instant teleport to any and all locations

[misty swan]

Grounded is the benchmark, the bare minimum - new games and new devs should strive to surpass that - not just get close-ish.

[sullen talon]

anyone got a good server we can join

[tame seal]

Where do you draw the line?

[misty swan]

crafting pulls from nearby chests and deposit all from nearby - thats the minimum.

they already have half of it.

[tame seal]

By who's standard?

[misty swan]

mine

[tame seal]

By what standard?

[misty swan]

my standard

[queen rapids]

I think probably would be wise to balance focus on single player and multi-player as both can share bugs each of them opens up their own realm of bugs, related to wheter the game is a multi-playuer or not. For multi-player related bugs to surface, players needs incentives to play in multi-player, meaning, it is relatively safe or at least not downright one sided.

[tame seal]

So simply because it's your standard, all games devs should be doing it?

[misty swan]

By what authority do you get to tell me where my expectations have to be set?

[upper galleon]

not every game need to copy every system.. to much streamlining.. or streamlinging that work in one game might not work well in another

[misty swan]

No one has to respect or even acknowledge my expectations, but i have them all the same.

[upper galleon]

..I respect your opinion I just don't agree with it

[tame seal]

Okay, fair.

[wraith umbra]

They should add hot deposit for sure, but then I want a new QoL feature: The ability to designate slots in chests for an item type alone.

[misty swan]

No, but every game should try to iterate and improve on old, tired tropes within their genre.

[wraith umbra]

That way I can always deposit up to 8 stacks of wood, but never more

[tame seal]

Can i entice you to consider the actual games devs in your expectation analysis as well?

[brittle iron]

I'd imagine it is a much requested feature, but probably low on the devs' list

[tame seal]

Can i just have items deposited into my magical bank as soon as it touches my inventory?

[wraith umbra]

Len's Island style? Sure

[misty swan]

I am. If they make something truly amazing, innovative, and cool and they knock it out of the park with implementation that is going to equal word of mouth, which equals sales, which equals paydays.

[thorny fossil]

I just have separate chests for different item types. Like, I have one that’s all for building blocks

[wraith umbra]

I'd be fine with Len's Island style inventory, but expanded further

[tame seal]

Highly requested maybe, but who actually knows how long it actually takes, both time and money, to implement these 'simple' features?

[brittle iron]

Yeah agreed, it is not trivial

[thorny fossil]

So you want them to make something innovative by copying the way another game does it?

[misty swan]

It's their engine and we saw how fast they implemented inventory splitting with all the UI buildout and the ability to pull to machines from chests. The framework is clearly there.

[wraith tangle]

thousands of other games have taken things from other games its okay.

the world still turns'

[tame seal]

How quickly? Do you know for a fact that they didn't have any of these systems already started before EA started?

[misty swan]

im a full stack developer and i understand the process and how everything is always more complicated than it looks from the front end - but I also know that there is ALWAYS a way.

[wraith umbra]

It's starting to slow down

[wraith tangle]

but still turning

[wraith umbra]

Maybe it's the copying of systems from other games that is causing that

[wraith tangle]

totally

[brittle iron]

I think true crime podcasts copying off each other is a much stronger force tbh

That shit could stop gravity

[wraith umbra]

Do you want to get tidally locked? Because this is how you get tidally locked. Stop Hot Deposit now! End game system copying!

[misty swan]

i dont know where this peasant mentality that we should all be happy with what we are given and ask for and strive for no more comes from - but i absolutely hate it lol.

[upper galleon]

Another thing to consider . there is just so much dev. time. The inventory system and storage system is okej.. maybe not best in class but 100% okej... at will be absolutely fine once we also can get a way to name stuff with signs..

But unless you are into building there is no endgame once you have played through all areas once.. so for retention and playernumbers.. improving inventory system before for example adding more playable content would probably not be a priority

[wraith tangle]

those podcasts so cringe

my gf be watchin em

[tame seal]

Wow, we're peasants now, awesome.

[wraith umbra]

Depends on what the ask is, but yeah I generally hate it too

[tame seal]

Why does it always come down to name calling? 😄

[misty swan]

why called a name?

[wraith umbra]

Like if it's vision changing? Eww. Simple QoL? Whatever, add it if it works.

[upper galleon]

namecalling is what people resort to when running out of arguments 🙂

[misty swan]

i don't like victim mentalities either.

[tame seal]

I'm a victim?

[wraith tangle]

Maybe dont act like a peasant then

[tame seal]

Damn, revelations now.

[thorny fossil]

Turns out, there’s more than one way to make a game, and not just the way that you like

[wraith umbra]

I could make the case that peasants are victims of their oppresive society

[misty swan]

i didn't say that. I just put a random, arbitrary statement out there. if you read it and think it fits you that says more about you than me.

[wraith umbra]

Discord won't let me type an essay though

[wraith tangle]

ya dont say

[snow plaza]

no one wants to read that anyway

[misty swan]

I'm the one that's been getting shit on for the last 15 minutes because I dared to suggest that the dev's could improve their inventory management by adding the ability to deposit to all magic* chests from nearby with a hotkey - like grounded.

[brittle iron]

I have heard that essays are meant for twitter anyway. Splitting them up into 48 parts makes them more digestible to some people :^)

[wraith tangle]

Id hate for this man to play JRPGS hahahahah

[wraith umbra]

I'll have you proof read it

[wraith tangle]

all them games copy each other

[snow plaza]

no thank you

[wraith umbra]

Why Hot Deposit should come to Enshrouded, a thread: 1/429

[brittle iron]

I would retweet, if i had twitter

[upper galleon]

personally I wish they would ad a reason to go out at night other than having a little bit easier to find a few resources ..that you can still get farming..
there is pretty much no reason to explore in the dark (compare palworld for example with some pals only spawning at night as a reason to be out nighttime ..so loot specific to a certain time of the day)

[brittle iron]

[wraith tangle]

How about lets focus on optimization and performance first. 🙂

[tame seal]

If you're viewing the conversation as you being shit on, that's your problem not anyone elses.

[wraith tangle]

game runs like dog water

[wraith umbra]

They can do both

[snow plaza]

How about we talk about life 🙂

[wraith tangle]

but they shouldnt

[upper galleon]

I think the game runs okej.. but I guess that depends on the rig

[brittle iron]

Hows your life atm

[wraith tangle]

I get like 70-80 frames

[wraith umbra]

They absolutely should, they have a large enough team to do both where some specializations don't overlap.

[tame seal]

If my dogs water run like this game, i certainly wouldn't let my dog drink it.

[snow plaza]

could be better tbh, what about you?

[wraith tangle]

well hopefully they get on that then because game still runs like dog water

[upper galleon]

as long as the 70s are in the lows and no stutter I think its fine

[wraith umbra]

Voxel games man

[wraith tangle]

yeah no I need more than 90 frames

[wraith umbra]

They do be resource intensive

[brittle iron]

Same, but at least between jobs right now so kind of relaxing rn

[wraith tangle]

facts bro

[thorny fossil]

Yeah, I haven’t had too many performance problems, but I have a pretty decent rig. Nothing high-end but certainly above the minimums

[tame seal]

Complaining about 70-80 frames?! 🤣

[snow plaza]

#adultlife

[wraith tangle]

100%

[upper galleon]

For an FPS game I would to.. but for a crafting co op RPG I m totally fine with 60 as long as that is the lows

[snow plaza]

rest well!

[brittle iron]

😤 ✊

[brittle iron]

Thanks, I will try. What could be better about yours

[snow plaza]

still waiting for a 1.000.000 € check

[wraith tangle]

not to mention the antialiasing doesnt even work

[snow plaza]

anyone?

[wraith umbra]

Sorry, not this week

[brittle iron]

I would be fine with 100k tbh

[wraith tangle]

have you tried a job

they send you checks for free O:

[snow plaza]

I work full time

[brittle iron]

For free? What kinda job does that

[snow plaza]

thank you for the tip though never thought about it

[queen rapids]

Which AA are you trying to use?

DLAA seem to work for me.

[wraith tangle]

Yeah all you gotta do is show up and do work and you get free money

[snow plaza]

mindblown

damn

[wraith tangle]

hmm I cant remmebr

[snow plaza]

peace out

[wraith tangle]

I think I tried all

[wraith umbra]

bye frie

[brittle iron]

Strange definition of free

[wraith tangle]

well I mean it is free isnt it

[wraith umbra]

DLSS and FSR work fine

[wraith tangle]

you dont have to invest anything

[wraith umbra]

The only other option they provide is FXAA and I wouldn't bother with it

[brittle iron]

Except selling your time, body and workforce :^)

[snow plaza]

bye Adall ||I know why I'm not active on here anymore lol||

[wraith umbra]

yup

[wraith tangle]

time is free

[tame seal]

There's good reasons not to be.

[brittle iron]

Well yeah. It is free time unless you are working

[wraith umbra]

Time is not free, it is a finite resource for any living creature

[wraith tangle]

so you have to pay for it

[queen rapids]

you basically take your free time and sell it to your employer...

[wraith tangle]

yes

[thorny fossil]

Money can be exchanged for goods and services!

[wraith tangle]

crazy huh

[brittle iron]

It is pretty crazy

[native parrot]

Crazy?

[wraith tangle]

Crazy

[native parrot]

You rang?

[brittle iron]

Yeah, like the Gnarls Barkley song

[wraith tangle]

whos rangy

[native parrot]

Autowrong
I need autocorrect

[snow plaza]

u need Jesus

[wraith tangle]

hahaha all g bro

[native parrot]

No I don't.

F dat

[wraith tangle]

big fact

[native parrot]

I need jinzo

[queen rapids]

Something we call all agree on, this game needs cats, or some sort of pet! right?

[wraith tangle]

I need some cheese fries w/ jalapenos

[brittle iron]

Vukah puppies

[wraith tangle]

hell yeah Im with it

[brittle iron]

Mini ewoks

[wraith tangle]

haha

[queen rapids]

lol 😂

[thorny fossil]

Games should offer cheese fries at a minimum. Otherwise they’re not innovative and won’t make money

[pliant quarry]

When are the devs gonna add quick building hotkeys so I can start cranking 90s like in fortnite

[wraith tangle]

this

[thorny fossil]

Let us tame goats please

[queen rapids]

When they are working for Epic? Just a hunch?

[wraith umbra]

I hear Keen games was purchased by Epic

[native parrot]

[pliant quarry]

Awesome can't wait to get laid off

[brittle iron]

Bad choice, better go to Tencent

[wraith umbra]

Keep pushing the fortnite jokes and they will keep you on

[brittle iron]

[wraith umbra]

The kids love fortnite jokes

[wraith tangle]

I love fortnite

[wraith umbra]

I feel like the monster energy avatar gave that away

[native parrot]

Oh oh oh I can relate.

Um...
....
Cactus juice?

[wraith tangle]

before they added seasons tho

[wraith tangle]

hahahahaha

[tame seal]

I thought they were purchased by activision?

[pliant quarry]

I remember playing the fortnite alpha when nobody knew what it was and it was a weird zombie game with an identity crisis lol

[native parrot]

Everyone cracking jokes until Disney buys out Keen

[pliant quarry]

Was very bizzare watching it do... what it did

[wraith umbra]

This game needs more larged eyed CGI princesses

[native parrot]

Scrap it's original tower defence style and instead go full Battle Royale?
Ye little odd

[wraith tangle]

I started playing final fantasy online for that reason

[brittle iron]

Why not go for anime waifus right away? Like Code Vein or sth

[queen rapids]

that really sounds bizarre. 😮

[brittle iron]

I guess Bandai Namco or a similar company would have to buy Keen though

[snow plaza]

No

[native parrot]

https://tenor.com/view/big-eyes-eye-roll-creepy-eyes-gif-14278582

[brittle iron]

I mean I agree, but it would probably draw new players

[wraith umbra]

Not the right kind of players

[pliant quarry]

I mean the zombie mode still exists it's called fortnite save the world, it just got completely overshadowed by the battle royale mode they added (Which was initially just something the developers basically made for fun)

[native parrot]

We could totally use some anime waifus. I agree

[brittle iron]

Definitely the right kind if you intend to sell cosmetic DLC

[native parrot]

Look at vindictus 😅

Selling cosmetic dlc is basically how they're still around

[queen rapids]

Isn't Keen German, it will be bar maids and lederhosen, probably.

[wraith umbra]

Wow that's racist

[brittle iron]

Just googled it, yeah looks about like what I expected lmao

[native parrot]

Would.

[snow plaza]

Dirndl abuse

[tame seal]

I mean, fortnite will definitely be remembered for breeding a generation of gamers.

[wraith tangle]

holy shit havent heard that in years

[brittle iron]

Dw they aren't bavarian

Frankfurt is full of finance bros and crypto millionaires

[native parrot]

All I'm gonna say is that I've saved images of outfits I wanted to buy in vindictis.
And most of them would not be considered appropriate to post.

[wraith umbra]

Sounds like hell on earth

[tame seal]

Enshrouded NFT's when?

[pliant quarry]

Nah you're thinking of Houston

[brittle iron]

It is actually a very nice city if you can look past that (and walk out of the area around the train station)

[wraith umbra]

Houston is just sticky

[native parrot]

No that's Earth Defence Force

[native parrot]

https://tenor.com/view/houston-hoxton-payday-payday2-pdth-gif-21547924

[wraith umbra]

Sounds like Seattle really, but replace finance with tech

[native parrot]

Hehehehehehehe

[wraith umbra]

very nice city, someone broke the culture

[brittle iron]

From all the second hand knowledge I have about Seattle, yeah pretty accurate 😄

[wraith umbra]

We'll I relay my first hand knowledge to you

[native parrot]

via a backhand

[brittle iron]

The average European knows some cities on the west coast (LA, Portland, Seattle etc), some cities on the east coast (NYC, Miami) and the rest of the US is like a big blackbox inbetween kek

[wraith umbra]

That's the same for us too, don't worry

[brittle iron]

🤝

[tame seal]

Was gonna say, that's basically the same the other way around.

[native parrot]

Canadians also don't know much about East countries but we're expected to know.

[tawdry python]

Nope that's Chicago🤣

[native parrot]

The windy city?

[upper galleon]

depending on what computer games you play 🙂

[brittle iron]

Well yeah, you are the cooler Americans. Or something like that

[brittle iron]

GeoGuessr enthusiast?

[native parrot]

No nononono
Not cooler.
please don't call us cooler than them they're RIGHT THERE

[tame seal]

I hear a lot of people get their geographical knowledge from games like EU 😄

[native parrot]

Hello _aydog

[brittle iron]

Going by stereotypes, you would have to apologize on my behalf and say "eh?"

[tawdry python]

That's a slang name for Chicago because of the winds coming off lake Michigan.

[brittle iron]

I am slightly disappointed neither of the two happened

[native parrot]

I know Chicago is the windy city. That's why I said it.

Woosh

Wooooooosh

[wraith umbra]

Chicago is a fly over city

[brittle iron]

I only know because Kanye mentions it a lot..

[astral hull]

I heard Chicago is actually kinda cool to visit

[native parrot]

Not to stay

[wraith umbra]

I feel that way about california

[native parrot]

For even a night

Woooooooooooosh

[wraith umbra]

I could never live there, but what a lovely place to visit

[astral hull]

You don’t like paying 3k a month for a studio apartment? Weird

[upper galleon]

no no.. I meant more like a general statement.. since a lot of pop culture like movies and computer games takes place in the US... I think a lot of Europeans have a bit of knowledge due to TV shows ..and especially if you play some computergames ..like hearts of Iron.. and other with strategic maps of the real world

[tawdry python]

It has 1 of the worst crime rates for cities in the USA, NYC is starting to go bad too. Los Angeles, Portland Oregon, Denver, San Francisco, Seattle are all becoming bad too.

[brittle iron]

I see, fair enough

I play geography quizzes on sporcle at work, so I can pinpoint the 50 states at least :^)

[queen rapids]

Division 2. Washington DC and Manhatten,

[wraith umbra]

lol no

[tawdry python]

20 years ago it had some nice areas but not anymore

[pliant quarry]

That's better than I can say and I live here

[tawdry python]

State capitals too?

[astral hull]

Let’s just embrace the hermit life and live in a cave somewhere

[brittle iron]

Time to get into geography quizzes (maybe not during work time )

[brittle iron]

Yes!

[pliant quarry]

Mostly cause they're boring, who cares which ones Connecticut and which ones Delaware or whatever

[queen rapids]

Everybody have heard about the watergate hotel, in dvision 2 you can run from the white house to the hotel and see where it is actually located

[pliant quarry]

I knew them it's just fairly useless info so I stopped knowing them haha, I probably know the layout of Europe much better than my own country

[tawdry python]

I actually want to buy a large chunk of land, just don't quite have enough yet. So have to wait another year.

[pliant quarry]

Especially the little ones in the East... It's all just New York and not New York to me

[astral hull]

In North Dakota?

[wraith umbra]

I watched a lovely video of some guy tier listing state flags yesterday

[brittle iron]

That's true, not really useful information

[wraith umbra]

You forget how bad state flags are

[astral hull]

I’m biased but I think California has one of the coolest ones

[tawdry python]

It's good to exercise the mind like exercising your body.😁

[wraith tangle]

shit I hit the hub at least twice a day

[native parrot]

Many flags are relatively boring

I mean, look at ours:
🇨🇦
3 lines and a fckin leaf

[pliant quarry]

I don't care if the maryland flag is an abomination I still love it

[brittle iron]

Pretty cool leaf tho

At least you have something on your flag

[native parrot]

Spikey leaf

[wraith umbra]

He gave it S tier

[pliant quarry]

I lived in Colorado when they changed their flag over to the new one, and it was really interesting to see how much a simple flag change did. Now you see Colorado flags EVERYWHERE, even outside of Colorado

Before you never saw it

[wraith umbra]

New Mexico has the best flag

Washington's flag sucks

[native parrot]

🇲🇪 dis one?

Idk flags

🇲🇴 nice

[brittle iron]

I like Hawaii, looks like a cursed mix between US, UK and a German state

[pliant quarry]

I grew up in Michigan and I genuinely despise our flag, it's disgusting

Nobody flies it anywhere, most people who live in Michigan have no idea that this is even our flag

[native parrot]

Pluribus unum sounds like a character from Rick n Morty

[brittle iron]

The dark blue is.. not it

[wraith umbra]

At least you aren't minnesota

[native parrot]

Also who puts corn 🌽 inside their quiver and then give it to an eagle to carry?

[wraith umbra]

I think like 25-50% of the US state flags are dark blue backgrounds with some insane seal on it

[pliant quarry]

Half the state flags are just dark blue background with government seal on the front, like that one. It's horrible lol

[brittle iron]

[wraith umbra]

The US is not good at flags

Some breakthrough performances though

[native parrot]

🇦🇫
This is the most flag af
:flag_af

[brittle iron]

Some of the seals look decent, but the background color is ruining it

[wraith umbra]

Too much detail for a flag though

[pliant quarry]

Nepal flag is funny because they got wacky with the shape

🇳🇵

[wraith umbra]

still, that's awesome

Not everything has to be a box

[native parrot]

#flag-discussion

[pliant quarry]

Royal decree this is now officially a vexillology server

[native parrot]

Cats be like:
How dare you.

I have never heard the word vexillology in my life

If I were to guess, it would have been the study of vexing people.

[pliant quarry]

You are on the internet, right now, right at this moment. Google is quite literally a few clicks away

[native parrot]

Yes.
But I'm lazy.

Actually, you know what? Fine.

[brittle iron]

🇧🇧 Barbados has a rad trident

[native parrot]

The study of flags

[wraith umbra]

I'm just waiting for the northwest to secede from the union so I can wave my cascadia flag

[brittle iron]

Suffers from the same blue-yellow combination sadly

[native parrot]

The colors of kindergarten

Will your favourite colour be blue? Or yellow?
Also:
Look at blue sky, its healthy for you, but don't look at the yellow sun, it's bad for you.

Not even kidding this was a part of my childhood

[brittle iron]

Look at both at the same time and you get green

which is objectively the most based color

[native parrot]

It'd thr colour of that thing we all need to go outside and touch

What was it called again,m

[brittle iron]

Frog?

[native parrot]

Asparagus?

[wraith tangle]

Pot

and monster energy

[brittle iron]

Saudi arabia is also pretty green

[native parrot]

Also iceland

🇮🇸

Though thr flag aint green

[brittle iron]

Iceland is a funny country, really wanna go there one day

Basically the population of a small city spread out over a huge island

[native parrot]

I'm realizing that most flags were designed by people I wouldn't want to divide my pizza.
They can't seem to make symmetrical cuts

[brittle iron]

Now that you put it like that... 🤔

[native parrot]

And then there's the Vatican.
A population of an entire island. Squished into a single small city

[brittle iron]

Basically the Qatar of Europe

Rich old men

[native parrot]

Who also don't allow beer at events

Sorry that's getting a little political

[brittle iron]

which should be criminal

[native parrot]

It should be.

[brittle iron]

Beer is one of the few things making big masses of people tolerable

[queen rapids]

Bears too, keeps the masses down, and very bio friendly.

[wraith tangle]

🌳 for me

[native parrot]

🇨🇱🇦🇮🇦🇽🇫🇴🇫🇮🇮🇸like symmetry for pizza wher

THESE ppl could cut my pizza any day.🇲🇰

[brittle iron]

Macedonia

[native parrot]

Pizzaaaaaaaaaaa

I just ate and now I'm hungry again smh

[brittle iron]

UK gotta work on their angling, but the idea is there 🇬🇧

[queen rapids]

you know angling is fishing right?

[brittle iron]

No, but I guess it still works in that case

They did screw over their fishermen with brexit-ing

That is definitely too political though

[native parrot]

NUH UH!

:p

[queen rapids]

angling is more the hobby/sport type of fishing though.

[native parrot]

Angling is that thing engineers do when building a truss bridge

[prisma frost]

Hi uncle

[native parrot]

Hello boom

[brittle iron]

It is "Angeln" in German as well actually

[native parrot]

What, they too good for the i

Angelin

Angle goes in!

[elder parrot]

Was there some sort of flag revolution or war happening here earlier? ^^

[native parrot]

Straight line comes out

Its a bending unit

Like Bender Rodriguez

[brittle iron]

Maybe we wanted to imply that the act of fishing is somehow angelic

Dunno, gotta ask the people who came up with our strange language

[queen rapids]

Well, a more suitable title for bender in enshrouded is Titanius Anglesmith, Fancy man of Cornwood

[elder parrot]

Kantig means 'full of edges' in swedish ^^

[prisma frost]

What does the new npc do?

[wraith umbra]

When is angling coming to Embervale?

[brittle iron]

same in German :D

[elder parrot]

Ah ^^

[brittle iron]

Swedish is pretty cool, I only know a few phrases though

[elder parrot]

Imma be more 'cirkulär' ^^

[distant lantern]

Kantig means nothing in my language

[wraith umbra]

Nothing, just stands there. I don't get it

[brittle iron]

Like Kryddsmör or Du gamla, du fria, du fjällhöga nord

[prisma frost]

I know Tak

[native parrot]

I would, but I bet they don't speak my stupid language XD

[elder parrot]

Swedish and german pretty similar in some cases, just some different word-choices in places

[brittle iron]

Are you from Quebec? :^) (No offense intended to the French)

[elder parrot]

Lol kryddsmör ^^ very useful word or such

[queen rapids]

both are germanic languages tho.

[native parrot]

Je parlais suelment Anglais.

[brittle iron]

One of the few things I remember from a sweden vacation

[elder parrot]

What kind of english you said Uncle zen? ^^

You speak something english ^^

[native parrot]

I am not from Quebec. And its ok, you can diss the Canadian French if talking to a Canadian.
We know.

[prisma frost]

Uncle is french?

[native parrot]

Quebecois French is not French French

[elder parrot]

Suelment hmm ponders

[native parrot]

Nein

[queen rapids]

In swedish i am a norrbagge.

[brittle iron]

suelment = solely?

[hearty pond]

in my culture you would be an onion bagge

[elder parrot]

Norsk milawren? ^^

[native parrot]

I misspell it cuz of how much I care

[prisma frost]

wo ist es?

[queen rapids]

Indeed

[lament root]

Savan, lengwI'pu. So, reading hot news in Conan Exiles subReddit, I expect more newcomers in Enshrouded.

[native parrot]

Je ne parlais un autra lang

[elder parrot]

I speak mostly Ellisian english and ellisian swedish. Closely related to both but diff ^^

[prisma frost]

What is the hot news on Conan?

[elder parrot]

Part 4 something and still battlepasses? ^^

[native parrot]

Co Naanbread

[prisma frost]

Battle pass

[lament root]

They got another crappy update that makes the game much less comfy to play.

UI changes especially.

[elder parrot]

Thralls never get to be comfy, its fair

^^

Clubbed down and dragged home in ropes,,they dont complain ^^

[lament root]

I mean mostly changes in User Interface.

[wraith umbra]

Everyone hates UI changes for like a week

[elder parrot]

I think i last played it around part 1 something of that 'age of stuff', tho i only singleplayed and build with 200 extra clutter deco items mods.

*singleplayer

[formal furnace]

Bruh I like the ability to sit in chairs

[wraith umbra]

W tech

[formal furnace]

W tech?

[carmine scroll]

how many different rooftiles do we have?

[queen rapids]

6 i think

unless there is any new one in the recent update

[carmine scroll]

i need a nice fancy one for my banquet haul

[queen rapids]

What do you mean fancy? Glossy and covered in RBG?

Honestly i think roof tile block can be quite classy when done right.

[carmine scroll]

something nicer than clay or straw.

i plan on using the tarred clay for all my little houses but my banquet hall needs like a lumber roof or something.

[queen rapids]

Even Trumps mansion have these terracotta roof tiles. just as an example.

[carmine scroll]

i just want a more "traditional" style roof

like something to match refined wood.

or to make it viking-esque

[plucky ingot]

Wasn't main viking roofs made out of wooden shingles historically?

[prisma surge]

They were made from the skin of their slain enemies

[queen rapids]

the tarred shingle roof tiles is kind of viking-esque

see screenshots

[carmine scroll]

i just want another option. 😭

let me have lumber roofs...

[prisma surge]

Out of all the block textures there's only about 4 or 5 I like

Only one of them is a wood texture

[queen rapids]

lumber roofs? Are we talking about ceiling or roofs?

[carmine scroll]

me: why is this persons name yellow. lets vheck their profile.
gets instantly blinded
you monster.....

[prisma surge]

cedar shakes for roofs is common and goes back a ways

[queen rapids]

google stave church and you'll see that they used as angel R says wooden shingles a 1000 years ago.

[raw salmon]

hey guys what exactly is a build version im kinda confuse on this topic is my build or is it the game ?

[plucky ingot]

Wait, wha? Is something wrong with my profile? Should just say that I'm the wiki personnel

[queen rapids]

Wiki witch of the west

[plucky ingot]

Why not the east or noth tho?

[queen rapids]

because of hollywood

[prisma glade]

@plucky ingot I'm gonna guess it's the white background lol.

[queen rapids]

it was a play on "the wicked witch of the west from Wizard of Oz

[plucky ingot]

Ooooooh, I would have never guessed, let me fix that

My profile works now okay? No concusions, blinding, dizzyness, confusion, flashing lights and so on?

[queen rapids]

Never happened anything like that on my screen.

[plucky ingot]

Well dont want to people to be blinded or anything. Thanks for the heads up

back to the WIKI CAVE

[queen rapids]

it is a cave now? when i first got here it was just a pot hole.

[plucky ingot]

See you in your dreams

[grave tree]

lol

[queen rapids]

just watch out for freddy

[runic terrace]

do i need to create a new world to experience the new added things from the update? or does it get added to my current world since the generation isn’t random

[muted tiger]

https://store.steampowered.com/app/2719590/Light_No_Fire/
This looks amazing!

[queen rapids]

No, but some of the content might be too easy as it spread out through the levels

[runic terrace]

ah that is fine i haven’t gotten too far i mostly have just been building a base 😀

[tepid drift]

#other-games

[carmine scroll]

ITS BRIGHT WHITE

lol how can people stand light mode

lol you didnt have to change it though!

[tawdry python]

I'm guessing you're talking about how you put points in the skill tree, armor and weapons used.

[dire kraken]

If I would use light mode I would be blind by now

Source: I'm a developer and regulary work in the middle of the night

[wary pulsar]

is there any servers that are open for people to join and take buidling resources from?

[pliant quarry]

Some sites it's tolerable, but yeah most it's blinding

[plucky ingot]

I personally didn't even know I have any colour or scheme behind it. I didn't touch that stuff. But I changed it so people would not have temporary or permanent damage when they look at my profile. First I will make people trust that my profile is safe to look at..........

[dire kraken]

sites sure.
But have you seen IDEs in lightmode. absolute horror

[pliant quarry]

My profile is pretty bright because I made it bread colors lol

[dire kraken]

But does it taste like bread too?

[pliant quarry]

Discord is also horrible in light mode, it genuinely hurts my eyes. Zero contrast, just pure white lol

[queen rapids]

never seen discord in bright mode. I didn't even know that was an option.

[wraith umbra]

Everything is horrible in light mode

dark mode is the ultimate aesthetic, any variant of it

[pliant quarry]

It used to be the default in the before times

[queen rapids]

No it wasn't. It has been dark since the start afaik. I remember discord was just a website in beta.

[wraith umbra]

yeah I don't think discord launched with light mode

[pliant quarry]

I started using it in Sep 2015 and I'm fairly sure it was light mode at first, but I don't think it lasted long.

Or maybe that's a false memory idk

It always had both options, I just thought it defaulted to light

[dire kraken]

https://imgur.com/a/yS5imXr

There you go

[queen rapids]

Yeah i believe you, just for me it defaulted to dark mode.

[dire kraken]

Started in April 2016 and Darkmode was standard

man..

Now I realize that I use discord for 8 years now

why am I old

[safe swan]

Oh, it has been around that long?

[pliant quarry]

Yep mid 2015 ish

[safe swan]

I joined around 2016 after a friend mentioned it.

[queen rapids]

may 2015. I had an older account but back then, some accounts bugged out bedcause of nickname conflicts and whatnot.

[pliant quarry]

I was just mad that they gave my username on my mid 2015 account to a user who made their account in late 2016

And neither of us had nitro... That rollout made no sense

[dire kraken]

I mean that sorted that out with the namechange stuff I guess

but man was I mad. Seriously messed with a few bots I made

[queen rapids]

it was before the hashtag number ID

[pliant quarry]

I don't understand why they did that rollout, I can't think of any financial upside and it removed a big reason why people purchased nitro

and pissed off a LOT of people lol

[dire kraken]

🤷‍♂️

I assume it's due to future maintainability

[queen rapids]

Too many users? it was only four numbers.

[pliant quarry]

I mean the new system has 1/9999th the available usernames, by definition

[dire kraken]

to be fair the handle shouldn't be relevant at all

since a unique ID exists

[queen rapids]

true, they said it was because it was too hard to remember, and sure I can see that, if you have friends with the nickname Rob 1234, Rob 2468 and Rob 5678.

[wary pulsar]

yo

[dire kraken]

then again why would you need to remember it ^^

[queen rapids]

I mean those are 3 different Robs, which one is which?

[dire kraken]

The day to day user would probably differentiate them by their profile picture, servers they share or messages they already send to each other

[queen rapids]

I totally agree, and I didn't ask for it either. I have had the same nickname since the beginning.

[misty swan]

#screenshots-and-art message is this any enemy at range from you or only enemies that themselves attack from range?

[dire kraken]

I mean at the end of the day it was an inconvenience but I doubt that people will still talk about it in 2 years

[queen rapids]

the wording suggests the enemies are ranged, and you can be anything.

[tawdry python]

My guess would be enemies that archers and mages

[dire kraken]

Do think so too

Then again some wording doesn't make sense

[pliant quarry]

My issue was just how out of touch it was tbh, on top of the countless other out of touch things discord as a platform has done and continues to do. I still have yet to meet any of these mythical users who were confused or bothered by the old system, but I have met a lot of people who preferred it and want it back

[dire kraken]

Aka mage tree "Increase all fire damage" and it doesn't increase the fire damage on melee weapons or the fire damage of the explosion arrow etc

[tawdry python]

Could be translation errors🤔

[queen rapids]

yeah like acid is poison, yet i drink acid everyday.

[dire kraken]

I get that. As I said it probably has had a reason why they thought it was necessary that's outside of pure user satisfaction. Because I can certainly tell you that you almost always annoy users by changing stuff around that they got used to

[tawdry python]

Most management at the top of bigger companies are horribly out of touch with customers and the people that work for their companies.

[pliant quarry]

Yeah I mean discord is just out of touch in general to be honest, they have very incompetent management. I don't know if I can actually say a lot of the reasons why because it's stuff I know from people who work there, but I mean... You can kinda tell just as an end user. Their actions don't seem to reflect what the platform actually needs very often, all their new features are broken, and all the broken features never get fixed.

I have had technical issues on servers of over 250k members that I was running, and I wasn't even able to get past an automated tech support wall when I tried to get it resolved. It's a really messy platform behind the scenes.

[tawdry python]

They think something sounds good and makes sense on paper, yet once they try to put it into effect it goes horribly wrong and in some worst case scenarios it sinks companies as fast as the Titanic

[queen rapids]

Companies don't really care about people. their main goal is to earn money right. If the majority doesn't care, they will get away with it.

[ocean anvil]

@pliant quarry ten cent has a chunk or is owners of discord now.

[pliant quarry]

That's definitely not the reason lol

They were mismanaged from the beginning. It was a good idea with california tech bro owners who are in way over their heads.

Also tencent owns everything these days

[ocean anvil]

true]

[wraith umbra]

Some people forget that finance companies just want their money back, and rarely get involved in the operations of businesses they support

[dire kraken]

having to farm 8 different crops for DEX buff food drives me nuts :>

[wraith umbra]

As long as the money is coming back, they don't really care what the business does or how they get there.

[pliant quarry]

Yeah Tencent is honestly not known to be very disruptive in the western companies they own, they mostly just buy stuff and check back every so often to see where their money is going.

There's a lot of conspiracies surrounding them but honestly they just are looking to make money, and they are very good at doing that lol

[queen rapids]

we can assume the conversion costed some money to develop, and to spend money, it is reasonable to think there is a net goal at the end, whether that is lowering maintenance, or more sales of services. What that goal is, I have no idea. But you see what I mean?

[wraith umbra]

It's often a guy or a small group of folks that manage accounts, and those accounts are just "what's your business plan, how are you paying us back? sounds good enough, here's money, good luck. We'll bury you if you don't pay us back"

but to think those people also sit there in the 50-100 accounts they manage and go "what if you didn't give them chairs to sit on?" is the stretch far too many people make

[dire kraken]

i dont know if I can fully agree with that statement. Yeah tencent does leave a lot to the companies but saying it doesn't change a lot of things around is not true either.

Especially since tencents influence has been used in the past to influence protests in the esport scene.

In addition to that almost every game now has 'chinese new year' events and pumps you with skins during it which sometimes gets a bit annoying but that's a question of taste

[misty swan]

so as a healer/archer I am REALLY annoyed that when I have a staff equiped as my ranged weapon, but am holding a bow, when i push Q it aims the bow im holding rather than activating my equiped staff.

[pliant quarry]

I mean I'm not saying they do nothing, mostly that the conspiracies surrounding them are pretty ridiculous lol. Pretty much every dev has probably worked on a "tencent game" at some point given how much they have their hands in this industry, and I think most of us can say we hear more about tencent from players making up crazy things about it than we actually do from tencent themselves.

[dire kraken]

Yea that's true

[pliant quarry]

They're mostly just interested in the bottom line, I've even worked on fully owned tencent games and barely heard from them

[dire kraken]

But tinfoil heads have always been very vocal

[pliant quarry]

tencent studios I mean

[queen rapids]

tencent is more of an investment company than a gameing company, just like McDonalds say they are in the realestate business, not the fast food industry.

[pliant quarry]

Yeah I think the main issue is that many people don't know the difference between an investor and a publisher

Publishers can be very intrusive, and I'm sure there are probably tencent published games that are in that boat, but most of what Tencent does is investing.

[dire kraken]

People often even have a hard time differentiating between publisher and developer

[pliant quarry]

Yeah that too lol