the-tavern

[elder parrot]

It can has content and playing the content is the game and that is it.

[tame seal]

By the way, keep name calling out of the discussions please.

[queen rapids]

OG Skyrim had a level cap of 81. FYI

[night jolt]

We understand your quandry. It is an Early Access game and the cap level exists. It sounds like this is not a best time for you to play Enshrouded - maybe just wait for the level cap raise and additional content drops. Once again, if you are not willing to make an alt, and you are not willing to engage the new content due to lower level items/little to no experience, waiting is the best bet.

[elder parrot]

Its like wanting endgame and endless levels in zelda breath of the wild, and in a demo ea for it at that.

Its not that kind of game

[chilly sparrow]

at this point this mans just a troll

[latent bloom]

Please hold down the name calling...

[jade prairie]

mate

[jovial pasture]

why not go build something cool

[jade prairie]

some people aren't builders

[chilly sparrow]

But I do have a great game I can reccomend you with infinite level cap: Mabinogi

[elder parrot]

Cookie clicker also is theoretically endless growth

[tame seal]

Solitaire.

[latent bloom]

Got Monopoly Go on my phone... can't cap that out...

[chilly sparrow]

that's fire

[signal cobalt]

Stop with the name calling right now! Be respectful to everyone!

[jade prairie]

Infinite level cap is in most modern RPGs. But it's to the point where not even my basic arguments are getting across into the group. It's a wall of poorly argued disagreeing. At least Toast provided an actual argument in favour of it and explained why.

[latent bloom]

Not to change the sugject, but I'm going to do it to keep ppl from getting banned... I rage quit in one of the hollow halls yesterday. What are the chances my tombstone and all my drops are still there? Do you think my garden / farm has sprouted yet?

[ancient epoch]

which rpg have infinite caps?
curious cause none i played recently have that.
and yes, i really wanna know

[night jolt]

Are you making a recommendation, m0sifer? That Enshrouded be open ended with levels and harder and harder content? I do not believe Enshrouded is going to end up being that kind of game but someone can correct me if I am in error.

[signal cobalt]

I have not tested what happens to tombstones if you restart your workd/game. You might have to ask people active in #enshrouded-chat

[queen rapids]

The difference is that in a game like Skyrim, enemies scale with you.

[jade prairie]

I'm suggesting that the current capped level is a mistake and that it should be heightened or the cap removed entirely.

The solution in how that's implemented is hard to solve, which is why Keen haven't done it.

The fact that it's hard to solve doesn't make max cap at 25 a real solution.

[latent bloom]

Thanks... I'm aware.. just trying to keep people out of sight of your ban hammer.. lol 🙂

[signal cobalt]

Seeing how the future map will be 64km^2, i would assume the level cap will increase. I do not want to make promises unless I know this info for sure.

[queen rapids]

I don't think level 25 is a permanent cap.

[jade prairie]

nobody does.

[surreal perch]

huge ❤️

[jade prairie]

I'm suggesting the final cap is infinite upon completion. I know it will increase with region unlocks. But if I'm getting a combat challenge like the dungeons. Not pairing that with some kind of at least minor level cap increase is a mistake, in my eyes.

[night jolt]

I see what you are saying, m0sifer - the level cap is on currently because the game is in development. It is not completed. LifeisReal has just indicated the dize of the map in the future. Everything else that you are concerned with, I suppose we have to wait and see how Keen plays it out.

[jade prairie]

I also, outside of that. Contend that in general, a level cap is bad and cringe. And I want to be able to make a busted outrageous character if I have the time to put it in.

[chilly sparrow]

https://www.google.com/url?sa=i&url=https%3A%2F%2Fgiphy.com%2Fgifs%2Ftheoffice-episode-1-the-office-tv-0NwSQpGY6ipgOSt8LL&psig=AOvVaw0IhybDkWBbh9XkikdlCdUs&ust=1712167293530000&source=images&cd=vfe&opi=89978449&ved=0CBEQjRxqFwoTCNj8x6yOpIUDFQAAAAAdAAAAABAE

[jade prairie]

I'm aware why the level cap is at 25.

I'm saying it should've been increased with the dungeons update. And not doing so is a mistake.

[queen rapids]

I don't understand why you are so focused on that. What will it give you other than being overleveled?

[jade prairie]

Mate why is everyone so keen to remind me the game is both in early access and that the level cap will unlock with region increases.

I know. In my opinion, it should also increase at least in a small way with content like the dungeons, so I have a reason to do them.

[ancient epoch]

the only game i played with infinite level caps did it in a hilariously bad way. i really don't know any single player rpgs with a infinite level cap other than skyrim

[night jolt]

I can tell you, even with the lower level Halls, except the first one, they are very, very, very hairy. Certainly, the loot is under-leveled but the thrill of the hunt and being hunted is actually pretty darn good in there. I would recommend you check it out, despite your misgivings.

[chilly sparrow]

It's wild as hell, I had a GOOD ole time, absolutely loved it

[signal cobalt]

I apologize, when you said the game would be harder with the cap at level 25, that it would mean level 25 for the rest of the map.

[elder parrot]

This argument is just going to loop.
He is envisioning another type of game, which enshrouded is not fit to be; its not the experience it caters to. Theres just endless back and forth out of this topic - either one understand the ea dev flow, or one does not.

[jade prairie]

It's going in a loop because people keep failing to understand the words I say and then giving the same arguments back.

[elder parrot]

They are building a handcrafted, limited scope huge world.

With a story and progression

[pliant quarry]

I haven't been looking at chat for a bit, but honestly this is a totally fair take to have. I think some people can be defensive and take critiques or preferences as attacks on the game, but sounds like you prefer a slightly different style than what we're going with.

I'm not honestly sure if we're going to go in that direction or not, we wanted our progression to be more "open ended" and less reliant on pure stat grinding. But I don't think it's a preference that's unreasonable at all. There's also still plenty we are going to add and change, so who knows things might go further in that direction in the future.

[safe swan]

😩

[surreal perch]

this is not the final form of the game or some anything Realize this. Its a living thing, its going to grow and change.

[jade prairie]

I did the first dungeon with my mate and it was piss easy.

the joy of completing dungeons like that is the reward at the end. Something to show for your effort.

With the equipment being well below my level. xp is the only remaining progression possible.

[elder parrot]

• The cap also is useful for balancing the handcrafted limited scope world step by step - its not an infinite procgen thing.

[chilly sparrow]

try the third one

the first dungeon is piss easy compared

[elder parrot]

They need to tune and balance as they expand the world

[pliant quarry]

Yeah if you're max level the first dungeon isn't really where you should be tbh, it's meant to be a bit more "mid-game" if you wanna call it that.

[night jolt]

This is the reason why I said "except the first one" because yea, first one was easy. I would really encourage you and your mate to continue on with the Halls. They get more difficult. The level of loot may not change, even when the game goes live - will you still avoid them? Check the rest out and see how it goes. Just for the thrill!

[chilly sparrow]

I also got cool loot in the final HH dungeon! I actively use

[jade prairie]

Except I'd rather save them for when there's a level cap increase so I can actually get XP for doing them

[chilly sparrow]

and god the adventure is just insane

[pliant quarry]

And yeah the later dungeons have some exclusive loot that can only be obtained in the dungeon itself, some of it is quite good. Or at least it's supposed to be, not entirely sure how the meta has shaken out lol

[ancient epoch]

i guess any level 5 - 10 dungeon in any game will be piss easy with 15 - 20 levels advantage

[terse hollow]

personally would love optional level scaling

[elder parrot]

• Id just argue the step by step level cap lets them tune the balance as game opens up.
  Infinite levels would make that adjustment hard,

[signal cobalt]

Its insane that people would stay in the beginning areas to level up to max level. It happens in many RPGs and it makes news.

[pliant quarry]

And yeah the level cap exists to avoid the issue of new content either having to be extremely power crept, or completely trivial for high level players. Hence why pretty much every RPG out there tends to have level caps of its own, or even sometimes level scaling to artificially make the content at least somewhat challenging

[chilly sparrow]

imo the game has such an amazing refinement of a starting point, that we all love to some degree, hence why were here 🙂 So focusing on the fun we CAN have seems like a great time for the community! & we can be grateful for what is provided

[night jolt]

Okay, if you want to wait until level cap is raised, then it sounds like you have made your decision. Toast has indicated some tidbits of information earlier in the convo as well.

[jade prairie]

My primary issue with Enshrouded right now is not increasing the level cap with this update. That's it, really.

I have an issue with having a level cap in any finished RPG. Because I enjoy making an overleveled sob. And I think stomping enemies is a fun reward for putting the work in.

Those two separate issues have been boiled together in a big mess rn and I wanna stipulate them as different.

[gentle forum]

Ok

[wraith umbra]

True, we should have level 10,000 and nothing to do with all the extra points

[latent bloom]

@pliant quarry ... please indulge me.... What are the chances of a complete wipe before going live?

[gentle forum]

!wipe

[jade prairie]

yes

[ancient epoch]

level scaling is just artificial difficulty imo.
it's either undertuned so it's still easy but with different numbers on screen
or hard as nails so that it feels like you never made any real progress imo.

i have yet to play a game where enemies level with you where this isn't the case

[wraith umbra]

Well there are mods/CEs out there you can use to boost your level cap, go wild my friend!

[chilly sparrow]

Just like Skyrim so, indulge yourself

[night jolt]

Ah, yeah, forgot about that. That is true.

[pliant quarry]

Most of our progression honestly comes from items more than levels, which do scale a fair bit in this update. We didn't raise the level cap because the content in the game isn't really appropriate for that yet. Not really much to it tbh, it wasn't a mistake or something, we intentionally chose not to raise it yet because it didn't seem appropriate for what's in the game.

[jade prairie]

Unironically I think in a world with infinite scaling once the game is done, the players should be able to put the infinite extra points into the attributes. Either when the final boss/quest is complete, or when the skill tree is otherwise completely filled in.

[wraith umbra]

Sure, but this game doesn't have scaling at all, so 🤷‍♂️

[jade prairie]

scaling enemies? that's not a problem that's a feature in my book

[wraith umbra]

No, the game DOESN'T have scaling

[chilly sparrow]

but just think about how nail bitingly cool it's going to be once they DO increase the cap and have content to do go do for it!??!?! oh man. That's why you love a game and look forward to the releases.

[terse hollow]

guessing the new biomes r gonna be higher level?

[pliant quarry]

Very unlikely, saves are hosted locally on your PC and I don't really see any practical reason we would want to intentionally go out of our way to delete them. That seems unnecessary to me.

There's definitely a decent chance that new content might get added that you might want to choose to restart/wipe in order to enjoy, but I don't really think we'd forcibly delete them or anything. If for whatever reason we were gonna release an update that broke saves we'd warn players well in advance though.

[signal cobalt]

I'd take a break from this, personally. Do something else, clear my thoughts. I just want to wish everyone a good day. I will still be around, but i just want to clear my mind from this.

[jade prairie]

mistake =/= on accident.

I just personally disagree with the decision. because now I'm gonna have to just wait until the level cap increase.

[latent bloom]

Thank you for that answer.... I appreciate the level of clarity.

[wraith umbra]

Well when those mountains drop, I'm sure you'll enjoy getting the next 5 or so levels

[night jolt]

Now that mobs know how to jump properly, the current high level content (level 30 mobs) makes things a bit more interesting. I feel a slam dunk to my face incoming at some point. Or a volleyball spike to my head.

[jade prairie]

bruh if it's 5 levels for the whole new region I might cry

[wraith umbra]

Maybe your tears will help them get water in the game faster

[ancient epoch]

and i hope it stays like that cause i never saw scaling enemies being great before

[jade prairie]

coding water is really hard man

[wraith umbra]

Well your tears can help 🙂

[ancient epoch]

lol tears fill the seas

[chilly sparrow]

Toast is a good dude with an impressive amount of patience you just gotta respect tbh

[pliant quarry]

Fair enough, I guess what I am saying is that you seem to want a different game than what we're making in that regard. I'd honestly go so far as to say the method of progression we're using is far more standard for RPGs than an infinite level scaling system, which I very rarely see.

[elder parrot]

• as said, yes.

[jade prairie]

Guess I just play different RPGs honestly because most the ones I stumble into have infinite scaling

[pliant quarry]

My title used to be "anti-cheat community manager" for a game with a big cheating problem, this is nothing tbh lol

[night jolt]

That is the feel/drift I was getting from Enshrouded. That type of game feature/mechanic that m0sifer is hoping for did not seem like something Enshrouded is about.

[signal cobalt]

Everyone, can we stop this topic? Take a breather at least and do something else.

[elder parrot]

Breath of the wild and tears of the kingdom, neither have infinite scaling. They both have a huge handcrafted world.

Looploop

[chilly sparrow]

!slow

[wraith umbra]

Zelda games are not RPGs

[ancient epoch]

that doesn't sound... fun in any way

[chilly sparrow]

It really doesn't.

[night jolt]

Certainly. I am really digging these rounded doors and windows. ^.^

[elder parrot]

Enshrouded is much like breath of the wild and conan exiles, world, combat and explorstion of pois.

[pliant quarry]

There are older RPGs that have infinite scaling for sure yeah, though the industry has moved away from that in part because of how many issues it caused for balance. I used to play tibia and the power creep in that game was pretty hilarious for that reason

[jade prairie]

i mean.

the base disagreement in the specific update is what constitutes a level cap increase. not whether or not it should be increased.

[elder parrot]

Enshrouded isnt a pure rpg, its an action 'rpg'

[pliant quarry]

And yeah our game is more in the realm of ARPGs

[elder parrot]

Yeah

[wraith umbra]

I only play 7th Saga

[chilly sparrow]

I play games

[wraith umbra]

modded uncapped

[safe swan]

Enshrouded is love and bliss! Totally hooked to it.

[chilly sparrow]

& I Love enshrouded

[pliant quarry]

Yeah we do want to add more moddabiliy, an "uncapped" mode could be pretty fun

[ancient epoch]

only infinite scaling game i played was skyrim and the infinite scaling gets hilarious once you realise that infinite means level 80 and you have to forget how your weapons work multiple times to reach higher levels 🤣

[chilly sparrow]

Difference between wanting more, and appreciating what's given

[dry halo]

BG3 until this. Before BG3 I have a few 1000 hours in New World

[jade prairie]

I did suggest earlier to put it as a setting in dedicated servers.

[chilly sparrow]

I went through this exact same thing hahahahahhaah

[pliant quarry]

I could definitely see us doing something like that at some point, though I don't really have an ETA for when we'll expand our admin tools more

[wraith umbra]

It's also just kinda meaningless, since levels don't give you anything outside of skill points. If levels gave more than skillpoints, I could see some uncapped system being worthwhile.

[pliant quarry]

Part of me wonders if you could brute force it with cheat engine or something lol

[wraith umbra]

I do think levels should give more than skillpoints fwiw

[jade prairie]

Hey. Fallout 4 has infinite level cap. Fallout NV doesn't.

say what you will about Fo4 but the player numbers are higher and stays higher

[chilly sparrow]

Ask your old community you managed Toast😂 😂

[wraith umbra]

Haven't people already forced up the level cap with CEs?

[ancient epoch]

someone apparently did

[night jolt]

Right, but you then indicated that you enjoy uncapped games and scaling and so on. That is what I was referring to. Nothing wrong with you enjoying that feature in games. ^.^

[jade prairie]

Well I'm not saying the level should be uncapped in enshrouded in it's unfinished state either. Even though it would be unbelievably based.

[wraith umbra]

I just don't get what it does for you

[jade prairie]

I enjoy stomping enemies.

[chilly sparrow]

in other news I think dual wield would be cool

[wraith umbra]

It doesn't make you more powerful though

[ancient epoch]

different preferences

[jade prairie]

I mean. It does.

Leveling up gives skill points that you use on unlocking skills.

[ancient epoch]

big number, big fun, i guess

[wraith umbra]

But those skills don't boost your main role

Like more skill points has you branching into other roles

[jade prairie]

Yeah

[chilly sparrow]

the cycle continues

[elder parrot]

Loop

[wraith umbra]

you aren't going to get more damage

[elder parrot]

Weve already been here

[night jolt]

god-like mode.

[jade prairie]

He's asking the questions it's his fault for not reading it the first time 😆

[wraith umbra]

I wasn't here the first time

[subtle prawn]

Don't think we could get more damage out of any role as of now with more skill points

[ancient epoch]

that's gear based, right? or does the flame level contribute as well. i forgot 😅

[jade prairie]

i think flame level does a bit.

[wraith umbra]

flame level does give you stats, so yes it will boost damage

[odd bay]

Lets all put it this way, 25 levels now, less than a third of the map uncovered. More levels means a bigger skill tree and that needs work, testing, creativity, etc. I for one want some more meaningful nodes that are more or less build defining 🙂

[wraith umbra]

Oh for sure the skill tree expands and more stuff will be there to pick from

but as it stands, more is really just "same, but different", not more stomping

[odd bay]

I'm expecting that to be a very late game thing though, not overpowered just flashy and cool, ricochet with bows for example, a pet sword as a melee character etc

[wraith umbra]

you should just set up a CE that modifies armor and weapon bonuses

[jade prairie]

Ooo if they add way more skills to the skilltree that'd be cool, I didn't even necessarily take that as a given. It's not in the roadmap tho

[wraith umbra]

The roadmap is just features they want to add and big ticket items coming soon, stuff they were gonna do anyway doesn't always land there.

[odd bay]

necromancer could be really fleshed out with the new skelly enemies!

[night jolt]

I want to bend my arrows. If they don't bend.. Well, I will just deal with it. 😛

[jade prairie]

i told him to leave my neck alone but he won't stop.

[jade prairie]

goofy WANTED physics on arrows.

[ocean anvil]

physics is a cpu eater

[wraith umbra]

Enshrouded 8.2.4 - All arrows now work like wands

[odd bay]

maybe a 20% chance to home in would be useful

[jade prairie]

"physics" is an overstatement it'd just be a point to point curve with collision detection.

[surreal perch]

finding arrows would be an okay addition lol

[jade prairie]

in fact the logic to make arrows bend and follow targets is already in the game it's how the wands work like @wraith umbra mentioned.

[night jolt]

That would be pretty darn interesting.

[odd bay]

its probably not what they're going for when they wanted a skill shot class though

[ocean anvil]

all in subject of what is done in terms of physics faked or real, most games fake for sake of cpu

[jovial pasture]

indeed somtimes they wana curv away from the ting im pointing at

[jade prairie]

Have you seen WANTED?

[ocean anvil]

did say most games not all

[jade prairie]

It's a movie where James McAvoy flicks his gun really hard and the bullets Bend around corners

[ocean anvil]

seen that one

[jade prairie]

That's what I was referencing when I said Wanted physics lmao

[ocean anvil]

lol

[odd bay]

Give me a crossbow with a 500kg bomb on the end of it and make it destroy the environment and I'll spend all my skill points on it just to try and commit seppuku on my PC

[jade prairie]

enshrouded equivalent of stacking a 500x500 block of TNT in minecraft

[odd bay]

Flash cooked my whole room just thinking about it

[jade prairie]

"methane check"

[odd bay]

I do want to say though, I love these devs and what they're trying to achieve with this game. I haven't had a positive outlook on devs in a long time thanks to "QUADRUPLE A STUDIOS"

[jovial pasture]

ah yes quaduple a lol

[chilly sparrow]

I know dual wield is on the suggestion board, are there any plans for that by chance? Just curious

Is there like a specific number that has to be hit with upvotes or anything?

[queen rapids]

geez HH is so crazy dark i cant see a thing in there

[odd bay]

Currently an open suggestion, rather than planned

[jade prairie]

I hope the devs don't forget the crucial thing to make their RPG Triple-a

Make a sequel that's live service garbage and dedicates 100% of development time to it rather than another sequel that's actually in the spirit of the original.

[odd bay]

And dont forget to have more paid items than earnable items.

[pliant quarry]

We'll make it AAAA like Ubisoft did

Retroactively charge people 70 dollars who already own the game, add a season pass AND a battle pass, both at the same time, and we'll do a very poor job at explaining what each one does

Also a rotating cosmetic shop while we're at it why not

[night jolt]

And please make sure there is a cool mount behind a pay wall. ^.^

[pliant quarry]

We'll add horses just so we can sell their armor as DLC, as a kind of homage to the classics

[night jolt]

Perfect. I am sold! /throws money

[formal furnace]

yes

[ancient epoch]

finally a good concept 🤣🤣

[formal furnace]

sell the armor but don't nadd the horse yet

[pliant quarry]

oh yeah horse armor preorders, that's a good idea

You'll get a preorder bonus that you can never earn again that gives it a small barely noticable gold trim

[night jolt]

Gold trim that is so fine and small, it can be compared to the fine print of a contract - the kind you need to have a magnifying glass for.

[wraith umbra]

I like the idea of horse armor, but never adding horses

[formal furnace]

yep its just something that sits in the inventory

[night jolt]

Sits in your inventory and cannot be placed into storage.

[wraith umbra]

Takes up 18 inventory slots

[pliant quarry]

We'll sell the armor as a preorder, and then say nothing for like... Over a year. And eventually apologize because the technology of adding horses wasn't there yet, and offer refunds in the form of in-game currency worth half the original purchases value (we have to account for FlameBux inflation, obviously)

[wraith umbra]

cannot be deleted because you paid extra for it and they don't want to get sued

[night jolt]

haha Oh man.

[pliant quarry]

Idk why nobody hires me as a monetization designer I'm a genius

[slim sentinel]

GF and i trz the last hall... its heavy

[formal furnace]

iot would be funny if the horses you eventually add are so scuffed they are unusable and the armor looks off

[lost brook]

you're missing out on a huge opportunity with 2.99 for 100 wacks of the pick axe

[wraith umbra]

"2024 was a bad year for horse technology in games. Similar to the burning of the Library in Alexandria, amounts of horse code were lost in a hack that can never be recovered and will need to be build from scratch. The team is currently working on adding 2d pixel sprites of horses as we speak, but full 3d models with proper animations will take some time. For now, please enjoy looking at your Horse Armor on our new Saddle Rack DLC for $7.99."

[queen rapids]

Ah yes the infamous horse armor. Still have my horse armor DVD still.

[formal furnace]

make it 4.99

[lost brook]

that would be for the bundle

[wraith umbra]

2.99 for 100, 4.99 for 200

[lost brook]

no

4.99 for 250

[queen rapids]

Ofc, im no sucker.

[wraith umbra]

Wow, so generous

[slim sentinel]

the only thing i have to mention about the new update is:
instead of adding mechnaics to make fights heavyer more mobs... to handle

not very creative

[wraith umbra]

?

[formal furnace]

so the thing goes like this:

-you add some ads that pop up from time to time, you need premium (19.99$ a month to remove them)
-crafting something requires 24h with the ability to pay 6.99 to speed it up, plus a chance for it to break and lose the materials, to prevent that you need to buy a packof items that prevent it 4.99
-you have a limit of structures to put on your base, you need premium to increase the limit and premium plus (49.99 a month) fo unlimited structures
-the survivor capsules are lootboxes and youll probably get the same survivor everytime, don't worry you can actually scrap them for runes, but runes are only used to get skins that are just a color change for a ludicrous amount of them (respeccing the perks is now something you do with money 7.99)
-in order to repair a tool you either spend paid currency or you watch 5 ads

[night jolt]

Is there a possibility of clarifying what you were wanting to convey?

[queen rapids]

Why make it so complicated. Just make some skimpy female armor and it rank in the gold.

[jade prairie]

unironically horses tho

traveling across large flat terrains especially the desert one

would be peak with horses.

[wraith umbra]

I'm just waiting for product placement. Can't wait for the exclusive Kinder deal

[queen rapids]

Monster! Perfect for monster huntin'!

[tame seal]

Horses are 2027 DLC

[wraith umbra]

The Elixir was really just energy drinks for sure.

Every little town has a Starbucks in it now

[quiet geyser]

Nah make everything only purchasable using the exclusive cryptocurrency called Shroudbux which is the equivalent of 1 Shroudbux equalling 4.5 US dollars

And if you own an NFT of any of the craftspeople, you can get a discount on crafting! God this is like Amiibo but even worse

[slim sentinel]

instead of only more mobs or adds on bosses, the need of playing mechanics instead of kiting 30mobs while defeating a boss

[wraith umbra]

Anything you would like to see them add?

[inner rapids]

yo someone answer this #enshrouded-chat message

[tame seal]

Ask nicely.

[slim sentinel]

shield mechanics, the usage of the environment for blocking and dodging room filling attacks, shield phases, interrrupts, maybe somthing like caging and get out, something creative 🙂

[inner rapids]

wym lad ask nicely its a question lik

pretty simple one if that

[slim sentinel]

i played TERA WOW TESO there are so many ways to be creative in fights, so that we put more mobs do make it harder isnt that creative ^^

[tame seal]

Okay, not touching this one with a 2 by 4 🤣

[tame seal]

Simple answer, no.

[inner rapids]

how is it not fixed yet

[tame seal]

Because it's not broken in the first place.

[inner rapids]

the missions r player based

if someone in that world does that mission then its done

ts good if u play solo

[tame seal]

And that is how it is designed.

[inner rapids]

yes but single player progression will surely be better

[tame seal]

They have not added the feature to allow players to repeat the quests yet.

[inner rapids]

do u think it will be better or not

[tame seal]

Does it matter what i think?

[cursive jackal]

Are there a lot of quests?

[tame seal]

70+ cant remember the exact number.

[pliant quarry]

We actually had a fairly long news post about this so I'll just link you that :) #news message

[dusky stone]

88 quests

[dry halo]

Back to the Future

[inner rapids]

alright mate

[inner rapids]

aye cheers for that mate

[cursive jackal]

Absolutely enjoying the game. I joined late, but amazing work! 🙂

[rugged spire]

is there a way to cap fps in this game? im using Lossless scaling and capping the fps from nvidia control panel isnt capping the fps

[copper apex]

Reshade also has a fps cap addon

[rugged spire]

Reshade?

[copper apex]

#screenshots-and-art message

[quiet geyser]

I didn't even know Reshade worked on this game but it is more of an overlay shader

Reshade is pretty good though. Mostly use it in my Skyrim VR playthrough because ENB is notoriously laggy

[copper apex]

dunno how or how good it works, just sayin, this exist 🙂

[small drum]

I’ve not had much time with the update but are people doing ok with the reveleood hollow hall? I started to have a hard time with the 4th checkpoint.

[quiet geyser]

The ambient occlusion might be weird because like I said, the shader goes on top so you'll see the shadows in water or fog so shadows in shroud areas might stick out like a sore thumb

[astral hull]

It’s pretty easy as a level 25 but it’s definitely harder if your going in as a level 10-15

[quiet geyser]

I mean the hollow dungeons were designed to scale with the biome they're in so going in earlier dungeons at max level would of course be easy

[carmine scroll]

I love your avatar.

[quiet geyser]

Who's?

[carmine scroll]

yours

[quiet geyser]

Thanks it was my highschool art project that people liked too much of lol

[astral hull]

Yep. I wasn’t sure what level they are so hard to gauge what they’re having difficulty on.

[carmine scroll]

lol its awesome.

[small drum]

Yeah my character is level 25. So the mobs are fine, it’s just that one checkpoint I had a hard time with.

[astral hull]

I don’t recall the 4th check point on the Revelwood halls but I do know I breeze through that one pretty quickly

I only really struggle with the kindlewastes hall

[white drift]

what is max level? 25 right?

[dusky stone]

Yes 25

[astral hull]

Yes

[white drift]

weird

[small drum]

Siding down and avoiding the holes..

[white drift]

someone was level 30

[quiet geyser]

People starting out and at the recommended level: "hey is the first hollow dungeon hard?"

Try hards going through with minmaxxed endgame characters: "lol no"

[dusky stone]

Mobs can go to 30 (i think)

[white drift]

nope, was a person

and yes mobs go to 30

[astral hull]

Oh right! Yes it’s tricky. I try to stick left. Seems to only be one hole you gotta avoid on the left side.

I think he pattern is right then left then a jump

[quiet geyser]

The slides weren't hard for me but then I spent a lot of my childhood in the Mario 64 slider levels so

[carmine scroll]

i only breezed through it cause i was max level. ;;>_>

[astral hull]

I progressed through each with the appropriate level and then I farmed them on my single player at max level

[wraith umbra]

cheat engines exist

[white drift]

ik

[small drum]

I did learn that the check point in which you had 2 sides to unlock.. do right first, press that button, then glide over to left and press that button. Easier than dealing with fire orbs etc

[quiet geyser]

My friend and I went in at level 9-10 and got our butts kicked at the last room but we prevailed. I didn't have much problem because I had water aura and hauls butt when it gets too dicey but my tank friend powered through and kept dying lol

[carmine scroll]

tank builds really dont feel very tanky.

[astral hull]

It’s really about managing the pulls and trying to cc when you can. I run with a group of five and we had a lot of deaths at first but once you get organized it does get easier.

Can’t imagine the madness in there with 16 players tho

[wraith umbra]

Tank builds are really just meant to be able to take a few hits, but mostly just hold a shield while others do damage

[astral hull]

We did two tanks, a healer, archer and a caster

[wraith umbra]

if they fix nemesis for HH, tanks can go back to tanking

but they still aren't supposed to just take hits

[pastel oyster]

Good Morning! 😄

[quiet geyser]

I can't have an opinion about not getting hit because I'm a plebian who uses infinite health cheats lol

[chilly sparrow]

I’m a very lucky duck who started playing right about when HH dropped

[quiet geyser]

Kinda sad seeing all these big gaming channels like IGN and Gamerant make all these videos on Enshrouded, then Dragon's Dogma came out and everyone dropped this game like "I don't want to play with you anymore 🤠"

[astral hull]

Eh imma wait on dragons dogma

[quiet geyser]

But then the release also wasn't better because it came out at the same time as "the funny Pokemon slave game with guns"

[pastel oyster]

I play a kind of tank/warrior hybrid. I can take a few hits, but I agree that the defense could be upped a little bit, either by armor or more skills... it does seem a tad bit anemic.

[chilly sparrow]

Literally how my group of friends behaved. Everyone saw enshrouded and said that seems cool & dragons dogma they’re like oh this is the best thing ever

[astral hull]

Or by shields too. Shields seem very boring right now

[pastel oyster]

not "unplayable" but we get hit fairly hard if we don't raise our shields up in time 😄

[quiet geyser]

Never played DD so IDK how good it is. I'm not a fan of the DLC hell storm it has tho

[wraith umbra]

These companies would go bankrupt if they just covered one game and not the most current thing.

[terse schooner]

you are all describing every big new game release in history.

[astral hull]

I just have too many games to play to add another to my plate right now. Enshrouded also has most of my attention.

[quiet geyser]

Enshrouded got all of my attention lol it hit my autistic obsessions like the Elixir hit Embervale

[astral hull]

I just want animals and then my enshrouded life could be complete

So excited to make a farm

[chilly sparrow]

I’ll transfer to a beast master SO fast.

[quiet geyser]

Pets would be cool. Let Balthazar have Ignus and the Collector have a skelly hound

[astral hull]

Pets and farm animals will be here eventually if things go as planned

[terse schooner]

did fighting get any good in this game after updates or is it still pretty boring? wanted to like this game alot but just didnt catch on.

still here trying to justify trying again lol

[chilly sparrow]

Fighting? The combat’s sick wdym

[astral hull]

Combat has not had any updates or patches really.

[quiet geyser]

Though I also can't wait to have musical instruments:
Every craftsperson be like: "someone I love is dead."
Me: "damn that sucks. Anyway here's Wonderwall 🎸🎶"

[tame seal]

THe combat is fine, in terms of its enjoyability, that's individual.

[vagrant magnet]

Combat is simple, with game like these I don't think combat need to be way too complicated

that being said, please add guns xDDD

[maiden shadow]

Hello all Enshrouders (or "Enshroudeders").
I'm new here ....

[terse schooner]

thats fair, to each their own! thank you for letting me know!

[astral hull]

Guns could potentially work. We do have explosive powder

Although I’d prefer no guns and give us crossbows

[quiet geyser]

I think the fanbase name are called "Flameborns"

[vagrant magnet]

I'm thinking of slow yet high power medieval fantasy guns

[chilly sparrow]

Musket OP

[tame seal]

Guns would feel wrong imo.

[chilly sparrow]

Guns would be weird as hell imo

[vagrant magnet]

enemies has big crossbow weapon so I don't think they are too wrong xD

[astral hull]

I don’t think so. We have explosive grenades and we can make black powder

[chilly sparrow]

Palworld only put them in the game to “ apply to an American audience” I shit you not

[quiet geyser]

Yes add guns to the game but only make them obtainable by forcing all the cute woodland creatures to make them in an assembly line that's what all the gamers want these days apparently

[tame seal]

Bow/crossbows are different to guns 😄

[vagrant magnet]

by saying "Gun" doesn't always mean Amurica pew pew home dfender yeehaw get out of my yard the gun.

It can be fantasy type of guns

[chilly sparrow]

I will say no dual wield did have me very very surprised, but hey I’m not gonna complain

[vagrant magnet]

also crossbow is a gun, just saying

[astral hull]

We smelt iron and craft black powder. I feel like they would fit in nicely with the right flavoring

[quiet geyser]

The only fantasy gun I know are those dwarven Harquebuses that Trainwiz added in his Skyrim mod

[tame seal]

Give a sawblade launcher?

[vagrant magnet]

dual wielding is one of the feature lot of ppl ask for so maybe one day

[quiet geyser]

"I will defeat the shroud by the power of friendship and this gun I found"

[vagrant magnet]

"I will defeat the Shroud with friendship... and lot of lead!"

[quiet geyser]

Anyway gotta clock in to work now so see ya in maybe 6 hours byeeee

[chilly sparrow]

Hopefully! I was just shook it wasn’t in the game, I mean all games like it and every other arpg in its class has it or a variant of it, so it surprised me like hell

[vagrant magnet]

yeah I love dualing axes like some bloody Barbarian

[chilly sparrow]

I live by the best defense is a good offense😉

[vagrant magnet]

Always, I mean.. who need shield to block attacks when you can attack before they could attack you?

[maiden shadow]

I'm pretty sure you're more a tanker than other ? No 😉

[small drum]

I still struggle with targeting and selecting a new target.. to target. Yet for a boss fight when there are no adds it’s fine.

[astral hull]

I don’t even use the targeting for this reason. It’s too chaotic and I don’t feel in control.

[small drum]

It seems to pull the furthest one in the pack.

[vagrant magnet]

yes yes ;3

[pastel oyster]

I never use targeting in games. They usually put you more at risk than anything.

[wraith umbra]

Honestly shields are useless anyway, you can just block with your 2h and call it good

[vagrant magnet]

or just tell enemies NO, they would kindly drop weapon and agree like fine gentleman

[wraith umbra]

Yeah, when is rizz spec making it into the game?

[vagrant magnet]

xD

[wraith umbra]

new purple yapper nodes

[small drum]

“Fine sir/madam I have engaged you to battle, will the others please stand aside in the meanwhile? Thank you for your graciousness in civility.”

[maiden shadow]

I like the "magic" shield (to block) but also to get some light during night missions 😉

[vagrant magnet]

The bandit: "Ah, our apology, thy sire. Please enjoy your wonderful duel, it is beautiful weather today for such a lovely little competition. May we also offer you some great Chamomile Tea as well?"

they just start wearing torn gentleman outfits and tall hats

[quasi saffron]

I'd only allow guns if we get those FBI-shields from the Shroud guys.

[small drum]

In revelwood hollow halls I hadn’t opened a filigree metal door and the skeletons mobbed it on the other side of me. Hopefully they don’t learn to open it. I did freak at one point when they were figuring out how to get to this high point I was at.

[vagrant magnet]

I would love to have tower shields as well, why don't we have those at least for tank build

[vagrant magnet]

I remember I accidentally fell into a mini boss room, the boss somehow saw me but stay there and wait until my friend jump in the room then they start fighting, how kind

[quasi saffron]

I... Uh... Well... Yes?

Damn. That makes actually sense.

[small drum]

The matron boss gets stuck in holes if you use bombs and she runs and falls in. I pray they never fix that.

[radiant dragon]

Give her the ability to jump

[astral hull]

Physics say she can’t jump

[vagrant magnet]

after she jumps, she get a new stat call "No legs"

Legless

[quasi saffron]

If that woman starts jumping...
We all cannot imagine what will happen next to Embervale

[radiant dragon]

Bigger shockwave than my mom sitting down

[ocean thorn]

Hi, im having trouble with unlocking the first shrine. The game bugged and it wont recognize I’ve reach the top of the shrine and wont let me kindle it. (I’m doing the blacksmith quest) Is there a solution or do i have to create a new character?

[small drum]

Imo they need to nerf those poison scavengers. I..hate..them.. yet I get overly gleeful when I can kill them from above.

[radiant dragon]

1. You don't have to do that for the blacksmith, just go into the building and interact with the weird container
2. Do you have a spark? You actually kinda do the opposite when you interact with the flame shrines (it gets smaller and you get a spark)

[small drum]

Just summon him back at your home base.

[ocean thorn]

Do i need a spark to kindle the tower?

[radiant dragon]

Wait the tower?

[ocean thorn]

Yes the fast travel

[radiant dragon]

That should automatically kindle itself
And you should be able to interact with it

[ocean thorn]

Thats the thing it wont let me

[radiant dragon]

Odd

[ocean thorn]

Since is part of the quest

The game does not recognize i’ve reach the top

When i reach the top it kindle itself but wont let me interact with it

So i never unlock the fast travel location and the Blacksmith quest never ends

[pastel oyster]

For some reason, since the last update, people have been having issues with this specific quest, and doing it again on their character in another world. Right now the only fix we have for the issue is to create a new character and complete that quest. Once that is done, the main character should be able to access the flame at the top of the tower and use the teleportation.

Because this is a new issue that has only started happening since the latest patch, we are suggesting that you report this issue via the in-game escape menu (or by pressing F1) and clicking on the "report a bug issue." Please be as detailed as you can about what is happening, and hopefully the devs can resolve this once they are able to determine the problem.

[ocean thorn]

Ty!

I will 😄

[pastel oyster]

Not a problem 🙂

[carmine scroll]

😮

[keen halo]

Silly question but i've found answers on this one nowhere.. on each craftable item in my charcoal kiln for instance. they all have little quest markers.. is something supposed to unlock when i make charcoal, wood acid, or tar? I see no quest requiring these? tia.

[pastel oyster]

Some items will unlock if you create (and pick up) the items, but I am not 100% sure this is what is meant by the quest markers.

but if you have already picked up the items somewhere else, it will have already unlocked.

[keen halo]

oh ok the markers just don't go away as of yet?

Thanks for your time!

[pastel oyster]

have you picked up the items into your inventory?

[keen halo]

ya.. tar i've never made,, nothing unlocked but,,, hmm.

[pastel oyster]

the quest markers should go away once you have made the items.

But I don't recall whether they even had quest markers on mine. 🤣 (it's been a while.)

[keen halo]

perhaps after i restart it

[gentle forum]

Got Enshrouded running on my Playstation 1. Looks amazing, so excited to play it on console.

https://i.imgur.com/cPp07kt.jpeg

[rich egret]

so my friend has been playing in my world since we had started Enshrouded... last night all of a sudden, they werent able to see what was in some of our chests, like the storage was empty.. though to me it wasnt. when he's in the tab menu, it says he has 0 out of 8 alters when it should show 8/8 ... his level is still max, but he suddenly has quests from the very beginning.. such as building his first alter.... he tried to verify files and that hasnt worked.. any ideas why its suddenly done this and how to fix it?

[vagrant magnet]

wow minecraft look better than I remember

[slim sentinel]

ok we did the last hall
and yes there was an needed enemy with a token under the floor while we standing in the shroud behind an barrier that blocked our way...
But we get around with Jumpnrun and creativity

my tip for all: everytime have a pickaxe on your side its helpful....

the last hall was difficult and we need 4h for that to clear and lost our loot because of the terrain and mechanics thats sad but ok we cleared it.
in general LVL design is difficult i know but i would terrainmanipulate some sections in other ways so you dont get stuck this often like us in fly sections

in generall i loved the content, cleared all 4 halls, it was sketchy and we need alot of time whats a good point.

i wished they did some things more like a mechanic than only put more mobs in it but ok

[tame seal]

With the flying sections, which seems to be the section most people have problems with, one solution to help the affair a lot don't think of, is use a slower glider, most use max speed which is hectic, but a slower speed will make it easier to get through.

[woven blade]

Does anybody know if the Earth Aura works for yourself if your playing solo

[slim sentinel]

the flying section was only the problem that i falled between the terraincollider and have to dig me free, thats why i advise to have a pick on your side ^^, i tryed several times the best way, and rusched my gf's char wihtout problem in 1 rush through with the ghost glider ^^

my gf isnt that good in Jumpnrun or gliding, she is more an gatherer

[gentle forum]

I did the flying section in one try 🥰

[tame seal]

Fair! I'd personally carry an axe and pickaxe literally everwhere 😄 When the worlds destructable, there's really no reason not to. As for the flying, yea i've not used anything other than the ghost glider and made it several times.

[slim sentinel]

i have two picks and axxes on my side... you know why XD

[tame seal]

Yup!

[latent bloom]

I have to leave for a 2 hour appointment and I'm halfway through a hollowed hall... is it safe just to "AFK" and everything will wait for me, or will the game reset if I'm away too long? (yes, I'm in a safe spot with no enemies around.)

[tame seal]

Things do not respawn in the vicinity of the player unless they log out, but for example things WILL respawn earlier in the dungeon if you're not in range.

[copper apex]

as long your machine doesnt have any standby mode aka energy setting, you should be fine

[latent bloom]

alrighty then.. back to the hall in 2 hours.. thanks for the input.

[carmine scroll]

Snake? Snake! Snaaaaaaake!

[verbal spruce]

flew into a tree, fell died.... grave is now at the top of the tree..... wtf lol

[weary skiff]

If a new player joins my server that I have already done all the quests for, will he have no quests?

[tame seal]

If there's anything valuable in the grave... put down a flame, build some steps, hey prestow 😄

[tame seal]

Correct, they will have next to no quests if you have completed them already.

[weary skiff]

Thanks for the response. Are they going to make quests dedicated to players individually in the future?

[tame seal]

They do intented to introduce some sort of replayability for the quests, yes. How that will exactly pan out? no idea yet.

[fringe snow]

Is there a section on this discord for trading items? I am looking for a legacy shroud weaver (lvl 35)

[lament root]

Hello. May I ask? If I need some building blocks, items, components, but they are still not unlocked on my server, can I craft or just take a sample on another server (which already has these blocks, items and components unlocked) and thus unlock the things I need, for my own server?

[pastel oyster]

For some of them, yes. I believe there are some that have to be gained through quests though, and they may not unlock.

[lament root]

Thank you.

[tame seal]

Yea, you can take everything from another severs, but you still wont unlock all items on a new server. At the same time, make sure to put any items you take into a box and then back into your inventory so that it registers you 'collecting' that item on your server.

[lament root]

Oh. I have no idea about this mechanics. Thanks!

[weary skiff]

Does your level transfer to another server along with items such as armor and weapons?

[lament root]

Looks like yes.

[woeful light]

that the new impressionist graphics mode? 🎨 👌

[tough pagoda]

damn this Revelwood Hollow Halls boss

[tame seal]

You character is completely seperate from the server, so any items/gear you have equipped as well as all skills etc, will move where the character moves.

[native parrot]

You character is

Hehehe

[gentle forum]

I love it

[prisma surge]

What is stored on the server? Just your camp?

[tame seal]

The game world.

[prisma surge]

So everything specific to my game, character, camp etc is not kept on server?

[woeful light]

no

[native parrot]

Nope, saved to your seed like terraria

[woeful light]

character != world

[tame seal]

No, your character and everything attached, is it's own file. Everything else, is your world file.

[prisma surge]

Interesting. My seed lol.

What if you have a camp overlapping someone elses camp and you join the same server?

[native parrot]

Character can be used on different worlds.
Albeit with some herp derp if quests are in different stages

[woeful light]

you are still associating world data with a character

[gloomy schooner]

I just started enshrouded and I noticed my game being very grainy and pixelated, my graphics are mid-high my preset is balanced and resolution is 100%. Anyone know if reshading will fix or what I should do?

[native parrot]

YOUR world is YOUR world.

THEIR world is THEIR world

[prisma surge]

Mongo no understand :/

[native parrot]

Think of it as a banana

You have your banana 🍌
But they also have a banana 🍌

If you wanted to enjoy one banana 🍌 together, you have to either share your banana 🍌 or their banana 🍌

[woeful light]

never share bananas

[prisma surge]

Mongo like banana

[native parrot]

Your name not even mongo

[prisma surge]

hops up and down grunting

[native parrot]

Your name is COG

You are a wheel in a larger machination.

[prisma surge]

Mongo head hurt you no talk now

[native parrot]

I haven't been talking. It was all mongo's conscience.

We haven't met.

[prisma surge]

Mongo go smash ugly grey walking things now. Feel better.

[native parrot]

. . .wait. but I'm ugly.

Oh grey walking things ok. Nvm

[prisma surge]

Mongo no smash you, Mongo like banana

[native parrot]

I feel like I walked myself into a brick wall there.
Fair enough.

[prisma surge]

😛

Ill get server thing figured out Ive just never played coop always solo

[native parrot]

Server worlds are seperate.
Make a new server and can still use other chars

[prisma surge]

Actually I was thinking of trying out a mage. Been playing 1h melee this whole time

mages seem pretty OP

[native parrot]

They are op

[copper apex]

whenever you build a camp it stays in this world, u dont take it with you

[native parrot]

Crank. Help Crank

[woeful light]

if you rent a house, and make modifications, its still the landlords house. You don't take those changes with you when you move to a new house.

[prisma surge]

Actually now its beginning to make more sense

[native parrot]

[prisma surge]

So I log into another server, multi player or coop or just something that isnt my single player game and I dont have my camp there

[native parrot]

Correct

[prisma surge]

Now it makes sense

[copper apex]

exactly

[prisma surge]

But that kinda sucks

[native parrot]

🍌

[prisma surge]

So I can never visit someone elses house

[native parrot]

It doesn't suck.

It would he impossible to be the other way around

[woeful light]

yes, in their world

[copper apex]

sure, but u cant bring your own to it

[native parrot]

You can. If you join THEIR world

[prisma surge]

Ah ok that answers all my questions now I get it

[prisma surge]

Can I come visit and pick all your flowers?

[native parrot]

No, I won't let you.

[prisma surge]

lol

[native parrot]

I need my flax bruh

[prisma surge]

Another Flax Addict

[tame seal]

Don't have a flaxident.

[native parrot]

I have flax sees in my protein bars

[tawdry python]

Just log into their server.

[native parrot]

It's spring season so I have to pay my flaxes

[prisma surge]

Nah I will never log into a public or random server, griefers could easily decide to bomb my camp.

Or wait not they can it wouldnt be there

hah!

[native parrot]

Yes, never join public server

[tame seal]

Don't think of any of them as your base.... It's the worlds base.

[native parrot]

You dont own anything, the world does

[prisma surge]

No it's mine!

mine mine mine!

[tame seal]

The only thing you own is in your inventory.

[native parrot]

These 20 firebombs say otherwise

[prisma surge]

yeah thats what I am worried about

[tawdry python]

Everything you do on a server stays on that server for buildings and flame alters. Whether that's on your server, your friends or a public server. They don't mix. You can move stuff between servers if you put it into your bag.

[prisma surge]

I accidentally bombed myown camp just goofing off and spent the next hour repairing

So dont throw bombs in your camp

[tawdry python]

I've seen 7 people on videos that accidentally threw a bomb in their house and damaged it. That's why I never have bombs on my hotbars because I know I'd eventually accidentally hit that hotkey they're on.

[prisma surge]

Also why I cant imagine why anyone would make powder kegs. Nope not me.

[copper apex]

i literally have all explosives in my hotbar and even the bow is always loaded with explosive lol

[prisma surge]

I use exploding arrows but very conservingly they are expensive to make

[keen elbow]

If you need save system changed
Please upvote this

https://enshrouded.featureupvote.com/suggestions/542988/new-world-autosave-feedback

[tawdry python]

They may have been planning on allowing them to set outside of the flame alter to use against bosses and if you want to blow a door down in a dungeon.

I suppose you could place an alter close to a dungeon now and use a shroud core to expand the building range then place the explosive barrel next to the door and blow it open or lure a boss into the building area of where you have the alter and explosive barrel and blow it up.🤔

[native parrot]

Ah yes, good old smoke powder keg strats in bg3

The only thing better than a barrel of rum is a barrel of boom.

[tame seal]

I had such a vanilla run through of BG3

[native parrot]

Did you use the illithid powers?

[tame seal]

Literally the last chapter.

[native parrot]

Pfft. But they're so fun

Also, Astarion's best boi

Worth sacrificing 10,000 children for.

[tame seal]

No... just no....

[native parrot]

10/10 would do it for him again

Looses a bit of that chipper attitude we love so much but good grief does he get the job done.
...
When the job involves copious amounts of murder.

I'm just saying.

There's benefits to both sides.

https://tenor.com/view/disturbed-the-guy-smile-gif-27616794

[gentle forum]

What did I walk into lmao

[native parrot]

A lovely toothey smile.

[gentle forum]

https://tenor.com/view/jon-snow-game-of-thrones-got-i-dont-want-it-no-gif-14919569

[native parrot]

Wouldn't you agree Pri?
That Astarion is best boi?

😊

[gentle forum]

I lean more towards Gale, he’s… handy.

[quasi saffron]

I wonder. Did the devs completly remove the music playing when you place certain blocks? Or the music playing when you're in a cave?
I found that actually nice.

[tame seal]

I prefer Karlach myself.

[native parrot]

[tame seal]

I think there were notes that they'd 'toned down' the music whilst in caves?

[quasi saffron]

I prefer -not played up until today because somehow, my friends wanted me to get it, I tried it and I didn't like it.-
Yeah. But regulary the "necropolis" theme should play next to withered blocks... But it doesn't anymore.

[astral hull]

I don’t remember that being a thing

[tame seal]

I cant say i've tested it specifically.

[quasi saffron]

Oh. I summoned the big blue.

[pliant quarry]

Music would often play when it wasn't supposed to, or louder than it should be in the given context, but I am not sure if it might have caused collateral damage? Not really sure if this was intentional or not, if it's indeed removed.

But there's definitely been some changes to it as it would very frequently play in totally inappropriate contexts

[quasi saffron]

I only hear the meadows music. And I'm surrounded by withered blocks.

[astral hull]

I will say I have noticed a lot less music lately. It feels more quiet then it should be at times.

[quasi saffron]

And... That. Yes.

[astral hull]

Sometimes I turn the music all the way down. I turned it up for the update but I still check my settings from time to time cause it feels like it’s on mute again

[quasi saffron]

I just hoped to get some good background music to this fancy place I made my new advisor. #screenshots-and-art message

[deep raven]

looking for a friend that is around level 12-15 on their first playthrough that would like to join me through the rest of the game and wants to build something fancy together

[dry halo]

The need to throw in some Cannibal Corpse or Obituary in the Dungeons

[astral hull]

Such halls. Very hollow.

[tame seal]

Ask in https://discord.com/channels/1046840540550942720/1195389948069675009

[quasi saffron]

I mean. Every King needs a Palpatine as advisor. And Alden Crowley seems to fit that job perfectly.

These crypt-lightments burn through my resin.

[formal furnace]

what? why would you want a palpatine as advisor?

Palpatine is a guy that throws thunder, sees the thunder is killing him but still keeps throwing thunder

[quasi saffron]

Because every king needs such a guy.
A morally flawed advisor who whispers us into the ear to just do the wrong decision here and there.

[fringe snow]

Anyone know how I can find the public resource world?

[gentle forum]

Who's the king?

[copper apex]

all of our mommas 😅

[quasi saffron]

I guess the guy who's supposed to save Embervale.

Or the lady... Whatever we choose.

[copper apex]

that what i meant to say🤪

[pastel oyster]

#1206680816080392192 message

[deep raven]

ive heard of there being files to DL that are worlds with access to almost infinite building resources for creative building, where do i find that?

[pastel oyster]

#1206680816080392192 message

[carmine scroll]

are all the resource servers just building blocks or are there any with massive chests FULL of water or other such supplies?

[astral hull]

Most have other materials too

Along with weps and gear too

[copper apex]

literally everything, except low level gear

[elfin wraith]

Hows the FPS after the update guys? I quit right after the release cause it was laggy even though i had 100+ fps

[astral hull]

Much better now

[dire kraken]

So can someone explain to me why there is stuff like + miasma magic or + fire magic damage on legendary bows?
Like one might think it buffs the miasma or explosion arrows but that isnt the case. In general you often get very useless stats on legendary bows, while mage and warriors often get stats on their weapons that are at least useable

Like with bows you can be happy when you get +crit,+crit dmg and 3 times +backstab dmg because you can at least use all of those stats. Sure backstab damage is kinda useless when you play alone but 🤷‍♂️

[astral hull]

There are bows that do that

[dire kraken]

I would also like to know why there is only a single legendary lvl 25 longbow

[dire kraken]

There is exactly ONE bow that does that

and yet as I said backstab dmg while at least useable isn't optimal

when warriors can get +3 times piercing dmg, +crit and +crit dmg and mages can get 5x +shock dmg and similar stuff

I also don't care too much about suboptimal stats. But why is there +magic dmg on bows when it does literally NOTHING not even the thing you think they would do aka buffing the damage of arrows with the coresponding dmg type

[dry halo]

I can tell you armor pierce on the bow 3x does nothing

The Composit BOw

[dire kraken]

armor pierce doesnt even exist as rollable stat

the composit bow doesnt give armor pierce but pierce armor

[dry halo]

Well this bow has it 3X on it

[astral hull]

I don’t really fully understand the elemental damage buffs. I don’t think they’re working properly or maybe I don’t get how it’s supposed to works.

[dire kraken]

no

[dry halo]

yes

[dire kraken]

that bow gives 3x pierce armor

not 3 times armor pierce

it enhances your armor value against piercing dmg

[dry halo]

WTF is the difference

[dire kraken]

and doesn't deal extra piercing dmg

that's the difference

[dry halo]

Well that is some bad english right there

[dire kraken]

it really is

[dire kraken]

Yes that's what I'm thinking too.

I think it's intended that the elemental buffs actually buf elemental arrows like the miasma or explosion arrow yet they don't

So it's either an oversight

[dry halo]

So what is "Armor" in this game?

[astral hull]

Are those the only two types of elemental buffs on bows?

[dire kraken]

OR we get fancy magic arrows someday

[timid plank]

I think item stats just need an overhaul

[dire kraken]

only two I can think of right now

[dire kraken]

That my friend is an excellent question that certainly has an answer which I cant give you because i don't fully grasp the armor system myself

[dry halo]

Well no matter what I do, it does not change my piercing resistance

I have it in my hand and I have it equiped

[dire kraken]

Well that's funny

because then I don't know what the hell the stat is supposed to do

[dry halo]

Piercing stays 0

LMAO!

[dire kraken]

because it also doesn't enhance your piercing dmg

[barren ether]

It enhances you resistance to piercing

[dire kraken]

well if it does it doesn't note that change in the character stats

[dire kraken]

It's probably comming down to this

[timid plank]

Too many items with hidden stats or stats that dont actually do anything

[pastel oyster]

If you find items with stats that aren't displayed or displayed stats that don't work, please send a bug report to the developers from inside the game's escape menu (or by pressing F1) so that we are sure that the devs are aware of the issue. It's possible that they could go unreported and they don't know it's happening due to the type of bug it is.

Many people don't report stuff like this. lol

[barren ether]

Honestly the report form is pretty uninviting, gotta fill a long list including an email and stuff and i feel like thats what puts people off

I think reporting should just be a screenshot and a optional name entry to thank when discovering

[dire kraken]

Would be funny if they somehow missed that 65% of the stats that are on bows dont do anything

[quasi saffron]

I think stats will see at some point a overhaul

[barren ether]

Im pretty sure they know about it, they are still implementing updates that help the damage system so i think ita just not implemented yet

[quasi saffron]

There's nothing wrong with shroud bows beefing up shroud arrow damage. But for that, there should be a incentive to actually use them.
Which is not given, because 80% of our enemies would be defiant to them.

[barren ether]

Exactly! Same with anything that deals shroud, its only useful againt a couple enemies and the animals

[pastel oyster]

If no one has actually reported it, it's possible. I mean unlikely, but possible.

[barren ether]

Oh nah the fake stats are definitely on the list of things to fix / add

[quasi saffron]

Well, the same goes for most bows and such.
Bow didn't got the headshot / regen stam trait? It's garbage.
Wand didn't got the mana leech / staff didn't got it? Garbage.
There are certain stats, that just don't match yet.
Also, +1 life/mana regen on a 30+ weapon is not really helpful at all.

[pastel oyster]

Still it can't hurt, just in case it was a specific weapon or armor they don't know about. The more communication there is between the player base and the devs, the better, especially in an Early Access title like this.

[quasi saffron]

I imagined when I started I could use a bow / arrows to refill mana or such. Would be a cool idea for a casting wizard/archer build.
Then I hit reality. Sadly. 😅

[barren ether]

The highest level you can find is 25 right? (Un-upgraded)

[quasi saffron]

Actually 30 now, it seems to got up this patch

[barren ether]

Thats with the upgrades no?

[pastel oyster]

And for the record... I am sorry if I am typing a bit weird or have massive typos... my cat is literally gassing me out here... I just had to open the window and light a candle... my eyes are burning...

[dire kraken]

Stam regen isnt even important imo. Almost all lvl 25 bows are Shortbows with 0 stam consumption and you get a bunch of regen from food and gear

[barren ether]

Grilled Yucca!! +20 stan regen for 10m

[carmine scroll]

STOP FEEDING YOUR CAT BEANS

[pastel oyster]

I have learned that there are worse side effects that barfing when switching your cat's diet.

[quasi saffron]

About the light a candle part... Isn't that dangerous next to a gassy cat?

[carmine scroll]

💥

[pastel oyster]

I mean as long as she doesn't fart over my candle it should be fine... 🤣

[barren ether]

So can you find a level 30 and upgrade it to 35? @quasi saffron

[dire kraken]

I hope the gas concentration isnt high enough to cause an explosion yet

[quasi saffron]

More like 25>30 now
From what I heard

[dire kraken]

🤣

[pastel oyster]

I'm about 51% sure it isn't... but my nose is telling me differently.

[barren ether]

Oh alright thx

[quasi saffron]

Didn't got any legy this patch worth upgrading

[pastel oyster]

GAAAWD... it's just FLOATING here... someone send a breeze or something 😭

[dire kraken]

The hollowed items are nice to fight the hollowed enemies

Havent upgraded anything else

[pastel oyster]

I don't have my altar upgraded enough to withstand this shroud...

[barren ether]

The bonescourge weapons that are supposed to deal extra dmg to the hollowed… deal LESS damage than any other weapon of the same category to the hollowed lmao

[quasi saffron]

Back to stats...
I'd actually love to see bows to change the element of arrows you shoot.
Like ice arrows with poison or fire arrows with Shroud.

Or that your arrows leave a puddle of acid.

[barren ether]

Maybe an eternal arrow that consumes mana 🌚

[dire kraken]

I would like them to have functional Stats. All of those + x magic dmg stats dont do anything

[quasi saffron]

Same goes for melees weapons

Why should I take a mace with +frost damage, when I cannot equip anything icey with it to deal that damage?

Same with the fire one Jezminas or how it's called

[carmine scroll]

does the mace just not do that ice damage???

[dire kraken]

Jezminas at least as some fire dmg if you look at the dmg distribution of the weapon idk if it does anything tho

I have seen those a few times on melee weapons and assumed they then actually deal that dmg type as listed

[carmine scroll]

so what, it only buffs other ice damage??? that would be bizarre

[quasi saffron]

Actually not.
From what I could tell is just boosts the sun auras damage to Shroud enemies

[dire kraken]

The stat system really needs to be a bit more clear

I think I gonna do some tests tomorrow

[barren ether]

Wait wtf are Jezminas

[dire kraken]

It's just a named fire axe you can get from a rukah boss

[barren ether]

Its called jezminas?

[dire kraken]

There is an equivalent for it as lvl 25 legendary

[barren ether]

In my 23 years playing enshrouded ive never heard of that

[dire kraken]

😄

[barren ether]

No seriously what is it? And what does it do? Is it worth? Where can i find it?

[dire kraken]

Just kill the Rukah Boss on the way to the savanah biome it's a guranteed drop

It's not really worth unless you collect named items like me

[barren ether]

I def do

Any land marks?

[quasi saffron]

I'd more like to see the following:
Melee weapons: Gain raw stats for the first +4 perks like +x health, mana, stamina, armor, et cetera.
The last perk would be somewhat of:

1. Your Sun Aura now includes all types of enemies
2. You've got a Chance to unleash a "Sun Strike" dealing damage around you for x% melee damage dealt.
3. Your brightness blends your enemies, giving them a chance of ~50% to miss their next hit on you.

Ranger would need effects such as arrows exploding into elemental puddles, or have a chance to duplicate them, or something poisony... Because as of yet, poison only works on animals which is... Wasted.
Wands are with overload somewhat fine, but should need mana to fire and idk... It's a bit boring and way to strong yet to everything. A wand should've a rare chance to throw a spell out at rank X. For example a shock wand could throw out a chain lightning.
The magician staffs should actually higher up the mana, buff mana reg to make u able to cast more often and provide some magical defense for the type they buff you.
Also, maybe, some weapons should have as legendary effects that augmentate some talents, such as "blink range highered" and such.
But that's just my ideas.

But one thing is for sure.
If it stays the way it is now, the fighting will become stale at some point.
You'll oneshot your enemies or just get obliterated...

[dire kraken]

Havent visited that place in months. But as I said it's should be close to the border where you first enter the savanah biome. You can probably find it on YouTube faster than I could explain it 😄

[dire kraken]

Well warriors dont really get obliterated and they certainly dont oneshot.
They deal like 3-400dmg a hit while life leeching and need like 5-7 business days to kill an enemy

[quasi saffron]

Thats why I think they need more raw stats

[tidal falcon]

Fuuuuuuudge brownies

My base dissapeared my flame went out somehow

I lost 6000 runes s and sooo much mire

40 hours WASTED

AAAAASSASSSHHHHHHAAAAAAAAASSSSSSSS

SORRY HAD TO RAGE publicly and shame myself

[dire kraken]

Happens to the best

[prisma surge]

Speaking of weapons I been using the same mediocre broadsword for a long time, and idea where I could find a good 1h sword? Or is it just completely random?

[tidal falcon]

I killed the wyvern at lvl 9 btw

[prisma surge]

Is the reward for the Dragon Cave a 1h or 2h?

[tidal falcon]

I was damn lucky there is this funny bug i discovered

[misty swan]

these birds are the dumbest thing ive fought in a game in a long time

[prisma surge]

I hate the birds. Try fighting them as melee

[tidal falcon]

Extinguished

[tidal falcon]

These big dinosaur birds???

[misty swan]

the fact that it can attack me through my block for full damage 75% of the time combined with the fact that even while locked onto it and watching my sword animation cleanly bisect its body I still miss my hits 90% of the time...

[tidal falcon]

Or those dodos?

I love my common lvl23 scorching wand

[misty swan]

the dodos are annoying (and yes dumb but a different kind of dumb) i am talking about the dinos tho

[tidal falcon]

Scorching wand and long distance atack keep your shild up all the time because that block dmg and you can do that asap you get out of the stun

[misty swan]

they only hit for about 225 (the level 30 ones) but they widdle me down if i cant hit them to heal myself

[tidal falcon]

The birds atack are equal to your KO state so you can always pop your shield and JUMP away asap you have enough stami a

[tidal falcon]

Wait lvl 30

Never mind im fighting those at 20+

😵

Still cant enter the red shroud

[carmine scroll]

So if a weapon has shroud damage on it does it DO shroud damage or does it Enhance a magic spell that does shroud damage?

[prisma surge]

Has anyone used additional flame alters to expand your camp limits?

[misty swan]

so why does this game block windows gamehub from poping up?

[dire kraken]

For bows it seems that it doesnt do anything. For melee I dont know, neither do I know it for wands and staffs

[carmine scroll]

hmmmmmmmmmmm

[quasi saffron]

For wands it does increase the damage from what I can tell.
Also for staffs the case.
But I think it does not work for bows and melee weapons...
Or only If combined with talents

[carmine scroll]

what talents do shroud damage???

[quasi saffron]

In this case arrows

[carmine scroll]

so i have a Soothsayer with 66 damage but + 52 blunt damge
and aRotblood with 78 damage with +30 blunt and +30 shroud.
I wonder which one I should use.

like, how does a melee weapon on my belt aid a bow when my bow is the one equiped?

[misty swan]

@tidal falcon #screenshots-and-art message

[quasi saffron]

I don't know. Really.
It's a bit hard to make out how the math works actually.
Which is one of the reasons I guess no one meddled with it yet in depth. 🤷‍♂️

[carmine scroll]

so how do we hound the Devs for answers?! >:D

[prisma surge]

The chairs in this game are really tiny

[carmine scroll]

use a throne.

[prisma surge]

More like kiddie chairs

[carmine scroll]

how good is a ring with 8% life leach, and that's on attacks right?

[astral hull]

well before it was a chance of life leech happening but now i believe its a percentage of damage done

[carmine scroll]

hmmmmm

[astral hull]

theres only one life leech ring tho ircc

[dry halo]

I ran 2x 6% life leech, while I did not pay hyper-attention, I did notice that my life would increase fast. But this was before the patch

[carmine scroll]

i have 2. a gold that does 6% and a purple that does 8%

[astral hull]

stats are bonkers rn, idk how to even interpret that

why would the epic ring have more life leech than the legendary one

[dry halo]

After the patch

[carmine scroll]

i'd say level difference but there is none.

[dry halo]

THe patch upped things

[astral hull]

i know life leech was touched for the update

but now weve got two rings that make no sense

[dry halo]

FYI, WIKI claims Piercing Damage

[carmine scroll]

they made some changes to the wells too. I need to look into that.

[coral forum]

How do you get the Hallow Halls quest??

I have the alchemist

[carmine scroll]

talk to the alchemist

oh snap, high level roots must give more skill points cause I got 12 i didnt even know I ahd.

[astral hull]

I think it scales per zone

from what i recall its about 1,2,3,4? maybe 1,1,4,5? i dont remember the specifics

[carmine scroll]

👀

[wraith umbra]

They don't

Its 1 per normal shroud root, 3 per elixir well shroud root

[astral hull]

Ah i see, that makes more sense. Thank you for correcting me

[plain coral]

can anyone help me out with smth armor related

[wraith umbra]

There is an extra skill point given by exploring the shrout root by the bridge at the border to the north

still no idea what brings the other two skill points

[wraith umbra]

If it's a question sure

[astral hull]

I feel like a root gave me 5 but I probably already had two prior to clearing it

[plain coral]

is there anywhere on the map with some kinda knight armor or something i can just book it to? I'm early game just barely got the blacksmith

[carmine scroll]

okay.... thats some bullshit but partly my fault.
I killed a scyth wraite and his loot pile is on the red river........-.-

[gentle forum]

I’m unsure but I think a quest gives a skill point, one of the early ones perhaps

[wraith umbra]

It will be a while before you get access to new armor from the blacksmith or from chests in game

[gentle forum]

I’ll open WeMod and teleport to all the shroud roots and see which ones give more than one

[astral hull]

Gear is rng so even if you booked to to where the chests are, you'd have to pray to get what youre looking for. You're better off progressing naturally with what you can craft until you can farm chests if thats what you want to do.

Additionally, if you progress naturally, you wont have such a hard time with higher level zones

[gentle forum]

I can only think of a handful of static armor pieces, the wanderers boots and armor in pikesmead

[carmine scroll]

once you unlock bronze you can get the mercenary armor which looks like gothic plate. sexy as all heck to be honest.

ha ha ha ha ha ha i managed to dig down and grab it. went down to 1 minute out of like 15. yikes. XD

[plain coral]

ahh thank you guys

[carmine scroll]

y'all said it was worth getting blood rage right?

[plain coral]

im just so sick of looking at my character i need some helmet or smth 💀

[wraith umbra]

Yes

[carmine scroll]

aight. im 1 point short. D:

[wraith umbra]

The blacksmith has armor you can make

[topaz current]

good evening

[carmine scroll]

oh. no. im 1 point short of barbarian and then i need 5 for blood rage.

i need to spend sometime this weekend getting a TON of Tin and copper so I can make enough bronze for my feast hall and then i can respec.

[gentle forum]

Yep just teleported around to all of the Shroud Roots. Ended up with 26 Skill Points.

Two of them are from a level up. The Ancient Bridge Shroud Root did indeed give one.

[coral forum]

The alchemist wont give me the qeust for the dungeon, do you all the quests of hers before it?

[topaz current]

so what level did everyond go into beat the dragon a pikes? ive tried a few times and failed horribly

[coral forum]

The alchemist wont give me the hollow halls quest
Do I do all her previous quests first>

Pls someone help

[thorn citrus]

alchmmist isnt the one that does it

its the new guy

forgot his name

[coral forum]

Collector?

[thorn citrus]

yep

[coral forum]

So you have to find it then free him?

[thorn citrus]

yep im pretty sure you have it already in your quest log hes right around where you started the game to the left somewhere if im not mistaken

[charred aspen]

why cant i progress past "find the hollow halls"?

it just says "location reached" but nothing happens

[quiet geyser]

Ok it can't be just me that's getting horrible performance at low graphics on a high end laptop right

Like when the game loads, textures haven't loaded, my character hasn't loaded, the map hasn't loaded, the UI hasn't loaded...

This hasn't happened before the update so

[midnight lance]

@charred aspen is it for the first cyclops step in the quest?

[pastel oyster]

Some people have noticed that installing NVidias new "beta" version of Vulkan has helped with those issues. you can download it here: https://sdk.lunarg.com/sdk/download/1.3.275.0/windows/VulkanRT-1.3.275.0-Installer.exe

[quiet geyser]

ill try that

didnt know that Vulkan was an Nvidia thing

i swear if i end up downloading a trojan or anything like that

your a helper so ill put my trust issues aside

Ah so it's similar to Direct X which is what I use

Do I need to do anything else fancy after installing or will it do it's runtime magic when I launch the game

[pastel oyster]

it's not. it's open source, but I think they made it because there was issues with the NVIDIA drivers and Vulkan. I suppose I should make sure you have an NVidia card though xD

[quiet geyser]

Don't worry I have a 4070m

[pastel oyster]

I just assumed.

[vagrant magnet]

oh yeah someone showed me that one and my game does feel improved by a bit with loading

[quiet geyser]

Never had a Ryzen card or AMD

[pastel oyster]

Okay - you are safe then 🙂

[quiet geyser]

I thought it was another program eating my ram. I did notice Wemod at second place in the ram eating department of task manager

Oh no that did absolutely nothing with the loading and textures

[vagrant magnet]

maybe have a quick restart of your PC/laptop?

[quiet geyser]

Could be. I updated my driver but I didn't restart

[vagrant magnet]

yeah try to restart :D

[novel grotto]

Is Warden set more tanky than soilder?

[vagrant magnet]

supposingly

it is mainly a tanker set

[novel grotto]

ty!

[thorn citrus]

bro this freaking gymnastics in nomads hallow is annoying lmao

[prisma surge]

That Ghost Glider might be a little too fast I kill myself more often with that thing

[novel grotto]

lol

[thorn citrus]

wow

I can respawn

[vagrant magnet]

Suggestion: Make it go faster, the faster speed you land with it, the more dmg you take

[thorn citrus]

cant

I died and i dont have the option to respawn. If i restart my game will i have to do thge hallows all over again?

[formal furnace]

Do you take damage now landing with gliders

[prisma surge]

The wierd thing is you can literally nose dive straight into the ground and be just fine. I get killed by not dodgin obstacle in time like trees and cliffs then fall to my death

[plain crag]

Can't you deploy the glider again?

[gentle forum]

@wraith umbra So, I just went and got the 48 SP from leveling from 1-25, the 24 from Shroud Roots, 39 from Elixir Wells, and the 1 from Ancient Bridge.

I reset skill points and it gave me 2.

[prisma surge]

If you hit something it cancels the glider and you can fall and take dmg or die. Ghost Glider is really fast it's can be hard to manuever in time

[plain crag]

Right, but as you're falling can't you deploy the glider again? I do that all the time.

[vagrant magnet]

lmao yeah, I think they need to make that so when you head dive like that you must finish a few key combo, beat minecraft then play through Skyrim then you get no landing dmg bonus or else you will take fall dmg and die.

DEV pls hire me, I'm good at game designing

[plain crag]

Just spam the spacebar.

[wraith umbra]

Weird...

[gentle forum]

I did do the quests to collect NPCs before I reset.

But, before that I was sitting at 112.

[prisma surge]

Or you glide into a shroud with thick fog only to realize at the last second you are heading straight into the nasty red stuff and no time to manuever

We hates the red stuff

[gentle forum]

Figured it out!

I just made a fresh character, used xp scrolls to get to 25, got 48. Reset and I was given 2 more.

[plain crag]

Who knew you needed Top Gun flight school training for these dungeons?

[wraith umbra]

So it is a level thing

[gentle forum]

Yes.

We should have 111 skill points NOT 114.

[wraith umbra]

🥳

[gentle forum]

Passed it along to devs. We'll see if they take away our stolen 3 skill points or not lmao.

[tawdry python]

I certainly hope they don't take away the 3. The anger stirred up from it might cause a lot of controversy.

[pastel oyster]

People will survive.

[tawdry python]

I forgot do we start out with a few points or nothing in skill points?

[gentle forum]

No you do not. I just tested for the past two hours.

[tawdry python]

Thank you for checking

[gentle forum]

You get 48 skill points from leveling from 1 to 25. (Resetting skill points gives you two free skill points).
3 per Elixir Well and 1 per Shroud Root for 39 and 24 respectively. Discovering one Shroud Root at the Ancient Bridge gives you a Shroud Root.

So, we should only have 111.

[quiet geyser]

Wait wells give you 3? I thought it was just 1 like regular shroud roots but more annoying to get to

That explains why whenever I level up in a well but don't spec until I chop down the root I end up with 5. Like I know I'm forgetful but I remembered I specced every time I level up

[gentle forum]

I'm checking to see what level gives you the extra two skill points now.

Yeah.. as soon as you start the game, even at level 1 you're awarded two skill points.

[gentle forum]

You were correct!

Seems you start out with two skill points, resetting gives them to you.

[ancient lintel]

i had 114 total when i had 100% completion and lv 25

[gentle forum]

Thank you for that information.

I've already completed my research and testing, solved where the 3 extra come from.

[ancient lintel]

the skill point fairy, everyone knows that

[tawdry python]

Good, I was beginning to think I was remembering things wrong.🤣

[gentle forum]

Yes and no lol.

You do start with 0 but if you reset you’re just given 2 for no apparent reason.

[tawdry python]

I remembered that 114 was the max, didn't bother to do the math to see where everything was coming from.

[subtle prawn]

That's why others did the math and then started checking the results

[tulip peak]

Anyone know why my friend from Australia gets 300 ping and can't play at all while other online coop style games work fine with minimal lag?

[ancient lintel]

same reason their toilets swirl the wrong way

[wraith umbra]

my assumption is reset is just level * 2 skill points and not (level-1) *2

[quiet geyser]

Hey calm down aussies rule

[wraith umbra]

the explore point is the super out of the blue one

[quiet geyser]

we can co op any other game, just latency is bad on enshrouded

[gentle forum]

Yeah no idea why just that area gives a skill point, doesn’t make sense

[ancient lintel]

ocean koala chewed the internet lines

[subtle prawn]

Could just be a coding error

[quiet geyser]

I give up

[tulip peak]

I'm just saying I can go on a t-mobile hotspot with 10mbps and 350ping and still play call of duty (not enjoyably) but this game an australian can get 45mbps and 50ping and the server can't handle the 270 ping within the server...

[queen rapids]

Does anyone know how durability on weapons work? I did the first HH and the weapons was worn down pretty quickly, and luckily i had some extra weapons in my inventory to deal with all the trash in there.

[hearty pond]

welcome to early access

[prisma frost]

This game still early access?

[snow plaza]

!price

[queen rapids]

Not sure what is normal ping for games. I remember when I had mobile internet, 50ms in WoW was not very good. With cable i have like 8ms.

[hearty pond]

“Once more into the frie... Into the last good price check I'll ever know. Live and die on this day... Live and die on this day

[tawdry python]

It can vary quite a bit depending upon the game and the distance a person is from where the server is.

[queen rapids]

Yeah, but games accepts various levels of ping. Some games are sensitive and disconnects easily, others allows for large delays.

[snow plaza]

👀

Wow

[hearty pond]

i mean it;s 3 things you must consider for ping, the distance from server or servers, your internet connection and finally a VPN may help with better ping

[tawdry python]

I played the mobile version of War Thunder last year and kept get MASSIVE spikes of 999 ping even though I have a consistently strong mobile signal. I left the game because of that and other problems too.

[hearty pond]

well 999 ping can mean 2 things, server not stable, or you had bad connection

[ancient lintel]

ping directly relates to number of ocean koalas are chewing on your internet wires

[hearty pond]

for pvp the ping will matter far more

around 250 ping can work for pve stuff, anything above that and you will feel major problems

[ancient lintel]

i don't see pvp ever being a thing in this game

[hearty pond]

only time will tell

i would say co-op pvp would be the easier step to add, but of course the major one would be pvp and everyone playing one server

[queen rapids]

ping would also be important in groups, if the bosses gets more challenging. Right now, i don't think it is a problem.

[hearty pond]

well, if you live in the asian content, you will feel the greatest wrath

[ancient lintel]

rightly deserved

[hearty pond]

ping normally falls under 3 area,s local ping, meaning you live in the same country and you will be around 30 to 50 ping, on the same side of the world and you will be around 100 to 120 ping, then you get the major influxes of 250 plus ping if you are on the other side of the world in relation to the servers

[queen rapids]

Of course. I also play Div2 and sometimes when the European servers is down for maintenance, for some reason it automatically picks Asia and the latency is atrocious.

[hearty pond]

it probably picks the least popular server to help boost the numbers

i know some games do that, like a next in line server

[queen rapids]

I don't know but it could as well just say server down for maintance because it is basically unplayable, at least with others.

[hearty pond]

well, the least servers tend to have more problems since it;s not a server that is tracked as much as the main servers for maintenance, or gets less updates for stability, since it's used far less

[lethal mason]

guys i feel down... i found these two cool guys to play with recently and I dont know why but seems i got blocked and kick out of their discord server....

feels bad and feel down. I dont even know what I did.... Wish they would have just told me they no longer wanted to play with me instead of just blocking me from everything...

[hearty pond]

people will do evil things, even when you try to find reason or rationalize it, some people just want to watch the world burn

reasoning is the most logical step, but even then you may find yourself in the dark, because the answer eludes you

[lethal mason]

yea... that could... well ima go lay down and just try to fall asleep. Maybe i'll feel better in the morning

[queen rapids]

Probably no point wasting time thinking about it. If they weren't decent enough to talk to you about why, they probably wouldn't be worth your time anyway.

[formal furnace]

I wouldn't classify not wanting to play with someone as evil tbh

[queen rapids]

I agree, but ghosting people is.

[formal furnace]

Honestly it depends

[quasi saffron]

Talking about ghosts... 👻

[formal furnace]

But I wouldn't count this case as neccessarily evil

[queen rapids]

I don't know how this played out, so I can't really say.

[lethal mason]

The person's server just disappeared, I got removed from all friends list and not sure if I got blocked with no explanation as to why. I guess not evil but does make me feel like crap. Reason is started playing with them cuz I felt lonely just gaming alone after my friend stop playing enshrouded so just made me feel worst.... but I guess its not evil

[quasi saffron]

Sadly that's the internet.
You'll always meet people that will do such, also is drama sometimes a constant thing.
I can tell as a guild leader in WoW.

[lethal mason]

Any ways sorry to bring it up. Hope everyone has a good night.

[pastel oyster]

Wouldn't you still be able to see the server if it were up? I don't think you can make a server invisible to someone

Maybe it had nothing to do with you and they just took everything down and closed the discord.

[lethal mason]

Discord server. And whenever we gamed it was locally hosted, not dedicated

[lethal mason]

Thought that too so I sent one a msg on steam. I got removed from their steam friend list as well.

That's just the Internet and I have to get use to it.

[pastel oyster]

eh, who knows.

[quasi saffron]

You don't need to necessarily feel sorry. 🤔
Honestly you seem like an okay person. Would eventually play with u If our time zone aligns. Cause I get Enshrouded-ghosted from my friends also recently.
But If you go now to sleep and I just started working I think our time zones just don't align.

[lethal mason]

Thank for the offer though , maybe one day we can game. 🙂

[quasi saffron]

I mean. Errr.
Soonest I'd have time would be exactly in 12 hrs.

[lethal mason]

No worries. I wouldn't be free until 15 hours

[quasi saffron]

And that's already late for me. Got only like 3-4 hrs.

[lethal mason]

Good night everyone and hope everyone has a good rest

[quasi saffron]

You too.

[subtle prawn]

Good night

[prisma frost]

where do I put save file that my friend sent?

[astral saddle]

anyone got a spare lvl25 legendary ice blade?

[formal furnace]

I'll be honest this is one of the tamest things that can happen to you on the internet. Like if you don't even know those people don't be so emotionally involved that you start feeling down because they don't want to play with you. I say this as advice btw.

Sometimes it's better to just not care

[subtle cypress]

just wanted to say that after playing 100+ hours of this game, that other than it's building features, it's complete trash. spend an hour and a half on these "cool new hollow dungeons" just to recieve my 5th epic sinister staff in these "awsome new, expansive dungeons" trash

[tulip peak]

Her you could at least provide some constructive criticism. People don’t spend 100 hours on pure trash.

[gentle forum]

Do you have anything else you’d like to say or do you just want to be negative?

[pastel oyster]

✨ Don't feed the trolls. ✨

[safe swan]

Morning 🍵

[pastel oyster]

🙂

[quasi saffron]

Early Access. Point out what does disturb you or what you deem "Trash". Maybe the devs will take the feedback at heart.
But I for instance can only say the dungeons go into the right direction. Only the lack of individual loot makes it a bit dull. 🤷‍♂️

[pastel oyster]

Good Morning 😄

[gentle forum]

Who? I don’t feed people.

[quiet geyser]

my guy... if your going to bash the game when you have 100+ hours into it. then why'd you keep playing?!

[prisma frost]

Help 🥺

[quasi saffron]

Also the game cannot add +100 hrs of content over night. 😉

[quiet geyser]

you think that you have 100 hours you have a right to call something trash? you wouldn't have played it for 100+ hours if you didn't like it.

[gentle forum]

Alright let’s not harass them. They said their piece.

[snow plaza]

Subjective

[pastel oyster]

The "I've played 100+ hours" thing is a troll meme from "trolling for dummies." You are pretty much certain that when you read that, it's just someone looking to get your hackles up.

[quiet geyser]

sorry lol, he hit a nerve...

won't harass any longer

[gentle forum]

I played 100 hours and I still can’t craft a flame altar ):

[split schooner]

I love the view from my build location but it's too small before the sheer drop and too close to the red EA line. I need a new home. 😦

[mossy meteor]

Good Morning everyone

[safe swan]

Morning

[split schooner]

I like being up on mountains and stuff bleh.

[queen rapids]

I can honestly say HH wasn't my thing either. I really liked the sun temples though.

[gentle forum]

I like hearing people complain about dying to the glider section.

[split schooner]

I really hate the flying puzzles in HH and haven't done the last eon because I am dreaading it.

[queen rapids]

I have only done one of them, so i cant really complain about those 😂

[gentle forum]

Practice makes perfect, craft the glider below the ghost glider and see if you do better

[prisma frost]

guys. I need help 🥺