halfsword-chat-⚔

[gritty salmon]

Halfsword is intended for people who are missing hands guys

[elder tendon]

i don't use this phrase lightly but that's genuinely a skill issue.

[soft drift]

i dont think that has to do with flailing your weapon around

[gritty salmon]

😭

[gritty salmon]

This is also true

[soft osprey]

Alright well I’ll be honest, not sure what you’re looking for here. The game is boring to you, and difficult to play because you’re missing fingers

So

Idk man 😭

[terse cloak]

beeb didnt you tell me i have a skill issue not five minutes ago

[gritty salmon]

Plays game that requires precise controls on computer

[elder tendon]

no

that was someone else

[gritty salmon]

Is missing fingers

W mans

[spiral girder]

Flailing my weapon around.....? I meant the character/avatar in general.

[exotic parcel]

everyone finds their fun in the game - i like to play like a bollywood hero

[terse cloak]

dont flail then dono

[soft drift]

does the game know you're missing fingers irl so it makes your character trip around or something

im legit confused as to how that makes you fall down

[spiral girder]

FaIR enough.

[gritty salmon]

W mans

[spiral girder]

How is flailing = falling down?

[sand dirge]

https://tenor.com/view/half-life-breaking-bad-gordon-freeman-walter-white-get-real-gif-25294153

[soft drift]

what do you mean by flailing then?????

[soft osprey]

Anyways how bout that halfsword weather

[spiral girder]

Ragdoll mechanics?

[terse cloak]

what weather

[sleek gull]

Ah!

So with this game, precise control is the name of the game. I suggest really focusing on smaller, controlled movements. This will help you feel less like flailing, and more like you are in control of the weapon. Here is an example.

Whipping your mouse from side to side across your desk, is the worst way to approach the combat. Small, precise movements are the way to go.

[terse cloak]

its always fucking sunny

[soft drift]

how does missing fingers change this im so lost

idk man

[elder tendon]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1086506182090440794/1470589245230940201/77CEEB1.MP4?ex=698c8136&is=698b2fb6&hm=1d207c606c027e4cbd8695112825059b8da5994967852a5949c8ea39365446c4&

[spiral girder]

That's bold to assume I own a desk. I use a TV dinner stand for my M&K.

[terse cloak]

how tf you flashstepping

[sleek gull]

Which fingers on which hand?

With my corsair keyboard and mouse, I can remap keys. I have most of my actions bound to the mouse, rather than the keyboard. Perhaps your setup also has keybinding software to make the controls more accessible for your condition

[sleek gull]

lol same difference = )

[gritty salmon]

Give them helmet padding bro

Why are they like this

[wheat rock]

somehow losing an index finger resulted in him thinking the only way to use the mouse is swing it side to side and that is not a good tactc in this game

[sleek gull]

Holding shift allows you to "sprint" which also gives you a faster side step

[spiral girder]

One has a lot more space to spam,

[soft drift]

padding will not save you from that😭

[fierce wedge]

adrenochrome

[gritty salmon]

It might not make your helmet go flying off and one shot them at times

Like what

[spiral girder]

That's cool. I can't afford those things.

[elder tendon]

I'm sorry but none of these are problems with the game itself.

[sleek gull]

This is how little space you need for mouse movement in this game

[small glen]

REPOST!!!!!!!!!

[soft drift]

getting smacked in the head with a polearm will one shot you padding or not

[worn citrus]

hehe

[spiral girder]

And you assume I use more than that,......?

[wheat rock]

theres free remapping software so no excuse though :)

[soft drift]

okay so all the things you've described have actually nothing to do with the game other than the fact that you're playing it😭

[small glen]

Let me guess: You think maces were the bane of armor existence?

[spiral girder]

You need the fingers in order to press the buttons.

[soft drift]

no but being cracked on the side of the skull with a polearm at full swing will still fuck you up with or without padding

[wheat rock]

damn did you lose your entire hand since your last message that indicated it was just the index finger?

[elder tendon]

this is true for most games

[gritty salmon]

I’ve instakjlkdd knights with hits to the head

[spiral girder]

Am I not allowed an opinion or something?

[gritty salmon]

Thats insane

[small glen]

Not rly

[sleek gull]

You said you don't have a lot of space. I'm simply demonstrating that you should be ok with the space available to you to move the mouse as much as this game requires.

[soft drift]

but you say the game is boring like its the games fault when its not😭

[gritty salmon]

You won’t get cracked in the first place

[spiral girder]

True. But I don't have to remap keys for DayZ or Rebirth of Souls.

[gritty salmon]

You need a horse to do that type of shit

[gritty salmon]

This isn’t the games fault

Unlucky you don’t have index fingers but t like

The devs can’t fix your issue bro

[wheat rock]

dude 100% just ragebaiting atp or he is a really special guy

[spiral girder]

Developers can't make accessibility options? I never knew that.

I always thought it was on the customer.

[gritty salmon]

What accessibility option can they give for missing finger

[elder tendon]

Yes, a physical disability may sometimes require you to need to adapt to certain situations that others may not have to. Those games are not at all similar to this one.

[elder tendon]

Being able to remap keys is the accessibility option.

[spiral girder]

They have a lot more buttons to press than Half Sword.

[small glen]

I hate that people still think blunt weapons could one shot knights irl 😭 the purpose of them was to disorient or concuss a knight so you can toss them to the ground: The entire idea behind blunt weapons, was to THROW ARMORED PEOPLE to the floor

[soft drift]

you're looking for that in the demo version of the game

thats another thing

[spiral girder]

Which I need 3rd party software for.

[soft drift]

for free

[small glen]

there a good video on how Mordschlag, does jack shit against a knight besides slightly nudge them

[warm void]

My Willie is kinda short

[sleek gull]

Unfortunately, keybinding changes are not available in the Demo. However in the recently released Early Access version, you can change those keybinds to better suit your accessibility needs.

[feral moon]

You can press f for slomo

[gritty salmon]

“Blunt weapons” all those weapons have some kind of sharpness

[small glen]

keep in mind that same Pommel from a sword can shatter cinderblocks

[wheat rock]

actually they work extremely well for this example
DayZ uses WASD, shift, and space just like half sword, and it has more complex keybindings too so this alone shows that halfsword is literally no different than usual and he still blames it somehow

[spiral girder]

So the game isn't for me, then.

[small glen]

that like rly depends..

[feral moon]

Why i think the damage is a bit over tuned imo

[elder tendon]

I mean. You absolutely could though with the right kind of hit. Disabling someone and taking them out of the fight with one-hit is the same as "one-shotting" them.

[fallen glacier]

lol I like doing this too

[small glen]

never happened

[gritty salmon]

No not really
Even war flails have spikes

[sleek gull]

Unless you were ok with shelling out $20 to try the version that you can modify to your needs, then I agree, it may not be for you.

[elder tendon]

Lmao.

I suppose you were there at the time?

[small glen]

i wasn't, but you were?

[elder tendon]

This discord bounces back and forth to both extremes way too much.

[spiral girder]

Got any recommendations of games that are free?

[gritty salmon]

Pole hammers have a big side spike and always have a big long spike at the top

[frosty crescent]

made a little baron movie:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l6FY1ogb-Dk

[soft drift]

but your unwillingness to make your own compromises is not a fault of the devs

like

[fallen glacier]

lucerne

[soft drift]

its really not the games fault

[elder tendon]

No, but I'm not trying to make such a broad, sweeping claim as to say that a blunt weapon has never knocked out a knight in armour. That's ridiculous.

[spiral girder]

My index fingers are already compromised/amputated.

[sleek gull]

None that immediately come to mind. But I play a bunch of games that are in the $5-$10 range.

[gritty salmon]

??

[soft drift]

you're playing the demo game that uses the same movement keys as almost any other game

[spiral girder]

Okay then. Bye to everyone in the discord.

[sleek gull]

Take care man!

[supple ember]

Bye brother!

[feral moon]

Was bro trying to say his fingers were amputated?

[small glen]

pollaxes had a lot of ways to get someone to fall to the floor, and you're referring to the Bec De Faucon which was still considered blunt

[wheat rock]

thanks for joining just to say how much you dislike the game for using the same keybinds as otherss but somehow its still ableist somehow

[gritty salmon]

Not arguing against that but like eh it’s blunt in the same way a sword is effectively blunt against tons of armors

[soft drift]

the demo version of the game too

i just

i dont understand

i do but i dont

[elder tendon]

also, let's not ignore the fact that knights often did not don every single piece of their armour in battle.

[small glen]

Because we rly don't have proof it did

[gritty salmon]

Mainly leg armor

[elder tendon]

It happens in modern buhurt where people have twice as much padding than actual medieval armour had.

[small glen]

"Modern Buhurt"

be quiet now

your speaking rights are forbidden

[elder tendon]

What?

[spiral girder]

Idk how ragdoll physics = WASD controls, but okay then. Have fun!

[soft osprey]

Seems so unfortunately

[elder tendon]

Bro doesn't have an argument so he just tells me I'm not allowed to speak anymore

I'll consider that a win

[wheat rock]

there is proof for 2 things though:

• getting hit in the head hard enough does knock you out
• helmets dont 100% stop you from being damaged

[buoyant ravine]

Rate this death sound I made

[gritty salmon]

He’s making fun of you saying modern buhurt

[elder tendon]

Yeah, but modern buhurt tournaments are a thing.

[gritty salmon]

In halfsword its overturned

[small glen]

Mentioning modern buhurt as a example for Historical medieval fighting is hilarious

[soft osprey]

Idk why yall ever actually engage this stuff in the first place but im just a broken record now. If someone comes in and says they don’t like the game, nothing you say will change that. Nothing. Dont try to convince someone to feel the same way as you, it won’t work

[buoyant ravine]

heres the full sound

[soft osprey]

Stop engaging it every single time

Just ignore it

[wheat rock]

100% but also hes making a sweeping generilisation that it didnt happen once in history

[elder tendon]

No, the point I was making is that people wearing MORE padded armor get knocked out by blunt force all the time.

[gritty salmon]

Can’t really stop knockouts

[elder tendon]

That's my entire point.

[fallen glacier]

I don't think it's a stretch to assume a blunt weapon has knocked a fully armored person unconscious back then, since blunt weapons were the meta until guns became prevalent. It's speculation of course, sure, since apparently we have no actual recording of it I guess (I don't know I haven't looked into it) but if I was betting, I'd say it happened.

[elder tendon]

He's claiming that a knight has never been knocked out by blunt force in all of history.

[soft osprey]

5/10 realistically

[soft drift]

BEEHIVE META

[gritty salmon]

“Blunt force is the meta” ?

[fallen glacier]

yeah

[small glen]

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/WsTh2c82hV0

[wheat rock]

@small glen if youre so self assured in the fact that you cant knock a knight out in one hit, don a suit of armor and let me hit you as hard as possible with a polearm

[dapper tulip]

what comes after baron's standart in rewards ?

[elder tendon]

This is a sword. That is not really intended to be a blunt weapon.

[kindred latch]

Great bascinet would like a word with you

[fallen glacier]

is that not right? I could be wrong, I apologize if so. From what I understand, once plate armor became more widely available and prevalent, usage of swords went down in favor of maces and such

[supple ember]

They did, but not always. One of my favorite representations is this video.
In this one even though they weren’t real poleaxes, it was still enough concussive damage to knock him out.
https://youtu.be/SNpHMKwjIdM?si=06Wn6L42tuH14k_P

[soft osprey]

No sir we certainly don’t have footage from the 1400’s 😔

[gritty salmon]

Maces are ineffective on foot and effective on horse

[buoyant ravine]

heres death sound 2

[gritty salmon]

Also no swords are great in dueling (even knight to knight) and are mainly sidearms anyway

[fallen glacier]

true. I don't mean just maces though, blunt weapons in general, to clarify

[elder tendon]

You're ignoring all the other weapons that were specifically designed to do as much damage to armour and the person wearing it as possible.

[dapper tulip]

wasnt maces made for infantry ?

[gritty salmon]

Anything else isn’t really a blunt weapon it is just made a blunt weapon via the fact armor existed

[gritty salmon]

I’m talking about plate really

[small glen]

What is Mordschlag?

[gritty salmon]

Mail it makes sense

[delicate ibex]

No, cavalry weapon.

[small glen]

@boreal path You still have that good chainmail video? Sorry to bother

[tight horizon]

Woah is that in the early access

[gritty salmon]

Trying to make a sword a blunt weapon

[kindred latch]

I mean most weapons were originally seeing as we were beefing long before horses were domesticated

[gritty salmon]

And it works

[delicate ibex]

It's why maces became symbols of authority, because knights/nobility used them on horseback

[gritty salmon]

Kinda

[elder tendon]

This is ONE specific technique with ONE specific weapon.

[ruby glade]

Mordhau if you want to come off as extra knowledgeable (Or German)

[hollow vessel]

Why can’t I put on my spaulders

[wheat rock]

I like how he hasnt actually made any points other than "you werent there" and sellsword arts demonstrating how the weapon that wasnt used to knock out knights was infact not used to knock out knights

[gritty salmon]

The goal isn’t to knockout a knight it’s to disorient as said in the video

[dapper tulip]

ohhhh i thought it was for infantry so they could have a chance against heavily armored troops

[gritty salmon]

Polearms

[small glen]

do you have like, any idea how deadly pommels are?

[elder tendon]

When in armour? Not very.

[gritty salmon]

Do you like have any idea how much more effective polearms are compared to swords

[dapper tulip]

ahhhh

[wheat rock]

against a knight? yeah not at all

[hidden schooner]

oh boy

[small glen]

you telling this to someone who did Hema and used a spear 😭

[gritty salmon]

Spears 😭

[elder tendon]

You're trying to conflate the effectiveness (or lack thereof) of this particular sword technique against a knight in full armour to all blunt weapons, lol.

[small glen]

Yeah, the shaft of a spear hurts. It can break your shins, with a lot of force unless its controlled.

but it won't knock you out with full harness

[dapper tulip]

does anyone have list for the baron's drops, like what first and what last

[tender quest]

shaft made from the rubber tree

boing

[elder tendon]

If you were only speaking specifically about that technique, then yes, I would agree it's not likely to knock someone out who is in full armour.

[hidden schooner]

https://tenor.com/view/xqc-what-xqc-what-xqc-search-gif-25343378

[still sigil]

what is the final rank

[tender quest]

arguing on discord

[alpine shoal]

I think the first is breastplate and last is full set

[small glen]

The Pollaxe had so much configurations, for the purpose of guess what? MAKING A KNIGHT A FALL

if you hit a knight over the head with a mace, it might daze him, not fucking throw him to the floor knocked out

[dapper tulip]

...

[elder tendon]

This would depend heavily on the quality and configuration of the armour and the weapon itself.

[gritty salmon]

Yes and if it wasn’t rubber or some kind of less hard substance then smacking the front end onto them would hurt

But I’m not even talking about spears I’m talking about poleaxes and polehammers mainly

Also the dequietum guy showed off a video of him knocking out a dude with a great helm with a mace. Knockouts are mainly about making the head move fast enough for the brain to smack into the skull

[small glen]

Blunt weapons are so over blown, manuscripts and examples of either stripping a knight of armor, stabbing his groin in a wrestle or neck, because how? They used a blunt weapon to make him fall to wrestle the man and kill him with a rondel or half sword into his groin

[kindred latch]

Depends on the helmet, if he’s wearing a sallet a mace could knock him out or break his neck, a great bascinet would probably result in a pretty bad headache

[elder tendon]

It is certainly possible to knock someone out in armour. There are plenty of videos of it happening with HEMA practitioners who wear full armour and do full-contact sparring.

[small glen]

what the bascinet glaze 😭

[wheat rock]

what is your actual argument here? that helmets completely negate blunt damage to the point someone cant get knocked out?

[gritty salmon]

They are overblown but it is not impossible to knockout a guy in a helmet in the slightest

[elder tendon]

Yes, that is his point as far as I can tell.

[kindred latch]

Great bascinets sit separately of the head, meaning force on it doesn’t directly affect the head underneath

[gritty salmon]

Just because it’s overblown doesn’t mean it’s worthless

[supple ember]

https://youtu.be/FwWOoHZGrnI?si=wbFY87UaCqfB0BXr

true

[small glen]

this fucking guy and his ego

[supple ember]

Me?

[small glen]

i love his choreographs

but his armor are poor repos

and he praises himself as THE ARMOR guy

[hidden schooner]

Im not too sure hes very historical with his armour

at all

[small glen]

No, i love u. (Not rly like that)

[supple ember]

What are you talking about?

[solar nest]

yall where is pit, narrow corridors, and horde?

[supple ember]

He’s not

[hidden schooner]

I know

[gritty salmon]

He’s not trying to get brain damage

[soft osprey]

In the trailer

[gritty salmon]

He’s using more quality metals and stuff

[kindred latch]

It’s literally either bolted or strapped to the chest to prevent force to the skull

[solar nest]

i see.

[gritty salmon]

The game is missing content as far as I can tell

[solar nest]

https://tenor.com/view/gorilla-thinking-gif-gif-24818547

[warm void]

IMO, having 4 height and 3 weight is a nice big build, that doesnt feel too bulky.

[hidden schooner]

https://tenor.com/view/all-honest-reaction-my-honest-reaction-cat-gif-9185819642498888374

[maiden umbra]

sweet mother of pearl

[static spoke]

how i can make my willie like this

[soft osprey]

I wouldn’t call it missing, more like, not yet added

[supple ember]

I’m just saying it’s the closest thing we have to an actual video demonstration on what it’s like to get hit with a mace in the face wearing full plate

[warm void]

do 100 pushups, 100 sit ups, and a 10 km run

[quiet solstice]

can I take the golden guy's armor?

[warm void]

but dm me if you want to learn

[soft osprey]

Don’t forget the 100 squats

[small glen]

Mordschlag can correct me if I am wrong: bascinets had a big issue when it came it blunts and how it corelated with them later receiving not so fun head injuries

same game with the great helm, sallets were designed to make the impact spread and not focus on one direct location

[warm void]

genuinely forgot that lmao

[static spoke]

is there trainer for ea

[elder tendon]

Yeah, I've seen that Dequitem video. I think it's a bit of a "best case scenario" for him in the way the test and his armour is set up. I'm pretty skeptical that those blows are 80% power as well just because I'm sure that dude didn't want to actually inflict harm on the guy.

[small glen]

Sallets weren't 100% better, but they were designed to make the impact move across and not stick in one area

[hidden schooner]

I have no sources about that atm

[gritty salmon]

Top left

[quiet solstice]

or am i trying for nothing

[warm void]

yea, I heard that the half sword enhancer has been adapted for the EA

try that

[static spoke]

oh ok

[fallen glacier]

It would be neat if someone would put a historically accurate plate helmet on one of those realistic ballistic dummy heads and hit it really hard with a historically accurate mace or some such and see what kind of damage it does, if any

[solar nest]

im going undercover as a peasant guys

[kindred latch]

Every time you beat him you get one of the pieces

[solar nest]

also is the max muscle mass 80 kgs or 93kgs

[rigid lodge]

Whoever showed the 707g longsword build you have my thanks, shit is insane

[fallen glacier]

a peasant with an arming doublet??

[quiet solstice]

afteer the round or if I pull it off?

[gritty salmon]

Yeah just grab his weapons

[soft osprey]

93

[kindred latch]

After the round

[quiet solstice]

idk I remember my guy saying 91kg but after a few rounds it said 79 lol

[quiet solstice]

okay ty

[kindred latch]

Exit the inventory then reenter it

[elder tendon]

my muscle mass keeps changing every time i launch the game

it was up to 94kg but now its back down to 80.

[gritty salmon]

He not being fed

[small glen]

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/PSE4BLJh1ao?feature=share

[elder tendon]

unless it's factoring in the weight of the weapons?

[supple ember]

Well yeah he’s not trying to KILL his friend lmao. That’s why he stabs beside the neck with his rondel dagger. His fights aren’t choreographed though, they literally do like 5-10 fights and post the best 1 or two, both are completely different.

[small glen]

Robinswords my beloved

[quiet solstice]

okay so

[elder tendon]

Yeah I know that, I've watched a lot of his content

[quiet solstice]

get back to lord tournament over and over again until you get the full rmor?

then what

[warm void]

gotta say, I love the shitter detail.

[hidden schooner]

what does this have to do with bascinets specifically

[static spoke]

they gonna fix forest map ?

[fallen glacier]

shit drain

[gritty salmon]

Then download mods or halfsword enhancer specifically, play abyss, go to trader to get your gear into free mode

Etc

And wait for the updates to release new content because there is stuff missing from the trailer and some armor slots you can’t fill out

[small glen]

nothing, just a good video on plate

[hidden schooner]

gotcha

yeah its all true

[gritty salmon]

My theory is the hood option is a arming cap or some kind of padding under the helmet

I think it’s called an arming cap

[hidden schooner]

fringed hood*

[buoyant ravine]

heres my sounds in wav

[covert forge]

anyone know if a tabard actually does anything in game

[novel merlin]

I want a feature where you can pay your mercenary more and he'll fight harder (less likely to give up)

[hidden schooner]

fashion

[elder tendon]

increases drip

[gritty salmon]

Drip and minimal protection

In real life I think it was also to obscure armor weaknesses and gaps but the npcs already know / don’t care

[small glen]

for the record: Someone here used Modern Buhurt as a example of blunt vs armor

[elder tendon]

lol

[hidden schooner]

yikes

wtf

[elder tendon]

I said that people in modern buhurt get knocked out and they have more helmet padding than actual historical helmets

That's all I said

[gritty salmon]

For the record: he compared that people still get knocked out in modern buhurt a and they have more padding

Yeah

[novel merlin]

I don't wear pants because my willy scares them

[hidden schooner]

where did you read this

[elder tendon]

I have watched it happen lol

[untold wagon]

what do yall think of this image

[small glen]

You do modern buhurt?

[gritty salmon]

Watches it probably

[buoyant ravine]

https://tenor.com/view/family-guy-peter-griffin-bathroom-run-hurry-gif-15063908

[fallen glacier]

true, or a coif. We see one of the mercenaries wearing one it looks like. I think coif/arming cap is interchangeable

[small glen]

Both are equally as bad ngl

[elder tendon]

No, there are tons of videos online of buhurt tournaments.

You still haven't ACTUALLY addressed my point.

[dapper tulip]

if i leave durning abyss after death do i lose my character ?

[elder tendon]

You're just acting like a prick lol

[small glen]

Which is

[fallen glacier]

if you have to, alt f4 out

[static spoke]

how i can apply save file

[fallen glacier]

if you just quit out normally it may kill you

[gritty salmon]

Copy save file
And rename it

[hollow vessel]

Why can’t I equip my vanbrace

[gritty salmon]

And put it somewhere else

[elder tendon]

I'm not wasting my breath anymore.

I've explained it no less than four times now.

[small glen]

I waited 5 seconds for this message to send, wasting meh time smh

[tepid osprey]

buhurt isnt a very good example to use in referencing armor accuracy

[fallen glacier]

ye true. @dapper tulip there's instructions to back up your save and what not in the 2nd pin

[elder tendon]

I was EXPLICITLY SAYING that the armour isn't historically accurate.

[solar nest]

why does this game want me to go into the forest so bad

[elder tendon]

No one can read, apparently.

[tepid osprey]

I joined 0.002 seconds ago and my reenactor senses smelled blood (buhurt) in the water

[gritty salmon]

More padded people get knocked out
They take less blunt damage then knigjts would
Knights would get knocked out in history

That’s just a lie bro

[buoyant ravine]

because theres gonna be a sequel to Sons Of The Forest

[small glen]

There is like no source for this besides your ass

[tepid osprey]

As any good man on the internet i leap into any middle conversation i see to cause the most damage possible

[gritty salmon]

No source for this

It’s simple logic??

[distant dawn]

[gritty salmon]

What

[earnest perch]

does the game tell you if you've gotten all of the baron's armor

[buoyant ravine]

https://tenor.com/view/mr-beast-good-boy-mr-beast-good-boy-gif-18819841

[small glen]

What logic is there?! 😭

[gritty salmon]

“Barons set acquired

[tepid osprey]

[hidden schooner]

hes here

[tepid osprey]

hi

[gritty salmon]

People that take less blunt damage get knocked out
Why would people who would be taking more damage not get knocked out and never get knocked out???

[fallen glacier]

is it really that much of a stretch to assume someone in platemail got knocked unconscious from a blunt weapon? I get needing evidence and all, that's fair. But I mean in this case, I don't think it's that big of a deal

[tepid osprey]

why would the when the when the when 😂

[buoyant ravine]

https://tenor.com/view/chappellesshow-davechappelle-chappelles-tyrone-tyronebiggums-gif-1834035011422348633

[solar nest]

his last words were "wretch"

[small glen]

Because of the fact we have more evidence that it didn't compare to it did (which is rly nothing)

[elder tendon]

I will say it one more time: People practicing modern buhurt wearing helmets that are significantly more padded than real historical helmets can and do get knocked out from blunt weapons hitting them in the head. I did not once try to say that modern buhurt is accurate to historical combat or armour design but that hasn't stopped people from instantly getting butthurt (buhurt butthurt haha) about it.

[tepid osprey]

but in general padded armor is generally okay but overpadding can actually be detrimental to protection

[warm void]

Willie doing the pose fr fr

[fallen glacier]

I see. Where is the evidence that it didn't? I'm not too familiar I apologize

[tepid osprey]

blunt weaponry is a complex topic that isnt answered simply as “le armor destroyer” or “useless against armor!!” even though it does tend towards the latter as armor gets better in construction

[autumn cloud]

the average medieval experts in this chat never interacts in #references♥_1450-1470 .. curious

[hidden schooner]

schreibers are here

[tepid osprey]

I just got here kev 😭

[elder tendon]

Agreed.

[echo pawn]

"Though even though we strike him with a club or axe... this inflicts little to no harm... for against similar we can never apply great blows... which he who is entirely in white armor cares nothing for"

-Pietro Monte

[autumn cloud]

i'm not talking about you budie

[hidden schooner]

give this man a schreiber

[tepid osprey]

[small glen]

People use the "IT COULD'VE!" as a point when it comes to rly any historical conversation and it drives me fucking insane

"A knight could've hit the nae nae after he killed someone!", anything can happen because of the fabled COULD'VE HAPPENED statement

[twilit escarp]

tournament grade armour have always been more protective than battlefield equipment. Not sure if that was his point originally, but it definitely is the case.

modern armour is also made of higher grade steel and the actual sets you'd want to use in something like buhurt (not the cheap replicas made as display pieces) are of a much higher material quality than contemporary pieces. Weapons in buhurt tourneys aren't battlefield weapons either. War picks (as one example) are generally not allowed in Buhurt tourneys because they can kill people in full plate. It's a combative sport, not an actual battlefield.

Bouts are generally ended if fighters are in any real danger of loss of life.

[warm void]

wtf is the grim reaper

[echo pawn]

hello steven seagal

[terse cloak]

these damn champions

[ruby glade]

I actually have solid proof that Knights would hit the Nae Nae after jousting tournaments, which I will provide for you for money

[tepid osprey]

that said maces fall off hard once solid armor gets introduced and we see it more as a horseback weapon. The Burgundian ordinnance only lists maces as a sidearm for light cavalry if I remember correctly, and should be right smack dab in the era half sword wants to aesthetically portray

[gritty salmon]

What we literally just gave you an example of how better protected people (padding) still get knocked out

[echo pawn]

the sheer amount of sources (fencing manuals) not depicting maces and rather stabbing gaps heavily implies they were not ideal at all

[feral moon]

Y'all should kiss already smh

[gritty salmon]

Maces were shit yeah they were horseback I think

[elder tendon]

Dunning-Kruger effect out in full force today.

[echo pawn]

also pietro monte straight up says it is not ideal "he who is in white armor cares nothing for"

[tepid osprey]

There is a source I remember that has German knights armed with maces get fucking obliterated by French knights with estocs

[gritty salmon]

We are talking about like blunt in general

[autumn cloud]

for gendarmes (heavy) but said to be attached at the saddle

[tepid osprey]

[jovial mirage]

does anyone know what the "Thrust" keybind does

[tepid osprey]

Ty for the correction

Been a while since I’ve read it

[warm void]

just broke someones neck with one hit

[neon dome]

thrusts

[gritty salmon]

Bro

[ruby glade]

Makes you do stabby instead of slashy when youre holding it and swinging

[small glen]

If you want to argue this so badly, the Schriebers are here

[earnest perch]

is there anything you can unlock after that

[gritty salmon]

Custom weapons ig

[warm void]

I mean, i suppose it made sense

[tepid osprey]

Anyways I have to go back to work

[small glen]

I did my part and try to relay that Maces were just for disorienting against plate

[tepid osprey]

[small glen]

HEY

[hidden schooner]

[jovial mirage]

there are two keybinds, one is "Thrust mode" which is bound by default to alt, then there is "Thrust" which is bound to 2x Right Click which does nothing

[gritty salmon]

Are we arguing that?

[small glen]

Don't say that, THERE JOBLESS HERE!

[fallen glacier]

I think this is reductio ad absurdum in this case. I posit a reasonable hypothetical, you're blowing it out of proportion. Yeah, sure, a knight could have hit the nae nae. But what's more likely, him doing that or getting knocked out by blunt trauma in a fight? I hope you can see the distinction

[tepid osprey]

[gritty salmon]

You said that no knight had ever gotten knocked out in history

[tepid osprey]

wwhar

[hidden schooner]

is best emote here

[gritty salmon]

We aren’t talking about if maces are effective on foot or whatever

[warm void]

ultra high end?

[solar nest]

son 😭

[warm void]

that monitor is amazing tho

[small glen]

Because we don't have a example of this, you are also changing up words.

The argument was a knight could've been one shotted

[hidden schooner]

this one

[autumn cloud]

one handed maces, on foot, just cannot developp enough force to RELIABLY knock out cold your opponent, it may happen, but during the age of advanced plate harnesses you kinda do need more, be it in techniques or force multiplier (a horse)

[small glen]

No knight in good armory is getting one tapped by a mace 😭

[gritty salmon]

Should have said that instead of knocked out

[elder tendon]

#halfsword-chat-⚔ message

[gritty salmon]

?

[small glen]

"One hit"

[fallen glacier]

Are you moving the goal post now?

[solar nest]

i found the original guy and the comments are fucking frying me bro

[autumn cloud]

It did happen, occasionally, because everything can happen

[analog stream]

A pollaxe can? If you use the hammer side like reliably

[small glen]

IT COULD'VE HAPPENED

[jovial mirage]

does anyone know the difference between these two keybinds?

there are two keybinds, one is "Thrust mode" which is bound by default to alt, then there is "Thrust" which is bound to 2x Right Click which does nothing

[elder tendon]

Bro is cooked

[terse cloak]

i just knocked myself out

[hidden schooner]

[terse cloak]

theres a door in slums

that looks like its open

[autumn cloud]

it did, there's sources of it.
just like there's sources saying that a mace isn't a reliable weapon to be used on foot against an armored opponent

[elder tendon]

We were never arguing one-handed maces specifically btw

[gritty salmon]

Yes true I wasn’t arguing against that but aight

[wary nebula]

that door is such a scam

[elder tendon]

That was something that somehow got hallucinated into the discussion

[solar nest]

"nothing your floppy drive cant handle"
"yeah crashing on my high end voodoo 5 too"
'Bro I'm playing it with my Ultra High End Cassette Player Spectrum ZX and it runs flawlessly."
"Your pc hasn’t been ultra high end since maybe 2018 pal"

[terse cloak]

i got a flail tho! the wooden one

[small glen]

We need a source! Send it!!!

[boreal path]

what chainmail video

[tepid osprey]

On foot a mace or blunt weapon is more or less a poor choice, not really barring equipment failure (poor quality or bad craftsmanship exists!) but it is possible that a mace can get lucky and daze an opponent with a strike at the head.

It’s just not as good as just using a polearm or a sword wirh the strength of both arms

[small glen]

You never even mentioned what mace to begin with

[elder tendon]

That's exactly my point

[terse cloak]

yeah sure buddy you get 140fps at 4k on a 1050

[small glen]

The one where he puts it over his hand and smacks it

[solar nest]

https://tenor.com/view/curious-very-curious-magnifying-glass-looking-peeking-gif-3027926178787907205

[elder tendon]

I was speaking on blunt force in general.

[tender quest]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1124550722692853770/1470900622269349888/Video_Project_733423774.mp4?ex=698cfa74&is=698ba8f4&hm=b770f5a36557c63121a20676818fcb452ffe2f1dc404ad3669de05ea193634da&

[terse cloak]

this guy probably plays dwarf fortress and balatro exclusively

[echo pawn]

well there is this quote

"In this battle a French Captain turned to face me because I killed two of his brothers on the battlefield, and we fought in the middle of the two camps armed as men at arms with some iron maces that I brought out. The Frenchman, seeing the weight of them, threw his to the ground, being unable to wield it well, and seized hold of an estoc and lunged at me, thinking that I would not be able to wield the mace either. He stabbed me through the tasset and wounded me, and I then struck him on the armet with the mace and I sank it into his head, from which he fell down dead."
Diego García de Paredes

[twilit escarp]

That's a really, really dumb statement to make.

People have literally died from being hit on the back of the head with fucking spoons dude, a knight could absolutely be on tapped with a mace.

[tepid osprey]

Blunt weapons being effective against armor is something that has been distorted by pop culture and media in general and then overcorrected and tossed back and forth a dozen times

[tender quest]

dwarf fortress is one of the games of all time

[gritty salmon]

This is what is happening now

He thinks blunt force isn’t enough to knock out somebody

[elder tendon]

He said that no one in armour has ever been "one hit."

[tepid osprey]

I’m not on your side vro 💔

[analog stream]

Damn those must be some heavy maces

[idle crane]

I have never once seen that emoji.

[analog stream]

For the guy to simply go 'nuh uh'

[small glen]

Do we even know what mace it is? Sinking makes it sound like it was spiked

[echo pawn]

well it is one account, could be exaggerated, could also be sheer luck

[jovial mirage]

does anyone know the difference between these two keybinds?

there are two keybinds, one is "Thrust mode" which is bound by default to alt, then there is "Thrust" which is bound to 2x Right Click which does nothing

[tepid osprey]

There is no one perfect answer when it comes to it. Much like real life. Especially in combat

[fallen glacier]

2x right click is a typo, it's 2x left click

[tepid osprey]

And half sword is a game first and foremost so liberties are taken

[autumn cloud]

"BRO JUST HIT THEM ON THE HEAD SQUARE ON IT WOULD KNOCK THEM OUT COLD IF YOU HAVE THE EXACT PERFECT CONDITIONS"

[elder tendon]

Yes. Of course. But to say that no one wearing armour has ever been disabled, knocked out, or taken out of a fight in "one hit" in all of history is absurd.

[terse cloak]

finally got off beggar

[tepid osprey]

When I go to hit the armed and trained knight in the head but he just stabs my armpit

[autumn cloud]

https://tenor.com/view/it-never-happened-jonathan-frakes-commander-riker-gif-952328961673970586

[small glen]

We also need to add: No knight is going to stay still either

[autumn cloud]

(troll)

[boreal path]

this sounds to me like a case where the guy hit him and thought “oh i win” not expecting a full force retaliation from the opponent lol

i’m in the camp that maces are still lethal it just requires a lot of force and very good circumstances against your opponent

[jovial mirage]

in the keybinds menu it specifically says RMB 2x, but it still does nothing

[tepid osprey]

Arguing at that point is semantics and not worth the breath to continue. Gotta pick and choose some battles

[jovial mirage]

yuo cant even edit the keybind

[fallen glacier]

I'm pretty sure it is, since RMBx2 doesn't put you in thrust stance. It's LMBx2 that does that

[jovial mirage]

is it just a remnant?

[elder tendon]

Very true.

[echo pawn]

yeah it does

[fallen glacier]

I know. Try LMBx2, that puts you in thrust. Even the demo had this same typo

[tepid osprey]

Pretty much

[gritty salmon]

I swear you take all of your knowledge from that one mordschlag video

[boreal path]

not on hand . try using the discord search if you remember what you replied to it

[echo pawn]

it's one instance but i do think it's enough to say they can be very lethal if you are lucky

[twilit escarp]

blunt weapons aren't meant to kill people in armour, they're meant to disorient and force submission, or put opponents in a position where they can be effectively killed with a more precise strike from something like a dagger.

this does not mean, however, that someone wearing full plate could not be killed with a mace, combat is chaotic as all hell and the "perfect set of circumstances" that KevlarOnion describes are not as uncommon as one might think. There have absolutely been cases in which well armoured knights were killed in singular hits, and most of that just comes down to them being unlucky and the enemy being lucky.

that's literally just the way real fights go.

[jovial mirage]

thrust stance as in the same way if you were to hold alt?

[small glen]

That's deadass common knowledge

[fallen glacier]

It just quickly thrusts your weapon forwards, holding alt is a bit different I think

[tepid osprey]

https://tenor.com/view/tweaking-out-black-guy-tweaking-meme-gif-6022943353035016664

[native pasture]

I bugged the game lmao

[gritty salmon]

Blunt damage is not ineffective and is able to knock out knights. To argue a instant kill from a mace, that’s more insane, but we do have an account of it actually

[small glen]

You think the trained knight is going to just pose and let you smack the shit out of him?

[echo pawn]

it's not the aim and it's not what was considered a common tactic though

[gritty salmon]

True, but we aren’t arguing for that???

[native pasture]

I think I'm actually softlocked

[terse cloak]

got myself a cool ass messer and i just slayed two champions like they were peasants

[tight horizon]

Is ea optimized yet?

[gritty salmon]

“It wasn’t considered a common tactic” well the whole argument started because he claimed you couldn’t get knocked out in harness from a blunt force hit and now we have hallucinated things into the conversation

[echo pawn]

guhhh

[boreal path]

there’s certainly grounds to call it ineffective in practice

[livid cave]

does anyone know any way i can increase fps in the demo

[ruby glade]

me af

[elder tendon]

This is like several layers of misquotation happening now

In bad faith

[gritty salmon]

W

[tepid osprey]

more or less my opinion, but there are better options than maces.

like I said before, no one answer comfortably answers it. There’s enough variables to fill a book. We’ll have one manuscript detail a guy beating the shit out of a guy with a mace, his armor undamaged, and another where a man gets sent straight to the moon with a strike

[gritty salmon]

And this is not what we are talking about but yeah

This is indeed true

[weary lily]

I’m not seeing the faq anywhere so I’ll just ask, is there actually strength and stuff? Like I chose the lord preset, but is he weaker than a beggar to lord playthrough?

[boreal path]

i feel like theoretically a mace is an effective weapon but in practice it’s ineffective compared to any other weapon you would use before it

[analog stream]

In what situations did foot guys use maces? Like in actual war

[gritty salmon]

I mean I think it was a specialized Calvary weapon but otherwise idk

[tepid osprey]

the answer, realistically is that maces fell off to other roles that were better fit for other weapons because as armor got better maces just weren’t the best tool to use as armor was very good at dispersing force. When the best armor was a suit of maille, maces were *very * popular

[ruby glade]

I think we need two people to just man up and fight to the death in plate armor so we can know for sure (Not me though)

[tepid osprey]

Anyways back to work

[fallen glacier]

There is strength, it depends on your weight which afaik is only to determine strength. The max is 93kg, so if you reach 93kg you're the strongest you can be. Rank doesn't matter as far as I know

[autumn cloud]

Unironically, swords are better weapons to use in armored fightings than 1 handed maces I rest my case

[small glen]

The argument started here btw

[boreal path]

it was a specialized cavalry weapon that was still the second to last option you would go for in most cases

[twilit escarp]

Not the point. Combat is chaotic, especially field battles in the medieval periods where you have dozens of crests that all look vaguely similar, you don't need to "stand and pose" to be immediately struck dead in combat, that is literally just what happens. It's happened to some of the greatest fighters, generals and kings in history. People with dozens of highly trained body guards have been instantly killed for seemingly no other reason than the fact they were in the exact wrong time at the exact wrong place.

[small glen]

Death by ball stabbing

[echo pawn]

yeah plenty of cavalrymen still used swords/estocs

i think some ordonnances actually require those

[ruby glade]

I think physical armor usually has low magic resistance so your best bet is using a staff

[terse cloak]

thesse fucking things in the abyss

[elder tendon]

lmao

[fallen glacier]

incidentally exactly what Ned and Howland did to Arthur Dayne but I digress

[twilit escarp]

that first statement is wrong though, just because a thing has a purpose does not mean that it cannot exceed it in specific circumstances.

[boreal path]

"And you must hold your lance in your hand and placed in the pouch. And setting off at the gallop, placing your lance in the lance-rest, aim for the enemy’s belly, and once the lance is broken, you shall take hold of the estoc [estoque], which should be strapped onto the left-hand side of the front arçon, secured in place in such a way that when you draw it the scabbard does not come with it. And when fighting with these weapons, strike at the visor and the voids, that is, the belly and the armpits. After you have lost or broken the estoc, you shall take hold of the arming sword [espada de armas], which shall be girded on your left-hand side, and fighting until you have lost or broken it, you shall take hold of the hammer [martillo], which shall be attached to the right-hand side of the belt with its hook. Reaching down, you shall find it, and pulling upwards, the hook will release and, with hammer in hand, you shall do what you can with it until you lose it. And after it is lost, you shall reach behind you and draw the dagger from behind your back.

And you shall grapple with your enemy with all these weapons that you have at your disposal, striking and aiming at the voids, that is, the belly and the armpits, and at the visor, with the estoc or sword and with the hammer in hand, for by wounding the head and the hands he will inevitably surrender."

-Juan Quijada de Reayo

[native pasture]

Spiderman

[little verge]

They are my friends.

[tepid osprey]

drawn back like a fly i am…

I forgor to save it but it was popular among French knights in particular, some even used it in place of lances (though usually for boar hunting)

[autumn cloud]

I believe all of them call for a sword for every soldier, except maybe the french vougier ordonnance i believe (can't check the pdf rn)

[boreal path]

and for the "theoretically practical but in practice an impractical choice" position:

"Though even though we strike him with a **club **or axe... this inflicts little to no harm... for against similar we can never apply great blows... which he who is entirely in white armor cares nothing for"

-Pietro Monte

[elder tendon]

does a club not imply something different than a mace?

[tepid osprey]

"The arms of our grandfathers were the lance, the axe, the mace and the sword. The last we still use, but the rest are considered of little value partly because of armour of proof, which they neither pierce nor penetrate easily, and partly because of the invention of better pistols."

Saulx-Tavannes, Mémoires, 191–2

[soft pollen]

gays is there any rank after the lord rank after you get all the gold baron armor? will there be anything?

[slow spruce]

can i take the barons armour? it wont let me take it off of him

[snow gull]

game is fun but optimization is still aids on the slums map
has anyone experienced worse performance with more armour and stuff? I'm a little worried to keep playing for the game to be unplayable again once i unlock the cool stuff

[small glen]

Well yeah ofc, but the purpose is the overall idea of it's existence.

If you put your heart and soul into it, any weapon can be used to hurt someone in full harness.

[tepid osprey]

There was no standard naming for weaponry tbh

[elder tendon]

this is true

[mental kelp]

is this all stemming from talk about the effectiveness of blunt damage in EA?

[ruby glade]

When will they give us a blicky, I demand it

[sand kestrel]

is there a mod that replaces every modifier with submission

i genuinely hate knockdown with my life

[elder tendon]

that's more of a modern attempt at classification and even that is complicated and often contradictory

[tepid osprey]

An arquebus would be a fun weapon

[autumn cloud]

big brain : a club is a mace because masse = mass

[small glen]

Longer longsword

[slow spruce]

can i take the barons armour? it wont let me take it off of him

[elder tendon]

no you get one piece after you win each time

[slow spruce]

ok that you

[elder tendon]

i think there are 9 total pieces

[boreal path]

considering he's a professional soldier in the late 1400s i dont think he's talking about sticks

[ruby glade]

A mace is just a classist club

[boreal path]

holi peak

[elder tendon]

yeah probably not

[tepid osprey]

comically large arquebus in half sword NOW!!

[fallen glacier]

I imagine we'll get one eventually. One of the mercenaries in the tavern is holding one and a guy is shooting one on the cover art

[tepid osprey]

[autumn cloud]

give the english ptsd with massive artillery pieces fired directly at their faces hundred year war style

[fallen glacier]

noita is awesome

[tepid osprey]

It always astounds me how fast Europe actually adopted artillery doctrine

We always hear about handgonnes and war wagons

and not the dedicated siege artillery corps

[analog berry]

slenderman confirmed in HS

[autumn cloud]

la grande bombarde en question

[small glen]

You like artillery? Name every artillery military section.

[tepid osprey]

le banger

le banger 2

le banger… 3?

[boreal path]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1437180450962673861/1441243753900671167/shado.gif

[autumn cloud]

le banger XIII

[ruby glade]

What are the consequences to setting the mass of a Poleaxe handle as low as possible

[small glen]

Nothing

[autumn cloud]

it explodes

[small glen]

It's faster

[analog berry]

ignoring this?

[boreal path]

yes

[twilit escarp]

I think it comes down to scale really, when you have thousands of castles spanning an area like europe, and with every other man ruling one having no small ambition and a private army at their back, you're gonna start looking into ways to blow up other castles pretty damn fast.

[elder tendon]

it folds in on itself and becomes a singularity

[small glen]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/773572816091349022/1470592775761170613/Death.gif

[ruby glade]

Knowing this game I cant rule it out

[junior orchid]

[main hornet]

🔥

[small glen]

This is so funny, my lungs exploded now I am in a iron lung

[boreal path]

Say that again

[echo pawn]

markerflyer

[boreal path]

market plyers

[quasi oxide]

https://tenor.com/view/speed-ishowspeed-darren-watkins-speed-meme-speed-pray-gif-17944518743646793301

[analog berry]

dwarfs are in HS guys

[small glen]

You're heisenberg?

[small glen]

Are...

You playing half sword?!

Everyone laugh at this guy!!

[tender quest]

https://tenor.com/view/speech-bubble-discord-afrocord-pippycord-duce-gif-18105700748084691837

[analog berry]

[small glen]

That's a moth

[tender quest]

yes

[small glen]

IT'S NOT A BEE! THEREFORE YOU STATEMENT IS INVALID

[tepid osprey]

a good source to use on the mace discussion in future

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[quasi oxide]

uh huh

[tender quest]

you're a moth

[ruby glade]

Nothing will ever be as bold the copypasta that people would put in their profile description that goes like "⚠️⚠️⚠️ THIS USER IS A REGISTERED SEX OFFENDER ⚠️⚠️⚠️"

Wouldnt personally recommend it but it did objectively take a lot of confidence

[small glen]

Hell naw bruh

[analog berry]

r/truths head ahh

[main hornet]

surprised it links to the guidelines instead of a rickroll

or

https://tenor.com/view/ip-grabber-ip-grabber-thanos-gif-21846609

[barren moth]

i cannot see anything wit hthis

[tranquil lantern]

Did anyone where leather gloves or were those like banned, because we only have gauntlets or nothing😭

[fallen glacier]

true I want some leather gloves too

[barren moth]

unsuspecting human... im gonna eat your hand

15 times

[sly oriole]

what input template is best for a ps4 controller

[floral vale]

https://tenor.com/view/kanye-ye-haircut-barber-kanye-west-gif-3642931043953307478

[alpine wharf]

is there a gameplay difference between a rectangular grip vs a round grip?

at least for swords in this context

[feral moon]

Tf is this

[feral moon]

More surface area to bonk someone i suppose

Unrelated but smacking faces with the crossguard is rather effective

[barren moth]

i totally do

wait dogs in half sword???? /j

[molten galleon]

Hell yeah

[molten galleon]

No

But that would be sick

[barren moth]

fr

[fallen glacier]

we hear dogs barking in the evening but never see dem ;c

[agile lotus]

epic or no?

[low idol]

nice clip

how did u get to fist play only?

[agile lotus]

its the brawl game mode unfortunaly

is submission tho

[feral moon]

Animals are planned for half sword tho

[agile lotus]

half cow

[ruby glade]

I want to sword fight an emu

[lilac cape]

is there controller support

[agile lotus]

yes

but it isn't great imo

[lilac cape]

thinking of using parsec for multiplayer with my friend on a dif network

[serene wind]

Might be the first game I’ve ever used Radeon super resolution for (1080p>1440) and its making HS playable

Big recommend to try this for anybody with amd cards

[brave forge]

FOUGHT MY WAY THROUGH 53 SOULS TO SAVE MYSELF FROM DEATHS DOOR LETS GOOOOO

[agile lotus]

god of war kratos be like

[wise heart]

There should be some sort of tracker for the Abyss. I had 81 to kill, I feel like a killed a hundred of them already and they're still coming.

[agile lotus]

i think that is great actually

[brave forge]

RAHHHHHHH

[agile lotus]

but it should be something togglabe idk how to type it

[wise heart]

yeah, togglable sure

if anyone likes this that's fine

I start to feel as if it's bugged and I'm stuck there forever

[agile lotus]

https://tenor.com/view/true-truth-nuke-gif-16311706538314561226

[brave forge]

thought the great axe jank from the beta was gone but nah i got oneshot from i dont even know and died

[agile lotus]

wrist glitch?

[brave forge]

nah just its sudden killing potential

[agile lotus]

wdym?

[broken vortex]

my dumbass got absolutely wrecked from using this cauldron as a punching bag

it swung back and clobbered me

[brave forge]

like in the demo the great axe it felt like would just one shot you out of nowhere

[agile lotus]

lol, i broke my arms because i punched the legs of this thing, its actually unironicaly great to train dodges

[neon mauve]

guys what would yall consider as the best weapon?

so far im using billhook but idk if theres something better

[agile lotus]

poleaxe

very versatile

one shot kos

[neon mauve]

it can be crafted right?

[hollow vessel]

hows the drip

[agile lotus]

yes, and i think the best ones are the ones you make yourself

[neon mauve]

nice

[agile lotus]

because you can make them very light

[neon mauve]

ill try to get one

[agile lotus]

i just KNOW you stole that brown cloth lmao

its very cool outfit tho

[hollow vessel]

I stole all of it

[agile lotus]

romanian sword

[hollow vessel]

I got some mercenaries with gear that I am not supposed to have during the early stages. I let them get killed, and then I stole the loot of their dead bodies.

[neon mauve]

btw just wondering, how similar is poleaxe compared to a billhook?

like, is it longer or shorter?

[agile lotus]

its shorter

[neon mauve]

maybe like a flail?

[agile lotus]

but the billhook is harder to control because its very top heavy

[neon mauve]

ohh yeah thats one of my main issues

[agile lotus]

a little longer i think

[jade wadi]

Post yours live

[neon mauve]

whats the weapon?

so cool

[snow garnet]

What is the highest rank for a mercenary?

[acoustic zephyr]

the top heavy weapons like two hand maces are funny to play

[neon mauve]

oh ok

[agile lotus]

you can adjust the mass of the poleaxe when you forge it, i reccomend having a small head and 70% grip

it makes it very controlable

[agile lotus]

more so than the npcs poleaxes

[neon mauve]

thanks

[jade wadi]

Pollaxe

[agile lotus]

holy shit is john sword

[wise heart]

brotherrrr

[neon mauve]

ohh ok thanks

[jade wadi]

I crafted it and made it's tip ultra heavy and it's basically one-hit ko lol

[wise halo]

[agile lotus]

what do you guys thing of this single leg?

[feral moon]

Stupid games, stupid prizes lmao. But fr i love seeing the npcs just stupidly run into it.

[wise halo]

Willie torso just duplicated

[agile lotus]

the hydra willie

[limber kiln]

Great game, I probably just lost my almost complete save file thanks to crashing whilst making a weapon, as the progression mode now just launches into a black screen freezing.

[wise halo]

Yes

[lilac cape]

does anyone even know how to do the splitscreen

it dont even work it seems

[wise halo]

Yes

[lilac cape]

how

to do it over network

i heard someone did it

hes not on same wifi as me

[wise halo]

I did local

[lilac cape]

but his controller doesnt work for half sword

[wise halo]

DPI? YES

https://tenor.com/view/it's-over-9000-it's-over-9000-its-gif-6159356195145880706

[lean niche]

🚫 snrisn, that command is disabled in this channel.

[quasi gale]

how did ya get it to work cause i tried but it never registered the second players inputs

[jovial relic]

whats better vambrace or harness

[wise halo]

I just plugged in my controller and it worked

[quasi gale]

strange cause i only use controller and when i went to do the same the keyboard and mouse would work but only for player 1 same for the controller

was tryna figure out how to get it so both used the right player

[wise halo]

Yes keyboard mouse for player 1 and controller for player 2 that I did and it worked

[quasi gale]

hasnt worked for me spent a few hours tryna get it to but no luck

was the only thing i was looking forward to was the 1v1s with homies

[wise halo]

I did it locally not through remote control

[nocturne stratus]

actually sick

i need to try this

do you go in once you get that stun on the face?

[wise halo]

My blade hit Willie so hard in the face it fatal erroreddded

[nocturne stratus]

what a throw

[crimson compass]

I have started keeping a large golden goblet on my hip for riots

I pull it out and beat the peasants silly with it to show them how poor they are

[nocturne stratus]

real john halfsword

@sand herald what r ur thoughts on the updated physics in EA? better or worse than demo since all of ur content is in demo

[floral vale]

his hands got cold

[sand herald]

it's definitely been growing on me as i'm getting used to it. i naturally gravitate towards a jankier playstyle and the updated physics hasn't really stopped me from expressing it in new ways in the EA

[nocturne stratus]

in terms of like actually PLAYING the game i feel like its way better in ea

but like demo glitchy roundhouses and flying with willy will always be fun

[quasi gale]

see even local i tried it but no luck its just not registering the controller inputs for player 2 or even the mouse and keyboard

[wise halo]

Well I just pluged and played so I cannot help you on that

[quasi gale]

just will be patient til they fix everything else to go and fix the split screen

ye its no worries

not like it ruins the game just gotta wait a bit is all

[sand herald]

i can still do spin kicks and flicks, and although it's not as glitchy feeling like in the demo, they carry a new kind of weight on impact in EA which I like

[nocturne stratus]

oh i see wtf

didnt even think you could

bro the second kick is literally like a mach kick from dragon ball bro wtf

speed blitz'd instantly

you arent johnhalfsword for nothing

[floral vale]

shoes

https://tenor.com/view/duke-dennis-feels-the-aura-aura-duke-aura-farm-gif-12250327613032664645

[nocturne stratus]

air willy's

[nocturne stratus]

its funny you stop cause you know its just over

i gotta up my dpi man

these flicks are nasty

[sand herald]

it gets pretty crazy

[hollow vessel]

Can you not make your own shield

[elder tendon]

nah

[hollow vessel]

Bru

[elder tendon]

that would be cool tho

[elder tendon]

I would make mine something like an elm tree at sunset with maybe a shooting star above it

[chrome crescent]

blade sharpener feature

[waxen fulcrum]

Yo what’s the best muscle growth method

[lilac cape]

anyone know how to get half sword to work with parsec

[elder tendon]

spending stamina

[vestal hare]

Use the rondel dagger specifically, found in the cellar arena

[crimson compass]

Man I miss my good mercenary that lasted 40 days. The rest of these mercs are fucking chumps

[elder tendon]

can only do it with the rondel

[waxen fulcrum]

Holy un helpful

[crimson compass]

dawg that is literally the answer lol

[elder tendon]

whatever spends the most stamina will build muscle the fastest

[chrome crescent]

the more stamina wasted per match & the heavier your equipment makes it go p quick

[wise halo]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1124550722692853770/1470531359448633568/tenor.gif

[elder tendon]

you can build it in the training room too

[floral vale]

https://klipy.com/gifs/kanye-west-sleeping

[jovial relic]

does it make me stronger without armour?

like will i be faster

[elder tendon]

it will make heavier weapons easier to swing so kinda

and your punches and kicks will hit harder

[jovial relic]

so i cant punch like mike tyson

[elder tendon]

nah you can

[solar nest]

we need a way to obtain the barons physique ❤️‍🩹

[chrome crescent]

after u get to like 90kg u can lower ur weapons weight and swings become super fast

[elder tendon]

I've punched dudes and knocked then back like 10 ft

same with kicks

once you get to max muscle

[solar nest]

also i wish there was a way to edit currently made weapons

[elder tendon]

a lot easier to pick dudes up and throw them also

[solar nest]

spin kicking is possible with max muscles

[elder tendon]

i have a clip one sec

[solar nest]

hold shift, slow mo, spin while kicking

sorta like how you do it in the demo

[chrome crescent]

yeah we can edit armor but have to craft a whole new weapon

[solar nest]

without holding space

[sand herald]

💀

[solar nest]

i still find it weird how it says "craft armor" yet we can only edit the armor, not craft it ourselves

https://tenor.com/view/gorilla-thinking-gif-gif-24818547

[versed latch]

How’s half sword halfing recently?

[solar nest]

pretty good

what if half sword got a story mode

that would be cool

[chrome crescent]

im not surprised the devs spelt cleanse wrong in abyss

[jovial relic]

how do i take off the enemies pants it looks good and would look better on me

[elder tendon]

i picked the dude up and threw him at the end of this clip, max muscle def helps

[solar nest]

hold E or Q depending what arm you grabbed their leg with

doesnt work with the baron

you can only steal his weapons

[versed galleon]

Does this channel have any specific requirements or conditions for posting clips?

[warped apex]

no

[jovial relic]

k ty

[elder tendon]

level 2 or 3 i think

[crimson compass]

You gotta level up i think

[jovial relic]

do they have to be knocked out?

[solar nest]

hello john halfsword, are there any tournamnet legal techniques you have discovered in this new era of half sword?

[solar nest]

they either have to be on the ground and have given up or unconscious

[versed galleon]

Is this the type that increases based on chat activity or elapsed time?

[sand herald]

i've amassed quite a few clips since EA released yeah

[jovial relic]

makes sense

[elder tendon]

chat activity with a timer to prevent spam iirc

[serene wind]

Did the devs put this stuff in an unreachable spot to make people rage?

Bc its working

[solar nest]

sweet cant wait to see them

[chrome crescent]

they dont like testing things before releasing them

[solar nest]

i mean we're missing like 3 game modes so its probably unfinished with a way to get up there

[sand herald]

don't know if you've seen this before but here's an illegal one

[versed galleon]

Ty, I really should’ve joined this server way earlier lol

[jovial relic]

wow

[serene wind]

Theres loot in that crate and I grabbed a goblet by clipping my hand through it once

[solar nest]

holy 😭 i forgot you can still spin with weapons in the full game i gotta try that more

[serene wind]

but now theres a goblet + one niew piece of armor I dont have and i cant get it

[elder tendon]

iirc it's one message per minute counts towards the level, but it doesn't take long

[solar nest]

spinning with barons sword seems like a very illegal technique 🧐

[lilac cape]

anyone know why split screen is not working. we both are controlling same character

[elder tendon]

they call it the dick twist

[sand herald]

very much so

[limpid pebble]

its normal, they are from different countries

[solar nest]

how do you spin that fast dude i have max sens and havent even reached those speeds

[sand herald]

i've been playing at 26k DPI since the demo

[limpid pebble]

he is John Halfsword

[elder tendon]

ruined the game for me, literally unplayable

[limpid pebble]

you do not question it

[solar nest]

i see

[jovial relic]

is that the max for ur mouse or is it just the sweet spot

[elder tendon]

they call him the DPI Desperado

[sand herald]

max for my mouse lmao, if it went higher i definitely would've gone up

[limpid pebble]

yeah ngl 26k DPI is insane, my highest is at 6400 rn

[jovial relic]

mine also goes to 26k

[chrome crescent]

lol nah I wouldn't go that far just think that the whole testing was bull

[elder tendon]

meanwhile I'm out here playing everything on 400 dpi

[limpid pebble]

mine only goes up to 25,600 D:

[elder tendon]

yeah i was just memeing

[paper acorn]

https://tenor.com/view/ohio-shake-ishowspeed-shake-i-show-speed-ohio-shock-gif-7420210922366437129

[limpid pebble]

tbh you dont really need more than 800 dpi

[elder tendon]

i read something online like 15 years ago that said pro fps players use low dpi around 400 and that gave me a brain parasite so i only use 400 DPI now

[rocky aspen]

someone know if dark knigt armor set continues in game? I go against 4º round of varon and only I find some dark pieces

[elder tendon]

full set isn't obtainable currently without mods

[limpid pebble]

everyone handles their mouse differently, also back in the 2000s the highest standard dpi for gaming was 400

[rocky aspen]

Oh man

[jovial relic]

1000 is perfect for me

[elder tendon]

yeah it was just some shit that got implanted in my brain and has stuck ever since

[limpid pebble]

yeah 1000 is good

[elder tendon]

it really doesn't matter as long as it's what you're used to and enjoy

you can make any DPI work

[limpid pebble]

lol yeah I play on 400 dpi sometimes too, it gives you more accuracy because you move the mouse with your arm instead of just your wrist

[elder tendon]

yeah helps cut down on carpal tunnel risk as well I've heard

[jovial relic]

also higher dpi= more accurate mouse movements so for games like cs it matters more

[odd brook]

Any good tips for longsword fighting? My sword feels kinda floppy, also somtimes it looks like the blade is on the bare neck of someone but no blood comes out

[elder tendon]

it's the "low sensitivity, high DPI" vs "high sensitivity, low DPI" thing

[limpid pebble]

games like chivalry or mordhau benefit the most from high sens and dpi because the movement is easier

[lost ivy]

Is it just me or does when you swap hands you slice lower and more down and with default sword arm it goes more up? On a long sword?

[floral vale]

hurt people

[limpid pebble]

with high dpi in slasher games you can do things like drags that you otherwise cant do with lower sens or dpi

[elder tendon]

gotta still put some force on it to cut at times, it's possible other pieces of armor are preventing the cut.

[odd brook]

any way to rotate your charchter in inventory to see my back?

[wheat rock]

its ok we all experience some form of floppiness with our longswords at some point in our life

[limpid pebble]

if the sword is too floppy then the blade is way too heavy

you gotta balance it so it doesnt flop around when you hold it

[odd brook]

do you think its too long? ive got it at 1.6 but max length

[limpid pebble]

dont make it too light though, otherwise your sword will be doing papercuts (im joking lol its still reliable against unarmored foes, but wont be as effective with high tiers)

[wary nebula]

if it's 1.6 it's probably a center of mass issue

[limpid pebble]

yeah the length does effect the weight as well

[odd brook]

ive got the mass near the hilt

[limpid pebble]

we just need devs to release a greatsword

[odd brook]

oh that would be cool

i want more swords

[sand kestrel]

https://tenor.com/view/flightreacts-reaction-flight-reacts-flight-reacts-flightreacts-gif-14526489174047821058

[limpid pebble]

the greatsword will make it better for people that want longer blades

[jovial relic]

hey man i think you got him

[hollow vessel]

He made me mad

[floral vale]

https://tenor.com/view/lebron-james-gif-24653659

[wheat rock]

why are all his body parts still attached?

[chrome crescent]

blunt trauma

[dense token]

probably a mace

[limpid pebble]

bro savaged him

[hollow vessel]

Don’t have a cutting weapon

[vague goblet]

testicular damnation

[lucid fjord]

is it just me or is this game horribly optimised

im on a 4080 super and the variation in my frames is insane? In the menu I lag but in the game i dont

[limpid pebble]

its normal

gonna be fixed eventually

[wheat rock]

yea just you, everybody's been talking about how good the slums map runs

[chrome crescent]

Ass evisceration

[lucid fjord]

what settings are you running can i see

[limpid pebble]

also the game relies more on CPU than GPU

[jovial relic]

i have 7 fps

[sudden lava]

typical

[limpid pebble]

it has to process blood splatters, physics, momentum, etc

[lucid fjord]

I have a 7800x3d should be more than enough

[sudden lava]

i have 9800x3d still lags my shit when i cut people

[limpid pebble]

yeah its optimization issue, probably the blood

[jovial relic]

i have 14900k

[sudden lava]

💔

so it just sucks basically

[jovial relic]

but i have a 6600xt

[limpid pebble]

no

tbh it only happens when you are in burhurts

[sudden lava]

well yeah

[limpid pebble]

they fixed the major fps drops

[sudden lava]

i can do duels easy

[versed galleon]

With equipment like claws or cestus, even a brawler can become a fist fighter.

[limpid pebble]

i think it may have something to do with the active parry system

i could be wrong

[rocky kindle]

3200 dpi is the method

[sudden lava]

i think every copy of half sword is personalized

[wheat rock]

the latest patches actually made me lose performance somehow :(

[sudden lava]

was there a patch today

[limpid pebble]

I found that whenever enemies are too close to eachother the game starts to lag more, but once actors separate the performance increases dramatically

[rocky kindle]

nopers

[wise halo]

lumen 🙁

[limpid pebble]

its a combination of moving parts and possibly the blood and active parry being disrupted

[lost ivy]

13900k and zero lag

[sudden lava]

what modes do you play on

[wheat rock]

japanese garfield who dislikes lumen

[jovial relic]

14900k and shit tons of lag

[dense token]

lowkey waiting for the next update to play again i beat the baron 4 times

[neon mauve]

bruh i feel that the game detects you have a better weapon and puts npcs with better stuff too

[lucid fjord]

literally bought an unplayable fuckjing game

lol

[dense token]

?

[limpid pebble]

how laggy is it for you?

[neon mauve]

since i started using billhook they are getting it too

[dense token]

what happened

[wise halo]

what

[lucid fjord]

the game freezes

every time i try and screenshare it to my friends

im in vc w them rn

[limpid pebble]

thats probably why

[lucid fjord]

Im 100% not hardware bound

[limpid pebble]

how much ram you got

[lucid fjord]

32 ddr5

[limpid pebble]

oh damn

im struggling to understand how you are laggy, im running on a 1660ti with i5 and I average 56 fps in duels