Barnyard

[ashen merlin]

we got normals smoothing

😆

[rugged forum]

very good

Was that issue where props didn't show up fixed?

[ashen merlin]

i haven't noticed it in a while, so possibly

[rugged forum]

Still waiting for the sky to be fixed ☹️

although that'd most likely have to be a mod

[ashen merlin]

once replacements work, we can replace the entire sky system within remix

have it dynamically adjust

we'd need to mod the game to have an easy way to track the time in the game and the weather state, but once that's done it's pretty trivial to apply

example: #1099591203768504421 message

[edgy shard]

Time is really simple to track, there are both time (float) values and enum for day time stored in some class the name of which I don't remember

Probably AGameTimeFXManager

[ashen merlin]

https://docs.omniverse.nvidia.com/kit/docs/rtx_remix/latest/docs/components/index.html

we'd need a way to represent the time changes through something like meshes i believe

then we can use that to track time and weather states in remix. e.g. when it starts raining, have a new mesh spawn in. remix will see it and will change the particles system, fade in a new skybox, etc.

this can be done more accurately/precisely but it requires hooking into the game itself and i don't really want to do that

[ashen merlin]

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[ashen merlin]

these have a lot of objects marked for smooth normals

[ashen merlin]

made the sky look better

[ashen merlin]

@real idol 🙏 how much do i need to bribe u with to make a patch for Barnyard. terrain is rendered through a vertex shader and replacements are broken

i tried probably 3 or 4 times now to reverse engineer and patch it but i just keep falling short. this game has a fixed function mode, but it's incomplete. objects and characters tender but the majority of terrain does not

the game has been partially reverse engineered online so for someone experienced it shouldn't be too hard. i ended up wasting all of my copilot credits trying to fix it based on that, and probably 2-3 weeks of time trying to fix it myself prior to that

[real idol]

Is there any special blending going on with the terrain or something else?
Can certainly take a look

[ashen merlin]

i don't believe so

thank you so much

[real idol]

@ashen merlin got WorldShader to render with FF and proper normals. Early test for skinned stuff showed good results too with proper normals as well 👍

[ashen merlin]

👀 omg

https://tenor.com/view/shocked-cat-gif-10010192375921110151

[real idol]

struct WorldVertex
{
    Toshi::TVector3 Position;
    Toshi::TVector3 Normal;
    Toshi::TVector3 Color;
    Toshi::TVector2 UV;
};

Color is a full float3 unfortunately so color information will be lost. This would have to be packed into a D3DCOLOR and would be quite easy once the open source project matures

[edgy shard]

The color information is just shadows anyways

They haven't used it for actual colouring

[real idol]

Oh perfect, so nothing to worry about 🙏

[real idol]

Replacements also work

Was pulling my hair out because they wouldnt show up no matter what I did. Turned out the rtx.conf had Enhanced Meshes turned off 😂

Still need to handle Grass via FF which should be rather easy. Draw distance seems to be very low with objects just disappearing in the distance for some reason

[edgy shard]

there's a hard coded render distance

there's also a maximum number of drawn instances per frame (fences, grass tufts and other props) set to 240

I've just done decompiling that part of the code, so it should be possible to fix I guess

it's not as simple as just changing the int containing the limiting number, as the data is stored statically and changing it will change some offsets

[edgy shard]

the MAX_RENDERED_INSTANCES const
https://github.com/InfiniteC0re/OpenBarnyard/blob/main/OpenBarnyard/Source/Helpers/AInstanceManager.h

I think I can bypass that as a part of the modloader though...

[edgy shard]

done

forces the highest LOD for instances, increases render distance and the max number of drawn instances

[real idol]

Is the build with the latest commit actually running? I always crashed at some point when it tried to load a model

[edgy shard]

it works fine. make sure you don't have any older mods in the Mods folder, as I was changing the API and it might cause crashes

here's the latest version

just remove BYSpeedrunHelper.dll file if you don't need the helper

Alt+~ to open the debug menu

[real idol]

Oh well I was building and running OpenBarnyard.exe 😛
Does not seem to be related to the actual draw distance .. likely some kind of remix issue

[edgy shard]

Oh I see

That's terrain streaming

[real idol]

Is that using another vertex format by any chance? Or different transforms?

[edgy shard]

What do you mean? Terrain streaming unloads far world chunks based on your position, so that's just the world shader

[real idol]

Wait so this happens on the stock game as well?

I thought it was only happening with remix

[edgy shard]

Yeah, it happens there too

[real idol]

Ahhh thanks I thought I messed up something 😂

[ashen merlin]

it's so amazing seeing this happen finally

thank you xor 💖

and u too infinite for the work you've done reverse engieering it and everything

[real idol]

progress 😛

@edgy shard yea it helps a ton
How much time did you invest already? Rough estimate

[ashen merlin]

dude i spent literal weeks in cheat engine and ida trying to figure out how to disable just the CULLING, and you managed to do all of this in like 2 days or something

[real idol]

it's this check https://github.com/InfiniteC0re/OpenBarnyard/blob/43361a1df047d35a9dfd7ad818f02943bc0198c7/OpenBarnyard/Source/World/AWorldVIS.cpp#L238

[ashen merlin]

yeah so when we tried disabling distant culling last, it caused issues where geometry closer to the player was being culled instead?

that was a couple years ago now

#1106420949257044061 message

[real idol]

this might be a little overkill but I'll prob. implement a small distant check here

[edgy shard]

The project will turn 3 years this autumn iirc, but that's not what I'm putting all of my time into

[real idol]

That probably happens if there are too many objects hitting the max amount @core mentioned

[edgy shard]

Messing with the culling method (not sure if that's the one you adjust though) may lead to breaking some quests, as the game resets NPC positions and states only when they are not visible

[real idol]

Ah rip. I guess I'll have to add checks and not modify culling for npc's if that turns out to be an issue

[edgy shard]

There's a fun mode bat file in the archive I've sent. It removes dialogues, so you can check the story faster

[real idol]

I can't spend much time on this unfortunately so its up to kim to find out 😄

[real idol]

@ashen merlin https://github.com/xoxor4d/barnyard-rtx/releases/tag/0.8.0

let me know if it works 👍
please use the provided rtx.conf as I had to make some changes

[ashen merlin]

yus will do

tysm

it worksssss

[real idol]

noice! Let me know if you run into the culling issue core mentioned above

[ashen merlin]

yus will do

[ashen merlin]

btw it looks like normals are still broken on some things like bushes

[real idol]

yea not sure why the bushes look like that

[edgy shard]

no, that's the way models are compiled

they are actually broken

[real idol]

😄

[ashen merlin]

ah. well i can replace them now anyway

this is exciting lol

[edgy shard]

I think they made it intentionally to make lighting more adjustable

[ashen merlin]

did you manually place a fake sun? seems like there's a consistent light source

might be something i did with replacements at some point though. will mess with it

[real idol]

Nah that should be the actual sun of the game

[ashen merlin]

it doesn't seem to move at all even during the transition from day to night 🤔

[edgy shard]

If that's the sun of the game, its direction will always be fixed but can be different in other minigames

[ashen merlin]

interesting

hm

the sun in the skybox moves but this light does not move with it, to be clear. they are separate

[rugged forum]

What great news to wake up to

I guess I have to start doing all the lights

[compact niche]

https://tenor.com/view/persona-persona5-smt-gif-20281807

[rugged forum]

I've been waiting so long

[ashen merlin]

i'm going to start working on some replacements tonight

will place all lights in the main level + indoor areas and replace the emissive lighting

we'll need someone to help model new trees and stuff. can't just replace with free models because it wouldn't fit the art style

[rugged forum]

yeah, I might actually try to learn how to make textures because this is by far the game I have the most passion for and I don't think AI textures will cut it

[ashen merlin]

yeah i'm not using AI upscaling for this game

won't work right

at least not for the majority of textures

[ashen merlin]

my first experiment will be replacing the floor mesh with one without the fake shadows

[ashen merlin]

yeah sadly it doesn't move

[rugged forum]

Is the mod limited to 1080p?

Any plans to change the sky?

[ashen merlin]

i need to figure out how the sky works, then i do plan to at least update the textures

i'd also like to modify xor's patch so that i can monitor weather states directly and use remix logic to make it rain and stuff

rn i'm having trouble getting light replacements to show up at all

[rugged forum]

Well Night time rn doesn't look right compared to the original and also rain does need improvement

[ashen merlin]

all expected issues

[rugged forum]

Uhh somehow I got bill out at day??

[ashen merlin]

probably the issues with the anti culling patch

😔 means we'll have to disable that

light works. had to make a new project

newer toolkit must be borked or something

placing lights just randomly breaks all replacements

toolkit

barnyard

like wtf

finally

[rugged forum]

So far

[ashen merlin]

😓 why are we just doing the same thing separately

[rugged forum]

Golf stick looking funny

[ashen merlin]

is it okay with you if i work on the night barn? i have a lot of remastered assets specifically for it

or we can just have separate projects

[rugged forum]

Yeah I'm completely fine with that

[ashen merlin]

🤔 which one

[rugged forum]

the first one, You know anywhere I might be able to do lights?

[ashen merlin]

the various lamp posts around the main map

might only need to do it on a single instance of it

[rugged forum]

I tried to do the one in front of the save spot but It didn't seem to appear in game

[ashen merlin]

that's a weird bug that keeps happening

i had to delete and replace the light for it to show up. it took me 45 mins to place the 6 lights in the night barn because of this fucking bug

[rugged forum]

I just copied them and teleported them to my cursor

[real idol]

make sure to position lights on the very first instance .. not the second, not the 10th

[ashen merlin]

many of the meshes in this game are just one big mesh with all of the (what are supposed to be) instances combined into one

the weird issues were happening even with that

tbf i don't think this is a bug with your patch, just remix weirdness

[real idol]

but hashes are stable?

weird

[ashen merlin]

yup

i have to delete a light and save the mod again and it'll all magically show up

but if i add a light back it'll vanish again... unless i duplicate the light and then change the intensity slightly and delete the original. then it'll work again

it's really borked

[real idol]

do you have the game open next to the toolkit?

[ashen merlin]

i do, but i tried restarting it too to be sure

[real idol]

so a restart does not let the light appear as well? wut

[ashen merlin]

nopess. no errors in the logs either

[real idol]

I know that remix fails to hotload replacements sometimes until it fails completely after like 20+ reloads

[ashen merlin]

also in captures, a lot of the terrain seems to be misplaced. the grass areas in particular are just completely off axis. it seems like they're still rendered through shaders. is that expected?

[real idol]

grass is still done via shaders because that didnt work particularly well with FF. There is a setting in the enhancements tab .. correct world transforms or something ..
Is that turned on my any chance?

[ashen merlin]

use world transforms

i turned it off (it was on by default) and it made it even worse

this is how it looks with it on

with it off, the grass is just completely vertical lmao

also the lights that i placed in the indoor area (which is a completely separate loaded area) are somehow being loaded outdoors too. and the parent mesh they're attached to should not be present outdoors at all

[rugged forum]

I don't think I have that

I have the lights thing

not the grass

[ashen merlin]

it's only in captures

to be clear

[rugged forum]

I think Max Payne may have also had the lights issue

[real idol]

lights showing without a mesh is a thing on all games afaik

[ashen merlin]

ah okay. interesting

i never got far into developing a mod

i'm curious if rpleacements will work for the grass

[real idol]

weird I remember having everything looking correct in captures and grass not being an issue but I also have that now

dont think grass replacements will work

even if, you'd loose the animation

[ashen merlin]

idk if this will help you but this save has basically everyting unlocked

goes in a Save folder in the root game folder

[real idol]

hey I dont have to skip the intro any longer thanks 😄

btw. I think the scene scale is wrong and thats probably the reason volumetrics are borked a little

[ashen merlin]

yeah scene scale did absolutely nothing before so it didn't matter, but now we should prob try to fix it lol

[real idol]

0.1 seems to work better

the moon wiggles a lot lmao

[ashen merlin]

yeah it's a bug with TAAU/DLSS

https://github.com/NVIDIAGameWorks/rtx-remix/issues/734

[real idol]

what no way 😄

[ashen merlin]

yupss

[real idol]

haha thats funny

[ashen merlin]

🤔 did you set these volumetrics or are these what i did at some point

[real idol]

I did

[ashen merlin]

it looks really cool but it's also not very realistic for an interior lmao

🤔 but maybe worth keeping

i do like it

[real idol]

but I noticed that taking a capture with these settings made the entire map black

[ashen merlin]

ah 🙁

lights like to trail a lot too whenever moving around

[real idol]

might just be the sky blocking it tho .. but turning off volumetrics fixes that

[ashen merlin]

🤔 weird

the sky is really buggy too just in general so it's not surprising that it'd cause issues

[ashen merlin]

never got to mess with volumetrics before so this is just interesting behavior

[rugged forum]

Don't think I was getting this

[ashen merlin]

this also keeps happening

[ashen merlin]

this is with scene scale set to 0.1

[real idol]

its because fog is accumulating over 48 frames (I already reduced it) but this seems a little worse than in other games

[ashen merlin]

interesting

[real idol]

I had to set transmittance to a very low value to get them to work at all, they should be around 0.96 something normally .. I guess that can be reset after adjusting scene scale

mhh scene scale might need to be even loader .. like 0.01

[ashen merlin]

i usually did set it to like 0.01 when messing with terrain settings

[real idol]

now a transmittance dist of 40 gives good results

volumetrics are hard sometimes. I hope we get some more artistic settings sometime in the future

[ashen merlin]

much better

no more ghosting with lights either

🔥

it is SO nice having real lights instead of just emissives

we are gonna have so much fun remastering this now

thank you again xor 💖

[real idol]

you're welcome

[ashen merlin]

self note

[rugged forum]

should probably update the pins to link the mod

[ashen merlin]

ya i will

culling is still really bad indoors, not sure what to do about that. might try to patch it myself

[ashen merlin]

[05:16:37.444] err: Attempted invert a non-invertible matrix.
🤔 keep crashing with this error in the night barn

it's beautiful ✨

[rugged forum]

Yeah especially looking back at how it started

I have noticed when I open the inventory there seems to be a lot of extra light coming from somewhere

[ashen merlin]

god

this replacements bug is so fucking annoying

downstairs area is pretty much completely lit now but i can't see it in-game

[ashen merlin]

https://gofile.io/d/ZtXSei

can someone try installing this mod (+ xor's patch) and see if the replacements work?

use these conf files

[real idol]

the one outside works

where is that interior

[ashen merlin]

go to night time by using the icon thing next to the floating disc there. the blue one

then talk to "Bill" in front of the barn

[ashen merlin]

awesome

so for me it just won't load the replacements for some reason

😆 it works after like 4 restarts suddenly

idk why it's being so inconsistent

[real idol]

might be related to your symlink or is one of these not checked by accident?

[ashen merlin]

nope, all of those are checked

could def be the symlink acting up

😖 this is trippy

[ashen merlin]

just need to get rid of these annoying fake shadow things

[rugged forum]

I did struggle to get a good result with those

[ashen merlin]

they show up as separate instances but are connected to one mesh. i think i have to modify the mesh and replace it

[ashen merlin]

yeah it was annoying

[rugged forum]

How do you turn this on?

[ashen merlin]

it's in the pack i sent

✨

i have to place the lights manually for each one 😭

none of the instances are duplicated properly like most games do. they're either grouped into one big mesh, or separate instances with separate hashes

every single light is hand placed rn

[rugged forum]

What did you use to create the textures?

[ashen merlin]

instamat

🤔 interesting

selecting "smooth normals" on anything will crash remix

[real idol]

Yea happens in all of my mods for some reason

[cold wedge]

cr fixed it somehow

at least for garry's mod

[ashen merlin]

OMG it's fixedddd

the fake shadow meshes are gonnneee

[cold wedge]

its kim's happy day

[ashen merlin]

3 years!!! 3 years of tryin to make this work

😖 uhmm

do u guys see somethin a little off here

😭 literally all of the npcs have this

except for otis and the other main ones 🤔

[rugged forum]

Well the last 2 years was mainly just hoping someone would fix it

[ashen merlin]

not really

i tried multiple times to develop fixes myself

just tried again last month

[rugged forum]

Weren't we able to get the dance floor animated?

[ashen merlin]

seems like fixed function rendering has the animation entirely disabled

will need to make a custom flipbook for it

things to fix:

• sun/moon light position being static
• eyes for some npcs do not track
• culling in night barn is still really bad
• figure out how to replace skybox textures

[real idol]

culling in night barn is still really bad
what do you mean by that? I did not notice any culling with object dist set to 15

[rugged forum]

I believe going up the stairs you can notice the meshes that the lights are attached to disappear

[real idol]

Mhh detecting being in an interior and increasing the anti cull dist might be a way to fix that

[ashen merlin]

there's quite a bit of culling in various places. when you first enter, walk to the left wall and look at it. the wall on the other side will cull. and also the stairs yeah

[real idol]

Yea you might need to play with the anti cull settings in the f4 menu

[ashen merlin]

there were some issues noticed already with scripts being broken from the anti culling 😭

@rugged forum what do you think about the lighting

[ashen merlin]

i will mess around with it a bit

so in the night barn setting the top one to 27 and the bottom one to 100 prevents the culling issues, but obviously this is too high for the exterior

[rugged forum]

I feel like there could be another light closer

[ashen merlin]

nvm. it fixes MOST of the culling but some still happens regardless of how high i set them

[ashen merlin]

i think so too, i was just trying to work within the limitations of the scene without having to add new light fixtures

[ashen merlin]

i believe the remaining issue (just in the stairwell) has to do with the geometry for the lower level simply not being loaded/spawned yet rather than culling

setting object and world both to 200 completely resolves all culling in interiors

[real idol]

if most meshes are not proper instances, then adding a marker mesh system might be a good idea (spawning meshes based on the loaded scene)

[ashen merlin]

that would be awesome yeah. rn there are basically no proper instances

[rugged forum]

And some props don't show up, this was always an issue but now it appears sleeping won't fix it

[ashen merlin]

i thought we determined that was a bug with the game 🤔

[rugged forum]

So sleeping still does fix it nvm

[ashen merlin]

😭 you guys know what i had to do to make this look good

i didn't have a flat plane mesh so i used one of the stock meshes (a cutting board) and blocked off the skybox so it wouldn't look discolored/greenish

the box there is the room the minigame takes place in

[rugged forum]

You got any idea how to get the balls the right colour?

[ashen merlin]

that may have been something they used vertex colors for 🤔

idk how to fix this

[ashen merlin]

this isn't a proper way to light up the lamps but i think it looks nice enough for now

[rugged forum]

That looks pretty good to me

[ashen merlin]

i think night barn is complete in terms of lighting + what replacement assets i had made before

[ashen merlin]

looks so dramatic

[dense wasp]

like the director of peaky blinders was making an animation about a cow

[ashen merlin]

lmao yeah

[ashen merlin]

unfortunately the current grass is reallllllly intensive because it's stacked alpha layers, so it might be worthwhile to ditch it anyway. it is pretty integral to the look though so i'm not really sure what to do 😓

[rugged forum]

Yeah I wonder how hard it'd be to go with movie accurate grass

[edgy shard]

You can disable the grass layers in the game settings (setup.exe file in the game dir)

[ashen merlin]

right, i can do that in remix too

the problem is that rn all of the grass is still being rendered through vertex shaders, so we can't do any replacements on it

[edgy shard]

It will use world shader if you disable it

[ashen merlin]

🤔

well shit that works perfectly lol

thank you

yeah this is def the way to go

[ashen merlin]

yeah i think we can do that

it will be hard but it'll be really worth it

[ashen merlin]

look at that FPS ✨

no FG to be clear

[ashen merlin]

made an all in one package with xor's patch + latest rtx + user.conf + my replacements

[rugged forum]

Didn't I just see a screenshot earlier with a 4090 and 7950x3d?

[ashen merlin]

that was at least 6 months ago

sold the 4090 for a 5080 to make some money, and my 7950x3d blew up and AMD replaced it with a 9950x3d

https://drive.google.com/file/d/14gA9u6ETAxHpjCwa6cGTf1p6Ef4gSdZp/view?usp=sharing

[ashen merlin]

okay well for real i think outside of mesh replacements, the night barn is completely done

only game i didn't fix yet is darts

[ashen merlin]

we will get barnyard looking so good that it'll become the first thing that anyone thinks of when they think of Remix!! (big /s)

[plush oyster]

Looking great so far!. Big up stylised/cartoony projects! I'm also totally copying your homework to see if I can apply any stuff to I-Ninja and Simpsons Hit and Run 👀 .

[ashen merlin]

xor's patch is what made this possible: https://github.com/xoxor4d/barnyard-rtx/releases/tag/0.8.0

he also has the baseline code adapatible for other games available here: #1471179709508223017

prior to his patch, we were stuck only replacing textures and using emissives for lighting

now we have proper lights + mesh replacements 💖 🎉

[plush oyster]

Xoxor is the MVP!. I'm also interested in whether you figure out a good way of doing subsurface scattering for stylised characters. I think I've got it pretty much sussed out for 2d planes but objects/characters with volume end up looking very weird and plastic, and can't be previewed as easily in the App. I recently played Psychonauts 2 again, and the SS looks so good in that game. I'm sure there's a way of getting it to look that good in remix.

[ashen merlin]

remix does have proper SS, and peolpe have def gotten it to look good

but um, i have to somehow make it look good with cows and i'm not sure what the values should even be lol

[rugged forum]

I can only see it working on leaves and grass

[ashen merlin]

i think we should maintain separate projects. we seem to just have really different goals

whatever work i've done so far, i don't mind if you use it if you want to

[ashen merlin]

i think just really minimal strength SS will work okay for the characters

[rugged forum]

ig i just want the game to look a bit more like the movie

however i wouldn't have a clue on where to start with that style

[ashen merlin]

that's what i'm working toward too overall

[ashen merlin]

😔

need to figure out modelling

[ashen merlin]

i got captures of all the main areas of the game

[ashen merlin]

how it looks at dusk

REALLY need to figure out how to get the sun to track properly though

night time looks really weird

and the anti culling is def bugging many scripts

shouldn't be able to talk to pip at night

[native sable]

everything kinda looks like it has a weird sharpening filter over it right?

[ashen merlin]

pretty sure it's just the low res the game is running at (1280x960) and RR wasn't intended for that res

[native sable]

ya specifically with remix in a lot of games it feels like it has a weird subtle sharpening/deep frying over it

[ashen merlin]

i'm really happy with how this looks at least

[native sable]

can u find a way to make the game run at a higher res?

[ashen merlin]

yeah there are patches. it just never works right for me

[native sable]

ah man

[ashen merlin]

@edgy shard for whatever resaon, even with your launcher, i cannot get barnyard to run at higher resolutions. i ran setup.exe too

[edgy shard]

What resolution?

[ashen merlin]

any resolution

when i try it just falls back to 800x600

[edgy shard]

One monitor or more?

[ashen merlin]

one

[edgy shard]

Hmmm idk then

[ashen merlin]

🙁

i'll keep messin with it

[edgy shard]

Check the logs folder

[ashen merlin]

hmmm i think it just worked, but it started way off screen and i can't re-center it

[edgy shard]

A recent file that starts with BYModCore

[edgy shard]

You can also try running the modloader exe with parameters like -width 1920 -height 1080 -fullscreen

[ashen merlin]

hm

i def don't want to do fullscreen, though ik that'd fix it. for working on the mod i need to alt tab a lot

ahhh i fixed it!! SRWE to the rescue again

it lets me hook into the game exe and change the window position

[edgy shard]

-window to run in windowed mode

Or -windowed, I don't remember

[ashen merlin]

is there a way to use your launcher but disable the speedrun helper?

[edgy shard]

Remove its dll in the mods folder

[ashen merlin]

while you're here, one more question. in the current remix mod, the sun is just completely static, though the sun in the skybox moves

can you think of a way to allow me to update the sun's position with the skybox version of it?

[edgy shard]

The skybox is just a texture that rotates with time, I doubt it's connected to day time

There's AGameTimeFXManager class which is probably responsible for storing day time as a float, not sure though

[ashen merlin]

okay, i'll def look into that. i could probably modify xor's patch to pass that through to remix logic or something

thank you

@native sable

[edgy shard]

I'll look for it a bit later

[native sable]

epic

[rugged forum]

I can't seem to go higher than 1080p

I believe it is something to do with the compatability mod as i could get it to run in 4k beforehand

[ashen merlin]

no i got it to run at 2560x1440 just now

[rugged forum]

Haven't tried the args, but using the launcher to try running at 4k and it would only launch in the top left quarter in windowed

[edgy shard]

I think the game just doesn't work in 4k. That's what I saw while was testing it (I don't have a 4k display though, so maybe I encountered a side effect of using a custom resolution)

[rugged forum]

This is how it looks using the RTX Instance

And with standard

[edgy shard]

Huh that's interesting

[ashen merlin]

is this using xor's patch

[rugged forum]

Yeah

And a couple days before the patch was released I was running remix on the 2nd instance shown in 4k

[ashen merlin]

fixed one of the issues with the night barn by (once again) using a cutting board object. i attached it to one of the benches upstairs, which despawns right as you finish going down the stairs. this prevents light leaking from the skybox into the stairwell

before | after

[ashen merlin]

lol

now, to be fair the left one is the fixed function rendering version. but still ✨

[native sable]

cant believe you RUINED the sacred art style of barnyard animals

[ashen merlin]

😭

[native sable]

do you plan on matching the early 2000s cg look of barnyard animals?

obv with better path tracing than before but still

[ashen merlin]

i'm going to try to replicate the look of the movie

not the show to be clear

[native sable]

i always wondered what it’d feel like playing tie in games that use similar rendering methods to the movie

like imagine running toy story in real time

[native sable]

i absolutely love that i hope it goes well

[ashen merlin]

i have the blu ray copy as reference

going to try to get the grass looking as close as possible to the movie

i've been trying to match the barn's look but it's really difficult tbh

this is it rn

volumetrics made it look darker/duller than it should be

[native sable]

main issue rn is the sky and general tonemapping right?

[ashen merlin]

yeah the sky is going to be nearly impossible to fix. the original game has a very nice looking dynamic skybox, but it doesn't work very well with remix

so i'm going to need to replace it entirely using remix logic and somehow line it up with the in-game day/night cycle

[native sable]

that bounce lighting is just mwah

[ashen merlin]

those barn textures took me like 5 hours lol

[native sable]

you could use cr’s atmospheric sky and somehow add cloud textures on it like how fortnite does its TODMs

[ashen merlin]

the albedo texture for the white panels was bugged and darker than it should be

this is with it fixed (though a bit too bright now lol)

[ashen merlin]

😔 yeah it's just gonna be so much work

like

the sky is passable rn

just not ideal

the sun position is the real issue. it doesn't move at all, it's completely static

[native sable]

ya just the general look of game rn feels blurry with some ugly colours

[ashen merlin]

outdoors is pretty bad with it for sure

indoors is completely controlled lighting. if that looks bad to you then i might need to change some stuff

i thought it looked good though

[native sable]

a lot of great work, glad ur using the og movie as a reference especially with how this is a passion project

im excited cause this is the first path tracing project i’ve seen trying to replicate an animated movie’s visuals, which imo is the true test of real time path tracing

[ashen merlin]

i think i should try to keep the original game's night barn instead of replicating the movie one. they're clearly intended to be different

[ashen merlin]

tall order though 😅

[native sable]

comparing the offline path traced movies of yesterday to the online path traced games of today is the true test

[ashen merlin]

yus!

😭 i can't replicate this

alan wake 2 level of talent required here

[native sable]

is just grass and spotlight tho

[ashen merlin]

i can easily slap grass in

but

there's no way to animate it

it will just be static

it won't look natural

so i can't put in tall grass except for in the distance

which directly conflicts with the movie's design in many areas

[native sable]

is it worse than not having anything at all?

[ashen merlin]

in just about every area the player could walk through/interact with, tbh yeah i think it would be

but it'd be nice to have it outside of playable areas

i could put it against walls and stuff at least within playable areas

[ashen merlin]

easily would break any sense of immersion

(yes i am worried about immersion in a game where u play as a cow)

[native sable]

ask for them to create rtx foliage

[native sable]

hows the performance btw?

[ashen merlin]

DLSS Balanced at 1920x1440 (4:3) = ~60 FPS. i do have the toolkit open though so it'll probably be closer to 75 FPS with it closed

i have a 5080 for reference

perf will improve once we replace the tree leaves with actual geometry instead of alpha textures

in night barn it's ~90 FPS

[native sable]

isn’t it better to run native res with frame gen for this type of game?

[ashen merlin]

no

i hate fg

i won't use it

also there's very minimal detail loss by going to balanced

this is the perfect game to lower DLSS scaling because there's not a ton of fine detail to begin with

[native sable]

issues with latency/visual artifacting?

[ashen merlin]

yeah

i can't stand the added latency

[native sable]

i can stand 2x frame gen when the base fps is like 70

[ashen merlin]

minimum for me to actually feel okay with it is ~90 FPS base

[native sable]

are u not able to run the game at your monitor’s res?

[ashen merlin]

otherwise i can feel it and it makes me queasy, kinda like motion sickness

[ashen merlin]

rn the FOV method the game uses isn't well suited to widescreen (let alone ultrawide). it'll crop. can't remember if that's vert+ or - 🤔

another thing that needs to be patched

[native sable]

is it at least the max 4:3 res?

[ashen merlin]

yeah

takes up full vertical res

1920x1440

[native sable]

r u using transformer dlss?

[ashen merlin]

you can see my settings here

[edgy shard]

@ashen merlin getting day time:

struct AGameTimeManager {
  char  PADDING[52]; // 0x00
  int32 m_eDayPhase; // 0x34
  float m_flDayTime; // 0x38
  // ...
};

AGameTimeManager** g_ppGameTimeManager = (AGameTimeManager**)0x00783d3c;
// m_flDayTime seems to be in range [0;1200)

in Cheat Engine, if you use it

[native sable]

can u try cnn rr just so we can appreciate what we have now?

[ashen merlin]

ty!! i can do a lot with this

😖

i messed up loading somehow

[ashen merlin]

really need to get the original sky working. it makes such a huge difference

[compact crystal]

return of the king

[hallow root]

Yooooooooooo it's finally happening! Let's gooo!

[ashen merlin]

[gentle plank]

milk

[ashen merlin]

guys we have to get barnyard into the next remix update article 🙏

[rugged forum]

Ig I'm used to it because I started using remix on portal playing at 10-20fps

I remember I had to do that last fight at 8 fps

[rugged forum]

I think there was an ultra wide fix https://www.pcgamingwiki.com/wiki/Barnyard#Widescreen_resolution

[smoky hollow]

This inspired me to have a look at getting JPOG working because it's on the same engine has the same issues, couldn't figure that stuff out at all 😂

[rugged forum]

Still better than what I can do

[ashen merlin]

i think if this mod is gonna go anywhere i'm gonna need to use a lot of cc0 assets, megascans (i have the rights for them), and pbrfusion

i simply am out of energy

today i slept for ~17 hours total

[ashen merlin]

additionally the bugs with the culling patch have been fixed

npcs now function properly

[ashen merlin]

https://github.com/Kim2091/barnyard-rtx

current code is here

sun positioning and rotation is borked still. billboard is opposite of where the actual sun is

functional proof of concept

worth using at least for the npc bug fix

[rugged forum]

[placid egret]

Great work. @ashen merlin well done!

[ashen merlin]

ty!

[rugged forum]

Unfortunately I don't know c++ so this is mostly gibberish to me 🙂

[rugged forum]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pYbHlFktBrI

[rugged forum]

Relating to this issue
#1106420949257044061 message

[ashen merlin]

so an update

i'm going to be replacing the original game's skybox with CR's custom sky fork. i can control it far more precisely and easily, and can adjust its parameters to give a similar appearance to the vanilla skybox

[native sable]

wow… this is destroying the original game’s delicate art style

unsubbed

dislike

going home

pouring a glass of water

drinking water

[ashen merlin]

😖

[smoky hollow]

I tried using that on JPOG but none of the sky options showed up

[ashen merlin]

you need to mark the sky textures as sky for it to work, then go into Game Setup->Parameter tuning and change it to physical sky

[smoky hollow]

Never shows up for me even though I absolutely have a sky 😶

[ashen merlin]

did you explicitly mark the sky textures as sky textures in the remix menu though?

[smoky hollow]

Yup

Is there a specific build I have to get or something?

I figured it was because I'm using the proxy or something

[ashen merlin]

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[smoky hollow]

Ahh

You absolute legend

Thank you