Barnyard | RTX Remix Showcase | Page 4

vivid falcon Sep 14, 2023, 6:35 AM

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Do you have the authoring layer above the capture or below it?

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It seems like I can't remove references too if the mod.usda layer is listed below any capture

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Not even with text editing

ashen merlin Sep 14, 2023, 6:36 AM

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it only happens with specific objects in a capture

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the order doesn't seem to matter with those

vivid falcon Sep 14, 2023, 6:40 AM

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ashen merlin the order doesn't seem to matter with those

Can you send the captures? I would like to try something

ashen merlin Sep 14, 2023, 6:42 AM

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i can send the capture file, but not any assets

rugged forum Sep 14, 2023, 6:47 AM

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I usually have the mod.usda above captures

vivid falcon Sep 14, 2023, 6:48 AM

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rugged forum I usually have the mod.usda above captures

Yea you definetely should

ashen merlin Sep 14, 2023, 6:49 AM

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yeah, that's how i have it as well

vivid falcon Sep 14, 2023, 6:53 AM

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Uhm I was able to delete reference just fine, but I don't have that asset in captures so that might be why. However I needed to do some weird trickery to add mod.usda as reference

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I copied the path, entered into the adress bar (I know it is same thing as navigating and selecting) then it worked

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Maybe it is failing to gather relative path or something?

ashen merlin Sep 14, 2023, 6:54 AM

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why are you adding mod.usda as reference?

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https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1096847508002590760/1120867195208073266/USD_Composer_2023.1.0_Beta_-_D__SteamLibrary_steamapps_common_PortalRTX_rtx-remix_combined.usda__2023-06-20_17-04-15.mp4

▶ Play video

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i ran into the issue following these steps to replace a material

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the reference would delete, then just immediately re-appear

vivid falcon Sep 14, 2023, 6:56 AM

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I always import material into mod.usda then reference to it

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I think Mark might have said, or I understood it this way

ashen merlin Sep 14, 2023, 6:58 AM

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can you show me how you do that?

rugged forum Sep 14, 2023, 7:00 AM

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vivid falcon I always import material into mod.usda then reference to it

Yeah this is what i've been doing

vivid falcon Sep 14, 2023, 7:00 AM

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ashen merlin can you show me how you do that?

ashen merlin Sep 14, 2023, 7:01 AM

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i do recall mark saying to import it, but i didn't think he meant that way

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i'll have to try it

vivid falcon Sep 14, 2023, 7:03 AM

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Idk, this is how I done it for ever. Sometimes assigning textures to default materials don't work either, so I do reference them to AperturePBR_Opacity.

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I recall this as Mark's suggestion

ashen merlin Sep 14, 2023, 7:06 AM

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i can't seem to find his posts about it 😦

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this is what i run into

rugged forum Sep 14, 2023, 7:07 AM

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I think that is from the mod.usda being lower than the capture

ashen merlin Sep 14, 2023, 7:07 AM

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i don't have a mod.usda even loaded here

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it happens regardless of the position though

vivid falcon Sep 14, 2023, 7:07 AM

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ashen merlin it happens regardless of the position though

What is the authoring layer then

ashen merlin Sep 14, 2023, 7:08 AM

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just the root, which works fine and is above the capture

rugged forum Sep 14, 2023, 7:08 AM

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I know starting out with translucent materials i was getting this until I moved the mod.usda above captures

ashen merlin Sep 14, 2023, 7:08 AM

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but again, i've tried it in multiple positions and it persists

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i can't seem to resolve it

vivid falcon Sep 14, 2023, 7:08 AM

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You've tried with mod.usda as the authoring layer as well right?

ashen merlin Sep 14, 2023, 7:08 AM

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yes

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that's what i'm referring to. i've had mod.usda above and below it, doesn't matter for this issue

vivid falcon Sep 14, 2023, 7:09 AM

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Hmm so the only difference in this case is that I don't have the assets, idk it would affect anything tho.

ashen merlin Sep 14, 2023, 7:10 AM

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mm wow. now it's magically working. i have no idea what changed, i loaded the exact same setup i've been working with for the last month

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but at least it's resolved, lmao

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that's so annoying though. it happened when i was testing COD 2 stuff as well

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i wonder if the order is showing differently than it's behaving as?

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this time, i manually dragged mod.usda back into the same position it was already in, and it seemed to resolve it. so maybe it just bugged out

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well, thanks for troubleshooting it

ashen merlin Sep 14, 2023, 7:15 AM

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vivid falcon

seems to work well, thanks

vivid falcon Sep 14, 2023, 7:16 AM

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ashen merlin i can't seem to find his posts about it 😦

#1096847508002590760 message
#1096847508002590760 message
Both of those mean referencig to the translucent.usda which is what Portal referenced the MDL in, but I think I might have misunderstood it and added the material into mod.usda as the first post suggests

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And I definetely didn't question it after got it working once 😄

ashen merlin Sep 14, 2023, 7:18 AM

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lol

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well, if it works, it works 😛

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we should ask Mark about it at some point though

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also, translucency!

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i had this one working before, but then all of my stuff got corrupted

vivid falcon Sep 14, 2023, 7:19 AM

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ashen merlin also, translucency!

What is translucent here

ashen merlin Sep 14, 2023, 7:19 AM

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the glass on the right side

vivid falcon Sep 14, 2023, 7:19 AM

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Ah

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Now make the milk translucent as well

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You might need to set a diffuse texture or something

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I don't think transmittance color would work

ashen merlin Sep 14, 2023, 7:21 AM

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i can't. the milk shares the same mesh as the metal parts

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ashen merlin Sep 14, 2023, 7:26 AM

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ashen merlin also, translucency!

i did change the milk in the tubes to be translucent, doesn't look too good though imo

vivid falcon Sep 14, 2023, 7:27 AM

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ashen merlin i did change the milk in the tubes to be translucent, doesn't look too good thou...

Hmm I think it is because the milk flowing through is kinda glowy

ashen merlin Sep 14, 2023, 7:27 AM

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yeah, i can't seem to avoid that

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if i set a transmittance texture, it makes it glow

vivid falcon Sep 14, 2023, 7:27 AM

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Does it glow as well when there is no lights?

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Some textures do for some reason

ashen merlin Sep 14, 2023, 7:28 AM

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there are no lights

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i have no idea why that scene is lit up

vivid falcon Sep 14, 2023, 7:28 AM

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Try disabling emissive override

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don't remember where exactly but should be in alpha rendering

vivid falcon Sep 14, 2023, 7:29 AM

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ashen merlin there are no lights

It might be fallback light or a distant light?

ashen merlin Sep 14, 2023, 7:29 AM

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doesn't change anything

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ah yeah, it was fallback

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with fallback disabled

vivid falcon Sep 14, 2023, 7:30 AM

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ashen merlin with fallback disabled

Yea it is still lit up to some point. The milk is definetely glowing tho

ashen merlin Sep 14, 2023, 7:31 AM

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ah wait, eventually the glow went away, and it became dark

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vivid falcon Sep 14, 2023, 7:32 AM

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Weird it became too dark compared to others now

ashen merlin Sep 14, 2023, 7:32 AM

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this game does still have that opacity bug

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so i'm sure other visuals aren't quite right either

vivid falcon Sep 14, 2023, 7:33 AM

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ashen merlin this game does still have that opacity bug

I am not sure this issue affects the overall image tho, had the same issue in Minetest (there wasn't performance issues) but it looked fine to me :/

vivid falcon Sep 14, 2023, 7:34 AM

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ashen merlin

So if there is no lights how it is still lit?

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Is you exposure super high or something

ashen merlin Sep 14, 2023, 7:34 AM

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when i disabled opacity for a single texture, it did look quite a bit brighter. however, it still showed wrong in the debug view. Mark's theory about there being a texture in front of the camera that's marked as opacity makes sense in this case. the texture i corrected would no longer be set as opacity, but the debug view would only seen that transparent texture overlaying the camera

ashen merlin Sep 14, 2023, 7:34 AM

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vivid falcon So if there is no lights how it is still lit?

i have no idea

ashen merlin Sep 14, 2023, 7:35 AM

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vivid falcon Is you exposure super high or something

and no, at least not afaik

vivid falcon Sep 14, 2023, 7:35 AM

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ashen merlin when i disabled opacity for a single texture, it did look quite a bit brighter. ...

Wouldn't it be visible on the captures in this case

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the layer on the camera

ashen merlin Sep 14, 2023, 7:35 AM

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not necessarily

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lemme get a pic of the changed texture

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the way it's lit looks a lot more like other games

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the tire marks and the area around it

rugged forum Sep 14, 2023, 7:37 AM

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that reminds me

ashen merlin Sep 14, 2023, 7:37 AM

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rugged forum Sep 14, 2023, 7:37 AM

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I'm going to quickly generate a displacement for that

vivid falcon Sep 14, 2023, 7:38 AM

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ashen merlin

Hmm how do you set the opacity? Is it simple as putting a variable into the usda

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I think we could bulk set textures as opacity using https://discord.com/channels/1028444667789967381/1104187632189181992

ashen merlin Sep 14, 2023, 7:39 AM

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i think i just had to uncheck this

vivid falcon Sep 14, 2023, 7:39 AM

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ashen merlin i think i just had to uncheck this

Uhm uncheck?

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my english stopped working

ashen merlin Sep 14, 2023, 7:39 AM

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well, it's marked as opacity by default

ashen merlin Sep 14, 2023, 7:39 AM

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vivid falcon I think we could bulk set textures as opacity using https://discord.com/channels...

yeah, probably. i just haven't had time

vivid falcon Sep 14, 2023, 7:40 AM

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Can you send the var that sets it as opaque, I can try it

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in the mod.usda

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Oh also I need the materials folder of yours, don't need the textures themselves

ashen merlin Sep 14, 2023, 7:41 AM

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uniform bool enable_opacity = 0

vivid falcon Sep 14, 2023, 7:41 AM

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Materials folder should contain usd files for each texture hash

ashen merlin Sep 14, 2023, 7:41 AM

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hm

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i need to figure out the unit scale

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seems i can use this

vivid falcon Sep 14, 2023, 7:51 AM

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ashen merlin `uniform bool enable_opacity = 0`

Like this?

        over "mat_${materialHash}"
        {
            over "Shader"
            {
                uniform bool enable_opacity = 0
            }
        }

ashen merlin Sep 14, 2023, 7:51 AM

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ignore the alpha test thing

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        {
            over "Shader"
            {
                uniform bool enable_opacity = 0
            }
        }```

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so just that, lol

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you got it

vivid falcon Sep 14, 2023, 7:53 AM

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📎 mod.usda

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Here

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Here is the modified script, put it near the materials folder if you wanna test with new materials, base script written by RoseQQ

📎 generate_textures_usda.zip

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Bro uses semicolons in powershell

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Game tekes forever to load for me, without the enchantments

ashen merlin Sep 14, 2023, 8:03 AM

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vivid falcon Here is the modified script, put it near the materials folder if you wanna test ...

thank you

vivid falcon Sep 14, 2023, 8:03 AM

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ashen merlin thank you

I don't know if it works right now

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Can't get my game to load

ashen merlin Sep 14, 2023, 8:03 AM

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also, i found the scales. so the real life sign is 914.4mm, and in-game it's 1140390mm, lol. what's weird is that everything in captures is extremely miniscule, but in blender this sign was so big that i had to change the camera clipping

ashen merlin Sep 14, 2023, 8:04 AM

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vivid falcon Can't get my game to load

i'll try it

vivid falcon Sep 14, 2023, 8:04 AM

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ashen merlin also, i found the scales. so the real life sign is 914.4mm, and in-game it's 114...

Hmm, I never actully tried to find actual scales in the games I tested, this is definetely something I should

ashen merlin Sep 14, 2023, 8:05 AM

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that mod.usda file just isn't doing anything

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OV says it's not a valid usda layer

vivid falcon Sep 14, 2023, 8:08 AM

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I could finally load the game, it is 1 frame per second

vivid falcon Sep 14, 2023, 8:08 AM

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ashen merlin OV says it's not a valid usda layer

Hold on, probably messed something

ashen merlin Sep 14, 2023, 8:10 AM

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i couldn't find anything wrong with it

rugged forum Sep 14, 2023, 8:13 AM

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still need to fix some roughness maps

vivid falcon Sep 14, 2023, 8:17 AM

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ashen merlin i couldn't find anything wrong with it

I've previously used this script for Minetest and it worked fine, so it might be because I removed the material references

ashen merlin Sep 14, 2023, 8:17 AM

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that's possible. Mark did say it was necessary in various circumstances

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generating the references properly was a pain in the ass using the python library

vivid falcon Sep 14, 2023, 8:18 AM

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ashen merlin generating the references properly was a pain in the ass using the python librar...

Yea just working with plain text seems to be easier 🙂

ashen merlin Sep 14, 2023, 8:19 AM

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on the bright side, now that it's done, i don't really have to modify my scripts anymore. they'll just continue to work with whatever changes are made

vivid falcon Sep 14, 2023, 8:19 AM

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@ashen merlin can you send your rtx.conf? I think I lost it and my game runs like slideshow

ashen merlin Sep 14, 2023, 8:19 AM

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i'll see if i can add the material stuff to that script

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sure

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📎 rtx.conf

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@vivid falcon since you have it setup already, can you try running it with this?

📎 usda_mat_tex_template

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i'm not sure if this is what you meant. mark did say it's recommended when running without a captures folder, but the NFS project doesn't seem to rely on it at all and things work fine for them

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it's a bit odd

vivid falcon Sep 14, 2023, 8:30 AM

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Hmm still no err: USD mod file failed parsing: D:\Games\Barnyard\rtx-remix\mods\gameReadyAssets\mod.usda

ashen merlin Sep 14, 2023, 8:30 AM

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😦

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i bet it's something obvious, lol

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i just can't find it

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new rtx.conf with volumetric fog tweaked to actually look good

📎 rtx.conf

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looks quite a bit better than the old fog imo

vivid falcon Sep 14, 2023, 8:36 AM

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So this is done using ov

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#usda 1.0
(
    upAxis = "Y"
)

over "RootNode"
{
    over "Looks"
    {
        over "mat_D5E7EE4B270D8CBB"
        {
            over "Shader"
            {
                uniform bool enable_opacity = 0
            }
        }

        over "mat_DCD62553F05282D0"
        {
            over "Shader"
            {
                uniform bool enable_opacity = 0
            }
        }
    }
}

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Isn't it the same thing 🤔

ashen merlin Sep 14, 2023, 8:37 AM

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i don't really see anything different

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maybe it's just the length of the file?

vivid falcon Sep 14, 2023, 8:37 AM

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ashen merlin maybe it's just the length of the file?

Portal's replacements.usda is around 1.4 mb lol

ashen merlin Sep 14, 2023, 8:38 AM

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i did a bad

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very trippy

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trippy conf for you all, lmao

📎 rtx.conf

vivid falcon Sep 14, 2023, 8:39 AM

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What have you done lol

ashen merlin Sep 14, 2023, 8:40 AM

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did something bad with the volumetric settings i guess, lol

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i honestly don't know what. it just suddenly broke and never went back to normal, even with the default settings

vivid falcon Sep 14, 2023, 8:41 AM

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ashen merlin i honestly don't know what. it just suddenly broke and never went back to normal...

Try marking a world texture then unmarking

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It does function like refresh button for me

ashen merlin Sep 14, 2023, 8:43 AM

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haha

vivid falcon Sep 14, 2023, 8:43 AM

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Oh wait

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the mod.usda file the script generated

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might have POM?

ashen merlin Sep 14, 2023, 8:43 AM

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vivid falcon Try marking a world texture then unmarking

doesn't fix it

vivid falcon Sep 14, 2023, 8:43 AM

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or the other way

ashen merlin Sep 14, 2023, 8:44 AM

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why would it have POM?

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sadly i've gotta sleep

vivid falcon Sep 14, 2023, 8:45 AM

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What's that byte

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UTF-16 (LE) FF FE

ashen merlin Sep 14, 2023, 8:52 AM

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lol

vivid falcon Sep 14, 2023, 8:52 AM

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The one ov generates is UTF-8

ashen merlin Sep 14, 2023, 8:52 AM

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so transferring the contents to a new file fixed it

vivid falcon Sep 14, 2023, 8:52 AM

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ashen merlin so transferring the contents to a new file fixed it

Does the game look different?

ashen merlin Sep 14, 2023, 8:52 AM

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i have to load it

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uhhh

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sure does look different 😛

vivid falcon Sep 14, 2023, 8:53 AM

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ashen merlin sure does look different 😛

lol

vivid falcon Sep 14, 2023, 8:53 AM

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vivid falcon

Try the first one

ashen merlin Sep 14, 2023, 8:53 AM

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kind of scary actually, lol

vivid falcon Sep 14, 2023, 8:54 AM

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The first one I send, it was exactly same as ov's

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other than the encoding of course

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Yea we've been warned @ashen merlin

ashen merlin Sep 14, 2023, 8:55 AM

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lol

ashen merlin Sep 14, 2023, 8:55 AM

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vivid falcon The first one I send, it was exactly same as ov's

that worked

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it does look different, but performance is the same

vivid falcon Sep 14, 2023, 8:56 AM

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ashen merlin it does look different, but performance is the same

So it does look as it is intended to be? Like you've said Barnyard looks different than other games

ashen merlin Sep 14, 2023, 8:56 AM

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well, i thought it looked different. apparently not?

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maybe this didn't resolve the issue entirely

vivid falcon Sep 14, 2023, 8:56 AM

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I am out of ideas

ashen merlin Sep 14, 2023, 8:57 AM

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me too

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still all red in debug

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ah well 😦

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thank you for trying. i have to sleep now

ashen merlin Sep 16, 2023, 9:02 PM

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DLSS produces "ghost cows", whereas TAAU does not

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this is gonna be a funny bug report

rugged forum Sep 16, 2023, 10:31 PM

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I thought that was just a dlss issue

ashen merlin Sep 16, 2023, 10:40 PM

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DLSS doesn't inherently do this, i think it can be fixed

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i opened an issue about it on github to see

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if TAAU (an upscaler far worse than DLSS) doesn't do it, then something is wrong

rugged forum Sep 17, 2023, 10:58 AM

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It would be nice if we had fsr implemented, I would imagine someone will try it when fsr 3 comes out

vivid falcon Sep 17, 2023, 10:59 AM

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FSR3 won't be helpful in this situation, we gotta figure out what causing this issue #1106420949257044061 message

rugged forum Sep 17, 2023, 11:03 AM

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ashen merlin still all red in debug

What does the red mean?

vivid falcon Sep 17, 2023, 11:04 AM

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rugged forum What does the red mean?

non opaque

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which remix doesn't like

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It is expected to cause performance issues but the issue with this paticular game might not be related to this at all, Minetest has exact same issue but doesn't have performance issues this severe
But it is definetely an issue

ashen merlin Sep 30, 2023, 1:40 AM

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hm

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newest build seems to make the floating save/sleep icons explode

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flashing warning!

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what's weird is this only happened after being in the game for maybe 20 minutes?

rugged forum Sep 30, 2023, 3:09 AM

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What is new in the latest build?

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Is there a way to prevent exploding?

ashen merlin Sep 30, 2023, 3:19 AM

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they updated the USD library. i don't think that'd cause this though

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i've been playing with the latest build across multiple games, and they all crash after a while

rugged forum Sep 30, 2023, 2:29 PM

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Honestly the exploding is so bad for me I can't even ride to dankweed pond without something exploding

vague drum Sep 30, 2023, 4:57 PM

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weed's too dank atm

ashen merlin Oct 3, 2023, 4:36 PM

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rugged forum Honestly the exploding is so bad for me I can't even ride to dankweed pond witho...

did you have to do anything to trigger it? or was it immediate

rugged forum Oct 3, 2023, 5:21 PM

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Well It always seems to happen as soon as I ride outside the Barn

ashen merlin Oct 4, 2023, 4:55 AM

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ouch

sonic sand Oct 4, 2023, 4:59 AM

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ashen merlin ouch

Have u tried resetting rtx.config...

ashen merlin Oct 4, 2023, 5:00 AM

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there's nothing in there that should be breaking this

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having to start over would really suck

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same issue with a clean rtx.conf file

sonic sand Oct 4, 2023, 7:14 AM

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ashen merlin same issue with a clean rtx.conf file

just make a backup and try

rugged forum Oct 4, 2023, 7:17 AM

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What is causing it though, doesn't seem to be an issue with replaced assets

tame flume Oct 4, 2023, 4:56 PM

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ashen merlin ouch

Ray tracing is so last year, we do ray blasting now.

ashen merlin Oct 4, 2023, 5:03 PM

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sonic sand just make a backup and try

i already did

ashen merlin Oct 4, 2023, 5:03 PM

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rugged forum What is causing it though, doesn't seem to be an issue with replaced assets

i have no idea. can't figure out the source of it. in the barnyard it stems from the floating icons, but i dunno about elsewhere

dense wasp Oct 7, 2023, 10:50 PM

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Maybe something to do with the new way remix assumes stuff is UI or not? My UI elements will become world assets now if it's unticked

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What happens if you roll back dxvk and bridge by 2 months?

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Could be something as simple as entering a dodgy command that's gotten saved in the games config file even.

ashen merlin Oct 7, 2023, 10:56 PM

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rolling it back even 2 weeks fixes it

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i reported the issue on github, waiting and hoping

dense wasp Oct 7, 2023, 10:58 PM

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Gotta be the UI thing, that's 2 weeks old now, it's under the second tab, above sky

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#1157928901520130088 message

rugged forum Oct 11, 2023, 7:47 AM

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Well the exploding issue seems to be resolved since the last dxvk I tested a week ago

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well maybe not resolved but not as bad, I can actually get to Dankweed pond without issues now

ashen merlin Oct 18, 2023, 9:29 PM

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@rugged forum may i distribute your save file to some of the Nvidia developers? it'd probably make their testing a lot easier

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also, to avoid the corruption, revert to this dxvk-remix build: https://github.com/NVIDIAGameWorks/dxvk-remix/actions/runs/6353019004

rugged forum Oct 18, 2023, 9:42 PM

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Yeah that is completely fine

rugged forum Nov 4, 2023, 1:02 PM

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Not exactly remix related but here is a 240fps version of the intro incase anyone wanted it

ashen merlin Nov 26, 2023, 10:58 PM

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it's a shame, but there's still vertex explosion issues

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interestingly it pauses now after a certain amount of time (sometimes)

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lol

ashen merlin Nov 26, 2023, 11:03 PM

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ashen merlin also, to avoid the corruption, revert to this dxvk-remix build: https://github.c...

huh

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i used this build just now and the corruption still happens

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maybe the bridge is responsible as well?

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also when entering then leaving the barn, LOD objects like this appear with incorrect lighting, and the corruption happens

ashen merlin Dec 7, 2023, 12:12 AM

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interestingly the corruption has improved in the latest builds. it happens much less often now

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sky is still broken though

ashen merlin Dec 7, 2023, 3:10 AM

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sadly this still happens. it's even worse than it was a few months ago

ashen merlin Dec 26, 2023, 11:09 PM

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replaced the planks here 😛

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800x600 doesn't look very good...

dense wasp Dec 26, 2023, 11:20 PM

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Now we're talking. Looks good to me

ashen merlin Dec 26, 2023, 11:20 PM

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my first time using Mixer with custom materials. thanks 🙂

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here. has some interesting visual issues on black areas, not really sure why

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for my first attempt though, i'm pretty happy

rugged forum Dec 27, 2023, 3:02 AM

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ashen merlin replaced the planks here 😛

For a second I thought you got mesh replacements working

ashen merlin Dec 27, 2023, 3:04 AM

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ah, i wish

ashen merlin Dec 27, 2023, 9:55 PM

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until i can replace meshes, this odd mishmash pattern will have to do

ashen merlin Dec 27, 2023, 10:33 PM

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looks really nice for just texture replacements, at least imo

ashen merlin Dec 28, 2023, 12:32 AM

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can't seem to get the replacement white areas as bright as it should be

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😦

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it's this bright in the texture

dense wasp Dec 28, 2023, 12:39 AM

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ashen merlin it's this bright in the texture

Hmm. Let's start by checking your roughness is around 0.9-1 and your metalness is 0

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You might have a material override in the rtx remix menu

ashen merlin Dec 28, 2023, 12:41 AM

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hm, good point

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these are my settings in Remix:

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oh, oops. that's legacy...

dense wasp Dec 28, 2023, 12:42 AM

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Yea that looks fine.

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Brightness is diffuse + light received. Maybe that's peak brightness under those lighting conditions

ashen merlin Dec 28, 2023, 12:44 AM

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yeah, very possible. unfortunately it really detracts from the game's visual style

dense wasp Dec 28, 2023, 12:44 AM

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The cows hair is brighter though

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In debug check albedo

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Should match

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Cod2 has slight shading so I'll turn off lighting with a command and render everything flat

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Might be shading from the old game

ashen merlin Dec 28, 2023, 12:49 AM

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diffuse albedo?

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the very white planks there on the barn are from the original game btw. the dull ones are the replacements

dense wasp Dec 28, 2023, 12:51 AM

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Yea that's the one. So something is up here for sure

ashen merlin Dec 28, 2023, 12:51 AM

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would you like me to send my textures?

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it's a shared texture, so i had to merge a bunch of stuff onto one

dense wasp Dec 28, 2023, 12:52 AM

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I've had to come of the pc but can look tomorrow sure 🙂

ashen merlin Dec 28, 2023, 12:52 AM

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oh, no worries. thank you for the help today

dense wasp Dec 28, 2023, 12:52 AM

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Think it might be a game side thing. Lighting or something though

ashen merlin Dec 28, 2023, 12:53 AM

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could be, yeah

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RT off for comparison

dense wasp Dec 28, 2023, 12:53 AM

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Can you make the game render flat diffuse only,?

ashen merlin Dec 28, 2023, 12:53 AM

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afaik no

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RT on, replacements off

dense wasp Dec 28, 2023, 12:54 AM

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Your diffuse needs to be bc7. No alpha if that helps

ashen merlin Dec 28, 2023, 12:54 AM

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i guess this is what i get for choosing a shader heavy game

ashen merlin Dec 28, 2023, 12:54 AM

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dense wasp Your diffuse needs to be bc7. No alpha if that helps

i'll check that

rugged forum Jan 3, 2024, 1:16 PM

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So what was the reason(technically) we couldn't get mesh replacements working?

ashen merlin Jan 3, 2024, 9:15 PM

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honestly, i still don't know. it's over my head a bit for this part

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i made this progress btw. was doing more, then life happened

rugged forum Jan 3, 2024, 11:42 PM

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I want to re create the attract intro with all replaced assets but the rock meshes are just so bad that it isn't worth doing until we can have mesh replacements

rugged forum Jan 3, 2024, 11:43 PM

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ashen merlin i made this progress btw. was doing more, then life happened

That barn is looking way better now

rugged forum Jan 4, 2024, 5:56 AM

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Is the roof default?

ashen merlin Jan 4, 2024, 6:37 AM

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pretty much all materials were replaced, roof included

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no meshes though

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original

rugged forum Jan 4, 2024, 6:41 AM

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Has the exploding been resolved yet?

ashen merlin Jan 4, 2024, 6:43 AM

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sadly no, but i did find some more details as to what causes it. apparently for whatever reason when LODs are swapping for high res models, they sometimes fail to load. i found this by disabling RT entirely in the debugoptimized builds. leaving the area and coming back fixes the corruption. not sure what's causing it

ashen merlin Jan 5, 2024, 4:37 AM

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i've got this pretty apparent and distracting tiling issue on the ground, any ideas?

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man things would just look so much better with a proper skybox and sun...

ashen merlin Jan 5, 2024, 4:40 AM

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ashen merlin sadly no, but i did find some more details as to what causes it. apparently for ...

this is an example of that issue btw

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rugged forum Jan 7, 2024, 4:30 AM

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ashen merlin i made this progress btw. was doing more, then life happened

Good job on the trees, personally I don't think they fit on those trees but I know it would work perfectly on another type

rugged forum Jan 7, 2024, 8:20 AM

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@ashen merlin 🤔

vivid falcon Jan 7, 2024, 8:22 AM

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rugged forum <@410198342300205066> 🤔

It's just enabling dxvk hud, probably for testing on their side

rugged forum Jan 7, 2024, 8:26 AM

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So I guess we should soon see commits towards fixing barnyard

rugged forum Jan 7, 2024, 10:03 AM

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Trying to add this as a reference

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It is trying to look in the wrong directory

rugged forum Jan 9, 2024, 4:18 PM

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ashen merlin i made this progress btw. was doing more, then life happened

Oh, and have your trees been shimmering, mine have been shimmering all over, not sure if it is a texture issue or a remix issue?

ashen merlin Jan 9, 2024, 4:21 PM

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yeah, that's a remix problem. it happens in a ton of games

ashen merlin Jan 12, 2024, 10:24 PM

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rugged forum Good job on the trees, personally I don't think they fit on those trees but I kn...

what makes them not fit? i'd like to improve it

rugged forum Jan 13, 2024, 12:20 AM

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ashen merlin what makes them not fit? i'd like to improve it

To me it hasn't got the somewhat cartoon look of the old trees

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But in Walnut Woods there are trees that would work there

ashen merlin Jan 13, 2024, 12:23 AM

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hmm. this may just come down to personal preference differences?

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i guess my plan was to replace all materials with more realistic ones, but retain the original colors as much as possible. given that the original meshes would still be in place, i thought that it'd retain some of that cartoonish look while also being more... clear

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it'd be almost impossible for me to make replacements all by myself for the whole game, and i just don't have that kind of time anyway

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unrelated but: right now i'm doing some reverse engineering (thanks for the tips before @weary yoke) and figured out the area of code that controls the sun/moon. removing the sun/moon only seems to fix the issues with shadows and light sources being rasterized

rugged forum Jan 13, 2024, 12:27 AM

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TBF my approach to textures in the game was never clear, It is all just upscaled original textures and it is very messy rn

dense wasp Jan 13, 2024, 12:27 AM

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This any good @ashen merlin ?
https://github.com/NVIDIAGameWorks/dxvk-remix/commit/4e9f0d855e12831f7640383a05aadc990a81114b

GitHub

Merge branch 'dev/adunn/fix_geometry_corruption' into 'main' · NVID...

[REMIX-2100][REMIX-2239] (fixes #245) (fixes #258) Fix geometry corruption in shader based games

See merge request lightspeedrtx/dxvk-remix-nv!656

ashen merlin Jan 13, 2024, 12:29 AM

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dense wasp This any good <@410198342300205066> ? https://github.com/NVIDIAGameWorks/dxvk-re...

https://github.com/NVIDIAGameWorks/dxvk-remix/actions/runs/7507564365 this, right?

Alex updated me in the issue thread on it: https://github.com/NVIDIAGameWorks/rtx-remix/issues/258#issuecomment-1889972356

it does actually appear to fix the issues! so far at least. i'm going to test it more in depth before confirming it, but it is at minimum far more stable

dense wasp Jan 13, 2024, 12:29 AM

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Yay!

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Can't keep a good cow down

ashen merlin Jan 13, 2024, 12:30 AM

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lol

rugged forum Jan 13, 2024, 12:30 AM

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Has lighting been fixed I've seen recent commits with "fix_lighting"

ashen merlin Jan 13, 2024, 12:30 AM

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ashen merlin unrelated but: right now i'm doing some reverse engineering (thanks for the tips...

this is the other issue i'm trying to fix right now. whenever the sun or moon is in frame (or just loaded in the world), this happens

ashen merlin Jan 13, 2024, 12:30 AM

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rugged forum Has lighting been fixed I've seen recent commits with "fix_lighting"

if you mean light replacements, not that i'm aware of 😦

ashen merlin Jan 13, 2024, 12:50 AM

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well, i deleted the moon

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now to delete the sun 😛

weary yoke Jan 13, 2024, 1:06 AM

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ashen merlin unrelated but: right now i'm doing some reverse engineering (thanks for the tips...

aww

ashen merlin Jan 13, 2024, 1:06 AM

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soo

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right now i'm just outright deleting code in the debugger, lol. trying to figure out the correct way to do this

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0060ECC5 - C6 01 01 - mov byte ptr [ecx],01
right now this is what has the sun/moon show up

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😛

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before

rugged forum Jan 13, 2024, 1:10 AM

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So all this fixed was the white square and the spinning circles on the ground?

ashen merlin Jan 13, 2024, 1:11 AM

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no, this is me trying to fix that issue

ashen merlin Jan 13, 2024, 1:11 AM

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ashen merlin <https://github.com/NVIDIAGameWorks/dxvk-remix/actions/runs/7507564365> this, ri...

this fixes the sudden geometry explosion and corruption

rugged forum Jan 13, 2024, 1:14 AM

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ashen merlin no, this is me trying to fix that issue

Yeah, so removing the moon fixes the issue?

ashen merlin Jan 13, 2024, 1:18 AM

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yeah, sun and moon

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can't find another workaround right now unfortunately. it'd probably need to be patched in Remix

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but until then, i have this

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i'll make a patch available here

rugged forum Jan 13, 2024, 1:20 AM

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So do we know why does the sun and moon cause the issue?

ashen merlin Jan 13, 2024, 1:21 AM

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the original game seemingly uses it to handle the windows and ground shadows at night. my guess is just that whatever shader is used to do this is handled incorrectly in Remix

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Moon:
Barnyard 1080p.exe+20F4CB - B8 00000000 - mov eax,00000000
Sun:
Barnyard 1080p.exe+20F4A1 - B8 00000000 - mov eax,00000000

these two simple things controlled it

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i'll make sure it works in the unpatched exe as well, then release it as a .1337 file

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wow, i actually did something, lmao

ashen merlin Jan 13, 2024, 2:01 AM

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📎 Remove_Sun_and_Moon.1337

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@vivid falcon i just realized that the grass is basically a nightmare for performance here
it's just stacked layers of transparent textures

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i wonder how i can mitigate this without mesh replacements

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setting it to ignore definitely improved performance. this sucks

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going to give replacements another shot

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still broken

ashen merlin Jan 13, 2024, 3:06 AM

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ashen merlin Jan 13, 2024, 3:06 AM

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ashen merlin

sick wedge Jan 13, 2024, 3:24 AM

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ashen merlin Moon: Barnyard 1080p.exe+20F4CB - B8 00000000 - mov eax,00000000 Sun: ...

Wow, that's great! I'm excited to see another master of RE emerge.

ashen merlin Jan 13, 2024, 4:13 AM

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🙂 i hope so

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maybe one day

ashen merlin Jan 13, 2024, 7:12 AM

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for anyone's who's done captures in this game, you may have been wondering about the giant blue half-sphere under the game world

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i just figured it out. it's to make any water appear blue, lol

ashen merlin Jan 13, 2024, 7:41 AM

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@hallow root do you have any tips to improve color matching? because of the roughness layers and the way Remix displays them, colors in Mixer are very inaccurate compared to Remix. in Mixer, these textures both appear to be roughly the same color

vivid falcon Jan 13, 2024, 8:13 AM

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ashen merlin i wonder how i can mitigate this without mesh replacements

Maybe we could use the translucent material and get rid of it's surface reflections somehow.

ashen merlin Jan 13, 2024, 8:50 AM

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yeah, maybe

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it took me about an hour to properly match that damn thing, lol

ashen merlin Jan 13, 2024, 9:18 AM

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i made progress here. replaced the dirt road and the side dirt areas

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and the new bridge (bottom only)

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it's only this orange btw because it's sunset in the game

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oops, had DLSS UP on

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probably doesn't look great. sorry

rugged forum Jan 13, 2024, 9:31 AM

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Oh that looks wayy better than my attempt at it

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ashen merlin Jan 13, 2024, 9:45 AM

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how did you adjust it to be able to see clouds? also to have proper shadows like that. just the fallback light?

ashen merlin Jan 13, 2024, 9:45 AM

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rugged forum

also that really doesn't look too bad 😛

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i'm just beginning myself, lots to learn

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ah, it's probably my eye adaptation settings for the sky

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apparently not

rugged forum Jan 13, 2024, 9:51 AM

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It is mainly the side of the path that needs improving

vivid falcon Jan 13, 2024, 9:51 AM

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vivid falcon Maybe we could use the translucent material and get rid of it's surface reflecti...

nah, this is the best I could get :/ There's still reflections

ashen merlin Jan 13, 2024, 9:52 AM

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rugged forum

would you mind sending your rtx.conf for this?

ashen merlin Jan 13, 2024, 9:52 AM

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vivid falcon nah, this is the best I could get :/ There's still reflections

that's a shame. honestly not sure what to do then. guess this will just be very tedious

vivid falcon Jan 13, 2024, 9:53 AM

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Also since this thing still uses both transmission (despite it's ior is 1 AND it's thin walled) and reflection PSR, I don't think this will help that much performance wise.

rugged forum Jan 13, 2024, 9:54 AM

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ashen merlin would you mind sending your rtx.conf for this?

📎 rtx.conf

ashen merlin Jan 13, 2024, 9:54 AM

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thanks

ashen merlin Jan 13, 2024, 9:55 AM

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vivid falcon Also since this thing still uses both transmission (despite it's ior is 1 AND it...

interestingly newer Remix builds are performing better in this game. i think that geometry corruption fix that was just pushed must have done it?

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okay, wish me luck guys. i'm going to try to remove culling

rugged forum Jan 13, 2024, 9:56 AM

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I need to try the new build

rugged forum Jan 13, 2024, 9:57 AM

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ashen merlin and the new bridge (bottom only)

What did you use to make the height map on the bridge bricks?

ashen merlin Jan 13, 2024, 9:58 AM

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those are fully custom replacements with PBR textures from ambientcg

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i used Quixel Mixer to put multiple together

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here's the albedo

rugged forum Jan 13, 2024, 10:02 AM

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ashen merlin <@1074634383996227627> i just realized that the grass is basically a nightmare f...

I always thought the performance issue was the grass

dense wasp Jan 13, 2024, 10:05 AM

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You could get that layered grass effect with parallax occlusion mapping with a low step count

ashen merlin Jan 13, 2024, 10:06 AM

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that'd be great. how could i go about doing that?

dense wasp Jan 13, 2024, 10:08 AM

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You'll have to model your chunky grass as 3d models and bake a height map onto a flat plane

vivid falcon Jan 13, 2024, 10:09 AM

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dense wasp You'll have to model your chunky grass as 3d models and bake a height map onto a...

tadpole3159 when he does literally anything:

ashen merlin Jan 13, 2024, 10:14 AM

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lol

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aw man

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game crashed right when i was about to narrow it down

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i did get oddly close to figuring it out too, which i didn't expect

vivid falcon Jan 13, 2024, 10:16 AM

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keep it up, even Adam had to spend couple fun hours to fix Chess Titans

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I too spent that fun hours but I couldn't even manage to crash the game :D

rugged forum Jan 13, 2024, 10:45 AM

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ashen merlin how did you adjust it to be able to see clouds? also to have proper shadows like...

And yeah I think it is just the fallback light

ashen merlin Jan 13, 2024, 11:12 AM

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i'm not making much progress unfortunately

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gonna need Adam's help 😦

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i did find the geometry handling section, but it crashed right when i was going through it. it's no longer in the same memory location, so i can't seem to find it again

ashen merlin Jan 13, 2024, 11:39 AM

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yeah, i give up for tonight at least. sadly i'm just way over my head

rugged forum Jan 13, 2024, 11:40 AM

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So you haven't tested light/mesh replacements?

ashen merlin Jan 13, 2024, 11:51 AM

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i have, it's still broken

lilac patrol Jan 13, 2024, 11:52 AM

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dont worry

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they will fix it

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issue is reported?

ashen merlin Jan 13, 2024, 11:54 AM

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has been for about 10 months now

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including for FNV and Skyrim

rugged forum Jan 13, 2024, 11:55 AM

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#1106420949257044061 message
Yeah mark said something about it here

hallow root Jan 13, 2024, 12:39 PM

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ashen merlin <@309723958943678465> do you have any tips to improve color matching? because of...

Apologies for the late reply, that's super odd and should not behave that way at all! How is it set up in mixer?

ashen merlin Jan 13, 2024, 8:21 PM

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hallow root Apologies for the late reply, that's super odd and should not behave that way at...

i just imported the textures manually to the library, and used them as layers in my project. i do have many mixed though

ashen merlin Jan 13, 2024, 8:22 PM

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ashen merlin here's the albedo

here's my bridge texture albedo

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and the connecting road

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the colors are almost entirely matched now

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however in Mixer, they look extremely different to each other

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Flourescent currently gives the best reproduction of them all relative to the game, but even this isn't ideal

ashen merlin Jan 13, 2024, 9:31 PM

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@weary yoke if you can, i would really appreciate some help trying to RE the culling. i have a very very basic understanding and that's about it right now 😦

weary yoke Jan 13, 2024, 9:41 PM

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uh theres usually a command that you look for

ashen merlin Jan 13, 2024, 9:43 PM

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what, something like -noculling?

weary yoke Jan 13, 2024, 9:49 PM

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I wish it was that simple. It's like fld

ashen merlin Jan 13, 2024, 9:51 PM

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yeah...

weary yoke Jan 13, 2024, 9:52 PM

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http://www.lighthouse3d.com/tutorials/view-frustum-culling/radar-approach-testing-points/

Lighthouse3d.com

Radar Approach – Testing Points

The approaches presented in the previous sections were based on the fact that the volume of the view frustum is delimited by six planes. In those approaches the setup phase was responsible for extr…

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Ya wanna look for this structure

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That's the super common one

ashen merlin Jan 13, 2024, 9:54 PM

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hmm

weary yoke Jan 13, 2024, 9:57 PM

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It's usually involves an arctan or cos function

ashen merlin Jan 13, 2024, 9:58 PM

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this game is annoying to use with x32dbg. it pauses any time it's alt tabbed, so it just goes back to the same instruction when paused

weary yoke Jan 13, 2024, 9:58 PM

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It'd be easier to use ghidra on it rather than x32dbg

hallow root Jan 13, 2024, 9:58 PM

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ashen merlin Flourescent currently gives the best reproduction of them all relative to the ga...

If this happens that most likely means you have wildly different Roughness/metallness/AO values

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Enter the different viewmodes to check the other map outputs and match them ^^

ashen merlin Jan 14, 2024, 12:52 AM

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weary yoke It's usually involves an arctan or cos function

wow, less than expected

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the code exported in C is only 581k lines. this is gonna be eaaasy

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void FUN_006c7b40(float *param_1,float *param_2,float param_3,float *param_4)

{
  float fVar1;
  float fVar2;
  float fVar3;
  float fVar4;
  float fVar5;
  float fVar6;
  float fVar7;
  float fVar8;
  float fVar9;
  float fVar10;
  float fVar11;
  float fVar12;
  float fVar13;
  float fVar14;
  float fVar15;
  float fVar16;
  float fVar17;
  float fVar18;
  float fVar19;
  float fVar20;
  float10 fVar21;
  float10 fVar22;
  
  fVar1 = param_2[1];
  fVar2 = param_1[2];
  fVar3 = param_2[2];
  fVar4 = param_1[1];
  fVar5 = param_2[2];
  fVar6 = *param_1;
  fVar7 = *param_2;
  fVar8 = param_1[2];
  fVar9 = *param_2;
  fVar10 = param_1[1];
  fVar11 = param_2[1];
  fVar12 = *param_1;
  fVar13 = param_2[2];
  fVar14 = param_1[2];
  fVar15 = param_2[1];
  fVar16 = param_1[1];
  fVar17 = *param_1;
  fVar18 = *param_2;
  fVar21 = (float10)fcos((float10)param_3);
  *param_4 = (float)(fVar21 * (float10)*param_1);
  param_4[1] = (float)(fVar21 * (float10)param_1[1]);
  param_4[2] = (float)(fVar21 * (float10)param_1[2]);
  param_4[3] = param_1[3];
  fVar22 = (float10)fsin((float10)param_3);
  fVar19 = (float)fVar22;
  fVar20 = (fVar1 * fVar2 - fVar3 * fVar4) * fVar19 + *param_4;
  *param_4 = fVar20;
  fVar3 = (fVar5 * fVar6 - fVar7 * fVar8) * fVar19 + param_4[1];
  param_4[1] = fVar3;
  fVar4 = (fVar9 * fVar10 - fVar11 * fVar12) * fVar19 + param_4[2];
  param_4[2] = fVar4;
  fVar5 = (1.0 - (float)fVar21) * (fVar17 * fVar18 + fVar15 * fVar16 + fVar13 * fVar14);
  fVar1 = param_2[1];
  fVar2 = param_2[2];
  *param_4 = fVar20 + fVar5 * *param_2;
  param_4[1] = fVar3 + fVar5 * fVar1;
  param_4[2] = fVar4 + fVar5 * fVar2;
  return;
}

hmm could this be it? or am i stupid

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i'm stupid

weary yoke Jan 14, 2024, 1:21 AM

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It’s missing the OR condition

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The || in the conditional statement

ashen merlin Jan 14, 2024, 1:22 AM

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ya. that's what i realized after. i found a few now that may match and am trying them

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thanks for the advice

weary yoke Jan 14, 2024, 1:29 AM

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I’m pretty sick right now || coronaS || so I got all the time to help 💚

ashen merlin Jan 14, 2024, 1:34 AM

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aw, i hope you feel better

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    local_94 = param_1[3];
    local_a0 = *param_1 - local_54;
    cVar4 = '\x01';
    local_9c = param_1[1] - local_50;
    local_98 = param_1[2] - local_4c;
    fVar8 = (float10)FUN_006c74f0();
    local_7c = (float)fVar8;
    if (fVar8 < (float10)local_90 != (NAN(fVar8) || NAN((float10)local_90))) {
      fVar8 = (float10)FUN_006c7670(&DAT_0077cff4,local_44);
      fVar9 = (float10)fcos((float10)1.047197543084621);
      local_78 = (float)fVar9;
      if (-fVar9 < fVar8 != (NAN(-fVar9) || NAN(fVar8))) {
        pfVar7 = (float *)FUN_004159e0(&local_a0,local_90 - local_7c);
        *param_1 = *param_1 - *pfVar7;
        param_1[1] = param_1[1] - pfVar7[1];
        param_1[2] = param_1[2] - pfVar7[2];
        goto LAB_0045e0dc;
      }
    }
    cVar4 = '\0';
  }

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        FUN_006c7590();
        pfVar4 = (float *)(param_1 + 0x10);
        if (DAT_00773cc4 != '\0') {
          fStack_60 = *pfVar4;
          fStack_5c = *(float *)(param_1 + 0x14);
          fStack_58 = *(float *)(param_1 + 0x18);
          uStack_54 = *(undefined4 *)(param_1 + 0x1c);
          fVar7 = (float10)FUN_006c7670(iVar1 + 0xcc,&DAT_0077cff4);
          fVar8 = (float10)fcos((float10)1.745329238474369);
          fStack_78 = (float)fVar8;
          if (fVar8 <= fVar7) {
            FUN_006c8a80(&fStack_60,auStack_40,&fStack_60);
            fStack_78 = -1.3;
            pfVar4 = (float *)FUN_00408660(&fStack_5c,&fStack_78);
            fStack_5c = *pfVar4;
          }
          else {
            FUN_006c8a80(&fStack_60,auStack_40,&fStack_60);
            FUN_006b6870(&fStack_58,&DAT_bf800000,0x3f800000);
          }
          FUN_006c8a80(&fStack_50,puStack_74,&fStack_60);
          pfVar4 = &fStack_50;
        }
        FUN_006513b0(*(undefined4 *)(param_1_00 + 0x120),pfVar4,&fStack_70);
      }
    }

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i'm just staring at these and not making any progress unfortunately. also i can't seem to search for this code in Ghidra (i dumped it to a C file so i could browse it more easily)

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doesn't look quite right

weary yoke Jan 14, 2024, 1:50 AM

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ashen merlin ``` if (cVar4 == '\x01') { local_94 = param_1[3]; local_a0 = *param_1 -...

This one looks promising

ashen merlin Jan 14, 2024, 1:51 AM

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📎 message.txt

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this is the full code snippet

weary yoke Jan 14, 2024, 2:05 AM

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it seems a bitlong but if you change cVar4 to = '\1' what happens?

ashen merlin Jan 14, 2024, 2:06 AM

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can i edit the code in ghidra?

weary yoke Jan 14, 2024, 2:07 AM

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nah yo wanna do it in x32dbg

ashen merlin Jan 14, 2024, 2:08 AM

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i assume you mean this line?
cVar4 = '\x01';
if so (i'm sorry) how do i apply it to the corresponding line in assembly?
fstp dword ptr ss:[esp+14],st(0)

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ah crap. this code is in the middle of fmod (sound engine) stuff

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1915FF50  0000000A  
1915FF54  00000000  
1915FF58  1915FF84  
1915FF5C  100270BD  return to fmod._FSOUND_SetMemorySystem@20+1457 from ???
1915FF60  0000000A  
1915FF64  1000D7FD  return to fmod._FSOUND_Stream_SetBufferSize@4+644 from fmod._FSOUND_SetMemorySystem@20+1442
1915FF68  0000000A  
1915FF6C  1000D77C  fmod._FSOUND_Stream_SetBufferSize@4+5C3
1915FF70  00000000  
1915FF74  1000D77C  fmod._FSOUND_Stream_SetBufferSize@4+5C3
1915FF78  758D7BA9  return to kernel32.BaseThreadInitThunk+19 from ???
1915FF7C  00000000  
1915FF80  758D7B90  kernel32.BaseThreadInitThunk
1915FF84  1915FFDC  
1915FF88  77AABD3B  return to ntdll.RtlInitializeExceptionChain+6B from ???

weary yoke Jan 14, 2024, 2:13 AM

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welp

ashen merlin Jan 14, 2024, 2:14 AM

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if so (i'm sorry) how do i apply it to the corresponding line in assembly?
fstp dword ptr ss:[esp+14],st(0)
still curious about this though

weary yoke Jan 14, 2024, 2:29 AM

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double click a line in x32dbg to edit it

ashen merlin Jan 14, 2024, 2:34 AM

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i mean what in that line to change

ashen merlin Jan 14, 2024, 3:49 AM

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i set a bunch of breakpoints for sections matching this regex:
>.*\|\|.*< (matches the if statement in the example you provided)

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i got one that actually did something when culling was present in the game:

int __thiscall FUN_006bcf70(int *param_1_00,char param_1,int param_2)

{
  if (param_2 == -1) {
    param_2 = (param_1_00[1] << 8) >> 8;
  }
  else if (((param_1_00[1] << 8) >> 8 < param_2) || (param_2 < 0)) {
    return -1;
  }
  while( true ) {
    if (param_2 < 0) {
      return -1;
    }
    if (*(char *)(*param_1_00 + param_2) == param_1) break;
    param_2 = param_2 + -1;
  }
  return param_2;
}

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no cos though

hallow root Jan 14, 2024, 3:50 AM

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ashen merlin i just imported the textures manually to the library, and used them as layers in...

This is very bizzare, and the output texture is coming out blue? Is that same area tinted blue inside of mixer if you switch to the albedo viewport?

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If so, there's probably something funky going on with your layers

ashen merlin Jan 14, 2024, 3:51 AM

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possibly. i'm a Mixer noob

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when i have resources to run Mixer i'll give some examples

hallow root Jan 14, 2024, 3:51 AM

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👍

ashen merlin Jan 14, 2024, 3:51 AM

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thanks 🙂

hallow root Jan 14, 2024, 3:51 AM

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Aye! Happy to be of any help

ashen merlin Jan 14, 2024, 4:02 AM

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ashen merlin i got one that actually did something when culling was present in the game: ``` ...

this actually didn't do anything. however this does:

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📎 message.txt

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modifying this crashes the game upon loading in

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i'll just mess with this silently from here, lol. it's not going too well

ashen merlin Jan 14, 2024, 4:36 AM

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done for tonight

ashen merlin Jan 14, 2024, 5:51 AM

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one last discovery i forgot to post:

void FUN_006b7370(float param_1,float *param_2,float *param_3)

{
  float10 fVar1;
  
  fVar1 = (float10)fsin((float10)param_1);
  *param_2 = (float)fVar1;
  fVar1 = (float10)fcos((float10)param_1);
  *param_3 = (float)fVar1;
  return;
}

doing a jmp here corrupts visuals in-game. can't find what reads it, so unfortunately it's a bit of a dead end

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oo never mind

ashen merlin Jan 14, 2024, 9:24 AM

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so it's working, but it's not really. InfiniteC0re helped a ton (thank you). sadly in its current state, it just makes the game even worse:

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also the core level geometry still culls

ashen merlin Jan 16, 2024, 10:42 AM

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^ that has kind of killed this for me. i currently don't have the knowledge to do what's necessary to fix culling issues like that (i think i'd have to rewrite a decent portion in assembly), and continuing to work on a game that has such major incompatibilities isn't really too smart. no mesh replacements, no lighting replacements, and now we're stuck with major culling issues

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i might just quickly retexture the main barnyard area, then move on

ashen merlin Jan 16, 2024, 10:44 AM

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hallow root If this happens that most likely means you have wildly different Roughness/metal...

colors look the same during daytime. at night it's wrong again. it has to be the issue you said

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i really wish i could open multiple projects at once in Mixer, just in tabs

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roughness for that dirt "siding"

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and then for the main dirt texture

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i suppose contrast could be adjusted

hallow root Jan 16, 2024, 10:54 AM

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ashen merlin colors look the same during daytime. at night it's wrong again. it has to be the...

So for this piece here, there's definitely some colour variance in the textures BUT

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I suspect what actually makes it so vastly different is the mesh normals

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They're probably not aligned which creates a hard cut

ashen merlin Jan 16, 2024, 10:55 AM

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there's some huge seams from the meshes, yeah

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it's a shame i can't replace them

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(even if i could, i'm such a noob at modeling that it'd probably be worse, lol)

rugged forum Jan 16, 2024, 1:16 PM

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ashen merlin ^ that has kind of killed this for me. i currently don't have the knowledge to d...

The culling doesn't bother me too much it is the mesh replacements and lights that kill it for me. Not being able to fix the sky really takes away the potential

ashen merlin Jan 16, 2024, 1:31 PM

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yeah

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i just mean that i was willing to work on this game if the culling could be fixed, but it seems like that isn't even the case

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reasonably at least

random path Jan 16, 2024, 7:24 PM

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It's so good to see this is an actual project

ashen merlin Jan 17, 2024, 7:37 PM

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not sure it'll continue unfortunately

ashen merlin Jan 17, 2024, 7:58 PM

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dense wasp You could get that layered grass effect with parallax occlusion mapping with a l...

i did a very basic implementation of this and it's pretty passable. with some more effort it should look good

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performance is quite good

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if i add some POM to the underlying grass texture as well, i think this would be pretty great

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need to redo the roughness layers for most textures. this technique works fairly well already though

dense wasp Jan 17, 2024, 8:41 PM

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Yea that's works don't it, nice one

ashen merlin Jan 17, 2024, 8:44 PM

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added a new pole texture

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but lmao, i forgot that it's baked with other details

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the transformer is now made of wood

rugged forum Jan 17, 2024, 8:51 PM

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ashen merlin the transformer is now made of wood

But I remember the transformer having its own texture

ashen merlin Jan 17, 2024, 8:51 PM

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it's all in one

rugged forum Jan 18, 2024, 2:12 AM

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Well I guess you wil have to copy and paste the transformer in

ashen merlin Jan 18, 2024, 2:14 AM

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i got it, yeah. Quixel Mixer lets me do it fairly easily using paint masks

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here's my very poor texture. i just rushed it to test, and it does work

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i'll improve it later

rugged forum Jan 18, 2024, 2:20 AM

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I can't figure out how to use mixer

ashen merlin Jan 18, 2024, 7:19 PM

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it's a bit messy at first

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their tutorials are pretty helpful though

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wZ-iiYFBZxk&list=PL5uQePynMSiJrymVHla6-JOHqV-aPIS83

ashen merlin Jan 22, 2024, 7:45 PM

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HAHA

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so i can't defeat culling, but i can defeat a lot of the effects of it

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a major issue with it was light bleed from culled areas, especially in the night barn

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so i placed a HUGE mesh around the main character (that'll only take effect inside the barn)

this method actually exploits the improperly functioning replacements that follow the player around even when attached to another mesh. i attached the sphere to a mesh that's only present in the barn at night time, and it now blocks light from the culled areas 🙂

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without the fix

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with it

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ah okay. my fingers were getting tired 😛

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but hmmmm

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because of culling, lights in the scene are also culled and as a result, the area can quickly become pitch black

vivid falcon Jan 22, 2024, 7:52 PM

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ashen merlin because of culling, lights in the scene are also culled and as a result, the are...

Light anti-culling doesn't work?

ashen merlin Jan 22, 2024, 7:52 PM

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because the lights are only emissives, no 😦

vivid falcon Jan 22, 2024, 7:52 PM

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Ah I forgot there is no lights

ashen merlin Jan 22, 2024, 7:53 PM

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ah well

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so much for big brain Kim

cold wedge Jan 22, 2024, 7:57 PM

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ashen merlin so i placed a HUGE mesh around the main character (that'll only take effect insi...

how did you get it to only activate inside the barn?

ashen merlin Jan 22, 2024, 7:58 PM

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replacements are broken in this game. basically all i had to do was attach it to a mesh that's only present inside the barn. any replaced meshes just follow the player around because of the replacement bug

ashen merlin Jan 22, 2024, 8:07 PM

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ashen merlin so much for big brain Kim

actually! it turns out i just placed a sphere incorrectly

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it's working perfectly

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the only real issue is that emissives ghost like crazy

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yeah, it works great! i'm very happy now

rugged forum Jan 22, 2024, 8:35 PM

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So light replacements work?

ashen merlin Jan 22, 2024, 8:36 PM

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no, this is still emissives

rugged forum Jan 22, 2024, 8:38 PM

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ashen merlin not sure it'll continue unfortunately

But do you plan to continue now?

ashen merlin Jan 22, 2024, 8:38 PM

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not sure. i'm very low on time as is

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i may end up resorting to ai upscaled stuff again, which i really didn't want to do for this game

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i may just try to handle the lighting and leave it at that. that way it's playable and is still fun

vivid falcon Jan 22, 2024, 8:40 PM

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ashen merlin the only real issue is that emissives ghost like crazy

I am curious does it get any better if you disable RTXDI or ReSTIR GI

ashen merlin Jan 22, 2024, 8:41 PM

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game crashed

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i'll try now

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it's definitely less ghost-y when RTXDI is disabled

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ReSTIR GI is definitely beneficial to leave on though. it's very shimmery without it

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leaving RTXDI on but disabling temporal reuse helps though. it looks better than it being turned off entirely

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it's definitely disorienting when moving around a lot

rugged forum Jan 22, 2024, 8:48 PM

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Sadly i'm not going to be able to play with much of the toolkit today

vivid falcon Jan 22, 2024, 8:49 PM

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ashen merlin

You're disabling spatial reuse?

ashen merlin Jan 22, 2024, 8:50 PM

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ah sorry, meant to toggle temporal reuse

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interestingly it has a similar effect

vivid falcon Jan 22, 2024, 8:51 PM

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Hopefully RR magic works for this game as well

ashen merlin Jan 22, 2024, 8:52 PM

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i hope so

weary yoke Jan 23, 2024, 4:47 PM

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How do you get remix to inject into this Hmm

ashen merlin Jan 23, 2024, 4:51 PM

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what do you mean?

weary yoke Jan 23, 2024, 4:51 PM

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Doesn't hook

ashen merlin Jan 23, 2024, 4:51 PM

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it's a DX8 game, so you'll need d3d8to9

weary yoke Jan 23, 2024, 4:51 PM

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Ooohhhhh

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Was there a trick to avoid it running with really low fps?

ashen merlin Jan 23, 2024, 4:58 PM

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i never had that issue, odd

vivid falcon Jan 23, 2024, 4:59 PM

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foliage?

ashen merlin Jan 23, 2024, 4:59 PM

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oh, i assumed without Remix. on my 3090 it's playable at 1080 with DLSS Quality (even with foliage). i always forget what GPU Adam has

weary yoke Jan 23, 2024, 5:00 PM

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Dunno what it was but now its fine

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SHRUGGERS

ashen merlin Jan 23, 2024, 5:00 PM

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lol, as long as it works

vivid falcon Jan 23, 2024, 5:01 PM

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Don't question if it works

weary yoke Jan 23, 2024, 5:08 PM

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Man until I used freecam I didn't realize it culls so well

ashen merlin Jan 23, 2024, 5:22 PM

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i've never really observed culling in depth before, interesting that this is "good" culling

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@weary yoke this is a relevant comment from the person who was helping me

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i tried messing with that function and made no progress, it's well beyond my range of knowledge

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let me find the adjustments i used to disable culling (to the point that we could)

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change 006ceb0f from XOR AL, AL to MOV AL, 1 should make it return true all the time

and

006cea53: JZ 0x006ceaad => JMP 0x006ceaad

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unfortunately these mods have the effect of "reverse culling" some trees and objects on the map, and doesn't appear to affect the main geometry culling at all

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https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1106420949257044061/1196021954109505647/barnyard_anticull_test.mp4?ex=65bf57be&is=65ace2be&hm=17c2ec48483b85390f42d5de8df1f3f8a00aae229e36f7accce674852c055667&

▶ Play video

weary yoke Jan 23, 2024, 5:41 PM

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That's with 006CEAFA removed, which is def the culling for trees as stated

ashen merlin Jan 23, 2024, 5:42 PM

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mm i remember modifying that too? there's so many i messed with. i kept notes but deleted them by mistake

weary yoke Jan 23, 2024, 5:42 PM

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Not quite sure why the tests for trees are seperate from terrain

ashen merlin Jan 23, 2024, 5:42 PM

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yeah, it's odd

ashen merlin Jan 23, 2024, 5:46 PM

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weary yoke That's with `006CEAFA` removed, which is def the culling for trees as stated

wait, yours has the same issue, not sure if you noticed it

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trees near the player are culled, but distant ones are not

weary yoke Jan 23, 2024, 5:56 PM

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ashen merlin trees near the player are culled, but distant ones are not

Prob part of some other classification

weary yoke Jan 23, 2024, 6:47 PM

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What game engine does this use?

cold wedge Jan 23, 2024, 6:48 PM

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renderware?

ashen merlin Jan 23, 2024, 7:03 PM

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weary yoke What game engine does this use?

i believe it's a custom engine made by that developer

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i can't believe i didn't link this to you earlier, so sorry

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https://github.com/InfiniteC0re/OpenBarnyard

GitHub

GitHub - InfiniteC0re/OpenBarnyard: Disassembly of Barnyard the vid...

Disassembly of Barnyard the video game and the TOSHI game engine. - GitHub - InfiniteC0re/OpenBarnyard: Disassembly of Barnyard the video game and the TOSHI game engine.

weary yoke Jan 23, 2024, 7:04 PM

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I've never seen so much dead-end code

ashen merlin Jan 23, 2024, 7:04 PM

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there's a WIP decompilation of it

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(also, there's no symbols floating around or under any cushions)

ashen merlin Jan 23, 2024, 7:05 PM

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weary yoke I've never seen so much dead-end code

seems i chose a perfect game to start with, haha. i'm impressed with myself then. i managed to disable the sun and moon and also got about 3/4 the way there for the culling stuff

weary yoke Jan 23, 2024, 7:18 PM

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There's like 300 culling tests for some reason, each one slightly different.

ashen merlin Jan 23, 2024, 7:21 PM

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ouch

sick wedge Jan 23, 2024, 7:21 PM

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weary yoke There's like 300 culling tests for some reason, each one slightly different.

It seems that different objects have varying culling distances, and the developer wrote separate culling functions for each object instead of using a single function with a distance parameter?

ashen merlin Jan 23, 2024, 7:22 PM

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that might explain some of the odd behavior with objects sometimes showing up behind the player

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hmmmn

weary yoke Jan 23, 2024, 7:22 PM

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sick wedge It seems that different objects have varying culling distances, and the develope...

Maybe, anything is possible

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0x006CF870 looks like a fun one

ashen merlin Jan 23, 2024, 7:23 PM

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maybe related:
006B7370 (jumping this to 006b7388 breaks visual rendering and seemingly forces the camera straight up or down)
^ nothing in CE seems to read this address

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found only one of my notes

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there were just so many things tying to each other in that area that i got pretty overwhelmed

weary yoke Jan 23, 2024, 7:28 PM

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ashen merlin there were just so many things tying to each other in that area that i got prett...

00576630 is another interesting one

weary yoke Jan 23, 2024, 7:29 PM

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ashen merlin > maybe related: > 006B7370 (jumping this to 006b7388 breaks visual rendering an...

Prob something to do with moving the camera to avoid going inside objects

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oooo tangent hmmCoffee

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005E7BB0 for easy finding

ashen merlin Jan 23, 2024, 7:31 PM

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weary yoke `00576630` is another interesting one

i'm too noob, i don't see anything in that one of interest. what do you see?

weary yoke Jan 23, 2024, 7:33 PM

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ashen merlin i'm too noob, i don't see anything in that one of interest. what do you see?

The arctans, lots of comparisions to 0 and close to 0..

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Uh

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There's a clamp to either 1 or -1 at the very begining as well

ashen merlin Jan 23, 2024, 7:34 PM

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ah, interesting. more to look out for then

weary yoke Jan 23, 2024, 7:35 PM

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Oh thank god it gets called every frame KEK

ashen merlin Jan 23, 2024, 7:35 PM

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ohhh i'm so stupid. the counter i was looking at in CE was probably iterating based on that

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i missed so many because of that

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lmao

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thanks for looking into this btw

weary yoke Jan 23, 2024, 7:37 PM

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weary yoke Oh thank god it gets called every frame <:KEK:677348119729668106>

Nope it doesn't get called every frame

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I was lied to Madge

ashen merlin Jan 23, 2024, 7:39 PM

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how are you monitoring that?

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ah never mind

weary yoke Jan 23, 2024, 7:46 PM

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ashen merlin how are you monitoring that?

Add a breakpoint in the function before it starts branching

ashen merlin Jan 23, 2024, 7:47 PM

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i was having issues using breakpoints, because barnyard pauses when alt tabbed. i'm probably just not using it right

weary yoke Jan 23, 2024, 7:51 PM

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It'll change to Paused in the lower left corner in x32

edgy shard Jan 23, 2024, 8:06 PM

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sick wedge It seems that different objects have varying culling distances, and the develope...

I don't think there are more than 2 methods for the culling. The first one is CullSphereToFrustum and the second one is CullSphereToFrustumSimple. The first one uses flags to perform checks against selected planes and the second one performs a check against all 6 planes of the frustum. The engine saves TRenderPackets in the buffer to render them when flush is called. I think there's a limit in ATreeManager and AInstanceManager that prevents rendering more of N instances. It seems to have two steps in adding the render packets to the buffer. The first step is to find N visible instances by calling one of the cull methods and the second step is just a foreach cycle that calls TMesh::Render for every mesh of the found inatances

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struct TSphere {
  TVector3 m_Origin;
  TFLOAT m_fRadius;
};

struct TPlane {
  TVector3 m_Normal;
  TFLOAT m_fDistance;
};

// 0x006cea40
TINT Toshi::TRenderContext::CullSphereToFrustum(TSphere *a_rSphere, TPlane *a_pPlanes, TINT a_iClipFlags, TINT a_iClipFlagsMask)
{
    TINT iLeftPlanes = a_iClipFlags & a_iClipFlagsMask;
    TINT iPlaneFlag = 1;

    do {
        if (iLeftPlanes == 0)
        {
            return a_iClipFlags;
        }

        if (iLeftPlanes & iPlaneFlag)
        {
            TFLOAT fDist = TVector4::DotProduct3(a_rSphere.AsVector4(), a_pPlanes->AsVector4()) - a_pPlanes->GetD();

            if (a_rSphere.GetRadius() < fDist)
            {
                return -1;
            }

            if (fDist < -a_rSphere.GetRadius())
            {
                a_iClipFlags &= ~iPlaneFlag;
            }

            iLeftPlanes &= ~iPlaneFlag;
        }

        iPlaneFlag = iPlaneFlag << 1;
        a_pPlanes++;

    } while (TTRUE);
}

// 0x006cead0
TINT Toshi::TRenderContext::CullSphereToFrustumSimple(const TSphere& a_rSphere, const TPlane* a_pPlanes, TINT a_iNumPlanes /* unused */)
{
    for (TUINT i = 0; i < 6; i++)
    {
        TFLOAT fDist = TVector4::DotProduct3(a_rSphere.AsVector4(), a_pPlanes[i].AsVector4());

        if (a_rSphere.GetRadius() < fDist - a_pPlanes[i].GetD())
            return TFALSE;
    }

    return TTRUE;
}

weary yoke Jan 23, 2024, 8:07 PM

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edgy shard I don't think there are more than 2 methods for the culling. The first one is Cu...

Do you know what memory addresses are responsible for it?

edgy shard Jan 23, 2024, 8:09 PM

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0x006cea40 - CullSphereToFrustum
0x006cead0 - CullSphereToFrustumSimple

edgy shard Jan 23, 2024, 8:31 PM

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0x005ef3a0 - ATreeManager::Render (the call of TMesh::Render is at 0x005efbcb)
0x005e17a0 - AInstanceManager::Render (the call of TMesh::Render is at 0x005e1a0c; 0x005e10e0 and 0x005e14d0 are the methods that do the first step with finding N visible instances)
0x005f3f20 - ASkinMeshHAL::Render (instanced from TMesh where Render is a virtual method)
0x006d59f0 - Toshi::TRegMaterial::AddRenderPacket

sick wedge Jan 23, 2024, 8:45 PM

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edgy shard ```cpp struct TSphere { TVector3 m_Origin; TFLOAT m_fRadius; }; struct TPla...

That's Cool.

rugged forum Jan 24, 2024, 1:34 PM

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ashen merlin with it

Pls share?

ashen merlin Jan 24, 2024, 1:34 PM

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i will soon, don't worry

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trying to remove any copyrighted assets from my pack first

rugged forum Jan 24, 2024, 1:35 PM

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Ah alright, what does that include so far?

ashen merlin Jan 24, 2024, 1:36 PM

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all of the light configs for the night barn interior, and the dirt and barn replacements i've done in the barnyard area

edgy shard Jan 24, 2024, 1:39 PM

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There are a few textures that were made for a hd texture pack that has never came out so I can share them. iirc all of the dirt textures are remade

ashen merlin Jan 24, 2024, 1:40 PM

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that's nice of you. unfortunately i'm not sure if they'll be of much use because i'm using PBR materials with roughness and normal layers

rugged forum Jan 24, 2024, 1:41 PM

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I'd find it useful, just create roughness maps and normal maps from the given textures

ashen merlin Jan 24, 2024, 1:42 PM

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it'd still be great to have 🙂

rugged forum Jan 24, 2024, 1:45 PM

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And I'm having a lot of trouble getting a decent image from the dirt, it'd be much appreciated

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It isn't this texture pack is it?

edgy shard Jan 24, 2024, 1:48 PM

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rugged forum It isn't this texture pack is it?

yes, that one

ashen merlin Jan 24, 2024, 1:50 PM

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looks really nice

edgy shard Jan 24, 2024, 1:50 PM

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📎 tex.zip

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some of them need to be reconverted with applying alpha channel as a mask (it can be done in Photoshop by selecting alpha channel and applying mask to the layer)

rugged forum Jan 24, 2024, 1:52 PM

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Is this still in development?

edgy shard Jan 24, 2024, 1:53 PM

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no, I don't think so
the person who was working on it has lost interest, I guess

rugged forum Jan 24, 2024, 1:53 PM

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😔

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Thanks for sharing the textures, I'm probably going to get started with them tomorrow, but rn I'm going to bed

ashen merlin Jan 24, 2024, 4:12 PM

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@rugged forum @hallow root https://cloud.kim2091.art/index.php/s/gZjb8edaziS7dm2

(this doesn't contain the barn textures, something went wrong with them)

Nextcloud

Barnyard_Remix_Tech_Demo.7z

Nextcloud - a safe home for all your data

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if you own the game, you can just extract and copy to your game folder. it's all configured 🙂

for Traggey, the textures are in the rtx-remix directory as you'd expect

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ah i got the barn stuff working. uploading now

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https://cloud.kim2091.art/index.php/s/z4qHb3dZMpDPc2z

Nextcloud

Barnyard_Remix_Tech_Demo_2.7z

Nextcloud - a safe home for all your data

vivid falcon Jan 24, 2024, 4:33 PM

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Have you guys fixed culling?

ashen merlin Jan 24, 2024, 4:33 PM

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no 😦

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Adam may be working his magic still, but i've made no progress with it

ashen merlin Jan 24, 2024, 7:25 PM

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the variation in texture quality in the base game is kind of funny

ashen merlin Jan 24, 2024, 7:42 PM

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new sand texture in action

mint violet Jan 24, 2024, 7:43 PM

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ashen merlin new sand texture in action

Personally, as great as photo-real textures look, I feel like experimenting with painted stylized would look better.

ashen merlin Jan 24, 2024, 7:43 PM

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i don't have the skills for that, nor the time

mint violet Jan 24, 2024, 7:44 PM

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Realistically? Fair enough.

ashen merlin Jan 24, 2024, 7:44 PM

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i'm just pulling whatever royalty free textures i can from online for use here

mint violet Jan 24, 2024, 7:44 PM

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If it ever interests you, Substance Designer is great for this, and it is very very good for "handpainted" style textures without the handpainting.

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~~Also it is an insanely marketable skill, everyone wants Substance Designers nowadays~~

ashen merlin Jan 24, 2024, 7:45 PM

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plus finding a balance with something like the original art style would be pretty complex, not something i'd be able to nail on the first try

given that barnyard is very broken with Remix to begin with (replacements don't work, lights don't work, etc), this was never a real project for me

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it'll be my testing grounds to learn and improve, then i'll move on

ashen merlin Jan 24, 2024, 7:46 PM

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mint violet If it ever interests you, Substance Designer is great for this, and it is very v...

i'm using Quixel Mixer currently, can't afford SP. i'm looking forward to using InstaMat when that releases (today, i think)

mint violet Jan 24, 2024, 7:46 PM

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SD and SP are different software but I think Quixel Mixer is similar.

ashen merlin Jan 24, 2024, 7:46 PM

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it does some of both i believe

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i can't afford either of them though 😛

mint violet Jan 24, 2024, 7:47 PM

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Painter is the program for texturing models while Designer is the program to algorithmically create textures.

ashen merlin Jan 24, 2024, 7:47 PM

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anyway, i understand what you're saying and what you want from this project, but i can't deliver it. if someone wants a more cartoony style, they'll have to do it themselves

mint violet Jan 24, 2024, 7:47 PM

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ashen merlin anyway, i understand what you're saying and what you want from this project, but...

Sorry if it seemed like I was being pushy! I was under the impression you were handcreating realistic ones.

ashen merlin Jan 24, 2024, 7:48 PM

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i understand 😛

i am modifying existing textures. that sand texture is a combination of a few for example with some manual modifications to roughness, but i've not yet made any from scratch

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i do appreciate the constructive criticism though

haughty mauve Jan 24, 2024, 9:10 PM

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i remember this game having a day/night cycle, how does remix behave with it? does it changes the skylight to match?

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or is a static light? like is always mid-day?

ashen merlin Jan 24, 2024, 9:11 PM

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the sky changes, which is enough for it to look like day or night

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no sun or moon though, so there's no good looking shadows or anything 😦

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it's like studio lighting, light coming from all directions

haughty mauve Jan 24, 2024, 9:11 PM

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damm

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i am looking for a way to do some custom light for shar, since each level have different time of day skylight

ashen merlin Jan 24, 2024, 9:12 PM

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shar?

haughty mauve Jan 24, 2024, 9:12 PM

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simpsons hit & run

ashen merlin Jan 24, 2024, 9:12 PM

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ah

haughty mauve Jan 24, 2024, 9:13 PM

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btw, barnyard is looking good, good job kim

ashen merlin Jan 24, 2024, 9:13 PM

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well, that game is very stable with Remix (unlike this one). i imagine you could implement a skybox using this method: #general-remix message

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@dense wasp didn't you put like a holepunch in your skybox mesh to imitate a sun?

vivid falcon Jan 24, 2024, 9:21 PM

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ashen merlin <@780862799798468648> didn't you put like a holepunch in your skybox mesh to imi...

I might mistaken, but I think that was for Chess Titans. In Chess Titans

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the sphere was added by replacements thus can't be marked as sky

ashen merlin Jan 24, 2024, 9:22 PM

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hm

dense wasp Jan 24, 2024, 9:48 PM

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ashen merlin hm

Yep what kamilkampfwagen said. You can't mark replacements as anything so I cut a hole into the sky to let the sun shine through. if you could mark your replacement as sky you wouldn't have to do that

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It's a tracked bug on github

ashen merlin Jan 24, 2024, 9:48 PM

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and it's not able to animate to simulate day/night cycle? 😦

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no hope for Barnyard. dead in the water

dense wasp Jan 24, 2024, 9:49 PM

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https://github.com/NVIDIAGameWorks/rtx-remix/issues/281

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Marking a mesh replacement as sky makes the mesh disappear · Issue...

Describe the bug Marking a mesh replacement as sky with bool remix_category:sky = 1 doesn't do anything. I posted my process on discord and Mark Henderson suggested I should add this as a bug h...

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We modded the game to add a rotating mesh and marked that as sky

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Attached a light and presto

ashen merlin Jan 24, 2024, 9:50 PM

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if you can rotate it, sounds good. afaik it's possible to add a mesh in base Barnyard, but not animate it currently. i imagine that'll be a long time

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@haughty mauve this info is pertinent to your SHAR journey

dense wasp Jan 24, 2024, 9:50 PM

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We did it with level script

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You could spawn objects and move them around

ashen merlin Jan 24, 2024, 9:51 PM

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sounds handy

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i bet you could make a giant floating ak47 that shoots all enemies

dense wasp Jan 24, 2024, 9:52 PM

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Nothing like that in barnyard?

ashen merlin Jan 24, 2024, 9:52 PM

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nothing that i know of

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Barnyard is a mess. Adam said the code has more deadends than he's ever seen too, lol

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there's a WIP decompilation, i should probably wait a few years until that's complete (or much further in development) to continue this game

dense wasp Jan 24, 2024, 9:53 PM

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I also did a thing where we opened the compiled d3dbsp maps. It's all ASCII stuff but at the end every object is listed in plain English so I swapped a crate for a sphere and made it huge. Could try something like that

haughty mauve Jan 24, 2024, 9:53 PM

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interesting, i think it could work for now. but probably for hit & run would be more useful if remix had a option to change the distant light settings based on something loaded. like i could make the distant light be darker in night levels if remix detect a mesh that is only available on night levels.

dense wasp Jan 24, 2024, 9:55 PM

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You could attach a sky mesh to an object like that

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And a direct light to that mesh

vivid falcon Jan 24, 2024, 9:55 PM

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@ashen merlin I remember Barnyard needs fused world view mode set to view transform, am I right?

ashen merlin Jan 24, 2024, 9:56 PM

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iirc yes

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hang on

vivid falcon Jan 24, 2024, 9:56 PM

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That's shame

ashen merlin Jan 24, 2024, 9:56 PM

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i don't even understand how it works

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you have insider knowledge? 😛

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initially it did need it, but i figured out how to work around it (turning off Use World Transforms fixes it). there's an odd visual bug with Capture Normals from Shader being enabled too, so that's off

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still interested in knowing how that setting works though

vivid falcon Jan 24, 2024, 9:59 PM

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I made a small python module and a small patch for dxvk-remix some time ago, for editing rtxOptions in real time. Then used it to animate the fallback light in SuperTuxKart #showcase message
However fallback lights follow the camera in fused world view mode. I don't know if it has to be this way, but I think having a option to animate the fallback light in remix would be a decent solution to this

ashen merlin Jan 24, 2024, 10:01 PM

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yeah, that'd be a great intermediary solution

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i still can't figure out why the sun or moon showing up in-game causes any decals or overlays to appear

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weary yoke Jan 24, 2024, 10:06 PM

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ashen merlin

It’s tied with the capsule shadows I think

ashen merlin Jan 24, 2024, 10:06 PM

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it also causes the fake "light" effect on windows to appear at nighttime

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it only works sometimes though

vivid falcon Jan 24, 2024, 10:06 PM

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Is auto sky detection on

ashen merlin Jan 24, 2024, 10:07 PM

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like here

ashen merlin Jan 24, 2024, 10:07 PM

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vivid falcon Is auto sky detection on

i've messed with it a ton, it doesn't change anything unfortunately

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it's off here though

vivid falcon Jan 24, 2024, 10:07 PM

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Ah it was causing somewhat similar issue in swat 4

ashen merlin Jan 24, 2024, 10:08 PM

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weary yoke It’s tied with the capsule shadows I think

capsule shadows, meaning the fake shadows under the player? i did hide that texture, that's where it's showing up. early on in this game, it wasn't white like above. instead it'd just show the fake shadow again under the player

vivid falcon Jan 24, 2024, 10:16 PM

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I thought those were raster

ashen merlin Jan 24, 2024, 10:18 PM

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i'm confused

rugged forum Jan 24, 2024, 10:36 PM

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ashen merlin new sand texture in action

Ooh that looks really nice

ashen merlin Jan 25, 2024, 7:56 PM

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@weary yoke did you happen to make any progress with this?

weary yoke Jan 25, 2024, 8:01 PM

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Nope

ashen merlin Jan 25, 2024, 8:04 PM

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i think i'll finish up the barnyard area and move onto another game then

ashen merlin Jan 25, 2024, 11:11 PM

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rugged forum Ooh that looks really nice

have you had a chance to try the pack i sent?

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rugged forum Jan 25, 2024, 11:12 PM

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ashen merlin have you had a chance to try the pack i sent?

No I've been on holidays and haven't had much time to get around to it

ashen merlin Jan 26, 2024, 12:13 AM

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@hallow root

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i can definitely see the issue with the 3rd one

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these 3 are all meant to be next to each other in-game

hallow root Jan 26, 2024, 12:15 AM

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Righto! Let's see here

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So the issue was what exactly? The lighting across them looked vastly different?

ashen merlin Jan 26, 2024, 12:17 AM

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yeah, pretty much

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at certain times of day, they look perfect, but any other time and they look very off. some look shiny while others look much rougher

hallow root Jan 26, 2024, 12:18 AM

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Are they supposed to seamlessly connect to one another?

ashen merlin Jan 26, 2024, 12:18 AM

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they do connect to each other, but they're not really seamless due to the meshes

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i'll get some images

hallow root Jan 26, 2024, 12:18 AM

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Right

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I'm assuming the black top on number 3 doesn't connect to the others?

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Like, the lower part of 3 does yeah?

ashen merlin Jan 26, 2024, 12:19 AM

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correct, that blends into the grass

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the bottom is sand

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this is the albedo

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is there anything else i can do to make this clearer or easier to work with?

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this is 1 connecting to 3 (dirt road to road sides)

hallow root Jan 26, 2024, 12:25 AM

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Okay

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Try these

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The textures don't perfectly blend into one another at all so seams will always be there

ashen merlin Jan 26, 2024, 12:26 AM

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this one didn't send

hallow root Jan 26, 2024, 12:26 AM

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But I leveled their colour balance here a bit

ashen merlin Jan 26, 2024, 12:26 AM

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hallow root

ah, thank you!

hallow root Jan 26, 2024, 12:26 AM

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ashen merlin this one didn't send

I can tell you that this one right here has very little to do with the textures though

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This right here is caused by a normal seam in the geometry

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The polygons are just facing wildly different directions which will lead to this

ashen merlin Jan 26, 2024, 12:27 AM

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ah yeah, i'm not worried about that, i know it's from the mesh 😦

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but the reflectiveness of the texture vs the other one

hallow root Jan 26, 2024, 12:27 AM

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Righto! It didn't take much to balance them

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Should be better now

ashen merlin Jan 26, 2024, 12:28 AM

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is there a way i can balance them better in Mixer to begin with?

hallow root Jan 26, 2024, 12:29 AM

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KIND OF yes

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So when you add a new layer right, you have the different tabs for settings for the albedo and normal etc etc

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Under those tabs is a slider called "Match to underlying" if you increase that, it'll to try match it to whatever material is beneath it

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So if you make sure to have the same base material beneath all three as you work on them, you can use that slider to match to underlying

ashen merlin Jan 26, 2024, 12:33 AM

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hmmm

ashen merlin Jan 26, 2024, 12:33 AM

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hallow root So if you make sure to have the same base material beneath all three as you work...

that's actually what i was doing! i'm not sure how it turned out so differently in that case

hallow root Jan 26, 2024, 12:34 AM

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ashen merlin that's actually what i was doing! i'm not sure how it turned out so differently ...

Interesting, yeah sometimes the contrast etc of the base is too strong to match it to

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You can always enable the roughness preview in mixer and see what happens

ashen merlin Jan 26, 2024, 12:34 AM

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ashen merlin hmmm

okay, there. muuuch better

hallow root Jan 26, 2024, 12:35 AM

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Yeee look at that! Sweet!

ashen merlin Jan 26, 2024, 12:35 AM

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ya, thanks 🙂

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so you adjusted color balance specifically? or would a simple curves luminosity adjustment work

hallow root Jan 26, 2024, 12:36 AM

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I use a curves editor!

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Basically just did something similar to this

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To raise the brightness of things a little more to match with the first texture

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Not perfect by any means, but it's closer

ashen merlin Jan 26, 2024, 12:37 AM

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🙂 looks like what i had in mind

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and yeah, much better. definitely passable for this setup 😛

hallow root Jan 26, 2024, 12:37 AM

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https://tenor.com/view/thumbs-up-thumbs-up-gif-cat-thumb-cat-kawaii-gif-26916228

Tenor

young girder Jan 27, 2024, 10:17 AM

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The fact that anyone is trying to RTRemix this game at all is pretty funny

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keep up the good work though

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The prospect of seeing raytraced udders makes me shudder

young girder Jan 27, 2024, 10:47 AM

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in excitement

ashen merlin Jan 27, 2024, 11:29 PM

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young girder The fact that anyone is trying to RTRemix this game at all is pretty funny

yeah, lol. it's just a game i loved as a kid, so it seemed like an ideal project 🙂

vague drum Jan 28, 2024, 10:54 AM

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cow GTA is a childhood favorite of mine as well, so to see it when i joined the server gave me a bit of whiplash

ashen merlin Jan 29, 2024, 11:10 PM

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made more progress yesterday

ashen merlin Jan 30, 2024, 1:36 AM

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replaced the tire tracks

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WIP new puddles. they're a pain to get looking right

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a replacement mesh would go a long way with this in particular

rugged forum Jan 30, 2024, 1:48 AM

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I'd love to do some work on Barnyard again but my toolkit is broken 😦

rugged forum Jan 30, 2024, 8:09 AM

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I'd love to go over and redo a lot of the textures considering the tools I have now and the fact that the normal maps aren't even normal maps

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But without the ingestion of the toolkit I just don't have the motivation

rugged forum Jan 30, 2024, 1:30 PM

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ashen merlin Jan 31, 2024, 7:34 PM

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i love textures that are tiled absolutely horribly

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the original one only looks okay because it was so blurry, lol

ashen merlin Feb 1, 2024, 6:23 PM

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uuuuuuuuuugh what do i do

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i don't think i can fix that

hallow root Feb 1, 2024, 6:24 PM

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ashen merlin uuuuuuuuuugh what do i do

Mesh replacment with a new UV is the only way

ashen merlin Feb 1, 2024, 6:24 PM

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yeah, no hope then

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i'll just remaster the wood part i guess, lol

hallow root Feb 1, 2024, 6:24 PM

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Hashes not stable?

ashen merlin Feb 1, 2024, 6:25 PM

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they are. this game is just terribly bugged with Remix. replacements follow the player camera around instead of being anchored to the original mesh

hallow root Feb 1, 2024, 6:25 PM

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oooh right yeah I read that somewhere

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Weird stuff!

ashen merlin Feb 1, 2024, 6:25 PM

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indeed 😛

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it was spooky seeing my first lamp replacement stuck inside the main character's head

hallow root Feb 1, 2024, 6:26 PM

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Sounds like they were just having a bright idea to me!

ashen merlin Feb 1, 2024, 6:27 PM

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ashen merlin i love textures that are tiled absolutely horribly

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restarting the toolkit fixed it

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@hallow root do you have any tips for applying labels and having them look appropriately worn?

hallow root Feb 1, 2024, 6:28 PM

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2 layers

ashen merlin Feb 1, 2024, 6:28 PM

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hopefully one day i can pay back all of these requests for help, lol

hallow root Feb 1, 2024, 6:29 PM

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Top layer: The label itself
BOttom layer: Scrappy glue paper layer

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Slowly erase parts of top layer

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Victory

ashen merlin Feb 1, 2024, 6:29 PM

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that's smart 🙂

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will try, thanks

hallow root Feb 1, 2024, 6:29 PM

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🫡

ashen merlin Feb 1, 2024, 9:37 PM

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labels

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hooray

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all of that work for what i think was just one pole, lol

ashen merlin Feb 1, 2024, 10:25 PM

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added some grime. looks a tiny bit more natural now

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still learning how to apply it best though

dense wasp Feb 1, 2024, 10:30 PM

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Looks sick, nice one

ashen merlin Feb 2, 2024, 12:01 AM

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hmm. if i can get it in bounds (surprisingly annoying), would this look okay overall?

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they were originally puddles, but imo it really makes more sense for them to be mud?

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got them color matched to the original. not sure how i feel about it

ashen merlin Feb 2, 2024, 12:59 AM

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new floor, how is it?

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it has lots of scuffs and dirt

hallow root Feb 2, 2024, 1:04 AM

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ashen merlin got them color matched to the original. not sure how i feel about it

Doesn't make much sense to me that sand would transition into mud so suddenly?

hallow root Feb 2, 2024, 1:04 AM

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ashen merlin new floor, how is it?

This looks very pretty though ^^

ashen merlin Feb 2, 2024, 1:09 AM

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hallow root Doesn't make much sense to me that sand would transition into mud so suddenly?

yeah, i dunno. it's really weird, and the meshes really don't help. in the original game, the puddles looked like this:

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so i guess i'll go with puddles. unfortunately it just ghosts a ton and due to the non-functioning sun, it looks ultra bright at most angles

hallow root Feb 2, 2024, 1:10 AM

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depositphotos_47693281-stock-video-water-puddle-absorbed-by-sand.png

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Seems about right to me!

ashen merlin Feb 2, 2024, 1:10 AM

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hm. okay, well thank you 🙂

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lmao. guess Remix bugged out

hallow root Feb 2, 2024, 1:10 AM

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You could always try this approach

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Darken the albedo around the puddle a bit

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Gives a more natural transition

ashen merlin Feb 2, 2024, 1:11 AM

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good idea. i'll see if i can do that

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hm

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can't find a way to make a smooth blend between materials in instamat 😦

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using a mask like so doesn't work, and i can't find an alternative?

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ah okay, i found it. needed to use the non-height type

ashen merlin Feb 2, 2024, 1:50 AM

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hallow root

this wasn't the best attempt, but it unfortunately demonstrates why i can't do it. i made sure my texture doesn't overflow the edges as to blend in properly, yet it still looks like this. most of the meshes for the puddles seem to do it to different amounts, and it looks terrible 😦

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uuuugh what keeps happening

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wow

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guess it's tilling me to give up for tonight

hallow root Feb 2, 2024, 1:56 AM

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ashen merlin this wasn't the best attempt, but it unfortunately demonstrates why i can't do i...

This just means that the puddle plane mesh doesn't actually use the full 1-0 UV space

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If you export that specific model into a modelling tool and look at the UV map you'll see it only occupies a smaller space on it

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So you'll want to adjust your texture to fit into that space

ashen merlin Feb 2, 2024, 1:56 AM

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i can't adjust it to fit each mesh all at the same time though 😦

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there's like 7 of these and they're all different

hallow root Feb 2, 2024, 1:57 AM

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But those different meshes would've still been bound by the original textures layout though

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So if you fix it for one, and the others use the same texture, that should take care of those too

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Unless it's a sheet texture

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IN which case it'll be a bit more work, but should be fine too

ashen merlin Feb 2, 2024, 1:58 AM

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hallow root But those different meshes would've still been bound by the original textures la...

the original texture had a decent amount of space around the edges to account for it, i think. it looks okay in regards to the meshes when i keep the main changes within the puddle border, but if i go out of that at all it causes issues

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this is the original

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editing anything on those edges causes the issues

hallow root Feb 2, 2024, 1:59 AM

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ashen merlin the original texture had a decent amount of space around the edges to account fo...

Yeah that makes completely sense, you'll want to make sure you stick to those borders then!

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So if you want a transition, I'd create that inwards, rather than outwards

ashen merlin Feb 2, 2024, 2:00 AM

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i'll see if i can do that naturally right on the mesh edges. the meshes are pretty deep and are very polygonal, so i think it'll look pretty odd no matter what i do 😦

hallow root Feb 2, 2024, 2:01 AM

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If you export the meshes and render a UV template you'll have a much easier time working around those limitations

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Very handy to see where the polies are

ashen merlin Feb 2, 2024, 2:01 AM

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this is the way it's mapped (i think)

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this is just one of course

hallow root Feb 2, 2024, 2:02 AM

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Can't make any sense out of that haha, sorry

ashen merlin Feb 2, 2024, 2:04 AM

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lol, it's okay. it hurts my head just looking at it

hallow root Feb 2, 2024, 2:05 AM

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linkSalute

ashen merlin Feb 2, 2024, 2:23 AM

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i'm pretty happy 🙂

rugged forum Feb 2, 2024, 2:33 AM

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That looks great 👍

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Did you use the image to material in InstaMat?

ashen merlin Feb 2, 2024, 2:37 AM

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that's a totally new replacement material. it's one of the smart materials included in InstaMAT that i modified a decent amount

rugged forum Feb 2, 2024, 5:20 AM

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I'd like to see how that is done

ashen merlin Feb 2, 2024, 9:19 AM

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i can post it tomorrow

ashen merlin Feb 3, 2024, 2:33 AM

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mm it's a little bit messy, to the point where me posting it would probably make it more confusing

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basically i used one of their built-in materials, exposed some of the input parameters to customize it, added some custom grime on top of it, recolored it, and exported it

rugged forum Feb 3, 2024, 2:40 AM

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What built in material did you use?

ashen merlin Feb 3, 2024, 2:42 AM

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"Laminated Wood Worn"

ashen merlin Feb 6, 2024, 1:18 AM

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well that's nice

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Barnyard won't launch with Remix at all on my new install of Windows

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yep, won't work

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i'm not doing another Windows install to fix this, so this project is dead

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i ran into this issue before and the only way to fix it was a fresh Windows install

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i posted an issue on github. if that doesn't go anywhere, i'll share my current progress and someone else can continue it

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https://cloud.kim2091.art/index.php/s/89szTsoNxibQsYD

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vivid falcon Feb 6, 2024, 6:38 AM

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Huh

rugged forum Feb 6, 2024, 12:42 PM

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ashen merlin i posted an issue on github. if that doesn't go anywhere, i'll share my current ...

I'll probably use it when I get time to work on this

waxen pagoda Feb 21, 2024, 10:38 PM

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I've been seeing Barnyard_No_Sun.exe, what exactly is that?

weary inlet Feb 21, 2024, 11:00 PM

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maybe no lens flares from the sun? never played the game so I don't know

ashen merlin Feb 22, 2024, 12:08 AM

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waxen pagoda I've been seeing Barnyard_No_Sun.exe, what exactly is that?

it's a modified version of the main exe that removes the sun from the skybox to prevent some visual bugs. i have the patch available for it in the pinned messages in this channel, you can apply it using x32dbg

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(it makes no difference with the current bug report that prevents the game from launching)

waxen pagoda Feb 22, 2024, 12:14 AM

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Thanks for clarifying!

wicked holly Feb 22, 2024, 7:47 AM

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My childhood game gets rtx man thanks

weary inlet Feb 22, 2024, 8:35 AM

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~~you still come off as a child~~

edgy shard Feb 22, 2024, 11:41 AM

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ashen merlin Barnyard won't launch with Remix at all on my new install of Windows

does it start without remix and have you tried windowed mode?
https://www.pcgamingwiki.com/wiki/Barnyard#Windowed

ashen merlin Feb 22, 2024, 2:18 PM

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edgy shard does it start without remix and have you tried windowed mode? <https://www.pcgam...

i don't have a registry key in that location. i usually force windowed mode with dxwrapper

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the game does load without Remix

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i made the key, sadly the issue persists

ashen merlin Feb 28, 2024, 8:37 PM

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@vivid falcon btw in regards to the opacity performance stuff: https://github.com/NVIDIAGameWorks/rtx-remix/issues/394#issuecomment-1969740292

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All geometry rendered through shaders is marked as "opacity" · Issu...

Describe the bug This bug initially showed up in Barnyard, where I noticed that all geometry (characters, terrain, etc.) that was rendered with shaders is marked as "opacity". Using the O...

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apparently the specific type of transparency going on here wouldn't harm performance too much. not for the grass, but for all of the geometry in the scene

vivid falcon Feb 29, 2024, 6:02 AM

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ashen merlin apparently the specific type of transparency going on here wouldn't harm perform...

Yea, I think Mark already mentioned something like this regarding the hit shader won't be any slower if the texture is fully opaque anyway

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I am still curious where that horrible performance comes from, it is not just vertex shader capture.

waxen pagoda Mar 1, 2024, 1:15 AM

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ashen merlin i made the key, sadly the issue persists

Out of curiosity, is this behaviour limited to just Barnyard?

ashen merlin Mar 1, 2024, 1:26 AM

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waxen pagoda Out of curiosity, is this behaviour limited to just Barnyard?

do you mean the crashing issue? if so, yes

waxen pagoda Mar 1, 2024, 1:45 AM

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Thanks again for continuing to run tests, this has been is a particularly puzzling one.

ashen merlin Mar 1, 2024, 1:46 AM

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i'm sure it has. this behavior is extremely odd 😦

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i do really appreciate the support and quick responses on the issue 🙂

waxen pagoda Mar 1, 2024, 1:57 AM

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Another thing that has crossed my mind is, is the behaviour the same when you use d3d8to9 directly instead of through dxwrapper? https://github.com/crosire/d3d8to9/releases/download/v1.12.0/d3d8.dll

ashen merlin Mar 1, 2024, 2:02 AM

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waxen pagoda Another thing that has crossed my mind is, is the behaviour the same when you us...

interesting, it's not. it maxes out 2 cores (instead of just 1) and it almost immediately gives this error:

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it took about 6-7 minutes for that error to appear with dxwrapper

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you also suggested that i rename the cache file. i did so and reported back, but i've now noticed that no new file is generated to replace it

waxen pagoda Mar 1, 2024, 2:04 AM

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Any chance that there's any logs for this?

ashen merlin Mar 1, 2024, 2:05 AM

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📎 Barnyard_No_Sun_d3d9.log 📎 NvRemixBridge.log 📎 d3d9.log

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dxwrapper has the advantage of creating logs, unfortunately afaik d3d8to9 does not do this

waxen pagoda Mar 1, 2024, 2:09 AM

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This actually really interesting

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I think we can disable logAllCommands to reduce low much time we waste logging, I thought it might be an issue with the command/data queue, but that doesn't look like the case

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Oh just to make sure, if you delete the Barnyard_No_Sun_d3d9.log file, does it also come back (using d3d8to9)?

ashen merlin Mar 1, 2024, 2:32 AM

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yeah, these were just made actually

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@waxen pagoda thanks to your help, i think i just got it working!

something extremely odd is going on. there's a few things to note first:

i tested the original, unmodified game exe continuously each time i updated you guys on GitHub, but used the No_Sun version for reporting for consistency
i did test d3d8to9 earlier on and noticed no differences, but hadn't used it for a while now
i did a fresh driver install last week for RTX HDR testing
Windows just updated today

so now: launching the game with any exe other than the original crashes it, even without Remix or a wrapper installed, and i have no idea why. the other exes i'm referring to are modified exes (using established hex edits) that increase the resolution of the game up from the base 800x600. on the old Windows 11 install i had, they all worked perfectly, Remix or otherwise

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here are the logs for when it functions properly (including a dxwrapper log)

📎 d3d9.log 📎 Barnyard_d3d9.log 📎 dxwrapper-barnyard.log 📎 NvRemixBridge.log

waxen pagoda Mar 1, 2024, 2:47 AM

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Have you also been doing something like using the community made launcher/downloader to update the remix binaries? or have those been static?

ashen merlin Mar 1, 2024, 2:47 AM

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you mean the updater in #remix-beginners-guide? i only updated when you guys asked me to on the github post, otherwise it remained the way it was

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i downloaded and installed each update manually

waxen pagoda Mar 1, 2024, 2:49 AM

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Awesome, just wanted to check if it was potentially some fix that got pushed in

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As a small aside, I had to recently freshly install Windows 11 on a machine, and had to install the DirextX End-User Runtime from Microsoft to get a simple dx9 application running. The error looked distinct from what you are seeing, but I wanted to share just in case. https://www.microsoft.com/en-gb/download/details.aspx?id=35

Microsoft Store - Download Center

Download DirectX End-User Runtime from Official Microsoft Download ...

The Microsoft DirectX® End-User Runtime installs a number of runtime libraries from the legacy DirectX SDK for some games that use D3DX9, D3DX10, D3DX11, XAudio 2.7, XInput 1.3, XACT, and/or Managed DirectX 1.1. Note that this package does not modify the DirectX Runtime installed on your Windows OS in any way.

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Considering Barnyard ran just fine on it's own before, I don't think it's related.

ashen merlin Mar 1, 2024, 3:06 AM

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yeah, unlikely but still interesting. i had no idea they separated it with W11. the description on that page even reflects that

thanks for that, that'll help going forward 🙂

ashen merlin Mar 1, 2024, 5:03 AM

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@waxen pagoda re-running the game setup with freshly a modified game exe (the original ones just refuse to work for seemingly no reason) works fine now. i have no idea what went wrong, it makes no sense at all still. thankfully it does seem to have been unrelated to Remix the entire time. i'm very sorry for how much time was spent troubleshooting it, but i also appreciate your guys' efforts

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i'll wait for your response before closing the issue, though i think it should be at this point

rugged forum Mar 1, 2024, 5:03 AM

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Barnyard is working again?

ashen merlin Mar 1, 2024, 5:05 AM

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yes 🙂

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it's so smooth on a 4090, lol

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and i'm happy to report that frame gen works without issue

rugged forum Mar 1, 2024, 5:08 AM

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When did you get a 4090?

ashen merlin Mar 1, 2024, 5:08 AM

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about 2 weeks ago

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very grateful to have it

rugged forum Mar 1, 2024, 5:10 AM

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ashen merlin yes 🙂

why is it dx11?

ashen merlin Mar 1, 2024, 5:11 AM

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just misreported

clear silo Mar 1, 2024, 5:17 AM

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I never thought I'd see someone running barnyard with a 4090 lmao

tame flume Mar 1, 2024, 5:46 AM

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clear silo I never thought I'd see someone running barnyard with a 4090 lmao

ashen merlin Mar 1, 2024, 5:46 AM

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lol yeah. pretty ridiculous

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buut it's beautiful with the new materials

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woooooooooooooooooow

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it's fixed

rugged forum Mar 1, 2024, 5:54 AM

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what is?

ashen merlin Mar 1, 2024, 5:55 AM

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we can have the sun/moon now without artifacts on the player or buildings

rugged forum Mar 1, 2024, 5:55 AM

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What happened to the coins?

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at the top right?

ashen merlin Mar 1, 2024, 5:56 AM

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that's a side effect that i can probably fix

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proper high(er) res shot of the new materials

rugged forum Mar 1, 2024, 5:57 AM

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I forgot how nice you made the 'sand' or 'dirt'

#Barnyard