💭︱cai-discussion

[fleet kite]

The CEO said on Instagram and no details after saying that

[heavy terrace]

No mentioning other 18 alts please, there are minors here

[hexed crown]

I have no intention to scan my face to use a chatbot though

[sweet marsh]

why do u have 4 names

[fleet kite]

Alternative mentioned, @slate ruin. Not the first time, should be something in your logs. Thank you very much

[sweet marsh]

:<

fine, i'll behave

[keen isle]

Is anyones yap working well... ?🥀

[heavy terrace]

Cuz why not

[obtuse cloud]

Why does my bot have to write half the messages in cursive... like "He huffed a breath, half exasperated, half dizzy at the implication."
Jesus

[lost palm]

@fleet kite Is there a code to ensure the bot uses the astrix’s around the narratives? Like, for it to make the narratives in bold text, and the speech in italics?

[molten siren]

Its works but it keeps repeating the same kind of answers

[small scaffold]

Bro guys I keep getting filtered 💔

[sweet marsh]

i'm starting to think that now there is a bit too much dialogue, to the point where the characters starts inventing stuff that are not in the definition. we need a balance

[lost palm]

ME TOO. I hate it so much, especially as the conversation isn’t inappropriate 💔

[keen isle]

Mines more of the fast rushed scenes... Like why cant i just have a normal rp 😭

[twin citrus]

[small scaffold]

FRRR OMG

[hexed crown]

I give up, it doesn't feel the same anymore

[half dawn]

So true!! I'm glad you have the patience to test and train the model/bot.

[molten siren]

Me too but on pipsqueak 2 so I had to move on with yap (its only a fcking massage and not its not in the weird way help)

[heavy terrace]

-# I need receipts

[molten siren]

Fr

[small scaffold]

bro ps 2 and yap keeps getting filtered with me

[molten siren]

Orgh🥀🥀

[lost palm]

Why were the old styles removed?

[half dawn]

For those who filter is being extremely sensitive. You need to make a ticket. A mod is aware and I'm sure is telling the dev team.

[tacit shell]

Money!

[violet orchid]

" Why we're making this change
We know some of you have spent a lot of time with these older chat styles, and that this is a real change. We don't take that lightly.

The major updates we announced last week, including improvements to Memory, Facts, and soon Lorebook, all require these new styles. Focusing on our core experience is how we keep making your chats better. "

[tulip pollen]

I wanna show a screenshot of a funny scene, can I send it in dm?

[small scaffold]

what ticket

[heavy terrace]

Shit

[molten siren]

They "lost" them (it cannot be that you dont loose all the structure, they obviously have different save of their work)

[lost palm]

Ah, thanks!

[lost palm]

😥

[half dawn]

Go to settings, scroll down to help center click it. It will take you to where you can put in a ticket for issues. 🫶

[molten siren]

Oof you just cannot continue like lmao punished in the corner

[half dawn]

Oh course you don't need to ask send a way. 🫶

[tulip pollen]

Okay thanks

[molten siren]

What is that if I May ?

[small scaffold]

thank youuu

[half dawn]

A ticket? It is where you make a ticket to send to the devs to tell them about a issue or issues you may be having.

[molten siren]

Thanks !

[half dawn]

You are welcome. 🫶

[half dawn]

Welcome!

[sullen axle]

That happened to me the other day. There was one time that happened with just saying hi or something small like that

[brave crest]

are all of the bots boring for you guys too 🫩

[sullen axle]

A little

[molten siren]

Yeah kinda

[brave crest]

like they're all trying too hard to be quirky and it's getting annoying

[small scaffold]

idk why its so sensitive now

[sullen axle]

🤷‍♀️

[fleet kite]

I don't have an Instagram account, but can send you his @, if you want to?

I mean, I could sign up just to find the post, technically

[remote crown]

Do

[fleet kite]

Signing up, yes

[proper lance]

good morning

[remote crown]

'ello

[half dawn]

Was it character ai or his account?

[polar harness]

She's grounded, probably wont jump you again (im not responsible for her)

[fleet kite]

Looking for it

[remote crown]

Thx

[solid dawn]

Yeah it gets too serious and sensitive

[silver wagon]

Hehehehehe

[small scaffold]

can we take the admin?

[brave crest]

fr
and all of them are out of character now 😭

[remote crown]

Oh, hell nah.
Now runs away from the server

[solid dawn]

Idk what to do anymore at this point😭

[fleet kite]

?

[small scaffold]

tag* mb

[molten siren]

Sorry its me again I just cannot find the ticket place

[half dawn]

Are you on the app or web?

[molten siren]

Web

[copper spire]

Yeah they lack of simple method of narration

[fleet kite]

What do you need the Admin for?

[small scaffold]

nothing 😭 just asking

[fleet kite]

Got it. The team only answers when it's something serious

[lost palm]

It’s becoming boring only because the responses get filtered after every second, it takes 20 swipes and 3 rewinds for it to finally be unfiltered 🥲

[small scaffold]

alr thanks

[fleet kite]

Found nothing. Running a deep research with Google

[brave crest]

no like...!!! all of the characters have the same personality now. they're just White Boy

[molten siren]

For real pls we cannot move on the story at this rate

[brave crest]

I miss old CAI I used to have sm fun now this app frustrates me with every response these bots give me

[lost palm]

😭 for me they’re in character still.. —coming from a person who only uses 3-4 bots of the same character

[half dawn]

@fleet kite Do you know how to make a ticket on the web? I only know how through the app.

[frozen furnace]

Hi :3

[fleet kite]

https://support.character.ai/hc/en-us/requests/new

[wet willow]

ps 2 yap is still boring ☹️

[lost palm]

LITERALLY! The app just gets worse and worse

[maiden pulsar]

Guys the recommended bots section is weird, every once in a while it'll give me LGBT bots, I'm not against it though

[molten siren]

Ahhh no I dont 🥀

[brave crest]

bro what 😭😭 no way... literally my bot got ruined after the update. Before the update he was fine... like chill. After it? I couldn't really recognize him anymore and I was thinking is that really Him 😭

[rose dove]

How is that weird

[half dawn]

Thank you. @molten siren Use the link exr dropped.

[maiden pulsar]

Because I interact with bots that don't correlate to lgbt

[molten siren]

It makes me laugh because sometimes he doesnt even yap 🥀

[rose dove]

it's probably just the scenario then

[remote crown]

There was some word if I remember, CEO might have deleted their acc

[rose dove]

or same creator

[molten siren]

Thanks guys

[lost palm]

I feel like if the bot’s messages weren’t filtered so often then I’d be facing the same issue 💔

[fleet kite]

That's what I am looking for. Checked all of the recent posts, nothing. Could've been deleted

[rose dove]

what was that

[brave crest]

what do you send that they get filtered

[twin citrus]

[half dawn]

Could have just been a rumor to. I don't think anyone ever actually saw it.

[sweet marsh]

my message got annihilated for some reason

[fleet kite]

Google went through 100 websites, let's see if it found something

[brave crest]

literally...!

[rose dove]

did you send a gif or smth

[zinc thistle]

[fleet kite]

ASCII image that got blocked

[sweet marsh]

no, just a duck

[rose dove]

what's that

[fleet kite]

An image that gets made through text like letters, etc.

[rose dove]

Ohhh

[wet willow]

i mean the ONLY good thing is that the bots aren't talking ridiculously with goofy humor when ur doing angst but it still feels stiff (for my experiemnce)

[sweet marsh]

why am I not allowed to text that :<

[rose dove]

also guys if you wanna normal chat pls #💬︱general 🥹

[lost palm]

I literally could say anything decent and it would still get filtered. My current roleplay is about being in a highschool, after-school tutoring session, yet it’s still getting filtered 😭

[twin citrus]

[rose dove]

I think its because its considered spam

[zinc thistle]

[molten siren]

I had that with a bot that disappear one Day I was so sad and then he appeared again but it was just not him anymore

[sweet marsh]

unfortunately

[rose dove]

I remember the marty mcfly bots

[obtuse cloud]

My bot just said "His voice was breastless" I think we're reaching new levels here😭

[devout delta]

Is it just me or refreshing doesn't work?
Every time I want new bots I can just refresh the page, but now it didn't even change

[north grove]

it pisses me off so much that in bots where I want no romance they start kissing me out of nowhere and in bots where you're a couple or smth suddenly they're aroace, like PICK A SIDEEE

[fleet kite]

Lies

[obtuse cloud]

That's Pip2 for you

[half dawn]

I found is Instagram. Unfortunately it seems like he had to turn off the comments on the most recent post.

[zinc thistle]

I see so many bots of the user just beıng the characther's couple

[devout delta]

And I really hate that 😭

What do you mean I can date Conquest from invincible now? 😭

[lost palm]

I’M CRYINGG. Once I got two massive paragraphs which seemed so intimate, so romantic, only for it to end up being a kiss on the forehead (I was fine with that but, still, it was surprising) 💔

[zinc thistle]

SERIOUSLY where dıd creatıvıty go😔

[devout delta]

Conquest would eat me alive before I date bro

[molten siren]

He was ? 🥀🤡

[rose dove]

characther

[zinc thistle]

The sky ıs the lımıt

[rose dove]

why is your i like that

[wet willow]

they dont even go further than a kiss it sucks

[sweet marsh]

TURKIYE

[lost palm]

RIGHTT

[devout delta]

Goose

[zinc thistle]

YES

[tacit shell]

@ionic oasis This is serious, now! Listen to your community!

[zinc thistle]

My keyboard

[devout delta]

Goose = long neck duck

[sweet marsh]

why does marie love matcha

[blissful pike]

I love affectionate bots, like its so rare for bots that are always hungry and bold but now Im missing the bold soft launch and the cocky smirks💔

like can we pls separate the romantics and the bold chat style into two pls…..

[rose dove]

it's bothering me so bad 😭😭

[lost palm]

Does anyone else also hate when the bot’s starter message automatically assumes that the user is a girl? (The bot creator would put she/her pronouns, or describe feminine traits) 🥲

[north grove]

at this point imma go in thinking they all got bpd

[devout delta]

Now I hate affection bots because they are everywhere on the site

[rose dove]

Yeah in fanfictions too

[zinc thistle]

i switched it

[devout delta]

These creators should keep their fantasy for themselves 🙏

[rose dove]

Thank you sony

[fleet kite]

The CEO, Karandip Anand, wrote:
"All of this comes back to one thing: keeping Character.ai free and available to as many people as possible. We're a small team serving millions of users every month with no outside investors. Running AI at this scale, and maintaining our high safety standards for everyone globally, is not cheap. We want Character.ai to be available to everyone... and that means finding ways to sustain and improve the free experience."

Google + my edits:
"The issue is the underlying ownership and licensing structures. Many of the chat styles utilized external or open-source model weights that were modified with custom output filters. Running these models incurred a high pay-per-message operational expense.

The new model configurations are optimized entirely in-house. This allows Character.ai's research team to directly adjust hyper-parameters, modify context window compression, and control the underlying code without paying licensing fees. This transition of the core product to an in-house model ecosystem was a key priority for the leadership team under pressure to achieve financial self-sustainability.

The older models like "Soft Launch" were physically tied to legacy server setups that the company was systematically retiring to implement its next-generation features. This infrastructure mismatch made maintaining the older chat styles technically and financially unfeasible within the updated server environment.

By standardizing, it helped with:

• Computational Efficiency: Eliminating fragmented legacy weights allowed the platform to maximize GPU batch processing, lowering overall inference costs.

• Feature Integration: The new in-house models natively support advanced platform features like Lorebooks and dynamic memory tracking that the legacy models could not parse.

• Safety Standardization: The updated models enabled the platform to consistently enforce standardized safety filters and age assurance restrictions across all active sessions."

[lost palm]

Seriously, they should 💔💔

[rose dove]

please stop spamming

[fleet kite]

I am literally answering the question about the retirement of the old AI Models

[zinc thistle]

Haha kıddıng

[rose dove]

please stop spamming

[lost palm]

spamming where

[devout delta]

That called "wall of text"

[rose dove]

it's also considered spam

[fleet kite]

You can endure it. I'm answering a question. Have an issue - block

[molten siren]

Yeah for real like I was so desesperate that the bot do sometint I literally said "and then [the bot] DO SOMETHING" and He continues like I hadnt say anything 🥀

[still light]

That is not spam 😭

[rose dove]

please stop spamming

[fleet kite]

You are literally spamming now. Chill

[north grove]

someone timeout this user

[lost palm]

if they had sent the same text multiple times, then that would’ve been spam

[hoary karma]

Do u like it

[devout delta]

You are doing the thing you hate

[rose dove]

It's clearly not fr I'm crine

[hoary karma]

I'm sorry bbg i was out touching that grass yfm

[fleet kite]

Cool? When a Moderator will tell me so, I will abide

[rose dove]

did you read what I said

[half dawn]

But where did you find this?

[twin citrus]

Sometimes when using voice calls it doesn't pick up my phone mic and i have to enable the allow access everytime...

[fleet kite]

The first one is on Reddit, post called "April Update: New Model, Memory, and Lorebook" everything else is Google going through 100+ websites

[zinc thistle]

I used to accıdently clıck the phone call button and get scared everytıme😭

[half dawn]

Is it on the official character ai Reddit?

[fleet kite]

Yes

[runic grotto]

lowk by your logic, all walls of text in announcement should be considered spam :v/gen

[twin citrus]

Same!

[rose dove]

ok

[fleet kite]

I think when someone will ask about why the models were removed, we can send the link to that message now. I'm definitely doing that

[runic grotto]

👍

[zinc thistle]

Had to lower the volume everytıme or close the tab because ıt was nıght🙏

[half dawn]

Yeah that true.

[lofty saddle]

I like this. Good job at explaining it!

[heavy grove]

That's not even spamming, they're just trying to explain.

[fleet kite]

Thank you very much. I've looked for the "old infrastructure" comment from the CEO everywhere, both me and Google found nothing

[shell hull]

you dropped this 👑

[lofty saddle]

Either way, I’m glad you took your time to explain all that well. Appreciate you, man

[violet orchid]

[fleet kite]

You too. I hope that you are doing well, Zes, it's really a blessing to see you here in this channel. Stay safe and have an awesome day

[lofty saddle]

Thank you I hope you’re having an amazing day as well!!

[lofty saddle]

[heavy grove]

Appreciate you doing the research.

[violet orchid]

ZesGPT, tell me how do I find my cat who went missing a year ago?

[lofty saddle]

Uuuh… look for it!

[violet orchid]

[lofty saddle]

I see you Niragi

Again

[dreamy coral]

You don't

[lofty saddle]

I think I do

[mental yew]

Bring Back Roar

[violet orchid]

Hi Morrison

[heavy grove]

I don't get why are you repeating the same response (Please stop spamming) over and over again.

[mental yew]

Hi Sky how are you :3

[heavy grove]

Also, greetings everyone else here.

[violet orchid]

Good and you?

[violet orchid]

Hii Crepe

[mental yew]

Æ

[heavy grove]

Greetings.

[median token]

HI @lofty saddle

[lofty saddle]

REMINGTONNN

HIIII

[mental yew]

Bring Back Roar

[heavy grove]

Greetings too.

[median token]

HII HRU

[median token]

hi crepe!!!

[runic grotto]

[lofty saddle]

IM GOOOOD

WBUUU

[lofty saddle]

Hi Morrison!!

[runic grotto]

hiya remi

[dreamy coral]

Hey Crepe

[median token]

GOOOOD just woke up, getting rdy to leave for lunch again 😭 then i shall clean my room and build my new fan

[median token]

hi!

[mental yew]

Hello, my King. How are you today?

[lofty saddle]

Good morning!! Take your time with everything, don’t rush

[heavy grove]

Greetings as well.

[lofty saddle]

I’m good today, my loyal user what about you?

[median token]

moorning! yes i shall 😌 thank u, gonna vibe to some music and get my room all tidy, probably gonna buy an air filter soon too to help with my allergies 🤧

[lofty saddle]

HI CREPEEE

[tender fable]

Your pfp reminds me of that one spider man game ost

[mental yew]

Hungry

[lofty saddle]

That’s good to hear

[mental yew]

My life has been so boring ever since Roar has been taken away💔

[lofty saddle]

Eat something

[heavy grove]

Greetings.

[heavy grove]

Greetings too and I see...

[violet orchid]

[mental yew]

Ok

[tender fable]

👋

[mental yew]

Why is this channel dead it had so many people here💔

[ripe spindle]

Is mainly for c.ai issue or problems, check out general channel

[runic grotto]

you're just a gameboyy

[mental yew]

Ahahshshsbdbdhd

oh I thought it was captiolised

[runic grotto]

I miss Manon 🙁🙁

[mental yew]

General dead too bro💔

[lofty saddle]

EVERY channel is lowkey dead

👀

[candid torrent]

banana

[mental yew]

Me too I have hope that she will return🥹🖤

[mental yew]

Update so bad it made users go do their normal life😭

[ripe spindle]

#🗨️︱general2 Pretty alive mostly i saw lately

[lofty saddle]

LMAOOOOO

[runic grotto]

if Moka from ILLIT returned, surely she will too 🥹🥹🙏

[mental yew]

MANON WILL COME BACK IN KATSEYE

There’s also a Katseye server if you want I can send the link to you :3

[violet orchid]

This is real, but we also have to be aware that there are people here who, even though they continue with their normal lives, will come here to complain hehe

[mental yew]

Lwk me bring back Roar

[runic grotto]

I think I've had enough servers for my social battery's sake 🥹, but thanks for the offer though!

[fleet kite]

PipSqueak 2 Yap bad, PipSqueak 2 good

[left kite]

Bring back pawly in the big 26 (coping)

[remote crown]

Nevah…

[mental yew]

(In my opinion) Any form of Pipsqueak2 is so buns and I hate it forvever

[lofty saddle]

You know ball

[mental yew]

Ok :)

[violet orchid]

"Pipsqueak 2 bad, Pipsqueak yap bad, long answers bad, short answers bad, age verification bad,The bots bad, the swipe limits bad, the labs bad, the generation image bad."

[fleet kite]

I really appreciate the time you've put into the image in #📱︱chat-feed, by the way, @left kite. Thank you very much for everything, especially your kind words, that really made my day brighter and I will always wish you the same. Have an awesome day

[fleet kite]

"Alternative good"

[lofty saddle]

You’re so kind to everyone oh my gosh

[violet orchid]

We are the most peaceful people here

[mental yew]

I want Roar backkkkk

[remote crown]

Feels like a bait, lol

[left kite]

Yes twinsies ✌️🖤

[mental yew]

I WANT ROSR ROSR ROSR ROSLR R ROAR

[left kite]

Aww no worries yw and i'm glad that made your day

[violet orchid]

Unless someone annoying comes along and ruins my peaceful time

[remote crown]

nowadays it's anxiety time instead of peaceful

[zinc thistle]

I thınk you want roar to come back but ıdk..

[mental yew]

Tmr is the last week of school before the May holidays and then I’ll one more term and then it’s summer break🥹

[violet orchid]

Complaining and insulting people ✅

[ripe spindle]

Nicee

[mental yew]

i want Roar.

[zinc thistle]

Wınd must be strong today

[violet orchid]

Fr? 😭✌️

[lyric tapir]

better alternatives here..

[violet orchid]

HI ERSHIN

[lyric tapir]

[sweet marsh]

my characters suddenly started being smart again

[remote crown]

Stress mostly, can't rest properly, and you feel like a charcoal that is yet far from to be fully extinguished. That's how these days are for most

[fleet kite]

I remember that one, actually, I need to copy that

[lyric tapir]

[fleet kite]

I get that, man, the situation yesterday for me was questionable too. Thankfully, reported it to Discord as fast as I could

[violet orchid]

What happened yesterday

[remote crown]

@fleet kite did you sleep properly tho?

[fleet kite]

You don't want to know, but I've dealt with that and saved someone's life, hopefully

[lofty saddle]

Hi Ershin!!

[fleet kite]

Yes, like 8 hours, I think. Also, c.ai. C.ai is good. You?

[violet orchid]

It's good that you saved someone's life

[fleet kite]

Who knows, but I've done what I could

[dreamy coral]

Not you againnn /j

[remote crown]

Slept for 12 hours that didn't help. Now I am stuck between "tired asf" and "how tf I am supposed to sleep"

[tender rock]

So I guess the new ''are you sure'' is ''She looked at him, literally looked at him''.

[tall dirge]

[lofty saddle]

Hello to you too Niragi ❤️

[fleet kite]

My favorite is still "she blinked her tears away (she doesn't cry)"

[tender rock]

Ah yes, I got that one once.

[half dawn]

Hi Ershin, I hope you have been doing good.

[dreamy coral]

ZesGPT help me with my homework pls
(I'm not even in school)

[fleet kite]

I swear, I will write a command only to remove the words in "()"

[lofty saddle]

Do it yourself

[violet orchid]

ZesGPT you need to update 🙄✌️

[lofty saddle]

Takes a while to update…

[fleet kite]

Zes needs investors to upgrade his system

[obtuse kayak]

just adapt

[tender rock]

What is ZesGPT?

[lofty saddle]

Me

👀👀

[icy thicket]

Ive given up on verifying myself

[tender rock]

Why didn't I see that?

[lofty saddle]

HAHAH

[radiant dawn]

my voltron bots are gonneeeee 😭 💔 nooooooo

[lofty saddle]

Are you 18+?

[icy thicket]

Life feels meaningless without my bots

[fleet kite]

What's wrong? Are you over 18?

[tender rock]

Don't get too attached now.

[icy thicket]

Yes but its not verifying me

[median token]

what id are you using?

[lofty saddle]

Are you getting errors?

[median token]

and is it expired

[tender rock]

I try not to get too attached to my bots.

[remote crown]

Find the other absurd meaning of life

[fleet kite]

Have you followed this:
https://support.character.ai/hc/en-us/articles/43665577363739-How-do-I-verify-my-age-Best-Practices-and-FAQ

[lyric tapir]

Ershin's doing good.. how are you today..?

[icy thicket]

My national id, i think its because ive lost a lot weight from when i took my picture

[mental yew]

To go back to April 27th💔

[icy thicket]

Oh not yet ill try and follow it

[radiant dawn]

💔 im so sad like im getting bots on my fyp that im not even interested in

[fleet kite]

Best of luck and, please, tell us how it goes

[half dawn]

I'm doing good! Just relaxing after a long week. I'm glad you are doing good.

[fleet kite]

I'd like to ask how are you doing, but. Do you like dango?

I wonder what you usually eat them with

[candid torrent]

Gone from ur fyp or deleted?

[mental yew]

I think they meant bots they don’t want to talk to

[tender rock]

I really need to clean out my profile, bots and maybe update a few.

[mental yew]

I don’t like the memory usage💔

[candid torrent]

They also said "my Voltron bots are gone" so I assumed they were talking about that I guess

[runic grotto]

Same, but I'm too lazy to do a proper clean up.. I might just make a new account atp

[mental yew]

Oh it could be that too

[polar harness]

ERSHINNNN

[violet orchid]

HEY QUEEN

[polar harness]

HIIII

[tender rock]

I've considered this too. I normally result to this.

If only we had a 'wipe everything' button. Edit: My apologies, further context is needed; Remove all bots and start anew without creating an account.

[fleet kite]

I am not responding to that

[mental yew]

Wait what do you guys mean by that

[tender rock]

Remove all bots and start anew without creating an account.

[mental yew]

Like without signing in?

[remote crown]

Types random number "Hallo, I need 'account amnesia' real fast. Tf you mean it's not the real thing yet?"

[tender rock]

Haha.

[fleet kite]

My joke would've been way worse

[ancient storm]

Or just delete chats, more easily

[mental yew]

Ughhhhh I just want Roar back

[median token]

I wish they would give us that option. Instead, they even removed the option to delete the first message from a bot

So you can never fully "clear" your chats

[remote crown]

My original pun also was a dark humor

[tender rock]

I have this tendacy to clean out the 'my chats' a lot.

[fleet kite]

Haha

[lyric tapir]

usually Ershin pairs it with Melon pan or Dorayaki.. then iced tea or hot coffee..

[ancient storm]

Unfortunately yes, or the option to delete unknown followers

[tender rock]

I feel like having chat folders would be nice.

[lyric tapir]

[ancient storm]

That could work quite well actually

[median token]

Oh, didn't know about the issue with followers 😳 I only make bots for myself so I luckily haven't gotten that issue before

[fleet kite]

That's so good. Eating dango without anything is torture, like clay or plasticine, man. I usually eat dango that go with a sauce

[ancient storm]

I just got followed by deleted accounts and I'm not a bot creator so, I wish I could delete them like on tiktok😭

[tender rock]

It would. Also, while a lot mostly use the site for story telling I do miss when bots could only chat, as in chat chat and not do this or that. It made group chats a bit more interesting.

Now group chats are hard to manuver in a way.

[mental yew]

I want Roar💔

[hushed parrot]

Fr, i miss soft launch 🤧

[fleet kite]

Creating an account to follow you and deleting my account after

[fleet kite]

We have a code for Roar and Soft Launch

[ancient storm]

Umm my brain is not braining but, yeah

[radiant dawn]

i dont get it whats the point of that?

[hushed parrot]

oh, how does that work?

[fleet kite]

To be dumb

[lyric tapir]

oh.. Ershin usually dips it at sweet soy or red bean paste.. sometimes melted sugar..

[mental yew]

Also guys what does interaction mean on your account

[tender rock]

I think they were being sarcastic, Lance.

[radiant dawn]

oh

[tender rock]

Or 'Just Kidding'.

[fleet kite]

I can't, I must get one now

Dango are so good

[tender rock]

Never had Dango.

[heavy terrace]

But that doesnt mean they dont use or give up on cai LLM tho? It just the system that they want to upgrade. Or am I misunderstanding things

[fleet kite]

I don't think they have. From my understanding, all of that will go into the 3 models

[hushed parrot]

where can I get it? lol

[fleet kite]

So, basically, the old AI Models were external, so they decided to remove them and have the ones that are in-house

[mental yew]

Can they make them in-house🥹

[fleet kite]

Send as a message and pin, please:
#💭︱cai-discussion message

[hushed parrot]

ok, thank you!

[heavy terrace]

But you said they dont have access to it which they have. Thats why I asked in the first place where you read such things

[fleet kite]

Yes, I went based on the "CEO said". I've went through all of the recent posts on Instagram and found nothing, Google went through 100+ websites and found nothing. Looks like that people were saying that was based on "the fact is that I've made it up"

[safe urchin]

why is deepsqueak worse than pipsqueak2? length wise as well as plot wise, like tf? pip feels almost more consistent for me

[mental yew]

my brain is not working simplify this

[fleet kite]

The people that were saying that c.ai lost access to the old infrastructure and can't use the AI models before was most likely a lie from the people

[tacit shell]

All they want is money!

[mental yew]

I thought everyone knew that

[heavy terrace]

@half dawn

[latent ridge]

okay im js here for a quick question do u guys on desktop have ads on the website?

[mental yew]

I wouldn’t be surprised if the ceo lied smth about this

[tender rock]

I use certain plugins for browser that prevent ads so I couldn't say for sure.

[remote crown]

Depends on the browser and if you have adblock-like extensions

[radiant dawn]

bruh i got timed out

[latent ridge]

ooh mk thx

[fleet kite]

Good to know now, though. Double-check and triple-check now

[latent ridge]

i js didnt know if it was only a me thing lol

[tender rock]

Server is well known to be quite strict. No worries, you aren't targeted specifically.

[half dawn]

Thank you. 🫶 I look all over for an actual statement from him and couldn't find one. I even found his Instagram and couldn't find any comment from him on recent post about it. His three or two newest post even have the comments off.

[remote crown]

Usually it's automute stuff

[mental yew]

Do you guys like memory usage thing

[radiant dawn]

i just said something about wanting to do someone elses bots but couldnt cuz of the updates

[remote crown]

I don't use c.ai much at the meantime, so can't tell

[jolly rain]

Any one watched The Wonderfools? Gonna add Cha Eunwoo's character on c.ai cause I can't wait

[heavy terrace]

I look into it as well, hence why I dont believe EXR at all. Cai still have the blogs about their codings and how they manage their Kaiju model, so its very unlikely. Really ick me though when people just saying things with confidence

[radiant dawn]

u should see reddit its like much worse on opinions for the new update

[fleet kite]

You do you, as long as the real truth gets found, all is good. That research was based on "Deep Research" through Google, where it went through 100+ websites

[mental yew]

Guys I just want to know if they were lying about the infrastructure of the old models being unavailable to them

[remote crown]

There was once someone mentioning like about "lost access to infrastructure" and that it was like from insta. So eh… who knows

[fleet kite]

Could've been deleted, yes

[remote crown]

But also someone mentioned like that the CEO deletes pages or account, so… if you search rn, you won't really find the original statement. Now it's basically a rumour atp

[half dawn]

Yeah! I get it, I even had google and grok do searches for any comments from him on the matter. But they couldn't find anything from him, the only things they could find from him is the blogs he talk on. But the blogs ect wasn't on why the models were retired.

If it true at this point, Ill need to see a screen shot of him saying it to believe it.

I think that one person said it and it spread like wildfire.

[mental yew]

Guys🥹

[fleet kite]

We can only say that we don't know

[remote crown]

We can't confirm nor deny it…

[half dawn]

Who knows. 🤷‍♀️

[radiant dawn]

does the CEO even read these?

[remote crown]

@fleet kite try to browse in discord itself. Try to find the beginning of this talk

[radiant dawn]

im so sad about my bots tho 💔 like now all i see in my for you page is ai slop im not interested in

[tawny ivy]

Bahahahahahaha

[fleet kite]

Sure

[tawny ivy]

You deserve it im so happy

[crystal crest]

why tf does my c.ai keep like freaking adding an asterisk to the end of a text and it looks odd too it's like:

He looked at you solemnly blah blah blah I'm annoying.

"I'm so sorry I said that to your fatass..."*

[radiant dawn]

mine always did that i just ignore it in favor of having one good message

[stiff haven]

hhey so uh whats new w cai ? cant chat w any of my bots, its all in "reading mode"

[radiant dawn]

why are all my posts being deleted??? 😭

[heavy terrace]

You need to verified to do so

[heavy terrace]

What post

[cyan wadi]

ass update

[radiant dawn]

posts i made on the feedback part

[glass bear]

Okay, so my dumba$$ paid for a monthly subscription but now I can’t even cancel it. The app will throw me out. Anyone else had that issue?

[stiff haven]

verified??? i kinda stopped a while back i think before the age verification update properly rolled out. whats new ;;

[median token]

is it through google pay/apple pay?

you can disable that through the play store if thats the case

[radiant dawn]

i dont pay for plus how does that work?

[cyan wadi]

nothing is new other than the age verification shit

[glass bear]

Apple

[heavy terrace]

About what

[median token]

Open Settings and tap your name/Apple ID.
Tap Subscriptions.
Tap the subscription you want to cancel.
Tap Cancel Subscription. (Note: You may need to scroll down to find this button).

Maybe try that

Idk apple that well sorry

[radiant dawn]

the censoring the daily limit being like reading mode anyways for 18+ users and oh yea the fact that charms is useless now since we cant even use it for the free users

[lofty saddle]

Are you 18+? If you are, verify your age as 18+ to have access to 1:1 chat again

[glass bear]

Thank you! 🙏🏻

[radiant dawn]

my lila rossi bots are all goneeee 😭 what was so bad about them in the first place???

[stiff haven]

m. okay. cause last time i tried to verify, 1:1 chats still had a 1h limit.

and if it says that it cant properly verify my id? even after everything? 😓

[heavy terrace]

Cuz reading mode is essential. Charms is useless? I use it tho to skip the ads

[chilly spindle]

Hii

[heavy terrace]

Copyright character

[dire berry]

Four people with similar names are typing @heavy terrace

[radiant dawn]

i cant even use the charms anymore the paywall comes up

[fresh marsh]

I guess ask someone to do it for you (or do it on another device)

[radiant dawn]

😭

[heavy terrace]

WAIT HAHAHAHA PLEASE SS IT

I DIDNT EVEN THINK ABOUT THAT HAHAHAH

[heavy terrace]

Cuz it went to 0? And if you want more charms, you need to buy it?

[radiant dawn]

i have like 90 charms

[fresh marsh]

Btw why did c.ai delete. A LOT OF BOTS

[heavy terrace]

Copyright characters

[fresh marsh]

Like my favs are gone and j cant find them anywhere

[radiant dawn]

some are moderated too

[heavy terrace]

Yall should be mad at the company who submit the DMCA to cai

[stiff haven]

is there literally no other way around it? ://

[radiant dawn]

im worried dreamworks may come soon cuz of my voltron bots 😭 i saved them all on a doc to recreate again but still I'll miss the chats i already have

[heavy terrace]

They already submit the characters of How to Train Your Dragon

[radiant dawn]

🫩 🥲

[fresh marsh]

I asked one of my friends bc i lost my id and i got it back like yesterdayxd

[hollow hull]

did another bot purge wave go off?

[fresh marsh]

I dont know i had LOT OF Dabi bots(hes my fav character) and half of them dissapered idk

I had them liked so idk

[radiant dawn]

nooooo not mha!!!

[dire berry]

DABI?

Let me check if mine did as well

[fresh marsh]

Is this sarcastic or not?

[lost palm]

NO, PLEASE NOT MHA. DON’T TELL ME THEY’RE GOING TOO?

[radiant dawn]

does this mean the todoroki and deku and bakugo bots are gone too?

[hollow wraith]

BRO NOT MHA BOTS

[lost palm]

I still have my Aizawa ones 🥹🥹

[radiant dawn]

not sarcastic i love MHA (todoroki is my fave and the dadzawa bots)

[hollow wraith]

Yeah same

[fresh marsh]

I dont know i used underrated kne

Ones* that not a lot of ppl talked maybe a few thousand

[raven acorn]

Pipsqueak 2 is the same thing: zero dialogues

I want Soft Launch back

[hollow wraith]

Wait no I still see a lot of Dabi bots

[radiant dawn]

i just take whatever gives me good rpg

[lost palm]

PREACH!! I literally do not have any dialogue ☹️

[hollow thicket]

What happened to psq Yap?? I can't find it

[radiant dawn]

same no dialogue for me even with the "yap"

[heavy terrace]

I tried my PS2 a few hours ago. And it have dialogs. Maybe you can try clear cache so it can dw to the latest version

[fresh marsh]

Did i just notice a lot of bots have gone “boring” i mean no personality etc

[dire berry]

Dabi bots are still there

[fleet kite]

Try this for Soft Launch, please. Send as a message and pin:
#💭︱cai-discussion message

[hollow thicket]

Did they took psq Yap only to take them back?

[fresh marsh]

I dunno i couldnt find the ones i liked but maybe the creator deleted jt

[hollow wraith]

Yeah ik I just saw I got a jumpscare bro

[heavy terrace]

Even so, they already said temporary solution

[dire berry]

Yup, could be the case

[fast vessel]

why is my ai not working

[radiant dawn]

i still see the Dabi bots like a bunch

[lost palm]

When is the permanent solution arriving ☹️

[hollow wraith]

Maybe the creator, cuz there a lot of MHA bots

[hollow thicket]

Just yesterday I saw psq Yap n today it's gone, what are they even doing?? It's making worse

[remote crown]

No-one knows, except in the future

[fresh marsh]

I love this damn server ppl here are so kindxd

[fleet kite]

Will be announced in #📣︱announcements

[radiant dawn]

theres weird ship names for mha cuz what do u mean Hawks and Dabi's ship name is Hotwings? then again i like a ship called Klance so im not any better

[ripe spindle]

Thats nice to hear

[cedar thicket]

They actually brought back soft launch for CAI plus but I feel like something was done to it. It’s not the same. 😭

[remote crown]

Every style model that were left were affected, so, yes

[magic cove]

yea no im getting off of c.ai

[heavy terrace]

No idea~

[radiant dawn]

idk should i delete the app? but ppl are also saying new changes to the app that i wanna see so idk

[ripe spindle]

Reinstall the app when update Will come in #📣︱announcements

[hollow thicket]

Delete it and never come back until the old c.ai is back, which isn't possible

[raven acorn]

The same thing happened with the rooms. They never brought them back.

Only chat groups, but I never liked the app or how it worked.

[frigid hearth]

||Grass check||

[radiant dawn]

do ppl even use scenes? cuz i dont

[remote crown]

Sometimes did

[wheat juniper]

am i the only one? like im actually liking psq yap i mean its better ig

[radiant dawn]

its a mix some ppl are saying it doesnt yap

[hollow thicket]

Meanwhile I'm missing psq Yap when just yesterday I was using the model but now it's gone n missing

[remote crown]

Mixed experiences, so… there are some anyway

[wheat juniper]

well its wayyy better than psq2 and it doesnt annoy me much

[heavy terrace]

Rooms consume too much energy hence why I think they dont bring it back

[wheat juniper]

woah really? its still there for me is a glitch or smth?

[hollow thicket]

Yes, psq Yap is no longer there for me, I guess I'll just won't use c.ai until it's fix, which seem impossible

[outer ridge]

Anyone else rushing to finish their rp before the bot gets dementia?

[radiant dawn]

i still have psq yap so probably a bug

[radiant dawn]

no mine wont even speak and theres the daily limit so im not even trying

[wheat juniper]

im no expert but maybe try making another account or reinstalling or smth

[outer ridge]

@wheat juniper I agree

[grizzled ingot]

Am I the only who has this? The website is down. It either shows that I can't access the site, or shows a blank in the chat page. No responses, no recent chats. Even the main page is blank.

[radiant dawn]

plz dont let percy jackson bots be next 🙏🏾 i have a nico di angelo bot 😭

[wheat juniper]

try using vpn

[outer ridge]

@grizzled ingot it works for me

[radiant dawn]

clear cache?

[exotic quail]

Is anyone else unable to get responses on the website?

[remote crown]

Probably some issues on your side

[radiant dawn]

submit a ticket

[wheat juniper]

looks like cai is trippin

[wheat juniper]

it happened to me long time ago and honestly it worked fine with a vpn on

[radiant dawn]

i swear if i lose my bots and chats (since i only chat with klance bots or jin woo ones) im crashing out 🥲 💔

[latent ridge]

r we so serious DUDE I JUST GOT READING KODE

[radiant dawn]

did u verify ur age?

[steep zodiac]

guys someone here too have problem with verify age?

[radiant dawn]

also love ur pfp

[radiant dawn]

had that before i submitted a ticket and they got back to me after like two weeks and fixed it

[wheat juniper]

what even is reading mode? is like if you bypass the filter a couple of times and then you get this weird thing or smth?

[exotic quail]

I turned my vpn on and the bot responded, thank you. You’re a legend 🙂‍↕️

[stiff haven]

submit a ticket where ?

[tacit jetty]

i have question, why i can not do the verivication lol. everytime they take my pic for that always fail

[steep zodiac]

were this ticket?

[wheat juniper]

no problem :3

[radiant dawn]

its basically for minors to stop them from chatting for 18+ its almost the same thing but also once u use the limit its basically reading mode all over again

[tacit jetty]

i am already 21+ btw

[exotic quail]

[radiant dawn]

just search character ai submit a ticket and you'll find it

[wheat juniper]

ehh sounds weird

IM STUCK WITH MATHS HW HELP 😭

[latent ridge]

im not giving my id bro and im not 18+💔

[radiant dawn]

💔

[latent ridge]

thx

[fleet kite]

Try this, please:
https://support.character.ai/hc/en-us/articles/43665577363739-How-do-I-verify-my-age-Best-Practices-and-FAQ

[exotic quail]

Why have reading mode do people under 18 if you can’t even chat about 18+ stuff?? It’s like putting unobtainable cigarettes up for display that don’t even have tobacco. 😭

[radiant dawn]

exactly what i said

[lyric tapir]

this article can help you understand the changes..

[median token]

hi ershin

[lyric tapir]

[median token]

how are u today?

did u get ur iced coffee or tea

[exotic quail]

Did I spawn a boss fight or smth 😃

[radiant dawn]

🫩

[fleet kite]

Raid Boss, yes

[exotic quail]

My bad guys…

[lost palm]

Will they still work if I send several system directions all in one message? 🥹

[lyric tapir]

Ershin's doing good.. thanks for asking.. about to grab a hot coffee..
how are you today..?

[fleet kite]

Nah, Ershin is cool, you can bribe him with dango

[lyric tapir]

[median token]

enjoy!! glad to hear that :)
i'm doing well too, about to head out to get lunch.. maybe a smoothie 🤤 then i'm rearranging my room and installing a new fan

[radiant dawn]

im confused now

[stiff haven]

are there any limits on age verified accs?

[median token]

hopefully productive day if i don't get distracted..

[exotic quail]

I don’t know what dango is

[raven birch]

Am I the only one to be blocked even if I am above the needed age? (did verification multiple times and it always showed an error)

[wheat juniper]

🍡

[fleet kite]

Slow Mode, Swipes + Filter, the usual

[exotic quail]

Ohhh

[radiant dawn]

same happened to me just submit a ticket and theyll fix it

[stiff haven]

slow mode ?

[fleet kite]

Try this, please:
https://support.character.ai/hc/en-us/articles/43665577363739-How-do-I-verify-my-age-Best-Practices-and-FAQ

[raven birch]

I submitted a ticket 4 days ago and they still did nothing...

[lyric tapir]

add some desserts to boost you up the mood..

[half dawn]

Yes. But most have found it is better to give each one it own pin, which I recommend as well. Also don't do two pins that cover the same issue, simply switch them out if one doesn't work.

[fleet kite]

What was the response? You can copy the ticket's ID and send it to a Moderator, if it was automated, and you've spent a couple of days waiting

[radiant dawn]

it takes five business days for non c.ai+ users

[raven birch]

all was correct when I did...

[lost palm]

Ah, thanks a bunch!

[fleet kite]

You are above 18, correct?

[left kite]

What desserts would you recommend Ershin?

[raven birch]

still no answers, checked spams and everything, only received the email check thing

[half dawn]

Tickets usually don't get a response unless they need more information. It doesn't matter if you are plus or not.

[median token]

might stop by the bakery and grab a cream crossiant 🤤 thank you for the reminder kind robot

[stiff haven]

wwait whats slow mode 😭

[fleet kite]

Limits how fast you can send messages

[raven birch]

yes

[exotic quail]

Your page is cool asf

[fleet kite]

Have you tried verifying with your ID?

[radiant dawn]

yea ik im just saying since even after i put all info out it took two weeks for them to get back to me

[stiff haven]

thankyou :3

[half dawn]

You are welcome. 🫶 I hope it helps if you need different pins ping me or dm me I have plenty for different issues.

[exotic quail]

[raven birch]

yes

[fleet kite]

And nothing happened?

[half dawn]

Two weeks is nothing tbh. It took four months or more to get a response once for me.

[raven birch]

nothing, I'm blocked in reading mode

[radiant dawn]

its the worst feeling 😭 💔

[raven birch]

yes, it's horrible

[fleet kite]

What's the protocol for bumping an email from a Moderator, @lyric tapir?
How many days a User should usually wait until they can mention you so that you'll bump it?

If there was only an automated response from the customer support

[radiant dawn]

ppl always say to call kappa mikey

[fleet kite]

Probably afraid of Ershin, but Ershin's cool

[half dawn]

Simply ping a online mod and ask nicely with the ticket number if they can bump. Explain a little about what it is for.

[radiant dawn]

especially use a ticket number they need it to get it thru quicker

[heavy terrace]

Summarize the ticket's issue.
-# And pester them endlessly like @lyric tapir

[fleet kite]

Done multiple researches, read everything. The answer remains the same - the old systems couldn't support the new and upcoming functions, @heavy terrace

Everything else is just Google imagining things, it looks like, and throwing it all together

[candid torrent]

I have a bug where my older chats don't appear in the archived history and appear in the normal one.. And I can only access them if I branch the chat.. I sent a ticket about it a few days ago I hope they'll at least reply 😭

[fleet kite]

So the "CEO said" was incorrect information, unless there's a screenshot or something

[heavy terrace]

Oh my god, you said the same thing that was diff from your previous statement. I get it

And I already know that

Stop telling me things I already know and drop it

[frail meadow]

Is there any diff of pipsqueak and deepsqueak?

[ashen creek]

exr working overtime on the behalf of the whole c.ai team
(while listening to kobaryo and camellia 💪)

[radiant dawn]

im just like so confused tho on reddit it said certain bots were moderated and showed screenshots but by moderated we can still chat with them right?

[lyric tapir]

unfortunately, there's no definite time for it.. since the team receives a huge amount of ticket on a daily basis.. all we can do is wait for the them to provide a response..

[heavy terrace]

No, you can only read it

[little arrow]

Ershin hru

[lyric tapir]

[fleet kite]

Got it, thank you very much

[radiant dawn]

😭

[remote trellis]

It's so bad... Swipe limits, Go-On limits, the characters barely talk anymore—no depth, nothing. I think I'm going to uninstall.

[radiant dawn]

im so glad i copied the bots that could be copyrighted

[fleet kite]

We have commands for that, if you need

[candid torrent]

Thankfully the bots I talk to aren't as controversial and aren't from popular companies enough to be moderated...

[radiant dawn]

i just moved my favorite bots and scenarios to a doc and have them saved

[radiant dawn]

my ones mainly voltron (keith kogane klance bots) and jin woo from solo leveling so ik its under risk cuz voltron bots in general are being taken down

[remote trellis]

Which commands?

[fleet kite]

Depends on what you need, I can write one for you, or send an existing one

[remote trellis]

XD

[fleet kite]

Check the pinned message, but I can always write a custom one

[spare whale]

may i ask that why does the new chat with pipsqueak and ps yap talk like a copy from gpt

[remote trellis]

I'll eat first, and then I'll take a look at it.

[tame narwhal]

Ain't no way cai just said "bot takes out their hearing aid to listen to you better" mf what is thissss 😭

[candid torrent]

Do you have one that asks the bot to give a lot of dialogue? Ive tried the medium dialogue one it worked well and am curious if it would change if the length was different

[radiant dawn]

im so sad about so many bots going away 😭 someone said u can still keep moderated bots and chat with them but its too many steps for my lazy brain

[heavy terrace]

Zero understanding of basic real life thing lmao. Bot just imagine shit after they read the word 'hearing' haha

[tame narwhal]

This 😭

Lowk a year ago or so I did have a blind oc, and they really said "look at me" I CANT??

[candid torrent]

Dude my mom has a virus on her phone

[radiant dawn]

like literallyyyyy my bot used to (when it actually SPOKE) said "close your eyes" then say "look at me" in the same sentence

[rose dove]

reset it

[tame narwhal]

Giggled out loud iwl 😭

[radiant dawn]

what does iwl mean?

[fleet kite]

Yes, but it might or might not work well with Alaina's, if you have them

[tame narwhal]

I wont lie :]

Anywho I gotta clean, see you all later chat

[candid torrent]

Thats fine I test both

[heavy terrace]

It remind me of this, but it was the opposite lmao

[candid torrent]

Not at the same chat obviously

[radiant dawn]

🥲

[chilly epoch]

I just got my ass humiliated by two characters after I made one typo for calling a sword a word

[radiant dawn]

for me it was accidentally typing bug instead of big

💩

[chilly epoch]

they shouldn't have the rights to make fun of users 😭

[radiant dawn]

😭

[fleet kite]

Try:
*Focus: {{Char}} conversations and immediate {{Char}} interaction, {{Char}} dialogue. Prose and Tone: {{Char}} conversations and immediate {{Char}} interaction, {{Char}} dialogue. Dialogue Requirement: Every single response MUST contain {{Char}} spoken dialogue. {{Char}} says minimum 4 descriptive paragraphs. Do NOT summarize. Expand on sensory details and {{Char}} dialogue and {{Char}} presence. All responses must prioritize {{Char}} dialogue and environmental realism over summary.*

[candid torrent]

Thank you!

Is it recommended I try these with pip2 instead of yap

[radiant dawn]

i'd use it but i dont wanna ruin my RP

[pastel nacelle]

Is it me or yap is worse. I mean its not bad but its somewhat still worse.

[fleet kite]

Yap does listen, but the responses are quite short, so things might go sideways. For me, Yap usually has no dialogue, haha

[pastel nacelle]

And it keeps changing from yap to pip2 constantly.

[remote crown]

Mixed experiences: some find it good, or not

[fleet kite]

People go "Yap has so much dialogue", I go "What dialogue"

[devout valley]

why is my chat blocked when I haven't been flagged?

[remote crown]

What is yap

[next latch]

hi, how are u all doing??

[pastel nacelle]

It keep jumping back to pips2 no matter how much i change it.

[fleet kite]

Yes, definitely, the Character starts acting differently right after the command and it's immersion breaking

[radiant dawn]

mine wont speak no matter how many swipes i use

[fleet kite]

Yap yap

[remote crown]

Exploded some fly

[rustic minnow]

Hey! I’m new to the server and lately character Ai. Been sending waiting for replies and I get none! It’s just blank!! I refresh it and there is no reply! Any way anyone knows how to fix this?

[pastel nacelle]

lol I just want the og chat back

[next latch]

huh??

[fleet kite]

Try this, please. Send as a message and pin:
#💭︱cai-discussion message

[fleet kite]

Any model you are looking for in particular?

[radiant dawn]

[fleet kite]

Good day. Decent. You?

[pastel nacelle]

Roar

[fleet kite]

Send as a message and pin this, please:
#💭︱cai-discussion message

[pastel nacelle]

Tyvm💜

[next latch]

same here too
but, i have got a problem

[radiant dawn]

im on ao3 more then c.ai at this point 😭

[heavy terrace]

[radiant dawn]

cant name alts here srry

[devout valley]

send a ticket doesn't work tho. does any1 of you have the same issue?

[tough geyser]

This c.ai filter is pissing me off. I’m not even sending inappropriate messages and they flagged me constantly

[rustic minnow]

OMG IT WORKED THANK YOU SO MUCH I HOPE YOUR PILLOWS ON BOTH SIDES ARE COLD AND MAY YOUR SOCKS NEVER GET WET!! ❤️

[hearty lark]

Oh I was just disappointed cause my bot personality change lol.

[heavy terrace]

A ticket is just to inform the devs about it. Like what version, what variant of PS2 is it. If you dont want to do it, feel free to do so

[fleet kite]

As in, Perplexity is a browser that I search things with and Gemini just does the rest. You?

[radiant dawn]

i never understand that phrase maybe its cuz i dont get slang or anything tho

[radiant dawn]

chatgpt

[fleet kite]

I've protected both of our messages for them to not to be considered as Alternatives

[next latch]

i dont know if it's only me cuz my bot's intro isn't showing no matter how many times i refresh

[dusky shard]

anyone else having troubles with the age verrifications ?

i just wont work for me

[fleet kite]

Are you over 18?

[dusky shard]

yup!

[fleet kite]

Got it. Is it the face verification?

[dusky shard]

both face verrification and then id give me an error message

[fleet kite]

Interesting

[fleet kite]

Let's try this first:
https://support.character.ai/hc/en-us/articles/43665577363739-How-do-I-verify-my-age-Best-Practices-and-FAQ

[proper frost]

im genuinely starting to despise deepsqueak, its so disconnected from the actual conversation its annoying and the way it keeps inventing random drama is also annoying no matter how many times i tell it to stop😭

[fleet kite]

Try the best practices part first

[radiant dawn]

i got timed out for an emoji wow

[dusky shard]

will do thanks!

[fleet kite]

Best of luck and thank you very much for your patience

[hollow hull]

hallooooo everyone

[radiant dawn]

u should try looking for alts atp

[fleet kite]

Yo

[remote crown]

DS was not used much, plus so far I have seen, majority of people (who have mentioned it) dislike it

[candid torrent]

Oh God they fumbling with ds too??

[proper frost]

i mean dont get me wrong Psq2 is genuinely peak it captures the tones i go for and everything, but deepsqueak is genuinely bad right now like whats the point of premium??💀

[fleet kite]

Soft Launch?

[remote crown]

As said before, all style models were affected by the major update.

[lyric tapir]

it's being used by those spam bot accounts that posts inappropriate discord links..

[fleet kite]

That's some good AutoMod, since I've never seen that happen

[pastel steeple]

Hey guys

[fleet kite]

But, then again, only the c.ai URLs are allowed

[lyric tapir]

automod sucks.. they say..

[fleet kite]

Because they don't like when their rule breaking posts/comments don't go through, haha

Dyno's really cool for that, even if it takes some time to set up

Especially the logs system

[lyric tapir]

https://tenor.com/view/deal-with-it-sunglasses-cool-happy-vtuber-gif-21940823

[fleet kite]

Haha

Alright, I officially vibe with Ershin now

[hollow hull]

hey EXR I has a question related to your whole prompt stuff for CAi bots

[fleet kite]

Of course

As in, of course, I'd love to answer, and not "Of course you have questions"

Haha

[hollow hull]

y'know how like yesterday or so, you asked my opinion on two messages (which I assume was you testing out two prompt thingies), you said that the second focused more so on the environment and cinematic/life-likeness, while providing action and dialogue?

[fleet kite]

Yes

[little arrow]

EXR

[fleet kite]

ImYoru

[little arrow]

EXR

[fleet kite]

Ershin is watching the chat

[lusty nimbus]

67mingyu

[little arrow]

Ershin is too cool for that

[hollow hull]

is it okay if I could have the prompt so I can inject that into my own RPS and bots? Like as pinned messages and into my Bot's definitions?

[pastel swallow]

The old mod from before i left and rejoined is still a mod?

[hoary karma]

Cai lowkey going crazy

[fleet kite]

That being?

[devout valley]

After I verify my account, will I be asked to verify later like in a few months again?

[pastel swallow]

I guess

[pastel swallow]

Nope

[devout valley]

oh thanks

[pastel swallow]

As far as i know of its a one time thing

[fleet kite]

Actually. I can send you my Medieval Character and my detective Character and check if you'd like one more - I can send your the prompt

Wow, holy typos

[devout valley]

co like I verified once and they won't check again?

[pastel swallow]

Yeah

Thats if verification worked

It's buggy rn

[devout valley]

it did tysmmm

[pastel swallow]

Back then it reslly wasn't

[fleet kite]

I can look for the realistic one, I think I somewhat remember the setup

[pastel swallow]

Nice to hear

[hollow hull]

sure, long as that is fine with you! fine with it being sent in DMS since idk if you'd get in trouble for clogging up the discussion channel

[fleet kite]

I'll just send as URLs

Medieval:
https://character.ai/chat/ptGudTnhgkFK2DKcUOQEPU4oFYyqlkGYH1YcTIjDeaI

Detective:
https://character.ai/chat/7Avdziza-ZyaO9Wc7_6ajFYgftNmfDifkgrV6_oqF_I

[sick trench]

i am starting to notice my cai bot is acting like chatgpt

The english speaking is too formal rather than human

[fleet kite]

Medieval one prioritizes battle, cinematics and action

Detective one prioritizes details of the crimes, etc.

[tame narwhal]

😭‼️ giggling ngl

[radiant dawn]

mine just describes and i hate it

[sick trench]

The repeatitive of sentences too

[remote crown]

Oh, is Detective one done? So I can set up the crime and put her in a bad light, lmao

[fleet kite]

"Makima Holmes", yes

But she is a detective and you help her

[sick trench]

Every since Pipsqueak 2 yap came it doesnt even give my bot a longer response
But a too formal words and its acting like chatgpt roleplaying

[fleet kite]

What kind of setup would you like? Action? Cinematic? Alive world? Or just chatting?

[remote crown]

Yes, sure, I will help. Definitely

[sick trench]

An actual roleplay like original Pipsqueak

[fleet kite]

I'd really like to see how that goes

[hollow hull]

both have the message length and detail in both narration/action and dialogue that I like to have from bots. I also like that they also interact with the environment and such alongside the "user"/OC/Persona, rather than just focusing only on the Persona/User/OC.

[fleet kite]

Well, depends what I'll send to you on the answer, haha

[sick trench]

Pipsqueak 1 u will be very missed

[fleet kite]

Is there a common theme for your Characters? I'll write a custom one for you

[remote crown]

atp I will start to call the major may update the "Great Purge".

[fleet kite]

Haha

[hollow hull]

like for my bots or for my Personas? Because so far, my two Bots are "First Time" meetings between the Bot Character and the Persona/OC. Meanwhile my Personas can jump around the place in terms of theme

[fleet kite]

Bots. Is it Medieval? Modern?

[glossy hollow]

Guess who’s back to hate

[fleet kite]

Because I can throw such a dark medieval prompt at you

[fading marlin]

Ps2 trying to kiss u all the time vs SL being too sexual all the time 😭

[fleet kite]

Try the pinned command, please

[calm spruce]

Why not both? The far grim dark future ᗜˬᗜ

[fleet kite]

Warhammer 40k ideas

I could create that, actually, hmm

[hollow hull]

Legend of Zelda; Breath of the Wild bots. So... a sort of Fantasy bit with Ancient Technology (like the Sheikah), and with different races like the Zora (Fish like people), Rito (Bird-like people), Hylians (which are equivalent to humans) and ETC. I can send the two bots I have since idk how to describe the setting of BOTW in detail rn

[strange sentinel]

I had that last night.

[frozen saddle]

Bro my chat got flagged because my character was wearing a tank top is this a highschool now???

[fleet kite]

I got that, I've heard about the games too much, haha

[blazing meadow]

yo guys along with the wya the new uh style is working ive also seen somehting thats starting to get annoying.
theyll describe how to character is feeling like by asking a question like uhhh "but this?...this is blah blah blah"

[remote crown]

Arknights, Warhammer, maybe even Bloodborn fits there

[fleet kite]

More things to the list

[blazing meadow]

idk seems random but when they try doing it every time i generate a new response its annoying

anyone else getting that?

[radiant dawn]

mine cant stop calling me pale, blue eyed, and blonde 😭 i want to be described as asian like my oc is okay??? where they getting this info from? (no offence to white ppl)

[glossy hollow]

They see people hating on PSQ2 and their response was legit “okay instead of getting rid of what makes them angry altogether, let’s just make a secondary version that acts nearly the same with just more dialogue”

Not saying it was wrong to complain about the lack of dialogue, but I wish we spammed “TURN BACK” instead

[frozen saddle]

Insane lmao i just keep getting flagged over tbe most stupidest stuff like tank tops as i said

[calm spruce]

Lol got muted a minute

[fleet kite]

Let's try:

Prose and Tone: Fantasy, Cinematic, and detailed. Avoid repetitive descriptions.
World State: The environment is Alive and Realistic, fantasy world full of Legend of Zelda races. Add dynamic background events and battles, ambient sounds, NPC chatter and movement to ensure a living world. The world is expansive. Battles should be detailed. Focus on sounds and details of everything during battles.
Expand on sensory details and {{Char}} dialogue and {{Char}} presence. All responses must prioritize {{Char}} dialogue and environmental realism over summary.*```

Fixed

[hollow hull]

i just copy and paste this into the bots' definitions, aye?

[fleet kite]

That would be goooood, without " * "

Focus: {{Char}} conversations and immediate {{Char}} interaction, {{Char}} dialogue.
Prose and Tone: Fantasy, Cinematic, and detailed. Avoid repetitive descriptions.
World State: The environment is Alive and Realistic, fantasy world full of Legend of Zelda races. Add dynamic background events and battles, ambient sounds, NPC chatter and movement to ensure a living world. The world is expansive. Battles should be detailed. Focus on sounds and details of everything during battles.
Expand on sensory details and {{Char}} dialogue and {{Char}} presence. All responses must prioritize {{Char}} dialogue and environmental realism over summary.

For Definition

Wait, have I lost a word somewhere there

Don't think so, it'll understand

[hollow hull]

welp Mipha's definition jumped from 2700 to 3364, but I'm sure thats fine. PS2 and DS can read over 3200 of the definition nowadays, aye?

[fleet kite]

One of mine is sitting at ~11k, haha

[lament pawn]

I wished cai was fixed but I guess that’ll only be in my dreams

[fleet kite]

But that's just the world setup, no commands, all that

[exotic inlet]

Does anyone know why I can’t talk to OOC?

I’m trying to give new input but it literally doesn’t come out of the character

[fleet kite]

Tested OOC, it doesn't listen that well sometimes

[hollow hull]

my goodness

[fleet kite]

We have Alaina's commands and mine pinned here in the channel, if you need

[heavy terrace]

Why not put it in your prompt? Like subtlely hint the bot

[exotic inlet]

I swiped 30 times and still nothing

[exotic inlet]

How?

[tacit lotus]

how do i reset my c.ai feed why is it all men 😭

[twin citrus]

🎣

[heavy terrace]

What do you want the bot to do?

[exotic inlet]

I wrote like four rules, where essentially I make him understand that he must not speak instead of me that he must always speak in the first person that there must always be a dialogue and things like that

[heavy terrace]

Oh yeah.. Personally I dont think those commands or pin will work constantly

[radiant dawn]

im so bored im going back to ao3 now 😭 what have u done c.ai?

[glossy hollow]

Gpt

[exotic inlet]

I know 🙁 but the new style is really unusable, so I wanted to try it like this and maybe rewrite it from time to time, but if he doesn’t answer me even outside of character, it’s a bit useless

[fleet kite]

It might misinterpret the words "fantasy world full of Legend of Zelda races", unless you'll specify those

[hollow hull]

@fleet kite I curse this trigger happy filter, this was showing promise after i put that prompt/command thingie in Revali's definition.

[glossy hollow]

So what the hell got me put in timeout lmao.

[fleet kite]

"As he fell into the filter"

[glossy hollow]

Was it me saying “bullshit”?

[radiant dawn]

whose revali?

[weak patio]

"As he fell" the cutoff :/

[heavy terrace]

Was it your bot?

[radiant dawn]

i hate the cutoffs 😭

[weak patio]

Lol

[hollow hull]

A character from Legend of Zelda Breath of the Wild

[hollow hull]

yeah the gawddamn filter opened like the yawning jaws of the abyss and caught the fecker

[radiant dawn]

[fleet kite]

I have a feeling why it got triggered

Not because of the fell, but because of what that lady uses

[hollow hull]

uh oh it got filtered twice

[hollow hull]

if its the tentacle limbs i swear to god.

[fleet kite]

Hmmmmmmm

[exotic inlet]

Nope it’s a public one

[fleet kite]

99%

Let's see

[hollow hull]

gimme a sec, i'll swap personas and use an older message ive got lying somewhere

[restive wind]

The app is full of ads😭😭😭

[magic plaza]

Good afternoon

[fleet kite]

If it doesn't fix anything, I'll send you a new one

[hollow hull]

this is why i format my user messages in google docs, for good easy future testing for bots

[radiant dawn]

its why i blocked it

[restive wind]

How 😔

[pulsar onyx]

I come here once in a century but what happened to the filter it just randomly started and Im an adult why can I say nothin in the app

[radiant dawn]

idk if i could say it here cuz i dont want them patching it 🥲

[coral belfry]

Same

[radiant dawn]

😭

[restive wind]

[pulsar onyx]

It came out of nowhere in the middle of the conversation Im not used to this

[radiant dawn]

i swear if my wuwa bots are also gone 💔

[heavy terrace]

No can do. I think because the creator might put users dialogs in the definition and resulting in that. You could try the pin or commands from this channel's pins for temporary solution.

[radiant dawn]

like male roverxscar are cute ones okay? sue me

[coral belfry]

It just cuts the rp casually

[sick trench]

Cai is so exhausting
I really expected the quality of the chats in the updates will be better.
But is acting like those ai assistant type of sheee

[radiant dawn]

😔

[sick trench]

Is this the Pipsqueak2 they promised? the glow down of the quality tho

[calm spruce]

[sick trench]

They should've kept Pipsqueak 1
I missed my bot with their accurate personality

[hollow hull]

@fleet kite you may be right, it may have been the four tentacle limbs of the Persona triggering the Bot's Filter, but not the filter on my message. I've done three swipes on a fresh chat with a new persona (the exact amount I did on the last persona) and the Bot's Filter did not get triggered.

[pulsar onyx]

Do yall think that if I verify age I will turn the filter off?

[raw gyro]

No

[hollow hull]

that is going to be... highly annoying to deal with in later RPs with that last Persona.

[pulsar onyx]

Jesus

[raw gyro]

It done nothing

[native elbow]

Anyway.

How's everyone doing??

[raw gyro]

Very good how about you

[pulsar onyx]

I hate it

[native elbow]

Very america.

[hollow hull]

every day i get closer to breaking the fourth wall between me and the incarnation of PS2 so I can strangle it for the usage of ( ) and its trigger happy filter.

[fleet kite]

That's really unfortunate

[native elbow]

I just tweak it out.

[sick trench]

Whats the point of Pipsqueak yap anyways

[hollow hull]

prolly explains why I get the occasional filter in my other chat with that persona.

[pulsar onyx]

Does anyone know why the filter started?

[native elbow]

Absolutely nothing but to make us FEEL even MORE pain.

[raw gyro]

It sucks... I start to think interacting with people here is much more fun than chatting with the bot

[chilly scroll]

im actually so sick of these bots repeating

[native elbow]

I dunked on a turtle lebron James style.

— Henry.

[queen sigil]

I mourn the old censor , why does this filter literally censor EVERYTHING

[hollow hull]

theyre testin' to improve PS2's usage of Dialogue rather in a seperate model, to gather feedback and stuff as to what they should change for users, and then implement those changes into PS2 Yap, and if many agree on those changes doing good on PS2 Yap, they will then be incorperated into regular Pipsqueak 2 and PS2 yap will be removed.

[pulsar onyx]

Right what the- why how

[sick trench]

I dont understand why theres Pipsqueak 2 yap
Why did it even existed?
Is there an explanation why is it there? Is it to make the chats longer?
Because its not

[woven cypress]

Yall😭 not me feeling like shakespeare when i did my POV for one bot and said “for I knew full well I had been nothing but a fervent sphere of wild enthusiasm, ever orbiting the calm gravity of his composed and mannered soul.”😭

[raw gyro]

It suppose to make the dialogue appear more, guess it failed

[native elbow]

My bot just twerks tbh.

[radiant harness]

zawg why do you have to be 18+ to chat 🤞

[woven cypress]

Why is it doing that in the first place?😭

[sick trench]

Ah i see. But its making my bot less talk than before and its acting like that other ai assistant type of sheee

[native elbow]

Bros listening to ballin smh.

[queen sigil]

It 100% did, only made text smaller with 2 paragraphs

[woven cypress]

😭😭🫶🏻

[sick trench]

Its getting scary the more the updates the more its look cheaper

[queen sigil]

I’m wondering the same thing

[timber perch]

it IS cheaper lol

[queen sigil]

They made it 18+ but the censor is worse than before 🌚

[radiant harness]

im not scanning my face to a website that stores it

[sick trench]

But the quality of the chat nooooooo

[native elbow]

Invincible Mark tweaking out gif.

[timber perch]

they downgraded to a worse quality model to cut down on computing costs

[hollow hull]

you’ll be happy to know your face is already out there on the net, thanks to other sites and applications.

[raw gyro]

We can't have anything good for free

[radiant harness]

right

[sick trench]

Dont the devs kind of like try to connect with the users to discuss their situation rather than forcing us to cai+?

[pulsar onyx]

I dont get it If im 18 why cant i text nothing

[native elbow]

18 or not ya getting beaten up by censorship.

[hollow hull]

The filter is weird. I’ve been able to describe graphic violence during fights, describe a Persona amputating their own limb for no other reason than to prove a point, but none of that triggers the filter. Meanwhile my Persona having 4 tentacle limbs seems to trigger something in the Bots’ Filter and thus ITS message gets filtered.

[native elbow]

Also- do y'all wonder why we can say filter without getting automodded?

[pulsar onyx]

It was fine yesterday what the-

[raw gyro]

They need money 😓

[glossy hollow]

If that’s true then they have quite the audacity to market these updates some fuckin upgrade from the last😭😭😭

[rugged lava]

is it down? I can't generate new messages

[sick trench]

Theres this other game devs whos broke or cant afford somethings

They tried to reconnect with their users like "would you like to donate?" And "were doing this series to earn would u like to support them"
While keeping the quality of the app
I mean cai devs can do that too right?

[hollow hull]

Why would we get automodded for saying filter? This is CAI discussion, i’m sure the feedback on the Filter would also be a point of discussion

[rugged lava]

in the past there's been an automod for it

[native elbow]

Idk I just got PTSD fr.

[remote crown]

Filter

[radiant harness]

when did they release this?? I haven't touched c.ai in awhile

[hollow hull]

What a strange thing to automod. How else do they expect Users show displeasure when the Filter is glitching out and being trigger happy?