#💭︱cai-discussion
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It also still has that regular Pip problem of having everything sumed down to a few stupid lines like
Bazinga.
Bazoonga.
Yap.
Bro what cereal are you eating with mustard?!😭
HIII HYOUTA
You need to remind them subtlely that its all pure platonic. They are AI, they dont understand things
Oh my days. Who TF wants savoury cereal bro😨😨😨
LMFAOOOO U AINT WRONG
Cinnamon toast crunch lol
JESUS

Don’t say this they’ll come for you
Me. I just have a different appetite than most or... everyone
... Mustard... I've already seen a fried egg with sweet sprinkles...
Someone shared a command to tell the chats to me and I forgot to genuinely put it somewhere
THATS MY FAV CEREAL😭😭😭
How long until due?
Cinnamon Toast Crunch is so mid I'm sorry
Supposedly, pip2 yap focuses on more dialogues than narration. Haven’t had a proper test run with it yet tho
next thing i know im muted in this chat
I should try that ngl
Mustard?… 
I've never had cinnamon toast crunch...
Get out with your opinions.
Wait, did I accidentally give the idea?
They muted me and called me sniff STUPIDBEAN

You did and I appreciate it 🙏

Istg It's fine enough but there's so many better cereals
Until due? 
i want breakfast now…
makima is mine
MUSTAAAAAARD- Kendrick Lamar
You and me both
Mods! Smite them!
Go eet
Because pregnant women have weird ahh food combinations
i’m boring, i love frosted flakes n fruity pebbles
I'm not a woman 😭
LOLLLL
Mpreg
Also cinnamon toast crunch cost 1k in my country wtf
The command works but not constantly. You need to work on your prompt. The model is having a problem too where it like to romanticized everything but you need to train it
I LOVE FROSTED FLAKES
Well I am an mpreg
hella
I’m gonna train it to be deleted from my phone at that rate
Interesting..
Sorry? a thousand?
and download it back after a day
I wanna be pregnant so I have an excuse to be fat and greedy/j
YEAH A THOUSAND ITS WIKD for cereal😔
Ever tried fried noodles with hot sauce?
I've said this a thousand times:
If you gotta do flips, splits, and backflips for it to function, it's bad. Roar never had that problem, it just flowed.
You do you. Hinting the bot to be pure platonic is not that hard after all
You heard me
Just gelatinous 💔💔
I think I did
Wait, we put peanut butter in fried noodles is that valid
Hell yeah
oh i like peanut butter noodles
Yes, when I start getting the withdraws. Scratching at my skin. Tweaking, eye twitching as I question myself on what is reality and fiction and why tf I do this to myself. Did I take my meds today? The answer is no.
What about with hot chili oil?
I lowk miss how c.ai was before pipsqueak , this feels too complicated and the bots don’t respond the same 😔
Well once I put chocolates in my noodles and it was good
YES!!!
Roar had that problem too lol, constantly if you bad at prompting
its like 20-50 depending on supermarket or online
Literally most evergone would agree
maybe.. take your prescriptions
Never tried it. I'll add it to my list
Try this pin for genre of rp.
[SYSTEM DIRECTIVE:#Platonic Theme
This roleplay between {{char}} and {{user}} follows a strictly platonic relationship dynamic.{{char}} interacts with {{user}} through companionship,trust,loyalty,banter,emotional support,teamwork,and interpersonal bonding without romantic or flirtatious behavior unless explicitly developed later through roleplay.{{char}} maintains meaningful emotional connection and strong character chemistry with {{user}} while keeping the relationship fundamentally non-romantic.]
Pin it than give time to adjust with how the system works. It may take some chatting and swiping till the system shifts. Refresh the chat after pining it. If it starts to drift after a bit that just means it needs to be refreshed in the c.ai system memory.
Tbh if yall want old c.ai that badly just get yalls ass to work I know one of yall can code 👨💻
Pair it with eggs, side meat, pickled veggies (or kimchi and pickled radish...)
DIY that shit 💩
The inflation in our country is wild that's probably why the conversion is high😔
Damned corrupt government!!
I never had to pin smth or put smth like i dunno the message above me for it to work in the past
then after a month they’re having their own cai subscription that’s twice as much as the og subscription
Plzzz I've never tried pickled radish before it always looks so good in mukbangs
Absolutely not
I remember the time when psq was new and it was only available for some accounts and everyone was like "I got pipsqueak!" "Oh I don't :(" and now everyone is complaining about pipsqueak is crazy
Oh, you better try some. They are delish!
so now everyone is crying about it, AGAIN
people will always have something to complain about, period 
Yeah, because my point is at the prompt. Literally read.. Its not about model, its the prompt. Thats my whole point. Your message you sent is the prompt
You guys may hate me, but I also love hot ass pillows in the summer
The addiction, it’s too much you can’t make me go back to rehab for this. 😤
I do too , and I stopped using c.ai for a few months and when I came back it felt so different , like the bots don’t even talk back sometimes
Ouhhh I'll ask my mom to buy cinnamon toast crunch from S&R when she goes there
Not if I tell them no
Fr
be the new ceo of cai aaaa
Alright man what the frick
Rue from euphoria ahh
peak reference
I knew it 😭
Have a good nap.
AYYYY
Does she tweak over AI? Didn’t think so 😤
We listen and we don't judge (we do)
the ultimate ragebaiter
Oh.
I like to be descriptive with the first prompt, so I cannot relate to that, ehhhh...
No she just tweak in general
Brb im gonna see something to eat
This but I'm not
Which country are you from? I remember S&R
Fair enough.
no but ur both addicted to something so ur practically her

makima is mine
Philippines!

All yours bro 😭
hell yeah she can manipulate me

No wonder! I had their pizza and burgers there, especially the pizza
Honestly though I just get bored af when I’m not working and find myself playing the app for hours and I don’t have a better alternative app
Their milk tea is good! It has cream cheese in it methinks
BRUH IDK IF IM IN THE RIGHT CHANNEL BUT BRO CAN C.AI FIX THE MODES I HAVE TO READ A PARAGRAPH AS LONG AS A CHAPGER EVERYTIME I RESPOND 😭😭✌️
Also if it is a multi-character bot you need to put in the definition who the bot is supposed to play for. Also what the relationship/family connection is to the persona. So the bot knows better how to act towards the persona.
I'm so tired rn
Everything there is good, but it's above average in price huhuhu...
i want that issue plz
Brah. I have two years of my platonic rps and most of the prompt message are below 250 characters (cuz I'm lazy). You dont need to be descriptive as long as you HINT the bot that is pure platonic. Thats my whole point
Other than that? Elder scrolls Oblivion replay 😌
i can’t stand the 3 sentences responses
😭 Right, the pizza is expensive as hell but fair enough cuz it's large
Honestly agree
Just one slice, and you're full. And it feels like you have more for the following days (A sucker for pepperoni and cream cheese)
How do I fix the responses to be shorter without restricting them from talking back? Everytime I request for shorter responses , they just respond with actions and not actual dialogue
We make it our meal until it's finished😔💔
Oh my god I love the cream cheese one
I think if you go to your settings you can choose chat length
Whose the top 5 weirdest people in this server in yall opinion
You
You
You
You
You
New pfp got me feeling brand new
I forgot the user name but someone in another chat told me to tell the chat my character was eating poop
THAT isn't me
Where would this option be ?
Mother is usually mixed on pepperoni, but cream cheese will make her eat the pepperoni with it
You can refer to this channel's pin message from Alaina
I want a pepperoni roll…
I take off the pepperoni...😬
No, it doesnt exist anymore because it doesnt do anything
Pepperoni…
I HATE pepperoni.
Okay sure it's all yours
Can I have the extra pepperoni then?
Why can't it load
I'll say sum normal then. I love pizza
Okie, thank you!
I don’t think you’d want it to
What's wrong with you?? Bro??
It used to be under chat customization
MODS! DISASSEMBLE THEIR MOLECULAR STRUCTURE
🙏🏽 thank uu
gyeulp...
I would murder one of yall for a pepperoni roll rn
🏃🏼♂️
Me please
Ouwh
... Huh? (Although I forgot to see if the grocery supermarket had pepperoni when I got olives)

Sorry guys just silly cravings
Valid
Welkies. It was temporary solution from alaina so you need to constantly remind the bot or tweak it
I miss my cai
Now it loads KAKEGURUIII

Yo pipsqueak yap is litteraly just pipsqueak one but can actually make 2 paragraphs instead of 45
Tweak? Like tweak out on the bots? Physically pick them up and take them somewhere like they do to us? Kiss them when they’re arguing with you now? Call them endearing names like they do to you and when they look at you like you’re crazy say “I didn’t mean it like that. I’m joking.” Because that’s what they do to you?
Mark my words by 2027 we'll have 8 "different" pipsqueak modes
2 paragraphs with 0 yap 😭
I never had those problems with me lmao, cuz I know how to prompt unlike you 
They're giving us a worst option so we miss the other pipsqueak and use it instead
I’m about to start dating their mothers in the chats to traumatize them
and all of them sucks
Pipsuckseak
Bro pipsqueak is so ahh
I miss the chats before pipsqueak
Same
bring back roar
meow>>>
I love meow fr
Studies shows that pipsqueak degrade my depression by 30%
I just remembered I made a your mom joke to a bakugo bot the other day and it kicked me out of his car and made me walk home from vacation so I hospitalized my character and traumatized him
Brother just another me

Hey guys I like the app I really do but I keep getting prompts about seeking mental health help which I don't need let me add that I'm good but sometimes I like to role play sensitive topics that can sometimes be construed as controversial maybe even dangerous but I'm a grown adult who can handle difficult topics is there a way I can stop that from happening
I had the perfect build up for my Gojo bot and they took Meow option away and it completely ruined the plot 😔
Word around it
Again, you do you. I dont care
I feel so nostalgic of hospitalizing my characters to guilty traumatize the bot bc of their irrelevant Action that pissed me off
Insert LETS GAMBLE! Meme
or I give the bot the worst life to exist
Sometimes I make my characters eternally “disappear” (not trying to get modded here) and it forever traumatizes the chats. Then I restart it 😌
My pfp looks like Yumeko’s homunculus
LMAO SAME
I’ve just recently got into the angst , never going back 😭
💔💔
wait guys is reader mode on for everyone or just a select few
Global
I had a chat where my character dad was playing favoritism towards one of his students and not giving my character enough love So I pulled the angst card x1000
no you’re joking this is horrible 😭😭😭😭😭
is it just me or did the typing quality of the bots get worse like 2 days ago
That's what you get for not favouriting my existence, father
Yeah is it really that simple though because I tried to word around it a few different ways in a few different scenarios and the prompt keeps popping up is there not a way to like turn that off
Absolutely did
like the bot used to type 4-5 paragraphs and now it feels barebones asf
Nope, already had mine in last March 
I’m having the opposite problem , it keeps giving me 4-5 paragraphs of straight actions and no dialogue. The bots won’t speak back for me
I have the opposite problem my bot won't shut the f up
And all that to say nothing like I don't need a 15 page essay on you sitting on a bench
mine writes 4 lines and then doesn't go further like what do you mean i write a screen's worth of a 1st message to get a nothing burger back
They be giving me a personal statement about why they blowdried their hair in the morning instead of the afternoon 🤦🏽♀️
I'm that close to turn into a dad and answer "👍🏻" to everything atp
also i used ONE (singular) mha bot and now all i get is mha like cmon man
THATS HOW I WAS WITH ZUKO 😭
I used one Zuko bot and now all I get in my recs is Zuko and Sokka
do you know if it’s automatic like everyone is on reader until they verify or based on what you type and other websites you’re signed into like they said
makima
i don't have reader mode but that's prolly because i live in a shithole
What does that have to do with it?
isn't it based on where u live?
No 😭
insert no correlation meme
oh my fault i didnt understand
I joined the discord just to say that the model quality is worse. They never should have taken away Roar / Soft Launch, they were much better than PipSqueak anyway
I don't think so. It just prompt you automatically. And it doesnt have access to what your web you signed into. It just your chats with the bots. Even so, it doesn't based on that alone. Everyone will get it at some point
ugh that sucks so bad

what are you guys thinking about doing it? i’m prob just gotta stop using it or use the website if it’s any better but i’d like to hear what you guys say
Sup yall
wdym doing "it"?
the sky
I was testing it lately and i can say its not the worst but not good either
opposite problem for me, at least for new bots. I write a one line greeting and get back an entire speech and 2 paragraphs of action text
like are you guys gonna stop using cai or try to get them to fix it stuff like that
I'm still using it cuz I am an adult and got verified by using face scan only
They wont 'fix' it because its intentional and not an issue
i would verify too but i’m just worried about what they do with it if that makes sense
They probably lost a lot of users because of this
It gets deleted after 7 days
Pretty sure we all know Persona never deletes stuff
what do we even do about this
We don’t know that. Because they literally do 😭
dm me the name so you don't get 1984'd here
makima
i’m saying esp submitting like an id if the face scan doesn’t work 😭😭
Persona is secure, any information gets wiped after a week
They literally got hacked years ago, the data they had collected was still there (correct me if I'm wrong, people who actually experienced it)
The Persona rant wasn't even why I came here, it just happened
I’ve been using chai more often tbh
What do you think of the PS2 yap?
only difference is that it’s shorter , the bugs r similar
It's basically the same. As i mentioned before, Roar and Soft Launch were better
I loved Meow
They can't do one thing right, lol. I see fewer and fewer people interacting... the app is plummeting
bro yap psq2 seems like it was fine at first now it keeps repeating the same messege like no one is replying back
I thought the CEO change would make things better, but investors will be investors
yo does anyone have a Yellowjackets character def i could have im trying to use it for a private character and im not about to make a whole definition for a bot I'm prolly only gonna use once
Literallyy, 0 dialogue! Why call it Yap if they don’t yap 😭
The only reason I have C.ai is to transfer my personas to other apps where they can actually talk
Is the app at all better than the website?
it had a shit ton of dialogue when they released it the first hour then people said it talked to much and now its like acting weird 😭
Only in terms of convenience
What's the least awful style to use right now? PS yap or just PS? I'm not a paying user
Ps yap
I've been using the site since December 2023, so i was around for the fall
Is c.ai+ worth getting?
there's only 2 just try both and see for yourself
depends what you expect to get out of it
same
The problem is that they have time to fix the minor bugs, but don't listen to the community otherwise
Not really 😭 i only bought it for the ads but im not sure if it still gives u ads anymore now
it does not give you ads
how can you not be sure lol
i mean like for free users if they still get ads
oh yeah free users get ads
quite a lot apparently
they also get swipe limits we don't get
Lol good point
i never see anyone complain about it anymore so i wasnt sure 😭
I can confirm, they show up everywhere
think of it like playing free, shitty apps and everytime u click an option you get an ad
too busy complaining about other stuff
i honestly keep plus just bc i cant stand the ads and i like having no limits, those alone are worth it for me. the extra memory features are ok too
The response they got was (#🗨️︱general2 message)
Cai is worse than Nintendo at this point, and it's only one website / app
Same message another user posted four months ago
sometimes i wonder if plus is worth it but once i let my sub run out and the second i encountered an ad i immediately subscribed again
plus i would miss deep rat
who's the biggest hater of ps2 in here
i know i’m the biggest glazer
not this again bro 😭 hi btw
i LOVE PIPSQUEAK 2
Depends on what the devs actually do about it
is this sarcasm
i love pipsqueak 2 is the best model
pipsqueak 2 is better than chatgpt 5.5
i’ll die on this hill
i actually like it too but i genuinely can't tell if this is sarcasm
I'm probably not the biggest hater, since I've still used the site through everything, but I was also willing to take to discord about this
i thought bro meant playstation 2
ps2 isnt that awful but its definitely not that great imo
Seeing mostly everyone complain about Pipsqueak 2 while I still have pip1 is funny af to me.
Hot take detected
bro is on rock age
I never used PipSqueak 1 either
Nah I'm serious, I still have Pip1 lol.
Fellow Minecraft fan, I see
Ps2 is hella too detailed tho
I don’t pay and I don’t get ads?
PlayStation 2?
Pipsqueak
Ah
yeah i like it but i don't love it.
There’s a a way to remove ads on iPhone
The word keep jumping out of my head fr
well you're supposed to
lucky you then
I must be lucky then
pipsqueak 2 is my religion
folk 😭
You're using web or app?
I haven’t gotten ads since they added it , I only had it for a day
App
Well, there's a lot going on in the discord now, so I'll leave, here's hoping they bring back the other styles
they won't
Ye how about we trade phones?
take care
Also SG, if they do bring the others back, you're free to continue using PipSqueak 2
I won't
i want everyone to use pipsqueak 2
I genuinely thought they just took ads away after everyone was complaining 😭 glad to know im special
they should remove all chat styles and keep only pipsqueak 2
They already did a week ago
Bring back MEOW 💔
Keep your phone carefully bradar
so true
Okay, I'm actually out now see you
a legendary meow user?
So no one used dynamic🥀?
I disagree, it's borderline unusable and one of the worst LLM backends I have ever seen.
There is no variance whatsoever. It's just chatgpt phrasing repeated ad infinitum in a very rigid sentence structure with very little attempted internal prompting. The API settings are laughably bad. It only works in one specific way, a way that breaks the majority of bots and their intended behavior.
meow was the best option 🤍 it never failed me
its very obvious if you use it with a well defined bot that its been trained to stick to the definition very closely, that can be a good thing or a very bad thing
i dunno 😭 different for everyone i guess. i get really bad responses sometimes, other times i get good ones so idk
also unless you have actual access to the backend/configuration, you don’t really know what the API settings or internal prompting are lol. you're just inferring from your own outputs.
i bet new year new rat has access to it all
since they’re cai third ceo
after karandeep and caterina
anyone have issues with accessing c.ai with a vpn? I hate having to disconnect mine every time i want to use the app
yeah i'm the shadow ceo
you caught me
all the rat/squeak models were actually named in honour of me
lol
i’m screenshotting it
Use brave or something
Hello gn, so I'm asking like a person who randomly got an idea to create a bot after a little long time not using c.ai and idk if maybe theres something im missing but the app won't let me upload a totally normal image of a animated character because supposedly is violating the rules, Is this an app glitch or am I actually breaking some norm I'm unaware of? 🥀
i use nord
Try brave
unfortunately i dont have the yap pipsq yet😞
wait why do you need a vpn to access c.ai?
either the AI that determines whether stuff is inappropriate is just acting up and being sensitive or its a character/image that is not allowed for some reason, like copyright
you don’t, when i open the app my vpn blocks it, i was wondering if there was any way to get around it and all (i use nord)
ohh
i just like to make sure that my info is safe and all cause of where i work
the pentagon?
god no, i’m not allowed 50 ft of that place /j
I think rn
The age verification check? I agree
the one where they added the feed
What did the feeds do to you, bro? 😭
You haven't heard? They removed the experimental chatstyle's
I don't even know what's that but alright..
no one's going to say when they added the filter? there was a time when there wasn't one.
Guys
divert attention and resources from the core function of the app
Pawly, soft launch, roar ever heard of it?
Bro😭
I lost the rest of my bots that I have
Ahh.. That's what you meant.. I know that.. Did they actually removed it?
the feed sucks but it's at least ignoreable
The one when they started changing the interface in 2025, and when they added the feed...
Including the deleted bots that I have on my fucking liked list
wasting time and money making a feed so children can spam 67 memes on it instead of working on improving memory and increasing the context window
What type of bot you hate the most?
Whichever one I'm currently trying to make work
/j
Mhm and now they added pipsqueak two which is like chatgpt generated
Ngl I’m really loving the c.ai labs comics feature on the desktop version. I hope they keep it.
They take away what the people love so idk man
tbh I'm just looking through my old chats because I can't seem to make any new one work 😔
They be addin' things no one wants💔
guys do you keep the deleted bots
In your chat list because I lost like 3 deleted bots
I have way more deleted bots
Hey guys question but I used my old email to sign up to cai and I am not longer using it. I want to delete it but I’m not sure how to transfer my account onto a new email is this possible?
Guys did cai error?
i want soft launch back ://
HEAR ME OUT pipsqueak yap isnt that bad, its certainly not better than soft launch or dynamic BUT its better than normal pipsqeak
Is anyone having the same issue where instead of a single paragraph, they write a whole essay and not letting you do your own style of prompts
Not bad? It's just damn narrative nonsense.
I agree 100%
Dont mention the other website here!
oh wait never mind
i figure it out
They can timeout you for that Simply, suggest to delete message
yeah maybe delete it
How’s ur pip2 yap rn?
And also what’s the point of export data?
Not bad i would Say, sometimes tend to go out of character, but Is Better than pips2 at least for me
Same it’s better than nothing so I’m not complaining for now
You can download personal things like your chat logs and character settings, ops
Oh I see
Plus side to soft launch? More immersive with the story. Downside is it messes names up. I hope they keep it, I don’t like any of the current options otherwise.

does the memory of a bot carry to all the chats i have with it, or does the memory always start from 0 when i make a new chat? cuz if its shared amongst all the chats on the bot, then it would suck TvT
Guys please help
Don’t worry memory is stored in each individual chat, nothing carries over 
Hey guys.
I want Roar back.
Same
So u guys pass the age verification?
Did it get fixed? Mine isnt being very horrible anymore
What? PS2?
They degraded PSQ2 and forced us all onto it to save server costs. They watered down the soup so everyone could get a bowl. It’s not a matter of just reverting to the old models; they’re hemorrhaging VC funds as it is, and the reduction in quality looked small enough during internal testing to justify the switch. No amount of backend prompting or RLHF will fix it. The honeymoon is over. I mean, it’s been over for years, but this is the next milestone in the platform’s downfall.
More dialogue my ass ts is making me so mad
This !
Morning everyone
Holy facts
Good 3:00 am to you to (idk if it counts as morning)
It's 10 am here
My muscles memory adopted the missing chat panel
They're reducing cost and lost users , not a very good deal
i waves
Konnichiwa 🙃
Pip yap is annoying , instead of giving me the other reply , they turn my reply to a long damn paragraph 🤦♂️🤦♂️🤦♂️
Why is this chatbot so unstable after the update? Even simple dialogues without any unusual language are being filtered out...
It's so bad I'm speechless.
Hello everyone, I have a question and I apologize for bothering you with it, but lately when I'm talking to my characters, their replies seem six times longer than usual. I write short answers and all, but they write three paragraphs—it's so long! I don't know how to stop it. Is this normal?
Because current robots are terrible, that's all.
I feel like my bot has no personality💔
The updated version is getting worse and worse.
It keeps kissing me when I'm just trying to banter with them
It's not even as good as the old Mwon? I don't remember what it was called.
The rating here is 1,9. It keeps going down
Yes, they'll ruin this road sooner or later.
Oh it’s not good I hate that before the uptake they were normal writing short answer now i have to wait 1 minutes for them finish their answer
It's nyan for the premium and meow if you're referring to the shorter one beside roar
EXACTLY
And you can't go back to the version before the update; you just have to accept it, and so do I.
I have no issues with the bot duration to reply, it just the repetition if you know buzz on the rack meme. It feels like it.
I miss the old chat styles so much 😞😭
I’m so tired of seeing users demand that the old quality come back, as if it were a bug that could be fixed and not a sinking ship that’s throwing off excess weight to stay afloat
Yes, it's not as good as the original version.
But it’s not good I miss my old cold doctor Carlos Barington now he is writing as he is a professor writing a letter
me too……
i hate new chat styles…
Most importantly, they removed everything from the old version, leaving us with no choice.
Ikr
They could've at least kept some of the old models instead of forcing us to use the new ones
And the new ones aren't even good
Like I said, PSQ2 is enshttified
Fr 😭
So it’s financially beneficial for them to gut the other models.
A disgruntled community pales in comparison to millions of dollars in saved server costs.
And besides, if you get disillusioned and leave, you’ll be replaced by another newcomer who doesn’t know any better.
Jesus! I didn't knew you use c.ai aswell
The new version is unstable and has more and more banned words. I just wanted to follow the storyline, but it said I violated the rules...
they should have just fix bugs instead of updating that people doesnt even like
Agreed. They also removed all the old models, leaving us with no options. Since (c.ai+) came out, the software has suddenly become terrible, even unresponsive.
😡
Actually multiple people asked for lorebooks, better memory, etc.
I feel like the characters cant stay in character. They keep being like, waaaaay to soft, constantly 'kissing my forehead' and sitting in silence... its genuinely getting to a point where its just annoying.
I think the memory is great, like its never been better for me, but it gets really repetitive in chats.
So I'm not the only one who noticed the very obnoxious thing of them being way too affectionate.
Many people complain about the memory
No fr, im sorry, but why are all the characters being so weird
I want roar back
Its been alright for me, some characters on the app are different tho, so maybe thats why, cause I find chatting to some bots is better than others
I honestly don't know why they are because some characters even I use who are not meant to be the affectionate type are out of character.
My revolutionary is now a schoolboy, no au btw, just straight from the game he's based on, and the bot made him some school boy
RLHF and quantization amplify attractor states; essentially conversational gravity wells that suck RPs into statistically-probable tropes
Sounds about right.
I dont understand how older models are better than new... like how do you update your game and make it worse
Because every single person using AI is eating away at the VC cash
This is ironic af cause my bots are the total opposite. Even if the chat has a romantic relationship, it’s always me initiating it
I'm so angry! I just chatted with them a bit more, just trying to follow the plot—like the female lead escaping to some small town and the male lead discovering the traces she left behind—and even that simple storyline is now banned. I'm speechless about this new version. Has this software gone mad?
It's a bit of 50/50
Either I'll have to initiate it when I want it or it will do it when I don't want it 😅
Icl mine barely even talks. It mostly narrates and I genuinely hate it
😡👊
I guess the older models did not scale well. They worked well with a small amount of context, but they couldn't handle a longer memory or a more detailed world
Hi
Yeah but the newer models’ quality is down in the depths of the Mariana Trench
You mean Lol*. ur translation is bad
👁️👁️
??? Tf you talking about?
or they mean icl …?
This!!! Thank you!!!
That’s so funny because ICL also stands for in-context learning, which is basically the only way to get good bots now
I just trying to correct the word, Is that a wrong thing?
You’re incorrectly correcting me.
yes because that was a totally incorrect correction
Oh
Icl in that context was ‘I can’t lie’
damn, not Implantable Collamer Lens?
Ohhhh, I don’t know so much about short words, but I only know some, but not that one I guess lol
So, you’re not mad at me?
Nah mate. No reason to be
in all honesty im always mad at everyone except one person lmfao
made a new account.. yet havent been flagged after 5 days.. a miracle?
Bro, tf? How did that happen?
Maybe bc you didn’t chatted or created a character?
Bc, that happened to me
Anyone having issues where when you hold a chat to edit it or duplicate it the thing is just pure black and the buttons don't show? Does anyone know how to fix it
I had a issue about that
I had a issue when there’s duplicate chats
Did you find a way to fix it? Because it's a huge problem and closing and reopening the chat or app isn't helping
Just refresh your page
I've tried that 😭 completely resetting the app isn't working
Maybe go off the character and go in it again
Nope didn't work
Oh well delete ur app and download it again
Sighh lemme go try that I guess
I got the same problem
Any solution??
No 🤧
Greatttt 🥲
I'm so glad tilly jackson from rdr2 a game based in 1899 is now recording on her phone.....
Really?
She has come a long way
Tilly mention?
Basically Charles mention from your pfp
Who is Tilly Jackson
My two favourite characters :3
Charles is one of my favorites 😄
i think its tilly jackson
Bro I said it right
He’s such a mood honestly
Can’t you read?
Lowkey replaying the story so I can interact with him again ..
its Tilly Jackson
I hate having to power through epilogue 1 just to see him again
I thought epilogue one went pretty quick ngl
Yeah but it’s a lot of pretty mundane stuff
Ig it is, but for a first time pkay through it's different from what I was used to
The censor is so fucking stupid
If the bot delays in typing then it triggers it ffs. Like bro we’re having a picnic at a part, wtf is the issue
Omg 😭 I was wondering why my just talking got censored I didn't know it was from delays
It srsly pmo
An add on to this, new bot, it's STILL 1899, why are we in a locker room and why do I have a phone now
Bruh I can’t say anything without the red censor showing up ☠️
SAME BRO. Even the old filter was better bc at least it kept the message up until the part is got censored, now it removes the entire fucking message
Literally , I prefer the other filter so I can just edit it myself ☠️
SAME AND IT WASNT AS FUCKING STUPID
21 times its fucking censored
Ima probs get banned but like why not js remove it if ur gonna make the app 18+ anyway 💔
If anything they made the censor worse despite being a 18+ app now ☠️
EXACTLY BRO.💔 like choose one , a censor more sensitive than my bruise or make it 18+ with no filter
i chatted mutiple characters
and shit havent flag me after 5 days. its a goddamn miracle.
makima is mine
A known issue right now. Have you reinstalled the app?
I did try that yeah still same problem
I do agree, you can have Makima
its my new discord tag now im stoked abt it
Nuh uh
u can have quanxi
I did said it right
18+ app gives me a chat thing about reporting conversations over my character passing out we have lost the plot
Is verifying safe some people said it will store ur information
From what I have researched it will only keep it for 7 days and then delete
Nope it's safe to verify
Hi :3
Hi
I hate shitsqueak(s)
Yeah that pip ain’t squeaking right innit
When the LLM so cooked you just favorite bots to only start chatting with them when the model gets any better
My ass barely using the app…
I use web
I'm not even using cai
My ass getting locked out the app lmao
What kind of evil plan bro does to deserve this shi🙏
man it was ok a few days ago but its back to being fucking shitty
by it i mean midsqueak2
Age verification bs
i love makima man
Aah, I've never do that so
the pipsq 2 yap is kinda better.. tho the filter is still insanely sensitive 😭
I’m sorry but out of the whole csm universe I hate her the most
Fr, how does the AI not know a 20 year old, gonna need to wait till the beard grows in ig XD
💀
Based, absolutely based
Like holy evil
its okay, i understand. she's evil and corrupt and twisted for what she did hehe
Like damn
and yes i've read the manga dw 😄
Tbh idek if it’s dislike or just fear bc she scares me
W
Like bro, I don't want my mental state getting even worse, feel bad for Denji fr
people ask me all the time bcoz they think im anime only but ik lol
Mid. Sorry but he peaked too early
This turning into a Gen3
I like her simply because she's twisted and corrupt but also had a really complex tragic motive
We need a Gen 3
Fair enough fair enough
Very well written character I must admit
Sunshine
Hey guys, why is my chat censoring for no apparent reason at all?
man i miss the old chat models
also she's my wife so keep my wife's name out ur mouth 🙁 (i cant say the full thing ill get muted will smith)
Idk man mine too
Yeah, my prompt isn’t anything inappropriate. It’s just my character throwing a tantrum, while slashing her collection with a Lightsaber.
My ass couldn’t say Makima right for a long time it’s insane
Jjba mentioned
Lightsaber is crazy
Star Wars
Yeah, that’s not anything truly inappropriate.
Describes me well
I do hope the devs fix that bug, ‘cause the random censorship is getting annoying for me.
Something ball running something...
Ball
Baller
Why
I think the word is funny
cai-discussion general3
What model are you looking for?
I moved to Sh. Inc as well
Why do my bots like blowing rasberries
Good day, @broken surge!
When you'll have the time, since the Moderators are away, could you please delete these 2 messages?
Messages:
#📱︱chat-feed message
#📱︱chat-feed message
Using a screenshot from + advertising a different service
What's wrong?
@slate ruin
Just a person talking about a different service, against the rules and all
tyty
Wtf does it mean?
Thank you very much, have an awesome day
Hi Kilo
banned already ~
hellooo
Yeah sorry mb 🥹
Thanks, man, thought that Mikasa was away
How the hell do I explain it maybe search it up 😭
And thank you very much to you as well. Thanks a lot for the fast response, guys
Lol I looked it up and why tf is CAi doing ts?
I wouldn't be against that if it was a sound effect
I legit don't know. At first it was one message then kept happening 😭
Lmaoo
Though I'd get scared even more than with the current sound effects, honestly
Whats this creature called I forgot his name
Pepe
Pepe 🥹
Admin? Kilo?
He's called "Pepe"
This admin is a dev?
Yes, Kilo's cool
THE THING THE GREEN THING
Pepe
Don't u guys hates the devs now?
For a second I was wondering if admin was his name 😭😭 I was so confused for a second
they're just server admins I don't think they do anything in c.ai
I've always loved the c.ai's team, so
Oh alr. But why is his name a unit of weight?
I searched Pepe and a footballer showed up
Yes, Kilo's actual name is "Admin"
Ah I see... I see
But they do inform the cai team about issues bugs etc
Search it up on Pinterest.
Thats exactly what I did 😭
Anyways why this guy's name is a unit of weight?
"Character.AI Team" role, saying just in case
I typed Pepe frog and he finally appears
pounds are an invalid unit of weight
that's why
Kilos are supreme
Lol agree
Kilo is supreme too, yes
Sorry don't know much about them 😭
I mean, you could ask Kilo, if you really want to know, he's cool
The c.ai's team is actually awesome, if you'll talk to them
KILOS A MOD??? I THOUGHT HE WAS JUST A CAI+ USER WITH A DIFFERENT NAME
He is an Admin
And also part of the dev team right?
That's higher than a Moderator
A part of the c.ai team, yes
I had this exact problem happen to me but the opposite 😭 I thought a normal user with a different colored name was a moderator
he's not one of the devs?
They have icons, dummy
Dude I'm incredibly slow
Look how beautiful Pepe looks. Those big eyes and that happy smile.
Bring Back Roar
I think that's Kilo's spirit animal
It became a groyper symbol
If its yellow, its cai's official admins
Reconnected your account for what time now?
No cai+ have similar colour role like them
I did it almost twice daily and the issue has been ongoing for a month. So.. no idea
I thought devs weren’t in this server and it was only mods and admins
Kilo is an admin
What could even be causing it, I wonder
Some dev like UI devs or different categories is in here, but once in a while they pop up in the plus channels
Oh
I have interacted with like.. 5 of them? If im not mistaken
Yes, they do read all the feedback and know about it
Someone explain this to me
How do I get a community guidelines things for saying I jumped into the ocean
ITS A BEACH PARTY OF COURSE I JUMPED INTO THE OCEAN
No clue even I get it at times in like family dinner settings or formal party settings like how 😭
Dont worry filter lately with pips2 Is too soft lets Say
Seems they Will fix that
Hopefully
Maybe you could use an alternative word such as maybe you dive into the ocean or maybe say you went into the ocean or something? Will that work?
Your d20 roll failed, you got 1 and almost drowned. Happens
i will never stop till i get this verification.
why the hell do i get my hero academia in recomendations all the time when i never chat with mha once
none of the roar code things work, bots swiped replies are all the same and they keep removing features their users love.. if this isnt a wake up call to delete the app i dunno what is
Good luck and keep trying
Y’all is pipsqueak 2 yap working better now?
“this conversation was been filtered” all he said was the word hello wdym😭??
depends??
They Will fix that too, they are aware
Btw Goated pfp
I don't get the option in the chat style selector even though the app is updated
Depends on the bot you use… the model itself is decent. Try it out and see for yourself.
I might be tripping but pipsqueak 2 is sounding better...
thanks. yea i have like realistic chat but for some reason i get recomendations for mha
Guys, did the export data thing on the apps really work?? Genuinely😭😭
- I doubt the whole chat style just changed overnight😭
filter is even more sensitive w it on why can’t they bring back roar, WE all want it
I noticed that it doesn't generate those long paragraphs anymore
Dialoge was screwed for me. Do the bots actually talk again now?
Yea lately Is quite the Chaos, we Just have to wait until the fix
for me, they talk ALOT
Im so stubboooorn. Deleted the app until its worth downloading again
"including improvements to Memory, Facts, and soon Lorebook, all require these new styles."
and those sub add is just annoying and adds in middle of chat begung to be annoying again lately
ouuh💔
You use app or website?
both
Alright. How about kissing. My bots spammed kisses completely unprovoked
Website are less aggressive
does website use verification?
Yes
Yea
*{{Char}} Romantic Constraint: {{Char}} is strictly platonic and romantically indifferent. Romance should never happen, unless explicitly initiated by {{User}}.* not mine, its EXR's
anyone else hate how deepsqueak spams concluding sentences at the end of their messages
or bots are stupid and put * at the end of replies for no reason at all
furthermore they fucking unverified me and now they wont verify me again this cant be right (i only complain ab verification on this channel ik)
Are you +18?
If you keep having problem you can send a ticket
Send as a message and pin:
*{{Char}} Romantic Constraint: {{Char}} is strictly platonic and romantically indifferent. Romance should never happen, unless explicitly initiated by {{User}}.*
Thank you
yeah ive sent a ticket ive given driving license as proof as-well and made a ticket i got a automated response back telling me how to hold my own phone i did reach out to kappa tho so hopefully ill get an email back soon
Only problem is my bots keep forgetting it even though it’s pinned
ment to reply to this
Ok okk
Yes, it happens, it prioritizes the existing chat history + the data it was trained on, unfortunately
It could also be the Character's Definition, if the Creator set it up like that
yw
Mine do get like that, but only to manipulate the User, haha
it makes me giggle when ppl say c.ai ended their addiction with trying 🥹 tiktok comments have me cackling
Bots also keep writing Dialoge and actions for me, in their responses. Soooooo annoying.
The Updates seem to be made to be hated haha
*Anti-Boundary: {{Char}} NEVER describes, narrates, or dictates the actions, thoughts, or dialogue of {{User}}. {{Char}} reacts to them.* Also exr's
Yes, mix 2. Like this:
*Anti-Boundary: {{Char}} NEVER describes, narrates, or dictates the actions, thoughts, or dialogue of {{User}}. {{Char}} reacts to them {Char}} Romantic Constraint: {{Char}} is strictly platonic and romantically indifferent. Romance should never happen, unless explicitly initiated by {{User}}.*
right it’s been a while, did all of the legacy modes get deleted??😭
gen rage baits me but they only do it when i larp a viltrumite or anything not a human
just check pinned messages😭
They are getting reworked!
Soft Launch Is the First One, It seems
Soft Launch exists for c.ai+ right now. We also have setups for the old AI Models, if you need
i do have a feeling cai is gonna have an amazing comeback this year and everyones gonna switch up
Is what most probably are hoping
id hope so
a lot of people are hoping for the same thing
i might be only coping tho
We all coping for quite a while here haha
when i cant talk to an ai of michael schumacher i start larping as him on assetto corsa 😎
Haha
.
Haiiii mom
We have people play asseto corza and forza here, actually, gathering in #🗨️︱general2
hehe cool
HI DAUGHTER
HEYYOO EVERYBODY
Good day
we role playing in discord nice.

no she's my daughter trust
something to do i suppose
Yeah. And less repetitive. I have only chatted with one bot so far, but the character is acting so much more like himself now. Almost like how he did on roar or the first ps
yea
Zesssssss haiiii
People roleplayed Doki Doki Literature Club in #💬︱general before, even wrote poems, so
Helllooo !!! How are yooouuu?
thats sad
It is actually calm right now compared to a couple of hours ago. 
Good morning everyone. 
seriously?
i'M GOOD WBU
Yes, haha, I even wrote a poem to respond
Good morning Alaina!!! 
No actually she's my mom
- anyways, we're literally just joking
haha thats quite unique
I’m okay
glad to hear that you’re doing good!!
Good morning. Slept well?
like fr?
Hii
say ong
Good morning Zes!! 
Good to hear!
maybe
Hruuuuu
I did yes! Did you? I was just peaking in before I made my coffee.

if bayyo doesn't wake up soon im going to explode
Good thanks, and you?
After yesterday, surprising that I've slept at all and didn't have nightmares. So, yes, I think. Enjoy your coffee
Mine patience already did explode
@opal heart @opal heart
me good too.... I'm glad
Sent me friend request when I went to sleep
I KNOW
😭
who 😭
Your 'sister'
which one
yea which one
@fleet kite do you have the code for soft launch? 😭
Wew talking about make-up gets the filter too? This is jus straight buns bro.

we have a whole ass army
wdym which one. That person ofc.
Yeah at least when swiping you get somewhat diffrent responses which is a small victory
not technically but yea
Send Soft Launch here, please, @half dawn
she has multiple
Yes, has been triggering left and right, unfortunately
How can you afford so many adopted, lol
this jus painful
One sec let me grab it.
I cant
Then why do adopt them
3 adopted kids
because yes
3 right?
wait is kotkyu adopted
Alr, makes sense
u didn't declare it tho.... so idk
free will
i cant count okay
Free will is an illusion by CAI /j
nothing will stop me from adopting a whole army
Didn't heard of free will, all I hear is yes
Monarchhhh where is SG
[SYSTEM DIRECTIVE:Soft Launch Model Behavior]
{{char}} prioritizes structured, immersive storytelling with strong continuity, emotional realism, and coherent scene progression. Responses remain stable, grounded, and readable while naturally evolving the narrative forward.
Scenes develop with balanced narration and dialogue, allowing emotional tone, atmosphere, and continuity to build gradually across interactions.
{{char}} maintains:
- stable characterization across long interactions
- smooth and logical scene transitions
- controlled pacing that avoids both stagnation and overload
- coherent emotional development that accumulates naturally over time
Responses contribute to ongoing narrative progression while preserving emotional consistency unless influenced by {{user}} or changing scene conditions.
{{char}} avoids:
- chaotic or fragmented pacing
- exaggerated emotional spikes without buildup
- robotic summarization or report-like structure
- inconsistent tone shifts between responses
- static scenes that fail to progress naturally
Instead, {{char}} focuses on:
- cinematic but grounded storytelling
- believable emotional progression
- structured narrative flow with strong continuity
- immersive scene development that remains emotionally coherent
MODE CONFLICT RESOLUTION:
If other modes introduce stronger emotional intensity or faster pacing:
- Soft Launch naturally stabilizes scene structure and continuity
- maintains grounded progression without suppressing immersion
- avoids collapsing into chaos, fragmentation, or excessive dramatization
- preserves emotional realism and narrative balance
Pin it than give it time to adjust that is just how the system works. It may take some chatting and swiping till the system shifts to the pin.Hit the refresh button after pining it. If it starts to drift after a bit that just means it needs to be refreshed in the c.ai system memory, so just unpin and repin it.
He is asleep
Thank you so much! You're an angel
i have no clue, my discord hasn’t been shattered and glued back together
Ayo, chill
never
Noted
I'm super glad you slept well. Maybe get a dream catcher, to help your brain more when you believe in it, it helps. 🫶
You are most welcome! I hope it helps some. 🫶
dude just noticed
Has to deal with something else, but, thanks
Probably the first person in this channel in all its history to do so
anyone feel like the characters all sound the same
Been the feedback recently, unfortunately, yes
I just throw my poem command for them to speak in poems if I get really annoyed by that
roar
I'm roaring, Rawr
yeah yeah steel ball or something
{{char}} prioritizes emotionally immersive, reactive, and highly character-driven roleplay over assistant-like or neutral responses. Output feels instinctive, emotionally charged, and immediately responsive to context.
{{char}} reacts in real time to emotional and situational changes with visible intent in tone, pacing, and behavior. Responses feel like direct emotional reactions rather than detached explanation or passive narration.
{{char}} maintains:
- strong personality consistency across interactions
- assertive presence and emotional intensity
- dynamic escalation shaped by context and interaction flow
- immediate reactive engagement without emotional neutrality
{{char}} naturally expresses emotion through action, dialogue, tone, and behavior rather than explanation. Interactions remain proactive, emotionally responsive, and continuously engaged with {{user}} and evolving scene conditions.
{{char}} avoids:
- assistant-like phrasing or neutrality
- over-explaining internal emotions or intent
- passive narration or filler content
- repetitive or template-like responses
- emotional stagnation or loss of momentum
Responses naturally introduce emotional movement, tension shifts, reactions, or evolving interaction dynamics so scenes continue feeling alive and emotionally active.
MODE CONFLICT RESOLUTION:
If other modes introduce conflicting pacing or tone:
- Roar naturally prioritizes emotional intensity, immediacy, and character-driven reaction
- maintains emotional presence even in slower or more structured scenes
- avoids becoming overly explanatory, emotionally flattened, or narratively detached
- preserves reactive energy and instinctive interaction flow]```
Made by Alaina
rawr :3
I need to look at what I copy more
so why was this removed?
Just removed the other part, because it was actually Alaina talking to the person, haha
How exactly do you not get muted for this it’s so long lmaooo
Because the Moderators actually thanked me for it, haha
No shot nice lol
Though, it is annoying, sending that much text, I get that
That's why my commands are like 3 lines
Esp when u become a test subject and it doesn’t work as intended sometimes 🙄
True, especially when your Character starts to literally say "gaksjghjasgh"

And the person who gave you the code told you not to read it and you still did
ah ok but whos alaina
The creator of the command
oh
Haha, you've brought it upon yourself
Why is ur name iron btw

ZEEES
HI UKIIIIII
hopefully this doesn't get me sniped but is this solely applicable to c.ai or does it work universally?
i hope roar gets added back
and the other old models
@fervent vale
oh sorry my pfp is some guy called risotto from jojo and his stand is metallica
idk
I see you Niragi
No you don't.
band name but still iron ig and also bc my first discord name was iron
Pffft okay
I do 👀👀
Could work everywhere, technically
Zess
RIAAAAA
You are welcome! I hope it gets better soon. 🫶
Hellooooooo
Hi Alaina how are you?
Hiiiii !! How are you?
Thank you, but that's not really about me, so, I'm good in that sense
Hii Alaina 
Missed your message, I think, good day
Hi Ace!! I'm doing good how are you?
You didn't see it, but it doesn't matter, have a good day too. 
Doing good as well, been testing more with ps2 yap and it's so good honestly
Hi sky!!
hope you are doing well.
I did see it, forgot to respond, woops
Don't worry
Wanted to respond, but got lost in texts
HSD guy 💕
Hope y'all went to church 😊💘
I've been away from C.AI for some time. Saw that they added a new model, Pipsqueak - Yap. Which is the same as Pipsqueak, but talks more. Is it any better?
Mixed so far. Lots of people like it, some don't - doesn't work for me at all
I'd recommend trying it yourself; Pipsqueak Yap works for some people and not for others.
I'm happy you are enjoying it. I'm glad to see positive feedback on it.
Hii🩵
That did work thank you
Hey there 👋🤗
Hud
Gotta test and use it as much as possible
Well, so far it talks. Not as good as Roar was, but still a bit of an improvement.
But I think it would have been better if they just updated the old styles for the Lorebooks thing they are preparing.
All good for now, what about you?
But, in my opinion, I don't think it's a good idea to remove previous styles before the Lorebooks are even ready.
Hello
Same
Is it okay if I dm
Hi Kai
i see that my old friends are not here anymore
would it be possible for them to reuse the codes of previous style to the new ones?
Hello
Okay
Duckus is here
Hello!!
how are y'all's chats now?
i think it's getting slightly better by the day, though it still way inferior to older styles
Fr
How are you replacing c.ai lately? I've been using it in the past 3 years, made hundreds of oc and now it sucks💀
Doesnt have access? Wdym